[00:00] <charlie-tca> not really, it is already
[00:00] <CarlFK> figured.  wanted to make sure it wasn't my box
[00:00] <CarlFK> woa.. this thing boots so fast it bothers me :)
[00:01]  * duffydack turns down the boot
[00:01] <charlie-tca> after that screen of stuff, just don't hit enter. It will slow it W-A-Y down ;-)
[00:05] <nemo> theeere we go. might want to shrink the window buttons too, but this is good enough for now
[00:14] <IdleOne> BUGabundo: how do I unlock dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[00:15] <BUGabundo> first kill the apt task
[00:15] <BUGabundo> then remove the lock file
[00:17] <IdleOne> BUGabundo: /var/cache/apt/archives/lock correct?
[00:18] <BUGabundo> think so
[00:18] <yofel> !aptlock
[00:18] <IdleOne> thanks yofel
[00:18] <IdleOne> that did it
[00:22] <IdleOne> don't think I will be rebooting for a while
[00:23] <BUGabundo> lol
[00:24] <IdleOne> heh
[00:25] <IdleOne> I got dependency errors now with  linux-headers-2.6.35-21-generic
[00:28] <BUGabundo> well, *you* broke the update, didn't you ?
[01:03] <kklimonda> :)
[01:06] <BUGabundo> ridding the sleeping horse, I say au revoir
[01:40] <nemo> hm
[01:40] <nemo> trying out fingerprint authentication
[01:40] <nemo> sudo works
[01:40] <nemo> gdm works
[01:40] <nemo> login works
[01:40] <nemo> su fails
[01:41] <nemo> gnome-screensaver fails
[01:41] <nemo> gnome-screensaver seems to work, but just hangs on "checking"
[02:07] <nemo> hm. doesn't really work for gdm either
[02:07] <nemo> I can log in, but only if it doesn't cancel, and if I log out, gdm needs restart
[02:07] <nemo> and polkit doesn't work at all
[02:08] <nemo> well, that leaves gksu, sudo and logging in on terminal
[02:08] <nemo> su also works on vt
[02:22] <tukadafoonday> Morning people.
[02:23] <tukadafoonday> If i have installed linux onto the first harddrive which is now taking the section that windows wants to install its MBR, how can i adjust this without having to reinstall both OS's? should i just shrink the linux / and have it start at 200mb?
[02:26] <psusi> tukadafoonday, don't do anything... grub will detect windows and let you boot it
[02:27] <tukadafoonday> how do i install windows onto my second harddrive then? because the windows installer won't in stall without haviung that section for windows.
[02:29] <psusi> install winders first, then install ubuntu is the easiest way
[02:31] <theconartist> tukadafoonday, its very very easy
[02:31] <theconartist> unplug your first hdd
[02:31] <theconartist> install windows
[02:31] <theconartist> replug and add windows to grub
[02:31] <tukadafoonday> i have just install ubuntu and got it how i want it, i wanted to play starcraft 2 now and i can;'t get it working with wine.
[02:32] <theconartist> you will never be as good as me anyway so why bother with sc2
[02:32] <psusi> then install windows, then you will need to reinstall grub after windows trashes it
[02:33] <theconartist> or he can just do what i said
[02:33] <theconartist> :/
[02:33] <psusi> or yea, unplug the first drive to install windows, then plug in the ubuntu drive, and run update-grub and it should detect windows
[02:33] <psusi> ;)
[02:33] <tukadafoonday> I can handle reinstalling grub, however i can't install windows without changing the partition table on my first harddrive unless i do what theconartist
[02:33] <theconartist> i said unplug it
[02:33] <theconartist> it wont be able to see the first
[02:33] <theconartist> it will think it is on the first
[02:33] <tukadafoonday> However there must be a way to do it without removing the harddrives or deleting linux
[02:33] <theconartist> you dont have to remove it
[02:33] <theconartist> just unplug it
[02:34] <theconartist> that also has the upside of you being able to use the bios to chose your OS too
[02:34] <tukadafoonday> I have a laptop which makes it a little harder.
[02:34] <theconartist> you have 2 hdds on your laptop?
[02:34] <tukadafoonday> Yeh, i do.
[02:34] <theconartist> wtf man
[02:34] <tukadafoonday> two 500gb drives
[02:34] <theconartist> i have one 40gb ssd
[02:35] <tukadafoonday> I want to put a 160gb ssd drive in... so expensive though!
[02:35] <theconartist> i dont game or anything on my laptop tho
[02:35] <theconartist> and can stream videos from other computer or my vps
[02:35] <theconartist> 5 second boot 2 second shutdown
[02:35] <theconartist> yeaaaa budday
[02:36] <tukadafoonday> Thats  a quick boot and shutdown, i think i got about 30seconds?
[02:36] <tukadafoonday> maybe less
[02:36] <theconartist> once unity isnt a buggy pos i will be super happy
[02:37] <theconartist> also are you any good at sc2?
[02:37] <theconartist> i have a friend who plays on SEA servers who is always looking for someone good to practice with
[02:37] <tukadafoonday> never played it before... just bought it yesterday.
[02:37] <theconartist> o
[02:58] <karbak> I ended up having to install Maverick (command line only) on a Thinkpad W510 using the alternate installer since the normal installer wouldn't complete booting.
[02:59] <karbak> I've installed the ubuntu-desktop meta-package .. but I still only have a vanilla Gnome install ...
[02:59] <karbak> Any idea what I need to install to get the standard Maverick desktop ?
[02:59] <karbak> A theme package ? Or something else ?
[03:01] <nemo> karbak: before giving up on the normal installer, did you try a few of the kernel options?
[03:01] <nemo> karbak: like apic / acpi / free drivers that sorta thing?
