[00:01] <bjf> cjwatson: i'm going to leave this system in this partially installed state in case you need any other info
[00:01] <Laney> I didn't know f-spot being demoted to universe was part of the plan.
[00:05] <lamont> doko: that guarantees at least 6 months of running an unsupported kernel, you realize.. building jaunty today on intrepid's kernel would be such a case
[00:05]  * lamont will ponder
[00:06] <doko> lamont: would you care, if you could run it on a virtual buildd?
[00:07] <bjf> cjwatson: bug 640033
[00:07] <ubot4> bjf: Bug 640033 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/640033 is private
[00:07] <doko> lamont: and why not use the distro kernel once a release is released?
[00:08] <bjf> hmmm, it shouldn't be
[00:10] <bjf> cjwatson: bug 640033
[00:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 640033 in grub-installer (Ubuntu) "maverick daily server iso (Sept. 15, 2010) fails to install grub on raided drive set (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/640033
[00:13] <lamont> doko: we already know that several packages do not build in virtual builders
[00:13] <lamont> anyway, family calling me to dinner
[00:14] <doko> lamont: -> UDS
[01:28] <wgrant> Uh, ew.
[01:28] <wgrant> Ew ew.
[11:24] <cjwatson> bjf[afk]: you didn't tell me you had dm-raid, rather than proper raid :-)  that's known-broken right now
[14:01] <bjf> cjwatson: sorry about that :-)
[14:02] <bjf> cjwatson: when will that be fixed? :-)
[14:03] <cjwatson> "soon"
[14:03] <cjwatson> it regressed due to an lvm2 update; reverting that wouldn't be a good plan, so we need to adapt
[14:04] <bjf> hmm
[15:11] <robbiew> FYI.../me will be requesting a freeze of the archive VERY soon ;)
[15:13] <nhandler> Do you guys think we could squeeze in an upload of lernid before the release? It is in universe and not seeded. Changes are also pretty minor.
[15:14] <cjwatson> universe stuff that isn't on CDs can keep going in for a while yet
[15:15] <nhandler> Great
[15:15] <cjwatson> right, apparently bug auto-closing is fixed.  now I guess I get to write a bit of launchpadlib to go and look for all the stuff that wasn't auto-closed ...
[15:17] <ogra> robbiew, dare you !
[15:18] <cjwatson> goodness me there have been a lot of uploads in the intervening time, he says as it hasn't got out of the 'a's yet
[15:18] <cjwatson> wait, no, wrong date
[15:21]  * ogra wants that armel queue to go on a diet !
[15:23] <Daviey> How much time do we have before final freeze? :)
[15:24] <ttx> depends on how hot the coffee can stay in robbiew thermos
[15:24]  * Daviey will buy robbiew a new kettle if it helps! :)
[15:24] <robbiew> Daviey: technically it was at midnight UTC today
[15:25] <ttx> right, we all know whath /that/ means
[15:25] <Daviey> robbiew, not what i wanna hear! :O
[15:29] <robbiew> Daviey: would 17:00 UTC work for you?
[15:30] <Daviey> robbiew, If that isn't causing problems for anyone, then yes, it really, really would
[15:30]  * Daviey has been fixing a "5 minute" bug, that has been taking hours.
[15:31] <robbiew> Daviey: okay...17:00 UTC it is
[15:32]  * robbiew will send an email 
[15:34] <Daviey> robbiew, Let me know when you want to collect the beer.
[15:34] <robbiew> heh
[15:34] <ttx> I thought it was a kettle.
[15:35] <ogra> with beer ?
[15:35]  * ogra imagines a big cannibal tribe kettle
[15:36] <thisfred> ohai
[15:38] <skaet> robbiew,  17:00 UTC is only for Daviey?  or are others permitted?
[15:38] <robbiew> lol
[15:38] <robbiew> others are permitted
[15:39] <robbiew> the freeze will go into effect at 17.00UTC for all
[15:39] <skaet> cool.
