[00:00] <Emanon> and btw pfifo dcfldd works better (i think)
[00:00] <pfifo> Emanon, guess it depends on the file
[00:00] <sebsebseb> earthling_: anyway your welcome
[00:01] <earthling_> sebsebseb, so I can install other desktops at the same time, and then it keeps track of all the k programs if I want to delete it?
[00:01] <sebsebseb> earthling_: uh no not exactly, but
[00:01] <earthling_> on aptitude
[00:01] <FalsAlarm> sudo locate mysqld.sock
[00:01] <sebsebseb> earthling_: well maybe on aptitude, but  when I used aptitude I used it instead of typing in apt-get mainly
[00:01] <FalsAlarm> unable to find this file on my system, where can I get it from?
[00:02] <sebsebseb> earthling_: there are  ways to remove other desktops with commands
[00:02] <andre_pl> pfifo: yeah. its too slow though :( the file exists on a raid 5 array thats in the process of rebuilding itself for the next 12 hours or so... and writing all that extra data to disk is gonna take forever
[00:03] <earthling_> sebsebseb, you have kubuntu and gnome both installed?
[00:03] <cjcopi>  andre_pl: checkout truncate(1) for a command line tool or truncate(2)/ftruncate(2) for a library routine.  The key will be to make sure you get the size you want to keep correct otherwise you will lose information!
[00:03] <sebsebseb> earthling_: not at the moment,  since  another distro, but  in  the past well yes, and Lubuntu and Xubuntu as well
[00:04] <andre_pl> cjcopi: THANKS!
[00:04] <earthling_> neat
[00:04] <sebsebseb> earthling_: and in the distro I currently am on,  Gnome, KDE, and a preview of the look for the next Gnome
[00:05] <sebsebseb> earthling_: that will probably be changed quite a bit before the final version of Gnome 3 comes out, probably in March next year, but this has gone off topic now :D
[00:05] <Emanon> although dc3dd was updated more recently and is a patch instead of a fork so...
[00:05] <FunkyELF> When is the 10.10 release date?
[00:06] <Emanon> october some time FunkyELF
[00:06] <sebsebseb> FunkyELF: next month on Sunday the 10th
[00:06] <Emanon> thus the 10.10
[00:06] <sebsebseb> FunkyELF: 10/10/10
[00:06] <Emanon> they actually going for 10.10.10?
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Emanon: yep
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Emanon: instead of Thursday 28th October
[00:06] <haytham-med> 10 10 10 :)
[00:06] <Emanon> awesome think they will make the deadline?
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Emanon: of course
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Emanon: its nearly ready now
[00:06] <hshsh> anyone use dd-wrt???
[00:06] <Emanon> okidoke
[00:06] <Emanon> hshsh: i do
[00:07] <earthling_> ok
[00:07] <sebsebseb> Emanon: normally they release final versions and alphas and betas and relase candidates on a Thursday
[00:07] <FunkyELF> sebsebseb, I've never used Ubuntu (Gentoo user) but I just built a new system and want to give it a go.... think I should use the beta now or just wait till 10.10?
[00:08] <sebsebseb> FunkyELF: oh this isn't really the channel for 10.10, since
[00:08] <sebsebseb> FunkyELF: the final version isn't out yet, but I'll answer that in #ubuntu+1
[00:09] <kronosphere> my trendnet wifi pci card drivers are not compatible w/ win7 so i am wondering how to find out if it is compatible with ubuntu?
[00:09] <sebsebseb> FunkyELF: join there :)
[00:10] <jsec> kronosphere: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[00:10] <FunkyELF> sebsebseb, joined
[00:10] <kronosphere> jsec: you da-man!
[00:13] <FalsAlarm> what is the command to set the mysql root password
[00:13] <FalsAlarm> after just installing mysql-server package
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> kronosphere: run: sudo lshw -C network   to find the chip out, websearch the product line to find guides
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> !sql
[00:16] <wickedSA> FalsAlarm: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0
[00:17] <_Neytiri_> how do i install a gui onto 10.4.1
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: the desktop has a gui by default
[00:18] <aeon-ltd> _Neytiri_: well sudo apt-get install X for starters then sudo apt-get install (de or wm of choice)
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: *desktop ISO
[00:18] <FalsAlarm> wickedSA, I have mysql-server package installed, should I switch to mysql-server-5.0 ?
[00:18] <aeon-ltd> _Neytiri_: are you on server?
[00:19] <wickedSA> FalsAlarm: I think mysql-server is a meta package, you can try that comand without the -5.0
[00:19] <FalsAlarm> actually i only see the mysql-server-5.1 package
[00:19] <FalsAlarm> is that stable?
[00:19] <wickedSA> FalsAlarm: ok, try it with -5.1
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: if you wanted a desktop OS, why did you install server???????/
[00:20] <_Neytiri_> i want a server for most of what i run, i need a guy for 1 application on my server
[00:21] <jrib> _Neytiri_: what app?
[00:21] <_Neytiri_> one i maid
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: you can install server apps on the desktop OS
[00:21] <jrib> _Neytiri_: pick your favorite window manager and install it I guess...
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: if you install a desktop on it you wil essentially have the desktop OS but will have double the kernels
[00:22] <_Neytiri_> i would rather not have to resintall everything
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    then
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: next time, install the desktop system will you, its what you need
[00:23] <_Neytiri_> thaknyou and the rest of my rack is running server os so i would hate to have to have 1 desktip out of 48 servers
[00:23] <aef> on my lucid amd64 box i can get the package ia32-sun-java6-bin which only seems to be the java JRE. is there a way to get the 32 bit JDK on my 64 bit system?
[00:24] <g0tcha> hey guys, im trying to compile something that requires openssl, openssl is installed but it still says it cannot find it.. i tried to ./configure wit the location of openssl and still nothing.. any ideas?
[00:24] <Sir_Konrad> hey, am I allowed to use the Ubuntu logo on my site to show that I install it on machines that ship out of my company?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha: you'll need the -dev package for it too
[00:24] <psusi> g0tcha, did you install openssl-dev?
[00:24] <g0tcha> i dont think so
[00:24] <g0tcha> let me check
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Konrad: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[00:24] <Sir_Konrad> thanks ActionParsnip
[00:25] <psusi> it's looking for the header and .a files, which are not in the normal package... you need -dev
[00:25] <g0tcha> it says "it couldnt find package penssl-dev
[00:25] <psusi> hopefully you can look at what you just pasted and spot the error yourself
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha: try: apt-cache search open | grep ssl | grep dev | less
[00:26] <g0tcha> ActionParsnip, hmm bunch of stuff i dont understand showed up.. what should i look for?
[00:27] <psusi> hrm... actually... wtf?  there isn't an openssl-dev
[00:27] <tacomaster> ok maybe im doing this wrong but when i click share my internet connection on my wireless so i can get a desktop internet (only have wireless) it changes my ip of my wireless to something off the subnet of my wireless router so it wont connect?
[00:27] <kevin_> heuu
[00:27] <kevin_> i'm lost
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha: the leftmost column are the package names
[00:27] <kevin_> this bot?
[00:28] <UnknownException> if i have linux mint, can i install ubuntu without the live cd, etc?
[00:28] <etrnl> so I have a machine with 10.04 on it, it was working fine and then I rebooted it and now its stuck at the ubuntu boot logo, but I can still ssh into it
[00:28] <messi> g0tcha: just try dpkg -L openssl-dev to see if there would be some output (none means not installed)
[00:28] <g0tcha> this libcurl4-openssl-dev ?
[00:28] <kevin_> how exit this chat?
[00:29] <Emanon> kevin_: /part
[00:29] <kevin_> thanks
[00:29] <kevin_> bye all
[00:29] <Emanon> np
[00:29] <etrnl> anyone?
[00:30] <UnknownException> anyone got any ideas for my question.
[00:30] <th0r> etrnl: I'm anyone
[00:30] <pfifo> UnknownException, yes you can
[00:30] <etrnl> o I have a machine with 10.04 on it, it was working fine and then I rebooted it and now its stuck at the ubuntu boot logo, but I can still ssh into it
[00:30] <g0tcha> messi, its not installed
[00:31] <Emanon> no idea etrnl
[00:31] <etrnl> all I did was uninstall/install the evtouch driver
[00:31] <Emanon> same for UnknownException
[00:31] <etrnl> and all the sudden gdm isn't starting
[00:31] <Emanon> you were both heard but we're all stumped for now
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> UnknownException: if you have unpartitioned space, you can mount the CD and maybe run the nistaller but I doubt it. You should boot to USB / CD and install
[00:32] <th0r> etrnl: if you can ssh into it, check dmesg and /var/log/messages for some indication of what went wrong starting X
[00:32] <etrnl> lemme see if unininstalling it fixes anything
[00:32] <Emanon> actually you can use virt-manager to install to other partitions/drives from a running os try that
[00:32] <UnknownException> haha... thanks for the answer. ok so here is what i have done. im in linux mint right now, and i typed sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.
[00:32] <jfer> hi. i would like o know how to package a deb from an archive of binaries
[00:32] <Agent001> Hi, I'm having trouble syncing ipod with rhythmbox 0.31.1
[00:32] <pfifo> UnknownException, you can use the package debootstrap to setup and build a base system but it is not easy, your much better off installing from CD
[00:32] <UnknownException> it did a lot of stuff. but i dont know the implication
[00:33] <Emanon> Agent001: yea its spotty
[00:33] <Agent001> spotty?
[00:33] <UnknownException> pfifo: ActionParsnip thanks guys. i guess i will just try with cd. the last time i tried , ran into some issues with the grub loader. i could not boot into windows. but then somehow got it to work. just wanted to avoid that.
[00:33] <Emanon> sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt Agent001
[00:34] <Emanon> i have trouble with my iphone
[00:34] <kasansweat> Anyone using xpra? I've got it working, but only on the same LAN. Would love to get it working through the internet, but it appears to be a lag problem (windows pop up, but don't "populate") Any ideas?
[00:34] <Emanon> in fact i am installing a virtual machine with windows 7 right now to get around that
[00:34] <kevin_> existe t'il des serveur ubuntu francais?
[00:34] <kevin_> french*
[00:34] <JrGong> just installed ubuntu 10.4 server and I guess because I installed without a network connection my sources.list is not populated....anyone know where I can find a copy?
[00:34] <Emanon> !fr | kevin_
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> JrGong: i can give you one?
[00:34] <kevin_> thanks
[00:35] <JrGong> thanks ActionParsnip
[00:35] <JrGong> feel free to pm me :)
[00:35] <Agent001> I've unable to get rhythmbox, gtkpod, banshee, to sync to my ipod. Is that a coincidence?
[00:35] <kevin_> #ubuntu-fr
[00:35] <etrnl> th0r, I should be looking for something relating to x11 or gdm, correct?
[00:35] <Emanon> np
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> JrGong: http://pastebin.com/kYwGaH5q
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> JrGong: you may have to import some GPG keys but cross that when you get to it
[00:35] <Emanon> no Agent001 if your device decides linux aint cutting it you're pretty much SOL sorry
[00:35] <th0r> etrnl: correct....there is also a boot.log if I recall correctly (don't have linux booted up at the moment)
[00:35] <JrGong> yup yup ...... I really appreciate it ActionParsnip
[00:36] <Emanon> pray that they will finish idroid soon
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> JrGong: no worries duder
[00:36] <JrGong> :)
[00:37] <etrnl> th0r:  weird it only has a log of up to starting CUPS, which never got a response
[00:37] <Emanon> if you have a computer that can handle VM's and a legit install disk you might try virtualbox or virt-manager Agent001
[00:37] <Emanon> then you can just do it natively in windows
[00:38] <etrnl> removed evtouch drivers and rebooting now
[00:38] <th0r> etrnl: I am booting my vm now so I can take a look
[00:38] <ssfdre38> how can i update my server?
[00:38] <Fredrick> how do i use neflix in ubuntu
[00:38] <etrnl> so its something with evtouch
[00:38] <etrnl> weird
[00:38] <Emanon> you dont Fredrick
[00:38] <etrnl> rebooted just fine'
[00:38] <Emanon> netflix wont allow it
[00:38] <Fredrick> there is no support?
[00:38] <Emanon> not yet
[00:39] <Fredrick> no way to use wine?
[00:39] <Emanon> dont think so
[00:39] <Fredrick> this sucks
[00:39] <kasansweat> Fredrick: yeah, I have it, but I run XP in Virtualbox. Ugly hack, but in a beefy enough system it works well
[00:39] <Agent001> Can you run itunes on wine?
[00:39] <Emanon> similar to apple they have been fighting us
[00:39] <kasansweat> Fredrick: how fast is your computer?
[00:39] <Emanon> Agent001: not after version 6
[00:39] <jfer> how can i package a deb from an archive of binaries?
[00:39] <Emanon> kasansweat: is right but thats not exactly in linux
[00:39] <Fredrick> this is my moms, so its pot a 1ghz prosseser
[00:40] <Emanon> might try the wii version of netflix in the dolphin wii emulator
[00:40] <etrnl> 1ghz procs still exist?
[00:40] <etrnl> :x
[00:40] <kasansweat> Oh, I know. It sucks. It's the only reason I would even have it on there.
[00:40] <Fredrick> ha yea, i know
[00:40] <Emanon> as soon as i get my wii re jailbroken ill make an image and try
[00:40] <kasansweat> I read somewhere that Netflix on Wii doesn't have all the same movies/shows as the computer version.
[00:41] <etrnl> ok so it was a bag config option
[00:41] <Fredrick> whats the point of a jail broken wii?
[00:41] <Emanon> actually there is an *ahem* certain version of windows 7 thats halfway decent kasansweat
[00:41] <kasansweat> Not sure if its true though
[00:41] <etrnl> back to the drawing board
[00:41] <aeon-ltd> Fredrick: homebrew channel, and thats it also its not the right place to post here
[00:41] <kasansweat> Emanon: haha yeah, but since that's literally all I use that Virtualbox XP installation for, I figure i won't fix it if it ain't broke
[00:41] <kasansweat> that's my media center pc
[00:42] <Fredrick> why not aeon-ltd?
[00:42] <Fredrick> i use ubuntu, and its an ubuntu compatibility issue
[00:42] <aeon-ltd> Fredrick: because this is #ubuntu
[00:42] <Fredrick> i use ubuntu
[00:43] <aeon-ltd> Fredrick: don;t matter, this isn't a club, this is a support channek for ubuntu issues not for ubuntu users in general
[00:43] <ohshaith55> hello, i would like to boot into ubuntu off of a dvd could somebody help me out?
[00:43] <aeon-ltd> *channel
[00:43] <Emanon> ohshaith55: sure what trouble you having?
[00:43] <aeon-ltd> ohshaith55: burn the iso to the disc
[00:43] <Emanon> yea thats pretty much it
[00:43] <datacrusher> ohshaith55, can you download and burn the iso?
[00:44] <ohshaith55> no trouble yet, yeah i can handle burning it
[00:44] <sirecat> ohshaith55: Yeah just restart the computer with the dvd in the drive. Look for an option to boot to cd/dvd and there you go
[00:44] <tca> is there a channel specifically for 10.10 beta?
[00:44] <Emanon> yea just get the desktop version burn it and boot from it
[00:44] <aeon-ltd> !ubuntu+1 | tca
[00:44] <ohshaith55> that's what i thought but i was warned by a friend who did something wrong and had to spend 3 hours in here so i wanted to make sure
[00:44] <aeon-ltd> ohshaith55: you may need to tweak the BIOS
[00:44] <ohshaith55> :)
[00:45] <ohshaith55> i know how do that, too
[00:45] <aeon-ltd> ohshaith55: oh, good. sounds like you'll be fine
[00:45] <Emanon> yea the live disk does nothing to your system no worries there
[00:45] <ohshaith55> it burned in like 30 seconds? does that most likely mean it didn't work?
[00:45] <rbastic> what type of computer is it oshaith55, on my asus g50v (approx 2 yr old machine, was higher-end laptop) i had to set bios mode to Compat..
[00:46] <ohshaith55> win7 like 4 years old
[00:46] <gudmund_> hi, i think i got an alsa problem, but im not an expert
[00:46] <Emanon> nah doesnt take very long to burn the desktop image
[00:46] <ohshaith55> i can handle the bios, i've booted from usb, before
[00:46] <Emanon> !details | gudmund_
[00:47] <ohshaith55> ok i'm gonna come into here on a mobile client in case something happens
[00:47] <Emanon> sounds good ohshaith55
[00:48] <SubCool> Hey, stupid question- I just asked this last night, and it helped, but now i remember why i was curious, I need to know a HD Format that is permitable between on 3 OS's, and - allows for greater than 4gb files (movies/OS images). WHich would be the best option?
[00:48] <gudmund_> im running ubuntu 9.10 on my new asus Eee 1001px, the sound works, but when i plug in the headset there is no sound
[00:48] <SubCool> I already have a majority of my drive taken to Fat32, but now i also need something larger...
[00:48] <BitEncrypt> where is a good tutorial on how to install source code
[00:48] <ohshaith55> ok, i gotta restore my droid incredible to stock so i get my apps back... i'm guessing you guys know what i'm talking aobut
[00:48] <Emanon> format or container SubCool?
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> gudmund_: could try the latest alsa: https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/unstable
[00:48] <jrib> !compile > BitEncrypt
[00:49] <gudmund_> i tried to install latest alsa backports like described here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules
[00:49] <jrib> BitEncrypt: though in general it is better to use the repositories.  We can give you better help if you tell us exactly what you want to install
[00:49] <aeon-ltd> gudmund_: do you know how to use terminal?
[00:49] <SubCool> Emanon, container?
[00:49] <gudmund_> but when i got new drivers the mic is not working
[00:49] <jfer> SubCool if you are are running windows and linux i would use ntfs
[00:49] <Emanon> oh thought you meant high def sorry
[00:49] <rbastic> gudmund_, what drivers did you get?
[00:49] <SubCool> jfer, im using all three
[00:49] <Emanon> lol i was about to suggest .mkv haha
[00:49] <SubCool> This is for a Media server- All three will access it, and write to it,
[00:50] <Emanon> yea just go ntfs SubCool
[00:50] <jfer> all three being?
[00:50] <rbastic> gudmund_, or are you sure you're using the correct ones? if you have the correct driver set in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[00:50] <SubCool> Windows,  linux, MAC
[00:50] <jfer> ok yer ntfs would be best
[00:50] <SubCool> but mac cant write to NTFS right?
[00:50] <new> can any body help me with backtrack
[00:50] <SubCool> damn-
[00:50] <Emanon> how new?
[00:50] <SubCool> i already have issues with it
[00:50] <gudmund_> aeon-ltd: yea i know terminal
[00:50] <aeon-ltd> new: ask in #backtrack
[00:50] <sebsebseb> new: Backtrack is not meant to be used as a desktop OS, its for security penetration
[00:50] <rbastic> gudmund_, then generally everything should work fine but you might have to check settings with alsamixer and also Sound Preferences in the gui
[00:50] <sebsebseb> !backtrack | new
[00:50] <MrPPS> hey guys, i'm trying to get my ubuntu server to be a host for Xen VM's, and I'm trying to install xen-tools, but the package isn't available apparently, and ubuntu-xen-server won't install without it - anyone know how i can install it?
[00:50] <aeon-ltd> gudmund_: ok, go to a terminal type alsamixer
[00:50] <gudmund_> i got linux-backports-alsa-drivers
[00:51] <jfer> SubCool you may want to checkout http://macntfs-3g.blogspot.com/
[00:51] <gudmund_> oky i got alsamixer running
[00:51] <SubCool> awesome- thanks
[00:51] <SubCool> gladly
[00:51] <gudmund_> can i as well use gnome-alsamixer?
[00:52] <aeon-ltd> gudmund_: using the up arrow key make sure you max out all bars and none if them show MM, they should be 00
[00:52] <aeon-ltd> gudmund_: yeah
[00:52] <FalsAlarm> how do i check which packages are installed using apt-get?
[00:52] <gudmund_> okey
[00:52] <gudmund_> ok everything maxed
[00:53] <BitEncrypt> would anybody help me install a driver
[00:53] <aeon-ltd> gudmund_: now try your headphones
[00:53] <gudmund_> but note that ive gone back to my old drivers
[00:53] <BitEncrypt> from source code
[00:53] <JLaverne> sure BitEncrypt
[00:53] <randomOfAmber> how can I get a .deb and all it's dependencies into a folder? I don't know what it's dependencies are
[00:53] <gudmund_> oky no sound
[00:53] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, i can help
[00:53] <jrib> BitEncrypt: tell us *exactly* what you want to install
[00:53] <SubCool> jfer, Emanon  what about Ext3 or Ext2?
[00:53] <aeon-ltd> FalsAlarm: dpkg -l
[00:54] <SubCool> Cant PC write to HFS+
[00:54] <Emanon> SubCool: not natively supported with windows
[00:54] <randomOfAmber> SubCool: ubuntu can, but not journaled HFS+
[00:54] <Emanon> there are utilities but not netive support
[00:54] <gudmund_> but with the newest alsa backports i remember i got another choise in soundpreferences, under output: "headphone output"
[00:54] <aeon-ltd> gudmund_: are the headphones working for sure? also check other sound settings
[00:54] <SubCool> ok- thanks guys, sorry. i already lowered my standards to fat32, couldnt help but try.
[00:55] <SubCool> Wooohoo to media server!!!
[00:55] <aeon-ltd> gudmund_: with the newest alsa backports try these solutions again
[00:55] <SubCool> bbl
[00:55] <BitEncrypt> jrib: i pm you
[00:55] <gudmund_> aeon-ltd_: yea the headphones are working, and iwe tried different ones
[00:55] <jrib> BitEncrypt: use the channel
[00:55] <gudmund_> okay, then ill be back in about 3 minutes
[00:55] <BitEncrypt> its a d-link driver
[00:55] <BitEncrypt> for ethernet
[00:55] <rbastic> random asus note: i've found asus-mode3 to work on my asus g50v laptop for alsa-base.conf
[00:56] <rbastic> that includes internal mic support with Skype 2.1 beta
[00:56] <jrib> BitEncrypt: are you sure it doesn't just work already?
[00:56] <SubCool> interesting- gparted wont make a ntfs partition. Does it have to be Primary? - sorry about the stupid questions, kinda a data dump after each time i use it.
[00:56] <aeon-ltd> gudmund_: ok hope it works, i might be gone so ask in general, and tell people what you've tried already
[00:56] <Emanon> SubCool: download ntfsprogs
[00:56] <BitEncrypt> i know.....
[00:56] <Emanon> to let gparted make them
[00:56] <Emanon> sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[00:56] <randomOfAmber> how can I get a .deb (for a package) and all it's dependencies into a folder? I don't know what it's dependencies are
[00:56] <Emanon> or is it ntfsutils?
[00:56] <gudmund_> okey, thanx :)
[00:57] <JLaverne> i hope this is the right channel to ask this. Since broadcom released some of its drivers for linux, will they be included in the 10.10 release?
[00:57] <BitEncrypt> jrib: i know
[00:57] <ohshaith55> turns out the first time it failed to burn the disc...
[00:57] <Emanon> nope i was right the first time ntfsprogs
[00:57] <rbastic> ohshaith55, try another one ! ;-)
[00:57] <ohshaith55> then it said the disc was writable so i popped another in and i'm gonna try it now
[00:58] <BitEncrypt> jrib: if you can assist, i would be grateful
[00:58] <ohshaith55> should i check verify?
[00:58] <SubCool> Emanon, i guess i should install via the DVD from now on.
[00:58] <rbastic> randomOfAmber - it's kind of a generic question, do you have a specific package in mind?
[00:58] <ohshaith55> ello? should i set it to verify disk after burning?
[00:59] <jrib> BitEncrypt: not right now, no.  But it seems strange that it wouldn't work.  Anyway if you're sure you need to compile it, read both ubottu's link ndathe documentation for the driver
[00:59] <Emanon> Probably not JLaverne was too recent maybe 11.04
[00:59] <BitEncrypt> jrib: ok
[00:59] <Emanon> sure ohshaith55
[00:59] <randomOfAmber> rbastic: I want to get linux-headers-2.6.32-21-generic for lucid, but then I might need more to install my driver on a server install
[00:59] <ohshaith55> ok
[01:00] <ohshaith55> hopefully it works. my computer is a bucket of bolts
[01:00] <rbastic> eek -- my only experience so far has been with desktop 64-bit edition (10.04) ... frankly everything works and is quite impressive :D
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> ohshaith55: boot to the CD. When yu see the stickman, press space and run CD verifier there
[01:01] <ohshaith55> lol ok stickman. got it
[01:01] <randomOfAmber> i see, I'm running it on an old IBM, and got some drivers from intel's site for the wired/wireless (surprised it didn't have them already), so now I have to install them
[01:01] <ohshaith55> phone is now booted up so i can get on the mobile clietn
[01:02] <ohshaith55> then i can boot into ubuntu
[01:02] <ohshaith55> how do you pronounce that, btw?
[01:02] <ohshaith55> oo bun too?
[01:02] <ohshaith55> uh bun too?
[01:02] <kasansweat> hmm, I go oo boon too
[01:03] <pfifo> maah gin ooh boon too
[01:03] <Jordan_U> ohshaith55: You can hear Nelson Mandela say it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODQ4WiDsEBQ
[01:03] <JLaverne> Emanon, oh well. im glad they released them at least.
[01:03] <Emanon> yea no kidding right JLaverne
[01:03] <ohshaith55> oo boon too
[01:03] <ohshaith55> ftw
[01:04] <JLaverne> Emanon, i switched to ubuntu on a laptop with a broadcom card, with no linux experience. talk about a nightmare.
[01:04] <Emanon> well the hardware driver finder worked fine for me on my dads laptop but yea its a pain
[01:05] <JLaverne> the certain card i had, the hardware finder installs a driver that doesnt work at all
[01:05] <JLaverne> and you have to blacklist the driver before you can install the correct one from source code
[01:06] <afeijo> hey guys !!!
[01:06] <afeijo> me again
[01:06] <regeya> reetings!
[01:06] <afeijo> I am recreating my usb with live ubuntu
[01:06] <Emanon> !hi | regeya
[01:07] <rbastic> what's the nature of the blacklisting process? i'm not familiar with what this is/why it's necessary, i've seen the files in modprobe though
[01:07] <JLaverne> rbastic, it was something with the way it loads the drivers.
[01:07] <regeya> My apologies, Eamon.  I had said that in response to afeijo, who for whatever reason didn't receive the same treatment.
[01:07] <ohshaith55> this is not working with the dvd...
[01:08] <JLaverne> i think the two drivers installed for the same card make problems
[01:08] <regeya> does my nickname annoy people, or something?  It seems often that people can be total weirdos in this channel, and if I have one errant comment, a ton of bricks comes down on my head
[01:08] <afeijo> but the app that create the initializable disk, have the extra space disabled!?!? :(
[01:08] <afeijo> sorry if I translated it wrong, my dist is in my lang
[01:08] <regeya> that's strange afeijo.  iirc there's an option to specify how much free space you can have for read/write
[01:09] <BitEncrypt> Jlaverne: are you jrib?
[01:09] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, no lol. why?
[01:09] <afeijo> regeya, aye! but it is disabled, I formated the drive, restarted the app, and its still disabled
[01:09] <gudmund> hi i got a problem with my sound
[01:10] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: would you be willing to help install a driver
[01:10] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: source code
[01:10] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, sure. which one
[01:10] <regeya> oy vey.
[01:10] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: d-link ethernet
[01:10] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, do you already have the source files downloaded?
[01:10] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: yes
[01:11] <ohshaith55> nvm. i'll be back tomorrow.
[01:11]  * regeya waits for someoen to direct him to #ubuntu-yi
[01:11] <gudmund> i got an Asus Eee 1001px with ubuntu 10.04, first everything worked, but when i plugged headset there was no sound...
[01:11] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, can i have a link to the download? then i can tell you exactly what to do
[01:12] <Emanon> oh hehe regeya i have irc in the background (im doing many things) so i miss things sometimes
[01:12] <rbastic> What are peoples overall experiences with the proprietary Nvidia drivers? (particularly those available for Linux 64-bit from nvidia.com)
[01:12] <rbastic> I hate to do it, but I want compiz-fusion to run well... Can't do it without them.
[01:12] <Emanon> i've been happy with them rbastic
[01:12] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: i will PM you
[01:12] <JLaverne> please post the link here
[01:12] <Emanon> and they ARE proprietary but at least nvidia provides them for us
[01:13] <pksadiq> I  use Nvidia and ubuntu 64bit
[01:13] <Emanon> and i do wish theyd make them open but it is their right not to
[01:13] <rbastic> So, do you install the driver from the site or do you use a packaged one?
[01:13] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, please talk on the channel
[01:13] <rbastic> i.e. via Synaptic or via nvidia.com
[01:13] <aguitel> me too
[01:13] <Emanon> i use the hardware driver finder most times but sometimes i grab the latest from their site
[01:13] <pksadiq> it's nice to see compiz-fusion-extra
[01:14] <jrgp> I run lucid and every once in a blue moon my up arrow key stops working. The only way of fixing it is to restart. I really don't feel like restarting right now. What can I try?
[01:14] <bribroder> they're definitely better supported than ati cards
[01:14] <rbastic> restart x ? :p
[01:14] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: their is no download link...but i do have instructions. can i pm them to you
[01:14] <rbastic> ctrl-alt-backspace maybe
[01:15] <duffydack> !dontzap | rbastic
[01:15] <joshritger> what is the app that is used to manage users in gnome, I did an install from the net install disk and don't have the user editor
[01:15] <rbastic> Ooooh, I see.
[01:15] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, i would prefer to stay on the channel. is there an install text file, or a readme file included with the source code?
[01:15] <cwryuu> Hmmm, there's not a vmware image of 10.4 desktop floating around somewhere is there?
[01:15] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: yes
[01:15] <bribroder> joshritger, i think you want gdm
[01:15] <jrgp> rbastic: yeah it probably is an X issue since the key works on the virtual consoles
[01:15] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, open the install one
[01:15] <gudmund> does anyone with linux skills got some time? i got a netbook sound problem :/
[01:15] <rbastic> that's incredibly strange
[01:16] <jrgp> gudmund: what's up?
[01:16] <joshritger> bribroder: I have gdm, I am talking about the app used to edit users, not log on and off
[01:16] <duffydack> cwryuu, probably, but would you trust it?  download the iso, and install yourself.
[01:16] <jrgp> rbastic: yes well I wonder if it has anything to do with vnc. I connected to my desktop via x11vnc a few hours ago
[01:16] <pksadiq> Before installing nvidia drivers you need to backlist some installed drivers, Google for  more details
[01:16] <gudmund> first the sound seemed good, but when i plugged headset the sound dissapeared
[01:16] <victorh> Hi! Two days ago there was a guy here who said that ubuntu 8.04 has a bug when using "sudo -k echo "password" | ...". But I don't remember the command to use. I wanna try it here.
[01:16] <gudmund> so i installed new alsa drivers like described here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules
[01:17] <rbastic> jrgp, maybe
[01:17] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: their "rhine"
[01:17] <bribroder> joshritger, it's users-admin
[01:17] <joshritger> thanks
[01:17] <gudmund> now the headset work, but not the mic anymore
[01:17] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, im not following you... are you familiar with terminal?
[01:18] <BitEncrypt> no
[01:18] <jrgp> rbastic: I'm kind of not inclined to restart X since I've got some vm's running under virtualbox that are acting as servers. Can I make them go to the background or somehow not depend on X running?
[01:18] <maco> victorh: it was:   sudo -k && echo "fakepassword" | sudo -p "" -S bash -c 'whoami > output' > /dev/null && cat output
[01:18] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: no
[01:18] <cwryuu> duffydack: the one's I see on rapidshare probably not. Was hoping to avoid having to do another ISO install (the 10th in the last 7 days) but oh well :/
[01:18] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, move the whole source folder to your desktop
[01:18] <victorh> thank you, maco
[01:18] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, just drag and drop
[01:18] <maco> victorh: they said itd say "root" but i dont see that happening...though i probably need to actually use sudo before i can sudo -k so lets see...
[01:19] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: it is in a folder on my DT
[01:19] <joshritger> bribroder: do you know if that is part of a package, I get nothing in synaptic
[01:19] <maco> victorh: mm nope still doesnt. it just tells me incorrect password three times
[01:19] <victorh> maco: it's true
[01:19] <victorh> maco: "root
[01:19] <victorh> "
[01:19] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, what is the name of the folder
[01:19] <Tuplario> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows how to get automatic spellchecking for all X apps?
[01:19] <duffydack> cwryuu, surely, having the ISO is quicker to install then downloading already installed from who knows where
[01:19] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: Linux
[01:20] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, when you open that folder what is inside it?
[01:20] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: thats right off of the cd
[01:20] <bribroder> it's part of gnome-system-tools
[01:20] <joshritger> thanks
[01:20] <victorh> maco: I got this message, but when I was on 10.04
[01:20] <bribroder> you'll get a bunch of other stuff with it
[01:21] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: rhine.h
[01:21] <maco> victorh:  im on 10.10 and it tells me "Sorry, try again" 3 times then "sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts"
[01:21] <joshritger> ok
[01:21] <elliot_> I have warcraft 3 running but I can't see it, the music is still going but it is minimised and there is no icon
[01:21] <BitEncrypt> kcompat.h
[01:21] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, what happens if you open that?
[01:21] <victorh> maco: maybe the problem was solved to 10.*
[01:22] <gudmund> jrgp_: you dont know anything for my error?
[01:22] <victorh> maco: or to > 8.04
[01:22] <jrgp> gudmund: sorry no idea
[01:22] <gudmund> okey
[01:22] <jrgp> gudmund: have you looked through the volume control settings? at the switches?
[01:22] <cwryuu> duffydack: true true, I'll probably just do an install once, shutdown the vm, then copy it for future use
[01:23] <gudmund> yes i have tried all switches...
[01:23] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: it opens gedit, and its source code
[01:23] <jrgp> gudmund: I wish I could help you further but I honestly haven't a clue
[01:23] <gudmund> i removed   linux-backports-modules-alsa-2.6.32-24-generic and  linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic
[01:23] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, that is strange. there are no other files in the Linux folder?
[01:24] <gudmund> and installed   linux-alsa-driver-modules-2.6.32-24-generic
[01:24] <gudmund> okey
[01:24] <gudmund> thanx anyhow
[01:24] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: their are 13 files in that folder
[01:24] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, is there a file named "MAKE"?
[01:24] <snow_usa> hi
[01:24] <afeijo> what else can I do to enable the extra space to the create initializable disk app?
[01:24] <noisewaterphd> hey, I really, really, want something like Xshell for Ubuntu: http://www.netsarang.com/products/xsh_detail.html what are the options?
[01:24] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: yes "makefile"
[01:24] <JLaverne> perfect
[01:24] <snow_usa> is it possible to apt-get install somepackage without root permission ? ( I may want to install it in my home dir)
[01:25] <maco> victorh: i'll spin up an 8.04 vm when i get home tonight and have a look
[01:25] <possomcrast> hey guys just dual booted 10.4 for the first time
[01:25] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, open terminal and type "cd ~/Desktop/Linux" without the quotes
[01:25] <maco> victorh: since 8.04 is still supported on servers
[01:25] <noisewaterphd> snow-usa: I believe apt itself requires elevated permissions
[01:25] <maco> victorh: ok its still supported on desktop too, just not much longer
[01:26] <gionnico> i installed UNR 10.04 in my aspire one a100 and updated the kernel (0-day update after fresh install). well I LOST THE BOOTSPLASH! Now weird text appears and it's not even aligned. every line has a different position in the screen
[01:26] <noisewaterphd> come on, there has to be a great terminal manager for linux
[01:26] <gionnico> why and how can I restore the cute bootsplash?
[01:26] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: ok
[01:26] <JLaverne> gionnico, same problem here, ive just been ignoring it
[01:26] <maco> gionnico: the misalignedness is normal
[01:26] <gionnico> maco: but it's ugly: why did it work after fresh install?
[01:26] <maco> gionnico: check that plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo is installed?
[01:27] <gionnico> is it a kernel issue? maco the write appears for few seconds
[01:27] <noisewaterphd> even something like putty connection manager would be better than nothing
[01:27] <gionnico> then it's screwed up by text.. [ok] stuff
[01:27] <joshritger> what group does a user have to be part of to allow shutting down, I currently have to log off then shutdown from gdm
[01:27] <gionnico> *the write I mean the logo
[01:27] <maco> gionnico: no, plymouth not displaying shouldnt be related to the kernel in any way
[01:27] <victorh> maco: yes. I will talk with alexander later to tell him it worked in my ubuntu
[01:27] <maco> victorh: which version are you on?
[01:27] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, ready for the next step?
[01:28] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: ye
[01:28] <fugdnscerd> question about system cloning... Wondering if its possible to use a boot image from an amd 32 bit machine on an intel 32 bit machine
[01:28] <gionnico> JLaverne: do you have plymouth installed?
[01:28] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, now type "sudo make" without the quotes
[01:28] <victorh> maco: i'm on 8.04
[01:28] <maco> victorh: k
[01:28] <JLaverne> gionnico, yes, latest version
[01:28] <gionnico> JLaverne: i hope at least it will be fixed soon
[01:29] <gionnico> i think they care more when they release kernel for a media
[01:29] <victorh> maco: sorry, I'm on Ubuntu 8.10 - Intrepid Ibex
[01:29] <maco> gionnico, JLaverne:  when you boot, hold down shift to get to the grub menu. hit 'e' to edit the boot line. see if "quiet splash" is in there. if its not, add it to the end of the long vmlinuz line
[01:29] <gionnico> or anyways if it isn't kernel, any package in general
[01:29] <JLaverne> gionnico, but plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo was not installed, as maco suggested
[01:29] <rbastic> Hello, back again. How do I kill X to run the Nvidia installer script?
[01:30] <maco> victorh: 8.10's not supported anymore ;-) but 8.04 is so i'll talk to security team folks
[01:30] <JLaverne> maco, thank you, ill try that after i finish helping on here
[01:30] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: ok
[01:30] <maco> JLaverne: if you didnt have that package installed, then the vmlinuz line wont matter
[01:30] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, now type "sudo make install" without the quotes
[01:30] <JLaverne> maco, ok. so installing it should fix it?
[01:31] <victorh> maco: i didn't know that :D let me try this command on my server
[01:31] <maco> JLaverne: both that package and the instructions to make use of it need to be there.  the line *shouldnt* have changed at random, so having that package not be installed is likely the issue
[01:31] <victorh> maco: how do i check the version in terminal?
[01:31] <Laban> Man.... my machine just hates Nvidias own drivers.
[01:31] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: ok
[01:31] <maco> victorh: lsb_relese -a
[01:31] <maco> victorh: er.... lsb_release -a
[01:31] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, that should be it. does it work now?
[01:31] <joshritger> I need help with user groups, which group does a user have to be in, in order to shut down the machine? I have to log out first then hit shutdown
[01:32] <maco> joshritger: admin, i think
[01:32] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: :1695: error: ‘CHECKSUM_HW’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[01:32] <joshritger> hmm, I thought I was in that one, will check
[01:32] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne plus manu more
[01:32] <gionnico> joshritger: you can just cat /etc/group | grep 'main user'
[01:33] <victorh> maco: Description:	Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS
[01:33] <gionnico> this will tell you what groups belong to the 1st user you created
[01:33] <victorh> maco: Sorry, try again.
[01:33] <victorh> sudo: 1 incorrect password attempt
[01:33] <gionnico> and will give you a hint on what group you want for other users
[01:33] <Tempus_Fugit> ok I need some help implementing some of these ideas on this page for security http://www.itsecurity.com/features/ubuntu-secure-install-resource/
[01:33] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, gahh. what is the model of dlink card you have?
[01:33] <c0nfused> i need help with my boot up of ubuntu i need to keep the cd for it to boot up even tho i have it installed it says Warning cannot boot up because a error in syntax cant cd to imit.d
[01:33] <victorh> maco: it did not work
[01:33] <maco> victorh: sounds like it was a bug in 8.04 two years ago but not anymore then
[01:34] <joshritger> gionnico: the user I am trying to fix is the first/only user, the install was a minimal install from the minimal disk, I started with xfce then added gnome
[01:34] <dclake> I need help I'm running maverick beta and all my windows open maximixed
[01:34] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: DFE-530TX+
[01:34] <joshritger> It didn't have the user settings changer or anything
[01:34] <victorh> maco: yeah, sounds true
[01:34] <JLaverne> maco, thank you. it doesnt really bother me, but if it is that easy to fix it then great lol
[01:34] <joshritger> I got that now, but still can't shut down from inside gnome
[01:34] <gionnico> i have another trouble: I updated 8.04->10.04. i did fresh install but just keep /home partition. well i have a canon eos 350D rebel XT digital reflex camera but gphoto (PTP) doesn't work ANYMORE
[01:35] <Tempus_Fugit> alot of things on their need to be compiled and I would like to learn but havent had to do that yet
[01:35] <gionnico> if i plug the camera i get error and if i unplug it well the camera remains screwed up and ANY COMPUTER can read it using PTP. i have to remove battery..
[01:35] <noisewaterphd> gionnico: don't use gphoto, but did you upgrade it?
[01:35] <gionnico> noisewaterphd: as i said i did fresh install. i'm sure in 2 years gphoto was updated
[01:36] <ssfdre38> how can i un-install vsftpd on a ubuntu server?
[01:36] <gionnico> but i still have the old config files
[01:36] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, i will try to find something compiled for you to install with one click
[01:36] <gionnico> for everything. gnome eog, f-spot gphoto : all my config files
[01:36] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne THX
[01:36] <gionnico> and dont know which could be broken by an updated package
[01:36] <dclake> I also have a problem that in my "tweet box" I cant type anything
[01:36] <maco> Tempus_Fugit: the "permit root login" thing for ssh doesnt really matter on a normal ubuntu install since root has no password... try as much as you want, you cant brute force a non-existent password
[01:36] <noisewaterphd> gionnico: OH, I thought you just updated the OS, I missed the fresh install thing
[01:36] <gionnico> config files should auto-update and new version should cope with old version config files
[01:37] <gionnico> fresh install but i kept /home
[01:37] <gionnico> it was in a separate partition and told to use that during installation
[01:37] <ssfdre38> how can i un-install vsftpd from ubuntu server
[01:37] <Tempus_Fugit> maco: ok so what about the other issues with a firewall and securing during boot
[01:37] <noisewaterphd> gionnico: install the medibuntu repositories and see if that gets your canon functionality back
[01:38] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/84076-d-link-dfe-530tx-netword-card-doesnt-work.html
[01:38] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, read the last post. that may help you a lot more than i can
[01:38] <noisewaterphd> gionnico, I sort of remember needing a few libraries from medibuntu to get my XTI working in lucid
[01:39] <maco> Tempus_Fugit: for booting i'd say if they have physical access you're screwed anyway. they can boot from a live cd to get root, pull your hard drive, pop the cmos battery to reset the bios password if you use one of those to lock it... there is no security if there's physical access
[01:39] <Tempus_Fugit> maco: cuz there is def something going on with my system that I am trying to figure out for example I cant go to certain sites.....for example facebook times oout everytime i try
[01:39] <noisewaterphd> gionnico: I am just shooting in the dark though without a pastebin of your logs
[01:39] <maco> Tempus_Fugit: i'd use traceroute (mtr -nt facebook.com) to debug that
[01:39] <gionnico> noisewaterphd: theres something weird because the same camera works on fresh install UNR 10.04 !!
[01:40] <maco> Tempus_Fugit: and as to the firewall... by default no services listen on any ports. that means its equivalent to DROP all. if you're running a server, you may want to limit ssh to your usual IP range or something like that though
[01:40] <noisewaterphd> gionnico: ah, yes, then pastebin as verbose of a log as you can get then and we'll track it down
[01:40] <looter> hello all.  I am trying to install eclipse 3.5 which is a newer version not in the repos but I am having some trouble.  I have untarred the archive and I see the eclipse executable but everytime I try to run it from the command prompt I get a message saying eclipse is not installed.  anyone help?
[01:40] <maco> Tempus_Fugit: and now my battery dies
[01:40] <Tempus_Fugit> maco: I am not so much worried about physical access as I am curious if someone has a finger in my system I know it can be done, I am just trying to learn as much about this OS as quickly as possible so that I can at least be defensive in security
[01:41] <gionnico> noisewaterphd: ok i dont have that machine now. i'll be back here then
[01:41] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: THX
[01:42] <tensorpudding> looter: you probably need to install it
[01:42] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, i have to leave to fix a business computer. i hope i was of some help. if not, someone else on here will be able to help you
[01:42] <tensorpudding> looter: it's likely that it requires some sort of configuration to work
[01:42] <Tempus_Fugit> I would say to assume that just because not only Ubuntu as well as Linux in general are more secure than most windows systems that does not make them impervious to attack or intrusion
[01:42] <afeijo> what else can I do to enable the extra space to the create initializable disk app?
[01:43] <gionnico> Tempus_Fugit: i can't trust windows. how can i know there's no backdoor? indeed, i'm pretty sure WGA does IS indeed a backdoor and that there are backdoors since vista and XP SP3
[01:43] <looter> tensorpudding:  the tutorial online I am following just says to create a launcher for it point to that executable....what am I missing?
[01:43] <tensorpudding> looter: well, i'm assuming that you have all the java requirements installed
[01:43] <noisewaterphd> looter: here is what I like to do for eclipse: do not install from repos, causes depenency hell if you need plugins. 1. Download the eclipse that you need 2. Create a folder called Apps, or Applications in your Home Folder. chmod -R 777 Apps/. 3. Unzip eclipse and put the eclipse folder in your Apps dir 4. double click the eclipse icon inside the eclipse folder
[01:43] <looter> tensorpudding: correct
[01:44] <noisewaterphd> looter: also make sure you are running Sun Java, not OpenJDK
[01:44] <looter> tensorpudding: i believe its Sun Java anyway to confirm for sure?
[01:45] <noisewaterphd> looter: from command line: java -version
[01:45] <looter> tensorpudding: java version "1.6.0_20"
[01:45] <looter> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02)
[01:45] <looter> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 16.3-b01, mixed mode)
[01:45] <tensorpudding> the eclipse from the repositories works fine with openjdk
[01:45] <Tempus_Fugit> gionnico: yeah well I love linux specifically Ubuntu and telling everyone I know they should at least try it out......However if I intend on being a courteous tour guide I should at least know what I am talking about.....so I digress back to having to learn a lot one time which I am enjoying tremendously Im actually having to use my brain again
[01:46] <noisewaterphd> looter: ya that is sun
[01:46] <hackel> Does the shitty binary Nvidia driver just have huge memory leaks or does Ubuntu's Xorg have a problem?  After just 3 days uptime my Xorg is using 1.6G resident memory...really pissing me off.
[01:46] <looter> tensorpudding: i am trying to install Android SDK and it recommends 3.4 or greater
[01:46] <noisewaterphd> tensorpudding: many eclipse plugins DO NOT work with openjdk
[01:46] <tensorpudding> So don't use those plugins?
[01:47] <looter> tensorpudding: thx for your help I am gonna go give it a whirl
[01:47] <noisewaterphd> tensorpudding: or if you need them, just use Sun Java until OpenJDK can get its crap together
[01:47] <tensorpudding> I don't see what this has to do with looter's error
[01:47] <gionnico> hackel: do you use compiz?
[01:49] <tensorpudding> Anyway, isn't the version of Eclipse in lucid 3.5?
[01:49] <tensorpudding> That's what I have installed.
[01:49] <noisewaterphd> tensorpudding: nothing, he was asking how to make his DOWNLOADED eclipse distro work properly
[01:49] <looter> tensorpudding: same thing.  I am not getting anything when I click on it from nautilus and am getting the same message when I run from command line.  Might I have to make the eclipse file executable somehow?
[01:50] <noisewaterphd> tensorpudding: the eclipse from the repos works fine, and works fine on openJDK
[01:50] <tensorpudding> looter: it should be executable already
[01:50] <hackel> gionnico, yes, but I don't remember it ever being this bad before...
[01:50] <looter> tensorpudding: thats what I was thinking but it is behaving like it isn't.  I am really close here has to be something really minor I am missing
[01:50] <victorh> Hi, I was thinking in compile linux kernel to enable just the modules I use. How can I surely know which modules I'm using? Using "lsmod" command is enough?
[01:50] <tensorpudding> looter: I can tell you that I have the Android SDK working fine on the Eclipse from the repos, which is 3.5.2
[01:51] <Tempus_Fugit> is anyone running 10.10
[01:51] <looter> hmm
[01:51] <tensorpudding> !ubuntu+1 | Tempus_Fugit
[01:51] <looter> tensorpudding: well shit then
[01:51] <gionnico> hackel: yeah no if ram size increases when you do nothing or after you close something there's a leak. i can't help further
[01:51] <Tempus_Fugit> I got a partial update like 4 days ago and it never finished
[01:51] <gionnico> bye
[01:51] <afeijo> how can I create an usb bootable disk?
[01:51] <twymer> afeijo: unetbootin
[01:51] <tensorpudding> afeijo: unetbootin is one way
[01:52] <noisewaterphd> looter, tensorpudding, I'm not running eclipse from repos, but can also confirm that Android SDK works fine here as well
[01:52] <Tempus_Fugit> ty ubottu
[01:52] <afeijo> does that unetbootin create extra space in the usb so I can install my apps?
[01:52] <BitEncrypt> permission denied when making a temp folder....why?
[01:52] <BitEncrypt> sudo mkdir /temp
[01:53] <noisewaterphd> BitEncrypt: sudo
[01:53] <noisewaterphd> so nobody has a good recommendation on a terminal session manager for Ubuntu?
[01:54] <tensorpudding> terminal session manager?
[01:54] <tensorpudding> like tmux?
[01:54] <tensorpudding> or do you mean something else
[01:55] <MrPPS> noisewaterphd: i like byobu/screen myself
[01:55] <noisewaterphd> tensorpudding: ya, like tmux, but I just don't like it much
[01:55] <SubCool> if i use gparted to resize a partition, will it format it or just resize it and move the data?
[01:55] <MrPPS> noisewaterphd: try byobu/screen then
[01:55] <looter> noisewaterphd: can you verify what version of eclipse you are in fact running?
[01:55] <MrPPS> SubCool: generally, just resize and move
[01:56] <noisewaterphd> MrPPS: I was just about to start playing with screen/byobu
[01:56] <MrPPS> though backup first
[01:56] <SubCool> awesome, do i dont have to like defrag or something to make sure it is ok..
[01:56] <MrPPS> noisewaterphd: i use it on all my systems, and find it much nicer and more flexible than the others
[01:56] <SubCool> ya, its backed up- just takes 4 hours to backup.. so just making sure
[01:56] <MrPPS> SubCool: i've never needed to defrag it before resizing
[01:56] <MrPPS> though resizing sometimes can take a long time
[01:56] <MrPPS> to be prepared to wait
[01:56] <noisewaterphd> MrPPS: true transparancy?
[01:56] <possomcrast> UBUNTU IS SO BEAUTIFUL
[01:56] <afeijo> ubuntu came with an app that create usb boot device, but mine isnt enabling the field to pick extra disk space :(
[01:56] <SubCool> Ok thanks.
[01:57] <MrPPS> noisewaterphd: transparency works in the gnome-terminal with compiz, etc.
[01:57] <MrPPS> and in the kde konsole
[01:57] <noisewaterphd> MrPPS: sweet
[01:58] <rweeks> please ignore this message... just having some trouble with my CLI irc client...
[01:59] <smc> I'm trying to setup my keyboard switcher in openbox, does anybody know the code for the us-alternate-deadkeys keyboard? Such as the US is just "us", the spanish is just "es".
[02:00] <bobbytek2> what's the best way to fix fan noises, wd40?
[02:00] <bobbytek2> vegetable oil?
[02:01] <jimlovell777> Can I have two versions of a library (libwxgtk) installed concurrently? A recent update broke a package I need but another package I use requires the newer version of the library.
[02:01] <khelvan> Hello, I'm having problems getting S/PDIF HD audio sent through my NVidia Geforce 240 and out via HDMI in Lucid Lynx. I've been through the community help sound troubleshooting but I still get no sound. Can anyone assist?
[02:01] <makson> how can i set timezone on my VPS so when users connect it will auto adjust to there specific time zone?
[02:01] <Laban> khelvan: Welcome to the club =)
[02:02] <Laban> I resorted to going back to analog audio for now...
[02:02] <noisewaterphd> makson: set your time as GMT
[02:02] <hackel> khelvan, how are you trying to do it?
[02:02] <makson> noisewaterphd: how do i do that? with date command? or do i edit this /usr/share/zoneinfo ?
[02:03] <noisewaterphd> when you set your timezone just choose GMT instead of your timezone, then clients will comvert the GMT to their own zone
[02:03] <rweeks1138> sorry I know this is a little OT but can anybody explain how to register my nick?
[02:03] <Laban> khelvan: But I did get audio through HDMI, but it took a while... As if pulse audio had to adapt itself or something
[02:03] <Jordan_U> !register | rweeks1138
[02:04] <Laban> Continously opening audio files until it played... relly strange.
[02:04] <Aemaeth> is there a way to choose when startup programs will load? say mount my data drive before compiz loads up?
[02:04] <hackel> khelvan, this is how I do it.  I run: "pactl load-module module-alsa-sink device=hw:0,1" (you have to figure out which device is your digital out), then you can freely move streams back and forth between it and other devices.
[02:04] <rweeks1138> thanks
[02:04] <khelvan> hackel - I've tried following all the steps in the alsa sound troubleshooting in the community help section, as well as "Digital Out" in the Alsa wiki
[02:06] <noisewaterphd> khelvan: try medibuntu if you haven't already. it just depends on your hardware
[02:06] <Tempus_Fugit> for those that think I am nuts worried about security might wanna take a look at this http://www.security-database.com/view-all.php?date=All&sev=All&type=Ubuntu
[02:06] <looter> noisewaterphd: can you verify what version of eclipse you are in fact running?
[02:06] <niglop> hi
[02:06] <niglop> there is a video on a page that i want to download, how can i download it
[02:08] <niglop> ??
[02:08] <niglop> 1200 people in the channel and nobody can answer me.. k
[02:08] <Daekdroom> !details | niglop
[02:08] <Daekdroom> What kind of video are you trying to download?
[02:09] <niglop> flash
[02:09] <MrPPS> niglop: assuming you're referring to flash videos, like youtube, search for some firefox plugins
[02:09] <MrPPS> there's thousands of them to do it
[02:09] <niglop> its not youtube tho MrPPS
[02:09] <rottie> I have just loaded ubuntu 10 as duel boot, however the owner want it to default to windows?  it this an easy fix?
[02:09] <Daekdroom> You can also grab them directly from the /tmp/ folder if you manage to find them there.
[02:09] <MrPPS> niglop: same thing applies for many of them
[02:09] <MrPPS> i said like youtube
[02:09] <kpkarl> niglop: try looking in /tmp after the video completly loads
[02:09] <MrPPS> not just youtube ;)
[02:09] <SubCool> how can you tell if your Kubuntu is transfering at USB3 speeds? its not showing me mbit/s
[02:10] <p0rk> well I guess I should try that again.
[02:10] <ratdog>  how can i purge this ppa http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[02:10] <victorh> Hi, I was thinking in recompile linux kernel to enable just the modules I use in order to enhance performance. How can I surely know which modules I'm using? Is "lsmod" command enough?
[02:11] <GoodMuppet> who will be upgrading to 10.10 in october
[02:11] <noisewaterphd> looter: helios, build 20100617-1415
[02:11] <rbastic> aren't there known problems with programs on Windows overwriting the MBR and trashing GRUB or something?
[02:11] <Tempus_Fugit> GoodMuppet: when I know its stable I will upgrade
[02:11] <khelvan> laban, hackel, noisewaterphd - Thank you, I am using the on-board sound on an ASUS P5W PH Deluxe (ALC882 Digital is card 0 device 1), passing through HDMI out of my Nvidia Geforce 240.
[02:11] <rbastic> not trying to flame, just responding to rottie's mention of dual-booting ubuntu
[02:11] <matthewl> Hi. Anyone run into a situation where a drive fails, but is still in fstab and the machine freezes trying to mount the drive still in fstab? Is there a trick to dropping to a single user shell prompt from there?
[02:11] <GoodMuppet> Its not very stable at the min
[02:12] <khelvan> hackel, once I get that working, what would the next step be? I am not familiar with working with audio/video streams.
[02:12] <Tempus_Fugit> rbastic:  I have a dual boot system with vista but I never use vista anymore
[02:12] <Laban> Great... HD video looks better with Nouveau driver than Nvidia's driver...
[02:12] <Laban> Too bad 3D doesn't.
[02:12] <GoodMuppet> how
[02:13] <Tempus_Fugit> As soon as I have an external drive to store all my data gonna re-format/partition my drive and go completely ubuntu
[02:13] <Zelfje> data is overrated ;)
[02:13] <will> Ubuntu LiveUSB -- is there any way to mount the USB drive that the LiveUSB is installed on?
[02:13] <khelvan> rbastic - If you install Windows after Ubuntu it will overwrite the boot system, but you can just run update-grub (with Grub2 at least) and it should set itself up, including the Windows partition.
[02:13] <p0rk> ##security
[02:14] <p0rk> #security
[02:14] <hackel> khelvan, well that would add it as a PulseAudio device, then you can run pavucontrol to switch audio between devices.
[02:14] <Jordan_U> rbastic: Yes, and it's usually part of the software's DRM.
[02:14] <khelvan> rottie - Yes, it is an easy fix. Start here: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBcQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1195275&ei=f8yOTJW9IIy8sAPb_NydCw&usg=AFQjCNHsPsdiLiSfK_ARNS8auvRfO0S4KQ
[02:15] <hackel> khelvan, I guess you have to install the pavucontrol package for that.  Of course, this is assuming that your mixer settings are correct.
[02:15] <Jordan_U> khelvan: update-grub just re-writes /boot/grub/grub.cfg. You need grub-install to actually restore grub after installing windows.
[02:15] <GoodMuppet> anyone here using elegant gnome
[02:15] <khelvan> Jordan_U - ok, thanks....rbastic listen to him, he knows better than I ;)
[02:15] <will> LiveUSB -- is there any way to mount the USB drive that the LiveUSB is installed on?
[02:16] <GoodMuppet> it should automatically mount
[02:16] <rbastic> Nods... I had just read some forum postings that confirmed it
[02:16] <will> i want to use the space not taken up by the live usb install (it's on a 4GB usb drive).
[02:16] <desnaike> GoodMuppet I am hope I can help
[02:18] <rbastic> Well... Now my nvidia drivers are working, compiz-fusion is **flying**, and it's time to reboot to double-check that everything is kosher.
[02:18] <Jordan_U> will: Yes, you can mount it just like any other partition.
[02:18] <will> OK they were right -- it is mounted, but it's mounted on /cdrom, and I can't write to it.
[02:19] <Jordan_U> will: What program did you use to create the Live USB, and are you booted into the Live USB right now?
[02:19] <afeijo> unetbootin aint good
[02:19] <khelvan> hackel - ok thanks, I successfully used pactl to add the device, I guess now my only question is what I should be using for the Profile for HD Audio Controller (Digital Stereo HDMI Out I assume? I can't send 5.1 out?) and Internal Audio (No idea here...)
[02:20] <will> Jordan_U -- I forgot what it's called.  Ran if from inside Ubuntu ("liveusb-create" maybe).  And yes i'm booted in a VM.
[02:21] <Jordan_U> will: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" and "sudo blkid"?
[02:22] <ratdog>  how can i purge this ppa http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[02:22] <ratdog> nm
[02:23] <trojan_spike> waoh,, VMbox's seemless is really impressive
[02:24] <sedulous> trojan_spike: it is
[02:25] <will> Jordan_U:  fdisk -l and blkid   http://pastebin.ca/1940176
[02:25] <ai9371> what is ubuntu desktop edition?
[02:25] <ai9371> why not iubuntu 9.2
[02:25] <ai9371> or ubuntu 10.2
[02:25] <sedulous> trojan_spike: it creates an uncomfortable sense of potential security issues but otherwise it's cool, yes.
[02:26] <xangua> ai9371: ubuntu 10.04, 10 is the year, 04 the month it was released
[02:26] <will> Jordan_U:   I should mention that there is a virtual HD in the VM that has Ubuntu on it, but I am booted from the LiveUSB.
[02:26] <ratdog> how can i close all synaptics with terminal
[02:27] <trojan_spike> i dont see any security issues with it.. none that it would cause or can take advantage of..
[02:27] <sedulous> ai9371: “Ubuntu Desktop Edition” is what many people just call “Ubuntu”
[02:27] <afeijo> I formated my usb drive with 4gb ext4, will bootable usb use the whole space?
[02:28] <ai9371> what about ubuntu for windows
[02:28] <trojan_spike> wubi ai9371
[02:28] <will> Jordan_U: I should mention that there is a virtual HD in the VM that has Ubuntu on it, but I am booted from the LiveUSB.
[02:28] <Jordan_U> will: Try running "sudo mount -o remount,rw /cdrom/"
[02:28] <Tempus_Fugit> ai9371: wubi
[02:28] <ratdog> how can i close all synaptics with terminal
[02:28] <ai9371> yah will wubi run ruby on rails
[02:28] <ai9371> gems
[02:28] <sedulous> trojan_spike: it depends on how well the integration is implemented. it obviously adds more bridges between the host and the guest than a plain VM that just display an image inside a window, without clipboard or mouse pointer sharing. of course that's absolutely not an issue as long as you're not dealing with hazardous, evil guests :)
[02:29] <ratdog> :(
[02:29] <Aemaeth> any way to mount my data drive before compiz and my torrents start up, since both need my data drive?
[02:29] <trojan_spike> :) stayin in control sedulous ..
[02:29] <khelvan> ai9371, "Desktop Edition" just means that it has the Gnome window manager, unlike "Server Edition" where you have no graphical user interface.
[02:29] <Jordan_U> ai9371: Yes, with only a few notable exceptions (like hybernation) anything you can do with a normal Ubuntu install you can also do with a wubi install.
[02:30] <mac9416> ratdog, sudo killall synaptic
[02:30] <will> Jordan_U:  WOO HOO!  Thanks a lot, friend.  :)
[02:30] <mac9416> ratdog, I believe.
[02:30] <ratdog> ty
[02:30] <Jordan_U> will: You're welcome :)
[02:30] <Aemaeth> Jordan_U, ai9371 the harddrive  space is limited in wubi, isn't it?
[02:30] <BlkMonkey> exit
[02:31] <trojan_spike> WUBI cant read your windows folders etc,, read/write is slower too
[02:31] <Jordan_U> trojan_spike: Wubi can read and write to windows' files just fine.
[02:31] <Aemaeth> why is read/write slower?
[02:32] <Aemaeth> Jordan_U, he's right though, you can't see the windows files from the os it's installed in
[02:32] <Aemaeth> unless there is a fix or mount point you can use
[02:32] <Jordan_U> Aemaeth: You choose how large you want wubi.disk to be when you install. It's possible to make it larger after the fact but it's unfortunately much more technical than it should be.
[02:32] <trojan_spike> Jordan_U, last i used it , it couldnt access windows..
[02:32] <Jordan_U> Aemaeth: trojan_spike: The windows partiton is accessable via /host IIRC.
[02:33] <Aemaeth> external harddrive it can read windows fine (ntfs/fat)
[02:33] <Aemaeth> iirc?
[02:33] <trojan_spike> news to me..
[02:33] <Jordan_U> Aemaeth: If I Recall Correctly.
[02:33] <Jordan_U> trojan_spike: It's always been able to. If it couldn't then it wouldn't be able to write to the wubi.disk (which is a file on the Windows partition).
[02:33] <chowder> Hi, I'm running Xubuntu and my headset isn't working. I plug in the mic and headphone plugs but neither work.
[02:34] <Aemaeth> Jordan_U, at any rate, it's different than dual-booting, which by default had a link for the windows partition
[02:34] <trojan_spike> k
[02:34] <chowder> Anyone have any ideas what the cause of this could be?
[02:35] <Aemaeth> chowder, you played with sound prefs?
[02:35] <trojan_spike> chowder, of what?
[02:35] <chowder> trojan_spike: what do you mean of what?
[02:35] <Aemaeth> chowder, sound prefs > output, dropdown menu for headphones
[02:35] <chowder> Aemaeth: I haven't touched the sound preferences
[02:35] <Jordan_U> chowder: Any chance you have more than one sound card? It's more common than you'd expect in desktops.
[02:35] <ai9371> chowder maybe your card went bad
[02:35] <trojan_spike> dont matter ,, didnt see ur prev post
[02:36] <chowder> Jordan_U: I don't
[02:36] <ai9371> I have had sound car go bad
[02:36] <ai9371> mic port
[02:36] <chowder> its a laptop
[02:36] <ai9371> my mic port went bad
[02:36] <chowder> ai9371: its brand new. It worked on arch. My sound card is fine
[02:36] <ai9371> when did it stop working
[02:36] <Aemaeth> chowder, if it's usb then it will also be there
[02:36] <chowder> Aemaeth: its not USB
[02:36] <Aemaeth> did it ever work?
[02:36] <chowder> Aemaeth: yes. It worked fine on archlinux
[02:36] <teegor> Hello hello. I'm on Ubuntu 10.04, trying to associate a program (google voice's plugin) to interact specifically with a USB headset and not play sound over the speakers. I have pavucontrol installed, and it'll let me associate it once, but then when I go to use it again it defaults to the speakers again. Any tips for making it a permanent link?
[02:37] <Aemaeth> why are three people helping, but i can't get a bootup question answered?
[02:37] <Jordan_U> !patience | Aemaeth
[02:37] <chowder> Aemaeth: and its not USB. the headset is just a regular headset
[02:37] <trojan_spike> Aemaeth, ? whats your boot up question?
[02:37] <teegor> (Also, chowder have you tried going in to alsactl on the terminal and making sure everything is turned up?)
[02:37] <soreau> Aemaeth: the 'helpers' here are volunteers and do not know everything.
[02:37] <chowder> teegor: you mean alsamixer?
[02:37] <soreau> Aemaeth: Restate your question and we will try to help
[02:37] <csmith1994> OK guys I have a problem. I am taking a beginner programming course at school and I require the use of processing (processing.org). However, on my netbook running 10.04, when I try to execute a simple program that simply creates a 640*480 and changes the background to red, my computer shuts down and reboots
[02:37] <tizzo> hey, I'm trying to install a tomcat app and the installation instructs me to add some files to 'tomcat_home', does anyone know where apt puts that on ubuntu by default?