[03:02] <karbak> Hmm .. afraid I didn't ..
[03:02] <karbak> I do have a proper install up and running at this point.
[03:03] <karbak> It's just that it's vanilla Gnome with a rather ugly set of controls.
[03:04] <karbak> It's not a deal-breaker, but I rather liked what I saw of the Maverick desktop.
[03:05] <theconartist> you mean unity?
[03:47] <mast`> I have a bit of an issue after updating to Maverick. I'm using an ATI card with the propriatery drivers and after the first reboot I got stuck in text mode, so I purge'd the drivers and rebooted in safe mode then reinstalled the Ubuntu/maverick drivers downloaded from the ATI website but no luck. Anyone has an idea what to do?
[03:50] <ZekeS> ... on a side note, DockbarX is awesome
[03:50] <ZekeS> err wrong channel, sorry
[05:13] <PreZ> I am trying to install 10.10 ... but ubiquity is giving a bus error (core dump) when I try to launch it
[05:19] <CarlFK> why doesn't middle click paste the selected text?
[05:21] <ChogyDan> wfm?
[05:22] <PreZ> hrm.  I guess you guys don't test installation on bog standard x86_64 machines.
[05:22] <PreZ> *shrug* time to try a different install
[05:22] <CarlFK> bog?
[05:23] <PreZ> 'bog standard', 'stock', 'default', 'the most common version'
[05:23] <PreZ> 'not modified'
[05:23] <CarlFK> ah
[05:40] <Votan> Is there an issue with setting it'S Picture/Nickname in empathy in maverick ? It doesmt seem to save what i enter
[05:41] <javatexan> wow 273 updates, seems like I just update couple days ago...
[05:43] <philsf> after I updated this night, my netbook boots to an all white screen. anyone know what this means?
[05:43] <ChogyDan> philsf: double rainbow!
[05:44] <philsf> there were some mesa packages, and the kernel, and I tried both reinstalling these packages and removing ~/.gnome* and ~/.gconf*
[05:44] <philsf> ChogyDan, what's that?
[05:44] <ChogyDan> philsf: did you check your Xorg.0.log logs?
[05:44] <ChogyDan> philsf: a youtube reference, just a joke
[05:45] <philsf> ChogyDan, not yet, but it only happens with the netbook main interface, not the 2D one, and gnome
[05:46] <Dink> philsf, its the mesa package
[05:47] <Dink> if you revert back it works fine
[05:47] <philsf> Dink, should I revert it to the previous?
[05:47] <philsf> ok, I'll try
[05:47] <philsf> thanks
[05:47] <philsf> Dink, btw, which mesa package? all that were upgraded, or only one?
[05:47] <Dink> all, for me it was 3
[05:48] <philsf> Dink, thanks, I'll try that
[05:48] <Dink> libgl1-mesa-glx, libgl1-mesa-dri and libglu1-mesa
[05:49] <PreZ> I'm guessing nobody knows why ubiquity is coring (with a bus error) on my x86_64 box?
[06:25] <vlcn> is there really no way to customize the panels in 10.10 UNE?
[07:07] <AnxiousNut> Why cant I change anything in the gnome panel of unity?
[07:07] <Dementedsnake> Hello, I'm on 10.10 and my Wacom tablet works perfectly. I just want to know if the configuration file's location has changed. It's not in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[07:17] <graphitemaster> yes I already know.
[07:19] <Dementedsnake> I'll ask again later.
[07:43] <graphitemaster> I'm having some issues here.
[07:43] <graphitemaster> I managed to break my sources, and I have no clue how :/
[07:43] <graphitemaster> W: GPG error: http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com maverick Release: No keyring installed in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/.
[08:14] <graphitemaster> W: GPG error: http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com maverick Release: No keyring installed in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/.
[09:38] <Ian_corne> My update seems to have frozen at a samba install
[09:38] <Ian_corne> anyone else?
[10:44] <thedog> hi guys, i've installed maverick beta, upgraded, and installed ubuntu-netbook
[10:44] <thedog> when I try to login using netbook session all I got is a blank screen with mouse cursor
[10:45] <thedog> is there a way to fix that?
[10:46] <vega_> i also tried it out like that, and basically nothing worked, lots of crashes etc.
[10:46] <vega_> now back in regular gnome :)
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> thedog: netbook edition got some bugs on launchpad
[10:47] <ebischoff> Hi people and thanks for the good work. After today's update i'm running into the hideous "Cannot get ibus-daemon's address". Any clue ?
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> check maverick bugs website
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> im using livecd 64bit no issues here at all
[10:48] <thedog> lotuspsychje: in regular gnome, all works fine
[10:49] <bobthemilkman> I'm having some trouble getting zsnes to run properly in 10.10 x64. I have it working properly on my laptop, which uses some unknown (9.10? 9.04?) version of Kubuntu x64.  I managed to install it by downloading the i386 .deb  from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/i386/zsnes/1.510-2.2ubuntu4, and then running sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture (filename).
[10:49] <ebischoff> it only appeared after today's update. is your livecd that recent ?
[10:49] <bobthemilkman> On my laptop, I can run it just fine by running "zsnes," however, on my desktop (10.10), I have to run "zsnes -ad sdl". Failure to use these options gives me libao errors.
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> thedog: i never tested netbook edition sorry
[10:49] <ebischoff> thedog : the problem appears in kde startup process
[10:50] <thedog> kde??
[10:50] <ebischoff> yes, kde
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> ebischoff: is netbook edition kde based?
[10:50] <thedog> ebischoff: I'm talking about gnome-netbook
[10:50] <thedog> unity etc.