[15:39] <robbiew> I mean I like Daviey...but he's not THAT special
[15:39] <robbiew> :P
[15:39] <ogra> unless someone else bribes more :)
[15:39] <Daviey> my mummy said i am special.
[15:39] <robbiew> and you are....to her
[15:39] <skaet> lol
[15:41] <ogra> Daviey, http://image22.webshots.com/23/1/76/80/355917680EWuyhU_fs.jpg
[15:41] <iulian> Hmm, my mum thinks I'm stupid.
[15:42] <thisfred> We (canonical online services) have a rather important bugfix for couchdb that we'd still like to get into maverick. Bug #422178
[15:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 422178 in couchdb (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "CouchDB needs to properly enable SSL support (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/422178
[15:42] <thisfred> A new package is building on LP with that bugfix
[15:43] <Daviey> ogra, \o/
[15:45] <robbiew> thisfred: okay
[15:45] <robbiew> if you don't make it by 17.00 utc, it can still be considered for the release, but would need review/approval by the release team
[15:46] <iulian> thisfred: Looking.
[15:46] <thisfred> awesome, we should be able to make that
[15:46] <iulian> Have you got a package ready to upload?
[15:46] <iulian> Ah, it's still building.
[15:47] <thisfred> iulian: it's building now
[15:47] <ogra> it really adds more excitement to just upload it without testbuild at 16:58 UTC :)
[15:47] <thisfred> (The only reason for that is that the bug number wasn't in the changelog yet)
[15:48] <thisfred> ogra: hopefully we can arrange something like that for natty, unfortunately this time the fix came in too early ;)
[15:48] <ogra> gah, yeah, your team seems to be not busy enough !
[15:49]  * ogra makes a note to add a lot of armel specific requests for online services during natty
[15:49] <thisfred> I'll forward that as a suggestion to my evil overlords
[15:49] <ogra> heh
[15:56] <iulian> thisfred: Is chef-server-api affected by this change?  I see that python-couchdb only suggests couchdb so it shouldn't cause any trouble.
[15:57] <thisfred> iulian: I have not looked at chef-server, but i doubt it, since that uses couchdb as a local datastore it looks like?
[15:57] <ogasawara> robbiew: I was waiting to upload linux-meta till armel and powerpc finished building (which will be a while).  But I can upload it now if that's preferred, else I can ping the release team for approval after.
[15:57] <thisfred> iulian: so it should not have run into the original problem
[15:57] <iulian> thisfred: Alrighty.
[15:58] <thisfred> iulian: the bug this fixes is that replication from a couchdb on another machine over SSL was broken
[16:00] <iulian> thisfred: OK, I'm fine with it then.  Approved.
[16:01] <thisfred> iulian: awesome, thank you!
[16:02] <iulian> thisfred: Don't mention it.  Please upload it asap.
[16:02] <thisfred> as soon as it's built, I will get someone to do just that
[16:02] <iulian> Excellent.
[16:03]  * cjwatson writes a little launchpadlib program to go through all bugs that were closed since the Launchpad breakage that stopped bug auto-closure, check if the appropriate bug task isn't fix-released, and present him a bug log and the option to close each one
[16:03] <cjwatson> this won't do my karma any harm
[16:04] <cjwatson> bug 502871> example of results
[16:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 502871 in alarm-clock (Ubuntu) "Invalid MimeType in desktop file (affects: 1) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/502871
[16:04]  * ogra hand closed most of his 
[16:05] <cjwatson> so did I, but it gets tedious and I bet many people didn't
[16:05] <ogra> yeah
[16:05] <cjwatson> so I'll clean up after everyone in bulk
[16:09] <cjwatson> (the reason it has to be interactive is that I need to catch the situation where there's been chat on the bug after the point when the bug ought to have been auto-closed which indicates that the bug needs to stay open)
[16:16]  * iulian likes robbiew's e-mails. :)
[16:18] <robbiew> iulian: heh
[16:22] <robbiew> ogasawara: hmmm....not sure which would be better, tbh.
