[00:00] <kyan> Hello ! I've accidentally created an invisible, autohidden panel and can't delete it.
[00:00] <kyan> Any suggestions?
[00:00] <kyan> (Ubuntu 10.04
[00:00] <CyL> DasEi: Sure, I'll google translate it...
[00:00] <bstarek> my ubuntu is great.....unless it doesnt do what i ask it to do!!! :)......i am trying to uninstall mysql server but it wont do it! anybody please?
[00:00] <DasEi> rypervenche: what you could do is to compres that winparty and then split and burn it to dvd's
[00:01] <Galaxor> So my question:  I have a wireless card that's connected to the network.  I'm trying to make this available over a bridge.  I've tried bridging it with my wired card, and now I'm bridging it to a machine in virtualbox.  In virtualbox, if I set the IP manually, it works, but if I try to use DHCP, the DHCP server will not respond to me.  What gives?
[00:01] <Tempus_Fugit> Can someone check my syntax:     mv -t "*fire" >> ~/Documents/intrusion?     intrusion? is a dir ....and I want 3 .txt files to go into that dir
[00:01] <DasEi> cyl : or ask me saurkraut, link : http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/USB_ModeSwitch
[00:02] <sjm> bstarek, what does "aptitude purge mysql-server-5.1" do?
[00:02] <maco> Tempus_Fugit: get rid of that >>
[00:02] <maco> Tempus_Fugit: >> is output redirection for files, it means append
[00:02] <wizzle>  hi all. i have printer canon iP1880 and i using lucid, the question is how to set up this printer. i have no problem before with hp printer. but for this time, something like CUSP error when i try to do test print. so anyone help me?
[00:02] <Tempus_Fugit> maco: ok cool ty
[00:02] <smokie> how to find out if the version of ubuntu im running supports IPv6 or not? anyone?
[00:03] <bstarek> sjm, thanks for taking the time to answer.....i think its working just give me 5 minutes please
[00:03] <versuchsanstalt> i have to turn a ubuntu box into a double boot machine. when i set up something like this a few years ago, the way to go was to install the plague first, and my favourite distro afterwards. no brainer, always worked. what do i have to keep in mind when installing the plague after ubuntu? make a grub floppy and... then?
 Thanx 4 ur help it worked!
[00:04] <tgp1994> DasEi: Thank you, that's seemed to work :)
[00:05] <DasEi> Tempus_Fugit: sudo cp -R *fire ~/Documents/intrusion/
[00:05] <DasEi> tgp1994: nice to hear, have fun
[00:05] <Syniphas> hey, can someone help me with x?
[00:05] <Syniphas> startx returns "no screens found"
[00:05] <sjm> versuchsanstalt, just follow this after you install Windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[00:05] <DasEi> Tempus_Fugit: then check if it's there, and rm -r the old ones, if you like
[00:05] <versuchsanstalt> sjm: yeah, thank you. that's what i was looking for. great!
[00:06] <DasEi> rm=remove, gone forever, Tempus_Fugit
[00:06] <Tempus_Fugit> DasEi: will cp leave the original file?? cut I pretty much want to just mv them not cp so does that do the same thing
[00:06] <Galaxor> versuchsanstalt: It doesn't have to be a floppy.  I usually dump the bootsector into a file on the drive somewhere.  Then, after installing nonsense, I reboot using a cd or something, and dump the bootsector back.
[00:06] <ugliefrog> does anyone here know how to delete files off a microsd card permanently?....i have tried for the last few days to remove them, however when I reload the card all files are back on it
[00:07] <versuchsanstalt> Galaxor: yup. i think i'll use usb media. thank you.
[00:07] <Tempus_Fugit> DasEi:  ok got it just figured I could do it all in one motion
[00:07] <sjm> ugliefrog, use dd to overwrite them?
[00:07] <DasEi> Tempus_Fugit: it will, but it's nice to check first if everything worked right, and also rsync and cp have directory (r) functionaltiy whereas mv hasn't
[00:07] <ugliefrog> sjm, what do you mean dd to overwrite them
[00:07] <Tempus_Fugit> DasEi:  ok good to know ty
[00:08] <DasEi> Tempus_Fugit: you can line single commands by &&, but then have no way to check beforehands
[00:08] <bstarek> sjm, i think it has worked and dont ask how because i have no idea what happened i have trying to uninstall this for 3 days now! :)
[00:08] <sjm> ugliefrog, as in "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<your SD card>"
[00:08] <bstarek> sjm, i gonna try to install LAMP now, i will let you know if i have any problem! thank u!
[00:08] <sjm> bstarek, you might also want to try to run "apt-get autoremove" to see if there are any orphaned packages.
[00:09] <bstarek> sjm, sure i will!
[00:09] <sjm> bstarek, but that is one thing that aptitude is better at than apt-get, but they still might be around if installed with apt-get rather than aptitude.
[00:09] <kyan> How can I use the terminal to delete panels?
[00:10] <bstarek> sjm, i always use apt-get i thought i was the same as aptitude
[00:10] <Emanon> hows banshee doing lately havent tried it in like 6 months
[00:11] <xangua> kyan: why do you want to delete the panels¿ if you do you will loss the ability to use menu (alt+f1) and launcher(alt+f2)
[00:11] <xangua> Emanon: why don't you install it and see by yourself¿ looks nice but i have always preffer rhythmbox
[00:11] <kyan> I only want to delete one, on the left. I created it, but it seems a bug has made it invisible. I can't see it or edit it.
[00:12] <kyan> It acts like a 24-px wide area of my desktop where windows won't stay.
[00:12] <sjm> bstarek, do a google search on "apt-get vs aptitude" and you'll see some of the differences.  I usually use aptitude.
[00:13] <taget> Does anyone know how i could run my irc client on a remote machine that is always on and then connect to it from other devices. I would like to have my irc client always running. Any ideas ?
[00:13] <versuchsanstalt> Galaxor: btw, dumping back the old boot sector will not make the newly installed plague bootable... ;-) good suggestion anyways, you reminded me of dd. thanks for that.
[00:13] <bstarek> sjm, allright i do that thanks!
[00:13] <Datz> DasEi: ok.. all old kernel entries still on list. should I just manually edit /boot/grub/grub.cfv?
[00:13] <kyan> xangua : It acts like a 24-px wide area of my desktop where windows won't stay.
[00:13] <renedox> taget: use ssh, screen and irssi
[00:13] <CyL> DasEi: I managed to get it workinbg using gnomeppp... thanks very much for your help and effort
[00:14] <xangua> kyan: pkill gnome-panel ; it should start again
[00:14] <versuchsanstalt> taget: renedox's suggestion is good.
[00:14] <taget> renedox: Thanks, ill go do somemore googling
[00:14] <Datz> taget: yep perfect idea, it's what I do too :)
[00:14] <Datz> idea renedox has
[00:14] <renedox> taget: which of the three do you need help with? we can probably help
[00:14] <kyan> Thanks. Works now.
[00:14] <DasEi> Datz: no, one drive only in the box ?
[00:15] <Datz> DasEi: 3, but only two with OS's
[00:15] <th3wind> hello
[00:15] <taget> renedox: Appreciate it. i have ssh up and running already on my server. but not irssi or screen. how do you connect to a specific session when sshing into a server
[00:15] <th3wind> i am triple booting with windows 7, ubuntu 10.04 and osx 10.5.5  - Ever since grub was installed I have not been able to get into my OSX installation. My windows 7 and Ubuntu installations work fine though. Any help?
[00:16] <renedox> taget: "screen -r <sessionname>"
[00:16] <versuchsanstalt> taget: use screen -D -R when you try to reattach (-R) to an old session. -D will detach any other old attached screen you might have forgotten about.
[00:16] <taget> i may be using incorrect terminology, please correct me if im wrong
[00:16] <Datz> DasEi: I had to edit it once already.. to change uuid of a disk.. I don't know if that would be causing problems
[00:16] <DasEi> Datz: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/default/grub
[00:16] <Datz> DasEi: ok
 I have just installed ubuntu and its being very very, lets say extremely slow. -- I mean it took me 5 minutes just to type this message out lol. I dont have that slow of a computer :(
[00:16] <ems> oops did not mean to type <ems>
[00:16] <versuchsanstalt> taget: login using ssh, then start screen.
[00:17] <ems> Any ideas
[00:17] <dominicdinada> problem, on an external drive. it is saying that the drive is full... as i filled it up. This was like a week ago. I deleted a good 300 mb and emptied the trash in that same session but when i try to copy new files to the flash drive I am still getting No space. Even though on the status bar it reports about 337mb free
[00:17] <taget> versuchsanstalt: ahh, gotcha. where does the session name come from? or is that going to be more apparent as i get this set up
[00:17] <Datz> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/z4ce8D70
[00:18] <renedox> taget: personal preference but I like to assign screen sessions with a name so it's easier to restore
[00:18] <intrader> ems, is it like bug 631130? I as well have slowness issue with 10.04 (actually since trying 9.10)
[00:18] <versuchsanstalt> taget: if you only need one screen session on the machine, you don't need no session names when using -R (and -D if there is an old dangling one...)
[00:18] <th3wind> i am triple booting with windows 7, ubuntu 10.04 and osx 10.5.5  - Ever since grub was installed I have not been able to get into my OSX installation. My windows 7 and Ubuntu installations work fine though. Any help?
[00:18] <renedox> taget: so something like "screen -a -S irc" then just "screen -r irc" to restore
[00:18] <ani__helloo> hello to all,i have installed ubuntu and i had 2 partitions c ,d ,i install ubuntu ,but now i dont know how to open the D partition?
[00:18] <dominicdinada> problem, on an external drive. it is saying that the drive is full... as i filled it up. This was like a week ago. I deleted a good 300 mb and emptied the trash in that same session but when i try to copy new files to the flash drive I am still getting No space. Even though on the status bar it reports about 337mb free
[00:18] <Azjo> hi, how do i install ubuntu from wubi, from my cd drive? i do NOT want to download.
[00:18] <DasEi> Datz: sudo fdisk -l                   , which is the drive where grub shall sit ?
[00:18] <ems> intrader, i have no ideabut it takes me 3 min just to open "Applications"
[00:18] <versuchsanstalt> taget: i use only one session on my machine and always fire up screen -D -R
[00:19] <taget> renedox: Cool, thanks all for the help. Gonna try and give this a shot
[00:19] <renedox> taget: run "screen -ls" to see all screen sessions and their names
[00:19] <versuchsanstalt> taget: (detach old, reattach or start new session)
[00:19] <versuchsanstalt> taget: ... plus the info rededox is offering.
[00:19] <Datz> DasEi: ok, done
[00:20] <DasEi> Datz: device for grub ?
[00:20] <intrader> ems, that is too slow - I have to guess, but perhaps instead of reaching to the local drive, you are going to the cloud
[00:20] <xangua> Azjo: yes, wubi is incluided in the cd; run it from windows session
[00:20] <versuchsanstalt> taget: screen is great. you will love it.
[00:20] <ems> intrader, how is that possible? Its on my hard drive.
[00:20] <Azjo> xangua: it starts downloading after copying content from cd.
[00:20] <Datz> DasEi: sda1
[00:21] <xangua> Azjo: it shouldn't
[00:21] <taget> versuchsanstalt: is screen installed by default, or does it go by a different package name ?
[00:21] <Azjo> well, its useless then ;)
[00:21] <versuchsanstalt> taget: ah, and if you want to leave and keep the session open, just ctrl-a ctrl-d to detach from the current session. then log out as always
[00:21] <imperfect-> Anyone here running 10.4.1 on Asus P6T?
[00:21] <versuchsanstalt> taget: i guess the package is called screen
[00:21] <DasEi> Datz: sudo apt-get remove --purge grub* --dry run             , look if other then grub-stuff would be removed
[00:21] <imperfect-> My sound card appears to be detected just fine but I'm not getting any sound and it hurts my feelings.
[00:21] <versuchsanstalt> taget: check it out :-)
[00:21] <Datz> renedox: what am I missing out on but not running -a option in screen?
[00:21] <Datz> DasEi: ok
[00:21] <nullox> hi, how can I find the partition integer for /dev/sda1 for grub configuration
[00:21] <DasEi> Datz: last cmd will just simulate it
[00:22] <intrader> ems, maybe you are still on the CD?, or the mount table is incorrect for some reason? Just guessing.
[00:22] <nullox> (hd0, /dev/sda1 INT)
[00:22] <DasEi> nullox: you mean the uuid ?
[00:22] <DasEi> nullox:sudo blkid
[00:22] <nullox> is that what you call it
[00:22] <ems> intrader, any ideas on how i can remedy this awwful problem
[00:22] <Datz> DasEi: --dry is not understood
[00:22] <nullox> the int for the second argument required by grub
[00:22] <th3wind> anyone know anything about multiple os booting and grub?
[00:22] <DasEi> Datz: sudo apt-get remove --purge grub* --dry-run             , typo
[00:22] <intrader> ems, reinstall?
[00:23] <DasEi> th3wind: ask more detailded
[00:23] <th3wind> i am triple booting with windows 7, ubuntu 10.04 and osx 10.5.5  - Ever since grub was installed I have not been able to get into my OSX installation. My windows 7 and Ubuntu installations work fine though. Any help?
[00:23] <Fudge> anyone know how to get dummy video driver to work rightr?
[00:23] <th3wind> there is more detailed
[00:23] <Datz> DasEi: folling packages will be removed: grub* grub-common*
[00:23] <ems> intrader, i guess i will have to try that lol
[00:23] <DasEi> th3wind: try install and run os-prober
[00:23] <nullox> DasEi: that gives a long hex string delimited with -
[00:23] <fluvvell> ems, do you have processes running that need stopped?
[00:23] <nullox> hardly what I consider an integer
[00:23] <renedox> Datz: only a few minor things which you may or may not use, mostly terminal functionality, I believe
[00:23] <DasEi> Datz: sudo apt-get remove --purge grub*
[00:24] <thecake> hey guys sorry for the stupid question i googled it already all over. What is the command line command for mouse click and movement controls?
[00:24] <DasEi> !blkid | nullox
[00:24] <Datz> renedox: ah, ok thank.. I'll try with -a option next time :)
[00:24] <intrader> ems, let us know - make sure you save any info you have before formatting
[00:24] <fluvvell> ems, the system monitor can show you if a program is running at 90% of the cpu and taking up all your power
[00:24] <th3wind> DasEi: i looked in synaptec and I have os-prober installed
[00:24] <renedox> Datz: no problem ^^
[00:24] <Crankygeek> Can anyone explain to me how to install a SSL Cert? I have already requested it and have the cert, just not sure how to import it
[00:24] <Datz> DasEi: should I go ahead with it?
[00:24] <DasEi> nullox: grub 2 identifies partitons by this, as fstab does, though still understands devicenames
[00:24] <ems> fluvvell, i dont think so. i just installed ubuntu and it acted like this so i immediately went on the web. and nothing. perhaps it is my video display drivers but i downloaded the drivers.run file but no idea how to run a run file lol. so cant test it
[00:24] <nullox> I'm using legacy 0.97
[00:25] <ems> fluvvell, ill check right now, give me 15 minutes. literally :(
[00:25] <DasEi> Datz: yes
[00:25] <versuchsanstalt> thecake: xev?
[00:25] <Datz> DasEi: I don't want to lose my win7 boot option.. but..
[00:25] <Datz> going ahead
[00:25] <th3wind> DasEi: i also tried running update-grub
[00:25] <Datz> can always be added back
[00:25] <thecake> versuchsanstalt, yes thats it thank you so much.
[00:25] <versuchsanstalt> thecake: you're welcome
[00:25] <DasEi> Datz: or backub the cfg if not too late
[00:26] <rypervenche> DasEi: Hmm, it looks like doing a system clone is going to take a long time. I really only wanted to do it to put on someone elses computer if they wanted, seeing as I payed for the thing. I suppose I could just torrent an ISO for that then use my key, huh?
[00:26] <Datz> DasEi: hehe, too late.. but no prob
[00:26] <DasEi> rypervenche: ask ms..
[00:26] <ems> fluvvell, nope not even clsoe
[00:26] <Azjo> so how do i tell wubi to NOT get the same iso that it has just copied from cd?
[00:27] <DasEi> Datz: sudo apt-get install grub-pc
[00:27] <fluvvell> ems, so when you say slow, what are you doing right now ?
[00:27] <ems> xchat
[00:27] <ems> lol
[00:28] <fluvvell> ems, which video adapter?
[00:28] <DasEi> Datz: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[00:28] <Crankygeek> Can anyone explain to me how to install a SSL Cert? I have already requested it and have the cert, just not sure how to import it
[00:28] <th3wind> so is there anything I can do (to grub, in ubuntu) to get my osx installation working again from the grub boot menu?
[00:28] <fluvvell> ems. yes xchat :-)
[00:28] <Evil_saltine> th3wind: does OSX appear in the grub menu?
[00:28] <ems> fluvvell, ati radeon x700. i dont think drivers are installed that is why the frames arent coming in so quick i am wrong could be
[00:28] <th3wind> Evil_saltine: yes
[00:28] <Datz> DasEi: ah, perfect -> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[00:28] <Datz> thanks a bunch DasEi
[00:28] <Evil_saltine> th3wind: Does grub give an error when you try to boot OSX?
[00:28] <Jordan_U> th3wind: Try asking in #grub.
[00:28] <fluvvell> ems, have you used the restricted drives program ?
[00:29] <ems> fluvvell, no because i dont know what that is
[00:29] <DasEi> th3wind: sory, I never had a licence for osx
[00:29] <fluvvell> ems, System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[00:29] <th3wind> Evil_saltine: yes, I get an error - file not found and also something about the kernel (sorry I didn't write it down)
[00:29] <tgp1994> DasEi: Oh dear :( After trying to mount the cd after I burned an image to it, it still fails to mount.
[00:30] <nullox> DasEi: thanks that uuid string works
[00:30] <Evil_saltine> th3wind: Jordan_U is right, asking in #grub is a good idea
[00:30] <th3wind> DasEi: it's ok, no need to be 'sory'
[00:30] <th3wind> will do
[00:30] <ems> fluvvell,  nothing is listed in there. "No proprietery drivers are in this sytem"
[00:30] <DasEi> Datz: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:31] <versuchsanstalt> th3wind: maybe try again before asking in #grub and write down the error message... ;-)
[00:31] <DasEi> Datz: entries look correct ?
[00:31] <DasEi> Datz: just to check, nothing to edit here
[00:31] <Datz> DasEi: yes, except I like to have win7 boot by default.
[00:32] <Datz> Although I guess changing the order of that list isn't the proper way, but it's what I've done before
[00:32] <ems> How do I run a .run script? Better yet, how do I reset my root password? :(
[00:32] <DasEi> tgp1994: try by a gui then, sudo apt-get install k3b
[00:32] <Datz> I forget proper way now..
[00:32] <ems> fluvvell, i am so dumb with this right now i hate being new
[00:32] <vfw> ems: ./file-to-run
[00:32] <renedox> ems: ./name-of-script.run
[00:32] <Datz> someting about changing order of numbers of items in /boot or something.. ?
[00:33] <DasEi> datz: no problem, which entry is it ? the 2nd.. or .. ?
[00:33] <vfw> ems: But may need to chmod +x file-to-run #First
[00:33] <Datz> DasEi: it's last
[00:33] <DasEi> Datz: we need the number
[00:33] <fluvvell> ems, you won't have a root password, you will have admin permissions on your own user. its better
[00:33] <Datz> DasEi: actually I may be wrong..
[00:34] <vfw> !root > ems
[00:34] <tgp1994> DasEi: Ok, thanks.
[00:34] <fluvvell> ems, any super user (root) commands can be run with   sudo   in front of them
[00:34] <DasEi> !sudo
[00:34] <ems> fluvvell, ok because i do su ad it asks for one
[00:34] <ems> and then it says incorrect
[00:34] <ems> i get so mad
[00:34] <Datz> DasEi: actually I believe it is first somehow.. that's not usual behavior from what I've seen in the past
[00:34] <tgp1994> DasEi: Well, actually, I'd need one for GNOME. Do you happen to know of one that works in gnome, other than gnomebaker?
[00:34] <fluvvell> ems, its your own user password
[00:34] <versuchsanstalt> ems: newly created files are not executable by default, hence the chmod advice. and the current working directory is not searched for executable files, that's why you need to specify the path, like /home/username/script or ./script
[00:34] <renedox> ems: it's "sudo" not "su"
[00:34] <fluvvell> ^^
[00:34] <vfw> ems: you only have user password.  If you really need to login as root do  sudo su -
[00:34] <lapsa> switched from Fedora to Ubuntu. how to mount lvm2? following this (http://bit.ly/XF3zt) guide, but on step 5 'vgscan' returns nothing. any help?
[00:35] <renedox> ems: alternatively, you can do "sudo -i" and you'll stay in root
[00:35] <fluvvell> ems, what they said!
[00:35] <renedox> but it isn't recommended
[00:35] <DasEi> tgp1994: k3b works fine for me under gnome, also there is brasero (which failed me two times)
[00:35] <vfw> ems: But ubuntu is designed in such a way that it is not really necessary.
[00:35] <ems> Ok thanks! fluvvell, back to my original problem, sorry if you dont want to help just tell me to stfu i will understand
[00:35] <Datz> DasEi: I'm going to reboot to get to VM that needs fixing now :).. Thanks for the help regarding grub. ;)
[00:35] <NOMADICUS> Are any of you familiar with ArtistX?  Is it officially supported by Ubuntu?
[00:35] <ems> vfw, thats good then! i was just asking
[00:36] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  no what is that?  and do you have link?
[00:36] <vfw> ems: NP - FYI...
[00:36] <fluvvell> ems, its ok I was just ditto -ing the other guys comments :-)
[00:36] <DasEi> Datz: for changin default grub, edit /etc/default/grub, there entries count from 0 up, change the line default=n to according number, if needed
[00:36] <fluvvell> ems, but before you try installing a .run file,  its worth trying to figure whats broken
[00:36] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  got link and looking at it now
[00:36] <versuchsanstalt> ems: your user is in the "wheel" group. users in the wheel group may use sudo to execute specified commands as root (or other user). if you "sudo su" you use that mechanism to switch to root. that's good enough for almost any circumstance you will face.
[00:36] <fluvvell> ems, before potentially breaking something else
[00:37] <ems> fluvvell, the .run file is the ati drivers. so it worked on windows i was having a slow issue then i installed, and it was fine, so it might be in linux casee too
[00:37] <coz_> NOMADICUS,   actually it looks like most of the artistx components are in  ubuntu-studio
[00:37] <DasEi> Datz: there you can also change gruns behaviour in a way, you see the bootable before it wents on
[00:37] <ems> fluvvell, but.. Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
[00:37] <ems> default:v2:i686:lib::none:2.6.32-24-generic; make sure that the version is being
[00:37] <ems> correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[00:37] <ems> Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.liSHzp
[00:37] <FloodBot4> ems: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:37] <ems> sorry FloodBot1
[00:37] <DasEi> (the difefrent os'es and kernels), Datz
[00:37] <ems> FloodBot4 *
[00:38] <renedox> ems: try looking for an ATI repository first, instead of using the .run file
[00:38]  * DasEi returns to some homework now
[00:38] <foul_owl> i'm having problems with my wireless card. i have a linksys wusb54g. it worked with windows machines. ubuntu finds the drivers and detects my access point, but times out when trying to connect. i have no idea how to even see what the problem might be
[00:38] <renedox> ems: that way, when an updated driver becomes available, it will tell you automatically
[00:38] <Datz> DasEi: thanks, making a note. Hehe, funny thing about boot order.. I was right both times. There are two entries for win7. One first, and one last :P
[00:39] <versuchsanstalt> couldn't anybody program FloodBot4 to say "nevermind" or something friendly? that'd be so nice.
[00:39] <rypervenche> Oh, I have another netbook question for anyone available. I want to use the desktop version of Lucid on my netbook, but I'm not sure if I'll be losing out on anything by not installing the netbook version. Any ideas/comments?
[00:39] <mfz2008> hey friends after I update to ubuntu10 ,it give me "can't open root device uuid=xxxx"
[00:39] <NOMADICUS> coz_; I have installed ArtistX and it seems potentially more appealing than Ubuntu Studio.
[00:39] <tbr> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a friends machine but after the purple screen with the little icons at the bottom I get a message box that pops up with "/casqer/vmlinuz". I have tried three different LiveCDs and two DVD drives. I'm now leaning toward a bad RAM module. Does anyone know anything other than bad RAM that might cause this?
[00:39] <xangua> !maverick > mfz2008
[00:39] <sebsebseb> rypervenche: uhmm
[00:39] <tbr> Oh and I once did make it to the initial cd menu and every selection would pop up the same message box
[00:39] <NOMADICUS> coz_; I have not installed the most recent Ubuntu Studio though.
[00:39] <DasEi> Datz: you can also tell grub howmany entries to keep at all
[00:39] <xangua> mmm were you refering to 10.04 or 10.10 mfz2008¿
[00:39] <sebsebseb> rypervenche: go with the netbook for 10.04, and then I guess upgrade it to 10.10 when thats released and try Unity
[00:40] <tgp1994> DasEi: I think I'd have to download a bunch of KDE libraries that I really don't want.
[00:40] <NOMADICUS> coz_; Last I tried it was years ago.
[00:40] <vfw> tbr: Run mentest
[00:40] <versuchsanstalt> tbr: it's never a bad idea to use memtest.
[00:40] <DasEi> Datz:again in /etc/defalt/grub
[00:40] <ems> renedox, i cant do a ******* thing right now because of this problem let alone look for one. lol no offense im just really mad
[00:40] <Datz> DasEi: by deleting and entry?
[00:40] <mfz2008> 10.04
[00:40] <rypervenche> sebsebseb: What do I get extra in the netbook version that I don't in the desktop version? I heard some people say it's basically the same thing.
[00:40] <versuchsanstalt> memtest is on the install cd, isnt it?
[00:40] <DasEi> Datz:again in /etc/defalt/grub,  option howmany
[00:40] <tbr> There's no memtest in the BIOS and i can't get the livecd menu to run it off the CD
[00:40] <will> I'm trying to do the LiveCD Customization.  Every time I get to this step 'sudo unsquashfs mnt/casper/filesystem.squashfs'   my VM crashes.   I'm guessing it is RAM related.  How much RAM does this command need?
[00:41] <Datz> DasEi: ok, I'll be sure to check it out.. booted to win7 now though.. time for a look at the networking..
[00:41] <sebsebseb> rypervenche: 10.04 netbook and desktop are basically the same thing, but for 10.10 this won't be quite the case, since a new netbook look
[00:41] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  ah ok... if you look at the applications on artistx and compare to ubuntu-studio I think they are quite similar and you can always install them on regular ubuntu or better still Edubuntu
[00:41] <ehcah> Can anyone make a reccomendation on creating an extremely light bootable ubuntu desktop install from USB Pen Drive?
[00:41] <DasEi> Datz:afterwards run sudo update-grub
[00:41] <vfw> rypervenche: It's not the same.  And personally, I would just install normal Ubuntu, (unless you have small HD).
[00:41] <sebsebseb> rypervenche: actsaully the netbook version is in a way nicer than the desktop for 10.04.
[00:41] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  although this version of artistx is aug 2010  so it is recent
[00:41] <rypervenche> sebsebseb: I don't like the interface at all in the netbook version.
[00:41] <mfz2008> xangua: 10.04
[00:42] <vfw> ehcah: CLI only?
[00:42] <sebsebseb> rypervenche: lets go pm, since we'll get a bit off topic
[00:42] <xangua> ehcah: lubuntu ¿
[00:42] <rypervenche> sebsebseb: I plan on using my netbook was my main computer. I like normal usage.
[00:42] <rypervenche> sebsebseb: Ok.
[00:42] <Datz> DasEi: k, thanks, adding that to note. ;)
[00:42] <will> how much RAM does 'unsquashfs' need?
[00:42] <ehcah> vfw: yes.
[00:42] <ems> fluvvell, did you leave?
[00:42] <ehcah> vfw: it for an HTPC install.
[00:42] <foul_owl> i'm having problems with my wireless card. i have a linksys wusb54g. it worked with windows machines. ubuntu finds the drivers and detects my access point, but times out when trying to connect. i have no idea how to even see what the problem might be
[00:43] <kbot6789> hi guys got a question about a game
[00:43] <vfw> HTPC ?
[00:43] <sebsebseb> rypervenche: got the message?
[00:43] <ZekeS> I dont think CLI only would be good for a Home Theater PC
[00:43] <ehcah> vfw: Home Theater COmputer
[00:43] <fluvvell> ems, sorry - phone call in
[00:43] <ems> fluvvell, ok dude its ok np
[00:44] <ehcah> I've been trying to get xbmc live installed, but it won't from USB?
[00:44] <renedox> ems: patience is the key :P what about switching to terminal and doing things from there? at least it'll respond faster
[00:44] <DasEi> Datz: I've got some work to do here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/grub2  tells all , the mega-note ;-)
[00:44] <versuchsanstalt> foul_owl: did you find some error log messages, like in dmesg or some like that?
[00:44] <coz_> kbot6789,  which game?
[00:44] <mfz2008> kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[00:44]  * Datz looks
[00:44] <versuchsanstalt> foul_owl: ...beyond "timing out"?
[00:44] <kbot6789> warzone 2100
[00:45] <coz_> kbot6789, oh ok i have never used that one sorry
[00:45] <ems> renedox, well im not being mean, but youre right, but what kind of OS is ubuntu if this happens
[00:45] <kbot6789> i know thare are linux updates i just donot know how to install them
[00:45] <NOMADICUS> coz_; I also recently discovered a distro from Distro Watch called Uber Studet which is apparently not yet officially under the Ubuntu family tree but is built off of the Ubuntu base. http://www.uberstudent.org/
[00:45] <foul_owl> hmm one sec
[00:45] <Datz> DasEi: if I see what you mean, yes.. looks like some work
[00:45] <renedox> ems: it's not the OS, it's a combination of choice of hardware and ATI drivers
[00:46] <renedox> ems: you say it happens under windows too
[00:46] <fluvvell> ems, if the slowness is indeed in your graphics card,
[00:46] <foul_owl> ok i got something here
[00:46] <ems> renedox, i think i really do i just need to get these drivers on here
[00:46] <ems> renedox, but they wont install ~_`
[00:46] <ems> renedox, i get an error
[00:46] <tbr> vfw, versuchsanstalt, holy ball. finally made it to memtest. never seen so many red lines scoll on the screen at once. 100,000 errors and climbing. thanks for the advice
[00:47] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  this looks interesting if just to compare with Edubuntu
[00:47] <jlebar> I'm trying to install Jaunty into a VM (so I can test gcc 4.3.3), and it's hanging at "configuring shared-mime-info".  What's going on?
[00:47] <foul_owl> looks like: "wlan0: deauthenticating from (mac address) by local choice, reason=3"
[00:47] <renedox> ems: can you pastebin the error so we can see what it is?
[00:47] <ems> renedox, that will take awhile but yea i can
[00:47] <versuchsanstalt> tbr: oops. so get new ram!
[00:47] <demonspork> on Ubuntu 10.04, I have a server w/ 700mhz celeron that responds very snappily when I log in via SSH, and then a server with dual 2.4Gz 2 core xeon procs and d it seems to lag when attempting to access it via SSH and it also lags for a few seconds when do other various tasks. Anytithing processing intensive goes at a an expected high rate, but some things just randomly ladelay for about 10 seconds
[00:47] <xangua> jlebar: are you concious that jaunty will stop being supported shortly¿
[00:47] <fluvvell> ems, can you check if you have xserver-xorg-video-radeon   installed?
[00:48] <renedox> ems: great, if I miss it, I'm sure others here won't and may be able to help
[00:48] <ems> fluvvell, how
[00:48] <versuchsanstalt> foul_owl: i don't know the answer to your question, but google could.
[00:48] <jlebar> xangua, I'm just trying to see if an issue I'm observing is caused by a bug that was fixed between gcc 4.3.4 and gcc 4.3.3.
[00:48] <NOMADICUS>  coz_; From my understanding Edubuntu is for children and Uber Student is target for college accademics.
[00:48] <demonspork> The faster server also is afresh install
[00:48] <foul_owl> thanks for the dmesg tip, i will now defer to google! :)
[00:49] <fluvvell> ems, right. In a terminal  type     dpkg -l |grep radeon
[00:49] <imperfect-> Hey, is there a pieceof software that will allow me to telnet to a serial port?
[00:49] <jlebar> xangua, if there's a way to install gcc 4.3.3 on Lucid, I'd be all ears.  (the gcc-4.3 package installs gcc 4.3.4.)
[00:49] <versuchsanstalt> foul_owl: yeah, dmesg is a great way to find out about problems. always.
[00:49] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  mm   yeah this is partially true  edubuntu has primary  seondary and tertiary packages that should go up to college level although I use Edubuntu and not sure that is particularly accurate :)
[00:49] <ems> fluvvell, , i will paaste that too within the pastebin
[00:49] <Datz> DasEi: sudo ifup eth0 -> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device. eth0: ERROR while getting interface flages : No such device. Bind socket to interface: No such device
[00:49] <fluvvell> ems, still reading http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man4/radeon.4.html
[00:49] <ems> www.pastebin.com
[00:50] <fluvvell> ems, you particular pastebin link ?
[00:50] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  I am going to download both uberstudent and artistx to compare
[00:50] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  however...if you are into graphics  you can set up ubuntu with just a few extra applications that will round it off and certainly meet up to most artistic expectations easily
[00:51] <DasEi> Datz: I need some time for working myself now and will be back in 2 hours, try to check the type of nick (try different) and list them by lspci
[00:51] <ems> fluvvell, , renedox, http://pastebin.com/EcPWd6gj
[00:51] <kholzer> imperfect-: minicom
[00:51] <DasEi> Datz: also #virtualbox
[00:51] <imperfect-> kholzer: I can get it to let me telnet to the serial port?
[00:51] <kholzer> imperfect-: a serial terminal emulator, right?
[00:51] <Datz> DasEi: ok thanks for the tips, I'm in VMware though
[00:51] <ems> DasEi, its #vbox not #virtualbox. :)
[00:51] <DasEi> datz°
[00:51] <kholzer> imperfect-: do you want to aces a serial port on your computer?  or what?
[00:51] <DasEi> Datz:  ^see ems
[00:52] <NOMADICUS> coz_; It is difficult, because I still call myself a noob, but I am by far more knowledgable than most of my friends who are not so os savvy.  They are all interested in having Linux as their os, but each person has different usage habbits and want their system to do different things.
[00:52] <imperfect-> kholzer: I want to telnet to the ip of my box and have it connect me to the serial port.
[00:52] <renedox> ems: run that .run file again but with sudo in front of it
[00:52] <vfw> ehcah: See: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[00:52] <kholzer> imperfect-: ssh into your box.  then run minicom there.
[00:52] <imperfect-> kholzer: Or more accurately, to four of them
[00:52] <NOMADICUS> coz_; before I am willing to install something on their machine I want to have tried it and know it myself.
[00:52] <imperfect-> kholzer: I've got 4 of them, and for this application I can actually use screen
[00:52] <imperfect-> kholzer: I wonder if there is a way to get a screen session to attach to all four instead of just the one
[00:53] <coz_> NOMADICUS,  understood... and that is an excellent approach .. I try to convert most of my clients over to ubuntu and so far NO complaints regardless of their habits :)
[00:53] <ems> renedox, same thing my man
[00:53] <kholzer> imperfect-: there definitely is...but I've never remembered how to use screen long enough to tell you how to do it ;[
[00:53] <fluvvell> ems, paste last result ?
[00:53] <imperfect-> kholzer: I use screen constantly.
[00:54] <versuchsanstalt> kholzer, imperfect- there is #screen, btw
[00:54] <imperfect-> blah.
[00:54] <ems> fluvvell, huh? you mean the sudo command?
[00:54] <fluvvell> ems,yep
[00:54] <zorael> Is there any way to make a route persistent? As soon as my network interface renews its ip, the routing table gets cleared.
[00:54] <kholzer> versuchsanstalt: I just now figured out that was what he was trying to do...thought he just wanted to talk to a serial port...
[00:54] <ems> www.pm
[00:54] <ems> oos
[00:54] <ems> www.pastebin.com
[00:54] <FloodBot4> ems: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:55] <versuchsanstalt> yeah, but it's four of them. in a row, i suppose. (i am kidding, think you noticed...)
[00:55] <sjm> zorael, fix the routing in your DHCP server.  It's sending out the new information.
[00:55] <ems> FloodBot4, did not :(
[00:55] <ems> fluvvell, http://pastebin.com/JYU9hEEB
[00:56] <glick> hey does magic jack work for linux/ubuntu and if not is there something similar to it, that does work in 'buntu
[00:56] <glick> ?
[00:56] <vfw> ems: did you try ./ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run --iscurrentdistro ?
[00:56] <ems> vfw, yes but not with the sudo command
[00:56] <sjm> glick, last I heard, no.  but you can look into freeswitch or asterisk or some other such thing.
[00:57] <glick> sjm, heh that all sounds hard to set up
[00:57] <mistergibson> I can't get desktop edition to boot properly for install on my laptop - but server edition boots into the installer ... anyone else run into this?
[00:57] <ems> vfw, it brings up a wide varity of commands ?
[00:57] <glick> im looking for something plug and play
[00:57] <zorael> sjm: I'm trying to override that, sort of. I'm connecting to a vpn on this machine and freenode.net doesn't really like me connecting through a proxy - it complains about identification via SASL (which is my real issue that I'm working around). So it's 'route add leguin.freenode.net gw 10.0.0.1 dev wlan0' after each vpn reconnect and/or wlan reconnect.
[00:57] <glick> might magic jack work with wine?
[00:58] <vfw> ems: How wide?  What are they?
[00:58] <fluvvell> ems, you *are* running a 64 bit os?    uname -a
[00:58] <sjm> glick, I don't think so.  You can look into a standalone box similar to ooma.
[00:58] <ems> fluvvell, no 32bit
[00:58] <vfw> vfw: But does not do what with the sudo command?
[00:58] <glick> ooma?
[00:58] <ems> fluvvell,  i wish 64
[00:58] <str1k3r> Hey guys, I want to set up sendmail or exim, but they ask me my domain... can I just put what I want ?
[00:58] <renedox> ems: try sudo ./driver-file.run -listpkg
[00:58] <fluvvell> ems, you've just downloaded the wrong driver thats all.
[00:59] <fluvvell> ems, maybe.....
[00:59] <renedox> ah
[00:59] <ems> fluvvell,  Linux kaos 2.6.32-24-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 20 14:24:04 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[00:59] <sjm> zorael, you can set things up more statically and not use networkmanager (I assume you are using network manager?)
[00:59] <vfw> ems: I suppose you will need to run this via sudo (at your own risk).
[01:00] <vfw> ems: Yes, as fluvvell says, make sure you have correct driver software for your device.
[01:00] <renedox> ems: I think fluvvell might be right, you've downloaded the 64 version when you need the 32 one
[01:00] <fluvvell> ems,   wait guys,  I think its all in one...
[01:00] <vfw> ems: What does  lspci |grep VGA say?
[01:00] <MTec007> hello all! I'm trying to get some help here, I have set up OpenSSH for windows, and I can connect fine. I'm trying to figure out how I can, or what I have to do, to create a file on the remote machine.. can this be done from the terminal or... ?
[01:00] <ems> it says x86 though
[01:00] <ems> vfw,  checking
[01:00] <fluvvell>   https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
[01:00] <ems> that is what i downloaded
[01:01] <zorael> sjm: I am, yes. It's a Kubuntu installation though I'm using pppd directly to call the vpn. KDE's networking widget (via NetworkManager) sets everything up otherwise. I guess I could make an if-up.d script, hm. Thanks.
[01:01] <sjm> zorael, sorry, been a while since I set up a vpn directly on a linux machine.  I'd assume in the vpn up/down scripts you could find where the routes are set and fix it there.
[01:01] <ems> vfw, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV410 [Radeon X700 Pro (PCIE)]
[01:01] <versuchsanstalt> MTec007: if you want to create a file on the windows machine, this might be the wrong place to ask. if you are trying to create a file on a linux machine, try the touch command.
[01:01] <fluvvell> ems, can you also  apt-get install dkms
[01:01] <fluvvell> sudo
[01:01] <MTec007> well im SSHing from ubuntu to window
[01:02] <MTec007> s/window/windows
[01:02] <fluvvell> ems, site says :  Kernal Sources package is no longer required if Kernel Header package is installed.
[01:02] <ems> fluvvell, done but what does this do
[01:02] <versuchsanstalt> MTec007: i don't know how to create a file in a windows terminal, i am sorry.
[01:03] <MTec007> I tried edit but i couldnt get the program to show in the terminal
[01:03] <vfw> ems: This looks interesting:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/ati-driver-not-working-after-update-585410/
[01:03] <sjm> MTec007, are you in cygwin?  try the linux commands.
[01:03] <MTec007> cygwin is currently downloading and installing
[01:03] <vfw> versuchsanstalt: What exactly are you trying to do?
[01:03] <fluvvell> ems, sometimes helps with .run installables.
[01:04] <fluvvell> ems,  now sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:04] <versuchsanstalt> vfw: MTec007 is trying to create a file on a windows machine he is accessing using ssh
[01:04] <sjm> MTec007, I assume you're not on the same LAN?
[01:04] <vfw> versuchsanstalt: O
[01:04] <MTec007> sjm yes, same router even
[01:05] <ems> fluvvell, done
[01:05] <sjm> Do you need ssh or could you use RDP or VNC?
[01:05] <sjm> MTec007, Do you need ssh or could you use RDP or VNC?
[01:05] <MTec007> i prefer ssh
[01:05] <fluvvell> ems, a slightly complex instruction manual is here:  https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat92-inst.pdf
[01:06] <fluvvell> ems, but knowing things are running slowly for you....
[01:06] <sjm> MTec007, me too, but with linux on the other end.
[01:06] <fluvvell> ems, it could be a bit tricky.
[01:06] <MTec007> i prefer going by terminal for anything
[01:06] <versuchsanstalt> MTec007: you could use the windows md command to create a directory, then list the current directory using dir. but alas, i don't know the plague good enough to know every itch and pain of it.
[01:06] <fluvvell> ems, perhaps just try the sudo .run  thing again and paste results
[01:06] <MTec007> versuchsanstalt, lol :)
[01:07] <ems> fluvvell, same result :(
[01:07] <ems> fluvvell, im in deep doodoo
[01:07] <King_Arthur> Does Empathy have email notification?
[01:07] <fade_> hi. Anyone have experience with QNAP NAS devices? I'm trying to connect a couple of disks (Linear array) - that was earlier used in my NAS - to my computer to copy over a ton of files. However, as the disks are encrypted, it's asking for a password to mount the volume. And my password doesn't work.
[01:08] <MTec007> maybe i shall wait for cygwin and go from there. im just impatient
[01:08] <fade_> I tried making a new encrypted volume on my NAS with a set of other disks, and sure enough, I couldn't mount them on my desktop
[01:08] <sjm> fade_, no experience at that level.
[01:08] <collabra> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx <--- ems,... are you sure you have the x86 and not the x64 driver?
[01:08] <sjm> fade_, try the qnap forums?
[01:08] <renedox> ems: don't give up yet, it looks like the ubuntu wiki may have the answer you're looking for
[01:09] <fade_> yeah been searching my ass off. guess i'll have to make a post
[01:09] <sjm> fade_, you can't put them back in the NAS to do the copy?
[01:09] <renedox> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:09] <collabra> ems: 32 instead of 64,... or is it the same file.
[01:09] <versuchsanstalt> MTec007: can you imagine? everytime i boot the plague it asks me about daylight savings time. and i'm not kidding. (doesnt apply for my work situation)
[01:10] <fade_> i guess i could, but i was hoping to avoid an all-night process of copying 3tb of data via LAN
[01:10] <renedox> it is for 9.10 but I found things generally work in future versions when it comes to video drivers
[01:10] <fade_> also, there's the issue of "i want to be able to do this"
[01:10] <ems> collabra, same file
[01:11] <vfw> ehcah: See: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/tag/slax/
[01:11] <fluvvell> renedox, yes I was just worried it didn't make a lot of clarity with lucid.
[01:11] <Tweaky> oh no someone instlled the proprietary ati driver?
[01:11] <renedox> fluvvell: yeah, I did consider that but probably wouldn't hurt to give it a try, I guess :S
[01:11] <renedox> Tweaky: someone trying to ;)
[01:12] <shiv_> Hi folks, I have 2 partitions one with Win7 and other with ubuntu. I need to format the Win7 and reinstall. I know I will lose grub with this. How do I get the grub back after I am done reinstalling win7 on win partiton leaving ubuntu alone
[01:12] <sjm> fade_, I might try to stick them in the NAS and look at the config there with mdadm and such to see if I could replicate the config on my box (but realistically, I'd probably be done sooner with the copy over the LAN).
[01:12] <MTec007> versuchsanstalt, yeah windows is pretty bad but its good enough for my 3 year old to play on.. its an old laptop
[01:12] <jrib> !grub2 | shiv_
[01:12] <fluvvell> renedox, other forums suggest that the open source drivers are ok.  Hmm, just worried his slowdown might be elsewhere
[01:12] <Tweaky> i would recommend against installing the propriatary ati drivers they ar nothing but trouble
[01:12] <fade_> yeah, i guess LAN copy is the way to go :)
[01:12] <sjm> !grub | shiv_
[01:12] <renedox> fluvvell: yeah.. me too
[01:13] <renedox> fluvvell: video drivers might be a good place to start though, cause ems is also getting the same thing on windows and a driver install fixes it
[01:13] <fluvvell> renedox, however the pdf is saying there are quite a few libraries that need to be there before the .run works.
[01:13] <fade_> on a more ubuntu-related note: How would i go about setting up networking in ubuntu such that i can access my server via LAN whilst being able to stay connected to the net (via wireless)? I've heard someone talk about subnet mask and such, but i'm pretty clueless
[01:14] <Andorin> Seahorse is being a bit of a pain. I got tired of having to enter a password on login to unlock my keyring, so I set the password to match my login password hoping it would automatically unlock... now neither the new password nor the old password works.
[01:14] <renedox> fluvvell: what's the link to the .pdf again? I didn't open it
[01:14] <shiv_> sjm, jrib sounds good. Thanks a lot!
[01:14] <fade_> atm if both connections are active, none of them work
[01:14] <kavurt> can you guys recommend me a charting software? openoffice calc is not doing what i want
[01:14] <fluvvell> renedox, XFree86-Mesa-libGL,libstdc++, libgcc, XFree86-libs, fontconfig, freetype, zlib, gcc
[01:15] <sjm> fade_, if it's all on the same network, it should just work.
[01:15] <renedox> fluvvell: oh damn.. lol -_-;
[01:15] <versuchsanstalt> kavurt: there is gnumeric, for example
[01:15] <fluvvell> renedox, would envy-ng be an easier solution - does it still do ATI ?
[01:16] <fade_> well it's not. The internet is only reachable via wireless. My server is connected to a "offline" lan: My Computer <-> Router <-> server
[01:16] <kavurt> versuchsanstalt: is gnumeric better than calc?
[01:16] <versuchsanstalt> kavurt: define "better".
[01:16] <undecim> What's the proper way to have a file included in the initramfs so that it's there every time it's updated?
[01:16] <renedox> fluvvell: not sure, I use nvidia and only troubleshooted ATI once but it wasn't this problem :S
[01:17] <versuchsanstalt> kavurt: also, are you sure that calc can not do what you want it to do?
[01:17] <fade_> this is to avoid Wifi speeds when migrating to new disks on my server *quake*
[01:17] <fluvvell> renedox, me too - but I have a couple of clients with ATI, again as you say, it wasn't this particular problem
[01:17] <porqueeeee> I've just upgraded to lucid lynx and my usb ports are acting very badly, file transfers to usb drives never finish
[01:17] <versuchsanstalt> kavurt: you could ask about that in an openoffice channel
[01:17] <ugliefrog> whats a good simple webcam app
[01:17] <sjm> fade_, does your server (qnap?) do dhcp?
[01:17] <Andorin> ugliefrog: Cheese
[01:17] <porqueeeee> which is frustrating as I've just got venture brothers ep 9 and I can't watch it on my divx player ;__;
[01:17] <fluvvell> ems, can you do a    ps aux    and paste the output to the pastebin ?
[01:18] <ugliefrog> Andorin, ty ill try it out
[01:18] <shiv_> kavurt, wine is always there to help with ms exel for really heavy duty stuff R can help as well
[01:18] <Marine> Marine is gaming.  !gameinfo for more info.
[01:18] <versuchsanstalt> kavurt: or maybe even here, depending on how specific and super gnarly specialistic the problem is.
[01:18] <fade_> it receives dhcp (ip address yes?) from the router, i think
[01:18] <ems> fluvvell,  i sure can hold one
[01:18] <fade_> and aye, it's a qnap
[01:18] <versuchsanstalt> kavurt: and like shiv_ says, wine has come a long way
[01:18] <sjm> fade_, the router is also the AP?
[01:18] <fade_> no
[01:18] <porqueeeee> please, I need to be able to use usb
[01:19] <fluvvell> ems,  *one*  ;-)
[01:19] <ems> fluvvell, one?
[01:19] <renedox> lol
[01:19] <fluvvell> ems, sry  lol
[01:20] <fade_> our main network (with inet access) is in a different room. I don't have cables set up to this room, so connecting via wireless.   I temporarily have my qnap set up in my room next to my desktop to migrate files.
[01:20] <Andorin> Hey guys, I changed the password on my keyring in Seahorse, and neither the new nor the old passwords are working. Any idea what to do?
[01:20] <kavurt> versuchsanstalt: i can do charts with calc. but i can't give the shape i want. i want to see the values vertically. but it shows only horizontaly
[01:20] <fluvvell> this job needs humour
[01:20] <sjm> fade_, setup the router to be on a different network than the wireless (e.g. if wireless is 192.168.1.0/24, then set the router to 192.168.2.0/24).
[01:20] <collabra> fluvvell: he has all those prereqs you mentioned earlier,... or,... ?
[01:20] <fade_> ok cool
[01:21] <ems> fluvvell, http://pastebin.com/ptwyQcaW
[01:21] <renedox> fluvvell: what job?
[01:21] <fluvvell> collabra, good question - but does he really need proprietory drivers, - or is his slowdown elsewhere ?
[01:21] <fluvvell> renedox, lol !
[01:21] <shiv_> kavurt, in that case I think you just need to put the original data in diff ways like change rows to colums and vice versa if I understand right. Just play around harder I guess
[01:21] <sjm> fade_, then, if they are on different networks it should just work, but don't put in a gateway in the router config.
[01:22] <versuchsanstalt> kavurt: maybe ask in #openoffice.org?
[01:22] <fade_> thanks a lot, sjm! I'll try this out! :)
[01:22] <fluvvell> renedox,  process might be a better phrase
[01:22] <fluvvell> *word*
[01:22] <renedox> fluvvell: haha sure does :P
[01:22] <kavurt> shiv_: i'll try thanks. versuchsanstalt: thanks
[01:22] <enth> Hello, all. Is this channel about Ubuntu?
[01:22] <renedox> GNU/Linux iz srs bsns
[01:23] <carandraug> hi! I'm trying to untar a file into another user home directory but I don't have permissions to cd into it. I can sudo as that user but the working directory is my. I've tried tar with -C but that also doesn't work. Anyone knows how I work around it? Also, that account has no password (as the root account) so I can't log in as that user
[01:23] <sjm> fade_, just check (with "route -n") that your default gateway points to your wireless gateway.
[01:23] <collabra> !hi | enth
[01:23] <vfw> carandraug: Copy that file over there first.
[01:23] <enth> Ok, here is my question: Is this channel about Ubuntu?
[01:24] <Saguaro> nope
[01:24] <carandraug> enth, this this support channel for ubuntu. To just chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:24] <Saguaro> it's about CentOS
[01:24] <enth> Ok, thanks!
[01:24] <collabra> yes,... enth,...go ahead and ask
[01:24]  * tddirc has an important question
[01:24] <Saguaro> wtf was that all about
[01:24] <tddirc> who here all cares about their freedom?
[01:24] <renedox> tddirc: 42
[01:24] <tddirc> lol that too
[01:24] <renedox> :P
[01:24] <Saguaro> are you glenn beck irl
[01:24] <tddirc> no.
[01:24] <vfw> carandraug: Copy that file over there and then login as that user and untar it.
[01:24] <tddirc> not trying to spam
[01:24] <carandraug> vfw, the tar file is already where I want it to be uncompressed, on that user home directory. But tar uncompresses on the current working directory which is MY home
[01:25] <fluvvell> ems,   can you do a   top       then ctrl-c and paste what shows ?  You might be able to recycle the same paste location
[01:25] <tddirc> not trying to spam, but everyone should sign this http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/acta/acta-declaration
[01:25] <vfw> carandraug: You need to login as the other user.
[01:25] <carandraug> vfw, I can't log in as that user. It has no password (as the root account)
[01:25] <versuchsanstalt> carandraug: or cd into directory as root, untar, then chown -R username directory
[01:25] <vfw> carandraug: What do you mean "It has no password (as the root account)
[01:26] <vfw> ?
[01:26] <carandraug> vfw, I've tried sudo -u username jxvf file name -C destination but it doesn't work
[01:26] <carandraug> vfw, I mean that the account was set without a password, the same way as the root account in ubuntu. It's disabled
[01:26] <fluvvell> enth,   UBUNTU!!!
[01:27] <vfw> crescendo: sudo su - other-user-name
[01:27] <fluvvell> ems, top command ?
[01:27] <Andorin> Yeah, even after a reboot, Seahorse refuses to open my keyring. Says that both the old and the new passwords are incorrect. So basically I'm locked out of Evolution, Gwibber, and whatever other apps use a keyring. Help?
[01:28] <renedox> fluvvell: seems he went afk
[01:28] <ems> fluvvell, ,its being so slow rigght now one sec
[01:28] <renedox> maybe not
[01:28] <ems> fluvvell, http://pastebin.com/idjMA3zf
[01:28] <fluvvell> ems, thats fine.
[01:28] <shiv_> gn everybody
[01:29] <carandraug> versuchsanstalt, but how do I cd into that directory as root? There's no root password.
[01:29] <carandraug> versuchsanstalt, duh! I can use sudo su. Thanks
[01:29] <prince_jammys> carandraug: use ''sudo -i''
[01:29] <prince_jammys> this will give you a login shell as root.
[01:29] <fluvvell> I think I'd knock compiz on the head
[01:29]  * renedox agrees with fluvvell 
[01:30] <versuchsanstalt> carandraug: :-) you spared me a long search for an explanation from a few minutes ago... ;-)
[01:30] <Firefishe> I have a laptop with an external slide-type switch for the wi-fi.  I'm running ubuntu 10.04.  When I boot up, if the switch isn't in the ON position, I can't get the nm-applet to initialize the radio.  Is there a way to initialize the wi-fi radio without having to reboot the entire computer?
[01:30] <fluvvell> cpu is doing next to nothing.
[01:30] <fluvvell> ems, disable all desktop effects in your appearance menu
[01:30] <ems> I know this
[01:30]  * versuchsanstalt is still not drunk enough to reboot and install the plague.
[01:31] <carandraug> versuchsanstalt, I know this stuff. I should have tought about. Instead I spent half an hour reading tar's man page
[01:31] <ems> ok
[01:31] <ems> hold
[01:31] <Andorin> So what, do I have to delete the whole keyring and start over from scratch because this one won't work at all? >_>
[01:31] <versuchsanstalt> carandraug: but that's a good way to spend your time. tar is great.
[01:31] <renedox> versuchsanstalt: it's easy, just type "sudo install plague --black" :P
[01:31] <versuchsanstalt> carandraug: (i'm getting your point though)
[01:32] <ems> sorry
[01:32] <eppa> official 10.04 EBS EC2 image doesn't seem to come back after a reboot :( and I have checked that SSH is running and access allowed by security group ;)
[01:32] <fluvvell> its ok ems,  its just we're all volunteers here - trying to help.
[01:32] <versuchsanstalt> renedox: :-)
[01:33] <eppa> anyone else get this poblem?
[01:33] <ems> fluvvell,  OH HEY ITS FIXED
[01:33] <ems> I disabled no visual effects
[01:33] <ems> whatever that is
[01:33] <tgp1994> eppa: Like from the grub bootloader?
[01:33] <vfw> ems: very good...
[01:33] <ems> What has happened
[01:34] <ems> What went wrong
[01:34] <fluvvell> ems, seriously ?
[01:34] <ems> yes fluvvell
[01:34] <ems> lol
[01:34] <eppa> tgp1994: I don't even know if it gets that far.. the AWS EC2 console is blank, shows no sign of normal boot output
[01:34] <fluvvell> renedox, ems,  WOOT!
[01:34] <ems> cool dude
[01:34] <ems> but maybe the devs should look intot hat
[01:34] <ems> i dont know maybe not
[01:34] <tgp1994> eppa: Hrm... I don't know what AWS is, but, do you have a normal monitor connected to what ever machine this is?
[01:35] <fluvvell> ems, the problem might revolve more around  the whole ATI  proprietory thing
[01:35] <eppa> tgp1994: hehe, no, AWS == Amazon Web Service. EC2 == Elastic Compute Cloud
[01:35] <fluvvell> ems, and its a bit political.
[01:35] <ari_stress> morning
[01:35] <ems> fluvvell, oh
[01:35] <collabra> fluvvell: do you think ems ought to try and load this driver
[01:35] <fluvvell> collabra, not if he wants to stay stable :-)
[01:35] <tgp1994> eppa: Ohhhh. Wow, you can install your own OS there?
[01:36] <fluvvell> ems, collabra,  I think what might happen is this will get sorted over a few months
[01:36] <fluvvell> updates will come out
[01:36] <collabra> yeah
[01:36] <eppa> tgp1994: yah dude, as many as you want
[01:36] <tgp1994> eppa: Interesting. You may want to have their team check on it.
[01:37] <eppa> tgp1994: http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/release/  Canonical provided AMI's you can boot
[01:37] <ems> fluvvell,  i still cant get over that was the easiest fix in the world and we're sitting here trying to figure it out. by we i mean you and rend, lol
[01:37] <ems> thanks guys
[01:37] <tgp1994> eppa: Huh. But this looks awfully close to a hardware problem, on Amazon's end.
[01:37] <fluvvell> ems, your welcome.   Diagnosis is always the hardest part
[01:37] <fluvvell> fixes can be quite easy
[01:37] <eppa> tgp1994: nah, what it'll be is some installed update has broken the kernel for use in AWS is all
[01:38] <eppa> maybe I need to 'hold back' the kernel update, was just hoping someone had encountered the same problem
[01:38]  * fluvvell   is so hungry he could eat his hand, better head off for some lunch
[01:39] <j3rg> hey anyone uses dreamcast emulator
[01:39] <j3rg> on Ubunru?
[01:40] <j3rg> lxdream to be specific
[01:40] <j3rg> Ubuntu*
[01:41] <undecim> How can I include a file in the initramfs?
[01:42] <ems> fluvvell, you dont know how happy you have made me
[01:43] <taget> Screen + Irssi is way cool, thanks for the help earlier
[01:47] <bstarek> hello guys, i have a couple files in a folder i want to delete but i cant. isnt the   chmod 777 folder     right command line?
[01:48] <ems> be right back
[01:51] <Cesar> What captcha? No such thing. :I
[01:51] <ems> #ubuntu-unregged (before i ID'd my nick)
[01:52] <thune3> bstarek: depends on what you want to do ultimately, to remove a few files I would just use sudo rm, being very careful.
[01:53] <bstarek> thune3, thanks, how about a non-empty folder?
[01:55] <thune3> bstarek: you want to remove everything including the folder? because I don't like to suggest recursive delete here as root, i would suggest changing all files in that dir to be owned by your user. chown -R bstarek:bstarek dirname , but that is only if you want to remove/change everything. Again, must be careful
[01:57] <bstarek> thune3, it is not a important folder dont worry :)
[01:57] <thune3> bstarek: sudo chown ..... and then you can delete as user
[01:57] <ems> guys how do i check if my sound is working
[01:57] <Scunizi> what command can I give on cli to find out what video driver is being used?
[01:57] <thune3> bstarek: i forgot the sudo
[01:57] <ems> any ideas?
[01:57] <bstarek> thune3, thank you
[02:01] <Eclectic>  I was looking at this laptop but I understand Ubuntu dosent play well with ATI TRUE or FALSE Toshiba Satellite L675D-S7013
[02:01] <The_Paco> Lucid Lynx seems to be killing my laptop's dvd-rom a minute or so after boot. If I reboot without powering off, even the BIOS doesn't seem to see it. Completely shutting down and restarting works. Just did some stress testing of it under Vista, works fine. Anyone know where I could start searching for help/info?
[02:03] <ems> Are there any Instant Message programs that can support webcam through the AIM protocal ?
[02:03] <tensorpudding> Eclectic: I know plenty of people who use Ubuntu with ATi.
[02:04] <Eclectic> tensorpudding: ok worth a try
[02:04] <fluvvell> ems, ubuntu is a good place to be ;-)
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> ems: gyache can
[02:04] <Guest34371> quick question: just got new ipod touch, with 4.1 installed. ubuntu 10.04 doesn't recognize it. should it?
[02:04] <scj> Scunizi: lspci -k | sed -n '/VGA/,/modules/p'
[02:04] <The_Paco> Note that my dvdrom when it stops working stops responding completely, button doesn't work, can't be found on dev/sc0 where it previously was, etc, no lights, no power
[02:04] <fluvvell> The_Paco, /dev/sr0  ?
[02:05] <The_Paco> sr0, too
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest34371: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/sync-your-iphoneipod-touch-with-ubuntu/
[02:05] <harovali> hi , I have a 9.10 system whose root partition needs manual recover. I'm on the phone with the user, who finds in trouble to press a key precisely in the very short span when the "GRUB Loading" message shows. I'd like the span to be longer, but what I'd need the most right now is a "deterministic" key sequence that shows the GRUB menu depending as little as posible on the short span there given. Has  anyone had to deal with 
[02:05] <ems> fluvvell, yes. except i dont wanna go read it on the internet, i want a book to learn linux. any good ones you recommend?>
[02:05] <acovrig> how do I background apps, then send cmds to the app from a different terminal
[02:05] <tensorpudding> harovali: i think holding the shift key should do it
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> harovali: if its grub2, hold shift and you will see the grub2 menu
[02:06] <tensorpudding> harovali: so long as the bios doesn't use the shift key
[02:06] <fluvvell> ems, whats you're previous experience and what kind of proficiency are you after ?
[02:06] <harovali> tensorpudding: ActionParsnip: thanks , I'll try
[02:06] <ems> fluvvell, 0 experience. haha, i shouldnt say that outloud. and the profciency day to day without having to go to windows to do anything except play my games
[02:07] <The_Paco> it doesn't mount or recognize, trying to force mount results in a 30-second delay and unknown device error
[02:07] <ems> fluvvell, web hosting
[02:07] <ems> fluvvell, if i had a preference
[02:07] <Guest34371> so is that a "no" on the ipod touch syncing? isn't 10.04 supposed to sync "out of the box"? isnt that what everybody is saying?
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> ems: i'd just use the OS for now, get used to it
[02:08] <fluvvell> ems, thats in the deep end. ;-)
[02:08] <ems> ActionParsnip, gyache isnt in the software manager. should i aptitude for it?
[02:08] <ems> fluvvell,  oh damn well im a newbie lol
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest34371: i always advise that link, seems to make ipod work nice. Not tested it as I am not an iSheep
[02:08] <ems> fluvvell,  i dont even know how to use grep hehe
[02:08] <The_Paco> I try to hdparm -I /dev/sr0 and get "HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Invalid exchange"
[02:09] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: an iSheep heh :) :D
[02:09] <fluvvell> ems, its not too hard to get a web page
[02:09] <The_Paco> iCount iSheep iSleep
[02:10] <fluvvell> ems, grep is very cool. It looks for things within files or output streams. For the geekier linux stuff there are o'rielly books that are pretty mean.
[02:10] <ZekeS> ... ok, now for my stupid question: mplayer w/ SMplayer suffers quite a bit of frame skip playing HD video, even with VDPAU enabled.  (works fine in Windows) - what sorta things can I do to try to fix it? :|
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: they are rubbish, but people wjo like shiny over functionality buy them. What can I say
[02:10] <ZekeS> ems: command_that_outputs | grep foo
[02:11] <Guest34371> yeah, actionparsnip: that link is for older ubuntu
[02:11] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: the Apple vender lock in is rather strong, just like Microsoft,  and yeah stuff from cowen would be more  Desktop Linux friendly, since the open formats and so on
[02:11] <fluvvell> hey irc channel -  whats the best ubuntu paperback book around?
