[00:00] outstanding owl [00:01] lol, that would certainly count as an odd creature [00:01] Perpetual Platypus [00:01] you heard it here first folks [00:01] lol [00:02] bcurtiswx: how can you have a linux release and P without penguins :) [00:02] nigelb, everyone expects that.. [00:02] mark isn't a typical person.. [00:02] hm, agreed on both counts [00:22] ok, so bug watcher mails seem to be in full flow now :D [00:45] OMG apport is spamming my inbox.. lol [01:31] I just discovered, those bugs with 100 or so subscribes and lots of comments [01:31] Those guys are going to be really pissed off today :p [05:49] hello all [05:49] the window where we select our username and type password after switching on ubuntu. what its called? i need submit bug for it [05:49] help???? [05:51] can i do ubuntu-bug ubuntu? [05:51] :D [05:51] Package ubuntu does not exists!!! [05:52] vish, ping [05:54] kermiac, ping [05:55] Hello, I just did a native Maverick Beta install and mid-install it offered to download updates during the install, instructed me to choose my wireless network but no networks were shown (plenty were in the area and the switch was on :P ) what do I bug against ubuntu-bug ubuntu? [05:58] abhijit: yes? [05:58] kermiac, the window where we select our username and type password after switching on ubuntu. what its called? i need submit bug for it [05:59] abhijit: gdm [05:59] kermiac, ok. thanks mate [05:59] np abhijit :) [05:59] now sumiting. :) [05:59] submitting* [06:00] rusivi: try the wireless-backports package [06:00] micahg: ty [06:01] micahg: none of those are installed on my system atm nor did I uninstall... [06:01] micahg: seems Network-Manager?! [06:02] rusivi: I'm saying you may need to install it to get the wireless working [06:02] micahg: my wireless is working fine post install [06:02] micahg: it did not during, and it offered me to seemlessly download updates after installing but when it asked me to choose a network no networks were displayed [06:03] micahg: and my wifi switch was in the on status and the light was on [06:03] rusivi: right, but after install it worked w/out installing anything? [06:03] micahg: and an ethernet cable was not plugged in :P [06:03] ok, ubuntu-bug linux I guess [06:03] micahg: k ty! [06:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/640184 [06:06] Launchpad bug 640184 in gdm (Ubuntu) "gdm hangs randomely (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [06:09] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/arora/+bug/637965 [06:09] Launchpad bug 637965 in arora (Ubuntu) "shortcut for ibus is not working in arora (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [06:09] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/celestia/+bug/639689 [06:09] Launchpad bug 639689 in celestia (Ubuntu) "Celestia-gnome is laggy in ubuntu (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [06:09] abhijit: why are you pasting these? [06:09] micahg, hey waigt [06:09] wait [06:10] micahg, i want to request someone to triage these bugs [06:10] micahg, its so many days now no one looked at them [06:10] abhijit: ah [06:10] micahg, what happen? [06:10] abhijit: what do you mean [06:11] micahg, 'ah'? [06:11] abhijit: as in, that explains it [06:11] ok [06:11] someone here to triage these bugs? hello? [06:14] !patience | abhijit [06:14] abhijit: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://ubuntu.stackexchange.com [06:14] ok [06:14] abhijit: it's the calm time [06:14] ohh ! :) ok np [09:17] happy bug day [10:25] oh! nice trick... dont get a bug fixed in 2days.. email Mark about it! ;p [11:47] I've wishlisted my own bug #640367, and wondered if someone could confirm it for me. [11:47] Launchpad bug 640367 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Manpages questionably indexed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/640367 === ivoks-afk is now known as ivoks [11:57] persia: I'll confirm that [11:57] persia: done [11:59] What do we do about bug 128165 being spammed by poster