[02:37] <soreau> ! ask | Aemaeth
[02:38] <teegor> (that, sorry. :P)
[02:38] <csmith1994> Assistance
[02:38] <Aemaeth> trojan_spike, i have a problem when i add a mount command into startup, i need it to be before other programs
[02:38] <sedulous> Aemaeth: I assume you tried it with /etc/fstab and it somehow failed
[02:38] <Aemaeth> soreau, it's been a while since i asked, calm down
[02:38] <soreau> ! attitude | Aemaeth
[02:38] <Jordan_U> csmith1994: Sounds like a graphics driver issue. What GPU do you have?
[02:38] <hackel> khelvan, I've never even looked at the Profile settings before, to be honest.  Not sure about them.  I've only got stereo on my TV anyway, so never bothered.
[02:38] <Aemaeth> sedulous, not failed, but if torrents come up before drive is mounted, since it references the mount point it creates the folders, and mounts the real harddrive in a new location
[02:38] <justine777w> gnea: hello..you have a great skill at helping people solve their problems. Would you mind helping me with another problem I am having?
[02:39] <chowder> soreau: don't you think you're abusing the bot? Lay off, man.
[02:39] <csmith1994> Jordan_U I don't know. The problem is, it kind of just flashes off and then back to the command line boot screen
[02:39] <hackel> khelvan, When you are playing audio, under "playback", you can click the button to the right of the application name to switch it between the devices.  For me the labels are meaningless (e.g. my HDMI out is labelled "Internal Audio").
[02:39] <sedulous> Aemaeth: i'm not very familiar with ubuntu but /etc/fstab mounts should always happen before any GUI is started
[02:40] <Aemaeth> sedulous, i'll check that then
[02:40] <Jordan_U> csmith1994: What is the output of "lspci | grep VGA" in a terminal? (if the output is more than two lines please use pastebin instead of pasting it directly into the channel).
[02:40] <csmith1994> Jordan_U: I have a Gateway netbook, I don't know if that helps. Are you familiar with processing or Java, because does the x or y coordinate come first in the window, because my screen is 1024*600, and i made it 640*480
[02:41] <teegor> Repeated, I'm on Ubuntu 10.04, trying to associate a program (google voice's plugin) to interact specifically with a USB headset and not play sound over the internal audio / my speakers. I have pavucontrol installed, and it'll let me associate it once, but then when I go to use it again it defaults to the speakers again. Any tips for making the association permanent, i.e. make it the default output for that program, without making ...
[02:41] <teegor> ... the headset default for everything else?
[02:42] <Jordan_U> csmith1994: I'm familiar with java, but this is universal. Resolutions are always widthXhight (note that coordinates can sometimes differ).
[02:42] <khelvan> hackel - I have three devices under Playback - HDMI, Internal Audio, and Internal Audio 5.1. Assuming I don't have to stop and restart audio altogether to test, none of the settings work.
[02:43] <aconrad> hi, I'm trying to make my DELL 30" screen to display at higher resolution than 1280x800 which is the only one proposed. I have an Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series VGA. I played with xrandr to add more resolutions but then my screen goes blank.
[02:43] <Fahid> Hello Guys
[02:43] <Jordan_U> teegor: Try asking in #pulseaudio.
[02:43] <Aemaeth> khelvan, not sure if this helps but i often have to restart sound hardware for new settings
[02:43] <teegor> Thanks, Jordan_U.
[02:43] <Jordan_U> teegor: You're welcome.
[02:43] <Fahid> can anyone help me a little about compiling a driver
[02:43] <aconrad> is there a way to detect what are the resolutions supported by my video card?
[02:43] <trojan_spike> u get sorted Aemaeth ??
[02:43] <Aemaeth> in fact the sound going out is the only consistent problem i have, oh no, that program uses alsa, crash
[02:44] <Aemaeth> yeah i should be fine
[02:44] <hackel> khelvan, No, you don't have to restart the audio.  But you may have a problem with your mixer settings.  Run alsamixer and toggle the mutes of the various spdiff/iec958 options until you find a working combination. :)
[02:44] <justine777w> Can someone please help me with instructions on how to set up my printer? I have read all the forums and tried to set it up myself, but I must be doing something wrong.
[02:45] <csmith1994> Jordan_U: Output is: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Coproration Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[02:45] <hackel> khelvan, that's assuming there isn't some *other* problem, in which case, who knows...  I've been using HDMI out this way on a GeForce 8600M for a couple years though, so hopefully there's a way to make it work.
[02:46] <Fahid> I need some help with compiling of smartcam driver on Ubuntu 10.04
[02:46] <khelvan> hackel - I have everything unmuted - are you suggesting I need to mute some of it?
[02:46] <Aemaeth> my laptop displays webcam upside down, i've learned to live with it
[02:46] <chowder> Fahid: have you ever compiled anything before?
[02:47] <ratdog>  Firefox was just mentioned on the 2cond most popular network commedy sitcom >:)
[02:47] <khelvan> Aemaeth - Have you tried guvcview?
[02:47] <ratdog> >:)
[02:47] <Fahid> no chowder, I am a geek at windows but new to linux, but I followed the instruction from Readme
[02:47] <Aemaeth> khelvan, installing now
[02:48] <Fahid> instructions from readme didn't worked, so I tried googling around and saw some forum posts but nothing helping
[02:48] <chowder> Fahid: did you get an error message?
[02:49] <Fahid> yes, can I start with you in private and discuss in detail as I do it
[02:49] <chowder> Fahid: yes you may
[02:49] <Aemaeth> khelvan, do you know if this will give an output that would work on something like skype?
[02:50] <csmith1994> OK I'll ask again because it's been a while and I don't think anyone can see it anymore. My query is that processing (processing.org) doesn't work on my system. a simple program crashes my system, which simply changes the window size and the background
[02:50] <khelvan> Aemaeth - I am not sure, but you could probably use gstreamer to do that, of course you'd have to write a pretty intensive script
[02:52] <justine777w> anyone knowledgeable of setting up printers not compatible with Ubuntu 9.10, such as the Dell 720 Printer?
[02:52] <Aemaeth> khelvan, webcamstudio is a oddly gui heavy version, which can stream to another webcam output, but it doesn't work with skype :(
[02:52] <khelvan> Aemaeth, see if guvcview can help you, if not you can also try luvcview, which is a non-GUI UVC viewer
[02:53] <Jordan_U> csmith1994: This is somwewhat more a work around than a solution but you might want to run processing within xephyr. Xephyr allows you to start a second X server within a window, so an application will think that it's full screen when it's not and if an application tries to change the resolution it will just change the size of the window.
[02:54] <khelvan> Can anyone tell me how to change an IEC958 channel to "PCM Out" in alsamixer?
[02:54] <hackel> khelvan, Heh, no but on mine there are some toggles and switches,  "S/PDIF Playback Source" which should be set to Digital, for example.  Unfortunately they are all different.
[02:54] <pting> how do i have apt only upgrade php5 related projects if i have maverick builds added to my source.list?
[02:55] <afeijo> damn, I had the wrong iso... netbook not the normal one lol
[02:55] <jimbro> Go To Dell website at http://www.dell.com and find your printer and download the Cups wrapper and lpr driver for your printer
[02:55] <khelvan> hackel - In alsamixer I can't toggle S/PDIF and S/PDIF Default to anything other than Mute. I can't get it to do anything other than sit on [00] or M.
[02:56] <SubCool> im getting ticked- i cant even record simple webcam stuff? it has to crash
[02:56] <SubCool> dumb gf with WINDOWS got her going first
[02:57] <matthewl> Is there a way to drop to a shell to edit fstab during a stuck boot?
[02:57] <hackel> Hmm, I'm not sure then.  It may be a quirk with that graphics/sound card combo.
[02:57] <hackel> khelvan, another weird thing--I sometimes have to cycle my TV through all of the input sources before the audio from my computer will play right.
[02:57] <Aemaeth> khelvan, gstreamer-properties and webcamstudio might work...
[02:59] <justine777w> i keep getting error messages when trying to extract redhat in order to install my printer
[03:00] <thune3> matthewl: i think it depends on where it got stuck. the catch-all recommendation is to boot livecd or other linux and make changes from outside.
[03:01] <virusdesirius> I have a very stupid doubt on ubuntu, could anyone help me?
[03:01] <Tempus_Fugit> Anyone help explain some of this page??? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man8/ufw.8.html#toptoc9
[03:01] <Tempus_Fugit> what is the --dry-run??
[03:01] <hiexpo> justine777w, that ? was confusing when trying to extract redhat   > redhat the distro ?
[03:02] <thune3> Tempus_Fugit: dry run ususally mean to calculate the changes/output and show you without touching existing configuration.
[03:02] <virusdesirius> How can I do this simbol ->   ¬
[03:02] <Tempus_Fugit> thune3:  ok cool ty
[03:02] <mbrigdan> Tempus_Fugit, It actually tells you on that page. It means it will show you the changes
[03:02] <virusdesirius> I used to make it by ctrl+alt+6 on windows
[03:02] <virusdesirius> ubuntu doesnt seem to recognize
[03:02] <justine777w> hiexpo: I have been trying to install my printer for months. I can not do it. I have been trying to follow the directions in the forums and nothing is working. Not sure what redhat means.
[03:02] <mbrigdan> virusdesirius, If you're using gnome, you can enter it with its unicode number
[03:03] <khelvan> hackel - One problem I see is that even though my motherboard is showing an IEC958 device in aplay -l, alsamixer doesn't have an IEC958 device listed. So I must be doing something wrong.
[03:03] <Marine_> Marine is gaming.  !gameinfo for more info.
[03:03] <virusdesirius> how can I tell if I'm using gnome? I installed ubuntu 10.04 yesterday
[03:03] <virusdesirius> Guess I am, there is a "about gnome" app
[03:04] <matthewl> thune3: thanks, this is a test machine I'm trying to figure this out on. I'm mainly a BSD guy, and that drops right to a shell for any fstab problems. Right now, I just see: "/dev/sda1: clean", and the number of blocks a files on the partition. It just sits there forever afterwards trying to mount /dev/sdc1, which doesn't currently exist.
[03:04] <Evan0> how would i install the latest and greatest version of php curl?
[03:04] <mbrigdan> virusdesirius, Unless you installed Kubuntu, you're probably using gnome
[03:04] <virusdesirius> So, what should I do to get an ¬
[03:04] <praxis> puto
[03:04] <praxis> kunta kente
[03:04] <IdleOne> !language | praxis
[03:05] <Malvoro> Hi everybody
[03:05] <mbrigdan> virusdesirius, First, you need to find its unicode ID, which isn't normally to hard, except I can't google for your symbol. Do you know what its called?
[03:05] <chowder> virusdesirius: that's the logical operator for "not
[03:05] <chowder> *"not"
[03:05] <chowder> ¬a = not "a"
[03:06] <strAlan> how can I verify vino-server is running? I don't see it in ps -ae :(
[03:06] <chowder> ¬(a and p) = not "a" or not "p"
[03:06] <mbrigdan> chowder, thanks
[03:06] <virusdesirius> whowa
[03:06] <omnydevi> anyone know how to go about uninstalling a nvidia hardware driver and upon reboot getting absolutely 0 video output? :)
[03:06] <virusdesirius> I've spent 13 years beliving it was "the eye" sign
[03:06] <chowder> mbrigdan: no problem
[03:06] <justine777w> hiexpo: do you understand what i am trying to say?
[03:06] <strAlan> how can I verify vino-server is running? I don't see it in ps -ae :(
[03:07] <chowder> virusdesirius: nope, that's a mathematical symbol used in formal logic and discrete mathematics
[03:07] <hiexpo> justine777w, no i do not sorry
[03:07] <virusdesirius> and how do I get its unicode?
[03:07] <justine777w> hiexpo: do you know how to set up the Dell 720 printer on Ubuntu 9.10?
[03:07] <mbrigdan> virusdesirius, So, what you need to do, is hold Shift+Ctrl then type "u", followed by "00AC" (Without the quotes, and still holding Shift+Ctrl). Then, let go of Shift+Ctrl and it should type the character.
[03:08] <hiexpo> justine777w, no sorry again i do not
[03:08] <justine777w> does anyone know how to set up a dell 720 printer in Ubuntu 9.10?
[03:08] <chowder> justine777w: why not upgrade to 10.04 first?
[03:08] <mbrigdan> virusdesirius, I found its unicode id on http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/search.htm , you can use it to find other characters if you want.
[03:09] <chowder> also, did you check to see that your printer is linux compatible?
[03:09] <aetaric> i asked this in #ubuntu-server, but no one knew if this was possible. I want to boot an Ubuntu cd via PXE, but i don't want to use the netboot iso.
[03:09] <hiexpo> justine777w,  http://www.seanelavelle.com/2008/03/24/installing-a-dell-720-printer-in-ubuntu-linux/
[03:09] <hackel> khelvan, It's not a separate device though.
[03:09] <thune3> matthewl: there should be a way to get the busybox shell to come up, but i can't search it since all the hits are how to NOT get it.
[03:09] <strAlan> how can I verify vino-server is running? I don't see it in ps -ae :(
[03:10] <hackel> khelvan, at least for my HDA Intel...
[03:10] <matthewl> Yeah, this is something that shouldn't be very difficult.
[03:10] <virusdesirius> mbrigdan it didnt worked
[03:10] <aetaric> !repeat | strAlan
[03:10] <khelvan> hackel - I know, but according to the Alsa wiki it should be showing up as a channel for my HDA Intel device in Playback in alsamixer
[03:10] <justine777w> chowder: I am afraid if I upgrade I will lose all my information (documents, music, etc) and I already went through thats once...It was a big hassle and i do not know how to save all the info on the computer and I do not have enough flash drives, etc to save all my info.
[03:11] <Evan0> how would i install the latest and greatest version of php curl?
[03:11] <virusdesirius> When I press 00 it selects everything writen
[03:11] <justine777w> hiexpo: thanks, but I have been using all the forums and keep getting error messages. therefore i need someone who knows how to install the printer to help set by step
[03:11] <chowder> justine777w: I've never lost info to an upgrade. When did you last lose info?
[03:11] <thune3> how can I get the busybox shell to come up, on purpose?
[03:11] <justine777w> chowder: when ubuntu crashed
[03:11] <chowder> justine777w: what release was that?
[03:12] <chowder> thune3: in terminal: busybox
[03:12] <mbrigdan> virusdesirius, Hmm, it works for me: ¬. Try it in a different program. (Sometimes some programs grab the key, and it won't work. I know open office does this)
[03:12] <SubCool> LADIES AND GENTS!!
[03:12] <justine777w> chowder: 9.10 I think. before 10.04 came out.
[03:12] <SubCool> i would like to THANK the Loving OS of UBUNTu for SCREWING UP MY $EX Life....
[03:12] <trojan_spike> justine777w, do a backup of what you need.. the upgrade would be in your best interest.. 10.10 is the latest release..
[03:12] <SubCool> Let me Play a song- 3 clients later, i can play a song.
[03:12] <thune3> chowder: is there a way to get it before init, in the boot sequence?
[03:13] <SubCool> Let me go on Pandora- and just make something work.
[03:13] <mbrigdan> !ot | SubCool
[03:13] <IdleOne> SubCool: drop the caps please
[03:13] <virusdesirius> mbrigdan it worked on gedit
[03:13] <virusdesirius> thank you
[03:13] <virusdesirius> thanks alot for the help
[03:13] <mbrigdan> virusdesirius, Your welcome.
[03:13] <chowder> SubCool: your sex life was screwed up before you used ubuntu, tard
[03:13] <justine777w> trojan_spike: i do not know how to do all that. If i do that will the printer automatically work?
[03:13] <IdleOne> chowder: no need for that
[03:13] <SubCool> Konquror, chrome fialed.. finally i got Firefox to work.
[03:13] <prayii> ¬
[03:13] <SubCool> chowder, haha- quite not.
[03:14] <prayii> mbrigdan: i had to let go of ctrl+shift after typing "u" to get it to work
[03:14] <trojan_spike> its possible.. the printer would need drivers to work.. its just a matter of finding one made for ubuntu.. this is usually done by a developer..
[03:14] <mbrigdan> SubCool, Even though I really shouldn't, you've got me interested. How on earth can an OS screw up you sex life?
[03:14] <ToddEDM> can someone help me here, im looking to get wireless working, i have downloaded the broadcom-sta.deb but it wont install , someone please help me...
[03:14] <SubCool> Every normal thing any normal person would like to do ona  computer when they simply turn it on, and isntall it- i cant do after installing it, setting it up.. and working with most of you to make sure it works,(not blaming you) but this is utterly rediculous.
[03:14] <khelvan> hackel - the more I read, the more I believe that my problem is due to the same reason I can't see an IEC958 channel in alsamixer - all the fixes for this problem seem to revolve around changing the settings of that channel in alsamixer.
[03:15] <hackel> khelvan, Really?  Huh, it doesn't do that for me!
[03:15] <chowder> SubCool: idk if anyone can justify using an OS as a scapegoat for not being able to get laid but that's just me
[03:15] <IdleOne> SubCool: if you feel like ranting start a blog otherwise ask a support question.
[03:15] <justine777w> trojan_spike: it does not matter to me which ubuntu I have really....i just want my printer to work. Ya know?
[03:15] <mbrigdan> prayii, Hey, that makes it work for me in OpenOffice. Thanks!
[03:16] <SubCool> mbrigdan, girl wanted webcam, failed miserable, then she wanted Music, failed miserable, then we just wanted to go onlilne, internet crashed, system stood at a stand still. here she is mad at me, because my great ubuntu is nothing to her getting dressed, geting her laptop, turning it on- turning on music, webcam, and telling me goodnite- maybe tomorrow.
[03:16] <trojan_spike> thing is the ubuntu 9.04/9.10 wouldn't have the support that 10.04/10.10 has.. Can you tell me the made of your printer..
[03:16] <ToddEDM> anyone have a good link to setting up wifi on netbook remix?
[03:17] <justine777w> trojan_spike: Dell 720 Printer
[03:17] <SubCool> chowder, no- i cant get it, but now i have to work for it.
[03:17] <khelvan> hackel - Well I'm stuck. Tried different settings, cycled the input on my receiver, all sorts of things, but still no audio.
[03:17] <SubCool> IdleOne, How come my webcamdoesnt work.
[03:17] <IdleOne> SubCool: I don't know
[03:17] <sirecat> How do I verify that the fglrx driver is working? It suggested I install it, which I did. I don't know what command to use to check it out?
[03:17] <SubCool> IdleOne, when i turn on cheese, camorama or anything, nothing works
[03:18] <justine777w> trojan_spike: I have gone through the forums and have tried to follow the directions and I keep getting error messages.
[03:18] <IdleOne> SubCool: stop directing your questions at me. ask the channel.
[03:18] <trojan_spike> what error message?
[03:19] <dreamy_> why does skype can show my camera image, and other apps dont ? anyone :S ?
[03:19] <hackel> khelvan, yeah, that sucks, wish I could help more.
[03:19] <justine777w> trojan_spike: well it says I have to download the redhat driver for linux, so I do and when I go to extract it through terminal it says that it was not found, doesnt exist.
[03:20] <trojan_spike> did u direct it right?
[03:20] <justine777w> trojan_spike: i do not know what that means
[03:20] <chowder> SubCool: check to see that you have the proper drivers or that your cam has linux support
[03:21] <chowder> oftentimes its a matter of reloading a module with different parameters
[03:21] <BitEncrypt>  8 U.S.C. §1101(a)(21) and 8 U.S.C. §1452. 
[03:21] <trojan_spike> to install it through terminal you have to dir the terminal to it,, then sudo make install.. needs a sudo make file tho.. mmmm,, go to the driver u downloaded for me
[03:21] <BitEncrypt>  8 U.S.C. §1101(a)(21) and 8 U.S.C. §1452. 
[03:22] <aetaric> uh... ok BitEncrypt sup with the US legal Codes?
[03:22] <BitEncrypt> lol
[03:22] <BitEncrypt> non-citizen national status
[03:22] <justine777w> trojan_spike: go to it how? the file? its in my home folder
[03:22] <ToddEDM> is anyone able to help me with settimg up wifi on my Acer netbook, trying to run netbook remix
[03:22] <SubCool> chowder, i already had it fixed..
[03:22] <aetaric> !ot | BitEncrypt
[03:23] <SubCool> other than its VERY slow warm up - it WAS working.
[03:23] <BitEncrypt> peace all
[03:23] <trojan_spike> yea,, if u look through the folder.. look for a 'make' file..
[03:24] <justine777w> trojan_spike: i do not have a make file...it says copying, readme and z600cups-1.0-1.gz.sh
[03:24] <SubCool> chowder, see- now its working again..
[03:24] <trojan_spike> read me.. it will tell you how to install
[03:24] <[Adam|Miner]> I installed ubuntu, then windows 7 on another partition, but windows overwrote grub (so I can't get into ubuntu), how can I still be dual bootable (either with grub or any other bootloader)
[03:25] <justine777w> trojan_spike: okay I will try it
[03:25] <sirecat> ubotu !hd2600
[03:25] <trojan_spike> [Adam|Miner], reinstall grub
[03:25] <[Adam|Miner]> trojan_spike: How?
[03:26] <trojan_spike> are u in windows or ubuntu now?
[03:26] <[Adam|Miner]> I am in windows, my only bootable at the moment
[03:26] <justine777w> trojan_spike: it says: sh: can not open sh z600cups-1.0-1.tar.gz.sh
[03:26] <chowder> [Adam|Miner]: you can have the windows bootloader boot ubuntu if you don't want to use grub
[03:27] <[Adam|Miner]> How would I add it though?
[03:27] <[Adam|Miner]> Windows doesn't recognize any other OS atm
[03:28] <Jordan_U> [Adam|Miner]: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[03:28] <erdnase> Good day. I accidentally removed my... I don't know how to call it. Mixer? Or volume control. How do i get it back
[03:28] <trojan_spike> k google ' easybcd' [Adam|Miner] .. download,, install and run the program.. u will have to set it to boot windows and ubuntu.. < this will fix your problem until u get bk to ubuntu>> then reinstall grub<< then uninstall eaybcd..
[03:28] <Jordan_U> erdnase: Right click the pannel, add to pannel, "Indicator Applet".
[03:29] <trojan_spike> justine777w, send me the link where u got the driver
[03:30] <wasnik_> hi guys i am trying to reinstall ubuntu, but the screen gets stuck on ubuntu promt, ctrl+at+del gives could not open /dev/sda
[03:30] <erdnase> Jordan_U, I can't see any indicator applet. I.. remember doing some crazy apt-get remove stuff yesterday, trying to fix my exaile because it wasn't working.
[03:30] <erdnase> And it turns out, I also removed the mixer/volume control thing.
[03:30] <ToddEDM> ____is anyone able to help me with settimg up wifi on my Acer netbook, trying to run netbook remix, i have the drivers in a folder on the netbook, also i have a deb with ndiswrapper
[03:31] <justine777w> trojan_spike: http://support.lexmark.com/index?page=content&id=DR4360&actp=search&viewlocale=en_US&userlocale=EN_US&segment=DOWNLOAD&productCode=&searchid=1284431446556
[03:31] <Jordan_U> erdnase: The package is "indicator-applet"
[03:31] <[Adam|Miner]> trojan_spike: Alright, one last question, is 10.10 beta using grub legacy or 2?
[03:31] <erdnase> Jordan_U, Thanks. :)
[03:32] <Jordan_U> erdnase: You're welcome :)
[03:32] <trojan_spike> grub legacy at start,, i put grub2 on tho,, then burg.. :)
[03:33] <wasnik_> hi guys I am tryin to reinstall ubuntu, but it gets stuck on ubuntu promt, ctr+alt+del says unable to open /dev/sda
[03:33] <[Adam|Miner]> Thanks, off to test
[03:33] <ToddEDM> why does wifi have to be so difficult with linux? its always been a pain
[03:34] <fr1sco> ToddEDM: does not compute.
[03:34] <aetaric> ToddEDM: it has gotten better
[03:34] <ToddEDM> every netbook distro i have tried (except jolicloud) has not worked
[03:35] <trojan_spike> justine777w, in termin run 'sudo apt-get install devscripts'
[03:35] <wasnik_> hi guys I am tryin to reinstall ubuntu, but it gets stuck on ubuntu promt, ctr+alt+del says unable to open /dev/sda
[03:35] <aetaric> !repeat | wasnik_
[03:35] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: Wireless hardware manufacturers have historically been particularly unwilling to work with the open source community. It's gotten a lot better in recent years though, and very recently the last major hold out, Broadcom, announced the release of completely Free drivers and distributable firmware.
[03:36] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: What chipset does your netbook use?
[03:36] <aetaric> Jordan_U: really? how did i miss that?
[03:36] <ToddEDM> broadcom
[03:37] <justine777w> trojan_spike: it says postfix configuration...please select a mail server
[03:37] <aetaric> ToddEDM: which broadcom chip?
[03:37] <trojan_spike> local
[03:37] <Jordan_U> aetaric: http://lwn.net/Articles/404248/
[03:37] <michael_wow> Hello, having problems w/ my nvidia chip after doing an update.
[03:37] <ToddEDM> not sure exactly what chipset
[03:37] <kuku_> Hi what antivirus should i install for ubuntu?
[03:38] <Jordan_U> !virus | kuku_
[03:38] <ToddEDM> what cmd can i use to find out what broadcom chip i have in here
[03:39] <tensorpudding> ToddEDM: lspci
[03:39] <justine777w> trojan_spike: i cant click on anything and when i hit enter nothing works
[03:39] <tensorpudding> ToddEDM: it will list all the devices connected to the pci bus
[03:39] <ShiryuX> Hi guys
[03:39] <kuku_> Hi ubottu: i read the link, it says 'Linux virus infections are theoretically possible'
[03:39] <ShiryuX> I'm trying to install iDroid on my iPhone
[03:39] <ToddEDM> restarting,,, some reason terminal wont come up
[03:39] <trojan_spike> u have to tab,, scrap it anyway.. it wont go in ere for me
[03:39] <[styx]> ok idk if u guys can help but in google chrome i want to make the window half screen but when i click the bitton to do it nothing happens?
[03:39] <ShiryuX> but first I have to install Bootlace
[03:39] <ToddEDM> wtf is iDroid?
[03:39] <xangua> !ot > ShiryuX
[03:40] <kuku_> it's very interesting ... i was thinking to have antivirus for the ubuntu box
[03:40] <ShiryuX> xangua, iDroid is just a start, I have to run some commands on ubuntu
[03:40] <tensorpudding> ShiryuX: what does this have to do with Ubuntu?
[03:40] <sebsebseb> kuku_: ubottu is a female bot computer program
[03:40] <ShiryuX> and I don't know how to run them
[03:40] <sebsebseb> !gender | kuku_
[03:40] <michael_wow> Having problems with my nvidia driver for X, can anyone help?
[03:40] <hiexpo> omg
[03:41] <maximo> sorry to butt in but you need anitvirus for Ubuntu?
[03:41] <maximo> thanks alot
[03:41] <sebsebseb> kuku_: at this time you don't need anti virus, unless your sharing files with Windows
[03:41] <sebsebseb> maximo: no you don't
[03:41] <hiexpo> !virus
[03:41] <maximo> oh okay
[03:41] <ShiryuX> I connect my iPhone to my computer, and install android in there USING ubuntu.
[03:41] <Nasra> se
[03:41] <FullFlannelJacke> When i see an active virus in the Linux world, then I will say you need AV.  Until then forget about AV software.
[03:41] <tensorpudding> There's not enough malware targetting Linux yet.
[03:41] <ShiryuX> The problem comes when I have to run the ubuntu commands
[03:41] <Nasra> sebsebseb: how are you man?
[03:41] <justine777w> trojan_spike: okay it stopped running and is finished..now what?
[03:41] <ToddEDM> ShiryuX, why not just buy an Android phone?
[03:42] <ShiryuX> Not enough money, and not fun :P
[03:42] <hiexpo> hey sebsebseb
[03:42] <tensorpudding> Of course, using Linux you are still vulnerable to security issues in the software you install, which are dealt with using Ubuntu's fast security updates.
[03:42] <ToddEDM> ShiryuX, lol
[03:42] <kuku_> thanks sebsebseb, i don't share anything with windows, i run the ubuntu using  virtual machine
[03:42] <ShiryuX> Is like running windows because I can't deal with Linux
[03:42] <sebsebseb> kuku_: uhmm I would suggest putting Ubuntu or another distro, onto your computer for real :)
[03:43] <trojan_spike> im trying something else.. u can remove that.. b.t.w,, it's a 720 ??
[03:43] <FullFlannelJacke> ShiryuX: so you cant deal with Linux but want to install it on your iPhone?
[03:43] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: hi
[03:43] <ShiryuX> lol :P
[03:43] <justine777w> Trojan_spike: remove what? and yes 720
[03:43] <trojan_spike> remove devscripts
[03:43] <ShiryuX> sort of
[03:43] <justine777w> trojan_spike: how?
[03:43] <greezmunkey> tensorpudding: you may qualify that by stating the ppa's are not supported (generally) by security updates, and therefore should be thouroghly checked prior to installation.
[03:43] <ToddEDM> ok got my info on the Broadcom chip, its a 4357 (rev 01)
[03:43] <hiexpo> ShiryuX, Is like running windows because I can't deal with Linux / so you prefer windows ?
[03:44] <trojan_spike> sudo apt-get remove devscripts
[03:44] <ShiryuX> I have to run "sudo Tools/x32/loadibec OpeniBoot/iPhone\ 3G/openiboot.img3" I guess loadibec is the command to run?
[03:44] <tensorpudding> greezmunkey: Of course, software outside of Ubuntu's reach isn't covered, the same as with Windows.
[03:44] <justine777w> trojan_spike: okay removing
[03:44] <ToddEDM> ok got my info on the Broadcom chip, its a 4357 (rev 01)
[03:45] <hiexpo> !windows
[03:45] <gerinych> im trying to run a setup file, but it gives me an error saying "Couldn't load 'setup.data/setup.xml'". any way to fix that?
[03:46] <tensorpudding> ToddEDM: 43xx chips can be covered using a proprietary blob driver available through Broadcom.
[03:46] <ShiryuX> hiexpo, don't quote me off-topic
[03:46] <ShiryuX> I'm not having problems with windows.
[03:46] <greezmunkey> I went to ##windows...asked them how to write a script that would turn my coffee pot on at 4:00 a.m. ... They sent me here...:P
[03:47] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: Can you pastebin the output of "lspci -vnn | grep 14e4" ?
[03:47] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U, gimme a sec
[03:48] <ToddEDM> well no i cant actually, i cant get online
[03:48] <tensorpudding> gerinych: what is this for?
[03:48] <dbernar1> I am trying to add a partition using fdisk of type vfat...there is no type vfat in my list of known types. Is fat32 the same? (or rather vfat the driver for fat16 and fat32 drives)
[03:48] <hiexpo> greezmunkey, lol did they give ya the remote bro
[03:48] <gerinych> tensorpudding: its for a game called postal
[03:49] <tensorpudding> gerinych: is there a setup.data directory in the local directory?
[03:49] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: Basically I'm trying to find the pci-id to determine if the b43 driver supports your card, as explained here: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[03:49] <gerinych> tensorpudding: no
[03:49] <gerinych> tensorpudding: its supposed to be in the installer file
[03:49] <tensorpudding> gerinych: what is?
[03:49] <gerinych> tensorpudding: setup.data
[03:49] <tensorpudding> gerinych: it would appear not
[03:50] <tensorpudding> gerinych: you are using it from an install cd?
[03:50] <gerinych> tensorpudding: yea
[03:50] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U it says "Broadcom Corporation Device [14e4:4357]
[03:50] <ToddEDM> "
[03:50] <Jordan_U> dbernar1: Do you understand that fdisk does not actually create a filesystem?
[03:50] <ToddEDM> 14e4 is in Red
[03:51] <tensorpudding> gerinych: is this file an executable script or binary?
[03:51] <justine777w> trojan_spike: i removed the devscrpits
[03:51] <nicnic> I am trying to install Kubuntu 9.10 alternative, however the installer shows options for installing to sdb, how can I change this to 'sda' as that's the drive I would like it on?
[03:51] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: Then you'll need to use the proprietary driver as tensorpudding mentioned. Just a second and I'll get you a guide for doing it without an internet connection (it's easier if you can connect temporarily via ethernet though).
[03:52] <trojan_spike> i'll be with u soon]
[03:52] <gerinych> tensorpudding: probably a script, it
[03:52] <gerinych> tensorpudding: it's a .sh file
[03:52] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U, yeah even my ethernet port isnt workgin too
[03:52] <tensorpudding> gerinych: it might be worthwhile to pastebin the script
[03:52] <gerinych> tensorpudding: i can't open it in gedit and it's 23mb
[03:53] <tensorpudding> gerinych: 23 MB ?!?
[03:53] <trojan_spike> justine777w, 'sudo apt-get install alien'
[03:53] <tensorpudding> gerinych: that probably isn't an sh script
[03:53] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: It's very rare for an ethernet card not to be supported, does your router use DHCP? Does the port work in another OS?
[03:53] <tensorpudding> gerinych: why do you think it is an sh script? Is that what file says?
[03:54] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U, yeah it does, i also tried my laptop on there, it worked, but not the netbook
[03:54] <justine777w> trojan_spike: done installing
[03:54] <gerinych> tensorpudding: well, it's called linux_installer.sh and i've seen files that are one part script and one part archive of some sort
[03:54] <abhijit> Good Morning!
[03:55] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: What happens when you run "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" then "sudo dhclient eth0"?
[03:55] <tensorpudding> gerinych: hmm, it might secretly be a shell archive with a ton of binary data tucked into it
[03:56] <nicnic> anyone know how to change the installation drive when using the alternate cd?
[03:56] <tensorpudding> gerinych: are you running the script from the local directory, by the way?
[03:56] <gerinych> tensorpudding: no, from the cd
[03:56] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U no such device
[03:57] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: What devices are listed by "ifconfig"?
[03:57] <tensorpudding> gerinych: i mean, you're in the directory with the script
[03:57] <tensorpudding> gerinych: that is, you cd'd to /media/cdrom/ and did ./linux_installer.sh
[03:57] <gerinych> tensorpudding: right
[03:58] <tensorpudding> gerinych: it'd be hard to figure out what the issue is without reading the script
[03:58] <tensorpudding> gerinych: is that error the only one?
[03:58] <nicnic> how do I specify the installation drive when using the alternative cd?
[03:58] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U, ummm 'ifconfig'gave me some output, but doesnt look like any actual physical devices
[03:59] <gerinych> tensorpudding: well, it says parser error about "setup.data/setup.xml"
[03:59] <ToddEDM> link encap:local loopback
[03:59] <Jordan_U> gerinych: Can you pastebin the output of "head -n 500 /media/cdrom0/linux_installer.sh" ?
[03:59] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: Anything in the form ethN where N is a number?
[04:00] <lk> so much
[04:00] <nicnic> this channel appears to be +m and i must be lacking voice hehe
[04:00] <gerinych> tensorpudding: http://pastebin.com/Z5vzyjkd
[04:00] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U, nope, no eth*
[04:00] <abhijit> nicnic, no you are not
[04:00] <hiexpo> no eth
[04:00] <larsendt> Hi everybody. I'm having troubles with the rtl8187se wireless card in the Eeepc701sd. It worked fine in jaunty and karmic, but lucid doesn't seem to recognize it. Any suggestions? I'm using the UNR 10.04.
[04:01] <nicnic> abhijit: ahh, good to confirm, thanks
[04:01] <jfer> i would try using the windows driver with ndiswrapper
[04:01] <abhijit> nicnic, till then why dont you just have alook at forum or document for alternate cd?
[04:01] <yonahw> I am trying to install 10.04 on an hp xw6000 which has an adaptec 7902 scsi controller. I can't even get to the installation menu as initramfs fails on mounting /dev/loop0. Anybody have any ideas on how to do this?
[04:01] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: That's a problem I don't think I've ever encountered before :)
[04:01] <hiexpo> rtl8187
[04:01] <nicnic> it doesn't mention anything about changing the target drive as strange as that may sound
[04:02] <nicnic> that is not without creating a custom install cd so far
[04:02] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: Here are instructions for getting your wireless working at least: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43/STA%20-%20No%20Internet%20access
[04:02] <nicnic> which seems like overkill
[04:02] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U , thanks
[04:03] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: well I sorta do, why?
[04:03] <abhijit> nicnic, hmm
[04:03] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: You're welcome.
[04:03] <dbernar1> I am trying to make it do that now with mkfs. But I am running into the problem of not knowing how to use it.
[04:03] <abhijit> !manual | nicnic see this
[04:04] <larsendt> Whoops. I may have found the solutions.
[04:04] <nicnic> thanks, will take a look
[04:04] <larsendt> solution*
[04:04] <tensorpudding> gerinych: try 'grep setup.data linux_installer.sh'
[04:04] <tensorpudding> gerinych: it might be in setup.sh
[04:04] <jfer> i would like to install the latest version of eclipse helios does anyone know if a deb package is available?
[04:04] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: I am told by fdisk that my partition names are /dev/sdb1p1 and /dev/sdb1p1, but thos don't exist in /dev
[04:04] <Jordan_U> dbernar1: You might want to stick with gparted. If not, you'll need to use "sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdXY" (and be *very* carefull that you choose the right device).
[04:04] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: so mkfs complains if I tell it that
[04:05] <gerinych> tensorpudding: "Binary file linux_installer.sh matches"
[04:05] <tensorpudding> jfer: Helios is 3.6 right? Ubuntu only has 3.5
[04:05] <nicnic> abhijit: this is for 10.04 which works fine and picks sda instead of sdb, the issue is with 9.10
[04:05] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: I am being careful, yeah :)
[04:05] <goddard> what a good pic programmer for linux cheap to?
[04:05] <nicnic> just wanted to find out if there was a generic and simple way to specify the drive
[04:05] <jfer> yes that is right
[04:05] <Jordan_U> dbernar1: You've added a partition table to a partition, you probably didn't intend to do that.
[04:05] <nicnic> had to downgrade from 10.04 because insight has been removed
[04:05] <abhijit> nicnic, ok. then look inside ubuntuguide.org and ubuntumanual.org
[04:06] <nicnic> ahh, thanks
[04:06] <jfer> i have the binary archive can i turn this into a deb?
[04:06] <tensorpudding> jfer: there might be a PPA available for it, maybe
[04:06] <kronosphere> my C drive is 1TB, I am doing a Wubi dual boot installation with windows 7, how long should it take for the install of ubuntu to finish?
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> goddard: can you expand on "pic programmer" please. FYI, most Linux software is opensorce and theefore FREE
[04:07] <kronosphere> i am asking because it is taking a long time, not sure if its a problem, or perhaps due to the 1TB hard drive?
[04:07] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: I am partitioning a USB key. Can gparted do that for me?
[04:07] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: depends on how fast your computer is, but i'd guess somewhere around 20-30 minutes
[04:08] <abhijit> jfer, http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/how-to-create-deb-package-ubuntu-debian.html and http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/Linux-For-Devices-Articles/How-to-make-deb-packages/
[04:08] <Jordan_U> dbernar1: Yes, and you've used fdisk incorrectly.
[04:08] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: looks like.
[04:08] <abhijit> brb
[04:08] <tensorpudding> jfer: if you really wanted to package 3.6, you should probably talk with the people who are maintaining the eclipse package
[04:08] <Tschacko> Rock da dancefloor
[04:08] <goddard> ActionParsnip I'm not that familar with it so I was hoping some one could point me to good hardware / software package maybe that makes it easy to learn
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> kronosphere: depends on a whole slew of things, there is no single answer. FWIW wubi is god awful. Win7 can resize its own partitions and allow you to do a true boot so the performance will not be affected by the incredible shortcomings of NTFS
[04:08] <Tschacko> i_is_broke: how
[04:08] <kronosphere> tensorpudding: is it normal for themonitor to go into sleep mode during the installation?
[04:08] <nicnic> anyone know how to specify the target drive when using the alternative cd?
[04:08] <Tschacko> i am a poweruser
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> goddard: learn waht exactly?
[04:08] <Jordan_U> dbernar1: You probably ran "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb1" rather than "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb". But whatever the reason, it's probably best to just stick with gparted.
[04:08] <jfer> do you know the irc channel?
[04:08] <Tschacko> 4
[04:08] <dbernar1> right right that's what I did
[04:09] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: that depends on how your power-saving settings are setup
[04:09] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: ! thanks
[04:09] <abhijit> jfer, irc channel for what?
[04:09] <nicnic> ie it's not listing when selecting manual partitioning
[04:09] <Jordan_U> dbernar1: You're welcome.
[04:09] <jfer> eclipse
[04:09] <tensorpudding> jfer: it's probably not a huge amount of work to adapt the old packaging files to 3.6
[04:09] <Tschacko> floodBot1: 4
[04:09] <abhijit> jfer, #eclipse
[04:09] <jfer> ok thanks
[04:09] <Tschacko> i am superdong
[04:09] <IdleOne> Tschacko: stop that please
[04:09] <tensorpudding> jfer: the maintainers probably have an email, that would be available from packages.ubuntu
[04:09] <yonahw> can anybody help me with installing from busybox. when I try to boot from cd it fails to mount /dev/loop0 and just dumps me into busybox with ash shell
[04:09] <Tschacko> floodBot1:6
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> goddard: I cant  give you pointers on how to learn "it" if you dont tell me what "itI is, can I
[04:10] <Jordan_U> nicnic: Do you use any fakeraid?
[04:10] <kronosphere> ActionParsnip: thank you; so i should just sit back and check it again in 30 minutes, eh? :)
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> kronosphere: i guess. I dont use wubi, its rubbish
[04:10] <tensorpudding> jfer: it's actually possible that 3.6 is already packaged for maverick
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> !01.10.| tensorpudding
[04:10] <goddard> ActionParsnip its cool I guess thanks any way
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> !10.10
[04:10] <nicnic> Jordan_U: no, surprisingly, sda and sdb are both listed in dmesg output, however, the installer only shows sdb
[04:10] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: and the thing is supposed to be unmounted, right?
[04:10] <kronosphere> ActionParsnip: it worked wonders on my laptop that had xp in it ....
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> goddard: the whole flow of that conversation made zero sense, just so you know
[04:11] <Jordan_U> dbernar1: Correct.
[04:11] <dbernar1> Weird, it tells me it can't find /dev/sdb
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> kronosphere: ntfs fragments at the drop of a hat, if yuo use wubi you have a drive image on ntfs so the performance will be affected when the drive fragments. If you use a true install you will use ext4 and performance will never degrade
[04:12] <nicnic> i tried with nodmraid option as well, no cigar
[04:12] <justine777w> trojan_spike: find any useful information?
[04:12] <goddard> ActionParsnip ok thanks
[04:12] <kronosphere> oh, i did not know that
[04:12] <coldboot|home> Does anyone know why Amarok is linked into Nvidia OpenGL drivers? Here's the error: "amarok: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: _nv000132gl".
[04:12] <Jordan_U> nicnic: That usually happens when the installer thinks that the drive has fakeraid metadata that it doesn't understand. Rather than writing to it and possably destroying a RAID array it simply doesn't present it as an option (it should really warn the user that it's doing this but that's beside the point).
[04:12] <tensorpudding> gerinych: it might well be a known problem, have you checked the forums for the game?
[04:13] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: good it worked this time
[04:13] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: can gparted set the bootable flag on my usb key?
[04:13] <dbernar1> well, on one of the partitions anyway
[04:13] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: got it, never minf
[04:13] <nicnic> Jordan_U: i will double check the bios, any way to confirm this from a shell?
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> coldboot|home: is there a bug for it?
[04:14] <nicnic> and thanks Jordan_U at least i have something to look into now.
[04:14] <Jordan_U> nicnic: Probably but I don't personally know how. The work around is to press F6 at the initial boot screen and select the "nodmraid" option.
[04:14] <yonahw> has anyone actually seen my message about not being able to install?
[04:15] <gerinych> tensorpudding: ive tried googling for that specific error, but there are no results that involve the game
[04:15] <coldboot|home> ActionParsnip: Nope.
[04:15] <trojan_spike> yea,, it needs to be transformed to a package ubuntu can read/use.. i.e .deb
[04:15] <Jordan_U> nicnic: Or zero out the beginning of sdb so that there isn't anything that would look like fakeraid metadata on it.
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> coldboot|home: i'd create one then
[04:15] <trojan_spike> easier said than done tho
[04:15] <Jordan_U> s/sdb/sda/
[04:16] <trojan_spike> any1 got an easy way to change .gz.sh to .deb??
[04:16] <justine777w> trojan_spike: please see PM
[04:16] <nicnic> Jordan_U: you are right, this is an old drive and was probably used in a raid config
[04:16] <nicnic> i will have to look into zeroing it out without having to install redmond os
[04:17] <gerinych> tensorpudding: i remember being able to install that game, like, 2 years ago
[04:17] <trojan_spike> aww,, am sure u can sort it justine.. just remember it needs to be a .deb for ubuntu.. ;)
[04:17] <Jordan_U> nicnic: I'm not sure I understand, you have a windows install on sda currently that you want to preserve?
[04:18] <nicnic> yes
[04:18] <nicnic> i was going to use the free space for ubunutu
[04:18] <nicnic> its a tb drive
[04:19] <nicnic> a 1tb i mean
[04:20] <Jordan_U> nicnic: I'd just use the nodmraid option then (if you're sure that the drive isn't actually part of a raid array).
[04:20] <nicnic> tried the nodmraid option with no cigar
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> nicnic: is the windows version win7?
[04:21] <psusi> if you have a drive that you previously used as part of a dmraid array and no longer are, you need to remove the raid signatures from it
[04:21] <psusi> either using the bios utility or with dmraid -E
[04:21] <nicnic> ActionParsnip: yes
[04:21] <Jordan_U> !who | psusi
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> nicnic: if you use the win7 tool you can repartition to make free space
[04:21] <gerinych> anyone know what happens when you enter "_POSIX2_version=199209" in terminal?
[04:21] <psusi> Jordan_U, I guess that would be you and nicnic
[04:22] <nicnic> ActionParsnip: ? i already have free unpartioned space....
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> gerinych: changes the posix code. i'm guessing you are instaklling a .run file
[04:23] <gerinych> actionparsnip: yeah, i tried to
[04:23] <lingm> how do i make thunderbird the default email client such that on the top right mail icon it opens up thunderbird instead of evolution?
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> nicnic: cool, then i'd boot to live cd. If you run:  dmesg | tail    you can observe the boot and see whats going on....
[04:23] <abhijit> lingm, you cant
[04:23] <gerinych> actionparsnip: any way to revert that?
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> !default | lingm
[04:24] <nicnic> live cd has issues of its own, screen goes blank
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> lingm: http://www.kabatology.com/03/27/how-to-change-your-default-applications-mail-client-in-a-gnome-desktop/
[04:24] <nicnic> all this for insight
[04:24] <nicnic> brb
[04:24] <xangua> lingm: maybe this work http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/how-to-add-thunderbird-to-the-ubuntu-messaging-menu/
[04:25] <psusi> nicnic, does sudo dmraid -s say it found any arrays?  if so and you aren't actually using multiple disks in a hardware fake raid, then you need to fix that
[04:25] <yonahw> where can on find assistance with more advanced ubuntu problems?
[04:25] <yonahw> s/on/one
[04:25] <lingm> xangua, aha yes that's what i was looking for
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> psusi: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html  wil help the black screen thing
[04:25] <psusi> ActionParsnip, don't think you meant that for me
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> psusi: I'm at work so if s/he comes back can you relay, thanks :)
[04:26] <wolter> hi, i have a dell xps m1330 running ubuntu 9.10 and it has no wireless connection :( it is running the live session
[04:27] <Loshki> yonahw: there are a number of specialized groups here on freenode. If you tell us what you need help on, we may be able to refer you....
[04:28] <wolter> can somebody help me?
[04:28] <abhijit> !irc | yonahw
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> wolter: if you run:   sudo lswh -C network     you will see the devices, websearch for the product line of the output for the wifi to fnid guides
[04:28] <Zyklon> one quick question, whats the tool used for installing ubuntu on a win machine?
[04:29] <Zyklon> lmware or something right?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> wolter: you may benefit from using a wired connection until you get drivered up. Makes life easier
[04:29] <Zyklon> ActionParsnip: you know that right?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Zyklon: vmware, virtualbox
[04:29] <wolter> yeah but i don't have wires here :S
[04:29] <tjgillies> whats the root ubuntu ami password?
[04:29] <Zyklon> vmware yes that was it
[04:29] <tjgillies> for ec2
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | tjgillies
[04:29] <tjgillies> ActionParsnip: NOTE:You will not be able to connect to this instance unless you already know the password built in to this AMI.
[04:30] <tjgillies> under no key settings
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> tjgillies: whats an AMI?
[04:30] <yonahw> Loshki: thanks for responding, I actually mentioned my problem earlier. I am trying to install to an hp xw6000 with an adaptec 7902 scsi controller. Live cd never reaches install menu instead it loads me into busybox with an error of (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: input/output error Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[04:30] <tjgillies> ActionParsnip: amazon ec2 instance image
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> tjgillies: then i'd contact the provider. Ubuntu doesn't support having a root password, nor is it needed
[04:31] <gerinych> actionparsnip: any way to undo "_POSIX_version=199209"?
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> gerinych: reboot is my suggestion, not sure what it is normally
[04:32] <Zyklon> anyone got the time to checkout a php source?
[04:32] <gerinych> actionparsnip: alright, ill try that
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> Zyklon: i'd ask in #php
[04:33] <Loshki> yonahw: all I know to suggest at this stage is the obvious: check the md5sum to make sure the CD isn't corrupt. Check google to see if the adaptec is supported or known to have problems.
[04:33] <Zyklon> ok
[04:33] <Zyklon> but can't get in there
[04:33] <Unknown> Hello, can anyone help me move a file into /lib/modules? it says access is denied
[04:33] <abhijit> Unknown, use sudo cp
[04:33] <devslash> if i use the tutorial at http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15037/use-an-ubuntu-live-cd-to-securely-wipe-your-pcs-hard-drive/ to use the wipe command does that do a secure wipe ?
[04:33] <abhijit> or sudo mv
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> Unknown: sudo mv file /lib/modules
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> Unknown: or you can use: gksudo nautilus     and use gui
[04:34] <yonahw> Loshki: thanks, been there done that. cd seems to be good, can't really find much on the controller other than people have successfully install the drivers for the controller from the rpm hp provides but I can't get that far
[04:34] <Loshki> devslash: depends on what you mean by "secure". Good enough to sell on ebay, yes. Good enough to hide from the FBI, doubtful...
[04:34] <blockhead> hi
[04:35] <devslash> Loshki: the hard drive in question contains private client info
[04:35] <sinman> how can i format my usb stick back to fat 32 in ubuntu
[04:35] <blockhead> I need help, I'm going to download Windows XP Black Pirate Edition, and, how do I convert it into a ISO?
[04:35] <Blue1> sinman: gparted
[04:35] <sinman> k thanxs
[04:36] <Blue1> blockhead: dd
[04:36] <ratdog> lol
[04:36] <gstarx90> !md5sum
[04:37] <Loshki> yonahw: if they used rpms, they weren't installing ubuntu (which uses debs instead of rpms).  Perhaps a different distro? Or a different release of ubuntu. I personally favor 8.04 for stability/ease of installation...
[04:37] <yonahw> Loshki: they used alien to convert the rpm to a deb
[04:37] <wolter> ActionParsnip, well i installed the ones ubuntu recommended me with the hardware manager, but it says that i have to restart computer and i'm in a live session :S so what command should i run to restart only the necessary stuff? or do I have to reload the kernel?
[04:37] <blockhead> dd?
[04:37] <blockhead> Blue1, dd
[04:38] <blockhead> ?
[04:38] <Blue1> blockhead: do a man dd
[04:38] <blockhead> No idea what you mean?
[04:38] <mattw1> hi all, i had an issue with my ubuntu 10.04 and a partition being erased. now i have access to the ubuntu partition again but the file i need to get to is in my home folder. which is locked. how can i browse that folder and get at that file/s
[04:38] <Blue1> blockhead: nvm
[04:38] <Loshki> devslash: if you are worried about the erase quality, try dban: http://www.dban.org/
[04:38] <Saguaro> haha, goddamn deluge
[04:38] <Saguaro> it was using 2.3gb of RAM
[04:39] <devslash> ok
[04:39] <devslash> whoa
[04:39] <devslash> are you serious
[04:39] <blockhead> Hi. I need help, I'm going to download Windows XP Black Pirate Edition, and, how do I convert it into a ISO?
[04:39] <Saguaro> yep
[04:39] <xangua> !piracy | blockhead
[04:39] <Saguaro> I was wondering why my system was so slow
[04:39] <gstarx90> white pirate edition is better.
[04:39] <Saguaro> wow, was maxing out my CPU too
[04:39] <gstarx90> arrrrrgh
[04:39] <Blue1> Saguaro: windows?
[04:39] <Saguaro> wtf Deluge
[04:39] <yonahw> Loshki: thanks for the help. I will try 8.04 tomorrow when I can get more cd's. only have dvd's left and this machine doesn't have a dvd drive
[04:39] <Saguaro> Blue1, Ubuntu 10.10
[04:39] <devslash> Saguaro: are you talking about dban using 2.3 GB of ram
[04:39] <Saguaro> no, Deluge torrent client
[04:40] <abhijit> !iso | blockhead
[04:40] <Blue1> Saguaro: you should /join ubuntu+1 for 10.10 issues
[04:40] <Loshki> yonahw: that's a good sign that it worked with alien. I would try 8.04 next...
[04:40] <Saguaro> Blue1, I don't think it's an Ubuntu issue at all
[04:40] <mattw1> I need to access an encrypted home folder under the username, matthew i have the password for the user to unlock the home folder but how can i do this?
[04:40] <Saguaro> I was just commenting on it
[04:40] <sinman> well goodnight everyone
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> wolter: you dont have to restart, is it a crappy roadcom 43xx
[04:40] <blockhead> abhijit, right, but there are a bunch of files that need to be converted into one iso, how is that done?
[04:40] <wolter> ActionParsnip, lol, it just started working out of the blue
[04:40] <devslash> Saguaro:  what kinda shitty torrent client uses 2.3 gb of ram
[04:40] <yonahw> Loshki: I thought so too. I will try again tomorrow
[04:41] <abhijit> blockhead, use acetoniso
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> wolter: magic eh, restarts are for windows and kernel upgrades only ;)
[04:41] <Blue1> mattw1: something like this, although YMMV applies:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=9
[04:41] <Saguaro> devslash, it's actually a pretty solid client, it's the first time I've seen anything like this
[04:41] <wolter> ActionParsnip, yeah thats why I asked :D
[04:41] <devslash> well its obviouslu buggy if it uses 2.3gb of ram
[04:41] <Saguaro> memory leak obviously
[04:41] <bobstro> Saguaro:  i've had mine running for days and no problem. any unusual circumstances?
[04:41] <sedulous> Saguaro: are you sure it uses 2.3 GB of resident memory, or 2.3 GB or VIRT (mapped) memory?
[04:42] <Saguaro> it was using 2.3gb of resident memory
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> Saguaro: what is the output of:   free -m   use http://pastie.org   to give the output
[04:42] <mattw1> Blue1, and this gives me access to that folder encrypted
[04:42] <Saguaro> well, I already shut it off and restart it
[04:42] <Saguaro> it's using 54mb now
[04:42] <sedulous> evil. apart from that, i concur, Deluge is a pretty decent client, especially with its new web interface.
[04:42] <devslash> Saguaro:  is that  linux only client ?
[04:42] <Saguaro> devslash, I believe they have Windows support too
[04:42] <Saguaro> and some minimal OSX support
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> sedulous: transmission has a web ui too and can run headless
[04:43] <sedulous> ActionParsnip: i know. i prefer Deluge.
[04:43] <Saguaro> I don't like Transmission's UI
[04:43] <Saguaro> Deluge is more like uTorrent
[04:43] <devslash> i think vuze is good
[04:43] <sedulous> i have tried both
[04:43] <Saguaro> I prefer Deluge's UI
[04:43] <devslash> once you turn off the vuze interface and stick to the older azureus like interface
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> Saguaro: i dont use the gui, only web ui. i gots a torrent / file server :)
[04:44] <maheanuu> IaOra from Tahiti and a cold rainy tahiti today
[04:44] <Saguaro> I prefer Deluge's Web UI over Transmission's too, ActionParsnip :P
[04:44] <sedulous> well actually, I still use a horrible mess of about 20 rtorrent instances besides Deluge :-)
[04:44] <sedulous> with data symlinked back & forth
[04:44] <Saguaro> yeah rtorrent is the way to go for remote servers
[04:44] <mattw1> ok let me re-write my issue. i am on a live USB and cannot get to anything or even boot the old ubuntu install. i need access to the encrypted file folder /home/matthew i have the password for it. what do i do?? thanks in advance
[04:45] <maheanuu> I am having a prob with sound on ubuntu studio 10.04 audio out is very low headphones or speakers
[04:45] <CrazyTux> What SSD would you guys recommend for Ubuntu?
[04:45] <CrazyTux> wanting to get one for my desktop
[04:45] <sedulous> too bad rtorrent _still_ doesn't support IPv6... especially P2P programs should do that.
[04:45] <Loshki> sedulous: I use rtorrent too under vnc. Rtorrent instances are cheap and vnc gives me remote access...
[04:45] <Blue1> hellifino
[04:46] <kneaux> what happened to ipv5
[04:46] <sedulous> Loshki: that seems like a waste of bandwidth. Why VNC and not SSH?
[04:46] <Jordan_U> mattw1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Data%20Manually
[04:46] <mattw1> TY TY TY TY TYA
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> !ot | CrazyTux
[04:47] <Jordan_U> mattw1: You're welcome.
[04:47] <CrazyTux> ActionParsnip: thank you
[04:47] <sedulous> CrazyTux: the Intel X25-M G2 is still a classic. don't let linear throughput rates fool you. IOPS are much more important.
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> Loshki: rtorrent has a web ui, why use a vnc session, makes no sense
[04:47] <duckx0r> Can anyone help me with something probably simple? I just installed ubuntu on my kubuntu box and for some reason I am unable to create any files or folders in my home directory, even as sudo. I get the error "mkdir: cannot create directory `test': Invalid argument".
[04:47] <CrazyTux> sedulous: Yea I am kind of new to this whole SSD thing -- am I to expect to run into any compatibilities issues?
[04:48] <sedulous> CrazyTux: not that I know of, not at all
[04:48] <Jordan_U> CrazyTux: No.
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> duckx0r: boot to root recovery mode. then run: cd /home; chown -R foo:foo ./foo      replace foo with your username
[04:48] <sedulous> CrazyTux: i installed Ubuntu 10.04 on an Intel X25-M just a few weeks ago and it flies, i mean really.. wow :)
[04:48] <Loshki> sedulous: vnc allows rtorrent to keep running even when I'm not viewing it. I use vnc over ssh for secure remote access. Using vnc means it looks the same, local or remote (remote is slower, of course)
[04:48] <duckx0r> ActionParsnip, I have multiple users, so I don't think that's a good idea
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> duckx0r: it only affects foo
[04:49] <duckx0r> ActionParsnip, oh right, i missed that part. However if it were an ownership problem, wouldn't I be able to create a file with sudo?
[04:50] <sedulous> Loshki: you can use GNU Screen for that. it's a terminal multiplexer that allows you to detach and attach. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/GNU_Screen.png - notice the "tabs" at the bottom?
[04:50] <sedulous> multiple shells in one "screen" that can be detached and reattached later as a whole
[04:50] <Loshki> ActionParsnip: I've never used rtorrent's web gui. How do I access it?
[04:50] <sedulous> much more bandwidth friendly than VNC
[04:51] <sedulous> Loshki: rtorrent itself doesn't have a web interface, however it has an API that can be used by 3rd party web interfaces. ruTorrent is a popular one, afaik.
[04:51] <Jordan_U> duckx0r: What happens if you run "touch /home/you/foo"?
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> Loshki: here's one solution: http://www.wtorrent-project.org/trac/
[04:52] <duckx0r> Jordan_U, hmm it works
[04:52] <Jordan_U> duckx0r: What about just "touch foo" ?
[04:52] <duckx0r> Jordan_U, still works
[04:52] <Loshki> sedulous: gnu screen is the same idea, but vnc gives you a full X11 desktop which is overkill for just rtorrent, but I used it for other things too. tightvnc uses less bandwidth, and nomachine's NX is supposed to be very light indeed...
[04:53] <Loshki> ActionParsnip: sedulous: thanks for the references...
[04:53] <Blue1> Loshki: i couldn't get tightvnc to work
[04:53] <sedulous> Loshki: whatever works for you :) i'm using Screen locally too though
[04:53] <Jordan_U> duckx0r: What about "/bin/mkdir test" ?
[04:53] <duckx0r> Jordan_U, I guess it's just not letting me create directories, but I can create files just fine
[04:54] <duckx0r> /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory `test': Invalid argument
[04:54] <s3223> I need a bit of help, am stumped, I need to make a bunch of files to ISO, is there a program for that?
[04:54] <Blue1> s3223: dd
[04:54] <s3223> dd?
[04:54] <tensorpudding> s3223: mkisofs i think
[04:54] <Blue1> s3223: ancora yes do a man dd
[04:54] <mattw1> Error mounting eCryptfs: [-2] No such file or directory
[04:54] <riversky> hey guys
[04:55] <mattw1> i am getting that error when trying to mount encrypted home dir
[04:56] <sedulous> Blue1: i think he wants to create an ISO image from files, not from a cd/dvd
[04:56] <duckx0r> Jordan_U, any ideas?
[04:56] <riversky> test
[04:57] <Loshki> s3223: I'm with tensorpudding. Use mkisofs or genisoimage e.g. mkisofs -J -R -o output.iso <files>
[04:57] <sedulous> s3223: if you prefer graphical tools, try the Brasero burning program. it can create image files.
[04:57] <s3223> From multiple other files Sedated
[04:57] <wasnik_> hi guys i am tryin to reinstall ubuntu and i just get the ubuntu screen and if i press ctrl del then it says cannot open /dev/sda
[04:57] <sedulous> (just a frontend for mkisofs)
[04:57] <s3223> I'll try what tensorpudding and Loshki said
[04:58] <sedulous> Brasero is the same, just a graphical frontend
[04:58] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: what stage of the install are you at? can you be more specific on what you mean by "can't get to the ubuntu screen?"
[04:58] <duckx0r> Jordan_U, I can't create any directories, but I can rename currently existing directories just fine. this makes no sense to me
[04:58] <Loshki> sedulous: I've always found brasero to be buggy. I prefer k3b. I don't recall if it will create isos though...
[04:58] <Blue1> sedulous: yeah mkisofs would do the trick.
[04:59] <s3223> I know how to create isos, but from multiple files to create an image
[04:59] <Jordan_U> duckx0r: I'm guessing that you can also create new directories using cp -r to copy existing directories (if this is really just a really odd issue with mkdir).
[04:59] <s3223> ISo*
[04:59] <abhijit> s3223, use acetoniso
[04:59] <duckx0r> Jordan_U, no, I can't copy, only mv
[04:59] <Jordan_U> duckx0r: What error do you get from cp?
[05:00] <duckx0r> Jordan_U, same one
[05:00] <duckx0r> Invalid argument
[05:00] <Loshki> s3223: just list all the files/directories on the command line with mkisofs. It should build them all into an iso...
[05:01] <s3223> Thanks abhijit Loshki
[05:01] <s3223> abhijit, acetoniso didn't work for me
[05:01] <Jordan_U> duckx0r: Try running "sudo mount tmpfs -t tmpfs /mnt/" then "mkdir /mnt/foo".
[05:01] <s3223> It said it will not turn multiple ones into an ISO
[05:01] <s3223> multiple files.
[05:01] <[styx]> ho wdo i format a sd card in ubuntu? i right click and cant find the option
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> s3223: http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.php?showtopic=16503
[05:02] <[styx]> ??
[05:02] <duckx0r> Jordan_U, works fine. It's only in my /home/$USER folders I can't create directories for some reason
[05:03] <Jordan_U> duckx0r: Do you have a separate /home/ partition?
[05:03] <duckx0r> Jordan_U, yes, I do
 : use:    gksudo gparted
[05:03] <Jordan_U> duckx0r: What filesystem?
 : you can format unmounted partitions there
[05:03] <duckx0r> Jordan_U, UUID=fd200501-e605-4fff-b0e7-ca9b68779380 /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
[05:04] <s3223> Is it possible to make a ZIP out of all the files and than convert that one file to an ISO?
[05:04] <fuzzybunny69y> hey everyone I am trying to use find to give the group execute permissions on all the subdirectories in a certain folder. This is the command I have so far but it doesn't seem to be working: find . -type d -exec "chmod g+x {}" \;
[05:04] <Izinucs> s3223: why would you do that instead of just creating an iso?
[05:04] <Jordan_U> duckx0r: Could you pastebin the output of "dmesg", and of "strace mkdir test" ?
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> s3223: put the files in a folder, then the command in the guide I gave will make an ISO of them
[05:05] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: as soon as i put in my usb disk containg ubuntu and choose to load ubuntu from usb i get stuck at the ubuntu screen
[05:05] <Loshki> s3223: only by unpacking the zip file and then creating an iso. Pretty much the same arguments to create the zip file will make the iso using mkisofs
[05:05] <duckx0r> Jordan_U, hmm I have a lot of "attempt to access beyond end of device" messages
[05:05] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: ubuntu screen with blinking dots is the first and only thing that comes up
[05:06] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: ctrl+alt+del says that cannot open dev/sda
[05:09] <duckx0r> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/HZSHrDuL and http://pastebin.com/ezHkSurq
[05:11] <gsp2009> Hey all.
[05:11] <tukadafoonday> can someone tell me... my computer now when it boots to the default kernel it just sits there with a blinking _
[05:11] <tukadafoonday> The only way i can boot is boot into an earlier kernel that is in the grub menu?
[05:12] <kneaux> is that the question?
[05:12] <kneaux> have you tried?
[05:12] <Jordan_U> duckx0r: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -lu"?
