=== AndrewMC is now known as SpockVulcan
=== SpockVulcan is now known as AndrewMC
[03:41] <uchobby> HOw would one go about getting a USB Headset working on Ubuntu 10.04?
[03:42] <meindian523> um, plug it in and tell Sound Preferences to use it?
[03:42] <uchobby> trying that
[03:43] <uchobby> I get a pop up that says waiting for sound to load, and it never goes away, have tired this already
[03:43] <uchobby> "Waiting for sound system to respond"
[03:44] <meindian523> hmm, did your headset come with a driver CD?
[03:44] <uchobby> no
[03:44] <uchobby> and I've had no sound since I installed Ubuntu
[03:44] <meindian523> :/
[03:45] <uchobby> thought maybe I would try a USB headset
[03:45]  * meindian523 doesn't know
[03:45] <meindian523> hey, irrespective of headset or not
[03:45] <meindian523> you don't have sound?
[03:45] <uchobby> right, no sound
[03:46] <meindian523> uchobby, try replacing Pulseaudio with ALSA
[03:46] <uchobby> how? apt-get ALSA?
[03:47] <meindian523> wait
[03:48] <meindian523> pulseaudio's description in Synaptic reads "Wide range of supported client libraries. ESD, ALSA, oss...."
[03:48] <meindian523> strange
[03:49] <uchobby> apt-get install --reinstall pulseaudio - Saw a suggestion to try this, still get the issue, wonder if a restart is required or a mod probe
[03:51] <meindian523> uchobby, honestly, I would be exceeding my sense of responsibility if I advised anything I wasn't sure of
[03:51]  * uchobby nods
[03:53] <meindian523> you'll have to wait for someone who knows this stuff
[03:54] <meindian523> aveilleux, sound help?
[03:54] <uchobby> I check that there is a new version of alsa
[03:54] <uchobby> have intstructions fo rit
[03:55] <uchobby> a bit ugly but I'm going to try
[04:15] <[styx]> ok i dowloaded a program and when i open it to install it it opens archive manager?
[04:15] <[styx]> how do i get the installer?
[04:15] <meindian523> [styx], what program and where did you download it from?
[04:16] <seidos> [styx], did you download a tar ball?  you might have to compile it.
[04:16] <[styx]> eclipse ide from eclipse .org
[04:17] <seidos> [styx], depends what's in the archive you downloaded.  in all likelihood there is a configure script, if there is you will have to try to compile it
[04:17] <seidos> [styx], did you check synpatic package manager to see if there is an eclipse package there?
[04:18] <[styx]> ill look
[04:19] <seidos> well, there is an "eclipse" package.  i did sudo apt-get install eclipse in a terminal and it was going to install something that's 351MB
[04:20] <[styx]> yeah
[04:20] <seidos> yeah, looks right from sudo aptitude search eclipse
[04:20] <seidos> that'll be easier, to install it from synaptic, unless you want to try compiling it yourself
[04:21] <[styx]> wheres sudo
[04:21] <[styx]> i cant find it lol
[04:21] <[styx]> im new to linux
[04:21] <aveilleux> [styx]: It's a command in Terminal.
[04:21] <[styx]> i forget where i found it lasttime
[04:21] <[styx]> cmnd to get it?
[04:21] <aveilleux> [styx]: Um, sudo is its own command.
[04:22] <seidos> [styx], sudo is a command to run a program in terminal with root privileges
[04:22] <[styx]> ok
[04:22] <[styx]> so shallo
[04:22] <[styx]> shall i google the command?
[04:22] <aveilleux> [styx]: There's no reason to,
[04:23] <[styx]> or i kinda want to try compiling it myself
[04:23] <aveilleux> [styx]: We just explained exactly what it does. "root" is the administration account.
[04:23] <seidos> [styx], if you want to learn about, go for it :)
[04:23] <JoeMaverickSett> [styx]: if you would like to read more of it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudo
[04:23] <[styx]> cool thaks
[04:52] <meindian523> aveilleux, I think [styx] wanted to find the Terminal
[04:52] <aveilleux> meindian523: Uh, okay...
