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MuscovyWait, not to mention the new background. XD00:00
MadnessRednew background?00:02
Muscovyhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/the-new-ubuntu-10-10-default-wallpaper/00:04
MadnessRedoh right, yh, I though you were talking about ubuntu tour00:04
MadnessReddid you push the new language stuff?00:04
MuscovyNot yet, I'm having to play with it a bit.00:04
MadnessRedok00:05
MuscovyBecuase of the tourinfo files.00:05
MadnessRedoh, maybe you should push the current code to the core branch00:05
MuscovyI assume it's stable?00:05
MuscovyIf so, good idea.00:06
MadnessRedHaven't found any bugs00:06
MuscovyOk, I'll do that.00:06
MuscovyGrr.00:10
MuscovyPeople have been editing in the code branch.00:10
brandonjthats one of the things to be addressed at the meeting00:14
MadnessRedok00:15
MadnessRedwhen is the meeting again00:15
brandonjsat 11am EST00:17
brandonjI'm about to send an email00:17
MadnessRedunfortunately I am away that whole weekend :/00:17
Muscovy:(00:18
MadnessRedwhat do we need to discus?00:19
brandonjhttp://openetherpad.org/UbuntuTourAgenda00:21
MuscovyUI design and organization are the two things I can think of.00:21
MuscovyOh dear.00:24
MuscovyI seem to have broke the screenshots.00:24
MadnessRedyh the branches handle images differently00:25
MuscovyHuh?00:25
MuscovyAh, I see what you mean.00:26
MuscovyOk, I'll clean that up.00:26
MadnessRedThey wanted the location that webkit thinks its in to be changed from the root directory to the directory where the files are00:26
brandonjMadnessRed, Muscovy: can we keep discussion in the etherpad minimal?00:29
MadnessRedsorry :/00:29
MuscovyRight.00:29
brandonjThats what irc is for after all =P00:29
MadnessRedhows that :)00:30
MuscovyMadnessRed: images/panel_system-menu_open.jpeg is the sort of image path we're using now, right?00:32
MadnessRedtourname/images/pane_syste... i think00:33
MuscovyI think it;s the one I said.00:34
MadnessRedif you had an image  tourname/images/img.png00:35
MadnessRedyou would do <img src="images/img.png"/>00:35
OmegaHey guys.00:36
MuscovyHey Omega.00:36
MadnessRedhi00:40
MadnessRedwhat is EST?00:40
OmegaEastern Standard Time00:41
MadnessRedkk00:43
MuscovyIt's my birthday tomorrow. :D00:43
OmegaAwesome, congratz.00:43
MuscovyThanks. :D00:43
OmegaBecause I know you'll be out partying all day.00:43
MuscovyHehehe not really.00:44
Omegaand night00:44
MadnessRed:)00:44
MadnessRedhave fun00:44
MadnessRedDon't think I could be much further from my birthday tbh00:45
MuscovyI'm having some issues including images.00:49
MuscovyIt doesn't see about-ubuntu/images/panel_top.jpeg.00:49
MuscovyBut yet it sees images/ubuntu-tour-logo.png.00:50
MuscovyBoth exist.00:50
MuscovyAnd both are notated in the same way.00:50
MadnessRedhm,00:51
MadnessRedcould you put the images in the tour folder00:52
Muscovyimages/screenshots?00:52
MadnessRedthats where they are at the moment00:53
MadnessRedit appears00:53
MuscovyBut but but the files I'm pointing it at exist. :|00:53
MadnessRedhm, can you copy the img tag you are using00:53
Muscovy<img src="about-ubuntu/images/panel_top.jpeg" />00:54
MadnessRedit should be:00:54
MadnessRed<img src="images/panel_top.jpeg" />00:55
MadnessRedsorry I probably wasn't clear with my explaination, i though you were asking where to put the images00:55
MuscovyOh ok, that works.00:56
MuscovyI thought the current dir was where the application was.00:56
MadnessRedno, I was asked to change it00:56
MadnessRedI made a tour called connect to a network00:57
MadnessRedit's not complete, but it shows how to float images left and right00:57
=== brandonj changed the topic of #ubuntu-tour to: The Ubuntu Tour Project! | http://ubuntutour.org | http://openetherpad.org/GUNcK2dx75?| Join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tour | Visit the Doodle Poll and pick a time for next week's meeting: http://doodle.com/g54376rwaziahz7q
=== brandonj changed the topic of #ubuntu-tour to: The Ubuntu Tour Project! | Meeting Saturday, 18 Sept at 11 EST. See http://openetherpad.org/UbuntuTourAgenda for more info | http://ubuntutour.org | Join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tour
brandonjMuscovy, Omega, aprilg: will you three be at the meeting saturday?01:46
OmegaI will be present.01:46
brandonjcool01:48
Muscovybrandonj, Omega: I will be.02:08
brandonjexcellent02:16
MuscovyI don't like it specifically, but the logo someone put on the front page (http://i.imgur.com/KwEVR.png ) is cool.02:42