[16:24] <ogasawara> robbiew: it might be less work for the release team later if I just upload it now
[16:25] <robbiew> yeah
[16:25] <robbiew> ogasawara: go ahead
[16:25] <robbiew> who cares about armel anyway
[16:25] <robbiew> (j/k)
[16:25] <robbiew> but seriously, I agree...upload away
[16:25] <ogasawara> heh
[16:26] <ogasawara> ack
[16:28] <ScottK> robbiew: I like how you avoided using the wrong release name by not using one at all.
[16:28] <robbiew> :)...I'm learning
[16:35] <nigelb> ScottK: He's smart, we all agree :D
[16:35] <thisfred> ok, couchdb is built (though not yet published) which brings me to the next issue: I don't have a sponsor with bandwidth to do the upload for me. Seems like everyone's busy for some reason...
[16:35] <nigelb> ScottK: Also, now that mail can be reused without changes except date :D
[16:36] <iulian> thisfred: What about the last uploader?
[16:36] <thisfred> actually it *is* published now
[16:36] <thisfred> I think that was statik, he's since ascended...
[16:40] <ev> anyone mind terribly if I kick off new desktop CDs?  There's a bug in today's that prevents bootloader installation.
[16:40] <cjwatson> fine by me
[16:42] <ev> okay, cool, on it now
[16:45] <thisfred> iulian: yeah, both statik and kenvandine are overloaded with other things atm.. :(
[16:46] <thisfred> also statik is no longer on our team
[16:46] <robbiew> thisfred: but he still has the "power" :)
[16:47] <thisfred> robbiew: he does, but he's off "managing" ;)
[16:49] <cjwatson> actually, I could do with a new server build too.  I'll kick that off in parallel
[16:51] <iulian> thisfred: Arghht.  You need a core-dev then.  I don't have upload privileges to main.
[16:51] <thisfred> iulian: statik is doing it after all
[16:51] <robbiew> :)
[16:51] <iulian> thisfred: Excellent.
[16:51] <iulian> Heh. :)
[16:51] <robbiew> yeah..."managing" isn't THAT hard
[16:51] <robbiew> heh
[16:51] <iulian> Indeed.
[16:51] <thisfred> just call him a manager to his face, and he'll get mad and do it ;)
[17:01] <robbiew> t-minus one hour
[17:03] <cjwatson> ogra: FYI, queuebot should no longer have the bug where it only notices the first version of a package in the queue
[17:04] <cjwatson> which you reported in the beta cycle
[17:04] <ogra> ah, sweet
[17:25] <\sh> robbiew: would you like to make the Maverik +2 Release an "Ubuntu 11.11.11 -> The "Cologne Carnival" Release? ;)
[17:25] <cjwatson> nooooo
[17:25] <robbiew> what cjwatson said
[17:27] <\sh> that's sad...we could have celebrated the release in Cologne starting at 11:11am german time with a lot of Kölsch ;)
[17:33] <ogra> \sh, i doubt non germans understand the pun :)
[17:34] <\sh> ogra: well, yes :)
[17:37] <cjwatson> I think I must be missing it too
[17:39] <nigelb> \sh: that needed a little googling
[17:42] <\sh> the carnival season starts on the 11th of November at 11:11am German Time...and most people in cologne are starting to getting mad, drunk and happy :)
[17:47] <Daviey> robbiew, You have my permission to freeze the archive :P
[17:48] <robbiew> Daviey: heh
[17:55] <skaet> 5 minutes to go....
[17:55]  * ogra shivers
[17:56] <\sh> ogra: Don't Panic !
[17:57] <ogra> well ... i have the feeling io forgot something important all the time
[17:57] <ogra> i got my towel though
[17:58] <skaet> lol
[17:59] <\sh> ogra: your mice ;)
[18:00]  * ogra hears the chruchbell outside 
[18:01]  * skaet waiting for Robbie to be official...
[18:01] <iulian> Heh.