[04:53] <meindian523> and (s)he was confusing the command sudo with where you issue it, the terminal
[04:53] <meindian523> common mistake with new to computers/ new to linux
[05:07] <aveilleux> [[]
[05:07] <aveilleux> whoops.
[09:26] <Talib> Hi, I am a windows user trying out ubuntu. I was tols that /usr/bin is kinda like program files. My question is why are there no sub-directories used here? It seems a bit disorganized.
[09:26] <Talib> tols=told
[09:29] <pedro3005> Talib, because it's not a good analogy
[09:30] <pedro3005> Talib, http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html
[09:37] <Talib> ok, thanks. Still seems disorganized though, but I can live with it.
[09:40] <Talib> Let's say I want to write my own ubuntu software. I downloaded Code::Blocks and can compile a basic program. Now let's say I want to distribute this software. Do I just make tarball with a directory structure or are there package creators?
[09:45] <tdn> I have created a user during installation and said Yes to "Encrypt home dirs?". How do I get back to non-encrypted home dirs?
[09:46] <Talib> don't worry, found The Ubuntu Packaging Guide, just a lot to read
[09:57] <pedro3005> tdn, I found http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8459529&postcount=5
[10:03] <arundracula> my wifi card detected.. driver installed using ndiswrapper.. says hardware present.. but No device for wlan0...pls help
[10:05] <arundracula> iwconfig says only lo, eth0 and ppp0... no wlan
[10:05] <arundracula> And those have no wireless extensions
[10:13] <seidos> arundracula, i see you, but i can't think of anything right now.
[10:14] <arundracula> ok
[10:14] <arundracula> Anyway I am posting it in forum
[10:14] <seidos> arundracula, well, do you know what wireless chipset you have?
[10:14] <seidos> arundracula, good idea.  have you tried searching the forum yet?
[10:15] <arundracula> I searched..
[10:15] <arundracula> belkin : driver installed
[10:15] <arundracula> 	device (1799:700F) present (alternate driver: rtl8180)
[10:15] <seidos> arundracula, that doesn't sound like a wireless chipset.  did you download the windows inf file for your wireless device?
[10:16] <seidos> arundracula, do you know that ndiswrapper uses a windows driver to get your wireless working?
[10:16] <seidos> arundracula, you can get your wireless device by doing lscpi | grep Ethernet in terminal
[10:17] <arundracula> It is working in Windows
[10:17] <arundracula> 00:07.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2)
[10:17] <arundracula> 01:06.0 Ethernet controller: Belkin Device 700f (rev 20)
[10:17] <seidos> arundracula, ndiswrapper "wraps" a windows driver so that it can be used in linux
[10:18] <arundracula> ok
[10:19] <arundracula> In windows, it was showing as Ethernet controller. But I got it working by installing its driver in Windows.
[10:19] <seidos> arundracula, after installing ndiswrapper, you have to download the windows driver (the inf file) to ubuntu, then open ndiswrapper and point it to the inf file in ubuntu.
[10:21] <arundracula> Already done.. And it shows belkin: driver installed device (1799:700F) present (alternate driver: rtl8180)
[10:22] <seidos> all right.  hmmm, i'm trying to remember if there was anything else i had to do.
[10:22] <seidos> do you see network manager in the gnome tray?
[10:22] <tdn> pedro3005, should I run that as root or as the user with encrypted home?
[10:22] <tdn> pedro3005, I think this is an area of Ubuntu that is really poorly documented.
[10:22] <arundracula> Yes
[10:22] <tdn> :(
[10:23] <seidos> arundracula, is wireless checked?
[10:23] <seidos> arundracula, when you right click, is wireless checked on?
[10:23] <arundracula> There is no wireless there.
