| JanCBorchardt | vish, is there already a bug, blueprint or similar poking stick for Launchpad to not send out mails to group members when the bug they are subscribed to through a project has been marked as invalid for it? (tl;dr hundredpapercuts ;) | 00:23 |
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| JanCBorchardt | vish, darn, it’s always that I _really_ think about it only when I already sent the message. | 00:25 |
| ScottK | JanCBorchardt: Yes. | 02:31 |
| ScottK | #launchpad is a better channel for such a question though. | 02:31 |
| klattimer | hey, I'm having a problem with updates in maverick | 10:03 |
| klattimer | the ubuntu-desktop package wants to remove Xorg | 10:03 |
| lucidfox | o_O | 10:04 |
| klattimer | :/ thinking this is a little weird | 10:04 |
| lucidfox | Could you pastebin the exact output of apt-get? | 10:04 |
| klattimer | well, ubuntu-desktop wants to remove itself too for some reason | 10:04 |
| klattimer | lucidfox sure, I'm just updating everything else and doing some installs | 10:04 |
| klattimer | soon as I've done that I'll provide a paste of the stuff | 10:04 |
| klattimer | lucidfox: nevermind, on the command line the packages are being held back | 10:17 |
| klattimer | I was using synaptic to update while I was doing some installs | 10:17 |
| lucidfox | bug #541756 - OK to close this? | 10:57 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 541756 in liferea (Ubuntu) "liferea needs a monochrome icon (affected: 5, heat: 28)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541756 | 10:57 |
| lucidfox | Monochrome icons are basically a feature of Ubuntu indicators, and Liferea uses the messaging indicator | 10:57 |
| vish | lucidfox: i'd suggest you wait for symbolic icons to land.. app cannot add icons for two different themes | 11:27 |
| vish | lucidfox: afaik, that would be in gnome3 | 11:28 |
| Tiibiidii | hi, sorry if i ask this here, but it seems the ubuntu channel more closely related to unity | 12:06 |
| Tiibiidii | where should i report a unity bug? | 12:06 |
| Tiibiidii | here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity | 12:06 |
| Tiibiidii | or here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity | 12:07 |
| Tiibiidii | the first one is upstream, so it should be better | 12:07 |
| Tiibiidii | but it seems that only with the second one i can automatically upload my system's information with ubuntu-bug | 12:07 |
| Tiibiidii | upstream seems to have sligthly more bugs (so, it seems more used and more relevant) | 12:08 |
| Tiibiidii | downstream seems to have more new bugs... but this may be a symptom that the developers pay more attention to the upstream bug tracker | 12:09 |
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| lucidfox | Tiibiidii> you can link the same bug to both locations | 12:25 |
| rye | hi all, is there anyone with Acer Aspire One with Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller ? unity does not really start now, (unity:2446): ClutterGLX-CRITICAL **: Unable to make the stage window 0x1a0004f the current GLX drawable - Mesa 7.9-devel implementation error: Bad renderbuffer format: 21 - am I the only lucky one now? | 12:25 |
| Tiibiidii | rye, njpatel said that the latest graphics updates in maverick wreak havoc with unity | 12:26 |
| Tiibiidii | (with intel graphics, that is) | 12:26 |
| Tiibiidii | i've also an intel card and i'm refraining to update | 12:26 |
| njpatel | yeah, for me it's with anything gl on intel | 12:26 |
| njpatel | on 945 | 12:26 |
| njpatel | 965, compiz works okay, but clutter fails | 12:27 |
| Tiibiidii | he wrote that... uh, here he is :) ... hopefully friday it'll be fixed (if i remeber correctly) | 12:27 |
| Tiibiidii | lucidfox, you're right, but it's more manual work to do :D, and actually i'm not accustomed to link bug in more projects | 12:29 |
