[00:04] <MadnessRed> :/
[00:04] <MadnessRed> I pushed the new treeview menu
[00:04] <MadnessRed> not quite done yet but its close
[00:05] <Omega> We're doing great guys!
[00:05] <Omega> Keep up the good work.
[00:06] <Omega> Keep up the good work.
[00:06] <MadnessRed> just pushed another revision, now single clicking on the treeview should load the page
[00:07] <Omega> I've been putting off working on my thesis.
[00:08] <Omega> Have to have a rough draft ready for October first.
[00:09] <Muscovy> What's your thesis on?
[00:09] <Omega> Crypto
[00:10] <Omega> The sad part is I haven't deciced _exactly_ what I want.
[00:10] <Muscovy> Sounds like a neat topic.
[00:10] <Omega> It is!
[00:10] <Omega> :)
[00:11] <Omega> But, ubuntu-tour is the priority in here! :)
[00:11] <Muscovy> Have you narrowed down an area yet?
[00:11] <Muscovy> The topic of crypto is sort of a massive cloud to me.
[00:12] <MadnessRed> hm, I don't like the treeview background colour, gonna see if it can be changed to match the html
[00:14] <Muscovy> I'm pulling the new branch now to see what this is all about. :D
[00:16] <Muscovy> ...now is it just me, or do only two chapters display in the current code branch?
[00:18] <MadnessRed> only 2 show
[00:18] <MadnessRed> because they others are setup yet
[00:18] <MadnessRed> we need to put a tour.info file in all the other tours
[00:18] <MadnessRed> which will tell it where to put the tour
[00:18] <Muscovy> Ah.
[00:19] <Muscovy> Is that to prevent an exclude list for things like ./html?
[00:19] <MadnessRed> no, it so that we know what catagory each tour belongs in and, where it should be placed
[00:22] <Muscovy> Ah.
[00:22] <brandonj> is ubuntu-tour.py supposed to be crashing?
[00:22] <Muscovy> I think not.
[00:22] <Muscovy> Which revision?
[00:23] <brandonj> most recent code-development
[00:23] <Muscovy> What's the crash error? It works fine for me.
[00:24] <MadnessRed> and me,
[00:24] <Muscovy> MadnessRed, out of curiosity, how does the "open in default browser" work?
[00:24] <brandonj> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/493355/
[00:25] <MadnessRed> Muscovy: There is a python module called Webbrowser
[00:25] <MadnessRed> which opens a url in the default browser
[00:25] <brandonj> something wrong with that gconf stuff
[00:25] <MadnessRed> When the "url-changed" event occurs, it triggers a call back which intercepts it
[00:26] <MadnessRed> then if the is local, eg file:// it lets webkit load it, if not, it lets webbrowser load it
[00:26] <MadnessRed> brandonj, there appears to be
[00:26] <MadnessRed> can you run get_theme.py
[00:26] <brandonj> rather than run gconftool-2 can we use python-gconf?
[00:27] <brandonj> get_theme.py runs, but I get "no value set" for both keys
[00:28] <MadnessRed> interesting
[00:28] <Muscovy> I get no value for both as well, but it prints theme info.
[00:28] <MadnessRed> can you copy and paste the entire output
[00:29] <brandonj> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/493356/
[00:30] <MadnessRed> what theme?
[00:30] <MadnessRed> and what colour scheme?
[00:30] <brandonj> elementary
[00:31] <MadnessRed> hm, so quite a popular one
[00:31] <brandonj> is there a way to bypass all this theme stuff?
[00:32] <brandonj> there should be a boolean to disable it
[00:32] <MadnessRed> no, but I will make it so if the important ones aren't there, it uses the default
[00:32] <brandonj> thats also reasonable
[00:32] <MadnessRed> trying to work out how to set the background of a treeview
[00:33] <brandonj> gtk doesn't set that based on the theme?
[00:33] <Muscovy> I guess not the main page.
[00:33] <Muscovy> Since it's like a browser.
