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uchobbyHOw would one go about getting a USB Headset working on Ubuntu 10.04?03:41
meindian523um, plug it in and tell Sound Preferences to use it?03:42
uchobbytrying that03:42
uchobbyI get a pop up that says waiting for sound to load, and it never goes away, have tired this already03:43
uchobby"Waiting for sound system to respond"03:43
meindian523hmm, did your headset come with a driver CD?03:44
uchobbyno03:44
uchobbyand I've had no sound since I installed Ubuntu03:44
meindian523:/03:44
uchobbythought maybe I would try a USB headset03:45
* meindian523 doesn't know03:45
meindian523hey, irrespective of headset or not03:45
meindian523you don't have sound?03:45
uchobbyright, no sound03:45
meindian523uchobby, try replacing Pulseaudio with ALSA03:46
uchobbyhow? apt-get ALSA?03:46
meindian523wait03:47
meindian523pulseaudio's description in Synaptic reads "Wide range of supported client libraries. ESD, ALSA, oss...."03:48
meindian523strange03:48
uchobbyapt-get install --reinstall pulseaudio - Saw a suggestion to try this, still get the issue, wonder if a restart is required or a mod probe03:49
meindian523uchobby, honestly, I would be exceeding my sense of responsibility if I advised anything I wasn't sure of03:51
* uchobby nods03:51
meindian523you'll have to wait for someone who knows this stuff03:53
meindian523aveilleux, sound help?03:54
uchobbyI check that there is a new version of alsa03:54
uchobbyhave intstructions fo rit03:54
uchobbya bit ugly but I'm going to try03:55
[styx]ok i dowloaded a program and when i open it to install it it opens archive manager?04:15
[styx]how do i get the installer?04:15
meindian523[styx], what program and where did you download it from?04:15
seidos[styx], did you download a tar ball?  you might have to compile it.04:16
[styx]eclipse ide from eclipse .org04:16
seidos[styx], depends what's in the archive you downloaded.  in all likelihood there is a configure script, if there is you will have to try to compile it04:17
seidos[styx], did you check synpatic package manager to see if there is an eclipse package there?04:17
[styx]ill look04:18
seidoswell, there is an "eclipse" package.  i did sudo apt-get install eclipse in a terminal and it was going to install something that's 351MB04:19
[styx]yeah04:20
seidosyeah, looks right from sudo aptitude search eclipse04:20
seidosthat'll be easier, to install it from synaptic, unless you want to try compiling it yourself04:20
[styx]wheres sudo04:21
[styx]i cant find it lol04:21
[styx]im new to linux04:21
aveilleux[styx]: It's a command in Terminal.04:21
[styx]i forget where i found it lasttime04:21
[styx]cmnd to get it?04:21
aveilleux[styx]: Um, sudo is its own command.04:21
seidos[styx], sudo is a command to run a program in terminal with root privileges04:22
[styx]ok04:22
[styx]so shallo04:22
[styx]shall i google the command?04:22
aveilleux[styx]: There's no reason to,04:22
[styx]or i kinda want to try compiling it myself04:23
aveilleux[styx]: We just explained exactly what it does. "root" is the administration account.04:23
seidos[styx], if you want to learn about, go for it :)04:23
JoeMaverickSett[styx]: if you would like to read more of it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudo04:23
[styx]cool thaks04:23
meindian523aveilleux, I think [styx] wanted to find the Terminal04:52
aveilleuxmeindian523: Uh, okay...04:52
meindian523and (s)he was confusing the command sudo with where you issue it, the terminal04:53
meindian523common mistake with new to computers/ new to linux04:53
aveilleux[[]05:07
aveilleuxwhoops.05:07
TalibHi, I am a windows user trying out ubuntu. I was tols that /usr/bin is kinda like program files. My question is why are there no sub-directories used here? It seems a bit disorganized.09:26
Talibtols=told09:26
pedro3005Talib, because it's not a good analogy09:29
pedro3005Talib, http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html09:30
Talibok, thanks. Still seems disorganized though, but I can live with it.09:37
TalibLet's say I want to write my own ubuntu software. I downloaded Code::Blocks and can compile a basic program. Now let's say I want to distribute this software. Do I just make tarball with a directory structure or are there package creators?09:40
tdnI have created a user during installation and said Yes to "Encrypt home dirs?". How do I get back to non-encrypted home dirs?09:45