| Tiibiidii | until now i've almost only reported bugs to ubuntu, and tried helping with translation on other projects... but maybe it's time to get a little more experience with these things | 12:30 |
| rye | Tiibiidii, njpatel thanks for the info | 12:34 |
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| klattimer | davidbarth, kenvandine are either of you aware of any memory leaks currently affecting libdbusmenu-glib? | 14:58 |
| klattimer | I think I've found some and want to avoid duplicates where possible | 14:58 |
| kenvandine | klattimer, i am not | 14:59 |
| kenvandine | tedg, ^^ | 14:59 |
| tedg | klattimer, Hmm, okay. I'm not aware of any. | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | tedg, your code never leaks, right? | 15:00 |
| klattimer | tedg: check out the valgrind log on https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-application/+bug/569273 | 15:00 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Of course. By design. I just free memory randomly just in case ;) | 15:00 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 569273 in Application Indicators "memory leak in gnome-power-manager (affected: 58, heat: 305)" [Medium,In progress] | 15:00 |
| klattimer | it really seems it's libdbusmenu-glib | 15:00 |
| tedg | klattimer, Yeah, so ayan has a small GTK program that creates and destroys menus and causes a leak in GTK... | 15:01 |
| tedg | Not that dbsumenu isn't at fault also :) | 15:02 |
| klattimer | tedg: ah, that was my second guess | 15:02 |
| tedg | But, I think that there more than one contributor there. | 15:02 |
| klattimer | yeah, there's lots of small ones in gtk | 15:02 |
| tedg | I think it's caused by the fact that no one creates and destroys menus as rapidly as gpm does with that patch. | 15:02 |
| klattimer | yeah, that's possibly one way to solve it | 15:03 |
| klattimer | the issue is that it updates frequently | 15:03 |
| klattimer | although I've heard some noise from your branches you have a signal for menu clicked now? | 15:03 |
| tedg | I was talking to hughsie a while back and he was saying it depends on the battery firmware how often it updates. | 15:03 |
| tedg | Which probably explains the variation of folks reporting things on the bug. | 15:03 |
| klattimer | yeah, that was a bit of a question up in the air | 15:04 |
| klattimer | so some people's battery goes like crazy updating the menu, others more leisurely but still gpm grows | 15:04 |
| klattimer | :/ | 15:04 |
| klattimer | maybe we can fix the gpm patch by hooking up to your menu clicked signal, and only updating the menu then | 15:05 |
| klattimer | it would lessen the impact of the leak | 15:05 |
| tedg | Or I was thinking just having it update the label instead of rebuilding the whole menu. | 15:05 |
| tedg | It'd save dbus traffic as well. | 15:05 |
| klattimer | that's another option | 15:05 |
| klattimer | I'll look at doing it that way | 15:05 |
| tedg | The valgrind log is interesting. | 15:05 |
| tedg | I wonder if there's something of the wrong type so that hashtable isn't getting free'd. | 15:06 |
| tedg | In theory dbus-glib should do that... but I don't have a huge amount of faith in it. | 15:06 |
| klattimer | tedg: line number? | 15:06 |
| tedg | klattimer, The last entry in the valgrind log. For properties_copy | 15:06 |
| tedg | It allocated a hashtable which get's passed to dbus-glib. | 15:07 |
| klattimer | yeah | 15:07 |
| tedg | No, I think that serialze_menu item has a leak of that hashtable.... | 15:08 |
| tedg | Uhg. | 15:08 |
| davidbarth | klattimer: hi; thanks for checking that; do you think you could have a patch for maverick still? | 15:14 |
| klattimer | davidbarth: what's the deadline | 15:14 |
