[04:29] <micahg> do .desktop files have to be utf8?
[04:32] <JanC> micahg: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s02.html says they have to be  ☺
[04:32] <micahg> JanC: k, if I can't get an answer, I'll drop the translation
[04:34] <JanC> translation?
[04:34] <micahg> yeah for the name
[04:35] <JanC> translations should use UTF-8 too, I suppsoe, which shouldn't be a problem?
[04:35] <micahg> JanC: right, I think I just got a bad char, but I tried copying twice
[08:01]  * TheMuso -> EOD. Happy freeze day all. :)
[08:05] <pitti> Good morning
[08:54] <RAOF> Hello everyone!
[08:54] <dpm> morning RAOF
[08:55] <dpm> (or rather evening to you :)
[08:56] <RAOF> No, morning.  I'm at XDS, in Toulouse.
[08:57] <dpm> ok, :)
[08:58] <RAOF> Am I to understand that mesa 7.9 broke the world?
[09:16] <bryceh> where world == unity
[10:37] <ronoc> bl8: banshee works, libindicator bug fixed last night
[10:37] <ronoc> libindicate rather
[10:38] <vish>  ronoc: hi, i dint understand your comment here> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/624610/comments/8 .. you are working[or hoping] on fixing it for Natty? and this menu-close is a temporary workaround?
[10:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 624610 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Media Buttons should trigger action only on button release (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 22)" [Low,Triaged]
[10:41] <ronoc> vish, I would like to revisit the button implementation at some point, I think the edge detection could be improved, 0.4.8 should have this fixed. For now though i think this bug has been fixed. Any other quirks to do with the buttons should be filed as new bugs.
[10:41] <ronoc> vish, thx for all the help on the bug front :)
[10:41] <vish> ronoc: yea.. np.. :)
[10:58] <chrisccoulson> am i the only person on the desktop team here at the moment?
[11:03] <mvo> chrisccoulson: woah, final freeze day and you guys are all on vacation?
[11:03] <mvo> chrisccoulson: amazing ;)
[11:03] <chrisccoulson> mvo - not me ;)
[11:03] <chrisccoulson> i really should take some vacation soon
[11:03] <mvo> last man standing
[11:03] <chrisccoulson> who will do firefox security updates if i go away on vacation though? ;)
[11:04]  * mvo looks around for a candidate
[11:04] <mvo> ubot2!
[11:04]  * mvo is not sure that would work
[11:05] <mvo> chrisccoulson: but seriously, is it still so crazy with them :/ ?
[11:05] <chrisccoulson> mvo - yeah, we've had 2 security releases for all products in the last week :(
[11:05] <mvo> mehhhh
[11:14] <vish> mvo / chrisccoulson: got a min for an upload to main?  :)
[11:14] <vish>  could someone upload this for maverick? lp:human-theme fixes a small bug Bug; #553393 ..
[11:14] <chrisccoulson> vish - it depends if i can upload it ;)
[11:14] <vish> chrisccoulson: hmm..! desktop might have had access to human theme :)
[11:15] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it's in the desktop package set
[11:15] <chrisccoulson> i just checked
[11:15] <vish> apparently someone still uses human theme ;p  .. they came to -artwork asking for a fix ;)
[11:15] <chrisccoulson> it doesn't require UIF exception does it? :)
[11:15] <chrisccoulson> i just rejected one sponsoring request because it changes a string ;)
[11:15] <vish> nope.. just fixes the bug of invisible checkmarks ..
[11:16] <chrisccoulson> ok, that sounds fine
[11:16] <vish> thanks.. :)
[11:17] <chrisccoulson> i will do that in a few minutes, just need to grab more coffee
[11:18] <vish> hmm.. who was it who broke their coffee-maker! ;)
[11:19] <vish> oh wait that was in gnome! jimmac! ;p
[11:19] <chrisccoulson> yeah, not me ;)
[11:19] <vish> for some reason i thought it was pitt-i  :)
[11:19] <chrisccoulson> i would die if i broke my coffee maker
[11:34] <chrisccoulson> vish - ok, uploaded now
[11:34] <vish> chrisccoulson: thanks..
[12:04] <chrisccoulson> wtf is comment #3 in bug 638549 about?
[12:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 638549 in firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) "Sound package not found another prosess in use - Package audio does not exis (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/638549
[12:04] <chrisccoulson> "My blue tooth has very bad-breath"
[12:04] <chrisccoulson> lol
[12:50] <Laney> Is it intentional that f-spot got demoted?
[12:51] <Laney> (e.g.) pidgin still lives on in main
[13:27] <ronoc> shuerhaaken, ping
[13:30] <shuerhaaken> pong
[13:30] <shuerhaaken> hello conor
[13:31] <ronoc> shuerhaaken, hey
[13:31] <ronoc> shuerhaaken, liking xnoise alot
[13:31] <shuerhaaken> thanks!
[13:32] <shuerhaaken> can you compile now?
