[01:10] <miosec_> hi
[03:39] <Guest80099> totally just got on irc through a school computer lol
[03:40] <Guest80099> ok going to configure this alot better lol!
[03:41]  * aveilleux blinks
[03:42] <stlsaint> aveilleux: care to take a stab at one of my apache logs...
[03:42] <stlsaint> aveilleux: i never cared to look at them much but they are getting my attention as i get attacked more and more
[03:43] <aveilleux> stlsaint: I know very little about apache besides how to set it up
[03:43] <stlsaint> oh ok
[03:43] <aveilleux> stlsaint: Sorry
[03:44] <stlsaint> np
[06:21] <arundracula> Today when I turned on the computer, wifi is gone No wlan0 device.. I don't know what happened
[06:22] <Mohan_chml> hey arundracula.
[06:22] <Mohan_chml> you have your wireless switched on?
[06:22] <arundracula> yes
[06:22] <arundracula> It is a PCI card
[06:22] <Mohan_chml> you are using BSNL ?
[06:23] <arundracula> yesterday duanedesign suggested to 'modprobe rtl8580' to make it detected. And it worked. But today its gone
[06:23] <Mohan_chml> Hmmm..! is that now working for ya today?
[06:24] <arundracula> No such device for wlan0
[06:25] <Mohan_chml> arundracula: you tried pppoeconf in teerminal?
[06:25] <Mohan_chml> terminal*
[06:26] <arundracula> now trying
[06:26] <Mohan_chml> arundracula: type sudo pppoeconf in terminal and see whether its detecting your wlan
[06:27] <arundracula> Found 1 ethernet device eth0
[06:27] <Mohan_chml> Okay click forward/yes
[06:28] <arundracula> Scanned.. and says scanned 1 interface... Access Concentrator of your provider didnt respond....
[06:29] <Mohan_chml> argh!
[06:29] <Mohan_chml> I will google it and will brb
[06:30] <arundracula> Wait I have Windows in which this is working.. I will boot that so that if an initialization problem or something...
[06:30] <arundracula> brb
[06:31] <JoeMaverickSett> arundracula: duanedesign	gksudo gedit /etc/modules	12:21
[06:31] <JoeMaverickSett> duanedesign	that looks like where the module needs to be added so it loads at boot	12:21
[06:31] <JoeMaverickSett> oops, sorry
[06:32] <Mohan_chml> arundracula: <arundracula> Wait I have Windows in which this is working.. I will boot that so that if an initialization problem or something...
[06:32] <Mohan_chml> aww
[06:32] <duanedesign> hello
[06:32] <Mohan_chml> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-August/121828.html
[06:32] <Mohan_chml> arundracula: ^
[06:33] <JoeMaverickSett> Mohan_chml: i think he didn't do just like duanedesign suggested yesterday.
[06:33] <duanedesign> arundracula: it sis not modprobe the module?
[06:34] <duanedesign> arundracula: can you run:  lsmod | grep rtl8180
[06:34] <Mohan_chml> arundracula: respond to us please
[06:35] <Mohan_chml> duanedesign: when he said like "I have Windows in which this is working..", I got a link whick I shared above with the same words mentioned in it. please look at that too (:
[06:35] <duanedesign> arundracula: oh no we lost him/her
[06:36] <Mohan_chml> duanedesign: hes from India (:
[06:36] <duanedesign> Mohan_chml: i thought we added rtl8180 to theright file last night
[06:36] <Mohan_chml> I can smell his IP ::D
[06:37] <duanedesign> is not /etc/modules where you put modules you want to load everytime you boot?
[06:37] <Mohan_chml> duanedesign: let him come back and we can enquire him
[06:37] <Mohan_chml> I think no!
[06:38] <duanedesign> sudo modprobe rtl8180 <--that will get hiw wireless back. But we need to figure out how to make that change persistent
[06:38] <Mohan_chml> hmm.!
[06:39] <Mohan_chml> duanedesign: how about adding to system->preferences-> startup applications?
[06:39] <Mohan_chml> Just a try (:
[06:40] <Mohan_chml> we can add whatever command that has to run and I think that will work
[06:43] <duanedesign> yeah that might work
[06:43] <duanedesign> he could add:  sudo modprobe rtl8180
[06:45] <Mohan_chml> duanedesign: sudo is needed there? as its a boot up command
[06:45] <Mohan_chml> Ohai phillw (:
[07:11] <arundracula> no wlan0
[07:13] <Mohan_chml> arundracula: open terminal and type sudo modprobe rtl8180
[07:14] <arundracula> typed
[07:15] <Mohan_chml> what popped up when you hit enter?