| davidbarth | ie, should i target that against the 10.10 milestone? | 15:14 |
| davidbarth | well, the hard FF is this thursday | 15:14 |
| klattimer | tomorrow? | 15:14 |
| davidbarth | yes | 15:14 |
| klattimer | OK, I'll do my best | 15:14 |
| davidbarth | if the leak is severe, it should be commitable after that, or if not, as an SRU or Natty | 15:14 |
| davidbarth | klattimer: cool, thanks for your help | 15:15 |
| klattimer | davidbarth: this is probably fixable now | 15:17 |
| klattimer | just looking at the code and in theory it's possible | 15:18 |
| klattimer | oh | 15:18 |
| klattimer | :/ | 15:18 |
| klattimer | davidbarth: nope | 15:18 |
| klattimer | it's not fixable quickly | 15:18 |
| davidbarth | doh | 15:18 |
| davidbarth | what's the issue | 15:18 |
| klattimer | adding/removing devices requires a new menu to be created | 15:18 |
| klattimer | so it's not just a matter of when the battery level changes, change the menu item | 15:19 |
| klattimer | it all routes through the same portion of code for adding/removing and updating values | 15:19 |
| klattimer | so the proper fix is to try and fix the libdbusmenu-glib issues, and possibly an upstream bug on gtk | 15:19 |
| klattimer | davidbarth: bare in mind, the most major memory leaks are already fixed | 15:19 |
| davidbarth | klattimer: so it's a minor leak | 15:21 |
| klattimer | davidbarth: in theory it's only minor | 15:22 |
| davidbarth | klattimer: if a gpm triggers the leak every 10s, how long for it to eat 10M, 100M? | 15:22 |
| klattimer | 2Mb per hour is as high as I've seen it | 15:22 |
| davidbarth | so 48MB a day | 15:22 |
| klattimer | give or take | 15:22 |
| klattimer | but as tedg says, it's dependent on battery firmware | 15:22 |
| davidbarth | but for HW that is really verbose | 15:22 |
| davidbarth | right | 15:22 |
| klattimer | davidbarth: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-application/+bug/569273 comment #53 has some details | 15:23 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 569273 in Application Indicators "memory leak in gnome-power-manager (affected: 58, heat: 305)" [Medium,In progress] | 15:23 |
| davidbarth | makes sense for an SRU if that can't get into the release within the next 2 weeks (RC) | 15:23 |
| klattimer | maybe you want to reassign to libdbusmenu-glib for now? | 15:24 |
| tedg | klattimer, I think there's two bugs. | 15:25 |
| tedg | klattimer, The one there with the hashtable, but it's in a new function we only started using a lot in Maverick. | 15:25 |
| klattimer | tedg: in libdbusmenu and gtkmenu? | 15:25 |
| tedg | klattimer, I think the leak above it in the valgrind log is the same one that was in Lucid, which is the gtkmenu one. | 15:26 |
| tedg | klattimer, So Maverick made it worse, but it's still a problem :) | 15:26 |
| klattimer | has the gtkmenu bug been upstreamed yet? | 15:26 |
| klattimer | do you have details/ayan's test code? | 15:26 |
| tedg | klattimer, I believe that ayan hadn't found the leak 100% yet. Just had a small program to exercise it. | 15:26 |
| klattimer | I could produce a decent valgrind log for upstream to gtk | 15:27 |
| tedg | I'm not sure where ayan is on that... but certainly helping out there would be good. | 15:27 |
| tedg | klattimer, Can you double check this for me? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ted/dbusmenu/hashtable_free/+merge/35540 | 15:29 |
| klattimer | sure | 15:29 |
| tedg | It passes the test suite, so it must be perfect :) | 15:29 |
| klattimer | in serialize_menuitem | 15:31 |
| klattimer | tedg: it looks good to me | 15:31 |
| tedg | Cool. Thanks klattimer! One down :) | 15:32 |
| tedg | A million more memory leaks to go :) | 15:32 |
| klattimer | well, that'll probably solve the majority of the issue | 15:32 |
| klattimer | heh | 15:32 |