[10:50] <bobthemilkman> Note that zsnes is an SNES emulator for x86.  Is there any way to find out what exactly is different between my laptop and my desktop that is causing these runtime differences?
[10:51] <ebischoff> ok, let's restart. After network updating today my kubuntu maverick test machine which has not shown any problem so far, i run into the old ibus-damon process.
[10:51] <ebischoff> sorry if conversations mixed up.
[10:51] <thedog> :D
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> np ebischoff
[10:51] <ebischoff> ;-)
[10:52] <ebischoff> s/process/problem/ , oops
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> ebischoff: did you check launchpad bugs on ibus?
[10:53] <ebischoff> lotus: yes i did, forums too, but it seems that every single person has a different reason for running into this one
[10:53] <thedog> I've found that, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/638725
[10:53] <thedog> it's a bug
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> thedog: i think netbook edition will fix alot at official maverick release
[10:53] <ebischoff> i just checked the maverick launchpad, two reports about ibus, but unrelated
[10:54] <thedog> me too, I think i've to wait
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> ok ebischoff
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> regular gnome never worked better for me
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> everything works
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> and superfast
[10:54] <thedog> yes, lotuspsychje, and on a netbook is very responsive
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/9673/screenshot3dz.png
[10:54] <thedog> i'm happy for that
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> got it running on ssd
[10:55] <ebischoff> apart from this, maverick beta is incredibly stable, if i compare to what i experienced with lucid, karmic, etc
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> 4sec system halt
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> i agree ebischoff
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> lucid gave a lotta problems forme
[11:12] <rye> anybody here running unity? It started to display only white background after the latest update
[11:13] <htorque> rye, hmm, let me update
[11:15] <ebischoff> hmmm, i filed a bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/638817 but it did not go to maverick-bugs, i think :-(
[11:22] <htorque> rye, getting a white screen, but just for a second or so (but it always was like that for me) - nvidia 6600 gt, nvidia-current, xorg-edgers ppa
[11:23] <rye> htorque, hm, i am using an intel 945GME
[11:50] <repete> I have a dell laptop w/ broadcom wireless and the right drivers installed
[11:50] <repete> but nm says that wireless is disabled...
[11:51] <repete> I know there is a file in /proc I can cat to see if the radio is on.  Anyone know which file that is?
[11:58] <repete> nm... didn't realise it was a soft key to disable the radio :-)
[12:17] <rye> (unity:2286): ClutterGLX-CRITICAL **: Unable to make the stage window 0x1a0004f the current GLX drawable Mesa 7.9-devel implementation error: Bad renderbuffer format: 21
[12:17] <rye> :(
[12:17] <rye> my unity is not uniting
[12:34] <ricardinho> hi, my X server  is broken. Can somebody help me?
[12:40] <om26er> why is the topic talking about the font?
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows howto disable all brightness adjustment both on ac/battery
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> when i plugin ac power brightness dims lol
[13:06] <the_dark_warrio> My Xorg is behaving strangely: its CPU usage is varying between 20% and 50%, sometimes it spikes to 80%. This started after I upgraded to Maverick from Lucid. Any hints on why this is happening?
[13:13] <the_dark_warrio> The CPU is rising when I scroll text buffers in general, for instance, pidgins buffer, or a VIM buffer. If I keep crazily scrolling, the CPU goes to 95%!
[13:13] <SwedeMike> sounds like you don't have any gpu acceleration at all, you should look in your X logs and see what drive it's using.
[13:13] <SwedeMike> driver
[13:35] <the_dark_warrio> SwedeMike: But I'm using composing, I guess my driver is OK
[13:35] <the_dark_warrio> SwedeMike: where can I look for X log files?
[13:36] <SwedeMike> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles
[13:41] <coz_> hey guys.. a bit of an issue... I have two machines  with maverick installed,.,,,,  on this machine I did current updates  on the other I did not...both runnin compiz 0.9.0  but now this machine shows this error when starting compiz 0.9.0  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/errors/error
[13:41] <coz_> the other machine also with compiz 0.9.0 but not current updates  , compiz 0.9.0 runs fine
[13:43] <Malkavian_> Hi, I tested Kubuntu Maverick Beta ad the desktop freezes;
[13:43] <Malkavian_> anyone experienced the same?
[13:43] <coz_> Malkavian_,  are you running compiz on that?
[13:44] <Malkavian_> no, just booting kubuntu (kde), opening the settings panel, changing something, like window borders and then boom
[13:44] <coz_> mmm
[13:44] <coz_> Malkavian_,  I had a similar issue but it was compiz related , resetting to defaults  did the trick but also installing gcc 4.5
[13:44] <Malkavian_> it freezes, I can only move the mouse, but then I have to physically restart the computer
[13:44] <BajK> Malkavian_: using nouveau driver?
[13:44] <Malkavian_> no
[13:44] <coz_> Malkavian_,  not related I would guess to your issue
[13:45] <Malkavian_> Lucid works just fine
[13:45] <ricardinho> having similar problems. Getting a white screen on login to gnome
[13:45] <Malkavian_> I had this problem first with Maverick
[13:45] <the_dark_warrio> SwedeMike: I'm looking at Xorg.0.log file now. Could you help me finding which driver it is using?
[13:46] <SwedeMike> the_dark_warrio: you might be able to learn some from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html
[13:47] <SwedeMike> hm, I guess that one didnt show that
[13:47] <SwedeMike> it's usually quite evident in the logs, I haven't looked at this for years.
[13:47] <coz_> the_dark_warrio,  it probably is under Section "Device"
[13:47] <BajK> Can I remove pulseaudio safely from Kubuntu 10.10?