Iperbit? [11:59] Launchpad bug 128165 in netcfg (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Installation of Network put a wrong DNS, crashing the Installation (dups: 1) (heat: 2)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128165 [11:59] rusivi: what was the basis for the confirmed ? :) [12:01] rusivi, Thanks :) [12:01] vish: b/c I confirmed what persia was talking about. Would you like me to document in the comments? [12:01] * persia doesn't see the point of documenting confirmation in comments when it's obvious [12:01] I will if you like no big deal [12:01] rusivi: ah ok.. you did check the man pages.. [12:02] vish: yes [12:02] vish: I ACTUALLY confirmed it, not just marked it confirmed without checking :D [12:02] hehe [12:02] rusivi: nah.. there have been a few new triagers who dont check bugs in their install , just just making sure ;) [12:02] vish: no I'm glad to be held accountable! [12:03] vish: accountability = integrity [12:03] Indeed [12:04] rusivi, re: 128165 : the most we can do is report it in #launchpad [12:04] The usual thing is that it ends up being a launchpad question, and someone tries to clean up. [12:04] rusivi: neat! there have been a few who are too eager just confirming bugs while not even using ubuntu.. sometimes people are too helpful ;) [12:04] very abusive users sometimes end up with their accounts disabled temporarily (with the time depending on their willingness to contact the admins) [12:06] rusivi: translation == that wasnt to not-pick on you.. ;) [12:06] nit-pick* [12:06] vish: please pick on me, I'm fine with it! [12:07] persia: yeah I got maimed, flamed, and blamed b/c I asked an update request to a bug that was 2 years since last comment. Granted it was triaged and medium... I stopped that but I should not be ridiculed for an innocuous inquiry. [12:07] It is critically important to be precise, and ensure we discuss the details: that said, we always take care to avoid giving each other the impression that the discussion is personal. [12:08] rusivi, Context issue: I was talking about lperbit, not you [12:08] persia: I mentioned in bug about the CoC so far as I'm concerned it's squashed. [12:09] decent start: if it continues, escalate as indicated above. [12:09] If it stops, all is good. [12:09] looks like lperbit has been deactivated [12:10] vish: ty for checking [12:10] vish: is that something I could have checked for myself? [12:10] rusivi: you can check too , just click on the icon for the user and you are taken to their account [12:11] rusivi: also the icon will be grey is account is deactivated [12:11] s/is/if/ [12:13] vish: k ty [12:16] Anyone have suggestion on when I was downloading Maverick Ubuntu & Kubuntu the progress mid download stops but no indication download failed is a bug in firefox client or server side? [12:17] Quick followup, I can get it to resume just by pressing pause then resume. [12:17] trivial but buggable? [12:18] To troubleshoot that, maybe try using wireshark, or comparing with other clients? That's not near enough description to even guess at the cause (or responsible package) [12:22] persia: Could you please add me to -sponsors? [12:22] bilalakhtar, Sure. [12:27] bilalakhtar, Seems I can't, for some reason. [12:27] persia: why? [12:27] I no longer seem to be a member. [12:27] ??? [12:28] oops! [12:28] no problem [12:28] That's what I thought :) [12:28] persia: its not your fault :) I understand [12:28] * bilalakhtar can't find Emmet Hikory in the list [12:29] neither can I, hence the confusion [13:14] ooh! just noticed that persia made a passing comment and it was meant for me! :D persia i just like to add the info i get and its saves me not being asked "what is the message do you get?" ;) === ivoks is now known as ivoks-afk [13:15] vish, I can understand that viewpoint, which is why I don't argue against it more. I find the bugmail containing that annoying, except when the confirmation was with an interestingly different system (and that interesting difference is noted in the