[00:00] Wait, not to mention the new background. XD [00:02] new background? [00:04] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/the-new-ubuntu-10-10-default-wallpaper/ [00:04] oh right, yh, I though you were talking about ubuntu tour [00:04] did you push the new language stuff? [00:04] Not yet, I'm having to play with it a bit. [00:05] ok [00:05] Becuase of the tourinfo files. [00:05] oh, maybe you should push the current code to the core branch [00:05] I assume it's stable? [00:06] If so, good idea. [00:06] Haven't found any bugs [00:06] Ok, I'll do that. [00:10] Grr. [00:10] People have been editing in the code branch. [00:14] thats one of the things to be addressed at the meeting [00:15] ok [00:15] when is the meeting again [00:17] sat 11am EST [00:17] I'm about to send an email [00:17] unfortunately I am away that whole weekend :/ [00:18] :( [00:19] what do we need to discus? [00:21] http://openetherpad.org/UbuntuTourAgenda [00:21] UI design and organization are the two things I can think of. [00:24] Oh dear. [00:24] I seem to have broke the screenshots. [00:25] yh the branches handle images differently [00:25] Huh? [00:26] Ah, I see what you mean. [00:26] Ok, I'll clean that up. [00:26] They wanted the location that webkit thinks its in to be changed from the root directory to the directory where the files are [00:29] MadnessRed, Muscovy: can we keep discussion in the etherpad minimal? [00:29] sorry :/ [00:29] Right. [00:29] Thats what irc is for after all =P [00:30] hows that :) [00:32] MadnessRed: images/panel_system-menu_open.jpeg is the sort of image path we're using now, right? [00:33] tourname/images/pane_syste... i think [00:34] I think it;s the one I said. [00:35] if you had an image tourname/images/img.png [00:35] you would do [00:36] Hey guys. [00:36] Hey Omega. [00:40] hi [00:40] what is EST? [00:41] Eastern Standard Time [00:43] kk [00:43] It's my birthday tomorrow. :D [00:43] Awesome, congratz. [00:43] Thanks. :D [00:43] Because I know you'll be out partying all day. [00:44] Hehehe not really. [00:44] and night [00:44] :) [00:44] have fun [00:45] Don't think I could be much further from my birthday tbh [00:49] I'm having some issues including images. [00:49] It doesn't see about-ubuntu/images/panel_top.jpeg. [00:50] But yet it sees images/ubuntu-tour-logo.png. [00:50] Both exist. [00:50] And both are notated in the same way. [00:51] hm, [00:52] could you put the images in the tour folder [00:52] images/screenshots? [00:53] thats where they are at the moment [00:53] it appears [00:53] But but but the files I'm pointing it at exist. :| [00:53] hm, can you copy the img tag you are using [00:54] [00:54] it should be: [00:55] [00:55] sorry I probably wasn't clear with my explaination, i though you were asking where to put the images [00:56] Oh ok, that works. [00:56] I thought the current dir was where the application was. [00:56] no, I was asked to change it [00:57] I made a tour called connect to a network [00:57] it's not complete, but it shows how to float images left and right === brandonj changed the topic of #ubuntu-tour to: The Ubuntu Tour Project! | http://ubuntutour.org | http://openetherpad.org/GUNcK2dx75?| Join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tour | Visit the Doodle Poll and pick a time for next week's meeting: http://doodle.com/g54376rwaziahz7q === brandonj changed the topic of #ubuntu-tour to: The Ubuntu Tour Project! | Meeting Saturday, 18 Sept at 11 EST. See http://openetherpad.org/UbuntuTourAgenda for more info | http://ubuntutour.org | Join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tour [01:46] Muscovy, Omega, aprilg: will you three be at the meeting saturday? [01:46] I will be present. [01:48] cool [02:08] brandonj, Omega: I will be. [02:16] excellent [02:42] I don't like it specifically, but the logo someone put on the front page (http://i.imgur.com/KwEVR.png ) is cool. [03:43] hola tour-people [03:46] hi === master5o1 is now known as master5o1|afk === Crisco is now known as zz_Crisco === zz_Crisco is now known as Crisco [04:25] hi [04:25] hi [04:25] Hello. [04:31] Muscovy, regarding ubuntu one in the menu [04:31] I thought their official way of writing it was one word [04:31] like ubuntuone [04:34] appears I am wrong [04:34] one.ubuntu.com [04:34] maybe I was getting confused with the fact that all their branding usually looks small caps [04:38] As far as I know, it's CamelCase. === loonycookie is now known as aprilg [05:06] brandonj regarding the meeting, I'll be there [05:07] me too! === loonycookie is now known as aprilg [05:15] my internet connection sucks. === loonycookie is now known as aprilg [06:49] took screenshots for empathy. some of those need to be edited though. if anyone can help me blur out the names of contacts, that would be excellent :D [06:49] pushing screenshots now to lp:ubuntu-tour images/screenshots/empathy [06:50] aprilg: They should be in emphaty/images/ [06:52] ack [06:52] :( [06:52] I also just pushed evolution images [06:53] Silasle how do I remove revisions? [07:45] aprilg, do you still need the images edited to blur out contacts? [07:46] and I think to remove revisions you uncommit or something but I have never done that === loonycookie is now known as aprilg [09:15] laurent_ hi, regarding the blurred-out contacts, yes please :) [09:15] I didn't have a dummy account I could use so I used my own to get screenshots [09:15] thanks! [09:16] sure thing [09:21] aprilg, did you want the users avatars blurred too? [09:24] yes please :) [09:29] are there any other images that you want anything done to or just the empathy contacts? [09:31] the conversation window has a name also, I think [09:31] thanks so much for this :) I really have no idea about editing images [09:31] :) [09:42] read the details regarding the meeting agendas on the etherpad [09:42] I think there is one more agenda we need to