[13:48] <coz_> BajK,  kubuntu?  I didnt think kubuntu was using pulseaudio
[13:48] <BajK> coz_: 10.10 is
[13:48] <BajK> by default
[13:48] <coz_> ah
[13:48] <coz_> eeww
[13:48] <BajK> and it sucks
[13:48] <coz_> :)
[13:48] <BajK> well I do appreciate their efforts of porting pulseaudi
[13:48] <BajK> as I really like being able setting EACH stream's volume separately
[13:49] <BajK> works even for every youtube video that is opened (every flash player) and things
[13:49] <coz_> BajK,   I prevented  pulse from starting up using  sysv-rc-conf
[13:49] <the_dark_warrio> There is a section in the log saying: LoadModule: "glx" (...) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[13:49] <BajK> coz_: on my 10.04 i just uninstalled it
[13:49] <BajK> but my USB headset does not work when pulseaudio is active
[13:49] <BajK> fonon just displays "internal audio hardware" (on 10.10) or "PulseAudio server" (on 10.04)
[13:50] <BajK> and I can neither set individual volumes on devices (left speakers, front, center, mic etc) nor does it enable me to use any other audio device than the default
[13:51] <coz_> BajK,  yikes  well  I am not up to par with pulseaudio issues   have you also tried  #pulseaudio channel  ?
[13:51] <BajK> there seems to be a channel for EVERYthing, isnt it? I'll give it a try there, thanks
[13:51] <coz_> :)
[13:52] <coz_> BajK,  well the various channels allow for more concentrated support
[14:05] <BajK> lol, just did a dist-upgrade, now kubuntu 10.10 does not start properly
[14:06] <BajK> it starts X, the KDE splash appears, and then it crashes to console and starts X and KDE splash and crash.. all over again the whoole time
[14:09] <King_Lui> Hello, where can i find the xorg.conf in Ubuntu 10.10
[14:10] <bazhang> King_Lui, there is not one by default
[14:10] <King_Lui> okay how can i create one?
[14:14] <kishon> i get "Illegal instruction (core dumped)" for commands like cp, su etc.. any help on how to get this solved??
[14:20] <kishon> i get "Illegal instruction (core dumped)" for commands like cp, su etc.. any help on how to get this solved??
[14:21] <bazhang> kishon, su? you mean sudo, surely
[14:21] <kishon> yeah.. sudo
[14:22] <bazhang> kishon, could you pastebin the exact error messages along with the command used at paste.ubuntu.com ?
[14:24] <King_Lui> how can i crash the x server that it cannot start at the next boot
[14:29] <JAMD456> Can I ask why the text in the yellow box is in white when the theme box suggests a font for the user when you select the High Contrast Large Print Reverse, making it almost impossible to see
[14:35] <kishon> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/yR2Z5uit
[14:36] <bazhang> kishon, there is not actual command there.  sudo some command here
[14:36] <kishon> bazhang: dint get u..
[14:36] <bazhang> kishon, sudo apt-get install packagename
[14:38] <kishon> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/1Lhv1YTY
[14:40] <kishon> King_Lui: what's the exact scenario in which you want to crash x-server?
[14:43] <King_Lui> i use btrfs to make a snapshot from the / i wanna crash the system like delete /usr/sbin/gdm then i wanna restore it
[15:04] <coz_> hey guys.. a bit of an issue... I have two machines  with maverick installed,.,,,,  on this machine I did current updates  on the other I did not...both runnin compiz 0.9.0  but now this machine shows this error when starting compiz 0.9.0  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/errors/error
[15:04] <coz_> the other machine with no current updates works well
[15:11] <IdleOp> what do I do with the following?
[15:11] <IdleOp> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[15:13] <coz_> IdleOp,   do you have synaptic opened also?
[15:14] <IdleOp> coz_: nope
[15:14] <coz_> mmm
[15:14] <IdleOp> no other apt processes running
[15:14] <coz_> IdleOp,  have you tried to reboot ?
[15:14] <IdleOp> coz_: I'm crazy, not stupid :)
[15:15] <coz_> IdleOp,  no offense meant
[15:15] <IdleOp> coz_: hehe no I haven't but honestly don't feel like not having a bootable system right now
[15:15] <IdleOp> coz_: none taken :)
[15:16] <coz_> IdleOp,  try    fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[15:16] <IdleOp> here is full error http://paste.ubuntu.com/494212/
[15:16] <coz_> to determine the process holding the lock then kill it
[15:17] <IdleOp> returned to a prompt with no output
[15:17] <coz_> mmm
[15:19] <IdleOp> I'll figure it out later
[15:19] <IdleOp> if you think of anything coz_ feel free to ping me with it :)
[15:19] <coz_> IdleOp,  I was sure   fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat  would show the culprit
[15:19] <coz_> let me try that here with sudo hold on
[15:19] <coz_> mope
[15:20] <IdleOp> oh with sudo it does return some output
[15:20] <coz_> cool  does it indicate the process that might be locking?
[15:20] <IdleOp> /var/cache/debconf/config.dat:
[15:20] <IdleOp>                      root      27982 F.... frontend
[15:20] <coz_> mmm
[15:20] <IdleOp> says root
[15:21] <coz_> IdleOp,  i will search this...if I find someting usefull I will let you know...althnough I think a reboot would work :)  also I am sure someone else here may have better solutions
[15:21] <IdleOp> ok coz_ thanks, much appreciated
[15:22] <IdleOp> I'll be back in a bit
[15:22] <IdleOp> PM me anytime
[15:22] <look> with 10.10 have fixed the driver issue witht he Nvidia graphics cards?
[15:22] <look> ^will
[15:23] <coz_> look,  its not working at all for you?
[15:23] <look> no, i want to upgrade
[15:23] <coz_> look,  from karmic?