[10:23] <pedro3005> tdn, as the user with the encrypted home I think
[10:24] <seidos> arundracula, so you have the windows driver loaded in ndiswrapper, and no wireless is available.  have you tried restarting?
[10:24] <tdn> pedro3005, well... I am not really comfortable just running such a command. I do not know if it will delete my encrypted files or what.
[10:24] <arundracula> Restarted already.
[10:25] <seidos> arundracula, all i can think to do is to search the forums or google at this point.
[10:25] <arundracula> ok
[10:25] <arundracula> Anyway thank you
[10:25] <seidos> arundracula, it sounds like you've done everything you need to do, but i may be missing something.
[10:25] <seidos> arundracula, i'll help you search if you stick around :)
[10:25] <arundracula> ok
[10:25] <pedro3005> tdn, try man encryptfs-setup-private
[10:26] <arundracula> ifconfig wlan0 says Device not found
[10:27] <seidos> arundracula, are you using 10.04?
[10:28] <tdn> pedro3005, will et be enough if I just do this: rm -rf /home/foo ; deluser foo ; adduser foo ?
[10:28] <pedro3005> tdn, I suppose, but you'll lose your files
[10:28] <seidos> arundracula, did you use this to setup ndiswrapper:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[10:28] <tdn> pedro3005, I can just manually copy those outside before.
[10:29] <pedro3005> tdn, worth a shot then. couldn't hurt
[10:29] <tdn> pedro3005, ok.
[10:29] <arundracula> I am using 10.04
[10:30] <arundracula> I installed the driver using ndisgtk
[10:31] <seidos> arundracula, did you blacklist the bcm43xx?
[10:31] <arundracula> No
[10:32] <seidos> arundracula, it says to do so in ndiswrapper docs located here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[10:33] <arundracula> I was not sure if it is bcm43xx or something in that xx
[10:33] <tdn> pedro3005, I think it is not enouogh. There is some data under /home/.ecryptfs.
[10:34] <arundracula> done
[10:34] <arundracula> blacklisted
[10:35] <seidos> arundracula, you'll probably have to restart to reinitialize wireless.  you can *try* sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart in terminal to see if that does it, otherwise restart
[10:36] <arundracula> I will restart. You'll be here?
[10:38] <seidos> yeah
[11:04] <arundracula> Ok now. ifconfig returns lo, eth0 and ppp0 only
[11:05] <seidos> arundracula, well, i found this on the ubuntuforums:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-713058.html
[11:05] <seidos> arundracula, is the wireless device a pci card?
[11:06] <arundracula> Yes
[11:06] <seidos> ifconfig is the same as before, right?
[11:07] <seidos> arundracula, is the inf file you are using named net8185.inf?
[11:07] <arundracula> Yes
[11:08] <arundracula> There are three files, Belkin.ini, bet8185.cat, and RTL85n86.sys
[11:08] <seidos> if you have the realtek chipset, they recommended the net8185.inf driver to be used with the pci card, especially if you can confirm your card is using a realtek chipset
[11:08] <arundracula> sorry net8185.cat
[11:08] <seidos> hm, that's weird, no .inf file.
[11:08] <arundracula> Again sorry
[11:08] <seidos> arundracula, see if you can get a hold of the net8185.inf file from realtech
[11:08] <arundracula> Belkin.inf is really inf, not ini
[11:09] <arundracula> ok
[11:09] <seidos> i see
[11:12] <seidos> arundracula, i think i found it here:  http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&ProdID=35&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[11:13] <seidos> arundracula, there's also a linux driver.  if you get ndiswrapper working, maybe you can try that out if you're so inclined
[11:13] <arundracula> ok
[11:15] <arundracula> The ndiswrapper is for WindowsXP or Vista?
[11:18] <seidos> i think windows xp is a safer bet
[11:18] <arundracula> Because I tried WinXP and shows hardware not present
[11:18] <seidos> with the net8185.inf driver?
[11:18] <arundracula> yes
[11:18] <arundracula> I am trying Vista drivers now
[11:19] <seidos> and you restarted the system after installing?