[18:02] <robbiew> I can feel it coming in the air tonight, Oh Lord
[18:02] <robbiew> I've been waiting for this moment, all my life, Oh Lord
[18:02] <robbiew> Can you feel it coming in the air tonight, Oh Lord, Oh Lord
[18:02] <skaet> hold on?
[18:02] <robbiew> frozen!
[18:02] <iulian> Yay!
[18:02] <\sh> "Shout It Shout It Shout It Out Loud!" ;)
[18:03] <ogra> no more "putting tongue tip on pole" now :'-( sniff
[18:04] <kenvandine> yay... now i can go to lunch :)
[19:00] <ev> Can someone let ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu 25 through?  I forgot to update the pot files before uploading the freeze-approved version 24.
[19:16]  * highvoltage wonders if anyone will find the hhgttg easter eggs hidden in edubuntu
[19:17] <highvoltage> robbiew: btw, did you know that Phil Collins played that to Richard Branson on a tape he recorded while he was still a taxi driver?
[19:17] <robbiew> highvoltage: no...no I did not
[19:18] <robbiew> heh
[19:18] <highvoltage> robbiew: yep, he forced him to listen to it and RB liked it and signed a record deal. that was quite lucky :)
[19:19] <slangasek> I didn't know Richard Branson was a taxi driver
[19:19] <highvoltage> no, I meant when Phil Collins was a taxi driver
[19:20] <slangasek> oh ;)
[19:20] <robbiew> slangasek: hey...can you tend to poor ev's request about ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu 25? :)
[19:20] <sbeattie> Was that before or after Phil Collins was in Genesis?
[19:20] <highvoltage> my english seems to have gotten even worse among the french canadians :)
[19:20] <slangasek> robbiew: ooking
[19:20] <slangasek> robbiew: looking
[19:20] <robbiew> slangasek: thnx
[19:21] <skaet> sbeattie,  got to have been before...   no need to taxi drive after Genesis.
[19:21] <slangasek> in the beginning there was the cab
[19:21] <highvoltage> sbeattie: I'm not sure, pity they don't mention it on Phil's wiki page, I read about it in Richard Branson's book, "Screw it, let's do it again"
[19:21] <sbeattie> skaet: right, but "In the Air Tonight" was post-Genesis... /me smells an urban legend, of which there are a few about that song.
[19:22] <highvoltage> skaet: yeah I believe that was the start of his musical career
[19:22] <highvoltage> (and sorry for all the noise on the channel :) )
[19:22]  * skaet suspects urban legand too...
[19:24] <highvoltage> they don't mention it on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Air_Tonight ... weird, I wouldn't suspect that they'd lie in the book. I'll have to look it up again and mail the publisher a [citation needed] :)
[19:30] <slangasek> ev: accepted
[19:40] <ev> slangasek: I owe you liquor
[19:40] <ev> thanks
[19:40] <slangasek> heh :)
[19:45] <ScottK> No queuebot?
[19:47] <cjwatson> it's here; I'll have to look at why it isn't picking anything up
[19:48] <robbiew> whew...thought I forgot to do something again :P
[20:22] <cjwatson> ScottK: seems to be nothing in the unapproved queue ...
[20:23] <ScottK> cjwatson: Not at the moment.  I've processed the ones that have arrived.
[20:23] <ScottK> That and slangasek got one.
[20:25] <cjwatson> well, I don't see why it wouldn't be working; so I'll check next time I notice that the queue's non-empty
[21:18] <ScottK> cjwatson: Queue is non-empty.
[21:37] <doko> ScottK: please approve python3-defaults and python3.1
[21:37] <cjwatson> ScottK: ah, stale lock.  cleared, should sort itself out soon
[21:37] <doko> or cjwatson ;)
[21:39] <slangasek> I can take the python review
[21:40] <slangasek> yuck, ntfs-3g soname change in NEW?
[21:43] <cjwatson> pitti gave it an FFe
[21:44] <slangasek> ok