[16:59] <KE1HA> charlie-tca:  you around at the moment ?
[17:11] <charlie-tca> yeah
[17:17] <KE1HA> charlie-tca:  is there a fixed number of ISO point releases for LTS versions ?
[17:17] <charlie-tca> 4
[17:18] <KE1HA> cool, and for the non-LTS they dont do point releases correct?
[17:18] <charlie-tca> Although that could change
[17:18] <charlie-tca> correct, no point releases for non-LTS
[17:19] <KE1HA> and for syncing LTS ISO's, if you use the basename say, 10.04, is is ln -s to the latest point release? 
[17:19] <KE1HA> is it*
[17:20] <charlie-tca> don't know
[17:21] <KE1HA> Hmm, need to test that. was just wondering if you sync the base ISO, if it will link to the latest point release.
[17:22] <charlie-tca> I just sync from current, so for me, it doesn't use the point
[17:22] <KE1HA> as looking in the release directory for 10.04, they list both 10.04 and 10.04.1 at least for Ubuntu & Kubuntu
[17:22] <charlie-tca> point only counts if you sync from "release", not from daily
[17:22] <KE1HA> roger that, current it dev, and I've got my scripts workign for dev, was just working on migration from dev to release.
[17:23] <charlie-tca> Why? If you have the latest daily, it is what the release will be
[17:24] <charlie-tca> lucid point releases are tested from http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[17:24] <KE1HA> some folks like to keep a repository for previous release ISO's, so was woking on somethign to zsync them.
[17:25] <charlie-tca> I see
[17:25] <KE1HA> that's a good point though, point release testing is diffrent than release, and current / dev
[17:25] <charlie-tca> None of the images ever have the .1, .2, etc
[17:26] <charlie-tca> the name doesn't change, only a file on the image changes to show it is a .1 image
[17:27] <KE1HA> but if your only syncing current, that's dev, and not release .. I forgot about point release syncs
[17:27] <charlie-tca> You have to download from a different directory, instead of a different file name. Once they hit the mirrors, the mirrors will not all maintain the different versions, some will only keep the latest
[17:27] <charlie-tca> for any release, the last development image before the release is still the released image
[17:27] <KE1HA> yeah, it's a bit complicated when for scripting.
[17:29] <KE1HA> so to test a point release where should your base sync be from, releases?
[17:29] <charlie-tca> I don't know that there is any advantage of zsync vs downloading for final images of anything. If you have an image, there is no need to zsync it, and if you don't have it, zsync won't work anyway.
[17:29] <charlie-tca> lucid point releases are tested from http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[17:29] <KE1HA> well, yes and no, if you dont ahve it, and it's there, it will download it.
[17:30] <charlie-tca> If you are maintaining all the images, and it zsyncs, it will replace the current image you have, won't it?
[17:30] <KE1HA> if it's in the same dir, yes, but if you create dir's for the point it wont.
[17:31] <charlie-tca> okay
[17:31] <KE1HA> it also depends on the ISO name.
[17:31] <charlie-tca> they maintain the same names
[17:31] <KE1HA> like, you could zsync 10.04.iso then, merely move it to 10.04.1 and zsync for a lot less bandwidth usage, but with mv, you'd loose 10.04 base ISO
[17:32] <charlie-tca> yup
[17:32] <charlie-tca> not much point in moving it if you are going to replace it anyway
[17:32] <KE1HA> so to keep both, 10.04.0 merely cp ./10.04.0 to ./10.04.1 and zsync that image.
[17:33] <charlie-tca> yup
[17:33] <KE1HA> I suppose it all depends on how many ISO's one wants to keep on hand :-)
[17:33] <charlie-tca> but you don't start with .0
[17:33] <KE1HA> rr on no .0 it's merely 10.04
[17:33] <charlie-tca> the first release is 10.04, then we start adding points
[17:34] <charlie-tca> Yes, and each one takes a lot of space
[17:34] <charlie-tca> I maintain all the active server, ubuntu, and xubuntu images
[17:34] <charlie-tca> and sometimes, I also add in mythbuntu and studio for testing
[17:34] <KE1HA> this is al a mute point for non-point releases, which was what I was after, figuring out how dev operates, v.s. LTS point release.
[17:35] <KE1HA> charlie-tca:  your gonna  like what Im working on :-)
[17:35] <charlie-tca> I rsync, since my machines are old and slow
[17:36] <KE1HA> it's not ready for prime-time, but can send you a pre-alfa to ahve a look see.
[17:36] <charlie-tca> okay
[17:39] <KE1HA> can I send a file through here, or is it better to e-mail ?
[17:39] <charlie-tca> email
[17:40] <KE1HA> ok
[17:48] <KE1HA> ok, sent it too you. Several of the funcitons areant ready yet, and of cource the docs are finished.
[17:48] <KE1HA> opps docs are not finished.
[17:48] <charlie-tca> I will look at it
[17:49] <KE1HA> its' optimised for a terminal windos size of 130x25 or so.
[17:52] <KE1HA> I just finished the Selection Function: Main >> Configure >> View List .. Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu config screens are working, haven't codded EDubuntu yet. Zync is what Im working on still so it's not codded yet.
[17:55] <KE1HA> charlie-tca:  also on the Config Menu >> Configure Options is borked still, that's why I was asking about point releases.
[17:56] <charlie-tca> Okay
[17:58] <KE1HA> when it's done, all ya gotta do is select what ISO's ya want, and away it goes, or that's the theory any way :-)  You may want to comment on how easy it is to see the menu's, I tried to use High-Contrast coloring.
[17:58] <charlie-tca> um, it will be a few minutes before I run it
[17:59] <KE1HA> no worries.
[19:45] <KE1HA> charlie-tca:  sent you an updated version with some functions disabled and error handling, that way you dont get the trapped error [1] status / shutdowns.
[20:02] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit, umm, gnumeric in its present is unusable in Maverick
[20:03] <charlie-tca> You can not enter relative cell addresses, every time you need to enter data in a new cell, you must point and click that cell with the mouse, pointing a t a cell with data in it erases the entry
[20:06] <charlie-tca> and, it zips the file when saving, instead of saving in gnumeric file format
[20:28] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: Is this going to be fixable? 
[20:32] <mr_pouit> charlie-tca: I don't understand/can't reproduce the first issue
[20:32] <mr_pouit> and afaik, gnumeric file format is gzipped
[20:33] <charlie-tca> but the saved format won't open unless I change name from ???.zip to ???.gnumeric
[20:34] <charlie-tca> great... When I am entering data, I can not use the keyboard at all to move from the cell when the data is entered. I also can not use keyboard to copy/paste data
[20:35] <mr_pouit> mmh, it saves as .gnumeric here :/
[20:36] <mr_pouit> and for the other bug, could you give me a simple test case?
[20:36] <charlie-tca> Maverick? maybe it is something to do with updates aren't quite the same as the new installation?
[20:37] <charlie-tca> If I enter =sum(A1,B1) and copy it, the cell references do not change
[20:39] <mr_pouit> mmh, works here too, if I copy it, it'll set the new one to e.g. sum(B1;C1)
[20:39] <charlie-tca> nice
[20:40] <charlie-tca> Well, when the bug reports come in after release, they will be valid, anyway.
[20:40] <mr_pouit> you should try with a new profile, to see if it's reproducible
[20:40] <charlie-tca> okay
[20:41] <charlie-tca> As soon as I can get this spreadsheet finished. I had to install OO.o to get a usable app