mast`hola tour-people03:43
master5o1hi03:46
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laurent_hi04:25
mast`hi04:25
MuscovyHello.04:25
laurent_Muscovy, regarding ubuntu one in the menu04:31
laurent_I thought their official way of writing it was one word04:31
laurent_like ubuntuone04:31
laurent_appears I am wrong04:34
laurent_one.ubuntu.com04:34
laurent_maybe I was getting confused with the fact that all their branding usually looks small caps04:34
MuscovyAs far as I know, it's CamelCase.04:38
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aprilgbrandonj regarding the meeting, I'll be there05:06
mast`me too!05:07
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aprilgmy internet connection sucks.05:15
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aprilgtook screenshots for empathy. some of those need to be edited though. if anyone can help me blur out the names of contacts, that would be excellent :D06:49
aprilgpushing screenshots now to lp:ubuntu-tour images/screenshots/empathy06:49
Silasleaprilg: They should be in emphaty/images/06:50
aprilgack06:52
aprilg:(06:52
aprilgI also just pushed evolution images06:52
aprilgSilasle how do I remove revisions?06:53
laurent_aprilg, do you still need the images edited to blur out contacts?07:45
laurent_and I think to remove revisions you uncommit or something but I have never done that07:46
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aprilglaurent_ hi, regarding the blurred-out contacts, yes please :)09:15
aprilgI didn't have a dummy account I could use so I used my own to get screenshots09:15
aprilgthanks!09:15
laurent_sure thing09:16
laurent_aprilg, did you want the users avatars blurred too?09:21
aprilgyes please :)09:24
laurent_are there any other images that you want anything done to or just the empathy contacts?09:29
aprilgthe conversation window has a name also, I think09:31
aprilgthanks so much for this :) I really have no idea about editing images09:31
aprilg:)09:31
aksharpatel47read the details regarding the meeting agendas on the etherpad09:42
aksharpatel47I think there is one more agenda we need to add09:42
aksharpatel47about programming language that will be used09:43
aksharpatel47I know python is given on the homepage of ubuntu09:43
aksharpatel47just thought we should discuss and make it final09:44
aksharpatel47what are your thoughts people?09:44
popeyprogramming language for what?09:45
aksharpatel47the application ofcourse09:45
popeysorry, what application?09:45
aksharpatel47the ubuntu-tour application09:45
popeyi didnt realise ubuntu-tour was making an application09:46
popeysorry09:46
aksharpatel47okay09:46
popeywhere's this documented?09:46
aksharpatel47see the code development branch of it in bazaar09:46
popeyoh okay, sorry, I get it now, the actual tour app itself09:46
popeyI will wake up in a bit :D09:46
popeyignore me09:46
MadnessRed2 new features, i just implemented, you can now launch scripts and interact with python via <a href links16:21
MadnessRedeg: <a href="command://nautilus">click</a> will open the file browser16:21
MadnessRedand <a href="exec://self.delete_event(None,None)">close</a> will quite the program16:22
SilasleNice!!!16:22
SilasleHey, the program isn't accepting lucid  :'(16:28
SilasleThere is an images missing in network-connect (wired.png)16:32
SilasleAlso the title isn't changed when changing chapter16:38
MadnessRedI have redone the check script16:39
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MadnessRedcommited now16:39
Silasle_awaybbl16:39
MadnessRedok16:39
MadnessRedfor distro, and reason why we cand just say if float(version) < float(required):16:40
MadnessRedactually i suppose for distros like 8.04.116:40
MadnessRedI think I found a way of drawing arrows17:37
MadnessRedit's not amazing, but it draws an arrow17:37
MadnessRedhi, is there a function to multiply matrices in python?17:44
MadnessRedor do I need to write one myself?17:44
MadnessRedappears I need to write a function mysql17:58
MadnessRedmyself#17:58
Silasle_awayWhat are matrices?17:58
MadnessRedthey are like a list of numbers in maths17:59
MadnessRedthey are very useful for positions because you have things called a transformation matrix17:59
MadnessRedso, if you multiply the rotation matrix by a matrix of points, you can rotate an entire shape very easily18:00
Silasle_awayI think that is over my mathematic knowledge :P18:02
Silasle_awayTitle is still not changing.18:03
MadnessRedI know, I am trying to make arrows atm18:05
MadnessRedOr more specifically, I am trying to rotate arrows atm18:05