[15:23] <look> from 10.04 (which i spent 8 days getting to even boot)
[15:23] <look> so when i upgrade i don't want to loose the install
[15:24] <coz_> look,  mm  well with the kernel change in marverick the nvidia driver will  have to reinstall
[15:24] <look> FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[15:24] <look> well
[15:24] <look> looks like ill have to spend another 8 days...
[15:24] <coz_> look,  well the nvidia kernel module will have to be updated for the kernel in use on maverick
[15:25] <coz_> look,  although I was able to install the ofifical dirver from nvidia after blacklisting nouveau
[15:25] <look> coz_: i'll just see if nomodeset will work again
[15:25] <bjsnider> the nvidia driver is automatically recompiled into any new kernel by dkms
[15:26] <coz_> look,  yes ^^
[15:26] <look> when the official build comes out next month, ill do a test install to see if i can get it working, Document my findings and what not, post on the forums for later help if noone has done it yet
[15:26] <look> well lets hope so, i don't want to loose all my work
[15:26] <look> (python source, and what not)
[15:27] <coz_> I know that 260.19.04 nvidia driver manually installed is working well
[15:27] <coz_> although current updates have broken compiz 0.9.0
[15:27] <bjsnider> manually installed?
[15:27] <look> bjsnider: with apt-get
[15:28] <coz_> bjsnider,  yeah i blacklisted nouveau ,,,downloaded the driver  and ran the  .run nvidia driver install
[15:28] <bjsnider> that is not the proper procedure
[15:28] <bjsnider> the .run files are incompatible with ubuntu and even nvidia says so
[15:28] <look> bjsnider: but it worked, therefore its just fine
[15:28] <bjsnider> nice reasoning
[15:28] <coz_> bjsnider,  works fine here
[15:29] <look> well miracles do happen right? bjsnider
[15:29] <coz_> acutally improved performance
[15:29] <bjsnider> it damaged your xorg/mesa system
[15:29] <bjsnider> whether you can see the damage or not, it took place anyway
[15:30] <coz_> bjsnider,  in all honesty... I cant use a distribution that does not allow installation of drivers manually ...it makes no sense
[15:30] <bjsnider> the 260 blob is in the x-updates ppa
[15:30] <coz_> but I wont get into that topic again :)
[15:31] <bjsnider> did you miss the sticky post on the nvforums website where nvidia is telling people to use the distribution installer instead of the .run files?
[15:32] <look> coz_: you should sudo apt-get nvidia-current <----
[15:33] <ricardinho> sorry about the instrusion, is this a white screen problem?
[15:33] <look> ricardinho: no this is a problem with the Nvidia drivers that 10.04 and 10.10(might have)
[15:34] <ricardinho> ok...
[15:34] <ricardinho> look: thanks
[15:34] <look> do you have a problem with the white screen? that might be a driver probelm also, try booting with nomodeset.
[15:36] <Paddy_NI> Hey is it possible to get indicator-appmenu on lucid?
[15:37] <vexati0n> HELP! Nautilus is ridiculously slow,  keeps freezing.... anyone know why or what i might to do fix that?
[15:37] <coz_> bjsnider,  no but  in order for ubuntu to be real usefull  the nvidia drivers available need to have current beta   the current release and three other released drivers prior to that   plus at least three legacy drivers  ... not everyone has current systems  and nouveau is far from ready
[15:38] <IdleOp> coz_: so i tried killing that process being run by root and then did a dpkg --configure -a. Seems to have configured everything without errors
[15:38] <coz_> IdleOp,  cool :)
[15:38] <IdleOp> yup :) thanks for the help
[15:38] <coz_> limiting the available drivers in jockey to 3  is not really helpful
[15:39] <coz_> its actually irritating to have a limited choice when so many systems with just as many hardware configs are out there
[15:44] <bjsnider> with the x-updates ppa and the regular repos you have two blob choices, plus with the ubuntu jockey installer you have dkms so the blob is automatically rebuilt when kernel updates happen, and the ubuntu installer doesn't overwrite mesa files like the .run installer always has
[15:45] <vexati0n> HELP! Nautilus is ridiculously slow,  keeps freezing.... anyone know why or what i might to do fix that?
[15:45] <bjsnider> we always have new nvidia blob releases in x-updates within about 24 hours
[15:45] <coz_> bjsnider, understood completely
[15:47] <coz_> bjsnider,  well  I  get from your description "blob" that nvidia is not a favorite of yours ...yes?
[15:47] <bjsnider> it's short for binary blob. it just means closed source
[15:47] <coz_> I see
[15:48] <bjsnider> it's a shorthand way of differentiating between the nvidia driver and something like nouveau
[15:48] <coz_> bjsnider,   well I understand the desire for nouveau and an opensource driver...amd  has proven that
[15:48] <coz_> bjsnider,  but i dont think that is going to happen for a few years down the road
[15:55] <lucidfox> So, is it possible to add Banshee to the sound menu?
[15:56] <Milos_SD> Hi
[15:56] <Milos_SD> Is there a way to get MPD support in Maverick sound indicator?
[15:56] <Milos_SD> :)
[15:59] <coz_> hey guys one more thing...I notice that python-sexy is not available  the reasoning i read that emesene doesnt use it anymore however compiz does
[16:01] <vexati0n> who needs compiz
[16:01] <coz_> vexati0n,  I do and thousands of others
[16:02] <lucidfox> aha, found banshee-extension-soundmenu
[16:02] <lucidfox> odd that it's not installed by default, though
[16:02] <vexati0n> yeah i was being sarcastic, if i didn't have compiz i'd be sad too.
[16:02] <coz_> :)
[16:03] <coz_> vexati0n,  although python-sexy is not absoilutely necessary to run compiz it does give the added option of advances search for keybindings
[16:03] <coz_> advanced search
[16:04] <vexati0n> yeah...