[11:19] <arundracula> No
[11:19] <seidos> from what i've read, they recommend it.
[11:19] <seidos> but try the vista drivers if you want
[11:20] <seidos> well, basically arundracula, if this doesn't work, you'll have to pull the card out to verify what chipset your belkin card is using.  if it is the realtek 8185 then other people have got it working, so it should be possible if we follow the directions properly.
[11:22] <arundracula> ok
[11:26] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:27] <arundracula> Vista driver is also not working. Showing hardware present to No
[11:28] <seidos> arundracula, i'm not sure what else to try.  if you can confirm the chipset that is on your pci card, that would probably help verify the net8185.inf is the right driver.
[11:28] <arundracula> what if we use ndiswrapper -a parameter
[11:29] <seidos> instead of the gui?  doesn't hurt to try.
[11:29] <seidos> i'm not familiar with the command
[11:29] <arundracula> I looked into the card and it says RTL8185L
[11:29] <seidos> oh, something i also thought might help is poking around in lsmod
[11:30] <seidos> type lsmod in terminal, and look for the belkin device, and make sure no drivers are assigned to it that shouldn't show up
[11:32] <arundracula> No Belkin there
[11:32] <seidos> arundracula, i checked the ndiswrapper list, and the 8185 isn't listed there.  http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Category:PCI
[11:32] <seidos> arundracula, you might have better luck trying the linux driver.
[11:33] <arundracula> before that should I try this one's second post? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=435065
[11:35] <seidos> arundracula, yeah i saw that, but the device id they get is 701f...yours is 700f, and you verified your device is 8185 real tek chipset, and there is an 8185 linux driver from realtek...sooo, i don't know, it's up to you, but if it were i'd try the linux driver from realtek
[11:36] <arundracula> OK I am trying the linux driver.
[11:38] <seidos> arundracula, do you have a belkin f5d7000?
[11:38] <arundracula> Yes
[11:38] <seidos> arundracula, i think this is the forum post you want:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-713058.html
[11:39] <seidos> there is also a section where a user "Povilas" posted a quick guide for getting the linux driver working
[11:39] <arundracula> yeah he says about the -a parameter
[11:39] <seidos> i'll download the linux driver to see what kind of documentation comes with it, but it looks like you'll have to compile it :/  sorry, ndiswrapper would have been easier if it works.
[11:40] <arundracula> ok
[11:40] <arundracula> I am trying this one
[11:40] <duanedesign> bug 176507 <--says 'Fix Released'
[11:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 176507 in network-config (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "[hardy] RTL8185L driver not working (dups: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176507
[11:42] <seidos> duanedesign, thanks, i'll check it out
[11:44] <seidos> duanedesign, well, he's using 10.04, so the fix should already be included.  i think maybe because the device shows up as a belkin in lspci that the realtek driver isn't installed.
[11:52] <arundracula> tried that step. No changes
[11:52] <seidos> arundracula, are you there?  i just found some more ndiswrapper information.
[11:52] <duanedesign> seidos: bug 368679
[11:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 368679 in fedora (and 2 other projects) "wifi module rtl8180 freezes the system (affects: 11) (dups: 1) (heat: 64)" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368679
[11:53] <seidos> arundracula, check out this bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/151600
[11:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 151600 in linux-source-2.6.22 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "madwifi no longer working in kernel 2.6.22-12 and 2.6.22-14 (heat: 3)" [Low,Won't fix]
[11:53] <seidos> arundracula, someone said there that they had to do a "ifconfig wlan0 up" to get there wlan0 to show up in ifconfig
[11:54] <arundracula> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:55] <seidos> arundracula, you have the 1122 version of the realtek inf loaded in ndiswrapper?
[11:57] <arundracula> I don't know
[11:57] <arundracula> After that last step. system is slowing some times
[11:58] <arundracula> So I removed the ndis drivers
[11:58] <seidos> hmmm
[11:58] <arundracula> But .. my first driver automatically detected the hardware without passing the -a parameter. So I think that is correct version
[11:59] <seidos> arundracula, so you're saying it worked?