[02:12] <Izinucs> !manual | fluvvell
[02:12] <Izinucs> fluvvell: it's free
[02:12] <fluvvell> he he. Thanks Izinucs, I've heard of it too :-)
[02:12] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: Banshee can proably sync your Ipod
[02:13] <Guest34371> ok?
[02:13] <The_Paco> I guess my question should be where should I submit a bug-report and what would they want in it to get an idea of what's going on? This is a driver/kernel issue I'm thinking.
[02:13] <fluvvell> ems, do you have a laser printer ?
[02:13] <Paddy_NI> fluvvell, If you are looking for something more in-depth I would recommend asking on the forums to get a good general poll
[02:13] <undecim> How can I include a specific file in the initrd?
[02:13] <Guest34371> sebsebseb: installing now...
[02:13] <Izinucs> The_Paco: how do you know .. what package was effected?
[02:13] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: also in the future it is a good idea when using Desktop Linux in particular to buy players that support open formats and that are also Linux distro friendly such as,  what cowen sell
[02:13] <Guest34371> what is cowen?
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> Guest34371: thats all I got. I'd just add the PPA and update what is offered.
[02:14] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: a company who sell good players, that work well with Desktop Linux :)
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> it's cowon ;)
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> Guest34371: did you buy the ipod yourself?
[02:14] <Guest34371> i just wanted something to read books on and do some light internet
[02:14] <ZekeS> http://www.jetaudio.com/
[02:14] <Guest34371> music is secondary but yeah i listen to audio books too
[02:14] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: ah yes ebooks, they have stuff for that even,  if I remember correctly, been a while since I looked at their site
[02:15] <fluvvell> ActionParsnip, do you know how to unbreak an ipod touch I told lucid to initialise (new)
[02:15] <Guest34371> ipod touch seemed like the perfect fit. nice interface, nice screen, nice price; i just need to dump some files on it from linux without booting up the windows bullshit
[02:15] <ems> fluvvell, might you know how to check if my sound is working. Apparently it is not.
[02:15] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: Apple stuff doesn't always just work with Linux distros, because Apple doesn't support them
[02:15] <The_Paco> Izinucs: The dvd-rom completely stops working/responding within a minute or two of ubuntu accessing/mounting it. Only way to get it back is total shutdown. Restart means the bios won't find it. I'm running vista dualboot and it has no problems like it, I just got done testing it over there.
[02:15] <Izinucs> The_Paco: file bugs directly on launchpad.(net? org?)
[02:16] <ems> ActionParsnip, gyache isnt in the software manager. should i aptitude for it?
[02:16] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: as far as I know you can have a Touch working, but might have to do something first, before it works
[02:16] <The_Paco> kay, thanks
[02:16] <NOMADICUS> I am just wondering what this will look like after I send it.
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> ems: its not ni the repo but there are repos for it, or you can compile
[02:16] <The_Paco> I'll idle here a bit, try to soak up some experience thru osmosis.... plus I'll probably also have questions there too
[02:16] <Izinucs> The_Paco: yea.. check launchpad and search for your model.. you could also search on ubuntuforums.org by your model cd/dvd and see if there are issues with it.
[02:16] <Guest34371> sebsebseb: from all the docs it looks like it is SUPPOSED to work, but nobody mentions the 4.1 ios that just came out. i think 4.1 broke all the syncing software
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest34371: sure but its made by one of the most shortsighted, ignorant companys around (Apple inc.)
[02:16] <fluvvell> ems, try sound preferences, you might find its muted.
[02:17] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: ah right yeah bingo
[02:17] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: thats probably it
[02:17] <The_Paco> Izinucs, will do. bbiab
[02:17] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: used to work, untill Apple broke the support
[02:17] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: that was expected though, that they would eventually brake the support
[02:17] <ems> lol fluvvell . you're flawless tonight
[02:18] <Guest34371> sebsebseb: i'm just trying to confirm that that is what happened
[02:18] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: Apple support Mac OS X, and sometimes Windows,  and they don't really care about other OS's, even though Mac OS X was based on FreeBSD
[02:18] <ems> ActionParsnip, well if im a newbie at this, i wont even attempt to compilelol
[02:19] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: may be able to run a Windows virtual machine, and use Itunes in that for it
[02:19] <Guest34371> yeah i know steve jobs is a dick, blah blah blah. but i also know the linux guys outsmart them all and eventually everything works just fine
[02:20]  * ZekeS resumes beating mplayer w/ a sledgehammer
[02:20] <ems> ah. ppa is just like aptitude for debian
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> ems: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gyachi-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html   has a directory for Lucid too
[02:20] <ems> same thing i think
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> ems: no, a ppa is a 3rd party repo
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> ems: you can install apps off of a ppa using aptitude
[02:21] <ZekeS> or synaptic for that matter
[02:21] <gdb> Mac OS X isn't based on FreeBSD.
[02:21] <fluvvell> ems, ubuntu has all debian commands
[02:21] <sebsebseb> gdb: no? well loads of people say it is
[02:21] <gdb> Nope, it sure wasn't.
[02:22] <tensorpudding> It has borrowed some FreeBSD code, but it's not based on FreeBSD
[02:22] <Guest34371> it was originally a MACH microkernel with BSD shit on top of that
[02:22] <gdb> Mac OS X is based on NeXTSTEP, the kernel is mach, and some portions of the userland come from FreeBSD, other parts from NetBSD.
[02:22] <ems> ActionParsnip, I got it all except: sudo apt-get install gyachi (result: couldnt find package gyachi)
[02:22] <tensorpudding> NeXTSTEP borrowed from 4.3 BSD and Mach, with a lot of brand new stuff on top
[02:22] <IdleOne> Guest34371: Please keep the language clean
[02:22] <gdb> Interestingly enough, the operating system on the Apple Time Capsule *is* NetBSD.
[02:22] <gdb> What tensorpudding said. ;-)
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> ems: did you run: sudo apt-get update
[02:23] <tensorpudding> For instance, the widget and graphics stuff is completely unique.
[02:23] <ems> ActionParsnip,  correct
[02:23] <Guest34371> IdleOne: what is clean? I'm not a native speaker sorry I don't know your customs
[02:23] <gdb> Now I can understand FreeBSD and/or FOSS fans taking some pride in having some of their work in Mac OS X, but it wasn't based on FreeBSD.  Anyway, this is all terribly off topic, but I find the power of this myth interesting.
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> ems: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466864
[02:24] <ems> well now that i am not slower then 5 turtles. i can go tosites
[02:24] <ems> one second
[02:24] <IdleOne> Guest34371: words like shit and other swear words are not acceptable in Ubuntu irc channels
[02:25] <Guest34371> for the record, whoever suggested banshee: no it does not recognize the ipud
[02:25] <The_Paco> ah HA
[02:25] <psusi> hehe, OSX is based on freebsd the way windows NT is based on VMS... which is to say, not really at all... yet for some reason often is described as such
[02:25] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: I think it might have some  kind of config or another program, might have to just use Windows in a vm for it or something
[02:25] <marvin> vms?
[02:25] <peepsalot> where can i find the md5 sums for the iso images?
[02:26] <gp5st_> i have an eeePC running netbook remix.  The wirless icon in the top bar has a red exclamation point , and when clicked just says networking disabled. any ideas of how to fix this? the led for the wireless is on. when plugged in it doesn't seem to get a dhcp addy either
[02:26] <sebsebseb> Guest34371: uh above, might work  after some kind of config,
[02:26] <Izinucs> The_Paco: ah ha?  did you find an answer?
[02:26] <sebsebseb> marvin: Virtual machines :)
[02:26] <Jordan_U> !md5sums | peepsalot
[02:26] <marvin> thanks
[02:26] <sebsebseb> marvin: lets you run an OS inside an OS
[02:26] <sebsebseb> marvin: for example you could run Windows inside Ubuntu, and it would work fine for most apps, 3D games for example would be an issue though
[02:26] <peepsalot> thanks Jordan_U
[02:26] <gp5st> sorry got kicked on that computer, on another now
[02:27] <Jordan_U> peepsalot: You're welcome.
[02:27] <The_Paco> Izinucs,  asus runs the dvdrom on my model laptop in an enhanced RAID-capable/emulated design. I can set to a standard IDE-style emulation in the BIOS and that SHOULD work... about to test
[02:27] <gp5st> i really can't find a way to enable networking.  ifup doesn't know about an eth0 or en0 interface:-\
[02:27] <rypervenche> gp5st: which eeePC is it?
[02:27] <tensorpudding> Virtualized hardware is limited, unfortunately.
[02:27] <peepsalot> last attempt to burn the image failed.  i guess i'll just try again.
[02:27] <marvin> yea i've been trying to get wine working for a while
[02:27] <psusi> no, not V.M. pl, VMS was an old unix like OS
[02:27] <marvin> no luck
[02:27] <gp5st> rypervenche 1005HAB
[02:27] <sebsebseb> marvin: oh right what you trying to run in Wine?
[02:28] <Izinucs> The_Paco: cool.. glad you found an answer
[02:28] <marvin> homeworld
[02:28] <rypervenche> gp5st: how long have you been using Ubuntu on it?
[02:28] <The_Paco> fyi Izinucs it's a G50VT if anyone else comes in with this problem, but it's a relatively rare system. Was overshadowed by eeepc's
[02:28] <sebsebseb> marvin: a game?
[02:28] <marvin> rts game
[02:28] <marvin>  old
[02:28] <The_Paco> brb, rebooting
[02:28] <sebsebseb> marvin: ok so 2D?
[02:28] <psusi> MS then hired one of its principal architects to design winnt
[02:28] <gp5st> rypervenche: i installed it a few months ago, used it, and it sat for a while, and now i'm using it again
[02:28] <marvin> no 3d space combat
[02:29] <sebsebseb> marvin: ok  well 3D games, well good luck getting them working in Wine as well, not just vm's
[02:29] <sebsebseb> marvin: I mean Wnidows games
[02:29] <gp5st> rypervenche: it's 10.04 in /etc/issue
[02:29] <tensorpudding> virtual machines don't get native graphics hardware access, so they'll be terribly slow
[02:29] <sebsebseb> !info playonlinux
[02:29] <sebsebseb> marvin: playonlinux might help some how, but probably not quite
[02:29] <marvin> hmm... what about java?
[02:30] <tensorpudding> Is Cedega still around?
[02:30] <ems> ActionParsnip, they dont have it for 32bit :(
[02:30] <tensorpudding> You might consider that if you really want to game on Linux
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> tensorpudding: indeed, its not free in any way
[02:30] <sebsebseb> tensorpudding: yep and Codeweavers Crossover games, those are meant to be bought though
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> ems: dig around, you'll find something
[02:30] <marvin> cedega?
[02:30] <tensorpudding> !java | marvin
[02:30] <rypervenche> gp5st: Check this out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Asus%20Eee%20PC%201005HA
[02:30] <sebsebseb> marvin: yeah there are paid for versions of Wine basicalley
[02:30] <ems> ActionParsnip, ok but before i begin. will it work for AIM the webcam?
[02:30] <sebsebseb> marvin: that can be better sometimes
[02:31] <tensorpudding> Cedega is a pay service that provides a special version of Wine that supposedly works a lot better with games
[02:31]  * ZekeS burns his Ubuntu media playback >:(
[02:31] <marvin> ah
[02:31] <sebsebseb> marvin: also Codeweavers Crossover Games is paid for, but meant to work better with games
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> marvin: cedega is a paid for wine equivelant and its not bad, if it suits your needs then shell out for it
[02:31] <gp5st> rypervenche: i can't install anything since i don't have a network
[02:31] <sebsebseb> marvin: and theres a Codweavers Crossover Linux that can also run games
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> ems: aim, i thought you said yahoo. not sure about aim
[02:32] <marvin> interesting
[02:32] <gp5st> rypervenche: i guess i could find a deb and install it off removable media, i hate doing that because of dependencies:-\ maybe i should reboot it a few times and see if i can connect and then install it?
[02:33] <marvin> what else is wine bad at?
[02:33] <sebsebseb> marvin: Wine is a great program, but
[02:33] <gp5st> marvin: being an emulator :: ducks ::
[02:33] <sebsebseb> marvin: the program support it has has been reverse enginnered
[02:33] <sebsebseb> gp5st: if you mean the Wine is not an emulater thing, marvin won't understand that yet
[02:33] <gp5st> oh, sorry:(
[02:33] <sebsebseb> gp5st: and now i'll explain it
[02:33] <marvin> i read up on that already
[02:34] <sebsebseb> marvin: the developers of Wine call it a compatability layour,  so yeah they say WIne is not an emulator
[02:34] <rypervenche> Oh gp5st
[02:34] <sebsebseb> marvin: also the program support Wine has, has been reverse enginnered,  so thats very impressive
[02:34] <sebsebseb> marvin: however as a result, it means loads of Windows apps still won't just work properly with it
[02:34] <rypervenche> gp5st: You mean you can't update anything since the driver isn't working for wifi?
[02:34] <renedox> fluvvell: ems went afk - i'm at work - but congratulations on getting the problem fixed :D
[02:35] <sebsebseb> marvin: and  put simpally they can't just support Windows apps 100% properly, because of Microsoft
[02:35] <gp5st> rypervenche: yes, and wired networking seems to not be working either
[02:35] <ems> renedox, i am not afk just getting angry again hehe. and thank you!
[02:35] <marvin> i'm self taught so expect big gaps
[02:35] <renedox> ems: sorry, I went afk
[02:35] <rypervenche> gp5st: Hmmm...you need to use a wired network to be able to install the driver for your wireless card.
[02:35] <sebsebseb> marvin: so its luck really, when an app works well in Wine, without needing to be configured to first
[02:35] <Paddy_NI> sebsebseb, They do a damn good job though I think they get way to much negativity
[02:35] <ems> renedox,  no proble
[02:35] <sebsebseb> Paddy_NI: indeed
[02:36] <fluvvell> ems, try empathy an all in one instant messaging client
[02:36] <marvin> luck? wonderful
[02:36] <gp5st> rypervenche: well, it worked before...and i havn't updated it since. if it's flakey sure. it's also possible the wired networking is a local issue (sometime between last month and next month dhcp support was due to be cancled in favour of registered computers)
[02:37] <ems> fluvvell,  ya they all have video but not for aim. hehe. i am sol and so is family
[02:37] <edbian> marvin, Yes but it's skill when any app you want works well in Wine
[02:37] <gp5st> i was hoping to get love on the wirless
[02:38] <fluvvell> renedox, thanksems, sol ?
[02:38] <fluvvell> ems, sol ?
[02:38] <ems> fluvvell, s*** out of luck
[02:38] <sebsebseb> marvin: when a program works well in Wine, that is useually, because the developers of Wine, have put a lot of work into making that program work well in it
[02:38] <fluvvell> ems, I have skype working happily for vid chat - but don't use aim -
[02:39] <The_Paco> back, DVD-Rom appears to be working, yay.
[02:39] <Firefishe> I have a laptop with an external slide-type switch for the wi-fi.  I'm running ubuntu 10.04.  When I boot up, if the switch isn't in the ON position, I can't get the nm-applet to initialize the radio.  Is there a way to initialize the wi-fi radio without having to reboot the entire computer?
[02:39] <marvin> any advice on configuring programs
[02:39] <marvin> ?
[02:39] <rypervenche> gp5st: Yeah, sorry I can't help anymore than that.
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> Firefishe: rmmod then modprobe the driver module
[02:39] <sebsebseb> marvin: also really LInux distros are meant to replace something called Unix not Windows, but now days for many they can replace Windows as well, depending on what they want to do on a computer, but  loads of people will still keep WIndows around as well, because of apps they want
[02:39] <Firefishe> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[02:40] <sebsebseb> marvin: as for configuring programs, I have tried before, and sadly it is not an easy thing to do for Wine
[02:40] <gp5st> ryervenche: it's ok, thanks for trying:)
[02:40] <disappearedng_> how come ubuntu keeps asking me to upgrade aka "partial upgrade" when 10.10 is not even out yet? I am on 10.04 lucid
[02:40] <sebsebseb> marvin: hence why I would useaully if I wnat a Windows app and Wine didn't work,  virtual machine of WIndows, or pshyical install of Windows
[02:40] <The_Paco> I plan to keep my windows in a virtualbox when I feel comfortable with linux :D, easy-peasy if it works
[02:40] <fluvvell> ems, apart from the o'rielly book on apache webserver,  and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html    -  there are probably heaps of books but the web pages give the low down on ubuntu specifics.
[02:40] <marvin> i just have it on my netbook
[02:40] <sebsebseb> disappearedng_: thats not abou 10.10
[02:40] <sebsebseb> disappearedng_: thats just saying that it coudn't install all the updates for some reason,  should do those later though
[02:41] <acovrig> I can't add myself to the audio group, why?
[02:41] <disappearedng_> how should I go about fixing it ?
[02:41] <marvin> so no big loss
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> disappearedng_: 10.10 beta is out. Partial upgrades are not advised nor supported
[02:41] <sebsebseb> !wine | marvin
[02:41] <disappearedng_> then how do I tell it to stop bugging me
[02:41] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: the second part what?
[02:42] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: it will say about partial upgrade, when can't install all the security updates from the repo
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: partial upgrades are not advised as yuo can break your OS
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> !partial
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> hmm, though
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> thought she did
[02:42] <TuxOtaku> I'm having some trouble with a USB bluetooth dongle. lsusb reports it as follows:
[02:42] <TuxOtaku> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
[02:43] <fluvvell> disappearedng_  , I think you'll find you havn't completed a previous upgrade
[02:43] <The_Paco> mavin: if the wine project is like it was a year and a half ago, if you're not proficient in linux, it's frustrating. Oracle Virtualbox is closed(ish) but free. I've been running distros in it inside windows for a while and am tonight starting/trying running an XP install inside ubuntu with it
[02:43] <acovrig> nevermind, I have to relogin ssh for group changes to show lol
[02:43] <TuxOtaku> I keep telling blueman to turn bluetooth on, but it just turns itself back off again
[02:43] <fluvvell> disappearedng_,   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade,   sudo apt-get --fix-missing,  sudo apt-get install -f
[02:43] <tensorpudding> There is an open-source version of VirtualBox
[02:44] <fluvvell> tensorpudding, and its pretty crappy
[02:44] <tensorpudding> as well as the closed version which is available from Oracle.
[02:44] <The_Paco> I saw that in the apt-list... I was concerned it might suck... lol I guess I was right
[02:44] <marvin> familiar with v box for xboxes
[02:44] <fluvvell> the full one from oracle has an increasingly scary license, but it works really well
[02:44] <The_Paco> the oracle one was pretty easy, hardest part was finding an x64 build of it
[02:46] <marvin> ??
[02:47] <sebsebseb> !virtualbox | marvin
[02:47] <The_Paco> now all I need is a way to import all the radio stations from Radio?Sure! into Rhythmbox...
[02:47] <disappearedng_> ok I did fix-missing, but then when I open up update manager it still asks me to do partial upgrade (which I *don't* want to do)
[02:47] <sebsebseb> marvin: both versions are free as in price, it meant free as in freedom the bot facotid
[02:47] <sebsebseb> !freedom
[02:48] <rafaelsoaresbr> hello, please help me with this error: "serial8250: too much work for irq19" http://pastebin.com/stXTj3Ks
[02:48] <sebsebseb> marvin: Virtualbox would allow you to run Windows   inside Ubuntu
[02:48] <marvin> also an african philosophy
[02:48] <marvin> ubuntu
[02:48] <sebsebseb> marvin: with enough RAM  would work well for most stuff, not 3D games though.
[02:48] <sebsebseb> marvin: and yes about the Ubuntu name
[02:49] <marvin> curious about the other builds though
[02:50] <rsr> Gwibber decided not to start anymore
[02:50] <marvin> suse?
[02:50] <rsr> has anyis?one else experienced th
[02:51] <cgroza> Hello, I have a question: Is bash_login executed at startup?
[02:52] <cgroza> anyone
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> marvin: suse is a different distro but is still linux like ubuntu, linux general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> cgroza: should be ran at login, not startup
[02:53] <cgroza> ActionParsnip, whats the difference?
[02:53] <The_Paco> no one has to be logged in when the computer starts?
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> cgroza: the startup stuff starts before the login screen. There is a list of use apps which run at logon too, the startup stuff runs as root
[02:54] <fluvvell> disappearedng_,  do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.  It does *not* take you up to 10.10
[02:54] <fluvvell> disappearedng_,  do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.  It does *not* take you up to 10.10
[02:54] <The_Paco> almost
[02:54] <disappearedng_> someone warns me of NOT dist-upgrading
[02:54] <cgroza> ActionParsnip,so if i have a script to be executed in there it would be run after i enter my password?
[02:55] <IdleOne> cgroza: this might explain a little more https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[02:55] <fluvvell> disappearedng_, they mean  dont do a    do-release-upgrade
[02:55] <neil_d> I am having trouble with my laptop and wi-fi... I had some smbfs mounts for my login in /etc/fstab  with the options "user=neil,password=xxx,uid=1000,gid=1000"  after login the wi-fi comes up (but not before).... then the system auto mount the smbfs partition (thats ok).... but when I turn the laptop OFF... at logout it seems that the wi-fi is disconected before the smbfs partition are unmounted... causing the computer to take an age to s
[02:55] <neil_d> hutdown... what can I do about this?
[02:55] <cgroza> IdleOne, Thanks
[02:56] <fluvvell> disappearedng_, if all your sources are still set to lucid, its not going anywhere towards meercat
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> cgroza: if it needs root then add it to /etc/rc.local    above the exit 0 line. If its a command to run after login add a reference to it in System -> preferences -> Startup items
[02:56] <karbak> I ended up having to install Maverick (command line only) on a Thinkpad W510 using the alternate installer since the normal installer wouldn't complete booting.
[02:56] <acovrig> I have user1 logged into Ubuntu 9.04 in IceWM, how/can I use rawplay to play audio without /dev/dsp errors?
[02:56] <waaade> hi guys :)
[02:56] <karbak> I've installed the ubuntu-desktop meta-package .. but I still only have a vanilla Gnome install ...
[02:56] <disappearedng_> ok
[02:56] <acovrig> in other words, can I have 2 apps use /dev/dsp at the same time?
[02:57] <cgroza> ActionParsnip, no , it must be run as regular user. Thanks. You Helped me a lot.
[02:57] <karbak> Any idea what I need to install to get the standard Maverick desktop ?
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> neil_d: i have that too
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> cgroza: no worries duder
[02:57] <karbak> A theme package ? Or something else ?
[02:57] <fluvvell> acovrig,  its pulseaudio that allows multiple apps to access the sound
[02:57] <IdleOne> !10.10 | karbak
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> karbak: maverick is offtopic here, #ubuntu+1 for maverick support
[02:57] <marvin> general linux chat?
[02:57] <acovrig> fluvvell: how do I use it in IceWM?
[02:57] <waaade> does anyone know where I can find more information on the dd command?  i saw something on the opensuse site about using it to create live CDs and i want to know more about how that works...
[02:57] <IdleOne> marvin: ##linux
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> marvin: could try #linux#
[02:57] <karbak> ubottu, ActionParsnip : Thanks for the pointer !
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> waaade: man dd
[02:58] <neil_d> ActionParsnip: it is a real pain... if you manually umount there is no problem.
[02:58] <fluvvell> acovrig,  its probably turned on in 9.04, which apps do you need at once - I seem to recall things were a bit sticky...
[02:58] <Richie086> http://bit.ly/b6J03X /quit
[02:58] <majorscurvy> hi all
[02:58] <watisdis> Since I've upgraded from karmic to lucid my transfers to USB drives have started to fail.. Large files never finish copying.. Smaller ones hang at the end but then finish
[02:58] <majorscurvy> i have a question about compiz/desktop effects if anyone has a second
[02:59] <acovrig> fluvvell: a standard login (not activly playing anything) and rawplay, `rawplay` returns 'could not open /dev/dsp for writing: Device or resource busy'
[02:59] <watisdis> I tried to copy a 175 mb avi file to my thumbdrive.. it's hanging at 169mb out of 175
[02:59] <NOMADICUS> I am trying to figure out how to install from svn.  I can't seem to find a proper tutorial.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
[02:59] <IdleOne> majorscurvy: #compiz can help with compiz specific questions
[02:59] <watisdis> i tried googling for this but I couldn't figure anything out
[02:59] <waaade> man dd
[03:00] <watisdis> it's done this to a bunch of files, doesn't seem to matter if it's an external hard drive or thumbdrive, everything hangs
[03:00] <watisdis> usb mouse freezes up too
[03:01] <watisdis> have to force reboot
[03:01] <waaade> ActionParsnip, sorry about that
[03:01] <fluvvell> acovrig, heard of but not used rawplay.  What about mpg321 ? its console based
[03:01] <waaade> ActionParsnip, it's been awhile since I used irc...
[03:01] <acovrig> fluvvell: lol, just realized mpg123 and mpg321 are the same program
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> waaade: np man
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> waaade: what are you trying to achieve?
[03:02] <waaade> honestly, i'm just curious about the way it works and what kinds of things you might use it for
[03:03] <fluvvell> waade, to completely wipe your hard drive lol
[03:03] <fluvvell> waade, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29
[03:03] <crucialhoax> is there a reason why startup disk creator wont install Fedora on a flash drive?
[03:03] <fluvvell> acovrig, yeah
[03:03] <IdleOne> crucialhoax: many have better results with unetbootin
[03:03] <ems> Is there a way I could minimize these tabs on the bottom to my taskbar? and then minimize them again to the task bar when I am done with the programor no?
[03:04] <TurtleSoup> "unrecognised disk label" when trying to use gparted on a 2TB disk. Ideas?
[03:04] <plouffe> How can I install w32codecs? And what else is needed to play DVDs on ubuntu?
[03:04] <crucialhoax> IdleOne: Didnt work either..
[03:04] <waaade> fluvvell, perfect!  exactly what i was looking for
[03:04] <IdleOne> crucialhoax: :/ got me
[03:04] <xangua> !medibuntu
[03:04] <xangua> plouffe: you need libdvdcss2, you can get if from medibuntu
[03:04] <fluvvell> waade, but its better at reading a cd than writing.
[03:04] <ems> plouffe, relieve your headaches. download VLC
[03:04] <neil_d> is there a way to get the wi-fi to connect at bootup not after login?
[03:04] <ems> plouffe, it should be in the software manager
[03:04] <crucialhoax> IdleOne: I even followed `dd` instructions, still a no go
[03:04] <plouffe> ems , VLC doesn't play my DVDs either
[03:04] <waaade> thanks guys
[03:04] <ems> plouffe, well it should
[03:05] <ems> plouffe, weird. sorry man i cant be more help
[03:05] <fluvvell> waade, I'd make an iso then use brassero to write it
[03:05] <IdleOne> crucialhoax: try asking in a fedora channel ?
[03:05] <Kane_hart> wait wait am I running 32bit java >.< java version "1.6.0_0"
[03:05] <Kane_hart> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.6) (rhel-1.13.b16.el5-i386)
[03:05] <Kane_hart> OpenJDK Server VM (build 14.0-b16, mixed mode)
[03:05] <TurtleSoup> Nevermind. Problem solved.
[03:05] <crucialhoax> IdleOne: Ha, I was gonna but the software is ubuntu based...
[03:05] <IdleOne> plouffe: have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[03:06] <plouffe> IdleOne, yes have that one
[03:06] <DAGr8> hi
[03:06] <davefromcamp> does anyone know where a good mpd help place is? or can anyone help me?
[03:06] <DAGr8> whats the diffrence between mount -o bind and mount --bind ?
[03:07] <dku> Hi all! I'm running Lucid, how can I get the microphone input to play through the speakers as well?
[03:08]  * scott_ino loves how many people are still in ubuntu-unregged
[03:08] <IdleOne> DAGr8: I believe they are the exact same command, -o == option
[03:08] <watisdis> Lucid is seriously pissing me off, going to go back to karmic
[03:08] <renedox> davefromcamp: what's your problem with mpd?
[03:08] <DAGr8> IdleOne why is that non t working then ? http://pastebin.com/mnJb15LW
[03:08] <watisdis> would have thought by now things would be working in this release
[03:09] <Kane_hart> hello
[03:09] <tensorpudding> watisdis: what's broken?
[03:09] <watisdis> i'll repeat myself
[03:09] <watisdis> Since I've upgraded from karmic to lucid my transfers to USB drives have started to fail.. Large files never finish copying.. Smaller ones hang at the end but then finish
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> watisdis: karmic is equally supported waaay into next year
[03:09] <Kane_hart> Does this mean im running 32bit java? java version "1.6.0_0"  OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.6) (rhel-1.13.b16.el5-i386)  OpenJDK Server VM (build 14.0-b16, mixed mode)
[03:09] <watisdis> it's done this to a bunch of files, doesn't seem to matter if it's an external hard drive or thumbdrive, everything hangs
[03:09] <scott_ino> is there a way to disable my volume control in notification area, It's already in indicator applet
[03:09] <watisdis> usb mouse freezes up too
[03:09] <majorscurvy> i still have jaunty lol
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> majorscurvy: jaunty dies next month
[03:10] <IdleOne> DAGr8: no idea, make sure there is no typo in the path
[03:10] <watisdis> i should have never upgraded...
[03:10] <renedox> watisdis: could it be your usb ports that are failing?
[03:10] <majorscurvy> i know lol, i have a wubi install so i have not gotten around to upgrading, Lucid won't install on my system
[03:10] <DAGr8> or rather IdleOne why is this not being mounted then ? http://pastebin.com/mnJb15LW
[03:10] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: are you running x86_64 Ubuntu?
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> watisdis: fine, can you cease spamming the channel
[03:10] <watisdis> I guess.. I've never had that happen before though
[03:10] <majorscurvy> gotta go, bye all
[03:10] <DAGr8> ok sorry for repeating
[03:10] <renedox> watisdis: doesn't mean it'll never happen
[03:10] <watisdis> I was answering tensorpudding, he asked what is wrong
[03:11] <acovrig> fluvvell: yea, rawplay is the culprit, not /dev/dsp; mpg123 works fine, but rawplay doesn't, I tried `mpg123 -s *mp3|mpg123` and doesn't work so I tried `mpg123 -s *mp3|aplay` and got sound, but not the right thing
[03:11] <crucialhoax> watisdis: Try booting a livecd of a different distro and see if it does the same thing
[03:11] <watisdis> I have karmic still on a cd, I'll try that
[03:11] <IdleOne> DAGr8: same link but again I have no idea.
[03:11] <Kane_hart> tensorpudding yes I am
[03:11] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: and you installed Java through the software center?
[03:11] <crucialhoax> watisdis: If it does the same thing I might propose usb ports failing. stuff happens dude
[03:11] <Kane_hart> I use ssh and not sure what I did <3
[03:12] <DAGr8> yea IdleOne sorry for repeating
[03:12] <IdleOne> DAGr8: no worries
[03:12] <Kane_hart> I wonder what performance im missing besides just the ram increase :S
[03:12] <watisdis> not too big a deal cuz this pc sucks :)
[03:12] <DAGr8> IdleOne if no typo this should mount right ?
[03:12] <watisdis> thanks
[03:13] <IdleOne> DAGr8: looks right
[03:13] <kkkkkkkkk> hello
[03:13] <DAGr8> IdleOne I m not missing any chmod
[03:13] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: you're using 64-bit Java then
[03:13] <julio> hi, i'm having trouble using wireless BCM4322(sta) <--> WRT54G
[03:13] <kkkkkkkkk> how do I install AcetoneISO?
[03:13] <Kane_hart> tensorpudding how can you tell?
[03:13] <julio> i'm not able tu use it
[03:13] <kkkkkkkkk> how do I install it is what i'm asking
[03:13] <julio> does anyone have similar issues or ideas to solve this?
[03:14] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: because the packages will use the 64-bit version
[03:14] <imperfect-> Anyone know of anything like gkrellm that looks a little more modern?
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkkkkk: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmount-isomdfnrg-images-using-acetoneiso-gui-tool.html#more-213
[03:14] <julio> kkkkkkkkk, in a terminal do... sodu aptitude install acetoneiso
[03:14] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: if you absolutely want to be sure, what does 'file /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac' return
[03:14] <Kane_hart> tensorpudding I don't think I did it by package hehe is there no way to actually tell for sure?
[03:15] <julio> kkkkkkkkk, sudo*
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkkkkk: found that in 2 seconds, literally
[03:15] <Kane_hart> ./usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac' (No such file or directory)
[03:15] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: Are you sure you have OpenJDK's Java 6 installed?
[03:15] <IdleOne> DAGr8: you might need to chmod +x switch.sh but it shouldn't run until mounted. I feel like I might be wasting your time here.
[03:15] <Kane_hart> I'm running a big scalled game server thats written only in java with 50 people on it
[03:15] <Kane_hart> lol
[03:16] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: wait a minute
[03:16] <Kane_hart> omg wait
[03:16] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: that thing was compiled for RHEL
[03:16] <Kane_hart> wrrrong ssh window :S
[03:16] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: also it is 32-bit
[03:16] <Kane_hart> im a idiot haha
[03:16] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: You should install OpenJDK from the packages if it's the Java you want to use
[03:17] <Kane_hart> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 16.3-b01, mixed mode
[03:17] <Kane_hart> java version "1.6.0_20"   Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02)
[03:17] <tensorpudding> Kane_hart: oh, that's Sun's Java there.
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> all the stuff you do iin acetoniso you can get nautilus scripts for
[03:17] <Kane_hart> what jave performance the best
[03:17] <Kane_hart> I was told the sun one
[03:17] <tensorpudding> The Sun one is the officialest one.
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkkkkk: is it working ok?
[03:18] <Kane_hart> the software I use sucks a lot of resources
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> tensorpudding: its the cl;osed source proprietary one, thats all
[03:18] <Kane_hart> I pretty much die to tweak it to the best of its abilitity
[03:18] <tensorpudding> It's the one the vast majority of people use.
[03:18] <kkkkkkkkk> I'm trying the code right now
[03:18] <kkkkkkkkk> Thank you everyone, i'm trying now
[03:18] <kkkkkkkkk> will let you know
[03:18] <Kane_hart> and the one you use is called?
[03:18] <tensorpudding> At least, those targetting desktop Java.
[03:19] <Kane_hart> this is a server enviroment
[03:19] <tensorpudding> OpenJDK is an open-source version of the Java runtime that has some Sun parts and some open parts.
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> tensorpudding: there are open javas available too, they are just made by a different company
[03:19] <abhijit> hi
[03:19] <Blue1> tensorpudding: c/Sun Parts/Sun don't shine Parts/
[03:19] <afeijo> hi guys, resolution problem here... I just installed ubuntu 10.04 in a philco notebook, and the higher res is 800x600, its a wide screen, how to fix it?
[03:20] <Blue1> abhijit: howdy tex
[03:20] <tensorpudding> If you don't mind the restrictions of Oracle/Sun's license you should use the Sun one.
[03:20] <crucialhoax> Acer 532h Netbook randomly notifies me that the battery is discharged, any fixes?
[03:20] <abhijit> Blue1, good! :)
[03:21] <Blue1> afeijo: this might help:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=325
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> crucialhoax: unplug the power then push it back in
[03:22] <crucialhoax> ActionParsnip: Huh? It does it constantly but randomly. I tried a proposed fix to no avail
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> crucialhoax: log a bug then is all i can suggest, check hardware first though
[03:25] <crucialhoax> ActionParsnip: As embarrassing as it may be, I dont know how, never done it before..
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> !bug | crucialhoax
[03:25] <jk__> !nick
[03:26] <crucialhoax> ActionParsnip: Cool, thanks. One more question, would the package be gnome-power-manager?
[03:26] <jk__> !register
[03:26] <afeijo> didnt work
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> crucialhoax: hmm, makes sense. If its wront the admins will move it
[03:26] <Tinman_usa> ok, my Ubuntu cant detect wifi after I used "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-server"
[03:26] <crucialhoax> ActionParsnip: Alright.
[03:26] <Tinman_usa> please help
[03:26] <afeijo> I try with xrandr to fix my resolution, but I dont know the id to my video, it isnt LVS
[03:27] <afeijo> *LVDS
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> Tinman_usa: remove the package maybe.
[03:28] <Tinman_usa> ActionParsnip, how do I remove it ? sudo apt-get uninstall ?
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> Tinman_usa: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[03:29] <ems> Is there a way I could minimize these tabs on the bottom to my taskbar? and then minimize them again to the task bar when I am done with the programor no?
[03:29] <Tinman_usa> ActionParsnip, ok lemme reboot and check
[03:29] <afeijo> argh, 800x600 sux
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: my servers monitor only goes that high :)
[03:30] <afeijo> lol
[03:30] <Four2zero> hello everyone, i just setup a samba server for file shareing a specific directory, and i am able to access on one machine, but as for wireless access im not able to access the samba shared directory " Windows cannot access \\media-server\movie library" How can i trouble shoot this ?
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> Four2zero: what version windows is it?
[03:31] <Four2zero> windows 7
[03:31] <afeijo> my old 5 years notebook, all work fine and automatic... now this new notebook dont?? bah :)
[03:32] <Blue1> Four2zero: this article pointed to here:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=309  may help as always - -YMMV applies
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Four2zero: thought so, you will need to run:   sudo smbpasswd -a $USER    and set the password the same as your logon. Win7 has a weird smb stack which authenticates diffrent to previous windows versions
[03:32] <abhijit> afeijo, old is gold
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Four2zero: i also recommend you remove the space from the share name of the folder
[03:33] <kkkkkkkkk> will let you know
[03:33] <kkkkkkkkk> yes it worked actionparsnip
[03:33] <Four2zero> ActionParsnip i did that for one machine and access was good, but on another such as net book i will need to do same for all "3" other machines running windows ?
[03:33] <kkkkkkkkk> thank you julio and actionparsnip
[03:34] <afeijo> how can I check my video chipset?
[03:34] <toolbear> hello. how can one resolve a bsd-style partition table in ubuntu?
[03:34] <Blue1> afeijo: lspci | grep VGA
[03:34] <afeijo> thanks Blue1
[03:35] <afeijo> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[03:35] <ems> Anyone know?
[03:35] <afeijo> is it a good one??
[03:35] <Blue1> afeijo: looks old
[03:35] <afeijo> really!??
[03:35] <abhijit> !hardware | afeijo
[03:35] <Blue1> afeijo: yeah pci video isn't exactly state o' the art
[03:36] <afeijo> damn
[03:36] <tensorpudding> it said PCIE
[03:36] <ZekeS> Blue1: PCIE is tho
[03:36] <afeijo> but winxp run fine here
[03:36] <tensorpudding> wouldn't that be PCI-Express?
[03:36] <tensorpudding> Windows XP is oooold.
[03:36] <Blue1> ZekeS: yes but pci ain't agp
[03:36] <Tinman_usa> using Ubuntu 8.04 wifi stoped working after installing  linux-restricted-modules-server, removed it, but wifi still not working
[03:36] <SubCool> hey- what Folder Browers will give folder sizes?
[03:36] <OriginalMVP> How do I install the Liquorix Kernel to Ubuntu? they have a nice tut here but I don't have debian http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/158
[03:37] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> hello is there a way to separate Amarok 2.3.1's widgets from context menu?
[03:37] <afeijo> winxp, from 2002, run video fine... ubuntu dont, I have no luck lol
[03:37] <Tinman_usa> please help
[03:37] <ZekeS> afeijo: maybe this will help? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-sis-771671-mirage-3-video-drivers-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid.html
[03:37] <ZekeS> :D
[03:37] <Blue1> asdfasdfasdfasdf: not that I know of.  I have moved to guayadeque
[03:38] <ng0n> my windows BCD file configures Wubi incorrectly.
[03:38] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> Blue1, ew no, i like amarok the most.
[03:38] <Tinman_usa> iwlist eth0 scan
[03:38] <Tinman_usa> eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[03:38] <Blue1> asdfasdfasdfasdf: I needed an eq, and they stripped that from amarok.
[03:39] <ng0n> need help fixing a wubi boot from win 7.  anyone ?
[03:39]  * Blue1 is not the wubi guy, sorry
[03:39] <afeijo> ZekeS, ouch, that page has a invalid link for the driver... time for google
[03:39] <ng0n> perhaps i need to find #wubi.
[03:40] <ZekeS> afeijo: sorry I didnt check the link :|
[03:40] <ZekeS> Just the guide
[03:40] <ZekeS> looks fun ^^
[03:40] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> Blue1, get a pro one. don't really thin amarok 1.4X eq was that great ^^, though yes it would be cool to put one down there, and add the possibility of moving buttons down too.
[03:40] <cklabe> I need help getting this USB VGA addapter to work for dual monitors.
[03:41] <cklabe> Could anyone help me?
[03:41] <ZekeS> err
[03:41] <Blue1> asdfasdfasdfasdf: you can check out guayadeque http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=174  supposed to be standard issue in next 10.10
[03:41] <ZekeS> seems fine to me afeijo
[03:41] <ZekeS> http://estebanordano.com.ar/sis-m671m672-driver-for-xorg-xserver-7-5-on-debian-sidux/ and MegaUpload seems to be up
[03:41] <afeijo> zekes hey np, it helped! I found another site in portuguese... yay, downloaded and now I'll do the files cp
[03:41] <cklabe> I have searched and read and searched, and I cant seem to get any lead.
[03:41] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> Blue1, nice but i'm not trying it ^^ though i appriciate =)
[03:42] <kneaux> i'm getting an error trying to install chrome in wine
[03:42] <ZekeS> Hmm, should I use Guayadeque or Exaile ...
[03:42] <kneaux> (i know there's a linux version now, i need it in wine so i can get adobe digital editions, so i can pirate books)
[03:43] <tensorpudding> kneaux: Maybe check out the appDB
[03:43] <rallias> how do i remedy the error of Could not find XOpenDisplay in -lX11.
[03:44] <j3rg> anyone does programming in here ....sepcifically for linux?
[03:44] <kneaux> tensorpudding: well i'm googling the answer (so meta) and apparently there's a standalone installer, i just can't figure out where the latest version is supposed to be :\
[03:44] <Ivanrad> hey all
[03:44] <tensorpudding> j3rg: you should probably check out one of the language-specific channels on freenode
[03:44] <Ivanrad> anyone familiar with wubi?
[03:44] <kneaux> the error i'm getting has to do with google being incapable of installing something from the file you actually download
[03:44] <j3rg> ok thanks tensorpudding
[03:44] <Ivanrad> ?
[03:45] <demonspork> how do I access a currently running "screen" instance of another user without originally initiating the login (via SSH) as that user. I can su as the user running the screen, but it says "Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check."
[03:45] <frobisher> Ivanrad:windows ubuntu installer
[03:45] <Ivanrad> ya
[03:45] <Tinman_usa> please help, using Ubuntu 8.04 wifi stoped working after installing  linux-restricted-modules-server, removed it, but wifi still not working
[03:46] <Ivanrad> @frobisher so i have an ssd ZIF hooked up externally to my windows
[03:46] <rallias> Tinman_usa: try rightclicking the wifi icon
[03:46] <mast`> I have a bit of an issue after updating to Maverick. I'm using an ATI card with the propriatery drivers and after the first reboot I got stuck in text mode, so I purge'd the drivers and rebooted in safe mode then reinstalled the Ubuntu/maverick drivers downloaded from the ATI website but no luck. Anyone has an idea what to do?
[03:46] <Ivanrad> and im using wubi to install the netbook Os of ubuntu
[03:46] <Ivanrad> will this work
[03:46] <tensorpudding> !ubuntu+1 | mast`
[03:46] <mast`> okay thanks
[03:46] <Blue1> mast`:  you might want to /join #ubuntu+1 for 10.10 issues
[03:47] <Tinman_usa> rallias, huh ? it doesnt say anything, do I need to install ndiswarpper or something, the wifi suddenly stopped working after I installd that
[03:47] <tensorpudding> Ivanrad: Wubi installs Ubuntu inside Windows
[03:47] <OriginalMVP> Anyone know how to put the Liquorix kernel on Ubuntu?
[03:47] <Ivanrad> no but i directed it to my SSD
[03:47] <Ivanrad> will that work?
[03:47] <ZekeS> It should be fine
[03:47] <tensorpudding> Ivanrad: directed what?
[03:47] <rallias> tinman_usa: i am guessing you should try a system wide update
[03:47] <Ivanrad> the install of wubi to my SSD
[03:47] <ZekeS> Wubi creates the entire linux file system inside a container file
[03:47] <frobisher> Ivanrad: too complicated for me<I just go to the website and download it.
[03:47] <Tinman_usa> rallias, the new Ubuntu hang my system
[03:47] <tensorpudding> Ivanrad: I guess it should be fine?
[03:47] <rallias> tinman_usa: or a dist-upgrade
[03:47] <ems> fluvvell, still around?
[03:47] <ZekeS> (don't delete that container)
[03:47] <ZekeS> (;)
[03:47] <Ivanrad> ya
[03:48] <Ivanrad> the comp will boot to the SSD
[03:48] <ng0n> anyone know how to edit BCD boot menu in Win 7 ?
[03:48] <rallias> tinman_usa: try try again
[03:48] <tensorpudding> Ivanrad: There might be issues if you try booting without the SSD attached
[03:48] <Ivanrad> so im sure its installing it as an operating system
[03:48] <Ivanrad> it will be attached
[03:48] <tensorpudding> ng0n: there is a program EasyBCD which does it
[03:48] <kj4> i'm back to see how it goes here. been gone for long time
[03:48] <abhijit> !windows | ng0n
[03:48] <Tinman_usa> rallias, which system you using ?
[03:49] <rallias> tinman_usa: ubuntu 10.04.1
[03:49] <Blue1> Ivanrad: this is how I put a working ubuntu onto a flash drive:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=51
[03:49] <Tinman_usa> rallias, ok this is the second time I am upgrading to that version, last time it froze my mouse, my graphics card and much more
[03:50] <rallias> is there any sensitive data on the machine?
[03:50] <Tinman_usa> rallias, even now it shows This computer is currently using the AMD 'fglrx' graphics driver. No version of this driver is available that works with your hardware in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
[03:50] <ng0n> tensorpudding.  tried that.  it's wubi entry doesn't call /ubuntu/winboot/wubildr
[03:50] <Ivanrad> so basically here is my situtation...i have an hp mini 1116nr .. i just got my runcoreSSD i connected the RUNCore ssd to my windows comp...and i opened WUBI and im installing ubuntu netbook onto the SSD.. my question is once its done installing the OS on the SSD will it boot up properly on the netbook
[03:50] <imperfect-> Is lmsensors the way to go to get cpu temp's and such?
[03:50] <ng0n> thanks use all.
[03:50] <rallias> tinman_usa: is there any sensitive data on the machine?
[03:50] <ng0n> will try # widows.  uggg.
[03:50] <Tinman_usa> rallias, no, I have all backup
[03:50] <afeijo> IT WORKED
[03:50] <rallias> tinman_usa: do you have a spare cd?
[03:50] <ZekeS> afeijo: nice!
[03:51] <afeijo> thanks ZekeS :D and all that msg me
[03:51] <Tinman_usa> rallias, you wnat me to do a fresh install ? I want 64 bit if possible I have 4 gig
[03:51] <|devicenull|> I'm trying to do a netinst, and I'm seeing "Installation step failed" while installing the base system.  console reports an error related to LIBDI_4.7 not found (related to archdetect)
[03:51] <|devicenull|> how exactly would I go about debugging that one? I'm not really sure where to start
[03:51] <rallias> tinman_usa: when was your computer built?
[03:51] <Ivanrad> ?
[03:51] <afeijo> its nice to have a bigger screen and 4gb against my old note that have 1 gb lol
[03:51] <Tinman_usa> rallias, its T60, few years ago I guess
[03:52] <Tinman_usa> Centrino duo laptop
[03:52] <Blue1> Ivanrad: it should since wubi runs UNDER windows
[03:52] <Ivanrad> ya but the netbook doesnt have any OS
[03:52] <rallias> tinman_usa http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04.1/ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[03:52] <Ivanrad> its just booting from the SSD
[03:53] <Blue1> Ivanrad: so explain to me once again, what it is you want to do, install wubi or install linux?
[03:53] <frobisher> Ivanrad: It would be doutful as there is isssues with Grub.
[03:53] <devicenull_> I found a debian bug related to it, nothing about it in ubuntu
[03:53] <Scunizi> How do I kill X .. sudo service gdm stop kills part of it.. but the nvidia binary compains something is still running.. logs show the pid but when I kill that gmd starts again..
[03:53] <Tinman_usa> rallias, whats wrong with 32 version of 10.04 ? it cant detect 4 gigs ?
[03:53] <Tinman_usa> 32bit
[03:53] <imbezol> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/partimage/download
[03:54] <rallias> tinman_usa you wanted it
[03:54] <tensorpudding> Nothing wrong with 32-bit Ubuntu.
[03:54] <Ivanrad> im installing ubuntu netbook remix from wubi onto my usb which is connected thru the USB of my other laptop.. when i put this SSD into the netbook will it work
[03:54] <ZekeS> Scunizi: enable Ctrl+Alt+Backspace in System > Keyboard Shortcuts :3
[03:54] <imbezol> when i do a search i don't see partimage.. is it because it's i386 only?
[03:54] <v1valdi> 32bit cant detect more than 3.2gigs of ram
[03:54] <Ivanrad> Grub?
[03:54] <imperfect-> PAE bitches!
[03:54] <Tinman_usa> tensorpudding, does 64 bit Ubuntu run all 32 bit software ?
[03:54] <maco> !language | imperfect-
[03:54] <Blue1> Ivanrad: wow that's way more complicated.  I'd put ubuntu onto a flash drive, then boot the flash drive.
[03:54] <frobisher> Ivanrad Grand Unified Bootloader.
[03:55] <Scunizi> ZekeS: that just reboots gdm.. it doesn't stop X and only on older systems.  like you said you have to enable that key combination.. but .. it doesn't kill
[03:55] <Scunizi> X
[03:55] <ZekeS> ohhhh
[03:55] <tensorpudding> Tinman_usa: It can run 32-bit software if it has 32-bit libraries to go with them.
[03:55] <ZekeS> sry :|
[03:55] <Ivanrad> isnt wubi installing grub onto the SSD tho?
[03:55] <Tinman_usa> tensorpudding, so its better for me to keep it 32 bit ?
[03:55] <tensorpudding> Tinman_usa: 64-bit linux can read 32-bit ELFs just fine, but they have to be linked to 32-bit libraries
[03:55] <ZekeS> Ivanrad: Wubi is intended for you to dual boot Windows and Linux easily with minimum install fuss
[03:55] <Blue1> Ivanrad: wubi makes NO changes to the boot block
[03:55] <Ivanrad> fuk
[03:55] <ZekeS> It's NOT intended for any other purpose
[03:55] <Tinman_usa> tensorpudding, I think I like 32bit OS, so it will detect more than 3 gig RAM ?
[03:56] <Ivanrad> so what do u think i should do
[03:56] <tensorpudding> Tinman_usa: there might be problems with programs that have handcoded 32-bit assembler in them
[03:56] <Tinman_usa> tensorpudding, yes thats what I am thinking too
[03:56] <Blue1> ZekeS: incorrect - -wubi does NOT dual boot.  It runs under windows.  dual boot is somehing else.
[03:56] <rallias> Tinman_usa: only with a specially compiled kernal
[03:56] <v1valdi> if you want to use more than 3gigs of ram, use 64bit
[03:56] <ZekeS> Blue1: sorry, it's been a while since I used it >.>
[03:56]  * ZekeS hides
[03:56] <tensorpudding> Tinman_usa: I've only run into one program that just didn't work on 64-bit at all.
[03:56] <Tinman_usa> tensorpudding, should I reinstall 10.04 or upgrade 10.04 from 8.04 ?
[03:57] <tensorpudding> Tinman_usa: some proprietary software will have issues if it is old
[03:57] <tensorpudding> Tinman_usa: the 8.04 to 10.04 upgrade is well-documented, it should be fine
[03:57] <IdleOne> Grub?
[03:57] <Tinman_usa> ok here goes
[03:58] <Tinman_usa> hope I get my wifi back
[03:58] <Tinman_usa> or else I come after rallias
[03:58] <Tinman_usa> :D
[03:58] <Blue1> Tinman_usa: did you install a back port?
[03:58] <Tinman_usa> Blue1, whats that ?
[03:58] <wrektjet> hey all. im having some difficulties getting a router to play nice with 10.04. im using the pretty popular netgear wgr614 and it used to work fine before i moved, but since i got into my new place i have no luck. not sure what the problem is as ive followed all instructions for configuring eth0
[03:58] <ems> where would i be able to download drivers for my speakers to be able to work? any ideas.
[03:58] <Blue1> Tinman_usa: if you don't know what that is, then you didn't install it. nvm
[03:58] <ZekeS> Ivanrad: this link seems relevant to your interests: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/put-ubuntu-netbook-remix-10-04-on-flash-drive-in-windows/
[03:59] <ZekeS> :)
[03:59] <Blue1> ZekeS: yea that is a good link
[04:00] <frobisher> Ivanrad: too keep you're conversation going till someone figures this out,What input "S do you have Cdro,flash ,usb.
[04:00] <Ivanrad> i luv u
[04:00] <Ivanrad> thank you
[04:00] <Ivanrad> soo much
[04:01] <ems> So anyone ?
[04:03] <paulo> Hi, people. I am new to this Xubuntu and I'm having trouble with my 3G connection. It freezes after a random while/ or will it be data? The last time I had 23Mb download. How can I diagnose it?
[04:03] <afeijo> ouch, no visual effect works lol
[04:03] <wrektjet> does anyone have any idea why the wired conex would work but not when plugged in via the router?
[04:03] <ruffleS> hey guys maverick's new default wallpaper's been released http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TI_B7w4vI9I/AAAAAAAAB7Y/hgywOYAWBW4/s400/warty-final-ubuntu.jpg :d how'd ya like it?
[04:03] <Blue1> wrektjet: the router is not setup to supply dhcp?
[04:04] <devicenull_> how's the upgrade path from 10.04 -> 10.10? edit apt/sources.list && aptitude dist-upgrade?
[04:04] <tensorpudding> 10.10 isn't out yet
[04:04] <Blue1> devicenull_: I dont recommend upgrading, it is problematic.  backup /etc/ and /home/ and do a clean install followed by a restore
[04:05] <devicenull_> Blue1: if I could get netinst working on 10.10, that wouldnt be an issue
[04:05] <ruffleS> devicenull_, alt + f2 then type update-manager -cd
[04:05] <SpockVulcan> tensorpudding: it is in beta stage
[04:05] <wrektjet> blue1 well i was trying static ip to match the ipv6 settings i entered bia the networking tool
[04:05] <devicenull_> but as the installer dies when I try netinst, there's not much I can do except use 10.04 and upgrade
[04:06] <tensorpudding> devicenull_: try using a full install? where does the installer die?
[04:06] <Blue1> wrektjet: iirc ubuntu defaults to dhcp -- I use static dhcp reservations in my router via mac address so the same computer always gets the same ip.
[04:06] <devicenull_> can't use a full install, no CD drive.. have to do it via PXE
[04:06] <devicenull_> the installer dies at 'installing the base system'
[04:06] <IdleOne> !10.10
[04:07] <devicenull_> get an error in console with: LIBDI_4.7 not found (related to archdetect)
[04:07] <Blue1> devicenull_: I've only played with the 10.10 livecd so far it looks like, I'll be waiting a few more weeks
[04:07] <tensorpudding> devicenull_: what about USB?
[04:07] <devicenull_> don't have a USB drive available for it
[04:08] <wrektjet> blue1 well the mac address is set to that of this computer. still wont function. but even when set to dynamic it wont connect. sorta driving me nuts
[04:08] <tensorpudding> devicenull_: it might well be a problem with the PXE image
[04:08] <Blue1> devicenull_: you can create a install usb drive for ubuntu
[04:08] <devicenull_> Blue1: right, but I don't have the physical hardware to do that
[04:09] <Blue1> wrektjet: what type of router, and what software ru running?
[04:09] <devicenull_> tensorpudding: right, I'm gonna try the 10.04 netboot image and see what happens
[04:09] <Blue1> devicenull_: scotty's disease -- I don;t think I've got the pow'r
[04:09] <wrektjet> blue1 pretty mainstream netgear wgr614 and ubuntu 10.04
[04:10] <Blue1> wrektjet: no what software is the router running?
[04:11] <wrektjet> blue1 laterst firmware from netgear. no tomato or wtvr that stuff is called
[04:11] <fluvvell> ems, away then back again.
[04:11] <Blue1> wrektjet: so stock software then (supplied from the manufacturer?)
[04:11] <wrektjet> blue1 yes
[04:12] <ems> fluvvell,  ok. np. still having an issue here trying to find a instant msgr client that can handle aim webcam video
[04:12] <devicenull_> yea the 10.10 netboot stuff definitely isn't ready
[04:12] <Blue1> not fam. enough with that manu. anyone good with netgear router software?
[04:12] <devicenull_> the pxelinux.cfg/default file is just empty, leading to all sorts of cryptic errors
[04:12] <wrektjet> blue1 do u think a firmware update w/ some other software would help
[04:12] <acovrig> does anyone know of a rawplay alternative (rawplay doesn't work) I need to pipe raw audio and have an app play it (like `mpg123 -s *mp3|rawplay` but rawplay doesn't work for me)
[04:13] <Blue1> wrektjet: I am checking to see if dd-wrt would work on it atm
[04:14] <Ivanrad> ok universal usb installer didnt work
[04:14] <Blue1> wrektjet: looks like the site is down..
[04:14] <SubCool> hey- what Folder Browers will give folder sizes?
[04:14] <elijah> Is the partition manager the Kubuntu installer uses the same as Ubuntu?
[04:15] <elijah> SubCool: Good question, I would like to know that too.
[04:16] <devicenull_> well
[04:16] <SubCool> elijah, your answer, is yes. Kubunt is ubuntu- just with a KDE front
[04:16] <devicenull_> 10.04 netinst seems to be working
[04:16] <devicenull_> so something got broken in 10.10
[04:16] <Blue1> wrektjet: nope not wgr614 not supported by dd-wrt
[04:16] <SubCool> My system is telling me its full- and i dont know where to search to start deleting things, or resizing things.
[04:17] <glebihan> SubCool: use the disk usage analyser
[04:17] <tensorpudding> SubCool: what does df -h say
[04:17] <Blue1> SubCool: try du -hs *
[04:17] <elijah> SubCool: Great, do you know the name of the partition manager? I want to be able to access the GUI to shrink a partition in my Kubuntu install.
[04:17] <tensorpudding> elijah: try gparted
[04:17] <Ivanrad> can anyone help me install ubuntu netbook remix
[04:17] <Ivanrad> onto my SSD
[04:17] <davefromcamp> has anyone been successful in controling mpd over your network?
[04:18] <Ivanrad> with a bootable Grub
[04:18] <Gnea> Ivanrad: it won't install?
[04:18] <Blue1> Ivanrad: you'd need to create a bootable usb device you can do that off the livecd
[04:18] <tensorpudding> davefromcamp: what do you mean by "over your network"?
[04:18] <elijah> SubCool: My system ran out of space yesterday and the whole thing crashed, I suggest using apt-get clean to get rid of all downloaded packages
[04:18] <Ivanrad> i have a windows pc
[04:18] <Ivanrad> if i burned a live cd
[04:18] <Fudge> startup disk creator
[04:19] <davefromcamp> well I have the server running and my client on my mpd computer works fine
[04:19] <Ivanrad> booted from that... then selected the SSD would it install to it?
[04:19] <Blue1> Ivanrad: okay so what prevents you from booting the livecd disc?
[04:19] <Ivanrad> omg
[04:19] <davefromcamp> I want to play from my droid
[04:19] <ZekeS> Or the bootable flashdrive
[04:19] <Ivanrad> do u not understand....
[04:19] <ZekeS> for that matter
[04:19] <Ivanrad> I have a netbook .. i just took out the SSD
[04:19] <gstarx90> how to do i get docky to use a custom icon instead of the default?
[04:19] <tensorpudding> davefromcamp: there is a webserver-based control thing, but it's kinda mungy
[04:19] <Ivanrad> i have a blank SSD formatted
[04:19] <Ivanrad> no data
[04:19] <elijah> tensorpudding: It says Gparted isn't installed, is this the same one Kubuntu uses in the installer?
[04:19] <tensorpudding> davefromcamp: i usually used ssh
[04:19] <Blue1> Ivanrad: indeed I do not understand.
[04:19] <Ivanrad> its connected to my windows pc whihc im on now... i want to install netbook remix onto the SSD
[04:19] <Blue1> Ivanrad: my netbook has 3 usb ports.
[04:19] <elijah> tensorpudding: Does Kubuntu just not install the partition manager it uses on install?
[04:20] <ZekeS> Ivanrad: if the netbook has a USB slot, put the Ubuntu netbook livecd on a flash drive - like on that page - then install it ON THE NETBOOK ITSELF
[04:20] <Ivanrad> i dont have a USB drive
[04:20] <Ivanrad> all i have is the SSD
[04:20] <Ivanrad> why cant i just install ubuntu onto the SSD from my windows
[04:20] <Blue1> Ivanrad: and I've give you directions on how I did that with a usb drive - it's the same idea
[04:20] <Ivanrad> i did that
[04:20] <Ivanrad> it said
[04:20] <Ivanrad> plz insert bootable media
[04:20] <Ivanrad> it diddnt install it as bootable media
[04:20] <julian-> Ivanrad/Blue1: I've missed the context, but Wubi?
[04:20] <ZekeS> julian-: noooooo
[04:21] <Blue1> Ivanrad: no one knows how to do that - -you normally boot off the livecd and go from there.
[04:21] <tensorpudding> Ivanrad: what do you mean by "install ubuntu onto the SSD"
[04:21] <Ivanrad> ok
[04:21] <Ivanrad> i have a netbook
[04:21] <Gnea> Ivanrad: did you go into your bios before it attempted to boot?
[04:21] <tensorpudding> Ivanrad: you want to make a partition on the SSD for Ubuntu?
[04:21] <Ivanrad> no
[04:21] <Ivanrad> no i didnt
[04:21] <Ivanrad> lemme try
[04:21] <Gnea> Ivanrad: you have to enter the bios to get it to make sure it sees the usb drive - it won't just automagically see it, you have to explicitly go to bios
[04:22] <Ivanrad> gnea but it had an ssd b4?
[04:22] <Ivanrad> why wouldnt it recognize this ssd
[04:22] <Gnea> Ivanrad: doesn't matter, I have a netbook
[04:22] <Malvoro> hi everybody someone of El Salvador
[04:22] <Gnea> Ivanrad: it uses a SATA connection, so it will think SCSI
[04:22] <Blue1> well this is how I put a bootable working ubuntu (not a livecd install) onto a flash drive -- YMMV http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=51
[04:22] <julian-> Ivanrad: You want to replace Windows on your netbook with Ubuntu, but lack an optical/USB drive to run the installer?
[04:22] <tensorpudding> Malvoro: there's a spanish-language channel if that is what you want
[04:23] <elijah> It says parted is installed and I did a search that suggests using kparted or qtparted, but parted isn't a GUI.
[04:23] <tensorpudding> !es | Malvoro
[04:23] <davefromcamp> mmm I don't know how to do that
[04:23] <davefromcamp> tensorpudding
[04:23] <elijah> kparted and qtparted don't come up in package search either
[04:24] <Ivanrad> pl
[04:24] <Ivanrad> im in the bios
[04:24] <Blue1> julian-: i think he's saying his netbook has no usb, and no nard drive - just ssd - and that would get him there.
[04:24] <hanasaki> is there a way to send network traffic through a user program? daemon?  basically want to do iptables.. but not via iptables.. all traffic goes through my program to determine what happens to it
[04:24] <julian-> BlueEagle: Yeah, that was what I was thinking.
[04:24] <julian-> blue1*
[04:24] <kneaux> okay why is it after purging wine, i reinstall it and my program information is still there
[04:24] <Blue1> hanasaki: webmin?
[04:25] <Ivanrad> does anyone here have a phone
[04:25] <julian-> Ivanrad: Would you mind restating your issue?