[16:04] <vexati0n> well i am still wondering why nautilus keeps freezing
[16:04] <lucidfox> okay
[16:04] <coz_> vexati0n,  that one I am not sure of .... did you do current updates?
[16:04] <vexati0n> every time i open the folder, it locks up for like 15 seconds and goes all grey
[16:04] <vexati0n> yeah i keep updated
[16:05] <vexati0n> but this was an upgrade from lucid so maybe it's an old package stuck somewhere
[16:05] <lucidfox> I've installed and enabled the Sound Menu and MPRIS extensions, yet banshee still isn't shown in the sound menu
[16:13] <Wubbbi> Hey guys. Can someone confirm the white screen that I get after logging in in uptodate Maverick Netbook? I cant use it anymore. Update on way?
[16:28] <alexsander> it's just me or Gwibber freezes a lot?
[16:31] <alexsander> on the other hand, I loved to use a MSN client with webcam support !!!
[16:33] <vega_> Wubbbi: somebody else reported that too today..
[16:34] <Wubbbi> ok well tank you. The discussion is in #ubuntu-x now
[16:43] <TheInfinity> alexsander: aMSN
[16:43] <TheInfinity> alexsander: kopete imho too
[16:44] <alexsander> TheInfinity, I never really liked aMSN, it looks "non-native"
[16:44] <TheInfinity> afaik gnome has no native msn client with video support, sorry :)
[16:45] <alexsander> TheInfinity, I'm going from KDE to GNOME and back since 1999, each one has periods of great releases and poor ones... lately I've been using GNOME
[16:46] <TheInfinity> alexsander: i just mix them since i started to use linux ;)
[16:46] <alexsander> TheInfinity, check http://live.gnome.org/Empathy
[16:47] <TheInfinity> http://live.gnome.org/Empathy/FAQ#Does_Empathy_support_audio_and_video_chat.3F
[16:47] <TheInfinity> n msn :)
[16:50] <alexsander> TheInfinity, neither aMSN...
[16:51] <TheInfinity> huh. :/
[16:52] <alexsander> but video-only seems to work
[16:52]  * TheInfinity used skype for video calls since over 2 years, so i have no overview what happened
[16:52] <myk_robinson> In network manager, the wired and wireless network are working, both are checkmarked. However, they are grayed out, I cannot uncheck them. Ideas? This problem did not occur in Lucid
[17:10] <josephnexus> Hello everyone
[17:10] <josephnexus> just wondering if the Funguloids package will be fixed in this release
[17:11] <Pici> Whats wrong with it?
[17:11] <josephnexus> it doesn't install
[17:11] <josephnexus> due to failed dependancies
[17:11] <josephnexus> it's been like that for a few yrs now
[17:11] <Pici> Was there a bug filed for that?
[17:11] <josephnexus> yes
[17:11] <josephnexus> let me find it
[17:12] <josephnexus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/funguloids/+bug/194686
[17:12] <josephnexus> it was opened early 2008
[17:14] <josephnexus> since it shows in the software centre, you'd expect it to be installable
[17:16] <Pici> hm
[17:17] <josephnexus> it seems to me that the problem should either be fixed, or the packages affected should be removed
[17:22] <Lars_G> IDK wether to weep that I spend 1 to 2 hours updating packages every day, or to thank you all profussely for the improvements in meerkat I notice every day
[17:23] <Pici> josephnexus: Actually, it looks like successful builds of that package are sitting in the NEW queue right now.
[17:23] <josephnexus> Pici, so it might actually be fixed?
[17:23] <Pici> josephnexus: Yes.
[17:23] <josephnexus> and it will be installable?
[17:24] <Pici> josephnexus: I suppose.
[17:24] <josephnexus> hopefully
[17:24] <yofel> josephnexus: it will be fixed, the problem was a nvidia-cg-toolkit package that didn't work on the launchpad buildds, which was fixed a few days ago, so funguloids will be fine too soon
[17:24] <josephnexus> it's a great game, and it's a shame it works everywhere except ubuntu
[17:24] <josephnexus> that's awesome
[17:24] <josephnexus> i'm excited for this
[17:28] <josephnexus> thanks for the information
[17:28] <josephnexus> keep up the good work!
[17:30] <wompy_dompy> hi, i just tried to update to maverick. during setting up of samba the installation fails with this error-message in the console: WARNING: Failed to read mirror file
[17:30] <wompy_dompy> what should i do now?
[17:42] <wompy_dompy> Hi.my update to mav broke with the error: WARNING: Failed to read mirror file during the setup of samba. what should i do now
[17:43] <TheInfinity> sounds like funny bugs in samba :)
[17:43] <wompy_dompy> i dont like that kind of fun..
[17:43] <wompy_dompy> ;)
[17:43] <magedragon25> speaking of samba...I have been trying to install it with synaptic and it keeps stalling
[17:44] <TheInfinity> i dont have a current beta, but looks like packages are broken atm, huh?
[17:44] <wompy_dompy> can i complete the update without samba?
[17:44] <magedragon25> I am running current updates in beta
[17:45] <TheInfinity> wompy_dompy: of course you can. have fun with apt-pinning :)
[17:46] <wompy_dompy> sounds like additional fun
[17:47] <nemo> Ok, why is my new Ubuntu 10.10 AMD64 without any native flash? :(
[17:47] <nemo> I've got it on Ubuntu 10.04
[17:48] <wompy_dompy> i tried to update my apt-get and it says that it is not able to block /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:48] <wompy_dompy> i think its still the update-manager who locks it
[17:48] <wompy_dompy> but which process is it?
