[00:12] Pici: highvoltage: file a bug on ubuntu-website [00:12] that's kind of ! that that can happen [00:19] * nigelb wonders what '!' represents [00:43] ScottL: The device isn't a part of a workflow, the hardware should just work. If it doesn't then it's not making things, it's fixing a broken system. [00:45] JFo: are fans not turning on kernel-related? [01:12] pleia2: ping [01:12] doctormo: pong [01:13] pleia2: I was thinking of doing a kickstart for attending UDS since I didn't get sponsorship. What are your thoughts? [01:13] kickstart? [01:14] http://www.kickstarter.com/ [01:14] doctormo, i had expected the drivers to be a package for a discreet time until things are functional and stabilized and finally included into the kernel [01:15] doctormo, as such i expected to have to include the driver package in the ubuntustudio.seeds [01:15] ScottL: True enough, if we must do a workflow it has to be in a systems maintenance section. [01:16] doctormo, well, if you could add a workflow for drawing your daily sketches that would help several things: [01:16] 1) giving justification (based on a task) for including the driver [01:16] 2) giving a workflow for users to follow [01:16] 3) develops a framework to create documentation [01:16] doctormo: ah, not a bad idea :) [01:17] pleia2: I wonder if we could actually organise something. did you get sponsored? Do we know who didn't? [01:17] isn't kickstarter how those open source twitter guys did their funding...i forget the name, but it was slightly odd [01:18] doctormo: I can't attend and I've got too much going on right now to have paid much attention to UDS planning this time around [01:21] pleia2: How is life? I had hoped things would be easy after the move :-) [01:22] doctormo, even if you feel that the workflow isn't required for the driver, it would still be appreciated if we could rely on your experience with tablets for documentation [01:22] doctormo: great! but very very busy :) [01:23] diaspora is the project that used kickstarter for funding, and they overshoot their target funding by an order of magnitude i believe [01:24] ScottL: I've added an art section, full of bullets. [01:27] jcastro: got a minute? [01:34] doctormo, capital! thank you :) [01:36] doctormo, it may seem slightly trivial, but we are going to be using the task workflows to evaluate and revise the current package selections in ubuntu studio [01:36] we are trying to avoid being less of an application factory and be more lean, functional, and useful for users [01:37] thanks again [02:02] ScottL: Brilliant Idea. [02:06] so, which LoCo team will be first to set up a diaspora node for their members? http://github.com/diaspora/diaspora [02:20] doctormo, i wish i could take credit for it but it was persia's idea, i just hope that i am capable enough to effect it ;) [02:47] ScottL: persia is a god, there is nothing more that can be said ;-) [06:53] good morning all! [06:53] morning [08:03] good morning everyone! [08:10] doctormo: +1. yes, persia is a god :D [08:11] aloha folks [08:11] IM going to mention it again here... for all you lovely people setting up your irc client, you can avoid the spamming of your ip and "changing host" quit messafg [08:11] messages by putting your nickserv pass as the server pass on freenode [08:11] and backspace shouldnt be near enter :P [08:11] hi czajkowski [08:12] good morning czajkowski, jussi [08:13] heya dpm [08:15] * jussi points jcastro to the above info [08:25] dpm: howdy [08:30] hey :-) [09:07] could someone with a default English (non-British, non-Australian, etc.) installation please help me? What's the output of the 'locale' command (without quotes) on the command line? [09:08] dpm: will paste to dm [09:09] great, thanks czajkowski! [09:09] :) [10:55] Morning community! [10:57] morning popey [11:01] hey popey, morning [11:32] morning folks *yawn* [12:20] hello [12:23] morning all [12:36] popey: ping [12:37] duanedesign: pong [12:37] popey: good day. I uploaded some screencasts to static.screencasts.ubuntu.com [12:37] nice one! [12:38] popey: what do i need to do now. [12:41] hmm [12:41] one moment [12:42] popey: no rush. thank you. [12:43] ugh, my fonts have changed. why! [12:44] duanedesign: where'd you put them? [12:44] ah, in your ~ [12:45] duanedesign: lets move to #ubuntu-screencasts [12:45] kk [12:46] um, whats the default font usually? [12:48] normally sans, which is dejavu-sans [12:48] did it just change to the ubuntu beta font? [12:48] nope [12:48] its changed to sans [12:48] can't read irssi very clearly [12:57] yay, back to normal [12:57] AlanBell: thank you! [13:11] AlanBell: I ended up manually correcting it. [14:09] jcastro, fans not turning on could indeed be kernel related [14:11] JFo: ok so if I see fan questions I should tag them kernel perhaps? [14:12] jcastro: you've got plenty of freee time now? [14:12] jcastro, yes please [14:13] jcastro: can you pop into -classroom-backstage if you have time? [14:23] bug 488458 [14:23] Launchpad bug 488458 in lernid "phones home (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/488458 [14:56] dpm: thanks for that script [14:56] but mhall fixed it up so I got it all done [14:56] it will be handy for future things though [14:57] jcastro, ah, cool, as I said, I'm happy that you didn't have to resort to it :) [15:17] <|izzie> WHOA! [15:17] <|izzie> doctormo, you've switched alliances!!! [15:21] * popey hugs jcastro [15:23] woo, openweek call for instructors is out [15:31] jcastro: Where? [15:31] -users, -classrom, and -locoteams [15:31] Alright. I'll just be patient ;) [15:31] merged and pushed btw [15:32] jcastro: I love you! [15:32] you're not going to love me when I put you in the lernid-dev team and take myself out. :p [15:33] * nigelb takes that back :p [15:33] Thanks jcastro [15:33] anything else? [15:33] lol, /me just applied for lernid-devs [15:34] jcastro: um, yeah [15:34] jono or the other guy has to approve you [15:34] jcastro: bug jono thing I told you the other day :D [15:34] just make him promote you guys and then have him unsub [15:34] so you don't block on people [15:34] thank you :) [15:34] jcastro: Yeah. Wait? Was your "merged and pushed" comment about nigel's proposal? If so, can you do the same for my merge proposal [15:35] nhandler: for yours [15:35] I pushed his already [15:36] \o/ [15:36] jcastro: Cool. Can you close the merge proposal then? [15:36] yeah, [15:36] isn't there some autoclose thing? [15:36] You rock jcastro ! [15:36] (Note to self: Bug jcastro and things will get done) [15:36] it seems lame to do both [15:37] jcastro: No clue. I don't do enough with merges [15:37] nigelb: stop spreading rumors! [15:37] jcastro, don't deny, we all know that here :P [15:37] jcastro: I'd like some help with putting a .htaccess file on jono's server. You agreed to help :D [15:38] since we're on a good run, I thought we'd finish off all the stuff today :p [15:38] nhandler: DUDE. [15:38] it's "Merged" automatically [15:38] f'ing awesome [15:38] jcastro: It is, yes [16:03] hey dpm [16:03] sorry, I am going to be a few mins [16:03] jono, no worries! [16:10] dpm, ok, let's do skype [16:10] jono, ok, logged in [17:12] jono: any chance I could get 5 minutes of your time today? [17:14] cjohnston, sure [17:15] I'm fine whenever.. Just let me know when [17:20] oh, jono is giving out appointments. jono I need about 10 minutes of your time too [17:20] ;) [17:20] I would like a pony! [17:21] jcastro: team up with amber [17:21] she wants one too :D [17:21] * paultag too [17:21] hei , i want a Narwhal! :D [17:24] because they are so awesome? [17:25] cjohnston, nigelb so you both need to chat? [17:25] jono: with you, yes :) [17:26] lol [17:26] jono: yes.. 5 minutes should be fine.. on irc is fine [17:27] ditto here too :) [17:27] It can be posponed to next week also.. not a rush. [18:02] jcastro: thanks for including -classroom on your call for instructors :) I added you to Accepts on that list [18:10] \o/ [18:16] and added to fridge [18:22] ok, done the share for the day [18:22] bye everyone [18:24] g'nite [18:53] ok, jcastro, since I love you, I just recruited first session leader for UOW :) [18:53] I like how you roll [18:54] * nigelb should think of a session himself [18:58] hey paultag [18:59] thought you'd get a kick out of this: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2010/09/go-that-way-really-fast.html [19:00] "help lead the world away from the ancient, creaky, horribly broken bulletin board model of phpBB and vBulletin" <# [19:00] <3 [19:18] is it me or is