[12:00] <arundracula> I think it is more compatible than this Realtek's And also I opened the realtek .inf file and it says Wireless 54M Ethernet controller and my card is 54G
[12:00] <duanedesign> did modprobing the driver work. sudo modprobe rtl8180
[12:04] <seidos> that's actually a good idea, a sudo lshw might be a good idea too
[12:05] <duanedesign> i did that on mine and it loaded the rtl8180  drivers
[12:05]  * seidos tries it
[12:06] <duanedesign> lsmod | grep rtl8180
[12:06] <duanedesign> oops, wrong window :P
[12:07] <seidos> yeah it worked for me too, and sudo rmmod rtl8180 removed it
[12:07] <arundracula> Now I removed all ndis drivers. So I want to install it again. Which one.? Realtek's or the previous one?
[12:08] <duanedesign> arundracula: can you try running : sudo modprobe rtl8180
[12:08] <duanedesign> then:  lsmod | grep rtl8180
[12:08] <duanedesign> to make sure it loads
[12:09] <duanedesign> there is a bug about the module not auto loading
[12:09] <arundracula> done
[12:09] <arundracula> It says two warnings
[12:09] <arundracula> All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release.
[12:10] <arundracula> wowowwowo
[12:10] <arundracula> Now the wireless icon has wireless connections
[12:11] <arundracula> I have no drivers in ndiswrapper. But I run the above code
[12:11] <arundracula> Now it has wireless Menus
[12:11] <arundracula> Now iwconfig says wlan0
[12:12] <duanedesign> ok the .conf warning is ok
[12:12] <duanedesign> it is just a warning that all files in that folder will somedady be required to have .conf
[12:12] <arundracula> ok
[12:14] <duanedesign> arundracula: if you left-click the network icon in the top panel can you see wireless networks?
[12:14]  * seidos bows out
[12:15] <arundracula> Yes now it is there
[12:18] <seidos> arundracula, so everything is cool?  you can connect to your wireless ap?
[12:18] <arundracula> Yeah
[12:18] <arundracula> Thank you all..
[12:18] <arundracula> But..
[12:19] <arundracula> This is not only for connect to AP.. but also for a hotspot .. that I have to find now..
[12:21] <seidos> i don't see how an AP and a hotspot are any different.
[12:21] <duanedesign> gksudo gedit /etc/modules
[12:21] <duanedesign> that looks like where the module needs to be added so it loads at boot
[12:22] <duanedesign> that way you do not have to modprobe it every time you shutdown and start up
[12:22] <arundracula> In that I have to type.. modprobe rtl8180?
[12:23] <duanedesign> just rtl8180
[12:23] <arundracula> ok
[12:24] <duanedesign> http://paste.ubuntu.com/493592/
[12:24] <duanedesign> should look something like that^^
[12:24] <duanedesign> you might not have lp and rtc
[12:24] <arundracula> done
[12:24] <arundracula> I have lp
[12:25] <duanedesign> makes me wonder what 'rtc' is :)
[12:25] <seidos> i was just thinking i wonder if there is a database of all the modules with descriptions
[12:25]  * seidos googles
[12:26] <duanedesign> arundracula: FWIW, modprobe -r <modulename>   will do the opposite and unload a module
[12:26] <arundracula> ok
[12:30] <seidos> hmmm, couldn't find anything
[12:30] <seidos> well i found modprobe -l | more but that doesn't help, since there are no descriptions
[12:31] <arundracula> there is a problem
[12:32] <arundracula> I created a wireless connection and it is not showing up in the left click menu
[12:32] <arundracula> No there are some connect to hidden networks etc..
[12:33] <arundracula> Yo .. working now
[12:36] <duanedesign> great
[12:37] <arundracula> Actually I want to share my ppp0 connection with my mobile over wifi
[12:37] <arundracula> And that is not happening here
[12:44] <arundracula> Thank you for your support
[14:33] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[14:34] <duanedesign> hello Silver_Fox_
[14:34] <Silver_Fox_> Hello duanedesign .