[05:12] <CrazyTux> sedulous: Also one last thing.. thanks for the info so far.. just looking into it more... I want to put this into my Desktop... what "adapter" or converter do I need?
[05:13] <lorenzocabrini> tukadafoonday: you can change the default kernel that grub will load
[05:13] <CrazyTux> sedulous: as far as making it physically fit, and anything misc that I would need to buy so from the time I open the case I can get it installed.
[05:13] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: does it just keep blinking dots forever, or does it freeze up?
[05:13] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:it keeps blinking dots forever
[05:13] <duckx0r> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/yakjuzNc
[05:13] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: try doing ctrl+alt+f1 while the dots are going
[05:13] <wasnik_> ok
[05:13] <tukadafoonday> lorenzocabrini, I know that i can change the default kernel, however i would like the normal kernel to run, not the old one.
[05:14] <lorenzocabrini> tukadafoonday: normally the newest kernel should be loaded by default if you haven't changed the priority
[05:14] <sfsdf343> hmm
[05:14] <sfsdf343> How do I use 'mkisofs
[05:15] <Loshki> sfsdf343: something like mkisofs -J -R -o output.iso <files and/or directories>
[05:15] <tukadafoonday> lorenzocabrini, the newest kernel is loading first, however its not loading, it just hangs one a black screen with a blinking _ in the top left corner. I want to try and troubleshoot why this is happening and how to fix it, though being so new to linux i am not entirely sure how to. Hence why i am here asking.
[05:15] <duckx0r> Jordan_U, Maybe a fsck wouldn't be such a bad idea
[05:16] <Jordan_U> duckx0r: Definitely, and before that make sure that your backups are up to date.
[05:16] <UBuntuMac> Aloha
[05:16] <duckx0r> Jordan_U, good thinking
[05:16] <UBuntuMac> I am here to seek to some help from current macbook pro users
[05:17] <UBuntuMac> I have a mid 2010 Macbook pro
[05:17] <tensorpudding> sfsdf343: look under genisoimage, i think mkisofs is a link to that nowadays
[05:17] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: all i get is unable to enumerate usb port 2
[05:17] <UBuntuMac> I tried ubuntu live cd and boy does it run hot
[05:17] <UBuntuMac> any advice on keeping it cool while running ubuntu?
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> UBuntuMac: keep it slightly raised and off soft surfaces
[05:17] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: you don't get to a login?
[05:18] <UBuntuMac> ActionParsnip: it just inherently runs hot
[05:18] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:no
[05:18] <UBuntuMac> Once i reboot into OS X it shows me a temperature of 70 C
[05:18] <UBuntuMac> while it cools down when running OSx on the same surface
[05:18] <sedulous> CrazyTux: SSDs are usually 2.5" inch drives while desktops have 3.5" hard disk bays. you'd need an adapter (should cost $1 or also comes with some SSDs)
[05:19] <sedulous> CrazyTux: otherwise, nothing. same S-ATA connector as any other drive.
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> UBuntuMac: if you can find out the EXACT model yuo can websearch and find guides
[05:19] <UBuntuMac> Macbook 6, 2
[05:19] <LordHawke> I've got Ubuntu with multiple desktop environments. Can I have separate main menus for each environment?
[05:20] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: where did you see that /dev/sda error?
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> UBuntuMac: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1560235
[05:20] <LordHawke> GNOME, Xfce, and KDE.
[05:20] <CrazyTux> sedulous: any special name for the adapter?
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> UBuntuMac: points to: http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1467062   which has a script for controlling the fan
[05:21] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:when i pressed ctrl+atl+del, later lines and lines of , cannot enumerate usb port2, appeared. Same things happens with cttl alt f1
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> CrazyTux: if you edit the files in /usr/share/applications   you can tell them to only appear in certain DEs
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> CrazyTux: why do you have so many?
[05:22] <UBuntuMac> ActionParsnip: I did try that still runs hella hot
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> UBuntuMac: log a bug (or see if one already exists)
[05:22] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: it sounds like ubuntu is having trouble with your hardware for some reason
[05:22] <UBuntuMac> ActionParsnip: will do
[05:22] <CrazyTux> ActionParsnip: ?
[05:22] <LordHawke> ActionParsnip, were you talking to me and not CrazyTux?
[05:23] <LordHawke> ActionParsnip, If you were, I have only used GNOME. I wanted to try out the others.
[05:24] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:the reason I am reinstalling is because when i booted my previous install i get messags sayin cannot open /dev/root, no such file, when i try mountin /dev/sda it says /etc/fstab does not exist
[05:24] <sfsdf343> man genisoimage and misko is way too much reading
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> LordHawke: good fun  dude. I use LXDE, its slim and fast
[05:24] <sfsdf343> I'm looking for a simple program to bundle files to make 1 ISO File, similar to, IMageBurn with windows
[05:24] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: was there any messages suggesting that filesystems failed to mount?
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> sfsdf343: mkisofs -R -o <name_new.iso> <directory_where_the_files_are>
[05:25] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: yes, when i tried to boot previous installed version, i got messages, coulndt mount /root/dev, no such file or directory
[05:25] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: is this /dev/root or /root/dev?
[05:26] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: are you using LVM2 or some other kind of volume management?
[05:26] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: /root/dev
[05:26] <kronosphere> ActionParsnip: how do i set up a dual boot on win7, using a full install rather than wubi install? I'm thinking of forgetting about the wubi install.
[05:26] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: I did ls and it says dev exists, but when i go to root directory its empty
[05:27] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: /dev/root is a symlink to your root partition
[05:27] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: you installed onto a real hard disk, right?
[05:27] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:yes i did
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> kronosphere: use the win7 disk manager to resize the partition so you have unpartitioned space (make sure backups are suffucuently recent in case of catastrophe). You can then boot to an MD5 tested, CD verified Ubuntu CD and install to the free space
[05:27] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: and ubuntu worked fine, untill yesteday when i tried to boot
[05:28] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: did you do anything before that that might cause problems?
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> kronosphere: as you have win already installed  the dual boot should be handled automagiacally
[05:28] <tlhonmey> ActionParsnip:  the liveCD installer you used for the wubi install should be capable of doing it.  Back up your drive first.
[05:28] <LordHawke> ActionParsnip, how would I do so?
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> tlhonmey: wrong target dude
[05:28] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: like editing config files, installing or removing hardware, shutting down power to the machine without a proper shutdown
[05:29] <tlhonmey> ActionParsnip:  Sorry.  Trying to do too many things at once. :S
[05:29] <kronosphere> how much unpartitioned space is needed?
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> LordHawke: the menu item thing. Very carefully
[05:29] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: I went to bios and set the timing for the boot screen message to 5 sec. Then this problem started. But when I went back to bios and loaded the default company settings the problem still exists
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> kronosphere: at least 6 or 7 gb to be comfortable
[05:29] <duckx0r> Jordan_U, Thanks for the help man. I don't have enough room for a /home dir backup so I'm going to get another hard drive tomorrow, make a backup and hope for the best.
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> kronosphere: will give you enough space to install as well as upgrade the OS without running out of space
[05:29] <Jordan_U> duckx0r: You're welcome.
[05:30] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: it sounds to me that you either broke configuration, or somehow caused filesystem errors which fsck hasn't fixed yet, or your hard drive is corrupted
[05:30] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: does your hard disk appear in the bios?
[05:30] <kronosphere> ActionParsnip: i tried doing the wubi install 3 times.
[05:30] <tlhonmey> So, I just upgraded a machine with an Intel 82852 graphics card to Ubuntu 10.04, and now X will only start in safe mode.  Reconfigure fails.  Any easy way to make the safe graphics settings permanent?
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> LordHawke: if you copy the applications folder out to back it up you can roll back if things go weird
[05:30] <kronosphere> ActionParsnip: did those installation attempts do anything to the hard drive?
[05:30] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: how do i see that
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> kronosphere: possibly wrote a new bootloader, otherwise they just make a few files in the NTFS and  shouldnt interfere with windows' efforts
[05:31] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: there should be a screen that shows the devices that are attached to the ATA and SATA
[05:31] <tensorpudding> it depends on which style of bios you have where it is
[05:32] <will_> tensorpudding: Disk Utility?
[05:32] <abhijit> bye have a good day.
[05:33] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: my bios does not show me anything like that, all there is a command for hard disk test and i tested it today morning and it passed
[05:33] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: what about boot device order? does it show the hard disks?
[05:33] <Heather> Hello. I have an HP PSC 2350. I want to see what the ink level is on it. However, checking the print dialog that should show that has the error 'marker levels are not reported for this printer'
[05:33] <Heather> googling hasn't found anything
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> Heather: try grabbing the latest HPLIP from the HPLIP site, it may help
[05:34] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: It shows notebook hard drive
[05:34] <tensorpudding> okay, so this is a laptop
[05:35] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:yes
[05:36] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: you should try booting again, and when you reach the grub menu where it allows you to choose a kernel to boot from, edit the first option and remove the 'quiet splash' from the line beginning with 'linux'
[05:37] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: what is grub menu
[05:37] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: then boot it, and it should boot without showing the ubuntu screen and with all the diagnostic messages showing on the screen
[05:38] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: looks like http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/image55.png
[05:39] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: How do i get to this screen
[05:39] <sfsdf343> Thanks ActionParsnip
[05:39] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: does it not show up when you boot?
[05:39] <sfsdf343> and tensorpudding thanks
[05:40] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: before it gets to the purple Ubuntu screen, it should appear, or there should be an option like "press escape to enter the boot menu"
[05:40] <imanc> when did #ubuntu start requiring users to register?
[05:40] <glebihan> tensorpudding, wasnik_: if it's grub2, it's shift
[05:40] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:no all i have is the compaq logo and a the names of the keys u press to boot menu etc
[05:41] <glebihan> tensorpudding, wasnik_: and sometimes there's no message about it
[05:41] <tensorpudding> this is 10.04 desktop right?
[05:41] <glebihan> wasnik_: just hold shift while booting
[05:41] <khelvan> Blah, I guess Ubuntu isn't the right O/S for an HTPC after all :P
[05:41] <tensorpudding> this is somewhat silly
[05:41] <kronosphere> tensorpudding: actionparsnip was instructing me to resise partition so i will have 6-7gb unpartitioned space. To clarify, this means to "shrink" the partition by 6-7GB using disk manager? Is that correct?
[05:42] <tukadafoonday>  my ubuntu has a problem with the newest kernel and will not load - it only boots to a flashing _ and then hangs, the only way i can get in is to boot into an older kernel. Could someone help me resolve this?
[05:42] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: yes, you can shrink the partition using gparted
[05:42] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:got it on shift
[05:43] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: actually, try booting into recovery mode, and see if that works
[05:43] <kronosphere> tensorpudding: can i shrink the partition using win7 disk management utility?
[05:43] <qpt`> hi  i need help anyone here
[05:44] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: almost surely not, since you need to shrink the filesystem as well as the partition
[05:44] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: and Windows 7 doesn't have any tools for working with ext4
[05:44] <glebihan> !ask | qpt`
[05:44] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: or wait, are you resizing an windows 7 partition?
[05:44] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: you can resize a partition that is not the one that windows 7 is installed on using windows 7's disk management utility
[05:45] <police> i just installed ubuntu on a fairly old computer. whenever i open the screensaver gui it locks the pc up and display goes haywire.. i have to cold boot it
[05:45] <kronosphere> idk. I was trying to do a wubi install 3 times with no luck. It never seems to have completed. So I am going to do a full install.
[05:45] <tensorpudding> police: what kind of graphics driver are you using?
[05:46] <police> i don't know... i'm a bit of a noob... its not proprietary tho.. i checked that
[05:46] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: 7 GB is really small for a full Ubuntu desktop install
[05:46] <kronosphere> tensorpudding: i think that is what actionparsnip meant for me to do, is resize the partition to allow for 7 gb
[05:46] <mastaofdisasta> my ubuntu machine is connecting to a AP that doesn't have internet
[05:46] <kronosphere> oh? How much space should i partition?
[05:47] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: how much in personal files do you want to keep in Ubuntu?
[05:47] <quiescens> the os by itself is about 3.5gb
[05:47] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: and how much software do you see yourself putting on the system?
[05:47] <quiescens> at default, anyway
[05:48] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: moreover you need space for a swap partition
[05:48] <kronosphere> Probably a lot of files. I have a 1TB hard drive, a new win7 install, and have barely used any of it, but i will probably have a lot of media files soon.
[05:48] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: which should always be at least as much as the amount of ram you have
[05:48] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: I did what you said,  i deleted quiet splash and pressed ctrl-x to boot, but i got the messages back again
[05:49] <kronosphere> 3GB ram
[05:49] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: you'll be able to access the files from the w7 partition just fine
[05:49] <qpt`> **** blackace ON CHANNEL #gentoo SAYS: qpt`: turn it off, until then I'm going to +q you, join #gentoo-ops when you figure it out
[05:49] <maco> qpt`: turn what off?
[05:49] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: did you catch all the error messages?
[05:50] <ihab> if I send mail from terminal using mail how can I see sent messages ?
[05:50] <tukadafoonday> for some reason my kernel is working fine now... not sure what happened, but thanks anyways.
[05:50] <qpt`> **** aditsu ON CHANNEL #gentoo SAYS: weird
[05:50] <tensorpudding> qpt`: please don't paste random things from other channels
[05:51] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: for instance, did you see any failed filesystem mounts? any hard disk error messages? did the /dev/root error come up again?
[05:51] <zcat[1]> Trying to do a bunch of timed screenshots using scrot, but every time it takes one it freezes the screen briefly. Any suggestions of why, or what I can do to get around it?
[05:51] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: there were a whole lot of them, but all of them were shadowed because of repeated showing up of 'couldnt enumerate usb port 2"
[05:51] <blackdoggy> hi everybody  i have problem with rhythmbox and its visualization
[05:51] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:yes i got the couldnt open /root/dev message again
[05:52] <blackdoggy> everythime i  enable visualition rhythmbox stops working... new to ubuntu
[05:52] <TDNet|Linux> :)
[05:52] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: it should be /dev/root, because /root/dev doesn't make any sense
[05:52] <U-b-u-n-t-u> what is the command to see if i am using 32 or 64... not what my cpu can run but what I am running
[05:52] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: /root is the home directory of the administrator, there should not be any system files there
[05:52] <U-b-u-n-t-u> is it uname -r
[05:52] <tensorpudding> U-b-u-n-t-u: uname -r
[05:52] <TDNet|Linux> i am starting to like this ubuntu 10.10 beta
[05:52] <qpt`> **** maco ON CHANNEL #gentoo SAYS: blackace: may i pm? it's about a user in this channel
[05:52] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ok thanks
[05:52] <TDNet|Linux> i have found zero errors
[05:52] <tensorpudding> U-b-u-n-t-u: err, uname -m
[05:52] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:but that is what comes up
[05:52] <glebihan> !ot | qpt`
[05:53] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: that might explain the problem then
[05:53] <U-b-u-n-t-u> tensorpudding,  it returned 2.6.32-24-generic
[05:53] <U-b-u-n-t-u> so the 32 means 32?
[05:53] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:so what do u suggest
[05:53] <zcat[1]> irony; getting =Q'd for complaining about a +q
[05:53] <Loshki> zcat[1]: if scrot won't work, how about some of these? http://tips.webdesign10.com/how-to-take-a-screenshot-on-ubuntu-linux
[05:54] <kaushal> hi
[05:54] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: did you see the /etc/fstab does not exist error message again?
[05:54] <kaushal> I am using gnome-terminal on Ubuntu 10.04 Linux Desktop, I am connected to a remote server, is there a way to duplicate the session ?
[05:54] <maco> zcat[1]: seems to be a bot
[05:54] <ihab> if I send mail from terminal using mail how can I see sent messages ? I mean outbox or something like that
[05:54] <police> how can i tell what video card and driver i have? my pc locks up whenever i open the screensaver gui
[05:54] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: it would seem that the only way to repair the system will probably be booting into a live environment
[05:55] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: /etc/fstab not existin only comes up if i try to use mount command
[05:55] <tensorpudding> police: pastebin the dmesg logs
[05:55] <U-b-u-n-t-u> tensorpudding, uname -m <<< machine??? what my cpu can support but not that I am running?
[05:55] <riversky> anyone know how to use screen?
[05:55] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: what is live environment. My cd drive does not work so i have a problem there
[05:55] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: "use the mount command"? you said that it didn't reach a login screen didn't you?
[05:55] <Loshki> maco: seriously? It was such a good question...
[05:55] <riversky> i'm trying to duck down screen and later on screen -r?
[05:55] <police> how do i access the dmsg logs? i'm a noob
[05:56] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: a live environment meaning that you boot from an OS on a removable medium like USB or CDROM
[05:56] <maco> Loshki: haha no, not saying zcat[1] is one, but that the other person seems like
[05:56] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: you can make bootable USB sticks using unetbootin
[05:56] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: yeah it didnt reach login screen, when i tried to boot, but within the messages i typed mount command
[05:56] <tensorpudding> U-b-u-n-t-u: what do you mean?
[05:56] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: what?
[05:56] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: that doesn't make any sense
[05:56] <Loshki> maco: oops....
[05:56] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: you can't enter commands without logging in
[05:56] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: I have tried installing ubuntu using an usb drive, but i got same problem
[05:56] <riversky> can anyone please help me out?
[05:57] <U-b-u-n-t-u> what is the command to see if i am using 32 or 64... not what my cpu can run but what I am running
[05:57] <U-b-u-n-t-u> that
[05:57] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: you want a live environment, which is different than an install environment.
[05:57] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I know my CPU can support a 64 bit os
[05:57] <kaushal> U-b-u-n-t-u: getconf LONG_BIT
[05:57] <tensorpudding> U-b-u-n-t-u: uname -m, like i said
[05:57] <ZykoticK9> maco, <ot> are you involved with gentoo as well?  just asking due to zcat[1]'s post including your nic and gentoo on the same line?</ot>
[05:57] <tensorpudding> U-b-u-n-t-u: if it says x86_64 it's 64-bit, otherwise it's not
[05:58] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: Once i get these repeating messages that 'cannot enumerate usb port 2", if i type "mount /dev/sda" I get 'no /etc/fstad' file
[05:58] <maco> ZykoticK9: no i joined that channel to ask about qpt
[05:58] <U-b-u-n-t-u> tensorpudding, ok but doesnt -m tell what my cpu can run.... but not necessarily what I am running?
[05:58] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: is there a prompt?
[05:58] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: could u guide me in to how to make a usb live environment
[05:58] <zcat[1]> ?! I mentioned gentoo and/or someone's nick?
[05:58] <tensorpudding> !unetbootin | wasnik_
[05:59] <glebihan> U-b-u-n-t-u: another way in lsb_release -a
[05:59] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: Yes, that is where all the errors appear
[05:59] <tensorpudding> well wait, those aren't helpful necessarily
[05:59] <maco> zcat[1]: no, qpt did
[05:59] <U-b-u-n-t-u> glebihan,  thanks
[05:59] <U-b-u-n-t-u> tensorpudding,  thanks too
[05:59] <maco> zcat[1]: everyone has lost the ability to read ;-)
[05:59] <zcat[1]> ok so import does the same thing as scrot.
[05:59] <kaushal> wasnik_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[05:59] <U-b-u-n-t-u> tensorpudding, and glebihan I just realized I have sysinfo installed on xchat so I can find out by /sysinfo lol
[06:00] <glebihan> U-b-u-n-t-u: works too :)
[06:00] <U-b-u-n-t-u> yeah thanks guys
[06:00] <glebihan> U-b-u-n-t-u: you're welcome
[06:00] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: well, if /etc/fstab does not exist, then you have some significant problems
[06:00] <wasnik_> kaushal:it says i need a live cd, to create a usb live
[06:01] <wasnik_> kaushal: where do i get a live cd from
[06:01] <random_> Does anyone know much about dvd playback on ubuntu?
[06:02] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: you still have your installation usb right?
[06:02] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:yes
[06:02] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I have one more question... is anyone here using gyachi? and if so how is it?
[06:02] <glebihan> !anyone | random_
[06:02] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: there should be an option to "try ubuntu from the cd" when you boot up
[06:02] <U-b-u-n-t-u> maybe I cant ask that here?
[06:03] <zcat[1]> been through the whole page, only scrot and import will do a screenshot without prompting me for filename etc.. and both make the screen freeze briefly, which is what I'm trying to get around
[06:03] <zcat[1]> any idea why they freeze the screen?
[06:03] <Morphene> !seen bodwick
[06:03] <random_> I'd like to use ubuntu as a media center, I know how to get dvd playback enabled. I'm wondering if there is anyway to get it to remember the last place it was on a dvd when i put it in
[06:04] <ZykoticK9> random_, see my note for dvd playback at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/enable-dvd-video-playback to get you started anyway ;)
[06:04] <glebihan> random_: depends on the the player you use, smplayer has this feature
[06:04] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: when i try to install from usb all i get are 4 option, 1. use without installin 2. install ubuntu 3.ceck disk 4. check memory 5. load from hard drive
[06:04] <ZykoticK9> random_, disregard my not if you already have playback
[06:04] <ZykoticK9> s/not/note
[06:04] <Loshki> zcat[1]: I'm guessing because of the huge i/o glut when it does the screen dump...
[06:05] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: is this Ubuntu 10.04? and the first option is what you want
[06:05] <random_> Zykotic. Never hurts to read a full primer
[06:05] <ZykoticK9> random_, i use mythbuntu for my htpc and love it!  i believe it can bookmark, not sure about "last place"
[06:05] <random_> Glebihan thank you for the suggestion
[06:05] <zcat[1]> Loshki, but I can record a video easily enough... perhaps I should figure out how ti use recordmydesktop and just record a really low framerate video...
[06:05] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: yes it is 10,04, and when i use the option, try without installin i get the same error
[06:06] <ZykoticK9> !tab > random_
[06:06] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: what do you mean?
[06:06] <sobczyk> is ubuntu planning to backport the new opensourced broadcom drivers?
[06:07] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: it gives the usb error?
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> sobczyk, good question actually - that might have a place in the new repository for "new" software - perhaps that's only in 10.10? not sure.
[06:07] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:the screen gets stuck on ubuntu and when i press ctrl+alt+del i get the error, couldnt open /dev/sda and 'couldnt enumerate usb on port 2"
[06:07] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: how long did you wait?
[06:08] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: before i didnt wait much, but did it again 2 mins back and am still waitn
[06:08] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: your laptop sounds like a real bear of a machine
[06:08] <glebihan> wasnik_: in order to maybe get more informations, you should try to boot the live cd in recovery mode too
[06:09] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: there is no reason for it to even attempt to open /dev/sda if it's starting a live environment
[06:09] <random_> ZykoticK9: Thank you for the suggestion, i'm off to go try smplayer
[06:09] <glebihan> tensorpudding, wasnik_ : well it tries to mount hard disks, but it shouldn't freeze the computer if it doesn't get to
[06:09] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: it might work if you disable ACPI or something
[06:09] <Loshki> zcat[1]: import doesn't see to freeze my 10.04 system when it runs, maybe it's a hardware difference. I can watch video while I run import
[06:10] <needhelp1> for some reason my cpu usage is going crazy, at 99 percent and im just using ftp.
[06:10] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: what model of laptop is this?
[06:10] <ZykoticK9> sobczyk, good for broadcom!  i wish more hardware manufactures would follow that lead.  smplayer is just a front end for mplayer - don't know if mplayer has dvd resume, and i use mplayer a lot ;)
[06:10] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:it is a compaq presario
[06:10] <glebihan> needhelp1: use "top" to see which process is using the resource
[06:10] <zcat[1]> Loshki, perhaps it's compiz?
[06:11] <needhelp1> Glebelg, top ?
[06:11] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: which model number is it?
[06:11] <glebihan> needhelp1: yes, type "top" in a terminal
[06:11] <zcat[1]> Loshki, you're using compiz?
[06:11] <Loshki> zcat[1]: sorry, I don't know enough about compiz to comment. I don't run a desktop as such, just fvwm...
[06:11] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:f755us
[06:12] <ZykoticK9> needhelp1, using "top" and "ps aux" are really handy for identifying processes - which you can then kill.  glebihan
[06:13] <needhelp1> nice, thanks Glebelg  and ZykoticK9  ...
[06:13] <needhelp1> one sec
[06:13] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: you might try disabling USB in the BIOS
[06:14] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: I dont have any abling or disabling options in bios
[06:14] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: are you sure? you looked everywhere?
[06:14] <needhelp1> so far it looks like plugin-container is using a large amount
[06:14] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:yes
[06:14] <ZykoticK9> wasnik_, tensorpudding i supported compaq for 4+ years, they're bios's are typically VERY limited
[06:14] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: if not, maybe try doing what you did before with 'quiet splash' and replace it with 'noacpi'
[06:15] <luci_39> Hey all, I'm looking for a gui to configure grub. Does ubuntu already have one installed?
[06:15] <glebihan> needhelp1: do you have a web browser opened ?
[06:15] <needhelp1> no
[06:15] <needhelp1> i found it
[06:15] <needhelp1> i caught the hidden cpu user
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> luci_39, most "GUI" apps for grub configuration are grub1 only - modern Ubuntu uses grub2.  just FYI
[06:15] <needhelp1> gwiber opens up for seconds and uses 99 percent of my cpu
[06:16] <luci_39> oh ok. So grub2 is installed on the newest ubuntu?
[06:16] <tensorpudding> luci_39: yes
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> needhelp1, i've noticed the gwibber service using 100% CPU for short bursts - and should be considered normal...  but it typically isn't for prolonged periods.
[06:18] <Loshki> ZykoticK9: are there *any* grub2 configuration apps? I'd like to try one. Grub2 is a bear to configure...
[06:18] <Jordan_U> Loshki: What are you trying to configure specifically?
[06:18] <luci_39> Well my windows bootloader is corupted. Grub2 is using it to boot windows. So I have no recov disc for windos. Can I get grub2 to bypass windows bootloader?
[06:18] <glebihan> Loshki: no, there's no GUI application to configure grub, at least none I know and would do good job
[06:19] <Jordan_U> luci_39: It depends on what way it's "corrupted", but most likely no.
[06:19] <MrPPS> is there any way to encrypt the filesystem after the OS has been installed?
[06:19] <Loshki> Jordan_U: actually, I gave up on it. I'm afraid. I still boot using grub1 into 10.04....
[06:19] <shai> Hi :) why is it, when I ssh to my machine, my .bashrc nor my .bash_aliases get sourced? I always need to manually source .bashrc before using it (which he has included .bash_aliases)...
[06:20] <luci_39> Windows bootloader says the file is missing or corrupted
[06:20] <glebihan> luci_39: what file ?
[06:20] <ZykoticK9> Loshki, honest to god, all i know about grub2 i learned from the !grub2 factoid - and one article about getting the development names "lucid" into the grub list ;)
[06:21] <luci_39> ntl.... something I think
[06:21] <Jordan_U> luci_39: Did you delete any partitions recently?
[06:22] <luci_39> yes I did, but this was after the msg. So it's something else
[06:22] <Loshki> ZykoticK9: I looked through the shell scripts when grub2 first came out, and they are IMHO a mess. I much prefer grub1. I also still prefer gdm1, but on 10.04.
[06:23] <luci_39> I tried to use another windows xp disc but it couldn't detect a hardrive
[06:23] <shai> First two lines in .bashrc say:
[06:23] <Jordan_U> Loshki: You don't need to edit the shell scripts in most cases.
[06:23] <shai> # If not running interactively, don't do anything
[06:23] <shai> [ -z "$PS1" ] && return
[06:23] <shai> Maybe that's it?
[06:23] <shai> $ echo $PS1
[06:23] <shai> ${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$
[06:23] <shai> Not sure ...
[06:23] <wasnik_> tensorpudding: I saw the options on this page and i am goin about experimetin https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootParameters
[06:23] <tensorpudding> shai: .bashrc doesn't get loaded by non-interactive shells does it?
[06:24] <ZykoticK9> Loshki, i had a hard time accepting grub2 at first but after understanding /etc/default/grub a little better, and the automatic nature of grub2 (with very high personal success rate) - I changed my mind.  Grub2 is pretty cool.
[06:24] <shai> tensorpudding, what does that mean?
[06:24] <cibao> hi, can anyone assist with a question?
[06:24] <glebihan> !ask | cibao
[06:24] <Jordan_U> Loshki: /etc/default/grub is where configuration changes should be made.
[06:25] <cibao> how do I determine if Im running amd64 image or the intel?
[06:25] <Jordan_U> shai: Can you pastebin your .profile?
[06:25] <tensorpudding> shai: i thought that .bashrc only gets loaded if the shell is interactive
[06:25] <glebihan> shai: what's your issue exactly and where do those lines come from ?
[06:26] <glebihan> cibao: lsb_release -a
[06:26] <shai> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/9bw09udu
[06:27] <shai> Glebelg, My issue is: Hi :) why is it, when I ssh to my machine, my .bashrc nor my .bash_aliases get sourced? I always need to manually source .bashrc before using it (which he has included .bash_aliases)...
[06:27] <ZykoticK9> cibao, i don't see it with lsb_release, use "uname -m"
[06:27] <Loshki> Jordan_U: ZykoticK9: I guess I'm just old-fashioned. I'm told grub2 is an improvement code-wise. I can't comment on that. But I definitely don't find it an improvement from an admin/user perspective...
[06:27] <shai> glebihan, they come from:  "First two lines in .bashrc say:"
[06:27] <xuekan> why there is a bot asked me questions and it shows that i am unregged?
[06:27] <cibao> glebihan that only tells me ubuntu 10.4, I was looking for something like amd64... or x86..
[06:27] <Jordan_U> Loshki: How so specifically?
[06:28] <glebihan> shai: oh sorry didn't see the previous message :)
[06:28] <ZykoticK9> cibao, "uname -m"
[06:28] <tensorpudding> cibao: uname -m
[06:28] <shai> glebihan, no worries mate :)
[06:28] <Loshki> xuekan: because for some groups, you must first register before you can join...
[06:29] <xuekan> oh, I see,thank you.
[06:29] <ZykoticK9> tensorpudding, :p beat ya by a fraction of a second (but i said it a few lines above)
[06:29] <glebihan> shai: is bash your default shell ?
[06:30] <shai> glebihan, is that shown in passwd as /bin/bash?
[06:30] <glebihan> shai: yep
[06:30] <tensorpudding> yes
[06:30] <shai> If yes, then yes.
[06:30] <tensorpudding> if you don't change your shell, that is what it will be
[06:31] <shai> shai:x:1000:1000:Shai,,,,:/home/shai:/bin/bash
[06:32] <Loshki> Jordan_U: I multiboot at lot, 804/104/XP/BSD (or at least I used to, before vmware). I don't recall what I had to do at the time, but it involved editing some of the shell scripts. With respect: they were (are?) a tangled mess and I lost patience with them :-)
[06:32] <Jordan_U> shai: How can you tell that .bashrc isn't being sourced when you login via ssh?
[06:32] <MrPPS> with libcap2-bin, editing the /etc/security/capability.conf, i'm trying to set cap_net_admin to two users
[06:32] <MrPPS> do i do a separate line for each, or both on the same line?
[06:32] <glebihan> shai: apparently, ssh doesn't source .bashrc but .bash_profile
[06:33] <glebihan> shai: so you may want to call .bashrc from .bash_profile
[06:33] <tensorpudding> maybe ssh is configured to start a login shell
[06:33] <tensorpudding> login shells run .bash_profile
[06:33] <shai> Jordan_U, 1. bash_completion won't work until I manually source .bashrc. I have three EXPORTS I have at the end of .bashrc, they don't get exported until I mnaually source .bashrc and .bash_aliases doesn't work, until I manually source .bashrc.
[06:33] <shai> hance, .bashrc is not getting sourced.
[06:34] <cibao> uname -m=x86_64, do that means I'm running -amd64.iso or -i386.iso?
[06:34] <shai> glebihan, what is the source of that answer?
[06:34] <tensorpudding> cibao: 64-bit
[06:34] <shai> tensorpudding, can you tell me what you mean by that?
[06:34] <glebihan> shai: what tensorpudding said, ie ssh opens a login shell + http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/74491-how-automatically-source-bashrc-over-ssh.html
[06:35] <shai> FYI, this is a pretty standard desktop install of Ubuntu 10.04
[06:35] <Jordan_U> Loshki: grub legacy's update-grub in debian didn't automatically detect other OSs at all, and you can manually add entries to /etc/grub.d/40_custom if you don't want to use grub2's automatic probing (that file is included verbatum into the grub.cfg, no scripting knowlage needed).
[06:35] <meatbun> there a good pdf editor?
[06:35] <meatbun> what is the app name?
[06:35] <shai> $ echo $SHELL
[06:35] <shai> /bin/bash
[06:35] <Unknown> How do I get permission to move something into /lib/modules/
[06:35] <jussi> !info pdfedit | meatbun
[06:36] <meatbun> thx jussi
[06:36] <tensorpudding> Unknown: you need to have sudo privs
[06:36] <glebihan> shai: to test it, you can put an "echo" command in the .bash_profile
[06:36] <tensorpudding> Unknown: why do you want to move something there?
[06:36] <cibao> my pc has a amd64x2 turion, and I want to make sure I'm using the right image, when I had the 9x version I had the amd image but it did the auto upgrade I think it installed the intel version and I'm tryin to confirm that?
[06:37] <Loshki> Jordan_U: good point! Maybe I'll take a look at grub2 again...
[06:37] <ZykoticK9> Unknown, the quick answer is "sudo", but it sounds like you're gonna have to learn about ownership and permissions if you're moving files there ;)  good luck man, enjoy Ubuntu.
[06:37] <Unknown> tensorpudding: I want a pairing android application to start without me having to open terminal each time
[06:37] <tensorpudding> cibao: if you upgrade using ubuntu's facilities you cannot switch architectures
[06:37] <haro1> hi , I downloaded ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso , then wrote it to my usb pendrive using unetbootin , and booted from it. The login screen asks me first for "press login" and then for a user and a password, and none that I try seems to work. What should I do ? I'd like to be able to boot the image like a normal live ubuntu , that offers me the option to install.
[06:37] <tensorpudding> Unknown: try using sudo
[06:38] <shai> tensorpudding, worked...
[06:38] <shai> Now it is getting sourced....
[06:38] <shai> who knew...
[06:39] <Unknown> tensorpudding: I put sudo in front of the mv command, and typed in my password, but there was no confirmation and it doesn't appear to be in that folder
[06:39] <ZykoticK9> cibao, is uname returns x86_64 then you're using 64bit - which according to the web site is "not recommended for daily use" see bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/585940
[06:39] <tensorpudding> Unknown: mv doesn't give confirmation
[06:39] <Unknown> tensorpudding: But it is no longer in its original folder, so do I assume it worked?
[06:39] <tensorpudding> Unknown: are you sure that it isn't there?
[06:39] <Jordan_U> haro1: That's a bug (likely X crashing the first auto login). An Ubuntu pendrive made with unetbootin should act exactly like a normal LiveCD. Have you tried booting the USB on another computer? Can you pastebin the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[06:40] <tensorpudding> if it didn't mv the file correctly it would have given a write error
[06:40] <tensorpudding> try ls /lib/modules
[06:40] <tensorpudding> and look for it
[06:40] <tensorpudding> if the filename started with a . then it won't appear unless you use ls -a
[06:41] <Unknown> tensorpudding: it just worked, thank you
[06:41] <haro1> Jordan_U: I'm not able even to open a tty , since the graphics card garbles the screen when I type ctrl alt f1 , and anyway , no login combination works. I'll try in another computer and tell you my result
[06:41] <glebihan> Unknown: by the, I've seen that you were setting up an Android device
[06:42] <glebihan> Unknown: I think the instructions on Android's website are out of date
[06:42] <Jordan_U> haro1: A blank password should work.
[06:42] <haro1> Jordan_U: with user ?
[06:42] <cibao>  tensorpudding: I had ubuntu running for over a year and only god know's what I've done, cause I'm not too sure my self
[06:42] <Jordan_U> haro1: "ubuntu"
[06:42] <glebihan> Unknown: what did you put in the file ?
[06:42] <haro1> Jordan_U: :-)
[06:43] <haro1> Jordan_U: I'll try it
[06:43] <Jordan_U> haro1: Though since auto login failed you will likely be brought back to the log in screen when you try to log in manually as well (again, probably X crashing for some reason).
[06:43] <Unknown> glebihan: it was a .ko file that lets me use my android phone's camera as my webcam
[06:44] <glebihan> Unknown: ok so it's not what I was thinking about
[06:44] <glebihan> Unknown: thought you were setting it up for development
[06:45] <cibao> I think somewhere I did a "force install"
[06:45] <Unknown> glebihan: No, I'm much too novicey for that, but thanks for inquiring... the past couple days, the IRC has not been too helpful, so I"im glad to have multiple people helping me out this time
[06:45] <tensorpudding> cibao: more to the point, amd64 is not restricted to amd processors, intel's processors use it too
[06:46] <wasnik_> tensorpudding:tried all  options but end up with the same error
[06:46] <tensorpudding> wasnik_: there is the possibility that there is a hardware issue
[06:46] <glebihan> wasnik_: did you try my suggestion of running live cd in recovery mode ?
[06:47] <cibao> I used to logon to my company's website before the upgrade now is not letting me
[06:47] <cibao> it just says browser is not compatible
[06:47] <wasnik_> glebihan: How do i run it in recovery mode. i have an usb and on the usb i have option run ubuntu without install. tensorpuddin told me its the live cd version for usb. but no recovery mode there
[06:47] <tensorpudding> cibao: what do you mean? what browser is it?
[06:47] <glebihan> wasnik_: you should have the possibility to edit the options passed to the kernel
[06:48] <glebihan> wasnik_: then remove "quiet splash", and put "single"
[06:48] <cibao> mozilla
[06:48] <tensorpudding> cibao: firefox?
[06:48] <cibao> yes
[06:49] <tensorpudding> cibao: some websites reject browsers based on the identifications tags it sends in HTTP headers, it is probable that your website blocks firefox
[06:49] <wasnik_> glebihan: in using ubuntu without downloading i did remove quiet splash and substituted others for it, will try single and ley u know
[06:49] <tensorpudding> cibao: is firefox included in the supported browsers?
[06:49] <glebihan> wasnik_: ok, you may want to try "acpi=off" too if you haven't already
[06:50] <cibao>  in windows based yes
[06:50] <cibao> when I used to have the 9x version of linux I used to get in fine but does not let me with 10.4
[06:51] <tensorpudding> cibao: if they were matching on browser id strings, then it should work
[06:51] <tensorpudding> cibao: are you using firefox 3.6 or whatever is the newest version?
[06:51] <wasnik_> glebihan:tried single as well as acpi=off, both dont work, it just seems that the booting is tryin to open /dev/sda on the hardisk and since the /etc/fstab file itself does not exist nothing constructive happens
[06:52] <cibao> 3.6.9
[06:52] <tensorpudding> cibao: it might be matching against particular versions or something
[06:52] <glebihan> wasnik_: that's weird cause when booting on live cd, an error with mounting the hard disk shouldn't prevent the computer from booting
[06:53] <wasnik_> glebhian:its also givin an error "cannot enumerate usb port 2"
[06:53] <wasnik_> glebhian: and i am installing from a usb drive
[06:53] <glebihan> wasnik_: that shouldn't be a fatal error either
[06:53] <vu1kan> is there a simple(hopefully one line cli command) way to test if a port is forwarded properly?
[06:54] <tensorpudding> cibao: does the compatibility table list 3.6 as a version supported?
[06:55] <cibao> firefox2,
[06:55] <cibao> I used to get in with version 3.5
[06:57] <tensorpudding> cibao: it lists firefox 2 only?
[06:57] <wasnik_> glebhian: is there a way to just erase the content of the hard drives and start afresh
[06:57] <cibao> ie 6 or later, and firefox 2
[06:57] <glebihan> vu1kan: "iptables -L" should list the rules
[06:58] <glebihan> wasnik_: well, the problem is that you  can't boot on the live cd
[06:58] <tensorpudding> cibao: you might need to do user agent spoofing
[06:58] <glebihan> wasnik_: did you check the md5 checksums of the cd ?
[06:59] <wasnik_> glebhian: what are md5 checksums
[06:59] <Jordan_U> vu1kan: Can you give more detail about what you're trying to accomplish?
[06:59] <Jordan_U> !md5 | wasnik_
[06:59] <glebihan> wasnik_: these are hash values that can be used to test whether a cd contains erroes
[07:00] <tensorpudding> cibao: there is an add-on which does user agent spoofing
[07:00] <vu1kan> Jordan_U: i'm just wanting to make certian i forwarded the port for my bittorent of the 10.04 .iso correctly
[07:00] <cibao> I would have to look into that,
[07:00] <glebihan> vu1kan: you mean on a router or on the computer ?
[07:00] <Jordan_U> vu1kan: Most clients have an option to test if a given port is correctly forwarded.
[07:01] <vu1kan> glebihan: i was under the impression that you only needed to forward through the router
[07:01] <vu1kan> Jordan_U: i also do a bit of mussing with the python simplehttpserver, and i'd like to be able to set an alias to double check that port, as well
[07:01] <sweetpi> vu1kan: if you just want to test if the port is accessible from outside, http://www.grc.com/ use "Shields Up" custom port probe
[07:01] <glebihan> vu1kan: usually yes, but could be that you were doing something more complicated
[07:02] <cibao> thanks for all your help..
[07:03] <glebihan> vu1kan: but in that case forget about the "iptables" command
[07:04] <vu1kan> glebihan: yea, it doesn't seem to suit my purpose, but i've used sheildsup before, it just seems  like a roundabout way of checking something that you should be able to set a custom ping(or something similar) for
[07:06] <vu1kan> someone in ##linux was saying theres a method using telnet to check it, but it's be ages since i've use that proto/program
[07:06] <vu1kan> *it's been
[07:07] <glebihan> vu1kan: yes, that would be way, but you have to try to telnet your computer on ports 6881-6889 from outside your local network
[07:07] <wasnik_> glebhian:  I have ubuntu on a usb, i dont think there is an iso file there
[07:08] <Jordan_U> vu1kan: The problem is that you need to have a server initiate a connection to you coming from the internet. You can test by trying to connect using your internet facing ip address from the machine itself but that can lead to false positives and negatives.
[07:08] <glebihan> wasnik_: isn't there an option to test the content of the usb key in the startup menu ?
[07:09] <glebihan> wasnik_: I know there is for cds but have never tried usb
[07:09] <vu1kan> hmm...off to google i go, portforward.com has a nifty utility for m$(ugh), maybe i can wine it
[07:09] <Jordan_U> wasnik_: If you press any key during the first 5 seconds of boot you should get a menu with an integrity check option.
[07:09] <vu1kan> thanx much, Jordan_U, glebihan, and sweetpi; at least i've got somewhere to start now
[07:10] <Jordan_U> vu1kan: You're welcome.
[07:10] <glebihan> vu1kan: you're welcome
[07:10] <wasnik_> jordan_U: dont understand. ur sayin i put the usb drive in and the boot from it and then in 5 second press any key, but then i just get to the option as to how to install the ubuntu
[07:11] <harovali> Jordan_U: luckily and thanks to your advice , I was able to login using the ubuntu 10.04 image.
[07:12] <Jordan_U> wasnik_: Did you see a menu like this: http://jordanu.dyndns.org/tmp/Screenshot-3.png ?
[07:13] <harovali> I'd like to proceed to a fresh install, over the old ubuntu here, but I'd like apt-get to install all the packages that are already installed in my system. Is there a general advice for that ?
[07:13] <Jordan_U> !clone | harovali
[07:15] <harovali> Jordan_U: thanks
[07:15] <ashiswin> hey, i know this should go to winehq but they aren't responding. hope u guys can help. I was installing a program with wine and it was installing to C:\Program Files but the files have disappeared and the space also has been used
[07:15] <ashiswin> any idea where i can find the files?
[07:16] <Jordan_U> harovali: You're welcome.
[07:16] <Blue1> ashiswin: cd ~/.wine
[07:17] <ashiswin> its not there Blue1
[07:17] <harovali> I'd also like not to modify my /dev/sda8 partition , which currently holds /home . How can I instruct the installer not to touch it , but to use it without doing a mkfs on it ?
[07:18] <Blue1> ashiswin: cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files
[07:18] <ashiswin> its not there
[07:18] <S_p_or_t_o> right click and show hidden files?
[07:18] <glebihan> harovali: just instruct the installer to mount it in /home, and not to format it (you'll have to use custom partition)
[07:18] <DaveWM> hardwalker :  just tell it the mount point is /home,  and make sure its not set to format it
[07:19] <S_p_or_t_o> sorry, view->show hidden files
[07:19] <Blue1> ashiswin: then I don't know....that's where it stores all the files.  try:  wine --version
[07:19] <Jordan_U> harovali: Select manual partitioning, make the mountpoint for /dev/sda8 "/home" and be sure that format is not selected.
[07:19] <harovali> glebihan: DaveWM: Jordan_U: thanks
[07:19] <wasnik_> jordan_U: yes i see the screen
[07:20] <DaveWM> harovali :  it won't format it without informing you first
[07:20] <glebihan> wasnik_: then select "check disk for defects"
[07:20] <Jordan_U> wasnik_: Try the "Check disk for defects" option.
[07:20] <RealOpty> witch is a better machine A) dell P4 HT 3ghz or B) AMD Sempron LE-1250 2.2 GHZ
[07:20] <glebihan> RealOpty: try ##hardware
[07:20] <Blue1> RealOpty: I have the amd, and they have worked fine for me - as always YMMV applies
[07:20] <Jordan_U> glebihan: Great minds think alike, and so do we :)
[07:21] <glebihan> Jordan_U: :)
[07:21] <tensorpudding> Pentium 4 probably performs better.
[07:22] <Blue1> tensorpudding: maybe
[07:22] <Jordan_U> RealOpty: The major factor to think about is probably which has better supported hardware.
[07:22] <glebihan> Jordan_U: maybe we could take rounds here, us being here at the same time may not be that useful if we always give the same advice
[07:22] <harovali> is there any other directory I shoud take care of , other than /home , provided I didn't write user data outside /home ?
[07:22] <Blue1> harovali: I always backup /etc/ as well
[07:23] <Shvonder> people. A samba question: Should we have a domain master browser for each workgroup or thehe should be only one DMB over all network?
[07:23] <harovali> Blue1: sure, I'll backup it, thanks
[07:23] <Blue1> harovali: with /home/ and /etc/ you pretty much have cya'd
[07:24] <harovali> Blue1: thanks again
[07:24] <Blue1> harovali: np
[07:24] <Jordan_U> harovali: Did you actually have /home on a separate partition?
[07:25] <harovali> Blue1: what does cya'd stand for ?
[07:25] <harovali> Jordan_U: absolutely
[07:25] <Blue1> harovali: cover your @$$
[07:25] <wasnik_> ghlebian: am gettin the same errors all over again
[07:25] <harovali> Blue1: that's right , my girlfriend would kick my ass until the end of 2011 if I mess it up
[07:26] <glebihan> wasnik_: did you run the "check disk for defects" ?
[07:26] <Blue1> harovali: they do that :-)
[07:26] <harovali> Blue1: oh yes, sadly
[07:26] <hariom> Hi, what is the benefit of JeOS Server over Ubuntu server default install?
[07:26] <wasnik_> glebhian: yes i did that and i came up with the same errors all  over again
[07:26] <glebihan> wasnik_: while doing it or after ?
[07:26] <Jordan_U> glebihan: The check disk for defects uses the linux kernel to do the check, so it's possible he's running into the same problem as a normal boot.
[07:27] <glebihan> Jordan_U: yes I know, but if he does, it may also suggest that the disk has defects after all
[07:27] <shai> Something happened to my VNC server (I use VNC to do a remote desktop to my Gnome desktop via SSH) .. it won't accept connections anymore. I tried to do a /etc/init.d/gdm restart ; but that didn't help .. it worked just a half hour ago before I did Logout on my desktop ... what can I do to get this working again?
[07:27] <glebihan> Jordan_U: the checking utility does not try to mount disks
[07:28] <shai> I have ssh to my remote machine.. and trying to telnet to localhost at port 5900 fails too ...
[07:28] <Blue1> shai: the way vnc works, once the connection is terminated, vnc terminates, and must be restarted on the host machine.
[07:28] <Four2zero> when i run command: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart i get command not found ?
[07:28] <shai> Blue1, I don't see a VNC service...
[07:29] <Four2zero> why when samba is installed
[07:29] <shai> Blue1, what would its name be?
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Four2zero: use: sudo service smbd restart
[07:29] <shai> /etc/init.d/vboxdrv ?
[07:29] <Shvonder> Four2zero: You should use other command
[07:29] <Blue1> shai: x11vnc is what I am running here.
[07:29] <wasnik_> glebhian: as i am doin it, in order to see what was happenin i deleted quiet splash even while checkin disk
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Four2zero: ubuntu uses upstart now, not init.rd
[07:30] <Shvonder> Four2zero: 'sudo service nmbd restart' and 'sudo service smbd restart'
[07:30] <Four2zero> Shvonder what other command ?
[07:30] <shai> Blue1, I didn't install it by hand AFAIR
[07:30] <shai> Blue1, I just enabled remote desktop via the Gnome UI
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Four2zero: I gave you the exact command you need
[07:30] <Four2zero> oh...wow, where are tutorials...lol
[07:30] <Four2zero> i ran it.
[07:30] <glebihan> wasnik_: then if you have any way to do so, I'd suggest trying to get another image and try with it
[07:30] <hariom> Can anybody mention benefits of Jeos (Minimal Virtual machine install)?
[07:31] <sweetpi> shai: your running vino-server
[07:31] <glebihan> wasnik_: if this does not work, I have no other idea than a hardware issue
[07:31] <Shvonder> Four2zero: Running samba is at least 2 demons: nmbd and smbd
[07:31] <jamesw> hi all
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Four2zero: use the same syntax but with the services you want to manage, it all tabcompletes nicely
[07:31] <shai> sweetpi, probabaly then... how do I get it restarted?
[07:31] <Blue1> shai: okay that might work.  I have mine set up, so that you must login via ssh, start x11vnc on the host, and then use remote desktop viewer -- bit of a pain, but quite secure
[07:31] <Shvonder> Four2zero: Also you could use: sudo smbcontrol all reload-config
[07:31] <Shvonder> command
[07:31] <wasnik_> glebhian: u mean try another version of ubuntu
[07:31] <jamesw> my x crashed or something so i did /etc/init.d/gdm restart, but it gave me a new X session, all my other programs are still running on the old session
[07:31] <rob_p> hariom: It's a minimal install. That means you can add what you need to it and you don't have to spend time trimming the stuff you don't need.
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> jamesw: kill them off or I believe you can foreground them
[07:32] <glebihan> wasnik_: no the same version, but by downloading it and putting it on the usb the again
[07:32] <sweetpi> shai: it should have started when you logged into X
[07:32] <hariom> rob_p: ok
[07:32] <jamesw> anyone know how to foreground programs that "live?" in another (stale) X session?
[07:32] <shai> sweetpi, I had logged out though ... and I need it restarted...
[07:33] <niglop> You see that built in command line on the bottom right hand corner of the mint symbol> http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3700/screenshot32s.png     | Does anybody know how I can get that?
[07:33] <wasnik_> glebhian: but if i am gettin the error while booting from installed version on computer as welll as while loadin from usb, then wouldnt it mean that another image i would have same issue
[07:33] <Blue1> jamesw: restarting x should kill all user programmes.  however any system programmes will continue to run.
[07:33] <rob_p> hariom: I have a jeos vm and it works fine but I had to install quite a few things to make it do what I wanted.  A more typical install would have already included most of the things I ended up having to install.
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> jamesw: alt-tab not work?
[07:33] <jamesw> how do i restart X? i did gdm restart
[07:33] <sweetpi> shai: then you wont want to use vino, youll need x11vnc like Blue1 said. you need to be logged in for vino to work like that
[07:33] <wasnik_> glebhian: also in my bios i ran a test hard disk for defects and my hard disk passed
[07:34] <glebihan> wasnik_: well, you did install on the hard drive from the same usb key as you're trying to run from, right ?
[07:34] <Blue1> jamesw: sudo service gdm restart
[07:34] <wasnik_> glebhian: yes
[07:34] <jamesw> umm
[07:34] <jamesw> do i still do that? now? even after doing init.d gdm restart?
[07:34] <hariom> rob_p: I heard that it is suited well when running on VMWare as it is made to run efficient on it
[07:34] <glebihan> wasnik_: so if there are defects on the usb key, that would explain issues on both way
[07:34] <Four2zero> okay, when i try to access the shared directory, and be prompted for password and username which i did not specify in my smb.config http://www.upload3r.com/serve/130910/1284446022.jpg
[07:34] <Blue1> jamesw: what is that you want to do?
[07:34] <TiK> niglop: no but if you figure it out id like to know tik808@gmail.com
[07:34] <jamesw> my x crashed or something so i did /etc/init.d/gdm restart, but it gave me a new X session, all my other programs are still running on the old session
[07:34] <shai> sweetpi, Blue1: but won't x11vnc start a whole other X session and I won't be able to see my current x:0 session?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> rob_p: could run lubuntu too
[07:34] <mneptok> jamesw: alt + print screen (sysreq) + k
[07:34] <wasnik_> glebhian: but i had installed twice from the usb and the ubuntu installed, just since yestedray  i am havin hese problems
[07:34] <jamesw> the problem is my programs are in the other session
[07:35] <Blue1> shai: remember that when you logout, you terminate vnc. so no it shouldn't
[07:35] <crazyharry> god
[07:35] <crazyharry> so many protections
[07:35] <sweetpi> shai: correct, but you said you logged out so whats the problem?
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> crazyharry: how do you mean?
[07:35] <rob_p> hariom: Yes, it's well suited for running under vmware.
[07:36] <glebihan> wasnik_: in that case, it strongly suggests a hardware issue, but it might still be worth trying (on another usb key then)
[07:36] <glebihan> wasnik_: just in case it's the usb key itself that has a defect
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> wasnik_: you can test ram from livecd. Wait for the stickman to show, press space then select memtest
[07:38] <wasnik_> actionparsnip: what is stickman, how do i get there
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> wasnik_: when you boot the usb you will see it at the bottom of the screen
[07:40] <i_is_broke> sorry i just sat down, wasnik, how much ram do you have?
[07:40] <wasnik_> ok
[07:42] <wasnik_> actionparsnip: i just come to the menu which ask me how to install ubuntu or tryin ubuntu without install
[07:42] <typemore> in ubuntu;s xmms2 how do I repeat my palylist?
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> wasnik_: there is the memtest in that list of options
[07:42] <glebihan> i_is_broke: the amount of ram isn't really the issue there, he is not getting to boot from hard drive nor live usb, getting an error that /dev/sda could not be found
[07:43] <wasnik_> ok
[07:43] <glebihan> i_is_broke: same error when trying to test for defects
[07:43] <glebihan> i_is_broke: so trying a memtest now
[07:44] <mamooth> Hi there
[07:44] <i_is_broke> wouldnt it be easier if he just went into the bios found out what kind of hard drive he had and test it?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> typemore: I believe there is a button on the ui. One repeats one, the other repeats all
[07:44] <i_is_broke> if it even shows up?
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> !hi | mamooth
[07:45] <glebihan> i_is_broke: well the thing is that live usb should not give that kind of error, it should be able to boot even if there was no hard drive
[07:46] <i_is_broke> glebiahan, yup your right, and seeings how i had a memory chip just a week ago give me cpu errors.. i understand..
[07:46] <i_is_broke> sorry.
[07:46] <typemore> ActionParsnip: how do I get the uI? i only see the commandline
[07:46] <glebihan> i_is_broke: no problem, just trying to let you know where we were
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> typemore: ui for what?
[07:46] <typemore> ActionParsnip: xmms2
[07:47] <i_is_broke> sorry been a long day.. makes sense now that i think about it.
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> !xmms
[07:47] <i_is_broke> ActionParsnip, hes said xmms2 i believe.
[07:48] <i_is_broke> !xmms2
[07:48] <glebihan> that gives more informations...
[07:48] <mamooth> I have a question about a backup strategy. We have (at work) about 250 Go of shared data we're working on. But at the moment, we don't have any backup, so ut's very risky. I'd like to propose a backup strategy, and I would have some advices. The first one, is to maintain 4 versions : monthly, weekly, every 3 days and daily. The second option is to use an SCM, and commit changes every days after having rsync the data.
[07:48] <glebihan> thanks ubottu
[07:48] <i_is_broke> well thats stupid...tells you to use it and then gives the same dumb error.lol
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> http://xmms2.org/wiki/Clients typemore
[07:49] <cjjnjust> Hi, I got a question that my Ubuntu have no max_min button .
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> !ot | mamooth
[07:49] <mamooth> Ok, got it
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> cjjnjust: press alt+f2 and run: metacity --replace
[07:51] <cjjnjust> ActionParsnip: I got unable to get x display
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> cjjnjust: do you use an nvidia video chip?
[07:52] <shai> Blue1, I'm trying to install x11vnc per this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45565 ; and it says there, that vncpasswd is installed by default and included in vnc-common .. but I don't such a binary and when trying to install vnc4-common, it won't install (just exists)
[07:52] <cjjnjust> ActionParsnip: yes
[07:53] <shai> Blue1, that guide, is 5 years old .. and still referenced in many places as the way to get it installed....
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> cjjnjust: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=494575
[07:56] <glebihan> shai: it seems that vnc4-common has only been built for 64-bit architectures
[07:57] <glebihan> shai: looking if I can find more infos
[07:57] <shai> glebihan, thanks!!!
[07:59] <glebihan> shai: you should be able to install it from http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13505085/vnc4-common_4.1.1%2Bxorg1.0.2-0ubuntu7_i386.deb
[08:03] <cjjnjust> ActionParsnip: I run  "sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-arg-glx-visuals" but got this 'nvidia-xconfig: unrecognized option: "--add-arg-glx-visuals"'
[08:04] <razass_m> hey guys, does ubuntu 10.04/10 have multi touch screen support?
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> cjjnjust: you need the options addargvisuals or something similar in xorg.conf. sudo nvidia-xconfig ,will generate a skeleton file
[08:05] <yin_yang2k> Hi! I need some advice on how to setup a ubuntu-machine for a single purpose. After booting it should just start the web browser and use a single webbapplication
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> cjjnjust: if you hunt around you will find the options and can add them
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> yin_yang2k: add it in startup apps
[08:05] <s3r3n1t7> yin_yang2k, check out kiosk mode and auto login, that should set you up.
[08:06] <yin_yang2k> kiosk mode sounds right. I already know about autostart. tnx for now! :)
[08:07] <razass_m> anyone know about touchscreen support?
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> yin_yang2k: if you install ubuntu minimal then install your preferred browser you will get a very small install footprint
[08:07] <glebihan> shai: did you get to install it ?
[08:08] <shai> nope
[08:08] <shai> still working on it...
[08:08] <glebihan> shai: the link I sent you doesn't work ?
[08:09] <shai> I works.. I was just doing other things too.... (too much work :P)
[08:09] <shai> I just got it installed now...
[08:09] <shai> Ok, now I have vncpasswd :)
[08:09] <glebihan> shai: ok nice
[08:10] <glebihan> shai: just wanted to make sure cause I'm going to leave soon, I like to know whether my ideas work
[08:10] <shai> glebihan, ok ... trying it now...
[08:11] <yin_yang2k> ActionParsnip tnx. right now I am looking for "kiosk-mode" on ubuntu... any links that would help?
[08:12] <s3r3n1t7> yin_yang2k, look into the addon section of firefox, that has them. I remember that one of them would auto activate it whenever firefox would start up.
[08:12] <shai> glebihan, x11vnc won't start ... http://pastebin.com/EXUm9X7F
[08:13] <shai> need to investigate it ...
[08:13] <glebihan> shai: try with "-display :1"
[08:13] <shai> *** x11vnc was unable to open the X DISPLAY: "1", it cannot continue.
[08:14] <shai> actually ...
[08:14] <shai> *** x11vnc was unable to open the X DISPLAY: ":1", it cannot continue.
[08:15] <glebihan> shai: you may find some ideas and links there : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45565&page=4
[08:16] <cjjnjust> how to restart X?
[08:16] <glebihan> cjjnjust: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[08:16] <yin_yang2k> s3r3n1t7 tnx. didn't know firefox had that :)
[08:16] <s3r3n1t7> yin_yang2k, you're welcome. I knew about it because i've build a webbased narrow casting system and we needed it.
[08:16] <niglop> how can I make my program always run under neath others windows?
[08:17] <glebihan> niglop: gtk programming ?
[08:18] <niglop> glebihan»  uhh im using tilda to make my terminal run in the background but i want it to be under all other windows when i use the pulldown keybind
[08:18] <cjjnjust> glebihan: thanks
[08:18] <glebihan> niglop: sorry no idea about that
[08:19] <glebihan> cjjnjust: you're welcome
[08:19] <wasnik_> actionparsnip: i did run the memcheck and it says the test passed
[08:23] <Jordan_U> niglop: Look into devilspie
[08:24] <wizzle> i have blackberry smart phone, n trying to connect it with usb port to my laptop. it's charging but not connected at all. then i was check to "Computer", it's was there but not mounting. i've trying to, but it still wont mounting
[08:26] <shellgod> i have no blackberry phone now
[08:26] <niglop> how come when i edit /etc/bash.bashrc it always goes back to the previous file?
[08:27] <shellgod> charging
[08:27] <wizzle> Jordan_U, do you know how to mounting a volume manually?
[08:27] <ShredMaster> hello, isn't  .daa file mountable, just like the .iso files?
[08:29] <Aleksander> Hello. Why my Ubuntu 10.04 might not see my Kindle 3 device?
[08:29] <wizzle> ShredMaster, i am sorry. r u talking to me? of course it, but it wont at all.
[08:29] <bullgard4> '~$ audacious2 -i gtkui; vis in tabs'. What does »vis« mean?
[08:30] <ShredMaster> wizzle: how do i run a .daa file?
[08:30] <Jordan_U> ShredMaster: No, it needs to be converted to an iso first.
[08:30] <shellgod> ummm
[08:30] <ShredMaster> jordan_U: ok
[08:30] <wizzle> ShredMaster, sorry i have no idea.
[08:30] <ShredMaster> wizzle: ok
[08:32] <Jordan_U> ShredMaster: daa2iso file.daa file.iso
[08:33] <underdog`> What's the command to generate a public RSA key from an already generated private key? Everywhere I look shows me how to generate the key pair all at once, but not a public key from an already generated private key.
[08:34] <zcat[1]> underdog`, I don't think you can do that ..
[08:35] <herman> Hi, just upgraded to Maverick, got a very weird bug. My laptop only does things when I hold a key (like Alt) down, otherwise it's frozen. Any idea how to start debugging this?
[08:36] <herman> Ie I have to hold down a key through the whole boot process, and even after boot in a VT the cursor stops flashing if I don't keep pressing keys.
[08:37] <wizzle> do anyone know how to mounting a volume manually?
[08:37] <fargiolas> do you guys know if is there a command to tell dpkg to forget about package install failures?
[08:37] <Flannel> herman: #ubuntu+1 for Maverick support, thanks.
[08:37] <extor> man mount
[08:37] <extor> lawl
[08:37] <herman> Flannel: thanks
[08:38] <xfrog> i have had a two day war with a microsd....files wont delete...they reappear everytime i reload it....I need some guidance please
[08:39] <junjie> update 9.10 to 10.04LTS, got this "mounting none on /dev failed: No such device"
[08:40] <niglop> how come when i edit /etc/bash.bashrc it always goes back to the previous file?
[08:41] <shellgod> ?
[08:41] <zcat[1]> underdog`, apparently; ssh-keygen -f ~/.ssh/id_rsa -y > ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
[08:42] <zcat[1]> I had to google it
[08:46] <Logicwax> anyone up?
[08:47] <Gnea> no, all 1159 people are asleep.
[08:47] <Logicwax> haha
[08:47] <Gnea> ;)
[08:48] <parapan> nope - i think all peoples are struggling to get into the channel after being on an interview with the FloodBOT :d
[08:48] <avelain> hi all
[08:48] <Logicwax> so I just finally upgraded to Lucid.  and dmraid doesn't seem to like my raid5 fakeraid (on siliconimage card).   however, i have an older HDD laying around with jaunty on it and when i boot from that install dmraid detects my raid5 just fine
[08:48] <avelain> can you tell me what's the default gui editor of ubuntu
[08:49] <Gnea> I tend to steer clear of software raid whenever possible
[08:49] <Gnea> avelain: gedit
[08:49] <Logicwax> google searching around, ive found that there is definitly bugs with dmraid on Lucid.....but no one has found any solutions
[08:49] <avelain> ok thanks
[08:49] <junjie> Some help me, when I update to 10.04 I got "kernel panic - not syncing :VFS :Ualbe to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)"
[08:49] <SwedeMike> booting off of sw raid is tricky, I find it's fine for non-boot.
[08:49] <Logicwax> SwedeMike: im not booting off of the raid
[08:49] <Logicwax> the raid5 is just storage
[08:50] <Logicwax> lucid doesnt like it.   but when i boot from jaunty it sees the raid5 just fine
[08:50] <SwedeMike> Logicwax: I've been using raid5 (and raid6) with sw-raid for quite some time, it works generally well.
[08:50] <Logicwax> in lucid, i get "sil: wrong # of devices in raid set"
[08:50] <Logicwax> [3/0] for all the drives
[08:50] <Logicwax> i dont get it
[08:50] <Logicwax> is there a way i can use the older dmraid from jaunty?
[08:51] <Logicwax> because like i said, Jaunty works just fine.  its only Lucid that has a screwed up dmraid
[08:51] <SwedeMike> dmraid? ew. I use mdadm.
[08:51] <Logicwax> i use mdadm for another raid.  but for my fakeraid i need dmraid
[08:52] <SwedeMike> no idea then, I stay clear of dmraid.
[08:52] <parapan> is there anyone familiar with video editing under linux ? basically coding a raw format into mkv ? but not only this .....also some authoring and so one ...
[08:52] <Logicwax> hrmmm
[08:52] <Logicwax> well you know of a way I could use the older dmraid with lucid?
[08:53] <Logicwax> im not sure how to use older versions of packages wwith the new dist update
[08:56] <Sanky> Hello, is there a quick way to change ubuntu's datetime formats to YY-MM-DD?