[13:32] <ronoc> shuerhaaken, just quickly tried to compile before lunch but got that error I sent
[13:32] <ronoc> granted I didn't spend much time trying to figure out why
[13:32] <ronoc> shuerhaaken, i need 0.1.11 to test right ?
[13:33] <shuerhaaken> better tip
[13:33] <shuerhaaken> i have an old computer now with maverick for testing
[13:34] <ronoc> will I cloned tip at 12 noon gmt, and get that error
[13:34] <ronoc> get/got
[13:34] <shuerhaaken> there is something wrong with my mpris v2
[13:34] <shuerhaaken> i compared to rhythmbox' implementation
[13:35] <shuerhaaken> but I have difficulties to get this done via dbus-glib-1
[13:36] <shuerhaaken> d-feet shows me more than one Object path in org.mpris.Mediaplayer2.xnoise
[13:37] <shuerhaaken> there is org/mpris/Mediaplayer2 and org/mpris/Mediaplayer2/Player
[13:37] <shuerhaaken> for rhythmbow the ../Player is available under org/mpris/Mediaplayer2
[14:20] <ronoc> bl8: hey
[16:18] <mvo> jcastro: should I act about the discussion on featured applications? i.e. should software-center get a update for some new/removed ones?
[16:25] <ronoc> TheMuso, crimsun_ late in the day pulse bug coming from netbook editions -> #639793
[16:25] <ronoc> crashing the sound-service :/
[16:25] <ronoc> there was a new pulse went in in the last few days ?
[16:28] <jcastro> mvo: participation doesn't seem as great as last time
[16:29] <jcastro> kenvandine: what do you think?
[16:29] <jcastro> calibre and pdfmod seem like nobrainers to me. (But, I did add them, heh)
[16:29] <kenvandine> jcastro, dunno...
[16:30] <jcastro> mvo: we have like what, 45 minutes left?
[16:31] <jcastro> mvo: just add those three on the page, and if someone complains then they should have participated. *shrug*
[16:31] <mvo> jcastro: we can still try to get a exception
[16:31] <mvo> jcastro: its just data, no risk of regression
[16:31] <jcastro> but it's not that important if everyone trying to get real fixes in
[16:31] <mvo> jcastro: I just wanted to make sure I was not blocking something
[16:32] <mvo> jcastro: well, yes and no, trivial for the release-manager to review and iimportant for our users to see new items (to see that we garden the list)
[16:33] <jcastro> well, all we have are those three new ones, so might as well do it
[16:33] <jcastro> and then at UDS figure out how to make it work better for next time
[16:34] <mvo> jcastro: ok, thanks
[16:34] <mvo> jcastro: I will prepare a update with those, I need to merge another fix in anyway
[16:35] <mvo> jcastro: what about moovida, someone raised concerns about that in the ML iirc?
[17:23] <pedro_> kenvandine, may you please look at bug 597381 later?
[17:23] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 597381 in telepathy-butterfly (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "telepathy-butterfly crashed with UnicodeDecodeError in _signal_text_received() (affects: 70) (dups: 1) (heat: 316)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597381
[17:23] <pedro_> kenvandine, looks like it's fixed in butterfly and not in the papyon 0.5.1
[17:23] <pedro_> that'd be nice to have fixed
[17:27] <kenvandine> pedro_, i'll look in a bit
[17:27] <pedro_> thank you kenvandine
[17:27] <kenvandine> np
[17:38] <chrisccoulson> excellent, the status bar in firefox 4.0 has gone away now \o/
[17:38] <nigelb> oh, nice
[17:38] <chrisccoulson> it disappeared in the latest nightly
[17:57]  * dobey wonders if there's an archive rebuild going on right now
[18:07] <vish> chrisccoulson: but the statusbar could be disabled earlier too.. only then you wont get statuses ;)
[18:08] <chrisccoulson> vish - you still get statuses now
[18:08] <vish> yeah.. the new one is kinda nice
[18:08] <vish> but sometimes distracting .. its too pretty!!!
[18:08] <chrisccoulson> i'm looking forward to getting this in to natty
[18:23] <tremolux> heyyy devildante!
[18:23] <tremolux> devildante: how's it going
[18:23] <tremolux> ?
[18:23] <devildante> hey tremolux
[18:23] <devildante> tremolux, all is fine :)
[18:23] <tremolux> devildante: thx for your fixes, they got in before freeze  \o/
[18:23] <tremolux> well, some did, the fixes with string changes have to wait
[18:24] <devildante> no problem :)
[18:24] <tremolux> and it turns out the history fix broke the unit test so we have to debug that
[18:24] <tremolux> but, the history fix did work in the UI, so..
[18:25] <tremolux> devildante: but it was great to have them for freeze-time
[18:26] <asac> hmm. where can i set the AutoLogin user etc. in gconf for gdm?
[18:26] <asac> afaik gdm reads gconf, but how do i add that in postinst ;)
[18:26] <devildante> tremolux, thanks :)
[18:27] <tremolux> devildante: the thanks go to you!
[18:27] <tremolux> devildante: it feels like a really nice release
[18:27] <tremolux> devildante: give it a shot when you can
[18:27] <devildante> tremolux, no, they go to you for merging :p
[18:28] <tremolux> devildante: haha!
