[00:00] its a sign to remove my msn account.. [00:04] verterok, do you know why maverick has a dozen accounts for this 1 machine then ? [00:05] which, I removed while booted in lucids client..I wanted to stop using it in maverick..I intend to remove this mav install. [00:36] greetings Everyone, problems signing in to ubuntu onem keeps requesting passwords, honk [00:38] not the same trouble I`m having, I hope. [00:39] i have just signed up [00:39] hi duffydack [00:40] brush01uk, what is requesting password [00:40] my password [00:41] what program. [00:42] sorry ,just after siging up for the first time [00:42] ubuntu one [00:42] is it seahorse asking for you password to unlock the keyring? [00:44] don-t know about seahorsem did not see it [00:45] ook, how are you signing in [00:49] ok, i will try & explain, went to ubuntuone to sign /reg on ubuntuone ,username, t,brush01uk, then password,all ok at this stage, a window comes up with my [00:49] username [00:49] & keeps requsting mypassword [00:51] sounds like seahorse. [00:51] okthankyou [00:52] applications>accessories> passwords and encryption keys [00:53] the password has to have uppercas letter & also a numberas well :-) [00:54] yes. [00:54] ok,will read up on my applications>accessories> passwords and encryption keys [00:55] Thankyou for your time & help [00:55] when it asks for password, can you alt-prnt scrn and post it [00:55] need to make sure if its seahorse or not [00:56] ok will doo, where to post ? [00:56] imgur.com [00:56] ok [00:57] I forget what seahorse passwords prompts look like ::) [01:16] duffydack, great news just manage to up load a file to ubuntuone,Thankyou for your time & help [01:16] great.. [01:16] I was no help at all..also great [01:17] ok,just went back, & found i was logged in so i try uploading a file, work great [01:18] You were Very Helpful [01:19] it made me think with my thick brain [01:20] not it, it was you [01:20] too meny drugs here [01:20] so, has anyone tried syncing their ~/.Private/ with u1? [01:20] how are you uploading files, through web interface or nautilus/ [01:21] i will check [01:21] web [01:23] duffydack,web interface [01:23] well, that way always works. [01:24] great news, more to read up on :-) [01:25] whatever you set as sync in nautilus (file manager) works too [01:28] ok, thankyou [01:29] are you in the uk? [01:29] sadly. [01:29] ok, im in the midlands [01:30] i ow you a drink [01:30] I have one, but thanks anyway. [01:31] ok, you can always e mail me at gmail [01:33] as long as your problem is fixed, i`m good, for now [01:35] take care, Thankyou, barry [01:36] chill [01:40] verterok: sorry, missed your question...yes, the login works with chromium...you have to have chromium set as the default but it should work if it's set there [01:44] chromiums are set to defaults here... [01:59] Am I reading the wiki right in that file sync is known to be broken on maverick? [02:37] honk [11:25] morning all [12:30] sigh... still u1 connecting woes [12:30] hey duffydack [12:31] duffydack: no good news yet? [12:31] I have removed everything related to u1 on both this and my other laptop. === teknico is now known as teknico_away [12:32] the packages, the configs in my home, the computers associated and even the files in the shared folders... [12:32] duffydack: did you also removed .cache/ubuntuone? [12:32] I reinstalled the packages, and run the client. Didnt get taken to account page and cant add my computer again [12:32] ~/.cache/ubuntuone [12:32] yes [12:33] find ~ -iname "*ubuntuone*" ?) [12:33] :) [12:33] did you remove your U1 token from seahorse? [12:33] yup [12:33] what system are you running? [12:33] lucid. I booted into maverick lastnight and it was still working there. [12:34] do you have your logs on debug mode? [12:34] will in a second [12:34] (for lucid may be a bit different, let me check) [12:35] i added [logging] [12:35] level = DEBUG [12:35] to syncdaemon.conf [12:35] u1sdtool -q [12:38] duffydack: ok, that may work [12:38] duffydack: first of all, check that you