[04:25] <Ivanrad> plz
[04:25] <hanasaki> Blue that's login right?  this I snetowrk layer
[04:25] <elijah> nv, I will just get Gparted, was trying to stay withink the KDE realm but I don't think that is going to happen :D
[04:25] <Ivanrad> can i plz call someone i can explain it perfectly
[04:25] <Blue1> kneaux: did you delete the .wine directory?
[04:25] <Ivanrad> or u can call me on a blocked number
[04:25] <Ivanrad> i dont care
[04:25] <kneaux> blue1: yeah
[04:25] <Ivanrad> i just need to explain to someone
[04:25] <julian-> Ivanrad: Was I wrong?
[04:25] <Gnea> Ivanrad: you'll have to be patient and we can work it
[04:25] <renedox> Ivanrad: call about what?
[04:25] <Ivanrad> i have to describe the problem
[04:26] <Ivanrad> ok one more time
[04:26] <Gnea> Ivanrad: go to your boot devices and select the usb drive
[04:26] <ems> well this sucks.
[04:26] <ems> i might have to go back to windows :(
[04:26] <Blue1> hanasaki: http://www.webmin.com/
[04:26] <Oli````> I want to quickly benchmark my servers (at different companies) is there one app that will do a quick CPU, RAM and Disk benchmark and give me a metric I can compare with results obtained on another server?
[04:26] <Blue1> Oli````: boinc?
[04:26] <Ivanrad> 1: I have a netbook with a shitty SSD .. so i threw it out.. 2nd i just got a runcore ssd... im hooked up to the SSD thru a usb adapter onto my windows which im talking on now... i want to install netbook remix onto the SSD that is connected to my comp now
[04:26] <Gnea> julian-: he's got a usb drive, but he's on a netbook, which requires that, in order to boot a usb drive, you have to enter the bios and specifically select the device for the boot to work
[04:27] <yeastwars> ems: welcome to linux, the land of unpolished suckiness
[04:27] <Ivanrad> keep in mind the SSD has no data on it
[04:27] <Gnea> julian-: I stand corrected.
[04:27] <Oli````> Blue1: seems a little over the top... surely the has to be something smaller that can do a measurable workload
[04:27] <Blue1> Ivanrad: i just don't think you can do that from windows --
[04:27] <elijah>  I installed Gparted, it wants a password, I entered the right one 3 times, does Gparted require some other password I do not know about?
[04:27] <Ivanrad> why not
[04:28] <Ivanrad> its not that hard
[04:28] <kneaux> wth
[04:28] <yeastwars> I just plugged in a new monitor which has a different native resolution than my laptop's (1600x900 vs 1440x900). These are set properly in the monitor settings, yet it doesn't seem like the resolution is 1600x900 at all. It looks like a badly scaled 1280x720. Is there a way to check what the resolution really is?
[04:28] <Gnea> Ivanrad: does your windows machine allow booting from usb? doesn't matter if it's ssd or not.
[04:28] <Blue1> elijah: how are you running gparted?
[04:28] <kneaux> okay now i'm searching my entire partition for anything called wine
[04:28] <Ivanrad> im on the windows machine
[04:28] <hanasaki> Blue thanks.. not quite what I wanted.. :( I have looked at it before.
[04:28] <kneaux> thanks, apt
[04:28] <elijah> Blue1: GUI
[04:28] <Ivanrad> could i boot the netbook remix and install it onto the SSD
[04:28] <elijah> Blue1: On Kubuntu
[04:28] <Blue1> kneaux: the directory is usually ~/.wine
[04:28] <Gnea> Ivanrad: you could, yes
[04:28] <Blue1> Ivanrad: yes
[04:28] <Ivanrad> ok
[04:29] <renedox> Ivanrad: yes
[04:29] <julian-> Ivanrad: Can you burn a disc on the Windows machine and boot from that on it?
[04:29] <Blue1> Ivanrad: and I have given you directions on how to put it on a flash drive.  use ssd instead and gtg
[04:29] <Ivanrad> ya
[04:29] <julian-> Blue1: I thought he said he lacked a flashdrive.
[04:29] <Ivanrad> i did blue
[04:29] <elijah> Blue1: And, no, caps lock is not on :)
[04:29] <Ivanrad> it says no bootable media
[04:29] <kneaux> blue1: i know, that's the directory i deleted.
[04:29] <Ivanrad> the flash drive thing didnt install a bootloader
[04:29] <ZekeS> Blue1: the thing is he wants to stick the SSD in the netbook and run it as the netbook's main drive
[04:29] <kneaux> obviously the configuration information is...somewhere goddamn else
[04:29] <Blue1> julian-: he does, but you can still put ubuntu onto an ssd
[04:29] <ZekeS> Not an extension
[04:29] <ZekeS> err
[04:30] <ZekeS> Not as an external drive
[04:30] <julian-> Ivanrad: Am I missing something, or couldn't you just burn a CD/DVD, start up from it with the Windows machine, select Install, then when Ubuntu asks where to go, point it to the USB-connected SSD?
[04:30] <Blue1> ZekeS: http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=51
[04:30] <Ivanrad> yes
[04:30] <Ivanrad> julian exactly
[04:30] <julian-> (being ludicrously careful to ensure it doesn't decide it'd be really fun to nuke your own system)
[04:30] <Ivanrad> julians got it
[04:30] <julian-> Ivanrad: Actually, just boot from the SSD in the Windows machine
[04:30] <julian-> SATA will be much quicker without USB in the middle
[04:30] <Ivanrad> its not sata
[04:30] <Ivanrad> its ZIF
[04:30] <julian-> Oh lordy
[04:31] <Ivanrad> tiny ribbon cable
[04:31] <renedox> lol
[04:31] <renedox> either option will do
[04:31] <Ivanrad> but its connectr thru USB
[04:31] <Ivanrad> kk
[04:31] <renedox> just during the install
[04:31] <renedox> choose the right device
[04:31] <Ivanrad> so im going to boot into remix now
[04:31] <ems> yeastwars; land of oppertunity my a%% :)
[04:31] <Ivanrad> if anyone is willing to call me or help me i would paypal u money
[04:31] <julian-> Ivanrad: Considering my history with trying to install Linux on external drives, I'd probably yank my internal ;)
[04:31] <Ivanrad> what do u mean
[04:31] <Ivanrad> it wont install to the SSD
[04:31] <mobasher> Ivanrad:=] lol paypal
[04:32] <Blue1> julian-: the precation is given in my directions
[04:32] <mobasher> Ivanrad:=] aren't u better off on windows if u have to paypal to others..lol
[04:32] <mardok> Does anyone know why iwconfig can pick up wireless fields, but dhcp doesn't work?
[04:32] <julian-> Ivanrad: Nah, I just mean I had the installer randomly decide in the past that it'd go ahead and install on my internal drive even after I'd said to install on an external.
[04:33] <Blue1> julian btdt
[04:33] <julian-> I'm still not entirely sure if I just missed something in the partitioner, though it just makes me paranoid enough to do a full backup before I install a new OS, even to an external ;)
[04:33] <Ivanrad> it wont install to the SSD
[04:33] <Ivanrad> kk one moire time.. the windows machine im on now im going to boot up netbook remix.. then point installation to my SSD which is connected thru the USB
[04:33] <Ivanrad> ignore the it wont install
[04:34] <julian-> heh
[04:34] <Blue1> k
[04:34] <Ivanrad> it should work right?
[04:34] <renedox> yes
[04:34] <Ivanrad> k
[04:34] <julian-> Ivanrad: It isn't Windows, so it should be fine with an external drive for install ;)
[04:34] <Ivanrad> then im going to install the SSD into my netbook and it should boot up fine
[04:34] <julian-> That's the plan.
[04:35] <Ivanrad> kk
[04:35] <Ivanrad> i hope this works guys
[04:35] <Blue1> Ivanrad: should work, follow the recipe
[04:35] <elijah> Does Gparted have a magic, default password?
[04:35] <yeastwars> any idea why my new monitor, which is set to 1600x900, is actually displaying stuff in 1400x900? My other screen (laptop) happens to be 1400x900 so I guess this might have something to do with it?
[04:35] <Ivanrad> is it easy to point to the external drive
[04:35] <Ivanrad> like no sudo shit...
[04:35] <julian-> yeastlord3: Is it displaying everything?
[04:35] <Ivanrad> btw should i format the SSD or will remix do that
[04:35] <mobasher> if it works don't forget to paypal please ;)
[04:35] <Ivanrad> k
[04:36] <Blue1> Ivanrad: I'd use ext2 with ssd, not ext4
[04:36] <Ivanrad> k
[04:36] <tensorpudding> eh?
[04:36] <tensorpudding> ext2?
[04:36] <yeastwars> julian-: yes, assuming you meant yeastwars
[04:36] <Blue1> Ivanrad: ext2 is NON-jounaled and ssd isn't all that fast.
[04:36] <Ivanrad> SSD? isnt fast.. its 97 mb/s
[04:37] <yeastwars> julian-: it just looks like the wrong resolution
[04:37] <julian-> Ivanrad: Sudo would mean a system would need to be installed already, as sudo basically says "I am the master user, don't even think about pulling that permissions crap with me", and seeing as you haven't got anything for it to be bothered about permissions about yet since the disk is blank, it should be fine.
[04:37] <elijah> Ivanrad: you mean MB/s
[04:37] <Ivanrad> ya
[04:37] <julian-> yeastwars: Sorry, I meant is it mirroring?
[04:37] <elijah> mb/s would be anciently slow
[04:37] <yeastwars> julian-: I'm pretty sure the configuration gui is lying to me
[04:37] <yeastwars> julian-: what do you mean mirroring?
[04:37] <Blue1> Ivanrad: my bad.  I only have experience with usb and it's NOT that fast trust me
[04:37] <Ivanrad> k
[04:37] <julian-> yeastwars: Is one display showing the same stuff as the other.
[04:37] <yeastwars> julian-: no, they're independent
[04:37] <Ivanrad> i love ubuntu netbook remix
[04:37] <elijah> Blue1: Intel and Corsair SSD are Uberfast
[04:37] <julian-> Blue1: USB is far, far slower, and SSDs use much better NAND than most flash drives.
[04:37] <Ivanrad> ya
[04:38] <Blue1> julian-: only ssd I have is mp3 player, and it's slow (class 2)
[04:38] <xid> anyone know why there aren't any small EC2 instance available?
[04:38] <julian-> Blue1: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/182?vs=152
[04:38] <Ivanrad> ight guys im off
[04:38] <Ivanrad> last call for anyone who will stay on the phone with me
[04:39] <Blue1> Ivanrad: good luck d00d
[04:39] <Ivanrad> and help me
[04:39] <julian-> Ivanrad: Good luck, ensure you read the instructions carefully.
[04:39] <Ivanrad> instructions?
[04:39] <julian-> In the installer
[04:39] <Ivanrad> kk
[04:39] <elijah> Well, Gparted just doesn't work on Kubuntu, or at least this version has a bug. Will not accept my password no matter what. Tried at least 10 times.
[04:39] <tensorpudding> Using ext2 might save you on writes, but not having a journal means that you're at risk if your machine crashes
[04:39] <chaz> I'm installing 10.04 from the alternate cd. It boots on the cd fine but after I select my language and keyboard it says it cannot find a common cd-rom drive. I have a sata connected hard drive and dvd-rom drive how do I get the installer to work correctly? It should detect it if it could boot off it?
[04:39] <julian-> Ivanrad: If you just want Linux on it, just tell it to use the whole disk and let it sort it out.
[04:39] <Ivanrad> kk
[04:40] <elijah> I can launch Gparted using sudo gparted via cli with the same password.
[04:40] <elijah> very odd
[04:40] <Blue1> elijah: what do you want to do?
[04:40] <yeastwars> julian-: and for some reason, mplayer/totem aren't displaying anything (black)
[04:41] <elijah> Blue1: I was trying to launch the Gparted GUI via Krunner (like Gnome Do), a password prompt came up and ignores the correct password everytime.
[04:41] <Blue1> elijah: normally run gparted off the livecd
[04:41]  * julian- remembers he actually came in here for help
[04:41] <elijah> Blue1: Why?
[04:42] <rhett> hiya
[04:42] <Blue1> elijah: gparted requires the disc to be unmounted
[04:42] <rhett> I'm running 10.04.  I have wireless internet on 192.168.55.1 as the gateway, but I also want to connect to an internal wired network over ethernet on 192.168.0.1
[04:43] <julian-> yeastwars: Yeah, I'm sorry but I have no idea, though considering my epic n00bness..
[04:43] <rhett> so, I can do that, but when I do, I see both connections on ifconfig, but my web surfing no longer works
[04:43] <elijah> Blue1: That is assuming you are working on only the OS partition. I have multiple partitions, definitely not interested in running off a love cd
[04:43] <elijah> *live
[04:43] <rhett> I want the browser to use the connection on wlan0 instead of eth0
[04:43] <elijah> Blue1: Gparted let me unmount the partition I wanted to resize.
[04:43] <Blue1> rhett: dumb question - you did pull the ethernet cable, yes?
[04:44] <elijah> I just wish I could launch it via Krunner and not CLI.
[04:44] <Blue1> elijah: okay YMMV
[04:44] <rhett> Blue1, when i pull out the ethernet cable, web surfing and irc works fine
[04:44] <rhett> I want to stay connected to both networks though
[04:45] <Blue1> rhett: I can't confirm this but my experience is, (at least with my netbook) it seems to prefer hardwire over wireless
[04:45] <chaz> I'm installing 10.04 from the alternate cd. It boots on the cd fine but after I select my language and keyboard it says it cannot find a common cd-rom drive. I have a sata connected hard drive and dvd-rom drive how do I get the installer to work correctly? It should detect it if it could boot off it?
[04:45] <julian-> So, now that Ivanrad is off, I've only got a Bluetooth keyboard, any ideas as to how I can install Ubuntu and actually be able to switch between it and Windows?
[04:45] <Blue1> chaz: let's backup did the download md5sum correctly?
[04:45] <rhett> that's what's happening to be, Blue1.  Is there a way to change it?
[04:46] <Blue1> rhett: there might be, but I never got any further investigating it.
[04:46] <chaz> Blue1: yes the dvd is working i've used it on another system
[04:46] <Blue1> chaz: no not what I asked, is the md5sum on the download correct?
[04:46] <Blue1> !md5sum | chaz
[04:47] <chaz> Blue1: just checked it, and it matches the one I just downloaded for it
[04:48] <Blue1> chaz: kewl at least we know you got a good download - always first place to start. so you've booted the alt. install cd, and it comes to the point where it can't find the cd or dvd?  one quick question.  did you burn the iso onto a cd or dvd?
[04:49] <chaz> Blue1: onto a dvd, it seems the bios recognizes the drive and understans how to mount and read it to load the ramfs into memory, but ubuntu does not contain a driver in the ramfs for the sata dvd drive.. so I'm thinking I need to modprobe a driver
[04:54] <Blue1> my!  people come and go so quickly here.
[04:54] <BiggFREE> It is like a highway
[04:54] <Blue1> BiggFREE: indeed
[04:54] <BiggFREE> lol
[04:55] <Blue1> BiggFREE: extra points if you know what movie that line is from.
[04:55] <BiggFREE> ?
[04:55] <Blue1> BiggFREE: dorothy said that after the witch disappeared.
[04:56] <julian-> Blue1: AiA?
[04:56] <BiggFREE> Blue1: ... I do not know :(
[04:56] <actionParsnip> Blue1: is it from Victoria Givens, a biography ;)
[04:56] <Blue1> julian-: the wizard of oz
[04:56] <julian-> Blue1: Darn
[04:56] <julian-> Blue1: There's a line like it in AiA
[04:56] <AndrewMC> !ot
[04:57] <bonez2046> any apps that include chat and web cam ?
[04:57] <Blue1> juyeah yea
[04:57] <kronosphere> who is img.myfreecams.com ?
[04:57] <actionParsnip> bonez2046: what protocol?
[04:57] <bonez2046> actionParsnip: protocol? You mean I get to choose?
[04:57] <actionParsnip> bonez2046: msn? aim? yahoo?
[04:58] <bonez2046> oh, my friend has a yahoo account..
[04:58] <bonez2046> I am running irssi
[04:58] <actionParsnip> bonez2046: gyache can do it afaik
[04:58] <bonez2046> but glad to run some other..
[04:58] <actionParsnip> bonez2046: amsn can do cam over msn
[04:58] <kronosphere> is there a malware type of app to clean malware from our ubuntu ?
[05:00] <bonez2046> thanks..
[05:01] <wevl> I have a ubuntu 10.04 question. Am I in the right place?
[05:01] <tensorpudding> wevl: yes
[05:02] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: you have malware?
[05:02] <gstarx90> kronosphere, avast
[05:02] <wevl> After not using my machine for while, when I return, I have to log in again. Is there a way to turn this automatic log out off?
[05:03] <kronosphere> i think, a little globe was at the top of my panel, and it was some img.myfreecams.com (sounds like a sex site)
[05:03] <kronosphere> ty gstarx90
[05:04] <kronosphere> tensorpudding: does that sound like malware?
[05:05] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: on your ubuntu panel?
[05:06] <harovali> I have a 9.10 machine booted in recovery mode, since some critical libraries got misteriously broken (which make the normal system functioning impossible). Now, I'd like to run some sort of package recovering routine, which the recovery menu does offer as an option. But since I only could awaken the ethernet interface from the netroot option, and these settings seem to be lost if I ctrl-d , I'd like to run some apt command t
[05:06] <kronosphere> tensorpudding: yes
[05:06] <kronosphere> tensorpudding: rigth next to the battery symbol
[05:06] <kronosphere> *right
[05:06] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: huh
[05:07] <kronosphere> tensorpudding: next to the battery power indicator, the volume indicator, at the top of the ubunt panel
[05:08] <Blue1> harovali: have you tried sudo apt-get -f install
[05:08] <kronosphere> anyway, i clicked remove from panel, and it removed
[05:08] <julian-> Hmm, is there a way to get my BT keyboard recognised during install?
[05:09] <thune3> harovali: debsums is a program that compares installed files against their md5sums at the time of install. It might be able to show you libs that are broken. (i'm not clear on your issue exactly though)
[05:11] <neil_d> I found out how to make network-manager start a wi-fi connection at bootup... but this didn't affect my problem.. at shutdown the system still seems to disconnect the wi-fi before unmounting the samba shares... then taking forever (sometime hours) to shutdown... any ideas on fixing this?
[05:12] <PreZ> ugh.  I downloaded Ubuntu 10.10 (beta) CD ... trying to launch Ubiquity gives a bus error :(
[05:12] <neil_d> PreZ: try the ubuntu+1 channel.
[05:14] <actionParsnip> neil_d: you may have to add the unmounts to your session logout so they unmount before the wifi dies
[05:14] <Galaxor> I'm trying to start tftpd-hpa.  in.tftpd -L -s -v.  It crashes immediately, printing nothing on the screen, leaving nothing in /var/log/messages, and returning error code 64.  Is there some other log file I should look at?
[05:15] <neil_d> actionParsnip: I suppose that would work as a patch... but I would need to add them for every user.
[05:15] <kronosphere> gstarx90: is it necessary to run an antivirus protection app on linux?
[05:15] <gstarx90> kronosphere, no unless you do stupid stuff as root
[05:15] <Galaxor> answer:  /var/log/daemon.log
[05:16] <actionParsnip> neil_d: true, i get the same but i just shutdown and leave the device on the side to die :)
[05:16] <PreZ> I only use av to virus scan emails on servers I have a mail server on
[05:16] <kronosphere> well, im on my 4th day on ubuntu, not sure what would be stupid yet! :)
[05:16] <actionParsnip> kronosphere: it is if you use samba and windows clients to protect them from each other
[05:17] <neil_d> actionParsnip: I used to... but one time it was still trying to shutdown 2 hours latter (on battery power).
[05:17] <actionParsnip> neil_d: log a bug is all I can suggest
[05:17] <kronosphere> what is samba? Am i automatically using samba if i am dual booted winxp and ubuntu?
[05:18] <Blue1> kronosphere: samba allows linux to read/write to a windows file system
[05:18] <kronosphere> i see. so there is a chance i might need samba sometimes if i am dual booted, right?
[05:19] <neil_d> Blue1: that is a windows share... generally from a different computer..
[05:19] <thune3> neil_d: the way you have it setup, does network manager close when the session closes or later on?
[05:19] <Blue1> kronosphere: neil_d is correct my bad
[05:20] <neil_d> thune3: don't know... the interface stays up now after I log out of gnome.
[05:20] <Blue1> kronosphere: you can generally mount the windows partition in fstab
[05:20] <Blue1> kronosphere: if it's a local device that is.
[05:20] <actionParsnip> kronosphere: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[05:22] <kronosphere> nice help article actionParsnip thankyou
[05:22] <EMPulse> hey guys, does anyone know how to enable Firestarter on startup on Ubuntu netbook edition? I used the start-up program and added "Sudo firestarter", but it never works. Thanks.
[05:23] <Blue1> EMPulse: sudo rcconf iirc
[05:23] <EMPulse> ?
[05:23] <EMPulse> Blue1, what does that do?
[05:23] <bobboau> I have a mythbunu virgin install, I have two hvr1600s in it, when I have just one card (tried both of them) it works fine, but when both are in it I get a panic. can someone tell me how to fix this please
[05:23] <Blue1> EMPulse: that allows you to control which programmes run at startup time...
[05:24] <kronosphere> Blue1 thank you
[05:24] <EMPulse> Blue1, thanks.
[05:24] <Blue1> EMPulse: you are welcome
[05:25] <thune3> neil_d: either do shares mounting through gnome (instead of fstab), or maybe add a pre-stop script section to /etc/init/network-manager.conf that unmounts your samba.
[05:25] <kronosphere> but does that answer my question about needing to run anti-vifus and anti malware apps? Do I need those?
[05:25] <madfox> no
[05:25] <thune3> no?
[05:26] <Blue1> i have never run a/v software in linux.  ever.
[05:26] <Blue1> well, except with windows in a virtual box, but that's all
[05:26] <blag> does the ubuntu one client run on windows?
[05:26] <madfox> kronosphere thune3 ya dont need a/v for linux unless you are receiving a file and plan to pass it on to a windows comp
[05:26] <thune3> linux *can* get malware, just not "viruses" so to speak
[05:26] <Blue1> true
[05:26] <kronosphere> ok, thats a relief, i don't want to have to start bogging down linux with that stuff
[05:27] <roved2101> what's a virus kronosphere??
[05:27] <bobboau> I have been told that my problem looks like a resource conflict, but I have no idea how to resolve this
[05:27] <Blue1> bobboau: maybe you could describe the problem?
 that is a good question, I don't think it does.
[05:28] <bobboau> I just reinstalled mythbuntu 10.04, I didn't have any cards in the system when I did the install, it boots up fine when I have either of the two hvr-1600s in it, but if I have both it dies with a bunch or errors
[05:28] <bobboau> Kernel panic - not syncing: fatal machine check
[05:28] <bobboau> Pid: 0, comm:swapper Tainted G M 2.6.32-24-generic #42-Ubuntu
[05:28] <bobboau> [drm:drm_fb_helper_panic] *ERROR* panic occurred, switching back to text console
[05:28] <kronosphere> i installed ubuntu the easy way, using the wubi installer. is it true that the performance is going to deteriorate because of the type of install?
[05:29] <thune3> bobboau: if the driver for your hardware doesn't support multiple cards, then you will not be able to use multiple cards
[05:29] <bobboau> are some of the messages that stand out to me
[05:29] <Blue1> bobboau: you'd need someone with more experience the I, I have no clue what an hvr is.
[05:29] <bobboau> it is a tuner card
[05:29] <neil_d> thune3: there doesn't seem to be anything (of relevance) in /etc/init/network-manager.conf .... can I setup gnome to mount samba shares upon startup?
[05:29] <bobboau> it is a tuner card
[05:29] <bobboau> I was just in the mythtv chanel they told me to ask here
[05:30] <buzzard32> neil yes
[05:30] <thune3> neil_d: doing it though gnome would be mounted during the session only. And for network-manager.conf, you could *add* a pre-stop script section that does samba unmounting.
[05:30] <Blue1> bobboau: pardon my stupidity - is that like a tv tuner card?
[05:30] <bobboau> I see no mention of multiple cards not being supported
[05:30] <bobboau> yes
[05:30] <Blue1> bobboau: ahh never played with those - I got tivo
[05:31] <thune3> bobboau: multiple cards in linux would seem to work in the other direction by default, if multiple identical cards are supported then THAT would be mentioned
[05:31] <BiggFREE> bobboau: ... Is it like WIN TV ?
[05:32] <strAlan> lshw is showing two *-network outputs for 1 wireless card. Why is this?
[05:33] <bobboau> well, the guys on the mythtv channel suggested that I manualy load the modules,  and assignt different resources to them, I asked them how to do that and they told me to ask here
[05:35] <Oli````> htop
[05:35] <bobboau> then they started talking about wressling on the scifi channel...
[05:36] <Blue1> eesh
[05:37] <actionParsnip> strAlan: some do that, one will be the actual card. You may need wicd
[05:37] <strAlan> actionParsnip: I'm helping a user on UF in the Net&Wless forum
[05:37] <strAlan> actionParsnip: and he's getting that output
[05:37] <strAlan> for a BCM4306
[05:38] <actionParsnip> strAlan: try one, if its bad, use the other
[05:38] <bobstro> when i shut down or log out, i get an annoying "a program is still running" dialog box, and the list shows "unknown". this happened after enabling, then disabling auto-login. i've read of others with the same issue, but have found no fix. it happens even if i log in, then immediately reboot or logout. i've gone through ps and seen nothing unusual.
[05:38] <zeknox> when you add a route to an ubuntu server with the route add command, does it stay in place even after a reboot?
[05:38] <bobstro> this also happens with other user accounts on this computer.
[05:38] <strAlan> actionParsnip: yeah I'm just going to move on and assume that output won't be a problem
[05:38] <thedanny09> ls
[05:38] <actionParsnip> zeknox: no, add it in /etc/rc.local
[05:38] <thedanny09> ping
[05:39] <actionParsnip> !ping | thedanny09
[05:39]  * ede_ Ping | Could not be resolved to an IP address
[05:39] <ChogyDan> bobstro: try wiping the the autostart folder, something like .config/gnome-session
[05:39] <thune3> neil_d: i guess another approach might be to have interface managed by networking instead of network-manager, but i'm not sure how to do that.
[05:39] <zeknox> actionParsnip: just add the entire route command like I was typing it in cli
[05:39] <bobstro> ChogyDan:  ok, thanks
[05:39] <thedanny09> everyone in this room, go to wendys, and order a baconator
[05:40] <actionParsnip> zeknox: absolutely, without the sudo bit, and above the exit 0 line
[05:40] <ChogyDan> bobstro: then the saved-session folder
[05:40] <actionParsnip> !ot | thedanny09
[05:41] <bobstro> ChogyDan:  ok, let me try logging out and back in
[05:41] <PreZ> Why does the 64-bit version say 'not recommended for daily desktop usage' on the Ubuntu download page?
[05:42] <zeknox> actionParsnip: thanks man!  can you put any command in there that you want to boot on startup?
[05:42] <ChogyDan> PreZ: prolly cause some stuff doesn't work with it
[05:42] <Blue1> PreZ: don't know I use it everyday for a desktop and it seems to work fine
[05:43] <thune3> PreZ: because of small problems and incompatibilities with 3rd party software that you might encounter. Anyone with apt/command line proficiency could handle 64-bit.
[05:43] <actionParsnip> zeknox: thats exactly what it's for. It will be ran just before the login prompt appears, graphical or cli. If the command is a persistant service then end the command with an ampersand or the system will never boot
[05:44] <actionParsnip> PreZ: companys like brother only make 32bit drivers for example.
[05:45] <PreZ> I'm tossing up whether to install ubuntu or gentoo on my re-built desktop
[05:45] <bobstro> ChogyDan:  no such luck. i'll keep trying session-related things.
[05:45] <harovali> Blue1: thune3: thanks
[05:45] <ChogyDan> bobstro: you wiped the saved-session folder?
[05:46] <ChogyDan> bobstro: nvm,nvm
[05:46] <harovali> How do I tell which package does /lib/libpam.so.0 belong to ?
[05:46] <actionParsnip> harovali: dpkg -S libpam.so.0
[05:46] <harovali> actionParsnip: thank you
[05:46] <bobstro> ChogyDan:  yes, i tried that an rebooted. same issue.
[05:47] <bobstro> ChogyDan:  i'm disabling startup applications as well now.
[05:47] <Blue1> sorry linux does no magic.  if you want the ip address of your other computer, only way I know of is to do an ifconfig on that computer, and then you can put the info in /etc/hosts
[05:47] <Blue1> oops wrong guy.
[05:48] <Crankygeek01> If I want something to start during boot what would I do?
[05:48] <actionParsnip> Blue1: could use dig, it will use dns magic ;)
[05:49] <Blue1> actionParsnip: never heard of it, I will have to try it.
[05:49] <Doyle> Blue1: depending on how many computers are on the network a simple device discovery tool may be enough...
[05:49] <actionParsnip> Crankygeek01: add the command in /etc/rc.local    add an ampersand on the end and don't use sudo. Also add it above exit 0. It will then run as root also
[05:49] <thune3> Crankygeek01: you hit it in the mouth, in the morning. Then you put it in /etc/rc.local
[05:49] <actionParsnip> Blue1: ;)
[05:50] <Crankygeek01> Thank you!
[05:53] <luw> hi in my irc client, how can i automaticly join channels that i have on my list?
[05:53] <luw> client is default one that comes with ubuntu
[05:53] <Doyle> luw: waht client?
[05:53] <Fudge> hi can anyone tell me how to configure the xorg dummy dirver?
[05:53] <luw> sorry, xchat-gnome 0.26.1
[05:54] <EMPulse> hey guys
[05:54] <EMPulse> Is it true that firestarter isn't that well supported anymore?
[05:54] <luw> Doyle: i thought i configured it, but i only join the servers i selected, not the channels
[05:54] <Doyle> luw: here's a good reference http://wiki.foresightlinux.org/display/docs/Xchat-GNOME
[05:54] <Doyle> luw: have a look, let me know how it works
[05:55] <Crankygeek01> Has anyone else had problems with Team viewer on ubuntu 10.10?
[05:55] <TheVince> hello all
[05:56] <Doyle> Crankygeek01: what kind of problems?
[05:56] <Crankygeek01> I can't get it to install
[05:57] <Doyle> Crankygeek01: download from website?
[05:57] <fluvvell> does anyone know exactly what the ipod initialise function does in Lucid and how to undo it? Its broken my wifes new ipod
[05:58] <Doyle> Crankygeek01: teamviewer_linux.deb what what I used
[05:58] <Crankygeek01> Yes, from the site...giving a validation error
[05:59] <Doyle> Crankygeek01: more specifics on the error please, when durring the install does it occure, what is the exact text of the error?
[05:59] <Ivanrad> hey all
[05:59] <Ivanrad> finally found a usb stick
[06:00] <thune3> Crankygeek01: my wild guess is an incomplete download
[06:00] <Crankygeek01> It happens as soon as I start the install. I'll have to go try it again to get the exact error
[06:00] <Doyle> luw: wb
[06:01] <kevdog> 'sup
[06:01] <Doyle> Crankygeek01: ok, let me know what it is
[06:01] <Doyle> luw: did that work?
[06:01] <Crankygeek01> I have tried downloading it for the last 3 days with no luck on install
[06:01] <luw> hi Doyle.  thank you, it worked for the channels in my OFTC network, but not in my freenode network
[06:02] <Doyle> Crankygeek01: you don't have to download it again, just run the one you have
[06:02] <Doyle> Crankygeek01: it'll be in ~/Downloads by default
[06:02] <Crankygeek01> Right...but I tried because I thought it was a faulty download
[06:03] <Doyle> luw: ah, freenode takes a while for my client to connect to, it may be running the join command too soon for the network to catch it
[06:03] <Doyle> luw: since it works on one network, it's not the client
[06:03] <Ivanrad> wow
[06:03] <Ivanrad> for some reason the zif connector doesnt work...
[06:04] <Doyle> luw: I remember back in the day there was a delay option on some clients, have a look around to see if you can delay the joins by a few seconds. I'm not too familiar with Xchat beyond the basics
[06:05] <Doyle> Ivanrad: they're delicate...
[06:05] <luw> Doyle: ok great.  also before, i didnt have the # infront at first (guess i didnt need it).  so should i wait for it to join those channels it didnt join?
[06:05] <luw> Doyle: again thank you for your help
[06:05] <Votan> someone tries to send me a file on empathy, .... where the heck can I accept it ? I do not get a dialog like in Windows Live Messenger under windows ?
[06:06] <luw> (guess i didnt need it i meant "guess I THOUGHT i didnt need it"
[06:06] <Doyle> luw: typically # is necessary, but people are lazy and a lot of programmers setup the program to enter it automatically if the user doesn't. Try putting # in front. Can't hurt.
[06:07] <Ivanrad> so
[06:07] <Ivanrad> i dont get this
[06:07] <luw> Doyle: sorry for the confusion.  at first i didnt have that # (why it didnt work for OFTC channels).  then i read your tutorial and i added the #.  now it does (for OFTC).
[06:07] <Ivanrad> r there different zif connectors
[06:07] <Doyle> Votan: look around in preferences, it may be set to ignore all files... typically you want web apps setup to prompt user for all sends. You can also specify the download directory.
[06:07] <Ivanrad> cause my runcore sent me a zif ribbon
[06:08] <Ivanrad> and now my os wont detect it
[06:08] <Doyle> Ivanrad: zif connector just specifies the type of mechanism, ti can be made in many sizes.
[06:09] <Ivanrad> well
[06:09] <Ivanrad> that explains it
[06:09] <Ivanrad> so my hp minis zif connector wont work with my runcore zif connector
[06:09] <Doyle> Ivanrad: if you do a google images search for zif connector you'll see a few dozen different types I'm sure
[06:10] <Doyle> Ivanrad: if it looks like it'll fit, count the connectors on the ribbon and receiver, if they match up - cool.
[06:10] <Ivanrad> they do
[06:10] <Ivanrad> i dont get why it doesnt match up
[06:10] <Votan> Doyle I agree, but the preferences Menu in empathy seems to be quite limited, there isnt even the possibility to configure anything related to filetransfers... or is there some kind of advanced Menu in empathy which I haven'T found yet ?
[06:10] <Doyle> Ivanrad: products from different manufacturers can be annoying
[06:10] <Ivanrad> but they look exactly the same
[06:10] <luw> Ivanrad: what are you tring to connect to with a ZIF?
[06:11] <Jonathan> Hello
[06:11] <Ivanrad> ok
[06:11] <Doyle> ssd?
[06:11] <Ivanrad> i swapped my 1116nr ssd
[06:11] <Ivanrad> with a run core
[06:11] <Ivanrad> the ribbon that is stock doesnt fit
[06:11] <Ivanrad> so they gave me two more ribbons
[06:13] <luw> so im guessing it isnt just sata or something standard?
[06:13] <Doyle> Votan: it may be an old version of empathy, until this year empathy didn't support file receiving
[06:14] <Votan> Doyle i am actually on maverick and got the telepathy-team ppa added to my repos so my version should be pretty bleeding edge, but i think the empathy options menu is stripped down in ubuntu and i haven#t figured out how to get the full one yet
[06:15] <Doyle> Ivanrad: that's really weird, should work perfectly
[06:15] <Doyle> Ivanrad: what happens exactly, drive isn't detected at all, even at BIOS level?
[06:15] <Ivanrad> ya
[06:15] <Ivanrad> exactly
[06:16] <Doyle> Ivanrad: There shouldn't be any incongruencies between drive manufacturers as to the specifications of the products they manufacturer
[06:16] <Doyle> Ivanrad: it happens though... just get them to replace it.
[06:17] <Doyle> Ivanrad: maybe it was exposed to some kind of radiation durring shipping that fried the control board
[06:25] <Doyle> Cmon! Someone with a hard question!
[06:25] <SoulShadow> where do babies come from?
[06:26] <frobisher> !ot
[06:26] <SoulShadow> well hey he said hard question
[06:26] <Doyle> SoulShadow: first a man and women fall in love, then they ebay "baby"
[06:27] <SoulShadow> lmao
[06:27] <SoulShadow> +1 internets to you
[06:27] <frobisher> lol
[06:27] <Doyle> lol
[06:28] <Doyle> If no one's going to challenge me tonight I might just play some Battle for Wesnoth
[06:28] <Doyle> gnight all
[06:28] <frobisher> Which is better Gnome or KDE?
[06:28] <actionParsnip> SoulShadow: well mummy and daddy love each other very much and daddy gives mummy a special hug ;)
[06:29] <actionParsnip> frobisher: neither is better, both have advantages and weaknesses
[06:29] <SoulShadow> well
[06:29] <SoulShadow> a pro of Gnome is it doesn't look designed by a 5 year old
[06:29] <frobisher> TY
[06:29] <actionParsnip> frobisher: try both, see which you like
[06:29] <SoulShadow> @ actionParsnip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOVeDwFLd1Q
[06:29] <actionParsnip> frobisher: there are more DEs than that too
[06:29] <SoulShadow> LXDE is nice and light, i'm kind of a fan of that
[06:30] <noisewaterphd> frobisher: they are both good. right now I'd say gnome is better, especially on Ubuntu, but KDE is showing promise of kicking some but again withing a few versions
[06:30] <actionParsnip> SoulShadow: +1 LXDE :)
[06:30] <SoulShadow> but lightweight doesn't really make ad ifference to me
[06:30] <SoulShadow> on my i7
[06:30] <SoulShadow> lol
[06:31] <prince_jammys> try them and decide
[06:31] <actionParsnip> SoulShadow: its just leaves more ram and cpu for other apps, makes the cpu run using less power too as you arent stressing it so much
[06:31] <Name141> is it possible to get notified when you need to restart the machine via ssh/terminal ?
[06:31] <Name141> after updates
[06:31] <frobisher> I have found that different distributions do the desktop differently.And that that matters too.
[06:31] <SoulShadow> 6gb ram, i7-920 <333
[06:32] <actionParsnip> frobisher: indeed, but underneath its all the same, linux
[06:32] <actionParsnip> SoulShadow: i work on servers which dwarf that signifiocantly
[06:32] <SoulShadow> desktop computer != server
[06:32] <SoulShadow> :D
[06:32] <actionParsnip> SoulShadow: it can be
[06:32] <SoulShadow> well yeah
[06:33] <SoulShadow> if i tossed an SSD in here it could double as a low end server
[06:33] <frobisher> actionParsnip:you are right.
[06:33] <actionParsnip> frobisher: just have a play, see what the OS can do. You'll break it a lot and reinstall etc but you'll learn a lot
[06:35] <frobisher> actionParsnip: Yea,but first I have to fix my computer so that I can dump wubi.
[06:36] <duckx0r> when doing a grub-install is the --root-directory where / is or where /boot/ is?
[06:36] <madjoe> How to let PHP to freely chmod folders on my Ubuntu?
[06:37] <actionParsnip> madjoe: sounds dangerous to me
[06:38] <madjoe> actionParsnip: well, I have to let it store user's data on my server - since there are so many of them, I should organize it in separate folders
[06:39] <noisewaterphd> SoulShadow: i just did a 240gig SSD for the system drive last month with 2 sets of mirrored 2.5tb drives for storage.  Performance increase is substantial!
[06:39] <madjoe> actionParsnip: think of it as Facebook's user galleries
[06:39] <SoulShadow> noisewaterphd: i'm looking at a 300gb intel
[06:39] <SoulShadow> whenit comes out
[06:39] <actionParsnip> madjoe: then give each user ownership of their own folder (maybe)
[06:40] <Flannel> duckx0r: /
[06:40] <actionParsnip> noisewaterphd: its still a SATA interface so yo u are limited to 300Mb/s
[06:40] <noisewaterphd> SoulShadow: definitely worth it IMO
[06:40] <madjoe> actionParsnip: there will be 100 of thousands of users that will create 100's of folders...
[06:40] <SoulShadow> modern ssd's don't saturate the sata2 bus
[06:40] <noisewaterphd> actionParsnip: so
[06:40] <SoulShadow> one ssd can read higher than sata2
[06:41] <madjoe> actionParsnip: each folder that is created now is a chown of www-data:www-data
[06:42] <actionParsnip> noisewaterphd: there is a PCI-express 16x SD card reader which (although not bootable) gives 2.5Gb/s
[06:42] <actionParsnip> noisewaterphd: as the data goes direct onto the PCI bus rather than through a slow SATA controller
[06:43] <SoulShadow> actionParsnip: doesn't matter if the ssd can't utilize it
[06:43] <actionParsnip> SoulShadow: why wouldnt it, SSD is a defacto standard
[06:44] <shai> Hi :) Do you know what the difference is between /usr/bin/sar and /usr/lib64/sa/sa1 and sa1 and sadc ? I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 if it makes any diff...
[06:44] <Zyklon> what's the cmd for closing firefox from cmd line?
[06:45] <SoulShadow> current SSD's cannot saturate the SATA bus
[06:45] <saik0> Zyklon killall firefox, (or maybe firefox-bin)
[06:45] <SoulShadow> and besides
[06:45] <SoulShadow> we have SATA 3
[06:45] <SoulShadow> anyway
[06:45] <actionParsnip> Zyklon: killall firefox
[06:45] <Zyklon> nope still getting that it's running
[06:45] <Zyklon> so can't open a new :/
[06:46] <fratzbc> ps auxf | grep firefox
[06:46] <fratzbc> get the id and kill it
[06:46] <Zyklon> from ps -aux?
[06:46] <SoulShadow> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148349&cm_re=crucial_c300-_-20-148-349-_-Product  <-- only current SSD capable of above SATA 2 throughput
[06:46] <saik0>  Zyklon: If that does not work kill -9 <<process id>>
[06:46] <Zyklon> actionParsnip: any easy way to get the d?
[06:46] <Zyklon> id*
[06:46] <SoulShadow> and as you'll notice that's only in read
[06:47] <actionParsnip> Zyklon: you can use: kill `pidof firefox`     if you want
[06:47] <Zyklon> kill `pidof firefox`
[06:47] <Zyklon> like that?
[06:47] <maco> Zyklon: why not "pkill firefox"?
[06:47] <actionParsnip> SoulShadow: magnetic ram will be sweet :). Keeps the data in the ram even after power off, RAM data rate is phenominal
[06:48] <Zyklon> returns didn't get killed or something
[06:48] <Zyklon> but when I try start it up I get in use or already running
[06:48] <SoulShadow> actionParsnip: think mainstream, not future tech :P
[06:48] <Zyklon> admin@ks33885:~$ sudo killall firefox
[06:48] <Zyklon> firefox: no process killed
[06:48] <Zyklon> I get in return
[06:48] <actionParsnip> Zyklon: if you run:    ps -ef | grep -i fire       the leftmost value is the PID (or program ID). You can kill that
[06:48] <tensorpudding> Zyklon: sounds like firefox has quit then
[06:48] <actionParsnip> SoulShadow: always look to the future ;)
[06:48] <Zyklon> ok
[06:49] <SoulShadow> then you'll always be waiting actionParsnip :p
[06:49] <Zyklon> tensorpudding: why it say it's not when I try starting it up again then?
[06:50] <Zyklon> worked now
[06:50] <wrektjet> im having real problems getting my router to play nice with 10.04. in connected thru it right now, and xchat is working. but the web is hit or miss. sometimes it works and other times it times out over and over.
[06:50] <Zyklon> one more thing easiest way to unpack a .rar file in ubuntu?
[06:50] <tensorpudding> wrektjet: it could be a dns issue
[06:51] <fratzbc> Zyklon: what do you get as output when you do "ps auxf | grep firefox"
[06:51] <actionParsnip> SoulShadow: indeed, but i never buy it. I just like to read the stuff
[06:51] <fratzbc> there must be some process running
[06:51] <Zyklon> fratzbc: I got it to work
[06:51] <fratzbc> Zyklon: ok
[06:51] <Zyklon> now I need help unpacking a .rar file
[06:51] <Zyklon> :)
[06:51] <actionParsnip> SoulShadow: my fastest cpu is 1.6Ghz sempron :)
[06:51] <DasEi> Zyklon: install unp and all desired codecs, one command for all compressions
[06:51] <fratzbc> unrar x -y file.rar
[06:51] <Zyklon> oki
[06:51] <DasEi> !info unp
[06:52] <actionParsnip> Zyklon: sudo apt-get install rar unrar p7zip-rar p7zip-full      you can then use fileroller in nautilus, or: rar x filename.rar#
[06:52] <tensorpudding> wrektjet: a way to test would be to run dig for various websites, and see the time it takes to get a response
[06:52] <wrektjet> tensorpudding, i have it set to get dns automatically
[06:52] <SoulShadow> actionParsnip lol
[06:52] <SoulShadow> the intel 300gb will be nice to pick up
[06:52] <DasEi> Zyklon: sudo apt-get install unrar unp
[06:52] <kevdog> tar -zxvf tar.file
[06:52] <actionParsnip> SoulShadow: i chat and browse the web, i dont need anything more
[06:52] <tensorpudding> wrektjet: wrektjet what dns servers are listed in /etc/resolv.conf?
[06:53] <DasEi> Zyklon: sudo apt-get install p7zip-full              , and so on
[06:53] <tensorpudding> wrektjet: it's probably that your router is doing dns, and doing it really badly
[06:53] <actionParsnip> kevdog: rar, not tar. and -z is only needed for gzipped tars ;)
[06:53] <wrektjet> lol
[06:53] <Zyklon> ok I'll try
[06:53] <SoulShadow> actionParsnip: i'm picking up a 15.6" dual hdd laptop, prolly a 300 ssd and a 750 hdd
[06:53] <Zyklon> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:53] <Zyklon> acpid
[06:53] <Zyklon> acpi-support
[06:53] <Zyklon> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:53] <Zyklon> :/
[06:53] <FloodBot4> Zyklon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:54] <wrektjet> tensorpudding, the only entry is nameserver 10.0.01
[06:54] <kevdog> Yea ok
[06:54] <DasEi> Zyklon: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:54] <actionParsnip> Zyklon: run: sudo apt-get update     use pastebin to give the output if anything interesting crops up
[06:54] <fratzbc> Zyklon: are you root?
[06:54] <Zyklon> oki
[06:54] <Zyklon> yes
[06:54] <quiescens> that's not really what that kind of error would suggest
[06:55] <noisewaterphd> actionParsnip: Im a developer, some power is nice. Especially considering I work a lot with video compression
[06:55] <kdc1956> need help with getting my wireless to work on a acer aspireone
[06:56] <sculptured> kdc1956, do you know the specific model of the aspire one?
[06:56] <kdc1956> 532h
[06:56] <actionParsnip> noisewaterphd: i work no computers in 12 hour shifts so I try and keep any techical stuff to a minimum when I'm chillin
[06:56] <verywiseman> hello guru , i have oki mb260 , and i want a driver for it, would you help me pls?
[06:56] <kevdog> ahhh wireless always causing issure
[06:57] <Zyklon> fratzbc: getting a bunch of errors
[06:57] <kdc1956> it works good on a wire
[06:57] <DasEi> actionParsnip: rofl
[06:57] <Zyklon> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:57] <Zyklon> acpid
[06:57] <Zyklon> acpi-support
[06:57] <noisewaterphd> broadcom open sourced there drivers finally!!!
[06:57] <fratzbc> Zyklon: msg me your problem
[06:57] <Zyklon> ok
[06:57] <noisewaterphd> hopefully that means the end of supporting crappy dell notebook wifi issues
[06:57] <DasEi> !broadcom | noisewaterphd
[06:58] <kevdog> what: openfwwf has been providing broadcom open source drivers for a select number of devices for a while now?  at least 2 years
[06:58] <kdc1956> I install all of those driver and it still want go wireless
[06:59] <noisewaterphd> broadcom themselves opensourced there wifi drivers
[06:59] <kevdog> when?
[07:00] <sculptured> kdc1956, the  Acer InviLink Nplify (your netbooks NIC) apparently only has windows drivers, you may have to use Ndiswrapper
[07:00] <kevdog> and more importantly -- are they in any form no compile and run on an install now?
[07:00] <noisewaterphd> the issue could be avoided if manufacturers would put decent wifi chipsets in in the first place
[07:00] <kdc1956> how do I do that
[07:00] <jacob2010> Error when enabling desktop effects on ubuntu .10.04 and an ATI 5750 using the FGLRX driver Desktop effects could not be enabled
[07:00] <sculptured> kdc:1956 !ndiswrapper
[07:00] <noisewaterphd> kevdog: like 2 days ago
[07:01] <kevdog> noisewaterphd: shit -- bound to be problems for a while
[07:01] <fratzbc> Zyklon: check msg
[07:01] <kevdog> kdc1956: what's the chipset of your wireless device?
[07:01] <wrektjet> would anyone recommend changing the dns settings to for example googles dns in the /etc/resolv.conf file and would i then have to change settings in the router config page (that i conecct to within a browser)
[07:02] <kdc1956> no idea
[07:02] <harovali> why does libpam tend to break so fragily ?
[07:02] <saik0> Is there a way to remove a package from the dpkg db while leaving the files intact. (And yes I'm aware thats a really bad idea)
[07:02] <harovali> (i could fix it, happily)
[07:03] <harovali> it has happened to debian / ubuntu systems under my administration in a number of years
[07:03] <harovali> three or four times IIRC
[07:03] <actionParsnip> saik0: you could extract the deb and manually copy the files to the relevant places
[07:04] <kevdog> kdc1956: lshw -C network
[07:04] <actionParsnip> saik0: its a really BAD idea
[07:04] <actionParsnip> saik0: but if you want to do it, i can't stop you
[07:04] <saik0> actionParsnip: Actually I have a package that was installed with a broken postrm script
[07:04] <kdc1956> where do I do this at in shell
[07:05] <DasEi> wrektjet: you could try this, but.. how do you connect to your router ? are you using a firewall ? checked syslog for hints on connection cuts ?
[07:05] <actionParsnip> saik0: then move the postrm to ~ then remove the package
[07:05] <saik0> Cant remove it, I know i could reinstall it but I would need a working package, in short it would be much easier to just remove the the dpkg db and rm the files, as there are only a few
[07:06] <kevdog> kdc1956: yes -- and look for your wireless card and where the driver is listed -- or card type and revision number
[07:06] <sculptured> i think someone might find this funny, i just wrote a program named please that calls sudo, so whenever I want to run a program as super user i have to say please
[07:06] <kdc1956> ok thanks
[07:06] <DasEi> wrektjet: in default, resolve.conf will be overwritten in next reboot
[07:06] <saik0> actionParsnip: not sure i follow
[07:07] <DasEi> sculptured: you could just use an alias for this
[07:08] <sculptured> DasEi: I didn't even know alias existed. >.<
[07:08] <wrektjet> DasEi, im not using any particular firewall and nothing really seems to show up in syslog
[07:08] <noisewaterphd> sculptured: now you have to type more
[07:08] <actionParsnip> saik0: if you move the postrm file the system will simply remove the files in a normal reboot stylee
[07:09]  * SoulShadow slips this in: http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=16920
[07:09] <actionParsnip> s/reboot/remove
[07:09] <wrektjet> DasEi, im just having so many difficulties in setting up a home network
[07:09] <DasEi> sculptured: /etc/bash.bashrc for systemwide changes, add a line : alias please="sudo" save, re-open terminal , there it is
[07:09] <rypervenche> Hi everyone. I'm going to set up dual boot on my netbook and I have 280GB to partition. I want the maximum amount set aside for /home. How much do you think I should set aside for Windows 7? As of now it takes up 17GB of space.
[07:09]  * SoulShadow waits for someone to click it.
[07:09] <noisewaterphd> sculptured: but ya, that's enough for a chuckle now and then
[07:09] <DasEi> wrektjet: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[07:10] <sculptured> noisewaterphd: that was my goal, im glad you appreciate it
[07:10] <SoulShadow> aww nobody clicks :(
[07:10] <noisewaterphd> please rm -rf /home/girlfriend
[07:10] <DasEi> wrektjet: sudo apt-get udate && sudo apt-get upgrade                , you are using current lucid ?
[07:10] <sculptured> DasEi: thanks for the info, I think I'll delete the program I wrote and instead just use that alias. thank you
[07:11] <noisewaterphd> SoulShadow: hahahaha
[07:11] <SoulShadow> yay!
[07:11]  * SoulShadow is redeeme
[07:11] <SoulShadow> d
[07:11] <wrektjet> DasEi,  yes
[07:11] <wrektjet> E: Couldn't find package udate
[07:11] <rypervenche> No one knows how much space I should leave for Windows 7? :/
[07:11] <rypervenche> I won't be using it for much.
[07:12] <DasEi> wrektjet: pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces            , give resulting url from terminal here
[07:12] <rypervenche> But for programs that I can't run on Ubuntu.
[07:12] <SoulShadow> rypervenche that's impossible to say
[07:12] <SoulShadow> we have no idea what programs or what you'll be doing
[07:12] <graphitemaster> can I get some help here
[07:12] <DasEi> rypervenche: consider drives became cheap :)
[07:12] <rypervenche> Well, I want as little as possible. I will be playing Final Fantasy VII on it, and I'll probably put a few Chinese programs on it, not too much.
[07:12] <DasEi> !ask | graphitemaster
[07:12] <graphitemaster> I'm sick and tired of ubuntu software channel loading up when I download debs
[07:13] <rypervenche> Someone recommended 80GB.
[07:13] <graphitemaster> I want to use Gdebi!
[07:13] <rypervenche> I feel that it may be too much though.
[07:13] <graphitemaster> I'm trying to download some stuff from playdeb, and I'm using ubuntu 10.10, so it loads up in the software channel, instead of actually download the .deb package.
[07:14] <graphitemaster> and says the package is not found.
[07:14] <wrektjet> DasEi, i would love to. connection timed out/
[07:14] <wrektjet> ironic
[07:14] <graphitemaster> in-fact, ubuntu 10.10 I understand is the beta version, but you need to seriously add the game packages to the sources.
[07:14] <graphitemaster> since, they work flawlessly.
[07:15] <DasEi> wrektjet: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:15] <saik0> actionParsnip: got it, didnt know that all the pre/post scripts were stored in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[07:15] <DasEi> !lucid | graphitemaster
[07:15] <DasEi> !getdeb
[07:16] <graphitemaster> DasEi, ues I'm using ubuntu 10.10
[07:16] <graphitemaster> *yes
[07:16] <actionParsnip> saik0: slightly more graceful eh ;)
[07:16] <DasEi> !maverick > graphitemaster
[07:17] <wrektjet> but all it has is "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback"
[07:17] <DasEi> graphitemaster: for almost all circumstances you can add repositories- on your own risk of instability or a borked apt
[07:17] <kevdog> wrektjet: what is problem?
[07:17] <graphitemaster> yeah, I understand that, but I just need ubuntu to stop opening up the software channel when people download .debs
[07:17] <wrektjet> DasEi, the contents of etc/network.interfaces is "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback"
[07:18] <graphitemaster> erm apturl
[07:18] <saik0> actionParsnip: Yeah, just fixed the offending lines. Then removed the package
[07:18] <DasEi> wrektjet: how do connect to your router, dhcp ?
[07:18] <graphitemaster> DasEi, when ubuntu sees an apturl it loads up the software channel, and locates the package.
[07:18] <graphitemaster> from it;s own sources.
[07:18] <graphitemaster> DasEi, this breaks playdeb, since apt-url is suppose to download the dep, then launch it with Gdebi
[07:19] <wrektjet> DasEi, at the moment yes. i figure if i can get dhcp i can try static afterwards
[07:19] <DasEi> wrektjet: yes
[07:19] <wrektjet> DasEi, it WAS working on static but that failed so i reverted to dhcp, that worked for a while then failed as well
[07:20] <graphitemaster> I just need apturls to actually open with apturl...
[07:20] <DasEi> wrektjet: lspci          , just an eth0 ?
[07:20] <graphitemaster> not this silly software managment tool, gui thingy, what ever you guys call it.
[07:21] <DasEi> graphitemaster: if your sources are set up properly, can go with apt without softwarecenter opening
[07:21] <kevdog> wrektjet: Having problem with your wireless network card?
[07:22] <wrektjet> DasEi, just the one ethernet controller
[07:22] <DasEi> kevdog: no, he's having trouble with connection cuts on a wired router
[07:22] <graphitemaster> DasEi, it's not suppose to download the package from ubuntu sources.
[07:22] <wrektjet> kevdog, not even wireless.
[07:22] <graphitemaster> it's suppose to download from playdeb.
[07:22] <kevdog> sucks -- what wired card
[07:22] <DasEi> wrektjet: gksudo gedit /etc/interfaces
[07:23] <fratzbc> omg sun is in my screen... what todo?!
[07:23] <DasEi> wrektjet: gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[07:23] <mast`> apt-get install sunglasses
[07:23] <fratzbc> mast`: thanks! just works... my screen just when white/black
[07:24]  * graphitemaster is just going to remove xdg-open
[07:24] <DasEi> wrektjet: insert, line by line :
[07:24] <DasEi> wrektjet: auto eth0
[07:24] <wrektjet> DasEi, auto lo
[07:24] <wrektjet> oh sorry
[07:24] <wrektjet> got u go ahead
[07:24] <DasEi> we know this already, wrektjet
[07:24] <DasEi> wrektjet: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:24] <jacob2010> Error when enabling desktop effects on ubuntu .10.04 and an ATI 5750 using the FGLRX driver Desktop effects could not be enabled.  Compiz worked in 9.10 with this card
[07:25] <DasEi> wrektjet: you know tthe ip of the router ?
[07:25] <DasEi> jacob2010: I'm no good with ati, but remove fglry for sure on it
[07:25] <DasEi> x*
[07:26] <SoulShadow> fglrx works when it wants to
[07:26] <SoulShadow> lol
[07:26] <SoulShadow> lets just put it that way
[07:27] <DasEi> jacob2010: there had been improvements on this card, but need to find someone using it, too
[07:27] <SoulShadow> ugh i kinda wish ubuntu had inxi by default
[07:27] <SoulShadow> so he could just /exec -o inxi -xG
[07:27] <SoulShadow> would explain everything i bet :p
[07:27] <wrektjet> DasEi, ive got it now yes
[07:28] <DasEi> wrektjet: if so (IP) can add a line : gateway 192.XXX....
[07:28] <neil_d> it seems that when you do a shutdown or reset from the panel... gnome isn't logged out first.... :( ... If I have setup /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default to un-mount my samba shares ... if I logout then reset everything goes fine.. if I just reset from the panel, it doesn't reset properly... it hangs with cifs errors :(
[07:28] <brummbaer> hi, does anyone know if scripts in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/ are run only on connection or also at disconnect?
[07:28] <wrektjet> DasEi, and delete previous lines or add these lines in addition to what was b4
[07:28] <DasEi> wrektjet: save the file, close gedit
[07:29] <DasEi> wrektjet: just add, three lines in the whole then
[07:29] <DasEi> wrektjet: closed ?
[07:30] <wrektjet> closed
[07:30] <DasEi> wrektjet: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:30] <DasEi> wrektjet: any complaints in the trml ?
[07:30] <wrektjet> no complioants but no ip either
[07:31] <DasEi> wrektjet: sudo dhclient
[07:31] <wrektjet> DasEi, internet connectivity!
[07:32]  * ActionParsnip claps
[07:32] <wrektjet> DasEi, will the file reset on reboot
[07:32] <graphitemaster> DasEi, I added the lucid sources, and it still cannot find the packages, and yes, I ran sudo apt-get update
[07:32] <DasEi> wrektjet: the dhcp will override dns (resolve.conf) , and no, that's permanent, report if more trouble
[07:32] <DasEi> graphitemaster: ask in ubuntu+1
[07:33] <kneaux> remember Living Colour?
[07:33] <kneaux> whoops, sorry.
[07:33] <yukongt> my laptop freezes everytime i try to put it in hibernate. The screen just goes black with the cursor flashing in the corner. Is there any way to fix it?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> yukongt: do you use nvidia or ati vga?
[07:34] <yukongt> nvidia
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Thought so
[07:34] <yukongt> is it a known bug?
[07:35] <Tempus_Fugit> hey cna anyone fill me in a little on wine and how to use it or is there a channel for that on its own ??
[07:35] <Tempus_Fugit> can??
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> yukongt: very. There are possible solutions all over
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> yukongt: hibernate is very hard to get nice
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> Tempus_Fugit: sure, wassup?
[07:36] <Tempus_Fugit> ActionParsnip: have you ever heard of a program called camfrog??
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> yukongt: may work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1506393
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Tempus_Fugit: yes it doesn't work in wine. I've seen people asking about it
[07:37] <DasEi> !wine | Tempus_Fugit
[07:37] <wrektjet> public question: should i go ahead and get a new router, does anyone have a recommendation on a specific one that they know will work well with 10.04 in setting up a home network with some windows machines wirelessly and my ps3 :) otherwise should i just get another network card and try to make my box act as the router?
[07:37] <Tempus_Fugit> ActionParsnip: it only runs on windows and mac and Im trying to see if wine will run it
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Tempus_Fugit: you can check the appdb for compatibility
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | Tempus_Fugit
[07:38] <kapace_> hello, whats the boot command line for safegraphics?
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> wrektjet: routers use ISO standards so any will be fine
[07:38] <DasEi> wrektjet: what's up now ? for a home network you need a cheap switch
[07:38] <frobisher> Tempus_Fugit:wine:You may be interested in a website called Franks Corner.
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | kapace_
[07:38] <yukongt> is there any benefits in using x86 instead of x64?
[07:38] <DasEi> kapace_: single
[07:38] <kapace_> im booting the netbook remix
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> yukongt: access more ram, advantageous for audio /video transfoming
[07:39] <kapace_> so i don't have those options
[07:39] <DasEi> kapace_: same
[07:39] <kapace_> ok
[07:39] <wrektjet> DasEi, nothing is up in particular. its just really slow, and some things load and some time out and need to be clicked over and over. its frustrating
[07:39] <wrektjet> all so my roommate can check his email
[07:40] <DasEi> wrektjet: content of /etc/resolv.conf ?
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> wrektjet: i'd get a nice linksys personally they run a *nix based OS ;)
[07:41] <wrektjet> DasEi, simply nameserver 10.0.0.1
[07:41] <wrektjet> was considering changing to google dns which is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 (thats how we started chatting)
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> yukongt: 3rd party companies like brother and canon seem to only make 32bit drivers. This is similar in other situations and is why 32bit is advised but if you want/need 64bit then run with it :)
[07:42] <DasEi> wrektjet: can have different reasons, bad cable, broken nick, bad router, ISP probs.. mtu settings 10 instead of least 100 link, dns... and more
[07:42] <DasEi> nic*
[07:42] <tensorpudding> wrektjet: did you test your dns using dig?
[07:43] <wrektjet> tensorpudding, no. how do i do that
[07:43] <tensorpudding> wrektjet: try grabbing dns records from several different sites using dig, and see what kind of times you get
[07:43] <Tempus_Fugit> Well I am very impressed that COD works with wine that is too cool ...not sure if my lappy can handle the graphics though but that would be cool
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> When anyone mentions dig I always think of the mudvayne song
[07:43] <tensorpudding> wrektjet: 'dig www.google.com', or the like
[07:43] <DasEi> Tempus_Fugit: it does ? hola
[07:43] <DasEi> Tempus_Fugit: which version ?
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> Tempus_Fugit: probably because it uses proper opengl
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> Afair
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> Tempus_Fugit: postal2 and doom3 work amazingly too (although doom3 has a native installer cos Id software rock)
[07:44] <Tempus_Fugit>  here check it http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=12804
[07:45] <Tempus_Fugit> ActionParsnip: lmao remember the first God mode code idkfa
[07:45] <tensorpudding> wrektjet: i had an issue with the same thing, my cheap dsl router is to blame, so i ended up setting up a local caching dns server on my server
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Tempus_Fugit: you can play doom 1 in flash online now :)
[07:46] <Tempus_Fugit> sweeeet
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Tempus_Fugit: full port. Pretty sweet
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Tempus_Fugit: also jones in the fast lane (shows his age)
[07:47] <wrektjet> tensorpudding, well its def the router bec directly to the modem works great. still not getting his dig thing working
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> !away > HEADSHOT|afk
[07:47] <HEADSHOT|afk> what?
[07:48] <HEADSHOT|afk> ok
[07:50] <tensorpudding> wrektjet: what problems are there?