[08:57] <ahmad_> a
[08:58] <ahmad_> hello every one
[08:59] <bullgard4> '~$ audacious2 -i gtkui; vis in tabs'. What does »vis« mean?
[09:00] <tonik> Hi.  If I install Ubuntu 64-bit, will I be able to run 32-bit packages?
[09:03] <Logicwax> wow....solved my problem.    downloaded the old karmic dmraid source, compiled it, and installed it on lucid
[09:03] <Logicwax> works
[09:03] <tukadafoonday> Hi, I have installed linux on my machine / is on the first hard drive along with /swap. on the second harddrive i have put /home which is assume is not the only thing being used for home directory storage - i now however want to use the second harddrive for windows.... is there any way i can make my /home on HDD1? do i just resize the partitions and then make a new /home on HDD1 followed by copying all the files on the home dir
[09:03] <tukadafoonday> ectory over the the new one?
[09:03] <ikonia> tukadafoonday: what version of ubuntu are yo uusing
[09:03] <tukadafoonday> ikonia, 10.10
[09:04] <ikonia> tukadafoonday: 10.10 is not supported and is a development release (don't use it unless you know what you are doing) it can be disucssed in the channel #ubuntu+1
[09:04] <tukadafoonday> It is going well, no problems yet, and i figured as its just to play around with i can help with sending any crash information through.
[09:05] <tukadafoonday> plus, to late to take it off now. hah.
[09:06] <junjie> Hi, update-initrafs return "cannot find /lib/modules/initrd..." What can I do?
[09:13] <wizzle> how to mount a volume manually?
[09:13] <arundracula> I've installed my wifi ethernet card in Ubuntu using ndiswrapper. Now what to do to know if my card is detected and working
[09:14] <ope> hi, last I installed Win7 on my brand new Intel SDD Postville. Win7 does boot fast. After than I installed Ubuntu 10.04.1 with Grub2 (1.98). Linux boost fast, but Win7 does require a multiple time as before. Before install all, the partitons are align with gparted 0.6.2 with 1 MiB alignment. sda1 -> win7, sda2 -> ubuntu, sda5 -> linux swap. Anyway, ayn ideas what happens here to win7 ?? Googling does show that I'm not the first with this problem, 
[09:14] <marcki> wizzle : mount device location
[09:14] <tonysan> I can't enable color under terminal, someone have a clue?
[09:14] <tonysan> I edited ~/.bashrc, it doesn't work
[09:14] <wizzle> marcki, yeah.
[09:14] <marcki> wizzle: device is /dev/smthing
[09:16] <wizzle> marcki, can u explain that?
[09:17] <marcki> wizzle: what do you want to mount
[09:17] <marcki> is it a partition
[09:17] <rob_w> what are all the /.
[09:18] <rob_w> sorry hang on
[09:18] <rob_w> what are all the *.deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ for ? can i delete those ?
[09:18] <wizzle> my blackberry phone
[09:18] <marcki> wizzle: usb connected ?
[09:19] <wizzle> i have blackberry smart phone, n trying to connect it with usb port to my laptop. it's charging but not connected at all. then i was check to "Computer", it's was there but not mounting. i've trying to, but it still wont mounting
[09:19] <wizzle> that's my older post.
[09:21] <marcki> wizzle: so type "mount /dev/sda(the number of device) /dircectory to mount too
[09:21] <alkisg> addgroup a1 &
[09:21] <alkisg> addgroup a2 &
[09:21] <alkisg> ==> running addgroup in parallel creates groups with the same gid, should I file a bug for that or is it expected behavior?
[09:22] <Status0> Hellow all ! do you know where i can find the translate team for ubuntu 10.10 installer
[09:22] <wizzle> marcki, how to know its sda number?
[09:22] <Status0> on LP
[09:22] <Status0> ?
[09:23] <marcki> wizzle: use TAB button it gives u all sda devices present and use" df -h" to see wich one is connected so one that is not listed is the bb
[09:28] <Talib> Hi, I am a windows user trying out ubuntu. I was told that /usr/bin is kinda like program files. My question is why are there no sub-directories used here? It seems a bit disorganized.
[09:29] <Tempus_Fugit> ok this might be a dumb ? but does linux use any http protocols or are they all tcp/udp
[09:30] <Tempus_Fugit> and if so how would I look at what type of protocol and website is using in real time
[09:31] <Tempus_Fugit> so like to connect to a website then look at either "ps" or netstat to see what type of protocol it was to allow or deny it in iptables
[09:31] <wizzle> marcki, i see five sda number in my system n when i type "df -h" it's only two device that active. first is my partition second is my system
[09:32] <marcki> wizzle: ok forget about sda now and check the link i send it to you it might be something specified to blackberry :P
[09:32] <marcki> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/109180
[09:32] <set_killer> hello guys. I am trying to install ubuntu 10.04 on a vary old computer - AMD Duron on 1.8 Ghz. But when i try to boot from usb i get somekind of error: There is no default configuration available for this computer. (or something like that). So HOW to install ubuntu on this old old computer?
[09:32] <wizzle> marcki, thanks alot
[09:33] <marcki> wizzle: np tell me if it get solved
[09:33] <wizzle> marcki, ok
[09:33] <set_killer> is there support for Durons?
[09:35] <ectospasm> set_killer: Duron should be OK
[09:35] <aliverius> i want to use my box as both a server and a router. would it be ok to use ubuntu to do both or should i preffer running a router in kvm?
[09:35] <jfer> is it possible to create a deb package from a binary tar.gz or must the source be used?
[09:36] <ectospasm> set_killer: does it actually start to boot the USB key?  Does it not even try to load the kernel?
[09:36] <set_killer> yes
[09:37] <set_killer> so maybe the motherboard is not supported?
[09:38] <ectospasm> set_killer: could be the system can't boot from USB.  Does it have an optical drive?  Can you burn the ISO to disc and try booting off that?
[09:39] <set_killer> yes, there is a cd-rom drive and successfully booted ubuntu 6.10 from this drive
[09:41] <sunil> hi to all
[09:41] <ectospasm> set_killer: one other thing, make sure the ISO you burned to the USB key is valid, check the md5sum/sha1sum before you burn it to a disc
[09:42] <set_killer> thanks
[09:42] <sunil> can some help me about empathy
[09:45] <younder> Hello I accidentally swapped two arguments when doing a dump of my home directory. Thus destroying my home directory partion. Well I downloaded the entire previous backup from the external disk. Logged in as root (sudo is rubbish here. The point being that /root is not under /home) Then I restored. FU at 0:20, Fixed at 5:30..
[09:46] <nico_> ciao
[09:46] <nico_> !list
[09:46] <younder> Question: This would not work for my system directory. Is there a way to restore the / directory partion?
[09:47] <younder> I have a ton of extention packages and simply reinstalling wouldn't work so hot..
[09:47] <tensorpudding> you can backup your root partition
[09:47] <tensorpudding> i use duplicity to do so
[09:48] <younder> Yes... but I can't restore it while using it can I. And if I boot from disk I have a different SUID and thus not root access.
[09:48] <pie_time> can thunderbird be ran as a daemon in the background in ubuntu? also: can it be integrated as well as evolution?
[09:49] <Alex______> Hello
[09:51] <Alex______> Which games can I run on ubuntu?
[09:51] <Alex______> High-end..
[09:51] <bazhang> !games > Alex______
[09:51] <boba> i installed ros (robot operating system) on ubuntu, and it has suport on lucid but when i type ros it says no command found
[09:52] <boba> what could be the case, i tried " which ros-cturtle-base" and gives no output
[09:53] <tensorpudding> boba: how did you install it? where did you install it
[09:54] <boba> tensorpudding: first did sudo apt-get install ros-cturtle-ros and then sudo apt-get install ros-cturtle-base
[09:54] <boba> tensorpudding: it was not need the first one
[09:54] <mangamonk> I've just upgraded to 10.04 ..in the process I've lost the bluetooth mouse
[09:54] <boba> tensorpudding: But I realized later that i need the second one and did not remove the first one
[09:55] <mangamonk> I've worked through
[09:55] <mangamonk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup#Setup Devices
[09:55] <boba> tensorpudding: can that be the reason for them now not working
[09:55] <tensorpudding> boba: okay, so ros-cturtle-base is the binary that's supposed to come with it?
[09:55] <nico_> ciao
[09:55] <nico_> !list
[09:56] <boba> tensorpudding: but when i type in the terminal "ros" it is not recognized
[09:56] <tensorpudding> boba: what does 'ls /usr/bin | grep ros' return
[09:56] <boba> tensorpudding: kross
[09:56] <youcker> hi all
[09:57] <boba> tensorpudding: there is no only "ros", just the kross thing
[09:57] <arundracula> please someone help my wifi card detected , driver installed, hardware detected... but No device found for wlan0
[09:57] <pie_time> can thunderbird be ran as a daemon in the background in ubuntu? also: can it be integrated as well as evolution?
[09:58] <tensorpudding> boba: did you read the install instructions on the ROS site? apparently you need to set some environment variables
[09:58] <boba> tensorpudding: echo "source /opt/ros/cturtle/setup.sh" >> ~/.bashrc . ~/.bashrc
[09:59] <tensorpudding> boba: so you'll need to configure the startup files of your shell
[09:59] <boba> tensorpudding: i did that
[09:59] <boba> tensorpudding: but did not work
[09:59] <boba> tensorpudding: how can i configure them
[09:59] <tensorpudding> boba: i mean, by editing .bashrc to include that source statement, but you did that already
[10:00] <Alex______> !games > Alex______
[10:00] <boba> tensorpudding: i just pasted that thing with echo and did not give any output
[10:00] <tensorpudding> boba: but the tutorial doesn't suggest that there are any ros-cturtle binaries
[10:00] <tensorpudding> boba: are you following the tutorial?
[10:01] <glebihan> boba: sorry coming in, in what context are you ? login shell ? ssh ? gnome-terminal ?
[10:01] <boba> glebihan: how can I check that, i just do alt f2 gnome-terminal and type ros, also tried under root
[10:02] <glebihan> boba: lemme check something
[10:02] <tensorpudding> boba: what do you get when you do 'which rosed'
[10:02] <boba> tensorpudding: nothing
[10:03] <Alex______> Is the source of ubbotu available?
[10:03] <tensorpudding> boba: oh, right, after you do the editing of .bashrc you have to close the shell
[10:03] <tensorpudding> boba: and then open a new one
[10:03] <Alex______> Is the source of ubbotu available?
[10:03] <Alex______> ubottu *
[10:04] <glebihan> boba: does it work if you put your commands in .bash_profile instead ?
[10:04] <tensorpudding> boba: the echo command added a bit to source the configuration for ROS every time you start the shell; the shell must be restarted for the changes to take effect
[10:04] <jayne> ubottu: source?
[10:04] <bazhang> !botclone > Alex______
[10:04] <tensorpudding> Alex______: ubottu.com
[10:06] <tensorpudding> boba: so if you try that command 'which rosed' again in a new shell, what do you get?
[10:06] <boba> tensorpudding: i closed the terminal pasted the command restarted the shel and did not work
[10:06] <glebihan> jayne: do you need help ?
[10:06] <bazhang> glebihan, helping Alex______
[10:06] <Sanky> So, anyone knows if there is there a quick way to change ubuntu's datetime formats to YY-MM-DD?  :(
[10:06] <veleno> hi. i have an error trying to add a key to my ssh-agent: http://pastie.org/1157724
[10:06] <tensorpudding> boba: it returned nothing?
[10:07] <jayne> glebihan: nope... just taking a guess at trying to help Alex______
[10:07] <boba> tensorpudding: nothing
[10:07] <glebihan> jayne: ok
[10:07] <sunson> Sanky: eh. you want hte date to change on the UI?
[10:07] <boba> tensorpudding: source /opt/ros/cturtle/setup.sh
[10:07] <Sanky> yeah, global date settings
[10:07] <boba> tensorpudding: what about that
[10:07] <Sanky> m/d/y or anything that uses month names confuses me :|
[10:08] <tensorpudding> boba: try running that in the shell, and then try running the 'which rosed' again
[10:08] <Sanky> y-m-d is simple, easy to sort and should be the standard
[10:08] <tensorpudding> boba: wait, my bad, rosed isn't by default
[10:08] <sunson> Sanky: date +%Y-%m-%d should give that. otherwise date prints a standard string.
[10:08] <sunson> changing it might break quite a few scripts :)
[10:08] <sunson> s/few scripts/stupid scripts/
[10:09] <tensorpudding> boba: apparently you need to source this rosbash thing
[10:09] <Sanky> well my locale is set to Czech so it uses a different date format but nothing breaks
[10:09] <Sanky> I should be able to set Y-m-d somewhere :V
[10:09] <boba> tensorpudding: how can i do that?
[10:10] <tensorpudding> boba: try 'which rospack' instead, that should work
[10:11] <tensorpudding> boba: you should read the tutorial on the ROS wiki to find this stuff out
[10:11] <NeoCicak> hi all... somehow my ubuntu doesnt display the wireless network applet anymore... is there anyway to bring it back?
[10:11] <boba> tensorpudding: /opt/ros/cturtle/ros/bin/rospack
[10:11] <tishammer> i've apt-get installed package linux-rt. how is it now to get a linux-rt image running?
[10:11] <boba> tensorpudding: i get this one now
[10:11] <tensorpudding> boba: okay, so that means that it is installed properly
[10:12] <Jordan_U> Sanky: You can alias date='date +%Y-%m-%d'
[10:12] <boba> tensorpudding: but typing ros still gives me not found command
[10:12] <tensorpudding> boba: the sourced .sh script added /opt/ros/cturtle/ros/bin to your PATH, so the binaries for ROS are available
[10:12] <tensorpudding> boba: what is ros supposed to do?
[10:13] <ngirard> Hi all. I'm trying to get my gf to perform a dist-upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 on her laptop. My concern is, her network gets disconnected every 5 minutes or so. Is the update process resilient to these disconnections ?
[10:13] <Jordan_U> ngirard: Yes, it will download everything before actually committing to the upgrade.
[10:15] <ngirard> Hi Jordan_U. Thanks. Shouldn't I increase some delay that the process considers before considering a deb file can't be downloaded ?
[10:15] <boba> tensorpudding: i try to test turtlesim
[10:16] <boba> tensorpudding: i do "roscore" then  "rosmake turtlesim" and then "rosrun turtlesim turtlesim_node"
[10:16] <Jordan_U> ngirard: I'm not sure that's configurable.
[10:17] <boba> tensorpudding: roscore starts, and the next two commands should i type in a different terminal, because on the same it does not run the turtle sim
[10:17] <Jordan_U> ngirard: You may just have to restart the upgrade multiple times (previously downloaded packages will be saved).
[10:18] <boba> tensorpudding: i made it, thanks a lot for the help
[10:19] <boba> tensorpudding: the first process should be running in a different terminal
[10:19] <boba> tensorpudding: have a nice day and thanks once again
[10:19] <pie_time> can thunderbird be ran as a daemon in the background in ubuntu? also: can it be integrated as well as evolution?
[10:20] <ikonia> pie_time: no
[10:20] <ikonia> pie_time: it's a client, not a daemon
[10:25] <pie_time> ikonia, thank you :)
[10:25] <ikonia> pie_time: ?
[10:26] <ikonia> pie_time: oh, sorry, the question, no problemn
[10:26] <pie_time> ikonia, you just answered a question for me, so I was thanking you.
[10:28] <ngirard> Jordan_U: thanks for your feedback. I'm sure it can be configured as a global networking setting but I don't remember which one
[10:29] <Jordan_U> ngirard: You're welcome, and good luck.
[10:30] <ngirard> Jordan_U: thanks
[10:33] <chalcedony> does anyone know of an online guide to the ubuntu 10.04 boot screens, to help us figure out why it won't boot, what the failure notices mean?
[10:34] <chalcedony> or conversely if someone knows and can help?
[10:34] <chalcedony> i haven't found it with google
[10:36] <anomaly> I have added restricted repos and medibuntu.. it installed libdvdcss, but it can not find libdvdread4.. googled a dozen pages.. what else is missing?
[10:37] <erUSUL> anomaly: it is in the plain universe repos
[10:37] <erUSUL> !info lidvdread4
[10:37] <llua> gg.
[10:37] <erUSUL> !info libdvdread4
[10:37] <Katsumi32> good mourning
[10:39] <anomaly> I have universe enabled, but a search for libdvdread4 is still giving me nothing.  quite odd.
[10:40] <magnetron> anomaly: are you sure you ran update?
[10:40] <glebihan> anomaly: which release of ubuntu ?
[10:40] <anomaly> glebihan 10.04.. and yes.. apt-get update
[10:40] <glebihan> anomaly: could pastebin you /etc/apt/sources.list file ?
[10:41] <umc> guys, can anyone please tell me what this error is from ? http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/1277/err1.jpg running ubuntu 10.04.1 64bit
[10:41] <tensorpudding> umc: that's a kernel panic it looks like
[10:41] <highlander84> If someone could advise me... I am installing ATI drivers for a R420 card(X800XT) I downloaded the drivers. When I run the command sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/karmic it tells me " Distro Version entered incorrectly or not supported" I have 10.04. So which package should I tell it to install? the most recent in the driver is Jauntry and source...
[10:41] <erUSUL> anomaly: what version of ubuntu ?
[10:42] <anomaly> erUSUL 10.04
[10:42] <umc> tensorpudding: could this be because of hdd or ram failure ? or what causes panics like this usually ?
[10:42] <glebihan> umc: try a memtest
[10:42] <anomaly> http://pastebin.ca/1940403
[10:42] <tensorpudding> umc: kernel panics are often either broken hardware or broken drivers
[10:42] <erUSUL> anomaly: check in System>admin...>software sources do you have everything enabled?
[10:43] <glebihan> anomaly: I've noticed the other day that some packages were missing in the us mirror
[10:43] <umc> glebihan: can that be done while the pc is running or do I have to boot from some live cd ?
[10:43] <tensorpudding> umc: memtest is available from the grub boot menu
[10:43] <glebihan> anomaly: maybe you could try some other mirror
[10:44] <tensorpudding> umc: it will usually be near the bottom, after the kernel boot options, with a name like Memory test (memtest86+)
[10:45] <glebihan> anomaly: no, that's not the problem, libdvdread4 is available on the mirror
[10:45] <umc> alright, I'll try the memtest. if that succeedes, broken drivers or hdd ? can I check for those too somehow ? I had no problems setting it up, but I had little experience with diagnostics and debugging
[10:45] <glebihan> anomaly: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libd/libdvdread/libdvdread4_4.1.3-8ubuntu1_i386.deb or http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libd/libdvdread/libdvdread4_4.1.3-8ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[10:46] <tensorpudding> umc: you can check for filesystem corruption somewhat using smart, assuming your motherboard supports it
[10:46] <tensorpudding> umc: err, hdd corruption
[10:47] <umc> it's a pretty new pc, motherboard is pretty smart
[10:47] <tensorpudding> umc: as for drivers, are you running any proprietary blob drivers?
[10:47] <umc> not that I know of...
[10:47] <tensorpudding> umc: S.M.A.R.T., I mean. It's something that does diagnostics on hard drives
[10:47] <tensorpudding> umc: it can be controlled through ubuntu's smart daemon
[10:47] <pie_time> is there anyway to prevent thunderbird from opening links if you accidentally click one inside an email?
[10:48] <umc> oh, also, forgot to mention I have a raid1 setup, but cat /proc/mdstatcat reports everything is fine
[10:48] <tensorpudding> umc: if you didn't add any drivers in the after-install process, you won't be
[10:48] <anomaly> glebihan oddly enough, again, I wget'd that file.. it installed, but totem is still complaining about missing files to run it.
[10:48] <alexander_> can someone tell me how to load the nvidia driver on boot?
[10:48] <tensorpudding> umc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[10:48] <umc> tensorpudding: I use it only as a server, no fancy video drivers, sound, etc. so only the default install stuff
[10:49] <tensorpudding> umc: hmm, in that case it's highly unlikely that it's a driver error
[10:49] <glebihan> anomaly: does totem mention the missing files ?
[10:49] <glebihan> anomaly: or could you pastebin the exact error message ?
[10:50] <anomaly> "looking for a dvd source plugin that is not available"
[10:50] <highlander84> Any takers with my request?
[10:50] <abhijit> hi
[10:50] <alexander_> can someone tell me how to load the nvidia driver on boot?
[10:50] <abhijit> !nvidia | alexander_
[10:51] <umc> tensorpudding: I have SMART support
[10:51] <anomaly> glebihan thanks for the help, though.. I just tried mplayer and it is crashing due to libdvdread errors.. will just go to another distribution
[10:52] <umc> tensorpudding: if I run smartctl, will it disrupt the server's activity ?
[10:52] <tensorpudding> umc: while you're running a test on the drive, it may slighly decrease read/write performance on that drive
[10:53] <tensorpudding> umc: but it doesn't require any special treatment
[10:53] <umc> tensorpudding: and one last question, if it's a raid1, can I safely run the test on sda and sdb individually, one after another ?
[10:56] <alexander_> abhijit, no help at all
[10:56] <abhijit> alexander_, dunno
[10:57] <alexander_> can someone tell me how to load the nvidia driver on boot?
[10:58] <highlander84> looking for advice on which driver package to install for ATI drivers 10.04
[10:58] <sipior> alexander_: certainly. add the driver name to the file /etc/modules.
[10:59] <highlander84> Not my problem...im running 10.04 the driver package only supports 9.04 and before. I got it directly from ATI's site tho.
[11:00] <alexander_> sipior: how do I see the name of the driver? I'm still new...
[11:03] <highlander84> Someone with some ATI driver help...
[11:03] <abhijit> !ati
[11:03] <kodez> good day, how do i compile c++ in linux terminal?
[11:03] <sipior> alexander_:  i'm fairly certain the name is "nvidia", but you can have a look through /var/log/Xorg.0.log to check.  "xdpyinfo" might also return that name, can't remember at the moment.
[11:03] <jrib> kodez: what are you compiling?  Your own code?
[11:03] <kitari_lou> hello all
[11:03] <sipior> kodez: g++ is the standard c++ compiler.
[11:04] <abhijit> kodez, g++ file.cpp and then ./a.out
[11:04] <kitari_lou> I partitionned my hard when I installed ubuntu but I can't access the bigest part of my hard drive now
[11:04] <kodez> sipior, i tried g++ myfile.cpp and it says the command is not found
[11:04] <sipior> kodez: then try installing the compiler package :-)
[11:04] <sipior> kodez: "sudo apt-get install g++"
[11:05] <sipior> kodez: you'll want to make sure you have build-essential, and the rest of the gcc friends.
[11:05] <highlander84> So with aht Bianary driver how to... on step 11. I am not running karmic... im running Lucid. So it will not install. The driver contains up to jauntry. So what do I tell it to install????????????????
[11:05] <jrib> !ati | highlander84
[11:06] <michal__> hello. i've installed ubuntu yesterday and having some problems. is there anyone that would be so kind to help me?
[11:06] <kitari_lou> I partitionned my hard when I installed ubuntu but I can't access the bigest part of my hard drive now
[11:06] <jrib> michal__: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[11:06] <tensorpudding> umc: sorry, yeah, it should be fine
[11:07] <umc> thanks a lot for the info
[11:07] <tensorpudding> umc: smart is on a much lower level than software raid
[11:07] <highlander84> clearly karmic is not listed, so it will not buildpkg im asking which one to then tell it to build, I have it all listed in my terminal right now.
[11:08] <kitari_lou> I partitionned my hard when I installed ubuntu but I can't access the bigest part of my hard drive now, how could I acces it?
[11:08] <michal__> my task bar(clock,network,battery) disapeared after installing updates?how to turn it on?
[11:08] <jrib> highlander84: have you read the link ubottu gave you?
[11:09] <abhijit>  !panels | michal__
[11:09] <michal__> i have internal speakers and mic they don't work? how to turn it on?
[11:09] <abhijit> !sound | michal__
[11:09] <kitari_lou> I partitionned my hard drive when I installed ubuntu but I can't access the biggest part of it now, how could I acces it? can someone please answer me?
[11:10] <highlander84> yes, I have it open right now. and have specified the exact spot in the guide I am having the problem and exactly what it is with the relevant information.
[11:10] <jrib> highlander84: not to me...
[11:10] <highlander84> ...
[11:10] <umc> alright... 58 minutes for a long test on a 250gb hdd...
[11:10] <highlander84> clearly karmic is not listed, so it will not buildpkg im asking which one to then tell it to build, I have it all listed in my terminal right now.
[11:10] <michal__> how to disable password on turning on and edit system?
[11:11] <jrib> highlander84: what exactly are you doing...?  There are several options on the wiki
[11:12] <silv3r_m00n> google chrome on ubuntu 9.10 doesn't display hindi fonts , how can I fix this ?
[11:12] <mofaph> Hi, all. I was wondering what the use of module 'ehci_hcd '?
[11:12] <michal__> how to change desktop from big icons to 'unfolding' from one button?
[11:12] <highlander84> jrib step 11, buildpkg Ubuntu/karmic  It will not build it because that package is not in the driver .run fild.
[11:12] <abhijit> !manual | michal__
[11:12] <kitari_lou> I partitionned my hard drive when I installed ubuntu but I can't access the biggest part of it now, how could I acces it? can someone please answer me?
[11:13] <abhijit> silv3r_m00n, its chromium bug. use arora or firefox or opera
[11:13] <michal__> thank you thank you thank you!!!
[11:14] <highlander84> jrib, I just need to know which one to have it build so i can install it. useing sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run --listpkg i see no Lucid listed (10.04) so which do I tell it to use.
[11:14] <silv3r_m00n> abhijit: arora ?
[11:14] <jrib> highlander84: why are you not just using System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?  Is it not available there?
[11:14] <silv3r_m00n> abhijit: but the same google chrome on ubuntu 10.04 does display hindi fonts
[11:14] <highlander84> jrib, Nothing comes up there. thats why im doing it this way.
[11:15] <abhijit> silv3r_m00n, it displays the font but they are crashed. scatter. not readable. better use another browser
[11:15] <abhijit> silv3r_m00n, arora is one of the browser
[11:15] <jrib> highlander84: did you read documentation on what --buildpkg does?
[11:16] <d3vic3> after trying to mount wmii socket using 9mount this way
[11:16] <d3vic3> "sudo modprobe 9pnet && sudo modprobe 9p && export WMII_NS_DIR=/tmp/ns.myhome.:0 && 9mount -i 'unix!'$WMII_NS_DIR/wmii /mnt/wmii"
[11:16] <d3vic3> i get no access to /mnt/wmii directory!
[11:16] <d3vic3> "ls -lh /mnt/wmii" gives me "d????????? ? ?    ?       ?                ? wmii"
[11:16] <d3vic3> any operation on /mnt/wmii gives an input/output error!
[11:16] <FloodBot4> d3vic3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:16] <highlander84> jrib, it basicly creats the deb files. but it cant when what i tell it to creat is not contained in the driver fild i got from ATI's site.
[11:16] <highlander84> file*
[11:16] <jrib> highlander84: "basically" isn't good enough obviously... why karmic?
[11:17] <jrib> highlander84: can you link me to the documentation? Or output of the help from the binary?
[11:17] <silv3r_m00n> abhijit: let me try arora
[11:17] <kitari_lou> I partitionned my hard drive when I installed ubuntu but I can't access the biggest part of it now, how could I acces it? can someone please answer me?
[11:17] <abhijit> silv3r_m00n, you may have firefox? why not use it?
[11:17] <jrib> highlander84: might as well throw in what you are running and the full output on a pastebin too
[11:18] <neutron> hello
[11:18] <neutron> anyone can help me with this confirmed bug:
[11:18] <neutron> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/580801
[11:18] <neutron> ?
[11:18] <michal__> hi. after reseting gnome panel i'm getting: "npme-panel: no process found". why?
[11:18] <jrib>  highlander84 my guess is this documentation just hasn't seen any love since lucid's release
[11:18] <highlander84> jrib, so the guild im useing and what else?
[11:18] <silv3r_m00n> abhijit: actually chrome is fast , firefox is very slow
[11:19] <erUSUL> d3vic3: plan9? i guess this is too out of place here... maybe someone in #ubuntu-server have tried it
[11:19] <jrib> highlander84: the official documentation from ati and the help output from the binary you are running if there is any
[11:19] <abhijit> silv3r_m00n, yah right. thats why i use arora and/or opera for devangari purpose and all other purpose - chromium
[11:19] <silv3r_m00n> abhijit: I installed arora , let me use it
[11:19] <abhijit> silv3r_m00n, hmm
[11:19] <jrib> highlander84: and might as well throw in what you are running and the full output on a pastebin too
[11:19] <highlander84> jrib, I'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  let me see if i can get the help from the binary.
[11:20] <jrib> I know you're following that :/
[11:20] <d3vic3> erUSUL: i'm just usnig the 9mount command under ubuntu
[11:20] <Katsumi32> highlander84, what ati card do you have?
[11:20] <ChesterX> What cpu are better for ubuntu (and linux in general), AMD or Intel?
[11:20] <d3vic3> wmii filesystem mount error http://paste.ubuntu.com/493558/
[11:20] <abhijit> !hardware > ChesterX
[11:20] <silv3r_m00n> abhijit: cool , its as fast as chrome and displays hindi fonts good , good tool , I didn't know abt it
[11:21] <abhijit> silv3r_m00n, good. :D
[11:21] <ChesterX> abhijit, thx
[11:21] <erUSUL> d3vic3: samba nfs ssh are known around here but i doubt many here know what 9p is. you are free to ask of course. just FYI
[11:21] <silv3r_m00n> abhijit: I hope this is a qt thing and not a gtk thing ?
[11:21] <abhijit> ChesterX, also you will get more info about hardware to choose in release note
[11:21] <abhijit> silv3r_m00n, i think so . not sure
[11:22] <highlander84> Katsumi32, ATI X800XT AGP
[11:22] <d3vic3> erUSUL: thx, I'll try #ubuntu-server as well
[11:22] <glebihan> silv3r_m00n: arora uses Qt
[11:22] <silv3r_m00n> glebihan: that's good
[11:23] <silv3r_m00n> why isn't there a qt port of firefox/gecko
[11:24] <highlander84> jrib: im just gonna run it with the latest the driver has sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/jaunty and see what happenes.
[11:24] <jrib> highlander84: aren't you running lucid?
[11:24] <tensorpudding> porting a project like that to a different graphics toolkit is a ton of effort
[11:24] <Katsumi32> highlander84, do you have ubuntu 10.04 or 9.10?
[11:24] <highlander84> jrib, yep thats my problem the driver only goes to jaunty...
[11:24] <albech_> what would the CIDR be for two IP addresses next to eachother?
[11:25] <jrib> highlander84: oh I see your card isn't supported by the this 10.4 driver on the page?
[11:25] <albech_> so if it wanted to target both 192.168.0.24 and 192.168.0.25?
[11:25] <highlander84> jrib, card is OS is not. from what I gather.
[11:25] <michal__> could anybody help,try to enable task bar,after reseting to default i'm getting a message fter reseting gnome panel i'm getting: "npme-panel: no process found". why?
[11:26] <albech_> would 192.168.0.24/31 do it?
[11:26] <highlander84> jrib, it built the packages for jaunty so now i just need to issue the command, sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[11:27] <Katsumi32> highlander84, if you have ubuntu 9.10 your card will should work with catalyst from amd if you have 10.04 your card is to old to work so u have to use open source driver the one already installed in your ubuntu
[11:27] <Katsumi32> and not everything will work perfect
[11:27] <zamba> i've set up apache as a proxy for an internal web site.. the problem is that i externally use a dir name to access the internal web page that is running on the root of the server.. how can i "rewrite" the hrefs in the web page so that it refers to the correct path internally?
[11:28] <zamba> www.example.com/test/ -> www.example2.internal/
[11:28] <highlander84> jrib, I need to leave for a bit I will returne in 20-30mins..... The open source drivers did nothing for me. thats why im going to this.....
[11:28] <tensorpudding> zamba: is this really an ubuntu question?
[11:29] <glebihan> zamba: you should try asking on #apache2
[11:30] <highlander84> jrib, I got 15more mins, so if i issue sudo dpkg -i *.deb will i get 3d support or should I take another route?
[11:30] <glebihan> highlander84: best way to know is to try
[11:30] <jrib> michal__: does it really say "npme-panel"?
[11:30] <jrib> well there's that attitude... :P
[11:31] <michal__> yes. copied and pasted it
[11:31] <highlander84> jrib, Thats what I was gonna do, make it or break it. So if im not back for a while you know why. Thanks for the help!!!!
[11:31] <michal__> sorry G is missing
[11:32] <michal__> jrib: gnpme-panel
[11:32] <jrib> michal__: really?
[11:32] <glebihan> michal__: never heard of that, I would guess on "gnome-panel" and jrib too I'm sure
[11:33] <shane2peru> is there any smart phone out there that I can sync my contacts with evolution???  Please only answer if you have sync'ed with Evolution, not seen a guide, I recently bought a Blackberry Storm, and have been extremely disappointed in the sync-less ness.
[11:33] <jrib> michal__: how did you "reset gnome panel"?
[11:34] <michal__> typed in the Termina: gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel &&killall gnpme-panel.   gnpme-panel: no process found
[11:34] <glebihan> michal__: type "killall gnome-panel"
[11:35] <erUSUL> michal__: typo - gnpme-panel
[11:37] <harovali> hi , I'm trying to get my Xorg in ubuntu 10.04 to work using the openchrome drivers since I have a VIA onboard video chipset. It doesn't allow for higher resolutions than 800x600, so I suspect something is going wrong. Is there anything I can do to try a better video mode ?
[11:38] <michal__> gnome-panel:  Could not connect to session manager: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SessionManager': no such name
[11:39] <michal__> killall gnome-panel
[11:39] <michal__> gnome-panel: no process found
[11:39] <jrib> michal__: do you have a panel now?
[11:39] <michal__> you're talking about taskbar/menu?
[11:40] <jrib> michal__: the panel that contains your menu, window list, notification area, etc
[11:40] <erUSUL> harovali: check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file. maybe there is some error
[11:40] <michal__> No. after installing updates it is gone.
[11:40] <jrib> michal__: what updates?
[11:40] <jrib> !who | michal__
[11:41] <michal__> jrib: automatic updates from ubuntu from update manager
[11:42] <jrib> michal__: did you restart since the updates?
[11:42] <michal__> jrib: yes
[11:42] <jrib> michal__: and now when you login, you have no panel, correct?
[11:43] <harovali> erUSUL: yes , I've looked throu it http://paste.pocoo.org/show/261859/  , but can't understand why it doesn't work properly. Would you please help me ?
[11:44] <michal__> jrib: no panel at all. can't switch between windows,can't minimize firefox.
[11:44] <jrib> michal__: run "gnome-panel" in a terminal
[11:44] <karmel> hello
[11:44] <karmel> can anybody help with enabling software soft mixing with pulseaudio?
[11:45] <michal__> jrib: root@BeyondPhysical:/home/michal# gnome-panel
[11:45] <michal__> ** Message: Could not connect to session manager: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SessionManager': no such name
[11:45] <michal__> ** (gnome-panel:1890): WARNING **: Could not connect to session manager: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SessionManager': no such name
[11:45] <iceroot> michal__: why running it was root?
[11:45] <jrib> michal__: and no panel appears and you get a new prompt in your shell?
[11:45] <jrib> ah, good question
[11:45] <karmel> run as a normal user
[11:46] <erUSUL> harovali: do not see nothing wrong ... maybe you can add the needed mode with xrandr ?
[11:46] <iceroot> michal__: dont do it as root, because root is not the owner of the current gdm session
[11:46] <live-cd> hello everyone ... excuse me ... i'm here with an ubuntu-live_cd ... can you tell me how i can try and import "outlook express" emails into an email-program?
[11:46] <harovali> erUSUL: I'll try
[11:46] <jatt> !evolution
[11:46] <jatt> live-cd: evolution
[11:47] <erUSUL> harovali: what mode do you need? 1024x768?
[11:47] <live-cd> ok, thank you jatt ... lemme check that :)
[11:47] <harovali> erUSUL: yes, for instance
[11:47] <harovali> erUSUL: that'd rock
[11:47] <jatt> aka d-volution
[11:47] <jatt> have fun :)
[11:47] <erUSUL> harovali: cvt 1024 768 85 --> Modeline "1024x768_85.00"   94.50  1024 1096 1200 1376  768 771 775 809 -hsync +vsync
[11:48] <erUSUL> harovali: xrandr --newmode "1024x768_85.00"   94.50  1024 1096 1200 1376  768 771 775 809 -hsync +vsync
[11:48] <erUSUL> harovali: xrandr --addmode VGA 1024x768
[11:48] <erUSUL> harovali: xrandr --output VGA --mode 1024x768
[11:48] <live-cd> jatt: unfortunately evolution doesn't work! ... outlook express uses "dbx"-files ... unless you know of a free converter?
[11:48] <michal__> jrib&iceroot: after clicking on file in terminal and choose new, i got it back on.
[11:48] <erUSUL> harovali: that's for 85 refresh rate you can choose another one... rerun cvt with the settings you need
[11:49] <michal__> jrib: should i go with killall option as well?
[11:50] <jrib> michal__: no.  But if you just typed "gnome-panel" in your terminal and hit enter, you probably want to hit ctrl-z, followed by "bg; disown" so you can close the terminal and keep gnome-panel alive
[11:50] <harovali> erUSUL: it says 'xrandr: cannot find output "VGA" ' when i run 'xrandr --addmode VGA 1024x768'
[11:50] <cixa> hello where can i find a capcimeter for linux?
[11:50] <cixa> something that emasure capacitance
[11:51] <karmel> no chance for help with my pulseaudio? I am fighting with it for a long time
[11:51] <michal__>  jrib: thanks a lot. gotta try it. will it bo OK after restart?
[11:51] <jrib> karmel: ask a specific question
[11:51] <jrib> michal__: should
[11:51] <jatt> live-cd: dude did a search for you, take a look at this thread
[11:51] <jatt> target/my-app-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar com.mycompany.app.App
[11:51] <jatt> I mean
[11:51] <jatt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43841
[11:51] <michal__> Jrib: THANK YOU!
[11:52] <live-cd> jatt: :) wanted to show you this website too ... found that in the mean-time too :)
[11:52] <live-cd> and jatt ? ...  i imported the messages but i can't see them  :(
[11:52] <live-cd> it still has all standard-folders in it ... but not my imported ones
[11:53] <jatt> I don't know man I have never imported data with outlook express I thought initially that you were referring to outlook for which evolution works
[11:53] <harovali> erUSUL: however, now it lists the mode , since i run 'xrandr --newmode "1024x768_85.00"   94.50  1024 1096 1200 1376  768 771 775 809 -hsync +vsync' and it didn't complain
[11:53] <progre55> Hi guys, how do you list your hard drives that are not mounted yet?
[11:53] <progre55> I'm installing ubuntu from a usb drive, but it cannot find my hd to partition..
[11:53] <live-cd> jatt: :) ... it's ok ... i'm just trying out a few things ... so don't worry
[11:54] <jatt> did you already try all things in that thread? like kmail?
[11:54] <live-cd> yep ... i tried kmail
[11:54] <karmel> jrib, I am trying to have software sound mixing on Ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10 -  with pulseaudio. My sound card doesn't support hardware mixing. I have tried to copy .pulse and .pulse-cookie from live-cd (where mixing works) but it didn't worked for me
[11:54] <live-cd> but i dunno why kmail doesn't display the messages jatt
[11:55] <jrib> karmel: you shouldn't have to do anything, especially if it worked on the live cd
[11:55] <live-cd> import was successfully according to kmail ... but messages don't show up
[11:57] <jatt> strange no idea dude maybe just try a virtual machine (VirtuaBox) and just run Outlook Express from the VM
[11:57] <harovali> erUSUL: changing 'VGA' with 'default' makes ' xrandr --addmode VGA 1024x768_85.00' work. But when I run 'xrandr --output default --mode 1024x768_85.00' I get  'xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed'
[11:57] <karmel> jrib, I know, but I have this issue from 9.04 - I can have only one source of sound, after upgrading to 10.10 it works on clean 10.10 livecd but doesn't on 10.04 upgraded to 10.10.  I don't think that clean installation would solve the problem
[11:58] <jrib> karmel: create a new user, does it work for him?
[11:58] <live-cd> jatt: :| ... will need some help to do this too ... but not now ... i want to try out a little more
[11:58] <jrib> karmel: and if you're on 10.10, you need to ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:58] <karmel> jrib, now I am on on 10.04
[12:00] <karmel> on new user there is something strange, because none of sound preferences dialog works (mixer, sound preferences etc) but sounds a mixed but I can't control volume
[12:00] <karmel> I think that works on alsa on new user
[12:02] <ericblair> I bought a dell inspiron 1525 with ubuntu installed about 2 years ago (fine but with some hardware problems - overheating etc) .. ok eventually no OS problems just hardware.  I have just upgraded to a dell 15R which I also ordered from dell -- they don't supply ubuntu so I got one with windows on it .... obliterated windows - I will get a refund.  I find that the new dell 15R is completely unuseable with ubuntu for the follo
[12:02] <jrib> karmel: well check for sure if he's using pulse or not
[12:02] <ericblair> ie. look at the forum post maybe posit solution
[12:03] <piyushmishra> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YujRncgaMN4&feature=player_embedded  I felt that you are more likely to know where a security bug lies when you know the source and the primary reason most cracking is done by reverse engineering is because the source wasnt available in the first place... am I wrong?
[12:05] <karmel> jrib, as I said - he works on ALSA
[12:05] <karmel> have checked a moment before
[12:05] <jrib> karmel: well that's certainly not default behavior right?  So why is he using alsa and not pulse?
[12:07] <karmel> Hmm, its a good question - will check it
[12:07] <karmel> thanks for your advice
[12:10] <andrewfree> basically apt-get broke my box and I'm goign to have to do a clean install to fix it. Is there a command to put the box back to "factory settings" like remove everything it didnt come with or do I have to do a clean install
[12:10] <jrib> andrewfree: how did apt-get break your box exactly?
[12:11] <andrewfree> while removing ffmpeg it decided that it should remove zoneminder at the same time, now I cant reconfigure zoneminder and all these packages and configs for it are broken
[12:12] <jrib> andrewfree: pastebin exactly what is happening.  "broken" is too vague for me to understand what is happening
[12:13] <live-cd> jatt: brb
[12:14] <andrewfree> jrib: There is nothing to show.. its just broke my zoneminder installing and I dont know how to reconfigure it and get it back. I can show you a a404 page
[12:14] <DDAZZA> Hi, Is the safest and recommended way to share files on a home network to install ssh on all the computers? If not what?
[12:14] <jrib> andrewfree: you said it broke your box, did you mean it broke only your zoneminder install?
[12:15] <andrewfree> jrib: Well thats all I used my box for so yes.
[12:15] <jrib> DDAZZA: just use samba (right click on a directory, share)
[12:15] <Stefanos90> pokerstars is working on ubuntu :)
[12:15] <bazhang> andrewfree, zoneminder installed from repos? or some outside 3rd party source
[12:15] <jrib> andrewfree: ok.  So why don't you just purge zoneminder and install it again?
[12:16] <andrewfree> bazhang: I got the newest build so I downloaded the .deb
[12:16] <bazhang> andrewfree, something outside package management then?
[12:16] <rapage> I want to know a good replacement to adobe flash and if it's faster then it.
[12:16] <andrewfree> well both  http://snapplr.com/j5c9 it doesnt install that way when I want
[12:17] <bazhang> rapage, there is none.
[12:17] <rapage> I want to know a good replacement to adobe flash and if it's faster then it, for the mozilla firefox ubuntu came with.
[12:17] <jrib> rapage: doesn't exist
[12:17] <rapage> what about swfdec
[12:17] <rapage> gnash
[12:17] <bazhang> rapage, there is none.
[12:17] <andrewfree> I got dkpg to say it installed, but then it wouldnt load because there is no config stuff so I tried to reconfigure with dpkg and it told me it wasnt install
[12:17] <andrewfree> so what the fuk
[12:17] <jrib> rapage: try it and see if it's good enough for you
[12:17] <jrib> !language | andrewfree
[12:17] <bazhang> andrewfree, language please
[12:17] <rapage> k
[12:17] <jrib> andrewfree: stop paraphrasing, pastebin commands and output
[12:18] <rapage> so what are those then gnash and swfdec
[12:18] <rapage> theyr'e swf players tou
[12:18] <Matteo1990>  Hi all, i have installed ubuntu on my pc with live cd and all worked fine. When i try to boot i get blanck screen (no signal on the tv). What can i do? I have removed the option quite and splash and i can see the loading message, the last one that i see is "begin running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done." What can i do?
[12:19] <rapage> what r 2
[12:20] <tball> Hi
[12:20] <zulax> i downloaded monace.ttf , how do i install it on ubuntu?
[12:20] <tball> Anybody experienced nautilus segementation faults lately on maverick?
[12:20] <zulax> its not there on synaptik for automatic install
[12:20] <andrewfree> jrib:  http://pastebin.com/0RwXxf1n
[12:20] <rapage> tball, do u know what is swfdec or gnash is that replace for monopoly adobe
[12:21] <bazhang> tball, #ubuntu+1 for that
[12:21] <Katsumi32> zulax, untar it there should be txt installation file
[12:21] <tball> bazhang, ?
[12:21] <bazhang> rapage, they are not. please dont ask again.
[12:21] <tball> rapage, uhm, yes
[12:21] <bazhang> tball, maverick issues in there
[12:21] <andrewfree> jrib though it wont load because I reinstalled all the dependencies trying to fix it and now its just broke. THats why I need to just wipe it but thats a huge pain considering my box has no cd drive.
[12:21] <jrib> andrewfree: zoneminder_1.24.2-1_i386.deb  is a file, not the name of a package
[12:21] <tball> bazhang, ahh okay. Thx
[12:21] <zulax> Katsumi32, its only a ttf file, not compressed
[12:22] <matteo1990>  Hi all, i have installed ubuntu on my pc with live cd and all worked fine. When i try to boot i get blanck screen (no signal on the tv). What can i do? I have removed the option quite and splash and i can see the loading message, the last one that i see is "begin running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done." What can i do?
[12:22] <andrewfree> jrib: either way didnt fix it http://pastebin.com/nHxVtbaJ
[12:22] <jrib> andrewfree: so it's installed, what's the issue?
[12:23] <andrewfree> Well for example when I purged mysql all the DB stuff is gone, when I installed zm for the first time it had me setup all this crap it if was working http://andrewfree.com:9876/zm would load.
[12:23] <jrib> andrewfree: did you purge zoneminder and install it again yet?
[12:24] <andrewfree> got it back up actually apache had to be force restarted
[12:24] <jrib> !away > MrPPS_Away
[12:24] <jrib> andrewfree: ok
[12:24] <andrewfree> I might change to debian
[12:25] <jrib> andrewfree: whatever you want.  Both use apt-get and apt-get tells you it will remove packages and asks for confirmation before doing it
[12:25] <andrewfree> or some other distro, idk why apt-get would remove zoneminder when I remote ffmpeg they are unrelated
[12:27] <tensorpudding> andrewfree: it might be that when you ran update most recently, it determined that zoneminder was an orphaned dependency?
[12:27] <ProfessorBacon> i might change my pants
[12:27] <bazhang> !ot | ProfessorBacon
[12:27] <tensorpudding> andrewfree: anyway, not sure why you'd go to debian over a problem with apt, since debian uses apt too
[12:28] <andrewfree> tensorpudding: have not done and update since I installed it
[12:28] <andrewfree> yea I realized that after I said it tensorpudding
[12:29] <matteo1990>  Hi all, i have installed ubuntu on my pc with live cd and all worked fine. When i try to boot i get blanck screen (no signal on the tv). What can i do? I have removed the option quite and splash and i can see the loading message, the last one that i see is "begin running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done." What can i do?
[12:31] <justine777w> Hello all...does anyone know how to install the dell 720 printer on ubuntu 9.10? I have tried all the forums and nothing seems to be working.
[12:31] <Adzy> can anyone help me un trying to update firmware for usb modem and keep getting this message
[12:31] <Adzy> sudo: b43-fwcutter: command not found
[12:33] <michal_> jrib: it didn't work. it was gone after restarting. is there any command to put it there in place for good?
[12:33] <ciupicri> how can I make a (sysv) service start when the computer powers up (runlevel 3)?
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> !sysv
[12:33] <michal_> jrib: right now i got: michal@BeyondPhysical:~$ gnome-panel
[12:33] <michal_> ** (gnome-panel:1488): CRITICAL **: panel_applet_frame_change_background: assertion `PANEL_IS_WIDGET (GTK_WIDGET (frame)->parent)' failed
[12:34] <bazhang> !runlevel > ciupicri
[12:34] <glebihan> Adzy: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> ciupicri:  its proberly easier to make a upstart  script to start it. see ones in /etc/init/
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> ciupicri:  sysv is slowly getting phased out. Upstartis the replacement.
[12:35] <ciupicri> Dr_Willis, bazhang : it's already written (it's ssh); I just want to setup it to start @runlevel 3
[12:35] <ciupicri> I want something like chkconfig or ntsysv from Red Hat
[12:35] <glebihan> justine777w: if I'm not mistaking, the Dell 720 is actually a Lexmark printer, which is unfortunately probably the most unsupported brand of printers under Linux
[12:36] <justine777w> glebihan: yes i understand, but many people have been able to install it, yet I seem to be missing something
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> ciupicri:  ubuntu dosent use runlevels like redhat does.
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> ciupicri:  by default basically everything is starting at runlevel 2 in any case.
[12:36] <glebihan> justine777w: you know people who managed to make it work ?
[12:36] <michal_> i can't enable taskbar, can anyone help?
[12:36] <ciupicri> Dr_Willis, ok; then in case I needed, how do I do the opposite, i.e. disable a service?
[12:37] <justine777w> glebihan: yes, i have read forums with people commenting that it was a success, yet when i try what they tried, I get error messages.
[12:37] <glebihan> justine777w: what error messages and while running what command ?£
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> ciupicri:  if its ran by Upstart.   you rename the proper /etc/init/whatever.conf file to be 'whatever.DONTRUN' or similer.
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> ciupicri:  if it still handled by the older sysv method. you can remove the script link from the proper /etc/rc# directory
[12:38] <justine777w> glebihan: here is one of the forums which i tried: http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215657
[12:38] <justine777w> and after i download redhat and try to untar it, i get an error message stating that it does not exist, not found.
[12:39] <ope> hi, last I installed Win7 on my brand new Intel SDD Postville. Win7 does boot fast. After than I installed Ubuntu 10.04.1 with Grub2 (1.98). Linux boost fast, but Win7 does require a multiple time as before. Before install all, the partitons are align with gparted 0.6.2 with 1 MiB alignment. sda1 -> win7, sda2 -> ubuntu, sda5 -> linux swap. Anyway, ayn ideas what happens here to win7 ?? Googling does show that I'm not the first with this problem, 
[12:40] <glebihan> justine777w: ok but what error do you get ? I might help identifying the issue
[12:40] <glebihan> justine777w: oh ok did not see the second message
[12:41] <ikonia> ericblair: you have been told to stop ranting about that, you'll need to file bugs to get the issues resolved
[12:41] <justine777w> glenihan: http://pastebin.com/hpRf7sdw
[12:41] <ericblair> i aint ranting
[12:41] <ikonia> ericblair: ubuntu 10.04 is supported, log a bug
[12:41] <ikonia> ericblair: people on irc are not going to fix core packages
[12:42] <ericblair> it isn't supported
[12:42] <ericblair> ok i will log a bug
[12:42] <ericblair> where
[12:42] <ikonia> ericblair: 10.04 isn't supported, of course it is
[12:42] <ericblair> well it doesn't work
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> !bug | ericblair
[12:42] <michal_> i can't enable taskbar. tired gnome-panel and got: ~$ gnome-panel
[12:42] <michal_>  ** (gnome-panel:1488): CRITICAL **: panel_applet_frame_change_background: assertion `PANEL_IS_WIDGET (GTK_WIDGET (frame)->parent)' failed
[12:43] <ericblair> ubuntu is unuseable on dell 15R - FACT - dell 15R is the standard cheapo dell laptop now
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> michal_:  tried resetting the gnome settings?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> !reset-panel
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[12:44] <risman> anyone installed kde 4.5.1?
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> poster child for 'how to not get help on irc' I guess? :)
[12:45] <rapage> guys what is a repository
[12:45] <justine777w> glebihan: http://pastebin.com/hpRf7sdw
[12:46] <rapage> can someone explain to me what is a repository
[12:46] <popey> !repo | rapage
[12:46] <glebihan> justine777w: yes I've seen, the problem is that you did not get the driver's file, I'm looking if I can find it somewhere, but the problem is that it's quite old
[12:47] <michal_> Dr_Willis: panel is gone.have to switch between windows using ctrl+tab
[12:47] <michal_> how to turn it on for good
[12:47] <justine777w> glebihan: oh okay. thank you. please let me know if you find anything
[12:47] <DarkStar1> lo ppl
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> michal_:  if its 'crashing' and not starting. resetting all the panel settings and restarting it may bring it back. also  you could try making a new user, and see if the panel works properly for them
[12:49] <craig-t> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server in a VirtualBox.. it loads the screen, but when I select "Install Unbuntu Server" it just freezes.
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> reset the panels, run 'gnome-panel' and see if it still crashes.
[12:49] <rapage> thanks popey
[12:50] <rapage> does anyone here knows why google-analticis cookies are everywhere? like on ubuntu help pages and sites like cookmyfood or bbb.org
[12:50] <rapage> isn't this a spy gov project
[12:50] <bazhang> offtopic rapage
[12:50] <risman> I installed kde 4.5.1 and the dolphin became crashy. I googled and saw a post that recommend to install newer dbus. so I downloaded dbus-1.4.1 tar file and installed it. now I have big problem and the message  was system_bus_socket: file not found.... anyone can help?
[12:52] <michal_> Dr_Willis: all was good, until i downloaded all the updates for ubuntu. i installed it yesterday and since then it's gone. i already did reset and "kill all" then it is gone so i have to turn it back on by"gnome-panel" cause i can't do anything.
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> michal_:  so you did the following command allready? --->   gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[12:53] <michal_> Dr_Willis: yes
[12:53] <risman> I installed kde 4.5.1 and the dolphin became crashy. I googled and saw a post that recommend to install newer dbus. so I downloaded dbus-1.4.1 tar file and installed it. now I have big problem and the message  was system_bus_socket: no file or directory.... anyone can help?
[12:54] <bazhang> risman, that sounds like #kubuntu issue
[12:54] <phlak_user> !kubuntu | risman
[12:54] <risman> omg
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> michal_:  try making a new user, and see if the issue also affects them.
[12:54] <unam3> any one got a opinion if it would be beneficial to run ubuntu 64 bit over 32 bit, on my AMD athlon 64 3400+ 2 GB RAM ATI Radeon ?
[12:55] <michal_> Dr_Willis:  but why this? ** (gnome-panel:1488): CRITICAL **: panel_applet_frame_change_background: assertion `PANEL_IS_WIDGET (GTK_WIDGET (frame)->parent)' failed
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> risman:  given how much youve modified things.. the forums may be the best bet
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> michal_:  no idea.
[12:55] <risman> ok
[12:55] <michal_> Dr_Willis: all the icons are gone from my screen, i'm lunching aplications through searching them in the system
[12:56] <ghostoyo> #ubuntufr
[12:56] <industrial> My Copy Dialogue is stuck right now on 2 jobs trying to copy over files to a gnome places SSH mount (~/.gvfs/*). How do I stop the move process? xkill doesnt work on the window (sorry, had to try :P)
[12:56] <michal_> Dr_Willis: i don't even have an option to add a new user 'cause no icons.
[12:57] <awk> hi, hmm.. I have made allot of changes to my ubuntu gnome look.. where can I look at adding show desktop to the top panel ?
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> michal_:  'sudo adduser billgates'  to add username billgates
[12:57] <justine777w> glebihan: could this help? http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> michal_:  if a newly made user works properly. then that points to a '
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> michal_:  if a newly made user works properly. then that points to a 'setting' issue with the problem user.. if both have issues.. then theres some sort of bug/problem in the system.
[12:59] <unam3> any one got a opinion if it would be beneficial to run ubuntu 64 bit over 32 bit, on my AMD athlon 64 3400+ 2 GB RAM ATI Radeon ?
[12:59] <Poul|Raider> Hello, im looking into my /var/log/message file, and its beeing populated quite fast with lines like -> is this normal
[12:59] <Poul|Raider> Sep 13 06:54:04 access dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.61 from 00:15:5d:00:64:01 (WINDOWS2008R2) via eth0
[12:59] <Poul|Raider> Sep 13 06:54:04 access dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.0.61 to 00:15:5d:00:64:01 (WINDOWS2008R2) via eth0
[12:59] <Poul|Raider> Sep 13 06:54:20 access kernel: [53649.903036] martian source 82.211.213.106 from 192.168.0.1, on dev eth1
[12:59] <FloodBot4> Poul|Raider: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> unam3:  encoding and other math intensive tasks can gain a speed boost.
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> unam3:  i use 64bit on all my machines that can do 64bit.
[13:00] <B|ackPanther> Hi , anybody getting this error http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/98bR36s6 when compiling a .cpp file with g++ ?
[13:00] <Raptors> does gnome mplayer have hardware acceleration?
[13:00] <phlak_user> Poul|Raider: looks like your dhcp server is renewing your ip too quickly
[13:00] <unam3> just what im looking for :-D thx so much bye :-D
[13:00] <B|ackPanther> the cpp file contains a static function.
[13:01] <phlak_user> B|ackPanther: did you declare the function before you used it?
[13:01] <Poul|Raider> phlak_user, remember where the config file from dhcp settings are ?
[13:02] <harovali> hi , how can I install the propietary VIA video drivers ? openchrome doesn't do with my hardware
[13:02] <phlak_user> Poul|Raider: /etc/dhcp3/
[13:02] <Katsumi32> harovali, what card do you have?
[13:03] <B|ackPanther> phlak_user: the function is properly declared, i only get the error when i try calling the function like ClassName::function .
[13:03] <phlak_user> B|ackPanther: this is out of the scope of this channel (only Ubuntu Support). please check the c++ channels
[13:03] <Emanon> hey all, so my system crashed dont know why don't really care, just need to mount my encrypted home folder and back the stuff in it up before i reinstall i have the encrypted lvm it's on mounted just fine but the ecryptfs-mount-private utility seems to be foiling me, any ideas?
[13:04] <harovali> Katsumi32: BoardName   "P4M890 [S3 UniChrome Pro]"
[13:04] <Kartagis> I have the line for s in *.srt; do iconv -f ISO-8859-9 -t UTF-8 "$s" --output "$s";done which gives me a bunch of Bus errors. why is that?
[13:05] <Katsumi32> harovali, go to system adminisration hardware drivers and activate any drivers you see there
[13:05] <Emanon> for details, i issue the mount command but it says it isnt setup properly so i assume im using the wrong syntax for the command anyone familiar enough to walk me through it?
[13:05] <harovali> Katsumi32: I went there. The boxes appear blank after the scanning
[13:06] <Katsumi32> harovali,  so everything is installed
[13:06] <Katsumi32> harovali, do you have any problems with video?
[13:07] <phlak_user> Emanon: whats the command you're issuing?
[13:07] <harovali> Katsumi32: yes, the 1024x800 mode can't be set
[13:07] <Emanon> phlak_user: ecryptfs-mount-private
[13:07] <harovali> Katsumi32: or the 1024x768 either
[13:07] <Emanon> to mount an encrypted home directory in an encrypted lvm2 partition
[13:08] <phlak_user> Emanon: the complete one with the errors (pastebinit)
[13:08] <Katsumi32> harovali, does your card support 1024x768 at all ?
[13:08] <harovali> Katsumi32: no xrandr operation works
[13:08] <Emanon> k
[13:08] <harovali> Katsumi32: yes
[13:08] <Emanon> http://pastebin.com/nmjgCDXy phlak_user
[13:09] <Katsumi32> harovali,  u have some dont even know what card it is its buid in you use open source driver which maybe doesnt work perfectly with your card if its pc i would upgrade graphic card
[13:09] <harovali> Katsumi32: in fact, it did work months ago , but somewhere in time it stopped working. I upgraded to ubuntu 10.04 , expecting a better driver management , but everything goes the same as in 9.10
[13:10] <harovali> Katsumi32: I wasn't able to understand that phrase
[13:10] <Katsumi32> harovali, can you type in termianl dmesg and past it http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[13:10] <harovali> Katsumi32: sure
[13:10] <miyamoto> can any one give me the tutorials of wifi password cracking
[13:10] <joe_ubu_user> ubuntu 10.04 -- how do I get rid of these pop up info window things? see screenshot example at http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/756/screenshot1ev.png
[13:11] <bazhang> miyamoto, wrong network
[13:11] <Katsumi32> miyamoto, your ip adress has been reported
[13:11] <AceKing> I just installed "secure-delete" from the repository but I can't figure out how to use it. Does anyone know how to use this program?
[13:11] <harovali> Katsumi32: please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/493611/
[13:11] <phlak_user> Emanon: ok, you havent setup your ecryptfs properly
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> joe_ubu_user:  those are the notify dialogs.. if you dont like them.. well.. basically dont run gnome/ubuntu i guess.. you could try some other windowmanager/desktop such as xfce/xubuntu/kde/kubuntu/lubuntu
[13:12] <Emanon> so do i have any options to access the data in that directory phlak_user?
[13:12] <phlak_user> Emanon: you need to run ecryptfs-setup-private first
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> joe_ubu_user:  theres some extra ppa/repo/hacks out that let you tweak the look some.  but ive not used them.
[13:12] <Emanon> will that destroy any of the data in it do you know phlak_user?
[13:13] <harovali> Katsumi32: here is Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/493613/
[13:13] <Emanon> or you could just uninstall the notification popup package
[13:13] <Emanon> just saying
[13:13] <Katsumi32> harovali, onesec
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> Emanon:  that may cause other issues...  never tried.. i rarely consider the things a problem.
[13:13] <phlak_user> Emanon: and then run the mount command
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> joe_ubu_user:  my IRC client even pops up one up for me when you just msg'd me :)  the things are handy
[13:14] <phoenix__> is pulse audio good or bad
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> phoenix__:  its a sound server that runs on top of alsa.. it 'is'  - i have no issues with it. and it has some nice features
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> joe_ubu_user:  no need to msg me.. and as i mentioned theres some tools/hacks out to tweak the look of them. check the OMGubuntu web site or the webupd8 web site. i saw them at one of those sites I think
[13:15] <joe_ubu_user> ok
[13:15] <phoenix__> Dr_Willis: does it support ladspa filters well
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> joe_ubu_user:  but any updates may break the hacks.. so good luck
[13:15] <phlak_user> Emanon: are you trying to mount the encrypted fs by booting from livecd etc?
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> phoenix__:  no idea that ladspa even is.
[13:15] <Emanon> yes
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> phoenix__:  check the Pulseaudio homepage/forums i guess.
[13:16] <joe_ubu_user> oh.  ok, i'll see what i can find. thanks
[13:16] <phlak_user> Emanon: ah; thats why it cant locate your other Private folder
[13:16] <Emanon> thus my consternation cause i have NO other way to access it atm
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> joe_ubu_user:  even my Firefox pops up a msg there to tell me downloads are done. :)
[13:16] <Katsumi32> harovali, no errors there so it should work can you try to go to system preferences monitors and try to change resolution there ?
[13:16] <phlak_user> Emanon: i dont know if this will work, but you could chroot into the old home on the harddisk
[13:17] <Emanon> tried it
[13:17] <phlak_user> Emanon: and then run the mount
[13:17] <phoenix__> Dr_Willis: thanks for the info
[13:17] <joe_ubu_user> i figured out how to turn that one off (in about:config)
[13:17] <phlak_user> Emanon: did you try this --> http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/03/mounting-your-encrypted-home-from.html
[13:17] <Emanon> i can access the home folder but all it has in it is the readme telling me to run ecryptfs-mount-private from terminal and the shortcut to do it from graphical
[13:17] <Emanon> no i havent ill try
[13:18] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:20] <EMPulse> hey guys
[13:20] <EMPulse> does anyone know how to change the default sounds in empathy?
[13:23] <justine777w> glebihan: i am guessing that this is an unsolvable problem?
[13:23] <harovali> Katsumi32: there the only available options are low resolution ones (800x600 or lower)
[13:24] <Emanon> nope phlak_user
[13:25] <harovali> Katsumi32: I cant't understand why the "activate" button in the drivers window appears disabled. Is there a trick to activate it ?
[13:26] <Katsumi32> harovali, so there is som problem dont know with what really. u use OS driver for your graphic in xorg i see your default is 800x600 but you should be able to change resolution
[13:26] <cptblod> i used the propieraty nvidia driver in ubuntu 10.4.1 but i cannot get vdpau to work, what do i need to do?
[13:27] <mapet> Can anyone tell me how I can add a custom version string to my kernel build, if I compile the official kernel with "debian/rules binary-generics"? I don't want it to be overwritten on each apt-get upgrade...
[13:27] <Katsumi32> vdpau work only with gnome mplayer as far as i know
[13:27] <industrial> My Copy Dialogue is stuck right now on 2 jobs trying to copy over files to a gnome places SSH mount (~/.gvfs/*). How do I stop the move process? xkill doesnt work on the window (sorry, had to try :P)
[13:27] <BluesKaj> cptblod,did you try the nvidia-current driver ?
[13:27] <coffee412> After a fresh install of version 10.04 I get caught in a login loop. Just recycles back to login menu. No error message. Anyone ran into this or knows what is causing it and /or solution???
[13:27] <industrial> its making my fan go wild
[13:27] <industrial> I cannot reboot
[13:28] <meatbun> so i install pdfedit, how to type something in there? is there a manual? i want to fill out this form
[13:28] <industrial> fuck it, killing nautilus then :
[13:28] <industrial> :|
[13:28] <cptblod> BluesKaj: yeah, with that driver, i cannot start xbmc, says it needs opengl
[13:28] <glebihan> justine777w: didn't you see the link I sent you earlier ?
[13:28] <bazhang> industrial, language please
[13:28] <justine777w> glebihan: no i am sorry. I did not. Please send again
[13:28] <BluesKaj> cptblod, which nvidia card ?