have no u1 processes running: ps aux | grep ubuntuone [12:38] duffydack: what do you get? [12:39] ubuntuone-login, i killed it [12:39] perfect [12:40] so, now, u1sdtool -c and wait [12:40] k [12:40] duffydack: do you a browser opened in any virtual desktop? [12:40] yes [12:41] ok [12:42] duffydack: nothing happens? :-/ [12:43] not run the client yet lol [12:43] nessita> so, now, u1sdtool -c and wait (I took that too literary [12:44] duffydack: yes [12:44] do you have a tail -F against the log file? if not you can do it now (without stopping the client) [12:45] client is disconnected [12:45] will press connect. [12:46] nothing.. [12:46] please paste the whole content of the log file. Also, is there any syncdaemon-exception.log file? [12:47] http://pastebin.com/gaNdSSs8 [12:47] oauth-login.log syncdaemon.log syncdaemon.log.2010-09-14_12-40-24 u1-prefs.log [12:47] thats all there is in log folder [12:49] duffydack: I know what's wrong (though I don't know why is happening). syncdaemon thinks you have no network [12:49] duffydack, are you using network manager to control your network? [12:49] see: 2010-09-14 12:40:24,625 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.EQ - DEBUG - push_event: SYS_STATE_CHANGED, args:(), kw:{'state': READY (error=False connected=False online=False) Queue: IDLE Connection: Not User Not Network} [12:51] well, I`m lost. [12:54] duffydack: can you answer rye? [12:54] (08:49:23 AM) rye: duffydack, are you using network manager to control your network? [12:54] duffydack: syncdaemon relies on the information that networkmanager provides [12:55] no, im using interfaces file... have done for months with no issues. [12:56] duffydack: in lucid, using u1-client? [12:56] yup [12:56] rye: is there any workaround for not using NM? [12:57] duffydack, if you shut down networkmanager - ubuntuone will connect [12:58] duffydack, are you using wired interface? [12:58] rye, I dont have it running.. havent for months. [12:58] duffydack, hmmm [12:58] wireless. [12:59] I dont wanna wait 10+ seconds for NM to wake up and start connecting :) when I can have interfaces bring it up before i`m even logged in [12:59] * rye logs into lucid vm [13:00] guess I could set it back up again to use NM (ugh, I dont like NM) [13:01] duffydack, with system-level connection that's no longer an issue, i've been a fan of plain /etc/network/interfaces file for long long time and resisted nm as much as I could, until they implemented system-level connections will go up earlier than I log in so that I do not wait for that anymore, the only thing is that for some servers (e.g. httpd) the interfaces may not be set up at that time since it all happens async [13:01] duffydack, i wonder why ubuntuone thinks nm replies with 'nope, no networks here' [13:01] duffydack: what ps aux | grep -i network [13:01] says [13:01] (whole output) [13:01] root 1079 0.0 0.1 84788 4932 ? Ss 12:24 0:00 NetworkManager [13:02] duffydack, you are running NM! :) [13:02] ajá! [13:02] I have tried to kill the process in the past, but it never does wanna die... [13:02] its not running on my desktop tho [13:02] no applet to play with [13:02] you can remove the applet and have the process running [13:03] duffydack: try sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager stop [13:03] ok, stopped [13:03] duffydack: and then the ps aux | grep -i network again [13:03] empty [13:04] ok, now, u1sdtool -q [13:04] a seconds after, u1sdtool -c [13:04] tail the log? [13:04] yes [13:04] duffydack: look for "SYS_STATE_CHANGED" and show me the line [13:05] duffydack, Greetings,hope all well. I let you carry on the great work you do for us all,take care,cul [13:06] http://paste.ubuntu.com/493607/ [13:08] duffydack: and the log keep growing, right? [13:08] not a lot [13:09] duffydack: can you try u1sdtool -c again, without stopping it? [13:09] and show me the output [13:09] 2010-09-14 13:05:00,385 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.StateManager - DEBUG - ConnectionManager returned None [13:09] 2010-09-14 