[07:50] <wrektjet> i just figured out that dig works in the terminal
[07:50] <wrektjet> hehe
[07:50] <wrektjet> learn something new every day
[07:50] <tensorpudding> oh
[07:50] <tensorpudding> yes
[07:51] <wrektjet> dig www.facebook.com
[07:51] <wrektjet> srry
[07:55] <hateball> Is there a way to disallow changing language via GDM, and in the session as well? We have public machines with public accounts, where it should not be able to change to any other language than our prefered, not even english
[07:57] <wrektjet> thanks for your help DasEi and tensorpudding but i have to go to the nite shift now before i fall asleep. will come back to this tomorrow.
[07:57] <DasEi> wrektjet: good sleep
[07:57] <wrektjet> no no cant sleep
[07:58] <wrektjet> must work
[07:58] <wrektjet> :) thnx all good luck
[07:59]  * Blue1 wonders how ivanrad made out?
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Blue1: I believe there was some groping ;)
[07:59] <graphitemaster> I think I b0rked my ubuntu :P
[08:00] <graphitemaster> we'll see
[08:00] <Blue1> ActionParsnip: no he was the guy trying to put linux on an ssd.
[08:00] <graphitemaster> i just damaged some stuff.
[08:00] <olskolirc> how graphitemaster
[08:00] <Blue1> get the duct tape
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> Blue1: usb-creator does that nicely or the universal thing from pendrivelinux for windows
[08:00] <cklabe> Lol.
[08:00] <graphitemaster> well, I for one added some sources to my list, from lucid ontop of maverik
[08:01] <graphitemaster> then managed to break my keyring, and gpg in genreal.
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> graphitemaster: well that's a bad idea to start with
[08:01] <Blue1> ActionParsnip: yeah we were trying to get him there....
[08:01] <graphitemaster> so I removed the lucid sources and did an update again
[08:01] <graphitemaster> and gpg keyring was total brokem
[08:01] <Blue1> uh oh
[08:01] <graphitemaster> so i purged gpg
[08:01] <graphitemaster> and it removed apt, and apturl and everything.
[08:02] <graphitemaster> so now I'm installing gpg2 and stuff from maverik
[08:02] <graphitemaster> and idk, i think this is totaly broken now.
[08:02] <graphitemaster> it's getting all kinds of broken packages.
[08:02] <Blue1> in the star trek vernacular:  "It's dead, Jim!"
[08:03] <graphitemaster> as long as it boots :P
[08:03] <graphitemaster> i can fix it.
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> graphitemaster: lucid is lucid, maverick is maverick. You can't mix them as you have seen. There is a clear distinction between and mixing is not supported nor advised. Same with adding debian repos and such
[08:03] <Blue1> graphitemaster: and get to console.
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> graphitemaster: even if it doesn't boot you can fix it using chroot ;)
[08:03] <cklabe> I have a Triton see2 uv150 USB to VGA adapter, can i setup dual monitors with this?
[08:03] <graphitemaster> if it does not boot, I will just reinstall :P
[08:04] <graphitemaster> i have eveythign backed up anyways.
[08:04] <fratzbc> any squid users here?
[08:04] <graphitemaster> nothing is saved on the same hd as my os
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> graphitemaster: as long as the OS has dpkg you should be able to install debs manually. Its going to be a long climb back
[08:04] <Blue1> graphitemaster: always have a path back to the way it was, before you messed it up!
[08:04] <graphitemaster> ActionParsnip, I can just reinstall if i break it.
[08:04] <graphitemaster> ohh there goes GNOME
[08:04] <graphitemaster> yay!
[08:04] <Blue1> yup, sometimes the way ahead, is to take 2 steps bck.
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> cklabe: if you run: sudo lshw -C display ,do you see both you current card and the usb thing?
[08:04] <yukongt> my laptop has the  Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M. Does anything extra drivers or anything need to be installed for it besides what ever came from the regular ubuntu install?
[08:05] <cklabe> yes ActionParsnip
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> yukongt: the stock install should run it. You can use an xorg.conf to maybe define better options
[08:05] <graphitemaster> well that did nothing.
[08:05] <graphitemaster> more packages :D
[08:06] <graphitemaster> this is the most unstable OS I'm running..
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> cklabe: ok use the monitor item in the system menu someplace to see if you can setup stuff there. You may need an xorg.conf file to make it fly
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | cklabe
[08:06] <graphitemaster> KSPLICED kernel patches, borked nvidia drivers, totally messed ubuntu packages, and it's running :P
[08:07] <graphitemaster> as long as I don't reboot, I should be fine hehehehe
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> graphitemaster: the OS is fine if you run it right and don't mix between releases
[08:07] <graphitemaster> ActionParsnip, oh there is mixed releases galore here :D
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> graphitemaster: that's why you are getting issues then
[08:07] <graphitemaster> i think i have 9.04 packages in my sources too LP:P
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> graphitemaster: i'd reinstall and keep to your own release
[08:09] <cklabe> Thank you ActionParsnip.  That at least gives me a lead.  The system menue option for monitors dosnt seem to detect it.
[08:09] <graphitemaster> all I have to do is, purge everything, run from terminal, and pop back in my cd, reinstall the sources of lucid, and install apt, and gpg keys, and run apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, then boot up, run update-manager -d and upgrade the distro back to 10.10
[08:09] <graphitemaster> it's not hard really.
[08:09] <graphitemaster> it's just repetitive.
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> graphitemaster: maverick isn't supported here either
[08:10] <cklabe> ActionParsnip: How would I setup a xorg.conf? Any documentation I have found points to a directory that dosnt seem to exist on 10.04
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> cklabe: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ,then search online for sample files and syntax
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> cklabe: lucid doesn't ship with one but if one is present it will be obeyed
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> cklabe: someone may have a dualhead xorg.conf you can use/edit
[08:12] <graphitemaster> ActionParsnip, it seems everything over here is going smooth :D
[08:12] <olskolirc> anyone come across a plasma widget yet?
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> graphitemaster: nice
[08:12] <olskolirc> oope a plasmoid widget for youtube, anyone?
[08:12] <cklabe> Thank you verry much ActionParsnip.
[08:13] <metatagg> olskolirc, plasmoid.. sounds dangerous to me..
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> olskolirc: not used kde for years now. The guys in #kubuntu will see them daily
[08:13] <olskolirc> oops wrong chan
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> cklabe: np bro. Its going to be hard but you'll get there
[08:13] <quibbler>  /msg NickServ REGISTER nexus quibbler04@gmail.com
[08:13] <gdb> oops?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Quick. Spam him/her!
[08:14] <yukongt> I found someone online saying to install uswsusp to fix the hibernate thing. I did that and it appears to be working, but what does it do?
[08:14] <graphitemaster> ActionParsnip, do you know how to reinstall keyrings?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> graphitemaster: no idea, never had to do it
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Sorry
[08:14] <graphitemaster> for example, [No keyring installed in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/]
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> graphitemaster: websearch that error, see what turns up
[08:17] <graphitemaster> ActionParsnip, nothing at all shows up.
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> graphitemaster: you may be able to copy the key from the livecd. Personally i'd reinstall. Sounds like a right mess
[08:23] <graphitemaster> I FIXED IT!
[08:23] <graphitemaster> bahaha :D
[08:26] <graphitemaster> guys I did it :P
[08:26] <fratzbc> what did you do?
[08:26] <graphitemaster> i managed to turn ubuntu 10.10 into ubutnu 10.04 lol
[08:27] <fratzbc> :P
[08:27] <graphitemaster> fixed over 10,000 broken packaged
[08:27] <fratzbc> lol
[08:27] <fratzbc> wasn't a reinstall quicker?
[08:27] <fratzbc> how long did it take you ?
[08:27] <graphitemaster> i had sources from 11 other distros
[08:28] <graphitemaster> ranging from debian stuff, to old version of ubuntu like 8.*
[08:28] <graphitemaster> took me about an hour :D
[08:28] <fratzbc> hm cool
[08:28] <graphitemaster> but now I'm missing the software center :D
[08:29] <graphitemaster> and sympatic erm..
[08:30] <allan8904> hi, is it possible to configure the window List applet for the gnome panel to not display certain applications?
[08:30] <graphitemaster> allan8904, yes
[08:30] <allan8904> graphitemaster: how  would i do that?
[08:31] <graphitemaster> System->Preferences->Main Menu
[08:32] <gdb> (That's not what allan8904 means.)
[08:33] <graphitemaster> no?
[08:33] <graphitemaster> what does he mean then
[08:33] <allan8904> nah gdb is right, not what i'm after
[08:33] <graphitemaster> ohh the window list.
[08:33] <allan8904> yeah :)
[08:33] <graphitemaster> yeah, umm sorry, humm
[08:33] <graphitemaster> you can look around in gconf-editor
[08:33] <allan8904> i'm in the config file
[08:33] <graphitemaster> perhaps there is something.
[08:33] <allan8904> but i dont know the syntax to do it >.<
[08:33] <allan8904> thought someone here might know
[08:34] <graphitemaster> I never knew you could edit it, so I don't know.
[08:35] <graphitemaster> if I was any smart I would assume it;s standard glib keyfile synatax,
[08:35] <allan8904> haha, yeah but even using that there would need to be a keyword for "do not show this one" type thing :S
[08:36] <graphitemaster> google the filename, and look at results
[08:36] <graphitemaster> build up an idea of the sanytax
[08:36] <graphitemaster> I'm sure people have edited it in the past.
[08:37] <slow-motion> hi
[08:37] <mike9055> anyone use awesomewm?
[08:37] <graphitemaster> mike9055, yep
[08:38] <mike9055> graphitemaster: have you messed with the theme?
[08:38] <quiescens> allan8904: where are you looking at the moment?
[08:38] <graphitemaster> mike9055,  yes
[08:38] <mike9055> graphitemaster: can i look at your config file?
[08:38] <Phaedrus_> Hi all, I'm trying to do a complete install on an old Sony PCG-505 and, based on what I've learned so far, the BIOS automatically re-maps  the CARDBUS cd-rom to appear as IDE at /dev/hde instead of /dev/hdc.  Apparently, it was possible to use: Ide2=0x180,0x386 to work around this issue with the 2.4 kernel, but this won't work with 2.6.  I've just tried using the Alternate Installer (Debian) for a command line install but the insta
[08:39] <graphitemaster> mike9055, I don't have it not anymore :P
[08:39] <allan8904> quiescens: homedir/.gconf/apps/panel/applets/applet_2/prefs/%gconf.xml
[08:39] <graphitemaster> I uninstalled it, it was just a testing thing, I disliked it.
[08:39] <mike9055> graphitemaster: ah i love it
[08:39] <quiescens> phaedrus_: is there an issue with just leaving it as hde?
[08:39] <mike9055> graphitemaster: i've got so many machines im ssh'd into all tiled neatly
[08:40] <Cale> Hi, I'm using Lucid, and my WM switches back to metacity from compiz every time I log out and back in again (forcing me to switch it every time if I want desktop effects). Any ideas about what might be going on there?
[08:40] <Phaedrus_> Nothing boots properly (not even DSL) if I don't play with it.  In fact, I have yet to boot to anything other than the old Win98 on the hard drive
[08:40] <jav> Does any one know if/how I can set the "default monitor" using xrandr? (I got a dual monitor setup)
[08:41] <graphitemaster> mike9055, http://pastebin.com/4gzrTNK4
[08:41] <Cale> (I set the option in the Appearance preferences box0
[08:41] <Cale> )
[08:41] <graphitemaster> ^^ pulled fromt he web mike9055
[08:41] <graphitemaster> *the web
[08:41] <s5s> Why is ubuntu so buggy? Hotplugging a simple external HDD doesn't work - I can't unmount it after mounting it. Then the icons stay on my desktop even when it was unplugged. Even root cannot unmount! WTF?
[08:42] <allan8904> s5s have you tried umounting with the -l flag?
[08:43] <egonw> moin, I am trying to upgrade a machine from jaunty to karmic, but stuck with udev not completing the postinstall... why is that postinstall not finishing, and how can I fix it, or at least get some further ideas on how to get the updrade working again?
[08:44] <quiescens> allan8904: you should technically editor the .gconf stuff using gconf-editor, but I don't know if you can do what you want there anyway
[08:44] <s5s> allan8904: yes, I've also tried -a, -af, -al. Not to mention that the terminal hangs and C^c doesn't even work. I've never seen C^c not work before.
[08:44] <graphitemaster> dammit to hell
[08:44] <graphitemaster> stupid ubuntu I hate you
[08:44] <graphitemaster> always breaks my GFX drivers
[08:45] <graphitemaster> okay telinit1
[08:45] <graphitemaster> brb
[08:45] <allan8904> quiescens: yeah i wasnt 100% sure it was do-able either....i just had it configured that way in ICEWM and i have hoping i could do the same with a gnome panel
[08:45] <quiescens> allan8904: if you're using normal or extra for visual effects (or compiz in other words) the compiz settings can do it in the window rules bit
[08:46] <allan8904> quiescens: well compiz is my window manager....where do i look for window rules?
[08:46] <quiescens> allan8904: you'll have to install compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:47] <quiescens> allan8904: and then it'll be in system, preferences, compizconfig settings manager
[08:48] <allan8904> quiescens: which window rule would i be after?
[08:48] <quiescens> skip taskbar
[08:48] <ohio> whenever i try to copy large file in my pendrive ,after sometime it stops saying that "I/O error".Why is it happening?
[08:49] <quiescens> easiest way will be to click the plus sign, grab, and then click on the window you want to hide
[08:50] <allan8904> quiescens: hmm it doesnt seem to be working, but that might be because compiz doesnt know about gnome-panel. I'll look into it. Thanks :)
[08:50] <Krystian> Anyone know how can i enable nautilus terminal for other users than root?
[08:51] <skjoedt> Hi. I have trouble viewing 3d in a window (not fullscreen). It blinks when I move the mouse. I have a Radeon Mobility HD 4670 and I am using the catalyst 10.8 driver. Anyone knows about this issue?
[08:51] <metatagg> Krystian: sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[08:51] <quiescens> allan8904: make sure you enable window rules if it isn't already
[08:51] <rajabi> Hi
[08:52] <allan8904> quiescens: yeah its enabled....but this is a sort of "ubuntufromscratch" installation so its probably not all configured the way it should be
[08:52] <soreau> allan8904: Seems to work fine here. Make sure you have a correct window match
[08:52] <metatagg> Krystian: then a 'killall nautilus' should do it
[08:52] <quiescens> allan8904: I don't know then, it worked when I tried it
[08:53] <allan8904> quiescens: yeah so i have that part figured out now, all i have to do is get compiz to reconginse the gnome panel. That shouldnt be too hard. Thanks for your help :)
[08:53] <Krystian> metatagg: Thanks it worked:)
[08:53] <niglop> how come when I edit my bash.bashrc at /etc it goes back to an earlier state later on?
[08:53] <rajabi> I have a ubuntu 10.04 i386 , my labtop is Dell xps 1530 , my ubuntu sometimes crashed in startup , My system crashed before start GDM please help me
[08:53] <soreau> allan8904: 'compiz to reconginse the gnome panel' doesn't make any sense. What match are you trying?
[08:54] <allan8904> soreau: match?
[08:54] <quiescens> allan8904: it should work as it is, what are you trying to hide? some windows might not have a class and you'll have to use a different filter or whatever
[08:54] <soreau> allan8904: Yes, in window rules plugin, you have to match the windows you want for skip taskbar
[08:54] <rajabi> Hi , I have a ubuntu 10.04 i386 , my labtop is Dell xps 1530 , my ubuntu sometimes crashed in startup , My system crashed before start GDM please help me
[08:55] <quiescens> allan8904: just as an example, for the text field next to Skip taskbar, if you enter something like class=Firefox
[08:55] <allan8904> quiescens: The compiz installation and gnome-panel installation are in seperate "enviroments"..which seems to be where my problem is. I'm going uninstall it from the "cage" enviroment into the "root" enviroment and then it should work
[08:56] <rajabi> I have a ubuntu 10.04 i386 , my labtop is Dell xps 1530 , my ubuntu sometimes crashed in startup , My system crashed before start GDM please help me , please tell me
[08:56] <Krystian> Enyone know why can't i join this channel with Empathy? i answered question on #ubuntu-unregg. But when i join it through Empathy i got no error, and can't connect.
[08:56] <yeriyahoovaio> Hello, my windows don't have the x, +, - in the upper left hand corner from time to time. The when it appears it won't let me minimize it. This all started after i installed gnome shell, I un-installed it and the windows are still not working properly. Help anyone!!
[08:57] <rajabi> :-(
[08:58] <rajabi> did you sleeped ?
[08:58] <rajabi> :'(
[09:01] <quiescens> yeriyahoovaio: alt-f2, gconf-editor, then go to /apps/metacity/general, there should a value on the right for button_layout
[09:02] <quiescens> yeriyahoovaio: the default is "close,minimize,maximize:" (without the quotes but with the colon)
[09:02] <egonw> is there a better channel to ask about udev not upgrading for jaunty->karmic? (the postinstall does not complete)
[09:03] <ping__luce>  hi. I want to buy a notebook and install (k)ubuntu on it. Unfortunately, I can't try the live cd in the shop. So, where can I check if ubuntu can be installed on that notebook?
[09:04] <ljsoftnet> how do i put a only a volume control in gnome panel?
[09:04] <egonw> ping__luce: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[09:04] <metatagg> Krystian: No problemo!
[09:05] <Aemaeth> i'm trying to get a full install on a pendrive, so i'm going to install the disk image to my sd card and install to pen drive, is there an easier way?
[09:05] <Aemaeth> or virtual machine
[09:05] <ping__luce> egonw: it doesn't give me infos
[09:06] <egonw> ping__luce: if you follow the links, you should end up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Lucid/Reports
[09:06] <ping__luce> thanks egonw
[09:07] <twoface> Hi. I cant resolve the hosts i have put in /etc/hosts myself. 'host testhost' just says 'Host testhost not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)' as if it doesn't even try to read the hosts file. How can this be?
[09:07] <Raptors> does nvidia ion have hardware acceleration in ubuntu?
[09:08] <Raptors> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131635
[09:08] <Raptors> planning on getting that
[09:08] <twoface> gah, nevermind
[09:10] <Z3R0> hi guys, my icons get activated with a single click. how can I make them get activated by double click?
[09:11] <airtonix> Z3R0, in the file manager preferences
[09:13] <ljsoftnet> how do i put only a volume control in gnome panel?
[09:14] <Z3R0> airtonix, couldn't find it, I'm using kde
[09:14] <airtonix> Z3R0, then you need to mention that, because unless otherwise specified it's assumed you are using ubuntu 10,04 and Gnome.
[09:15] <deena> Hi
[09:15] <Jordan_U> Z3R0: Try asking in #kubuntu
[09:15] <deena> i want to know latest ubuntu version to install in my desktop
[09:15] <Z3R0> ok, thanks
[09:16] <ns5> In ubuntu 10.04, by default, gnome-terminal is transparent, how to make it not transparent?
[09:16] <michal1> internal mic and internal speaker don't work! can anyone help? it suppost to be so easy.
[09:16] <egonw> deena: updrade, install from cd?
[09:16] <airtonix> ns5, in the program preferences
[09:16] <quiescens> ns5: right click, profiles, profile preferences, background
[09:16] <deena> install from cd
[09:16] <yeriyahoovaio> quiescens: Thanks, what can i do to fix it, newbie to Linux?
[09:17] <ljsoftnet> how do i put only a volume control in gnome panel?
[09:17] <ns5> quiescens: which one to choose in background?
[09:17] <egonw> deena: you downloaded and burned the CD (or DVD) already?
[09:17] <deena> no i want to know latest version which is in standard
[09:17] <egonw> deena: 10.04, lucid?
[09:18] <kneaux> what is ADE?
[09:18] <ns5> quiescens: In old ubuntu, if you choose "single color" for background, it'll be non-transparent.  But in ubuntu 10.04, with "single color", you get transparent background
[09:19] <quiescens> ns5: my options are "solid colour", "background image", and "transparent background"
[09:19] <michal1>  internal mic and internal speaker don't work! outside speakers work tho. i need to use skype but can't. using alsa mixer. nothing muted. please help. my girlfriend wants me to switch back to windows! :)
[09:20] <kneaux> psh girlfriends
[09:20] <deena> egonw -- is it 10.04 or 10.10 beta?
[09:20] <kneaux> have you tried using a different audio driver
[09:21] <michal1> kneaux: no
[09:21] <egonw> deena: 10.04 is the stable one, 10.10 is the beta, in development version
[09:21] <kneaux> also you know how to use alsamixer right
[09:21] <ns5> quiescens: I'm using Chinese language, so I need to guess.  By "single colour" I mean "solid color".
[09:21] <deena> ok thanks
[09:21] <michal1> kneaux: yeah, nothing difficult, have 3 sliders and use them as control volume.
[09:21] <egonw> deena: the 10.04 is for 4th month of 2010 , 10.10 is for the 10th month of 2010, etc
[09:22] <quiescens> ns5: well, the first option seems to work for me, only the third option makes it transparent
[09:22] <aliverius> i am getting this while compiling misdn: configure: error: kernel build tree does not exist build:/lib/modules/2.6.32-24-server/build / source:/lib/modules/2.6.32-24-server/source
[09:22] <deena> can i get the link to download
[09:22] <deena> ?
[09:22] <ns5> quiescens: The first option "solid colour" makes gnome-terminal half transparent here on my PC.
[09:23] <michal1> kneaux: maybe i should download original driver? don't know how to replace the existing one.
[09:23] <quiescens> ns5: that's odd, what version is your gnome-terminal
[09:24] <ljsoftnet> how do i put only a volume control in gnome panel?
[09:24] <ns5> quiescens: 2.96.6
[09:24] <at05gt> Apologizing ahead of time for Wall of Text.
[09:24] <ns5> quiescens: sorry, 2.29.6
[09:25] <kneaux> m1chael,  don't quote me on this, but if you uninstall alsa and install a compatible driver you should be set, and that should tell you whether or not there's a hardware problem
[09:25] <quiescens> ns5: ah, go to colours, and you'll have to uncheck use colours from system theme
[09:26] <at05gt> not really sure how to ask my question without sounding like a total moron, lol
[09:26] <quiescens> ns5: otherwise the settings on background do nothing
[09:27] <egonw> deena: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download ? don't want to be blunt, but did you actually try "ubuntu download" in your favorite search engine?
[09:27] <at05gt> ive got 4 gigs of ram on my computer ill need the 64 bit version if i want to use all of it yes?
[09:27] <ns5> quiescens: already unchecked.  no luck.
[09:28] <at05gt> im using 32 bit vista currently and it only recognizes 3 gigs, plus my vista install is borked and the registry error can be fixed, so im looking to start over with a new OS as Ive grown tired of windows
[09:29] <at05gt> cant* sorry typo
[09:29] <quiescens> ns5: i don't suppose just dragging the bar all the way to the right in background works
[09:29] <at05gt> any advice for an ubuntu noob is appreciated
[09:29] <fratzbc> 32 bits can only see 3.x gig of mem
[09:30] <at05gt> ya im aware of that ive started the download for the 64 bit
[09:30] <fratzbc> don't know if you can fix this with a patch or whatever... but wth 32bit? :)
[09:30] <Jordan_U> !pae | at05gt
[09:30] <fratzbc> 32 bit is so 90's
[09:30] <ns5> quiescens: It works.  But it's weird that "single colour" does not work.  There must be some settings outside gnome-terminal that makes it transparent by default.
[09:30] <Jordan_U> at05gt: I still recommend using full 64 bit instead of just PAE though.
[09:30] <quiescens> ns5: i just don't get why it works for me, I don't remember going to any particular effort to change it
[09:30] <bjp> at05gt: yea i'd recommend 64 bit, i've been using it for years with no problems
[09:31] <at05gt> ya im downloading 64 bit as we speaking
[09:31] <at05gt> im on vista currently and its horrid
[09:31] <MalditoVGA_> oh god...i can't run ubuntu lucid lynx...i've tried i915.modeset=1 and nomodeset using livecd but nothing works...i'm desperate...any ideas???
[09:31] <at05gt> my buddy told me to try a live USB install but i dont have a 2 gig drive
[09:32] <at05gt> will it work with memory cards? or only usb drives?
[09:33] <at05gt> sorry i sound if i sound stupid, been windows user for 15+ years
[09:33] <bjp> duno, never tried a memory card
[09:33] <at05gt> i guess ill just have to give it a shot
[09:34] <at05gt> i mean if the bios allows me to boot from usb and the card reader is universal plug and play then it should recognize it as a drive on boot
[09:34] <bjp> MalditoVGA: old intel video card?
[09:36] <MalditoVGA> im not sure...
[09:36] <michal1> how to download the original soundcard driver?
[09:36] <MalditoVGA> :D
[09:36] <noisewaterphd> at05gt: welcome! you'll never go ba
[09:36] <at05gt> god i hope not
[09:36] <Jordan_U> at05gt: Yes, a card reader should work fine as long as your BIOS supports it.
[09:36] <MalditoVGA> how do i know...computer is not mine...
[09:37] <at05gt> computers only a year old AMD 64 X2 4400+ processor
[09:37] <bjp> MalditoVGA: just curious, from the i915 thing, does it freeze when you load the desktop? or is it doing something else
[09:37] <neil_d> I have a gripe... I am trying to unmount some samba drives before the interface goes down... but I haven't found a way yet... the /etc/network/if-down.d/ scripts get executed after the interface is already down... and there are no if-pre-down.d etc scripts...
[09:38] <at05gt> this makes me wish i still had my laptop, could talk to you guys while im installing on my desk lol
[09:38] <MalditoVGA> monitor gets out of signal...dunno if it freezes i can't see splash screen
[09:38] <bjp> oh, differen't problem than what i had, can you ctrl-alt-1
[09:39] <bjp> err is it ctrl-alt-f1
[09:39] <bjp> yea
[09:39] <at05gt> quick question, since ill have 2 drives with an OS on each, how do i go about dual booting? will a message just come up asking which OS to load?
[09:40] <bjp> yea, grub should come up on boot
[09:40] <bjp> Ubuntu should detect windows and install grub with both options
[09:40] <at05gt> ill probably have to change the boot priorities in the bios wont i?
[09:40] <Jordan_U> at05gt: The great thing about the LiveCD installer is that you can do things like connect to IRC while installing.
[09:40] <bjp> not if you install grub to your boot drive
[09:41] <at05gt> alright well the live install is ready so here i go wish me luck
[09:42] <sangwizz> l
[09:42] <MalditoVGA> if i press shift i can get to grub options...
[09:43] <bjp> MalditoVGA: i mean after the screen goes blank (after it boots), can you ctrl-alt-f1, that normally gives you a tty console
[09:44] <MalditoVGA> ctrlaltf1 does nothing
[09:44] <bjp> does livecd boot?
[09:45] <donttrustem> hi what is the latest stable server build ...   I am building using bootstrap
[09:45] <MalditoVGA> just if i press f6
[09:45] <MalditoVGA> but just the menu
[09:45] <MalditoVGA> can't try ubuntu
[09:46] <ruben23> hi guys any help i installed ubuntu desktop 10.04 after audio is working then suddenly it stop working i cant hear anything on my headset..
[09:46] <Zircon_X> I'm going to be installing Ubuntu server as an IRC server on a P IV box with a gig of RAM...would I still be able to use this box as a desktop PC? I'll mostly be web browsing and listening to music (And obviously IRC)
[09:46] <Zircon_X> Should I be ok with that?
[09:47] <taiyal> where does /etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme point by default!?
[09:47] <taiyal> KDE clobbered my cursor
[09:47] <Katsumi32> ruben23, try type alsamixer in terminal check up if everything is unmuted
[09:47] <Jordan_U> Zircon_X: Yes.
[09:47] <bjp> Zircon_X: if you install the ubuntu server edition it doesn't install a desktop environment by default, but you can install it from the repos, or you can install the desktop version and just use that as a server
[09:48] <maedox> taiyal: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 2010-05-10 13:40 /etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme -> /usr/share/icons/DMZ-White/cursor.theme
[09:48] <taiyal> thank you
[09:48] <bjp> MalditoVGA: not sure, i've had a couple video issues before, but they didn't act like that
[09:48] <Zircon_X> Alright, thank you! One more question, I've tried to install Ubuntu before and I have an Audigy X-Fi sound card, which Audigy provided the source for the driers
[09:48] <donttrustem> is there a debootstrap script for lucid?
[09:48] <Zircon_X> *drivers. However, when I attempt to compile it it says something to the tune of "Variable SOUND CARD not found"
[09:49] <neil_d> Zircon_X: I use a standard implementaton of ubuntu as a home server myself.
[09:49] <ruben23> Katsumi32: how do i check if its muted..?
[09:49] <Zircon_X> neil_d Ohhhh, ok. So I guess Ubuntu Server is simply Ubuntu streamlined for serving?
[09:50] <bjp> Zircon_X: it's basically for a server box that you wont be sitting in front of, I use server edition for my file server because it is headless
[09:50] <Katsumi32> ruben23, 00 mean unmuted MM mean muted
[09:50] <s3r3n1t7> Zircon_X, both the desktop and the server edition have access to the same repo's with the same software. The only difference is that the server has no desktop enviroment.
[09:51] <Zircon_X> OH well damn
[09:51] <Zircon_X> Er I mean
[09:51] <neil_d> Zircon_X: that is my understanding... it doesn't by default have and GUI ... no gnome or kde etc.
[09:51] <Zircon_X> Anyway, thanks for being helpful
[09:51] <R136a1> i am running "Chromium-browser 5.0.375.127 (55887) Ubuntu 10.04", i don't remember when the last update was made. The problem is the Inspect element window doesn't show anything. All tabs are blank
[09:51] <ruben23> Katsumi32: i got couple of MM, how do i unmute.
[09:52] <DasEi> s3r3n1t7: server has desk, too, just the software defaults are different, Zircon_X
[09:52] <Myx0x3> R136a1: try reinstall, and if it does not work contact Google
[09:52] <Katsumi32> ruben23, press m on your keyboard u dont need to unmute everything there are different futures like for your microphone etc
[09:52] <R136a1> Myx0x3, thanks
[09:52] <bjp> R136a1: you could try upgrading from the daily build ppa
[09:52] <s3r3n1t7> DasEi, after you install the server edition, it has no desktop environment installed.
[09:53] <Myx0x3> R136a1, bjp yeah, that might work also
[09:53] <DasEi> s3r3n1t7: you speak of ubuntu minimal with no soft choosen, headless, server cd has desktop
[09:53]  * R136a1 reinstalling... i'll see what happens
[09:54] <s3r3n1t7> DasEi, i've installed a dozen VM's of a Ubuntu 10.04 server installation. The server installation does not install a desktop by default. You can install it later if you wish to do so.
[09:54] <bjp> DasEi: last time I installed the ubuntu server version, there was no desktop environment installed
[09:55] <Zircon_X> What's a good, low resource WM for ubuntu?
[09:55] <R136a1> bjp, Myx0x3: reinstalling worked, thank you very much both
[09:55] <metatagg> Zircon_X: i like fluxbox
[09:55] <Myx0x3> R136a1: no problem dude :)
[09:56] <DasEi> s3r3n1t7: or are we talking besides each other, with a desktop I decribe the graphical x, the workspace you get there, not the ubuntu-desktop package, but gdm provides it
[09:56] <R136a1> :)
[09:56] <s3r3n1t7> DasEi, the graphical X, being the command line or the screen with nice little pictures?
[09:56] <Myx0x3> R136a1: take a look at Linux Mint, it uses Ubuntu, but they changed to Debian.. but if you use an "old" version of Linux Mint
[09:56] <Myx0x3> R136a1: whops wrong
[09:57] <R136a1> Myx0x3, no problem
[09:57] <Myx0x3> Zircon_X: take a look at Linux Mint, it uses Ubuntu, but they changed to Debian.. but if you use an "old" version of Linux Mint
[09:57] <DasEi> s3r3n1t7: commandline is no desktop,  gdm with x is, my interpretation
[09:57] <rockhopper> Hi, i accidentally deleted the /etc/usbmodeswitch directory!
[09:57] <rockhopper> Is there any way to get it back?
[09:57] <industrial> Are there any tablet pc's ($200~500) that are NOT going to run android but a REAL personal computer OS that you can actually use as instrument, not toy in the making? I do not consider app stores and small apps and whatnot the future of operating systems. I want to fire up a terminal, touch screen or not, and go.
[09:57] <Myx0x3> Zircon_X: they have a realy light version
[09:57] <industrial> eg, Ubuntu on the tablet
[09:57] <muhoo> pcmcia does not work at all on a compaq evo n800c with 10.4.1
[09:58] <muhoo> MANFID=0000,0000
[09:58] <muhoo> "no product info"
[09:58] <bjp> MalditoVGA: try the kernel boot parameter "xforcevesa"
[09:58] <ruben23> Katsumi32: hi see this please ---> http://i53.tinypic.com/11iffh0.png
[09:58] <neil_d> is there any way to get a script executed just before network-manager takes a wi-fi connection down?
[09:58] <l34k> how does one use the zip command in terminal?
[09:58] <MalditoVGA> already tried
[09:59] <MalditoVGA> no success
[09:59] <bjp> ah, thats what fixed my problem :/
[09:59] <s3r3n1t7> DasEi, server edition has only the command line installed by default. The only login screen you see will be text based, nothing with pictures. No GDM is installed by default.
[09:59] <neil_d> l34k: I have 'zip' and 'unzip' commands!  don't you?
[10:00] <DasEi> s3r3n1t7: I will try on a vm an report back in some minutes
[10:00] <s3r3n1t7> neil_d, you probably installed both zip and unzip.
[10:00] <abhijit> !unzip
[10:00] <abhijit> :/
[10:00] <yasir> I am working with huawie usb-modem, in windows I can choose options for selecting the preferred network (3g / gprs) is there any way I can do this on ubuntu?
[10:00] <s3r3n1t7> l34k, install the zip and unzip programs from the repo. running those without options will give you an overview of how to use them.
[10:01] <s3r3n1t7> !zip
[10:01] <abhijit> -o
[10:01] <abhijit> eyes are missing
[10:01] <miyamoto> can any help me coz installing ubuntu in my laptop head phone is not working
[10:02] <rockhopper> Does any one know how to get back the usb-modeswitch directory back that i accidentally deleted?
[10:02] <rockhopper> Please its important, help me out.
[10:02] <Katsumi32> ruben23, look like speakers are unmuted if you press -> on your keyboard there you will see more options
[10:03] <rockhopper> miyamoto, Did you check the sound preferences?
[10:03] <neil_d> is there any way to get a script executed just before network-manager takes a wi-fi connection down?   I have tried the /etc/network/if-down.d.. but the interface is already down when the script gets called.
[10:03] <s3r3n1t7> neil_d, have you tried using if-pre-up.d?
[10:03] <abhijit> neil_d, dlo you know scrpting or c programming?
[10:04] <neil_d> abhijit: dlo?
[10:04] <s3r3n1t7> oh ... you wanted down ... ignore my suggestion
[10:04] <abhijit> neil_d, 'do'
[10:04] <yasir> miyamoto: did you check  System>administration>HardwareDrivers if it's proprietary hardware
[10:04] <miyamoto> rockhopper: no i havnt
[10:04] <neil_d> abhijit: I am using scripting atm but I now C programming too.
[10:05] <miyamoto> rockhopper: just connect headset for listning music but it isnt working
[10:06] <abhijit> neil_d, suggestion: create one variable. now initilize it with 0. now tell network mngr to fst set it 1 & yhen shut down. now check that variable in loop. as it becomes 1 you will know that nm s going to shut down. then ececute code u want.
[10:06] <cemc> I have the clock on the panel and when I hover the mouse over it, it says
[10:07] <cemc> 'click to view your appointments and tasks'. when I click it, the calendar comes up, but where do I set appointments and tasks?
[10:07] <miyamoto> yasir: no there is only driver for wifi not for headset
[10:08] <Katsumi32> miyamoto, type alsamixer in terminal see if things are unmuted
[10:08] <yasir> headset: do you mean the speakers work but the headsets don't?
[10:08] <rockhopper> miyamoto, use sudo alsamixer
[10:08] <neil_d> abhijit: how 'tell network manager to fst set it 1' ?
[10:09] <miyamoto> yasir: ya speaker works but headset dosent
[10:09] <abhijit> neil_d, thats your part to figure out. i only have logic. i dont know about sysyem programming. i m student
[10:11] <abhijit> neil_d, edit source code of nm. and compile it
[10:11] <neil_d> abhijit: oh!  what I find strange is that there is no defined way to run 'pre-down' and 'post-down' scripts.  when using network-manager with a wi-fi interface.
[10:11] <industrial> practical help is the best :D
[10:11] <abhijit> neil_d, hmm
[10:11] <abhijit> industrial, self service is the best
[10:12] <miyamoto> rockhopper: so wat sud i change in alsamixer
[10:12] <ari_stress> hi all, if i install "Virtual Machine Host", what does actually get install? KVM, Xen?
[10:12] <abhijit> industrial, in foss we teach how to fish. not give a  fish
[10:12] <s3r3n1t7> ari_stress, kvm
[10:13] <industrial> abhijit: ..been using *nix for 10 years. I know :D still funny advice :>
[10:13] <abhijit> industrial, yah :)
[10:14] <neil_d> abhijit: industrial:  then there is allways what file exactly gets executed as network-manager... 'which' can't find it!
[10:14] <luclucluc2010> sigh~
[10:14] <Katsumi32> abhijit, did you catch any ?
[10:14] <abhijit> Katsumi32, :D just finished lunch!!! :)
[10:14] <luclucluc2010> I join some channel.
[10:14] <luclucluc2010> And there is no one talk in 3 hours. >_<
[10:15] <abhijit> luclucluc2010, which channel?
[10:15] <Katsumi32> luclucluc2010, im sorry:)
[10:15] <luclucluc2010> hi abhijit
[10:15] <luclucluc2010> hi Katsumi32
[10:15] <industrial> abhijit: the best dev/user interaction I ever had was this; 1) I make a feature request. 2) Developer tells me 'I\'ll await your patch'
[10:15] <luclucluc2010> Why say sorry ?
[10:16] <abhijit> industrial, lol :D
[10:16] <industrial> LOL i just escaped a ' in an english sentence -_-
[10:16] <ari_stress> thanks s3r3n1t7
[10:16] <ldvx> industrial: I was wondering why you did that :D
[10:16] <Katsumi32> luclucluc2010, not on all freenode channels people like to talk :) most busy out of all irc channels is this one #ubuntu
[10:19] <at05gt> well that didnt work :(
[10:19] <Mr_Blik> at05gt:  what didn't work
[10:19] <at05gt> ubuntu recogonized my wireless adapter but when i went to connect it just kept cycling
[10:20] <yasir> so is there anyone to  help: " I am working with huawie usb-modem, in windows I can choose options for selecting the preferred network (3g / gprs) is there any way I can do this on ubuntu?"
[10:20] <at05gt> it asked for my wep password and then the little icon just kept blinking
[10:20] <DasEi> luclucluc2010: try #defocus, technical support channel here (takes few minutes to get voiced, or ##politics
[10:20] <at05gt> it sees all the wireless in the area just wont connect to them
[10:20] <Katsumi32> at05gt, try without encryption
[10:20] <at05gt> cant
[10:20] <Tenkawa> Got an odd occurence... on a 10.04.01 box everytime I reboot the touchpad setting for tapping gets set to on even though I turn it off through touchpad prefs on a synaptics touchpad... any ideas
[10:20] <at05gt> would leave my netwok exposed
[10:21] <at05gt> network*
[10:21] <at05gt> do i need to clone the mac address?
[10:21] <Katsumi32> at05gt, just try for sec if you can connect if yes than there is a file for your wifi and u will need to configure it
[10:22] <at05gt> lemme disable my security then
[10:22] <bjp> at05gt: are you using wep?
 Thank you.
[10:23] <Katsumi32> some drivers for wifi need to be configured before youre able to use wep or wpa one of them is rt2870sta i had the same issue
[10:23] <bjp> if you're using wep, you might as well be using no encryption :b
[10:24] <at05gt_> bah it changed my nickname lol
[10:25] <at05gt_> lemme go load it back up and see if i can connect with no encryption
[10:25] <at05gt_> or should i search for a driver online?
[10:25] <ruben23> guys whats the different between OSS and ALSA for the audio..?
[10:26] <cjjnjust> I got a question : when I run gedit, the console print a balk of error like "Unable to locate image file in pixmap_path" what can i do
[10:26] <Katsumi32> at05gt if your card is recognised mean the driver is installed u can always type in terminal dmesg and see if there are any errors missing firmwares etc
[10:27] <jrib> How can I setup adduser so that a user's home directory will automatically have an acl rule associated with it
[10:28] <Katsumi32> ruben23, two types of drivers for sound cards oss isnt as good as alsa  u can find them on irc #oss #alsa
[10:28] <neil_d> trying to get some samba mount to be unmounted before network-manager disconnects the wi-fi... anyone know how to do this?
[10:28] <at05gt> brb
[10:29] <ruben23> Katsumi32: i install a new ubuntu and it only work on oss how to make  it worked with alsa..?
[10:29] <kneaux>     /join #christian
[10:29] <Katsumi32> ruben23,   how do you know your ubuntu use oss driver?
[10:30] <kneaux> oh nooo
[10:30] <kneaux> damn spaces
[10:30] <Somelauw> I have a samsung clp-310 working out of the box but it only prints black and white.
[10:30] <kneaux> (incidentally, there's someone named "assassin" in there. wicked christian, that. </offtopic>)
[10:31] <michal1> OSS - Open Sound System: Could not open audio device for recording. anybody know why?
[10:31] <ruben23> Katsumi32: i see oss; /dev/dsp; RealtekALC662 (HDA-intel) on my softphone, when i select that it work but with alsa, it wont.
[10:32] <Katsumi32> ruben type in terminal aplay -l to see your sound card and if you want to install new alsa drivers check up this just follow it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1417864&highlight=acl+1200
[10:34] <EMPulse> Hey guys, this isn't related to Ubuntu strictly. But does anyone know of a good IRC channel to join for learning C++?
[10:34] <Katsumi32> EMPulse, #c++
[10:34] <EMPulse> Katsumi32, Thanks, btw, Nice nick :P
[10:35] <Spyzer> how do i compile any source with debuggin flags(-g) enabled
[10:35] <Spyzer> ??
[10:36] <Appl6> My dpkg --get-selections is giving me totally bogus output, saying lots of packages are deinstalled when they're actually installed and not marked for deinstallation.  For example, it has aptitude marked as deinstall when it's installed and isn't marked for deinstall (as far as I can tell).
[10:36] <ectospasm> Spyzer: check the make file for CFLAGS or CCFLAGS
[10:37] <ruben23> Katsumi32:this is the output ---->http://pastebin.com/0ra6NwnL
[10:37] <Spyzer> ok
[10:40] <ruben23>  Katsumi32: what is my next step to do..?
[10:40] <reeniginEesreveR> can i upgrade nginx from 0.5 to 0.7/0.8 in hardy server?
[10:40] <Katsumi32> ruben23, u have got nvidia and acl one thing more there on top of your screen is sound icon open it check what card is selected try to change to otehr one u will see there both your card
[10:41] <Katsumi32> ruben23, if your sound still doesnt work just follow the tutorial i showed to you it work for every acl(intel) card
[10:41] <EMPulse> hello?
[10:41] <Katsumi32> EMPulse, any questions?
[10:41] <OngaVeziR> Ola bruderz
[10:41] <OngaVeziR> Hello ikonia bruder
[10:41] <EMPulse> Katsumi32, yeah, lol, sorry. How can I get an invite to the #C++ channel?
[10:42] <EMPulse> Katsumi32, I can't seen to talk there.
[10:42] <Katsumi32> EMPulse, register on freenode
[10:42] <EMPulse> Katsumi32, thanks
[10:44] <ruben23> Katsumi32: i got on the hardware is Internal Audio-Digital Audio Stereo Duplex(IEC958)
[10:45] <Katsumi32> ruben23, just test whatever u got there change and test working no? change again working no? again etc u have two cards one nvidia hda other intel acl
[10:46] <ruben23> Katsumi32: but when i do aplay -l  i see only Nvidia no intel...?
[10:48] <Katsumi32> ruben23, this one ALC662 (its realted or intel) second nvidia
[10:50] <Katsumi32> ruben23, here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601468 someone has the same card as yours
[10:55] <igorko> hi all
[10:55] <igorko> have problem
[10:55] <igorko> penguin is dead
[10:56] <igorko> not penguin- just xorg :)
[10:56] <igorko> can someone help?
[10:56] <ruben23> Katsumi32: he did not solve the problem of his audio..:-(
[10:56] <fratzbc>  /revive penguin
[10:57] <igorko> when it boots x : or videocard doesn't gives signal or screen is black and mouse is color rectangle
[10:57] <igorko> i reinstalled xorg and deleted xorg.conf- nothing
[10:59] <michal1> internal min and speaker don't work. can anybody help, please?
[10:59] <boki> any ETA on when the version will popup in ubuntu lucid?
[11:00] <boki> +new
[11:00] <michal1> running ubuntu 10.04
[11:00] <boki> yes 10.04.1
[11:00] <boki> oh never mind
[11:07] <neil_d> the network-manager scripts in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d only run when the interface is 'up' or 'down' what is needed is for them to also run when 'pre-up' and 'pre-down' (I need the 'pre-down' most)
[11:07] <maedox> neil_d, you can add a pre-up or pre-down command to /etc/network/interfaces
[11:09] <neil_d> maedox: as far as I can tell network-manager doesn't use that to bring wi-fi card up or down... I have a configured wi-fi and there is nothing in the /etc/networks/interfaces file for it.
[11:09] <maedox> aha, wi-fi, ok. sorry, then that won't work.
[11:10] <neil_d> maedox: there is a script run after the state changes... but not before.
[11:10] <michal1> where can i find "Mic Boost"?
[11:11] <aliverius> how can i have cpufreq on my k8? loading powernow-k8 and acpi-cpufreq doesnt do
[11:11] <sipior> neil_d: the script in dispatcher.d does contain stanzas for pre-up and post-down; perhaps try adding one for pre-down, see if it takes?
[11:11] <Karen_m> whenever I connect to a VPS with ubuntu, i lose all my other connections.  As soon as I disconnect from the vps, I get internet access back.  What setting am I missing?
[11:12] <ectospasm> Karen_m: seems that your VPN connection is tunneling all traffic through itself.  I dunno how to fix that though
[11:12] <neil_d> sipior: but it never calls the script at that time... I have tested it.  it only gets called once... per state change.
[11:12] <fratzbc> when setting up a VPN do you take the gateway from vpn?
[11:12] <pfifo> my wireless router likes to add its address (192.168.2.1) to the list of nameservers when someone requests an address via dhcp. Theres no way to turn this off inside the router. The router is EXTREEEEMLY!! slow in resolving a DNS query. Everytime I boot my computer I have to go into resolv.conf and edit its settings by hand to fix this. Is there a way to automatically discard the crap nameservers my router gives me and use my own? I have tride making resolv
[11:12] <pfifo> .con read only but it seems root can still write to it.
[11:12] <Karen_m> I unchecked the settings with the VPS setup
[11:13] <sipior> neil_d: seems a bit odd that they would add a pre-up case condition specifically, and then not have it work. might be worth a bug report, if only for clarification.
[11:14] <neil_d> pfifo: try something in a script in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/
[11:14] <Ologn> pfifo - what does "ls -l /etc/resolv.conf" show?
[11:14] <maedox> pfifo, I believe that in network-manager, you can select DHCP (Addresses only) and then set your own DNS statically.
[11:14] <pfifo> Ologn, right now it show what i put the manually -_-
[11:15] <DasEi> s3r3n1t7: he man,  you are right, ubuntu-server install no desktop in default, so I mixed up there, sorry for my polling O:-)
[11:15] <Katsumi32> ruben23 i showed you the first tutorial for acl cards so follow it and see if its working or not
[11:15] <pfifo> maedox, i dont have a gui
[11:15] <Ologn> pfifo: if the fourth character of "ls -l /etc/resolv.conf" is w, then root can write to it.  You can change that though.
[11:15] <s3r3n1t7> DasEi, no problem :-)
[11:15] <neil_d> sipior: I think I will... and also ask for a pre-down at the same time....
[11:16] <DasEi> s3r3n1t7: didn't YOU say it had one, hehe
[11:16] <Ologn> pfifo: Third character rather
[11:16] <pfifo> Ologn, thats not a fix thats a kludge, how can I configure my system to use my nameservers?
[11:16] <sipior> pfifo: modify /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, if you use dhclient to request the address.
[11:17] <s3r3n1t7> DasEi, hmm? I always said it did not have a desktop, whereas you claimed it did.
[11:17] <DasEi> s3r3n1t7: I was kidding, as in no problem
[11:17] <sipior> pfifo: specifically, remove "domain-name-servers" from the request line. (check "man dhclient.conf" for more)
[11:17] <maedox> pfifo, add prepend to /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf   google if.
[11:17] <maedox> google it*
[11:18] <Brandon_> hi there
[11:18] <Brandon_> anyone know any good wallpaper sites?
[11:18] <pfifo> sipior, thank you thats exactly what i was looking for
[11:18] <s3r3n1t7> Brandon_, not really ontopic, but 4walled has some good ones.
[11:18] <Brandon_> thx
[11:19] <maedox> http://www.interfacelift.com or http://www.customize.org
[11:19] <maedox> http://wallbase.net
[11:23] <abhijit> Brandon_, see bisigi project
[11:24] <Katsumi32> anyone know how to reset login apssowrd in ubuntu i forgot my old one i boot up ubuntu auto so i can access desktop but when want to install any packages it ask for passowrd so no possible to install anythiing
[11:24] <Katsumi32> how to reset it ?
[11:24] <Brandon_> thx abhijit, but I just want some wallpapers
[11:24] <jrib> !password | Katsumi32
[11:25] <abhijit> Brandon_, hmm
[11:25] <Katsumi32> tnx jrib
[11:25] <DasEi> Katsumi32: boot safemode, reset it
[11:25] <Brandon_> I RSS'ed Interfacelift and now I'm trying to figure out how I can sub customize.org
[11:27] <maedox> Brandon_, There are RSS icons all over the place
[11:27] <Brandon_> kk ty
[11:33] <Cantide> is there any way i can download Linux packages in Windows, then install them when i reboot into Linux ? ( I don't have an internet connection in Linux -_-;; )
[11:34] <Jordan_U> !offline | Cantide
[11:34] <Cantide> I guess that's a common question :D
[11:34] <Cantide> thanks, Jordan_U!
[11:35] <Jordan_U> Cantide: You're welcome.
[11:35] <petsounds> Hi. so i subscribe feeds from various website like cnn, al jazeera and reuters but liferea only show the news headlines rather than full story. what do?
[11:36] <Cantide> trying Synaptic then, because http://apt.alturl.com yeilded no results :|
[11:36] <Cantide> bbiab
[11:39] <petsounds> is there a specific software that i should use to be able to fully fetch the story?
[11:40] <Djoef> Hi, I am running ubuntu 10.04 with the nvidia driver installed, and I am trying to run an application full-screen over 2 monitors (dual screen setup)
[11:40] <lyml> Hi, I have logged in on a physical workstation and forgot to log out, how can I log myself out remotely?
[11:40] <Djoef> Apparently this does not work as expanding the edge of the application stops at the edge of one monitor, how can I make it go full screen ?
[11:42] <aliverius> $ sudo modprobe powernow-k8 doesnt load this module. what's wrong with this? i get no cpufreq stuff...
[11:43] <Juliata> Hello! My laptop wouldn't wake up from suspend; When I turn on the computer, I receive many errors, and the last in the list are no input output devices detected or smth like that; I can boot into my Windows partition, though
[11:44] <or4n> aliverius: check if there's some errors on dmesg after trying to load that module
[11:45] <aliverius> or4n: none
[11:49] <Cantide> Jordan_U: lol, i made the script but i forgot to mount the drive which i made it on... so it wasn't saved. I came back to Linux to check it out, but my internet just worked this time :D
[11:49] <Cantide> no need for those packages anymore :D
[11:51] <at05gt> Welp got Ub install on my other drive and it works great, really fast starts up and shuts down in a flash, now just need to find drivers for my wireless adapter so i can get it setup
[11:51] <at05gt> anybody know where to find drivers for a linksys WUSB100?
[11:55] <at05gt> anybody alive?
[11:55] <fratzbc> yep
[11:55] <fratzbc> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=907809
[11:56] <at05gt> ahha tyvm
[11:58] <at05gt> hope this works brb
[12:00] <fiacha> Hi.. just installed ubuntu in virtualbox.. behind a proxy... did export http_proxy but when doing aptitude update it still doesn't even try to use the proxy that i set.. what am i doing wrong??
[12:00] <fiacha> how can i get rid of sudo?
[12:00] <abhijit> !sudo | fiacha
[12:00] <ikonia> fiacha: why do you want to get rid of sudo ?
[12:01] <fiacha> ikonia: becuase it is annoying and i always forget it :(
[12:01] <ikonia> fiacha: what do you want to use in place ?
[12:02] <fiacha> ikonia: i just want to be root... hmm i remember there somethign to stay in sudo mode..
[12:02] <ikonia> fiacha: sudo -i
[12:02] <fiacha> but never mind the sudo thing.. how do i set up a http proxy for apt?
[12:02] <revilodraw> hi, when trying to burn some audio files to disc, everything seems to go fine, but the disc ends  up blank. this happened with gnomebaker and brasero. any ideas?
[12:03] <fiacha> ikonia: thank you! i knew there was somethign :)
[12:04] <XuMuK> Hi there! How could I change the default $SHELL variable from /bin/bash to /bin/zsh?
[12:04] <noahir> How to disable keyring completely ?
[12:05] <noahir> it asks for wifi
[12:05] <noahir> its annoying
[12:05] <fiacha> ok export shows http_proxy="http://10.80.225.4:8080/" but apt is not using it... why???
[12:07] <ikonia> XuMuK: change the users shell with the user admin tool or usermod
[12:07] <ikonia> XuMuK: or, if you just want the shell environment varible, not the actual shell to change, SHELL=/bin/zsh is the easy way
[12:08] <XuMuK> ikonia, thanks! I didn't think about this way xD
[12:08] <noahir> How to disable keyring completely ?
[12:08] <noahir> !keyring
[12:08] <neil_d> sipior: it seems that the upstream package maintainers removed the pre-up script execution... I found no specific mention of any pre-down condition.
[12:10] <jrib> neil_d: fwiw, I believe wicd allows you to configure such scripts
[12:11] <jrib> emphasis on *believe*
[12:11] <armor-64> hi i whant to mount a mdg file what can i do?
[12:11] <neil_d> sipior: maybe they changed the 'post' and 'post-down' to be identical at the same time.
[12:13] <neil_d> sipior: its a real big pain.
[12:13] <miyamoto> ok fine now microphone is ok but headphone is now responding
[12:14] <miyamoto>  ok fine now microphone is ok but headphone is not workin in my laptop can any one help
[12:15] <neil_d> sipior: maybe Ubuntu should change what is uses.
[12:15] <armor-64> hi i whant to mount a mdg file what can i do?
[12:16] <esperegu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTtqWgeTy38
[12:17] <bazhang> esperegu, dont paste that here
[12:18] <esperegu> bazhang: k.  sorry thought I share it ;-)
[12:18] <bazhang> esperegu, #ubuntu-offtopic in the future, thanks
[12:19] <esperegu> bazhang: k. thx
[12:20] <fiacha> ok got proxy working... grr.. so now trying to add new source ( http://apt.arrozcru.org/ ) but it just states 404 not found??
[12:20] <fiacha> oh nm forgot the last /
[12:21] <fiacha> oh no still not working just shwo the error further up?
[12:26] <DarkStar1> emergency, emergency, EMERGENCY!!! my ubuntu windows have lost their surrounding border parts such that I can only see the active part of the windows hence I can't use my mouse to grab hold of a window and move them around the desktop. I'm not sure how I accomplished this
[12:26] <abhijit> there was some command. gtk-windows restore or something like that
[12:28] <ectospasm> DarkStar1: sounds like the window manager died
[12:28] <ectospasm> DarkStar1: can you hit CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to kill your X session?
[12:28] <DarkStar1> I'll try
[12:29] <encoder> hi all, i'm looking for a software to help me do screen casts, any thing that works on ubuntu?
[12:29] <ectospasm> DarkStar1: that's not enabled by default, so you may have to switch to another virtual terminal (CTRL-ALT-F1..6) and kill your X session from there.
[12:29] <DarkStar1> nope doesn't look like the command works
[12:29] <kishon1> Hi, for every command I type in prompt I get a illegal instruction error. Any pointers on this??
[12:30] <DarkStar1> ectospasm: Nope they don't work either
[12:30] <abhijit> DarkStar1, gtk-window-decorator --replace
[12:30] <DarkStar1> ectospasm: Think I'll restart to see if the problem persists
[12:31] <DarkStar1> abhijit: Thanks!!! That worked :)
[12:31] <abhijit> DarkStar1, good! :)
[12:31] <ectospasm> kishon1: even shell built-in commands like cd?
[12:32] <kishon1> cd works..
[12:32] <kishon1> cp, su fails
[12:33] <DarkStar1> abhijit: So what happened? Did the windows manager die or something?
[12:34] <abhijit> DarkStar1, yah. its compiz bug i think
[12:34] <Ruthgard> does anyone here know anything about openldap and access rules?
[12:34] <DarkStar1> abhijit: Oh oh... Closing the terminal window re-instates the problem
[12:34] <DarkStar1> abhijit looks like a restart is forthcoming afterall
[12:34] <abhijit> DarkStar1, yah. its compiz bug now do one thing add that line i gave you in startup aps and restart ubuntu
[12:35] <Ruthgard> Hello I have a question about accesrules. I am trying to add a rule that gives a user the write permission to all but the items name attribute and I can't get it to work. Paste: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/494119/
[12:35] <Cyberai> Does anyone have experience in manually mounting an encrypted home directory that was backed up on an external hard drive? I've followed the instructions perfectly form the ubuntu help page on this. But I keep getting the error "Error mounting eCryptfs: [-20] Not a directory", and when I check /var/log/messages as it suggest I see the error "ecryptfs_read_super: path_lookup() failed".
[12:36] <Cyberai> so far googling those errors hasn't given me much info
[12:37] <DarkStar1> abhijit: Ok. Restarting. But I'll disable it first to see if the problem persists on restart
[12:37] <abhijit> DarkStar1, ok
[12:37] <Sandking> hey
[12:39] <Sandking> i'm looking some dynamic search option in gnome toolbar - if someone used OS X than that's the thing i'd want. in mint i can type the thing but i'd need to open whole cluttered menu
[12:39] <kishon> Hi, for some commands (cp, su, etc..) I type in prompt I get a illegal instruction error. Any pointers on this??
[12:39] <abhijit> Sandking, do you mean google desktop?
[12:40] <Sandking> abhijit: i haven't used google desktop, but i don't want any google apps - i need something light and fast
[12:40] <Sandking> you just click on icon, box appears, you start typing something and apps. files etc appear on the list
[12:40] <Sandking> in os x i used it primarily to open apps
[12:40] <abhijit> Sandking, gnome do?
[12:41] <Sandking> abhijit: sorry i don't understand what you mean
[12:41] <abhijit> Sandking, its the name of the software
[12:41] <abhijit> Sandking, http://do.davebsd.com/
[12:42] <Sandking> abhijit: oh :] awful name :]
[12:42] <abhijit> Sandking, its the one you want
[12:42] <Ghag> Hello, anyone know some free/open source HTML web page tools/
[12:42] <DarkStar1> abhijit: Restarting seems to have solved it. Any idea what triggers the bug?
[12:42] <Sandking> abhijit: thank you
[12:42] <abhijit> DarkStar1, its 50-50 thing
[12:43] <abhijit> Ghag, you want a software to create web sites?
[12:43] <rww> !html
[12:44] <abhijit> :(
[12:44] <Ghag> abhijit, yes like SCREem
[12:44] <abhijit> Ghag,try quanta plus
[12:47] <DarkStar1> Iis there a way to get empathy to merge all the channel windows into one window? My Cairo dock is getting absurdly longer
[12:48] <oDesk> hello
[12:49] <iflema> DarkStar1: in the prefrences, yes. ALSO Empathy is a bad choice for IRC
[12:49] <oDesk> i wanted to monitor my pc internet connection, once failed '/home/file' will run
[12:49] <DarkStar1> iflema: tbh I use pidgin as well but empathy seems to be doing the job alright
[12:49] <oDesk> i tried to use  monit
[12:50] <abhijit> Sandking, see this also though its new and .......... just have a look http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/super-light-launcher-alawalk-0-4-released-boasts-21-plug-ins/
[12:50] <oDesk> but the host name is dynamic  and using with address will not work correctly
[12:50] <Sandking> k
[12:53] <at05gt> welp im obviously too stupid for linux, cant even get the wireless to work
[12:53] <Ilay> )
[12:54] <kishon> i get "Illegal instruction (core dumped)" for commands like cp, su etc.. any help on how to get this solved??
[12:54]  * DarkStar1 pats at05gt on the head.... "There, there.. You're not stupid. Just special"
[12:54] <DarkStar1> :)
[12:54] <at05gt> hardy har har, not helping
[12:55] <DarkStar1> at05gt: Sorry dude... Couldn't help it :)
[12:55] <at05gt> sall good just wish i could get the wireless up on the other OS so i wouldnt have to keep booting vista to get answers
[12:55] <DarkStar1> kishon: What's your Installation and hardware details?
[12:56] <DarkStar1> at05gt: What's your System and hardware specs?
[12:56] <iflema> DarkStar1: :)
[12:56] <howlymowly> hi poeple..  short question:  in a multiple monitor setup: how do I change the "default" monitor? when I enable my second monitor, the desktop always goes from my laptop screen to the attached display..  which is not what I want...
[12:56] <at05gt> amd athlon 64 x2 4400+ 4 gigs of ram
[12:57] <at05gt> 300 gig hd 80 secondary
[12:57] <yrth> hello everyone... I can't install adobe flashplugin, got some conflicting packages error, but I don't know which ones...
[12:57] <at05gt> unbuntu 10. w/e 64 bit on the 80 gig
[12:58] <DarkStar1> at05gt: and the wireless card??
[12:58] <at05gt> linksys wusb100
[12:58] <iflema> howlymowly: do you have a laptop/fn key? There are settings under the desktop menu system/preferences/monitors????
[12:59] <at05gt> ive got a driver that supposed to work but i cant understand the readme file for it, im new to linux
[12:59] <DarkStar1> howlymowly: You know your GPU hardware for the system? If it's nVidia I can help ATI......... Well
[12:59]  * DarkStar1 shrugs
[12:59] <strep> hello! anybody knows why i can't open a terminal on the desktop? i'm using lucid lynx Xubuntu? when i try it says i have no permission
[13:00] <aretrfre34> Hi there!
[13:00] <yrth> strep. you probably don't have permission ;-)
[13:01] <at05gt> bah dum dum tsh
[13:01] <rileyp> is anyone using the 256 nviida driver and are they any issues Im currently using 195 and wondering if i should bit e the bullet
[13:01] <abhijit> strep, try in #xubuntu
[13:01] <DarkStar1> at05gt: I had a problem with the wireless network card on a client's laptop months back... There was a way we solved it let me try an remember... btw is the wireless a usb pluggable module or built in?
[13:01] <at05gt> its a usb stick
[13:01] <strep> ok yrth & abhijit  thank you :]
[13:01] <at05gt> i prefer then to cards
[13:02] <aretrfre34> just downloaded ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso, sha1sum is gives out not same as in website given
[13:02] <at05gt> allows me to position the antenna away from the comp
[13:02] <yrth> sorry strep, I just couldn't stop myself from cracking a joke lol
[13:02] <aretrfre34> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[13:02] <howlymowly> iflema: , DarkStar1 I have an intel graphics card...  I always use the xrandr-string: xrandr --output LVDS1 --auto --output VGA1 --auto --right-of LVDS1. In ubuntu 9.10 I always automatically had my laptopscreen as "primary" screen for some reason this changed....
[13:02] <howlymowly>  
[13:02] <aretrfre34> from there
[13:02] <aretrfre34> how comes, it's second time
[13:03] <yrth>  I can't install adobe flashplugin, got some conflicting packages error, but I don't know which ones... can anybody help me with it?
[13:03] <aretrfre34> it's sha1 algo right?
[13:03] <DarkStar1> at05gt: Oh... There's an issue with those... brb
[13:03] <aretrfre34> which algo is that?