[13:28] <glebihan> justine777w: http://www.downloaddelivery.com/downloads/cpd/CJLZ600LE-CUPS-1.0-1.TAR.gz
[13:28] <Emanon> u still there phlak_user?
[13:28] <Katsumi32> harovali, you can try to upgrade kernel maybe it will help u have 10.04 ubuntu and probably 2.6.32 go for 2.6.35  there is 2.6.35 for lucid
[13:29] <harovali> Katsumi32: I'll try
[13:29] <falz> morning, long time debian desktop user here trying ubuntu. I want to use thunderbird2 but it's not in repo, using the official mozilla binary is looking for libstdc++.so.5 but ubuntu (10.10 beta) only has libstdc++.so.6. I don't see a compat type of package in apt-get, any clean fix?
[13:29] <Forked> hello
[13:29] <Forked> anyone can help me?
[13:29] <justine777w> glebihan: okay so the gzip archive for this popped up...click open with archive manager (default)?
[13:30] <Forked> I need to start a IRC server using ubuntu 10
[13:30] <Forked> but when I try to run the bash comand
[13:30] <Forked> I get that
[13:30] <glebihan> justine777w: no save it and then follow instructions you found on the forum
[13:30] <Forked> [root@noname ~]# sudo apt-get install ircd-hybrid
[13:30] <Forked> sudo: apt-get: command not found
[13:30] <cptblod> BluesKaj: nvidia ion 2
[13:30] <justine777w> glebihan: should i delete the other one from my home folder first?
[13:31] <glebihan> justine777w: as you wish
[13:31] <Forked> justin777w: can ou help me?
[13:31] <coffee412> forked: Try sudo apt-get install or full path to apt-get (/sbin/apt-get?)
[13:31] <Emanon> fine afk a bit while i light my house on fire
[13:31] <justine777w> glebihan: just highlight and delete?
[13:31] <Forked> -bash: apt-get: command not found
[13:31] <glebihan> justine777w: yes
[13:31] <Forked> coffee421 get that
[13:31] <justine777w> forked: with what? I am not too good with all of this.
[13:31] <Pici> Forked: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[13:32] <Forked> 10, 32bit
[13:32] <justine777w> forked: 9.10
[13:32] <erUSUL> falz: #ubuntu+1
[13:32] <coffee412> Does anyone know anything about the login loop problem? Login window appears, click login name, enter password and login screen refreshes asking me to login.??
[13:32] <Forked> justin777w: this is fine?  	 Ubuntu 9.04 32bit
[13:32] <cptblod> BluesKaj: also, the plymouth bootscreen gets low-graphics, like 8-bit or somethin
[13:32] <falz> erUSUL: thanks
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> coffee412:  i saw that issue the other day.. then it vanished...
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> coffee412:  i dont have the problem any more. Not sure what fixed/broke it/fixed it again
[13:33] <coffee412> Dr_Willis: I wish I could find more info on it. One post illuded to a graphics driver problem and others say its a gdm problem. No solution I can find.
[13:34] <justine777w> glebihan: same error message..
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> coffee412:  i dont see how it could be a gxf driver issue..   i also had the issue in 10.10 but its gone there also.
[13:34] <glebihan> justine777w: did you type the filename correctly and from the right folde
[13:34] <WorkWork> hey, someone here who know the default password for the scalix user sxadmin?
[13:35] <coffee412> Dr_Willis: Perhaps an update will fix the problem if I can get in - in text mode?
[13:35] <justine777w> glebihan: where did the file save to and what command do i use? I am confused.
[13:35] <Forked> justin777w: can u answer me?
[13:35] <glebihan> justine777w: well only you can know where you saved the file...
[13:35] <justine777w> forked: i am sorry but I do not know what you are talking about.
[13:35] <Forked> I've install ubuntu 9.08
[13:35] <justine777w> glebihan: it just said save file. did not speciify where
[13:36] <Forked> now I am trying to install IRC Server using hybserv
[13:36] <bazhang> Forked, there is no such version
[13:36] <coffee412> Dr_Willis: Is 10.10 stable ? I want to install for a customer. Right now I tried 10.04.
[13:36] <cptblod> anyone else who knows how to get nvidia drivers installed for ubuntu 10.4.1? tried activating nvidia 195.x from within ubuntu (propieraty drivers) they got activated, but i dont have vdpau support
[13:36] <glebihan> justine777w: well then it must have been saved in the default folder of your browser, check that in the preferences
[13:36] <justine777w> glebihan: i found it under downloads. Put in home folder?
[13:37] <glebihan> justine777w: no need to, just run the commands indicated on the forum from the folder where the file is
[13:37] <Izinucs> coffee412: 10.04 is LTS.. support for 3 years on the desktop and 5 on the server. 10.10 is beta and when out will have 18 months support
[13:37] <coffee412> Izinucus: Thank you.
[13:37] <justine777w> glebihan: i do not know how to do all this. It is in my home folder now. I can try again, but like I said before I am not sure what the exact command should be
[13:38] <Pici> Forked: What does running    lsb_release -a    report?
[13:38] <pshr> hello every one One of the key in my keyboard (right directional key) is not function Is it possible to reconfigure that key to some other key ?
[13:38] <justine777w> glebihan: i think it might be working, not sure, but something other than an error resulted.
[13:38] <BluesKaj> cptblod, according to my package manager your Ion2 reqiures the nvidia-96 driver for openGL option
[13:38] <glebihan> justine777w: ie ?
[13:39] <justine777w> glebihan: what?
[13:39] <Forked> Pici: No LSB modules are available.
[13:39] <glebihan> justine777w: what did you get ?
[13:39] <Karen_m> I installed gDesklets, and when running it... applications->accessories->gDesklets  ... I see on the bottom task bar "starting gdesklets..." a few seconds later it disappears and nothing opens.   No debug lines in /var/log/*, anyone know what is up?
[13:39] <cptblod> BluesKaj: ok, so sudo apt-get install nvidia-96 ?
[13:40] <justine777w> glebihan: http://pastebin.com/xaXgQ3iY
[13:40] <Emanon> so i'm SOL? or do i just have to insult linux so everyone will help me to defend the penguins honor?
[13:40] <cptblod> also wierd that the plymout bootscreen gets very low gfx mode
[13:40] <glebihan> justine777w: looks good, run the next commands
[13:40] <meowa> why is 'events/1' u0 t 50 %?
[13:40] <meowa> the cpu spikes
[13:41] <meowa> what is events/1 ?
[13:41] <WorkWork> hey, someone here who know the default password for the scalix user sxadmin?
[13:41] <meowa> i check top
[13:41] <Izinucs> Emanon: what's the question?
[13:41] <meowa> 80% now
[13:41] <meowa>  :(
[13:41] <meowa> server is dying
[13:41] <Emanon> i can't boot my system, i'm in a live disk, i have the encrypted system mounted now i need to mount the encrypted home directory
[13:42] <Emanon> and ecryptfs refuse to do so
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> WorkWork:  thats not really Ubuntu related now is it?
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> cptblod:  nvidia and plymouth like to fight with each other
[13:42] <WorkWork> it doesnt work realy good but maybe someone just using it on a other system and know it :P
[13:43] <IntuitiveNipple> Lucid, OpenOffice trying to print Duplex prints to single pages. Duplexing enabled and selected in options. Spool files shows PS file in spool directory disables Duplex. Any ideas?
[13:43] <bazhang> WorkWork, try in ##linux
[13:43] <Izinucs> Emanon: sorry that one is beyond me.. people come and go in here.. wait a while and try again.. usually in a couple of hours there's a "shift" change as some go to bed and others come online.
[13:44] <justine777w> glebihan: okay everything seemed to go well in terminal. can you please help me with this: Once you have ran them through alien, you will find nice little .deb  packages in the folder you downloaded everything in. First install the  pddk (Printer development kit) then install the CUPS driver.
[13:44] <glebihan> justine777w: to install the deb packages, just double-click on them, it will open the package installer tool
[13:44] <pshr> hello every one One of the key in my keyboard (right directional key) is not function Is it possible to reconfigure that key to some other key ?
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> justine777w:  or via command line 'sudo gdebi whatever.deb' (is one way)
[13:45] <jellow> need help installing java , I get rpm ran alien -k java.rpm then installed the .deb file , Then i created a link from /usr/lib/firefox/pulgins the the java.so , However firefox still does not pick it up?
[13:45] <justine777w> glebihan: where are these little .deb packages?
[13:45] <cptblod> Dr_Willis: that's bad :( looks like shit atm
[13:45] <cptblod> no workaround?
[13:45] <bazhang> jellow, that is not the way to do it; enable partner repo for that
[13:45] <bazhang> !partner | jellow
[13:45] <glebihan> justine777w: they should be in your home directory
[13:45] <bazhang> !java > jellow
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> cptblod:  never noticed or tried... it boots so fast. i rarely see it
[13:46] <jellow> bazhang: I don't want the one from repo it's old
[13:46] <erUSUL> jellow: first uninstall the alinized package
[13:46] <bazhang> jellow, you dont want some rpm either
[13:46] <stercor> What is the name of the screensave that solves a maze?
[13:46] <jellow> bazhang: but i converted it to .deb
[13:46] <bazhang> jellow, that is explicitly not supported
[13:46] <Bown> I am having problems with neighbors trying M-I-M attacks and setting rouge APs. what are my options in regards to setting up my wireless more securely? I have googles but the are all just basic solutions that I have already implimented. Any help is much appreciated
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> installing sun java from a deb converted rpm? thats scary
[13:47] <erUSUL> !alien | jellow
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> jellow:  tell us why you are doing all this?
[13:47] <bazhang> Bown, try ##networking
[13:47] <pshr> hello every one One of the key in my keyboard (right directional key) is not function Is it possible to reconfigure that key to some other key ?
[13:47] <justine777w> glebihan: i think i found it
[13:47] <VCoolio> pshr: try something like this http://robdc.com/node/10
[13:47] <jellow> Dr_Willis: I want the lastest version to play minecraft (game that uses java heavly)
[13:47] <glebihan> justine777w: ok then install the packages
[13:48] <bazhang> Dr_Willis, he wants a newer version
[13:48] <pshr> ok VCoolio thanks
[13:48] <Bown> bazhang, thanks
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> jellow:  the latest sun java?   Theres proerly some ppa's for it. Ive not found many things that dont work with the java in the partners repo. or the icedtea java versions.. (not found any actually)
[13:48] <justine777w> glebihan: i just installed the CUPS printer driver, but i do not think i installed the pddk
[13:48] <erUSUL> !info sun-java6-plugin
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> jellow:  ppa's would be the best bet i imagine
[13:49] <glebihan> justine777w: what's pddk ?
[13:49] <bazhang> erUSUL, not sure if partner stuff is in ubottu database
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> what version of java is in the partners repo anyway? Im using icedtea
[13:49] <glebihan> justine777w: if you have several packages, install all of them
[13:49] <erUSUL> bazhang: apprently is not ;P
[13:49] <justine777w> glebihan: Printer development kit. i should install the .deb one not the .rpm one?
[13:50] <glebihan> justine777w: yes install the deb one
[13:50] <Emanon> well thanks for nothing everyone guess i lose my data this sucks
[13:50] <Pici> Dr_Willis: 6.20dlj
[13:50]  * Dr_Willis sends emanon the bill.
[13:50] <justine777w> glebihan: installing now
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> One reason to not go berzerk with encrypted filesystems.. and a nother lesson in keeping proper backups.
[13:51] <philinux> Dr_Willis: sun-java6 in partner repo is version 6.20
[13:51] <erUSUL> and last aviable version is 6.21
[13:52] <cptblod> Dr_Willis / BluesKaj: i tried installing nvidia-96 drivers, but the system says they are activated, but not in use? how to fix that?
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> a big .01 differance. :) heh
[13:52] <Kritoslap> Hello, does someone use ati open source drivers on a ati hd 4330?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> cptblod, you must remove the old driver first with X turned off , this is the procedure , http://pastebin.com/iQ8hxZdg
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> cptblod:  can you run 'nvidia-settings' ?
[13:52] <m8> Salve,
[13:52] <m8> al boot di ubuntu al solito controllo degli errori...
[13:52] <m8> mi dice che sono stati trovati degli errori
[13:53] <BluesKaj> !it | m8
[13:53] <m8> Premere I per ignorare, m per entrare nella consolle, ma quale tasto per correggere gli errori? non si vede :|
[13:53] <glebihan> !it | m8
[13:53] <bazhang> m8 english here #ubuntu-it for italian
[13:53] <m8> ops!
[13:53] <m8> sorry :|
[13:53] <Kritoslap> !italian | m8
[13:53] <m8> ok!
[13:53] <cptblod> i did sudo apt-get remove nvidia* in recovery mode first and then installed and then rebooted BluesKaj
[13:53] <cptblod> Dr_Willis: will try after this reboot
[13:53] <m8> excuse me!
[13:53] <Kritoslap> m8,  Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[13:53] <m8> Kritoslap, e daje..
[13:54] <cptblod> Dr_Willis: nvidia-settings says im not using the NVIDIA X driver
[13:54] <BluesKaj> cpt nope you have to be at atty with gdm turned off , otherwise the old driver is still being used and can't be removed
[13:54] <cptblod> atty?
[13:54] <cptblod> ctrl+alt+f1 > sudo service gdm stop ?
[13:54] <m8> !it | m8
[13:54] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:55] <cptblod> kk
[13:55] <BluesKaj> cptblod, yes
[13:55] <cptblod> and then sudo apt-get remove nvidia ?
[13:55] <cptblod> nvidia*
[13:55] <jellow> Where is the best place to find PPA?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> cptblod, whtever the driver is named
[13:55] <IntuitiveNipple> Lucid, OpenOffice trying to print Duplex prints to single pages. Duplexing enabled and selected in options. Spool files shows PS file in spool directory disables Duplex. Any ideas?
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> jellow:  theres a 'ppa-search' tool out.. google for the ppa for it. :)
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> jellow:  most of the time i use Ubuntu-tweak it has most of the ppa's i ever need included in its settings
[13:57] <jellow> Dr_Willis: I see what you did there ;) , I'll have a look thanks
[13:57] <cptblod> BluesKaj: should i install new drivers when gdm isnt runnin too?
[13:57] <philinux> jellow: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> jellow:  with what? there is a 'ppa-search' tool.. but i rarely use it.
[13:58] <jellow> java still
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> The Software center tool may get some ppa search feature.. but theres getting to be so many PPA's its getting chaotic.
[13:58] <jhattara> quick shell scripting related question: if i call another shell script within a script with & (run in background) can the original script continue processing and terminate itself before the child has executed itself ?
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> jhattara:  yes it can. (try making a test case that uses sleep )
[13:59] <BluesKaj> cptblod, yes install the new drivers with gdm turned off
[13:59] <cptblod> ok, will do BluesKaj
[13:59] <phlak_user> Emanon: i am now
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> jhattara:  the parent might 'pause' untill the child is done befor it toally exists..(but i dont think so) .. but it will keep going after the child launches..
[14:00] <cptblod> BluesKaj: reboot needed afterwards, or only restarting gdm?
[14:00] <jellow> will the world end if i user a PPA that's not intended for my ubuntu version?
[14:01] <bazhang> !ppa | jellow
[14:01] <BluesKaj> just restart gdm , then reboot , if you wish, cptblod ...reboot is probly best
[14:01] <Tiders> What music player is included with Ubuntu
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> jellow:  it might not install.
[14:01] <bazhang> jellow, any PPA is risky. especially for such a small version difference, its silly to use
[14:02] <cptblod> started gdm then rebooted, crossing fingers
[14:02] <cptblod> same low gfx for plymouth at least.. :/
[14:03] <cptblod> video mode not supported when starting ubuntu.... :S
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> cptblod:  plymouth is not a good test one way or the other.. :)
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> cptblod:  do you have an old xorg.conf still in /etc/X11/ ?
[14:03] <Roland> how to disable the pop up when inserting a memory card?
[14:04] <willinja> where can i find virtualbox image for a fully configured ubuntu server 64 ?
[14:04] <justine777w> glebihan: it installed and tried to print a test page and got this message from troubleshooting: /usr/lib/cups/filter/raster
[14:04] <cptblod> maybe, how can i tell?
[14:04] <cptblod> @ Dr_Willis
[14:05] <qattusverse> Hi all, in Rhythmbox how do I tell it to rescan a cd for titles? when I first put it in I wasn't connected to the net
[14:05] <justine777w> glebihan: sorry didnt finish the error message it said:  /usr/lib/cups/filter/rasteroz600 failed
[14:06] <Forked> Need help how can I solve that: E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> cptblod:   look in /etc/X11 for a xorg.conf file :)
[14:06] <Forked> when I try to install ircd-hybserv
[14:06] <BluesKaj> cptblod, did you run sudo nvidia-xconfig, before rebooting..it's pasrt of the required procedure
[14:06] <qattusverse> or is there a better channel for Rhythmbox?
[14:07] <cptblod> no, u didnt tell me to do that
[14:08] <jellow> how can i un-install a .bin?
[14:08] <icesword> holy he asks me how much is 4+5
[14:08] <nettezzaumana> hi there
[14:08] <jhattara> Dr_Willis, found out how: nohup child.sh & appears to be working as intended
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> jellow:  well if its done right. you rerun it and it asks to uninstall it.. otherwise.. well - hope it isntalled to /opt/ or somthing
[14:08] <cptblod> sudo nvidia-xconfig : command not found
[14:08] <St00r> I updated my server (yes I know it was dumb!) and now IP's outside the network can't contact with my server. How can I fix this? :( Version: Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS \n \l
[14:09] <nettezzaumana> http://fpaste.org/Of4B << how can i terminate session 3 and 4 ?? i can't find it with sure between processes
[14:09] <sta11> how can I uninstall package that I installed via ./configure;make;make install ?
[14:09] <cptblod> someone's oughta write a script for installing nvidia drivers in 10.4
[14:09] <St00r> The iptables seems fnie..
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> sta11:  if you are lucky 'sudo make uninstall' in the source directory where you did those commands
[14:09] <nettezzaumana> sta11: make uninstall ## if the Makefile supports it
[14:09] <icesword> what happens if my calculating is poor? if my answer is 8 for 4+5
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> cptblod:  the little hardware-drivers tool works for my 3 nvidia machines.
[14:10] <qattusverse> anyone here use Rhythmbox?
[14:10] <sta11> omg, I removed the directory
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> icesword:  i never have figured it out what that bot does.. i answer wrong.. i still get in here. :) I  do think part of the issue is the services identify me slower then i can join. :)
[14:10] <cptblod> Dr_Willis: mm, doesnt enable vdpau here at least, hence why i try to get new drivers... also removed nouveau driver
[14:10] <Tiders> What is the name of that one music player with the dog emblem,..
[14:11] <cptblod> thinking of going back to 9.04, never had this much problems with that dist
[14:11] <jpds> Tiders: amarok?
[14:11] <craig-t> my screen keeps going blank when I try install ubuntu 10.04 server edition.. any ideas why?
[14:11] <icesword> lol
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> cptblod:  vdpau is a bit of a new cutting edge thing. :) I only recently got a card that even supports it.
[14:11] <Tiders> jpds: THANK YOU lol
[14:11] <Tiders> jpds: Been trying to remember the name
[14:12] <glebihan> justine777w: seems to be a common error with this printer, haven't found a solution yet, I'll let you know if I do
[14:13] <St00r> I updated my server (yes I know it was dumb!) and now IP's outside the network can't contact with my server. How can I fix this? Version: Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS \n \l - And the iptables and hosts.deny is checked and fine..
[14:13] <sta11> Dr_Willis: I removed the directory, how stupid I am, then what can I do? reinstalling it with the same steps?
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> sta11:  guess so..
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> sta11:  one of the many reasons people use a package manager system. :)
[14:14] <c3l> St00r: do an nmap scan in the range that the ip can be for your ssh port :)
[14:15] <adac> as root...hwo can I become an other user in terminal
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> adac:  'su' command.
[14:15] <adac> wasn't is sudo su otheruser
[14:15] <Forked> root@noname:~# tar zxvf Unreal3.2.3.tar.gz.1
[14:15] <Forked> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[14:15] <Forked> tar: Child returned status 1
[14:15] <Forked> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[14:15] <FloodBot4> Forked: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:15] <Forked> give me error when I try to unzip a tar
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> adac:  if you are root allready. you dont need sudo.   depends on what you are wanting to do exactly
[14:15] <pradeep> anyone installed linux mce
[14:16] <willinja> pradeep, i'm going to download the virtualbox img first :D
[14:16] <philinux> Forked: Use nautilus, right click file then "Extract Here"
[14:16] <adac> Dr_Willis, yeah without sudo then! su OTERUSER
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  it proberly has its own disrto support channel. If thats a ubuntu variant.
[14:16] <adac> ^^ that shold work, shouldn't it?
[14:16] <Forked> philinux: I use VPS not computer with ubuntu
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> adac:  yep. see 'su --help'
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> Forked:  you sure the files not currupted. whats with the .1 at the end?
[14:19] <theyranos> is there any way to change the X11 keyboard vairant from an ssh shell? The XKBVARIANT variable in /etc/default/console-setup doesn't appear to work.
[14:19] <St00r> c3l: Didn't really have something to do with my problem, but thanks anyway
[14:20] <sta11> Dr_Willis: sure :) I'm just too curious about newest things but not well prepared with the bugs hehehe
[14:20] <St00r> I updated my server (yes I know it was dumb!) and now IP's outside the network can't contact with my server. How can I fix this? Version: Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS \n \l - And the iptables and hosts.deny is checked and fine..
[14:21] <c3l> St00r: sorry, I misunderstood
[14:22] <theyranos> St00r: Could the installation have messed up your routing tables? route -n to check that the correct IP is listed as your gateway for 0.0.0.0
[14:24] <guitar-maniac> Hey! I cant turn off my ubuntu? And my sounds are gone too :O Just started my pc this morning and couldnt shut it down anymore..
[14:25] <TheScifi> is it possible to modify the grub:s arguments so that you will not load x-server at all? i just have some issues with nvidia configurating my xorg.conf so that i wont have any output to my screen after the boot..
[14:26] <jrib> TheScifi: use recovery mode
[14:26] <guitar-maniac> I cant seem to connect any USB devices either, says its not authorized
[14:27] <Kritoslap> Is there a way to show the normal screen and not the ubuntu screen while booting?
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> TheScifi:  the 'text' option does just that..  No Plymouth, no framebuffer, no GDM (no X)
[14:27] <TasMan> how to ssh in windows machine?
[14:27] <jrib> TasMan: putty
[14:27] <Kritoslap> TasMan,  Use putty
[14:27] <AnthLee> kristoslap there is a way to get text boot but its annoying
[14:27] <St00r> theyranos: They look good.. nothing wrong there.
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> TasMan:   you mean ssh TO a windows box? or FROM a windows box?
[14:27] <Kritoslap> AnthLee,  I haven't found a guide on Google...
[14:28] <TheScifi> jrib: its the same issue with that, eerything disapears after "running scripts/init/bottom / DONE"
[14:28] <jellow> the wiki on installing java is wrong , tells the user to install to a dir that firefox does not use.
[14:28] <iflema> !nox | Kritoslap
[14:28] <jrib> TheScifi: you're choosing to just drop to a root shell?
[14:28] <Kritoslap> iflema,  Thanks
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> AnthLee:  edit grub menu, alter one line, add 'text' to the end..
[14:28] <kahlb> guitar-maniac: did you try shutting down with "sudo halt"?
[14:28] <theyranos> St00r: next thing to check would be sudo iptables -L
[14:28] <TasMan> Dr_Willis, to windows box.
[14:28] <Ian_corne> If my computer hangs when shutting down, where should I look?
[14:28] <jrib> TasMan: ask ##windows
[14:28] <AnthLee> that bypasses plymouth?
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> TasMan:  then you nees some sort of SSH server On the box..
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> AnthLee:  yes..
[14:28] <maedox> TasMan: You need Cygwin
[14:28] <AnthLee> I did it a different way I set timeout on plymouth to 0
[14:28] <TasMan> eh.. jrib but i need to ssh from ubuntu
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> AnthLee: :  the 'text' option does just that..  No Plymouth, no framebuffer, no GDM (no X)
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> AnthLee:  and ive NO idea where i found out about that 'text' option at. :)
[14:29] <guitar-maniac> kahlb: no i did not, does it turn off power aswell? or just put computer to "sleep"?
[14:29] <jrib> TasMan: yeah, which means you need some sort of ssh server on the windows box.  You need to ask ##windows if/how that's possible
[14:29] <AnthLee> I dont think it wants x gone though ..
[14:29] <TheScifi> jrib: not so sure :D but anything where i can just modify my xorg.conf would suffice, booting from live cd is ofcourse one option..
[14:29] <AnthLee> he*
[14:29] <AnthLee> or she
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> AnthLee:   You can always 'startx' if you wanted.
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> AnthLee:  or 'sudo service gdm start'
[14:29] <Nevstah> hi guys, for months i have been running my pc on a static address no problem, i then modified /etc/network/interfaces to use dhcp for a day, then reverted back to the same static settings. this works for a while then the pc auto switches back to dhcp. any ideas? the interfaces file remains set to 'static'
[14:30] <jrib> TheScifi: you should be able to choose recovery mode, and then when it gives you a list of options, choose "root shell"
[14:30] <kahlb> guitar-maniac: this should power-off the machine. the advantage of this way is that you definately do this with root-privileges
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> I justuse the 'text' option on my normal ussage. so i can get to console and do what i need.. if i want X . i 'startx' :)
[14:30] <TheScifi> jrib: aah.. i just dont get to boot that far aparrently :(
[14:31] <guitar-maniac> ok, what about that i cannot connect any USB devices? it just says its not authorized.. i checked my rights and nothing has changed..
[14:31] <jrib> TheScifi: that's really strange.  There's no X involved anywhere in the process.  chroot from a live cd I guess...
[14:31] <jrib> TheScifi: you do get to the grub menu and choose "recovery mode", correct?
[14:32] <guitar-maniac> And also my sounds are gone, rhytmbox seems to be playing the songs, but nothing comes out, last night everything worked
[14:32] <TheScifi> jrib: yes, and after that i just get some basic output wich is normaly under the splash, and when you normaly would start seeing different modules etc. getting loaded, it just goes blank
[14:33] <kahlb> guitar-maniac: this answer is not very unix-conform, but try rebooting, if problem persists ask again. seems to be a problem with your rights, the shutdown problem will depend on it, too.
[14:34] <guitar-maniac> Ok, i will finish my works on open office and then try that sudo halt. thanks for the help
[14:34] <AceKing> I just installed "secure-delete" from the repository but I can't figure out how to use it. Does anyone know how to use this program? I've been searching on the on the Internet but can't find anything useful.
[14:35] <iceroot> AceKing: it doesnt have a manpage?
[14:35] <AceKing> iceroot, no
[14:35] <St00r> theyranos: Lolz. The problem was that the router got an upgrade during the night, and fucked up the DMZ, so when I resetted it configured to the exact same settings it worked again.
[14:36] <St00r> ah well, thanks
[14:36] <theyranos> at least you found it
[14:36] <iceroot> AceKing: /usr/share/doc/secure-delete/secure_delete.doc.gz
[14:36] <TheScifi> Dr_Willis and jrib, thanks for the help, ill got to test some stuff and see if i would get the actual xorg stuff osrted out :)
[14:36] <AceKing> iceroot, thank you!
[14:37] <iceroot> AceKing: /usr/bin/srm --help  maybe is helping too. never used that program
[14:38] <sumit> hi
[14:38] <kahlb> AceKing: http://techthrob.com/2009/03/02/howto-delete-files-permanently-and-securely-in-linux/
[14:38] <AceKing> iceroot, thanks again.. I have a USB stick that I need to be secure
[14:38] <cptblod> Dr_Willis: so what can i do, nvidia-xconfig doesnt exist, i must be missin somethin?
[14:39] <AceKing> kahlb, Thanks, I'll check that out too
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> secure-delete package does not have a 'secure-delete' command. it has 5 other commands it installs.
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> use the pacakge manager to see what files it installed. :)
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> 'srm' is one command it includes
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> 'man srm'
[14:40] <AceKing> Dr_Willis, Will do.. On another note, is there a way to find deleted files on an ext.4 drive?
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> AceKing:  never tried.
[14:41] <scj> those secure wipe programs are bullshit, a single pass of zeros is enough
[14:42] <qwert> Does there exist a package of SPICE electronic circuit simulation for ubuntu?
[14:42] <h00k> !language | scj
[14:42] <No_one_at_all> scj: according to?
[14:42] <Nevstah> why is TDNet|Linux trying to send me files?
[14:43] <AceKing> Dr_Willis, Damn, I deleted my folder for Thunderbird accidentally and was wondering if there was a way to get it back. Everything I find is always for fat and ntfs
[14:43] <scj> No_one_at_all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_erasure#Number_of_overwrites_needed
[14:43] <maedox> there is an extundelete utility
[14:44] <parapan> hi there fellows > how do I start an Ubuntu 10.04 server edition with WOL ?
[14:44] <jpds> Nevstah: /ignore them if someone is bothering you.
[14:44] <maedox> AceKing: Either way, you should unmount the partition you deleted from immediately or you might lose it forever.
[14:44] <No_one_at_all> scj : good to know.
[14:45] <kai_> Hey there, can someone guide me through how to install grub from a linux live cd? (ubuntu) however the link I have found points me to locate the grub in terminal but it's not finding it (sudo grub)
[14:45] <qwert> Dr_Willis: Does there exist a package of SPICE electronic circuit simulation for ubuntu?
[14:45] <AceKing> maedox, it is the drive I'm using, I never carried it over when I put a fresh copy of 10.04 on my desktop.
[14:46] <justine777w> glebihan: please see PM
[14:46] <sipior> qwert: "apt-cache search spice"
[14:46] <kai_> (ubuntu 9.10)
[14:46] <AceKing> maedox, So it may be gone for good.
[14:47] <qwert> sipior: thanks.. Is there a software like that for windows as well?
[14:47] <maedox> AceKing: It might, but you never know. You could get lucky. :)
[14:47] <sipior> qwert: i don't really use windows.
[14:47] <Nevstah> is there any other file i should be looking for other than /etc/network/interfaces for network settings?
[14:47] <AceKing> maedox, where did you fine extundelete? I didn't see it in the repository
[14:47] <maedox> kai_: This should help: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[14:47] <qwert> sipior: Nor do i
[14:48] <maedox> AceKing: I don't know if it's in the repos. But it should be on Sourceforge.
[14:48] <Oer> qwert i found a outdated ubuntu 9.10 howto > http://www.binarytides.com/blog/install-spice-on-ubuntu-9-10-64bit-karmic-koala/
[14:48] <maedox> AceKing: http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/
[14:49] <maedox> Nevstah: What are you looking for?
[14:49] <kai_> maedox, thank you. but I am not sure if that will work as it is a live cd? Would it still be able to update grub?
[14:49] <AceKing> maedox, thanks, I just hope that I don't have to compile it. LOL, I never figured out how to do that
[14:50] <qwert> Oer: Thanks! That was of help :)
[14:50] <maedox> kai_: Yes, I have done it several times with success. You just have to keep your head cool.
[14:50] <kai_> maedox , Will do captain, thanks.
[14:50] <Nevstah> maedox: i set ../interfaces eth0 to static, yet (i think) upstart is respawning? the network daemon and setting back to dhcp (which i dont want)
[14:52] <kai_> maedox, may I PM code I am getting from update grub?
[14:52] <maedox> kai_: sure
[14:53] <hebz0rl> hi is there a way to get the last changed folder in a directory via commandline?
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> hebz0rl:  what do you mean by last changed?
[14:53] <maedox> Nevstah: Could there be something wrong with the syntax in your interfaces file?
[14:53] <hebz0rl> Dr_Willis, im using backintime to make snapshots of my files i want to backup that files but only the most recent version
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> hebz0rl:  find can locate files by date, ls -al , shows the dates last modified also i belive
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> Not sure if those dates change for a directory. when you modify contents of a directory.. never really looked at them
[14:55] <Nevstah> maedox: i chaned to dhcp for only a few hours, previously been running static with no problem for over 1 year. its the same settings
[14:55] <hebz0rl> Dr_Willis, hmh but how can i get that date to use it in another script?
[14:55] <maedox> Nevstah: Weird. Can't say that I've experienced that before.
[14:55] <kai_> Okay, Don't know why but I can't PM maedox, the line I am getting is ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo update-grub grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /.
[14:55] <Nevstah> maedox: ok
[14:56] <AnthLee> kai_ root isnt mounted
[14:56] <kai_> How do I do that?
[14:56] <AnthLee> you need to mount the partition that root is on
[14:56] <erUSUL> hebz0rl: find has a -printf than can give you the mtime
[14:56] <sta11> how can I remove an autostart script via terminal?
[14:56] <AnthLee> if it shows up in nautilus just double click on it
[14:57] <Nevstah> brb
[14:57] <hebz0rl> erUSUL, will try that
[14:58] <hebz0rl> thx for your help Dr_Willis and erUSUL
[14:58] <Poul|Raider> if my /var/log/message gets spammed with Sep 14 17:59:08 access kernel: [179938.217820] ll header: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:13:46:59:fe:4b:08:06 Sep 14 17:59:09 access kernel: [179939.217697] martian source 82.211.213.118 from 192.168.0.1, on dev eth1  - is that something i should be concerned with =?
[14:58] <maedox> kai_: You have to do `sudo grub-install /dev/sd#` where sd# is the device you want to install on - normally /dev/sda.
[14:59] <maedox> kai_: Oh, wait, I'm getting ahead of myself. :P   Did you do it like in the guide I sent you?
[14:59] <kai_> maedox lol I did but I got an error code ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo update-grub grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /.
[14:59] <maedox> kai_: I have seen that error before, but I can't remember how I fixed it.
[14:59] <Poul|Raider> eth1 is my internet interface, and eth0 is the local with ip 192.168.0.1
[15:00] <AnthLee> root isnt mounted I'm googling for a fix
[15:00] <sta11> How can I remove an autostart script via terminal?
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> sta11:  depends on how its starting
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> !autostart
[15:00] <kai_> also, here is another (PS sorry ops, can't PM) ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub.  No path or device is specified. Try ``grub-probe --help'' for more information. Auto-detection of a filesystem module failed. Please specify the module with the option `--modules' explicitly.
[15:00] <add1ctus_> Anyone with some shell experience can help me out? It's not very complicated..
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> sta11:  theres the autostart directory, (not used a lot) then theres system wide auto-starting directories..  then there stuff ran befor the user even logs in
[15:01] <AceKing> maedox, extundelete does need to be compiled. I tried following the "Read me" but I never had luck doing that. Can you help?
[15:01] <bobstro> add1ctus_:  what's the issue?
[15:02] <maedox> kai_: You fixed it?
[15:02] <maedox> AceKing: Not sure, I'll give it a shot.
[15:02] <sta11> Dr_Willis what is the most used directory?
[15:02] <add1ctus_> Using the su <username> command in terminal is considered shell?
[15:02] <AceKing> maedox, Thanks
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> sta11:  it totally depends on what it is you are refering to being autostarted
[15:02] <kai_> Maedox I am speaking with AnthLee now abouty it
[15:02] <kai_> about*
[15:04] <qwert> Dr_Willis: Could you suggest me some electronic simulation softwares?
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> qwert:  clarify what is is you are looking for. You mean like the old 'spice' program?
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> !info spice-ng
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> !info spiceng
[15:05] <Pici> !info ngspice
[15:05] <sta11> Dr_Willis: I added a script about service to autostart via gui tool, but then it caused login failure. I think I have to remove it but all I have is netroot
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> Pici:  so mucjh for standard naming. :)
[15:05] <qwert> Dr_Willis: Pici: Thanks :)
[15:05] <add1ctus_> bobstro: How do i block someone's access to shell? I know it can be done with /sbin/nologin, but i only need to restrict someone's access to my shell, not everyone's...
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> sta11:  check the /etc/rc2.d directories or the /etc/init and /etc/init.d dirs
[15:05] <shane2peru> I need the latest Barry and opensync packages, and I can't seem to find a ppa, I'm on 64bit, opensync in the repo is 0.22, and 0.39 is released with 0.4 close to being released, any ideas??  0.22 has issues.
[15:06] <sta11> Dr_Willis: ok I will :)
[15:06] <bobstro> add1ctus_:  how are they accessing the system? are they local at the keyboard, or remote?
[15:06] <add1ctus_> bobstro: multiple monitors connected to one computer, using xtenda i think...
[15:07] <millertimek1a2m3> short question: I am porting an application that uses unix based libraries to windows. I have found an equivalent for windows that will solve the problem, but it is at source level
[15:07] <bobstro> add1ctus_:  so you want them to be able to open a shell using *your* account but not others?
[15:07] <jellow> when id the swap ever used ? free -m always shows swap file emty
[15:08] <millertimek1a2m3> The application that I'm porting has a bunch of #includes <library that I found equivalent to>'s
[15:08] <millertimek1a2m3> how will I make netbeans see the new source so that it automatically puts those in?
[15:08] <add1ctus_> bobstro: let me explain a bit more, it's like there are user01, user02, and everyone with same password that everyone knows... public computers.. now it happens that people just do su <username> in terminal, and just kill processes on other computers
[15:09] <Poul|Raider> i followed http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch14_:_Linux_Firewalls_Using_iptables  the part about port forward, but my port forwarding dont work. Anyone good at iptables and able to guide me to get it working
[15:10] <add1ctus_> bobstro: i want to prevent them using let's say.. su user01... maybe user01 could reject the connection or something?
[15:10] <bobstro> add1ctus_:  ugh. shared accounts are always a bad thing. you can try things like using rbash but you've put yourself in a situation of playing cat & mouse that will be hard to win.
[15:10] <votan> Hi, is there a reason why I get "Permission denied" when I do "sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" ?
[15:10] <millertimek1a2m3> nevermind
[15:10] <CharlieSu> Anyone know if it is possible to have Rsyslog archive logs to S3?
[15:10] <jellow> votan: do sudo -i then try
[15:10] <bobstro> add1ctus_:  rbash lets you set up a restricted shell, but it requires some work. are these kids at a school or something?
[15:10] <jellow> votan: you need root
[15:11] <votan> jellow worked, thanks. I thought sudo would suffice
[15:11] <add1ctus_> bobstro: yes.. at school...
[15:11] <quiescens> easiest to just do virtualization these days
[15:11] <add1ctus_> bobstro: a lot of argues are happening because someone kills someone's firefox.. or just annoys them...
[15:12] <Tasman> can i encrypt folders and make ubuntu ask password everytime it is opened?
[15:12] <Emanon> yes Tasman truecrypt
[15:12] <bobstro> add1ctus_:  well, that's why accounts usually have passwords. you're having a hard time enforcing accountability.
[15:12] <pensfan> I have a server running in a vm.  When my system sleeps the network card of the vm will not get route.  I have an ip address, getting name servers and a default gateway, but I'm not able to ping anything but the host system.  ugh .. help
[15:12] <Tasman> or.. just chmod -R 111 <foldername> and make ubuntu ask password if it is opened?
[15:13] <bobstro> add1ctus_:  so while you could set up a restricted user environment using rbash, they will try things like ssh or telnet to another system and so on.
[15:13] <bobstro> bobstro:  along with rbash, you can restrict access to su certainly.
[15:13] <Tasman> Emanon, is truecrypt app? i cant see it when i do apt-cache search truecrupt..
[15:13] <bobstro> add1ctus_:  heh... that was to you. :)
[15:13] <bobstro> add1ctus_:  what do they *need* to be able to do?
[15:14] <Emanon> Tasman, dont think its in the default repos let me get you the site sex
[15:14] <Emanon> sec i mean
[15:14] <Tasman> Emanon, heh..
[15:14] <david506> I run "apt-get upgrade" and it shows me packages that need updating, how can I see the change log or justification for these package updates ? - thanks
[15:14] <Emanon> http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads Tasman
[15:14] <bobstro> add1ctus_:  something like http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-restrict-su-command-to-superuser-only-in-linux.html
[15:14] <Tasman> Emanon, but cant we just chmod it... and make it ask for password?
[15:14] <rapage> woots da dif betweemnn apt-get update and upgrade
[15:15] <add1ctus_> bobstro: i will read that now
[15:15] <Emanon> idk probably i just like truecrypt
[15:15] <sta11> Dr_Willis: I can't find it. Actually that was a command "sudo service dbus start".
[15:15] <quiescens> david506: you can install apt-listchanges
[15:15] <Tasman> Emanon, ok.. tks
[15:15] <add1ctus_> bobstro: i will try that... can't try it at the moment, but anyways, thanks for the help
[15:16] <Tasman> Emanon, btw it isnt just for crypting drives... is it?
[15:16] <Emanon> nope Tasman
[15:16] <bobstro> add1ctus_:  normally, you could use sudo to provide specific access, but your core problem is that everybody knows everbody else's passwords. unless you have some way of knowing who is actually issuing commands (authentication), the system can't tell who's who. read up on rbash though, it's probably part of your solution.
[15:16] <Emanon> drives partitions folders or individual files
[15:16] <bobstro> add1ctus_:  what do they actually need to do at the shell?
[15:17] <add1ctus_> bobstro: they just need to run some software like openoffice, and some other educational software, and they can open firefox in their free time, to have fun on the net...
[15:17] <add1ctus_> bobstro: i just need to restrict them from su ... nothing more.. i am preety much sure that they won't go any more than that...
[15:17] <bobstro> add1ctus_:  so all gui programs? why not get rid of the terminal access?
[15:18] <Emanon> nah bobstro then they could just use alt+f2
[15:18] <add1ctus_> bobstro: i haven't thought about that... lol... yea, you're right.. it can stop them doing all those stuff
[15:18] <bobstro> Emanon:  sounds almost like they need a kiosk setup
[15:18] <Scunizi> Is the "Pre-released updates" in software sources the same thing as Backports?  or is Unsupported updates?
[15:18] <add1ctus_> bobstro: ok.. thanks again...
[15:18] <bobstro> add1ctus_:  read up on kiosks... sounds like what you need
[15:19] <Pici> Scunizi: pre-released updates is -proposed, unsupported updates is -backports.
[15:19] <Eren> does anyone play enemy territory with punkbuster enabled?
[15:19] <Eren> I cannot run pbupdate script
[15:19] <Scunizi> Pici: thanks.. there's a new version of upstart that's suppose to fix cups not starting on boot.
[15:19] <zer0her0> dumb question, is there a terminal command that spits out the hardware in the machine?
[15:19] <Eren> I would really appreciate the latest files gzipped so that I will extract them
[15:19] <Pici> zer0her0: sudo lshw
[15:19] <zer0her0> Pici: thanks :)
[15:20] <votan_> mh, what's the iptables syntax to use a subnet like 10.13.37.0/24 ? If I enter it like that it tells me that it is a bad arguement ?
[15:20] <kai_> Hello
[15:20] <AnthLee> hi
[15:21] <Emanon> !hi | AnthLee
[15:21] <qwert> !Howdy|AnthLee
[15:21] <Emanon> forgot the spaces qwert
[15:21] <Aviram> hi..
[15:21] <extax_0> hi!
[15:21] <qwert> !Howdy| AnthLee
[15:21] <qwert> !Howdy| Aviram
[15:23] <Katsumi32> hi im trying to get vlc 1.1.1 so i added rep  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:c-korn/vlc but when  update it says the source doesnt exist
[15:23] <Katsumi32> any advice?
[15:24] <undecim> Katsumi32: check that you typed it right
[15:24] <Emanon> no that ppa is down i had the same problem
[15:24] <Katsumi32> yes i just copied fromt eh web
[15:24] <maedox> Katsumi32: Yes, don't use c-korn.
[15:24] <maedox> Katsumi32: I'll find what I have, one moment
[15:24] <Emanon> try the webupd8 ppa it has vlc in it
[15:24] <Katsumi32> Emanon, i need the ver 1.1.1
[15:24] <geirha> Katsumi32: The ppa probably doesn't have packages for the ubuntu release you are running.
[15:25] <Katsumi32> geirha,  i found its down the adress i have got so there must be other ppa i dont know
[15:25] <Emanon> Katsumi32, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=webupd8
[15:25] <extax_0> it is better to start personal (additional) startup applications ( extra applications that we want like jdownloader, checkgmail,pidgin,screenlets...) after opened the desktop manager ? I mean i can write a script that will open those applications after 5-10 seconds after starts gnome ? It is more stable ?
[15:26] <undecim> Alright, so I'm working on getting a completely encrypted hard drive, with a USB drive to boot from. I've done this before on Arch, but not quite sure how to do it on Ubuntu. I've got everything down pat except one: In Arch, I would add the "encrypt" hook to mkinitcpio.conf and after rebuilding the initrd, it would unlock my drive provided I had the USB key. How do I add the hook to the initrd on Ubuntu? I can write a script if I have to, I just need 
[15:29] <DarkStar1> Anyone know what standard daemon runs on port 8080?
[15:29] <sacarlson> any one know how to adjust my webcam settings from cli?  I tried dov4l seems to do nothing.  cheese settings changes work so can I adjust those with a cli command?
[15:29] <undecim> DarkStar1: Usuallt stuff dealing with HTTP. A web server or proxy
[15:30] <chibihogoshino> extax_0: no
[15:30] <sacarlson> DarkStar1: many people use 8080 as a proxy port but you can set anything to use it.
[15:30] <DarkStar1> undecim: Thanks. So it could be apache or tomcat
[15:30] <Emanon> undecim, keyfile or passphrase?
[15:30] <undecim> Emanon: Keyfile stored on USB drive
[15:30] <rapage> is there a program that tells me what registry info a loaded program calls
[15:31] <DarkStar1> sacarlson: I know I just did a port scan and found something was running on that port
[15:31] <Emanon> autodetect on insertion darn idk how to do that
[15:31] <sacarlson> DarkStar1:  well look and see what it is
[15:31] <undecim> Emanon: The USB drive will also hold /boot
[15:31] <Emanon> right thats how i do it undecim
[15:31] <Emanon> try the alternate install iso you might be able to define that in the crypto options
[15:32] <Emanon> i think there is an option for keyfile instead of passphrase
[15:32] <sacarlson> DarkStar1: this should tell you what process is running on that port sudo netstat -pant
[15:32] <undecim> Emanon: I tried the alternate install and it didn't give a keyfile option
[15:32] <Emanon> oh ok darn sorry
[15:32] <Katsumi32> guys is it worth adding this ppa:lucid-bleed/lucidbleed-exp to your repisotry ? how big are chance after update your lucid will die ?
[15:32] <DarkStar1> sacarlson: lol.. pants :D
[15:32] <Emanon> larger than if you dont do it Katsumi32
[15:32] <extax_0> chibihogoshino: are you sure ? i mean some people write me that it is little bit better to do that ... :( i dont know...
[15:32] <rapage> what's the difference between extended and stanrdard tab on services under manage my os
[15:33] <chibihogoshino> extax_0: i think all it would do is stager the startup and have less of a load on the hd all at once
[15:33] <Katsumi32> Emanon, i have to risk cuz the vlc 1.1.1 have h264 support so no more high cpu load when playing HD clips
[15:33] <qwert> Dr_Willis: What is the package name which install Ubuntu Software Centre?
[15:33] <trojan_spike> how do i auto-mount ,, and not show on desktop?
[15:33] <Katsumi32> im talking about ati cards only
[15:34] <Emanon> ahh Katsumi32 good lick
[15:34] <undecim> Emanon: I've already determined that I will just have to configure it manually and I know what I'm doing, I'm just missing the one crucial part of putting my script (or a script that comes with cryptsetup) into the initrd every time it is created
[15:34] <Katsumi32> sure good lick floor Emanon what are you really talking about lick what ?
[15:34] <maedox> lol
[15:34] <Emanon> good lick sorry
[15:34] <Nevstah> hmm.. i have just disconnected from my network, deleted my /etc/network/interfaces file and replaced it with a default setup for static ip, yet the pc still insists on going back to dhcp
[15:34] <qwert> What is the package name which install Ubuntu Software Centre?
[15:35] <Emanon> luck darnit
[15:35] <Emanon> can't type today
[15:35] <Nevstah> i dont understand what the log shows me
[15:35] <Katsumi32> Emanon, over here english only
[15:35] <Katsumi32> :)
[15:35] <extax_0> chibihogoshino: think a computer which is very very slow, but it starts many many applications on startup....
[15:35] <Emanon> hehe
[15:35] <DarkStar1> sacarlson: Thanks for the help. It just show "java" as the process so I'm going to assume tomcat
[15:35] <Emanon> undecim, sorry i cant help i use passphrase and dont know the manual args
[15:35] <chibihogoshino> extax_0: what window manager are you running
[15:36] <sacarlson> DarkStar1: well good guess but java can put anything on it
[15:36] <extax_0> chibihogoshino: gnome with ubuntu 10.04 (updated).
[15:36] <undecim> Emanon: So you used the alternate install to setup encryption w/ passphrase?
[15:36] <maedox> Katsumi32: I used this and it works perfectly in 10.04: http://n00bsonubuntu.com/content/install-vlc-114-using-ferramrobertovlc-ppa-ubuntu-1004-lts-lucid-lynx
[15:36] <chibihogoshino> extax_0: try xfce
[15:36] <chibihogoshino> extax_0: its lighter on resources
[15:37] <DarkStar1> sacarlson: Well I'm going to have to go with that now. I don't have time to investigate :-$
[15:37] <chibihogoshino> extax_0: but yeah.. making a script would help
[15:37] <Emanon> yes i did undecim
[15:37] <Emanon> and i used pwgen to make good passwords too
[15:37] <sacarlson> DarkStar1: can't you just user your browser on that port and see what comes up?
[15:37] <Nevstah> can someone tell me what this means? : Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS
[15:38] <extax_0>  chibihogoshino i will use gnome because i am not grumbling about spped. i just want a stable start.
[15:38] <chibihogoshino> extax_0: is it unstable now ?
[15:38] <undecim> Emanon: Could you maybe see if there is something to do with cryptsetup in /etc/initramfs-tools?
[15:38] <extax_0> chibihogoshino sometimes.
[15:38] <extax_0> chibihogoshino especially with live cd.
[15:38] <chibihogoshino> extax_0: whats it doing ?
[15:38] <undecim> Emanon: Or maybe just give me a copy of that entire directory and let me look at it myself?
[15:38] <Poul|Raider> i setup my box as router working with portforwarding but it is not working, i captured these two packaged when trying to remote desktop to ip:4000 which should forward to local:3389  - i have no clue how to debug the issue http://pastebin.com/eebKHxuV
[15:39] <Emanon> actually im in a live disk right now i would if i could undecim
[15:39] <undecim> Emanon: Alright, that's fine. I'll do some more googleing.
[15:39] <Emanon> good luck bud hope you find something
[15:39] <undecim> ... soon as my .mozilla folder is done syncing XD
[15:39] <extax_0> chibihogoshino the problem is on indicator applet for panel. it sometimes does not show som icons . also gnome notification area do this.
[15:40] <extax_0> chibihogoshino they have to start one by one.
[15:40] <Kenjiro> good morning/afternoon
[15:40] <Emanon> !hi | Kenjiro
[15:40] <chibihogoshino> extax_0: hmm.. did you try updating ?
[15:40] <AnthLee> ello
[15:40] <rapage> hi
[15:41] <extax_0> chibihogoshino: updated everything.. 32 bit system.
[15:41] <qwert> Can anyone help me?
[15:41] <Emanon> !help | qwert
[15:41] <qwert> What is the package name which install Ubuntu Software Centre?
[15:41] <Kenjiro> guys, I have an Ubuntu Server 9.10 (if I am not mistaken). I am having problems to set the locale "Portuguese_Brazil.1252". Any ideas on how I do that?
[15:41] <extax_0> chibihogoshino: i mean it is better or not ? :) what do you think...
[15:41] <Kenjiro> (I need that because of a database which must be created on PostgreSQL)
[15:41] <qwert> !repeat| Emanon
[15:41] <chibihogoshino> extax_0: it cant hurt ..
[15:41] <qwert> Emanon: Sorry
[15:42] <chibihogoshino> extax_0: i would do it and see if it helps.
[15:42] <rapage> !help sandy
[15:42] <Emanon> sok qwert
[15:42] <extax_0> chibihogoshino: yes. thank you!
[15:42] <qwert> Emanon: Huh?
[15:42] <Emanon> you said sorry i said its ok
[15:43] <qwert> Emanon: okay
[15:43] <chibihogoshino> extax_0: no problem.. hope it helps.
[15:43] <qwert> Enamon: What is the package name which install Ubuntu Software Centre?
[15:43] <Emanon> probably ubuntu-software-center
[15:43] <qwert> Emanon: What is the package name which install Ubuntu Software Centre?
[15:44] <rapage> !help sudo
[15:44] <rapage> !help su
[15:45] <JonathanD> rapage: that's not going to do anything.
[15:45] <rapage> what? i wasn't trying to have I was trying 2gethelp
[15:45] <cyclist_2> Hello, there! I returned home today to find that my laptop had gone into hibernation; it was a first for me; the thing that concerns me is that I *never* use the laptop on battery power and for that reason it should be fully charged; save a major bug, I guess that there was a power shortage around here and the laptop went into battery power mode automatically [just a guess, though]; but that instead of maintaining the lapto
[15:46] <JonathanD> rapage: and what do you need help with?
[15:46] <pat|nG> i need help...i'm running my ubuntu on vbox...i would to check if my wireless card is working fine in my ubuntu distro any help?
[15:46] <rapage> windows right now
[15:47] <Emanon> !su | rapage
[15:47] <DarkStar1> sacarlson: Sorry I went aFK. I'll try your suggestion in a sec
[15:48] <reut> hello
[15:48] <Emanon> !hi | reut
[15:48] <reut> Emanon, can you help me iwht ubuntu? I'm trying to use bash for the first time and I can't seem to get it to work
[15:49] <abhijit> hi
[15:49] <Emanon> !details | reut
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> pat|nG:  the os in virtualbox - just sees itself networked to the 'hosting' machine.  the Host OS is connected to the network properly?
[15:49] <abhijit> hi
[15:49] <Emanon> !hi | abhijit
[15:49] <reut> I wrote (gedit) "#!/bin/bash" followed by "echo "hello world"
[15:49] <reut> "
[15:49] <reut> i tried to run the file from sh
[15:49] <reut> (i set the premissions and everything)
[15:49] <DarkStar1> sacarlson: Thank you very much... My guess was right. Turned out to be tomcat.
[15:50] <jrib> reut: what does "i tried to run the file from sh" mean exactly?
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> reut:  on 2 differnt lines right?
[15:50] <reut> i opened the terminal
[15:50] <jrib> !enter | reut
[15:50] <reut> and just wrote the file's path
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> reut:  if its chmod +x you just do ./whatever.sh  and it should run
[15:50] <reut> i set it to a+x
[15:51] <jrib> reut: and what was the output?
[15:51] <datacide> reut, did you really write "echo "hello world"? echo requires no leading "
[15:51] <reut> wait i'll quote it...
[15:51] <reut> no, the code should be fine, i tried hello world and "hello world" neither worked. no leading "
[15:52] <pat|nG> Dr_Willis i'm using a cable right now....all i want to know is to check if my eth0 is detecting on my distro cause i got an ubuntu on my partition and up until now wireless aint working :(
[15:52] <aboSamoor> where can I find the source files installed using apt-get source ?
[15:52] <reut> filename : "command not found"
[15:52] <jrib> aboSamoor: current working directory
[15:52] <datacide> did you use ./script to execute it?
[15:53] <reut> what is ./script    ... I know nothing about bash, just tried to exsecute the hello world
[15:53] <PHAT6FOUR> ?
[15:53] <jrib> reut: if you just typed "filename", you need to instead type "./filename"
[15:53] <datacide> or try PATH=$PATH:</dir/scripts/are/developed/in
[15:53] <reut> ohhh right. like C
[15:53] <PHAT6FOUR> lol
[15:53] <reut> THANKS!
[15:54] <aboSamoor> jrib: thanks a lot
[15:54] <reut> worked fine
[15:54] <Kyle__> Humm.  Reposting since vbox is asleep...
[15:54] <Kyle__> If you're running VBox-ose on ubuntu, should you have both virtualbox-ose-dkms and dkms installed?  Or just one of them?
[15:54] <reut> thanks jrib i'm rying this for like an hour!!
[15:54] <PHAT6FOUR> Should be fine with default settings. I guess it would depend on what you are doing.
[15:55] <bhauff> What are the 5 postgres processes doing on a stock install of 10.04 server?
[15:55] <zealiod> im trying to get free radius working, but my radiusd usr/group can't access the shadow passwords, how can i change thi
[15:55] <DarkStar1> what's a good email-client for Ubuntu. I don't need something to download all my hotmail e-mails. Just something that will pop up on my desktop when I get new mail from any of my e-mail addresses
[15:56] <philinux> reut: GUIway. Create a text file on desktop with script. Right click and under permissions tick "allow executing file as programme". Then just double click it.
[15:56] <aetaric> !good | DarkStar1
[15:58] <philinux> DarkStar1: Evolution is integrated well with the notifications, but it has to be running.
[15:58] <DarkStar1> aetaric: I know that I'm more asking for ppls opinions. Or if someone already uses such a software, for a recommendation. Apologies for not being clear
[15:58] <AnthLee> isnt there a gnome applet for that?
[15:58] <quiescens> i would contend that was a very appropriate question, or are you just taking issue with the question having the word "good"
[15:58] <DarkStar1> AnthLee: for what? For what I'm looking for?
[15:59] <AnthLee> DarkStar1 google cGmai
[15:59] <DarkStar1> AnthLee: cgmail?
[15:59] <AnthLee> I pmed you a link
[16:00] <PHAT6FOUR> Does anyone know if there is a GUI for kismet?
[16:00] <aetaric> quiescens: because the words 'good' and 'best' tend to start holy wars, i.e. VI(m) vs EMACS
[16:00] <ikar> hey, i need help deleting a read-only filesystem
[16:01] <PHAT6FOUR> Kismet > GUI? Anyone?
[16:01] <philinux> ikar: more info needed
[16:01] <quiescens> aetaric: they specified the features they wanted fairly clearly, its not the same as asking "what is the best email client?"
[16:02] <aetaric> quiescens: and it could still start a war over software.
[16:03] <ikar> philinux, ok, this is the case: i need to change ownership on a ekstern harddrive, because i can't delete a directory who's maybe corrupted
[16:03] <DexterLB> why is it that when I go to telinit 1 plymouth starts and I cant go into the tty?
[16:03] <qwert> What is the package name which install Ubuntu Software Centre?
[16:04] <AnthLee> did you try ubuntu-software-center
[16:05] <Fatzilla> hiya
[16:06] <quiescens> aetaric: so basically the only issue is the question would have been better if they had just said "what is an email client that can pop up a notification when there's new mail on hotmail", as long as they never mention the word "good"
[16:07] <aetaric> quiescens: i wouldn't have used the bot then. just trying to prevent holy wars.
[16:07] <kernel32> hello eveyone
[16:07] <undecim> Oh, cool. Looks like just having cryptsetup installed adds the hook to initramfs
[16:07] <cookiemad> hi
[16:08] <undecim> Well, that was easy
[16:08] <Katsumi32> hi kernel32
[16:08] <qwert> Ubuntu Software Centre crashes while clicking on Install option.. How can i resolve it?
[16:08] <kernel32> I have some question please answer me?
[16:09] <Katsumi32> kernel32, the latest on for 10.04 is 2.6.35 are you from the future?
[16:09] <Katsumi32> kernel32 just ask
[16:09] <kernel32> ok well
[16:09] <kernel32> I want to 3D Game Engine
[16:09] <ikar> i got this message, when i try to sudo rm -rf: "cannot remove Read-Only filesystem." what should i do?
[16:09] <undecim> ikar: What filesystem are you trying to remove a file from?
[16:10] <Katsumi32> kernel32, you mean you want to play games and you cant?
[16:10] <kernel32> no
[16:10] <kernel32> I want to develop game
[16:10] <ikar> undecim, i'm gonna check
[16:10] <ikonia> kernel32: what is your question ?
[16:11] <ikar> undecim, it's FAT
[16:11] <kernel32> I want to 3D Game. I use 3D GameStudio Engine on windows. Now I use linux and I want to create 3D Game. I searching 3d game engine
[16:11] <undecim> ikar: You will need to remount it as rw. If the filesystem is /dev/sdb1 mounted at /mnt/sdb1, for example, you would run "sudo mount -o remount,rw /mnt/sdb1" or "sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1"
[16:11] <ikonia> kernel32: ok - that's nothing to do with ubuntu so offtopic for this channel
[16:11] <ikonia> kernel32: this channel is for ubuntu support issues only
[16:11] <undecim> ikar: Usually, filesystems will be mounted rw already. Is there a reason this one is mounted ro?
[16:11] <kernel32> I use pardus :)
[16:12] <ikonia> kernel32: that is nothing to do with this channels topic so please stop discussing it
[16:12] <ikar> undecim, i don't know. I usually just plug it in and don't do anything else
[16:12] <Katsumi32> kernel32, try #debian-games
[16:12] <ikar> undecim, but i'm gonna try what u said
[16:12] <kernel32> thank you
[16:13] <alexander_> can someone tell me how to load the nvidia driver on boot?
[16:13] <cenciu> hi. i have installed kde partition manager. how can i run the application now?
[16:13] <undecim> ikar: K. Even if it fails to remount rw, it may give an error that explains why it won't mount rw
[16:13] <sjm> undecim, is it an SD card with the write lock on it?
[16:13] <sjm> ikar, is it an SD card with the write lock on it?
[16:13] <fladd> hi there, does anyone know of a way to tell ubuntu to NOT detect my usb harddrive as hda, because hda is my internal harddrive (where also ubuntu is installed on)?
[16:13] <undecim> sjm, ikar: That is a possibility. Most SD cards and some flash drives have hardware RO switched
[16:13] <undecim> switches*
[16:14] <ikar> sjm & undecim , it's a harddrive 1TB
[16:15] <sjm> fladd, it won't.  If something is already there, it shouldn't.
[16:15] <airtonix> fladd, if you are talking in terms of just /media/hda then you specify a uuid for the new drive instead of a /dev path.
[16:15] <undecim> ikar: Have you tried remounting it yet?
[16:15] <TheDark> -resistance
[16:15]  * sjm thinks: 1TB formatted as FAT???
[16:15] <alexander_> can someone tell me how to load the nvidia driver on boot?
[16:15] <ikar> undecim, i'm gonne try now
[16:15] <xektrum> hello, how can I get the sector size of a drive ?(in ubuntu obviously)
[16:16] <ikonia> alexander_: open the system->administration->hardware drivers and enable the nvidia option, they will then get loaded at boot
[16:16] <ViN86> sjm, lol you dont format 1TB drives with FAT? xD
[16:16] <Katsumi32> alexander_, if its installed it should be loaded auto
[16:16] <jav> When I got dual-displays, how can I pick which one should be the "primary" one? In other words, which one the gnome-bars should appear on.
[16:16] <fladd> sjm, well, it does, I used to automount my sda5 to /windows and sda7 to /media. No, when my usb drive is connected during boot, then the mounting of both fails and if I mount (double clicking) my usb drive then, it is mounted to /windows
[16:16] <ViN86> sjm, i love using 1/100th of my drives
[16:16] <ViN86> lol
[16:16] <sjm> lol
[16:16] <Saguaro> jav, do you have a video card?
[16:16] <fladd> s/hda/sda btw...
[16:16] <jav> Saguaro: An integrated intel thingy.
[16:17] <sjm> fladd: try using the UUIDs in /etc/fstab
[16:17] <Saguaro> you should be able to set default monitor in System > Preferences > Monitors
[16:17] <Saguaro> jav
[16:17] <jav> "Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series"
[16:17] <undecim> ikar: btw: NTFS is better for large drives like that, and works fine in Ubuntu nowadays
[16:17] <alexander_> ikonia: not after boot i want them during boot
[16:17] <jav> Saguaro: The option "default" does not exist there...
[16:18] <Saguaro> jav there should be a "Make Default" button
[16:18] <ikar> undecim, it worked! :) yes, i'm gonna reformat the drive to NTFS
[16:18] <ikar> undecim, thank you so much!
[16:18] <undecim> ikar: no problem
[16:18] <fladd> where do I get the uuid from?
[16:19] <undecim> fladd: sudo blkid
[16:19] <alexander_> Katsumi32: i want it to load during boot not after
[16:19] <jav> Saguaro: http://www.sics.se/~jav/Screenshot-Monitor%20Preferences.png
[16:19] <sipior> alexander_: given that you don't have an X window server running until after boot, i fail to see the problem.
[16:19] <Mr_Blik_> offtopic?
[16:20] <IdleOne> Mr_Blik_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:20] <Friar> I just insterted a 4GB drive, and it is mounted on /media/89f90252-61d7-4970-b90a-35325bdd7eaf. can I change it so that it is much easier to get to via command line?
[16:20] <Saguaro> what version of ubuntu are you running, jav?
[16:20] <sjm> fladd, as undecim said:  sudo blkid /dev/sda1 (or whatever partition)
[16:20] <Katsumi32> alexander_, when you boot up your ubuntu and your nvidia driver propper one is installed it will load during the boot
[16:20] <Mr_Blik_> Saguaro:  thanks
[16:20] <ChogyDan> Friar: try tab
[16:20] <undecim> alexander: AFAIK, you can't get KMS with nvidia. The X server needs to load the driver itself
[16:20] <Friar> tab??
[16:20] <ChogyDan> !tab | Friar
[16:20] <airtonix> Friar, the "tab" key on your keyboard
[16:20] <jav> Saguaro: Lucid (10.04)
[16:21] <Katsumi32> alexander_, it will load just after grub window is that good enough for you ?
[16:21] <psusi> Friar: yes.. give the disk a volume lable
[16:21] <Friar> ha i get it!!
[16:21] <Saguaro> brb rebooting
[16:21] <fladd> thanks, I will reboot and see what happens...
[16:21] <slow-motion> hi
[16:21] <undecim> alexander_: Oh, I stand corrected... Apparantly, Fedora beta had it as of Feb 2009
[16:21] <Friar> psusi, how do I do that?
[16:22] <alexander_> Katsumi32: sure
[16:22] <airtonix> Friar, http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/short-tip-bash-tab-completion-with-one-tab/
[16:22] <airtonix> Friar, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_line_completion
[16:23] <Katsumi32> alexander_, dont know what card do you have so try hardware drivers check it up if the drivers there are activated if any problems just ask
[16:23] <alexander_> Katsumi32: all this already done
[16:23] <sjm> friar, not sure, but I think it's the "b" option in fdisk.