[07:15] <arundracula> Nothing
[07:15] <arundracula> No errors
[07:16] <Mohan_chml> now also you cant connect to the internet?
[07:17] <arundracula> I am using wvdial
[07:17] <arundracula> to connect to internet
[07:17] <arundracula> I want to share it over wifi
[07:18] <Mohan_chml> duanedesign: Ping
[07:19] <Mohan_chml> arundracula: what ISP your using? BSNL or Reliance?
[07:19] <arundracula> BSNL
[07:19] <arundracula> EVDI
[07:19] <arundracula> EVDO
[07:19] <Mohan_chml> Hmm... for my pppoeconf worked
[07:20] <Mohan_chml> I am not using wvdail for BSNL
[07:20] <arundracula> This is a USB modem from qualcomm
[07:21] <Mohan_chml> ah..! okay.
[07:21] <duanedesign> i am not sure about sharing an internet connection.
[07:21] <arundracula> Anyway wlan0 is not showing
[07:21] <arundracula> iwconfig wlan0
[07:21] <arundracula> wlan0     No such device
[07:22] <duanedesign> arundracula: is this on the computer we worked on yesterday or is this the second computer?
[07:22] <arundracula> Yes, the same computer
[07:22] <duanedesign> can you see if this command returns anything?    lsmod | grep rtl8180
[07:23] <arundracula> yes
[07:23] <arundracula> it returns something which rtl8180 in red 4 time
[07:23] <arundracula> 4 times
[07:24] <duanedesign> ok
[07:26] <arundracula> I'll be back.. power gone..
[07:26] <Mohan_chml> oh...12 to 2 :P
[07:26] <arundracula> No.. this is random
[07:26] <arundracula> :)
[07:27] <Mohan_chml> arundracula: It is regular from 2 to 4 In my town
[07:27] <Mohan_chml> he quit :?
[07:27] <Mohan_chml> duanedesign: I have my state for this issue. We have a regular two hours powercut a day :/
[07:27] <Mohan_chml> have/hate*
[07:32] <arundracula> yeah
[07:35] <duanedesign> arundracula: did you have to restart your computer?
[07:35] <arundracula> yes
[07:35] <arundracula> restarted
[07:35] <duanedesign> i wonder if the wireless driver((module) stayed loaded?  lsmod | grep rtl8180
[07:36] <duanedesign> do you get the same 4 lines
[07:36] <arundracula> Yes it is
[07:37] <arundracula> yes
[07:37] <duanedesign> ok. I wonder if it is something in your iptables. Can you run:  iptables -L
[07:38] <arundracula> Yesterday lspci -nn shown Belkin Device [1799:700f] (rev 20) after wifi worked.. But now it is showing Belkin Device [1799:300f] (rev 20)
[07:38] <arundracula> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[07:38] <arundracula> target     prot opt source               destination
[07:38] <arundracula> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[07:38] <arundracula> target     prot opt source               destination
[07:38] <arundracula> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[07:38] <arundracula> target     prot opt source               destination
[07:38] <duanedesign> ok that is ok, the iptable
[07:39] <arundracula> Yesterday I tried to ipforward and some modprobes to share ppp0 over wlan0.
[07:40] <arundracula> I don't know how to check if it was the problem
[07:40] <duanedesign> ok.
[07:40] <duanedesign> arundracula: the command: lsmod
[07:41] <duanedesign> will list all the modules
[07:41] <duanedesign> that would be the result of the modprobes
[07:41] <arundracula> ok
[07:41] <duanedesign> you can paste it at http://pastebin.ca/
[07:42] <duanedesign> might be kinda long. Though I am not sure if I would recognize exactly what you need/dont
[07:42] <arundracula> http://pastebin.ca/1941151
[07:43] <arundracula> rtl8180 is used by 0
[07:45] <duanedesign> arundracula:  lshw -C network  <--this will show you if the driver is bound to the device
[07:46] <duanedesign> their will be a section
[07:46] <duanedesign> configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ath9k driverversion=2.6.35-20-generic firmware=N/A latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn
[07:46] <arundracula> *-network UNCLAIMED
[07:46] <duanedesign> see 'driver=ath9k' that is my driver
[07:46] <arundracula> configuration: latency=64 mingnt=32
[07:46] <duanedesign> hmm
[07:49] <arundracula> yesterday I 'ndiswrapper -a'  with downloaded rtl8180 driver. After that I removed this driver using the ndiswrapper gtk . And then I typed modprobe rtl8180.