comment) [13:15] Easy enough to ignore the comment in the bug log otherwise [13:15] persia: actually i dint notice rusivi's confirm until i confirmed it :) [13:16] else wouldnt have commented.. [13:17] persia: we really should implement the mid air clash from bugzilla ;) [13:17] There's reasons why bugs aren't kept live. [13:17] Personally, I prefer them not to be live. [13:17] It never hurts to have two people try to set "Confirmed" [13:18] But it's a vast waste of bandwidth and CPU power to keep the bugs I have open in my browser active when I'm not looking at them [13:18] persia: well , it did annoy someone though ;) [13:19] How? [13:19] persia: oh , i thought you were annoyed.. :) [13:19] if not \o/ [13:19] No. I'm good at ignoring mail :) [13:20] Mind you, I'd like to be less good at it, because I know there's signal in the noise, but that's a different issue. [13:20] * vish note to self dont confirm persia's bugs ;p [13:20] Don't worry about it. [13:20] Not worth a note. [13:20] :) [13:21] Anyway, "my" bugs tend to be filed by other folks, and just of interest to me, so hard to identify, moreso as I'm often not subscribed (to cut down on bugmail) [13:29] bug watch exception should have been made for fixed bugs :( [13:29] every bug old and new , fixed or not , is getting a priority spamm.. [13:32] Can someone please look at bug 98388, I looked at all the different Overviews and none of them explain what Zope is nor offer the opportunity to ask a question against it... [13:32] :( [13:32] Launchpad bug 98388 in zope3/3.4 (and 3 other projects) "missing __iro__ in interface" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98388 [13:33] rusivi, Better to ask the zope folk: that's not even our bug. [13:33] persia: k np [13:33] Looks sorted though [14:13] Hi everyone, I need some help [14:14] I fixed a bug in rhythmbox from launchpad, but I don't understand how to write changes in debian/changelog, could you explain me, please ? I read this howto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix, but I don't understand the step #5, ("Make sure you mention the bug...") [14:16] hakzsam: ok its like * foo (LP: #bugno) [14:19] shadeslayer: ok, but looks the last change in debian/changelog (rhythmbox) here : http://pastebin.com/82BD8nf7, could you give me an example, please ? I fixed this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/rhythmbox/+bug/401483 [14:19] Launchpad bug 401483 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "the party mode doesn't allow to double click on a song (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Low,Triaged] [14:19] hakzsam: changelog needs more description [14:20] do something like : * Added 22_hide_on_quit.patch (LP: 401483) [14:20] and then a - [14:21] ok, thanks [14:22] np [14:24] Hi people. Question [14:24] How do you treat a bug report that has spam comment? [14:24] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf/+bug/131236 [14:24] Launchpad bug 131236 in debconf (Ubuntu) "frontend crashed with SIGSEGV in abort() (dups: 5) (heat: 125)" [Medium,Incomplete] [14:24] comment #14 [14:25] One concerned bug triager reported this in the Launchpad Answers section. [14:25] And he's here in the channel :-( [14:25] I believe [14:27] zeroseven0183: id say that is a mistake on https://edge.launchpad.net/~brokenthorn part [14:27] he might have accidently mailed it [14:27] how to revert a commit with bazaar, please ? [14:28] shadeslayer: I think so too :-) [14:28] hakzsam: already pushed? [14:29] I don't know, I used 'debcommit' [14:30] That's a commit: it's only a push if the branch is bound. [14:30] Asking in #bzr might get more useful responses [14:30] hakzsam: you can use bzr revert i [14:30] or wait [14:30] its bzr uncommit [14:31] * shadeslayer keeps mixing git and bzr [14:32] thanks :) [14:34] hello [14:34] anyone can mark this bug as wishlist? [14:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/getdeb.net/+bug/640498 [14:34] Launchpad bug 640498 in getdeb.net "f-spot