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> Anyone else using Deluge and have it crash every time you close it?
[18:16] <dajhorn> nemo: Adobe discontinued it.  Recent 32-bit builds run well, however.
[18:17] <nemo> :(
[18:17] <nemo> I wonder if gnash is becoming usable...
[18:31] <yofel> "run well"... here that's more thanks to firefox being able to survive plugin crashes now, as I still get a lot of npviewer.bin segfaults here with the 32bit one
[18:34] <bjsnider> why use it i say?
[18:52] <Johannes19> nabend
[18:53] <Johannes19> hat jemand nen HDA Audio am Start?
[18:55] <yofel> Johannes19: in diesem channel wird englisch gesprochen, deutscher support für maverick ist in #ubuntu-de+1
[19:13] <coz_> hey guys how do i pull up only the software sources  dialog?
[19:16] <BajK> Is there something broken or why doesnt Kubuntu 10.10 start since I did a dist-upgrade today?
[19:18] <coz_> BajK,  not sure .. i know that  one of the libraries on gnome is a bit broken but it only seems to interfere with starting compiz  so I am not sure
[19:19] <coz_> libprotobuf  is broken here
[19:19] <yofel> coz_: you don't, you open software center and open software sources from there, or you open the run dialog and open software-properties-gtk
[19:19] <BajK> coz_: it starts Xserver, KDE splash appears and then at the moment the KDE logo should appear (the last icon), X crashes, goes back to text mode, restarts X and it cycles over and over again
[19:19] <BajK> i did reinstall 10.10 from scratch and got the same after applying dist-upgrade
[19:19] <coz_> yoasif,  that's what I wanted thanks :)
[19:19] <yoasif> :P
[19:20] <yofel> hey yoasif
[19:20] <yoasif> hey yofel
[19:20] <coz_> sorry yoasif  and yoasif    bad tab day :)
[19:21] <yofel> BajK: can you check dmesg and the X log? we did get mesa updates recently
[19:21] <BajK> yofel: mom
[19:21] <BajK> dunno how to switch to the console? its virtualbox
[19:22] <yofel> no idea, I know how it's done in kvm, but on in vbox
[19:22] <yofel> s/on/not/
[19:22] <Wubbbi> Is WLAN working fine @ your computer? On mine its very very slow! But I have 100% recive!
[19:23] <coz_> yoasif,  sorry guy  apologies for bad tabbing  and thanks again :)
[19:23] <charlie-tca> vbox will switch to any tty using your system key (right-ctrl, maybe?) and f2, f3, etc
[19:23] <yoasif> np
[19:23] <BajK> charlie-tca: ah kay
[19:24] <BajK> but it doesnt help
[19:24] <BajK> I end at thje login
[19:24] <BajK> of the console
[19:24] <BajK> and then xserver takes over
[19:24] <BajK> and crashes and starts and crashes
[19:24] <BajK> it does not leave me at tty1
[19:24] <BajK> how can i send sysrq+k?
[19:24] <coz_> let me bring this up again... two machines  ..both maverick + compiz 0.9.0   ...this machine all current updates  the other no current updates... this machine...when starting compiz spits this out   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/errors/error
[19:25] <charlie-tca> mouse - left-click Machine on top
[19:25] <BajK> ah ok i am now at the console
[19:26] <Wubbbi> Can someone confirm my WLAN issue?
[19:27] <yofel> Wubbbi: works fine here (intel chip, WPA2 g)
[19:30] <Wubbbi> I also have intel chip and WPA2 but it load thinks with 3,4kb/s and it dont matter what. Also Web-Pages takes a lot time to load -.-
[19:30] <Wubbbi> I bet its a broken driver or kernel here -.-
[19:33] <coz_> I could compile 0.9.0 sans protobuf  but was curious of anyone else has seen this broken?
[20:16] <dutchie> hi, i think i'm seeing bug 637002, but i'm not sure of how to generate a tcpdump to compare with the one in the report to see whethe it's the same
[20:58] <anr78> I'm running the beta in a Virtualbox VM. After yesterdays updates I'm thrown into initramfs at boot. I tried booting from a LiveCD to run fsck, but it complaints that the device is mounted (though it's not). Any ideas?
[21:00] <ikonia> anr78: check it's not mounted on the livecd, especially under gfs
[21:01] <anr78> ikonia: neither mount, gparted or .gvfs indicate any "mountation"
[21:05] <sebsebseb> Hello Hi
[21:08] <KnifeySpooney> Hi, does anyone know where intel gpu hangs are logged? My gpu hung before I rebooted and I saw that the program 'intel_gpu_dump' was running automatically then finished. Anyone know where it wrote to?
[21:11] <CT1> Hi.  What are the differences, advantages/disadvantages (with regards the end result) between these three ways of upgrading: 1. Upgrading from Lucid -> Maverick beta -> installing updates after final release. 2. Clean install of beta then updating in october. 3 Upgrading in october?
[21:12] <CT1> If the end result is the same, I want me some Meerkat!
[21:12] <CarlFK> #3 is most likely to work
[21:14] <CarlFK> I  booted cd, picked "install" from boot menu, now at welcome/language step.  tried to connect to a hiden wifi, seems to fail.  is there some way to open a term window to run dmesg?  or should I reboot into the live desktop?
[21:15] <yofel> KnifeySpooney: the folks in #ubuntu-x might know
[21:16] <KnifeySpooney> yofel, thanks
[21:25] <oneneedshelp> hi....i need help......just installed 10.10.....dunno how to install application .tar.gz
[21:26] <IdleOp> oneneedshelp: what is it you are trying to install?