[07:49] <arundracula> Then it showed working
[07:50] <duanedesign> arundracula: you shouldnt need ndiswrapper with the native linux driver
[07:50] <arundracula> ok
[07:50] <duanedesign> arundracula: do you get 0 when you run:  cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[07:51] <arundracula> Yes
[07:58] <arundracula> I have a linux driver from realtek.
[07:59] <duanedesign> arundracula: i am out of ideas. I would try and find the guides you used yesterday and see if you can possibly figure out if maybe one of those modules you loaded with modprobe might be the source of your problem
[07:59] <arundracula> ok
[08:01] <arundracula> I have doubts with iptable_bat, nf_nat, ip_tables
[08:03] <arundracula> Also this /etc/network/interfaces contains this only
[08:03] <arundracula> auto lo
[08:03] <arundracula> iface lo inet loopback
[08:06] <duanedesign> mine has
[08:06] <duanedesign> auto lo
[08:06] <duanedesign> iface lo inet loopback
[08:07] <arundracula> Yesterday I've modprobed ndiswrapper and blacklisted bcm43xx.
[08:08] <duanedesign> out of the modules you listed I only have ip_tables FWIW
[08:10] <duanedesign> also you might try to grep dmesg to see if that log has any clues. The command would be something like:  dmesg | grep wlan
[08:13] <duanedesign> if you still have the ndiswrapper configuration file in /etc/modprobe.d/ you can get rid of that.  sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[08:16] <arundracula>  dmesg | grep wlan returns nothing
[08:20] <arundracula> How about this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4450560&postcount=12
[08:24] <arundracula> After blacklisting all, I am trying  a restart
[08:25] <arundracula> BRB
[09:59] <Silver_Fox_> Hi all :)
[16:36] <IAmNotThatGuy> shredder12:
[16:48] <kimbis> I want to install Ubuntu on my laptop that has Windows Vista installed. I don't want to do a dual install, I want to completely irradicate Windows and install Ubuntu. I have downloaded Ubuntu desktop to a USB stick and backed up my files to an external harddrive. How do I know my laptop can handle Ubuntu and are there instructions on how to start with formating my harddrive and installing from the stick?
[16:50] <hobgoblin> kimbis: assuming that the usb booted - check that everything that you need to work does so. Once you are sure that you want to proceed start the installer that is on the desktop. When you reach the partition stage choose use whole disk and vista will be wiped and ubuntu will install using the WHOLE disk
[16:51] <kimbis> I have two partitions, will that mess things up?
[16:52] <hobgoblin> kimbis: it will use the whole disk - any existing partitions will be deleted and then the disk will be reformatted.
[16:52] <hobgoblin> may I ask why you don't want to start with a dualboot?
[16:53] <kimbis> I've used other Linux programs before and loved them. I only have Vista on this laptop because it came that way. I needed a computer quickly when the last one died and I've been too lazy to switch. I really can't stand having Windows.
[16:54] <hobgoblin> aah - k - just making sure it was not some sort of reason that isn't a real one :)
[16:55] <hobgoblin> then I would go ahead - make sure there are no known issues - try a search of the forum maybe for the make/model and also read the release notes
[16:55] <kimbis> I feel stupid, but I didn't see any specifications for installing it. I looked at the laptop page and it wasn't listed there.
[16:55] <hobgoblin> kimbis: which are here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes
[16:55] <hobgoblin> kimbis: what make/model is it and what laptop page is that?
[16:56] <kimbis> It was a page coming from the Ubuntu page...a link I found there. I have an Aspire 5100 (yeah, it's a piece...ha ha!)
[16:57] <kimbis> I'm thinking perhaps I should have it on both CD and stick or?
[16:58] <hobgoblin> well I would be the wrong person to ask - I don't possess a stick at all lol
[16:58] <hobgoblin> but it is worth having a cd I would guess
[17:00] <kimbis> It can't hurt to have both I suppose. Thanks for the help! :-D
[17:01] <Mohan_chml> Hey hobgoblin =]
[17:01] <hobgoblin> kimbis: you're welcome - don't forget when you are in the livecd and assuming you have net you can come back and ask if you need to
[17:02] <hobgoblin> hi Mohan_chml
[17:02] <kimbis> Ok! Thanks!
[17:02] <Mohan_chml> Good luck kimbis (:
[17:02] <kimbis> Thank you!