[00:34] <MadnessRed> it does
[00:34] <MadnessRed> but it makes it white
[00:34] <MadnessRed> I want it to blend but I think I got it anyway
[00:36] <MadnessRed> ok yh it works :)
[00:36] <MadnessRed> it was modify_base not modify_bg
[00:36] <MadnessRed> im pushing now
[00:37] <MadnessRed> done
[00:37] <MadnessRed> let me know what you thing, Im gonna make a fallback system from elementary now
[00:38] <brandonj> it should fallback to ubuntu default colors
[00:38] <MadnessRed> kk
[00:42] <MadnessRed> ok, brandonj, try now
[00:42] <MadnessRed> revision 40 should work for you
[00:47] <MadnessRed> does it work?
[00:50] <brandonj> yes, it does
[00:50] <Omega> :)
[00:50] <brandonj> so the text area is rendered in html?
[01:08] <MadnessRed> yes
[01:08] <brandonj> can the right click menu be disabled in there?
[01:25] <MadnessRed> I dunno, I'll see
[01:26] <MadnessRed> some of it is useful though like the copy part
[01:26] <brandonj> yeah but things like the reload option break it
[01:26] <brandonj> well, sort of
[01:30] <Omega> One of our members is called italian translator.
[01:31] <Omega> Do you guys think it is a good idea to include how to use assistive software?
[01:32] <brandonj> It certainly isn't a bad idea.  Once we get the software sorted we can make as many tours as we want and distribute them seperately
[02:26] <moiso> Hello everybody... my name is Moises, I'm a native spanish speaker (from Costa Rica) and I would like to help this project with the translation stuff)
[02:29] <moiso> how can I join the team?
[02:30] <Muscovy> What are you interested in helping with, moiso?
[02:31] <moiso> I was tinking in translations, but I could do some other things as well
[02:32] <maheshmohan> Hi guys, I commited some edits & typo's using bzr, but my launchpad page is not updated(my karma & recent activities remains same!)
[02:33] <Muscovy> maheshmohan: Karma is calculated once a day.
[02:34] <maheshmohan> ok
[02:34] <Muscovy> moiso: Keep in mind as we're not finished writing the tour, translating it is an uphill battle right now.
[02:34] <maheshmohan> also, I can run ubuntu-tour.py. am getting errors
[02:34] <maheshmohan> sorry. I can't
[02:34] <Muscovy> If you want to, how much do you need to know? Just how to translate, or do you need to know how to get the code too?
[02:35] <Muscovy> Could you paste them for us, maheshmohan?
[02:35] <maheshmohan> here it is http://pastebin.com/jGjhDgS1
[02:36] <Muscovy> Hmm.
[02:36] <Muscovy> When did you last update your branch?
[02:36] <Muscovy> We had an error just like that, but it was solved about a day ago.
[02:37] <maheshmohan> ok. I will pull now.
[02:41] <maheshmohan> ok.it's now working
[02:41] <Muscovy> Good. :D
[02:42] <maheshmohan> when will the project be finished? will it ship with maverick as default?
[02:42] <Muscovy> I wish it will ship in Maverick.
[02:43] <Muscovy> We'll have a moderately functioning tour by Maverick that we may make our own CD with.
[02:43] <maheshmohan> I meant, will it ship with official iso?
[02:43] <Muscovy> It'll be for 11.04 that we'll start lobbying for inclusion.
[02:43] <Muscovy> Not for Maverick, but hopefully in 11.04.
[02:44] <maheshmohan> ok.good
[02:47] <maheshmohan> the, how people use it in maverick? ppa? or in official repo?
[02:47] <Muscovy> I assume we'll make a PPA, but we might make it into the official repo by then.
[02:48] <Muscovy> However, we loose a lot of usefulness if people have to search us out.
[02:48] <Muscovy> The ultimate goal is inclusion in the ISO.