[16:23] <geoffmcc> trying to get samba working. Turn off firewall works fine and if enable dont work. Ports i have opened 137_139,445 am i missing one?
[16:23] <Katsumi32> alexander_, so any problems ?
[16:24] <Friar> thanks for the replies guys...sjm, airtonix....I used gparted. I unmounted and then was able to rename and remount.
[16:24] <glebihan> geoffmcc: no those are the correct ports
[16:24] <airtonix> geoffb, http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2002-January/036471.html
[16:24] <airtonix> geoffmcc, you actually need to make sure you're allows udp and tcp
[16:24] <alexander_> Katsumi32:nvm i got help elsewhere thanks
[16:25] <undecim> sjm: To set a volume label is filesystem specific. You can use tune2fs -L for ext filesystems
[16:25] <geoffmcc> airtonix: have done both for incomming and then outbound, must be a specific samba section in APF-Firewall maybe
[16:25] <airtonix> geoffmcc, apf ?
[16:25] <sjm> undecim, ok, thanks, nice to know.
[16:26] <sjm> undecim, (I usually don't worry about labels)  :)
[16:26] <geoffmcc> airtonix apf-firewall, i like better than ufw
[16:26] <airtonix> geoffmcc, you'll have to ask them then
[16:26] <geoffmcc> airtonix: im aware i was just checking make sure i using correct ports
[16:26] <geoffmcc> thank u
[16:26] <undecim> sjm: I keep mine labled for nice names in /media. Either way though, it's nice to know how to use them.
[16:26] <KAL> hello guys, tell me how can i listen on single port and read all crap which came through it?
[16:26] <undecim> KAL: netcat
[16:27] <sjm> KAL: use Wireshark
[16:27] <KAL> undecim ok I'll try
[16:27] <undecim> KAL: for example, listen to port 1234: "nc -lp 1234"
[16:27] <undecim> KAL: You can record it, too: "nc -lp 1234 | tee port.1234.log"
[16:29] <ramu> hi
[16:29] <Hekili> hey
[16:30] <ramu> how are you
[16:30] <ramu> what is this?
[16:30] <Hekili> im good, and new to this channel.
[16:30] <ramu> is that human
[16:30] <ramu> ?
[16:30] <ramu> robo?
[16:30] <ramu> im new here
[16:31] <sjm> !hi | ramu, Hekili
[16:31] <ramu> ok
[16:31] <ramu> how are everyone?
[16:31] <mbeierl> ramu: ubottu is a bot that auto answers, the rest of us are typically humans ... :)
[16:31] <Hekili> ohh .. gtg .. later all
[16:32] <ramu> ok
[16:32] <ramu> bye
[16:32] <ramu> ?
[16:32] <ramu> whats the use of this
[16:32] <ramu> ?
[16:32] <abhijit> ramu, bye
[16:32] <ramu> im new here
[16:32] <Pici> ramu: this is the official Ubuntu Support channel.
[16:32] <ramu> ohh
[16:32] <mbeierl> ramu: this is a support channel .. thanks pici
[16:32] <ramu> thats relaly gr8!
[16:32] <ramu> really
[16:33] <ramu> like ubuntu experts will be here to guide me?
[16:33] <i_is_broke> !enter
[16:33] <undecim> ramu: well, the expertise of each person in here varies. We're just people who like to help others.
[16:33] <mbeierl> ramu: yes.  but not always.  sometimes people don't the answers
[16:33] <ramu> ok
[16:34] <sjm> !offtopic
[16:34] <ramu> anyways i have some online support
[16:34] <conb123> Where do I go if I want to suggest that canonical add a package to its ubuntu repositories?
[16:34] <ramu> thats gr8!
[16:34] <ramu> ubuntu rocks
[16:34] <KAL> about that port listening. I enered "nc -l 22" while using ssh on 22port, and it gives me error: "Adress alredy in use" So is it becouse ssh already use 22 port? can't i listen on port which is used by other application?
[16:34] <ramu> i have some doobuts
[16:34] <jrib> !packaging | conb123
[16:34] <AnthLee> conb123 launchpad
[16:34] <ramu> on it
[16:34] <ramu> im using HP laptop
[16:34] <zgr> hi all, suddenly switching layout buy hotkey stopped working, what service enables keyboard layout switching? using 10.04 gnome x64
[16:34] <sjm> KAL: tcpdump -nnv port 22
[16:34] <erUSUL> KAL: no; each port can be used by only one app
[16:34] <undecim> KAL: Ah, you don't want to listen on a port, you want to sniff packets. You will need tcpdump or wireshark for that.
[16:34] <ramu> but, my ear phones doesnt work
[16:35] <undecim> KAL: Though with SSH, everything is encrypted, so it will just look like random data
[16:35] <ramu> ?
[16:35] <undecim> KAL: If you have the private keys of the both the server and the person connecting to SSH, you can decrypt it with some work
[16:35] <abhijit> ramu, ask your question in one line with all details. if anyone knows then they will answer'
[16:35] <ramu> ok
[16:35] <KAL> undecim it doesn't matter, what I want to get is that knowlege that there is any movement on that port
[16:36] <philinux> conb123: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[16:36] <KAL> so how can i get that?
[16:36] <undecim> KAL: Well, there should be and sshd log
[16:36] <ramu> im using HP laptop, but sound comes even from laptop speakers and head phones
[16:36] <undecim> KAL: like if you want to see if there are any failed login attempts
[16:36] <sjm> KAL: tcpdump -nnv port 22
[16:36] <undecim> KAL: You can also run "w" to see if anyone is logged int and from where
[16:37] <ramu> exit
[16:38] <zgr> what service enables keyboard layout switching? using 10.04 gnome x64; tried udev restart don't helps
[16:38] <sacarlson> anyone know the best way to take a webcam pic from cli?  I tried stream and I have problem with bright level on some pics.
[16:38] <ramu> use cheese
[16:38] <sjm> ramu:  try "/quit"
[16:38] <GauravButola> can someone plz give me the irc for chromium?
[16:39] <sacarlson> ramu: does cheese run from cli?  command line?
[16:39] <cj_> User back during 6.x. and haven't used it in a long while. Now consider myself to still be a new user. Installed Ubuntu 10.04, got comfy with it. Partition for ubuntu system, and a swap partition are setup. Have another partition ready for Windows 7.  ::MY ISSUES::  ((ONE)) I didn't realize I installed the 32-bit one instead of the 64-bit one.  ((TWO)) I hear windows 7 likes to nom nom other partitions and/or over-write the MBR
[16:39] <cj_> .  ::MY NEEDS:: ((ONE)) I need to backup my home folder so I don't mess things up.  ((TWO)) I need to install 64-bit Ubuntu OVER the 32-bit one, and maybe possibly keep my settings.      Is this Possible?
[16:39] <ramu> hi, im using hp laptop. i have ubuntu 10.04 when i connect head phones sound comes even from laptop speakers i have updates alsa mixer to .23
[16:40] <VCoolio> zgr: you can set hotkeys for that in the system > prefs/admin > keyboard settings
[16:40] <ramu> ?
[16:40] <sacarlson> ramu: I see no cli options on cheese.  is it undocumented in man cheese?
[16:40] <bhauff> What are the 5 postgres processes doing on a stock install of 10.04 server?
[16:40] <brummbaer> hahaha, man cheese
[16:40] <smkyo> ..
[16:40] <sjm> cj_, you can install Windows on the partition you left and then reinstall grub on the MBR.
[16:40] <retugu> Hi, I'm currently using a live cd and was wondering how do I copy the home directory on my hard drive to some removable media?
[16:40] <KAL> ok guys, one last question, my administrator told me that he will blok all my ports except for only few, how can i tell if this port can be open or not? (he blocks it on firewall)
[16:41] <undecim> cj_: Just get an external hard drive, copy your home directory, and install Win 7, letting it use the entire hard drive. Then install 64-bit Ubuntu and tell it to resize Win 7 (that's the default), and copy your home folder back. Re-install any applications you had, and your settings will be in your home directory already
[16:41] <mohanohi> hi
[16:41] <cj_> *** EDIT *** User back during 6.x. and haven't used it in a long while. Now consider myself to still be a new user. Installed Ubuntu 10.04, got comfy with it. Partition for ubuntu system, and a swap partition are setup. Have another partition ready for Windows 7.  ::MY ISSUES::  ((ONE)) I didn't realize I installed the 32-bit Ubuntu instead of the 64-bit Ubuntu.  ((TWO)) I hear windows 7 likes to nom nom other partitions and/or
[16:41] <cj_>  over-write the MBR.  ::MY NEEDS:: ((ONE)) I need to backup my home folder so I don't mess things up.  ((TWO)) I need to install 64-bit Ubuntu OVER the 32-bit one, and maybe possibly keep my settings.      Is this Possible?
[16:41] <zgr> whois VCoolio
[16:41] <mohanohi> is this problem solved? : http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/15648/
[16:41] <Pici> bhauff: There are no posgtres processes on a standard server install unless you chose to install the postgres server from the installer.
[16:41] <undecim> KAL: Try connecting to it using your internet IP. (get from http://wimi.com)
[16:41] <ramu> ?
[16:41] <cj_> When I tried to copy the Home directory, Ubuntu freaked out.
[16:41] <bhauff> Pici: hmm, I guess I need to ask my admin about it then, thanks!
[16:41] <cj_> Maybe this is because it is encrypted? I don't know
[16:42] <ramu> im usin hp laptop. whn i connect headphones sound comes even from lappy speakers. help me
[16:42] <hv>  
[16:42] <undecim> cj_: Just copy YOUR home directory (e.g. /home/cj ), not /home
[16:42] <bhauff> Pici: Would that be the same for apache processes?
[16:42] <cj_> I tried both, both events freaked out
[16:42] <Pici> bhauff: Indeed.
[16:42] <KAL> undecim how can i connect to this port?
[16:42] <sjm> cj_, do you have them mounted and readable?
[16:42] <cj_> Yes
[16:43] <ramu> this doesnt work
[16:43] <undecim> KAL: For example, if you have SSH listening on port 2345 (you should never have it listening on the default port if its connect to the internet) you could try "ssh -p 2345 6.7.8.9" where 6.7.8.9 is the IP address reported by wimi.com
[16:43] <bhauff> Pici: Do you know what the installer presents for those options to be installed?  Does it say do you want apache and postgres installed?  Or is it more of a would you like internet tools added?
[16:43] <sjm> cj_, how are you doing the copy?
[16:43] <ramu> ??
[16:44] <sjm> bhauff, just a guess (don't KNOW), but probably an option for a "web server"
[16:44] <KAL> undecim i have ssh on 22 port and nothing on that port which i want to check
[16:44] <abhijit> !sound | ramu
[16:44] <geoffmcc> cj_ did i catch you right that you encrtpted home dir
[16:44] <cj_> sjm I am opening to file managers, whatever is default for ubuntu, and right clicking USERNAME folder, clicking copy, switching to other, right clicking, paste
[16:44] <cj_> geoffmcc, yes, whenever ubuntu first installed it let me choose an option to encrypt
[16:44] <stewart_> Can I install ubuntu via wubi on a raid0 array?
[16:44] <bhauff> sjm: Do you know what I would want to do to get rid of postgres?  Just remove the packages?
[16:44] <Pici> bhauff: Its a list similar to the display that comes up for tasksel,  you can do tasksel --list-tasks  to see what was installed (they will be listed as 'i')
[16:45] <bhauff> Pici: cool, trying that now
[16:45] <sjm> cj_, try it on the command line:  cp -rp ~/ /path/to/save/to/
[16:45] <hv> ok
[16:45] <cyclist_2> Hello, there! I run a dual monitor set-up [15" and 17" in size]; does anyone know if it is possible to make the image [video/picture] on the laptop screen to equal the one on the external LCD monitor in quality? the image on the laptop is somewhat dull [in comparison...]; I have control over the brightness setting only for the laptop, but the external monitor allows me to change colour and contrast too.
[16:45] <cj_> sjm what is ~/ ?
[16:45] <sjm> bhauff, you might want to "aptitude purge <package name>"
[16:45] <KAL> undecim but i figured out that thing: I have my app which is client of a simple game, so i put there my internet IP and this port and tried to connect, and i opened tcpdump -nnv... on server and nothing appered. is that mean that there is no port open there or what?
[16:45] <undecim> cj_: ~/ is your home directory
[16:45] <sjm> cj_, "~/" stands for your home directory
[16:46] <bhauff> Pici: hmmm, the only i that I have are Basic Ubuntu server and openssh-server
[16:46] <sjm> bhauff, to get a more detailed list of all packages installed:  dpkg -l
[16:46] <Pici> bhauff: Then perhaps they were installed separately afterwards?
[16:46] <undecim> KAL: The client would have complained about not being able to connect. If you don't get anything from tcpdump, then that means the port is either closed or just not mapped to your server
[16:47] <sjm> bhauff, or just "aptitude"
[16:47] <cj_> sjm cp: cannot create symbolic link `/media/VERBATIM HD/USERNAMEBACKUP/.wine/dosdevices/e::': Operation not permitted
[16:48] <undecim> KAL: If you are just trying to test a service like SSH, just use the SSH command. If you are checking a port you plan to use later, use nc to start listening on the port and then use another nc to connect to it and see if you can transfer text between the two nc's
[16:48] <hv> :)
[16:48] <undecim> cj_: Ahh... you are trying to copy to a fat or ntfs drive...
[16:48] <hv> hey guys, how one gets registred here
[16:48] <sjm> !register | hv
[16:48] <cj_> undecim, should I cry now?
[16:48] <bhauff> sjm: thanks, do you know what a stock ubuntu 10.04 server should be using memory wise?  Does it use more if it has more?  I noticed on a slicehost article that their 10.04 on a 256mb VM was use about 25mb or ram, I have a 1GB VM and free -m is showing about 256MB ram used
[16:49] <undecim> cj_: Do this: "tar -cf /media/disk/homebackup ~/" where "/media/disk" is the path to your hard drive
[16:49] <undecim> cj_: That will put it into an archive that supports symlinks
[16:49] <bhauff> Pici: I don't think they were, I guess I need to talk to the admin, I am trying to come up with a bare bones gold image for creating several VMs and I don't need some of the stuff showing up in the process list
[16:50] <undecim> cj_: Or if you want to do it the graphical way, you could right-click on your folder, choose "Compress" or "Add to Archive" or whatever your version of Ubuntu calls it and save it as a .tar archive on your external drive
[16:50] <gizmobay> I just setup spamd and tested with the gtube test email and it works. Is there a log file? I'm always worried it'll filter out something that isn't spam.
[16:50] <jeng> hi guys, is there any way i can get my monitor resolution at the cli?
[16:50] <geoffmcc> cj_ i believe you may need to turn off the encrypted home dir first as a backup of encrypted would be useless, wouldnt it -- might wanna get a 2nd opinion on that
[16:50] <undecim> jeng: xrandr
[16:50] <erUSUL> jeng: xrandr -q ?
[16:50] <sjm> bhauff, you might try installing new from the mini.iso and only install the needed packages for a barebones system.
[16:51] <cj_> geoffmcc, would love to know how to unecrypt it :) I was searching for that for a while
[16:51] <jeng> xrandr says he can't open display
[16:51] <trashguy> hello
[16:51] <jeng> trashguy: hey there
[16:51] <geoffmcc> cj_ i never encrypt mine -- but i came across this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1135796
[16:51] <undecim> cj_, geoffmcc: If you copy from ~/, you are copying unencrypted files. Encrypted home directory stores encrypted files in /home/.ecryptfs/username
[16:51] <cj_> geoffmcc, I am paranoid
[16:51] <geoffmcc> cj_ i would get a 2nd opinion - i dont wont stear u wrong dir
[16:52] <trashguy> I have a server that sends mail out for a zenoss instalattion but there was a bad address and now mail is stuck in  my relay que on my mail server
[16:52] <trashguy> does ubuntuy by default deny all incoming mail
[16:52] <undecim> cj_, geoffmcc: As long as the files you are copying look unencrypted to you, they will be unencrypted to any program you run to make a backup
[16:52] <Dvyjones> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.04.1, but my computer hangs when trying to boot the LiveCD. The splashscreen just stops. Nothing is being printed to any of the TTYs.
[16:52] <erUSUL> trashguy: #ubuntu-server
[16:52] <cj_> undecim, so if I chose encrypt, then my actually home folder is in .ecryptfs?
[16:52] <Dvyjones> REISUB seems to be the only thing working.
[16:52] <undecim> cj_: Yes. But you don't want to copy that over unless you want your home folder to remain encrypted
[16:53] <sjm> Dvyjones, did you check the md5sum of the LiveCD?
[16:53] <Dvyjones> Yep.
[16:53] <undecim> cj_: You can, of course, rencrypt your files since you are storing unencrypted files to the tar archive
[16:53] <Dvyjones> And I did the disk check that's on the disk, no problems detected.
[16:53] <arundracula> Anyone can help.. I want to share my wvdial internet over wlan0.. I tried masquerade. After that I don't know what to do.
[16:53] <sjm> bhauff, you might also try in #ubuntu-server, too.
[16:54] <undecim> cj_: if you copy these unencrypted files to the tar archive, then you add them back to your new install later with encrypted home directory, the files will be re-encrytped for you
[16:54] <Jerusalem420> hey guys. Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. how do i set my mail default (when I click a mail link) to use gmail?
[16:54] <bhauff> sjm: thanks, didn;t know about it!
[16:54] <geoffmcc> undecim i thought he would need to decrypt thanks for clearing that up
[16:54] <dochiba> yo
[16:54] <rapage> is safer ubuntu then windows
[16:54] <dochiba> comment va les amis
[16:54] <sjm> bhauff, but it still might be best to start from scratch with the mini.iso.
[16:54] <maco> !fr | dochiba
[16:54] <dochiba> ya pas un seule francais
[16:55] <cj_> undecim, or is my perception of reality transparent...
[16:55] <undecim> cj_: No, you're right
[16:55] <cj_> undecim, I am in unfamliar territory heh
[16:56] <dochiba> c stylé sa
[16:56] <cj_> something@something-desktop:~$ tar -cf /media/VERBATIM\ HD/homebackup ~/
[16:56] <cj_> tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
[16:56] <cj_> tar: /media/VERBATIM HD/homebackup: Wrote only 4095 of 10240 bytes
[16:56] <cj_> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[16:56] <bhauff> sjm: ok, thanks for the advise
[16:56] <FloodBot4> cj_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:56] <cj_> Whoops
[16:56] <dochiba> whoops
[16:56] <undecim> cj_: Sounds like you ran out of space on the drive
[16:56] <cj_> but this disk is huge.
[16:56] <pat|nG> i've type in terminal : lshw -C network i got something broadcast=yes is this my wireless?
[16:56] <cj_> like... 2tb huge, and never used.
[16:57] <undecim> cj_; no wait... it's formatted FAT
[16:57] <cj_> good ol fat32
[16:57] <undecim> cj_: FAT has a filesize limit of 4GB
[16:57] <cj_> fat32 does?
[16:57]  * sjm thinks: now 2TB formatted as FAT???  
[16:57] <cj_> hold up....
[16:57] <undecim> sjm: Yes, large FAT drives seem to be a theme today...
[16:58] <undecim> Anyone know how to split up a tar archive while creating it?
[16:58] <cj_> I think my harddrive just went Poof
[16:58] <dakota_> Hello everyone, I am having quite a large problem, every time I install a package it stops around 95% and tells me the package is broken and wont install.
[16:58] <cj_> I can't find it anymore
[16:58] <undecim> cj_: There may be the option from the "add to archive" dialog to split up the archive
[16:59] <sjm> cj_, can you backup stuff off the verbatim backup drive and reformat it ntfs (or even ext3?)
[16:59] <dakota_> You need an app capable of creating split tar files like 7Zip.
[16:59] <undecim> cj_: how so?
[16:59] <GauravButola>  today I got the update for chromium on ubuntu lucid, after that whenever I close the chromium my monitor shuts down....
[16:59] <undecim> dakota_: Can 7z make split tar, or just split 7z?
[16:59] <cj_> undecim, I can't even find it in the disk utility
[17:00] <undecim> cj_: Check the power cable to it, unplug it, and plug it back into the computer
[17:00] <Guest53964> shut up
[17:00] <cj_> undecim, lets hope that doesn't corrupt it
[17:00] <sjm> cj_, in nautilus?  how about (command line) sudo fdisk -l
[17:00] <maco> Guest53964: be nice
[17:00] <undecim> cj_: unless you were writing to other files, it should be fine
[17:00] <Guest53964> no
[17:00] <dakota_> If I get the error message can someone help?
[17:00] <maco> !coc > Guest53964
[17:01] <abhijit> then get kicked.
[17:01] <maco> !guidelines > Guest53964
[17:01] <Katsumi32> Guest53964, peace man
[17:01] <maco> Guest53964: please read through the CoC and channel guidelines
[17:01] <erUSUL> undecim: http://paulbradley.tv/44/
[17:01] <cj_> undecim, maybe it is taking a while...
[17:01] <cj_> we will see
[17:01] <undecim> erUSUL: ty for the link
[17:01] <Jerusalem420> hey guys. Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. how do i set my mail default (when I click a mail link) to use gmail?
[17:01] <GauravButola> anybody? on the above question
[17:02] <lucy_> shutup
[17:02] <Jerusalem420> dunno gaurav
[17:02] <dakota_> Anyone!? This package error is very frustrating..
[17:02] <Jerusalem420> what i would do is roll back the install
[17:02] <undecim> cj_: Any idea how large your home directory is?
[17:02] <Jerusalem420> and wait a few versions to upgrade
[17:02] <maco> lucy_: who are you telling to shut up, and why are you being rude?
[17:02] <cj_> undecim, sjm geoffmcc lmao... I think I am just going to deal with my settings getting fubarred, install 7, and then reinstall ubuntu 64.
[17:02] <Jerusalem420> i had that same problem with one of the ubuntu releases a year or so ago
[17:03] <lucy_> sorry
[17:03] <Katsumi32> lucy_, peace please
[17:03] <cj_> undecim, sjm geoffmcc this seems like it is becoming a nightmare
[17:03] <undecim> cj_: wait...
[17:03] <cj_> waiting
[17:03] <lucy_> so sorry
[17:03] <Jerusalem420> so i rolled back and waited a few months to do the upgrade
[17:03] <undecim> cj_: If you want to keep settings of specific apps... like firefox history, etc...
[17:03] <Jerusalem420> worked fine then
[17:03] <cj_> undecim, yeah
[17:03] <geoffmcc> cj_ if it does come to that maybe just backup whole system tar cvpjf backup.tar.bz2 --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tar.bz2 --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys / then see what you can pull outa it after
[17:03] <lucy_> shut
[17:03] <undecim> cj_: YOu can just backup the dotfile for each one. For example, firefox stores settings in "~/.mozilla"
[17:04] <tEtra> Greets all. looking for a list of all kernel versions that have been available on 10.4. Any clues?
[17:04] <Katsumi32> lucy_, is a troll
[17:04] <Katsumi32> i think
[17:04] <cj_> nah, I will just pew pew everything
[17:04] <undecim> cj_: Or you can try to get your home directory under 4GB
[17:04] <cj_> Thankyou very much everyone for the help :)
[17:04] <maco> tEtra: http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux
[17:04] <undecim> cj_: k. You're data. Just want you to know all your options
[17:04] <cj_> absolutely
[17:04] <geoffmcc> cj_ good luck
[17:04] <lucy_> no im not
[17:04] <cj_> I wasn't that far in anyways, only a day
[17:04] <tEtra> maco: sweet thanks!
[17:04] <cj_> should be a total of maybe 45 minutes to set up again
[17:05] <jovan> is there official driver for sis graphic video?
[17:05] <maco> lucy_: i already sent you the channel guidelines and coc info when you were here as guest53964. please obey them
[17:05] <FalsAlarm> can i use the mysql root account to test mysql_connect or is that forbidden?
[17:05] <cj_> geoffmcc, undecim sjm, Extremely helpful, and majore props for the quick responses
[17:05] <Katsumi32> jovan, open source only i think
[17:05] <erUSUL> jovan: oficial? from manufacturer? no
[17:05] <undecim> cj_: no problem
[17:05] <aetaric> FalsAlarm: i would advise against it
[17:05] <lucy_> imso sorry
[17:06] <jovan> I looked everywhere without result
[17:06] <erUSUL> jovan: use the default driver that comes with ubuntu
[17:06] <jovan> there isn't propietary driver
[17:06] <erUSUL> !info  xserver-xorg-video-sis
[17:07] <Katsumi32> jovan, open source driver is already installed n your ubuntu u can check up hardware drivers also if there is nothing to active
[17:07] <lucy_> hi  jovan
[17:08] <tEtra> maco: what I'm seeing is 2.6.32-21. assuming latest. What I'm actually looking for is the list of kernel revs that have been available since 10.4 shipped.
[17:08] <lucy_> can some body be my  bff
[17:08] <IdleOne> lucy_: Do you have a Ubuntu support question?
[17:08] <FalsAlarm> on a default install of mysql server i notice there is a debian-sys-maint account existing, what is it for?
[17:08] <lucy_> no sorry
[17:09] <Katsumi32> lucy_, youre guy
[17:09] <IdleOne> lucy_: then please go to #ubuntu-offtopic to chat
[17:09] <lucy_> how
[17:09] <IdleOne> lucy_: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:09] <aetaric> lucy_: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:09] <Parabola|Work> I'm trying to find the exact location of the gcc binary file
[17:10] <Katsumi32> IdleOne, dont you see hes trolling
[17:10] <lucy_> sorry i cant
[17:10] <Parabola|Work> i'm using locate ,but not sure which is whcih
[17:10] <IdleOne> Katsumi32: Thank you.
[17:10] <Parabola|Work> i'm installing the vmware tools, and have to have its exact location
[17:10]  * aetaric debtes using the op command
[17:10] <aetaric> *debates
[17:10] <IdleOne> lucy_: then I have to warn you that if you continue being offtopic in this channel i will remove you.
[17:11] <aetaric> oh IdleOne is an op
[17:11] <lucy_> im sorry
[17:11] <aetaric> that's right... shutting up now
[17:11] <aetaric> Parabola|Work: which gcc
[17:11] <aetaric> in terminal
[17:12] <tEtra> Parabola|Work: look in /media for mounted vmware tools deb
[17:12] <Parabola|Work> aetaric, i have no idea, vmware tools installation says it needs the exact path to gcc
[17:12] <darren__> hey
[17:12] <Parabola|Work> tEtra, thats not even a relevant response.
[17:12] <erUSUL> Parabola|Work: « type -P gcc »
[17:12] <tEtra> yeah - just noticed that - sorry
[17:12] <lucy_> you cant  remove me
[17:12] <aetaric> Parabola|Work: right... exit the installer, and on the command line type, which gcc
[17:13] <Parabola|Work> i actually CTRL+ALT+F'ed into another tty
[17:13] <Parabola|Work> but i will check it now, sec
[17:13] <aetaric> Parabola|Work: however that is odd.. it has never asked me for the location...
[17:13] <Parabola|Work> awesome
[17:13] <Parabola|Work> /usr/bin/gcc
[17:13] <Parabola|Work> that was easy!
[17:13] <Parabola|Work> thanks
[17:13] <maco> tEtra: all versions since 10.04 development started are available on lp
[17:13] <FloodBot4> Parabola|Work: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:14] <aetaric> Parabola|Work: np.
[17:14] <maco> tEtra: i dont know what version was shipped on the cd
[17:14] <tEtra> maco: there's been many updates...
[17:14] <PHAT64> Does the UFW firewall in Ubuntu work well?
[17:14] <maco> tEtra: you'd have to look at the upload dates next to all of them i guess. lucid shipped on 29 april
[17:15] <jokle> Question: Installed ubuntu as wubi, allocated 17 gigs of storage for installation, i set a download location for lottanzb on external hdd for download, but, it seems as though the program is trying to store all the data in ubuntu somewhere before its finished, and upon finishing a file- it moves it to the external- i keep running into " ubuntu only has 56.5 mbs left of room, please clean up some space " any suggestions?
[17:15] <tEtra> maco: like to get a list of all updates since 10.4 shipped. any idea on how to go about that (upload dates I mean)
[17:15] <maco> tEtra: and actually... i think 21 was probably whats on the cd because it says "release"
[17:15] <tEtra> maco: ok. so everything after the '-' is the update?
[17:15] <maco> tEtra: as opposed to the others listed next to it, 24 (in "updates") and 25 (in "proposed")
[17:15] <pat|nG> i got an error in my sypnatics manager.... W:GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com lucid-update release: the following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976e.;... archive automatic signing key ...... how to fix?
[17:15] <ems> hi guys
[17:16] <ems> question
[17:16] <tEtra> maco: ah. ok thanks
[17:16] <lucy_> hi
[17:16] <maco> tEtra: -21.32 means its the 21st ABI and 32 means its the 32nd build overall
[17:16] <ems> is unbuntu up to date. because debian (and their channel) are giving me a whole lot of sh**
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> !release
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> ems:  it does not do 'rolling releases' like others disrtos do.. for a reason.
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> ems:  if you dont like that.. then dont use ubuntu
[17:17] <lucy_> 4 325462354625
[17:17] <ems> Dr_Willis, wtf is your attitude for
[17:17] <gubu> ems, it's a 6-month rolling release
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> You are confused. I have no attitude.. i stated facts..
[17:18] <ems> IF I dont like it, dont use it? I dont even know what you're talking about
[17:18] <IdleOne> ems: if you mean does ubuntu have all the latest versions of applications, then no.
[17:18] <jokle> Question: Installed ubuntu as wubi, allocated 17 gigs of storage for installation, i set a download location for lottanzb on external hdd for download, but, it seems as though the program is trying to store all the data in ubuntu somewhere before its finished, and upon finishing a file- it moves it to the external- i keep running into " ubuntu only has 56.5 mbs left of room, please clean up some space " any suggestions?
[17:18] <sinman> how do install bin files?
[17:19] <IdleOne> ems: Ubuntu aims for stability with the applications available in the repos
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> if you 'must' have the latest of everything (for some weird reason) then use a sourced based disrto.
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> sinman:  totally depends on what the .bin is exactly
[17:19] <abhijit> sinman, make then executables by doing chmox +x fine.bin and then ./file.bin
[17:19] <abhijit> yah
[17:19] <ems> Ok thanks
[17:19] <philinux> ems: ubuntu has stable release of common apps.
[17:19] <brummbaer> there's also a lot of beta/dev/sources available to add extra non-stable repos for specific packages if you like...
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> 10.10 is doing some changes in that area to allow a bit more flexibility.  with the PPA's and 'new' apps.
[17:19] <philinux> ems: and ppa's to get the latest
[17:20] <pat|nG> i got an error in my sypnatics manager.... W:GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com lucid-update release: the following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976e.;... archive automatic signing key ...... how to fix?
[17:20] <tEtra> maco: thank you for your help. I appreciate it.
[17:20] <bstarek> Hello everybody
[17:20] <sinman> Dr_Willis: it's Regnum Online
[17:20] <Katsumi32> pat|nG, put this error in google search box you will get the answer
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> sinman:   check their docs..  you proberly just run the binary then and i would suggest installing it to the users home dir somewhere if it asks where to isntall to. and dont run the installer as root either.
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> sinman:  chmod +x whatever.bin , then .whatever.bin
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> sinman:  oops.. ./whatever.bin
[17:22] <sinman> Dr_Willis: I get this error ./RegnumOnlineInstall_64.bin: No such file or directory
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> sinman:  then you either dident chmod +x it, or did a typo.
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> sinman:  use the tab key to complete the file name. saves on typos
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> sinman:  or you are not in the same directory as the file.
[17:25] <bernz> hi, if i want to downgrade my libportaudio2 to an older version, what's the best way? if i try to first uninstall the existing version, it will require removal of apps dependent on it (which i don't want to do). if i just build from cmd line and install, won't that desync something (e.g. synaptic)?
[17:25] <sinman> Dr_Willis: k thanxs i done the tab key and it didn't show a filetype, and now it's instgalling
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> bernz:  if the older version is in the repos. You can use the package manager to 'pin' the older version
[17:26] <Licuadora> I WANT 10.10
[17:26] <Pici> Licuadora : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Maverick/10.10 support/discussion.
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> Licuadora:  so go install it then.
[17:26] <Licuadora> stable version
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> Licuadora:  stable and 10.10 are not  =
[17:26] <bernz> dr_willis, apparently the old stuff hasn't been moved to the "official" place yet
[17:26] <Licuadora> :(
[17:27] <dakota_> I need some assistance..
[17:27] <bernz> Dr_Willis, and the bug i want to fix is in the svn of libportaudio2; i don't mind installing from source, i just don't want to break stuff :-)
[17:27] <geoffmcc> ask the ? and u might get the assistance
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> bernz:  you could build a .deb from the source. that way its easier to remove.. there may be PPA's of it out with newer versions that may have the bug fixed.
[17:28] <dakota_> Well I keep getting erros durn package installs wether from the terminal or package manager.
[17:28] <bernz> Dr_Willis, okay, those are good ideas
[17:28] <dakota_> I have the error codes here..
[17:28] <Licuadora> How do you build packages from source?
[17:28] <geoffmcc> bernz - whenever i need to install from source i use checkinstall so it creates a .deb
[17:28] <Licuadora> everybody talks about that
[17:28] <maco> Licuadora: check out #ubuntu-packaging for info on that
[17:28] <bernz> geoffmcc, ah, cool, i will look into that
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> !compile | Licuadora
[17:29] <geoffmcc> bernz just like normal - u ./configure and then make - but instead of make install you do checkinstall -D
[17:29] <dakota_> almost every package I install is broken or unusable after it is install..
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> Only thing i have had to compile recently was the latest version of 'weechat'
[17:29] <abhijit> dos box cant mount. help needed!
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  are you doing it right?
[17:30] <bernz> hmm... it looks like there's a PPA available for maverick (10.10)... that should do the trick
[17:30] <bernz> thanks for your help, Dr_Willis and geoffmcc :-)
[17:30] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, mount w: /home/abhijit/tc <enter>w: <enter>cd bin <enter>tc <enter>
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  let me check it here..
[17:31] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, ok
[17:31] <dakota_> Can somebody please assit me with such problem!?
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> after the mount command does it say 'W: mounted to whatever...' ?
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> because it just worked here fine
[17:32] <bstarek> I am trying to completely remove mysql-server-5.1 but it always gives me an error
[17:32] <geoffmcc> dakota_ not really sure what u mean
[17:32] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, can you launch tc after that?
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> whats tc?
[17:32] <Katsumi32> dakota_, i think you messed a bit with your ubuntu or u added some rubbish repistory
[17:32] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, turbo c.
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> i see the files in the dir i used...
[17:33] <Katsumi32> dakota_, thats why you have problmes installing packages
[17:33] <queso> I have a Hardy server.  /etc/mime.types doesn't include definitions for new MSOffice files (like docx), but it does for newer versions.  How can I check if the mime-support package has been backported to Hardy?
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  i dont have turbo C anywhere... so.. no :)
[17:33] <Pici> dakota_: You'll need to provide more information than that, what isn't working exactly? Are you getting an errors?
[17:33] <erUSUL> !backports
[17:33] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, ok
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> mount X:  /home/willis
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> x:
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> dir
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> shows my home files
[17:33] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, ok
[17:34] <dakota_> Well I install lucid on an OLPC 1.5, and so far the only packages I can install sucessfully is BZFlag and firefox, updates wont work, installs of packages wont work...
[17:34] <bstarek> mysql server 5.1 wont go away.....anybody to help please?:)
[17:34] <UnGato> hi, can somebody help me? i'd like to know if there's a cp command like wich displays a progress bar....
[17:34] <popey> UnGato: http://chris-lamb.co.uk/2008/01/24/can-you-get-cp-to-give-a-progress-bar-like-wget/
[17:34] <popey> UnGato: first hit on google ;)
[17:35] <Pici> dakota_: What architecture is that running? What does   uname -a   report?
[17:35] <aetaric> UnGato: or use cpio
[17:36] <geoffmcc> bstarek what do you mean wont go away, config files left behind?
[17:36] <UnGato> popey, i just' trying this, but it's not working for me...
[17:36] <dakota_> I am running x86 Via processor i386.
[17:36] <bstarek> geoffmc, it freezes everytime in synaptic
[17:36] <bstarek> geoffmc, and nothing goes away
[17:36] <Jerusalem420> hey guys. Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. how do i set my mail default (when I click a mail link) to use gmail?
[17:36] <UnGato> actually, i'm using Debian Lenny, with this architecture
[17:37] <UnGato>  2.6.26-2-686
[17:37] <bstarek> geoffmc, it wont uninstall at all
[17:37] <geoffmcc> use command line
[17:37] <geoffmcc> see if that works
[17:37] <philinux> Jerusalem420: system>prefs>preferred apps
[17:37] <dakota_> I get error "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[17:37] <sjm> bstarek, try "aptitude purge mysql-server-5.1"
[17:38] <bstarek> geoffmc, tried alredy but nothing :(....let me try again
[17:38]  * MengXingHun is away: 我只愿面朝大海，春暖花开...
[17:38] <maco> !away > MengXingHun
[17:38] <geoffmcc> ok, checking your error now
[17:38]  * MengXingHun is back (gone 00:00:25)
[17:38] <geoffmcc> bstarek apt-get -f install
[17:39] <maco> MengXingHun: please turn off that script
[17:39] <MengXingHun> ok..I'm sry
[17:39] <MengXingHun> off already
[17:39] <MengXingHun> :))
[17:39] <maco> MengXingHun: thank you
[17:39] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, i am getting thsi error: mount: only root can do that
[17:39] <MengXingHun> np :)
[17:39] <sipior> UnGato: for a general solution, have a look at pv (pipe viewer).
[17:39] <sjm> abhijit, try sudo
[17:40] <bstarek> geoffmc, still frozen
[17:40] <geoffmcc> bstarek you get same error from command line or it does nothing
[17:40] <sjm> bstarek, do you have any nfs mount?  Recently the only time I've had my system freeze is when my nfs locks up.
[17:41] <erUSUL> cpio in XXI century ? ...
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  you are using the mount command from WITHIN dosbox? not bash..
[17:41] <Cube``> hey, in LaTeX, how can i add line numbers to literature texts? i mean not code texts, but lines of prose tect that are numbered, say in a certain environment
[17:41] <abhijit> sjm, Dr_Willis ohh my bad. doing this from ubuntu termianl! sorry
[17:41] <bstarek> geoffmc, it stopped at "removing mysql..."
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:   :)
[17:41] <abhijit> :)
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  you can use the dosbox.conf files (i use one per game dir) to automate the mounting.
[17:41] <dakota_> And when I try to update it tells me somrthing about an error of "No Public Key"
[17:41] <geoffmcc> bstarek and i assume you did sudo or are root
[17:41] <sipior> erUSUL: well, we still use tar. i keep hoping pax will catch on...
[17:41] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, ok
[17:41] <gsp2009> hey all.. so this morning I hear lots of drive and network activity. I have been trying to figure out what is going on. Network traffic shows several outbdound connections to HTTPS (443). Nothing running such as p2p... anyone have any ideas?
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  taht way if i want to play Warlords. i 'cd DosGames/Warlords ;; dosbox' and it runs the game for me automatically
[17:42] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, hmm. will try it
[17:42] <sjm> gsp2009, run netstat -neap to see which programs are connected.
[17:42] <aeon-ltd> gsp2009: you on a secure site?, also are you watching a video or anything that involves streaming from HDD?
[17:42] <bstarek> geoffmc, yes always root
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  a read of the dosbox conf file/comments and docs. show a lot of neat tricks.
[17:42] <geoffmcc> bstarek also when last time worked correctly
[17:42] <erUSUL> sipior: gnu tar can create pax files ( it does not have some of the niftty features of pax command though)
[17:43] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, i can mount TC i can see all the folders and files inside. but then i type TC nothing happens
[17:43] <gsp2009> sjm.. did that and can only see system_bus_socket and hald
[17:43] <gsp2009> aeon-ltd: nothing streaming.
[17:43] <aeon-ltd> gsp2009: is this from boot?
[17:43] <geoffmcc> bstarek sorry man - hate to be that guy and say it but google loaded with pages on that msg - i just cant find one that singles out your problem
[17:43] <bstarek> geoffmc, i installed it last week but need to remove it
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  no idea on that.  dont you  need a tc.exe ?
[17:44] <sipior> erUSUL: sure, but i'm not interested in the file format. the nifty features are the point! :-)
[17:44] <UnGato> sipior: thanks, i'll take a look on this
[17:44] <gsp2009> aeon-ltd: nope... been up 12 hours.
[17:44] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, tried that too. but no luck
[17:44] <bstarek> geoffmc, dont worry man :)
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  try it with some simple games, perhaps you are doing somthing fundamental wrong.
[17:44] <aeon-ltd> gsp2009: gimp? anything that caches a lot, long firefox session?
[17:44] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, ok will try it. thank you though!
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  the abandonware sites often have some good dos games to test. :)
[17:45] <gsp2009> aeon-ltd: nothing running, but that doesn't mean that ff isn't borked... will check that out.
[17:45] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, abandonware.net?
[17:46] <daire> Hi All
[17:46] <super> hi all
[17:46] <gsp2009> aeon-ltd: interesting thing is that the outgoing connections are all to the same subnet.
[17:46] <super> 怎么都用英文
[17:46] <super> 晕的了
[17:46] <FloodBot4> super: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:46] <sjm> !zh | super
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  theres dozens of abandonware sites  -  some die, some come back. :)
[17:46] <aeon-ltd> gsp2009: runnning samba? apache?, anything server like?
[17:46] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, yah
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> abhijit:  http://www.abandonia.com
[17:47] <Katsumi32> wow i dont know there is ubuntu-cn thats really nice :)
[17:47] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, thakns
[17:47] <fumanchu182> During installation it asked me if I was required to log in, or log in automatically.  I would like to enable the feature that requires me to log in to decrypt my home directory enabled.  Is this possible post install?
[17:47] <super> Hi,all
[17:47] <abhijit> !irc | Katsumi32
[17:47] <Katsumi32> tnx abhijit :)
[17:47] <gsp2009> aeon-ltd: the only difference since yesterday is that I am using pidgin for IRC... I am starting to think that maybe that has something to do with it.. but I can't see why it would use traffic on 443.
[17:48] <Daw> Do any of you know why the super user password isn't functioning in terminal in Ubuntu 10.04LTS?
[17:48] <sjm> gsp2009, try xchat, it's "better" than pidgin.  :)
[17:48] <dakota_> it should be the same as your user Password if you use sudo -s..
[17:49] <super> NO
[17:49] <sjm> Daw, It's not set to anything you know at first.
[17:49] <gsp2009> sjm.. yeah. I normally use xchat.. but I tried pidgin to get everything in one spot... I should know better.
[17:49] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[17:49] <Daw> it says authentication failure
[17:50] <Daw> I typed su
[17:50] <Daw> then entered the password
[17:50] <sjm> Daw, the "ubuntu way" is to use sudo and not su.
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> Daw:  thats the problem then.
[17:50] <Daw> and I got authentication failure
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> !sudo | Daw
[17:50] <geoffmcc> daw sudo su
[17:50] <aeon-ltd> gsp2009: not sure, i'm pretty sure irc is not even secure(as in secure to use 443 anyway, but other messaging protocols use 443)
[17:50] <Guest7046> ghjdthrf
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> geoffmcc:  best to use 'sudo -s'
[17:50] <Daw> so type sudo?
[17:50] <geoffmcc> Dr_Willis i didnt know that
[17:51] <pie_time> where can i find out if a printer/scanner is compatible with ubuntu
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> geoffmcc:  :) Now ya do.
[17:51] <pie_time> !scanners
[17:51] <slow-motion> bye
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> !hcl | pie_time
[17:52] <sjm> Dr_Willis, just curious what's the difference between -s and -i?
[17:52] <Daw> it didn't ask for a password...  it automatically logged into root when I typed sudo su.  I think its because I set the permissions for the user to be the root
[17:52] <sjm> Dr_Willis, I'm still stuck with what I learned first:  habit says type:  sudo su -
[17:52] <gsp2009> aeon-ltd: ok.. this isn't good.. I have 5 outgoing connections on the following ports... 55695, 51147, 55609, 55562, 43749 etc... all to a block of IP's owned by Micro$oft.
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> sjm:  the 'enviroment' - one uses root users settings, other uses the initial users settings
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> sjm:  'sudo -s' is all you need to really use.
[17:52] <Screw> I have a question: Is it possible to install an Ubuntu to a pendrive? I have a 8gb pendrive and I have tried the ubuntu installer from pendrive and it worked well. But I would like to install to it.
[17:53] <Daw> thanks
[17:53] <sacarlson> with sudoer having this line myaccount ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL  ; why can't I get a cron @reboot to halt (turn off computer) from that account?
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> Screw:  i do that all the time. Be sure to tell the installer to install teh bootloader to the pendrive also.
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> Screw:  ive even installed a full install to a pendrive from a 'live' install on a 2nd pendrive
[17:54] <Screw> It worked well, i can boot from it.
[17:54] <duffydack> Screw, personally Ive found it to be a lot slower than using a liveusb with persistence.. but upto you.. its doable..
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> Screw:  or install to a usb-hard drive also works.
[17:54] <sjm> Screw, yes.  http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[17:54] <Screw> thank you!!!
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> a 'full' normal install to a pendrive seems to boot a lot faster for me then a persistant live setup
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> plus i can tweak the drivers easier.
[17:54] <aeon-ltd> gsp2009: using msn?
[17:54] <gsp2009> aeon-ltd: thanks for your help... for some reason... pidgin was swallowing its own face over connecting to WLM over https. I have killed it, and it stopped.
[17:55] <duffydack> true.. depends what you want from it..
[17:55] <sjm> Dr_Willis, do you mount the pendrive ro?  Or not worry about that?
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> the live cd/live setup - is such a disaster with my nvidia cards. :()
[17:55] <aeon-ltd> gsp2009: ok, good, nice that you found that out :)
[17:55] <gsp2009> aeon-ltd: you suggest something better to connect to msn? pidgin seems bloated
[17:55] <Screw> bootin and using ubuntu installer worked better and faster than boot cd on my computer
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> sjm:  i do a normal full install to my pendrive as if it was a normal hard drive. I dont make a swap parittion. since i always have one on the other machine hard drive it can use.
[17:56] <Coronade> ahhh... sweet sweet IRC in the noon-time hour.
[17:56] <sjm> Dr_Willis, no worries about flashes limited writes?  (mount noatime or such?)
[17:56] <supplicant> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.04 on a server with two sets of drives (using different RAID drivers) but can't get the installer to recognize either
[17:56] <sjm> flash's*
[17:56] <aeon-ltd> gsp2009: not sure, when i use pidgin, i'm only ever on for about 5-10mins. there is finch and bitlbee if you like cli
[17:57] <Coronade> wellp, g2g
[17:57] <aeon-ltd> gsp2009: empathy, maybe
[17:57] <gsp2009> aeon-ltd: ok.. thanks for all your help. I really appreciate it.
[17:58] <algnod>  /msg NickServ identify geheim
[17:58] <aeon-ltd> gsp2009: your welcome
[17:58] <Screw> I 'm trying to install ubuntu to pendrive. thank you for all! bye
[17:58] <aeon-ltd> algnod: err you might want to change that password
[17:58] <duffydack> ./ghost al...oh nvm :P
[17:58] <Cpt_Zyph> hey guys how well does your client work on a network with a CentOS server as the backbone..
[17:58] <algnod> yeah ...
[17:59] <Cpt_Zyph> i have been reading online and no major complaints but i wanted to hear from you guys first
[17:59] <Clappy> So, yesterday I was able to remove the Messaging Menu from the indicator applet, and play around with the row settings. Now I can't seem to find where I was able to do that. Anyone know?
[17:59] <duffydack> algnod, change the pass, really.
[18:00] <algnod> pwd changed, the chat window changed to quickly while i was typing, is that a bug :-)
[18:00] <tedcr20> when I run a program I am running out of memory (std::bad_alloc) .  It ran fine on a computer with more memory-- I've tried playing with my swap to get this to work, but even though I should have enough swap it is still crashing
[18:01] <Clappy> Anyone know where I can find the settings for the indicator-applet?
[18:03] <blockhead> mkisofs -R -o <name_new.iso> <directory_where_the_files_are>
[18:03] <blockhead> Can someone give me an example of this?
[18:04] <blockhead> mkisofs -R -o <name_new.iso> <directory_where_the_files_are> .......Can someone give me an example of this?
[18:04] <glebihan> tedcr20: you should probably ask on #ubuntu-devel or ##linux-coders
[18:04] <Daw_Re> Thanks for the support
[18:04] <LinuxReign> that command seems to create an ISO image
[18:05] <Daw_Re> Learning opensource I perceive a blessing
[18:05] <tedcr20> glebihan: thanks
[18:05] <Daw_Re> Now I no longer need to utilize that other OS I prefer to not name
[18:05] <b0tz> winblows XD
[18:06] <sacarlson> what is the correct syntax for shutdown?  I tried sudo shutdown time now  and get ilegal time value,  also tried 1, +1, +m1 , +s1.....
[18:06] <geoffmcc> sudo shutdown -h now for halt
[18:06] <blockhead> mkisofs -R -o <name_new.iso> <directory_where_the_files_are> .......Can someone give me an example of this? .........>> I'm trying to make 2 video files an ISO. OR, 2 video files on the same disk.
[18:06] <geoffmcc> sudo shutdown -r now for a restart
[18:06] <sacarlson> geoffmcc: cool let me try that
[18:06] <Pici> sacarlson: TIME isn't an argument, its a value.
[18:07] <blockhead> nvm
[18:07] <blockhead> I got it
[18:07] <taiyal> zlib1g-dev amd64 no longer installs a pkg-config file "zlib.pc", is this a Canonical "design choice" or a legitimate bug?
[18:07] <jpds> taiyal: Mostly likely not Canonical's fault.
[18:09] <jenda> Anyone know how I can add "bookmarks" or "favorites" to the "save as" dialog in openoffice.org 3.2? I am having trouble using it the way it is when installed in Ubuntu 10.04
[18:09] <Powerwork> guys just did an upgrade from karmic koala to lucid lynx and have problems with sudo as user "mark is not allowed to run sudo on localhost.  This incident will be reported."
[18:09] <sacarlson> Pici:  geoffmcc: well the sudo shutdown -h now worked!  now will it work in cron at @reboot?
[18:09] <jenda> At the moment, the dialog has me browse for ages before I reach my flash drive.
[18:09] <Powerwork> got visudo configured well %mark    ALl=(ALL) ALL
[18:09] <Powerwork> what goes wrong?
[18:09] <umc> anybody using ubuntu server on 32 bit ? are there any reasons not to use it (except the 3.5 gb ram limit)
[18:10] <jpds> taiyal: In fact, I can see it listed in the build log: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/48611731/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.zlib_1%3A1.2.3.4.dfsg-3ubuntu1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> jenda:  some times in those save dialogs. you can drag/drop a directory  onto them, and they will change to that diredtory
[18:10] <taiyal> jpds: that's maverics
[18:10] <taiyal> jpds: it's not there in the lucid version
[18:10] <gsp2009> umc.. i am using 32
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> umc:  it will be a tad slower at very math intensive tasks then a 64bit release would.
[18:10] <ubuntu> a
[18:10] <taiyal> they accidentally removed it in Lucid and brought it back in Maverick as far as I can tell
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> umc:  but proberly not that big a deal
[18:10] <sipior> Powerwork: the group isn't "mark", is it? you should probably drop the "%".
[18:11] <jpds> taiyal: Then, file a bug about it.
[18:11] <Powerwork> sipior, removing % doesn't work either. And there is no admin group and i added the group / user mark myself
[18:11] <taiyal> jpds: will do
[18:12] <umc> I'm asking because I seem to be getting kernel panic attacks, and not sure why they are happening. saw some posts that said some 64bit packages could cause problems. but first I'm gonna diagnose the hardware. disks are ok, gonna do a memtest next
[18:12] <erUSUL> umc: 32 bits is so 90's you wouldn't be the coolest kid on the block :)
[18:12] <sipior> Powerwork: i would add an admin group, and add yourself to it.
[18:12] <sipior> Powerwork: have a look at "man sudoers".
[18:12] <umc> erUSUL: I'll be satisfied if I'm just the uncool kid with a working machine :P
[18:13] <umc> Powerwork: are you trying to get sudo to run without a password ?
[18:13] <Ilay> is anybody knows how to allow one user (B) to login without password if another user (A) is already logged in?
[18:13] <Powerwork> umc, no. Add a new user with sudo privileges to disable root login later
[18:13] <glebihan> Ilay: I don't think that's possible
[18:14] <Ilay> glebihan, that's possible
[18:15] <geoffmcc> clear
[18:15] <glebihan> Ilay: have you read about it somewhere ? If so, I'd be interested to have the link.
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> i cant imagine why you would want to. :)
[18:15] <Ilay> just university task
[18:15] <umc> Powerwork: I have http://pastebin.com/CuzwFQB4 (that's without password too, but you can leave that out), and edit as root file /etc/group and add the user's name in the admin group, something like admin:x:114:umc
[18:16] <umc> you'll have an admin line in there
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> part of users A's startup scripts would be changeing system settings for user be. then setting them back after user A loggs out.. what it crashes or resets and never sets them back
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> Or else you make some sort of system demon thats watching for user A all the time. and if he logs in. it sets some settings..
[18:16] <philinux> Dr_Willis: What if one is set to auto login and you switch users?
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> That also sounds nasty.
[18:17] <Powerwork> umc,  ok thanks
[18:17] <Ilay> Dr_Willis, just using pam, apparmor, kerberos
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> There allready is a 'guest' user feature.
[18:17] <umc> Powerwork: you can comment line 29 and just leave line 28 without the #
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> Ilay:  are we doing your Homework for you?
[18:17] <Adil> Hi Guys, good afternoon
[18:17] <Powerwork> umc, ok
[18:17] <Adil> I have a persistent problem with my panel in lucid
[18:18] <geoffmcc> Dr_Willis wouldnt bashrc do that without a daemon
[18:18] <Polarina> How do I install the corresponding OpenGL 3.x headers with the current nvidia driver?
[18:18] <sipior> Dr_Willis: i forgot it was that time of the year again...
[18:18]  * umc is out to do a memtest
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> geoffmcc:  you want bashrc to be running admin type tasks when a user logs in.. thats even scarier. :)
[18:18] <Adil> it does not draw properly, as of now the only way to fix it to see the properties and then click on show hide buttons and then uncheck it again
[18:18] <sacarlson> why does sudo shutdown -h now  ask for a password in my script when I have myaccont ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL  in visudo?  is there no way to shutdown from a script in a sudo account?
[18:18] <glebihan> geoffmcc: plus, bashrc is only sourced when starting a bash shell, not on every login
[18:18] <Adil> has anyone else faced a similar situation?
[18:19] <icy`> hi, is there any way to determine latest kernel supported by 9.10 (karmic) ?  I want to manually patch it
[18:19] <Ilay> may be pam_env can help
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> sacarlson:  a 'nasty' work around would be to 'set the suid bit' on shutdown. - but then any user could run shutdown at any time and shutdown the machine
[18:20] <jenda> Dr_Willis: thanks, that could help. But I'd like to be able to see removable drives in the dialog.
[18:21] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: that's ok I'm the only user how do I set the suid bit?
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> jenda:  make some links from your users home pointing to them in /media/whatever for quicker accessing.
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> sacarlson:  'sudo chmod +s whatever'    You may want to read up on suid also. :)
[18:21] <jenda> Dr_Willis: ok, that could be a solution.
[18:21] <aeon-ltd> icy`: why don't you just update, but not dist-upgrade, then uname -a to see the kernel version
[18:21] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: ok cool that should fix it thanks
[18:21] <jenda> But still, why is the save dialog different in 3.2? Why doesn't it use Ubuntu's save dialog?
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> sacarlson:  i had a user named 'shutdown' whos default shell was... shutdown.. :)  i could login as him and shutdown the box.. heh. (no idea why i needed to do that now)
[18:22] <supplicant> trying to install 10.04 over Adaptec RAID but it won't recognize, can anyone help?
[18:22] <glebihan> Dr_Willis: talk about nasty workarounds...;)
[18:22] <uLinux> hello
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> glebihan:  it was a headless box. i just wanted to remotely shut it down fast...
[18:23] <jenda> Or, another solution - how can I easily downgrade to 10.04's standard version of openoffice.org?
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> bye all.. bbl
[18:23] <ubuntuser> see you later
[18:23] <AnthLee> open synaptic select the openoffice.org package and force version ubuntu 10.04
[18:23]  * LjL almost gave jenda !downgrade
[18:24] <icy`> aeon-ltd, er, are you suggesting I update so that another kernel entry would be automatically created?  then remove it and manually grab that version?
[18:24] <uLinux> I want to move text file to a directory but it asks if I want to replace a folder by that file?!
[18:24] <supplicant> uLinux:
[18:24] <uLinux> they both have the same name
[18:24] <erUSUL> uLinux: what is the command you issue
[18:24] <supplicant> you need to specify the full name
[18:25] <aeon-ltd> icy`: pretty much, or ask here for users to do a uname -a if they are on 9.10
[18:25] <glebihan> uLinux: that's probably because a folder with the same name exists in the destination folder
[18:25] <uLinux> I just use Cut and Paste
[18:25] <jenda> LjL: thanks :)
[18:25] <icy`> hm interesting
[18:25] <uLinux> glebihan: yes but one is a folder and other file is text
[18:26] <jenda> ah, LjL - not that kind of downgrade :)
[18:26] <icy`> aeon-ltd, or maybe is there a pretend/fake way to update so that it would show me what packages *would be downloaded* ?
[18:26] <erUSUL> uLinux: no matter two files can not have the same name in unix
[18:26] <jenda> Would ppa-purge do the trick? (revert ppa-installed openoffice to default version?)
[18:26] <aeon-ltd> icy`: apt-get update, but don't press y?
[18:26] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, i can play magic carpet game in dos box
[18:26] <AnthLee> jenda you can use synaptic to force an earlier version of the open office package
[18:27] <LjL> jenda: well it might sort of be valid for a single package too... especially when it's not really a single package but a bunch of important stuff, like openoffice. still, you can *try* by issuing "sudo apt-get install openofficepackage=versionumber", it may go well or it may go horribly :P
[18:27] <uLinux> so I cannot have 2 files in same folder: test.jpg test.mp3?
[18:27] <uLinux> omg
[18:27] <geoffmcc> mean streets in dosbox = classic
[18:27] <erUSUL> jenda: ppa-purge worked well for me.
[18:27] <Pici> icy`: apt-get upgrade -s
[18:27] <erUSUL> uLinux: test.jpg and test.mp3 are not the same. three chars odf the name are different
[18:28] <erUSUL> uLinux: you can not have two files named test in the same directory
[18:28] <abhijit> brb
[18:28] <uLinux> yeah
[18:30] <amanita_> Am I the only one who has a working pulseaudio with a stable and nice sound and low cpu usage?
[18:30] <erUSUL> no
[18:31] <sacarlson> this thing will still not shutdown even with the sudo bit set chmod +s .  it still wants a password.  how can I shut down with a script?
[18:31] <madmax_x> hey all
[18:31] <asix> s
[18:31] <asix> eloi
[18:31] <Cpt_Zyph> sacarlson i'm new here but can you kill the proc or something?
[18:31] <madmax_x> i have a setup question
[18:31] <madmax_x> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/ddqdq/hello_guru_howdoi_do_this_in_linux_or_what_do_i/
[18:31] <mmoebius> amanita_: maybe ;) what is your configuration (as a reference for a "working system") ?
[18:32] <madmax_x> im using ccsm and ati
[18:32] <asix> q tal eloi?
[18:32] <kucumber>  is it east to once ubuntu is installed install windows so I can setup a dual boot?
[18:32] <asix> tas b?
[18:32] <Pici> !es | asix
[18:32] <icy`> interesting
[18:32] <asix> ens u passarem b aket curs...xDxD
[18:32] <mmoebius> amanita_: A friend of mine has tons of trouble with it and we found no solutiuon so far :-(
[18:32] <kucumber> This is on a remote server, so I have no physical access
[18:32] <sacarlson> Cpt_Zyph: I can halt it or shutdown from a terminal but for some resoon can't shut down in a script
[18:33] <kete> iep
[18:33] <kete> helo
[18:33] <kete> hello
[18:33] <jenda> erUSUL: I can't install it with apt-get, what package is it in or how is it installed?
[18:33] <jenda> AnthLee: thanks, I'll try.
[18:34] <kete> Do u know how I can get the root password?
[18:34] <geoffmcc> sacarlson the script would need to be run as root to shutdown or restart
[18:34] <pat|nG> hi! i got a dual os...i got win7 and ubuntu 9.04...i got my wireless working on ubuntu 9.04 no problem on that...but in win7 i installed vbox and install a ubuntu 10.04 lucid...i can't find any wireless drivers from typing on the terminal lspci..does it mean i cant use wireless on my vbox?
[18:34] <Pici> !root | kete
[18:34] <erUSUL> jenda: in lucid you have to enable backports to get it. or just download the deb from a ppa that has it or packages.ubuntu.com
[18:34] <icy`> thx for ideas, Pici , looked at  sudo apt-get upgrade -s | grep linux   but i feel like 2.6.31-22  is still a bit low (currently on 2.6.31-14)
[18:34] <sacarlson> no it seems my problem is that I can get sudo to work without a password
[18:34] <kete> thank u
[18:35] <icy`> in general the OS should support 2.6.31-*  though, right?
[18:35] <sacarlson> geoffmcc: yes I guess need to be root but I don't think there is a root
[18:35] <Pici> icy`: Why do you think that is low? Thats the current version for karmic
[18:35] <erUSUL> pat|nG: you should learn what Vbox actually does... it emulates a complete computer with its own hardware. that does not include the wifi chip of the host computer
[18:35] <Cpt_Zyph> sacarlson i'm sorry i did not read what you ment right away you mean to shut down your machine in a script
[18:35] <icy`> Pici, so latest karmic only supports up to 2.6.31-22 ?
[18:35] <gsp2009> pat|nG: you need to use network bridge
[18:36] <AnthLee> you get it jenda?
[18:36] <sacarlson> Cpt_Zyph: yes turn off the computer after this script is done
[18:36] <ubuntu_> d
[18:36] <Pici> icy`: Thats all that is in the repositories.  You could try using a kernel ppa like the mainline one, but you'd be on your own in terms of support.
[18:36] <Cpt_Zyph> sacarlson i would post it on pastebin or something and have someone who knos scripts look at it
[18:36] <icy`> ok, ty
[18:37] <cips_f> hiii!
[18:37] <icy`> i'm just messing about in a VM anyway, for educational reasons ;P
[18:37] <sacarlson> Cpt_Zyph: well I can't get the sudo to run without a password and the line I have added for that is myaccount ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[18:38] <sipior> sacarlson: how are you invoking the script?
[18:38] <Kyle__> Anyone here use usbmount?
[18:39] <erUSUL> Kyle__: what does it do ?
[18:39] <geoffmcc> sacarlson only thing i can think of would be to sudo -s then run script
[18:39] <sacarlson> sipior: well at the moment I can't even get the line on a term to work without a password so it's beyound the script
[18:39] <cips_f> can we disable the services for startup which we dont know what are they ? (Certificate and Key Storage, PolicyKit Authentication Agent,Secret Storage Service,SSH Key Agent)
[18:40] <uLinux> what's the difference between 'deb' and 'deb-src'?
[18:40] <uLinux> apt line
[18:40] <LjL> uLinux: deb-src is a repository for source packages
[18:40] <sacarlson> I must be missing something in visudo that doesn't need a password.
[18:40] <jenda> erUSUL: thanks
[18:40] <jenda> AnthLee: working on it
[18:40] <Kyle__> uLinux: deb==compiled, deb-src==source code to be compiled locally.  I think.
[18:40] <erUSUL> jenda: no problem
[18:40] <geoffmcc> sacarlson unless i am mistaken if u give perm in visudo it will still ask for that users pw on shutdown
[18:41] <uLinux> LjL: I added both lines
[18:41] <uLinux> deb and deb-src
[18:41] <markus> who
[18:42] <sacarlson> geoffmcc: give perm in visudo?  how do I do that?
[18:42] <Kyle__> uLinux: OK.  That's fine.
[18:43] <smtx2> hi, i am using ubuntu 10.4 server and installed vsftpd ... confed it so far so good. but /etc/init.d/vsftpd start says i should use "service vsftpd start" which i did also then but there is no ftpd listening on port 21 *or anyhwere else* so i consider this a "bug" ?
[18:43] <geoffmcc> sacarlson one sec
[18:43] <sipior> sacarlson: would you be willing to pastebin your /etc/sudoers? (i realise that might be a slightly awkward thing to ask)
[18:43] <darren__> quit
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> smtx2: test by using ftp to localhost. If it connects then its fine
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> darren__: its /quit
[18:44] <rajmahendra> How can i install Filezilla in ubuntu ?
[18:44] <pat|nG> erUSUL: dude u mean if i got connected to my wireless from win7 and open my vbox for my 10.04 lucid distro it will connect me directly to the internet? sorry for being so dumb... :(
[18:44] <cips_f> can we disable the services for startup which we dont know what are they ? (Certificate and Key Storage, PolicyKit Authentication Agent,Secret Storage Service,SSH Key Agent)
[18:44] <geoffmcc> sacarlson http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-allow-users-to-shutdown-server.html
[18:44] <erUSUL> rajmahendra: sudo aptitude install filezilla
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> rajmahendra: its in the repo. Its quite bloated for an ftp client
[18:44] <zenlunatic> !help
[18:44] <sacarlson> I'm not sure what I did but I modified visudo again just took out a comment and now it let me shutdown on terminal
[18:45] <erUSUL> pat|nG: it should. vbox will create a lan between ubuntu and windows. and windows will "share" the connection with ubuntu.
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> cips_f: i'd reseaerrch what they are first to make an informed decision
[18:45] <geoffmcc> sacarlson, well at least you got it working
[18:45] <panfist> i have SSH'd into another machine with X forwarding but when i try to run an X app it says "can't open display sshclient:10.0"
[18:45] <sacarlson> geoffmcc: not sure seems I had it this far before I tried to fix it
[18:45] <sipior> sacarlson: out of curiosity, did you make the original edits to the file using visudo?