| klattimer | tracing memory leaks is sometimes like trying to walk on marbles | 15:32 |
| klattimer | tedg: the good thing about fixing in libdbusmenu is that we save memory in a lot of apps | 15:34 |
| klattimer | fixing in gtk would be better wins | 15:34 |
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| tedg | Yup. The more the code's used, the more each line counts. | 15:36 |
| tedg | Might be an interesting metric to calculate using something like Ohloh's DB. | 15:37 |
| * tedg needs interns | 15:37 | |
| klattimer | heh | 15:40 |
| Paddy_NI | Will indicator-appmenu be available for lucid at all? | 15:41 |
| tedg | Paddy_NI, We have no plans to backport it, but someone could. I believe their are packages in the Unity PPA, but I don't believe they're up-to-date. | 15:42 |
| tedg | there are.... | 15:43 |
| Paddy_NI | Oh that would be nice | 15:43 |
| * tedg apparently offended mpt with his misuse of "there" :) | 15:43 | |
| Paddy_NI | As far as I can see there will be no need for the gnome-globalmenu project | 15:43 |
| Paddy_NI | He another question, how much of the gnome global menu code did you use? | 15:46 |
| Paddy_NI | *hey | 15:46 |
| tedg | Paddy_NI, Not any, we have a different approach. Mostly using DBus which they weren't. So we talked to them to learn about the issues get ideas, but the code sadly wasn't useful. | 15:50 |
| klattimer | tedg: would be nice of have an "application" menu as part of appmenu | 15:51 |
| klattimer | i.e. the current application name | 15:51 |
| klattimer | sort of bold... with window manager functions ;) | 15:51 |
| klattimer | like a certain fruit company we all know and love | 15:51 |
| tedg | klattimer, Yeah, we were just focused on getting the menus out for now. It'd be interesting to do something like that. | 15:52 |
| tedg | klattimer, Not sure. It seems like it's a lot of duplication with the File menu in most Linux apps though. | 15:52 |
| klattimer | it's a massive improvement over globalmenu anyway | 15:52 |
| klattimer | well, file->quit never makes sense | 15:53 |
| tedg | The problem is changing applications just sucks. I think we learned that with appindicators :) | 15:53 |
| klattimer | yeah, I can see the problems | 15:53 |
| klattimer | it's just not easy to say "look, this is a great api, and much better interaction, lets all switch" | 15:53 |
| klattimer | and get people on board that way | 15:54 |
| tedg | Yeah, unfortunately there's a perception problem we have there. Where any Canonical project is "not upstream" so therefore people sadly avoid dependencies. Hopefully that'll change over time :( | 15:55 |
| Paddy_NI | tedg, Well I for one look forward to trying indicator-appmenu and Unity | 15:56 |
| Paddy_NI | :) | 15:57 |
| Paddy_NI | from what I hear the dbus approach is much better | 15:57 |
| klattimer | Paddy_NI: it is and doesn't rely on deprecated gnome libs | 15:57 |
| klattimer | so it'll survive the gnome 3 turmoil | 15:57 |
| Paddy_NI | Excellent | 15:57 |
| Paddy_NI | Was getting QT applications to work with it very difficult? | 15:59 |
| tedg | agateau, ^ | 16:03 |
| Paddy_NI | I was also wondering when application indicators land will the top panel in gnome be a little crowded on the netbook edition with the window controls and appmenu? | 16:03 |
| Paddy_NI | It is just I have not seen a screenshot of this as yet | 16:04 |
| agateau | Paddy_NI: we have a Qt implementation of dbusmenu and a Qt patch | 16:04 |
| tedg | Paddy_NI, It depends on how many applications you run :) | 16:04 |
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| jcastro | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomboy/+bug/627744 | 16:53 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 627744 in tomboy (Ubuntu) "note names are blank in applet menu (affected: 2, heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:53 |