[02:48] <maheshmohan> ok. A good idea may be higlighting it in the ubuntu s/w center
[02:49] <maheshmohan> until included in iso
[02:49] <Muscovy> Yeah, but I bet it'll take just as many hoops to do that is it will to include it.
[02:50] <maheshmohan> yes. promo via omgubuntu will help us. I think that's why ubuntu manual got this much appreciation!
[02:54] <moiso> sorry I'm back. OK so I'll wait until the project is finished and then I'll work on the translations
[02:55] <moiso> maybe it's not the most important part of it, but many ubuntu users aren't english speakers :)
[02:55] <Muscovy> Have you added your name to the wiki list, moiso?
[02:56] <Muscovy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTour/Volunteers
[02:56] <Muscovy> We made that especially to collect willing translators for when we need them.
[02:56] <moiso> ok that's great
[02:57] <moiso> hey muscovy, I'm kind of a noob in this regards, so I have a question
[02:57] <Muscovy> Yes?
[02:58] <maheshmohan> I have a question to programmers
[02:58] <maheshmohan> Can I code in glade or I have to handcode pygtk?
[02:59] <Muscovy> I don't think we're using Glade.
[02:59] <moiso> What if I click the "join this team" link in the launchpad project page? Will I become a collaborator then?
[02:59] <Muscovy> But I'm not familiar with GUI programming, and we've been to busy for me to get up to speed with the coders.
[03:00] <Muscovy> maheshmohan: brandonj or MadnessRed would be good people to ask.
[03:00] <maheshmohan> ok Muscovy
[03:00] <Omega> We're not using Glade
[03:00] <Muscovy> moiso: yes.
[03:00] <brandonj> I've been summoned?
[03:01] <Muscovy> Summoned wantonly.
[03:01] <brandonj> certainly no glade
[03:10] <moiso> Ok done! I'm with you guys
[03:27] <Muscovy> I'm not quite sure how to do it myself, but the other chapters in the dev branch ought to have the tourinfo files.
[03:44] <brandonj> 50
[03:45] <brandonj> 50
[03:45] <brandonj> oops
[03:45] <brandonj> that was strange
[05:09] <gryman> Hello
[05:40] <laurent_> I must say the updates to the code-development branch with the tree as opposed to buttons and the bugs fixed are impressive
[05:58] <gryman> Yeah? I'll have to check it out!
[05:58] <gryman> I just got home from C# class
[06:30] <laurent_> Do you know where I can find high quality ubuntu logos in the new branding?
[06:33] <gryman> ubuntu.com?
[06:41] <Silasle> Hmm, MadnessRed did an nice work.
[06:42] <kuro> hew do I get the latest revision from the server?
[06:43] <gryman> Do you already have a local branch?
[06:43] <kuro> yes I used bzr branch
[06:43] <Silasle> bzr pull
[06:43] <laurent_> bzr pull
[06:43] <gryman> bzr merge
[06:43] <gryman> or pull
[06:43] <laurent_> bzr pull lp:ubuntu-tour for the writing
[06:44] <laurent_> the code is bzr pull lp:~ubuntu-tour/ubuntu-tour/code-development I think
[06:44] <kuro> deosn't that upload my work?
[06:44] <gryman> No
[06:44] <Silasle> bzr push uploads
[06:44] <gryman> push does
[06:44] <kuro> okay thanks
[06:49] <gryman> shift insert doesn't work in Visual Studio, fyi...  ;)
[06:55] <aksharpatel47> Can someone explain to me what would happen if : I pull the code from bzr, I make some revisions to it, somebody else pushes his revision before me and then I push my revisions
[06:55] <aksharpatel47> ?