http://www.ubuntu.com/community a little bit full on? [19:18] * jcastro makes a mental note and finds the info he needs [19:21] paultag, did you hear from kara? If not I have a link for you will email it if you still need it [19:29] jcastro: a few images would brighten it up already :) [19:30] or maybe tabs. what the world needs is more tabs. [20:03] weird, SLC to MCO this summer Delta was only 21,000 Skymiles, for a for the week of UDS it is 32,500, ok plan B:) [20:06] * Pendulum has no financially viable plan B. stupid medical expenses that keep popping up. [20:07] going to see if my work would be willing to send me. [20:37] omg. OMG. [20:37] jono: does tomorrow hold any particular significance? [20:38] like you know, birthday [20:38] lol [20:38] jcastro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityContributePages [20:39] workin on the /community page [20:39] nigelb, indeed :) [20:39] tomorow I am 31` [20:39] jono: Happy Birthday :) [20:39] thanks nigelb! [20:41] jono, don't forget to take you Geritol.... [20:41] lol [20:41] lol [20:42] Also, akgraner's birthday falls while she's at UDS, just fyi ;) [20:42] nigelb, woo! [20:42] hehehe [20:43] nigelb, the sad thing is I just realized I am 10 years older than jono... [20:43] akgraner, you are not ten years older than me, I am just ten years younger than you [20:43] but you seem so much younger [20:43] lol [20:43] ok then I should probably keep quiet about my age [20:43] :-P [20:43] * nigelb waits for somone to say 'GET OFF MY LAWN' [20:44] cjohnston, yeah he does doesn't he I was going to say 12 is about the right age for jono... [20:44] I was saying you [20:44] lol [20:44] cjohnston, ok you can be my new best friend if you thought I was in my 20's [20:44] Becca's 16? ;) [20:45] 15 [20:45] going on 16 [20:45] I was gonna say 12 [20:45] lol [20:45] 15 going on 21? [20:45] akgraner: going on 16 or going on 25 and 12 all at once? ;-) [20:45] Pendulum, yes [20:45] Pendulum: +++ [20:46] Pendulum, nigelb chatted with her last night for a few minutes while I was in the Kitchen [20:46] she thought that was cool [20:46] * nigelb too [20:46] and I found out she has a LP id and and IRC nick [20:46] :) [20:46] haha [20:46] you didn't know? [20:46] hahaha [20:46] nope [20:47] akgraner: #blame-JFo [20:48] hey maybe i can take the blame on that.... i was urging her to join #ubuntu-women at SELF [20:48] maco, she told me [20:48] she said she doesnt know how to use IRC. i asked her if she knew how to IM [20:48] she was like - I like maco [20:48] she just likes knowing people she can rat me out too [20:48] hehe [20:48] and who give her free clothes? [20:49] akgraner: haha [20:49] she already wore them to school [20:49] The only difference between akgraner and her daughter - look for smileys :-) vs (: [20:50] yeah she does those backwards not sure why [20:50] Tm_T does them backwards too :p [20:50] so what's her IRC nick? UbuntuOrphan1? [20:51] lol [20:51] Pendulum, hahaha no don't give her ideas [20:51] UbuntuOrphan42 [20:51] she told me it was ragraner [20:51] so have any of you ubufolks setup diaspora seeds yet? [20:51] meh, rails no love [20:52] i put the maverick version of rubygems in my ppa for lucid so lucid users could use it [20:52] maco: ok, that definitely deserves hugs :) [20:53] well my server runs lucid :P [20:53] im not /that/ stupid [20:53] to run maverick? or to run debian unstable? ;) [20:53] * highvoltage is! [20:54] (well, not production, but sitll :) ) [20:54] I haven't switched to Maverick yet... :-( [20:54] * nigelb is on Lenny :p [20:54] * highvoltage wonders if anyone will notice that the edubuntu installer background colour is #424242 [20:54] im running maverick, but thats on my laptops [20:54] servers get lts [20:54] highvoltage: OMG [20:55] * cjohnston has been running mav on production machines since a1 [20:55] I'll switch mine over once I get the heat issue fixed... [20:56] nigelb: and there's "101010" written very small in one of the slides :) [20:56] Hardware Destroyer! :p [20:57] so... Im on the stand by list... [20:57] highvoltage: don't tempt me :p [20:57] :) [20:57] jussi: a week more to go? [20:57] jono, will there be a London release party and will you be there? If not I need to find someone who will be at the release party who