Talibdon't worry, found The Ubuntu Packaging Guide, just a lot to read09:46
pedro3005tdn, I found http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8459529&postcount=509:57
arundraculamy wifi card detected.. driver installed using ndiswrapper.. says hardware present.. but No device for wlan0...pls help10:03
arundraculaiwconfig says only lo, eth0 and ppp0... no wlan10:05
arundraculaAnd those have no wireless extensions10:05
seidosarundracula, i see you, but i can't think of anything right now.10:13
arundraculaok10:14
arundraculaAnyway I am posting it in forum10:14
seidosarundracula, well, do you know what wireless chipset you have?10:14
seidosarundracula, good idea.  have you tried searching the forum yet?10:14
arundraculaI searched..10:15
arundraculabelkin : driver installed10:15
arundraculadevice (1799:700F) present (alternate driver: rtl8180)10:15
seidosarundracula, that doesn't sound like a wireless chipset.  did you download the windows inf file for your wireless device?10:15
seidosarundracula, do you know that ndiswrapper uses a windows driver to get your wireless working?10:16
seidosarundracula, you can get your wireless device by doing lscpi | grep Ethernet in terminal10:16
arundraculaIt is working in Windows10:17
arundracula00:07.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2)10:17
arundracula01:06.0 Ethernet controller: Belkin Device 700f (rev 20)10:17
seidosarundracula, ndiswrapper "wraps" a windows driver so that it can be used in linux10:17
arundraculaok10:18
arundraculaIn windows, it was showing as Ethernet controller. But I got it working by installing its driver in Windows.10:19
seidosarundracula, after installing ndiswrapper, you have to download the windows driver (the inf file) to ubuntu, then open ndiswrapper and point it to the inf file in ubuntu.10:19
arundraculaAlready done.. And it shows belkin: driver installed device (1799:700F) present (alternate driver: rtl8180)10:21
seidosall right.  hmmm, i'm trying to remember if there was anything else i had to do.10:22
seidosdo you see network manager in the gnome tray?10:22
tdnpedro3005, should I run that as root or as the user with encrypted home?10:22
tdnpedro3005, I think this is an area of Ubuntu that is really poorly documented.10:22
arundraculaYes10:22
tdn:(10:22
seidosarundracula, is wireless checked?10:23
seidosarundracula, when you right click, is wireless checked on?10:23
arundraculaThere is no wireless there.10:23
pedro3005tdn, as the user with the encrypted home I think10:23
seidosarundracula, so you have the windows driver loaded in ndiswrapper, and no wireless is available.  have you tried restarting?10:24
tdnpedro3005, well... I am not really comfortable just running such a command. I do not know if it will delete my encrypted files or what.10:24
arundraculaRestarted already.10:24
seidosarundracula, all i can think to do is to search the forums or google at this point.10:25
arundraculaok10:25
arundraculaAnyway thank you10:25
seidosarundracula, it sounds like you've done everything you need to do, but i may be missing something.10:25
seidosarundracula, i'll help you search if you stick around :)10:25
arundraculaok10:25
pedro3005tdn, try man encryptfs-setup-private10:25
arundraculaifconfig wlan0 says Device not found10:26
seidosarundracula, are you using 10.04?10:27
tdnpedro3005, will et be enough if I just do this: rm -rf /home/foo ; deluser foo ; adduser foo ?10:28
pedro3005tdn, I suppose, but you'll lose your files10:28
seidosarundracula, did you use this to setup ndiswrapper:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper10:28
tdnpedro3005, I can just manually copy those outside before.10:28
pedro3005tdn, worth a shot then. couldn't hurt10:29
tdnpedro3005, ok.10:29
arundraculaI am using 10.0410:29
arundraculaI installed the driver using ndisgtk10:30
seidosarundracula, did you blacklist the bcm43xx?10:31
arundraculaNo10:31
seidosarundracula, it says to do so in ndiswrapper docs located here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper10:32
arundraculaI was not sure if it is bcm43xx or something in that xx10:33
tdnpedro3005, I think it is not enouogh. There is some data under /home/.ecryptfs.10:33
arundraculadone10:34
arundraculablacklisted10:34
seidosarundracula, you'll probably have to restart to reinitialize wireless.  you can *try* sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart in terminal to see if that does it, otherwise restart10:35