[06:56] <gryman> You'll be asked to merge before you push yours
[06:56] <gryman> and then you can fix any conflicts, if any
[06:57] <aksharpatel47> okay
[06:57] <aksharpatel47> so that part has to be done manually
[06:57] <gryman> If there's any conflicts, yeah, you'd have to fix them manually
[06:58] <aksharpatel47> thanks
[06:58] <aksharpatel47> :)
[06:58] <gryman> You don't really want the computer guessing which spelling of a word is best
[06:58] <aksharpatel47> he he
[06:58] <aksharpatel47> sure I don't
[06:58] <aksharpatel47> :D
[07:02] <aprilg> hi all
[07:02] <aprilg> re the screenshots, I'll be placing them under the images folder, is that alright ?
[07:02] <aprilg> will upload to lp:ubuntu-tour
[07:10] <laurent_> place them in images/screenshots maybe aprilg
[07:10] <laurent_> the reason is that there will be other images such as the icon and logo etc.
[07:10] <laurent_> if you agree of course
[07:11] <laurent_> I am just pushing a commit to lp:ubuntu-tour now
[07:11] <gryman> OMG NO
[07:11] <laurent_> it contains a logo I made for the first page, just a draft
[07:11] <laurent_> tell me what you think
[07:11] <gryman> j/k
[07:11] <gryman> :P
[07:11] <laurent_> it's finished on my end
[07:25] <aprilg> laurent_ I'll place them under /images/screenshots/folder name (about-ubuntu or empathy or ... ) wachuthink?
[07:26] <kuro> the localization system doesn't yet work does it? I just translated a page but I still get the english version.
[07:28] <kuro> allthough the tour.info works
[07:30] <kuro> and there will be language spcific images, right?
[07:37] <laurent_> eventually
[07:49] <laurent_> aprilg, do you want me to start linking in some of those screenshots?
[07:49] <aprilg> laurent_ if you want to, go ahead
[07:49] <laurent_> I'll do that now
[07:49] <laurent_> are they resized?
[07:49] <aprilg> I think the only one I missed was the desktop.jpg
[07:50] <aprilg> everything else was cropped and resized
[07:50] <laurent_> ok
[08:12] <laurent_> I'm just pushing some of the inserted images
[08:13] <laurent_> I think it will change a lot though
[08:13] <laurent_> also, I'm beginning to think now that images are being added and I was using a lot of div tags for placement, it's kind of annoying having the auto BR on \n etc.
[08:15] <aprilg> laurent_ just let us know if you want to remove the autoBR on \n so we can edit the text :)
[08:15] <laurent_> I can remove it but some might prefer it with the auto br, it just makes the HTML in the text files look ugly because you have to remove whitespace
[08:25] <aprilg> oh, ok. I'm fine with either way. whatever makes things better, I guess.
[08:25] <aprilg> by the way, I like the tour bus :D
[08:26] <laurent_> I was bored when I got home from work :P
[08:29] <aprilg> looks great. and it makes the ubuntutour seem fun.
[08:30] <aprilg> anyway, I'll head out for a bit
[08:30] <aprilg> be back later
[08:32] <laurent_> I'm going to edit the two panel images to make them fit inside the tour
[11:39] <marco____> Buongiorno a tutti
[12:50] <laurent_> goodnight
[15:23] <Silasle> Do we have some list of in which order the sections should be displayed?
[15:38] <Silasle> MadnessRed: Are you here?
[15:38] <MadnessRed> hi
[15:38] <Silasle> Hi
[15:38] <MadnessRed> Silasle, the sections are in an array in tour.py
[15:38] <Silasle> How was the tour.info planned
[15:39] <MadnessRed> ?
[15:39] <Silasle> position means position in the whole tour or in the current section?
[15:42] <Silasle> Because numbers higher then 9 doe sent work.
[15:42] <Silasle> *doesn't
[15:48] <kuro> I looked at the tour.py code, and if html is disabled, the html_to_raw method doesn't even get called because of a bug, which I already fixed, but anyhow, that method only removes br's so I added some regex's to remove other tags, but what should I do with the image links? for now they are just lost
[15:49] <Silasle> Do we need the possibility to disable html?