| jcastro | is anyone available to look at this? | 16:53 |
| jcastro | klattimer: how's your c# these days? | 16:56 |
| klattimer | my c# is practically non existent atm | 16:57 |
| klattimer | haven't used it in 2years | 16:57 |
| jcastro | k, maybe sense has time | 16:57 |
| klattimer | but it's all code at the end of the day | 16:57 |
| klattimer | so if you're hardup assign it to me | 16:57 |
| jcastro | I'll assign for now but ask for help | 16:57 |
| klattimer | k | 17:00 |
| jcastro | heya vish | 17:00 |
| klattimer | jcastro: if it's any help, i cant reproduce the above bug | 17:05 |
| klattimer | worksforme | 17:05 |
| jcastro | it also worksforme | 17:05 |
| vish | jcastro: hey. | 17:07 |
| jcastro | vish: if any of your papercutter gang wants to look at #627744 then I won't complain. :D | 17:09 |
| vish | bug 627744 | 17:10 |
| jcastro | kenvandine: how's your tomboy applet dropdown? | 17:10 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 627744 in tomboy (Ubuntu) "note names are blank in applet menu (affected: 2, heat: 20)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627744 | 17:10 |
| vish | jcastro: hehe , the gang got scattered after the UIF! ;) but i think lucidfox likes those.. and sense is in hiding :D | 17:12 |
| * vish tries to find someone.. | 17:12 | |
| jcastro | cool, if I see them I'll ping them, but since you're on opposite time zones if you see them ... :) | 17:12 |
| vish | sure.. | 17:13 |
| ronoc | Cimi: you there ? | 17:56 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|break | ||
| Cimi | ronoc: yep | 18:20 |
| ronoc | hey Cimi, hows it going ? | 18:20 |
| Cimi | could be better but it's ok ;) | 18:20 |
| Cimi | thank you | 18:20 |
| ronoc | good stuff, this bug is annoying me -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-sound/+bug/632774 | 18:21 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 632774 in The Sound Menu "right border of transport control is different colour (affected: 1, heat: 46)" [Low,Confirmed] | 18:21 |
| Cimi | eheh | 18:21 |
| Cimi | me too | 18:21 |
| ronoc | its seems as if the bg colour for ambience is slightly off in contrast to what is use to draw the border of the menuitme | 18:21 |
| Cimi | the problem is that the GtkDrawinArea seems filled with bg[NORMAL] | 18:22 |
| ronoc | is that not correct ? | 18:22 |
| ronoc | should it not be ? | 18:22 |
| Cimi | I mean | 18:22 |
| Cimi | I would prefer to have it transparent | 18:22 |
| Cimi | bratsche: ? | 18:22 |
| ronoc | ahh its not a biggie | 18:22 |
| ronoc | i was just hoping to get a quick fix in for tonight | 18:23 |
| Cimi | maybe he has an idea | 18:23 |
| ronoc | i think bratsche is at lunch | 18:23 |
| ronoc | cool | 18:23 |
| ronoc | bratsche, can you ping me when you are back | 18:24 |
| ronoc | biab | 18:25 |
| bratsche | I'm back. | 18:34 |
| bratsche | ronoc, Cimi | 18:34 |
| bratsche | Cimi: We can't really fill anything with transparent until we land rgba. But we need an idea of how to specify rgba colors in the theme, per-widget and per-state. | 18:36 |
| Cimi | bratsche: ok thank you | 18:38 |
| bratsche | Cimi: I haven't been following, but is there anything new theming-wise in git master that we should be aware of? | 18:38 |
| bratsche | Do you know? | 18:38 |
| Cimi | bratsche: maybe the css thing by carlos garnacho | 18:38 |
| Cimi | wait a second | 18:38 |
| bratsche | But has that landed? | 18:39 |
| Cimi | http://blogs.gnome.org/carlosg/2010/08/23/css-like-styling-for-gtk/ | 18:39 |
| bratsche | Cimi: I updated my patch to add corner resize grips today, btw. | 18:39 |
| Cimi | cool | 18:40 |
| bratsche | Cimi: I'll pull down garnacho's branch and look at it. Ideally I want to be able to specify an RGBA color to background-color or foreground-color properties in the CSS. | 18:40 |