[21:26] <oneneedshelp> utorrent
[21:26] <oneneedshelp> got it from utorrent.com
[21:26] <IdleOp> !compile
[21:27] <IdleOp> the above should help you
[21:27] <oneneedshelp> very technical for my humble knowledge
[21:27] <oneneedshelp> will try to understand
[21:27] <IdleOp> oneneedshelp: then perhaps you should not be running a beta version of Ubuntu
[21:28] <oneneedshelp> it is what i found on the front page
[21:28] <oneneedshelp> sometime ago i had version 9.1
[21:28] <IdleOp> can you run lsb_release -a in a terminal and tell me what it returns
[21:29] <oneneedshelp> how do I do that ?
[21:29] <IdleOp> open a terminal
[21:29] <jamalta> Hi, is there a reason why the Me Menu won't let me post to my broadcasts account, even though I've configured Gwibber?
[21:29] <jamalta> The input box is disabled.
[21:30] <oneneedshelp> how to open terminal ?
[21:31] <IdleOp> oneneedshelp: if you can't open a terminal without help you really should not be running 10.10
[21:31] <IdleOp> !manual | oneneedshelp
[21:31] <IdleOp> the manual linked above will help get you started with the basics of Ubuntu
[21:31] <oneneedshelp> can u pls help me now on this ?
[21:32] <IdleOp> go to Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[21:32] <IdleOp> type: lsb_release -a
[21:32] <IdleOp> what version does it say is installed
[21:33] <nemo> kklimonda: still no linux-backports-modules-alsa-2.6.35-21-generic in Synaptic :(
[21:33] <oneneedshelp> Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS release 10.04
[21:34] <oneneedshelp> codename: Lucid
[21:34] <IdleOp> oneneedshelp: ok you are running Lucid.
[21:34] <IdleOp> Now go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware and read up on how to compile software. if you need more help ask in #ubuntu.
[21:35] <oneneedshelp> in ubuntu they told me to come here
[21:35] <IdleOp> Consider searching in the Software Center under the Applications menu before downloading from the internet.
[21:35] <IdleOp> oneneedshelp: that is because you said you were running 10.10
[21:35] <oneneedshelp> yes
[21:35] <IdleOp> but you aren't
[21:36] <oneneedshelp> ah ok
[21:36] <oneneedshelp> right
[22:02] <Vardan> hi all. people I have installed kubuntu 10.10 beta release and have such kind of problem. For example when I open rekonq the system says that there are some extra packages that I may need to install I click details it's showing packages names I click install, then the system ask my password I type password and every time it shows up this message "The package "" has not been found among your software sources. Therefore, it cannot be installed." what is the
[22:04] <Vardan> sudo aptitude update not helped
[22:48] <jamalta> Any clue why the broadcast input box in the MeMenu is disabled? I have Gwibber configured and working.
[23:12] <lupine_85> hrm, I've installed the ubuntu beta and evolution thinks it's working offline and doesn't have any settings to make it working online
[23:13] <lupine_85> ah, it's talking to the stupid network-manager applet
[23:14] <lupine_85> bleh
[23:15]  * lupine_85 reluctantly sets up eth0 with NM rather than /etc/network/interfaces
[23:21] <cozziemoto> hey guys... no sun java in partner repos yet...is it coming????  yes??
[23:23] <Dink> cozziemoto, normally comes later
[23:23] <yofel> there is a bug requesting it, nothing more yet
[23:23] <cozziemoto> Dink,  ok  and yofel  thanks
[23:23] <cozziemoto> will have to just install lucid and upgrade the system
[23:24] <yofel> erm, you can add lucid partner to maverick
[23:24] <cozziemoto> yofel, mm i could yes  that might be a better solution
[23:43] <Tetsuo55> hi, can we get this packadge updated somehow? 1.43-3 (cppcheck)
[23:47] <Cpt_Zyph> hey guys is this OCT release going to tbe the version that does not have a gnome shell?? or is that a later release?
[23:47] <nigelb> gnome shell has been there for some time
[23:47] <nigelb> only it isn't the default yet
[23:47] <Cpt_Zyph> i was reading that the gnome shell will not be in the next release
[23:48] <nigelb> its a bit crashy tbh
[23:48] <svu> evince says: GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.Evince.Default' is not installed
[23:48] <svu> and dies
[23:48] <svu> is that fixable?
[23:49] <CarlFK> installed from CD, didn't get the new wallpaper.  does that mean I forgot to check "download updates while installing" ?
[23:50] <Cpt_Zyph> nigelb i figured thats why they were relasing one that is being taken out. i'm thus far been learning fedora but i would like to check out ubuntu just trying to wait for one if there is going to be a major change in OCT i might wait untill then
[23:50] <nigelb> Cpt_Zyph: it doesn't work in Ubuntu, I forget why, some conflict/crash
[23:52] <cc12> hey all has anyone tried 10.0 beta
[23:53] <CarlFK> dist-upgrade = "need to get 150m of archives"  so yeah, I guess i forgot to check the box
[23:53] <Cpt_Zyph> nigelb so is there anything major in this new release that i should be waiting for .. or is it an easy thing to update to the new release next month? that way i can get practice in now
[23:54] <kklimonda> svu: is your system up to date?
[23:54] <nigelb> Cpt_Zyph: Plenty, unity is coming in this release, sound menu, and much more
[23:54] <CarlFK> cc12: i have been running it on my laptop for about 6 weeks, and just installed a 2 day old daily.  so far so good.
[23:55] <Cpt_Zyph> sound menu like theme effects when clickign menus and such.. i'll have to read up on unity not sure what that is.. thanks i'll read up more.. btu the core of the OS will eb the same so learning some this month should be applicaple to next etc..
[23:56] <Cpt_Zyph> nigelb i found that link again i was reading from before https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekLucid/AskMark