=== `mOOse` is now known as m00se === zeuss is now known as Mr_Zeuss === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [08:37] hi [09:42] why plugins use so much ram in xfce? [09:42] keyboard plugin 15 megs, etc [09:42] to what are you comparing? [10:42] Sysi, to nothing. I compare to common sense. Since I don't believe simple keyboard plugin must use 15 megs of RAM [11:16] nikolam: compare to gnome/kde plugins [12:36] i'll have the iso downloaded shortly of xubuntu 10.04 but i dont know how to burn it on windows 7 [12:36] im using a dvd+r for the image burning [12:36] infrarecorder [12:36] will imgburn work just the same? [12:37] imgburn is what i have atm [12:37] could do, infrarecorder is the only one I know [12:37] is there a wiki for this question? [12:37] or even help on the xubuntu website? [12:38] not for windows, you could try ##windows though [12:38] !burning [12:38] CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, brasero, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto [12:38] what do you select with infrarecorder? [12:38] the iso? [12:38] yes [12:38] for a dvd burn [12:38] then choose burn to disk, or right click [12:38] that simple? [12:39] should be [12:39] i know speed being low is important [12:39] if you try to drag and drop it should prompt you [12:39] i might try imgburn anyways [12:39] depends really, I get the torrent and burn at full speed [12:42] ok i think i might just have it verify after burning [12:42] i'll just go with whatever i try [12:42] sounds good [12:42] this laptop i want to use it with might just really suck [12:42] if you have a usb stick you can use unetbootin [12:42] i really want something better [12:42] yeah.. like i said it really sucks [12:43] provided your computer boots from usb [12:43] i dont even think it boots from the disc drive properly [12:43] heh [12:43] stupid gateway [12:44] i tried to boot puppy with this computer and it didnt work, worked fine on the other one though [12:44] ok [12:44] im going to assume the same will happen with xubuntu [12:45] is there a way to change ubuntu into xubuntu? [12:45] well if bootoptions dont work out, there is the alternate installer [12:45] !bootoptions [12:45] For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions [12:45] im running ubuntu 10.04 right now [12:45] jrmy, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [12:46] jrmy, then choose from the login screen [12:46] from the login screen? [12:46] any of the -desktop packages can do that. [12:46] rhetorical btw [12:46] kubuntu, edubuntu, ubuntustudio, xubuntu, lubuntu [12:46] so i'd have both? [12:47] or as many as you want [12:47] i might try that [12:47] then just choose which one to log in with each time, or set one as default [12:47] and if i dont want one of them anymore? [12:47] a lot less hassle then installing a whole new iso [12:48] i'll agree [12:48] then !purekde !puregnome !purexubuntu (not sure about last) [12:48] !purexfce [12:48] !pure uninstalls? [12:48] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:48] it gives instructions [12:48] !purekde [12:49] If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » [12:49] for example^^ [12:49] psychocats.net should have the purexfce one [12:49] ie xubuntu [12:50] ok so basically the command interprets "to have this only" [12:50] well the webpage links to instructions on how to remove the other DE [12:50] what is DE? [12:50] and KDE [12:50] you can copy and paste the instructions into a terminal and then voila [12:51] GNOME, KDE, LXDE, XFCE4, etc [12:51] ok [12:51] not simply a window manager, but a suite of applications as well [12:51] (desktop enviroment) [12:52] like xubuntu uses thunar instead of nautilus as a file manager, etc. [12:52] ok [12:52] lubuntu has chromium as the default browser instead of firefox [12:52] well im installing xubuntu now [12:52] ok [12:52] and xubuntu? [12:53] firefox I'd guess [12:53] you can easily switch that out though [12:53] ok [12:53] chromium-browser is the package name [12:54] ok so if i have xubuntu loaded upon login are other files still the same? [12:55] sure [12:55] if by other files you mean stuff in home [12:55] ok i'd have to clarify that [12:55] and yes i mean that [12:55] yep [12:55] ok [12:55] i'll also find out once i do so [12:55] in future you might consider a separate /home partition [12:55] heh [12:56] well i need to eat [12:56] oh yeah, nothing to find out, it'll be the same [12:56] ok, good luck [12:56] ok [12:56] yep getting weak [12:56] havent aten in 12+ hours [12:56] ate* [12:56] see you later [13:02] hello! anybody knows why i can't open a terminal on the desktop? i'm using lucid lynx Xubuntu? when i try it says i have no permission [13:04] actually it says : Le changement de répertoire « /home/jean/Bureau » a échoué (Permission non accordée). [13:04] if anyone got a clue, thank you =) [13:05] awesome [13:05] french [13:05] :] [13:05] strep: what you're actually doing? [13:06] Sysi nothing in particular, i just wanted to install commercial repository [13:07] to then install skype [13:07] i found another way to install fine, works fine, but no way to open the terminal anymore with right click on desktop [13:09] ok, time to try xubuntu [13:09] brb [13:10] whats the command to log out? [13:12] does xubuntu use gnome-terminal? [13:13] xfce4-terminal [13:13] whats that one like? [13:13] very much like the gnome-terminal. [13:14] better :P [13:16] as long as i can customize it like how you can with the gnome terminal then i'll like it [13:16] can you customize gnome terminal? [13:16] yep [13:16] as in make profiles for it [13:16] have a nice day ;] [13:17] there's no *profiles* for xfce4-terminal, but you can adjust the colors [13:17] i liek how you can make the background transparent so you can see your desktop background [13:18] how about changing the font and cursor type? [13:18] easy [13:18] good [13:19] now only if i can log out of ubuntu so i can login with xubuntu [13:19] do you know, you can make all this "customizing" even on very basic xterm, exept maybe opacity [13:31] back [13:31] ok so with ubuntu installed as well does it cause xubuntu to run slower? [13:32] no [13:32] ok so i can have both [13:33] i might delete the ubuntu files [13:33] but idk if that matters [13:33] not really, but easily accomplished [13:34] i do liek xubuntu alot [13:34] from little of what ive seen [13:34] :D [13:43] bazhang: you there anymore? [13:44] jrmy, sorry, yes [13:45] is there channels that are specific states for xubuntu liek ubuntu? [13:45] oh loco channels? [13:45] probably all are okay in those, afaik [13:46] lots fewer users, so less need to segregate by DE [13:46] !loco [13:46] Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams [13:47] there's a link on that page to the full list [13:50] so is xubuntu sorta like its own thing or is it of more of a connection with ubuntu liek as far as community and development? [13:51] part of the whole community [13:51] its the same stuff underneath, after all [13:52] same repos, etc [13:52] ok [13:52] so basically #ubuntu-us-mi is the place to go for me [13:53] should do, though here is fine as well :) [13:54] ok [13:55] really depends if any of the users in my state use xubuntu [13:55] though i wouldnt think there is to many differences [14:31] now i just need to get a new power adapter and maybe a new battery [14:32] i dont know why my friend bought a power adapter that was less then needed on both voltage and current [14:32] * jrmy shakes his head === IdleOne is now known as IdleOp [18:56] how do i put the terminal on the top panel? [18:56] launcher? [18:56] you cant drag from the menu i have no idea [18:56] yeah a launcher that opens the terminal [18:56] right click → add launcher [18:56] ok then what? [18:57] command is xfce4-terminal [18:57] ok [20:57] hi, anyone here have any experience with clonezilla? [20:58] anybody there? === IdleOp is now known as IdleOne [23:10] where can I find menu.xml for xfce menu? [23:17] What version of Xubuntu? I don't think the latest version uses it