can get me some pictures from there [20:57] nigelb: heh. and there's bigger ones but I'll only reveal after release :D (mhuhahahahaha) [20:57] nigelb: I was talking about uds :D [20:57] jussi: I know, but I wasn't ;) [20:57] hehe yeah, 1 weekish [20:58] Mum and Dad arrive in the mornin... [20:59] wooo! [21:01] I got more feedback today on my OLF talk - I was worried about being so honest about my personal burnout - but the feedback has been awesome... Best comment of all "The problem isn't that your son unplugged your server to get you off the computer. The problem is you have a server room for him to go to in the first place." [21:01] akgraner: hahaha [21:02] I think I just take it for granted that *everyone* has a server in their house [21:02] * cjohnston wants a server [21:03] maybe not rack mounted ones.. [21:03] * JFo drop ships servers to cjohnston [21:03] yay! [21:03] hey JFo ! [21:03] take them... get them out of my way [21:03] akgraner: pleia2 is the only other person I know of. [21:03] hey cjohnston [21:03] JFo: but they are nice toys to break [21:03] I think she had a cluster at her house :p [21:03] or when you're really cranky great to kick! [21:03] JFo, podcast in the am? how does 9am sound to you [21:04] oh no.... [21:04] hmmmm, works for me [21:04] long as we have some sort of outline [21:04] I'm going to get hurt laughing again...... :D :D [21:04] I have no idea what you are talking about nigelb :-| [21:05] we are serious about our podcasts [21:05] JFo, you do the outline - I'll squeak through it... [21:05] JFo: just like beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, comedy is too [21:05] nigelb: hey, I work from home :) I need this server [21:05] pleia2: haha, you had 4 or 5 earlier right? [21:05] * JFo unplugs pleia2's server [21:05] well yeah, but I've cut back [21:05] just for fun though [21:06] JFo: http://xkcd.com/705/ [21:06] heh [21:07] JFo: just remeber when dealing with pleia2, she's a sysadmin :D [21:07] If I told you guys I am listening to linkin park would you think less of me? [21:07] jcastro, nope [21:07] jcastro, my daughter loves them [21:07] jcastro: no [21:07] jcastro: I <3 linkin part [21:07] park [21:08] In the End is one of my favorites :) [21:08] I have nail polish called Lincoln Park after dark :-) [21:08] jcastro: jono might fire you though [21:08] i havent heard much new music since i stopped listening to radio, but what i remember of them from like 6 years ago, i like them [21:08] I got their new single [21:08] it's pretty good [21:09] snerk* akgraner, check this out (via twitter) @manjo3 Having indian food ata restaurant across the street from the hotel. @jeremyfoshee @manjo3 dude, you're Indian... just call it 'food' ;-) [21:10] JFo: hahaha [21:10] Also, I didn't know manjo3 was indian :) [21:10] Oh I can't wait til UDS I <3 you guys! [21:10] jono, what are we smoking? :-) oh... it is the FDA you want to be smoking. :) [21:10] akgraner, :-/ [21:10] lol [21:11] JFo: ah, that manjo :) [21:11] nigelb, yeah [21:11] jono: frget the cake song yet? [21:11] nah, It's a piece of cake... [21:11] JFo, I hate you [21:12] akgraner, :-D [21:12] I had almost forgotten that sone [21:12] song [21:12] * nigelb got corrupted by JFo [21:12] now I am singing it again [21:12] YEAH!! [21:13] great, now I'm listening to the cake song [21:14] sign, nothing better to listen at 2 am to stay awake [21:14] *sigh [21:52] spilling a pint glass of water on laptop is not good [21:52] I'll repeat what dpm said :p [21:52] czajkowski: You aren't supposed to feed these things! [21:52] I know :( [21:52] czajkowski, no - but I spilled a pint of beer in Pete's and once it dried out it was fine [21:52] the mothership called it sounded urgent I got up and ran [21:52] she was just giving out I turned off the lights [21:53] * czajkowski mutters [21:53] EOD in a few minutes, see ya'll tomorrow! [21:53] jcastro: g'nite [21:53] jcastro: toodles [21:53] jcastro, laters! [21:53] grrrr so help me I may actualy throttle her one day ! [21:53] czajkowski, who your mother or me :-P [21:53] the mothership [21:54] czajkowski: I once saw someone run with a laptop and tripped and then they dropped he dropped it in a swimming pool, so you don't have to feel so bad :) [21:54] :-) whew I was trying to figure