[04:26] <sinman> holstein are you there
[04:27] <holstein> sinman: hey
[04:28] <sinman> i done a slow format last night writing zero's to my hdd took about 4 1/2 hours
[04:29] <holstein> cool
[04:29] <holstein> sounds like a good start :)
[04:29] <holstein> did you test it too?
[04:29] <holstein> while you were there?
[04:29] <sinman> and about 5 minutes ago i saw those files again and said noway. so I check my usb stick and had it show hidden files and I found the hidden trash file on it with those files, so i deleted thoise files from the usb stick and now they aren's in my trash bin
[04:30] <sinman> yes everything check out great
[04:30] <sinman> I let it done the format while i was in be d last night
[04:31] <sinman> this time I only installed ubuntu studio
[04:31] <holstein> AH
[04:31] <holstein> so they were on you USB sticks trash
[04:32] <sinman> if i had know that there was a hidden trash file on my usb stick, it could had save me from all this headache. lol
[04:32] <sinman> yes
[04:33] <sinman> how can i format this usb stick back to fat 32, I need to use it to back up things on my neighbors computer before I reinstall vista on her computer
[04:35] <holstein> sinman: gparted
[04:36] <sinman> k thanxs
[04:36] <sinman> installing it now
[04:37] <holstein> gparted?
[04:37] <holstein> sinman: should be in lucid
[04:37] <holstein> system - administration - gparted
[04:37] <holstein> might not be in studio
[04:37] <sinman> not by defzault had to install it rom synaptic
[04:38] <holstein> now you know :)
[04:38] <holstein> i like to do that full format and test when i have the chance
[04:39] <sinman> k well i'm outta of here, not gonna stay up most of the night like i done for the past week dealing with the trash can. lol
[04:39] <holstein> sinman: :)
[04:39] <holstein> glad you got it sorted out
[04:39] <sinman> have a nice night holstein
[04:39] <sinman> same here. :)
[04:39] <holstein> GN
[04:51] <maheanuu> IaOrana Ia Oe, hello from Raiatea in French Polynesia, I am having some sound probs and need to ask for some assistance if possible
[04:52] <holstein> sure
[04:52] <holstein> welcome maheanuu
[04:53] <maheanuu> I am running US 10.04 on a Toshiba Laptop 64 bit with a 64 bit US installed and my sound volume is very low, and HI Mike
[04:54] <maheanuu> I removed and reinstalled Pulse audio and it didn't make any change
[04:55] <holstein> maheanuu: did you look in aslamixer ?
[04:55] <holstein> run
[04:56] <holstein> alsamixer
[04:56] <holstein> in a terminal
[04:56] <holstein> then hit F5
[04:56] <maheanuu> I did before I dumped it and everything was at 100 percent
[04:56] <holstein> hmmm
[04:56] <maheanuu> Ok
[04:56] <holstein> whats the model?
[04:57] <holstein> toshiba satellite something?
[04:57] <holstein> maheanuu: you might want to look at
[04:57] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046137
[04:57] <holstein> that might be helpful
[04:57] <holstein> its a script to update alsa
[04:58] <holstein> maheanuu: is this the first time youve had linux on this notebook?
[04:59] <maheanuu> No I have run 9.10 and Ubuntu 10.04 and sound was fine before
[04:59] <holstein> hmmm
[05:00] <holstein> gotta be a config thing then
[05:00] <maheanuu> I am running a Toshiba Satellite A355D-S6930
[05:00] <holstein> theres not much difference in ubuntu 10.04 and ubuntustudio 10.04
[05:00] <holstein> what kernel?
[05:01] <holstein> uname -a
[05:01] <maheanuu> Yes, and with my handicap (stupid) I come heere for help
[05:01] <holstein> well, in the future
[05:01] <holstein> when you have ubuntu installed
[05:01] <holstein> and running happily
[05:01] <holstein> just add the packages you want to use from the repo
[05:01] <holstein> the ubuntustudio metapackages
[05:01] <holstein> OR just the ones you need
[05:02] <holstein> :)
[05:02] <holstein> maheanuu: no worries :)
[05:02] <holstein> we're here to help
[05:02] <maheanuu> Ok.........   I did that when I changed to 10.04 but wasn't sure about Studio
[05:02] <holstein> yeah
[05:03] <holstein> its *should* be the same under the hood
[05:03] <holstein> pretty much
[05:03] <holstein> you might have the -lowlatency kernel
[05:03] <holstein> and that might not like your soundcard for some reason
[05:03] <holstein> but i bet its a setting we're just not thinking of
[05:03] <holstein> hmmm
[05:04] <holstein> seems like if something was wrong with your sound card support
[05:04] <maheanuu> kernel is 2.6.32-25-preempt
[05:04] <holstein> it just wouldnt work
[05:04] <holstein> maheanuu: BUT
[05:04] <holstein> thats a difference right there
[05:05] <holstein> that might be worth exploring
[05:05] <holstein> you would have had a -generic kernel
[05:05] <maheanuu> I am not understanding
[05:05] <holstein> in vanilla ubuntu
[05:05] <holstein> maheanuu: im just trying to find what is different
[05:05] <holstein> between your perfectly find 10.04
[05:05] <holstein> and this ubuntustudio 10.04
[05:05] <holstein> and the kernel is one thing
[05:06] <maheanuu> Ok, and this kernel is only meant for US and not the LTS?