arundraculaI will restart. You'll be here?10:36
seidosyeah10:38
arundraculaOk now. ifconfig returns lo, eth0 and ppp0 only11:04
seidosarundracula, well, i found this on the ubuntuforums:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-713058.html11:05
seidosarundracula, is the wireless device a pci card?11:05
arundraculaYes11:06
seidosifconfig is the same as before, right?11:06
seidosarundracula, is the inf file you are using named net8185.inf?11:07
arundraculaYes11:07
arundraculaThere are three files, Belkin.ini, bet8185.cat, and RTL85n86.sys11:08
seidosif you have the realtek chipset, they recommended the net8185.inf driver to be used with the pci card, especially if you can confirm your card is using a realtek chipset11:08
arundraculasorry net8185.cat11:08
seidoshm, that's weird, no .inf file.11:08
arundraculaAgain sorry11:08
seidosarundracula, see if you can get a hold of the net8185.inf file from realtech11:08
arundraculaBelkin.inf is really inf, not ini11:08
arundraculaok11:09
seidosi see11:09
seidosarundracula, i think i found it here:  http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&ProdID=35&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true11:12
seidosarundracula, there's also a linux driver.  if you get ndiswrapper working, maybe you can try that out if you're so inclined11:13
arundraculaok11:13
arundraculaThe ndiswrapper is for WindowsXP or Vista?11:15
seidosi think windows xp is a safer bet11:18
arundraculaBecause I tried WinXP and shows hardware not present11:18
seidoswith the net8185.inf driver?11:18
arundraculayes11:18
arundraculaI am trying Vista drivers now11:18
seidosand you restarted the system after installing?11:19
arundraculaNo11:19
seidosfrom what i've read, they recommend it.11:19
seidosbut try the vista drivers if you want11:19
seidoswell, basically arundracula, if this doesn't work, you'll have to pull the card out to verify what chipset your belkin card is using.  if it is the realtek 8185 then other people have got it working, so it should be possible if we follow the directions properly.11:20
arundraculaok11:22
duanedesignmorning all11:26
arundraculaVista driver is also not working. Showing hardware present to No11:27
seidosarundracula, i'm not sure what else to try.  if you can confirm the chipset that is on your pci card, that would probably help verify the net8185.inf is the right driver.11:28
arundraculawhat if we use ndiswrapper -a parameter11:28
seidosinstead of the gui?  doesn't hurt to try.11:29
seidosi'm not familiar with the command11:29
arundraculaI looked into the card and it says RTL8185L11:29
seidosoh, something i also thought might help is poking around in lsmod11:29
seidostype lsmod in terminal, and look for the belkin device, and make sure no drivers are assigned to it that shouldn't show up11:30
arundraculaNo Belkin there11:32
seidosarundracula, i checked the ndiswrapper list, and the 8185 isn't listed there.  http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Category:PCI11:32
seidosarundracula, you might have better luck trying the linux driver.11:32
arundraculabefore that should I try this one's second post? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43506511:33
seidosarundracula, yeah i saw that, but the device id they get is 701f...yours is 700f, and you verified your device is 8185 real tek chipset, and there is an 8185 linux driver from realtek...sooo, i don't know, it's up to you, but if it were i'd try the linux driver from realtek11:35
arundraculaOK I am trying the linux driver.11:36
seidosarundracula, do you have a belkin f5d7000?11:38
arundraculaYes11:38
seidosarundracula, i think this is the forum post you want:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-713058.html11:38
seidosthere is also a section where a user "Povilas" posted a quick guide for getting the linux driver working11:39
arundraculayeah he says about the -a parameter11:39
seidosi'll download the linux driver to see what kind of documentation comes with it, but it looks like you'll have to compile it :/  sorry, ndiswrapper would have been easier if it works.11:39
arundraculaok11:40
arundraculaI am trying this one11:40
duanedesignbug 176507 <--says 'Fix Released'11:40
ubot2Launchpad bug 176507 in network-config (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "[hardy] RTL8185L driver not working (dups: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17650711:40