[18:28] <devildante> tremolux, give a shot for what?
[18:28] <tremolux> devildante: I just mean, play around with software-center when you get the update (or just in trunk)
[18:28] <devildante> ah
[18:28] <devildante> okay :)
[18:28] <tremolux> devildante: stuff is working really well
[18:29]  * tremolux knocks on wood  ;)
[18:29] <devildante> tremolux, yes, the 10.10 release is gonna live to its perfect expectations :)
[18:29] <tremolux> devildante: I hope so
[18:29] <devildante> tremolux, I also find the default wallpaper is really cool
[18:29] <devildante> ditto for the updated themes
[18:30] <tremolux> devildante: yes!  totally agree
[18:30] <tremolux> devildante: I am really loving 10.10
[18:31] <devildante> tremolux, my only complaint is that jockey-gtk is slow at researching drivers, but that's an old bug :p
[18:31] <devildante> I'll give a shot at accelerating it for 11.04
[18:31] <tremolux> devildante: nice  :)
[18:31] <devildante> ;)
[19:46] <kenvandine> bigon, any plans to update telepathy-butterfly ?
[21:06] <DrGrov> I am having the following problem. "Active VT tracking can fail at startup", https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/544139?comments=all
[21:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 544139 in consolekit (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "Active VT tracking can fail at startup (affects: 47) (dups: 6) (heat: 226)" [High,Triaged]
[21:07] <DrGrov> Perhaps someone got a good workaround for this issue since it is really difficult to do my work? Greatly appreciated any type of help to get rid of the problem somehow.
[21:12] <DrGrov> Nobody has that same issue as I have?
[21:12] <DrGrov> Can that be true? :)
[21:13] <cjohnston> kenvandine: 22 days since last facebook update :-(
[21:13] <kenvandine> sigh...
[21:13] <kenvandine> there has to be a way to fix that...
[21:14] <DrGrov> How do I downgrade to the version 173 Nvidia drivers?
[21:14] <cjohnston> I've actually been looking at your post for 22 days
[21:14] <kenvandine> cjohnston, it really should work at least intermittenly
[21:14] <DrGrov> I hope that I can try to downgrade the nVidia drivers and hopefully that will help
[21:14] <kenvandine> like in the morning it should work better :)
[21:14] <cjohnston> ya
[21:26] <cjohnston> sounds like you might spend uds looking at my laptop again
[21:27] <cjohnston> :-P
[21:38] <kenvandine> hehe
[21:40] <vish> hmm.. twitter doesnt update here.. but i'm using the maverick version on lucid ;p
[21:40] <vish> it worked for a while and then has stopped since 2weeks
[21:56] <cjohnston> vish: I also have that problem
[21:57] <vish> cjohnston: its all kenvandine's fault ;p
[21:57] <cjohnston> lol
[21:58] <cjohnston> poor kenvandine
[21:58] <vish> why'd he have to make gwibber so awesome that we _want_ to use it !
[21:58] <vish> its his fault ;)
[22:17] <chrisccoulson> i'm sure launchpad has sent me thousands of mails over the last couple of days
[22:19] <nigelb> chrisccoulson: I'd pay to see the look on seb's and didrocks' face when they get back
[22:20] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i think i've probably deleted 3000 mails today
[22:20] <nigelb> chrisccoulson: pedro got 13000
[22:20] <chrisccoulson> ouch
[22:20] <chrisccoulson> not cool
[22:20] <nigelb> so, we're never going to match that.
[22:48]  * cjohnston thinks he just read that if he buys kenvandine a beer kenvandine will teach him how to program
[23:06] <devildante> dang, tremolux is not here :(
[23:06] <devildante> but mvo is here :)
[23:06] <devildante> mvo: ping
[23:07] <tremolux> devildante: who says I'm not here  ;)
[23:07] <tremolux> devildante: what's up?
[23:09] <devildante> my eyes are failing me :p
[23:10] <devildante> tremolux, bug 634324 is not fixed
[23:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 634324 in software-center (Ubuntu) "software-center python-launchpadlib dependency (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/634324
[23:10] <devildante> python-launchpadlib needs to be in depends, not in suggests
[23:10] <tremolux> devildante: yep, mvo felt it should be in suggests
[23:11] <tremolux> devildante: reason is that it's not a feature that anybody will use by default, it has to be enabled with a switch at startup
[23:12] <devildante> tremolux, problem is the user reports that software-center crashes with normal options when python-launchpadlib is not present
[23:14] <tremolux> devildante: ah, ok
[23:15] <devildante> tremolux, so, is it a dependency problem, or can it be fixed with some code?
[23:15]  * devildante wonders why he is asking this, we're in FinalFreeze :p
[23:16] <tremolux> devildante: heh
[23:17] <devildante> tremolux, is there a list of bugs for USC that could get an exception for FinalFreeze?
[23:17] <tremolux> devildante: right now, there is no known bug like that, but that's at this moment
[23:17] <devildante> okay :)