[18:46] <sipior> sacarlson: or your normal editor?
[18:46] <sacarlson> sipior: yes
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> panfist: when you connected did you use -X option.? If the client is windows based have you installed xming?
[18:46] <sacarlson> sipior: but I might have halted before I saved it
[18:46] <sipior> sacarlson: that would be problematic :-)
[18:46] <zer0her0> quick question, anyone do any video editing in ubuntu?  I don't need anything fancy, just a touch of trimming of video clips coming from a flip camera
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> zer0her0: pitivi, avidemux and kino are 3 possible solutions
[18:47] <h00k> zer0her0: Also, OpenShot
[18:47] <zer0her0> ActionParsnip: dod you use any?
[18:47] <zer0her0> s/dod/so
[18:47] <gsp2009> smtx2: any record of the service start or stop in the logs?
[18:47] <zer0her0> h00k: thanks as well.
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> zer0her0: no. I only know of them
[18:48] <zer0her0> thanks.
[18:50] <sacarlson> nope after reboot I still can't use sudo with no password on anything even sudo ls
[18:50] <pat|nG> erUSUL: dude! thanx alot! i'll try it out... ;)
[18:50] <cips_f>  ActionParsnip: you know how to start services manager which have to be on administrator menu ?
[18:51] <erUSUL> pat|nG: no problem
[18:51] <cips_f> how to start services manager which have to be on administrator menu ?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> cips_f: not used services manager. I thought you were using server?
[18:51] <kjcole> How would I create a series of dummy placeholder movies containing just a number?
[18:51] <geoffmcc> sacarlson is this something your launching on demand or is cron going to run script
[18:52] <gsp2009> is anyone really familiar with swappiness? right now I have it set to 1, the default is 60. Any idea what is best for performance or is this based on hardware?
[18:52] <cips_f> ActionParsnip: server ? no server. but i need to disable some services. like Bluetooth.
[18:52] <zer0her0> thanks guys.  i'll research those options :)
[18:52] <gsp2009> the ubuntu doc is vague
[18:52] <kjcole> (There's a psych experiment that I'm building the application for, and it has lots of stimuli movies.  I don't have access to the movies, and want to randomly select movies, but know when the list is exhausted.
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> gsp2009: if you have 1gb or more then swappiness 0 is fine
[18:52] <sacarlson> geoffmcc: cron will run the script but now at reboot I can't get sudo to work with no password so no can do
[18:52] <smtx2> gsp2009: found it, was an typo in the config
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> !boot | cips_f
[18:53] <kjcole> So, for 32 movies, if I had a number in each one, I'd know which ones I'd seen.)
[18:53] <geoffmcc> run script under root crontab
[18:53] <gsp2009> ActionParsnip: perfect.. that is what I needed to know. Thanks.
[18:53] <gsp2009> smtx2: good to hear.
[18:53] <geoffmcc> sacarlson run script under root crontab then will restart because running as root
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> gsp2009: you can add extra options in sysctl.conf to get a faster web connection too
[18:53] <geoffmcc> sacarlson - maybe that not safe though
[18:53] <cips_f> ActionParsnip:  i need to open services manager. not boot options.
[18:54] <gsp2009> ActionParsnip: that would be good.. what's the variable name or option?
[18:54] <cips_f> http://www.tuxradar.com/files/LXF114.banish.ubuntu_services.jpg ActionParsnip
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> gsp2009: its a few
[18:55] <cips_f> ActionParsnip i need to open that.
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> gsp2009: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-251509.html
[18:55] <sacarlson> geoffmcc: I think I found the problem,  the NOPASSWD must be the last in the visudo.  I thought it was but I scrolled and found there was more in it.
[18:55] <Sybock> Does anyone have any idea why I can't drag items from one monitor to the other?
[18:56] <gsp2009> ActionParsnip: Nice! Thanks... off to read. :)
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> cips_f: that's in the startup items under preferences. Bluetooth and such are there. I think you will need to update the boot to remove the bluetooth service from running before the OS loads
[18:56] <geoffmcc> sacarlson: if you have any more troubles this looks a little more clear than last link -- http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/315/how-to-shutdown-and-reboot-without-sudo-password/
[18:57] <cips_f> ) ActionParsnip i need to open services manager i mean that gui.
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> gsp2009: a local dns service speeds things up too
[18:57] <cips_f> but how. i will disable many thinks not just bluetooth.
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> cips_f: not sure but I think the links ubottu gave may outline it
[18:58] <cips_f> !services
[18:58] <sacarlson> geoffmcc: well I missed the first one that might have had the answer but I think I might have it now.  we will know in 200 secounds
[18:58] <geoffmcc> sacarlson, oh u didnt notice first link -- sorry, but like i said the one just sent is way more clear
[18:58] <maleldraconis> Does anyone know of a utility that indicates which lock keys are active?  I'm looking for something that I could add to my top panel
[18:59] <maleldraconis> I'm running an ASUS EEEPC 1000he with Ubuntu 10.04LTS
[19:00] <trism> maleldraconis: lock-keys-applet
[19:00] <sacarlson> ok now after reboot I can sudo ls so it should work now
[19:01] <maleldraconis> Yeah, I installed it from Ubuntu Software Center, but it doesn't seem to be working, and I can't find it anywhere..
[19:01] <geoffmcc> sacarlson hope works out for ya
[19:01] <sacarlson> geoffmcc: 90% probable
[19:02] <bjaanes> Hey, I have been setting up my NFS server and exported some shares and stuff. I see now that permissions and owners are going to be troublesome when people on my network connect to the server. Is there any way to force owner, group and/or permissions when mounting from fstab?
[19:02] <bjaanes> Sort of like in Samba i suppose, but i want NFS :)
[19:02] <geoffmcc> sacarlson in linux that remainder of 10% can = alot
[19:02] <sacarlson> geoffmcc: just stupid not thinking there was more in he file.  my other that I compared was shorter
[19:02] <maleldraconis> Actually, nevermind, I found it
[19:03] <cips_f> ActionParsnip can you open services and open from system monitor which is command for it ?
[19:03] <erUSUL> bjaanes: no; nfs is completly integrated with unix permissions. you have to sync UID's across the network or use very permissive perms
[19:04] <AndyGraybeal> can anyone recommend a WPA2 compatible PCMCIA card for a dell inspiron 5000e that works with ubuntu?
[19:05] <sacarlson> geoffmcc: THAT WAS IT!!! it works!  lesoon learned, never think that just because it's not on the screen that there isn't more in the visudo file.
[19:05] <T999> russ
[19:06] <waheed> hi there
[19:06] <bjaanes> erUSUL: damn xD NFS is somewhat retarded :D But okey. Would it be lame if I used like a script to keep all permissions exactly like i want them? (something like: chown -R user:group /path/to/share)
[19:06] <cips_f> ActionParsnip please
[19:08] <geoffmcc> sacarlson lol, least you got it figured out -- page down is your friend, haha
[19:08] <glebihan> cips_f: looking for the command to run the system monitor ? under gnome ?
[19:09] <T999> как мне установить РИПОЗИТ ДЛЯ  U,UNTU TWEAK
[19:09] <cips_f> glebihan: no. i want command for services setting (or manager whatever it is). i have to disable some of them. i need a gui. i have delete from menu :(
[19:09] <erUSUL> !ru | T999
[19:09] <cips_f> glebihan: open the services from menu. and open system monitor. it writes the command there...
[19:09] <Chiros> Has anyone found an open source accounting software that will work with Ubuntu for small businesses?
[19:10] <glebihan> cips_f: don't know about such a tool
[19:10] <berkgocay> hello
[19:10] <cips_f> glebihan: on administrator menu. there is a services settings. but it writes just services..
[19:11] <berkgocay> i have a serious problem..
[19:11] <cips_f> glebihan: please open it...
[19:11] <glebihan> cips_f: I don't have it, what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[19:11] <berkgocay> just installed ubuntu on my old pc and i cant get my usb wireless adapter to work
[19:11] <gsp2009> too bad Chiros didn't want an answer...
[19:11] <cips_f> http://www.google.com.tr/images?hl=tr&q=ubuntu+services&safe=off&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi glebihan:
[19:11] <berkgocay> i did install ndiswrapper and the driver
[19:11] <cips_f> glebihan: i run ubuntu 10.04
[19:11] <geoffmcc> berkgocay, what kind adapter
[19:11] <berkgocay> us robotics usb adapter
[19:11] <trism> cips_f: the Services item in the Administration menu was removed several releases ago because it is not compatible with upstart
[19:12] <cips_f> trism: so now. what we are goign to do ?
[19:12] <berkgocay> ndiswrapper defines the adapter as wlan0 but i cant do scanning
[19:12] <berkgocay> its not present in ifconfig
[19:12] <cips_f> trism: i dont need many services from there...
[19:12] <berkgocay> any help ?
[19:13] <berkgocay> model = usr805422
[19:13] <rapage> hey guys
[19:13] <aliverius> i migrated my hdd to a new mobo, and now the NIC is reported as eth2
[19:13] <aliverius> how can i change this?
[19:13] <glebihan> cips_f: services-admin
[19:14] <rapage> if case I buy a bigger HD, can I just copy everything from the ubuntus partitions onto the new HD and run awey? or do I need reinstaloll
[19:14] <erUSUL> aliverius: "sudo rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" and reboot
[19:14] <berkgocay> when i type ifconfig i just see 'lo' but not wlan0
[19:14] <geoffmcc> berkgocay http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227291&highlight=805422
[19:14] <aliverius> erUSUL: thank you
[19:14] <berkgocay> i checked that
[19:14] <waheed> need help regarding ircd-ircu on unbuntu it worked for once after restart cant see thr process
[19:14] <panfist> ActionParsnip sorry for the long reply (i had the question about X forwarding over SSH). yes I used -X. the client is ubuntu
[19:14] <trism> cips_f: need to edit the files in /etc/init until a suitable replacement is created, either completely by renaming them to something that doesn't end in .conf, or adding "and never" to the start on line
[19:14] <cips_f> glebihan:  this command not found.
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> aliverius: you can name nics based on mac but if it isn't causing an issue its ok to leave
[19:14] <michal1> my integrated mic doesn't work.read the manual, nothing about it in it.can anyone helpplease?
[19:14] <MaMoUs> where can i find Creative Sound blaster surround 5.1 USB driver ?
[19:15] <berkgocay> i still have intrepid maybe it s the problem ?
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> panfist: is the server ubuntu and did you use openssh-server?
[19:15] <glebihan> cips_f: well I don't know then, but I know there used to be a tool like in previous versions of Ubuntu, I don't remember seing it since Ubuntu uses upstart
[19:15] <panfist> yes and yes
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> MaMoUs: run: sudo lshw -C sound ,webseatrch the product line
[19:16] <glebihan> berkgocay: do you see it with "lsusb" ?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> panfist: hmm default is to allow x forwarding but i'd double check. You may have to export DISPLAY to something then run it
[19:16] <berkgocay> yes i do
[19:17] <panfist> on the client's local shell, DISPLAY is set to :0.0 so i did export DISPLAY=sshclient:0.0 on the ssh connection to the server and it still won't work
[19:18] <panfist> might it have something to do with permissions on the X display? the users on the client and server should be the same
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> panfist: what exact error do you get?
[19:18] <panfist> Error: Can't open display: sshclient:0.0 where sshclient is the hostname of the client
[19:18] <cips_f> trism: i need to rename these files under init directory ?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> panfist: you could try running an app with gksudo, just to test
[19:19] <glebihan> berkgocay: did you add "ndiswrapper" to /etc/modules ?
[19:19] <berkgocay> well, i just installed ndiswrapper via make install .. etc
[19:20] <glebihan> berkgocay: could you check the content of /etc/modules then ?
[19:20] <ndrew> hey folks
[19:20] <panfist> gksudo isn't installed on the server...
[19:20] <trism> cips_f: for the upstart services you want to disable, this will completely disable them (can't start them manually, such as ssh.conf to ssh.conf-disabled to disable sshd), if you want to to be able to start them with the service command you need to edit the file and add "and never" to the start on line
[19:20] <panfist> also, root's display env variable isn't set...
[19:20] <ndrew> are 802.11n transfer rates supported with Intel 4965?
[19:20] <panfist> i'm not sure if messing about with that is a good idea
[19:21] <unluckier> is there something like lighty2go for ubuntu. I'd like a webserver+php+DB that I can start on demand and not running otherwise
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> panfist: are you running any firewall rules on the server side
[19:21] <berkgocay> its empty
[19:21] <glebihan> ndrew: you should ask on ##hardware
[19:21] <panfist> only if there are any firewall rules by default on ubuntu server. i think the answer is no
[19:21] <glebihan> berkgocay: well add "ndiswrapper" to it
[19:21] <ndrew> glebihan, thx!
[19:21] <cips_f> trism: i just will rename the file. it is not enough ?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> panfist: ahhh do you have an x server on the server?
[19:22] <berkgocay> in front of the # ?
[19:22] <glebihan> berkgocay: no add it as a new line at the end
[19:22] <geoffmcc> unluckier xampp?
[19:22] <trism> cips_f: yes, upstart will not run anything in that directory if it doesn't end in .conf
[19:22] <panfist> i don't know...but the ssh server is actually a client of the ssh client's x server in this case
[19:22] <glebihan> !who | berkgocay
[19:22] <cips_f> trism:  ok thank you!
[19:22] <cips_f> so much!
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> trism: weird how it does that ain't it, considering file extensions are fairly meaningless
[19:23] <panfist> or do i have it messed up...this shit confuses me
[19:23] <michal1> my internal mic doesn't work. tried everything. can anybody help?
[19:24] <trism> ActionParsnip: yes, but it seems to be the trend with many of the /etc config directories lately
[19:24] <h00k> !language | panfist
[19:24] <glebihan> michal1: have you checked that it's not muted using "alsa-mixer" ?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> panfist: you need some of the x11 stuff installed to be able to forward. I'll see if I can find stuff
[19:25] <panfist> some X stuff is installed
[19:25] <michal1> glebihan: i did it's not.
[19:25] <bjaanes> How wrong would it be to run a permission-set script hourly (or something like that) on my NFS share? The script takes about 10-20 seconds to run. Most stuff is retained ofc, but would it be bad for performance and hd?
[19:25] <unluckier> geoffmcc I'd like it to not be running at all before and after I need it
[19:25] <panfist> i'm pretty sure if you install an app that uses X with the package manager that it will install the pacakges requried to meet the dependencies, including X packages
[19:26] <geoffmcc> unluckier i thought thats how xampp was but it been a while, sorry wasted your time
[19:26] <MagicJ> I have a very simple ap that I would like to implement by having the computer boot from CD, log on, load the browser and go to the home page.  I can make these changes on the hard drive, how do I create a modified live CD
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> panfist: may help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/forwarding-x-from-a-command-line-only-server-761751/
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> !remaster | magicj
[19:27] <unluckier> geoffmcc I did not look into xampp yet. I'll see if it fits my needs. thanks
[19:27] <glebihan> berkgocay: still there ?
[19:27] <aliverius_> i have a k8 cpu. i have loaded powernow-k8 yet /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/ contains no frequency stuff. what's wrong?
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> panfist: what are you wanting to x forward?
[19:27] <geoffmcc> unluckier you could also just disable the startup of apache and sql on startup too
[19:27] <berkgocay> glebihan: yes, ill be adding
[19:27] <waheed> need help regarding ircd-ircu it worked for once after restart cant connect to irc
[19:27] <bernz> can someone recommend a guide to installing/uninstalling packages on a debian-like system (i.e. ubuntu)? i want to adjust my jack libraries, but there are so many dependencies, it's nightmarish to think of reinstalling everything even if i manage to upgrade jack :-/
[19:28] <panfist> it's a python package that does graph visualization
[19:28] <panfist> part of a big python project that lives on the server
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> panfist: I see, funky stuff
[19:28] <Spanky> Anyone know of a good guide to help me install flash player on ubuntu 64bit ?
[19:28] <MagicJ> ubottu - thank u - u gave me some reading there - thanks!
[19:28] <papertigers> anyone know if those apple magic trackpad drivers in 10.10 work for the touchpad on the laptops?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> !flash | Spanky
[19:28] <Pici> papertigers : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Maverick/10.10 support/discussion.
[19:29] <Torpedoke> hi all
[19:29] <Torpedoke> a little question has anybody experience with a ipod touch on ubuntu?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Torpedoke
[19:30] <michal1> my internal speakers and internal mic not working. any suggestions???
[19:30] <dyne> Hello. I was wondering if anyone can help me with my sound. I tried to manually upgrade my ALSA and I have no sound whatsoever now. I simply don't know how to revert what I did, is there any way I can clean slate my sound configurations without having to format?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Torpedoke: there is a few commands on omgubuntu about the new libs for ipod things
[19:30] <Torpedoke> omgubuntu?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Torpedoke: its a fanboy website but occasionally has something of vague value
[19:31] <Torpedoke> ok thanks I will check it out
[19:32] <Torpedoke> I'm quite a newbie to ubuntu :)
[19:32] <waheed> need help for ircd-ircu it worked for once after restart its not working
[19:33] <berkgocay> glebihan: i added it to the list
[19:33] <glebihan> berkgocay: now you'll have to reboot in order for the module to be loaded
[19:33] <glebihan> berkgocay: I'll be there, let me know if it worked
[19:33] <berkgocay> glebihan: yes its rebooting
[19:33] <glebihan> berkgocay: ok
[19:35] <Kurlon> Afternoon all.  Is there a way to change the kernel console setting from tty to serial after the kernel is loaded?
[19:36] <MichealH> Kurlon: I dont think so
[19:36] <JuJuBee> If I want to have sub.domain.com point to /var/www/sub how do I go about that?
[19:36] <MichealH> Kurlon: I think you need to do it just at boot
[19:36] <dyne> Hello. I was wondering if anyone can help me with my sound. I tried to manually upgrade my ALSA and I have no sound whatsoever now. I simply don't know how to revert what I did, is there any way I can clean slate my sound configurations without having to format?
[19:37] <glebihan> JuJuBee: using Apache ?
[19:37] <JuJuBee> glebihan: yes
[19:37] <{g}> Good evening Ubuntu People! Is there a way to find out if 2 virtual machines are located on the same physical machine when you have root access to both virtual machines?
[19:38] <MichealH> huff3r: Use .htaccess  http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2007/06/13/redirect-a-subdomain-to-a-directory-using-htaccess/
[19:38] <amanita_> {g} no, though my app can locate if you are on two ore more channel asking the same Q :-D
[19:39] <glebihan> JuJuBee: create a new VirtualHost in /etc/apache2/http.conf
[19:39] <{g}> amanita_: great. what other apps do you have?
[19:40] <cocobuster> g
[19:41] <glebihan> JuJuBee: something like that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/493775/
[19:41] <JuJuBee> glebihan: you mean in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[19:41] <glebihan> JuJuBee: can be either one
[19:42] <JuJuBee> do I need to create a separate file like sites-available/sub.conf ?
[19:42] <glebihan> JuJuBee: but yes sites-available is ok
[19:42] <berkgocay> glebihan: i couldnt boot the pc, does fsck and stuff
[19:42] <JuJuBee> my httpd.conf is empty
[19:42] <Torpedoke> can't somebody else help me out with my ipod touch?
[19:42] <glebihan> JuJuBee: that would be better, even if not necessary
[19:42] <kholzer> I have the netbook remix installed on a netbook of mine and want to switch to the standard GNOME UI, what packages do I need to uninstall/install to do that?
[19:42] <robo_> hi: when you update an application in ubuntu, are you only fixing bugs or are you also adding new features?
[19:42] <glebihan> JuJuBee: it is by default
[19:42] <glebihan> berkgocay: let fsck running
[19:43] <berkgocay> glebihan: it gives a fail at avahi-daemon
[19:43] <berkgocay> glebihan: and its stuck now
[19:44] <glebihan> berkgocay: what error do you get ?
[19:44] <aeon-ltd> robo_: both, but usually just one at a time, bug patches are more frequent
[19:44] <berkgocay> glebihan: timeout reached while wating for return value could not receive return value from daemon process
[19:44] <Kurlon> Drat, that's what I was afraid of, thanks for the confirmation.
[19:45] <JuJuBee> glebihan: do i need NameVirtualHost * at top?
[19:45] <berkgocay> glebihan: and now its stuck at starting common unix printiing system cupsd
[19:46] <glebihan> JuJuBee: not if it's already specified elsewher
[19:46] <purplefool> hey folks, i am using an old pentium II box with an older grfx card.  i was wondering if there is a way to improve video playback as at the moment i get to watch slide shows or just still pictures.
[19:46] <glebihan> berkgocay: so it's not stuck if you're stuck at different stages
[19:47] <JuJuBee> glebihan: I added that to /sites-available and ln -s in sites-enabled  restarted apache and get [Tue Sep 14 14:46:20 2010] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[19:47] <Brandon_> hey guys, I just reformatted my flash drive, and it had a lost+found folder, which I removed, can it do any harm?
[19:47] <berkgocay> glebihan: btw sorry for these newb questions, my experience with ubuntu is really small..
[19:47] <aeon-ltd> purplefool: pentium 2, i wouldn't be using ubuntu for starters look into other distros that are extermely lightweight.
[19:47] <djrazr> Hay guys... need ur help .... got a graphic problem from installing on .... red stripes
[19:47] <glebihan> berkgocay: no problem
[19:48] <glebihan> JuJuBee: yes, should be "NameVirtualHost sub.domain.com:80"
[19:48] <dyne> Hey guys, sorry if I'm insisting too much I was wondering if anyone could help me out with my sound..
[19:48] <gdb> Brandon_: It will be recreated by fsck if it's needed.
[19:48] <gdb> purplefool: No, there isn't.
[19:48] <djrazr> for example the default background wallpaper god red stripes on it..
[19:48] <geoffmcc> JuJuBee: http://articles.slicehost.com/2008/4/29/ubuntu-hardy-apache-virtual-hosts-1
[19:48] <Brandon_> gdb, so I don't have to do anything?
[19:49] <purplefool> aeon-ltd, like what would you suggest?  this will end up being the secretary's computer at our school, so it doen't have to be 'great', but since mine is dead, i am using it as a temp.
[19:49] <djrazr> no one who can help me?
[19:49] <berkgocay> glebihan: well its been 6-7 mins and its in the same state but the '_' does blink
[19:49] <JuJuBee> geoffmcc: thanks, I will take a look
[19:49] <gdb> Brandon_: http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/lostfound.html -- Here's what that directory is used for.
[19:49] <harleypig> Where can I find a list of the base packages for karmic?
[19:49] <geoffmcc> JuJuBee that guide i used to make virtual hosts
[19:49] <piksi> is there a specific reason for 10.04 with finnish language packs installed to not show keyboard indicator applet anywhere? it's literally nowhere to be found
[19:49] <Brandon_> yeah when recovering files from improper shutdowns
[19:49] <glebihan> berkgocay: try rebooting, if you get stuck again, try in recovery mode
[19:50] <faustisch> piksi: right click on the panel -> add applet, keyboard indicator
[19:50] <faustisch> piksi, then right-click on the keyboard indicator -> preferences & then add your desired language
[19:51] <faustisch> piksi: s/language/layout/
[19:51] <piksi> faustisch: that's what i meant. it's not there. i've added the two typing systems i'm about to use but there isn't a keyboard indicator in the add applet list
[19:51] <gdb> Brandon_: I'd not have deleted it, but I don't believe you'll run into any issues from having done so.
[19:51] <faustisch> piksi: don't know then!
[19:52] <gdb> Brandon_: I believe fsck will recreate it if it's necessary.
[19:52] <Brandon_> gdb, I can always reformat it again? there's nothing on it anyway
[19:52] <aeon-ltd> purplefool: http://archlinux-i586.org/ or http://crux.nu/Main/Download the i586 version, they require some work but its worth it to save a machine ffrom the landfill :)
[19:52] <muctadir> i am having problem copying files from my hd to usb
[19:52] <Wernis> is there a way to make a file on my desktop, so that when i run it it sets my sreen res to 1920 * 1080 ?
[19:52] <mib_ubu2> hello, i have installed amarok and accidentally removed it from the panel - if i now start amarok i dont see it anymore, can someone help me?
[19:52] <geoffmcc> Brandon_: if you are just using drive for storage it will be recreated on own if needed
[19:52] <mib_ubu2> if i click Ã"add to panel" i cant choose any amarok stuff
[19:53] <Brandon_> ok geoffmcc
[19:53] <faustisch> Wernis, you'll want to add it to your /etc/init.d/ hierarchy
[19:53] <Brandon_> gdb, speaking of formatting, when I formatted my flash drive at the highest lvl possible, I chose GUID, is that the best?
[19:54] <faustisch> Wernis, most probably you'll need to configure xorg.conf manually
[19:54] <gdb> Brandon_: You can just create the directory again by hand and set its permissions to root.root, mode 700.  I don't know what you mean by "formatted at the highest level possible".
[19:54] <muctadir>  i am having problem copying files from my hd to usb. it is too much slow. can any one please tell me what can i do
[19:54] <Wernis> faustisch so i cannot have a "Shortcut" to this for me ?
[19:54] <djrazr> Nice Support chat .. -_- Good Red stripes all over the window ... but only in ubuntu ... WHY?
[19:55] <{g}> muctadir: cp /your/files/* /your/usb/
[19:55] <faustisch> Wernis, shortcuts in linux are called symbolic/hard links
[19:55] <Katsumi32> djrazr, what graphic card do you have?
[19:55] <djrazr> its an notebook
[19:55] <muctadir> {g}: same result
[19:55] <faustisch> Wernis, I don't think you can accomplish that easily,
[19:55] <kikela> hi, how to configure the first button of the wacom pen to a double click ? (Lucid)
[19:55] <faustisch> Wernis, I donn
[19:55] <djrazr> how to find out xD
[19:56] <djrazr> its xp ready...
[19:56] <ems> Anything that is "for linux" - will work in ubuntu, correct?
[19:56] <{g}> muctadir: how much data is it?
[19:56] <Wernis> faustisch, thanks for the advice :)
[19:56] <djrazr> so ... o think nit toooo bad
[19:56] <Brandon_> gdb, k. Well under Disk Utility you can reformat the volume(s) or the whole Drive, I took the drive option
[19:56] <Katsumi32> yes ems
[19:56] <faustisch> Wernis, any time :)
[19:56] <gdb> djrazr: Keep in mind that "support chat" here means something different than it does for, say, Dell.  With Dell, there are customer service people sitting in cubicles paid to answer your call and read a script of support steps.  Here it's just a bunch of people who use Linux and hang out, there is no paid for support here so if your question isn't answered, you'll need to ask periodically until someone can help you.
[19:56] <muctadir> {g}:700 MB
[19:56] <mib_ubu2> i guess this has something to do with the audio tray icon, because it vanished too and i cant add it in the "add to panel" dialog :?
[19:56] <ems> Katsumi32, that is great thanks
[19:56] <Wernis> faustisch i just wanted to be a bit lazy :P
[19:56] <{g}> muctadir: and how long does it take?
[19:56] <Brandon_> gdb, I then was prompted with a dropdown menu, I was able to choose between MBR, GUID, Nothing, or Apple
[19:56] <gdb> Brandon_: I'd not have done that, but I don't think you'll run into any issues from having done so.
[19:56] <djrazr> gdb .. but an answer from ubuntu user to ubuntu suer would be nice xD
[19:56] <faustisch> Wernis, try "man X"
[19:57] <geoffmcc> gdb: just a flash drive that he formatted -- no issues could come of it
[19:57] <Katsumi32> djrazr, so what is you graphic card ? do you know at all?
[19:57] <DexterF> hi
[19:57] <faustisch> Wernis, or maybe "info X"
[19:57] <muctadir> {g}; like 10 Mins. starts at 15 MBps goes down to 1.2MBps
[19:57] <djrazr> ill google my moddel..
[19:57] <DexterF> in the network manager I accidentally deleted auto eth0 - how do I get it back?
[19:57] <geoffmcc> muctadir: that not bad
[19:57] <Brandon_> gdb, I first reformatted the Drive into GUID, then created an ext4 partition, and then removed the lost+found directory, my bad for explaining improperly
[19:57] <muctadir> {g}: even less
[19:57] <gdb> djrazr: Then you may need to provide some more details.  I tend to consider questions like "my screen has red stripes on it!  why?" to be sort of like tar babies.  Who knows why?  Maybe you have a candycane for wallpaper.  You've not provided enough information for someone to get an idea of what the issue may be.
[19:57] <ems> another question, when a new ubuntu version comes out, is it easy to upgrade?
[19:58] <gdb> ems: Yes
[19:58] <Wernis> faustisch "man X" ? where do i "try" this ? terminal or the symbolic/hard link ?
[19:58] <berkgocay> glebihan: now i tried to boot recovery mode but its stuck at some place too
[19:58] <Katsumi32> djrazr,  type lspci in terminal thats all
[19:58] <berkgocay> its really weird
[19:58] <rapage> hey guys, I loaded UBUNTU 10,04 on my desktop but the image is not showing appetrently is trying to do a lot of resolution can someone tell me what to input so the res stays @ 1024 as a maximun
[19:58] <{g}> muctadir: 10mins ... where is the problem?
[19:58] <ems> gdb: It sounds like I will like ubuntu more then debian. hehe
[19:58] <muctadir> geoffmcc: comparing with windows it is i think slow
[19:58] <berkgocay> glebihan: Setting up console font and keymap...               _     <<<
[19:58] <geoffmcc> ems: sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:58] <muctadir> {g}: 10 min a long time dont u think
[19:58] <djrazr> ahh
[19:59] <djrazr> got it.
[19:59] <berkgocay> glebihan: should i wait more ?
[19:59] <pacifico> file after deleting the space of 15GB is still used as, someone knows what can be?
[19:59] <djrazr> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[19:59] <glebihan> berkgocay: well yes wait a little to see if something happens
[19:59] <{g}> muctadir: sounds ok to me.
[19:59] <Katsumi32> djrazr, did you activate any drivers in hardware drivers ?
[19:59] <berkgocay> glebihan: its been 10 mins
[19:59] <rapage> hey guys, I loaded UBUNTU 10,04 on my desktop but the image is not showing appetrently is trying to do a lot of resolution can someone tell me what to input so the res stays @ 1024 as a maximun
[19:59] <djrazr> done nothing yet..
[19:59] <djrazr> fresh installation
[20:00] <{g}> muctadir: i could copy that 700mb about 144 times aday then :)
[20:00] <Katsumi32> rapage try to change res in system preference monitor
[20:00] <{g}> times a day
[20:00] <muctadir> {g}; How much does it takes on urs
[20:00] <rapage> no
[20:00] <Katsumi32> djrazr, so do it
[20:00] <ems> be right back all
[20:00] <rapage> Katsumi32, listen is not possible I can't see anything when it loads ubuntu I can only see until the ubuntu log dissapears
[20:00] <djrazr> there are no drivers listed
[20:01] <JuJuBee> geoffmcc: I also have an ssl file in sites available.  It starts with NameVirtualHost *:443  should I remove that also?
[20:01] <rapage> ther'es some input txt I have to do
[20:01] <Katsumi32> rapage, is it fresh installation ? is it installed or you run it from the live cd?
[20:01] <glebihan> berkgocay: if there's no change, you'll need to boot on the live cd in order to remove the line from /etc/modules
[20:01] <Katsumi32> djrazr, wait a sec
[20:01] <rapage> Katsumi32, it's live
[20:01] <rapage> I'm trying to install it
[20:01] <{g}> muctadir: no idea. have to go now. bye.
[20:01] <geoffmcc>  muctadir: what the filesystem
[20:02] <muctadir> on HD ntfs usb is FAT
[20:02] <geoffmcc> JuJuBee: that is file to enable ssl
[20:02] <berkgocay> glebihan: so what do you think is the problem ?
[20:02] <JuJuBee> yes ssl version of my domain.
[20:02] <geoffmcc> JuJuBee: if you enable it i believe it enables ssl on all sites vhosts and default
[20:02] <JuJuBee> ok
[20:03] <rapage> Katsumi32, listen is not possible I can't see anything when it loads ubuntu I can only see until the ubuntu log dissapears
[20:03] <rapage> hey guys, I loaded UBUNTU 10,04 on my desktop but the image is not showing appetrently is trying to do a lot of resolution can someone tell me what to input so the res stays @ 1024 as a maximun
[20:03] <glebihan> berkgocay: well I don't know, except that ndiswrapper is apparently preventing your computer from booting
[20:04] <Katsumi32> djrazr,  check up this its about your graphic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1526038  and ubuntu 10.04 you can also type dmesg in terminal and see if there are any error
[20:04] <berkgocay> glebihan: should i download ubuntu 10 and install & try then ?
[20:04] <Duckman> well.. im online i guess
[20:04] <flobee__> CPU temperature panel monitor says: "NO Thermal Monitor Support"  ideas on how to fix?
[20:04] <berkgocay> glebihan: cuz i have intrepid
[20:04] <Katsumi32> rapage, slowdown :) easy
[20:04] <glebihan> berkgocay: may be worth trying yes
[20:04] <Manny> Does anyone know how to install xmbc skins?
[20:04] <geoffmcc> muctadir: that why, fromw hat i read ntfs would be faster
[20:05] <Katsumi32> rapage, is your ubuntu just installed ? what ver did you install ?
[20:05] <muctadir> geoffmcc: tried that too
[20:05] <rapage> it's live cd
[20:05] <djrazr> no error ... i willl look that page..
[20:05] <lukasd> Dobry vecer vsem.
[20:05] <aeon-ltd> Guest83699: ask in #xbmc
[20:05] <Katsumi32> ok rapage what laptop or pc do you have graphic and the cpu
[20:06] <geoffmcc> muctadir: does speed drop after bit or stay steady
[20:06] <rapage> it's a ati radion 9800
[20:06] <Guest83699> thanks
[20:06] <lukasd> Uz tri hodiny se patlam s propojenim Evolution se Zimbrou, zasekl jsem se na prikazu make: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Nevim, jak ho spravne pouzit. Hepl mi taky moc nepomohl.
[20:06] <rapage> what's wrong
[20:07] <ubuntu> file after deleting the space of 15GB is still used as, someone knows what can be?
[20:07] <Ichat> lukasd:  - please try in english
[20:07] <Katsumi32> rapage,  boot it again in low resolution mode there is an option in grub when u start to boot ubuntu
[20:07] <muctadir> geoffmcc: first 100 or 150 goes fast, falls to 1mbps even less. if there is several files the scenario is worse
[20:07] <rapage> why can' I see anything?
[20:07] <JuJuBee> geoffmcc: I am getting errors when I reload apache http://pastebin.com/8D4JPYNf
[20:07] <flobee__> i accidentally deleted the top menu panel
[20:07] <djrazr> lol ... my the download in ff is invisible in the downloadmanager..
[20:07] <geoffmcc> JuJuBee: one sec
[20:08] <lukasd> Ou sorry i am sorry, i think that is Czech Ubuntu channel :)
[20:08] <Katsumi32> rapage, maybe it has soemthing to do with your graphic and the driver dont know try to bot in low resolution and see if you can than go to hardware drivers and activate drivers there
[20:08] <geoffmcc> muctadir: give these a read // http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=798981 & http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/15648/
[20:08] <muctadir> geoffmcc: going for that
[20:09] <geoffmcc> JuJubee: did u follow that guide
[20:09] <rapage> Katsumi32, that's what I want but dont know how
[20:09] <djrazr> okay my driver is sis_drv.so .. how to open?
[20:09] <JuJuBee> Im pretty sure I did.
[20:10] <geoffmcc> JuJuBee: can i msg u
[20:10] <Katsumi32> djrazr, did you download it from the internet?
[20:10] <JuJuBee> geoffmcc: sure
[20:10] <djrazr> yeah
[20:10] <Katsumi32> it says tar djrazr ?
[20:10] <djrazr> yea...
[20:10] <djrazr> and in that zipped file is a .so
[20:11] <berkgocay> glebihan: i removed the damned adapter and it boots
[20:11] <Katsumi32> djrazr, right click on it scroll to extract when its extracted you will se new folder open it and there should be txt installation file read it
[20:11] <djrazr> nope..
[20:11] <djrazr> only an .so again
[20:12] <sesso> helloooooooooooooooooo
[20:12] <glebihan> berkgocay: good I didn't completely mess up your computer :)
[20:12] <sesso> is this the same as the ubuntu forums?
[20:12] <Katsumi32> sesso, sort of
[20:12] <flobee__> can't get my temperature indicator to work
[20:12] <Katsumi32> djrazr, show me the link you got your driver from pls
[20:12] <flobee__> cpu temperature ... says " No Thermal Monitor Support!"
[20:12] <djrazr> http://www.winischhofer.net/cgi-bin/downloadpage.cgi?dllink=http://www.winischhofer.net/sis/sis_drv.o_xorg_7.1.0_gcc4_290906-1.tar.gz
[20:13] <Ichat> djrazr:  -  whats it supposed to be for (.so ) usually in  Nix system is a 'binary' module,   as a apache for instance uses  .so   as plugins  to extend it.
[20:13] <Katsumi32> flobee__, temp of what the cpu ? install lmsensors
[20:13] <ubuntu> file after deleting the space of 15GB is still used as, someone knows what can be?
[20:13] <Samplezt> i got a question.. why, when i use transmission, the web browser doesnt work?..
[20:13] <djrazr> lol ... xD an display driver
[20:13] <Ichat> djrazr:  in general   google    filename.so  +  howto install  -  could help you find the solution to your problem\
[20:14] <brummbaer> samplezt: it shouldn't interfere with your browser, but you might want to set max dl/upload speeds in transmission to make sure it's not taking all your bandwidth
[20:14] <trism> Samplezt: you may need to limit your upload
[20:14] <brontoeee> how would i speed -up libmlt/melt on lucid lynx?
[20:14] <flobee__> Katsumi32, temp of dual core cpus;  lm-sensors is already instaled
[20:14] <Samplezt> limit he uplod or the download? or both?
[20:14] <djrazr> tried it Ichat ?
[20:15] <trism> Samplezt: would start with upload, and if that doesn't help, download as well
[20:15] <rsr> hello all
[20:15] <Samplezt> lets try
[20:15] <djrazr> ahh gcc
[20:15] <Ichat> djrazr:  -  what driver do you look to install  at this time?
[20:15] <Katsumi32> djrazr, im not sure if you got the right driver but for sure its tar.bz so to unzip it just right click on it scroll to extract and it will be extracted
[20:15] <djrazr> driver..
[20:16] <berkgocay> glebihan: thanks, its buggy but its working now
[20:16] <rsr> how do I open .MXF files in Ubuntu? I can´t seem to find any software package able to play back this video.Has anyone worked with video editing and knows how I can play back this file?
[20:16] <djrazr> for display... got red stripes
[20:16] <Katsumi32> flobee__, type in terminal sensors do you see any output?
[20:16] <glebihan> berkgocay: really ?
[20:16] <Ichat> djrazr:  -  what driver - (for witch card  etc)  be specific if you will
[20:16] <berkgocay> glebihan: yes, i removed the adapter when booting and plugged in when it starts
[20:16] <berkgocay> glebihan: working
[20:16] <Samplezt> thnks, it works wirh the upload =)
[20:17] <glebihan> berkgocay: nice :)
[20:20] <NaFiann> Hi, is there any way to run a windowed application while not showing the rest of the desktop? I want to allow a group of people to use an app on my laptop, but don't want them to be able to change anything outside it..
[20:23] <abhijit> NaFiann, i dunno exactly but see if teamviewer does the thing you want
[20:23] <Duckman> \quit
[20:24] <NaFiann> abhijit: thanks, but they'll be accessing my laptop physically :)
[20:24] <abhijit> NaFiann, ok
[20:24] <mpgutta> hi, when i tried to login to mysql i am getting error "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"
[20:24] <NaFiann> basically, I want only the wallpaper and application to be accessible
[20:24] <brummbaer> nafiann: kiosk mode
[20:24] <brummbaer> ?
[20:24] <brummbaer> or kill your panels
[20:24] <NaFiann> brummbaer: yes
[20:24] <djrazr> srry
[20:24] <NaFiann> how do I do that?
[20:25] <djrazr> dissconnected
[20:25] <mpgutta> hi, when i tried to login to mysql i am getting error "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)", when do i get this error
[20:25] <erUSUL> NaFiann: make a special user whose session is only that app in full screen no window manager no nothing ( or maybe a window manager and that app )
[20:25] <djrazr> still there?
[20:25] <abhijit> !who | djrazr
[20:25] <NaFiann> thanks, I'll look into it
[20:26] <mpgutta> ubottu: when i tried to login to mysql i am getting error "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)", when do i get this error
[20:27] <abhijit> mpgutta, try asking in #mysql
[20:27] <mpgutta> brummbaer: when i tried to login to mysql i am getting error "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)", when do i get this error
[20:28] <tehowe> NaFiann: http://brainextender.blogspot.com/2009/01/look-down-ubuntus-gnome-desktop.html
[20:28] <wx9j> lost my boot loader on a dual boot system, have it now booted to a Ubuntu disc, how do I reconfigure the loader ?
[20:28] <abhijit> !fixgrub | wx9j
[20:28] <brummbaer> mpgutta, why are you asking me?
[20:29] <mpgutta> brummbaer: i need help from someone.
[20:29] <brummbaer> don't ask me. if i knew i would've answered
[20:29] <abhijit> mpgutta, is no one is answering here then you should try in channel #mysql
[20:29] <mpgutta> abhijit: thanks.
[20:30] <luigi_> !list
[20:30] <luigi_> !bot
[20:31] <DrDark> anyone able to answer me a noob question?
[20:31] <erUSUL> !ask | DrDark
[20:31] <Katsumi32> DrDark, ask
[20:32] <goliat> hello?
[20:32] <aeon-ltd> goliat: hi
[20:32] <Katsumi32> DrDark, where is the noob question ? 1403 people are waiting
[20:33] <Katsumi32> goliat, hi
[20:33] <goliat> hi Aeon, Katsumi
[20:33] <Katsumi32> nice to meet you goliat
[20:33] <aeon-ltd> !welcome | goliat
[20:33] <DrDark> well im about to move from windows to linux
[20:34] <DrDark> for the 1st time
[20:34] <aeon-ltd> !enter | DrDark
[20:34] <R_I_P> hi
[20:34] <DrDark> never had  the guts to do the move
[20:34] <abhijit> !manual | DrDark
[20:34] <edbian> DrDark, Hello!
[20:34] <DrDark> but i have a big issue
[20:34] <DrDark> i use iphone
[20:34] <aeon-ltd> !enter | DrDark
[20:34] <aeon-ltd> !enter | DrDark
[20:34] <abhijit> ubottu is sleeping
[20:34] <DrDark> !enter
[20:34] <abhijit> ahh
[20:34] <edbian> DrDark, We're here to help but you have to polite on IRC.  :)
[20:35] <DrDark> ok then im sorry...
[20:35] <Katsumi32> DrDark, do you have any questions?
[20:35] <abhijit> !guidelines > DrDark
[20:35] <edbian> DrDark, No worries.
[20:35] <skrite> DrDark, i use an iphone with ubuntu
[20:35] <Saguaro> haha wow there is something very wrong with my Deluge
[20:35] <Saguaro> using up 2.9gb of RAM is not good
[20:36] <edbian> Katsumi32, He wants to use an iphone with Ubuntu
[20:36] <abhijit> !iphone | DrDark
[20:36] <edbian> DrDark, I don't have an iphone but I would bet that you can get the iphone to work on Ubuntu but you're not going to get the seamless integration that you'd get from iTunes + iPhone
[20:36] <Saguaro> iTunes doesn't work in Wine?
[20:36] <DrDark> well , im moving to ubuntu but i have a problem i need to use itunes to sync my iphone with songs games and apps what should i do i check if it compitable with wine but it isn't...
[20:37] <abhijit> DrDark, see the links given by ubottu
[20:37] <edbian> Saguaro, It does but you have to somehow forward the usb ports to wine.  It was tricky, I never figured it out.
[20:37] <edbian> then I installed rockbox and never looked back
[20:37] <abhijit> i installed playonlinux. now i cant open 'Browse C: drive' of wine. any help?
[20:37] <abhijit> but playonlinux gui is running
[20:37] <ali> hey everyone
[20:38] <skrite> DrDark, i use an iphone to sync music and photos, but that is all, not apps. it is pretty easy in the newest ubuntu
[20:38] <Katsumi32> hi ali
[20:38] <ali> is there anyone there who can help me about asus express gate?
[20:38] <caldazar> can somebody help me with compiling ext2fuse?
[20:38] <abhijit> !compile > caldazar
[20:38] <goliat> Is there an easy way to get rights to folders controlled by user root?
[20:39] <bodwick> is there a plugin for gstreamer to play flac?
[20:39] <ali> goliat: console is your friend, use it
[20:39] <dunas> Double-clicking on items listed as "Allow Executing File As Program" in Nautilus is not running them, help? Latest updates, 10.04
[20:39] <goliat> console = terminal : im very new to ubuntu
[20:40] <ubuntu> file after deleting the space of 15GB is still used as, someone knows what can be?
[20:40] <dyne> Hey guys, sorry if I'm insisting too much I was wondering if anyone could help me out with my sound..
[20:40] <abhijit> goliat, what do you actualy want to do/
[20:40] <abhijit> !sound > dyne
[20:40] <ali> yes, search google, you will find how to get root rights and search dirs. etc.
[20:40] <dajhorn> dunas: Enable the "Run In Terminal" checkbox and check whether you're getting error output.
[20:40] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> ubuntu: perhaps the file is linked elsewhere?
[20:40] <goliat> i would like to be able to create folders
[20:40] <edbian> dunas, If they're cli based apps you won't see anything.  Try running them from the terminal
[20:40] <guntbert> !google | ali
[20:40] <abhijit> goliat, mkdir or sudo mkdir
[20:41] <goliat> ok, ill try that out. Thank you
[20:42] <abhijit> good night all! bye :)
[20:43] <Humle> hi
[20:43] <Humle> How r u?
[20:43] <wickedSA> !hi | Humle
[20:44] <Humle> | hi wickedSA!
[20:44] <Humle> just kidding
[20:45] <Saguaro> hey guys where is transmission kept? is it in /usr/bin?
[20:45] <Exxon> hi
[20:45] <Katsumi32> Exxon, hi
[20:45] <DrDark> !rockbox
[20:45] <guntbert> !ot | Humle
[20:45] <gatis_> exit
[20:46] <guntbert> Katsumi32: please don't greet *every* new visitor :-)
[20:46] <dajhorn> Saguaro: If it is installed, then click Applications -> Internet -> Transmission
[20:46] <Katsumi32> guntbert, hehehe ok
[20:47] <aeon-ltd> yeah, factoids are quite space consuming
[20:47] <Saguaro> dajhorn, I'm trying to get Firefox to use Transmission to open torrent files by default, but it's asking for the location of Transmission
[20:47] <Exxon> Katsumi32, keep up the good work :)
[20:47] <goliat> How can i go to a folder outside of the user folder in terminal?
[20:47] <aeon-ltd> goliat: cd into it
[20:47] <aeon-ltd> Saguaro: /usr/bin
[20:47] <dajhorn> Saguaro: /usr/bin/transmission
[20:47] <Saguaro> thanks
[20:48] <guntbert> goliat: please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:48] <mpgutta> mysql service is getting hanged. how to fix it?
[20:48] <Katsumi32> guntbert, hehehe ok
[20:48] <Katsumi32> Exxon i dont really like you cos of what your company did !!!
[20:49] <Katsumi32> sorry
[20:49] <Exxon> Katsumi32, neither do i :)
[20:50] <guntbert> Katsumi32: and please keep your comments to the topic of this channel: ubuntu support
[20:50] <Humle> How do I switch the network speed (between 10 MBps and 100 MBps) on my network card using Ubuntu?
[20:51] <erUSUL> Humle: use ethtool; but you shouldn't need to. sopeed is negotiated...
[20:51] <guntbert> Humle: why do you want to do that?
[20:52] <Katsumi32> guntbert, its joke so dont be so serious and no one is asking anything at the moment and when i say hi to someone it look nice doesnt it ? better to say hi than dont say anything when someone new say hello everyone. i wasnt born to be rude
[20:52] <wickedSA> oh god.
[20:53] <Humle> guntbert, i need to check a website with a slower connection
[20:53] <Sonderblade> what is the best way to write custom init scripts on ubuntu? using upstart? if so is there a tutorial
[20:53] <edbian> wickedSA, ha ha ha
[20:53] <guntbert> Katsumi32: that has nothing to to with being rude - imagine 1390 people greeting everyone and typing "witty" sentences - *this* channel is strictly for support
[20:54] <erUSUL> !info trickle | Humle
[20:54] <Humle> thanks, erUSUL!
[20:54] <edbian> Sonderblade, You just "sudo update-rc.d /path/to/script"
[20:54] <edbian> Sonderblade, For more info read the update-rc.d man page.
[20:55] <sf79w0`> !ops NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! sf79w0` boris_ t0rc Ubunturific renato aabt KennethP bilalakhtar yeti_ MagicJ pedro__ Sergeant_Pony biesi balleyne AudunWangen oblu PreZ claw T3CHKOMMIE lanoxx bgdn86 serapophis zeddii_ krachny zilla Exxon CyberGabber githogori solid_liq m4dv0y aeon-ltd klandwehr Bucky songer MrUnagi NewWorld msanchez Komac Humle M1DLGpc Doyle cdpuk ali caldazar cdubya Aferlak12 DavidLevin 
[20:55] <guntbert> Humle: switching to 10MBps won't accomplish what you want, its still a lot faster that your internet connection
[20:55] <Sonderblade> edbian: that is not upstart
[20:55] <Humle> guntbert, how do you know?
[20:56] <edbian> Sonderblade, They work on the same system.  I'm not sure if there is some new way to do it in using upstart.
[20:56] <t0rc> Lol people really hate freenode eh
[20:56] <guntbert> Humle: guesswork - but we're getting off topic here
[20:57] <dakota_> hello, I am having GPG errors while updating, and also so package installation problems anyone care to help?
[20:57] <d-eee> in karmic koala why does adobe flsh keep crashing?
[20:57] <dakota_> nAint karmic kinda old?
[20:58] <erUSUL> !gpgerr | dakota_
[20:58] <Humle> !nonfree | d-eee
[20:58] <aeon-ltd> d-eee: please update before asking
[20:58] <dakota_> what key do I add?
[20:58] <serapophis> Sonderblade: yep there is http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[20:58] <wx9j> my dual boot sys would not boot to Linux, I fixed it according to the web page about it but now windows wont start
[20:59] <erUSUL> dakota_: the error messages tell you what keys are missing
[20:59] <guntbert> aeon-ltd: but karmic is still supported...
[20:59] <goliat> Thanks for the help guys! Good Night! ^
[20:59] <dakota_> I did those commands with the missing keys and it told me they were not keys and ignored them.
[20:59] <rcmaehl-linux> is this normal or should i be concerned: http://www.fcofix.org/10000mbs.png
[21:00] <mpgutta> hi all, any one plz tell me how to remove mysql completely(even mysql start, stop services as well)
[21:00] <Humle> rcmaehl-linux, are u on fiber?
[21:00] <ciupicri> are there any ubuntu 9.04 packages with VirtualBox guest additions?
[21:00] <rcmaehl-linux> Humle: that's for a device on my PC
[21:00] <Humle> oh, it's diskwrites
[21:00] <Humle> rcmaehl-linux, got it
[21:00] <rcmaehl-linux> should I be concered?
[21:01] <ciupicri> mpgutta, try dpkg autoremove mysql
[21:01] <rcmaehl-linux> concerned*
[21:01] <erkan^> I have installed openclipart, but where can I open?
[21:02] <aeon-ltd> guntbert: i meant flash, not distros
[21:02] <mpgutta> ciupicri: ok.
[21:02] <erkan^> !openclipart
[21:02] <Exxon> erkan^, openclipart are in what format ?
[21:03] <brummbaer> exxon, svg and png
[21:03] <guntbert> aeon-ltd: ah - how do you know he didn't?
[21:03] <brummbaer> openclipart.org
[21:03] <erkan^> openclipart is a software. I have installed this programma for Software Centre. I can not found this software for Ubuntu, Exxon
[21:03] <LjL> erkan^: open? it's a clipart collection, what does it mean to open it?
[21:03] <erkan^> yes i mean
[21:03] <erkan^> LjL,
[21:04] <erUSUL> erkan^: it is probably now aviable from openoffice and other programs ?
[21:04] <erkan^> I have installed openoffice
[21:04] <aeon-ltd> guntbert: i assumed, based on that he hadn't changed to lucid.
[21:05] <guntbert> aeon-ltd: :)
[21:06] <Exxon> erkan^, use gimp
[21:07] <erkan^> I am sorry , i have found now. OpenOffice Writer, than Extra (tabblad) ,than Galerj, Exxon and LjL
[21:07] <erkan^> it is ok now
[21:07] <dakota_> ok still having GPG errors.....
[21:09] <guntbert> dakota_: !pastebin them
[21:10] <undecim> Question about mountpoints: If I set a directory to mode 000, will it change when I use that as a mountpoint for a filesystem that supports UNIX file permissions?
[21:10] <ali>  is there anyone there who can help me about asus express gate?
[21:10] <jrib> undecim: yes
[21:10] <undecim> Basically, I want the directory to inaccessible unless it is a mountpoint
[21:10] <edbian> undecim, Yeah.
[21:10] <dakota_> Can you elaborate on that?
[21:10] <edbian> undecim, If that FS doesn't have permissions though then every file will be whatever you set as the mountpoint
[21:10] <undecim> jrib, edbian: k. tyr
[21:10] <undecim> ty*
[21:12] <mpgutta> ciupicri: when i try "dpkg autoremove mysql" it says it requires action
[21:13] <Exxon> ali, what up with asus express gate ? specify :)
[21:13] <bsod1> do you know how to use konversation with proxy? I can use xchat with proxy but I can't find proxy settings in konversation
[21:14] <undecim> !anyone | ali
[21:14] <wqew_> hi all
[21:14] <wqew_> help needed
[21:14] <ali> Exxon: I have no Idea about how to start it
[21:14] <aeon-ltd> !ask | wqew_
[21:15] <undecim> ali: If it's installed, then you should be able to press the express gate button when your computer is off
[21:15] <dakota_> is anyone here every going to respond!? Or an I just wasting my time......
[21:15] <wqew_> i cannot access internet on my ubuntu 10
[21:15] <aeon-ltd> !details | wqew_
[21:15] <undecim> ali, On mine, it looks like a power button with a lightning bolt instead of the straight line
[21:15] <wqew_> its ubuntu 10 desktop
[21:16] <ali> On my computer, there is only one start button, and I set bios settings for it. But express gate gives me an error what says it is not totally installed
[21:17] <undecim> ali: What error is that?
[21:17] <ali> I can't take the number screen passes too fast, but it writes that asus express gate isn't totally installed
[21:17] <guntbert> !who | dakota_ ( I answered)
[21:18] <sisif> Hello guys. Can somebody please explay what Xorg error "(EE) [drm] No DRICreatePCIBusID symbol" is related to / and how cand I fix it. Aparently google does not find anything relevant on this one ..
[21:18] <Wernis> Is the latest verison of Ubuntu 10.04 ? or is it 10.10 ?or is 10.10 the BEAT ?
[21:18] <ciupicri> mpgutta, what kind of action?
[21:18] <sisif> Wernis: 10.10 is beta
[21:18] <wqew_> well now i hv joined theits 10.04
[21:18] <ciupicri> mpgutta, have you added sudo ?
[21:19] <mpgutta> ciupicri: yes. i am doing as root user only
[21:19] <dakota_> guntbert I know this seems kinda choppy.
[21:19] <Wernis> sisif : thanks
[21:19] <dakota_> ubottu as well
[21:19] <guntbert> dakota_: ubottu is a bot :-)
[21:20] <guntbert> dakota_: do you know about pastebin?
[21:20] <dakota_> ubottu there is a number after the GPG error , is this the number I enter into the commands preveously started?
[21:20] <m15k> hi, is it possible to install http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/159760 to 10.04?
[21:20] <ciupicri> mpgutta, what was the error message?
[21:20] <dakota_> guntbert no I dont...
[21:20] <geoffmcc> dakota_ ubotu is not a person, its a bot
[21:20] <Exxon> dakota_, repeat the question, gone high up in clouds.
[21:20] <mpgutta> ciupicri: here is the error http://paste.scsys.co.uk/50765
[21:20] <guntbert> !pastebin | dakota_
[21:20] <b0ot> how do i remove the sudo password?
[21:21] <guntbert> b0ot: don't
[21:21] <b0ot> guntbert, unless you know a way to have bash input the sudo password, i have to
[21:21] <ciupicri> mpgutta, my bad; try this: apt-get autoremove mysql
[21:21] <wqew_> i can anybody tell me personally .,, its flooded here
[21:21] <guntbert> b0ot: why?
[21:21] <dakota_> Exxon I am getting a GPG error when trying to update, and also when I install packages when they finish installing the system says "They are broke" and wont use them.
[21:22] <h00k> Quitting gparted when it's doing a resizing read-only test, safe? yes/no?
[21:22] <b0ot> guntbert, my script does things that requires the sudo password... and if I want it to work it either needs to input the password or have no password
[21:22] <mpgutta> ciupicri: it says "E: Couldn't find package mysql"
[21:22] <mpgutta> ciupicri: should i give mysql*
[21:22] <geoffmcc> or run as root
[21:22] <ciupicri> mpgutta, dpkg --get-selections | grep mysql
[21:23]  * ph0n7r1c hi guys i just got a new laptop and i installed everything but the network card to work 
[21:23]  * ph0n7r1c the network card is Atheros AR8152 
[21:23] <ph0n7r1c> any help please
[21:23] <Exxon> dakota_, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/05/apt-get-update-how-to-solve-no-public-key-available/
[21:23] <guntbert> b0ot: then change your script - doing admin work from a script in a user directory *might* be dangerous --- but you *can* get a root shell by typing sudo -i (only if you are convinced that you really must)
[21:23] <wqew_> is anybody there to personally assist me???
[21:24] <mpgutta> ciupicri: output is here http://paste.scsys.co.uk/50767
[21:24] <songer> hello, help
[21:24] <songer> error occurred while mounting 0
[21:24] <ciupicri> mpgutta, apt-get autoremove mysql-server
[21:24] <guntbert> wqew_: no, support should be kept in the channel
[21:24] <guntbert> wqew_: but you can tell your client to ignore the join/part messages
[21:25] <ciupicri> mpgutta, or dpkg --remove  [all the mysql server packages]
[21:25] <mpgutta> ciupicri: actually i tried that before, its hanging without completion..
[21:25] <dakota_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/493827/ <------- Here's my error message!
[21:25] <mpgutta> ciupicri: so i thought there is some problem.
[21:25] <b0ot> guntbert, lol so you would never need to type in sudo if you simply did sudo -i
[21:25] <b0ot> ?
[21:25] <ciupicri> mpgutta, then I'm out of ideas, I'm a newbie too
[21:26] <mpgutta> ciupicri: here is the output of the command apt-get http://paste.scsys.co.uk/50768
[21:27] <guntbert> b0ot: I use sudo nearly every day, sudo -i about twice a year - its good habit to keep yourself reminded when you are working with root permissions
[21:27] <mpgutta> ciupicri: its just hanging after coming to that point.
[21:27] <ciupicri> mpgutta, seems to be working
[21:27] <mpgutta> ciupicri: does that command take longtime to complete?
[21:28] <ziofabri> hi all! can someone help on a (quite basic) localization problem?
[21:28] <ciupicri> mpgutta, I have no freakin' idea
[21:28] <Humle> why is firefox 3.6.8 consuming 1 GB of memory?
[21:28] <ciupicri> Humle, only 1 GB? :-)
[21:28] <ciupicri> Humle, how many tabs do you have? do you have flash and java?
[21:29] <ciupicri> Humle, and what is memory? resident, virtual?
[21:29] <Humle> ciupicri, about 50 plain html pages tabs with no images, no pdfs, no flash, no video
[21:29] <ziofabri> I just installed glade-gnome, and it shows in the system language (Italian); how do I change glade interface to English?
[21:29] <Humle> resident
[21:29] <Humle> try it
[21:29] <Humle> it is obscene
[21:30] <dakota_> Exxon I tried the commands but it still says that the key I enterd is not a key and it ignores it..
[21:30] <Dvyjones> I'm having trouble booting my Ubuntu Live CD, it works perfectly on another computer, but not on this one. I ran the diskcheck on this computer, and had no problems, but when trying to boot either the installer or the desktop, it hangs during the splash screen. Only REISUB works afaics.
[21:30] <ciupicri> Humle, yeah, it seems to be too much
[21:30] <guntbert> !enter | Humle
[21:30]  * Humle is switching to Chrome/Chromium
[21:30] <brummbaer> dvyjones, may be issues w/ KMS, i hear that's been causing lots of issues for older hardware
[21:31] <Dvyjones> brummbaer: KMS?
[21:31] <Dvyjones> brummbaer: And this is old hardware.
[21:31] <brummbaer> kernel mode something
[21:31] <Dvyjones> Kernel Mode Setting?
[21:32] <brummbaer> !kms
[21:32] <brummbaer> bah
[21:32] <geoffmcc> Humle: why, no storage
[21:32] <Dvyjones> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting ?
[21:32] <Loshki> firefox 3.6.9 seems awfully sluggish on my lucid machine. It's just me, right?
[21:32] <pradeep> how do i enable my usb on virtualbox sun
[21:32] <guntbert> pradeep: virtual box support in #vbox please
[21:33] <Exxon> dakota_, then let someone paste the source list 10.04 for you.
[21:35] <MagicJ> I run a bar and have a "public access computer'  does it make sense for me to run a virtual machine on that computer so that when users are done we just re-start the virtual machine and can do no damage - is there a better solution
[21:35] <Flomaster> when running  sudo apt-get update I get a duplicate sources error how can I go about eliminating the duplicate sources ------>>>>W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc-svn/ppa/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_team-xbmc-svn_ppa_ubuntu_dists_lucid_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[21:36] <rizzuh> Is there an equivalent to foobar2000 for Linux?
[21:36] <rizzuh> I mean something that feels like it, not just another media player.
[21:36] <ciupicri> rizzuh, audacious
[21:36] <caldazar> what does "fuse-ext2: Can't read an inode bitmap while reading inode bitmap" mean? I am trying to mount a drive with ext2fuse
[21:36] <ciupicri> rizzuh, it also has a plain gtk interface which is pretty similar to foobar2000
[21:36] <rizzuh> ciupicri, thanks
[21:37] <dajhorn> caldazar: Why are you using fuse?   ext2 is in the Ubuntu kernel.
[21:37] <caldazar> dajhorn, trying to get data out of a hd that was in a nas
[21:37] <chalcedony>  where does the kweather icon show up on your desktop in 10.04?
[21:38] <Flomaster> when running  sudo apt-get update I get a duplicate sources error how can I go about eliminating the duplicate sources ------>>>>W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc-svn/ppa/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_team-xbmc-svn_ppa_ubuntu_dists_lucid_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[21:38] <kai_> Hey there, I was wondering f I could use ubuntu live disk to install grub to a windows 7 only computer?
[21:40] <chalcedony> kai_, why not use the supergrub cd?
[21:40] <Jordan_U> kai_: You can, but why would you want to?
[21:41] <dajhorn> caldazar: That isn't a good reason to avoid the kernel filesystem.  You're probably having an offset problem.  Make a `dd` of the disk and go read the man page on loopback mounts.
[21:41] <kai_> Jordan_U, MBR on windows isn't working approperiately, figured this would be the easiest way.
[21:41] <kai_> chalcedony, out of cd/DVD's haha
[21:42] <serapophis> !search grub
[21:42] <chalcedony> kai_, grocery stores even have them.. walmart
[21:42] <kai_> not within walking distance from campus, and with two projects due, can't really afford the time.. Just helping out a friend of mine
[21:42] <Jordan_U> kai_: We should move this conversation to ##windows.
[21:42] <kai_> Jordan_U, thanks
[21:43] <Jordan_U> kai_: You're welcome.
[21:43] <Saguaro> is ubottu linked to the wiki?
[21:43] <b0ot> i can't get rid of the sudo password
[21:44] <Flomaster> when running  sudo apt-get update I get a duplicate sources error how can I go about eliminating the duplicate sources ------>>>>W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc-svn/ppa/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_team-xbmc-svn_ppa_ubuntu_dists_lucid_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[21:44] <guntbert> !repeat | Flomaster
[21:46] <b0ot>  In visudo I  added <user> All=NOPASSWD: ALL and i still have to insert my sudo password any ideas
[21:46] <dajhorn> Flomaster: Open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor, and each of the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, and delete the second instance of the xbmc line.
[21:46] <iowahc> hy there. some not ubuntu-related question, sorry. anyone know of intouch claros imap client?
[21:46] <Flomaster> dajhorn: thanks I'll try that, I was searching ubuntu forums for the answer as well
[21:46] <dajhorn> Flomaster: Alternatively,  try the ppa-purge helper program.  Use it to remove xbmc entirely, and then reinstall.
[21:48] <guntbert> dajhorn: ppa-purge helper? where do I find that?
[21:48] <guntbert> iowahc: not here please
[21:48] <seanp2k> yo, i just installed apache2 on 10.04 server and I can't load the default page, do I need to do something to apparmor ?
[21:48] <iowahc> guntbert: you know a appropriate channel?
[21:48] <seanp2k> it works locally via lynx but I can't get the page from the host computer that I'm on.  I'm running the ubuntu 10.04 server in a VM
[21:49] <seanp2k> I can SSH to it just fine so I know it's not a host<-> VM networking issue
[21:49] <matej> emm does anyone know if there are any script to make ubuntu display Reddit inbox updates in that notification area (top right corner) ?
[21:49] <Flomaster> dajhorn:  here is my  contents of sources.list.d xbmc@XBMCLive:~/.xbmc/addons/skin.night$ ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ kernel-ppa-pre-proposed-lucid.list  tvheadend.list.list       ubuntu.list.list.save                    xbmc.list.list       xbmc-svn.list.list.save team-xbmc-svn-ppa-lucid.list        tvheadend.list.list.save  ubuntu-x-swat-x-updates-lucid.list       xbmc.list.list.save team-xbmc-svn-ppa-lucid.list.save   ubuntu.lis
[21:49] <guntbert> iowahc: sorry, no
[21:49] <dajhorn> guntbert: The ppa-purge package in the universe section.