[13:04] <aretrfre34> help, what's wrong, I'm using transmission
[13:04] <DarkStar1> at05gt: just going to see if My friend remembers the issue we had with the wireless
[13:05] <at05gt> its probably a huge hassle, im reading a forum post right now that says ill need to recompile drivers and update firmware, and thats really beyond me atm
[13:05] <DarkStar1> howlymowly: I'm sorry I haven't got any experience with the intel cards, but might I suggest
[13:06] <DarkStar1> howlymowly: you look in your xorg.conf file to see which display monitor is listed as primary?
[13:07] <aretrfre34> simple question in which algo is given at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[13:07] <maedox> aretrfre34, looks like md5
[13:08] <DarkStar1> Also brb I just remembered why I stopped using empathy gotta change back to pidgin
[13:08] <howlymowly> DarkStar1: I have a workaround:   i just found an option for xrandr:   you just use the line "xrandr --output LVDS1 --primary"
[13:08] <howlymowly> it works on my computer...
[13:08] <aretrfre34> maedox, thanks!
[13:08] <aretrfre34> maedox, just checked, even length are not same!
[13:09] <howlymowly> DarkStar1: I have a workaround:   i just found an option for xrandr:   you just use the line "xrandr --output LVDS1 --primary"
[13:09] <yrth>  I can't install adobe flashplugin, got some conflicting packages error, but I don't know which ones... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) A package failed to install.
[13:09] <howlymowly> it works on my computer...
[13:09] <aretrfre34> md5sum ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[13:09] <aretrfre34> 9a95ed6f6ec38fb58c446dba1add6a08  ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[13:09] <rockhopper> hi can someone help me please! I accidentally deleted the /etc/usb-modeswitch diretory
[13:10] <rockhopper> I need help, i got a usb mobile modem
[13:10] <aretrfre34> cdc844a364ae2417ea204ea4840129b2298e7dd4	ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso	685MiB	1560	148	74	49.54GiB
[13:10] <DarkStar1> howlymowly: Koolio can you send me the link for where you found it? I have a feeling my next laptop will come with an intel GPU
[13:10] <aretrfre34> goes here http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[13:10] <howlymowly> DarkStar1: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2007-August/027507.html
[13:10] <aretrfre34> so what algo is used there?
[13:11] <DarkStar1> howlymowly: Thanks
[13:11] <at05gt> DarkStar1: any news?
[13:11] <aretrfre34> at05gt:can you help me???
[13:11] <DarkStar1> at05gt: Yes.. Apparently something to do with the network manager
[13:11] <at05gt> lol sorry im an Ub Noob
[13:11] <aretrfre34> at05gt:I can't get ubuntu!
[13:12] <rockhopper> :( Do i have to reinstall ubuntu again?
[13:12] <at05gt> well the adapter works as far as i can see the networks around me the issue is i have no access
[13:12] <DarkStar1> You have to find the right one that will be able to run the card drivers
[13:12] <steets> Where should I go for help on the following problem: I am running 10.10 on HP Pavilion dm1 netbook. I was updating from repositories. Update froze. Restart ended with frozen gdm. Restart in rescue mode also freezes. Any suggestions?
[13:12] <at05gt> i go and put in my WEP and it just cycles and never connects
[13:12] <Gangrel> anyone can help me with my adhoc creation problem?
[13:12] <at05gt> where would i get a different network manager?
[13:13] <aretrfre34> Gangrel:go ahead and post
[13:13] <DarkStar1> at05gt: a sec
[13:13] <oDesk> !monit
[13:13] <at05gt> DarkStar1 thanks for the help its appreciated
[13:14] <DarkStar1> at05gt: np dude. We're all here to help in one way or another
[13:14] <maedox> rockhopper, I don't have that... but there is a package called usb-modeswitch. sudo dpkg-reconfigure usb-modeswitch - or maybe reinstall it.
[13:14] <Gangrel> ok lets begin : I have followed this guide http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-an-adhoc-host-with-ubuntu.html that everyone suggests and here comes the problem.... i try to host using my desktop pc so that my laptop with win7 can connect but it is not visible
[13:15] <rockhopper> maedox, I tried reinstalling usb-modeswitch, But that doesn't help me!
[13:16] <maedox> rockhopper, sudo apt-get purge usb-modeswitch and then install it again.
[13:16] <rockhopper> ok
[13:16] <AnthLee> rockhopper try aptitude purge usb-modeswitch
[13:16] <aretrfre34> maedox!
[13:16] <AnthLee> then aptitude install usb-modeswitch
[13:16] <Sander^work> Anyone know if linux-image-2.6.32-31-server_2.6.32-21.32_amd64.deb in 10.04 is using the hyper v IC 2.1 ?
[13:17] <maedox> aretrfre34, what's up?
[13:17] <yrth> I can't install adobe flashplugin, got some conflicting packages error, but I don't know which ones... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) A package failed to install.
[13:17] <theMalloc> I upgraded from karmic to lucid and now some windows (nautilus) are not skinned any more. Is this a known problem?
[13:17] <Sander^work> Or latest 10.04 kernel
[13:18] <abhijit> how to insatll ap from playdeb in terminal?
[13:18] <Sander^work> Wondring if the hyper v drivers which is rolled into 2.6.35 also exist in latest 10.04 kernel.
[13:18] <Gangrel> aretrfre34 ok lets begin : I have followed this guide http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-an-adhoc-host-with-ubuntu.html that everyone suggests and here comes the problem.... i try to host using my desktop pc so that my laptop with win7 can connect but it is not visible
[13:18] <DarkStar1> at05gt: KDE or gnome btw?
[13:19] <at05gt> i believe gnome
[13:19] <at05gt> im using lucid
[13:19] <Sander^work> Make it simpler: Does latest 10.04 kernel have code which only exist in 2.6.35 ?
[13:19] <aretrfre34> Gangrel:ubuntu won!
[13:20] <at05gt> DarkStar1: so far from my foum research it appears the USB-ID is missing from the driver files and people are having to recompile to fix it, which is beyond my abilities at this time
[13:20] <Sander^work> I assume ubuntu patches it latest 2.6.32 kernel with things from later kernels.. or am I worng?
[13:20] <ectospasm> Sander^work: that's not a safe assumption
[13:21] <AnthLee> no they just ship a new kernel
[13:21] <ectospasm> Sander^work: this isn't Red Hat, et al.
[13:21] <AnthLee> from kernel.org after some testing
[13:21] <DarkStar1> aaahh so the problem may actually be a driver issue as opposed to a system issue. Can you post me a link of one of these forums?
[13:21] <at05gt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/350695
[13:21] <at05gt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8086015#post8086015
[13:21] <craig-t> hi guys, I've been trying to get a server up an running with virtualbox with no luck.. I've installed ubuntu 10.04.. but still can't access the server from my host os (win7)
[13:21] <at05gt> second one has links to the proper drivers
[13:22] <King_Lui> Hello, ive a problem with the Virtualguestadditions ad ubuntu 10.10 beta. Has anybody some experiences with this fact.?
[13:22] <Gangrel> aretrfre34 tried with installed ubuntu on laptop and still not working
[13:22] <ectospasm> craig-t: what do you mean "access?"
[13:22] <Sander^work> ectospasm, So both options is possible?
[13:22] <craig-t> well access the server through a web browser.
[13:22] <ectospasm> Sander^work: yes, but it's more likely not in the current Ubuntu kernels.
[13:23] <TiNRiB> craig-t: are you using bridged mode networking?
[13:23] <craig-t> TiNRiB, yup..
[13:23] <TiNRiB> can you ping IP?
[13:23] <ectospasm> craig-t: is the Ubuntu guest running a service that responds on port 80
[13:23] <ectospasm> ?
[13:24] <craig-t> ectospasm, I'm not sure?
[13:24] <ectospasm> craig-t: by default, Ubuntu doesn't have any services running, including httpd on port 80
[13:25] <ectospasm> craig-t: what are you trying to do with the Ubuntu guest?
[13:25] <craig-t> oh.. how do I start those? i've installed apache..
[13:25] <ectospasm> craig-t: service apache start, or service httpd start (can't remember which)
[13:26] <ectospasm> craig-t: service apache2 start
[13:26] <ectospasm> ...had to look it up
[13:26] <Sander^work> ectospasm, what does "built-in kernel modules" mean?
[13:27] <ectospasm> Sander^work: it means drivers that are built into the kernel, as opposed to loadable and unloadable modules (typically in /lib/modules/...)
[13:28] <linuxson26> Having some difficulty with my screen resolution in Karmic
[13:28] <theMalloc> Hi all together. Can anyone help me? I upgraded from karmic to lucid and now I have some problems with themes. In some programs the mouse pointer and windows are not displayed in the theme I have set up. Does anyone have an idea what could be wrong?
[13:28] <odb|fidel> theMalloc: using a lucid theme?
[13:29] <theMalloc> Yes. Default theme.
[13:30] <kstern> question: I'm running 10.04 32-Bit. I plugged in an external monitor and it was recognized right away. How do I make the external monitor the "default" monitor and the laptop monitor the "secondary" display?
[13:30] <michal1> how get internal mic and speakers working in ubuntu 10.04 netbook?
[13:31] <Sander^work> ectospasm, when I compile it myself.. its those marked with * ?
[13:31] <michal1> please can anybody help?
[13:31] <ectospasm> Sander^work: yes, as opposed to [m]
[13:31] <Sander^work> ectospasm, ok.. then I got that term right :-)
[13:32] <Sander^work> ectospasm, very strange.. seems like hyper v drivers from the staging tree actually is compiled into latest 10.04
[13:32] <theMalloc> odb|fidel: Yes.  I have the problem with the default lucid theme, and also with the themes I used with karmic
[13:32] <michal1> jrib: i've reinstalled system back and taskbar is back.
[13:32] <at05gt> DarkStar1: I think i foun a work around 10.04 contain the proper driver i just need to enable the usb id, ima go try it and see, ill let ya know how it goes
[13:32] <michal1> jrib: thanks for yesterday
[13:32] <DarkStar1> at05gt: Ok
[13:32] <maedox> michal1, Do you expect us to be clairvoyant? :)
[13:33] <airtonix> yes
[13:33] <linuxson26> Having some display issues with Karmic. Screen resolution is set to 1400x1050, and my desktop is only showing as black.If I maximize any windows, then the frame still shows, but the content then also shows as black.Have a Radeon Mobility 9200 card
[13:33] <lessthanslashthr> uhwat
[13:33] <Vercingetorix> Have you tried changing the theme and changing it back?
[13:35] <michal1> maedox: my sound works only on external speakers. already checked there's no mute anywhere. my girlfriend says she wants to switch back to windows:( really need help.
[13:35] <TiNRiB> the theme issue is common in ubuntu. the .gnome2 config files in your home directory don't get changed correctly.
[13:35] <TiNRiB> search for it on google.
[13:35] <theMalloc> Vercingetorix: Yes. Does not change anything.
[13:35] <yrth> michal1, change girlfriends ;-)
[13:35] <strep> hi again, my problem's getting worse, i can't create a new folder on the desktop :/
[13:35] <michal1> haha
[13:36] <bazhang> yrth, thats not helpful. please stay on topic
[13:36] <maedox> michal1, Alright, so it works, just not in the right speaker. Did you try menu: System -> Preferences -> Sound -> Input/output?
[13:36] <maedox> michal1, You should be able to change which devices to use for what there.
[13:36] <theMalloc> TiNRiB: Is this an upgrade issue or an common issue?
[13:36] <Sander^work> ectospasm, how can I check which version of a kernel module which is included into latest 10.04 kernel?
[13:36] <oDesk> hello, what is the correct way to use Monit with dyndns host
[13:36] <linuxson26> Having some display issues with Karmic. Screen resolution is set to 1400x1050, and my desktop is only showing as black.If I maximize any windows, then the frame still shows, but the content then also shows as black.Have a Radeon Mobility 9200 card
[13:36] <yrth> bazhang, I can't install adobe flashplugin, got some conflicting packages error, but I don't know which ones... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) A package failed to install.
[13:37] <kstern> question: I'm running 10.04 32-Bit. I plugged in an external monitor and it was recognized right away. How do I make the external monitor the "default" monitor and the laptop monitor the "secondary" display?
[13:37] <soosfarm_> buy a mac
[13:37] <yeastwars> I have two monitors, one at 1440x900 (laptop), the other at 1600x900 (external). The output sent to the external one seems to be more like 1700x900 - I can see extra stuff if I move the display around with the monitor's settings. Why would that be?
[13:37] <DarkStar1> Sander^work: uname -a doesn't work?
[13:38] <Sander^work> DarkStar1, I'm talking about the version of hyper v kernel modules in latest 10.04
[13:38] <nouitfvf> yes!!!
[13:38] <Sander^work> DarkStar1, and not the version of the actual kernel.
[13:38] <DarkStar1> Sander^work: aahh my apologies.
[13:39] <michal1> maedox: input- internal audio analog stereo. output -> internal audio analog stereo
[13:40] <Phizzywhizz> o/ all
[13:40] <linuxson26> Having some display issues with Karmic. Screen resolution is set to 1400x1050, and my desktop is only showing as black.If I maximize any windows, then the frame still shows, but the content then also shows as black.Have a Radeon Mobility 9200 card
[13:40] <michal1> maedox: how to change devices. everywhere it's written i should go into MICBOOST but i don't have it probably.
[13:41] <kstern> question: I'm running 10.04 32-Bit. I plugged in an external monitor and it was recognized right away. How do I make the external monitor the primary display and the laptop monitor the secondary display?
[13:41] <progre55> hi guys. how do you add a user to a group? )
[13:41] <progre55> oh a terminal
[13:41] <progre55> on*
[13:41] <maedox> useradd user group
[13:41] <Phizzywhizz> I'll let these fellas sort out their issues first...
[13:41] <erUSUL> kstern: system>preferences>display
[13:42] <progre55> maedox: thanks
[13:42] <Phizzywhizz> Unless someone with Aspire One experience could pm me...
[13:42] <maedox> michal1, not sure what's up there. It might be easier to help in the forum with some screenshots of the windows.
[13:42] <nouitfvf> progre55 ||:> use webmin :D
[13:42] <airtonix> nouitfvf, from the commandline ?
[13:42] <kstern> erUSUL: I have system>preferences>monitors but that doesn't have the right options
[13:43] <michal1> Maedox: thanks man, how can i get there?
[13:43] <abhijit> how to install playdeb aps in terminal?
[13:43] <abhijit> ??
[13:43] <ProNihilist> would I be correct in thinking I can get the X source for Lynx, apply the patch used this PPA https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/xorg-server/2:1.6.4-2ubuntu4.3 and then build and intall it?
[13:43] <airtonix> abhijit, same as you do from any ppa or repo
[13:43] <erUSUL> kstern: you can not swap the mintors? ( move the left monitor to the left ?? )
[13:43] <maedox> http://ubuntuforums.org/
[13:43] <craig-t> ectospasm, not sure what I've done now.. I've switched over to NAT as I wasn't getting an IP address with the bridged connection or ping any servers.. tried "services apache2 start" but get "Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualied domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName" ??
[13:43] <maedox> michal1, http://ubuntuforums.org/
[13:43] <airtonix> craig-t, that error is not fatal.
[13:44] <michal1> maedox: thankyou
[13:44] <strep> how to get permission on desktop?
[13:44] <ProNihilist> hah/n
[13:44] <abhijit> airtonix, oh yah. thanks!
[13:44] <Quantum_Ion> What frustrates me about X is they keep moving the location of the xorg.conf file in Ubuntu Linux, it's not in /etc/X11 now it's in /usr/lib/X11
[13:44] <AnthLee> strep sudo + command
[13:44] <craig-t> airtonix, what do I do to get it working?
[13:45] <kstern> erUSUL: just switched where I mouse to in order to have the cursor on each monitor
[13:45] <airtonix> craig-t, is there a reason why you need it working ?
[13:45] <kstern> erUSUL: did not make it so main menu bars appeared on external monitor.
[13:45] <abhijit> airtonix, like we see apt-cache search can i see how much is the size of the ap i am going to install?
[13:45] <Phizzywhizz> Anyone got any ideas on how to get an aspire one's wireless working. Don't have access to a wired conn. Am talking via my wildfire.
[13:45] <craig-t> airtonix, all I want to do is to be able to access the ubuntu server from the host os (win7)
[13:45] <strep> AnthLee, it says : command not found
[13:45] <airtonix> abhijit, apt-cache show <package-name>
[13:45] <erUSUL> kstern: sorry this is as far as i can go helping you. maybe others have other ideas...
[13:45] <fixxxermet> My user crontab isn't working (crontab -e).  I have a script that runs every minute (* * * * * /home/user/script.sh) that isn't running
[13:45] <Quantum_Ion> I have this file  xorg.conf.d  in my /usr/lib/X11 I dont know what it does
[13:46] <abhijit> airtonix, yah.
[13:46] <Sander^work> Where is the source code of the latest 10.04 kernel?
[13:46] <Pici> fixxxermet: Is there a newline at the end of the crontab?
[13:46] <jfer> Phizzywhizz: i would try ndiswarpper
[13:46] <philinux> Quantum_Ion: thats a directory
[13:46] <fixxxermet> Don't think so Pici
[13:46] <Pici> fixxxermet: Add one.
[13:46] <fixxxermet> ok
[13:46] <Quantum_Ion> philinux, okay
[13:46] <linuxson26> Having some display issues with Karmic. Screen resolution is set to 1400x1050, and my desktop is only showing as black.If I maximize any windows, then the frame still shows, but the content then also shows as black.Have a Radeon Mobility 9200 card
[13:46] <airtonix> craig-t, 1. windows will only know about hostnames of other machines on a layer 3 level if you have a dns server or windows has the bonjour services installed
[13:47] <yeastwars> is there a way to display desktop icons on both monitors when in a dual monitor setup
[13:47] <airtonix> craig-t, 2. or if you manually add the hostnames to c:\windows\system32\drivers\hosts (i think thats where it is)
[13:47] <undecim> I nearly have my perfect encryption setup. My root partition is encrypted with luks/dm-crypt, and using a 2kb partition (/dev/sdb1) as the keyfile. When booting, I get dropped to busybox and have to type "cryptsetup --key-file /dev/sdb1 luksOpen /dev/sda1 root; exit" to boot. How can I get this partition unlocked automatically?
[13:47] <Phizzywhizz> Ndiswrapper...I've seen some stuff about that. Will I still need to place files in root?
[13:47] <yeastwars> and is there a way to make windows appear on the monitor in which my mouse is instead of always defaulting to the left one?
[13:47] <fixxxermet> Pici: Still no go :(
[13:47] <Quantum_Ion> philinux, When I look in the directory cd /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/ this is what I have now 05-evdev.conf  10-synaptics.conf  10-vmmouse.conf  10-wacom.conf
[13:48] <airtonix> craig-t, the hostnames you see in windows explorer is only WINS names and are not recognised outside of SMB protocol
[13:48] <philinux> Quantum_Ion: same here. No worries
[13:48] <Quantum_Ion> philinux, What happened to the old xorg.conf file ?
[13:48] <abhijit> !source | Sander^work
[13:49] <philinux> Quantum_Ion: still in same place. But you might not have one at all.
[13:49] <airtonix> craig-t, easiest way is to install "bonjour services for windows" on all your windows machines so that they can see the hostname advertisement broadcasts Avahi on your ubuntu machine sends out
[13:49] <jfer> Phizzywhizz: a full guide is available at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[13:49] <Pici> fixxxermet: Are there any lines in /var/log/auth.log for cron for when you expect it to run?
[13:49] <maedox> fixxxermet, is the script running when you execute it manually?
[13:50] <Quantum_Ion> philinux, I used to use the Linux generated version of an xorg.conf file to use it on FreeBSD but I cannot do that anymore for my computer
[13:50] <fixxxermet> Pici: I run it as a user (no sudo or privileges) but no, nothing there.  maedox Yes it is
[13:50] <fixxxermet> Pici: Cron daemon wasn't running :-p
[13:50] <Phizzywhizz> Jfer. Thanks. Hopefully this won't timeout on me.
[13:50] <jfer> Phizzywhizz: hang on
[13:50] <maedox> fixxxermet, lol, yeah, that's why :D
[13:51] <philinux> Quantum_Ion: just create one
[13:51] <linuxson26> Having some display issues with Karmic. Screen resolution is set to 1400x1050, and my desktop is only showing as black.If I maximize any windows, then the frame still shows, but the content then also shows as black.Have a Radeon Mobility 9200 card
[13:51] <jfer> i found that there is an install tool on the newer version of ubuntu
[13:51] <Quantum_Ion> philinux, Ubuntu Linux uses something different to produce an X configuration file for all computers
[13:51] <maedox> linuxson26, did you install a restricted or open-source driver for you radeon card?
[13:52] <progre55> nouitfvf: what's webmin?
[13:52] <sipior> Quantum_Ion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[13:52] <linuxson26> maedox: Didn't install anything....running the default config from Ubuntu install
[13:52] <Quantum_Ion> philinux, I ran X -configure on FreeBSD and the screen doesnt pop up like in Ubuntu Linux
[13:52] <nouitfvf> progre55 ||:> Webmin is a web-based interface for system administration for Unix.
[13:52] <linuxson26> maedox: Acer Laptop
[13:52] <nouitfvf> progre55 ||:> ;) lol
[13:53] <progre55> nouitfvf: nah, wouldnt want to install a web interface just to add a user into a group =)
[13:53] <b0ot> How do i get rid of both my login password and the sudo password?
[13:53] <philinux> Quantum_Ion: does this help. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html
[13:53] <progre55> nouitfvf: but thanks for the support though =)
[13:53] <ranjan> Hi all
[13:53] <jfer> Phizzywhizz: Ndiswrapper driver installation tool is a better option as it gives you a gui for an easy install
[13:53] <Quantum_Ion> Fatal server error:
[13:53] <Quantum_Ion> Server is already active for display 0
[13:53] <Quantum_Ion> 	If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[13:53] <Quantum_Ion> 	and start again.
[13:53] <Quantum_Ion> Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
[13:53] <FloodBot4> Quantum_Ion: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:53] <Quantum_Ion> 	 at http://wiki.x.org
[13:53] <philinux> Quantum_Ion: this IRC is for ubuntu though so I cant help as I dont know freebsd
[13:54] <ranjan> is it possible to make calls through the pcs internal modem.?? if yes is there any software for that in ubuntu
[13:54] <Phizzywhizz> Jfer. Ok. Have netbook in front of me. Can transfer files across via my phone
[13:54] <elijah> I unmounted a volume in Gparted, then I resized the partition in Gparted, how do I remount it?
[13:55] <linuxson26> maedox: soon as I drop the resolution, the desktop returns.But then all text is a bit fuzzy
[13:55] <maedox> linuxson26, sorry, i have no idea. maybe try the open-source or restricted driver.
[13:55] <Sander^work> How do I install 2.6.35.. with further updates when newer versions comes out?
[13:55] <merphy> I reconfigured the ldap server (it was running perfect, I made some changes in slapd.conf) now the server doesnt start. plese help me
[13:55] <Quantum_Ion> philinux, They keep moving the X Configuration files around in Ubuntu Linux Files ending in *.conf in the /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/ directory (NOTE: will be changed to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d for 10.10
[13:56] <linuxson26> maedox: I fixed it once, but I can't remember how. Googled it, and came upon a site which specified that I create/edit my xorg.conf file, and add some code to it
[13:56] <karto> Using a small laptop (64bit, 4GB ram)  - is there a way to get the netbook UI on a 64bit install?
[13:56] <linuxson26> maedox: something in the line of "radeon: MyRadeon"....or something like that
[13:56] <sipior> Quantum_Ion: the files haven't been moved around. they've largely been obsoleted. did you read the link i passed along?
[13:56] <progre55> how to remove a user from a group? ))
[13:56] <linuxson26> maedox: don't know where I found it...been looking for ages
[13:57] <Rou> im having a trouble to listen shoutcast streaming player on the webpage .. some one help me ?
[13:57] <nouitfvf> progre55 ||:> USE WEBMIN! =)
[13:57] <Pici> !webmin | nouitfvf
[13:57] <progre55> nouitfvf: lol ))
[13:57] <airtonix> nouitfvf, why?
[13:57] <NeoCicak> hi all.. how can i display the wireless network applet in my ubuntu? somehow its gone from the panel...
[13:58] <airtonix> NeoCicak, you need to run nm-applet
[13:58] <progre55> how to remove a user from a group on a terminal? with no webmin or whatsoever =)
[13:58] <Quantum_Ion> sipherdee, yes now I have to piece all the files in /usr/lib/xorg.conf.d into one xorg.conf file for FreeBSD to use X on my machine
[13:58] <fixxxermet> I want to start a script in a named screen (screen -S name) automatically after reboot / boot.  I know how to add scripts to runlevels but how can I have that script start in a screen?
[13:58] <merphy> I need ldap help
[13:58] <sipior> progre55: deluser <user> <group>
[13:58] <NeoCicak> airtonix: hmm..... it says "an instance of nm-applet is already running"
[13:58] <topyli> progre55, system -> administration -> users and groups. edit the group
[13:58] <airtonix> progre55, http://www.g-loaded.eu/2005/11/06/manage-users-from-the-command-line/
[13:58] <airtonix> NeoCicak, killall nm-applet && nm-applet
[13:58] <linuxson26> Having some display issues with Karmic. Screen resolution is set to 1400x1050, and my desktop is only showing as black.If I maximize any windows, then the frame still shows, but the content then also shows as black.Have a Radeon Mobility 9200 card
[13:59] <nouitfvf> Sorry guys, I do not know English well :(
[13:59] <progre55> thanks guys
[13:59] <NeoCicak> airtonix: hmm......... still not displayed.. :(
[13:59] <b0ot> How do i get rid of both my login password and the sudo password?
[13:59] <razz1> i just logged out of a ssh session and cannot log back on, says connection timed out. I know that the remote system is online, i can ping it. Anyone know how I can reset ssh connections. There is no one at the remote system
[13:59] <b0ot> I have tried modifiying things in visudo, but i must not be doing it correctly
[14:00] <bazhang> b0ot, why would you want to do that
[14:00] <maedox> b0ot, bad idea ;-)
[14:00] <airtonix> NeoCicak, sudo service network-manager restart && killall gnome-panel && killall nm-applet && nm-applet
[14:00] <b0ot> bazhang, bash scripts that need sudo access
[14:00] <topyli> NeoCicak, you probably removed the entire notification area from your panel. right click an empty spot on the applet, add the notification area
[14:00] <b0ot> maedox, do you know of a way to input sudo passwords in a bash script?
[14:00] <maedox> b0ot, NOPASSWD placed in the correct place will get you sudo anything without password.
[14:00] <neil_d> I am having trouble with wicd... It isn't running the scripts I have setup... is there any special needs of the scripts?   like being readable only by root etc.
[14:01] <maedox> b0ot, run them with /etc/crontab as root, then you can sudo to whatever in the script.
[14:01] <philinux> Quantum_Ion: You might get better help here. http://forums.freebsd.org/
[14:01] <b0ot> maedox, i tried that with visudo, but no luck
[14:01] <linuxson26> Having some display issues with Karmic. Screen resolution is set to 1400x1050, and my desktop is only showing as black.If I maximize any windows, then the frame still shows, but the content then also shows as black.Have a Radeon Mobility 9200 card
[14:02] <maedox> b0ot, rephrase: edit /etc/crontab as root and specify the correct user.
[14:02] <at05gt> DarkStar1: big stick no love
[14:02] <Rou> im having a trouble to listen shoutcast streaming player on the webpage .. some one help me ?
[14:02] <Rou> im having a trouble to playing shoutcast streaming player on the webpage .. some one help me ?
[14:02] <lk> can ati run well in linux ?
[14:02] <bazhang> Rou, no need to repeat so quickly
[14:03] <Rou> wrong typing
[14:03] <Rou> sorry
[14:03] <thesuliban1980> Hi, need help with my quanta touchscreen, either on 10.04 or on 10.10 beta.
[14:03] <NeoCicak> airtonix: hmm......... still not displayed.. :(
[14:03] <thesuliban1980> I am able to move the mousepointer when touching the screen
[14:03] <airtonix> NeoCicak, like topyli mentioned, make sure you have a "Notification Area" on your panel.
[14:04] <DarkStar1> at05gt: Still not showing any network connections eh?
[14:04] <at05gt> no i can see the networks just fine, i just cant connect to any of them
[14:04] <thesuliban1980> but when I want to scrool, it seams as if the left-klicked mousekey is emulated...
[14:04] <NeoCicak> airtonix: ahhhhhhhhhh
[14:04] <NeoCicak> airtonix: thanks for that!!!!!
[14:05] <thesuliban1980> also: I can not use easystroke to record any geistures....
[14:05] <DarkStar1> at05gt: what happens when you try to connect?
[14:05] <thesuliban1980> keeping the finger on the the screen is equal to keep the lkeft mouse-button pressed
[14:05] <at05gt> DarkStar1 nothing, it just sits there trying to connect and never does
[14:05] <thesuliban1980> please help
[14:06] <qwert> How to have independent desktop activity for every desktop?
[14:06] <kishon>  i get "Illegal instruction (core dumped)" for commands like cp, su etc.. any help on how to get this solved??
[14:06] <NeoCicak> i'm trying to upgrade my faenza icon theme... but during the upgrade, synaptic complained "/var/cache/apt/archives/faenza-icon-theme_0.7-ubuntu1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/rhythmbox/plugins/umusicstore/musicstore_icon.png', which is also in package rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store 0"
[14:06] <sipior> kishon: do any commands work?
[14:07] <kishon> commands like "cd" works..
[14:07] <sipior> kishon: that's the shell. what were you doing when the trouble started?
[14:07] <DarkStar1> at05 no messages whatsoever?
[14:07] <at05gt> nope it just does nothing
[14:08] <kishon> i'm using a ARM board.. i just booted and when I'm trying to run the command, i get illegal instruction error..
[14:08] <King_Lui> i try to find the xorg.con in ubuntu 10.10 beta. But in /etc/X11/ is nothing like an xorg.cong soes anybody know the problem?
[14:08] <bazhang> King_Lui, #ubuntu+1 for that
[14:08] <NevroPus> Is there a way to get the latest nvidia drivers for ubuntu without having to reinstall the drivers everytime the kernel is updated?
[14:09] <AnthLee> use jockey-gtk
[14:09] <sipior> King_Lui: xorg.conf is not generated by default in recent versions of ubuntu.
[14:09] <phimic> hi all
[14:09] <AnthLee> system > administration > hardware drivers
[14:09] <sipior> kishon: which ubuntu installation are you using?
[14:09] <NevroPus> AnthLee: Those drivers are OLD, I have to use the newest drivers
[14:09] <King_Lui> okay thx
[14:10] <AnthLee> smxi
[14:10] <at05gt> DarkStar1 its really frustrating me an making me not want to bother with Ubuntu and just deal with vista
[14:10] <sipior> NevroPus: no, i don't believe there is.
[14:10] <AnthLee> read the documentation i'm not gonna type out instructions :)
[14:11] <kishon> ubuntu maverick
[14:11] <NevroPus> sipior: Damn. That really sucks. How often do the ubuntu kernel have an update? Every few weeks?
[14:11] <bazhang> kishon, that's #ubuntu+1
[14:11] <kthomas> where's the menu that controls what user programs in the menus are run as?
[14:11] <majorscurvy> hi all
[14:11]  * kthomas looks sheepish
[14:11] <kthomas> hello majorscurvy
[14:11] <majorscurvy> anyone have a clue about compiz? there's not really anyone in the compiz chat lol
[14:12] <DarkStar1> at05gt: unfortunately my laptop is packed as I'm moving houses atm so I can;t help you today because I don't remember exactly how I solved the issue as it was a few months back
[14:12]  * kthomas drops clue
[14:12] <phimic> is there a solution for this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1507504
[14:12] <AnthLee> nevropus http://smxi.org/
[14:12] <sipior> NevroPus: depends. price you pay for using drivers outside the purview of the distribution.
[14:12] <at05gt> DarkStar1: its no big man, ill just go back to dealing with vista
[14:13] <kishon> bazhang: what does it means??
[14:13] <bazhang> kishon, thats the channel for maverick support   #ubuntu+1
[14:13] <AnthLee> nevropus Some nice features of that are if you install a new kernel with smxi, smxi will retain that data, then send it to sgfxi, which allows you to install the video driver to the new kernel prior to rebooting, which lets you do a full system upgrade prior to rebooting.
[14:13] <Sander^work> Does this statement mean that LIC 2.1 version of hyper v drivers might be included in latest 10.04?: Kernel updates apply as always to security updates and critical bugs. In addition, simple, obvious, quick or hardware relevant patches should be delivered so long as the next release is not yet in Beta form. Also, more updates will be moved upstream.
[14:13] <kishon>  bazhang:thanks
[14:15] <Sander^work> ectospasm, ^^
[14:15] <qwert> !crosspost
[14:16] <NevroPus> AnthLee: Thanks. I'll have a look at it
[14:17] <AnthLee> Ive never used under ubuntu but i've used with sid
[14:17] <AnthLee> and works fine :)
[14:17] <bnovc> I have 8GB ram in my machine, but /proc/meminfo is only showing 6GB. I thought several reboots ago it had recognized all of it... I thikn I have the right kernel: 2.6.32-24-generic-pae
[14:18] <erUSUL> bnovc: with 8 giB of ram you should be using 64 bits. ...
[14:21] <esmit> Does someone know some program which I set a list of proxys and it automatticaly choose the best to access the desired address?
[14:22] <JAMD456> Is there an IRC channel for the Ubuntu beta?
[14:23] <bnovc> erUSUL: PAE should be able to get 8GB also, I believe?
[14:23] <rww> JAMD456: #ubuntu+1
[14:23] <qwert> Is ther any ubottu command to know ops list?
[14:23] <JAMD456> rww: thanks
[14:23] <erUSUL> bnovc: afaik yes... maybe there is something in the dmesg. « demsg | less »
[14:24] <bazhang> qwert, why do you need it
[14:24] <King_Lui> how can i crash the x server that it cannot start at the next boot
[14:24] <ShredMaster> anyone here uses Tuxguitar or Guitarpro??
[14:24] <Phizzywhizz> I have tried installing ndiswrapper through the terminal. I keep getting error2. Any ideas?
[14:25] <bnovc> King_Lui: if you broke your config file that may happen
[14:25] <bnovc> King_Lui: go to a terminal and run startx and see what errors you et
[14:26] <bnovc> erUSUL: ya... I didn't really want to reboot, but I guess I'll need to
[14:26] <King_Lui> i dont have a xorg.conf as default there is nothing in /etc/xorg.conf
[14:27] <King_Lui> etc/X11
[14:27] <King_Lui> sry
[14:27] <bnovc> there should be content in xorg.conf...
[14:27] <King_Lui> no in ubuntu 10.10 is no xorg.conf
[14:27] <bnovc> jsut run startx and see what the error(s) are
[14:28] <rww> !10.10
[14:28] <ShredMaster> i need midi driver for ubuntu
[14:28] <bnovc> hm, well I have an xorg, but I've probably modified it
[14:28] <bnovc> I'm on 04 though
[14:29] <theMalloc> Hi guys. I have set up a custom mouse pointer but I do not see it an the gnome desktop or some gnome programs like nautilus. There I only see the default white pointer. But e.g. at firefox I see the pointer I have set...
[14:31] <kemalettin_19>  hii all!
[14:31]  * dreamtraveler is away: Auto-away after 30 mins idle (gone at 15th Sep, 16:31:45)
[14:31] <rww> !away > dreamtravele^afk
[14:32] <creature> Hello. My housemate's laptop refuses to recognise its DVD drive. It's an older Asus model, and it worked under 9.10 Ubuntu but not now she's upgraded to 10.04. It doesn't even get any /dev nodes created for it. Suggestions?
[14:33] <nouitfvf> ubuntu rulezzzzz ^__^
[14:34] <meltingwax> Hi, I'm interested in starting a patch to add colored output for apt-cache/apt-get. I'm having some trouble finding the repositories to where I can check these out, anyone happen to know where I can find them?
[14:35] <Sander^work> Where can I get an apt mirror with 2.6.35?
[14:36] <rafaelmfp> Hello. CUPS-PDF is the issue. I'm trying to generate a .pdf, print a Gnucash Invoice, using CUPS-PDF, I can get it to work, but the quality of the pdf file it's horrible. I've tryed to change printing quality/resolution on preferences, but it doesn't seem to change anything. Invoice at Gnucash is perfect, but when I generate the pdf through CUPS-PDF the result is not a good one.
[14:37] <philinux> creature: How about the livecd? Does it boot?
[14:37] <creature> philinux: I haven't got a live CD, but the drive works under Windows so I don't think it's a hardware problem.
[14:38] <stuckey> how do I capture video with webcam?
[14:38] <jussi> !info cheese | stuckey
[14:38] <bazhang> stuckey, camorama
[14:38] <eva> how do i get flash vids to work
[14:39] <kemalettin_19> kemal
[14:39] <AnthLee> install adobe flash :)
[14:39] <bazhang> eva, install the flash plug in
[14:39] <kemalettin_19> can someone tell me how to understand if my Bleachbit applicaion is updating automatically with update manager of Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[14:39] <r1pp3rj4ck> hi
[14:39] <look> r1pp3rj4ck: hai
[14:39] <eva> there is a page i am trying to go to and they tell install i did that all3 there was but it dont work anyway
[14:40] <AnthLee> eva I pmed you .
[14:40] <look> eva, in terminal do this. sudo apt-get install flashplayer-pluginnonfree
[14:40] <philinux> eva: Get this addon and use it. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/161939/
[14:40] <Terrax> can someone help me what's the function in ubuntu (linux) for the beep (int freq, int duration) in windows?
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[14:41] <sipior> i really wish that person would get another hobby.
[14:41] <nouitfvf> flood bot detected
[14:41] <r1pp3rj4ck> I have a huge problem... I cannot boot my Ubuntu 10.04 (long story) so I want to open my home folder from LiveCD to backup my data (there are some really important data), and it throws me an error while using the ecryptfs-mount-private
[14:41]  * look facepalms
[14:41] <kemalettin_19> can someone tell me how to understand if my Bleachbit applicaion is updating automatically with update manager of Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[14:42] <r1pp3rj4ck> keyctl_search: required key not available
[14:42] <frinsk> hi i am not able to show the grub menu at boot (esc keys doesn't work)
[14:42] <r1pp3rj4ck> setmntent: no such file or directory
[14:42] <bazhang> frinsk, its shift
[14:42] <r1pp3rj4ck> mount: operation not permitted
[14:42] <look> frinsk: use the shift key, hold it at boot
[14:42] <frinsk> thanks
[14:43] <philinux> kemalettin_19: If you installed it from the repos then it should update automagically.
[14:43] <eva> philinux Thanks it worked
[14:43] <Sander^work> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ <-- How do I add this to my sources.list ?
[14:43] <Terrax> what's the function in ubuntu (linux/gcc) for the beep (int freq, int duration) in windows?
[14:43] <philinux> eva: Nice one.
[14:43] <apw> Sander^work, it is not a proper PPA you cannot add it to your sources.list
[14:43] <r1pp3rj4ck> any idea?
[14:43] <kemalettin_19> philinux:  i dont remeber. but i installed as .deb package. but how to unerstand ?
[14:44] <philinux> kemalettin_19: Open a terminal. apt-cache policy bleachbit
[14:44] <Sander^work> apw, So its not possible to automaticly make sure that my distro are updated with the latest Linux kernel?
[14:44] <philinux> Or look in synaptic
[14:45] <kemalettin_19> philinux:  http://textsnip.com/d557fc	so what that means ?
[14:45] <bazhang> Sander^work, not in a supported manner, no
[14:45] <look> Sander^work: I do think that Ubuntu does get the latest linux kernels with it updates...
[14:45] <philinux> kemalettin_19: should be version 0.7.3-1 in 10.04
[14:45] <bazhang> look, not so
[14:45] <rww> !latest
[14:45] <look> bazhang: i see
[14:46] <kemalettin_19> philinux:  oh! :( what i have to do now ?
[14:46] <philinux> kemalettin_19: Look like you got a newer version
[14:46] <kemalettin_19> i will delete it first. i will install it from synaptic.
[14:46] <kemalettin_19> philinux:i will delete it first. i will install it from synaptic.
[14:47] <apw> Sander^work, not with the latest upstream versions no
[14:47] <Sander^work> bazhang, my problem is.. that I dont know what ubuntu include in the latest kernel.. is there a way of checking that?
[14:47] <apw> Sander^work, why do you need mainline kernels over the ubuntu offerings?
[14:48] <Sander^work> apw, because I want the latest hyperv LIC 2.1 which is included in 3.6.35.. 2.0 is included in 2.6.32
[14:48] <Sander^work> 2.0 is included in 2.6.32 mainline
[14:48] <apw> Sander^work, so the maverick kernel is v2.6.35 based, you could try the lts-backports kernel
[14:48] <philinux> Sander^work: 2.6.32 is the current 10.04 kernel
[14:48] <mbeierl> What is up with this unregged stuff?  I've got a registered nick but I keep getting blocked from entering this channel by floodbot.
[14:49] <bazhang> mbeierl, serious spam issues
[14:49] <qwert> How to have independent desktop activity for every desktop?
[14:49] <philinux> Sander^work: nvm
[14:49] <mbeierl> bazhang: ok, thanks - even for regged users?  shame :(
[14:49] <Pici> mbeierl: You aren't identified either.
[14:49] <bazhang> mbeierl, no, once you identify, that is
[14:49] <apw> Sander^work, but in general the mainline kernels are for testing only they are not recommended or supported for ongoing use; we do not even verify they boot
[14:50] <philinux> Sander^work: 10.10 is now using 2.6.35-21
[14:50] <mbeierl> Pici: how is it that I am not identified?  I've got a registered nick and set it up in pidgin to sign me in?
[14:50] <Cantide> does anyone know about the package "usb-modeswitch" ? I need to get it but apt get doesnt work :+
[14:50] <look> has 10.10 been released officialy?
[14:50] <rww> mbeierl: well, you didn't do it right, then, because you're not identified.
[14:50] <rww> look: no, next month.
[14:50] <look> not just in beta?
[14:50] <bazhang> look, no
[14:50] <look> rww: ok thought i had missed something
[14:51] <Sander^work> apw, philinux: cool.. where can I read about the lts-backported kernel?
[14:51] <mbeierl> rww:  oh?  how do I do it "right" then?
[14:51] <philinux> Sander^work: No idea but you could ask in here. http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=385
[14:51] <Sander^work> apw, is lts-backported kernels tested.. that they boot?
[14:51] <apw> Sander^work, it is not yet officially in the archive, it cannot be until release but it does exist in the kernel-ppa user's actual PPA in launchpad
[14:51] <look> mbeierl: when you log into freenode use /msg NickServ identify <password>
[14:51] <rww> mbeierl: no idea, I don't use pidgin. In irssi, you put ":username password" as the server password.
[14:52] <apw> Sander^work, the lts-backports kernel does indeed get tested as it is the maverick kernel
[14:52] <look> mbeierl: i would recommend Xchat for an IRC client
[14:52] <mbeierl> look and rww: I've already done that.  must be a bug in pidgin then that it's not re-registering me.
[14:52] <Sander^work> apw, ok.. whats the apt source line to use then?
[14:52] <ShredMaster> How do i install TIMIDITY ?
[14:53] <look> ShredMaster: sudo apt-get install timidity <---- try that
[14:53] <ShredMaster> look: How do i know if it is installed now?
[14:54] <look> whats the output of the apt-get, did it say it found timidity?
[14:54] <apw> Sander^work, this is the PPA: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa
[14:54] <look> to check type timidity
[14:55] <hawodi> I need help please. After hibernatiing my system, It won't boot again. It come up with "no resume image".
[14:55] <look> hawodi: that happens to me sometimes to, i just don't hibernat
[14:55] <look> *hibernate
[14:56] <hawodi> look:how do you resolve it?
[14:56] <look> hawodi: i have no idea, let me use google tis powerful
[14:57] <Sander^work> apw, so its safe to use in production enviroment?
[14:57] <Sander^work> apw, where security updates also is critical.
[14:57] <qwert> What is the difference between sudo and yast?
[14:57] <rafaelmfp> Hello. CUPS-PDF is the issue. I'm trying to generate a .pdf, print a Gnucash Invoice, using CUPS-PDF, I can get it to work, but the quality of the pdf file it's horrible. I've tryed to change printing quality/resolution on preferences, but it doesn't seem to change anything. Invoice at Gnucash is perfect, but when I generate the pdf through CUPS-PDF the result is not a good one. Or any alternative programs?
[14:58] <Sander^work> apw, kernel security updates*
[14:58] <RanyAlbeg> ALL:Which IRC client you use?
[14:58] <hawodi> I have googled it and I can't carry out the suggestion because, It doesn't even allow me to login.
[14:58] <mbeierl> Sorry to go ot, but according to unregged, "We are experiencing technical difficulties" and it's no longer accepting my nick/password.  Where do I go for help, please?
[14:58] <look> hawodi: try this, don't know if it will work or if it has information relating but http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/94/
[14:58] <hawodi> It defaults to initramfs prompt!
[14:58] <look> hawodi: pull the plug
[14:59] <Maf> 'afternoon
[14:59] <look> hawodi: reboot, then try again...there might be a problem with the install
[14:59] <rafaelmfp> mbeierl: /msg nickserv help
[15:00] <rafaelmfp> Any alternative programs to print pdf instead of CUPS-PDF?
[15:00] <Maf> Can someone please give me a sound opinion to someone installing Ubuntu server for the first time?
[15:00] <Sander^work> How do I get the add-apt-repository command in 10.04 ?
[15:00] <look> rafaelmfp: try this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software
[15:01] <RanyAlbeg> I use Pidgin to connect to IRC servers and I want to remove it and install an IRC software that is devoted only to IRC.Any recommendations of a good one?
[15:01] <AnthLee> xchat
[15:01] <ShredMaster> look:
[15:01] <ShredMaster> sudo apt-get install timidity timidity-interfaces-extra
[15:01] <Oer> irssi
[15:02] <ShredMaster> look: but it says "file not found"
[15:02] <ShredMaster> "Package"
[15:02] <ikonia> qwert: they are tottally different products and do nothing like the same thing
[15:02] <look> ShredMaster: use synaptic then.
[15:02] <RanyAlbeg> AnthLee: thanks.
[15:02] <ShredMaster> look: how
[15:02] <AnthLee> np
[15:03] <philinux> Sander^work: Example = sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily
[15:04] <look> your menu at the top left hand corner, System -> Admin -> synaptic package manager, i think thats where it is
[15:04] <ShredMaster> look: ok
[15:04] <Sander^work> philinux, I found out: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
[15:04] <apw> Sander^work, it has the same updates applied as maverick, though it may be 1-2 days behind
[15:04] <look> ShredMaster: if not then keep looking, its in the system menu
[15:05] <Sander^work> apw, cool.. thanks for your help :-)
[15:07] <Maf> has anyone here set up Ubuntu Server as a new build purely for file shares (Sage) printers and fax server for 7 Win7 workstations?  I just want an indication of how difficult it'd be.  Alternative is MSserver2003 - which I want to move away from - only if it wont cause too many problems
[15:07] <ikonia> Maf: doddle if the hardware is supported
[15:07] <look> Maf: its not to difficult if you know what your doing in the first place
[15:08] <Cantide> can anyone help with usb-modeswitch on Ubuntu 9.04 ?
[15:08] <Maf> well, I've got 8.04 desktop installed and runing with no probs before on home system
[15:08] <maco> Maf: #ubuntu-server is more likely to have people who know about servers
[15:08] <look> Maf: allthough i have not done, a print server or a fax server, i have done file share servers, (ftp samba)
[15:09] <ikonia> Maf: ubuntu desktop is a good os to use as a server
[15:09] <AnthLee> no
[15:09] <AnthLee> its not
[15:10] <ikonia> yes it i
[15:10] <ikonia> is
[15:10] <maedox> ^^
[15:10] <sipior> powerful arguments, on both sides.
[15:10] <ikonia> it's a very stable OS that is an excellent platform as a server
[15:10] <lk> i think it is ok
[15:10] <Maf> ok thanks for tips
[15:10] <Maf> I'm not scared of installing it
[15:10] <look> ikonia: it may be, but if you look at it this way, the desktop was made for regular users, not server implementaion
[15:10] <DarkStar1> anyone having trouble loading up www.pastebin.org ?
[15:10] <ikonia> Maf: you've already got desktop installed, use that, it' solid
[15:10] <Maf> but: I do have to do it and have it up and runing over a weekend
[15:11] <ikonia> look: then you have no idea what you're talking about
[15:11] <maedox> learn to use ufw and you should be set no matter which you select, server or desktop.
[15:11] <look> ikonia: what ever you say
[15:11] <sipior> look: the differences are very minor, practically speaking.
[15:12] <erUSUL> Maf: samba can serve shares and printers ( sups can be shared via cups too install IPP driver in windows boxes http://www.owlfish.com/thoughts/winipp-cups-2003-07-20.html ) . the fax server may need a little bit more tinkering ...
[15:12] <Maf> and is it easy to get it to operate as a domain that Win7 users could connect to?
[15:12] <philinux> DarkStar1: Yep
[15:12] <ikonia> Maf: that's a lot more tricky
[15:12] <erUSUL> Maf: printers* can be shared ....
[15:12] <ikonia> Maf: but very do-able if your confident with what you're doing and understand the basics
[15:12] <DarkStar1> philinux: Thanks. It's not just me then
[15:12] <Maf> I dont mind getting my hands dirty
[15:13] <Maf> but I dont want to end up with a big paperweight on monday morning and no systems connecting :)
[15:13] <erUSUL> !ebox
[15:13] <Maf> yes, I've looked at ebox, thanks
[15:14] <maedox> Maf, do backups along the way to be safe.
[15:14] <philinux> DarkStar1: I can ping it ok. It must be down though
[15:14] <AnthLee> debian is a better server
[15:14] <Maf> oh yes, will do thanks
[15:14] <AnthLee> centos is probably even better than that
[15:14] <AnthLee> gentoo slackware honestly I can think of alot of things that do servers better than ubuntu =/
[15:14] <ikonia> AnthLee: please stop talking nonsense
[15:15] <AnthLee> never used arch but i'd try it before putting ubuntu on a server
[15:15] <look> ikonia: we all have our views, nonsense or not, its their choice
[15:15] <DarkStar1> philinux: I'm just goingto use the .com for the time being
[15:15] <maedox> There are thousand of people who will disagree :D
[15:15] <sipior> ikonia: that's a bit heavy-handed.
[15:15] <ikonia> look: everyone is entitled to views, no issues, but just stating nonsense to people with no-substance is not welcome
[15:15] <AnthLee> that was not non-sense that was truth ubuntu is fine as a desktop os but as a server?
[15:15] <philinux> DarkStar1: Or this http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:16] <ikonia> AnthLee: please explain to me something that gentoo can do as a server that is better than ubuntu ?
[15:16] <AnthLee> specifically running the desktop version instead of the server edition for a server is bad advice
[15:16] <ikonia> AnthLee: why
[15:16] <ikonia> AnthLee: please explain why
[15:16] <sipior> AnthLee: ikonia: look: gentlemen, the discussion is off-topic in this channel. i can recommend you continue it in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[15:16] <AnthLee> its full of pork
[15:16] <Maf> thanks for all of your views, I need to delve deeper into the auth issues I think before I commit
[15:16] <ikonia> AnthLee: again - please stop talking nonsense "full of pork" is nonsense
[15:16] <look> sipior: i agree, which is why i stopped talking
[15:17] <AnthLee> and possibly more security vulnerabilities then other competing server distros since its built off debian unstable that does not have a security team
[15:17] <ikonia> AnthLee: possibly - you mean you don't know, so I'll say this again unless you "know" don't talk nonsense to people
[15:17] <jpds> AnthLee: Ubuntu has its own security team, and is based off stable Debian unstable.
[15:18] <Cantide> can anyone help with usb-modeswitch on Ubuntu 9.04 ?
[15:18] <jpds> AnthLee: It also has solid LTS releases which are used by companies, etc.
[15:18] <hawodi> still no luck.
[15:19] <mbeierl> rafaelmfp: nickserv cannot give me any relevant help, sorry.  It's claiming my password is invalid.  I've had this account regged for over a year now and not had problems.  Where else can one go for help?
[15:20] <progre55> hey guys. I was installing ubuntu server from an installation cd, but after a restart it falls to (initramfs) saying "Gave up waiting for root device. Common problems: .... etc". Any suggestions, please?
[15:20] <Friar> so what is up with the floodbots asking you to enter a letter?
[15:20] <AndrewMC> mbeierl: for help with the network you should go to #freenode
[15:21] <mbeierl> AndrewMC: Thanks!
[15:21] <rafaelmfp> mbeierl: join #freenode, i just did and they reseted my password. It's fast and easy. Just state your problem there.
[15:21] <erUSUL> Friar: so you leave the limbo and enter the real channel
[15:21] <erUSUL> Friar: to avoid bots
[15:21] <mbeierl> rafaelmfp: thanks - that's what I need then!
[15:21] <Castellano> hiii !!!
[15:24] <maramau> hi all, please i am in trouble with bluetooth,
[15:24] <maramau> i use ubuntu 9.10 and an usb dongle
[15:25] <BluesKaj> howdy
[15:25] <maramau> pc see every bluetooth device, but it ca't connect with
[15:25] <\DSAFEW\> maramau, which devices?
[15:26] <maramau> my kernel is 2.6.31
[15:26] <maramau> a moment
[15:26] <maramau> \DSAFEW\, Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
[15:27] <\DSAFEW\> maramau, which external devices?
[15:27] <maramau> all, cellphone, smartphone and pc
[15:27] <maramau> lg u310 nokia 5230 eeepc
[15:28] <maramau> hcitool and sdptool works but
[15:28] <maramau> hcitool cc do nothing
[15:29] <maramau> and hcitool con says : no connections
[15:29] <Cantide> can anyone help with usb-modeswitch on Ubuntu 9.04 ?
[15:29] <\DSAFEW\> maramau, to authenticate those devices you normally need to press a button to connect bluetooth to a certain network... what are you doing now?
[15:29] <espane_es> i can start this command alltray -d chromium-browser normally. but when i add it on startup it does not work. :( can someone help me please ?
[15:29] <qbitza> Hello
[15:29] <rasengan> Anyone know if there is a way to configure multi-touch 4 finger swipe with compiz-fusion effects?
[15:30] <sipior> Cantide: i think you'll need to be more specific
[15:30] <qbitza> Thinking of buying the fujitsu siemens mobile note taker
[15:30] <qbitza> Anyone knows if this works on Ubuntu?
[15:30] <maramau> authentication seems to be well, but no connection
[15:30] <maramau> (sorry for my english)
[15:30] <Cantide> sipior: I'm trying to get a USP HSDPA modem to work
[15:30] <Odo> !it | maramau
[15:30] <Cantide> and i read somewhere that i need to install usb-modeswitch
[15:31] <Cantide> but apt-get can't find the package
[15:31] <maramau> odo ci ho gia provato
[15:31] <JAMD456> Is there any good screen casting applications for Ubuntu?
[15:32] <Cantide> brb
[15:32] <at05gt> gah how do i slow down my mouse wheel scroll speed?
[15:32] <sipior> Cantide: hmm. i can see it on my machine. perhaps you're missing a repository? what does "apt-cache search modeswitch" return?
[15:32] <at05gt> its like warp 9
[15:33] <AndrewMC> at05gt: System> preferences> Mouse
[15:33] <at05gt> that doesnt give me an option for scroll speed
[15:33] <Kristiina> hi guys. i'm having a problem. when i enter in terminal 'gstreamer-properties' i'm getting "gstreamer-properties-Message: Skipping unavailable plugin". can you please help;)
[15:33] <at05gt> just movement speed and button clicks
[15:33] <qbitza> Is there an Ubuntu hardware channel?
[15:33] <espane_es> i can start this command alltray -d chromium-browser normally. but when i add it on startup it does not work. :( can someone help me please ?
[15:34] <Cantide> sipior: which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[15:34] <sipior> Cantide: i checked on both 9.10 and 10.04.
[15:34] <Cantide> oh
[15:34] <Cantide> hold on, i'll search like you said..
[15:34] <Cantide> udev-extras - additional rules and add-ons for udev
[15:35] <Cantide> I installed that earlier because it's the closest thing i could find lol
[15:36] <rapage> I like to know what is the netstat command to see listening ports on my ubuntu 10
[15:36] <Cantide> sipior: would you mind if i gave you some links in PM so you can see what i'm doing?
[15:36] <rapage> Hell america, I like to know what is the netstat command to see listening ports on my ubuntu 10
[15:36] <Cantide> what i'm trying to do rather :)
[15:36] <sipior> Cantide: sure, go ahead.
[15:36] <rapage> hello
[15:37] <\DSAFEW\> rapage, netstat -a
[15:37] <rapage> \DSAFEW\, it's too big, the terminal shows like 100 lines
[15:37] <rapage> something not filtering?
[15:38] <\DSAFEW\> rapage, netstat -a |less
[15:39] <rapage> \DSAFEW\, ther'es like 20 listernig ports?
[15:39] <mbeierl> ok, question: I've got 900m free according to system monitor and top, yet my system is swapping a lot (swapd is io bound) with 80% wait state.  how do I figure this out?
[15:39] <rapage> why is dat? I'm not hosting any server
[15:39] <Pici> rapage: netstat -tanp   is probably a better report.
[15:39] <rileyp>  is the 256  nvidia driver all good for mythtv and xbmc or are there still problems? I'm using 195 at the moment
[15:40] <sipior> rapage: if you're only interested in listening ports, replace -a with -l.
[15:41] <\DSAFEW\> rapage, you might be looking at the local services which are not open to the outside, pici has a command for you
[15:41] <progre55> hey guys. I was installing ubuntu server from an installation cd, but after a restart it falls to (initramfs) saying "Gave up waiting for root device. Common problems: - Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline); - check rootdelay=(did  the system wait long enough?)". Any suggestions, please?
[15:42] <rapage> yea I'm checking
[15:45] <rapage> what's python
[15:45] <rapage> someone connected to my phython
[15:45] <rapage> tcp        0      0 192.168.0.115:38526     64.4.61.84:1863         ESTABLISHED 6274/python
[15:46] <rapage> is dat bad?
[15:46] <rapage> apparently there's 2 connectons one is irc and other 1 is that 1
[15:47] <Pici> rapage: Check what it is: ps aux | grep 6274
[15:47] <IdleOp> it's ubuntu-one client
[15:47] <IdleOp> normal
[15:48] <rapage> can u bunut be hacked like if I leave it on overnight? the firerewall is on but I not confifured it
[15:48] <Pici> rapage: 64.4.61.84 looks to be msn messenger.
[15:48] <BluesKaj> !hacked |rapage
[15:49] <rapage> what's telepaty baterrytfly?
[15:49] <iceroot> rapage: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   is much better then using a firewall
[15:49] <Kristiina> can any one help,it's 3 days so far. my mic and speakers don't work.
[15:49] <topyli> rapage, that's msn messenger :)
[15:49] <Pici> rapage: empathy.
[15:49] <rapage> k
[15:49] <BluesKaj> !virus |rapage
[15:49] <neil_d> IdleOp: I am not using ubuntu-one I de-selected in the the 'Startup Applications'
[15:50] <rapage> iceroot, u don't beleive in firewalls?
[15:50] <neil_d> IdleOp: sorry about lag... the scroll bar wasn't at the bottom.
[15:50] <rapage> but what if an application wants to be contacted from a port other then normal
[15:50] <IdleOp> neil_d: :)
[15:50] <BluesKaj> !firewall | rapage
[15:50] <Kristiina> Would somebody be willing to go through this step by step or at least point in the right direction, please.
[15:51] <Kristiina>  "gstreamer-properties-Message: Skipping unavailable plugin".
[15:51] <rapage> !firewalle
[15:51] <rapage> !firewall
[15:52] <rapage> jeje
[15:52] <coz_> Kristiina,  did you open  alsamixer from the terminal to see if any slicers are off or muted first ...yes?
[15:52] <coz_> Kristiina,  rather "sliders"  not slicers
[15:52] <tricaric> hi guys, what's the best IRC channel to ask a  DSL modem question?? tx!
[15:52] <squaregoldfish> Using dns-masq as a DHCP server, is it possible to get a list of all currently leased IP addresses?
[15:52] <BluesKaj> Kristiina, what are you trying to do ?
[15:53] <coz_> i have to break here... be back later
[15:53] <BluesKaj> tricaric, depends on the question
[15:53] <abhijit> hi
[15:54] <BluesKaj> !ask |tricaric
[15:54] <tricaric> I need to know if it is possible to move a dsl modem from a home to another home, temporarily, where the two homes have different phone numbers
[15:54] <Kristiina> :) yes. nothing muted. i want to speak to my parents, i'm far from home and lonely. my mic not working, i found that i need to type 'gstreamer-properties' to find out the settings buy i'm getting this:
[15:54] <abhijit> tricaric, yes
[15:54] <\DSAFEW\> tricaric, that is a question for the ISP, maybe have info on broadbandreports.com
[15:54] <rapage> iceroot,
[15:54] <rapage> I
[15:55] <neil_d> I am having trouble getting samba mounts and wifi working together... everything I try seems to be a dead end... ether something doesn't work... or it crashes... I have had one of those days.
[15:55] <rapage> iceroot, I have system upgrade on gui like the ubuntu upgrade software thing I guess its da same
[15:55] <abhijit> tricaric, i think you need same ISP to do that and with same modem number try asking in  ##hardware
[15:55] <BluesKaj> tricaric,  it's possible aslong as both homes are using the same ISP
[15:55] <Kristiina> no plugins for "artsdsink''esdsink''glimagesink''sdlvideosink''v4lmjpegs''qcamsrc''esdmon'
[15:56] <Quantum_Ion> Kristiina, What country are you from ?
[15:56] <Kristiina> Ukraine
[15:56] <Kristiina> on holidays in malaysia
[15:57] <Cantide> I've seen things '<
[15:57] <tricaric> ok tx
[15:57] <Cantide> Kuala Lumpur ?
[15:57] <Kristiina> Langkawi
[15:57] <overrider> Can someone running Ubuntu Desktop 10.4 not doing anything in particular run top or ps -ax | wc and tell me their process count? My Ubuntu Server has 125 or so...
[15:57] <iceroot> rapage: you dont need a firewall to have a secure ubuntu
[15:57] <Cantide> ^^;
[15:58] <qbitza> squaregoldfish, less /var/lib/misc/dnsmasq.leases
[15:58] <neil_d> overrider: 175
[15:58] <juliusb> Hi everyone - I'm wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of information on the correct way to package a cross-compiler to be installed in Ubuntu? Particularly we're not sure about which sysroot path to use, and what the standard convention for adding your own is. Does anyone nkow where I could find information on this, or the right people who might know?
[15:58] <Pici> juliusb: #ubuntu-packaging or #ubuntu-motu
[15:58] <juliusb> Pici: Ok thanks.
[15:58] <BluesKaj> rapage, this isn't windows
[15:58] <squaregoldfish> qbitza: thx
[15:59] <AnthLee> a firewall is recommended though
[15:59] <AnthLee> I also recommend wearing a tin foil hat and a cup at all times =)
[15:59] <AnthLee> but I take the better safe than sorry stance
[15:59] <tricaric> \join ##hardware
[15:59] <BluesKaj> AnthLee, not real necessary if you're behind a properly configured router
[16:00] <Kristiina> BluesKaj: you know what this may be :no plugins for "artsdsink''esdsink''glimagesink''sdlvideosink''v4lmjpegs''qcamsrc''esdmon'
[16:00] <AnthLee> nobody is behind a properly configured router though
[16:00] <eva> anyone know how to get a samsung es15 camera to work in ubuntu f-sopt dont find the camera
[16:00] <AnthLee> my isp set mine up and didnt give me a password
[16:00] <AnthLee> I had to brute force it to set it up right
[16:00] <abhijit> tricaric, /j ##hardware
[16:00] <AnthLee> =/
[16:00] <eva> f-spot
[16:01] <BluesKaj> Kristiina, , consult your package manager withn those apps/libs , to find out
[16:01] <bobstro> BluesKaj:  i don't think that's so true anymore.