[17:03] <Mohan_chml> hobgoblin: I sat back and watched whether you are with the same energy like before 6 months (:
[17:03] <hobgoblin> lol
[17:03] <hobgoblin> nothing changes Mohan_chml
[17:03] <Mohan_chml> :D
[18:00] <Abhijeet_> SOUND CARD NOT DETECTED MY LAPTOP IS ACER 5740 HOW CAN I INNSTALL THE DRIVER NO SOUND OUTPUT IN MY LAPTOP PLEASE HELP
[18:00] <Mohan_chml> Abhijeet_: swirch off the caps
[18:01] <Abhijeet_> sorry
[18:01] <Mohan_chml> goto system-> preferences-> sound and check the hardware tab
[18:01] <Mohan_chml> Abhijeet_: ^ no worries (:
[18:02] <Abhijeet_> there is nothing in it , the hardware tab not showing the hardware
[18:02] <Mohan_chml> aww
[18:03] <Mohan_chml> running lspci in terminal displays your audio device?
[18:05] <Abhijeet_> no ,
[18:05] <Mohan_chml> I think your hardware drives is not detectd. you updated your machine too?
[18:06] <hobgoblin> Abhijeet_: run lspci and paste to paste.ubuntu.com please
[18:06] <Abhijeet_> please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/494296/
[18:06] <duanedesign> Abhijeet_: are you running 10.04 Lucid Lynx?
[18:07] <hobgoblin> Abhijeet_: Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio
[18:08] <Abhijeet_> then why it is not detected by the system and also the alsamixer is not working
[18:09] <hobgoblin> it is detected - might not be working though ;) and what do you mean alsamixer is not working
[18:09] <hobgoblin> see what aplay -l  says
[18:11] <Abhijeet_> please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/494299/
[18:11] <Mohan_chml> Abhijeet_: sorry my internet collapsed.
 I think your hardware drives is not detectd. you updated your machine too?
[18:14] <duanedesign> Abhijeet_: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:14] <Abhijeet_> i have not updated but till afternoon it was working then my friend experianted  and install oss and esound. are they responsible for this?
[18:14] <Abhijeet_> im running ubbuntu 10.10
[18:15] <hobgoblin> possibly playing with oss and esound in a dev version did - was it working previously?
[18:16] <duanedesign> Abhijeet_: they might of uninstalled alsa and/or pulseaudio to install oss
[18:16] <Mohan_chml> Abhijeet_: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)
[18:16] <Mohan_chml> your audio device is detected
[18:16] <hobgoblin> Mohan_chml: we've been there :) aplay loses it
[18:17] <Mohan_chml> hobgoblin: sorry I missed my logs due to my disconnect problem :(
[18:17] <hobgoblin> I guessed :)
[18:17] <Abhijeet_> yes it was working
[18:17]  * Mohan_chml hatez his ISP
[18:17] <Mohan_chml> heya duanedesign (:
[18:18] <hobgoblin> Abhijeet_: so why did you install oss and esound?
[18:18] <hobgoblin> Abhijeet_: I would reverse the steps you did this afternoon
[18:19] <Mohan_chml> Abhijeet_: you are watching us..?
[18:19] <Abhijeet_> yes
[18:19] <duanedesign> Abhijeet_:If you ran the following and selected OSS that would prevent ALSA from loading : sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base
[18:19] <Abhijeet_> how can i recover the problem
[18:19] <hobgoblin> and hi duanedesign
[18:21] <duanedesign> hello hobgoblin o/
[18:24] <hobgoblin> Abhijeet_: either do what duanedesign said ^^ if that is what you did or reverse whatever you did earlier
[18:26] <Abhijeet__> mohan are u there
[18:27] <Mohan_chml> Abhijeet__: <hobgoblin> Abhijeet_: either do what duanedesign said ^^ if that is what you did or reverse whatever you did earlier
[18:27] <Mohan_chml> That is what I can say
[18:27] <duanedesign> Abhijeet__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base <--and select ALSA, then reboot
[18:29] <duanedesign> Abhijeet__: also run this to make sure pulseaudio is still installed: apt-cache policy pulseaudio
[18:29] <Mohan_chml> Abhijeet__: you are there?? try using an IRC client like pidgin or exchat which will make you see this soon
[18:31] <duanedesign> here is a guide on installing OSS. It has a reverse changes section. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-oss4-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-for-better-sound-quality.html
[18:32] <duanedesign> Abhijeet_: `^^
[18:33] <Abhijeet_> im not hearing any sound from my lapy. please help me
[18:35] <Mohan_chml> LOL
[18:35] <Mohan_chml> now he Quit
[18:36] <Mohan_chml> sometimes Indian ISPs do make people get frustrated :/
[18:37] <Mohan_chml> Abhijeet_: try to wait for a second
[18:38] <duanedesign> Abhijeet_: if you installed OSS,  here is a guide on installing OSS. It has a reverse your changes section at the bottom. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-oss4-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-for-better-sound-quality.html
[18:38] <Abhijeet_> yes im trying it
[18:40] <Mohan_chml> Abhijeet_: I know you have internet trouble. So I just took a screenshot of the previous chats. look http://i54.tinypic.com/2ce1353.png
[18:41] <Mohan_chml> wb philinux
[18:41] <Mohan_chml> Abhijeet_: you are there?or again a disconnect?? :(
[18:41] <philinux> \o/
[18:41] <Mohan_chml> how is life philinux ?