[21:49] <iowahc> guntbert: thanks anyway
[21:50] <dajhorn> !pastebin | Flomaster
[21:50] <geoffmcc> seanp2k: port 80 open in firewall?
[21:50] <guntbert> !info ppa-purge
[21:50] <guntbert> dajhorn: ^
[21:50] <dajhorn> guntbert:  https://launchpad.net/ppa-purge
[21:51] <seanp2k> geoffmcc: is there a firewall installed in server by default?
[21:51] <b0ot> How do I remove all passwords... including the one i have to enter when i sign on and the sudo password?
[21:51] <csmith1994> k guys I need some help, I need processing for my programming class. but whenever I run processing and try and run a simple process, it crashes my pc. what should I do
[21:51] <Kills> how do I make an usb flash that will boot from ubuntu
[21:51] <edbian> !iptables
[21:51] <guntbert> dajhorn: great , thx
[21:51] <geoffmcc> seanp2k: ufw is installed but not running, but iptables is
[21:51] <dajhorn> guntbert: Welcome.
[21:51] <seanp2k> iptables -L comes up blank
[21:51] <edbian> Kills, Use the disk creator in the system menu
[21:51] <Flomaster> dajhorn:  http://flomaster.pastebin.com/Ap2NkmFv
[21:52] <Kills> its called disk creator excatly?
[21:52] <seanp2k> geoffmcc: 'stop ufw' did it, thx
[21:52] <dajhorn> Flomaster: Either try ppa-purge, or open each one of those files and read them.
[21:52] <guntbert> b0ot: (advice not answer): don't drop the unix(linux security/safety measures
[21:52] <seanp2k> geoffmcc: is there something similar to 'chkconfig ufw off' to disable it from starting on boot?
[21:52] <geoffmcc> seanp2k: i would start ufw again and open port 80
[21:53] <Clappy> Whee.
[21:53] <Ilay> csmith1994, do you mean that your program crasges your linux kernel?
[21:53] <seanp2k> geoffmcc: it's just a local dev server on my laptop, I don't really want to run / manage a firewall on it
[21:53] <geoffmcc> seanp2k sudo ufw allow 80
[21:53] <dajhorn> Flomaster: You've got junk in your sources.list.d -- think about cleaning it out regardless of XBMC.
[21:53] <geoffmcc> seanp2k: oh ok
[21:53] <seanp2k> geoffmcc: but thanks for the info.  Do you know if that allows UDP / TCP when you just type "ufw allow 80" ?
[21:54] <b0ot> guntbert, I want to have a my computer to come up automatically run a script that starts a camera
[21:54] <Kills> edbian:  please provide more precise instructions Ima newbie on ubuntu
[21:54] <geoffmcc> seanp2k: think it def to tcp
[21:54] <csmith1994> Ilay, yes, when I run processing, and run a simple program that just changes the size of the window and a background color, it flashes off and back on instantly at the boot screen
[21:54] <caldazar> I have a question. if I have an empty disk on my netgear readynas unit, and I add one with data. does the nas sync files from the second? or does it sync the empty disc to the new?
[21:54] <Darthfett> new to Ubuntu here, anyone know why it asks for my password in order to connect to wifi, and is there any way around having to do this every boot?
[21:54] <guntbert> b0ot: the put that script (well tested) in /etc/rc.local
[21:54] <geoffmcc> seanp2k: not to keep pushing firewall but you could also enable it again and allow all traffic from your local network and block other
[21:54] <hihihi100> i need hel with sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-256.53.run, when executed it says I need to exit x before installing, how do I do that?
[21:55] <Flomaster> dajhorn: yeah I only need one source for xbmc, is it normal to have a source and a source.saved   in there?
[21:55] <csmith1994> Darthfett: Install a different network manager. I use tilp, and it works ok
[21:55] <dajhorn> Flomaster: Yes.
[21:55] <Darthfett> ah, okay.  Thanks. :)
[21:55] <seanp2k> geoffmcc: OK, thanks for your help.  UFW seems to be less of a PITA than the default RHEL firewall :)
[21:55] <Flomaster> dajhorn: can I just delete the duplicate instances of xbmc I don't need?
[21:56] <csmith1994> darthfett: I had the same issue. also, certain newer WEP types are incompatible with the default network manager, while tilp is
[21:56] <geoffmcc> seanp2k: real easy to use, i used it till i found apf
[21:56] <dajhorn> Flomaster: Yes.
[21:56] <Darthfett> ahh
[21:57] <dajhorn> Flomaster: Unless you've done something unusual,  the sources.list file is essential and everything in the sources.list.d/ is unimportant.
[21:57] <Ilay> csmith1994, can you check your /var/log/kern.log* files for information about what happened?
[21:57] <csmith1994> Darthfett: Also, in the future, when sending messages to one person in particular, use their nick, followed by a comma or semicolon to highlight the message on their chat screen, which makes it simpler for them and yourself to track your conversation
[21:58] <csmith1994> Ilay: will do
[21:58] <Ilay> csmith1994, as I understand you ran your selwriten program?
[21:59] <smokie> hey guys, anyone know how to stop firestarter from terminal?
[21:59] <Darthfett> csmith1994, ah, forgot about that trick. :P  can't find tilp via google or apt-cache search/synaptic though
[21:59] <csmith1994> Ilay: yes, the code was in the simplified java used by Processing, and said: size (640,480); background (255,0,0)
[21:59] <csmith1994> Darthfett: I'll run a search for you and message you a link
[21:59] <edbian> smokie, killall firestarter
[22:00] <Ilay> csmith1994, may be the problem is in video card driver...
[22:00] <BryanWB> ubuntu buddies,  how can i stop an upstart job from running?
[22:00] <Darthfett> csmith1994, k, thanks
[22:00] <BryanWB> i.e. what is the upstart equivalent of $ update-rc.d -f apache2 remove
[22:00] <Kills> how to make my laptop too boot from an usb???
[22:00] <seanp2k> geoffmcc: we use APF for production stuff :)
[22:00] <Ilay> BrendenB, ctrl+z for stop
[22:00] <reaper50435> can anyone help me, I have been trying to install this game on ubuntu 10.04 and I am not getting anyway. I have tried to install it with gmount-iso and wine and get a error, tried to install it with pol and the list of commands it gives me to enter do not work, so if anyone can help me i would be very greatful
[22:00] <geoffmcc> in reguards to highlighting text in chat - @username should be an option too i think, but thats just me
[22:00] <Ilay> BrendenB, fg for restore
[22:00] <csmith1994> Ilay: i ran a video card check last night  do you want me so send you the output of lspci | grep vga
[22:01] <ZekeS> reaper50435: ... which game?
[22:01] <geoffmcc> seanp2k: i love it- had no problems exept today i setup samba and cant for like of me access it on windows pc even though all ports open - soon as turn off able to access
[22:01] <reaper50435> ZekeS: starcraft 2
[22:01] <carop> hello. The computer I am working on is running ubuntu (not sure which version; how can I know?). It seems that the command "at" is broken: when I type "at 0123+4month" it sets up an event for January 14th, 2012 (instead of 2011!). is this a known bug?? has it been corrected in more recent ubuntu versions maybe?
[22:01] <Ilay> csmith1994, no, just ask about that issue in java programmers channel I think
[22:02] <csmith1994> Ilay: I don't believe that's the issue though, and what's the java programmers channel
[22:02] <Katsumi32> carop, type in terminal uname -a
[22:02] <ZekeS> reaper50435: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20882
[22:03] <csmith1994> Darthfett: Search WICD deb in Google
[22:03] <csmith1994> Darthfett: I gave you the incorrect name
[22:03] <Ilay> csmith1994, it's no a regular program crash cuz when the kernel is crashed it means that it's realy serious problem and may be you should write bug report to kernel developers team
[22:03] <ZekeS> It requires a newer version of WINE than what's in the 10.04 repository
[22:03] <carop> Katsumi32, I get: Linux foobar 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 12:47:45 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux  (where foobar is the hostname)
[22:03] <csmith1994> Ilay: I don't know if the kernel crashes, it simply reboots.
[22:03] <csmith1994> Ilay: without the usual shutdown step lol
[22:04] <alket_> what is persistent usb ?
[22:04] <ZekeS> reaper50435: Follow the directions here: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb to add the WINE beta packages to Synaptic
[22:04] <Ilay> csmith1994, just check log files for any kernel crash reports
[22:04] <dajhorn> alket_: It keeps your home directory on the USB stick.
[22:04] <csmith1994> ZekeS: Couldn't he just sudo apt-get install wine?
[22:04] <alket_> dajhorn, thank you
[22:05] <dajhorn> alket_: Welcome.
[22:05] <csmith1994> Ilay: How do I search the kernel log just use ctrl+F?
[22:05] <robotti^_> hello
[22:05] <Katsumi32> carop u have got some old ubuntu hardy or karmic dont you want to try ubuntu 10.04?
[22:05] <ZekeS> csmith1994: No - he needs to a) add the Wine Beta repos and 2) specifically install Wine 1.3
[22:05] <robotti^_> how to configure scrolling on my thinkpad keyboard?
[22:05] <robotti^_> using trackpoint
[22:06] <csmith1994> ZekeS: Oh he needs new versions ok didn't know he needed beta
[22:06] <ZekeS> csmith1994, reaper50435 - instructions on how to add the repos using the command line for apt-get/aptitude are at the bottom of the page I linked.
[22:06] <Ilay> csmith1994, it depends on which text editor you r using, you can use grep command for searching substrings in files too
[22:06] <csmith1994> Ilay: I opened it in gedit
[22:06] <carop> Katsumi32, I'm not the sysadmin unfortunately
[22:07] <ZekeS> reaper50435: Especially with newer games, it's helpful to check the Wine AppDB to see if you need a newer version and any special considerations you need to account for :)
[22:07] <csmith1994> carop: what do you need to do that you can't sudo
[22:07] <csmith1994> carop: or just use root
[22:07] <Ilay> csmith1994, how do you programming if you don't know how to searsh text in files?
[22:07] <ngirard_> Hi all. My gf & I are both running Ubuntu 10.04 on our laptops. We can't get to talk with each other, because of this sound problem:
[22:07] <ngirard_> in her sound preferences are two such-called "profiles", say profile 1
[22:07] <ngirard_> and profile 2. Profile 1 is labelled "Digital Stereo (HDMI)
[22:07] <ngirard_> Output+Analog Stereo Input" and profile 2 is labelled "Analog Stereo
[22:07] <cutiyar> how i active excutable bit?
[22:07] <ngirard_> Outpt". Now, using profile 1 I can hear her but she can't hear me ;
[22:07] <reaper50435> ok so I guess I need to install the wine1.3 beta version
[22:07] <ngirard_> and using profile 2 it's just the opposite.
[22:07] <carop> csmith1994, Katsumi32 was suggesting I try a more recent version of ubuntu ...
[22:07] <ngirard_> How can I solve this ?
[22:07] <Katsumi32> csmith1994, i think he say he doesnt own the pc
[22:07] <Darthfett> csmith1994, thanks, installing it now
[22:08] <csmith1994> Ilay: I'm taking a course, and downloading it as a course requirement
[22:08] <csmith1994> Darthfett: No prob
[22:08] <carop> Katsumi32, yes
[22:08] <geoffmcc> ngirard_: the one that says hdmi is for hdmi, so if that selected, unless connected to something threw hdmi, no sound
[22:08] <Ilay> csmith1994, what linux distribution/version do you use?
[22:08] <csmith1994> Katsumi32, carop: Couldn't he use a LiveCD? Changing bios is done pre login, so admin rights aren't necessary
[22:09] <robotti^_> anybody?
[22:09] <csmith1994> Ilay: Ubuntu Karmic (10.04)
[22:09] <csmith1994> !enter |ngirard
[22:09] <carop> csmith1994, urgh... this is in a network, I'm not going to set up a rogue pc and steal nfs mounts and nis passwords
[22:10] <csmith1994> carop: hate networked computers
[22:10] <Ilay> csmith1994, just send crash report tot ubuntu developers
[22:10] <csmith1994> carop: theoretically you could disconnect it from the network and use it as a local system
[22:11] <carop> csmith1994, the sysadmin would notice you know...
[22:11] <ngirard_> geoffmcc: Hi. Okay, thanks for your feedback. So we should stick to the "analog stereo" profile, right ? So, how can we get it to work properly ?
[22:11] <csmith1994> Ilay: ok, for now I'll just run it on winblows on my family PC until it's developed properly. Apparently, my teacher had no problem running older versions on his ubuntu machine, but idk what version of ubuntu he was running
[22:12] <geoffmcc>  ngirard_: yea you didnt go were i thought you were going with that, sorry i chimed in to soon
[22:12] <csmith1994> carop: so the question is less how to and more how not to get caught
[22:13] <csmith1994> carop: and how much trouble you'll get in if you do that, as well as morals (remotely lol)
[22:14] <csmith1994> carop: you could always install ubuntu on a home machine, with no monitor or anything unnecessary (no frills, just internet connection) specifically for remote access computing, then use team viewer
[22:16] <geoffmcc> ngirard_: are you using gnome?
[22:17] <ngirard_> geoffmcc: yes, we both are
[22:17] <Loshki> firefox 3.6.9 seems awfully sluggish on my lucid machine. It's just me, right?
[22:17] <csmith1994> is there anyway I can install a Windows OS from an iso on the hard drive without removable media?
[22:18] <geoffmcc> ngirard_: ngirard_: have you looked it settings sound? is that were the profile 1 and 2 you were talking about is
[22:18] <csmith1994> Loshki: you could always try chrome or opera. From my experience, opera is quite buggy though, but chrome is nice
[22:18] <voxyn> Finaly i got here the anti-spam bot asked me what month has 28 day's i didn't know the answer i needed to google for it :
[22:18] <voxyn> :P
[22:19] <geoffmcc> ngirard_: if prof 1 sound works but no mic and prof 2 no sound with mic, i would suggest look at the properties of those profiles and see whats different
[22:19] <Loshki> csmith1994: not sure, see if http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ will do the trick (see the 'frugal install' option)
[22:19] <csmith1994> Loshki: even for windows? I'm aware of how great unetbootin is for Linux, but I'm unsure of Windows
[22:19] <Loshki> csmith1994: agreed, opera is buggy, and chrome is nice but not very full featured. I may just drop back a few versions of firefox until it picks up...
[22:20] <voxyn> lokshi: Unetbootin is also great in Windows!
[22:20] <csmith1994> Loshki: I use firefox 3.5 lol.
[22:20] <chengran> Can anyone help me with a problem please?
[22:20] <voxyn> i have a problem with my kubuntu installation i installed it over my ubuntu installation and mounted my old /home partition too but when i log in it gives an error message i know it's because my home drive is encrypted i can decrypt in the command line but how do i make it decrypt automaticly on login?
[22:20] <geoffmcc> chengran: ask the question, dont ask to ask
[22:21] <chengran> The headphone jack on my computer does not work at all on ubuntu (it works fine on windows)
[22:21] <csmith1994> voxyn: unetbootin works in windows, but what I'm wondering is if it works from ubuntu to install windows
[22:21] <csmith1994> chengran: That's not a question, that's an issue. Just saying. In regard's to your problem, check to make sure the drivers are up to date
[22:21] <Loshki> csmith1994: hmm. I think you're right. unetbootin runs *on* windows, but doesn't *install* it. You might ask in #windows if there's an equivalent...
[22:22] <voxyn> csmith1994: i'm pretty sure it downst
[22:22] <voxyn> *doesn't
[22:22] <ngirard_> geoffmcc: you're right. incidentally I couldn't launch her gnome-volume-control distantly using ssh -X so I only had a look to alsamixer controls. But now we are reviewing the profiles from gnome-volume-control together, i think we are getting close to a solution
[22:23] <mrwhite0429> Hello I have a question regaurding Ipods and media extraction from a Nano. Can someone please help me?
[22:23] <wthpr0> !ask
[22:23] <geoffmcc> ngirard_: i dont know to much about sound setup, but i think thats where your problem lies
[22:24] <csmith1994> back don't understand how to switch channels in weechat
[22:24] <csmith1994> chengran: how's that working?
[22:25] <chengran> Um... how do I check my sound drivers on ubuntu?
[22:26] <chengran> Sorry I am kind of a new user and got persuaded by some friends to install this
[22:26] <mrwhite0429> I need help extracting my Music from my ipod nano
[22:26] <versuchsanstalt> forgive my ignorance about gnome specific vocab, please. how can i restart the audio volume helper that i removed from the dock at the top of the screen by accident? what's the application called?
[22:26] <JRummy16> For those who use GVIM: is there a way to get the ctrl-c and ctrl-v commands to work in GVIM? I love it except for that feature.
[22:28] <VCoolio> versuchsanstalt: right click the panel, add to panel, then find it; I'm always confused, just try, maybe indicator applet?
[22:28] <renedox> just add everything in the dialog box
[22:28] <versuchsanstalt> VCoolio: i looked in that menu for, like, hours... ;-) i'll try again . must have missed it.
[22:28] <renedox> you'll be bound to get it right then -_-; :P
[22:28] <versuchsanstalt> renedox: great idea, yes.
[22:29] <VCoolio> mrwhite0429: I'm not into the apple stuff, but if you plug it in, do you see it with 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[22:30] <VCoolio> !panels | versuchsanstalt, if you're really desperate,
[22:30] <mrwhite0429> Vcollio - I have gtk pod installed. and I tried installing yami pod but Gtk pod only lets me sync music. Yamipod is supposed to let me rip it. But yami pod wont even initialize when i click on it.
[22:30] <gverig> This is probably a question without a good answer but what are the pros and cons between Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Kubuntu? I am experienced enough to get either working, have been using ubuntu for past... I don't know how long but long time but wanted to know what are the pros and cons of them all?
[22:31] <versuchsanstalt> ubottu: that's a great idea, because i havent changed anything there yet. besides the volume knob, you know... thanks a lot.
[22:31] <VCoolio> mrwhite0429: if there are apps for it I don't have a clue, I was thinking more like mount the device and copy stuff over
[22:31] <chengran> Hi, the back sound output on my PC works fine but the headphone jack does not output sound (it works fine in windows). How can I fix this? Any help is appreciated but please be aware that I am quite new to ubuntu and am still used to operating things from a GUI
[22:31] <jrib> gverig: erm, they have the same repositories, but different desktop environments installed by default.  Your decision should be entirely based on *personal* preference
[22:32] <renedox> chengran: is it usb or 3.5mm?
[22:32] <tgp1994> Could someone add some input on this CD-RW not erasing topic? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9845938#post9845938
[22:32] <chengran> renedox, 3.5mm
[22:32] <dakota> Can anyone reccomend a chat bot app for ubuntu?
[22:32] <kai_> hey there, trying to install GRUB to computer from live ubuntu disk, can't seem to do so, anyone have a step by step guide? i tried following a few but the find /boot/grub/stage1 is never found
[22:33] <duffydack> !grub2 | kai_
[22:33] <renedox> chengran: when you're playing a song then plug in your headphones, you hear nothing?
[22:33] <frobisher> gverig ubuntu is gnome ,kubuntu is KDE,and xubuntu is xfc.
[22:33] <gverig> jrib: well, they each have their own desktop (end to end, including IM clients, filesystem browsers,, web browsers, etc). They also have different targets. I'm using Ubuntu for my work laptop.
[22:33] <kai_> currently installed is 8.04
[22:34] <kai_> @ duffydack
[22:34] <chengran> renedox, the sound continues to get output from the back port but nothing in the headphones
[22:34] <jrib> gverig: they have a different *default* desktop environment, but they're all available regardless of which you install
[22:34] <versuchsanstalt> VCoolio: it was the indicator applet, benachrichtigungsanzeige in german. thanks again.
[22:34] <gverig> frobisher: yup. I get the gist, I'm asking for personal opinions or maybe some hard facts (optimization/flexibility/performance/etc)
[22:34] <renedox> chengran: is power going to the headphones? some headphones have an LED on them
[22:34] <VCoolio> versuchsanstalt: no problem
[22:34] <expiation> noob question: I have used windows all my life, lots of people talk about ubuntu on irc though is it something worth switching to? will i be completely lost and hate it?
[22:34] <chengran> renedox, no LED, any other way I could tell?
[22:35] <gverig> jrib: yeah, I've tried installing multiples- you usually end up with a mess of applications and inefficient environment.
[22:35] <renedox> gverig: it's all personal preference, some like GNOME while others like KDE, etc
[22:35] <jrib> expiation: try a live cd (nothing to install) and see for yourself
[22:35] <tgp1994> Could someone add some input on this CD-RW not erasing topic? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9845938#post9845938
[22:35] <mrwhite0429> Vcoolio - Well Thats the thing. Apple uses either HFS+ or FAT32. But the File Structures are locked. So mounting and extracting doesnt work to well.
[22:35] <kai_> any advice @ duffydack?
[22:35] <renedox> chengran: not that I know of, try getting a headset which does and see if it gets power. might be a good place to start
[22:36] <saik> e guys, anyone know where ubuntu stores FF addrss searches?
[22:36] <duffydack> kai_,  doesnt sudo grub-install /dev/sda work for grub1 ?
[22:36] <dakota> IRC chatbot for UBUNYU?
[22:36] <chengran> renedox, is the fact that it works on windows any help or no?
[22:36] <gverig> frobisher, jrib: basically, at first KDE was leading as far as functionality and Gnome was lagging. Then they matched up and Gnome seemed a bit leaner. XFCE lacked functionality and I had to install Gnome apps to cover that. I don't know where theya re all now and I didn't want to try them all so I asked for thoughts/opinions
[22:36] <duffydack> kai_, its been too long since I used grub1, sorry..  consider upgrading :)
[22:36] <renedox> chengran: not really, it just means that the headphones you are using is probably fine,
[22:37] <jrib> gverig: it's just personal preference, they goal of all of them is to be usable
[22:37] <renedox> chengran: problem could be ubuntu not sending any power to the headphones
[22:37] <expiation> jrib: i got that installed in vmware but I never know what to do with it
[22:37] <kai_> "could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device"
[22:37] <gverig> frobisher, jrib: So, for laptop OS, desktop, primary machine, developer (java/C++/other), some browsing and what not- what do you thing is better
[22:37] <jrib> expiation: what do you mean?  Do whatever you want to do on your computer :P
[22:37] <VCoolio> saik: if it does, it's in ~/.mozilla/firefox/blahcode.default  somewhere
[22:37] <kai_> linux is not currently installed, just windows 7. looking to swap out windows MBL with grub
[22:37] <kai_> however running a linux live cd
[22:37] <jrib> gverig: none is better, it's what you prefer
[22:37] <kai_> @ daffydack
[22:37] <gverig> jrib: k, thanks.
[22:37] <saik> VCoolio: I know it des, and I can't find it :@
[22:37] <gverig> fair enough
[22:38] <duffydack> kai_, why do you wanna install grub when you dont have ubuntu installed ??
[22:38] <saik> VCoolio: could I change the default to something else andit would remake everything?
[22:38] <gverig> I'll go ask same question in other forums ;)
[22:38] <tgp1994> Could someone add some input on this CD-RW not erasing topic? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9845938#post9845938
[22:38] <chengran> renedox, are there not any software checks which could determine it/other common problems that might cause this?
[22:38] <jrib> gverig: just a waste of time, use what you like
[22:38] <frobisher> gverig:Ubuntu is gnome by default,so it is better to;when in Rome to do what the romans do.
[22:38] <renedox> chengran: I think there is but that's a bit above me, someone else here might know how to
[22:38] <VCoolio> saik: yes, no harm except add-ons will be lost too
[22:39] <gverig> jrib: that's the point- I have used only Gnome in last X years. I don't know where KDE/XFCE are at the moment with applicaitons/funcitonality/etc.
[22:39] <expiation> jrib: on my computer i usually just use firefox vlc media player, irc and msn i found msn and firefox with the default screen that comes up in ubuntu but i dont know how to do the others
[22:39] <jrib> gverig: try them :)
[22:39] <chengran> renedox, ok, thanks anyway
[22:39] <VCoolio> saik: but then, use the ff menu to delete history and cookies and stuff
[22:39] <chengran> Hi, the back sound output on my PC works fine but the headphone jack does not output sound (it works fine in windows). How can I fix this? Any help is appreciated but please be aware that I am quite new to ubuntu and am still used to operating things from a GUI
[22:39] <saik> VCoolio: but I could move those just the same lol
[22:39] <gverig> jrib: That's an option. One I wanted to avoid (time constraints) but it's an option nonetheless :)
[22:39] <kai_> just looking for the grub software duffydack . windows 7 is not working accordingly and it's a known issue. however, i'd just like to install grub, if you wouldn't mind. the actual bootable partition is sda2 (NTFS)\
[22:39] <jrib> expiation: well vlc is in the repositories and for irc, try xchat
[22:39] <archstanton43> ive searched everywhere for the screensaver to rotate the cube on ubuntu. Anyone know or have instructions on how to get it working on 10.04
[22:40] <jrib> gverig: if gnome works for you and you're comfortable with it, stick with it
[22:40] <zfe> hello
[22:40] <saik> !hi
[22:40] <archstanton43> ive got the cube working no probs
[22:40] <zfe> i just got a new netbook
[22:40] <tgp1994> Could someone add some input on this CD-RW not erasing topic? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9845938#post9845938
[22:40] <expiation> jrib can you link me to the repositories or a guide on them
[22:40] <zfe> what should i install on it, linux mint or ubuntu=
[22:40] <archstanton43> please help someone im desperate
[22:40] <jrib> !repos | expiation
[22:40] <duffydack> kai_, I dont think you can install it without having boot files on a partition for it to reference... it needs them to display the menu..
[22:40] <jrib> !software | expiation
[22:41] <chengran> Hi, the back sound output on my PC works fine but the headphone jack does not output sound (it works fine in windows). How can I fix this? Any help is appreciated but please be aware that I am quite new to ubuntu and am still used to operating things from a GUI
[22:41] <kai_> hmm
[22:41] <kai_> okay ill have to check out widnnows...thanks though
[22:41] <jrib> expiation: make sure you've enabled universe and multiverse in System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[22:42] <Gargoyle> Good evening. Anyone got any advice on setting umask for apache? I have it in envvars, but a simple php script is telling me it is 0022 and not 0002 as I want (Well, I think thats what I want, all the online docs are telling me 3 digits 002, but umask gives me 4 back!)
[22:42] <archstanton43> anyone used the rotating cube screensaver ??
[22:42] <Gargoyle> Any ideas?
[22:42] <VCoolio> saik: I think you need places.sqlite in the default folder for browse history
[22:43] <tgp1994> Could someone add some input on this CD-RW not erasing topic? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9845938#post9845938
[22:43] <saik> VCoolio: nope, that's not it
[22:43] <saik> just one line in that file
[22:43] <jrib> Gargoyle: you restart apache after adding umask to /etc/apache2/envvars?
[22:43] <fliegenderfrosch> chengran: do you have a model name?
[22:43] <Gargoyle> jrib: Yup
[22:44] <duffydack> kai_,  issues with windows bootloader?
[22:44] <kai_> mega
[22:44] <kai_> its actually with a file really during the boot process
[22:44] <kai_> classpnp.sys
[22:44] <jrib> Gargoyle: that should work...
[22:44] <chengran> fliegenderfrosch, For my sound card or my headset?
[22:44] <fliegenderfrosch> chengran: or have you checked in the settings if it isn’t muted?
[22:45] <Gargoyle> jrib: I have it at 0002, but a simple file_put_contents() gives me -rw-r--r--
[22:45] <kai_> @ duffydack
[22:45] <renedox> chengran: use alsamixer to check that fyi ;)
[22:45] <jrib> Gargoyle: how did you restart the server?
[22:45] <saik> VCoolio: NY OTHER IDEAS?
[22:45] <saik> (sorr bout caps, hit it on accident)
[22:45] <Gargoyle> jrib: and echo `umask` gives 0022
[22:45] <Gargoyle> jrib: apache2ctl restart
[22:45] <tgp1994> Could someone add some input on this CD-RW not erasing topic? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9845938#post9845938
[22:45] <duffydack> kai_, not sure how to fix that.  #windows  ?
[22:46] <kai_> AYE
[22:46] <jrib> Gargoyle: apache is the one you installed from the repositories?
[22:46] <kai_> aye* thx
[22:46] <dragon> I tried installing Ubuntu on someone's system using wubi using the official pressed LiveCD, and it kept forcing download of the amd64 version with estimated download time over 24 hours. Is there a simple way around this issue without making Ubuntu look complicated and ugly? What's the right place to whine about this?
[22:46] <VCoolio> saik: no, that's the one for me; do you have some version of firefox that has it's own folder in ~/.mozilla like .mozilla/firefox-3.7 ?
[22:46] <Gargoyle> jrib: Yeah, tasksel -> LAMP
[22:46] <jrib> Gargoyle: don't know, maybe try #httpd
[22:46] <duffydack> kai_, even with grub, you`d get the error.. grub just chainloads
[22:46] <fliegenderfrosch> chengran: i guess your headset has a 3.5mm jack, so it can’t really be the problem
[22:46] <Gargoyle> jrib: Ta anyway!
[22:47] <saik> VCoolio: nope, I haven't copiled anything on this pc, i's all from symantec
[22:47] <frobisher> gverig:Linus Torvalds uses Gnome,untill the others catch up on development.
[22:47] <chengran> fliegenderfrosch, ye
[22:47] <tgp1994> Could someone add some input on this CD-RW not erasing topic? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9845938#post9845938
[22:47] <VCoolio> saik: you can also have different firefox versions together with synaptic, but anyway, I don't know then, sorry
[22:47] <chengran> fliegenderfrosch, It's not muted afaik
[22:48] <saik> VCoolio: I have 3.6.9
[22:48] <chengran> fliegenderfrosch, Sound plays from the jack on the back panel (i.e. speakers) but nothing happens if I plug in my headset
[22:48] <g_3man> hello
[22:48] <saik> VCoolio: I suppose I'll change the default and move bookmarks and extentions oer lol
[22:48] <fliegenderfrosch> chengran: is the sound on the speakers muted when you plug your headset?
[22:49] <chengran> fliegenderfrosch, no
[22:49] <g_3man> for what version of linux is this patch: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/168822/ ?
[22:49] <archstanton43> please anyone compiz rotating cube screensaver is it possible 10.04
[22:49] <g_3man> how i can get this information?
[22:49] <archstanton43> i used to use it on beryl
[22:49] <nastjuid> hey guys, I'm trying to do: for i in `grep 192 list`;do ssh user@$i 'echo blah';done   it works on the first machine in the list, but it seems like ssh doesn't exit when it's done running the command. Any ideas?
[22:49] <renedox> archstanton43: yes, it is possible but I turned it off
[22:50] <archstanton43> the screensaver
[22:50] <archstanton43> how
[22:50] <tgp1994> Could someone add some input on this CD-RW not erasing topic? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9845938#post9845938
[22:50] <chengran> fliegenderfrosch, sound plays through the speakers while my headset is plugged in
[22:50] <renedox> archstanton43: I just enabled it and disabled it :\
[22:50] <fliegenderfrosch> chengran: and you have checked the settings if the line out channel isnt’t muted? (sometimes this is the case for no good reason)
[22:50] <archstanton43> renedox its not part of default install
[22:50] <archstanton43> renedox are you just thinking of the cube
[22:50] <renedox> archstanton43: oh yeah, forgot about that -_-;
[22:51] <renedox> archstanton43: no
[22:51] <saik> VCoolio: either way, thanks, I'll investigate more later lol
[22:51] <archstanton43> renedox i would be forever gratefull if you had any pointers web link etc
[22:51] <Poul|Raider> Hey, anyone with a working firewall/router script using iptables which use port forwarding.  My setup is two interfaces, eth0(local) and eth1(internet)  I want nat so all incoming on eth0 goes out of eth1 like its the same machine. (i already got this working, but cant get my portforwarding to work), so if someone got the same setup and have a firewall script i can see it would be nice
[22:52] <archstanton43> renedox im on the compiz wiki and found it on there but no idea how to get it
[22:53] <davidm777> I'm in need of some Grub help -> I have 1 HD for /home and another for everything else.  I am reconfiguring and now want to use /home HD in another computer.  Every time I boot, I get "error: no such device: ###... / grub rescue>"  I've been RTFMing to no avail (no confidence I'm looking in the right places!).  Any ideas?
[22:53] <soreau> ! compiz | archstanton43
[22:53] <chengran> fliegenderfrosch, actually i t seems fiddling with the alsamixer doesn't change the volume at all
[22:53] <gverig> frobisher: sorry I missed last response... I meant something a bit more concrete than what Linus uses or that Gnome is the default for Ubuntu. Ubuntu is a distro and I think difference will be more dramatic between Gnome vs. KDE rather than between Ubuntu or Kubuntu teams.
[22:54] <chengran> Do I need to somehow make it use alsa mixer instead of the default one?
[22:54] <archstanton43> soreau ive been there doesnt help
[22:54] <sebsebseb> Hi
[22:55] <chengran> fliegenderfrosch, but if I tell it to mute master front it does mute sound
[22:55] <CT1> Hi. I have some videos with subtitle files.  They play ok in windows with vlc, but here the greek subtitles in vlc show as strange characters.  Is this a vlc issue or ubuntu?
[22:55] <archstanton43> renedox ive downloaded package.zip from wiki.compiz.org but not sure what to do with files inside
[22:55] <renedox> archstanton43: I remember that the cube won't work if you have more than four virtual desktops
[22:55] <tgp1994> Could someone add some input on this CD-RW not erasing topic? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9845938#post9845938
[22:55] <fliegenderfrosch> chengran: is it a notebook or a desktop?
[22:55] <chengran> fliegenderfrosch, ohwait nevermind that's because I'm using the surround port instead of the front port for my speakers
[22:56] <saik> CT1: did you install the language packs for it?
[22:56] <chengran> fliegenderfrosch, ye the surround volume thing does work to change the volume
[22:56] <archstanton43> renedox ive got the cube working fine and i only use 4 desktops
[22:56] <soreau> archstanton43: Compiz is already installed. If you come to #compiz, I will help you set it up
[22:56] <Poul|Raider> iptables -t nat -L shows DNAT       tcp  --  anywhere             82.211.214.96       tcp spts:1024:65535 dpt:4000 to:192.168.0.11:3389
[22:56] <Poul|Raider> but it dont work
[22:56] <CT1> saik: in ubuntu or vlc?  the subtitles file has 'strange' characters in gedit too...
[22:56] <saik> fliegenderfrosch, chengran: some pcs want surround instead of front. this laptop is like that
[22:57] <SQFreak> I have Ubuntu 10.10 Beta Netbook Edition, and many dialog boxes run off the bottom of the screen and I can't move them up far enough or resize them. Suggestions?
[22:57] <chengran> fliegenderfrosch, it's because the main output is a bit messed up on the motherboard the balance is really weird so I use the surround port instead
[22:57] <xangua> !maverick > SQFreak
[22:57] <sebsebseb> !10.10 | SQFreak
[22:58] <actionparsnip> SQFreak: my suggestion is to install Lucid
[22:58] <chengran> fliegenderfrosch, although for some reason if I mute the headphones it mutes the sound which is a bit strange
[22:58] <SQFreak> actionparsnip: Well, I had the same problem on Lucid, but okay...
[22:58] <saik> CT1: try the ubuntu ones frst
[22:58] <tgp1994> Could someone add some input on this CD-RW not erasing topic? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9845938#post9845938
[22:58] <CT1> saik: I'll try. Thanks
[22:59] <Polarina> Where can I find the corresponding OpenGL 3.x headers with the current nvidia driver?
[22:59] <actionparsnip> SQFreak: maverick is still in development so has a lot of bugs and feature holes
[22:59] <saik> Polarina: it should eb in the .run they provide...
[23:00] <Polarina> saik, I installed the restricted driver that came with ubuntu.
[23:00] <cyclist_2> Hello, there! I need help getting all my USB hard drives' icons showing on the desktop; the thing is: they *are* mounted, but their icons do not appear on the desktop; any ideas?
[23:00] <fliegenderfrosch> chengran: is it a sound card, onboard sound or a notebook?
[23:00] <chengran> fliegenderfrosch, It's a desktop with onboard sound
[23:00] <saik> Polarina: I's sugest goig with nvidia's driver on te website
[23:00] <xangua> cyclist_2: is nautilus running¿
[23:01] <SQFreak> actionparsnip: Okay, but nemo in #ubuntu+1 already solved my problem, and it's not a Maverick bug. It's because my screen resolution is low. I have to Alt+LeftClick to force drag a window off-screen.
[23:01] <cyclist_2> xangua: yes, it is
[23:01] <MaMoUs> i have a problem with Alsa, i cant install the new alsa driver even when i have the App, E: Couldn't find package linux-alsa-driver-modules-2.6.32-25-generic
[23:01] <cyclist_2> I have just closed it and then restarted it, but no joy...
[23:01] <saik> Polarina: but that's personal preference and opnion
[23:02] <renedox> cyclist_2: logged out and logged back in with the device plugged in?
[23:02] <fliegenderfrosch> chengran: well, the only thing I can think of is googling the sound chip and ubuntu
[23:02] <tgp1994> Could someone add some input on this CD-RW not erasing topic? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9845938#post9845938
[23:03] <cyclist_2> renedox: I have just restarted my PC, and now I am missing 2 icons; before, I only had I missing
[23:03] <MaMoUs> Microphone not Working, after update-manager, Ubuntu 10.04
[23:03] <chengran> fliegenderfrosch, ok thanks
[23:03] <cyclist_2> renedox: I never switch off my USB hard drives; in case of a restart, they are always on
[23:04] <davidm777> After adding a 2nd HD (from another system), I'm getting 'error: no such device: ###-###.... / grub rescue>'   Any ideas on how to remove GRUB info from an existing HD? (is that even the right question)?
[23:04] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> hi i burned ubuntu's live cd to a disk, how can i sha256-checksum the whole disk to see if it matches the iso file's checksum. I know ubuntu has the test disk before install option, i would not to use that option.
[23:05] <renedox> cyclist_2: just logout and back in again then ;)
[23:05] <cyclist_2> xangua, renedox: I run 'nautilus --check' and it did not complain of anything...
[23:06] <cyclist_2> renedox: ok...
[23:06] <fliegenderfrosch> asdfasdfasdfasdf: I always use "md5sum -c"
[23:06] <tgp1994> Could someone add some input on this CD-RW not erasing topic? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9845938#post9845938
[23:06] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> fliegenderfrosch, yes but i think that would try to digg file by file through disk's folders
[23:06] <tgp1994> I'd really like it if someone could help me solve this problem.
[23:07] <JohnnyL> I want to get the latest version of g++ but apt-get tells me I have the latest version (but I only have version 4.3.4).. What should I do?
[23:07] <MaMoUs> Microphone stop working after update-manager, in Ubuntu 10.04
[23:07] <jshmoe24> Hi I am running ubuntu 10.04 and I have a 320 gig portable harddrive that I have been using. I wanted to clean up the folder structure and came upon 2 folders that are obviously empty but from the comand line it shows files within them. Not only that but when I go to erase the folders I get a input/output error. I have tried erasing through nautilus and through the command line. Any help would be greatly appreciated please.
[23:07] <IdleOne> !sound | MaMoUs
[23:08] <IdleOne> MaMoUs: specifically the Input device
[23:08] <IdleOne> make sure the correct one is selected
[23:08] <jshmoe24> Anyone?
[23:08] <fliegenderfrosch> asdfasdfasdfasdf: yes, it does (i guess that’s what the "test disk" option does as well
[23:09] <tgp1994> I'd really like it if someone could help me solve this problem.
[23:09] <ZekeS> JohnnyL: Consider compiling from source or adding g++'s own repos to Synaptic/aptitude
[23:09] <renedox> jshmoe24: do you have permission to delete the folder? try an "ls -la"
[23:09] <jshmoe24> yes
[23:09] <jshmoe24> I did a chmod 777
[23:09] <DasEi> tgp1994: I just joined, which prob ?
[23:09] <renedox> jshmoe24: do you own the folder?
[23:09] <erkan^> when come mozilla firefox 4 officiel version?
[23:09] <ZekeS> JohnnyL: sometimes, the versions of programs in Ubuntu's repos lags behind the latest release
[23:09] <Dice-Man> hi people
[23:09] <JohnnyL> ZekeS: ok, but what is synaptic/aptitude?
[23:09] <jshmoe24> let me check
[23:09] <tgp1994> DasEi: I linked to it :)
[23:09] <wissem> hello
[23:09] <jshmoe24> thanks for the help :)
[23:09] <JohnnyL> ZekeS ah ok
[23:09] <ZekeS> JohnnyL: package manager
[23:09] <Dice-Man> i forgot the name of the openoffice irc channel
[23:09] <tgp1994> DasEi: Whoops, sorry, one sexc
[23:09] <ZekeS> :p
[23:09] <wissem> how can i edit/add menu
[23:10] <wissem> ?
[23:10] <tgp1994> DasEi: Could someone add some input on this CD-RW not erasing topic? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9845938#post9845938
[23:10] <IdleOne> Dice-Man: #openoffice.org
[23:10] <Dice-Man> someone could give him it ?
[23:10] <ZekeS> erkan^: ask the Firefox people
[23:10] <davidm777> jshmoe24 - can you tell us what ls -la shows?
[23:10] <Dice-Man> ok IdleOne big thanks
[23:10] <jshmoe24> at renedox, yes I have ownership
[23:10] <erkan^> ok ZekeS
[23:10] <IdleOne> Dice-Man: sure thing
[23:10] <jshmoe24> one sec
[23:10] <jshmoe24> I will post output
[23:10] <jshmoe24> drwx------ 1 jshmoe12 jshmoe12 4096 2010-09-14 17:55 .
[23:10] <jshmoe24> drwx------ 1 jshmoe12 jshmoe12 4096 2010-09-14 17:22 ..
[23:10] <jshmoe24> drwx------ 1 jshmoe12 jshmoe12 4096 2010-09-14 17:29 A
[23:10] <jshmoe24> drwx------ 1 jshmoe12 jshmoe12 4096 2010-09-14 17:29 B
[23:10] <FloodBot4> jshmoe24: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:10] <jshmoe24> oops
[23:11] <fliegenderfrosch> wissem: do you mean the applications menu? you can edit that by right-clicking and selecting the menu editor
[23:11] <cyclist_2> renedox: no joy, here...; the missing icons are still to be found...; somewhere...
[23:11] <davidm777> jshmoe24: if you use 'rm -rf A/' do you get ANY response/output or just the prompt?
[23:11] <tgp1994> You know what would be really funny? If several people spammed, then the flood bots started to message them, then the floodbots message each other...
[23:11] <jshmoe24> hold i will try again
[23:12] <tgp1994> DasEi: Any ideas?
[23:12] <renedox> jshmoe24: failing the above from davidm777, how about adding a sudo in front of the command?
[23:12] <DasEi> tgp1994: you will have to do it as root (sudo infront) and then use the devicename rather then the mountpoint, so sudo cdrecord /dev/sr0 blank=fast
[23:12] <jshmoe24> I gave the command "sudo rm -r <foldername>, and I got this as a responce >>  rm: cannot remove `A/Files/popstation.dll': Input/output error
[23:12] <jshmoe24> that was just one of the files it said this on
[23:12] <tgp1994> DasEi: Huh, weird. It worked fine for awhile. I can't believe it doesn't ask for permission, either.
[23:12] <jshmoe24> there were about 30 files that it said that about
[23:13] <renedox> cyclist_2: all USB devices or just that one hard drive?
[23:13] <renedox> jshmoe24: what are the permissions and owners of those three files?
[23:13] <cyclist_2> only 2 of them; the rest come up fine
[23:13] <jshmoe24> one sec
[23:13] <cyclist_2> sorry, renedox
[23:13] <DrDark> is there a package lets you have a media server with your video files for sharing with the ps3?
[23:14] <IdleOne> DrDark: mediatomb
[23:14] <ZekeS> DrDark: ^
[23:14] <renedox> cyclist_2: have you tried it on another computer to see if it works there?
[23:14] <jshmoe24> This is the output of the files inside the troubling folder >> drwx------ 1 jshmoe12 jshmoe12 4096 2010-09-14 17:29 .
[23:14] <jshmoe24> drwx------ 1 jshmoe12 jshmoe12 4096 2010-09-14 17:55 ..
[23:14] <jshmoe24> -????????? ? ?        ?           ?                ? Batch mode.lnk
[23:14] <jshmoe24> -????????? ? ?        ?           ?                ? Clasic mode.lnk
[23:14] <jshmoe24> drwx------ 1 jshmoe12 jshmoe12    0 2010-09-14 17:29 Custom pics
[23:14] <FloodBot4> jshmoe24: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:14] <jshmoe24> drwx------ 1 jshmoe12 jshmoe12 4096 2010-06-06 15:05 Files
[23:14] <IdleOne> jshmoe24: pastebin
[23:14] <tgp1994> lol
[23:14] <cyclist_2> renedox: to be precise: the missing icons refer to 'partitions' on the internal hard drive
[23:14] <jshmoe24> those two files have ownership of  ?????????
[23:14] <tgp1994> Did he get kicked?
[23:15] <ormurin> Hello, I cannot seem to unpack .shr files. Can anyone help me? (I'm supposed to ask here right?)
[23:15] <jshmoe24> sorry
[23:15] <renedox> lol
[23:15] <jshmoe24> don't know how to use postbin
[23:15] <davidm777> jshmoe24: also might want to try 'sudo chmod -R 777 A/' to make sure ALL files are r/w(?).  However, I have no idea if the error you're getting is important!  Might want to look into that first (although .dlls are Windows, no?!?)
[23:15] <khalidmian> i request help with ubuntu installation which i have tried myriad of time but failed
[23:15] <renedox> jshmoe24: please use pastebin to avoid being kicked ;)
[23:15] <DasEi> tgp1994: sudo wodim -vv dev=/dev/sr0 blank=all, try that
[23:15] <ZekeS> khalidmian: what's the issue you're having
[23:15] <khalidmian> ZekeS: i am trying to install Ubuntu LTS  on mt sony vaio vpccw13fd
[23:15] <renedox> cyclist_2: the internal partitions are connected by usb?
[23:15] <cyclist_2> renedox: I do not have that alternative; but they all used to appear ok...
[23:15] <DasEi> tgp1994: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning
[23:16] <DrDark> i'll take it as a no....
[23:16] <khalidmian> ZekeS: it has an nvidia geforce graphic card g210m
[23:16] <VCoolio> jshmoe24: I had that, it helped for some minutes to physically remove and plug back in and remount; if it's ntfs you could run a check disk app with windows
[23:16] <jshmoe24> Well I have files that I wanted to save on my portable hard drive and yes some of the files in the hard drive folder that is giving me trouble are windows files but still when I use nautilus to look at the folder it shows nothing in the folder, but when I use the command line to cd to the folder it show a ton of files within it.
[23:16] <jshmoe24> already tried that but tahnks VCoolio
[23:16] <khalidmian> ZekeS: evertime i try ubuntu installation the install goes into ablack screen
[23:16] <renedox> jshmoe24: davidm777 I've had that ???? thing before, it means a corrupt sector on the hard drive
[23:17] <fliegenderfrosch> ormurin: what have you tried?
[23:17] <IdleOne> DrDark: try mediatomb
[23:17] <davidm777> renedox: jshmoe24:  yick!
[23:17] <jshmoe24> oh no
[23:17] <renedox> it can be repaired, don't remember what I used though, think it was fsck
[23:17] <jshmoe24> so I should do a check disk?
[23:17] <renedox> jshmoe24: yes
[23:17] <jshmoe24> kk thanks guys
[23:17] <khalidmian> ZekeS: pls help if poss
[23:17] <fliegenderfrosch> ormurin: according to what i’ve read, you should be able to execute them in order to unpack them
[23:17] <cyclist_2> renedox: no, they are just partitions assigned to specific purposes [and they are formated in ext3 {the internal disk is formated in NTFS, but it shows ok, as usual}]
[23:17] <erkan^> ZekeS: The official release of Firefox 4 is tentatively scheduled for November 2010.
[23:17] <jshmoe24> really appreciate the help. Keep making this the best channel for help with the best OS in the world :)
[23:18] <jshmoe24> l8r
[23:18] <renedox> cyclist_2: you may have to manually mount it in your fstab file
[23:18] <renedox> jsurfer: good luck :P
[23:18] <erkan^> over 2 mouth
[23:18] <erkan^> (-:
[23:18] <renedox> er..
[23:18] <erkan^> I am very curious
[23:18] <renedox> lol
[23:18] <ZekeS> khalidmian: I can't, sorry :(
[23:18] <ZekeS> erkan^: kewl
[23:18] <Guest93819> hi, i just installed lamp-server with tasksel, its working when when i do a php file test firefox prompts me to download the php file instead of rendering it! any ideas?
[23:18] <erkan^> (-:
[23:18] <cyclist_2> renedox: but they are all mounted already...; I can navigate them without any problem
[23:19] <khalidmian> can anyone assist with the issue i am facing
[23:19] <jrib> !lamp | Guest93819
[23:19] <jrib> Guest93819: read the troubleshooting steps for that issue in ubottu's link
[23:19] <renedox> cyclist_2: oh ok, create a manual symlink on your desktop then, I guess..
[23:19] <renedox> cyclist_2: not sure why it's not showing up automatically, maybe ask in #gnome ?
[23:20] <sui-juris> ok
[23:20] <cyclist_2> renedox: at this rate, it will not be too long and I will have none of those icons showing on my desktop
[23:20] <davidm777> When taking a HardDrive from one box to another, I now get the following: 'error: no such device: ###-##... / grub rescue>'  Any ideas on how to get around this?!?
[23:20] <sui-juris> i just went on this magical journey to get my dad to use linux
[23:20] <Poul|Raider> anyone with a iptables script generator that supports portforwarding and such, for ubuntu server
[23:20] <DasEi> tgp1994: was distracted for a minute, did it work ?
[23:21] <renedox> cyclist_2: lol, try a windows hail mary? haha (format && reinstall) :P
[23:21] <jrib> !firewall | Poul|Raider
[23:21] <sui-juris> it worked but i had to recover his files. but they are ALL his old users files. he can not write to them
[23:21] <sui-juris> how can i change the ownership to ALL of the files at once.
[23:21] <cyclist_2> renedox: that is a good idea; I will pop out to #gnome now for a while
[23:21] <renedox> cyclist_2: good luck ;)
[23:21] <jrib> !permissions > sui-juris
[23:21] <MaMoUs> IdleOne: it is not working i try all of that
[23:22] <jrib> sui-juris: chown has -R, make sure you know what you are doing as it's a great way to wreck an install
[23:22] <DasEi> Question: Is there a way to make gedit automatically scrolling to the bottom if I open a large file / if the file is changing ti also auto reloads ?
[23:22] <fliegenderfrosch> sui-juris: "chown -R <user> <folder>"
[23:22] <sui-juris> THANK YOU that save me a lot of time. i was trying to use wildcards. but that didn't work :p
[23:22] <CyL> Hi, I need some help configuring a huawei e156c 3g modem in ubuntu using gnomeppp... wouls anyone recommend a good reading on the subject?
[23:22] <DasEi> fliegenderfrosch: sudo infront
[23:23] <fliegenderfrosch> DasEi: right, or "sudo !!" after finding out it didn’t work :)
[23:23] <sui-juris> i sudo's thx
[23:24] <DasEi> CyL: tried sudo pppoeconf ? modem gets found ?
[23:24] <renedox> fliegenderfrosch: would <user>:<user> be better or does it achieve the same effect?
[23:24] <DasEi> renedox: for chowning a folder to a user simple syntaax is fine
[23:24] <khalidmian> i guess not
[23:24] <CyL> DasEi: the modem is actually found... I'll try that, just a sec
[23:24] <renedox> oh ok
[23:26] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> hello where could i get ubuntu 10.04 (not 10.04.1) sha256 checksum?
[23:26] <fliegenderfrosch> renedox: afaik your version would also change the group
[23:26] <jrib> !md5sums | asdfasdfasdfasdf
[23:26] <CyL> DasEi: should the modem be listed as an ethernet interface in ppoeconf?
[23:26] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> jrib, please read, sha256 ^^
[23:26] <khalidmian> advance help requested
[23:26] <bstarek> hello everybody
[23:27] <jrib> asdfasdfasdfasdf: I don't know that those are anywhere, just use the md5sum
[23:27] <renedox> fliegenderfrosch: yeah, it does. guess it's good if you're restricting by group permissions too
[23:27] <DasEi> CyL: ppoeconf searches for an accespoint and then trie to configure your login information
[23:27] <DasEi> tries*
[23:27] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> jrib, ai don't fully trust md5, i prefer sha356.
[23:27] <fliegenderfrosch> asdfasdfasdfasdf: see here ftp://ftp2.es.freebsd.org/ubuntu-releases/10.04/
[23:27] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> 256*
[23:27] <jrib> asdfasdfasdfasdf: erm, for this usage it's fine.
[23:27] <trism> asdfasdfasdfasdf: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/release/
[23:27] <CyL> DasEi: the problem is that it only lists my ethernet interfaces
[23:27] <jrib> asdfasdfasdfasdf: anyway, http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/SHA256SUMS
[23:28] <dreamy_> why does skype makes my Camera Do image Perfectly, and no other webcam application that i know about, can ? its an ov511 anyone hepling?
[23:28] <jrib> asdfasdfasdfasdf: oh, those seem to do 10.04.1 for some reason...
[23:28] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> fliegenderfrosch, ehm i did and those only include 10.04.1 for desktop, only sha256 for netbook there.
[23:28] <Jordan_U> davidm777: Try re-installing grub following this guide: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[23:29] <aboSamoor> any suggested buzz and twitter app ?
[23:29] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> trism, oh your links have the 10.04 dvd :O
[23:29] <trism> asdfasdfasdfasdf: sorry those are only the dvds it seems
[23:29] <trism> asdfasdfasdfasdf: yeah just noticed
[23:29] <davidm777> Jordan_U: thanks!  I'll look into that ASAP.
[23:29] <Jordan_U> davidm777: You're welcome.
[23:30] <atoi> Hi all
[23:30] <Guest93819> jrib, thanks, that got it working/
[23:30] <DasEi> CyL: I don't know this paarticular modem, is it ub ?
[23:30] <DasEi> usb
[23:30] <jrib> Guest93819: no problem
[23:30] <atoi> So I have installed an Ubuntu hardy image on amazon EC2 from an AMI I found there in the community AMIs
[23:31] <atoi> But when I go to log in, it tells me I can't log in as root, please log in as the Ubuntu user.
[23:31] <atoi> Our key-pair is for root, though.
[23:31] <CyL> DasEi: yes... it looks like it is recognized as /dev/ttyUSB0
[23:31] <fliegenderfrosch> asdfasdfasdfasdf: ubuntu http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/releases/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso  sha256:d94cf3c884dc7b8960992acec61fcfa6b4a0566cc02ad19895aefc1971f201bf
[23:31] <atoi> Are all Ubuntu images going to have this demand "out of the box" that I not log in as root?
[23:31] <tensorpudding> atoi: Ubuntu usually has the root account disabled..
[23:31] <CyL> DasEi: Ubuntu sees it as a serial terminal
[23:31] <atoi> great.
[23:31] <atoi> I wonder why they provide this image on EC2 at all.
[23:31] <tensorpudding> atoi: the install process usually creates a single user that has full sudo privs
[23:32] <DasEi> CyL: try lsusb
[23:32] <atoi> puzzling.
[23:32] <bastidrazor> atoi: you should contact the provider, Ubuntu has the root account locked by default.
[23:32] <tensorpudding> atoi: but for all I know, this EC2 image is heavily modified
[23:32] <tjubaluba> atoi, your way might not be the best way
[23:32] <atoi> tensorpudding, yeah... it's just... on EC2 like they let you make "key-pairs" to authenticate with...
[23:32] <CyL> DasEi: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 12d1:1003 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E220 HSDPA Modem / E270 HSDPA/HSUPA Modem
[23:32] <atoi> and those are root logins, AFAIK
[23:32] <ProNihilist> hello, whenever I have any level of visual effects enabled restoring applications from being minimised has a 1 or 2 second delay which is rather frustrating.
[23:32] <atoi> tjubaluba, it's not my way, it's what I'm allowed to do with Amazon, dude.
[23:33] <DasEi> cyl: second, looking sth. up
[23:33] <CyL> DasEi: interesting... it is recognized as E229, but the model as printed on the modem case is E156C
[23:33] <tensorpudding> atoi: You should check the documentation provided with the image I suppose
[23:33] <CyL> *E220
[23:35] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> fliegenderfrosch, thanks a lot! it matches my disk ^^ i did (sha256 /dev/cdrom), just out of curiosity where you get that from? i don't see it in that link anywhere.
[23:35] <atoi> tensorpudding, lol. there's no documentation, my friend, it's just a image name on the AMI select screen.
[23:35] <DasEi> CyL: sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch usb-modeswitch-data
[23:36] <DasEi> CyL: I assume you use lucid ?
[23:37] <fliegenderfrosch> asdfasdfasdfasdf: i got it from https://belug.de/~beldi/get_distributions_url.php?format=txt which i got from googling "sha256 ubutu 10.04"
[23:37] <CyL> DasEi: yeah, lucid... just a sec
[23:38] <fliegenderfrosch> asdfasdfasdfasdf: this command actually works? that’s way simpler than the "-c" method
[23:38] <CyL> DasEi: done
[23:39] <DasEi> gksudo gedit /lib/udev/rules.d/61-option-modem-modeswitch.rules
[23:39] <DasEi> CyL: at the end of the file , insert : ATTRS{idVendor}=="12d1", ATTRS{idProduct}=="1003", RUN+="modem-modeswitch -v 0x%s{idVendor} -p 0x%s{idProduct} -t option-zerocd"
[23:40] <foul_owl> I'm trying to determine why i'm getting 100 k/s transfer speeds over my network lol
[23:40] <cliff__> Quick Question: How should I set up GRUB if installing Ubuntu on a portable HD? I did it once on mine but forgot the exact steps to tell my friend...
[23:40] <LinuxPhreak> I'm having trouble adding the VirtualBox no9n-free repo to my sources.list
[23:40] <DasEi> CyL: save file, close geedit, all open apps, then sudo reboot, should be there afterwards
[23:40] <LinuxPhreak> I do sudo apt-get update and it doesn't fetch them
[23:41] <DasEi> gksudo gedit /lib/udev/rules.d/61-option-modem-modeswitch.rules,  CyL, if not seen above
[23:41] <cliff__> How should I set up GRUB if installing Ubuntu on a portable HD? I did it once on mine but forgot the exact steps to tell my friend...
[23:41] <DasEi> LinuxPhreak: distro / country ?
[23:42] <LinuxPhreak> 10.04.1Distro 10.04.1 Country US
[23:42] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> fliegenderfrosch, yes you can sha2256sum anything without the "-c" option, you0ll have to manually compare outputs though
[23:42] <DasEi> LinuxPhreak: sec, coming
[23:42] <khalidmian> i request help with ubuntu installation which i have tried myriad of time but failed
[23:42] <rypervenche> Hey all, does anyone use a netbook with Linux on it?
[23:42] <sjm> cliff__, follow the steps to restore grub from the livecd, but point it at your portable drive.
[23:43] <sjm> rypervenche, I am right now.
[23:43] <LinuxPhreak> rypervenche: what you need to know about netbook?
[23:43] <wizzle> hi all. i have printer canon iP1880 and i using lucid, the question is how to set up this printer. i have no problem before with hp printer. but for this time, something like CUSP error when i try to do test print. so anyone help me?
[23:44] <Poul|Raider> Doh, i start hating port forwarding, cant get it working, tryed some iptables generator for making the script, but it still dont work
[23:44] <CyL> DasEi: I'll be back in a sec...
[23:44] <LinuxPhreak> DasEi: what you mean sec, coming
[23:44] <fliegenderfrosch> asdfasdfasdfasdf: yeah, i just didn’t know you could use it against the device and get the iso checksum
[23:44] <DasEi> LinuxPhreak: repo :http://pastebin.com/dCaziNCB
 How do I tell my friend to point it at his Portable HD? Its not my HD im installing, its a new ubuntu installation on his HD.
[23:45] <khalidmian> pls help
[23:45] <Datz> hi, I removed some old kernel version with the package manager, but they are still showing up on the grub boot menu. How can I get rid of them
[23:45] <DasEi> LinuxPhreak:key : http://pastebin.com/gqV8ReXm
 He is currently in the installer, but I dont remember what the exact steps are...
[23:45] <DasEi> LinuxPhreak:sudo apt-get update, there you go (VirtualBox, mind capitals)
[23:45] <sjm> cliff__, hold on, I'm on the phone...
[23:46] <Datz> Usually I remove them through aptitude, but this time I used the package manager; a mistake apparently.
[23:46] <DasEi> Datz: sudo update-grub
[23:46] <cyclist_2> renedox: I had no luck over at #gnome; I will head for bed now, and resume this saga tomorrow; thank you, all the same
[23:46] <diogo_79> hi
[23:46] <Datz> ah cools :) thanks DasEi
[23:46] <DasEi> Datz: try if it works, else more ways
[23:47] <DasEi> Question: Is there a way to make gedit automatically scrolling to the bottom if I open a large file / if the file is changing ti also auto reloads ?
[23:47] <Datz> DasEi: /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process:
[23:47] <diogo_79> i have a laptop with geforce fx 5200 graphic card when i wake from a suspend the screen stays with a white background and several vertical color lines what can i do to resolve this?
[23:48] <DasEi> Datz: synaptic or other manager running ?
[23:48] <rypervenche> LinuxPhreak: Well, I just got an EeePC 1201PN and it has Windows 7 on it. I am going to install Ubuntu 10.04 on it but I would like to make Windows 7 installation CDs from the netbook, to have in case I ever need them.
[23:48] <DasEi> apt..
[23:48] <Datz> DasEi: ah.. yea.. forgot, getting updates now
[23:48] <CyL> DasEi: Well, ppoeconf still doesn't list the modem interface
[23:48] <rypervenche> LinuxPhreak: But I'm not quite sure how to do it. I don't know if you would know anything abou that seeing as it's not really Linux-related.
[23:48] <DasEi> CyL: network-manager ?
[23:48] <brandon420> what what in the butt butt
[23:49] <smokie> hey guys, im trying to use HE ipv6 tunnel broker on my ubuntu but im having trouble with it, anyone know how to check if "protocl41" is working on it?
[23:49] <DasEi> rypervenche: try in #windows
[23:49] <CyL> DasEi: I've ripped it off, using wicd... I don't like networkmanager trying to connect to every network it sees
[23:49] <Datz> DasEi: why does it keep asking me in update "Could not find /boot/grub/menu.lst file. Would you like /boot/grub/menu.lst generated for you?"  I'm using grub2"
[23:49] <Gargoyle> OK, different question. Anyone know why I had to reboot my entire server to get apache to pickup the umask setting in envvars?
[23:49] <rypervenche> Ok DasEi , thanks.
[23:49] <LinuxPhreak> rypervenche: I would clone Windows 7 making ISO images then upload the ISO images to an FTP server download ISO image on another computer with CD Burner
[23:50] <DasEi> Datz: strange fruit, lucid I assume: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:50] <DasEi> Datz: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[23:51] <Datz> DasEi: ok, thanks I'll run that when it's done
[23:51] <DasEi> CyL: found in wicd ?
[23:51] <Datz> DasEi: if you have time later, I have another problem with eth0 not being able to be loaded in my VM :P
[23:52] <fluvvell> Weird problem, I asked lucid to initialise my new ipod touch 2G.  Never been on itunes with it, but didn't work.  Installed virtualbox, windows, itunes, connected it up and itunes says its corrupt and cant fix it. :-(
[23:52] <rypervenche> LinuxPhreak: But the thing is I don't see any option anywhere to make the installation disc(s).
[23:52] <fluvvell> how do I undo the linux "initialise"
[23:53] <jlebar> Is installing Jaunty the easiest way for me to get gcc 4.3.3?  Karmic is at 4.3.4 now.
[23:53] <carandraug> hi! Is there anyway to check if a command I'm running is an alias for something (other than looking through .bash_rc and /etc/bashrc)?
[23:53] <maco> carandraug: which command
[23:53] <rypervenche> LinuxPhreak: Oh, I think I understand. I basically have to clone my HDD then?
[23:53] <carandraug> maco, ls
[23:53] <LinuxPhreak> reypervenche: Try third party cloning tool. I haven't used Windows in years. And with my netbooks I usually could give a damn about saving Winblows
[23:53] <rypervenche> LinuxPhreak: I can't just get a Windows 7 CD, I have to clone the 17GB that are on there by default?
[23:53] <maco> carandraug: no i was answering your question
[23:53] <maco> carandraug: use the which command
[23:53] <carandraug> maco, hahahaha! Thanks
[23:54] <maco> carandraug: no output means its an alias
[23:54] <sjm> cliff__, try this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[23:54] <carandraug> maco, it was an alias. As I expected but was not sure. Thank you
[23:54] <DasEi> Datz: try to give it in the vm-settings another nic type, intel 1000pro/mt is working for a giga, or try otheres, vb is in #virtualbox, this is ubuntu here
[23:57] <Datz> DasEi: thanks, I'll be back to try that in a bit, going to restart after running update and those commands
[23:57] <DasEi> Datz: only needed if a new kernel was installed
[23:57] <Galaxor> Hi.  Nickserv won't respond to my /msgs.  Am I visible and audible?
[23:58] <DasEi> Datz: ( which youu can avoid by ksplice)
[23:58] <LinuxPhreak> DasEi: The Virtual Box installed great thanx a bunch
[23:58] <DasEi> Galaxor: yup
[23:58] <CyL> DasEi: I'm not sure if wicd can list the network interfaces, but sudo lshw -class network doesn't show it up
[23:58] <DasEi> LinuxPhreak: virtual them all, have fun
[23:58] <Galaxor> DasEi: Thanks.
[23:59] <rypervenche> Another reason I hate Windows....no one answers in ##windows.
[23:59] <rypervenche> Everyone answers here.
[23:59] <DasEi> CyL: I found a wikilink just for your type, but it's in german, no counterpart found in the english wiki, want to try it ?
[23:59] <rypervenche> Thanks for that guys, <3 Linux.