[16:01] <bobstro> BluesKaj:  so much web-borne crap and all
[16:01] <eva> and the 15 gig sd card can i not opend i dont have the right athoried
[16:01] <AnthLee> rapage I suggest installing firestarter and setting it to start at boot
[16:01] <Quantum_Ion> eva, Take the SD card out of the Digital Camera and insert it into the computer slot
[16:02] <eva> ok
[16:02] <AnthLee> its the easiest firewall gui I know of for linux
[16:02] <neil_d> AnthLee: As long as the external interface has a good firewall... we www.grc.com/  see there shieldsup service
[16:02] <AnthLee> neil most routers are not setup properly from the factory
[16:02] <BluesKaj> bobstro, I wasn't talking about windows machines
[16:03] <AnthLee> or installed by isp whos leave them improperly done .. there are whole botnets made out of routers
[16:03] <uRock> My ubuntu 10.04 just locked up and when I restarted, it went to a black screen saying "init not found" what do I do?
[16:03] <neil_d> AnthLee: as far as a firewall goes yes... but other things like PnP need to be turned off.
[16:04] <eva> Quantum_Ion it say cant mount it
[16:04] <Quantum_Ion> eva, why can't it mount it
[16:05] <fasta> How can I mount a usb-key as if I just put it in with the auto-mounter?
[16:05] <Kristiina> BLuesKaj: i'm not sure how to find them. i checked everything is up to date. external speakers work, just the internal is not working.
[16:05] <fasta> So, I already umounted it after the automounter mounted it.
[16:05] <eva> Quantum_Ion it say not authorized
[16:05] <fasta> I just want to remount it.
[16:06] <neil_d> fasta: on my system its mount in the /media/ directory under wierd series of numbers.
[16:06] <Quantum_Ion> eva, What kind of SD card is it ?
[16:06] <eva> Quantum_Ion lexar gig
[16:06] <BluesKaj> Kristiina, describe your problem exactly , I'm not sure what you are trying to do ?
[16:06] <eva> Lexar 2 gig
[16:06] <Quantum_Ion> eva, Did you check and see if it is write protected
[16:07] <Quantum_Ion> eva, any little switchs on the side of your SD card
[16:07] <eva> Quantum_Ion yes it worked on wondows
[16:07] <eva> windows
[16:07] <Kristiina> BluesKaj: my internal mic and internal speakers don't work. only external speakers. i want to get them work.
[16:07] <ServerTechLaptop> Hello, my screen has hanged after an exploit tried to control my screen which i refused. The screen is totally hanged, the only thing i can move is the mouse
[16:08] <Quantum_Ion> eva, Try taking the card out of the SD slot and reboot Ubuntu Windows then put the card back in and see if it is detected
[16:08] <BluesKaj> internal speakers , Kristiina ?
[16:08] <Quantum_Ion> I mean Ubuntu Linux
[16:08] <BluesKaj> bbl
[16:08] <eva> Quantum_Ion ok thanks
[16:08] <Kristiina> yes build in:)
[16:09] <prodigel> hi all. I have a dell inspiron 1501 laptop, and whatever I've tried when recording from mic I get this powerful background noise that covers most of the real recording. Headphones are ok, tested them on other computers. lspci tells me Intel Azalia. I don't know what to do next
[16:09] <rcsheets`> is the number in brackets at the beginning of each dmesg line the number of seconds since boot?
[16:10] <prodigel> ubuntu 10.04 64bit here, updated to date
[16:11] <pksadiq> please anybody help me to get a better irc client for linux, such as different colours for users, messages, etc..........
[16:11] <uRock> My ubuntu 10.04 just locked up and when I restarted, it went to a black screen saying "init not found" what do I do?
[16:11] <prodigel> pksadiq, xchat isn't good enough?
[16:11] <pksadiq> let me try
[16:12] <Kristiina> BluesKaj: internal
[16:12] <Cantide> does anyone have usb-modeswitch.deb ? if so, could they send it to me? :D
[16:12] <Cantide> Kristiina: i assume it's a laptop then "<
[16:12] <Kristiina> hp mini 110-3030nr (netbook)
[16:13] <abhijit> Cantide, you can search it in packages.ubuntu.com
[16:13] <Kristiina> Cantide: hp mini 110-3030nr (netbook
[16:13] <philinux> Cantide: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=usb-modeswitch
[16:14] <Cantide> oh... let me rephrase that... for Ubuntu 9.04
[16:14] <Cantide> http://blogs.fsfe.org/drdanz/?p=44 <- I've tried this, but apt-get can't find the file
[16:14] <wng-> Anyone know why some of my partitions would need a filesystem check to be completed after my 3ware card verifies the raid array over the weekend? Seems to happen every week...
[16:15] <eva> Quantum_Ion did not work ubuntu cant find my cam and the sd care is the same
[16:16] <eva> sd card
[16:17] <bootstrap> neoist
[16:17] <Kristiina> i have to go, i'll be back soon later on. thanks guys, anyway...
[16:18] <Cantide> abhijit, philinux : thanks, I'm going to try one of those off packages.ubuntu.com - even though they are for a newer version of Ubuntu than I'm running :P
[16:18] <abhijit> Cantide, you can search a package for the your ubuntu version
[16:19] <Quantum_Ion> eva, Which Ubuntu are you using type uname -a
[16:20] <Quantum_Ion> eva, copy and paste your version to the screen
[16:20] <eva> the new just installed it today
[16:20] <Quantum_Ion> eva, Open up a terminal and type uname -a
[16:20] <Cantide> abhijit: i believe that such a package does not exist, which is why i was looking for a backport
[16:21] <Quantum_Ion> eva, Copy and paste the version to the screen
[16:21] <j2quinn> if i want to install ubuntu on a laptop do i pick the desktop version or the netbook version?
[16:21] <abhijit> Cantide, use correct package name
[16:21] <philinux> abhijit: there was no package in jaunty
[16:21] <abhijit> philinux, i see.
[16:22] <pahalial> Are there any known issues with the official mysql-server-5.1 package on Ubuntu 10.04 server? Just installed it, and as best I can tell it completely failed to set itself up as a service but runs fine from `sudo -umysql /usr/sbin/mysqld`.
[16:22] <robotman1881> j2quinn: either one, I perfer the desktop version personally
[16:22] <j2quinn> k thanks
[16:23] <abhijit> anyone uses celestia here?
[16:23] <zxd> hi
[16:23] <zxd> where can I download kernel backports for jaunty
[16:23] <robotman1881> abhijit: I have the program and I think its cool, not sure I can answer any questions though :)
[16:23] <abhijit> robotman1881,  how to go to vega?
[16:24] <Cantide> abhijit, philinux : it seems to have installed okay... but i think i need to restart and test it out
[16:24] <Cantide> bbian
[16:24] <Cantide> bbiab *
[16:24] <robotman1881> abhijit: I noticed that too, I think maybe vega is a common name and perhaps the scientific name is something else, just a guess though
[16:24] <pahalial> anyone? mysql-server-5.1 on 10.04?
[16:24] <Kneta_> I'm trying to mount a drive with sshfs and I keep getting a useless "read: Connection reset by peer" message. Anyone have a clue what that might relate to?
[16:24] <padster> hi
[16:25]  * alexsander is using 10.10 beta
[16:25] <abhijit> ohh
[16:25] <padster> i can connect on freenode via a website at school :-)
[16:25] <eva> Quantom_Ion sorry was away Linux eva-laptop 2.6.32-24-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 20 14:24:04 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:26] <ProNihilist> alright, all my sound devices are listed under the hardware tab of the sound preferences window, but the only device under the output tab is a dummy output, sound has worked in the past (earlier today in fact) and I haven't installed anything or done any upgrades since it stopped working
[16:26] <pksadiq> please anybody help me to find a good irc client for ubuntu with different colours for different parameters
[16:26] <alexsander> it's just me or Gwibber freezes a lot?
[16:27] <prodigel> pksadiq, wine+mirc :)
[16:27] <pksadiq> I need a native application
[16:27] <Paddy_NI> alexsander, You should be on #ubuntu+1 for maverick
[16:27] <alexsander> pksadiq, I use xchat, but I hate colors
[16:27] <prodigel> pksadiq, tried any kde apps?
[16:27] <Quantum_Ion> Linux quantumion-laptop 2.6.32-24-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 20 14:21:58 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:27] <Paddy_NI> pksadiq, irssi
[16:28] <princefarhaan> smuxi is good too
[16:28] <xangua> alexsander: try to put update intervals in 3-5 minutes or more; i believe the update rate by default is 1 minute
[16:28] <princefarhaan> but I like xchat better
[16:28] <princefarhaan> you can turn off colors in the preferences
[16:28] <alexsander> xangua, I've put to 5 mins
[16:28] <pksadiq> are they working as shell apps?
[16:28] <Quantum_Ion> I am using a 64 bit Ubuntu Linux
[16:28] <abhijit> robotman1881, hey i installed sudo apt-get install celestia and now i cant find it? it shows that its not installed the celestia(gnome) is not installed but another celestia is insatlled.
[16:28] <abhijit> help?
[16:29] <abhijit> omg
[16:29] <abhijit> i just installed celestia for kde! :(
[16:29] <pksadiq> I need apps that work inside terminal, with ASCII fonts and too colourfull
[16:29] <padster> what do u want?
[16:29] <Quantum_Ion> eva, and your SD card still is not detected
[16:29] <Paddy_NI> pksadiq, as I said irssi
[16:29] <Pici> abhijit: Make sure that you install the celestia-gnome package.
[16:29] <prodigel> pksadiq, apt-cache search ncurse irc
[16:29] <princefarhaan> wow beats me :-)
[16:29] <abhijit> Pici, yah now installing that
[16:29] <pksadiq> k, let me try
[16:30] <prodigel> pksadiq, apt-cache search ncurses irc
[16:30] <prodigel> pksadiq, had a type there
[16:30] <abhijit> hello. if now i wanted to remove celestia-kde completely with all kde libs. will purge do this? will this cause any problem?
[16:30] <prodigel> pksadiq, typo there, beer here :)
[16:31] <pksadiq> k, wait
[16:31] <at05gt> these nvidia drivers blow, everytime i restart it reverts to 1 screen, ive got 2 monitors it wont stay in twinview
[16:32] <at05gt> and i lost my network status tray icon
[16:32] <Cantide> yay, everything works now :D
[16:32] <Cantide> thanks abhijit , philinux  :D
[16:32] <at05gt> grats
[16:32] <philinux> Cantide: good one
[16:32] <at05gt> anybody kno how to get my network status icon back on my bar?
[16:32] <maedox> at05gt, did you set it up with nvidia-settings as root?
[16:33] <philinux> at05gt: add to panle "notification area"
[16:33] <abhijit> Cantide, welcome.
[16:33] <prodigel> at05gt, alt+f2 -> nm-applet
[16:33] <abhijit> wow! celestia is listed under education and stellarium is listed under science!
[16:33] <DDAZZA> Hello, What is the fastest web browser for Ubuntu?
[16:33] <pksadiq> firefox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:34] <at05gt> prodigel: nothing
[16:34] <Paddy_NI> DDAZZA, links2
[16:34] <steveccc> does anyone know of software for ubuntu which will convert fonts - postscript to otf or ttf
[16:34] <at05gt> maedox: do what now?
[16:34] <xangua> DDAZZA: fastest¿ lynx, only text ;)
[16:34] <pksadiq> yes xabgua
[16:34] <abhijit> no
[16:34] <at05gt> omg my buttons back
[16:34] <pksadiq> sorry xangua
[16:34] <at05gt> it just appeared
[16:34] <abhijit> DDAZZA, its chromium.
[16:34] <maedox> at05gt, alt+f2 -- gksudo nvidia-settings  , then set it up as you want and save to xorg.conf.
[16:35] <Buttons840> at05gt: yes, i am back :)
[16:35] <at05gt> run that command in terminal?
[16:35] <maedox> at05gt, it usually works, but it's been a while since I tried it.
[16:35] <maedox> at05gt, yes, or in the alt+f2 run dialog in gui
[16:36] <pksadiq> save xorg.conf to your Desktop using Nvidia-settings, and later copy using sudo cp command
[16:36] <at05gt> alright lemme reinstall the driver again and run that command
[16:36] <wng-> Is a 2.6.32 kernel in any of the default repositories for 9.10?
[16:36] <b0ot> how do i determine which h264 profile is used
[16:36] <b0ot> on my system
[16:37] <abhijit> robotman1881, which version of ubuntu you are using?
[16:37] <at05gt> Does CCCP work with ubuntu?
[16:37] <at05gt> Buttons840: har har har
[16:37] <robotman1881> abhijit: lucid
[16:38] <abhijit> robotman1881, 32 or 64 ?
[16:38] <at05gt> brb maedox ill have to ask about that command again lol
[16:38] <robotman1881> abhijit: 32 on this computer, 64 on my desktop
[16:38] <abhijit> robotman1881, where you have celestia installed? 32 or 64?
[16:39] <paul____> :q
[16:39] <robotman1881> abhijit: here on my 32 bit laptop, still trying to find vega?
[16:40] <abhijit> robotman1881, celestia is toooooooooooo slow here on 64. :(
[16:40] <researcher1> how can I split a file so that it can be sent as email attachement.I have a 55 MB file to be sent to friend.Kindly help
[16:40] <robotman1881> abhijit: I didn't try it yet on my desktop, I'll go install it and see if it is for me too.
[16:41] <abhijit> researcher1, http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/02/how-to-join-and-split-files-under.html
[16:41] <eraggo> researcher1: you can use split command?
[16:41] <abhijit> robotman1881, ok
[16:41] <Hailsematary> I don't know whether this is the place to ask it or not, but I wanna know if there exists a source/link/presentation  etc. about how many developers are being paid by canonnical?
[16:42] <at05gt> maedox: back what was that nvidia command again?
[16:42] <pksadiq> nice, now using irssi, but it would be very nice if MATRIX theme is introduced ;)
[16:42] <abhijit> pksadiq, you can apply matrix theme to your terminal
[16:42] <pksadiq> bow?
[16:42] <pksadiq> how?
[16:42] <maedox> at05gt, gksudo nvidia-settings
[16:43] <hawodi> I get GRUB loading error 18.
[16:44] <pksadiq> how to apply Matrix theme for terminal?
[16:44] <at05gt> alright i saved it to the config file it should start up with both screens now ya?
[16:44] <maedox> at05gt, hopefully yes.
[16:45] <abhijit> pksadiq, in terminal select black as background and green for font color! :D
[16:45] <researcher1> eraggo: how to use split command
[16:45] <enzotib> man split
[16:45] <bobstro> researcher1:  what is the limit on attachments the for the recipient? 55MB might max out his/her inbox.
[16:46] <eraggo> researcher1: have you read manaul for it? use enzotib coomand
[16:46] <researcher1> i will try
[16:46] <at05gt> maedox: restarting and brb, if it dont work, ill email you my tears
[16:46] <robotman1881> abhijit: celestia is a bit jumpy and chppy for me as well on my 64 bit ubuntu
[16:46] <owd95> after i installed the nvidia-96 drivers my resolution is wrong, 640x400 or something and i cannot change it! help
[16:47] <abhijit> robotman1881, yah i am submitting bug
[16:48] <Pupeno[work]> How do I cat something to stderr?
[16:49] <pksadiq> try to install Nvidia-setings and change resolution
[16:49] <pksadiq> !nvidia0settings
[16:49] <pksadiq> !nvidia-settings
[16:49] <b0ot> Pupeno[work], are you trying to have error output saved to a file?
[16:49] <Pupeno[work]> b0ot: no, I'm trying to output something to stderr.
[16:51] <b0ot> maybe try 2>&1
[16:51] <enzotib> no >&2
[16:51] <Quantum_Ion> mkdir /media/sd_card
[16:51] <Quantum_Ion> mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/sd_card
[16:52] <Quantum_Ion> sudo -i mkdir /media/sd_card
[16:52] <Quantum_Ion> mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/sd_card
[16:52] <enzotib> Pupeno[work], echo "this go to stderr" >&2
[16:52] <researcher1> eraggo: my enzotib command is not working.
[16:52] <enzotib> lol
[16:52] <eraggo> enzotib?
[16:52] <eraggo> :D
[16:53] <enzotib> researcher1, the command was: man split
[16:53] <eraggo> ^ agreeing to enzotib
[16:53] <researcher1> :-D
[16:53] <ThinWhiteDuke> youtube performs so poorly on my ubuntu
[16:56] <AnthLee> thinwhiteduke do you have the proprietary drivers for your video card installed
[16:57] <ThinWhiteDuke> yeah
[16:57] <ThinWhiteDuke> i used to have video problems in general with flickering
[16:58] <ThinWhiteDuke> but i was able to disable a feature on the compizconfig called unredirect full screen
[16:58] <ThinWhiteDuke> or actually i had to enable that
[16:58] <ThinWhiteDuke> then the flickering stopped
[16:58] <AnthLee> disabling compiz in general
[16:58] <AnthLee> will help flash playback
[16:59] <noSound2> hello all. Anyone here willing to help a newbie with a sound configuration problem? No sound after upgrade to 10.04
[16:59] <ThinWhiteDuke> i'll try to figure out how to do that, thx
[16:59] <AnthLee> also flash works better on 32 bit editions of ubuntu
[16:59] <ThinWhiteDuke> i have 32 bit
[17:00] <AnthLee> try disabling compiz and shutting down any un-needed background processes consider switching to xubuntu and purging some pork for a more responsive system
[17:02] <AnthLee> other sage advice includes install all updates and try chromium-browser
[17:02] <noSound2> *sigh* no one here w/ sound expertise on ubuntu eh?
[17:02] <AnthLee> whats wrong with your sound
[17:03] <noSound2> doesn't work at all after upgrade to 10.04 from 9.10
[17:03] <AnthLee> is the sound muted
[17:03] <philinux> ThinWhiteDuke: since the update recently to 10.1 r82 flash has got very stuttery. I'm just raising a bug
[17:03] <noSound2> nope
[17:04] <noSound2> I've looked on the usual sources of info on sound torubleshooting but no avail
[17:04] <owd95> After i installed nvidia drivers my resolution is wrong and i cannot change it, i use ubuntu 10.04 with nvidia-96 drivers
[17:04] <noSound2> lspci lists the device but aplay does not see it
[17:04] <noSound2> aplay: device_list:235: no soundcards found...
[17:05] <ThinWhiteDuke> yeah stuttering is my problem
[17:05] <ThinWhiteDuke> and it stutters to the point the audio gets out of sync
[17:05] <aydin> hey everybody
[17:05] <AnthLee> I don't know much about sound but I know alot about failing ubuntu upgrades I would try testing sound with a live cd and if it works reinstall os
[17:05] <AnthLee> :)
[17:06] <MrUnagi> my 3g sucks
[17:06] <noSound2> sadly it doesn't work with a live cd I got - an old one albeit..my old 8.04 live cd
[17:06] <AnthLee> id try with a recent cd
[17:06] <Kristiina> internal mic and speaker not working in ubuntu 10.04 (netbook). can anybody help?
[17:06] <noSound2> now would reinstalling it wreck my existing install?
[17:06] <AnthLee> yes
[17:07] <philinux> ThinWhiteDuke: please change the status to confirmed.
[17:07] <philinux> ThinWhiteDuke: please change the status to confirmed. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/639707
[17:07] <noSound2> i mean would i need to back up my /etc and maybe other stuff? I've got a few things above the base install that I'd like preserved
[17:07] <noSound2> like my samba confs and what not
[17:07] <Licuadora> How do i install a GPU driver? is a .run file
[17:07] <AnthLee> you can do some backing up of things
[17:08] <aretrfre34> Why my letters are cripled in lucid fresh install: http://imagebin.org/114222
[17:08] <ZekeS> Licuadora: depends on the driver
[17:08] <AnthLee> thats the only advice I can offer
[17:08] <AnthLee> either that or wait for someone who is better at troubleshooting sound issues
[17:08] <noSound2> well thanks
[17:08] <ThinWhiteDuke> ok let me register real quick
[17:08] <Licuadora> It is a Nvidia QuadroFX driver
[17:08] <noSound2> =)
[17:08] <rionstrife> hi all
[17:08] <AnthLee> i've never actually experienced a dist-upgrade in ubuntu that something didnt fail
[17:09] <aretrfre34> hi
[17:09] <rionstrife> do u think its possible to do loadbalancing with ubuntu?
[17:09] <aretrfre34> Why my letters are cripled in lucid fresh install: http://imagebin.org/114222
[17:09] <rionstrife> i have 2 isp here...isp a for gaming and isp b for browsing/download
[17:09] <wng-> AnthLee: dist-upgrade's rarely fail over here
[17:09] <AnthLee> not once have I had success in ubuntu ..
[17:09] <rionstrife> i think i should mangle it by port..but i dont know where to star
[17:09] <AnthLee> over several machines
[17:09] <AnthLee> and many years
[17:09] <ThinWhiteDuke> philinux, how do i change the status? should i just comment and say i have the same problem?
[17:09] <at05gt> where do i get flash player so i can go on youtube? the addons inside firefox dont list anything
[17:09] <aretrfre34> Why my letters are crippled in lucid fresh install: http://imagebin.org/114222
[17:10] <jpds> !flash | at05gt
[17:10] <aretrfre34> at05gt:google://get flash
[17:10] <jpds> aretrfre34: ...
[17:10] <philinux> ThinWhiteDuke: Click the NEW under Status and change it to confirmed. You can add a comment as well.
[17:10] <ZekeS> Licuadora: installing the Restricted Drivers ubuntu automatically promtped you to do didn't work?
[17:10] <of2vil> hello, ive installed ubuntu 10.04 yesterday, ran all updates and everything worked fine Ã- right now, when i am trying to play any audio file just noise comes from the speaker Ã- any idea?
[17:10] <rionstrife> hi all
[17:10] <collabra> at05gt: if you want other codecs as well as flashplayer do a: sudo ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:11] <aretrfre34> jpds:Why my letters are crippled in lucid fresh install: http://imagebin.org/114222
[17:11] <rionstrife> do u think its possible to do loadbalancing with ubuntu?i have 2 isp here.i want to make ISP a for game and isp b for browsing..but i dont know which way to go :)
[17:11] <collabra> at05gt: sorry sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:11] <ZekeS> Licuadora: v. 256.53, the latest stable version, is automatically installed by the restricted drivers and works fine for mr (Quadro FX 3700M)
[17:12] <jdimatteo> hi, I'm trying to setup a vpn on Ubuntu 10.04, and when I run it I get errors that my users doesn't have permissions to execute pppd and peers -- is there a group I can add my user to to resolve this?
[17:12] <AnthLee> dear channel aptitude > apt-get
[17:12] <ZekeS> Licuadora: if not, there's always NVIDIA's readme http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/256.53/README/index.html :p
[17:12] <jpds> aretrfre34: Try: Ctrl++
[17:12] <ZekeS> :|
[17:13] <bobstro> rionstrife:  what sort of router do you have?
[17:13] <aretrfre34> jpds:looks nicer
[17:13] <AnthLee> I wonder how many times a day a problem is solved by ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:14] <ZekeS> AnthLee: too many I'm sure
[17:14] <d1gital> hello, room.   I am using the Broadcom STA wireless drivers for my BCM4322 in promisc mode to sniff packets with Wireshark.  The trouble is, I'm only seeing ARP and UDP traffic.  No capture filters are enabled.  Why are the packets from my other laptop not visible in Wireshark?>
[17:14] <bobstro> rionstrife:  that will be more of a router configuration issue... unless you are using a linux router?
[17:14] <at05gt> thanks Anth i wasnt aware that package existed :)
[17:15] <AnthLee> np
[17:15] <jdimatteo> I don't want to run my vpn software as root, but I'm sort of a newb, can someone please recommend a group I can my user to use ppp and ppers?  or please suggest relevant doc or another channel?
[17:16] <philinux> ThinWhiteDuke: Thanks
[17:16] <eraggo> d1gital: fireshark sniffs only traffic that comes to your computer (as i know)
[17:18] <aretrfre34> !wayttd
[17:18] <aretrfre34> !ubutto wayttd
[17:18] <d1gital> eraggo:  Both computers are connected to the same wireless network, so the card must be receiving the packets; but somewhere along the line they are dropped before Wireshark can analyze them.
[17:19] <Spyzer> hi all, can we have different ubuntu main menu for different user accounts??
[17:20] <Spyzer> huh??
[17:21] <solid_liq> your spambot is b0rken
[17:21] <collabra> Spyzer: System>Preferences>Main Menu ...
[17:21] <d1gital> tried tcpdump -vv : same result.  any ideas?
[17:21] <Spyzer> no i mean which file does it write to??
[17:22] <Spyzer> gnome.conf??
[17:22] <Spyzer> and is that possible in kde as well
[17:22] <eraggo> d1gital: do you see normal browsing in wireshrak? i'm kind of sure that if packet is sent to certain ip, receiver will drop packet if it isn't meant for it..
[17:24] <maedox> at05gt, how did the nvidia thing turn out? I was away for a while...
[17:24] <d1gital> eraggo:  I can see traffic to/from the machine wireshark is running on, but I thought that Wireshark would put the card into promiscuous mode in order to dump all traffic it sees.
[17:25] <collabra> Spyzer: not sure...
[17:25] <gh0zt> d1gital depends how your router is set up
[17:25] <at05gt> maedox: its working now
[17:25] <gh0zt> d1gital some configs will isolate the traffic
[17:25] <at05gt> maedox: just need to figure out how to slow down my mouse wheels scrolling
[17:26] <brontoeee> is it possible to install unity desktop on lucid lynx?
[17:26] <ProNihilist> how do I change the default mixer device for OSS4? ossmix -d 1 just seems to be a way to access information about the device
[17:26] <Paddy_NI> brontoeee, Yes but apparently the PPA packages are old
[17:26] <maedox> at05gt, great :)
[17:27] <brontoeee> Paddy_NI, old? like old version of unity for lynx and brand new for merkat
[17:27] <Paddy_NI> brontoeee, I would wait unless you want a broken desktop/netbook interface
[17:27] <d1gital> gh0zt  oh, I was not aware.  how does that work?  (a link/google query would be fine =])
[17:27] <Paddy_NI> brontoeee, no as in just old compared to the latest version
[17:27] <NeKit|EeePC> hello
[17:27] <brontoeee> Paddy_NI, how about upgrade of lynx to merkat beta, how much would that brake?
[17:28] <NeKit|EeePC> is there any way to install (and use :)) Ubuntu with about 1 Gb of space?
[17:28] <gh0zt> d1gital check your router wireless security config for AP Isolation
[17:28] <xangua> NeKit|EeePC: ubuntu minimal¿
[17:28] <eraggo> d1gital: why you would like to see traffic other than on your computer?
[17:28] <NeKit|EeePC> I want to use it on EeePC 700 2G Surf
[17:28] <Paddy_NI> brontoeee, well its in beta still but if you wish to give it a try I would suggest chatting with the folks on #ubuntu+1 to get an better idea of what to expect
[17:28] <NeKit|EeePC> but still I have to keep one partition for Windows XP
[17:28] <Paddy_NI> brontoeee, they could always use more testers
[17:28] <Paddy_NI> :)
[17:29] <brontoeee> Paddy_NI, ok
[17:29] <brontoeee> Paddy_NI, nah, i need features, unfortunatelly my time is limited.....
[17:29] <NeKit|EeePC> now I'm using SliTaz, but I really liked Plasma-netbook, but it's too slow from SD card
[17:29] <jdimatteo> so I've got a file /usr/sbin/pppd owned by the group dip, and I added my user to the dip group, but I still can't execute pppd -- do I need to reload the group file or something?
[17:31] <bobstro> d1gital:  is this your network, or you're just poking around?
[17:31] <bobstro> d1gital:  what you're seeing is probably the only unencrypted traffic that wireshark is finding.
[17:32] <crawler> hi there.  i need help making this launcher work right, it's an "application in the teminal launcher", and the command is "rm -rf /home/dimension/emptythis/*" but when i click the launcher, nothing happens..any ideas?
[17:32] <bobstro> d1gital:  if you can look at the wireless router/AP, you can check other settings if you want to see what's inside.
[17:32] <d1gital> eraggo:  I disabled AP isolation, and my problem is solved.   I don't understand, though, how a router can be sending unencrypted network traffic over the air, yet still isolating it to specific hosts.  I need to read more about wireless networking, I suppose.
[17:33] <d1gital> gotta run, thanks guys!
[17:33] <gh0zt> d1gital: np
[17:33] <gh0zt> d1gital the isolation is base don bridging the ethernet
[17:34] <NeKit|EeePC> xangua, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD?
[17:34] <xangua> NeKit|EeePC: yes¿
[17:35] <sinman> whats the the command to install a bin file?
[17:36] <crawler> maybe my problem is better solved with a bash script??
[17:37] <crawler> i don't know, i'm still learning this stuff
[17:37] <robotman1881> sinman: usually you just make it executable and run it
[17:37] <sinman> I'm still learning linux, thats why I'm asking
[17:38] <JohnnyL> Where do I get the package development names for bison and flex?
[17:39] <collabra> sinman: you can make it executeable and then run it that way,... or do a : sudo sh ./<filename>
[17:40] <sinman> collabra: how do i go about making it executable
[17:40] <crawler> okay, i just put that command in a simple sh script and it worked fine, thanks anyway room
[17:41] <cmpsalvestrini> Okay... I have downloaded a program's source with mercurial, compiled, and checked that it runs. How do I go about making a debian package for it?
[17:41] <crawler> should have tried that before
[17:41] <collabra> sinman: sudo chmod +x ./<filename>
[17:41] <sinman> collabra: thanxs,
[17:41] <collabra> np
[17:42] <Pici> cmpsalvestrini: See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide and also #ubuntu-packaging
[17:43] <JohnnyL> anyone , anyone?
[17:43] <acacia> Hello
[17:44] <nouitfvf> HUI PIZDA)
[17:44] <crawler> okay i have another question, what is the terminal command for the "Clear Recent Documents..." item in the main menu??  i'd like to incorperate this into my script.
[17:44] <collabra> !hi | acacia
[17:45] <rapage> guys I'm scarfe
[17:46] <rapage> I received a similar email to waht I received on windwos that loaded a virus on my pc, same thing just happened here on firefox from ubuntu I wanna know if I got infected
[17:46] <ljsoftnet> whats the default keyboard layout? my numeric keypad 8 and 2 are inter changed
[17:46] <schiggy> hi @all - does anyone knows a comand, which will make a popup on an remotecomputer? i will show a warning
[17:46] <{n8}> schiggy: zenity
[17:46] <{n8}> maybe?
[17:48] <acacia> rapage: if you know the name of the virus you can look it up on trend micro website and it should tell you what software it effects
[17:48] <dajhorn> schiggy: Like {n8} said, you can use a zenity helper, but you'll need to do it as the root user and figure out how to send it to the right DISPLAY=.
[17:49] <rapage> acacia, there's no name
[17:49] <rapage> just injects
[17:49] <schiggy> thx4help
[17:50] <collabra> rapage: clamav...?
[17:50] <kucumber> Hi there, anyone here know how to restart a panel on lxde?
[17:51] <blaz_> hi, did anyone try to install linux on 2010 macbook / mac mini (with nvidia 320m); does it work?
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> kucumber:  i think its controlled by the lxpanel program. kill/restart that program and it should do it. You may want to ask in #lubuntu, or #lxde
[17:51] <collabra> rapage: clamtk is the gui version of that
[17:52] <rapage> cool
[17:52] <sinman> I just installed a game but I don't have permission to run the game how can I change the permission
[17:52] <kucumber> thanks Dr_Willis
[17:52] <Wernis> I want to open my delphi projects in lazarus, but it's not noticing the GUI of my form, can i convert my delphi files to work propperly in Lazarus
[17:52] <ljsoftnet> whats the default keyboard layout? my numeric keypad 8 and 2 are inter changed
[17:52] <NCS_One> hi
[17:53] <ljsoftnet> whats the default keyboard layout? my numeric keypad 7,8,9 and 1,2,3 are inter changed
[17:53] <xinuiyssieng> hello guyz
[17:53] <collabra> sinman: did you use sudo to install it
[17:53] <{n8}> ı̣ɐɥ
[17:54] <sinman> yes
[17:54] <NCS_One> what file system should I choose for a new HD, ext3, ext4, ... ?
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> !info lazarus
[17:54] <collabra> sinman: does it appear in the menu...?
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> NCS_One:  depends on yoru needs.. may as well use ext4 if  You dont have a reason not to.
[17:54] <narkby> how do you play wma files in ubuntu?
[17:54] <abhijit> narkby, install vlc
[17:54] <sinman> it does but when i click on on it it says i don't have permission
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> narkby:  vlc, or mplayer with the w32codecs pack proberly can play them
[17:55] <ViN86> narkby, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225743
[17:55] <NCS_One> Dr_Willis: and what are does reasons ?
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> NCS_One:  none i can think of off hand.
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> NCS_One:  some disrtos/old releases may not support ext4. but that would be rare now a days
[17:55] <ljsoftnet> whats the default keyboard layout? my numeric keypad 7,8,9 and 1,2,3 are inter changed
[17:55] <collabra> sinman: hmm,... i wonder if it made a 'group' you need to be a part of first...
[17:55] <fuorviatos> Hello
[17:56] <sinman> collabra i kinda messed up on the install so i need to change the permission to uninstall it and do it again
[17:56] <narkby> i tried installing the restricted extras package and mp player but couldn't play them :s
[17:56] <squarepeg> This sshfs unmount bug is excruciating
[17:56] <sinman> collabra: I don't know
[17:56] <squarepeg> it locks up your terminal
[17:56] <NCS_One> Dr_Willis: the HD is only for this Ubuntu
[17:56] <fuorviatos> Is there any channel for reporting problems with Beta 10.10?
[17:56] <at05gt> where do i get AVG from?
[17:56] <collabra> sinman: was it a repository game or one you downloaded off the internet
[17:57] <fuorviatos> !beta
[17:57] <at05gt> or does linux not get viruses?
[17:57] <jillrose89> hey can ask a quetions?
[17:57] <jillrose89> hey can I ask a quetions?
[17:57] <sinman> collabra: I downloaded off the net, it's a game called Planeshift
[17:57] <NCS_One> at05gt: I dont think there is a AVG for linux
[17:57] <gh0zt> yes, if you pay me $1 Billion
[17:57] <collabra> sinman: was it a *.deb file?
[17:58] <sinman> collabra: no a bin file
[17:58] <jillrose89> Does Istealer run on ubuntu does it works as cookie stealer thanks
[17:58] <at05gt> is there anti virus for ubuntu?
[17:58] <narkby> at05gt you could try clamtk
[17:58] <jillrose89> yes there is
[17:58] <AnthLee> http://free.avg.com/us-en/download.prd-afl
[17:58] <collabra> sinman: can you post the website, please?
[17:58] <squarepeg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sshfs-fuse/+bug/159031
[17:58] <sinman> collabra: yes give me a sec to get it
[17:58] <squarepeg> this bug has been aggravating since 2008
[17:58] <at05gt> ty narkby
[17:59] <NCS_One> at05gt: on aptitude you can search for virus or antivirus ...
[17:59] <jillrose89> help me pls :((
[17:59] <judgen> How do i Install let's say net-boot or any other iso onto a empty HDD from within windows?
[17:59] <squarepeg> sshfs is very valuable, but when you drop your connection without unmounting the remove file system, you're screwed.
[17:59] <abhijit> judgen, use unetbootin
[17:59] <squarepeg> *unmounting the remote file system*
[17:59] <sinman> collabra: http://www.planeshift.it/
[18:00] <abhijit> judgen, and ##windows for microsoft help
[18:00] <narkby> not really a question about ubuntu, but why do some people have orange names?
[18:00] <abhijit> orange? you mean color?
[18:00] <narkby> yes
[18:00] <abhijit> narkby, in irc?
[18:00] <narkby> yes
[18:00] <narkby> colored names
[18:01] <abhijit> narkby, its a setting in your irc client to show color nicks
[18:01] <jillrose89> wala bang pinoy dito?
[18:01] <narkby> ok :)
[18:01] <abhijit> narkby, and when someone puts your nick and talks to your in most of the irc client it becomes red
[18:02] <Kristiina> hello
[18:02] <RenatoSilva> how to set the umask for a given user?
[18:03] <DrDark> what package can i use to add subtitles to a movie?
[18:03] <Trashi> hi. i ve a broken path on my system. if i try to run /usr/bin/sqlite3 it works really great but if i try "sqlite3" only, it looks into the /usr/local/bin directory instead the /usr/bin and returns "file not found". can anybody explain how to and where to fix this path?
[18:03] <narkby> ah so when someone uses my name in chat their name turns a different color?
[18:03] <collabra> sinman: give me a minute
[18:03] <fratz_afk> DrDark: vlc can just play them inside the movie (?)
[18:03] <sinman> collabra: k np
[18:04] <DrDark> i want to stream it to my ps3 and it won't add the subs when its separated
[18:04] <ZekeS> narkby: yes
[18:04] <ZekeS> narkby: it's called hilighting
[18:04] <sweb> how can i determine the device of a special path on terminal? for example /home/sweb/myfolder is /dev/sda3
[18:04] <sweb> how can i determine /dev/sda3
[18:04] <collabra> sinman: did you receive any errors on install?
[18:04] <ZekeS> narkby: it calls your attention to someone who's trying to get your attention
[18:04] <ZekeS> like me
[18:05] <narkby> ok :)
[18:05] <coty_> Hey, I'v been wanting to start making a gnome theme and haven't found any good guides on how to begin. Anyone have a good website I that can help explain the process?
[18:05] <ZekeS> narkby: tabcomplete is fun^
[18:05] <ZekeS> ^^
[18:05] <sinman> no
[18:05] <narkby> tabcomplete?
[18:06] <Trashi> hi. i ve a broken path on my system. if i try to run /usr/bin/sqlite3 it works really great but if i try "sqlite3" only, it looks into the /usr/local/bin directory instead the /usr/bin and returns "file not found". can anybody explain how to and where to fix this path?
[18:06] <collabra> sinman: there is a minimal amount of documentation on this game.
[18:06] <sinman> collabra: no, at the end of the installation it ask me if I wanted to set permission and forgot to change it from no to yes before i had click forward
[18:06] <ZekeS> In some clients (not sure if xchat does it) you can autocomplete usernames like you would commands in the terminal
[18:06] <ZekeS> so I just hit na-tab to get narkby
[18:06] <sweb> any body get my question
[18:06] <sweb> ?
[18:06] <dajhorn> sweb: The easy way is to run `mount` or look at /proc/mounts.
[18:06] <astrojp> What's the name of the name of package for the development headers and library for mysql on ubuntu? libmysqlclient-dev or something else?
[18:06] <collabra> sinman: well, then just re-run the install on top and change it to yes...
[18:07] <sweb> dajhorn, hmmmmm
[18:07] <collabra> sinman: it should adjust the config
[18:07] <sinman> collabra: I know, I figure if I can change the folder perission to myself instead of root I should be ok
[18:07] <narkby> oh like the autocomplete in the terminal ^_^
[18:07] <sinman> collabra: k I'll give it a shot
[18:07] <collabra> sinman: i would try installing on top, first.
[18:07] <collabra> sinman: lemmy know how it goes
[18:07] <drean> Hi, can anyone point me to some docs about installing Ubuntu Server 10.4 from usb. I've tried to use netbootin and Universal usb install, it says that it cant find the cdrom.
[18:08] <blaz_> Trashi: echo $PATH, what do you get?
[18:08] <maedox> DrDark, PS3 Media Server might be able to do that.
[18:08] <Trashi> blaz_: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
[18:08] <servietsky> hi
[18:09] <DrDark> it doesn't i check it already
[18:09] <Typh> Hrm, I've got a DateTimeField, and when I save, it does not quote the value, so postgres throws a syntax error. I can't find any bugs googling. Django 96, postgresql_psycopg2
[18:09] <servietsky> how to make a website think I'm using firefox while i'm using wget ?
[18:09] <rajmahendra> i have a problem when submitting bug. When is submit the but i am getting a problem message box saying.. "The problem cannot be reported: you have some obsolete package versions installed." and it lists some packages... How can i update those pakages .. can i update them indivudally ?
[18:09] <maedox> sweb, `mount | column -t`
[18:09] <drean> servietsky: set the useragent in wget
[18:09] <blaz_> Trashi: /usr/bin is later in the path, shell would normally go there if the executable is not found in /usr/local/bin
[18:10] <Trashi> blaz_: i know! so where's the problem?
[18:10] <DrDark> it all depends on your streamer if your streamer supports adding subtitles to the video it will stream it with subs but mediatomb doesn't add it automaticly so i need to add it manualy and i need to find a package to do that
[18:10] <sweb> maedox, tnx
[18:11] <blaz_> Trashi:  sorry, no idea ..
[18:11] <rajmahendra> anyone help me how to update absolete packages ?
[18:11] <Wernis> is kylix still around ?
[18:11] <Trashi> ok thx
[18:11] <crawler> coty_: one way to learn would be to download a nice theme and start editing it.  sorry i don't know of any tutorials though but here are some places to start: art.gnome.org & gnome-look.org
[18:11] <astrojp> What's the name of the name of package for the development headers and library for mysql on ubuntu? libmysqlclient-dev or something else?
[18:11] <blaz_> Trashi: try 'which sqlite3'
[18:12] <sinman> collabra: I got not writable by the current user. should I do this as sudo like i did the first time
[18:12] <marko-_-> why won't ubuntu recognize my mp3? lsusb gives me Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0471:207b Philips
[18:12] <collabra> sinman: yes
[18:12] <Trashi> blaz_: ~# which sqlite3 > /usr/bin/sqlite3
[18:12] <Guest42198> I'm having some audio issues. It only works when I have a headset plugged in. I'm using a Realtek ACL 665
[18:12] <Typh> whoops, wrong channel
[18:13] <sinman> collabra: k
[18:13] <Trashi> blaz_: idea? :)
[18:13] <sweb> how can i get system resource state
[18:13] <sweb> ?
[18:14] <blaz_> Trashi: no, I am even more confused
[18:14] <sweb> ram cpu state my mean
[18:14] <Trashi> blaz_: like me ;) ok thx 4 help
[18:14] <philinux> sweb: Exactly what?
[18:14] <sweb> philinux, in terminal in time that system start to now
[18:14] <crawler> marko-_-: see this thread, it seems to be an open bug in gvfs: http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9776658
[18:15] <philinux> sweb: you mean uptime?
[18:15] <sweb>  philinux, yeah
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> sweb:  dozens of commands to get various info. 'hwinfo' 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' (or other /proc files,) htop and top.
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> sweb:  'uptime' command
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> !info sysinfo
[18:18] <Kristiina> is it possible that there's no drivers in Ubuntu for mic and speakers for my hp mini 110-3030nr netbook?
[18:18] <Kristiina> where can i find drivers for card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: HDA Generic [HDA Generic]
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> Kristiina:  i would check the forums for that exact netbook. It may need some tweaks to work
[18:19] <blaz_> Does linux work on 2010 macbook or mac mini (the one with nvidia 320m) ?
[18:19] <Asigottech> Kristiina: you should have them, you sure the right hardware is selected under sound prefrences ?
[18:19] <blaz_> osx sucks ..
[18:19] <Kristiina> Dr_Willis: nothing there about it. it's new.
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> Kristiina:  try 10.10 on it as a test. see if it works  on it.
[18:20] <crawler> Kristiina: just curious, are you using the ubuntu netbook edition?
[18:20] <Asigottech> blaz_: I kinda like it, what about dual booting ?
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> Kristiina:  brand new as in just released recently. its possible there some issues with it. or its not supported. Hard to tell
[18:21] <blaz_> Asigottech: i am new to it. I do not know if linux will work with this new hardware. Could not find anyting by googling..
[18:21] <Asigottech> blaz_: try a live disk
[18:22] <Nat_> hello, I have a problem with my wifi! I have sony vaio fw11e and my wifi doesn't work. When I installed ubuntu it worked but now after updating my wifi hasn't been working... Can you help me??
[18:22] <blaz_> Asigottech: good point..
[18:22] <Asigottech> blaz_: :D
[18:22] <Kristiina> Asigottech: i have there "Insternal Audio; 1outpu/1inpu; Analog stereo Duplex. you see if i connect speakers to netbook, they wotk. but mic and speakers (builtin) not working.
[18:22] <Kristiina> crawler: yes
[18:23] <Trashi> blaz_: all right ... shutdown -r now and it works ..  :/
[18:23] <Kristiina> is this commant OK:  cat/proc/asound/version
[18:23] <Asigottech> Kristiina: try switching to another profile
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> $ cat /proc/asound/version
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.23.
[18:24] <Asigottech> Kristiina: cat /proc/asound/version  space after cat
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> Im on a 10.10 box :)  so yours may differ.
[18:25] <Kristiina> Asigottech: will try now. I'm running system check and i can see the report after but i don't understand anything from that
[18:25] <sinman> collabra: the reinstalling worked and this time i set the permission.
[18:25] <Asigottech> Kristiina: do you hear the login / startup sound ?
[18:25] <Katsumi32> kristinakristina try this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1417864&highlight=acl+1200
[18:25] <sinman> collabra: thanxs
[18:25] <marko-_-> crawler, thanks, is there a work around?
[18:25] <silverpower> Is there a way to purge the application cache? I'm at 96% on / (8GB allocated), so I kind of need some more space.
[18:25] <collabra> sinman: great,.... glad to help. =)
[18:26] <Pici> silverpower: The apt cache you mean?  sudo apt-get clean
[18:26] <AnthLee> sudo aptitude clean -.-
[18:26] <silverpower> Pici, yeah, that's it. :)
[18:26] <Kristiina> Asigottech: would it be safe to download drivers from realtek for linux?
[18:26] <silverpower> Was having a brain fart. :)
[18:26] <Katsumi32> silverpower, try bleachbit it will help you clean whole ubuntu like cc cleaner in windows
[18:27] <Kristiina> no sound at all from builtin and mic not working. but eternal speakers run OK so i guess..., i don't know.
[18:27] <sas> hi all, my first 3hours in ubuntu; can someone to update my bios via remote desktop?
[18:27] <Katsumi32> sas hehehe
[18:27] <svzard> hi how do i access my encrypted home directory from another distro?
[18:27] <sas> ;)
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> Kristiina:  perhaps run the alsa-mixer applet/program and play with the sliders
[18:28] <Asigottech> Kristiina: never used them, if they are for your platform then probally, did you try changing profiles ? click the icon, select sound preferences look under hardware, if no luck check output has the right options
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> oops.. my mistake. its 'alsamixer' no -
[18:28] <crawler> marko-_-: not sure... one guy said, "I installed kubuntu-desktop from the repos and am using it to drag and drop files to my player", so maybe try that for now
[18:29] <marko-_-> yeah i saw that
[18:29] <marko-_-> man that's a serious bug ffs
[18:29] <marko-_-> they should fix that
[18:29] <Kristiina> Dr_Willis:  did it, also downloaded everything that had ALSA in it:(
[18:30] <dajhorn> svzard: Do you know whether your home directory is LUKS or cryptfs?
[18:30] <gabe_> hello, I need help please. My system says it needs to update but when I click on the reload button in synaptic, I get a message that says it could not download all repository indexes (can't paste everything because it's too long) even though I already ran all the commands listed on medibuntu
[18:30] <gabe_> how can I fix this?
[18:30] <crawler> marko-_-: yes, i agree.  good luck finind a solution :)
[18:30] <svzard> dajhorn: no. what ever default used on lucid
[18:31] <blaz_> Kristiina: did you try unmuting channels in alsamixer by hitting 'm'? (I guess you did)
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> Kristiina:  if sound works out of one set of outputs, (the heaphones) but not the normal speakers. sounds like an alsa bug to me.  I would test it in a 10.10 also. It might have been fixed in the next release. Youy should file a bug in any case.
[18:31] <JoshuaL> i have remote desktop enabled at windows vista, how can i take over that computer with ubuntu?
[18:31] <dajhorn> svzard: Do you have a /home/.ecryptfs folder?
[18:31] <Katsumi32> gabe_,  try to change server
[18:31] <gabe_> how do I do that?
[18:31] <Kristiina> blaz_:yeah:)
[18:32] <Katsumi32> system admintistration software source gabe_
[18:32] <gabe_> under the Ubuntu tab? does it matter what I choose?
[18:32] <crawler> JoshuaL: try using the terminal server client, or installing a vnc server such as tightvnc on the vista box, and accessing it with the remote desktop viewer
[18:33] <Kristiina> Dr_Willis: do you know how long would it take to fix it? i need use skype and do't want to go back to windows7
[18:33] <Katsumi32> system is on the top[ of your screen in the panel
[18:33] <JoshuaL> crawler, thanks :)
[18:33] <crawler> JoshuaL: ok, good luck
[18:33] <svzard> dajhorn: all i see when i do sudo ls svzard/ from within ubuntu mount is 'Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop and README.txt
[18:33] <JoshuaL> crawler, ty
[18:34] <gabe_> yes, I already opened it... but there are many tabs to choose from: Ubuntu, Other Software, Updates, Authentication, and Statistics
[18:34] <dajhorn> svzard: Do you have a /home/.ecryptfs folder?  It will be hidden in Nautilus.  Go look for it.
[18:34] <dajhorn> svzard: Reading the README.txt file would help you.
[18:34] <penthief> I want to dual boot Ubuntu Studio with my existing Fedora installation. Should I create a new volume group with 3 logical volumes (root/home/swap) to install into or is there a better way?
[18:34] <thiebaude_> got a quick question, im trying to make a launcher for my trash icon, where do i find the trash icon in ubuntu?
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> Kristiina:  no idea. How can i even guess... :)
[18:34] <Katsumi32> gabe_, first tab you see there download from click on it than click other than select best server
[18:35] <Katsumi32> gabe_, wait till it finishes and close it.
[18:35] <blaz_> Kristiina: sorry I did not follow from the start but if it is a problem with skype 'audio recording settings' then there is also something called 'Capture' in alsamixer and I had to press space to switch it on.
[18:35] <svzard> dajhorn: i guess i had /home/.Private or something. The thing is some update screwed my ubuntu. If I login my keyboard and mouse freezes.
[18:36] <svzard> dajhorn: so i want to access my files before i t/s or reinstall ubuntu.
[18:36] <silverpower> Katsumi32, thanks, that did the trick. I'm down to 85%. :D
[18:36] <dajhorn> svzard: Use the Live CD to recover your data.
[18:36] <crawler> thiebaude_: try looking in /usr/share/icons/gnome/* and /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/places
[18:36] <Katsumi32> thiebaude_, right click on the bottom panel scroll to add to the panel
[18:37] <dajhorn> svzard: And look at the /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog files.  Check whether you're getting any obvious error messages.
[18:37] <svzard> dajhorn: does that gives access to encrypted home?
[18:37] <thiebaude_> crawler, thanks and Katsumi32
[18:37] <thiebaude_> :)
[18:37] <dajhorn> svzard: When you find your raw home directory, you must mount it manually.
[18:37] <dajhorn> svzard: Go read this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[18:37] <gabe_> still I get the same message
[18:38] <svzard> dajhorn: ok. will try that.
[18:38] <gabe_> I am in the US and I chose United States, but that's what was selected before anyway :(
[18:38] <mightyknighty> is there any known issue involving ubuntu and savage1 where accessing the gamedirectory is a problem? ;D
[18:38] <Kristiina> blaz_: in alsa mizer i have written: card:pulseaudio; chip:pulseaudio. then i have master with a lock and capture with the lock. should i unlock it or keep it locked?
[18:38] <Katsumi32> gabe_,  paste the message u see on http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:39] <rottik9> how do i install sun-java6 in ubuntu 10?
[18:39] <Kristiina> blaz_: i can move master but capture is not moving
[18:39] <xangua> !java | rottik9
[18:39] <Katsumi32> rottik9, use synaptic
[18:40] <Kristiina> is Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.21.
[18:40] <Kristiina>  the latest vesion?
[18:40] <Katsumi32> no kristina i think 1.0.23 is the latest alsa driver check it on alsa web
[18:40] <ems> ok so any idea why my background changes every 20 minutes ??
[18:41] <ems> i picked the earth one
[18:41] <Pici> ems: Its a slideshow.
[18:41] <gabe_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/494321/
[18:41] <ems> Pici, ok thanks, good. i thought something was wrong
[18:42] <blaz_> Kristiina: with Capture locked, I could not record any sound in test call. Had to unlock it using space bar (weird ui...). I also have custom /etc/asound.conf and had to change input source in 'skype in'. Is it the problem with skype not recording any sound in test call?
[18:42] <Kristiina> Katsumi32: could you tell me exactly where?
[18:43] <dajhorn> gabe_: Remove the mirror repository, and then go back to the Medibuntu installation instructions.
[18:43] <Katsumi32> Kristiina, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page
[18:43] <thiebaude_> Katsumi32, i got it all i did was open configuration editor,lol to add the trash icon to the desktop
[18:43] <gabe_> here you are Kristiina, google.com does it http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page
[18:44] <narkby> how do i install sun java instead of openjdk, it says: "Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[18:44] <narkby> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[18:44] <narkby> is only available from another source
[18:44] <narkby> "
[18:44] <Katsumi32> i wont be able to add trash to desktop only panels thiebaude_ u can use docky etc if you want trash or clock on your desktop
[18:44] <FloodBot4> narkby: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:44] <Kristiina> blaz_: no sound in test call, no sound in recording programme. you see it's strange in the skype the only option i have is pulse. can i change it somehow?
[18:44] <maco> narkby: partner repository
[18:44] <Kristiina> gabe_: sorry i'm blonde
[18:44] <erUSUL> Kristiina: install linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic
[18:44] <Kristiina> gabe_: thanks:)
[18:45] <erUSUL> Kristiina: compiling alsa from source should be last resort
[18:45] <narkby> how do i enable partner repository?
[18:45] <thiebaude_> Katsumi32, ok thanks,
[18:45] <gabe_> lol no worries we help however we can
[18:45] <kanaly> Hello
[18:45] <maco> narkby: uncomment its lines in /etc/apt/sources.list or use system -> administration -> software sources
[18:45] <blaz_> Kristiina: did you managed to unlock Capture? try that first
[18:45] <Kristiina> erUSUL:  how can i find it?
[18:45] <gabe_> dajhor: is this the command to remove it? sudo sed -e 's/ non-free//' -i /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[18:45] <erUSUL> Kristiina: System>Admin...>synaptic ...
[18:45] <erUSUL> Kristiina: use the search button
[18:46] <perola> Testing.
[18:46] <eva> my acer aspire 5510 dont shut down when i press shut down
[18:46] <Kristiina> blaz_: yeah, nut i can't move the slider on the capture
[18:47] <rottik9> great got it ty...
[18:49] <Kristiina> erUSUL: i can see 2.same version, should i ahead with them or just one?
[18:50] <erUSUL> Kristiina: install just one
[18:50] <Kristiina> erUSUL: sorry one ends with .pae
[18:50] <Oewyn> I just recently upgraded to 10.04 and I noticed that gcc-4.2 is no longer available.  Is there any way to safely install the package w/out breaking other package dependencies?
[18:50] <erUSUL> Kristiina: unless you are using the pae kernel that's not what you want
[18:51] <blaz_> Kristiina: ok that's different for me, i can slide it.. Anyway I would first try to get sound recording working in Audacity (or whatever program you are using). Skype seem to have other issues on top of that (that is why I needed custom /etc/asound.conf). One step at a time...
[18:51] <erUSUL> Oewyn: any reason you need it? what's wrong with default gcc ?
[18:52] <Kristiina> erUSUL: i wish i could be like you guys, i don't even know how to delete the chat button besides the on/off button
[18:52] <Oewyn> For compatability reasons, we need to use 4.2 on so products and 4.4 on others.
[18:52] <Oewyn> some*
[18:53] <Kristiina> blaz_: thanks. you're right.
[18:53] <erUSUL> Kristiina: it only takes time ;)
[18:54] <Kristiina> erUSUL: i need to speak to my mom tomorrow. i need to have it fixed:) already 3 days doing that.
[18:54] <erUSUL> Kristiina: skype?
[18:55] <Kristiina> yeah
[18:55] <Oewyn> last time when i tried to use dpkg to install an unsupported package a whole bunch of dependencies got broken and I ended up having to revert the changes.
[18:56] <antlong> what commands are available to check harddisk utilization (in terms of current r/w thoroughput and usage)
[18:56] <evans> HELLO can i get an invite please anyone pretty please
[18:56] <Kristiina> erUSUL: should i restart after installing?
[18:56] <ikonia> evans: invite for what ?
[18:56] <erUSUL> Kristiina: never used the software...
[18:56] <erUSUL> Kristiina: yes
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> evans:  we invite you to read up on irc. :)
[18:57] <erUSUL> a restart is required. but dunno if sound drivers is the problem
[18:57] <alket> where are packages that i installed through apt-get ?
[18:58] <Oewyn> erUSUL: any ideas?
[18:58] <erUSUL> alket: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[18:58] <alket> thank you erUSUL
[19:00] <Iulia> Hello everybody! Please, can someone tell me a program able to check failures on a HDD? One of my HDD's is damaged I think, and I need to check it. Thanks.
[19:00] <Goldline> hey uh guys i have a question
[19:00] <marcellus_> olaaaa
[19:00] <Goldline> Theres an mIRC addon called XDCC browser
[19:00] <marcellus_> saluti a tutti belli e brutti
[19:00] <Goldline> to download files similar to P2P in mIRC
[19:00] <Goldline> is that safe to use?
[19:00] <erUSUL> Iulia: system>admin>diesk utility?
[19:01] <erUSUL> Goldline: mirc is a windows software.
[19:01] <Pici> Goldline: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[19:01] <Iulia> is that one good for when the HDD may be physically damaged?
[19:01] <Kristiina> ErUSUL: it better be. what bugs me that the external speakers work and on the sound preferences in input i can see like there would be mic working,when i speak the slider  moves.
[19:01] <erUSUL> Iulia: that reports SMART info
[19:01] <Iulia> ok.Thanks!!
[19:01] <Goldline> Im talking about this addon heres the official website: http://www.xdccbrowser.com/
[19:02] <erUSUL> Kristiina: maybe is a skype configuration thing? i never used skype does it support pulseaudio natively ?
[19:02] <Goldline> any1 knows if its a trusted website / addon
[19:02] <Kristiina> erUSUL: yeah
[19:02] <Pici> Goldline: Again, this channel is only for Ubuntu support.  Try ##mirc for mIRC support,.
[19:03] <Oewyn> I'm trying to install the gcc-4.2 package on 10.04 does anyone have any ideas on how to safely do this w/out breaking other package dependencies?
[19:03] <blaz_> erUSUL: Kristiina sys sound recording is not working in other software so it doesnt look like skype only issue
[19:04] <erUSUL> Oewyn: looks like compiling from source isd the preferred method ... http://www.trevorpounds.com/blog/?p=111
[19:05] <Goldline> Im asking in #mirc but noone is replying
[19:05] <Kristiina> when i put something in terminal, don't remember what but i got that i don't have all the plugins for sound
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> Goldline:  time to learn some patience  :)
[19:06] <debranjan> Hello goldline
[19:06] <dakota> Hello, I was just wondering if Ubuntu Dapper Drake" will still run some current software or should I upgrade to 10.4 LTS? I am planning on running this system as a headless VNC server for configuration and its main porpose will be to host a BZFS game server.
[19:06] <erUSUL> Kristiina: when you click on the sound icon in the panel and go to sound properties/preferences Input tab. have you tried with different connectors? is it muted?
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> !dapper
[19:06] <Goldline> hi
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> dakota:  thats very old...   I suggest upgradeing.
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> dakota:  a clean install may be a better idea
[19:07] <at05gt> gah how do i turn off pidgins notifications on the screen?
[19:07] <at05gt> i dont need to see messages twice
[19:07] <debranjan> Will you be my friend goldline?
[19:07] <Kristiina> erUSUL: in input there's only one, output 2
[19:07] <dakota> I know it is..I got it like that... 10 bucks...for a P4 2.66Ghz machine with DVD-RW drive
[19:07] <dakota> How can I do a heales install?
[19:08] <ikonia> debranjan: take personal conversation to a private message, this channel is for ubuntu support
[19:08] <dakota> I already have a laptop running 10.4 LTS now..
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> dakota:  Headless install.. Not sure.
[19:08] <Licuadora> Ok. I am back
[19:08] <erUSUL> Kristiina: i have line-in a two microphones ( 1 and 2)
[19:08] <Licuadora> I aked how to install a GPU driver
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> dakota:  remove hd, put in box with a monitor.. :)   or in a usb enclosuer. perhaps.
[19:08] <erUSUL> Kristiina: alsamixer in a terminal shows the mic? and line in?
[19:09] <debranjan> How can i do this ikonia?
[19:09] <coz_> Licuadora,  which video card do you have?
[19:09] <Licuadora> Since i am going to install a program that requires OPENcl i must install the most recent
[19:09] <dakota> Well thats why its headless...I dont have any extra monitors at the moment..
[19:09] <Kristiina> no just capture and master
[19:09] <Licuadora> QuadroFX 580
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> dakota:  theres some way to do an OEM type install. but ive never done it..  and that would take more effort to setup then atatching a monitor
[19:09] <blaz_> Kristiina: what is your machine and linux distro?
[19:09] <Licuadora> coz_: QuadroFX 580
[19:09] <coz_> Licuadora,   ok you should have nvidia_current   under system / administration / hardware drivers
[19:09] <Goldline> Am i the only one whos using mIRC ive always been in the impression that its the best IRC client program for windows and linux, for me it is
[19:09] <erUSUL> Kristiina: have you followed intelhda how to ?
[19:09] <Kristiina> hp mini 110-3030nr ubuntu 10.04. is this what you asked for?:)
[19:09] <erUSUL> !intelhda | Kristiina
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> dakota:  you just need it attatched for 30 min or so untill you get ssh installed.. then you can remove it.
[19:09] <Licuadora> But... is that the MOST current?
[19:09] <coz_> Licuadora,  install that ...reboot... and see if it works well
[19:09] <blaz_> Kristiina: yea:)
[19:10] <coz_> Licuadora,  well there is a 260 driver but mm hold on
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> Goldline:  i never noticed it having a Linux port.. (i wouldent use it if it mIRC did have a linux port)
[19:10] <eva> i dont have any sound i have a acer aspire 5510
[19:10] <Goldline> It can also be run on Linux if you install Wine
[19:11] <dakota> Dr_Willis Should I use the server install CD for 10.4 LTS or should I do a normal install and use Gnome and VNC for configuration?
[19:11] <Goldline> Ubuntu etc
[19:11] <eva> anyone knows what to do
[19:11] <Licuadora> coz_: Well Ubntu not always has the latest in their repositories
[19:11] <coz_> Licuadora,  well in the x-updates ppa  the 260.19.04  nvidia driver is available but I have never used that ppa
[19:11] <at05gt> does anybody know how to turn off pidgin in the notification area?
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> dakota:  depens on what you want to do. You can install a stand alone vncserver if you want . but if you are going to use desktop apps on vnc. may as well install desktop to begin with.
[19:11] <Licuadora> coz_: Like, Blender, they still have 2.49 when the 2.53 version is already out there
[19:12] <coz_> Licuadora,  well I believe the x-update ppa would have most of the recent drivers    and as for blender you can compile that manually if you want or see if there is an ubuntu ppa for blender
[19:12] <Licuadora> x-updates, how can i do that?
[19:12] <Goldline> Are there many differences between the 10.10 beta and the final version i mean theres just 1 month between those 2 releases?
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> Goldline:  theres plenty of native to linux IRC clients. But use what you want.
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> Goldline:  there can be major #s of bug fix's
[19:12] <coz_> Licuadora,    here is the x-update PPA    https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[19:12] <erUSUL> !final | Goldline
[19:12] <dakota> Dr_Willis thats what I was thinking....I like to use a GUI when possible, but I like to get down in the nitty gritty with the terminal aswell...
[19:12] <Licuadora> My point exactly, since not all software is the most recent in Ubuntu, i have to compile this driver... But how!?
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> dakota:  you can isntall the desktopp version and just set GDM to not run.  but its there if you need it.
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> bye all.
[19:13] <xangua> at05gt: i believe pidgin tray icon is disabled by default in ubuntu
[19:13] <erUSUL> Licuadora: do you really need the imporvements of the newer driver?
[19:13] <trojan_spike> bye
[19:13] <Licuadora> Well, i need OpenCl SDK
[19:13] <at05gt> was on by default for me /cry
[19:14] <dakota> Dr_Willis well is gonna be a File/game server
[19:14] <at05gt> i think i turned it off thou
[19:14] <Goldline> ubottu: isnt that the same as you are using the Update Manager in Ubuntu 10.10 Beta?