add [09:43] about programming language that will be used [09:43] I know python is given on the homepage of ubuntu [09:44] just thought we should discuss and make it final [09:44] what are your thoughts people? [09:45] programming language for what? [09:45] the application ofcourse [09:45] sorry, what application? [09:45] the ubuntu-tour application [09:46] i didnt realise ubuntu-tour was making an application [09:46] sorry [09:46] okay [09:46] where's this documented? [09:46] see the code development branch of it in bazaar [09:46] oh okay, sorry, I get it now, the actual tour app itself [09:46] I will wake up in a bit :D [09:46] ignore me [16:21] 2 new features, i just implemented, you can now launch scripts and interact with python via eg: click will open the file browser [16:22] and close will quite the program [16:22] Nice!!! [16:28] Hey, the program isn't accepting lucid :'( [16:32] There is an images missing in network-connect (wired.png) [16:38] Also the title isn't changed when changing chapter [16:39] I have redone the check script === Silasle is now known as Silasle_away [16:39] commited now [16:39] bbl [16:39] ok [16:40] for distro, and reason why we cand just say if float(version) < float(required): [16:40] actually i suppose for distros like 8.04.1 [17:37] I think I found a way of drawing arrows [17:37] it's not amazing, but it draws an arrow [17:44] hi, is there a function to multiply matrices in python? [17:44] or do I need to write one myself? [17:58] appears I need to write a function mysql [17:58] myself# [17:58] What are matrices? [17:59] they are like a list of numbers in maths [17:59] they are very useful for positions because you have things called a transformation matrix [18:00] so, if you multiply the rotation matrix by a matrix of points, you can rotate an entire shape very easily [18:02] I think that is over my mathematic knowledge :P [18:03] Title is still not changing. [18:05] I know, I am trying to make arrows atm [18:05] Or more specifically, I am trying to rotate arrows atm [18:07] Its a shame numpy isn't included by default :/ [18:13] Ok, my father explained it. [18:14] Isn't numpy default, i thought it was? [18:18] MadnessRed: http://www.syntagmatic.net/matrix-multiplication-in-python/ ? [18:18] kk thanks, I just made a simple function though :/ [18:22] What colour do we want the arrow to be? [18:25] Maybe the "selected items" color? [18:26] ok [18:26] It was the best one i found [18:30] What module are you using? [18:37] MadnessRed: ^ [18:37] ? no module [18:38] No compiz api or something? [18:38] :/ I am using a gtk window [18:38] Ok... [18:39] rendering without a window border and certain shape [18:40] Can gtk be at other shapes then rectangle? [18:41] Or just using transparent window? [18:43] gtk can be any shape I think [18:43] but you need to do some weird stuff to it [18:43] Didn't knew that. [18:48] but it looks kind of stupid if you have a window border [18:48] Yea, but border can be removed. [18:51] yh [18:57] now just have to make the window die after a certain time [18:58] That shouldn't be an problem. [19:01] MadnessRed: An solution is always to use thread... [19:02] ok, I'll look into it, I got threading to work once before, I'll see if I can uncover the code for it [19:03] threading is easy [19:03] thread.start_new_thread(function) [19:03] ok [19:04] And then in that function an time.sleep and then something to kill the window [19:04] ok, and the module is called thread? [19:05] yep [19:06] arrow = Arrow(0,0,None,'#FF0000',-45, 100) [19:06] thread.start_new_thread(arrow.die()) [19:06] gtk.main() [19:06] like that? [19:07] I think so [19:09] TypeError: start_new_thread expected at least 2 arguments, got 1 [19:09] oops :/ [19:09] arrow.die() should be arrow.die [19:09] yep [19:09] but it still wants 2 arguments [19:09] Hmm [19:09] it just gives the error instantly now [19:09] I check my code [19:10] Ahh thread.start_new_thread(arrow.die, ()) [19:10] I think that second one is for arguments [19:10] kk thanks [19:12] I still dont know how we should get the position of everything if it's not default. [19:12] I don't think we can [19:13] I think just let arrows be an options, and say, if you have moved your menus then the arrows may not point at the right place [19:13] Ok [19:14] It still itsn't working [19:14] We still need to calculate where the things are according to screen size and things like that. [19:14] But how much have you done now? [19:14] shouldn't be too hard [19:14] I will put arrow.py in the main code and push it [19:15] at the moment it runs stand alone, but it should run as an import too [19:15] then I'll push and maybe you can see whats wrong with it [19:15] Ok, i check what you have done :P [19:15] Cant you send me that standalone file? [19:16] yes, email? [19:16] or pastebin [19:17] Wait, unity... [19:17] ? [19:17] will cause problems [19:17] http://paste.ubuntu.com/494344/ [19:17] http://home.silaslenz.operaunite.com/file_inbox/ [19:18] *unite :P [19:19] Thanks [19:19] Ah, nice :D [19:20] I would like smoother edges but I don't think gtk can do that [19:20] I would like that too... [19:20] Also the way the class opens... [19:21] But it's good for now [19:21] Arrow(X position, Y position, Parent window, Colour, Angle, Size (tip to tail in pixels), TIme it is around for) [19:22] Also did I tell you about the new protocols in html we can use? [19:23] Yes [19:24] ok, I uploaded a file called player.py [19:25] that is part of a media player I made, and the progress bar uses threads, might help in getting the threads to work here [19:25] Ok [19:25] I have an video player too :P [19:25] anyway i gtg === Silasle_away is now known as Silasle === daker_ is now known as daker === loonycookie1 is now known as aprilg === Crisco is now known as zz_Crisco [23:50] Hello all. [23:53] Happy birthday to me. :D === zz_Crisco is now known as Crisco