[14:34] <Silver_Fox_> How are you sir ?
[14:35] <hobgoblin> hello Silver_Fox_ duanedesign
[14:35] <Silver_Fox_> o/
[15:01] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: i am good. Woke up this morning with a craving for some Lunch from my favorite Indian Food restaurant. So I am counting down the hours till Lunch time :)
[15:01] <Silver_Fox_> I usually have breakfast when i wake up
[15:01] <Silver_Fox_> Maybe you were just hungry?
[15:08] <arundracula> I want to share my wvdial internet over wlan0 . How to do?
[15:08] <arundracula> I am not too good in masquerade. So advice needed
[15:12] <arundracula> I don't know what to do after this:  sysctl -w net.ipv4.conf.all.forwarding=1
[15:12] <arundracula> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
[15:12] <arundracula> iptables-save
[15:18] <duanedesign> arundracula: i am not sure. I have never done that
[15:19] <arundracula> ok
[15:19] <duanedesign> arundracula: However i did have a link in my bookmarks on the subject. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[15:20] <arundracula> checking..
[15:34] <arundracula> I can say how I connected in Windows if it helps
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[17:02] <arundracula> Don't know what to do after IPforwarding
[18:29] <reaper50435> I am having trouble installing this game, tried gmount-iso, wine they both give me a error Pol gives me a list of commands but i cannot get them to work
[18:44] <arundracula> I think my wifi card not supporting master mode.. But here says it is .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/MasterMode#Realtek%20RTL8180%20cards%20(rtl8180-sa2400%20project)
[19:09] <waheed> hi there need help regarding  ircd-ircu
[20:27] <reaper50435> has anyone got suse 9.3 to install in vbox before because it is not detecting the partition hard drive that i made in vbox for it
[21:11] <red1> hi
[21:13] <phillw> hi red1
[21:13] <sebsebseb> Hi
[21:13] <red1> i can't open the link on this page http://watch-series.com/open/cale/98736/idepisod/14224.html
[21:13] <red1> do i need something to open it?
[21:15] <phillw> red1: I've just followed the link and got the following error "You either took a wrong turn or the site is screwed. Don't panic! "; I suggest you follow the http://watch-series.com/contact link to let them know.
[21:15] <red1> but it works with windows
[21:18] <red1> do i need some kind of flash update?
[21:19] <yofel> hm, trying to open that page I got 1 redirect to a 404 message, and one page that tells me to upgrade flash
[21:20] <phillw> red1: http://watch-series.com/404_page reports that it should work okay, I'm not their tech department so you would be best off asking them via the link provided. Sorry I cannot be of more help, but it is not reporting an error on my system, only a server error on theirs.
[21:20] <red1> ok thanks
[21:21] <phillw> I'm using the daily build of chromium, let me just check with my stable Firefox browser .... ahhh, well, they've gone :-\
[21:24] <metulz231> Hello I'm having a problem getting the sound to work on my computer. I've tried finding the driver I need but no luck
[21:28] <phillw> hi metulz231 http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 is a really good place to start with, as they have instructions in the sticky area & you can ask about specific drivers etc.
[21:29] <metulz231> Awesome. I just can't figure this out. Kinda frustrated.
[21:53] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[21:53] <kosaidpo> whats the diffrence btw these tree packages linux-image 
[21:53] <kosaidpo> linux-headers 
[21:53] <kosaidpo> linux-kernel-headers 
[22:05] <yofel> kosaidpo: I can't fine linux-kernel-headers anyway, but the image is the actual kernel image and driver modules package, and the headers package contains the source code headers that are needed to build additional driver modules for the kernel (like the nvidia drivers)
[22:06] <yofel> s/anyway/anywhere/
[22:06] <kosaidpo> yofel: okay tnx : )