[05:06] <holstein> well, you can use it where ever you want to
[05:07] <holstein> BUT
[05:07] <maheanuu> I changed this over as there are some of the islanders who are wanting to get into the recording aspect here on Raiatea and they looked at what US had and slobbered all over the place
[05:07] <holstein> if you just install the vanilla 10.04 LTS
[05:07] <holstein> you get a -generic kernel
[05:07] <holstein> not a -preemt
[05:07] <holstein> or -RT
[05:07] <holstein> maheanuu: yeah, its nice :)
[05:08] <holstein> maheanuu: in ubuntustudio
[05:08] <holstein> we mostly use JACK
[05:08] <holstein> as the sound server
[05:08] <maheanuu> Ok, so can I do a "degrade"?  And will I loose everything
[05:08] <holstein> maheanuu: how did you get it?
[05:08] <maheanuu> the os?
[05:08] <holstein> yup
[05:08] <holstein> ubuntustudio
[05:09] <holstein> this install with the funky sound
[05:09] <maheanuu> From a 2 day download
[05:09] <holstein> lol
[05:09] <holstein> well, i would try a few trouble shooting step
[05:09] <holstein> i would try the kernel for one thing
[05:09] <holstein> install
[05:09] <holstein> sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[05:10] <holstein> then edit grub so you can choose that kernel when you boot
[05:10] <holstein> i would
[05:10] <maheanuu> We just got a good upgrade I have a 2 meg download speed now with on limit, before I wasted 2 months of downloads as I kept getting dropped and about a week in I was cut off as I had reached my 11.5 gig limit
[05:10] <holstein> sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[05:10] <holstein> :/
[05:11] <holstein> maheanuu: i really think its a setting somewhere
[05:11] <holstein> if it was broken, it wouldnt work
[05:11] <holstein> the sound
[05:11] <holstein> and its really all the same software
[05:11] <maheanuu> can I do this and not loose anything on the machine?
[05:11] <holstein> maheanuu: ??
[05:11] <holstein> those step?
[05:11] <maheanuu> or should I do a back up first
[05:11] <holstein> yeah
[05:11] <holstein> maheanuu: well, you should always backup
[05:12] <holstein> maheanuu: if i were you
[05:12] <holstein> i would sleep on it
[05:12] <maheanuu> I have always done that and that is why I was asking
[05:12] <holstein> and double check all the settings again
[05:12] <holstein> in the light of a new day :)
[05:13] <holstein> maheanuu: you can do that though
[05:13] <holstein> sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[05:13] <holstein> and look there
[05:13] <holstein> thats just an extra volume control
[05:14] <maheanuu> I study and learn then try and study and learn some more, like I said earlier I am not a spring chicken...   I am a old and I mean old retired navy chief and am in my early 70;s, but I still can follow instructions
[05:14] <holstein> maheanuu: i have a theory
[05:14] <holstein> maheanuu: run gnome-volume-control
[05:14] <holstein> in a terminal
[05:14] <holstein> and look there
[05:14] <maheanuu> hang on will do the gnome thingey now
[05:15] <holstein> maheanuu: yeah, i just hate to tell you to do a bunch of steps
[05:15] <holstein> when i think its something easy that i cant think of :/
[05:16] <maheanuu> You are not inconveniencing me at all....
[05:16] <maheanuu> for the run command, what is it in linux?
[05:16] <holstein> you can hit
[05:16] <holstein> alt-F2
[05:17] <holstein> and run gnome-volume-control
[05:18] <maheanuu> Ok and i get hung on a waiting for sound system note
[05:18] <holstein> yeah
[05:19] <holstein> im not sure about the pulse uninstall nad reinstall
[05:19] <holstein> and*
[05:19] <holstein> maheanuu: but thats a good clue i say
[05:20] <maheanuu> I already did that earlier, before I came in here....   I have always been taught that the amount of knowledge gained is equal to the cube of the equipment destroyed and I doin my share
[05:20] <holstein> you ran gnome-volume-control ??
[05:20] <maheanuu> I just entered it again and it disappeared
[05:20] <holstein> earlier??
[05:21] <holstein> maheanuu: well, im not sure how you unisntalled and reinstalled pulse
[05:21] <holstein> thats should be looked at
[05:21] <holstein> the steps
[05:21] <holstein> BUT
[05:21] <holstein> im proposing
[05:21] <maheanuu> No I have a note that was hidden that sez waiting for sound system to respond
[05:21] <holstein> that there is no sound icon in ubuntustudio's panel
[05:21] <holstein> and thats where the sound would need to be turned up
[05:22] <holstein> and thats something that is in the normal ubuntu
[05:22] <holstein> and not in ubuntustudio
[05:22] <holstein> maheanuu: did you look at a guide?