I what I did this time :-P [21:54] highvoltage: laptops do not swim [21:55] akgraner: haha [21:57] I am gun shy these days - I have PTSD now from czajkowski threatening to throttle me :-P (just kidding) [21:58] I'm not gun shy.. [21:58] lol [21:59] eh [21:59] what's the opposite of gun shy? [21:59] gun friendly? [22:00] the answer to your question is me [22:00] it was weird for me when I came to Canada and saw that you can buy guns at the supermarket :) [22:01] aye tis a bit frigging oddd [22:01] * cjohnston wants to go to canada! [22:03] * akgraner checks into the reciprocal conceal carry laws [22:03] hehe [22:03] FL kicks butt [22:04] all these army folks in here [22:04] * cjohnston wishes FL had openc arry tho [22:04] now if we could only schedule a skynyrd concert one evening after UDS - life would be so awesome [22:04] and complete [22:05] akgraner: you have an sc or nc license? [22:05] (ccw) [22:06] nc and va [22:06] your good here [22:06] ok, this has reached her higher level of geekery than I can keep up [22:06] Whats ccw? [22:06] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry_in_the_United_States [22:07] only places you cant carry are ca, or, mn, ia, il, wi, ny, me, dc, md, nj, ri, ct, ma [22:07] cjohnston, I knew there was more than I big eared mouse I like about FL [22:07] lol [22:07] florida is cool.. you honor ours, we honor yours [22:08] haha, took a minute for disney to come into mind [22:08] you can carry in one more state than i can [22:08] which one is that VA? [22:09] he means numerically [22:09] * JFo goes to get the cluebat [22:09] i cant in you can carry in nv [22:09] I cant [22:09] VA is OPEN CARRY!!!!!!!! [22:09] I want to move to VA so bad [22:10] For my non english statements, I can't carry in NV, but you can. [22:10] * czajkowski wants to go shhooting again [22:10] czajkowski: I'm sure we will [22:10] waity [22:10] damn straight [22:10] im not sure I want to go shooting with you [22:10] cjohnston: haha [22:10] cjohnston, I loved living in Virginia - we lived in Charlottesville and Herndon.. Love it!!! [22:10] * czajkowski peers at cjohnston [22:11] we talked about moving to cville [22:11] i would love to [22:11] cjohnston: Now, I'm sure you don't want to go shooting with czajkowski :p [22:11] czajkowski, I believe itnet7 is looking into places to go shoot.... [22:11] aye [22:11] :D [22:11] akgraner: I didnt realize that NC was open carry [22:11] hmm... [22:12] I don't know of any places down by where we are going [22:12] there is a really big place up by me [22:13] I'll touch base with him again about it... and find out what info he got for me [22:13] * JFo is safe on third [22:14] akgraner: I didn't know you carry.. But I guess it kinda makes sense [22:14] cjohnston, I don't most of the time - but there are times when it is better and easier that way [22:15] most of the time everything is locked safely in the cases when traveling... [22:16] a locked gun is a useless gun [22:16] akgraner: you always carry a gun? [22:16] we have one speaker who will only speak at events where he can carry his weapons too [22:16] thats awesome [22:17] nigelb, nope not always - but sometimes - it's a right I have and if I don't exercise that right I am afraid my government will try to take it away [22:18] so I encourage everyone to get their conceal carry permits whether they intend to use it or not [22:18] yay for akgraner ! [22:18] * cjohnston found a new best friend [22:18] hehe [22:19] * cjohnston needs to do better at carrying all the time [22:19] akgraner, still don't have it :( [22:20] cjohnston, I hope I never have a reason other than sport shooting to use it [22:20] I agree.. [22:20] but id atleast like a chance if needed [22:21] akgraner, still not on her flickr :( [22:21] akgraner: oh i know who you mean there. he's from salamanda town an they call it salanda town on accoun o they only gots salamandas an snakes an if they called it snake town aint nobody wanna live there... [22:22] I drew my handgun one time on a kid that was breaking in our house - Pete was deployed - and if I hadn't looked twice and noticed that this kid (I later found out he was only 15) only had a crowbar in his hand I would have shot him... [22:22] paultag, they are on her FB page [22:22] wow [22:22]