[15:56] <kuro> well I guess not, I just saw it in the code and tried to fix it :-)
[15:57] <kuro> but with html the user needs python-webkit also, that's an additional 180k
[16:01] <MadnessRed> Hi Silasle, what did you say after position men position ...
[16:01] <MadnessRed> men -> means
[16:07] <Silasle> position means position in the whole tour or in the current section?
[16:07] <MadnessRed> yh, that was the last message i got before my internet died, what did you say afterwards
[16:07] <Silasle> kuro: Isn't python-webkit default?
[16:08] <MadnessRed> and it means, the position in the caragory
[16:08] <MadnessRed> it is
[16:08] <Silasle> Because numbers higher then 9 doesn't work.
[16:08] <MadnessRed> hm
[16:08] <MadnessRed> ah
[16:08] <MadnessRed> ofc
[16:08] <MadnessRed> lol, comparing strings, not integers :/
[16:09] <kuro> well then there's no point in having the text displayed in raw form is there?
[16:09] <MadnessRed> 1 sec, easy fix, I'll sort it
[16:09] <MadnessRed> kuro, no, it should enable html by default, raw for is just incase, eg is someone tries on Feisty or something
[16:12] <kuro> but this program is intended for maverick, shouldn't it check at the beginning for that, and maybe give a warning and then stop execution if it's not?
[16:14] <MadnessRed> probably
[16:15] <MadnessRed> I pushed the fix for positions higher than 9
[16:15] <MadnessRed> can you push all the tour.info files
[16:16] <kuro> shoul'd it stay in there, it would be good to know where the images would go
[16:24] <Silasle> Ok, i'm back
[16:24] <Silasle> Pulling
[16:26] <Silasle> But positions change the whole category order.
[16:27] <Silasle> Looks like this now: v
[16:27] <Silasle> * http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4997718/Screenshot-19.png
[16:27] <Silasle> Dont know why it start whit emphaty.
[16:27] <Silasle> brbr
[16:29] <Silasle> back
[16:33] <Silasle> The Hmm, about-ubuntu seems to be nr 11
[16:36] <MadnessRed> ?
[16:36] <MadnessRed> can you push all the tour.infos
[16:36] <MadnessRed> I only have 2 atm
[16:38] <Silasle> Done
[16:44] <Silasle> MadnessRed: But how can the order of the categories be changed, the position way sort of worked.
[16:44] <MadnessRed> In tour.py
[16:45] <MadnessRed> the default catagories are listed in a list
[16:45] <MadnessRed> if you jsut change the order of that list for now
[16:45] <MadnessRed> I will make something more complex later
[16:45] <Silasle> Which list?
[16:46] <Silasle> Ah, found it
[16:48] <Silasle> Looks as it should now.
[16:51] <Silasle> I'll update the texts to them from the main branch, ok?
[16:54] <Silasle> What's that: self.load_page(self.children[self.parents.keys()[pos[0]]][pos[1]],0) ?
[16:54] <Silasle> MadnessRed: You can write but i'm away..
[16:54] <GiulioC> hi all
[16:55] <MadnessRed> hi, sorry, we a bit distracted
[16:55] <MadnessRed> pos, is the position in the treeview
[16:55] <GiulioC> no problem..
[16:55] <MadnessRed> which is a touple, [0] is the parent, [1] is the item
[16:55] <MadnessRed> how are you GiulioC?
[16:55] <GiulioC> but..why don't we use launchpad for translations?
[16:55] <kuro> I'm too looking at that line right now
[16:56] <GiulioC> fine thanks, you?
[16:56] <kuro> i get an indekerror
[16:58] <MadnessRed> odd, it looks like Internet and Multimedia are the wrong way round
[17:05] <MadnessRed> im ok
[17:05] <MadnessRed> kuro: I think its because dictionaries are sorted :/
[17:05] <MadnessRed> easy to fix though hopefully
[17:08] <MadnessRed> ok sorted, does it work now kuro?
[17:11] <kuro> well I don't get any output now, and many pages don't work
[17:12] <kuro> now I only get a GtkWarning every now and then
[17:13] <MadnessRed> ?