[05:22] <maheanuu> ok, and so I should install Jack?
[05:22] <holstein> for the pulse work?
[05:22] <holstein> maheanuu: its installed already
[05:22] <holstein> but i think you got pulse issues now
[05:23] <maheanuu> I had them before, because I was getting the same thing before I did the remove and re install
[05:24] <holstein> the same thing when trying to run gnome-volume-control ??
[05:24] <maheanuu> Should I remove it again?
[05:25] <holstein> maheanuu: im pretty sure you shouldnt have removed it the first time ;)
[05:25] <holstein> maheanuu: did you look at a guide?
[05:25] <holstein> how did you do it?
[05:25] <maheanuu> No I was wandering around and trying to use the icon on the top right for pulse audio and it told me the waiting for the sound system to respond
[05:26] <holstein> maheanuu: have you logged out, or rebooted since the reinstall ?
[06:31] <rebirth> how do you copy one channel to the other channel in audacity?
[06:38] <holstein> hmmm
[06:38] <holstein> i think you just make a new channel
[06:38] <holstein> and select it
[06:39] <holstein> copy and paste
[06:39] <holstein> just drag across it
[06:39]  * holstein hanst used audacity in a while though
[06:40] <holstein> hey
[06:40] <holstein> http://manual.audacityteam.org/index.php?title=Editing_for_Beginners_-_Cut,_Copy_and_Paste
[06:40] <holstein> a guide :)
[10:13] <tishammer> i'm trying to understand how to install linux-rt. i've apt-get installed it, but i see it's basically an empty package.
[12:02] <jussi> tishammer: linux-rt depends on the rt kernel and its components, so it should have pulled everything in
[12:02] <jussi> if you restart, you should have a rt kernel in your grub list
[14:38] <tishammer> jussi: ok
[16:55] <djindy> Hey, I've used Ubuntu Studio before but on this fresh install I did the desktop layout has changed from the standard 2 panel with "Application-Place-System" setup like in regular Ubuntu, how do I change it to the Ubuntu layout?
[16:57] <holstein> hey djindy
[16:57] <djindy> hello
[16:58] <holstein> you dont have to install ubuntustudio
[16:58] <holstein> in the future
[16:58] <holstein> if you want the software
[16:58] <holstein> you can just add that to vanilla ubuntu
[16:58] <holstein> the theming is really where the differece is :)
[16:58] <holstein> djindy: you should check and see that ubuntu-desktop is installed
[16:59] <holstein> then you can go and change the theme
[16:59] <holstein> and add a panel
[16:59] <djindy> Yes, I've done that before many times but decided to try a fresh install on a new system this time.
[17:00] <djindy> And doesn't Ubuntu Studio do better integration with the live-kernel?
[17:00] <holstein> nope
[17:00] <holstein> ubuntustudio = ubuntu
[17:00] <holstein> with a few extra things
[17:00] <holstein> and a few things taken out
[17:00] <holstein> quite a few extra things actually depending on what you choose during installation
[17:02] <djindy> I know, to a degree, I just thought there were some bigger differences. In any case, I like the other aspects of the theme change, just not the menu setup. But changing to ubuntu-desktop should fix that? I know when I've changed FROM that to Ubuntu-Studio before it has kept the menu setup the same, just with different color scheme, login screen, etc.
[17:02] <holstein> djindy: what i just decribed
[17:02] <holstein> that'll get you back to a vanilla desktop
[17:03] <holstein> what do you not like about the menu?
[17:04] <holstein> there is a package
[17:04] <holstein> ubuntustudio-menu - Menu for Ubuntu Studio
[17:04] <holstein> maybe thats all you want to remove
[17:04] <holstein> i cant imaging why though
[17:04] <djindy> I like having Applications, places and system lined up along the top for slightly quicker access to each, and I think its a better way of organizing that way (at least for me). I also like having the lower panel (which, yes, I can easily add) with a desktop changer and more apps to add there (which yes, I can easily add, but wanted to check if all these things could be done at once)
[17:04] <holstein> seems like it just groups the audio tasks
[17:04] <holstein> djindy: AH
[17:04] <holstein> just right click on the panel
[17:05] <holstein> go 'add to panel'
[17:05] <holstein> there is
[17:05] <holstein> main menu
[17:05] <holstein> and \
[17:05] <holstein> menu bar
[17:06] <djindy> ah, I see now. I knew there was an easy way just didn't know what it was. Thank you!
[17:06] <holstein> menu bar is the custom one
[17:06] <holstein> djindy: :)
[17:06] <holstein> no problem
[17:09] <djindy> alright, great, everything looks good now, thanks again.
[17:09] <holstein> anytime :)