needed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [14:35] abhijit: sure [14:35] shadeslayer, :D [14:36] brrr [14:36] * shadeslayer doesnt have rights to do that [14:36] which is werid [14:36] ***weird [14:36] ohhhhhhh [14:36] abhijit, this is not an Ubuntu bug [14:37] jibel, i know. its get deb wishlist. [14:37] oic thats why [14:37] :P [14:45] how to generate a patch with bazaar ? sorry for the inconvenience, but I know git, svn but not bazaar [14:46] perhaps, bzr diff > my_patch.patch ? [14:47] yeah [14:51] shadeslayer: just to be sure, I wrote a description in debian/changelog, then run 'bzr diff > debian/patches/my_patch.patch' and debcommit, it's okay for the steps ? [14:52] and I'm going to push the branch in launchpad [14:52] hakzsam: looks ok, but ive never used debcommit [14:52] gtg [14:53] shadeslayer: mhh, do you use bzr commit -m "..." ? [14:53] yeah [14:53] ok [14:54] I'm a new contributor, it's not trivial at the start... [15:01] shadeslayer: ok, I pushed my branch on launchpad, and now I must to click on 'Propose for merging', right ? [15:05] i'm starting to hate the bug watch updater... [15:05] got like 13000 new emails [15:09] okay, I fixed my first bug in ubuntu, I'm happy :) [15:10] congrats hakzsam :-) [15:10] hakzsam: well done! [15:10] hola vish [15:10] thanks [15:11] Can someone view bug 640528 for wishlist status? [15:11] Launchpad bug 640528 in launchpad-gm-scripts "firefox-lp-improvements confirmation of +reload+ (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/640528 [15:11] pedro_: hey , bug watcher is checking the importance for fix released bugs , why ? or why? make it stop ! :( [15:11] vish, :-( [15:11] vish, got 13000 emails since yesterday [15:12] pedro_: ok, you're much much worse than us :p [15:12] nigelb, vish i can forward all those to you though ;-) [15:12] * nigelb got only 250 to 300 (so far) [15:12] pedro_: I'll pass [15:12] so we can share the pain [15:12] gah! , looks for knife! [15:12] oh come on [15:12] haha [15:12] moi hggdh [15:12] hggdh, feeling the pain with the bug watch updater? [15:12] moi pedro_ [15:12] :-) [15:13] seriously , it is a bug in the bug watcher , it should _not_ look at fix released bugs. [15:13] moi? quoi? [15:13] just a few batches with a few hundreds emails ;-) [15:13] toi? [15:13] jpds: moi is 'good morning' in Pomerodin, a dialect of German [15:14] Oh, I thought you were speaking French. [15:14] I'd pay for see seb128 face when checking his email ;-) [15:14] pedro_: me too :p [15:14] especially when he's back from vacation [15:14] Pomerode is a town in southtern Brazil, mostly colonised by germans [15:14] i'm laughing already haha [15:14] nigelb, yeah ! hah [15:14] pedro_: did we ever tell hggdh the secret? [15:15] * hggdh feels the pain... [15:17] nigelb, course not! that's why it's a secret [15:23] this isn't fair, just checked out my email again, 1500 new bug mail [15:23] :-( [15:30] BugDay for Brasero! Everybody is welcome to help out if possible - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100916 [15:30] hakzsam: yes [15:31] yes, it's done, my branch has a merge proposal [15:33] oh great :D [15:41] pedro_: #blame-bdmurray and #blame-bryceh :p [15:45] not it - its really bryce [15:47] We're just being on the safe side :) [16:00] rusivi: please do not change status on tasks or bugs not for Ubuntu -- like Madriva [16:01] rusivi: also please subscribe to bugs you ask questions on [16:02] hggdh: sorry which question did I not subscribe to? [16:02] hggdh: which bug regarding Mandriva? [16:03] hehe! everyone is whining about the bug mail and jolly charlie-tca is worried about bug day ;p [16:03] rusivi: bug 53388 [16:03] charlie-tca: didnt you get spammed?!!!! [16:03] Launchpad bug 53388 in coreutils (Mandriva) (and 3 other projects) "du reports existing files as missing (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53388 [16:05] hggdh: regarding that bug, it seemed very appropriate to ask the reporter to report to Mandriva w/ his Mandriva bug, especially since the issue seemed resolved [16:05] hggdh: seemed resolved = bug already marked fixed in Ubuntu before I looked at it [16:06] hggdh: still no change on bug status for that bug at least? [16:07] rusivi, doesn't make sense to triage bugs that are from Mandriva in LP [16:07] rusivi, i think that's the point hggdh is trying to make here [16:07] rusivi, we triage Ubuntu bugs in LP so may you please keep it that way? [16:08] pedro_: sorry I did not make that connection. I won't touch upstream links if it causes so much consternation :) === ivoks-afk is now known as ivoks [16:09] rusivi, Thank you [16:10] I was kind of happy to see bugzilla finally giving us anything! [16:11] charlie-tca: we've been getting status from bugzilla for almost a year [16:11] hmm, well, my gnumeric bugs just updated [16:11] status and importance both, and that is bugzilla [16:12] charlie-tca, status was working sort of fine with Gnome's Bugzilla but the importance wasn't [16:12] pedro_: bryceh: have mercy on us! bug watcher is on a rampage.. :( it is checking status for old fix released bugs too [16:12] join me :D [16:12] now it's updating both for every bug there [16:12] status for gnumeric wasn't updating [16:13] Please work on BUGDAY instead of whining. It is much more productive [16:13] :-) [16:13] vish ^ [16:13] ;-) [16:13] no!!!!!!!!! [16:13] i wannaaa cry! [16:13] ;p [16:13] Well, maybe cry first, then work on BugDay ;-) [16:13] lol [16:13] reboot brb [16:18] * vish pff! sulks and goes bug day hunting! hope someone is happy! [16:18] ;) [16:23] :-) [16:28] rusivi: it is not consternation, it is not messing with what we do not have the right to mess. We have rights to Ubuntu bugs (or tasks). Anything else is not ours [16:28] pedro_: many of the incomplete brasero bugs request the reporter send the bug upstream (for jaunty). Should these be closed now? [16:28] Example is bug 329905 [16:28] Launchpad bug 329905 in brasero (Ubuntu) "Brasero burns corruptly (heat: 5)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/329905 [16:28] rusivi: we *can* go upstream (to Madriva, or Gnome, or KDE, etc) and comment on the bugs *there* [16:29] charlie-tca, yeah those are ok to close [16:29] Thanks [16:29] you're welcome [16:30] btw is somebody else getting no bugs with the hugday tool? [16:30] noooo, empathy crash isnt fixed :( [16:30] Tetsuo55, which empathy crash? === bregma_ is now known as bregma [16:30] hggdh: the only reason I touched it (will not moving forward) is because there Mandriva bug linked [16:30] unicode one in butterfly that was fixed yesterday [16:31] mggdh: there Mandriva bug link = there was no Mandriva bug linked [16:31] im opening a new ticket [16:31] rusivi: yes, but it is a Mandriva bug, not Ubuntu. If you think a comment/question is needed, you have to go to the Madriva BTS and do it there [16:31] pedro_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-butterfly/+bug/597381 [16:31] hggdh: k np [16:31] Tetsuo55: Error: Bug #597381 is private. [16:32] This report is public [16:32] Tetsuo55, that's still not fixed though [16:32] oh [16:32] not in Ubuntu at least [16:33] oh so it was another butterfly crash that got fixed yesterday? [16:33] bbl dinner === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:36] charlie-tca: are you able to close? i get bug not found! o.0 [16:36] pedro_: right, hugday list returns nothing [16:36] same here [16:37] thekorn, are you around ? ^ [16:37] I don't use the hugday tools [16:37] * charlie-tca still does everything the old-fashioned way, "edit" [16:38] hey, they're cool, I even made the script put a link to my LP profile instead of just the id :P [16:38] It says pedro_ has the page locked [16:38] ! [16:38] really? [16:39] * pedro_ checking [16:40] charlie-tca, does it works now? [16:40] This page was opened for editing or last previewed at 2010-09-16 08:39:08 by Pedro Villavicencio. [16:40] You should refrain from editing this page for at least another 9 minute(s), to avoid editing conflicts. [16:40] To leave the editor, press the Cancel button. [16:40] wth [16:41] crap [16:41] fail, huh? [16:41] pedro_: yes, what did I broke? [16:42] i'm pretty sure i'm not editing anything [16:42] thekorn, nothing :-) [16:42] phew... [16:42] thekorn, may you have a look at the hugday tool? is returning 0 bugs and not finding anything [16:43] sure, give me a sec [16:44] thank you thekorn [16:45] 5 more minutes [16:46] In bug 139558 it seems it is a bug that is dependent on another but not a formal duplicate, is it appropriate to mark this bug as a dup of the dependency? [16:46] Launchpad bug 139558 in telepathy-butterfly (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "telepathy-butterfly crashed with UnicodeDecodeError in _signal_text_received() (affects: 68) (dups: 1) (heat: 342)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139558 [16:51] pedro_: found the issue: the hugday tool searches for bugurls with pattern 'https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/', but today the Bug column has urls like "https://launchpad.net/bugs/502612" [16:51] Launchpad bug 502612 in brasero (Ubuntu) "Session error : unknown (brasero_burn_record brasero-burn.c:2811) (affects: 7) (heat: 36)" [Low,New] [16:51] aha! [16:51] easiest fix would be to adjust the urls on the wiki, but I can change it in the script too [16:52] but then everybody has to update their checkouts [16:52] charlie-tca, how did you generated the list of bugs? [16:52] OO.o manually [16:52] ! [16:52] like manually manually? [16:52] I did not want to have to install bzr again [16:53] like copy from launchpad to abiword to Open-Office calc? [16:53] :-P you could have told me about it [16:53] rusivi: no, you should not make it a dup -- it depends on, but it is not the same issue [16:53] rusivi: we should have dependency handling on LP in a few weeks [16:53] did what the wiki said to [16:54] charlie-tca, it says use bughelper :-P [16:54] ah let's fix the bug url it should be easy to do [16:54] thanks thekorn [16:54] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Organizing#Open%20Office [16:54] no problemo [16:54] charlie-tca, i'm pretty sure that vish wrote that [16:54] hggdh: k ty for checking! [16:54] charlie-tca, is always his fault [16:54] ! [16:55] bughelper wanted to install bazaar again. I did not want that again [16:55] Well, vish should take the blame then :-) [16:55] obviously not my fault [16:57] Oh, I see now. Yes, my fault. [16:58] I guess I will fix the organizing page, then [16:59] links fixed, could somebody try to close a bug there? [17:01] pedro_: that is probably why it was so difficult to follow those directions. [17:01] pedro_: hmm , what did i write? [17:01] charlie-tca, yeah [17:02] vish, could you try to close some bugs with hugday tool? [17:03] \o/ [17:03] works now! [17:04] cool! [17:04] Sorry. Corrected the organizing page, too. [17:04] hugday current [17:04] ups, sorry [17:04] charlie-tca, thank you ! [17:04] no problem [17:04] At least we found it [17:05] indeed :-) [17:05] hmm , btw, what got pinned on me this time ? :D [17:06] vish, ah it's a secret :-P [17:06] * vish duck-tapes pedro_'s finger ;p [17:06] ;-) [17:06] no more pointing for you! ;) [17:10] vish: does it matter? I heard you did it, no matter what "it" is? [17:11] * vish very bad fella .. o.0 [17:12] I wouldn't say bad, but very considerate, taking blame for things. [17:13] ok im back [17:13] whats keeping bug 597381 fix from becomming available on updater? [17:13] Launchpad bug 597381 in telepathy-butterfly (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "telepathy-butterfly crashed with UnicodeDecodeError in _signal_text_received() (affects: 70) (dups: 1) (heat: 316)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597381 [17:14] Tetsuo55, i'll check it in a few [17:14] pedro_: thanks [17:16] you're welcome [17:17] pedro_: btw, what happened to hggdh's secret ? ;) [17:17] did anyone crack under his pressure? [17:17] Hello there [17:17] vish, no one :-) [17:17] * hggdh points out to vish that there will be a reckoning during UDS >-> [17:18]