seidosduanedesign, thanks, i'll check it out11:42
seidosduanedesign, well, he's using 10.04, so the fix should already be included.  i think maybe because the device shows up as a belkin in lspci that the realtek driver isn't installed.11:44
arundraculatried that step. No changes11:52
seidosarundracula, are you there?  i just found some more ndiswrapper information.11:52
duanedesignseidos: bug 36867911:52
ubot2Launchpad bug 368679 in fedora (and 2 other projects) "wifi module rtl8180 freezes the system (affects: 11) (dups: 1) (heat: 64)" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36867911:52
seidosarundracula, check out this bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/15160011:53
ubot2Launchpad bug 151600 in linux-source-2.6.22 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "madwifi no longer working in kernel 2.6.22-12 and 2.6.22-14 (heat: 3)" [Low,Won't fix]11:53
seidosarundracula, someone said there that they had to do a "ifconfig wlan0 up" to get there wlan0 to show up in ifconfig11:53
arundraculawlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device11:54
seidosarundracula, you have the 1122 version of the realtek inf loaded in ndiswrapper?11:55
arundraculaI don't know11:57
arundraculaAfter that last step. system is slowing some times11:57
arundraculaSo I removed the ndis drivers11:58
seidoshmmm11:58
arundraculaBut .. my first driver automatically detected the hardware without passing the -a parameter. So I think that is correct version11:58
seidosarundracula, so you're saying it worked?11:59
arundraculaI think it is more compatible than this Realtek's And also I opened the realtek .inf file and it says Wireless 54M Ethernet controller and my card is 54G12:00
duanedesigndid modprobing the driver work. sudo modprobe rtl818012:00
seidosthat's actually a good idea, a sudo lshw might be a good idea too12:04
duanedesigni did that on mine and it loaded the rtl8180  drivers12:05
* seidos tries it12:05
duanedesignlsmod | grep rtl818012:06
duanedesignoops, wrong window :P12:06
seidosyeah it worked for me too, and sudo rmmod rtl8180 removed it12:07
arundraculaNow I removed all ndis drivers. So I want to install it again. Which one.? Realtek's or the previous one?12:07
duanedesignarundracula: can you try running : sudo modprobe rtl818012:08
duanedesignthen:  lsmod | grep rtl818012:08
duanedesignto make sure it loads12:08
duanedesignthere is a bug about the module not auto loading12:09
arundraculadone12:09
arundraculaIt says two warnings12:09
arundraculaAll config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release.12:09
arundraculawowowwowo12:10
arundraculaNow the wireless icon has wireless connections12:10
arundraculaI have no drivers in ndiswrapper. But I run the above code12:11
arundraculaNow it has wireless Menus12:11
arundraculaNow iwconfig says wlan012:11
duanedesignok the .conf warning is ok12:12
duanedesignit is just a warning that all files in that folder will somedady be required to have .conf12:12
arundraculaok12:12
duanedesignarundracula: if you left-click the network icon in the top panel can you see wireless networks?12:14
* seidos bows out12:14
arundraculaYes now it is there12:15
seidosarundracula, so everything is cool?  you can connect to your wireless ap?12:18
arundraculaYeah12:18
arundraculaThank you all..12:18
arundraculaBut..12:18
arundraculaThis is not only for connect to AP.. but also for a hotspot .. that I have to find now..12:19
seidosi don't see how an AP and a hotspot are any different.12:21
duanedesigngksudo gedit /etc/modules12:21
duanedesignthat looks like where the module needs to be added so it loads at boot12:21
duanedesignthat way you do not have to modprobe it every time you shutdown and start up12:22
arundraculaIn that I have to type.. modprobe rtl8180?12:22
duanedesignjust rtl818012:23
arundraculaok12:23
duanedesignhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/493592/12:24
duanedesignshould look something like that^^12:24
duanedesignyou might not have lp and rtc12:24
arundraculadone12:24
arundraculaI have lp12:24
duanedesignmakes me wonder what 'rtc' is :)12:25
seidosi was just thinking i wonder if there is a database of all the modules with descriptions12:25
* seidos googles12:25
duanedesignarundracula: FWIW, modprobe -r <modulename>   will do the opposite and unload a module12:26