[19:14] <dakota> Dr_Willis but the game server is all in command line configuration and the file server could be either gui or commandline.
[19:14] <coz_> Licuadora,    http://developer.nvidia.com/object/opencl-download.html
[19:15] <at05gt> yup i fixed it
[19:15] <at05gt> it was a plugin turned on
[19:15] <Licuadora> erUSUL: is there a danger for upgrading the driver?
[19:15] <erUSUL> Licuadora: depends on how you do it. the x-updates ppa is the safext option imho
[19:15] <Kristiina> PERMITION DENIED: /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz
[19:15] <Kristiina> ANYBODY KNOWS WHY?
[19:16] <coz_> Licuadora,  I agree   about the ppa
[19:16] <Licuadora> coz_: I already doenloaded the 190.29 drivers, but i need to installed
[19:16] <erUSUL> Kristiina: use « zless /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz »
[19:16] <coz_> Licuadora,  well  if you downloaded from nvidia you are going to jump through a few hooops to get that installed
[19:16] <coz_> Licuadora,  that is an older driver anyway
[19:16] <Licuadora> Oh no, wait, in the Nvidia x server sttings, my driver version is 195.36.24
[19:17] <Licuadora> so i guess i dont need to upgrade, eh?
[19:17] <eva> anyone have a acer aspire here
[19:17] <coz_> Licuadora,  probably not
[19:17] <coz_> Licuadora,  if you do  I would use the x-update ppa  for safety
[19:17] <trojan_spike> Licuadora, if it isnt broke  ;)
[19:17] <Licuadora> that's  a elief, i hate compiling
[19:17] <Katsumi32> eva,  yes :) many people
[19:18] <Licuadora> ok, thanks anyway
[19:18] <Licuadora> bye
[19:18] <eva> Katsuni32 i have big problem
[19:19] <trojan_spike> eva, whats your problem,, make it for all to see,, and help..
[19:19] <trond-> hi room. Probably the wrong channel but... I have a new dell e4310 and installed Ubuntu 10.04 (64bit), the screen flickers like a mad man! Especially after I upgraded the kernel.
[19:19] <Katsumi32> eva whats the problem?
[19:20] <eva> Katsumi32 no sound dont shut off and cant see my camera
[19:20] <Katsumi32> trond-,  did u install drivers from hardware drivers?
[19:20] <trojan_spike> trond-, might be graphic driver issue?? check ubuntu forum for advice on your graphics card,, alt it could be compiz settings..
[19:20] <Katsumi32> eva first type in termianl alsamixer and unmute everything than check up if sound is working
[19:21] <trond-> Katsumi32, hm, no... just installed from cd and installed ubuntu.
[19:21] <trond-> trojan_spike, compiz is not running
[19:21] <Katsumi32> trond go to system administartion hardware drivers
[19:21] <Katsumi32> install all you see there
[19:21] <trojan_spike> trond-, have you downloaded and installed drivers?
[19:21] <trond-> trojan_spike, it might likely be a graphic driver issue. Let's see now, dmesg to get the different stuff that is on right?
[19:21] <trond-> trojan_spike,  nope
[19:22] <Kristiina> what does this mean? HP laptops with (inverted) mute-LED???
[19:22] <trond-> Katsumi32, "no propritary driver are in use on this system"
[19:22] <blaz_> Kristiina: do you speak spanish?
[19:22] <trojan_spike> get the drivers for it would be the best thing to do.. will be more stable.
[19:22] <afeijo> hi guys
[19:23] <trojan_spike> trond-, System / Admin / Hardware drivers
[19:23] <Kristiina> blaz_: no but i got audio books and planning to:)
[19:23] <CharlieSu> Any syslog or rsyslog people out there that can tell me what the - sign is for on lines like these?     mail.*        -/var/log/mail.log
[19:23] <afeijo> I have an email sent by cron every 5 minutes, with this text: "PHP Warning:  Module 'imap' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning:  Module 'interbase' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning:  Module 'mcrypt' already loaded in Unknown on line 0" HOW to fix it? my mailbox is quite full lol
[19:23] <trond-> trojan_spike, yup, and the window states what I wrote. a list is empty.
[19:24] <eva> Katsumi32 sorry i am new how do i do that i have open a terminal window
[19:24] <trojan_spike> kk,, is it a laptop or notebook??
[19:24] <blaz_> Kristiina: found some guide how to upgrade to alsa 1.0.23 in Lucid: http://www.wereveryware.com/2010/08/actualizar-alsa-1023-en-ubuntu-1004.html
[19:25] <hayward2010> Can anyone tell me why I keep getting this message when I try to update the package installer..
[19:25] <Katsumi32> eva yes open terminal window type elsamixer you will see some things there is you see MM mean muted 00 mean unmuted u have to unmute speakers
[19:25] <hayward2010> Oh heck.. It's gone..
[19:25] <blaz_> Kristiina: the guide says to compile from source but some guy posted a comment how to install precompiled packages, it only takes 2 commands
[19:25] <trond-> trojan_spike, laptop dell e4310. I found a posting on it on the forum, it's a well known "bug", but I can't seem to find any good solutions. I've installed the dell/intel specific stuff.
[19:25] <hayward2010> Any way I can send a screenshot through irc?
[19:25] <blaz_> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo
[19:26] <xangua> !image | hayward2010
[19:26] <blaz_> Kristiina: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo
[19:26] <trojan_spike> trond-, whats the link ?
[19:26] <xangua> imagebin*
[19:26] <blaz_> Kristiina: followed by apt-get -y install install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r)
[19:26] <blaz_> Kristiina: dare to try ?
[19:26] <hayward2010> !image
[19:26] <xangua> !imagebin > hayward2010
[19:26] <eva> Katsumi32 dont find anything
[19:26] <trond-> trojan_spike, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9848909 I've also tried to run the 21-kernel, which I think the machine didn't flicker under, but now I am not sure.
[19:27] <hayward2010> I don't see a private message...
[19:27] <Kristiina> blaz_: i don't know, maybe i should go the long way like on this spanish page? :) what you think?
[19:27] <trond-> trojan_spike, as this is a new system, I can just reinstall ubuntu
[19:27] <blaz_> Kristiina: oops sorry it is actually one long line: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r)
[19:27] <blaz_> Kristiina: may be a good way to iprove spanish but installing from PPA sound safer
[19:28] <pfifo> hi
[19:28] <trojan_spike> u can package manager the images // instead of re-installing
[19:28] <Kristiina> blaz_: i had translated in google:) so it's safer the one command or the website?
[19:28] <Kristiina> Blaz_: what's PPA?
[19:29] <Kristiina> blaz_: where you're from?
[19:29] <trond-> trojan_spike, how do I do that...
[19:29] <blaz_> Kristiina: one command is safer. PPA is an online repository for Ubuntu packages
[19:29] <trojan_spike> open package manager <
[19:30] <blaz_> Kristiina: if PPA does not work it would be easier to go back to the old packages
[19:30] <hayward2010> whenever I reload the package manager list, I get lots of HIT HIT and FAiled Failed.. messages...
[19:30] <hayward2010> using Ubuntu 10
[19:30] <trond-> trojan_spike, package manager open
[19:30] <trojan_spike> search : kernel-image-2 // or linux-image-2
[19:31] <Katsumi32> eva if youre new to ubuntu i would advice you to use google.com and http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page before you start installing things better to know a bit than mess up thing and have to reinstall ubuntu or something. check up alsa web there is a lot of info about driver supported cards etc how to install drivers
[19:31] <ThinWhiteDuke> my ubuntu one software center installation froze. can i force delete/cancel it?
[19:32] <trond-> trojan_spike, 2.6.35-21 is installed
[19:32] <eva> katsuni32 thanks i will look it up
[19:32] <Kristiina> blaz_: ok:) i gotta reboot first:) hope to see you soon....
[19:32] <trojan_spike> trond-, then install the 1 you want to use.. note,, dont un-install the 1 you dont want just yet.. to make sure you dont get left with no machine..
[19:32] <trojan_spike> you can then pick the kernel at start-up
[19:33] <soroush> Dosn't work Ubuntu slower when It is installed on a windows Partition?
[19:33] <trond-> trojan_spike, ok. so trying 32.21 and 32.22
[19:33] <erUSUL> soroush: i expect so yes
[19:33] <trojan_spike> kk,, i forget which is STABLE ?? ODD or EVEN << soneone??
[19:33] <sjefen6> Any tips on getting hdmi audio to work on an asus eb1012p (ubuntu 10.04)?
[19:34] <hayward2010> Hi again, ok, so this is the issues I was talking about http://imagebin.org/114236
[19:34] <pfifo> how do I computer?
[19:34] <erUSUL> pfifo: ?
[19:35] <trond-> trojan_spike, I think it is 21 that is unstable, and 22 that is stable.
[19:35] <trojan_spike> kk
[19:35] <DukeJer>  /join #ubuntu-us-mi
[19:35] <trond-> trojan_spike, I then change in /etc/default/grub
[19:35] <trojan_spike> hayward2010, was that just an update?
[19:35] <soroush> can ubuntu connect to Internet through lan when it is installed from the CD. my computer(DELL Inspiron1564) I couldn't do so. and I can't find a driver for my wireless(mini-card 1397)
[19:35] <trojan_spike> trond-, ( sudo update-grub
[19:35] <Goldline> Wired is faster
[19:36] <pfifo> my initramfs keeps loading nouveau, but I want to use the restricted driver in my livecd. Is that possible?
[19:36] <Goldline> and safer
[19:36] <hayward2010> yes, just an update.. Why did I just get a trojan spike message?
[19:36] <Goldline> cannot be hacked into by laptop thiefs
[19:37] <Katsumi32> soroush, type lspci in terminal and paste it http://paste.ubuntu.com than show the link
[19:37] <trojan_spike> whats the full URI ?? all the same on them?
[19:37] <trond-> trojan_spike, ok, just sudo update-grub. When I boot I don't get a menu, what do I do to make is show... Sorry for such a newbie question, but I really haven't experienced to often.
[19:38] <trojan_spike> its possible a server is down.. so just a waiting same ;)
[19:38] <trojan_spike> game
[19:38] <Katsumi32> trond what are you trying to do ?
[19:38] <hayward2010> it's been doing that since yesterday...
[19:39] <soroush> Katsumi32: thanks. I'll do so as I find another laptop with which I would be able to connect. I've been searching google and havn't got enough information yet
[19:39] <trojan_spike> trond-, when u sudo update-grub it will show you the list that will be avail on boot.. make sure ur newly install kernel is there
[19:40] <Katsumi32> soroush, type in terminal lspci than paste it on http://paste.ubuntu.com and show me the link so i can help you get your wifi working
[19:40] <trond-> katsumi, i have to use an older kernel so that I don't have this annoying flickering. Then I want to use that kernel. Read that 32.21/32.22 should work :)
[19:40] <ThinWhiteDuke> how can i install chromium browser? everytime i try it says i need dependencies then i try to get the dependencies and it need smore dependencies
[19:40] <ThinWhiteDuke> it's never ending
[19:40] <ThinWhiteDuke> and -f didn't work
[19:41] <SamPeterson2010> Hey, does anyone know a way to make the audio output of espeak go into audio input?
[19:41] <Katsumi32> trond-, if you have ubuntu 10.04 you may try 2.6.35 and if you have any problems with the screen etc try to check hardware drivers activate drivers you got there
[19:41] <j2quinn> why doesnt ubuntu update there repository for texlive?
[19:42] <trojan_spike> hayward2010, search the forum ,, using the URI as a point to start..
[19:42] <trond-> Katsumi32, tried that. no drivers to activate really.
[19:42] <hayward2010> Here's a screenshot of my software sources, can you tell me if they are correct ? http://imagebin.org/114237
[19:42] <stuckey> hi all
[19:42] <ThinWhiteDuke> E: chromium-browser-inspector: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[19:42] <ThinWhiteDuke> what does that mean
[19:43] <stuckey> I'm trying to record video with a web cam I just got. Someone said use cheese, so I'm trying it, but it doesn't record sound.
[19:43] <ThinWhiteDuke> maybe you need to change the audio source? sometimes those programs try to read the mic
[19:43] <Katsumi32> trond what kernel do you have at the moment ? u can check it up by typing in terminal uname -a also do you know what graphic card do you have ?
[19:44] <trond-> trojan_spike, ok. update-grub and both kernels that I installed are there
[19:44] <wal3> hello. i am doing "rdiff-backup /home/rick/videos /internbackuphdd/videos". it replies "Fatal Error: Restore target /internbackuphdd/videos already exists, specify --force to overwrite.". Why? it used to work.
[19:45] <trond-> Katsumi32, 35-21
[19:45] <trojan_spike> trond-, you just have to reboot and pick the kernel you want to use..
[19:45] <Katsumi32> trond do you mean 2.6.35-21 ?
[19:45] <pfifo> how do I turn number lock on?
[19:45] <trond-> Katsumi32, yes. and 10.04 ubuntu
[19:45] <Katsumi32> trond what about graphic card?
[19:46] <tasslehoff> any better tools than photorec to recover deleted avi files from a fat32-partition
[19:46] <Goldline> but hey when i use the XDCC Browser its connecting to a server/network named: openjoke.org thats raising questions lol
[19:46] <trojan_spike> pfifo, right ,, number key pad<< top (num-lock)
[19:46] <Goldline> o wrong channel :P
[19:46] <pfifo> trojan_spike, lol
[19:46] <hayward2010> i gave up windows7 for this :(
[19:46] <pfifo> how do I turn number lock on at boot with a command?
[19:47] <trojan_spike> hayward2010, ive fully given up win7 now.. virtualbox is great for windows O.S.. seemless is amazing
[19:47] <Katsumi32> trond if you want to downgrade install (linux headers and linux image) any kernel ver you want to use synaptic to do that. after u got headers and image installed open terminal and type sudo update-grub2 than reboot
[19:47] <pfifo> for the 11 years ive been using linux no one has ever been able to answer that question
[19:48] <trond-> Katsumi32, looks like it could be the i915
[19:48] <Goldline> Windows Vista its the best there is, Windows 7 is ready for the trashcan
[19:48] <trojan_spike> lol at Goldline
[19:48] <ZekeS> trojan_spike: I don't think that was a happy "I gave up win7" :(
[19:48] <ZekeS> I personally dual boot because ~games~
[19:48] <hayward2010> no.. i just can't understand why it's not updating anymore.. gah!
[19:49] <Grappleseed> Hey guys, I've got 1.5 MB/s download speed to use up here cause I'm at the library, do any of you have any torrents you can recommend?
[19:49] <pfifo> windows 7 is really old, upgrade to 95 or 98
[19:49] <hayward2010> i don't want to go back to win7 , if im honest..
[19:49] <Goldline> Games are best played on windows, and for servers linux is the way to go
[19:49] <ZekeS> Grappleseed: err, I dont think the library would be appreciative
[19:49] <trojan_spike> good point Goldline
[19:49] <sam_sam> HOW DO I CLOSE TRAFFIC through port no. xxxx and service which is using that port ( i get both of them on scanning my machine) ?a few suspecious service names ( bigbrother,unknown) and username "nobody" running few processes(in system monitor)
[19:49] <Grappleseed> ZekeS: what you talking about, they'd love that
[19:49] <Grappleseed> ZekeS: it's my lap top anyway.
[19:50] <erUSUL> pfifo: http://linux.die.net/man/1/setleds
[19:50] <Kristiina> erUSUL: i've installed that file but now i have no audio devices. can i add then somehow?
[19:51] <trojan_spike> Goldline, v-box is suppose to be supporting d-x now.. tried steam on it , with game.. no joy tho
[19:51] <erUSUL> Kristiina: that's really weird. try « sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel »
[19:51] <Goldline> trojan_spike oh i dunno about that but i copied the Rainbow Six 3 files to my VM and its working fine
[19:51] <pfifo> +1000 internets to erUSUL
[19:52] <erUSUL> Kristiina: are you sure you only installed that file?
[19:52] <trojan_spike> Grappleseed, :: try isohunt > com
[19:52] <sam_sam> how do i stop services?(not processes) ? or how can i close/filter ports?
[19:52] <erUSUL> pfifo: i will take that in Euro thanks ;P
[19:52] <trond-> Katsumi32, thanks. I'll try that. thanks for reminding me about the headers.
[19:52] <ZekeS> sam_sam: use the service command
[19:52] <ZekeS> sudo service --status-all to get a list
[19:52] <Kristiina> erUSUL: yeah, copeis and pasted
[19:52] <pfifo> (actual value 1/100 of 1 cent)
[19:53] <Grappleseed> trojan_spike: thanks, but I was looking for the sort of interesting things you guys would recommend, not what they'd recommend there
[19:53] <Goldline> Ur saying that srcds does not run without graphics drivers installed on Vm such as nvidia drivers or ati ?
[19:53] <ZekeS> Hmr
[19:53] <Kristiina> erUSUL: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel -> nothing happens
[19:53] <erUSUL> Kristiina: what are you refering to? installing linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic or the intelhda how to?
[19:53] <erUSUL> Kristiina: chack again for sound devices
[19:53] <erUSUL> Kristiina: check again for sound devices
[19:53] <trojan_spike> depends on what you into..
[19:53] <goddard> how resource intensive is samba?
[19:53] <Kristiina> linux backports
[19:53] <trond-> trojan_spike, Katsumi32 thanks for the help so far. I'll be back in a bit.
[19:53] <trojan_spike> u could look for 'crossloop'
[19:53] <ZekeS> Stupid compiz question - is there a way to make the desktop wall behave closer to i.e. android, in that the wallpaper and fixed elements remain stationary while only the windows slide around?
[19:54] <ZekeS> goddard: not very
[19:54] <Katsumi32> trond- im waiting
[19:54] <Kristiina> erUSUL: how to check for devices?
[19:54] <erUSUL> Kristiina: one way is running "alsamixer"
[19:56] <sam_sam> ZekeS:when i type "service <servicename>" it says unrecognised service
[19:56] <younder> Hello I accidentally swapped two arguments when doing a dump of my home directory. Thus destroying my home directory partion. Well I downloaded the entire previous backup from the external disk. Logged in as root (sudo is rubbish here. The point being that /root is not under /home) Then I restored. FU at 0:20, Fixed at 5:30..
[19:56] <blaz_> Kristiina: can you also try  'cat /proc/asound/version'? does it say 1.0.23 now?
[19:56] <trojan_spike> i cant even read it..
[19:56] <younder> I have a ton of extention packages and simply reinstalling wouldn't work so hot..
[19:56] <sebsebseb> Hi
[19:56] <younder> Question: This would not work for my system directory. Is there a way to restore the / directory partion?
[19:57] <nouitfvf> AMontsouris-152-1-13-240.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr - cool hostname
[19:57] <erUSUL> Kristiina: so; no sound devices still?
[19:57] <ZekeS> If service %name% stop doesnt work, someone else'll have to help :|
[19:57] <Kristiina> erUSUL: sorry sorry sorry. i think it didn't load when i was checking. it works. thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:57] <younder> hi seb, external backup is not on
[19:58] <erUSUL> Kristiina: no problem ;)
[19:58] <sebsebseb> younder: uhmm?
[19:58] <Kristiina> blaz_:; thank you too:)
[19:58] <Kristiina> you're the best guys!
[19:58] <blaz_> Kristiina: does your exitement mean you can record sound now ;)?
[19:58] <erUSUL> not quite ^.^
[19:59] <younder> Seb: I have A personal drive 360 Gb. And that is what I want to back up on.
[19:59] <sebsebseb> younder: why targetting me with whatever that is?  and you didn't say the exact issue anyway
[19:59] <younder> more to the boint I wnat to restore / from it..
[20:00] <Kristiina> yeah!!! there're some cracks in the play  back so i will run that page in spanish tomorrow. it's nearly 3am, gotta go to bed:)
[20:00] <nouitfvf> USE WINDOWS!! WAHAHAHA
[20:00] <erUSUL> Kristiina: español ?
[20:00] <nouitfvf> WINDOWS - COOL OS
[20:00] <nouitfvf> lol
[20:00] <b0ot> Can I use cron to have a few simple bash scripts start as root when my computer boots?
[20:00] <Katsumi32> nouitfvf, stop trolling
[20:00] <sebsebseb> !troll | nouitfvf
[20:00] <llutz> b0ot: you can use cron or just /etc/rc.local
[20:01] <serapophis> b0ot: better use upstart
[20:01] <erUSUL> b0ot: for that is better /etc/rc.local imho
[20:01] <Kristiina> Ukrainian in Malaysia
[20:01] <younder> seb: I did syay the EXACT issue. and I am not targeting you. Though your help would be invaluable.
[20:01] <b0ot> how would i use /ec/rc.local and would that allow my scripts to run as root?
[20:01] <Kristiina> good night!!!
[20:02] <erUSUL> Kristiina: bye; enjoy the trip.
[20:02] <llutz> b0ot: add you scripts to /etc/rc.local  before "exit 0"
[20:02] <sebsebseb> younder: back up what exactly?
[20:02] <pekayoba> how would I patch KDE 2 under Ubuntu?
[20:02] <erUSUL> b0ot: jsut add the commands to the file before the "exit 0" line
[20:02] <sebsebseb> pekayoba: you are joking right?
[20:02] <nouitfvf> pekayoba ||:> hi, bro
[20:02] <younder> seb: 360 Gb of my two main drives
[20:02] <sebsebseb> pekayoba: KDE 2 is rather old, who uses that still?
[20:02] <younder> I have 5 partions
[20:02] <sam_sam> which  firewall is most widely used on ubuntu (9.04 :$)? is it good ?
[20:03] <b0ot> llutz, erUSUL how would i get the scripts to run as root with this method?
[20:03] <sebsebseb> !firewall | sam_sam
[20:03] <blaz_> erUSUL: so you're not quite a guy or not quite great?
[20:03] <trond-> trojan_spike, Katsumi32 well, I don't get the grub menu in 10.04. Is there any key combo that I need to click on the way in?
[20:03] <younder> the / bit is the difficult one to restore. (I use dump)
[20:03] <llutz> b0ot: they will be run as root
[20:03] <b0ot> ok
[20:03] <erUSUL> blaz_: they will be run with root privs
[20:03] <sebsebseb> younder: uhmm not sure what your doing exactly, but really  / doesn't need to be backed up useauly
[20:03] <sebsebseb> younder: if you got a seperate /home  I mean
[20:03] <erUSUL> blaz_: not quite great ;)
[20:04] <younder> seb: I know but I have aton of addon packages
[20:04] <sebsebseb> younder: home is your data, but also program user data
[20:04] <sebsebseb> !home | younder
[20:04] <b0ot> so i just add /path/to/script/script1.sh <new line> /path/to/script/script2.sh etc?
[20:04] <b0ot> llutz,
[20:04] <llutz> b0ot: exactly
[20:04] <b0ot> ok
[20:04] <younder> It would take me MONTHS to backup from CD
[20:05] <younder> Seb: my home directory is in a separate parton and acked up..
[20:05] <Katsumi32> trond you dont need any grub menu you have to update grub after you installed headers and image and than reboot boot again and when grub window will pop up you will see there your new kernel installed and the old one too also if you have installed som burg you should type in terminal also sudo update-burg
[20:05] <younder> backed
[20:06] <sebsebseb> younder: just back up data to an external hard drive, if you got one or something?
[20:06] <brummbaer>  i'm working on a bash script to mount an NFS drive if i'm connected to my home network, right now i'm just checking arp tables for router MAC, and loading the script into /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/; it's functional, but it feels kludgy. any more clever ideas?
[20:06] <younder> seb: amnaged that.
[20:06] <sebsebseb> !backup | younder
[20:06] <younder> managed
[20:06] <nouitfvf> 189-10-127-71.pvoce702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br - cool hostname
[20:06] <llutz> brummbaer: have a look at "guessnet"
[20:06] <brummbaer> will do, thx for the tip llutz
[20:07] <pfifo> hello everybody
[20:08] <pfifo> Is there a linux app that dose the same function of flash media encoder?
[20:08] <trond-> Katsumi32, right, well, did that and it ends up using 2.6.32-24 as of now. I got an error message when it tried to use the 35-21-kernel. I'll see if I can fetch it.
[20:08] <younder> I am realy quite skilled at unix (used it since 1986), but I have still to see a satisfactory way to back up / on a single system. I still end up with a complete reinstall
[20:08] <pfifo> younder, dd works great
[20:09] <llutz> younder: rsync
[20:09] <younder> llutz, single
[20:09] <jrib> younder: exactly, use something that uses rsync (like rsnapshot!)
[20:09] <llutz> younder: rsync to different partition on same system
[20:09] <pfifo> younder, something along these lines `dd if=/dev/sda1 | gzip > backup.img`
[20:09] <nouitfvf> bdv75-6-82-230-176-34.fbx.proxad.net - cool host
[20:10] <vincent_> hi all, dpkg --configure -a fails because update-iniramfs tries to install a kernel I have now removed , I get following trace : http://pastebin.org/875280
[20:10] <jrib> pfifo: isn't there some issue if he's using the disc?
[20:10] <detrix> Why is the 64bit version of ubuntu not recommended for daily desktop usage???
[20:10] <vincent_> how can I convince update-initramfs that this kernel is no longer installed ?
[20:10] <jrib> detrix: because that message is silly
[20:10] <llutz> detrix: no one knows, ignore it
[20:10] <detrix> lol
[20:10] <bobstro> younder:  i've migrated / to another drive with minimal problems.
[20:11] <younder> pfifo, It is not backing it up with is the problem it is restoring it. While it is in use..
[20:11] <trojan_spike> detrix, if u have below 4GB ram, use 62bit.. above , use 64 bit.
[20:11] <detrix> just checkin
[20:11] <bobstro> younder:  using tar and updating grub (well, lilo at the time)
[20:11] <pfifo> jrib, yes, youll need todo that from a livecd, restoring with both methods will require a livecd as well (>implying the system works in the first place when you need to restore)
[20:11] <trojan_spike> 32bit..
[20:11] <jrib> pfifo: partimage is a better choice then imho
[20:11] <rapage> hello I'm planning install ubuntu /home on a ext3 partition what is the disanvantage of not using ext4 for it?
[20:11] <detrix> Thanx
[20:12] <b0ot> llutz, it doesn't seem to work
[20:12] <pfifo> younder, jrib, I use that method to keep a snapshot of windows, works like a charm
[20:12] <jrib> pfifo: partimage is similar but it will be smarter about unused space
[20:12] <bobstro> younder:  you mean zero downtime?
[20:12] <sebsebseb> rapage: Ext4 is good to use with Ubuntu since 9.10 and so should go with that really if on 9.10 or later
[20:12] <llutz> b0ot: given correct pathes? scripts are working from commandline?
[20:13] <rapage> how to convert to ext4 without loosing data? does anyone know
[20:13] <b0ot> llutz, yeah
[20:13] <wyverex> Question: I have LDAP working on 10.4, but when users login they have to keep clicking on other, anyway to make that the default?
[20:13] <sebsebseb> rapage: oh
[20:13] <sebsebseb> rapage: right ok uhmm
[20:13] <pfifo> jrib, my boot partition are always 4gb so gzip is plenty for my needs. if I ever make a 16gb partition ill look into it
[20:13] <sebsebseb> rapage: not much point bothering to convert to Ext4 from Ext3 really
[20:13] <llutz> b0ot: sure you added your scripts before "exit 0" line?
[20:14] <b0ot> yeah
[20:14] <llutz> b0ot: what shall the scripts do?
[20:14] <b0ot> llutz, they start cameras on my network, and then they stream them
[20:15] <maedox> b0ot, didn't I walk you through this already? :P
[20:15] <llutz> b0ot: use full pathes inside your scripts, rclocal is run with limited environment
[20:16] <b0ot> maedox, you did, i tried it with crontab I couldn't get it to work
[20:16] <b0ot> llutz, i have been using full paths
[20:16] <RockerBoy402> has anyone here used the Asus P7P55D-E Deluxe mobo before?  I'm having issues getting lm-sensors to work.
[20:17] <maedox> b0ot, hmm, alright, did you use any environment variables that are not set unless you log on as you?
[20:17] <b0ot> maedox, there is only one user (me)
[20:18] <maedox> if you add a >/var/log/script-name.log 2>&1 to the end of the commandline in cron you will get a log with any errors. Also look in /var/log/messages
[20:18] <maedox> b0ot, there is root, which does not necessarily have the same env vars that you do.
[20:18] <trond-> hi Katsumi32 well, I am getting an could not load modules - no such file or directory on the way in. It is still using 2.6.35-21 and not 2.6.32-21 / 2.6.32-22 that I would like it to. I'm not getting a menu or any option on the way in.
[20:19] <Guest39855> Hello
[20:19] <trojan_spike> trond-, u on grub legacy?
[20:19] <ZekeS> Guest39855: hi
[20:19] <Guest39855> Is this a place I can get some help with ufw?
[20:20] <wyverex> Question: I have LDAP working on 10.4, but when users login they have to keep clicking on other, anyway to make that the default?
[20:20] <trond-> trojan_spike, ouh, what grub2 installed clean 10.04 on a clean system
[20:20] <trojan_spike> trond-, install grub2.. then reboot.. you'll deffo get the choices.. aslong as linux images are installed
[20:20] <trojan_spike> trond-, :: sudo apt-get install grub2
[20:20] <b0ot> maedox, the scripts seem to work if i just copy/paste what i have into terminal
[20:20] <b0ot> i mean the /path/to/script/script.sh
[20:21] <trond-> trojan_spike, ok. trying that
[20:21] <b0ot> maedox, what is weird is that at least one of them worked, but it doesnt look like the other 4 did maedox
[20:21] <maedox> b0ot, ok, weird.
[20:21] <trojan_spike> or do it from package manager..
[20:21] <bihari> i have a question is parallism allow in a singal processor ?
[20:22] <maedox> b0ot, if you do su and then run them, do they work?
[20:22] <trond-> trojan_spike, ok, trying that... brb. (used to apt-get, no problem there. I've been using ubuntu since.hm. way back)
[20:24] <Dulak> bihari: not usually no, procedural only afaik
[20:24] <b0ot> maedox, good call vlc won't run as root
[20:24] <iplaythisgame2> got a problem.  Had my server instalation die.  Reinstalled and remounted a few data drives and a folder on one drive is corrupt.  Seems only that one folder.  I cant ls rm it or anything in it.  Autocomplete wont even work on it.  I can sacrifice the data in that one folder.  So, how do I get rid of it?
[20:24] <jrib> iplaythisgame2: did you fsck?
[20:24] <b0ot> maedox, ok new problem... :) I need one script to run as root (which I have working) and the 4 other scripts to run as normal @ restart
[20:25] <bihari> Dulak,  can you explain it
[20:25] <Dulak> iplaythisgame2: unmount it, run fsck on it and let it fix whatever is messed up
[20:25] <sam_sam> using ufw, i have denied incoming traffic on a port , still see it as open port .. how ?
[20:25] <maedox> b0ot, Alright, then you just change root to your username in /etc/crontab for those scripts.
[20:25] <iplaythisgame2> jrib; I though it ran on that drive on the first boot      thanks I'll try it.
[20:25] <maedox> sam_sam, how do you see it as open?
[20:25] <b0ot> maedox, thanks!
[20:26] <sam_sam> i nmapd myself
[20:26] <maedox> sam_sam, no wonder then. :)
[20:26] <bihari> Dulak,  can you explain it ? why it is not possible ?
[20:26] <Dulak> bihari: to run something parallel implies multiple processors, which as far as I know doesn't exist in a signal processor, so they handle things in order, not in parallel
[20:26] <maedox> sam_sam, try nmap from another computer if possible
[20:26] <Katsumi32> trond er du norsk ?
[20:27] <trond-> trojan_spike, nah, no such luck. and I am getting the could not load ... /
[20:27] <trond-> Katsumi32, jepp
[20:27] <maedox> what does the ufw rule say and what are you trying to do?
[20:27] <sam_sam> maedox:is it the problem? i mean it treats it as "local" traffic ?
[20:27] <maedox> Jeg òg :P
[20:27] <trojan_spike> are any kernels showing?
[20:27] <maedox> sam_sam, yes, probably.
[20:27] <trond-> trojan_spike, nope, no choices what so ever.
[20:27] <yoko_> paralleism also implies to have an OS and the App to be written for Parallel operations
[20:28] <trojan_spike> back to package manager and reinstall the kernel..
[20:28] <trond-> trojan_spike, did that too
[20:28] <peca> Hi all :) Does anyone know Blender here?
[20:28] <nixbox> hi all, i have compiled a vanilla kernel for ubuntu, using non-debian (normal) method, i used checkinstall to create kernel-modules deb package, how can i create a package for header files for the new kernel?
[20:28] <jrib> peca: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[20:28] <maedox> trond-, apt-get purge and then install too?
[20:28] <trojan_spike> :( if i was there .. lol
[20:28] <jrib> !kernel > nixbox
[20:28] <trond-> maedox, package manager, didn't try the purge.
[20:28] <peca> join #blenderchat
[20:28] <jrib> nixbox: that probably doesn't answer your question, but tells you the recommended procedure
[20:29] <trond-> maedox, maybe I should do that. remove all kernels that I don't want to use, then be left with the ones I want to use.
[20:29] <aldin> hi, how to restart ubuntu sound, something like /etc/init.d/vbox restart
[20:29] <Katsumi32> trond see my private message
[20:29] <maedox> trond-, yes, just make sure it can boot the kernel you have left. :)
[20:30] <trojan_spike> thats dodgey
[20:30] <nixbox> jrib: i know the recommended procedure, but i just wanted to know if there is an easy way to create a header files package using normal compilation procedures which are not specific to ubuntu/debian
[20:30] <cardamon> Anyone use Evolution?
[20:30] <cardamon> Trying to set up a rule to sort mail based on which account it's pulled from, without using recipients because that won't get everything.
[20:30] <sam_sam> maedox: well this time i scanned  my external ip , which i think should make the ufw treat nmap as external connection.. still shows it as open :$
[20:30] <trojan_spike> cardamon, use thunderbird ..
[20:30] <trond-> maedox, hehe, probably a good idea
[20:30] <DBAN> how can I install live cd if there is no install option is it possible?
[20:30] <jrib> nixbox: read how the official ones are made I guess.  Personally, I would just use the method ubottu gives
[20:30] <cardamon> trojan_spike: No.  Be ignored.
[20:31] <trojan_spike> huh?
[20:31] <sparky57> evening
[20:31] <fixxxermet> What is the easiest way to log / graph CPU / RAM / Load / HDD / etc to a local file / db to show on a web page?
[20:32] <maedox> fixxxermet, munin I guess
[20:32] <fixxxermet> good call mate
[20:32] <fixxxermet> Forgot about munin.
[20:32] <sam_sam> lol "be ignored " :D
[20:32] <cardamon> Anyone have any clues?
[20:32] <Quantum_Ion> What is the best way to back up a linux file system ?
[20:32] <llutz> Quantum_Ion: rsync
[20:32] <jrib> !backup | Quantum_Ion
[20:32] <maedox> !backup | Quantum_Ion
[20:33] <jrib> !helpme | cardamon
[20:33] <sam_sam> maedox: well this time i scanned  my external ip , which i think should make the ufw treat nmap as external connection.. still shows it as open :$
[20:33] <sparky57> Anyone here that is running 10.4 and plays Runes of Magic
[20:33] <maedox> sam_sam, I scanned your IP. The one in your hostname, and it shows only 80/tcp, and it says closed.
[20:34] <mas__> algun chat de ubuntu en español??
[20:34] <sam_sam> maedox: lol good solution .. thnx
[20:34] <Pici> !es | mas__
[20:34] <cardamon> I get a lot of mass emails from my university, and since they occasionally include things like weather warnings, I still need to get them.  So, using evolution, I want them sorted out of my INBOX into their own distinct folder, and not by recipient.  Does anyone who uses evolution know how to do that?
[20:35] <maedox> sam_sam, np ;-)
[20:35] <b0ot> maedox, I think i may have messed up the crontab file because now it's not even doing the old one that use to work
[20:36] <maedox> b0ot, paste it in a pm
[20:36] <administrator> hi\
[20:37] <Guest23459> 有 中国人 吗
[20:37] <Pici> !zh | Guest23459
[20:37] <hsa2> why ubuntu uses pulse audio as default?
[20:38] <suroegin> hello! i'm a new user of Ubuntu. Why Rhytmbox play music only 1-2 sec and stop? How to solve this problem?
[20:39] <suroegin> i have Ubuntu 10.10 beta
[20:39] <Pici> suroegin : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Maverick/10.10 support/discussion.
[20:39] <applejacks> stop using the beta
[20:39] <hsa2> LOL
[20:39] <aldin> "hi, how to restart ubuntu sound, something like /etc/init.d/vbox restart", think i got it for my problem https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[20:39] <applejacks> if you are a new user, you should be using a full release
[20:39] <cardamon> Ugh, wall of server spam.  I'm going to try a different channel.
[20:39] <GrizzLyCRO1> hello everyone :)
[20:39] <GrizzLyCRO1> i cant run wubi.exe under win7
[20:40] <GrizzLyCRO1> i can run it, but it closes without any error or some info that it even was run
[20:40] <GTroy> anybody had experience with getting an external monitor running when the laptop screen is toast?
[20:40] <RockerBoy402> Did anyone else have problems with 10.04? I kept losing use of my PS2 Keyboard/Mouse and was having to reset the unit.
[20:40] <GrizzLyCRO1> and i dont have any dvd-cd reader at hand
[20:40] <GrizzLyCRO1> and also dont have usb drive big enough
[20:41] <suroegin> applejack, on site Ubuntu.com i see only beta 10.10 and i downloaded it
[20:41] <GrizzLyCRO1> GTroy: yes, i did
[20:41] <GTroy> how in the world do you get it running?
[20:41] <GTroy> I'm blind
[20:41] <GTroy> can't edit xorg, or much else
[20:41] <GrizzLyCRO1> well, i got same output on both screen
[20:42] <GrizzLyCRO1> but you should have display controls on your laptop
[20:42] <applejacks> suroegin: click on 'desktop at the top of the webpage' that will take you to a download page, get 10.04
[20:42] <ncfi1013_> hi
[20:42] <geoffmcc> Gtroy: can us ssh into it and make changes
[20:42] <GrizzLyCRO1> probably numbers with function key
[20:42] <GTroy> no ssh server on this laptop
[20:42] <ThinWhiteDuke> this chromium browser is awesome
[20:42] <ThinWhiteDuke> it fixed my youtube woes
[20:42] <trojan_spike> GrizzLyCRO1, wubi error??
[20:42] <GrizzLyCRO1> trojan_spike: yes
[20:42] <GrizzLyCRO1> i ant run it
[20:43] <trojan_spike> get a new one
[20:43] <GrizzLyCRO1> under 9.10, 10.4.10.10 cd
[20:43] <GTroy> geoffmcc, I've got no screen showing up externally
[20:43] <GrizzLyCRO1> also tried to dl only wubi.exe
[20:43] <_chun> Is there any way to change the color settings (hue etc) for my webcam?
[20:43] <GrizzLyCRO1> and it wont run too
[20:43] <RockerBoy402> suroegin: be cautious if using PS2 mouse and/or keyboard.  Myself, along with some others I found on the web, had trouble with the keyboard/mouse becoming unoperative using 10.04.  Was quite annoying.  I went with 9.10
[20:43] <GTroy> which should be there
[20:43] <frobe> thinkwhiteduke: is what is the chromium browser is it the google one?
[20:43] <GrizzLyCRO1> and i also tried mint4win, same thing happens
[20:44] <ncfi1013_> anybody know of an online music player that i can store my music files on that i can then access from my cell phone?
[20:44] <GrizzLyCRO1> i read somewhere that partitioning in win can do that wubi errors
[20:44] <The_Paco> hi, I'm trying to search a large text file to isolate and redirect all the URLs to another file. I'm thinking 'grep' would do that, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to get it to choose all the text after the expression I'm searching for ("http" in this case).
[20:44] <GrizzLyCRO1> and i just ade one ntfs partition for wubi before trying to install
[20:44] <The_Paco> Am I on the right track?
[20:44] <RockerBoy402> frobe: Chromium = Google Chrome. Though I believe you have to compile it yourself unless they now have a linux installer.
[20:44] <trojan_spike> wubi works inside a windows folder,, not a partition.
[20:44] <geoffmcc> GTroy: the only thing i would posibly think to do is connect monitor and crash xserv and see if it will show term on mon
[20:44] <trond-> The_Paco, cat file | grep http
[20:44] <frobe> oh ok just curious
[20:44] <GrizzLyCRO1> i know that
[20:44] <cardamon> I get a lot of mass emails from my university, and since they occasionally include things like weather warnings, I still need to get them.  So, using evolution, I want them sorted out of my INBOX into their own distinct folder, and not by recipient.  Does anyone who uses ~~Evolution~~ know sort them by account instead of recipient?
[20:45] <llutz> The_Paco: grep http file
[20:45] <nobarking> is Flash 64bit going to be included in the next release?
[20:45] <GrizzLyCRO1> it can be installed in root of ntfs partition too
[20:45] <GTroy> geoffmcc, I know they removed ctrl+alt+backspace
[20:45] <trojan_spike> mmm might it have been the 64bit?? and u need the 32bit?
[20:45] <GrizzLyCRO1> but i cant even run wubi.exe
[20:45] <sebsebseb> nobarking: probably not in the default install, but could install from repo
[20:45] <GrizzLyCRO1> no, 64 bitwin and 64 bit ubuntu
[20:45] <The_Paco> yeah, but it just highlights HTTP. I was wanting it to highlight the whole url so that I can pipe it's output to another file
[20:45] <geoffmcc> GTroy: when u restart does it show on monitor till x stars?
[20:45] <geoffmcc> starts?
[20:45] <The_Paco> currently I'll just get a file with a couple hundred repeats of "http"
[20:46] <llutz> The_Paco: use awk
[20:46] <GTroy> geoffmcc: I get no signal
[20:46] <The_Paco> awk, eh? Thanks llutz, reading up on it
[20:46] <geoffmcc> GTroy: sorry i am out of ideas
[20:46] <GrizzLyCRO1> GTroy: when you are booting, do you get info on both screens?
[20:46] <GTroy> geoffmcc, you and me both
[20:46] <blaz_> The_Paco: just redirect it and see whats in the file; grep higlights mathing string but prints the whole line
[20:46] <GTroy> GrizzLyCRO1: nope, nada
[20:46] <GrizzLyCRO1> ah thats bad
[20:47] <GrizzLyCRO1> have you looked on laptopkeyboard for screen controls
[20:47] <trojan_spike> is it running at all?? giving any choices? i.e,, where to install etc?
[20:47] <GrizzLyCRO1> no, it is run in background, no gui
[20:47] <GTroy> GrizzLyCRO1: I could try that...
[20:47] <GrizzLyCRO1> i tried running it from cmd
[20:47] <The_Paco> blaz, it's all one giant line. It's a database file for Radio?Sure! that uses spaces as line separators
[20:47] <GrizzLyCRO1> and i run and i get stuck at cmd waiting for something
[20:48] <GrizzLyCRO1> and nothing happens
[20:48] <GTroy> GrizzLyCRO1: will try
[20:48] <GTroy> it's possible the screen has been turned off
[20:48] <geoffmcc> GTroy: Another suggestion not sure if will work is boot a live cd then mount drive and see if can edit xorg that way
[20:48] <trojan_spike> UAC off?
[20:48] <GTroy> but I'm not betting on it
[20:48] <GrizzLyCRO1> i see wubi.exe gets in task manager under win, but it closes
[20:48] <The_Paco> I'm just pulling all the URLs out of it to try to import them into Rhythmbox.... which hopefully I won't have to do by hand. Baby-steps, though
[20:48] <GrizzLyCRO1> no its not off, but i press yes on propmpt
[20:48] <GrizzLyCRO1> will try with uac off
[20:48] <trojan_spike> turn it off,,
[20:48] <MasterofPuppets> Hey guys, I can't connect to my wireless internet with Karmic. I know it's not the drivers, and it was connected a few minutes ago. Ideas?
[20:49] <GrizzLyCRO1> GTroy: you shopuld have buttons to disable or enable multi screen
[20:49] <GTroy> ok, thanks GrizzLyCRO1 and geoffmcc
[20:49] <GrizzLyCRO1> somewhere near mute button
[20:49] <frobe> I'm running 9.04 on my old laptop and it has been updating like grazy over the last few weeks average about 1 per week its crazy all these new updates all the time I was wondering whats up with that.?
[20:49] <trond-> MasterofPuppets, have you checked that the router is online? (just trying to check the obvious first)
[20:49] <MasterofPuppets> Well, given that my desktop is wireless and I'm talking to you, I think so ^_^
[20:49] <GTroy> GrizzLyCRO1: thanks I've always done it inside the original screen
[20:49] <MasterofPuppets> trond-: I reset it to be sure earlier, no help though.
[20:49] <GTroy> never used buttons for it
[20:50] <trojan_spike> MasterofPuppets, did u just do an upgrade?? if so go to package manager and 'fix broken packages'..
[20:50] <GrizzLyCRO1> you should have buttons for it
[20:50] <GTroy> got it, thanks
[20:50] <GrizzLyCRO1> for example i used function plus 4 or 5
[20:50] <GTroy> that solves a lot of problems
[20:50] <GrizzLyCRO1> it works?
[20:50] <nobarking> does anyone know what sites "youtube-dl" supports?
[20:50] <GTroy> no, this laptop is at another location
[20:50] <GrizzLyCRO1> ahh :D
[20:50] <blaz_> The_Paco: should be doable with sed, can you show small part of the file?
[20:50] <GrizzLyCRO1> well, gota restart
[20:50] <GrizzLyCRO1> see ya
[20:50] <GTroy> but a button control should help
[20:51] <GTroy> thanks GrizzLyCRO1
[20:51] <The_Paco> few mins
[20:51] <MasterofPuppets> trojan_spike: Nothing.
[20:51] <dreamy_> does reinstalling samba on synaptics, resets my CFG Settings ? anyone?
[20:51] <MasterofPuppets> Trond-, trojan-spike: To be clear, I can see the network, I just hang on joining and disconnect before the process completes.
[20:52] <VCoolio> nobarking: http://bitbucket.org/rg3/youtube-dl/wiki/Home
[20:52] <trism> The_Paco: how about: grep -o "http://[^ ]*" file.txt; assuming all urls start with http:// and have a space between them and the next word
[20:52] <nobarking> VCoolio: thanks
[20:52] <zephraph> Hey uh, can someone help me with a lucid problem I'm having on my hp touchsmart tx2? When I "click" with the stylus, the cursor freezes and won't move until I move it out of range of the screen... I've seen this error in some old Jaunty stuff, but I thought it was fixed for lucid. Suggestions?
[20:52] <trond-> MasterofPuppets, check if the password-window is hidden or not. Not seen that before.
[20:53] <trond-> (seen a lot in my years of using linux though)
[20:53] <MasterofPuppets> trond-: What do you mean? If it's asking for the passphrase but I'm not inputting it?
[20:54] <The_Paco> if I paste this hunk of DB I'll probably get kicked for spamming
[20:54] <trond-> MasterofPuppets, Yes, that's what I'm saying, could be a) that it asks for your login-password, or it could be that it asks for the wifi-keys
[20:54] <The_Paco> trism, I'll try that one, thanks
[20:54] <GrizzLyCRO> trojan_spike: uac off didnt help..
[20:54] <GrizzLyCRO> i run and it closes before giving me ay gui
[20:55] <MasterofPuppets> trond-: The password is set to auto-fill, and it isn't asking for my password.
[20:55] <pat|nG> erUSUL: dude...it's working...remember i've asked u about the wireless thing on my vbox? it's working thanx dude....but i dunno on how to config my aircrack on this one....that's my problem now...geez btw thanx again!
[20:55] <GrizzLyCRO> tried compat modes, no help
[20:55] <trojan_spike> ok,, it seemed like a broken wubi
[20:55] <GrizzLyCRO> well, i read that it can happen if i do something with partitions from win
[20:55] <GrizzLyCRO> but i dont know how that would be relevant
[20:55] <sdwinder> hi all
[20:55] <trond-> MasterofPuppets, ok. hm. you could try and "remove" the connection, and then try and set the values again. what does iwconfig give you?
[20:56] <GrizzLyCRO> i have tried 4 different wubi.exe
[20:56] <sdwinder> anyone here have any exerience dealing with clonezilla imaging on a ubuntu based ststem?
[20:56] <GrizzLyCRO> and mint4exe of latest mind livecd
[20:56] <trojan_spike> MasterofPuppets, its showing your wifi sender?
[20:56] <GrizzLyCRO> any other ideaas?
[20:57] <MasterofPuppets> trond- Iwconfig shows it as connecting when it's connecting, idle when it isn't. So far, everything should be working
[20:57] <MasterofPuppets> trojan_spike: Yes
[20:57] <trojan_spike> GrizzLyCRO, you have no usb or disk drives?
[20:57] <GrizzLyCRO> i have usb, but its too small
[20:57] <GrizzLyCRO> i have once managed to install ubuntu from hd
[20:58] <trojan_spike> so not drivers .. best trying what trond- said.. reset passphrase etc..
[20:58] <GrizzLyCRO> but cant do that as i have both hard drives full
[20:58] <trojan_spike> what size is the usb?
[20:58] <GrizzLyCRO> 256 :D
[20:58] <geoffmcc> GrizzlyCRO: im kinda jumoin in middle without seeing whole convo - but isnt there a network install cd too
[20:58] <trojan_spike> ouch
[20:59] <GrizzLyCRO> i dont have and disk drives
[20:59] <GrizzLyCRO> so no cd will help me
[20:59] <trojan_spike> get a tiny o.s that can install from usb,, then upgrades to 10.04??
[21:00] <soroush> I can't have access to internet through my UBUNTU 10.04 because ubuntu doesn't recognise my wireless(minicard 1397). I did lspci(http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/mt3a3qh7) and lspci -vvv (http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/eCsmvEXa). what should I do now?
[21:00] <GrizzLyCRO> uh sry, closed all processes that i could
[21:00] <MarkSS> I ran Unhide Brute and it keeps coming back with Segmentation fault.  What is that and should I be worried?
[21:00] <The_Paco> trism, your grep options mostly worked. I'll have to look at it closer to see why. What's that free book that you guys tout in here, and does it give good in-depth command help/examples?
[21:00] <GrizzLyCRO> trojan_spike: i  dont know if thats worth effort
[21:00] <goliat> Hey people. Im running Ubunto on a laptop and im locking for a way to add folders as shorcuts, like Music, Pictures, Photos e.t.c.?
[21:00] <GrizzLyCRO> last time i did something lie that was to make my cd image on hd bootable
[21:01] <MasterofPuppets> trond-, trojan_spike: I'll be back in a bit
[21:01] <GrizzLyCRO> but i dont know what could i install from 256 mb usb
[21:01] <MasterofPuppets> trond-, trojan_spike: Thanks though
[21:01] <GrizzLyCRO> eh
[21:01] <MarkSS> I ran Unhide Brute and it keeps coming back with Segmentation fault.  What is that and should I be worried?
[21:01] <GrizzLyCRO> roomie's gf has 1 gb usb
[21:01] <geoffmcc> GrizzLyCRO: i just got a 4 gig @ radishack for $12 yesterday
[21:01] <GrizzLyCRO> i will get that in 10 mins or so :D
[21:02] <GrizzLyCRO> i have 16 gb usb, but left it at home
[21:02] <npinchot> beating my head against the wall trying to make an upstart script, i keep getting "start: rejected send message", is there a common reason for this?
[21:02] <GrizzLyCRO> which is other city 150 k away..
[21:02] <trojan_spike> GrizzLyCRO, try to get a lead of a disk drive
[21:02] <GrizzLyCRO> yeah
[21:02] <geoffmcc> GrizzLyCRO: a real ubuntu enthusiast would drive that distance, lol... kidding
[21:02] <GrizzLyCRO> i saw some usb disk creator on 10.10 cd
[21:02] <GrizzLyCRO> should i use that
[21:03] <GrizzLyCRO> or config it manually with 10.4
[21:03] <GrizzLyCRO> i would prefer using stable 10.4
[21:03] <trojan_spike> 10.10 is pretty stable..
[21:03] <GrizzLyCRO> ok, so i am safe using that usb creator
[21:03] <trojan_spike> yea,,
[21:04] <trism> The_Paco: not sure what book you mean, someone else here may have a suggestion for you, but about the grep, it is basically saying to match strings starting with http:// followed by 0 or more characters that aren't spaces, and the -o tells grep to only print the matches not the full line
[21:04] <trojan_spike> windows has a good disk creator
[21:05] <The_Paco> trism, awesome. Thanks
[21:05] <soroush> I can't have access to internet through my UBUNTU 10.04 because ubuntu doesn't recognise my wireless(minicard 1397). I did lspci(http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/mt3a3qh7) and lspci -vvv (http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/eCsmvEXa). what should I do now?
[21:05] <CajunTechie> How is the boot time of 10.10 compared to 10.4?
[21:06] <VCoolio> !abs | The_Paco you mean this?
[21:06] <trojan_spike> CajunTechie, about the same
[21:06] <The_Paco> I'm still trying to find a readable/understandable (to me) book about bash commands
[21:06] <CajunTechie> Trojan: Oh, I thought they said it was going to be hugely different?
[21:06] <The_Paco> VCoolio, awesome timing. I'll check that one out
[21:06] <sithlord48> soroush:  can u plugin  a wire to your card and try using jockey to install stuff for your wifi card. (also check to see if there is a physical on/off switch)
[21:07] <spirat> hello ?
[21:07] <guntbert> The_Paco: and don't feel intimidated by the title "advanced...." :-)
[21:08] <soroush> sithlord48: 1. I dont hav wire connection now. 2. I couldn't connect with lan following Ubuntu help
[21:08] <sithlord48> soroush: oh, well then.. let me take a peek @ your lshw i;ll get back to u
[21:08] <GrizzLyCRO> ok, making of usb install disc is in progress, its at 0% for quite some time now already
[21:09] <GrizzLyCRO> time remaining varies, from 2000 minutes to 100 :)
[21:09] <soroush> sithlord48: about an hour ago sb told me to do so. that's why I've copied this information here . thanks
[21:09] <The_Paco> guntbert, I feel intimidated because I'm going to have to remember how to FIND where apt installed the thing now :D
[21:10] <sithlord48> soroush: it looks like u have the same wired card as one of my machines iirc it works just fine w/ *buntu
[21:10] <trojan_spike> The_Paco, see my message
[21:11] <captain-moses> htere
[21:11] <Supersonic> ex-chat
[21:11] <Supersonic> ...
[21:11] <GrizzLyCRO> oh yeah, its on 1 percent !!!!!!
[21:11] <captain-moses> can someone help me with themeing my xubuntu desktop?
[21:12] <sithlord48> soroush: try to do the following when u can get wired connection, check ifconfig see what it repots (network manager should auto connect)
[21:12] <soroush> sithlord48: you mean that I made a mistake and wired connection should have worked without any additional package rather than CD?
[21:13] <captain-moses> I try to install the Mac4Lin theme on Xubuntu - but the installer script won't start.... and I don't know why
[21:13] <skjold_> hello, having some serious problems with my fans on my laptop.... they won't seem to actually turn on.... even though the computer has shut down at 90 degrees more than once the fans just don't spin... anyone got any ideas to how i could get them turned on? :)
[21:13] <GrizzLyCRO> skjold_: do they work when you boot?
[21:13] <GrizzLyCRO> while in bios and such
[21:13] <The_Paco> have you tested them in a known-good environment or system?
[21:14] <skjold_> they work fine in windows
[21:14] <skjold_> not sure about bios, as it's rarely hot then :P
[21:14] <GrizzLyCRO> is that new problem, or you have it since you insalled ubuntu?
[21:14] <skjold_> had it since install
[21:14] <GrizzLyCRO> well, you should be able to hear them spinning
[21:15] <[FKU]Greycloak> loving ubuntu so far, but every time I start up the computer I need to do a grub repair first, then it lets me boot
[21:15] <GrizzLyCRO> try turning all coolnquiet and similar stuff off in bios
[21:15] <skjold_> well, the thing is... one of the fans does work.. think it's the graphics card one.. but the other one never does
[21:15] <rh-> cam cum, teroane? :))
[21:15] <[FKU]Greycloak> most of the time this happens if I try hibernation
[21:15] <rh-> probabil nu intelege niciunu nimic
[21:15] <rh-> dar asta-i viata
[21:15] <Theron___> _=
[21:15] <Theron___> :))
[21:15] <rh-> sa v-o trag in cur fagotilor
[21:15] <rh->  :)))
[21:16] <[FKU]Greycloak> any insight into why this happens?
[21:16] <[FKU]Greycloak> the initial boot just leaves a blinking cursor in the top left of the screen
[21:16] <[FKU]Greycloak> if I reboot again it gives me the option to go to restore mode
[21:16] <pat|nG> hi! im using ubuntu 10.04 lucid...i would like to know if its possible to monitor my network traffic? using terminal? whats the command? just to make sure no one messes in my network connection. thanx
[21:16] <[FKU]Greycloak> then if I do a grub repair and reboot, it boots normally
[21:17] <jkazana> pat|nG: apt-get iptraf
[21:18] <IdleOp> !romania | rh-
[21:18] <geoffmcc> [FKU]Greycloak: dual boot with win?
[21:18] <[FKU]Greycloak> nope
[21:18] <[FKU]Greycloak> wiped out windows and put ubuntu 9.10 on it
[21:18] <[FKU]Greycloak> everything works great except for this issue
[21:18] <[FKU]Greycloak> 10.4 wouldnt start because of the intel chipset
[21:18] <pat|nG> jkazana: invalid operation
[21:19] <JohnnyL_> I'm having difficulty compiling g++. This is what I get: cp: cannot stat `./libgomp.info': No such file or directory
[21:20] <[FKU]Greycloak> pat|nG: sudo apt-get install iptraf
[21:20] <[FKU]Greycloak> that should work
[21:21] <[FKU]Greycloak> no insights into this boot problem with 9.10?
[21:21] <[FKU]Greycloak> sometimes it boots fine
[21:21] <[FKU]Greycloak> but if my battery dies, or I use hibernate, it seems that grub gets corrupted somehow
[21:23] <brett\> JohnnyL_, compiling g++? why can't you just apt-get install it?
[21:23] <oneneedshelp> hi....i need help......just installed 10.10.....dunno how to install application .tar.gz
[21:23] <jrib> !software > oneneedshelp
[21:23] <[FKU]Greycloak> .tar.gz is an archive
[21:23] <ikonia> oneneedshelp: if you are at a basic level, using a development version of ubuntu is not a good idea
[21:23] <[FKU]Greycloak> unpack it first
[21:24] <ikonia> oneneedshelp: 10.10 is not supported but you can discuss it in #ubuntu+1
[21:24] <snlemons> I used to be able to rename my workspaces. Now the workspace switcher only has options for number of workspaces and number of columns. Is there no way to rename them now?
[21:25] <ost2life> join #XBMC
[21:27] <JohnnyL_> brett\: because Ubuntu's g++ isn't the latest version.
[21:28] <GrizzLyCRO> trojan_spike: usb method didnt work...
[21:28] <GrizzLyCRO> i am totally out of luck
[21:28] <GrizzLyCRO> it come to around 20-30 percent i think
[21:28] <trojan_spike> not enough space?
[21:29] <brett\> JohnnyL_, youre doing bleeding edge work to really require the newest version of that compiler? i find it funny youre asking that here at all...
[21:29] <GrizzLyCRO> and then it said, could read rive E (thats where i mounted cd image)
[21:29] <ost2life> is there anyone here who's willing to help me out with xbmc on ubuntu? the #xbmc channel seems dead
[21:29] <GrizzLyCRO> coulnt
[21:29] <GrizzLyCRO> couldNOT
[21:29] <jrib> ost2life: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[21:30] <trojan_spike> disk drive
[21:30] <GrizzLyCRO> iits virtual cd
[21:30] <GrizzLyCRO> mounted with power iso
[21:31] <trojan_spike> that wud never work
[21:32] <valuedcustomer> is it possible to get the desktop notification style (i.e. lower right with an 'x' to dismiss) used in ubuntu studio to work in desktop ubuntu?
[21:32] <GrizzLyCRO> trojan_spike: why?
[21:32] <trojan_spike> because it has to boot on boot up,,
[21:32] <GrizzLyCRO> i tried choosing .iso file with usb creator exe but it just ignores my selection
[21:33] <[FKU]Greycloak> put the iso in the same folder as the usb creator
[21:33] <[FKU]Greycloak> it should find it automatically
[21:33] <GrizzLyCRO> oh no, as usb was in creation process thats when it crashed
[21:33] <[FKU]Greycloak> *sigh* i guess i'm stuck with this boot issue
[21:34] <[FKU]Greycloak> everytime i start the computer it'll just take 2 boots to work
[21:34] <GrizzLyCRO> i will try to make usb manually
[21:35] <[FKU]Greycloak> wait grizzly
[21:35] <[FKU]Greycloak> you mounted the iso?
[21:35] <GrizzLyCRO> yeah
[21:35] <[FKU]Greycloak> you don't need to do that with the usb creator
[21:35] <GrizzLyCRO> in windows
[21:35] <GrizzLyCRO> i do
[21:35] <[FKU]Greycloak> just put the iso in the same folder as the usb creator
[21:35] <[FKU]Greycloak> then select the distro from the drop down
[21:35] <GrizzLyCRO> oh.. :)
[21:35] <[FKU]Greycloak> I made mine like that
[21:35] <[FKU]Greycloak> no mount required
[21:35] <[FKU]Greycloak> added a 1gb casper as well
[21:36] <[FKU]Greycloak> so in short: point usb creator to the actual iso, not the mounted drive
[21:36] <oneneedshelp> hi....i need help......just installed 10.04.....dunno how to install application .tar.gz
[21:36] <GrizzLyCRO> well, mine was started, and crashed with 234 mb of casper.squahfs copied
[21:36] <sreeraj_c> Hi
[21:36] <jrib> oneneedshelp: didn't you say 10.10 2 minutes ago?
[21:36] <[FKU]Greycloak> .tar.gz files are archives oneneedshelp
[21:36] <GrizzLyCRO> going from start, how should i format usb?
[21:36] <[FKU]Greycloak> you have to unpack them first
[21:36] <ikonia> oneneedshelp: yes, he did
[21:36] <GrizzLyCRO> fat32?
[21:36] <[FKU]Greycloak> grizz...the usb creator will do it for you
[21:37] <[FKU]Greycloak> if you check the option
[21:37] <oneneedshelp> yeah but it turned out to be 10.04
[21:37] <oneneedshelp> checked it on terminal
[21:37] <GrizzLyCRO> i dont have option to format disk
[21:37] <jrib> oneneedshelp: what exactly are you trying to install?
[21:37] <oneneedshelp> utorrent
[21:37] <[FKU]Greycloak> using the most recent usb creator?
[21:37] <[FKU]Greycloak> 1.9.5 or some such
[21:37] <ikonia> oneneedshelp: utorrent is in the repos
[21:37] <GrizzLyCRO> yeah dled 10.10 2 days ago
[21:37] <[FKU]Greycloak> once you select the flash drive it should have a check mark for "format drive"
[21:37] <ikonia> oneneedshelp: you don't need to compile it, just open the package manager, search for utorrent and click install
[21:37] <oneneedshelp> no...there was ktorrent
[21:38] <GrizzLyCRO> there isnt any
[21:38] <oneneedshelp> u mean the Software Center
[21:38] <PHAT64> Does anyone now if it is possible to use Netstumbler on ubuntu? If I have to I can use kismet or Iwscanner.
[21:38] <ikonia> oneneedshelp: ahh, hang on utorrent is the windows app isn't it ?
[21:38] <GrizzLyCRO> and i still can only select whats in cd drive as source
[21:38] <GrizzLyCRO> cant select iso
[21:38] <jrib> ikonia: yeah, though they have a linux download now it seems
[21:38] <LjL> ikonia: yes
[21:39] <ikonia> jrib: really ? when did that appear ?
[21:39] <oneneedshelp> there is a linux version
[21:39] <jrib> oneneedshelp: have you tried the native alternatives?  There are plenty of torrent clients
[21:39] <[FKU]Greycloak> are you using this guide: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/put-ubuntu-10-04-on-flash-drive-using-windows/
[21:39] <[FKU]Greycloak> ?