[17:13] <MadnessRed> what pages don't work?
[17:15] <kuro> well like you said before, internet and multimedia is mixed, so is office, and when I click for example on photo management, nothing happens, that's where I got the indexerror before, but also an mail, ubuntu one and network settings
[17:16] <MadnessRed> try doing a pull
[17:16] <MadnessRed> I fixed that on my version
[17:17] <kuro> no revisions to pull
[17:17] <kuro> should be the newest one
[17:17] <MadnessRed> odd
[17:17] <MadnessRed> and things are still mixed round?
[17:18] <kuro> hmm I tried bzr branch ... and this one works
[17:19] <MadnessRed> ok kl
[17:20] <MadnessRed> ok, try and see if you can get 45
[17:20] <MadnessRed> it should show the right first page
[17:21] <kuro> but the sections are sorted, wouldn't it be better if getting started was on the top and so on
[17:23] <kuro> works fine on the now branch I downloaded, but on the old one I get some conflicts
[17:23] <kuro> *new
[17:24] <MadnessRed> getting started is on the top
[17:25] <kuro> nope
[17:25] <kuro> it's alphabetically ordered
[17:25] <kuro> ok not really
[17:25] <kuro> but getting started is at pos 3
[17:26] <MadnessRed> its top for me
[17:26] <kuro> then there must be something wrong
[17:26] <MadnessRed> what is the order for you?
[17:27] <kuro> continue playing, internet, getting started, multimedia, office
[17:27] <kuro> from top to bottom
[17:28] <MadnessRed> ah, I see what has happened
[17:29] <kuro> what?
[17:31] <MadnessRed> I used self.catagories for 2 different lists
[17:32] <MadnessRed> fix commited and pushed
[17:33] <kuro> works now
[17:34] <kuro> what about the progressbar? it's kinda bugging me that it doesn't start at 0, wouldn't that be nicer?
[17:35] <MadnessRed> if you would like
[17:36] <MadnessRed> the thing is that say there are 4 pages
[17:36] <MadnessRed> by the time they have got to the bottom of the 4 pages, they have done 1/4
[17:36] <MadnessRed> Also what if there is only 1 page?
[17:36] <MadnessRed> The last page should be 100% and the first 0%
[17:37] <kuro> that's what I mean, right now the 1st page is never 0%
[17:38] <MadnessRed> so say you had 4 pages, would you like to see:
[17:38] <MadnessRed> 0/3, 1/3, 2/3, 3/3
[17:38] <MadnessRed> as the progress for those pages?
[17:41]  * Silasle is back
[17:42] <kuro> why not
[17:42] <kuro> look fine
[17:42] <MadnessRed> ok, so what does a 1 page tour look like?
[17:42] <kuro> well that would be 100%
[17:43] <MadnessRed> but then there is an inconsistency, between starting at 0%, and then one suddenly starts at 100%
[17:44] <MadnessRed> I agree with you for the most part though
[17:44] <kuro> right nom 1 page is 100% so what does it matter if it starts at 0 or 15
[17:45] <kuro> because when I first saw the progressbar I tried to slide it to the right xD
[17:46] <MadnessRed> I did too
[17:46] <MadnessRed> I agree with everything you are saying, I am just a bit worried about it looking odd for 1 page tours
[17:46] <Silasle> Seems to work except of one thing no images displayed
[17:47] <kuro> how about implementing a sliding thingy? :-)
[17:47] <MadnessRed> I commit the 0% to 100% progress bar
[17:47] <MadnessRed> comitted#
[17:47] <MadnessRed> and pushed
[17:47] <kuro> in the main branch are already images
[17:48] <MadnessRed> Silasle: What images?
[17:48] <MadnessRed> kuro: What do you mean by a sliding thing?
[17:48] <kuro> you only had to remove the +1 right xD
[17:48] <Silasle> At the first page for example
[17:48] <MadnessRed> ok, is that jsut because they haven't been added yet?