| bratsche | If it doesn't support that, I'll just add it. :) | 18:40 |
| ronoc | bratsche, so will I park this bug for now ? | 18:47 |
| ronoc | i.e. can't be fixed until this rgba stuff lands | 18:48 |
| bratsche | Uhh.. that doesn't look like an RGBA issue. That just looks like there are two slightly different colors being themed somewhere. | 18:49 |
| ronoc | yeah that is what I thought | 18:49 |
| bratsche | But I dunno. | 18:49 |
| ronoc | Cimi, ^ | 18:50 |
| ronoc | would it be possible Cimi that the bgnormal is slightly different in the theme compared against what is actually used to draw the border of the menu | 18:50 |
| Cimi | ronoc: bratsche simply, the menu background has a horizontal gradient :) | 19:08 |
| Cimi | it's not a flat bg[normal] | 19:08 |
| Cimi | while the gtkdrawingarea is a flat bg[NORMAL] | 19:08 |
| bratsche | Ah, makes sense. | 19:08 |
| ronoc | ah | 19:08 |
| * Cimi had to go, leaving irc on anyway | 19:08 | |
| bratsche | No worries. | 19:08 |
| === MacSlow|break is now known as MacSlow | ||
| vish | kenvandine: tedg: seen Bug 636693 ? it has a patch.. | 21:05 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 636693 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) "Redundant lock before launching guest session (affected: 1, heat: 1728)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636693 | 21:05 |
| kenvandine | i haven't | 21:05 |
| vish | seems like we are doing it twice there.. would be nice if someone commented on the patch | 21:07 |
| tedg | vish, No, looking. | 21:08 |
| vish | thx | 21:09 |
| Paddy_NI | Hey this is a little offtopic but have any of you read this or had to sign the agreement --> http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2010/09/copyright-assignments-gone-wild-or-why.html | 21:43 |
| kklimonda | Paddy_NI: it's completely offtopi but I've read it :) | 22:22 |
| Paddy_NI | Perhaps canonical should rethink how they treat their contributors :) | 22:23 |
| kklimonda | I disagree but that's my humble opinion | 22:24 |
| kklimonda | sure, there is a question whether it's a valid copyright assignment at all as it isn't signed in any way. | 22:24 |
| kklimonda | I haven't had any objections to sign the agreement myself - but then I have a pragmatic view about things and what I care about is getting things fixed and not about who owns the code or what can he do in the future with it. | 22:27 |
| JanCBorchardt | vish, I actually just came online to ask: »WTF is up with the bug watch updater!?« :) | 23:29 |
| vish | JanCBorchardt: yeah.. they just turned them on.. :) | 23:29 |
| nigelb | JanCBorchardt: there was un update | 23:30 |
| nigelb | so, now it updates importance too | 23:30 |
| vish | JanCBorchardt: also , re: the lp unsubscribe , there is a bug about that , but no one seems to have reached a consensus how to handle it | 23:30 |
| JanCBorchardt | vish, nigelb: ah, thanks! | 23:31 |
| JanCBorchardt | vish, do you have a link? | 23:31 |
| vish | JanCBorchardt: not sure , but ask in #launchpad or try searching ;) | 23:32 |
| JanCBorchardt | vish, ok | 23:34 |
| vish | JanCBorchardt: oh , i havent forgotten the mail either.. :) | 23:36 |
| JanCBorchardt | vish, this looks like it: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/204980 | 23:38 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 204980 in Launchpad Bugs "bug contacts should be able to unsubscribe from implicit subscriptions (affected: 4, heat: 44)" [High,Triaged] | 23:38 |
| vish | JanCBorchardt: yup , thats the one :) | 23:39 |
| devildante | vish, now that's five :p | 23:39 |
| vish | devildante: fail! ;p | 23:39 |
| devildante | argh | 23:39 |
| vish | devildante: this was already in the 3 ;) | 23:39 |
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