[21:39] <oneneedshelp> .tar.gz
[21:39] <gianpaolo> ciao
[21:39] <jrib> ikonia: no idea, I just looked now and there's a "linux" tab
[21:39] <GrizzLyCRO> ok tnx [FKU]Greycloak
[21:39] <[FKU]Greycloak> np
[21:39] <Ichat> LjL  why utorrent  as   transmission  is  quite the samen and even just a bit faster
[21:39] <[FKU]Greycloak> you may have to unmount the iso before you can select it with the usb installer
[21:39] <LjL> Ichat: don't ask me, i'm not the one using either
[21:40] <sreeraj_c> pls help me , my PIDGIN crashes when i make audio call
[21:40] <GrizzLyCRO> tried, wont work...
[21:40] <oneneedshelp> can someone give me a link to stable ubuntu since I have downloaded the one on the front page of ubuntu.com
[21:40] <Ichat> LjL sorry ;)
[21:40] <ikonia> oneneedshelp: I wouldn't recommend using that, reading the info on the site, it's very very early alpha
[21:40] <oneneedshelp> which turned out to be beta
[21:40] <sreeraj_c> pls help me , my PIDGIN crashes when i make audio call
[21:40] <jrib> oneneedshelp: 10.04 is stable
[21:40] <jrib> oneneedshelp: you just said you had 10.04
[21:40] <trojan_spike> GrizzLyCRO, the iso wont have to be mounted to be read..
[21:40] <[FKU]Greycloak> 10.04 has problems with older intel video chipsets though
[21:40] <GrizzLyCRO> in that guide  author says 2gb min
[21:40] <[FKU]Greycloak> I had to use 9.10 on my inspiron 700m
[21:41] <sreeraj_c> pls help me , my PIDGIN crashes when i make audio call
[21:41] <GrizzLyCRO> i have 1 gb usb, but it should work as cd is only 700 mb
[21:41] <sreeraj_c> pls help me , my PIDGIN crashes when i make audio call
[21:41] <IdleOp> !repeat | sreeraj_c
[21:41] <planet8>  Would someone running the reiserfs mind copy paste the entry in fstab?
[21:41] <ikonia> when did pidgin start supporting audo calls ?
[21:41] <[FKU]Greycloak> yeah grizz, but you won't be able to make it persistent
[21:41] <Tempus_Fugit> I am trying to talk my Dad into Ubuntu and he asked me to find out if there are any programs out there in Linux that he can run his home phone line through his computer to filter out unwanted calls i.e any 800 numbers or blocked or unknowns?? anyone heard of such a program??
[21:41] <SaintSapphire> How difficult is it to created a locked down account that can SSH into my machine, but otherwise can't do much? I want to let a friend tunnel through my machine, but don't want to give them free reign over everything.
[21:41] <ikonia> planet8: what's your real question
[21:41] <trojan_spike> GrizzLyCRO, get a smaller O.S then.. u can upgrade from there
[21:41] <Ichat> ikonia:  -  some time ago  (jingle only though)
[21:41] <oneneedshelp> this is what the terminal says but i am sure i got the one on ubuntu main page
[21:41] <GrizzLyCRO> i dont need persistent, i want to install ubuntu from that usb
[21:41] <ikonia> trojan_spike: not really no, you'd need a full PBX setup for that
[21:42] <oneneedshelp> which says 10.10 beta
[21:42] <[FKU]Greycloak> that guide should work fine then
[21:42] <ikonia> oneneedshelp: what says 10.10 beta ?
[21:42] <oneneedshelp> http://www.ubuntu.com/
[21:42] <jrib> oneneedshelp: if you clicked "download ubuntu" on ubuntu.com, that was for the stable release
[21:42] <Ichat> !download
[21:42] <trojan_spike> just use repo keys,, ?
[21:42] <JeffryvdM> can anybody help me i just bought a new laptop (asus X77J Intel i7 ATI Mobility Radeon HD5730 4GB ram) after installing Ubuntu 10.04 and updating drivers and security updates it wont boot any more, it just shows a white cursor after the big asus logo disappeared and does nothing
[21:43] <oneneedshelp> the version on the main page http://www.ubuntu.com/
[21:43] <jrib> oneneedshelp: anyway, you have 10.04 installed now so you downloaded 10.04
[21:43] <Ichat> oneneedshelp:  - just gave you the link
[21:43] <[FKU]Greycloak> JeffryvdM: probably a video driver issue
[21:43] <[FKU]Greycloak> you could force it to load up with VESA to at least get access to the system
[21:43] <[FKU]Greycloak> then update the video drivers
[21:43] <JeffryvdM> yeah i thought so but it happend too when i didnt install the ati driver
[21:44] <trojan_spike> JeffryvdM, does it show any kernels?
[21:44] <oneneedshelp> yes right.....is there an installer application that can help me ?
[21:44] <JeffryvdM> nope just a cursor
[21:44] <[FKU]Greycloak> i had a similar problem
[21:44] <kromium> Hi
[21:44] <[FKU]Greycloak> does it give you any options second time booting it?
[21:44] <kromium> did anyone try installing ubuntu on Thinkpad X201 ?
[21:44] <JeffryvdM> no
[21:44] <GrizzLyCRO> ok its extracting files to usb now
[21:44] <jrib> oneneedshelp: I'd recommend you try some of the native linux torrent clienst.  Like transmission for example
[21:44] <Ichat> oneneedshelp:  - download from the download page and read the install howto
[21:44] <planet8> ikonia, there is no question, I just need that copy paste if someone got it and wouldn't mind sharing it
[21:44] <IdleOp> oneneedshelp: Did you bother reading the link I gave you before on compiling?
[21:45] <jrib> !torrent | oneneedshelp
[21:45] <[FKU]Greycloak> qbittorrent is pretty good
[21:45] <trojan_spike> reinstall ,, then check-out the problem on forum before updating / upgrading
[21:45] <IdleOp> Ichat: he already has Ubuntu installed.
[21:45] <oneneedshelp> pls paste it again
[21:45] <IdleOp> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[21:45] <ikonia> planet8: why do you need it ?
[21:45] <JeffryvdM> i allready reinstalled it several times cant find anything on the forum and it does the same if i dont update anything
[21:46] <planet8> ikonia, if you haven't got it or wont share it, stop bothering me
[21:46] <ikonia> planet8: I'm asking why you want it
[21:46] <ikonia> I'm happy to share if I understand the reason
[21:46] <npinchot> JeffryvdM: that is a new feature "boot once only", it is extreme security
[21:47] <JeffryvdM> lol
[21:47] <[FKU]Greycloak> JeffryvdM: take alook at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1503509
[21:48] <planet8> ikonia, well I am not going to explain, just share it or bother someone else
[21:48] <trojan_spike> JeffryvdM, could it be your chipsets?? i.e using 64bit,, ?
[21:48] <ikonia> planet8: drop the attitude, people are tyring to help you
[21:48] <JeffryvdM> no using 32bit
[21:48] <eshannon> hello everyone. I am having a problem with video play back. I have a blue tint and have not been able to get rid of it on this one box. I on Ubuntu 10.4 with nvidia drivers
[21:48] <GrizzLyCRO> eshannon: tried vlc?
[21:48] <JeffryvdM> but ill try to update the kernel after i reinstalled it
[21:48] <jrib> planet8: your question is kind of strange.  All you do is put "reiserfs" as the filesystem in fstab
[21:49] <PreZ> I installed ubuntu on a new hdd, and I have the old hdd attached still.  How do I mount my encrypted home dir from the old hdd to copy the data to the new hdd
[21:49] <Paddy_NI> GrizzLyCRO, that is not really a solution
[21:49] <eshannon> Yes I am using VLC
[21:49] <PreZ> preferably without having to boot the old hdd first to do the copy and such
[21:49] <trojan_spike> kk,, post on the forum about it..
[21:49] <planet8> ikonia, you are not
[21:49] <Paddy_NI> eshannon, What do you mean blue tint.. could you perhaps make a screenshot
[21:49] <JeffryvdM> thanks for your help everyone ill come back if it doesnt work
[21:49] <planet8> jrip, thanks, but there is something like notail right?
[21:49] <GrizzLyCRO> eshannon: like grayscale, only its in blue tones?
[21:49] <jrib> planet8: I don't know, is that your real question?
[21:49] <ikonia> planet8: I am, as if I know what th eproblem is or why you want it, I can help properly. eg: if you need an option, I need to know you're not going to blindly copy and paste mine and make your system not boot
[21:49] <pptf> fkkkk. this chat room has over 900 users!!
[21:50] <GrizzLyCRO> or single blue color?
[21:50] <eshannon> GrizzLyCRO yes and I can make a screen shot
[21:50] <planet8> ikonia, I'll know what to do with it, just copy paste it please
[21:50] <JeffryvdM> wtf after i insert the cd it just booted from the hd
[21:50] <GrizzLyCRO> what yes, blue scale or single color?
[21:50] <ikonia> planet8: no,
[21:50] <aconrad> hi there, how can I make my external monitor on my laptop to be the primary one (I want the menu bar and clock on the external monitor)
[21:50] <Paddy_NI> eshannon, Do a screenshot so I can see what you mean
[21:50] <planet8> I am running something else and I need the setup
[21:50] <ikonia> JeffryvdM: please control your language
[21:50] <JeffryvdM> pardon me
[21:50] <planet8> ikonia, thanks.. you are the best
[21:51] <ikonia> planet8: so just explain (briefly) the problem, we can even help you build a custom line
[21:51] <eshannon> Paddy_NI where should I upload screen shot to
[21:51] <Ichat> JeffryvdM:   -   sounds like a grub error than?
[21:51] <jrib> planet8: notail is an option that you can enable, or not.  It's an option.  The options are described in « man mount ».  If you need help understanding something specific, ask that question
[21:51] <GrizzLyCRO> eshannon: pasteall.org
[21:51] <JeffryvdM> i guess so
[21:51] <planet8> ikonia, there is no problem, I just need to know, what the default line is in fstab on ubuntu
[21:52] <Ichat> ./ignore
[21:52] <ikonia> planet8: default ? that depends on your install, however the default does not come with notail if that's what your asking
[21:52] <taget> Hi everybody :)
[21:52] <planet8> ikonia, never mind.. ill just run some test installations
[21:52] <ikonia> ok
[21:53] <Ichat> ikonia:  -  Q how do you track all of this,
[21:53] <ikonia> Ichat: what do you mean ?
[21:53] <[FKU]Greycloak> JeffryvdM: reboot and press escape to bring up the grub menu, then select recovery mode
[21:54] <janisozaur> hi there! just dropping to let you know there is new, fresh x64 (also x86) flash "square" from adobe for those of you who use it. it advertises itself as version 10.2.161.22 and you can actually watch a 1080p video from youtube (on c2d 2.13ghz, apparently there's no gpu support) using this thing. hooray!
[21:54] <[FKU]Greycloak> you'll see a 'repair groub' option
[21:54] <Ichat> ikonia:  -  i mean al these diferent simmulatious conversations.
[21:54] <ikonia> Ichat: just practice
[21:54] <cbrinke1> Is the "drops" column in "cat /proc/net/udp" packets or bytes?
[21:54] <IdleOp> Ichat: after a while you stop seeing the code and all you see is the chat
[21:54] <IdleOp> :)
[21:54] <janisozaur> oh, and the download site link: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[21:54] <Vardan> hi all
[21:54] <Paddy_NI> Ichat, it really aint that hard
[21:54] <GrizzLyCRO> ok got usb readied, wish me luck :)
[21:54] <[FKU]Greycloak> gl
[21:54] <pptf> ikonia: i am dizzy just from following up the moving screen
[21:55] <gabeodess> Hey, can anyone help me with this http://pastie.org/1161510 ?
[21:55] <Paddy_NI> Ichat, although if all 1300+ users asked a question at the same time then I am sure ikonias head would explode
[21:55] <Ichat> i mean im trying to learn more about linux visitiong here,  getting my ubuntu skills up to the level i have with windows ...
[21:55] <gabeodess> aparently my disk is completely full but I can't figure out where all the space is!
[21:55] <pptf> Ichat: how long have you been on linux?
[21:55] <Ichat> my sometimes i get really confused -  and the  'language barier doesn't help either'
[21:56] <jrib> gabeodess: df -h
[21:56] <pptf> language barrier? usted parle deutsche?
[21:56] <serapophis> Ichat: Language barrier?
[21:56] <[FKU]Greycloak> I'd love to get rid of windows for good
[21:56] <serapophis> pptf: ^^
[21:56] <[FKU]Greycloak> but I'm a moderator for an online FPS, Crossfire
[21:56] <[FKU]Greycloak> and the anticheat needs access to the windows kernel
[21:56] <Ichat> dutch native
[21:56] <[FKU]Greycloak> so i'll have to keep windows up on at least one partition
[21:57] <gabeodess> jrib: I did that http://pastie.org/1161510 , but it says sda1 is using all the space... whta is that?
[21:57] <ikonia> guys, for friendly chat try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:57] <ikonia> try to keep this channel for just support discussion
[21:57] <Ichat> pptf   i just linux on my laptop (witch i use most of the time, since   8.04  i thing.   so thats 2 years  i guess
[21:57] <[FKU]Greycloak> kk, on that note...Every time I reboot ubuntu 9.10 I just get a blinking cursor in the top left of the screen
  pasteall.org seems to be for Code I haven't been able to post a jpg or png on there
[21:57] <janisozaur> !nl | Ichat
[21:57] <[FKU]Greycloak> second boot i cna get to recovery mode and repair grub
[21:58] <[FKU]Greycloak> then it works
[21:58] <[FKU]Greycloak> any way to avoid this?
[21:58] <Vardan> people I have installed kubuntu 10.10 beta release and have such kind of problem. For example when I open rekonq the system says that there are some extra packages that I may need to install I click details it's showing packages names I click install, then the system ask my password I type password and every time it shows up this message "The package "" has not been found among your software sources. Therefore, it cannot be installed." what is the problem?
[21:58] <maedox> janisozaur, thanks man, it works good in google-chrome too, but with manual install of course.
[21:58] <davefromcamp> does anyone here use mpd?
[21:58] <Ichat> off to bed ... gnight.. btw this chan is more used thats why im here more...
[21:58] <janisozaur> davefromcamp, used to
[21:58] <jrib> gabeodess: is your question, "why Used != Size but it is at 100%?" or "How can I find what is using all the space?"
[21:59] <Sentynel> I have a very old damaged tarball (a backup of someone's home directory circa 2000) we're trying to recover a file from. The backup is tar.gz; de-gzips fine, but throws errors de-tarring. cpio will detar most of it, though there are errors. Text files and some binary files in the cpio'd result are legible. We're trying to get a text file out of a gzipped file. With gzip -d < filein > fileout, the first few lines of the file are legible, but then
[21:59] <Sentynel>  it becomes jumbled. Anyone able to help?
[21:59] <gabeodess> jrib: I really need to know the latter, but I am also curious about the former
[22:00] <gabeodess> jrib: yes.  I need to know how to find what is using all the space.
[22:00] <gabeodess> jrib: I thought that "du" would tell me that...
[22:00] <sreeraj_c> pls help me , my PIDGIN crashes when i make audio call
[22:01] <jrib> gabeodess: regarding the former, there is reserved space for root (you can change how much with tune2fs).  For the latter, yes du should tell you that, strange that it reports 1.8G for /
[22:01] <gabeodess> shit
[22:01] <[FKU]Greycloak> gabeodess: http://www.methylblue.com/filelight/
[22:02] <ikonia> gabeodess: please control your language
[22:02] <gabeodess> sorry.
[22:02] <aliverius_> how can i download a source package?
[22:02] <dajhorn> Sentynel: You're probably screwed.  The commentary in the gzip source code describes how to reset the decompression dictionary, but actually doing it is deep voodoo.
[22:02] <ikonia> aliverius_: what do you want to install ?
[22:02] <janisozaur> aliverius, apt-get source package
[22:02] <aliverius_> thanks janisozaur
[22:02] <janisozaur> aliverius, it will download, extract and patch source into your cwd
[22:03] <gabeodess> ikonia: do you know why "du /" might say 1.8G when "df -h" says that /dev/sda1 is using 18G ?
[22:03] <dajhorn> Sentynel: You can also try `gtar` or `star` with the various compatibility options.   eg:  GNU vice old Sun style.
[22:03] <JohnnyL_> brett\: what is your point?
[22:03] <Sentynel> dajhorn: Heh, we feared as much. One of us noticed fewer \r characters than expected in the .gz file, and discovered that adding a pair of \r characters where the corruption starts made things a little better, but hasn't been able to get any futher.
[22:03] <ikonia> gabeodess: can you pastebin the output of both please
[22:04] <ikonia> gabeodess: (just the last few lines of du -h / will do )
[22:04] <gabeodess> ikonia: http://pastie.org/1161510
[22:04] <aliverius_> ikonia: vlc cli only for a server
[22:04] <aliverius_> are you ikonia from lfs?
[22:04] <dajhorn> Sentynel: Force the file through dos2unix and/or unix2dos.  You might get lucky.
[22:04] <ikonia> aliverius_: yes
[22:04] <aliverius_> ikonia: :))
[22:04] <janisozaur> gabeodess, there might be sparse files? but i think that du should report more than df in such cases
[22:04] <Edgan> gabeodess: try du -hs /
[22:04] <aliverius_> there was a time we were chatting in there
[22:04] <ikonia> gabeodess: you've used maxdepth=1 which will only go 1 dir deep
[22:05] <ikonia> aliverius_: I'm sure, I'm still active
[22:05] <The_Paco> I've been dinking around this past hour (slow) learning regular expression bits and setting up this grep of a large file: grep -o "http://[^ ]*[/>]" big.file... I want to redirect it's output, but I also want to insert newlines between each found instance. Is that something I can put in the command, or do I need to write a script for that?
[22:05] <aliverius_> nice!
[22:05] <ikonia> gabeodess: remove the --maxdepth option
[22:05] <wx9j> how do I create an image of my entire OS to ext storage s I can replace a drive ?
[22:05] <gabeodess> Edgar: pound@loadbalancer:~$ sudo du -hs /
[22:05] <gabeodess> 1.8G	/
[22:05] <ikonia> wx9j: will the drive be the same size as the other one
[22:06] <dajhorn> The_Paco: Read a `sed` tutorial.
[22:06] <ikonia> gabeodess: du -h /
[22:06] <blaz_> The_Paco: sorry i've bee naway for a while, did you post the file fragment somewhere?
[22:06] <ikonia> gabeodess: that's all you need
[22:06] <Artemis3> i like clonezilla for those tasks
[22:06] <Edgan> ikonia: -hs is better, less noise
[22:06] <The_Paco> dajhorn, okay.
[22:06] <wx9j> ikonia, it should be the same one, I just want to try some new toys and want the system to be able to be put back as easy as I can
[22:06] <ikonia> Edgan: I want to see where the space is
[22:07] <ikonia> wx9j: dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/image/mydisk.img bs=512k
[22:07] <The_Paco> blaz_, I'm afraid to paste it directly in here. Would I get kicked for spamming?
[22:07] <ikonia> wx9j: obviously changging the device and output file
[22:07] <dajhorn> The_Paco:  You will use the same regex that you have for grep,  but you're going to put it into a s/MyExpression/Add-a-new-line/ expression.
[22:07] <pptf> The_Paco: yes
[22:07] <Edgan> gabeodess: dmesg | tail
[22:07] <erUSUL> The_Paco: grep -o "http://[^ ]*[/>]" big.file | sed G > output_file
[22:07] <ilovefairuz> !paste | The_Paco
[22:07] <Edgan> gabeodess: you been playing with any virtualization software?
[22:08] <jrib> gabeodess: I know that if you delete files that are being used by the system still it may cause a discrepancy, but 16G-worth seems like a lot
[22:08] <wx9j> ikonia, thanks, I will look at this
[22:08] <gabeodess> Edgan: not that I'm aware of
[22:08] <wx9j> ikonia, how will I then restore that file ?
[22:09] <ikonia> wx9j: back to front, dd if=/mnt/image/myimage.img of=/dev/sda bs=512k
[22:09] <gabeodess> Edgan: I got a bunch of shrinks window and "repaired" messages
[22:09] <Edgan> gabeodess:  find / -size +2G
[22:09] <Edgan> gabeodess: sounds like tcp, aka networking stuff
[22:09] <Edgan> gabeodess: What about bittorrent?
[22:10] <jpds> gabeodess: Oh, yeah; that stuff.
[22:10] <The_Paco> dajhorn, erUSUL, thanks for the info, I'll dig around in 'sed' mans some more to understand it better (hopefully). blaz_, ilovefairuz, thanks for that, I can still paste it if you want blaz_
[22:10] <wx9j> ikonia, thanks, I have a lot to learn
[22:10] <erUSUL> The_Paco: i took it from the sed1liners.txt ;P
[22:10] <gabeodess> Edgan: this is a load balancing server
[22:10] <blaz_> The_Paco: go dig sed!
[22:10] <gabeodess> Edgan: to be honest I don't really know a lot about it.
[22:10] <Edgan> gabeodess: ok, well, what are the results of the find command above
[22:11] <sreeraj_c> pls help me , my PIDGIN crashes when i make audio call
[22:11] <ilovefairuz> wx9j: pay close attention to the second argument (of=) if you type the wrong disk/partition, it will be erased
[22:11] <Edgan> gabeodess: Ah, you could have something hiding under a mount point
[22:11] <gabeodess> Edgan: http://pastie.org/1161563
[22:11] <Dulak> The_Paco: sed's manual leaves a lot to be desired, google for sed examples and model off something close to what you want.  If you really want to learn sed get the o'reilly book on it
[22:11] <Edgan> gabeodess: that would explain the difference
[22:12] <jpds> gabeodess / Edgan: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/07/04/tcp-treason-uncloaked/#comment-5218
[22:12] <ilovefairuz> sreeraj_c: file a bug report, join #ubuntu-bugs for help with that
[22:12] <Edgan> gabeodess: du and find can only give you the sizes of things they can see
[22:12] <GrizzLyCRO> hey guys :)
[22:12] <GrizzLyCRO> i am talking from ubuntu :D
[22:12] <Edgan> gabeodess: where as df is looking at the superblock of the filesystem
[22:12] <The_Paco> Dulak, I hear that. I'm learning a lot about the books to buy/avoid (or trying).... mostly I think O'Reilly may be sabotaging the man projects :D
[22:12] <GrizzLyCRO> big tnx [FKU]Greycloak and trojan_spike
[22:13] <helpneeded> hi.....when i fix the IP no connection passes thru.....how do i fix it ?
[22:13] <gabeodess> Edgan: how do I make du find that stuff... or how do I find that stuff?
[22:13] <Edgan> gabeodess: Though I don't see anything in your df that would be another mount point
[22:13] <jpds> helpneeded: You're setting a static IP on a DHCP network?
[22:13] <trojan_spike> lol,, how'd u get it installed?
[22:13] <Sentynel> dajhorn: No dice, but thanks for the help anyway.
[22:13] <jrib> !away > hsa2
[22:13] <Edgan> gabeodess: Now I am thinking rootkit, or bug. Bug will probably go away with a reboot.
[22:14] <[FKU]Greycloak> np GrizzLyCRO, glad it worked
[22:14] <ilovefairuz> helpneeded: "fix" it how?
[22:14] <dajhorn> Sentynel: Welcome.  // This is why I love RAR.
[22:14] <GrizzLyCRO> greycloak gave me some guide, someone made guide to use some unofficial usb creator
[22:14] <blackxored> hey
[22:14] <helpneeded> i have assigned an IP for this machine on the network
[22:14] <blackxored> I have no sound
[22:14] <trojan_spike> cool,, nice job
[22:14] <GrizzLyCRO> really imsple, practically single click setup
[22:14] <jpds> helpneeded: It's probably clashing with another machine on the network.
[22:14] <gabeodess> Edgan: how could I figure out if rootkit is in the works?
[22:15] <GrizzLyCRO> well, i am off now, have to get new updates and drivers and everything, tnx again, good luck aeveryone and have fun !
[22:15] <helpneeded> no no....it has IP 192.168.0.105
[22:15] <Edgan> gabeodess: I am working on an answer
[22:15] <helpneeded> this is what i assigned to it on the network
[22:15] <gabeodess> Edgan: thanks
[22:15] <helpneeded> i fixed the same IP on the connection in the PC when I was using Windows
[22:16] <helpneeded> now on Ubuntu i am doing the same
[22:16] <helpneeded> but no connection is passing thru
[22:16] <helpneeded> when I remove the IP then it works
[22:17] <helpneeded> now it is working thru the assigned IP by DHCP
[22:18] <helpneeded> which should be the one I assigned on the network....but I wanted to fix it on the PC to make sure it is happening
[22:18] <[FKU]Greycloak> helpneeded: perhaps the router still has a DHCP reservation for that ip?
[22:18] <helpneeded> is there a command prompt on Ubuntu ?
[22:18] <[FKU]Greycloak> terminal
[22:18] <[FKU]Greycloak> applications/accessories
[22:18] <helpneeded> how do I ping?
[22:19] <Dulak> helpneeded: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[22:19] <helpneeded> yes yes
[22:19] <helpneeded> how do I ping ? so I know what IP the PC has now
[22:19] <Dulak> helpneeded: at the prompt you type "ping ipaddress"
[22:19] <[FKU]Greycloak> ping is only going to monitor packet loss
[22:19] <[FKU]Greycloak> ifconfig will show adapter settings
[22:20] <helpneeded> ah yes...i meant ipconfig
[22:20] <helpneeded> do i use ipconfig just like on windows ?
[22:20] <[FKU]Greycloak> yeah, its ifconfig in linux
[22:20] <Edgan> gabeodess: apt-get -y install debsums ; debsums -a 2>&1 | egrep FAILED | grep '\/bin'
[22:20] <lxLee> i used the startup disk creator program for ubuntu to make a startup disk on my usb but when i restarted my computer with my usb in it it showed an error
[22:20] <gabeodess> Edgan: what does that do?
[22:21] <Dulak> helpneeded: 'ifconfig' or 'ip link'
[22:21] <frobisher> To find IP address just googl  IP.
[22:21] <Edgan> gabeodess: It checks the checksums of all packages, looks for failures, and then only shows you one for files in bin paths
[22:21] <gabeodess> cool
[22:21] <kdc1956> wireless still not working here need help with it
[22:21] <Dulak> helpneeded: 'ip addr' even
[22:21] <helpneeded> google IP will give me the network IP
[22:21] <Edgan> gabeodess: rootkit's often only attack certain commands
[22:21] <helpneeded> not the local ip
[22:22] <Edgan> gabeodess: it isn't a definitive answer, but it could be useful if you get results
[22:22] <frobisher> oh
[22:23] <gabeodess> Edgan:http://pastie.org/1161563
[22:23] <gabeodess> http://pastie.org/1161563
[22:23] <ncfi1013_> anybody know of an online music player that i can store my music files on that i can then access from my cell phone?
[22:24] <Edgan> gabeodess: Does this have internet access?
[22:24] <Edgan> gabeodess: maybe a apt-get update, and try again
[22:24] <jpds> gabeodess: Do: sudo apt-get update
[22:25] <gabeodess> Edgan: yes... but the problem is probably that there is no space on the drive
[22:25] <Edgan> gabeodess: maybe
[22:25] <jrib> !away > versuchsanstalt
[22:26] <versuchsanstalt> ubottu: thank you.
[22:26] <Edgan> gabeodess: is lsof installed?
[22:26] <jrib> gabeodess: have you rebooted?  Did you check if that process in the find output was still running? Try apt-get clean to get some temporary space
[22:26] <jeand> bonsoir tt le monde
[22:26] <antIP> Any one else have problems with gwibber starting up? I installed ubuntu about 5 days ago. Gwibber was working fine until I restarted my pc this morning. Now Gwibber doesn't want to start up.
[22:26] <erUSUL> !hi | jeand
[22:26] <niko> !fr | jeand
[22:26] <Edgan> gabeodess: yeah, apt-get clean may help
[22:27] <gabeodess> Edgan: yeah, it looks like I have lsof
[22:27] <Edgan> gabeodess: ok, looking at comparing ps and lsof results. They tend to skip lsof
[22:28] <RockerBoy402> Anyone use an Asus mobo and successfully get lm-sensors working on it?
[22:28] <jrib> RockerBoy402: yes
[22:28] <gabeodess> Edgan: debsums is installing now
[22:28] <lxLee> I have a problem, i installed a live cd image into my usb using startup disk creator on ubuntu10.04 but when i try to restart the computer with the usb in it it says: "Unknown keyword in configuration file: gfxboot vesamenu.c32: not a COM32R image"  Anyone have any advice?
[22:29] <taget> Does anyone know how to change the color of the timesamp in IRSSI ?
[22:29] <jrib> taget: try #irssi or the documentation on irssi.org (reading the themes there is probably enough)
[22:29] <Edgan> gabeodess: cool
[22:29] <erUSUL> lxLee: try with unetbootin?
[22:29]  * versuchsanstalt wonders if it is because of its inhibitions that ubottu is saying Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)?
[22:29] <enzotib> where are channel logs?
[22:29] <RockerBoy402> jrib:  I'm having problems getting the lm-sensors to work on mine.  intel i7 processor, 8gb ddr3 ram.  board is a p7p55d-e Deluxe Hybrid with Turbo-V
[22:30] <erUSUL> !logs
[22:30] <taget> jrib: k, thanks
[22:30] <jrib> RockerBoy402: I didn't do anything special
[22:30] <gabeodess> Edgan: okay, debsums is installed
[22:30] <gabeodess> I guess
[22:30] <gabeodess> I mean that command you gave me ran.
[22:30] <Edgan> gabeodess: ok, try debsums -a 2>&1 | egrep FAILED | grep '\/bin'
[22:31] <gabeodess> Edgan: returns nothing
[22:31] <RockerBoy402> jrib:  hmm...i installed lm-sensors and when i did detect it didn't find them.  I even found a place that someone had asked about in the forums, where they used sensor-detect2 and it didn't find them using that method.  I'm at a wall.  I've posted on ubuntu forums and linuxforum to no avail
[22:31] <jrib> RockerBoy402: is your hardware too new?
[22:32] <Edgan> gabeodess: are you adverse to rebooting?
[22:32] <RockerBoy402> jrib:  here is my hardware >> http://picasaweb.google.com/rlsteelm...at=directlink#
[22:32]  * jrib agrees rebooting should be the next troubleshooting step
[22:32] <gabeodess> err... I'll talk to my higher up.
[22:32] <jrib> gabeodess: do you know what that process listed in the find output is?
[22:32] <enzotib> thank you erUSUL
[22:33] <real_ate> hi all! i'm finding this one hard to google for, I don't really know what to call it... my computer freezes/hangs on restart. Shutdown works perfectly but just when the computer should turn off during restart, it doesn't do anthing and stays on splash
[22:33] <erUSUL> enzotib: np
[22:33] <Edgan> gabeodess: also, apt-get install chkrootkit ; chkrootkit
[22:34] <real_ate> Is there anywhere that I can look for errors during shutdown? is there a log that is being written to at that time, or does it sound like a lower level bug
[22:34] <gabeodess> jrib: which process are you talking about?
[22:34] <real_ate> ?
[22:34] <jrib> gabeodess: the one in your find output
[22:35] <gabeodess> jrib: "sudo find / -size +2G" returned two paths both of which said "no such file or directory" and I don't know what they are.
[22:36] <jrib> gabeodess: can you paste that?
[22:36] <versuchsanstalt> taget: http://irssi.org/documentation/formats and have a look at /usr/share/irssi/themes/default.theme
[22:36] <jrib> gabeodess: probably unrelated but meh
[22:36] <RockerBoy402> jrib: do you think my hardware is to new?
[22:37] <jrib> RockerBoy402: I don't know
[22:37] <dakota> DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THIS ERROR MEANS!?     unable to stat './usr/share/man/man8' (which I was about to install)
[22:37] <gabeodess> jrib: http://pastie.org/1161620
[22:37] <RockerBoy402> jrib: okay thank you.
[22:37] <jrib> dakota: it means there's no ./usr/share/man/man8
[22:37] <dakota> HOW TO FIX!?
[22:37] <jrib> gabeodess: so what's the process with pid 25273 ?
[22:38] <digitalfiz> im trying to get my card reader to work in 10.04 can anyone help?
[22:38] <digitalfiz> its a 8-in-1
[22:38] <gabeodess> Edgan: Checking `bindshell'... INFECTED (PORTS:  1978)
[22:38] <digitalfiz> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 058f:9360 Alcor Micro Corp. 8-in-1 Media Card Reader
[22:38] <RockerBoy402> Anyone else know why an Asus mobo wouldn't detect sensors with lm-sensors
[22:39] <noric> if I use asci color code to make a font bold in the terminal, does that change the weight or just color of the font?
[22:39] <noric>  i.e. if I am playing a MUD in telnet in an xterm, does Bright alter the font itself? Or just the color?
[22:39] <dakota> jrib how do i fix this man8 error?
[22:39] <jrib> dakota: what exactly are you doing to get it?
[22:39] <gabeodess> jrib: pound@loadbalancer:~$ ps aux | grep 25273
[22:39] <gabeodess> pound    25293  0.0  0.1   2708   536 pts/0    S+   21:38   0:00 grep 25273
[22:39] <gabeodess> I'm guessing that's just me
[22:39] <gabeodess> sshed in
[22:39] <dakota> jrib I am trying to upate but can't...I am trying to install packages but can't nothing works...
[22:40] <jrib> gabeodess: that's just your grep, ok whatever I guess
[22:40] <gabeodess> oh right...
[22:40] <jrib> dakota: this is not "exactly"
[22:40] <gabeodess> Edgan: do you know what I am supposed to do with that infected whatever it is?
[22:41] <Edgan> gabeodess: let me look as something
[22:41] <Edgan> gabeodess: lsof -i -n
[22:42] <dakota> jrib whenever I try to install software it happens..
[22:42] <jrib> dakota: so pick a particular example and pastebin your command and full output
[22:42] <gabeodess> Edgan: I get a bunch of output when I run it as sudo
[22:43] <Edgan> gabeodess: ok, one sec
[22:43] <Edgan> gabeodess: lsof -i -n | grep LISTEN
[22:43] <gabeodess> yeah
[22:43] <dakota> jrib basically when I run "aptitude update" or aptitude install *insert app name here*
[22:44] <gabeodess> Edgan: 3 items
[22:44] <Edgan> gabeodess: ?
[22:44] <jrib> dakota: so pick a particular example and pastebin your command and full output
[22:44] <jrib> !away > hsa2|gone
[22:44] <dakota> whats the URL to pastbin?
[22:45] <gabeodess> Edgan: I see the ssh connection, a *:www for root, and a *:www for "nobody".
[22:45] <Edgan> gabeodess: hmm
[22:45] <dakota> jrib what is the URL to pastebin?
[22:45] <jrib> dakota: paste.ubuntu.com
[22:46] <dakota> jrib ok just give me a sec and I'll have a copy of the error..
[22:46] <The_Paco> sed reaction: "D:", this is complicated, what is this language?
[22:46] <Edgan> gabeodess: Review  lsof -n | egrep -v '\/$|\/proc|\/dev|UDP|TCP|inotify|socket$|pipe$|identify protocol|\/lib' | awk '{ print $9 }' | sort | uniq | less
[22:46] <Edgan> gabeodess: look for anything suspicious
[22:47] <gabeodess> Edgan: I don't know what suspicious looks like, but okay.
[22:47] <Edgan> gabeodess: Stuff running out of /tmp or /var/tmp would be one example, say /var/tmp/bash
[22:48] <Edgan> gabeodess: ls -al /tmp /var/tmp
[22:48] <gabeodess> Edgan: nothing.  bin, home, sbin, and usr.
[22:49] <gabeodess> Edgan: drwxrwxrwt  2 root root 4096 Mar  9  2008 .ICE-unix
[22:49] <gabeodess> drwxrwxrwt  2 root root 4096 Mar  9  2008 .X11-unix
[22:49] <Edgan> gabeodess: Oh, another possibility is that some program is holding the file descriptor of a large file open, but it is in the deleted state.   lsof -n | grep -i delete
[22:49] <gabeodess> in /tmp
[22:50] <dakota> jrib HERE"S THE PASTEBIN!     http://paste.ubuntu.com/494430/
[22:51] <gabeodess> Edgan: I think we just nailed it...
[22:51] <jrib> dakota: check dmesg for interesting things
[22:51] <gabeodess> 14212308992
[22:51] <gabeodess> that would be bytes right?
[22:51] <Edgan> yes
[22:51] <dakota> jrib ?
[22:51] <jrib> gabeodess: I'm curious, what's in it?
[22:51] <Edgan> gabeodess: 13.2gb :)
[22:52] <Edgan> gabeodess: restart whatever process is holding it open
[22:52] <Edgan> gabeodess: I am guessing pound
[22:52] <dakota> jrib ok I did... a big long list of the same error over and over..
[22:52] <jrib> dakota: we can't see what you see
[22:52] <gabeodess> Edgan: http://pastie.org/1161620
[22:53] <gabeodess> Edgan: those are the logs that I've been deleting because they get too big...
[22:53] <Edgan> gabeodess: ah, there you go :)
[22:53] <dakota> jrib I'll put it on pastebin..
[22:53] <gabeodess> Edgan: I guess I didn't delete them good enough
[22:53] <gabeodess> Edgan: so how do I get rid of those?
[22:53] <Edgan> gabeodess: restart the process, and it will handle itself
[22:54] <gabeodess> I see
[22:54] <gabeodess> wow.
[22:54] <gabeodess> so If I keep deleting these logs, I also need to restart the process each time I do that?
[22:54] <jrib> gabeodess: well either fix the thing it's complaining about or tell it not to log them
[22:55] <gabeodess> jrib: right... but supposing I'm lazy.
[22:55] <jrib> gabeodess: this is the lazy way
[22:55] <jrib> the second one is anyway
[22:55] <gabeodess> jrib: yes.
[22:56] <dakota> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/494436/
[22:56] <frosty`> i've got pulseaudio set up as a remote sink over the lan, but the keyboard volume controls on the source do not change the volume coming out of the sink...
[22:56] <Edgan> gabeodess: yes, normally logrotate does this for you, and it does a kill -HUP on apache, as the classic example.
[22:56] <Edgan> gabeodess: logrotate will also compress for you
[22:56] <Edgan> gabeodess: and let old stuff be deleted
[22:56] <gabeodess> Edgan: thank you so much for your time.
[22:56] <Edgan> gabeodess: you are welcome
[22:57] <gabeodess> Edgan: huge help.
[22:57] <dakota> http://paste.ubuntu.com/494436/
[22:57] <bcurtiswx> hey all, how would I link my /home/<name>/Music folder (remote computer) to my current one?
[22:58] <jrib> dakota: you need to run fsck.  I must leave now however
[22:59] <dakota> jrib fsck gives errors about the files system not being ext2
[22:59] <th0r> bcurtiswx: you could use fusesmb to mount the remote directory using the local dir as a mount point
[22:59] <digitalfiz> so I have a Alcor Micro Corp. 8-in-1 Media Card Reader and the usb port works on it but when i stick my memory stick in it, i get nothing but it works fine in windows seems like from what i can tell its a problem with ehci_module
[23:00] <bcurtiswx> th0r, fusesmb, im guessing it's an easy to google thing?
[23:00] <th0r> it is in the repos, and the man page is pretty self-explanatory
[23:00] <faction918> Anyone have any luck getting a droid (Droid X) to show up and tranfer in Rhythmbox? I attempted to add a .is_auido_player (.is_media_player & .is_music_player) to the root directory. I can get it to show up in MTP mode but can't transfer audio files. Does not show up at all in USB mode. Suggestions?
[23:00] <bcurtiswx> th0r, OK, ty
[23:00] <th0r> bcurtiswx: sudo apt-get install fusesmb
[23:00] <jkazana> bcurtiswx: I use sshfs to mount up remote file systems on my boc
[23:01] <CoffeeIV> I have a recent ( installed in January ) Ubuntu, which has the encrypted home partition thing.  I have the long number/key that you are supposed to be able to use to get into it.  The user has left the company, and I want to boot with a live Ubuntu CD, mount the encrypted drive, and back it up.  Surely there are directions on how to do this somewhere ?  My google searching is failing
[23:01] <beaker_> Is it safe that this is the only rule that i have enabled in my firewall? ufw allow from 192.168.0.0/24 - - I just want local lan traffic only, nothing else
[23:01] <jkazana> dodo apt-get install sshfs
[23:03] <mistergibson> I cannot get Ubuntu 10.10 Desktop,Notebook, or Server booting into the installer for love or money.  9.10 boots fine - can anyone provide some help w/ this?
[23:03] <mistergibson> err. 10.04
[23:03] <mistergibson> sorry
[23:03] <Delvien> ALSA problem. when i try to access alsamixer I get "cannot open mixer: no such file or directory, but I can in fact run it as root. The main issue is that I have no sound whatsoever (I am not using pulseaudio)
[23:03] <bcurtiswx> jkazana, is there a good place to read up on sshfs, or the man pages are pretty sufficient
[23:03] <mistergibson> Just wondering if someone knows a work around.  Otherwise, I'll have to install karmic, and upgrade that way
[23:04] <jkazana> sure just install it and do a "man sshfs", if it's not 4u just apt-get "purge"
[23:05] <jkazana> I like cuz it's like using ssh and it's crypted
[23:05] <bbigras> Anyone know if there's a ppa for the new flash binairies?
[23:05] <bcurtiswx> jkazana, OK thy
[23:06] <versuchsanstalt> i tried to shrink and move a partition using gparted, which was interrupted due to a power problem. i can not find anything wrong with the file system. as i understand it, there was a huge mass of data copied twice in the process, the second time being interrupted by my powerline adventure. QUESTION: how can i check if the file systems and partition table is ok?
[23:06] <muppetbaby> hey i got ubun and i doon't know how to play cd disk games
[23:07] <dakota_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/494436/
[23:07] <dakota_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/494436/
[23:07] <muppetbaby> can anybody help me
[23:07] <EvilPhoenix> !repeat | dakota_
[23:08] <EvilPhoenix> anyways, is there any way to use rsync to sync an entire folder and its directory structure while specifying something that is NOT to be downloaded?
[23:08] <jkazana> !ask | muppetbaby
[23:08] <dakota_> /usr/share/man/man8 error
[23:08] <mistergibson> Is there a minimal CD image (less than 650MB) ?
[23:08] <frobisher> exchange.com
[23:08] <muppetbaby> how do you play windows games on ubun
[23:09] <dakota_> with wine
[23:09] <muppetbaby> whats wine
[23:09] <jkazana> muppetbaby: maybe try wine -- sorry didn't see ur fist question
[23:10] <dakota_> muppetbaby you install wine and then you can run some windows apps through wine, or you may want to try a virtual machine and install windows inside Ubuntu to play your games.
[23:10] <renedox> muppetbaby: before installing wine, check to see if your game is supported by them
[23:10] <pedahzur> Googling and reading docs seems to indicate to the negative, but it is possible, with LVM2, to take atomic snapshots of multiple LVs?
[23:10] <muppetbaby> i can get the file to come up but i don't know why it won't let me play disk games or music cds
[23:10] <renedox> muppetbaby: appdb.winehq.com you'd want either gold or platinum for minimum hassle
[23:11] <frank__> hey
[23:11] <muppetbaby> i got ubun 9.10
[23:11] <renedox> muppetbaby: wine should still work on 9.10
[23:12] <muppetbaby> where do i get this wine
[23:12] <renedox> winehq.com
[23:12] <NoTownKasper> Hopefully this will be a fairly simple question to answer, but can someone point me in the direction of a PS1 Emulator that actually works with 10.04 without having to use jaunty's libraries and force things?
[23:12] <renedox> er
[23:12] <dakota_> in the software center..
[23:12] <renedox> winehq.org
[23:12] <versuchsanstalt> does a successful fdisk run on a partition prove that the partition table is ok?
[23:12] <NoTownKasper> PSX fails with anything but the default video plugin...and the default video plugin is beyond nasty.
[23:13] <renedox> dakota_: the software centre version is out of date
[23:13] <lui_> mi
[23:13] <lui_> naruto
[23:18] <NoTownKasper> Wow it got quiet all of a sudden. lol
[23:18] <thune3> versuchsanstalt: it means it exists, and is formatted properly. It doesn't mean much else.
[23:19] <versuchsanstalt> thune3: yeah, i thought something like that.
[23:19] <Kulik1> Hi, I am installing kubuntu 10.04 and the installer took forever to start, so I pressed ESC and console appears saying unable to open /dev/sda, unable to open /dev/sdb, unable to open /dev/mapper/isw_somethingsomething_Volume0. Volume0 is my intel matrix fakeraid
[23:19] <Kulik1> I thought ubuntu 10.04 was already fine with fake raids, it's in the release notes, any tips?
[23:20] <versuchsanstalt> thune3: thank you for pointing it out. do you have an idea how to test everything involved, i am guessing: partition table and every fs? fs would be fsck, but fdisk shouldnt get me very far with testing, i think...
[23:23] <thune3> versuchsanstalt: fsck (if repairing) can actually make destruction permanent, in cases of mismatching parition table information. A way to do a basic check is to mount read only.
[23:24] <versuchsanstalt> thune3: thank you for reminding me, great.
[23:24] <versuchsanstalt> jes
[23:24] <versuchsanstalt> j/y/s
[23:24] <lui_> bill
[23:25] <Dug_> hi, can someone please give me a small hand with how to get Java installed and working on Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit please ?
[23:25] <Dug_> i cant seem to get it working properly :(
[23:25] <lui_> italiy
[23:25] <Dug_> anyone please ?
[23:26] <faction918> Dug: give someone a min or two
[23:26] <Dug_> ok, thanks
[23:27] <pfifo> what is in the /sys directory?
[23:27] <dotnetted> hey all - anyone know how to add a transponder settings file (like the ones in /usr/share/dvb/dvb-s/) so a satellite can be added to the usable list for dvb-utils?
[23:27] <pedahzur> pfifo: System related information.
[23:27] <pfifo> pedahzur, like what? (I just wrote my first kernel module and its talking about /sys)
[23:29] <pedahzur> pfifo: Various parts of the kernel publish information about themselves in there.  E.g.: 'cat /sys/fs/ecryptfs/version' on my system gives "375"
[23:30] <pfifo> pedahzur, whats the difference between /proc and /sys
[23:31] <Dug_> Anyone know how i can Update Java for my Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit please ? i got it installed and working but visit the java website and it says "Java Update Available" and thats all, i cant update my java for some reason anyone please ?
[23:31] <pedahzur> pfifo: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/proc-vs-sys-332635/
[23:31] <faction918_> Dug_: I actaully was looking into it because I thought you meant for a fresh install, then the power went out... FAIL!
[23:32] <Dug_> ?
[23:32] <faction918_> but, Dug_, I don't think I know how to update java on ubuntu... I have never run across this!
[23:33] <Dug_> ahh ok :/
[23:33] <Dug_> i just cant find or see any update function
[23:33] <Dug_> and java site keeps telling me there is an update available but doesnt give me an option how to update or tell me how
[23:33] <pfifo> pedahzur, lol that basicly said 'nothing is different', thanks for the info
[23:33] <ivanrad> hey all
[23:33] <Dug_> and i run the update manager in ubuntu and nothing :/
[23:33] <cc12> hey
[23:33] <faction918_> Dug_: is it Java telling you there is an update or Ubuntu?
[23:33] <ivanrad> i recently formatted my SSD to ext4
[23:33] <cc12> hey ivanrad
[23:33] <ivanrad> and now my windows wont read it
[23:33] <Dug_> its the java website telling me there is an update
[23:33] <pedahzur> pfifo: Yeah, pretty much...sorry I can't be more helpful.
[23:33] <ivanrad> can u guys help me format it to Fat
[23:34] <obi_> hi all, having a problem booting ubuntu since this morning. "phy0 rt2x00lib_probe_dev: error failed to initialize hw" is all i get on boot. does anyone have any ideas?? thanks.
[23:34] <pedahzur> ivanrad: Do you want to save the data on it?
[23:34] <faction918_> ah.
[23:34] <ivanrad> no
[23:34] <ivanrad> not at all
[23:34] <zylogz80> has anyone successfully used 10.04 on a Dell Studio 15z? I'm having a couple problems, the most serious being I cannot wake it from sleep.
[23:34] <pedahzur> ivanrad: mkfs.vfat /path/to/device
[23:34] <acovrig> why does `nc -l 3333|emacs -batch -l dunnet>test.sock` only take 1 command then die?
[23:34] <pfifo> pedahzur, well i know /proc really well so I get what /s/ 'should' be for
[23:34] <ivanrad> im on windows
[23:34] <pedahzur> ivanrad: As root.
[23:34] <ivanrad> im on windows
[23:34] <pfifo> s/\/s\//sys/
[23:34] <ivanrad> i want to do it from windows
[23:35] <EvilPhoenix> ivanrad, try asking in ##windows
[23:35] <ivanrad> umm
[23:35] <pedahzur> ivanrad: You should be able to right-click on it from the Explorer, and click "Format."
[23:35] <Dug_> apparently the latest version is "java is 1.6.0_21" and im on 1.6.0.20
[23:35] <ivanrad> its not showing up there
[23:35] <EvilPhoenix> ivanrad, /join ##windows
[23:35] <faction918_> Dug_: my only suggestion would be to install the lastest version from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[23:35] <EvilPhoenix> ask in that channel
[23:35] <trojan_spike> Dud_, http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t72809.html
[23:36] <faction918_> but java has always been finiky for me, it finally just works in 10.04
[23:36] <obi_> bump
[23:36] <pfifo> ivanrad, microsoft dosent support fat anymore
[23:36] <faction918_> sorry I can't really help more...
[23:36] <LjL> pfifo: uh?
[23:36] <Dug_> hmm this is gonna be a noob question cus im still kinda new to linux and learning but which linux one do i need to download and install they all say they are for redhat and suse
[23:36] <LjL> pfifo: i thought there even was 64-bit FAT, ExFat or something...
[23:37] <ivanrad> in netbook remix can i format the drive without doing all that sudo shit
[23:37] <Dug_> im guessing i would need the "Linux x64" since im 64-bit does it matter it says it sofr redhat and suse ?
[23:37] <iceroot> Dug_: download what exactly?
[23:37] <IdleOne> !language | ivanrad
[23:37] <Dug_> Java
[23:37] <ivanrad> ok
[23:37] <LjL> Dug_: how's about you ignore that update request and just stay with the repository-provided version?
[23:37] <renedox> Dug_: look for a .deb file
[23:37] <iceroot> !java | Dug_
[23:37] <ivanrad> but will it be easy'
[23:37] <sjefen6> are there an ubuntu 10.04 equvalent to "echo uinput >> /etc/modules"?
[23:37] <iceroot> Dug_: java is in the repos
[23:37] <trojan_spike> Dug_. u want .DEB packages..
[23:37] <Dug_> becuase the repository version apparently has an update :s
[23:37] <renedox> Dug_: but you might be better of using the built in apt from ubuntu
[23:37] <obi_> anybody know if i can boot again without loosing all my info?
[23:38] <ivanrad> ?
[23:38] <thune3> Dug_: if you have it installed through partner repository, just wait until ubuntu updates it, point releases are minor and should make very little difference.
[23:38] <LjL> Dug_: yeah but who cares, is my opinion - i'd keep it unupdated and wait for an ubuntu update :P
[23:38] <EvilPhoenix> !gparted | ivanrad, gparted is an easier-to-use partitioner program for ubuntu's things
[23:38] <Dug_> lol
[23:38] <Dug_> hmm so this update will reach my ubuntu update list soon ?
[23:38] <iceroot> Dug_: what version you want exactly?
[23:39] <obi_> cant boot ubuntu... can anyone help?
[23:39] <gabeodess> ed
[23:39] <redvil> anyone here know how to configure conky so that it will run after login?
[23:39] <pfifo> does linux-2.6.32-24-generic support forced module unloading?
[23:39] <LjL> Dug_: well i can't promise it will be "soon", i don't really know, but even if it isn't, eh. waiting a while pays off (unless perhaps it's some important security update, which i doubt) compared to the chores of installing something not from the repos over something that is.
[23:39] <Dug_> well apparently the updated version to mine is java is 1.6.0_21
[23:39] <goddard> redvil tons of tutorials for that man
[23:40] <theyranos> anyone know a good reference for expect?
[23:40] <Dug_> i installed it through th epacket manager was just curious why im not getting hte updated one
[23:40] <redvil> goddard: been googling for almost an hour now..my google foo not that good
[23:40] <iceroot> !info sun-java6-bin
[23:40] <dotnetted> anyone know a good channel for dvb-s scanning questions (dvb-apps/linuxtv) ?
[23:40] <Cpt_Zyph> i'm trying to find a good artical on how the ubuntu client (i.e. on my laptop) would work with my CentOS server ..
[23:40] <obi_> hi all, having a problem booting ubuntu since this morning. "phy0 rt2x00lib_probe_dev: error failed to initialize hw" is all i get on boot. does anyone have any ideas?? thanks.
[23:40] <redvil> goddard: just started using linux 3 mos ago..not yet at home with it
[23:40] <Kendalja> hello
[23:41] <Cpt_Zyph> i'm new to linux etc but i do like what i have seen with ubuntu and want to try it over fedora..
[23:41] <Sydens> halloo
[23:41] <goddard> redvil i know all you have to do is put the delay let me see if i can find my script then
[23:41] <redvil> goddard: thanks..much appreciated
[23:42] <Dug_> hmm ok, thanks for the info then guys
[23:42] <SpaceGhostC2C> How would I locate and copy all {jpg,bmp} files to a certain folder? I was considering rsync, but didn't know how to make it only backup pictures.
[23:42] <Dug_> i think i will wait a while and see if it automatically updates in ubuntu updater sometime
[23:42] <goddard> redvil tried this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205865
[23:43] <Dug_> its atleast working right now so ill hang on a while for the update, thanks again guys :)
[23:43] <redvil> goddard: will try it now..thanks again
[23:43] <goddard> redvil or this http://laudecioliveira.org/blog/?p=223
[23:43] <Cpt_Zyph> when is the next destroy of ubuntu planed for release ?
[23:43] <obi_> anyone?
[23:44] <know-nothing> file:///home/kimb/Bureau/Screenshot.png
[23:44] <Cpt_Zyph> i woudl like to buy some books but dont want to buy it right before a new distro pops out
[23:44] <cc12> when ubuntu replacing windows??
[23:44] <zylogz80> has anyone successfully used 10.04 on a Dell Studio 15z? I'm having a couple problems, the most serious being I cannot wake it from sleep.
[23:44] <know-nothing> hi
[23:44] <BluesKaj> Cpt_Zyph, sometime in october
[23:44] <obi_> hi all, having a problem booting ubuntu since this morning. "phy0 rt2x00lib_probe_dev: error failed to initialize hw" is all i get on boot. does anyone have any ideas?? thanks.
[23:44] <Cpt_Zyph> BluesKaj aaa that soon.. i'm glad i asked i'll stick to online guides then until oct ish..
[23:45] <bastidrazor> Cpt_Zyph: don't by anything use this guide:  http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[23:45] <Cpt_Zyph> BluesKaj is it going to be the release that dosn't use GNOME or is that 11 .. and thanks for yoru time btw
[23:45] <know-nothing> file:///home/kimb/Bureau/Screenshot.png
[23:45] <cc12> yeah same problems with 10.04 lts zylogz80 ..graphics though
[23:45] <Cpt_Zyph> Bestidrazor thank you for that link
[23:45] <majorscurvy> has anyone got an hp dv2xxx anything? i cannot install 10.04 on it :(
[23:45] <bastidrazor> know-nothing: what are you trying to do?
[23:45] <BluesKaj> Cpt_Zyph, you can find out for sure in #ubuntu+1
[23:45] <bastidrazor> Cpt_Zyph: you're welcome
[23:45] <Jordan_U> know-nothing: Do you have a support question?
[23:46] <know-nothing> yes
[23:46] <know-nothing> i have a screenshot
[23:46] <know-nothing> it's show my problem
[23:46] <bastidrazor> !imagebin | know-nothing
[23:46] <cc12> is ubuntu replacing windows.....
[23:46] <IdleOne> !ot | cc12
[23:47] <know-nothing> i do it
[23:47] <Jordan_U> know-nothing: We can't access that screenshot, the link you gave is just a path on your computer.
[23:47] <obi_> hi all, having a problem booting ubuntu since this morning. "phy0 rt2x00lib_probe_dev: error failed to initialize hw" is all i get on boot. does anyone have any ideas?? thanks.
[23:47] <zylogz80> cc12, hmmm. strange. i'm shocked really. I figured a box using all free drivers would work fine. I'll try 10.10 beta and see if fares better
[23:47] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | know-nothing
[23:47] <kneaux> how do i run a windows python script in a wine environment?
[23:47] <cc12> yeah might have to do that as well zylogz80
[23:47] <jeand> bonsoir
[23:48] <IdleOne> !fr | jeand
[23:48] <akito3379> hello
[23:48] <Tempus_Fugit> does anyone know a way to download the contents of this page I.e chapters into a readable that I can browse offline?? http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[23:48] <AGreyCrane> I've hooked up a second monitor to my computer, how do I go about getting ubutu to use it in the gui? (Ubuntu 10.04)  I does not show up in the "Monitors" menu
[23:49] <know-nothing> hi http://imagebin.org/114263
[23:49] <theyranos> Tempus_Fugit: There's a "Download as PDF" link on the left
[23:49] <majorscurvy> AGreyCrane, do you have nvidia drivers? i might be able to help if you use the nvidia driver. if not, i don't really know :D
[23:49] <know-nothing> jordan_U : hi http://imagebin.org/114263
[23:50] <Tempus_Fugit> theyranos: hmmm I was looking for a link and didnt see one ty
[23:50] <aperson> !flash > aperson
[23:50] <obi_> hi all, having a problem booting ubuntu since this morning. "phy0 rt2x00lib_probe_dev: error failed to initialize hw" is all i get on boot. does anyone have any ideas?? thanks.
[23:50] <know-nothing> Jordan_U : hi http://imagebin.org/114263
[23:50] <digitalfiz> can anyone tell me how to get write access to a hfs+ journaled partition?
[23:50] <AGreyCrane> majorscurvy, no I'm not :(
[23:50] <aperson> where is the ideal location to manually install flash to?
[23:51] <digitalfiz> i see lots of pages saying do this and that and it should work but no matter what i only get read access
[23:51] <Jordan_U> digitalfiz: Not possible unfortunately. You need to disable journaling for write support.
[23:51] <thune3> obi_: your ralink driver has worked OK before through reboots?
[23:51] <digitalfiz> Jordan_U, the partition has stuff i dont want to lose will that mess it up?
[23:51] <renedox> obi_: just did a quick google, looks like you have to upgrade your kernel
[23:51] <majorscurvy> AGreyCrane, sorryyyy. I was able to make it work with nvidia. you have the button on your keyboard (usually Fn + F4) that is used to refresh the monitors?
[23:51] <cc12> has anyone tried 10.0 beta??
[23:52] <digitalfiz> Jordan_U, i dont mind doing that if i can undo it later. i just need to copy 1 file over to fix a boot error
[23:52] <Jordan_U> digitalfiz: No, though it will make the filesystem less robust to power failures and the like.
[23:52] <Jordan_U> digitalfiz: You can undo it later.
[23:52] <AGreyCrane> majorscurvy, nah, it isnt a laptop, so I don't have a function key
[23:52] <iceroot> cc12: #ubuntu+1
[23:52] <kakazza> Hi, is there something like a "small" Version of Ubuntu for 1GB USB sticks? I really don't need much but grub, shell and a few other basic things. But I'd like to stick with ubuntu
[23:52] <digitalfiz> Jordan_U, can i do that with hfsutils or do i gotta boot from the osx cd :/
[23:52] <volfied> anyone have any idea why my Wacom tablet is sometimes causing X to crash when i switch my KVM over to my Ubuntu box?
[23:52] <volfied> Xorg.4.log:(EE) Wacom Graphire4 4x5: Error reading wacom device : No such device
[23:52] <Tempus_Fugit> theyranos: hmm ok well the download as pdf only includes the index....any ideas??
[23:52] <obi_> thanks thune3. how do i upgrade the kernel if i cant boot? from usb disk i have?
[23:52] <Jordan_U> digitalfiz: Though you may need to use OSX to disable journaling in the first place...
[23:53] <digitalfiz> Jordan_U, i have the install dvd i can boot from just takes forever to boot from the dvd lol thanks ill try that
[23:53] <[thor]> kakazza: have you looked at the netbook versions?
[23:53] <majorscurvy> AGreyCrane, i see.. hm. it doesnt show up at all in the Monitors window? even greyed out/disabled?
[23:53] <obi_> ubuntu worked fine until this morning.
[23:53] <AGreyCrane> I'm just seeing the primary
[23:53] <AGreyCrane> nothing about the secondary at all
[23:54] <thune3> obi_: renedox recommends kernel upgrade. can you answer my question, was ralink driver working OK before even across reboots?
[23:54] <majorscurvy> wow usually when i plug a second monitor in it automatically picks it up :/
[23:54] <realubot> I don't get any audio running this command: mplayer "http://streamer2.xmc.se/rockkanalen" I don't understand why. The URL works using it directly within Firefox for example. Why?
[23:54] <obi_> ubuntu worked perfect until this morning.
[23:54] <bastidrazor> know-nothing: is your native language french? i can not read your error message.
[23:54] <know-nothing> no
[23:54] <Jordan_U> know-nothing: Why were you trying to install form a .deb file rather than using apt or Ubuntu Software Center?
[23:54] <volfied> goshdarnit. did i miss anyone responding to that?
[23:54] <anygivenname> is it possible to setup remote desktop on Ubuntu & connect to it using a Windows PC ?
[23:54] <know-nothing> it' the same problem
[23:54] <Paddy_NI> anygivenname, yes
[23:54] <renedox> anygivenname: yes, try something tightvnc
[23:54] <know-nothing> with ubuntu
[23:55] <Guest70637> hot
[23:55] <Guest70637> bakc
[23:55] <kakazza> [thor], will do now. The netbook version will just work fine if I want to reinstall grub after winodws killed my boot manager, right?
[23:55] <renedox> something like*
[23:55] <Guest70637> what
[23:55] <redvil> goddard: it works now..thanks again
[23:55] <Paddy_NI> kakazza, yep
[23:55] <know-nothing> Jordan_U: it's the same problem with ubuntu
[23:55] <obi_> thune3 yes
[23:55] <majorscurvy> anygivenname, i cannot give you a really detailed answer but i tried and it was really hard, and i couldn't do it. if that helps at all lol.
[23:55] <Jordan_U> know-nothing: With Ubuntu Software Center you mean?
[23:56] <akito3379> is it possible to create a podcast with Ubuntu?
[23:56] <know-nothing> Jordan_u: yes if i have understand
[23:56] <Guest70637> Hy Alll
[23:56] <theyranos> Tempus_Fugit: Next thing to try I guess is a recursive wget. http://ow.ly/2EUJY
[23:56] <goddard> redvil no problem
[23:56] <kakazza> http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/get-ubuntu/download suggests "1. Insert a USB stick with at least 2GB of free space"
[23:56] <anygivenname> i have a hostname on dyndns & is working when i connect to a windows pc but when i try to conect to ubuntu pc it is not working
[23:56] <Guest70637> what dist on time
[23:56] <obi_> renedox thanks. how do i do a kernel upgrade?
[23:57] <know-nothing> Jordan_U: yes if i have understand
[23:57] <Tempus_Fugit> theyranos: ok I will try that
[23:57] <know-nothing> Jordan_U: yes if i have understand you
[23:57] <nogo> what's the difference between synaptic and ubuntu software center?
[23:57] <Guest70637> backtrack4 final
[23:57] <SaintSapphire> anygivenname: Does it respond if you try to connect via localhost?
[23:57] <Guest70637> use not' thing
[23:58] <Guest70637> donwlaod fire fox new
[23:58] <Guest70637> i not understad
[23:58] <nogo> Guest70637, who is the author of backtrack?
[23:58] <know-nothing> Jordan_U: when i do an update the problem show in every installation
[23:58] <akito3379> Is it possible to create a podcast with ubuntu?
[23:59] <Guest70637> version ubuntu 8
[23:59] <bastidrazor> Guest70637: you should go to #backtrack-linux for backtrack 4 support
[23:59] <anygivenname> no even when trying to connect to it using a windows pc on the same network...it does not connect
[23:59] <Guest70637> thanks informasi