[17:49] <MadnessRed> kuro: yes, and do a check for division by 0
[17:49] <Silasle> I have them
[17:49] <Silasle> Wait, i'll send an screenshot
[17:49] <kuro> you know like what some webpages have, if you slide the slider to the right the content moves to the left and the next content comes from the right
[17:50] <Silasle> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4997718/Screenshot-20.png
[17:50] <kuro> why div by 0? it's one page minimum isn't it
[17:50] <kuro> check your link
[17:51] <MadnessRed> yes, but with 1 page, the last page is 0
[17:51] <kuro> it might be wrong
[17:51] <kuro> but I just removed the +1 and it worked fine
[17:51] <kuro> even with 1 page
[17:51] <MadnessRed> ok,
[17:52] <MadnessRed> well, no harm being safe
[17:52] <Silasle> Yea, i found out the problem, but why is it checking at one page above the directory whit the .py files ?
[17:53] <kuro> don't know, must have been implemented that way
[17:53] <MadnessRed> Silasle: Because I told it to
[17:53] <Silasle> crazy, that folder could be named everything
[17:54] <kuro> knew it xD
[17:54] <MadnessRed> yes but surely the name will be whatever the creator named it
[17:54] <MadnessRed> but yes, I'll change
[17:54] <Silasle> For our branch it's code-development and for the main branch it's ubuntu-tour
[17:56] <kuro> mousepad is only in xubuntu default not ubuntu right?
[17:56] <MadnessRed> ok pushed to code developement
[17:57] <MadnessRed> its in the folder above the text,
[17:57] <MadnessRed> which means that stuff can be shared between languages easier
[17:58] <Silasle> What is it at for example about.ubuntu/ ?
[17:58] <MadnessRed> yes
[17:58] <Silasle> Why that?
[17:58] <Silasle> Right now the images are at images/
[17:59] <MadnessRed> so your folder may looks like: en, en_GB, images
[17:59] <MadnessRed> and you would do <img src="images/img.png" />
[17:59] <kuro> Ii think it should be images/en; images/es etc
[18:00] <MadnessRed> why?
[18:00] <Silasle> Hmm, but we will need different images for different languages.
[18:00] <MadnessRed> but each file loads its own images
[18:00] <kuro> changing language in ubuntu is easy anyway
[18:00] <MadnessRed> maybe I should just keep it simple and put the images in the en folder
[18:00] <MadnessRed> so its en/images
[18:00] <kuro> well
[18:00] <MadnessRed> and you would still do <img src="images/img.png" />
[18:00] <kuro> fine with that
[18:01] <MadnessRed> so the htmls act from their own folder
[18:01] <MadnessRed> and if they want to share
[18:01] <MadnessRed> <img src="../shared_img/shared.png" />
[18:02] <kuro> I even like that better. nice done :-)
[18:02] <MadnessRed> pushed
[18:03] <kuro> you push so much, you know that?
[18:03] <MadnessRed> Too much?
[18:03] <MadnessRed> I try and push every change asap to avoid conflicts
[18:03] <kuro> oh right, there's that
[18:04] <kuro> ok, keep pushing
[18:04] <MadnessRed> Anyway can someone push the images?
[18:05] <Silasle> jI'm working on to change the html and move the images
[18:06] <MadnessRed> also, 1 thing I should say about positions
[18:06] <MadnessRed> say you have something you want at the bottom of a list, or you want to leave a gap for something else, thats file
[18:07] <MadnessRed> you can give somthing a position of 100, and that is fine, positions don't need to be consequtive
[18:07] <Silasle> Ok, i already recognized that.