13:07:00,375 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Main - NOTE - ---- MARK (state: ; queues: metadata: 0; content: 0; hash: 0, fsm-cache: hit=4 miss=1) ---- [13:09] 2010-09-14 13:07:32,513 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.DBus - DEBUG - get_metadata: dbus.String(u'/home/dean/Ubuntu One') [13:09] 2010-09-14 13:09:00,375 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Main - NOTE - ---- MARK (state: ; queues: metadata: 0; content: 0; hash: 0, fsm-cache: hit=5 miss=1) ---- [13:09] the last few lines. [13:09] 2mins between [13:09] duffydack: check all your browsers [13:09] only one.. running [13:09] duffydack: you should have a web page somewhere [13:09] to authentucate [13:09] nope. [13:10] i`ll try with firefox.. rule out any chromiums problem [13:10] I wonder if ubuntuone-login depends on NM, which I think it does [13:10] rye: ^ [13:10] duffydack: I can confirm everuthing is ok with syncdaemon, you can see [13:10] 2010-09-14 13:05:00,381 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.DBus - DEBUG - connect requested [13:11] that means that syncdaemon asked another process (ubuntuone-client) to provide credentials for you [13:11] duffydack: do you have any content in the oauth log? (same directory) [13:12] nessita, except dbus.exceptions.DBusException: [13:12] logger.warn("Unable to connect to NetworkManager. Trying anyway.") [13:12] self.acquire_access_token(description, store) [13:12] 2010-09-14 12:25:05,739:739.859104156 ubuntuone-login Starting Ubuntu One login manager version 1.2.2 [13:12] 2010-09-14 12:40:24,799:799.460887909 ubuntuone-login Starting Ubuntu One login manager version 1.2.2 [13:12] thats it. [13:12] nessita, so ubuntuone-login is happy [13:13] not really [13:13] if it relies on NM, why was it working until lastnight [13:13] duffydack, could you please patch the sources of /usr/share/pyshared/ubuntuone/oauthdesktop/logger.py - change LOG_LEVEL = logging.DEBUG [13:13] duffydack: because before you remove your token, ubuntuone-login wasn't needed [13:14] was there a NM update?... hm [13:14] ?? [13:14] I didnt remove any tokens before it broke [13:14] duffydack: you mentioned yesterday (I may missunderstood) that you had tons of machines and you removed them from the web UI [13:15] all was fine, sync worked fine, it was only when I tried to publish a file and got no url back for it, I checked the client, and here we are. [13:15] I kept my machine and the other machine in there. [13:16] just the dozen or so bits of crud maverick put there [13:16] since then I have wiped everything in a last attempt at fixing it... [13:17] duffydack: the problem is with the credentials. Let me check some coding [13:18] i`ll just do that logger.py thing..hangon [13:19] ok, changed to debug. now what [13:20] duffydack: did you kill ubuntuone-login? if not, please do so [13:21] k [13:22] duffydack: then, u1sdtool -c [13:22] sorry! [13:23] u1sdtool -q [13:23] be sure no ubuntuone process is running [13:23] weeee. browser [13:23] yes? [13:23] ok then [13:24] added computer, and looking ok [13:26] its populating my empty shared folders... [13:26] very nice [13:26] duffydack: can you share with me the log for oauth, anyways? [13:26] I"d like to see what was going on [13:26] I dont get it..... nothing changed [13:27] well yeah, the killing of ubuntuone-login may had helped [13:27] http://pastebin.com/Qg3eafYw [13:27] I did that a few times. [13:27] lastnight. [13:27] Ive just been doing all what I did lastnight :) [13:28] duffydack: including killing.stopping network manager? [13:28] ah, that was new [13:28] that's crucial, because if it's running, syncdaemon an login believe what NM says [13:28] so if NM is running and say "not network", syncdaemon and login do nothing [13:28] its played happy with it for months.. I dont get it. [13:29] duffydack: did you install updates? maybe network manager got some update that makes it run anyways, or something [13:30] network manager has always run.. [13:30] I just never had the applet loaded as Im