MadnessRedIts a shame numpy isn't included by default :/18:07
Silasle_awayOk, my father explained it.18:13
Silasle_awayIsn't numpy default, i  thought it was?18:14
Silasle_awayMadnessRed: http://www.syntagmatic.net/matrix-multiplication-in-python/ ?18:18
MadnessRedkk thanks, I just made a simple function though :/18:18
MadnessRedWhat colour do we want the arrow to be?18:22
Silasle_awayMaybe the "selected items" color?18:25
MadnessRedok18:26
Silasle_awayIt was the best one i found18:26
Silasle_awayWhat module are you using?18:30
Silasle_awayMadnessRed: ^18:37
MadnessRed? no module18:37
Silasle_awayNo compiz api or something?18:38
MadnessRed:/ I am using a gtk window18:38
Silasle_awayOk...18:38
MadnessRedrendering without a window border and certain shape18:39
Silasle_awayCan gtk be at other shapes then rectangle?18:40
Silasle_awayOr just using transparent window?18:41
MadnessRedgtk can be any shape I think18:43
MadnessRedbut you need to do some weird stuff to it18:43
Silasle_awayDidn't knew that.18:43
MadnessRedbut it looks kind of stupid if you have a window border18:48
Silasle_awayYea, but border can be removed.18:48
MadnessRedyh18:51
MadnessRednow just have to make the window die after a certain time18:57
Silasle_awayThat shouldn't be an problem.18:58
Silasle_awayMadnessRed: An solution is always to use thread...19:01
MadnessRedok, I'll look into it, I got threading to work once before, I'll see if I can uncover the code for it19:02
Silasle_awaythreading is easy19:03
Silasle_awaythread.start_new_thread(function)19:03
MadnessRedok19:03
Silasle_awayAnd then in that function an time.sleep  and then something to kill the window19:04
MadnessRedok, and the module is called thread?19:04
Silasle_awayyep19:05
MadnessRedarrow = Arrow(0,0,None,'#FF0000',-45, 100)19:06
MadnessRedthread.start_new_thread(arrow.die())19:06
MadnessRedgtk.main()19:06
MadnessRedlike that?19:06
Silasle_awayI think so19:07
MadnessRedTypeError: start_new_thread expected at least 2 arguments, got 119:09
MadnessRedoops :/19:09
MadnessRedarrow.die() should be arrow.die19:09
Silasle_awayyep19:09
MadnessRedbut it still wants 2 arguments19:09
Silasle_awayHmm19:09
MadnessRedit just gives the error instantly now19:09
Silasle_awayI check my code19:09
Silasle_awayAhh thread.start_new_thread(arrow.die, ())19:10
Silasle_awayI think that second one is for arguments19:10
MadnessRedkk thanks19:10
Silasle_awayI still dont know how we should get the position of everything if it's not default.19:12
MadnessRedI don't think we can19:12
MadnessRedI think just let arrows be an options, and say, if you have moved your menus then the arrows may not point at the right place19:13
Silasle_awayOk19:13
MadnessRedIt still itsn't working19:14
Silasle_awayWe still need to calculate where the things are according to screen size and things like that.19:14
Silasle_awayBut how much have you done now?19:14
MadnessRedshouldn't be too hard19:14
MadnessRedI will put arrow.py in the main code and push it19:14
MadnessRedat the moment it runs stand alone, but it should run as an import too19:15
MadnessRedthen I'll push and maybe you can see whats wrong with it19:15
Silasle_awayOk, i check what you have done :P19:15
Silasle_awayCant you send me that standalone file?19:15
MadnessRedyes, email?19:16
MadnessRedor pastebin19:16
Silasle_awayWait, unity...19:17
MadnessRed?19:17
MadnessRedwill cause problems19:17
MadnessRedhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/494344/19:17
Silasle_awayhttp://home.silaslenz.operaunite.com/file_inbox/19:17
Silasle_away*unite :P19:18
Silasle_awayThanks19:19
Silasle_awayAh, nice :D19:19
MadnessRedI would like smoother edges but I don't think gtk can do that19:20
Silasle_awayI would like that too...19:20
MadnessRedAlso the way the class opens...19:20
Silasle_awayBut it's good for now19:21
MadnessRed Arrow(X position, Y position, Parent window, Colour, Angle, Size (tip to tail in pixels), TIme it is around for)19:21
MadnessRedAlso did I tell you about the new protocols in html we can use?19:22
Silasle_awayYes19:23
MadnessRedok, I uploaded a file called player.py19:24
MadnessRedthat is part of a media player I made, and the progress bar uses threads, might help in getting the threads to work here19:25
Silasle_awayOk19:25
Silasle_awayI have an video player too :P19:25
MadnessRedanyway i gtg19:25
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MuscovyHello all.23:50
MuscovyHappy birthday to me. :D23:53
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