[18:07] <kuro> hey what is better, using os.popen or subprocess
[18:07] <Silasle> Never heard of subprocess
[18:08] <MadnessRed> subprocess
[18:08] <MadnessRed> generally
[18:09] <MadnessRed> subprocess was designed as a replacement to os.popen and os.system
[18:09] <MadnessRed> gives you a bit more control
[18:09] <kuro> allright thx
[18:10] <MadnessRed> I mean sometimes os.system is easier
[18:11] <MadnessRed> os.system('clear') for example
[18:11] <Silasle> Pushed for about-ubuntu
[18:12] <kuro> I thougth of something, how about checking if python-webkit is installed, if not then prompt the user to install it to continue, so I would use subprocess to call 'software-center python-webkit'
[18:13] <Silasle> Python-webkit should be installed  as one of the dependencies.
[18:13] <Silasle> If it's not default, i dont think i have installed it.
[18:14] <kuro> i know, just to be safe, people can uninstall things you know
[18:15] <Silasle> It cant damage
[18:15] <kuro> somethings wrong, I can't seem to find any about-ubuntu page
[18:16] <Silasle> I have it
[18:18] <MadnessRed> ubuntu tour logo is slightly too wide
[18:19] <Silasle> I know
[18:19] <MadnessRed> Thing is the browser window depends on the items in the menu
[18:19] <MadnessRed> perhaps if you set the width to 100%
[18:19] <MadnessRed> It would shrink as required then
[18:19] <Silasle> Mmm
[18:20] <Silasle> Comes whit the next push
[18:20] <MadnessRed> ok
[18:20] <MadnessRed> also the panel image
[18:20] <MadnessRed> maybe you should have Ubuntu Tour running
[18:21] <MadnessRed> then they would see where the programs go
[18:21] <Silasle> I haven't changed anything there except uri, it's from the main branch
[18:21] <MadnessRed> ok
[18:22] <MadnessRed> I think I will make a new profile for Screenshots :)
[18:23] <kuro> maybe somebody should add to the tour how to do that
[18:24] <MadnessRed> How to add a new profile,
[18:24] <kuro> yes
[18:27] <Silasle> Ok, pushed
[18:29]  * Silasle is away
[18:41]  * Silasle is back
[19:01] <Toki2> Will you enable translations in Launchpad for translators?
[19:02] <Toki2> I'd be interested in translating the tour into german. :)
[19:03] <kuro> then do it
[19:03] <Toki2> Launchpad says: "No translation activities recorded for Ubuntu-Tour Team." :/
[19:04] <kuro> you need to download the code
[19:04] <kuro> use bzr branch lp:ubuntu-tour
[19:04] <brandonj> We don't have translations setup in launchpad yet
[19:05] <Toki2> I guess I have to learn to use bazaar then. XD
[19:06] <Toki2> Thanks for the info. ;)
[19:17] <aksharpatel47> any one knows the results of the doodle poll for the meeting?
[19:18] <brandonj> saturday 11am EST
[19:18] <brandonj> (15:00 GMT?)
[19:19] <aksharpatel47> k
[19:19] <aksharpatel47> where will the meeting be held?
[19:19] <aksharpatel47> on IRC?
[19:19] <brandonj> yeah
[19:19] <brandonj> Either me or somebody else will send out an email to the list soon
[19:20] <aksharpatel47> okay
[19:20] <aksharpatel47> thanks for the info :)
[19:48] <MadnessRed> hi all, my internet got disconnected, did I miss anything?
[23:23] <MadnessRed> hi all
[23:46] <Muscovy> Hi everyone.
[23:51] <MadnessRed> hi
[23:51] <MadnessRed> its a bit quiet in here this evening
[23:53] <Muscovy> Phew!
[23:53] <Muscovy> 86 revisions to the main branch.
[23:55] <MadnessRed> not me
[23:55] <MadnessRed> I like in the code branch
[23:55] <MadnessRed> live#
[23:55] <Muscovy> I see people have already started adding pictures.
[23:56] <Muscovy> One or two will need replacing though.
[23:56] <MadnessRed> yh
[23:56] <MadnessRed> can you push the page updates to code-dev please
[23:56] <Muscovy> Sure.
[23:57] <MadnessRed> ty