using interfaces file [13:31] well, the applet doesnt show when you have the file anyways. [13:31] duffydack: look, this is from your log from yesterday (http://pastebin.com/RWvYH4GZ): [13:31] lsat log line says: [13:31] 2010-09-13 21:48:29,794 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.EQ - DEBUG - push_event: SYS_STATE_CHANGED, args:(), kw:{'state': READY (error=False connected=False online=False) Queue: IDLE Connection: With User Not Network} [13:31] With User == user requested connect and there are valid tokens [13:32] Not Network == no network, do nothing until NM says we are networkly-connected [13:32] duffydack: so, yesterday, syncdaemon didn't connect becauase he thought he didn't have network [13:32] duffydack: today, we managed to cheat and make it believe there was network, but it had no credentials for you [13:34] well, its working now (??? odd it stopped working) thanks! [13:34] gonna reboot and see if it still plays nice. [13:34] in fact..i`ll set it up on my other laptop as well [13:36] duffydack: good luck [13:36] lets see what happens.. the other laptop is same as this one, no NM applet, maybe the process is running but it has always..without issue [13:41] same again, disconnected with no browser activity. so I have to stop network-manager..and try again [13:43] duffydack: see the logs, what do you have in them? WIth User Not Network? [13:44] not user not network [13:45] I ran u1sdtool -q and stopped network-manager, then u1sdtool -c [13:46] and now? [13:46] I did that before [13:46] and it gave me not user not network [13:46] look in the log for wither "SYS_USER_CONNECT" or "connect request" (case sensitive) [13:47] did you kill ubuntuone-login as well? [13:47] a shooot [13:47] :0 [13:47] forgot [13:48] ok here we go.... [13:50] sync working [13:50] brb [13:54] my other laptop is a lot slower at populating the folders.. its just made the folder structures but taking its time to put any files in there.. [13:54] ok, I rebooted this pc and client says disconnected. I dont normally have to tell it to.. [13:55] edit: ok other laptop is fine. [13:56] So.. this mean I have to be using network-manager properly from now on ? [13:57] duffydack: or uninstall it completely === teknico_away is now known as teknico [13:58] hmm, ok i`ll try [14:07] ok removing network-manager packages did the trick. [14:07] some update must have changed the need for it, because it worked fine before [14:20] nessita, it worked with the same setup in maverick.. network manager installed but not used. used interfaces file, but it worked. odd [14:21] duffydack: well, in maverick the login manager is a whole new app [14:22] Ive noticed. [14:55] beuno: enjoyed the blog post. [14:57] duanedesign, thanks :) [14:59] beuno: /12 [14:59] oops [15:46] facundobatista, hi, is there something changed in share creating/deleting? I disabled sharing of a folder via the web but syncdaemon have not noticed it even after a restart [15:47] rye: do you have logs? [15:47] verterok, i do but I don't know what to search for, after i disabled the share on the server there was nothing printed to the logs [15:48] rye: ok, please pastebin/upload both logs, before and after the restart [15:51] verterok, before restart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/493681/ [15:51] verterok, after restart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/493682/ [15:51] thanks [15:51] * verterok diggs [15:51] verterok, list of shared folders - http://paste.ubuntu.com/493684/ [15:52] verterok, Documents is the one which was removed [15:52] rye: I see '500' error in http://paste.ubuntu.com/493682/ [15:52] rye: nm, wrong pastebin :) [15:52] * verterok is still sleepy [15:54] * verterok gets another coffee [15:55] verterok, hm... it looks like syncdaemon was in READY state when i removed the share from the server; but when i logged in it still thinks that the folder is shared, but there is only one ShareVolume object [15:56] rye: is this using trunk? [15:57] verterok, that's nightlies - 1.4.0+r694~maverick1 [15:57] rye: ah, it's a "Shared" folder, not a "share" [15:57] rye: you shared a UDF, ~/Documents [15:57] verterok, yes [15:58] rye: from the shared_to user, you rejected/deleted the share [15:58] rye: but the shared_from user syncdaemon still see the folder as "shared" [15:58] rye: is that the case? [15:59] verterok, i went to the web interface, went to ~/Documents UDF and stopped sharing this folder; Then I returned to the terminal, ran u1sdtool --list-shared and saw that the share is still there (along with another one in another UDF which no longer exist at all, btw - /home/rtg/tmp/search_files/folder [16:00] rye: ok, it's a shared folder, not a share to you. [16:00] rye: try running: u1sdtool --refresh-shares [16:00] rye: I think I know what's the problem. It's a regression introduced with the "generations" change [16:01] verterok, booring... it worked perfectly but did not send ShareDeleted signal :-) [16:02] rye: you will not get a ShareDeleted signal [16:02] rye: because isn't a "share" it's a "shared" dir [16:02] rye: yes, I know the naming sucks :( [16:02] brrr [16:02] rye: do you think it should go into maverick? it's a high priority bug? [16:03] rye: if so, I can start working on it ASAP [16:03] we are >< close to FF [16:03] verterok, not really high priority i think since it just misleads the client and currently it will affect emblems only, u1sdtool --refresh-shares is a quick and straightforward workaround which does what it means [16:04] rye: ok, I'll try to fix it before FF, as the fix is quite simple (just call the VolumeManager.refresh_shares method after server rescan is done) [16:05] rye: would you mind to file a bug about this? :) [16:06] verterok, wow, thanks. I will file a bug, actually i was reviewing rodrigo_'s branch with emblem support for folders shared to other users... Is there any signal sent when shared volume is deleted? [16:07] rye: nope [16:07] verterok, hmmm [16:07] verterok, yes, seeing something maybe related, I share a folder from nautilus, the mail is sent, but --list-shared doesn't show the folder [16:08] rodrigo_: because isn't using the protocol to share the folder [16:08] rodrigo_: until someone clicks on the link, syncdaemon and the api server knows nothing about the share [16:08] verterok, hmm, what does that mean? [16:08] rodrigo_: ^ :) [16:08] ah [16:09] rodrigo_: it's a mismatch in the "shares" feature since the early days :( [16:09] verterok, but it used to show it before, right? [16:09] rodrigo_: don't think so [16:09] verterok, remember the bug I filed about path="" [16:09] rodrigo_: we you create a share via web/nautilus it's a share offer, not a "share" (this is from the fs storage client and server POV) [16:09] ah [16:10] rodrigo_: afte a registered user click on the link, it's a share [16:10] verterok, ok [16:10] verterok, ok, after user clicks a link - it's a share, but when the owner disables the share from the web ui then syncdaemon does not know about this, right? [16:11] rye: we could add a signal, but don't think we could do it at this point in the cycle [16:11] rye: huh? [16:11] verterok, no, i mean share_deleted signal in libsyncdaemon is not really working [16:11] rye: "disables"? [16:11] verterok, i mean cancels, stops sharing, whatever it is called :) [16:11] rye: share_deleted is for the shared_to user, e.g: when I share a folder with you. [16:12] rye: you accept the share, then I cancel/disable the share [16:12] rye: your syncdaemon will get a ShareDeleted notification [16:17] verterok, but your syncdaemon will not notice this right away, right? When you share a folder to me and I accept the share then you will receive ShareCreated signal, is that correct? [16:17] rye: no :) [16:18] rye: there are no signals from origin of the share, syncdaemon wil get a notification from the server: ShareAnswer [16:18] rye: but there is no propagation of that via DBus [16:18] rye: so, my syncdaemon will be notified that you accepted the share, but isn't sending any dbus signals [16:19] hmm mm === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:13] verterok, bug #638187 :) [17:13] Launchpad bug 638187 in ubuntuone-client "SD does not refresh shares resulting in stale data shown in u1sdtool --list-shared (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/638187 [17:13] rye: thanks! [17:52] * rye wonders whether metadata storage would have been better implementented using user extended file attributes === teknico_ is now known as teknico [18:06] duanedesign, got to go, but will you please let me know what you think about this: http://www.themacaque.com/?p=684 [18:06] duanedesign, are instructions clear etc.. will be very appreciated [18:12] mandel: sure thing [18:49] do you use gmail guys, i would like to receive an invite?, wanna send me one? [19:28] an invite to gmail? Looks like that person is a year late... [19:42] rye: apparently it's sill required in few countries [19:44] wow this was not as easy as i hoped [19:44] i was trying to find a ubuntu beginners area [19:44] btw i am new to irc [19:44] and ubuntu ;) [19:45] any sugguestions [19:45] trueheartmike: this channel is about UbuntuOne, the online service [19:45] trueheartmike, #ubuntu [19:45] ahhh ok ty [19:46] ok well while i am here .. i can ask the ubuntu onlijne then [19:46] any idea when they will get the contacts synch working ? [19:47] i hav my ubuntu one connected [19:48] and want to get my bookmarks and email contacts to synch but it said it was not working now [19:48] according to i htink the status [19:48] trueheartmike, right, we are having problems owith one of our servers [19:48] so that is currently not working [19:48] will fix itself soon [19:48] ahahh ok [19:49] thank you for your time... I was wondering is there by chance a aproximate time or guess when it may be fixed ? [19:49] trueheartmike, we hope, within the next days [19:50] oooo sweet that is great thank yo uagain for you time [19:50] np [20:34] Can someone help me fix an old account I stopped using a long time ago and want to use again.. its not connecting, and I`m in maverick. [20:43] duffydack, hi, are you using NetworkManager on this machine? [20:48] yeah.. not even setup wifi yet.. [20:50] Im thinking about ditching my msn/hotmail account completely, and I have an old u1 account I stopped using to fix issues I was having at the time, long ago.. its setup with my gmail address and I`d like to maybe start using it again, but its not playing ball. [20:51] duffydack, you don't need new account to change the email - login.ubuntu.com is your friend [20:52] duffydack, of course, if you already have two then sso is not yet capable of removing the accounts [20:53] ah.. i`ll just change it then [20:54] the gmail one is a mess.. this was back in the day U1 first started, and I was having trouble getting it to sync and allsorts of things.. There are 4 files left there on the server according to the webpage, and it thinks they arefolders. === dik is now known as dikdust === ajmitch_ is now known as ajmitch [22:21] duffydack. Greetings hope you & family are well ,plus hope you had a good day? [22:22] hmm, im ok, not sure about family, I dont see any of them. [22:23] ok,understood,take care [22:34] Did I help you with a problem the other day, I forget (no offence ) [22:48] duffydack.Yes ,very helpful,you were brill, Thank you [22:52] oh.. what was it [22:57] duffydack. Sorry i was reading, ref signing in,was requesting passwords, [22:58] Yeah, I remember now [22:58] all todo with my keyring [23:15] just seahorse complaining for a password all the time then [23:27] duffydack, Yes true Seahorse [23:32] setting to no pass fixed it ? [23:33] yes [23:33] not the best advice, but its a dirty fix... [23:33] 100% [23:33] AFAIC, NM and seahorse need work [23:34] Ive seen far too many people complain of the same thing [23:34] off to watch Category5.TV [23:34] well, seahorse in particular [23:35] ok [23:35] yes seahorse was the problem [23:35] cul [23:38] cul? [23:38] oh [23:38] c u later [23:39] why did I know that.. [23:39] * duffydack is down wi` the kids yo