arundraculaok12:26
seidoshmmm, couldn't find anything12:30
seidoswell i found modprobe -l | more but that doesn't help, since there are no descriptions12:30
arundraculathere is a problem12:31
arundraculaI created a wireless connection and it is not showing up in the left click menu12:32
arundraculaNo there are some connect to hidden networks etc..12:32
arundraculaYo .. working now12:33
duanedesigngreat12:36
arundraculaActually I want to share my ppp0 connection with my mobile over wifi12:37
arundraculaAnd that is not happening here12:37
arundraculaThank you for your support12:44
Silver_Fox_Hello.14:33
duanedesignhello Silver_Fox_14:34
Silver_Fox_Hello duanedesign .14:34
Silver_Fox_How are you sir ?14:34
hobgoblinhello Silver_Fox_ duanedesign14:35
Silver_Fox_o/14:35
duanedesignSilver_Fox_: i am good. Woke up this morning with a craving for some Lunch from my favorite Indian Food restaurant. So I am counting down the hours till Lunch time :)15:01
Silver_Fox_I usually have breakfast when i wake up15:01
Silver_Fox_Maybe you were just hungry?15:01
arundraculaI want to share my wvdial internet over wlan0 . How to do?15:08
arundraculaI am not too good in masquerade. So advice needed15:08
arundraculaI don't know what to do after this:  sysctl -w net.ipv4.conf.all.forwarding=115:12
arundraculaiptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE15:12
arundraculaiptables-save15:12
duanedesignarundracula: i am not sure. I have never done that15:18
arundraculaok15:19
duanedesignarundracula: However i did have a link in my bookmarks on the subject. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html15:19
arundraculachecking..15:20
arundraculaI can say how I connected in Windows if it helps15:34
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arundraculaDon't know what to do after IPforwarding17:02
reaper50435I am having trouble installing this game, tried gmount-iso, wine they both give me a error Pol gives me a list of commands but i cannot get them to work18:29
arundraculaI think my wifi card not supporting master mode.. But here says it is .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/MasterMode#Realtek%20RTL8180%20cards%20(rtl8180-sa2400%20project)18:44
waheedhi there need help regarding  ircd-ircu19:09
reaper50435has anyone got suse 9.3 to install in vbox before because it is not detecting the partition hard drive that i made in vbox for it20:27
red1hi21:11
phillwhi red121:13
sebsebsebHi21:13
red1i can't open the link on this page http://watch-series.com/open/cale/98736/idepisod/14224.html21:13
red1do i need something to open it?21:13
phillwred1: I've just followed the link and got the following error "You either took a wrong turn or the site is screwed. Don't panic! "; I suggest you follow the http://watch-series.com/contact link to let them know.21:15
red1but it works with windows21:15
red1do i need some kind of flash update?21:18
yofelhm, trying to open that page I got 1 redirect to a 404 message, and one page that tells me to upgrade flash21:19
phillwred1: http://watch-series.com/404_page reports that it should work okay, I'm not their tech department so you would be best off asking them via the link provided. Sorry I cannot be of more help, but it is not reporting an error on my system, only a server error on theirs.21:20
red1ok thanks21:20
phillwI'm using the daily build of chromium, let me just check with my stable Firefox browser .... ahhh, well, they've gone :-\21:21
metulz231Hello I'm having a problem getting the sound to work on my computer. I've tried finding the driver I need but no luck21:24
phillwhi metulz231 http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 is a really good place to start with, as they have instructions in the sticky area & you can ask about specific drivers etc.21:28
metulz231Awesome. I just can't figure this out. Kinda frustrated.21:29
kosaidpohello guys21:53
kosaidpowhats the diffrence btw these tree packages linux-image 21:53
kosaidpolinux-headers 21:53
kosaidpolinux-kernel-headers 21:53
yofelkosaidpo: I can't fine linux-kernel-headers anyway, but the image is the actual kernel image and driver modules package, and the headers package contains the source code headers that are needed to build additional driver modules for the kernel (like the nvidia drivers)22:05
yofels/anyway/anywhere/22:06
kosaidpoyofel: okay tnx : )22:06

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