[18:42] <philinux> Not bad. Off to watch some footy tonight
[18:42] <Mohan_chml> ah! cool
[18:42] <philinux> Are you on GMT or elswhere
[18:43] <Mohan_chml> GMT+5:30 Indian Standard time =]
[18:43] <philinux> Ah late evening then
[18:43] <duanedesign> off to eat lunch. have a good day hobgoblin Mohan_chml, and best of luck Abhijeet_
[18:44] <hobgoblin> duanedesign: cya - I am off shortly for dinner
[18:44] <philinux> I is off at 7:15
[18:44] <philinux> GMT that is
[18:44] <Mohan_chml> see ya duanedesign. bring something for us when you come back
[18:44] <Abhijeet_> no im live i think both options are not working , because im having ubbuntu 10.10 and the oss4 is available for 10.04 only.
[18:45] <Abhijeet_> can a update will solve my problem
[18:49] <hobgoblin> an update won't help - you need to undo whatever it was you did in the first place
[18:49] <hobgoblin> I am at a loss as to why you did it anyway if sound was working - but hey :)
[18:49] <hobgoblin> I'm off now - good luck
[18:50] <philinux> See ya Hob.
[18:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> see.... Indian ISPs are never good :/
[18:51]  * IAmNotThatGuy stabs BSNL ISP for this
[18:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> philinux: where are you from?
[18:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> you are 5 hours ahead of me
[18:52] <hobgoblin> where the time is normal
[18:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> No I am ahead
[18:52] <philinux> Lancashire England
[18:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> hobgoblin: clock
[18:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> :D
[18:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> philinux: cool
[18:53] <philinux> Mohan in disguise
[18:53] <Mohan_chml> :o
[18:54] <Mohan_chml> philinux: I am not that guy :D
[19:56] <sebsebseb> Hi
[19:57] <zkriesse> wazzup sebsebseb
[19:57] <sebsebseb> zkriesse: not much
[22:54] <Silver_Fox_> Hello =)
[22:55] <stlsaint> hola
[22:55] <Silver_Fox_> How are you stlsaint  ?
[22:55] <stlsaint> great
[22:55] <Silver_Fox_> \O/
[22:55] <stlsaint> Silver_Fox_: i hope to be A+ cert by this weekend...then on to Sec+
[22:56] <Silver_Fox_> Hope it goes well for you
[23:14] <lukjad> Silver_Fox_ !
[23:14] <Silver_Fox_> lukjad!
[23:15] <lukjad> Silver_Fox_ Guess what? :D
[23:15] <Silver_Fox_> What?
[23:15] <lukjad> Today I got two compliments from random people about my attire :D
[23:15] <Silver_Fox_> Cool
[23:15] <Silver_Fox_> Nice one
[23:16] <Silver_Fox_> lukjad:  Guess what
[23:16] <lukjad> Yeah :D
[23:16] <lukjad> Silver_Fox_ What? :D
[23:16] <Silver_Fox_> I got a mac
[23:16] <Silver_Fox_> :D
[23:16] <Silver_Fox_> Hehe
[23:16] <Silver_Fox_> Is that no soo evil ;)
[23:16] <lukjad> Silver_Fox_ Well, I support people on PCs all day, so I can't really complain. :)
[23:17] <lukjad> PCs being Windows PCs
[23:18] <Phrea> I have a question, if nobody minds
[23:18] <lukjad> Phrea Go ahead
[23:18] <Phrea> Picasa is actually an embedded wine installer, inst it
[23:18] <Phrea> why is it that I can only install a beta, without translations then?
[23:20] <Phrea> I don't get it
[23:21] <BGL-[d]> i've pretty much went back to windows from ubuntu on my desktop pc @ home
[23:21] <BGL-[d]> primary reasons being flash/performance/issues & lack of modern (fps) games that i really started to miss
[23:21] <seidos> macs are overpriced pieces of hardware and software.  i think an ubuntu system from zareason.com or system76.com would be preferable.  i sold my macbook.  should've bought a system from zareason.com.  would've been happier.
[23:22] <Phrea> sorry, am I not being clear enough?