[01:27] <Mahmoud> charlie-tca: then how does the latest version organize the menu?
[01:37] <charlie-tca> complies with freedesktop.org standards now
[01:42] <charlie-tca> looks to me like it is all in /etc/xdg/menus
[01:48] <Mahmoud> yeah, lots of files
[01:48] <Mahmoud> charlie-tca: the actual thing that I had to change was in /usr/share/applications dir
[01:49] <Mahmoud> i wanted to place thunderbird under Office
[01:49] <charlie-tca> hmm, those are the .desktop files used to build the menu
[01:49] <Mahmoud> yeah
[01:49] <Mahmoud> how does xfce build the menu so rapidly?
[01:49] <Mahmoud> does it cache?
[01:49] <Mahmoud> I didn't refresh anything myself. I just edited a file, and boom menu modified
[01:50] <charlie-tca> Normal method to change them is to copy to /home/USER/.local/applications and change it
[03:53] <jrmy> where can i get a list of applications and such that are preinstalled with xubuntu?
[04:02] <jrmy> on top of that how do i delete all the stuff that came with ubuntu so i just have xubuntu?
[07:22] <Balsaq> i booted up my 10.04 computer and the panels are gone hehe?
[07:22] <Balsaq> what is the fix for that one?
[07:28] <Balsaq> oh i just googled it and found it, hope it works...i just installed this a week or so ago and it was running fine until todats update.
[07:35] <jrmy> cool
[07:35] <jrmy> i had a prob with my gnome panels with ubuntu 10.04
[07:36] <jrmy> eventually fixed it with a reinstallation of the desktop
[07:55] <Balsaq> i just fixed it but everytime i log on the problem is back?
[07:56] <Balsaq> is their a permanent fix?
[07:56] <Sysi> panels should be permanent..
[07:57] <Balsaq> i iknow but its not
[07:57] <Balsaq> tried 3 times..the fix works, until i turn it back on
[07:58] <Balsaq> is there more than one fix?
[07:58] <Balsaq> gotta feelin im screwed
[07:59] <Sysi> try to runt that command on terminal
[08:00] <Balsaq> i ran it in terminal it worked but it comes back
[08:01] <Balsaq> somone in ubuntu gave me a slightly differnet command ill run downstairs and try it
[08:08] <Balsaq> is there something special i have to do to save these changes i have made...because both command i have used work...until i turn on and power back on?
[08:08] <Balsaq> is there a special way i have to leave terminal when i am done to keep the commands in effect?
[08:09] <Balsaq> gotta a funny feeling im gonna have to reinstall
[08:10] <Sysi> use alt+f2
[08:10] <Balsaq> yes i did that
[08:10] <Balsaq> do u mean use alt f2 when i am done to get out of terminal?
[08:11] <Sysi> alt+f2 keeps things running without terminal open
[08:12] <Sysi> you maybe could add panels to start on session
[08:12] <Sysi> settings → sessions&startup
[08:13] <Balsaq> tthis seems rather odd
[08:14] <Balsaq> this OS has been out 5 months you would think thay would have fixed this
[08:16] <Sysi> i've seen panels disappearing since hardy..
[08:21] <Balsaq> i have heard many ppl talk about it but i have never heard of the fix not working
[08:28] <Balsaq> hmm maybe if i just install a custome desktop it will fix it?
[08:29] <Balsaq> i see an article on AWN
[08:29] <Balsaq> looks like a nice desktop
[08:30] <Balsaq> just seems like i should be able to make the change in terminal and then save it
[09:57] <Balsaq> i'd like to report a new way to fix the disappearing panels
[09:59] <Balsaq> the terminal commands i was given here and in the ubuntu channel were both different. they both worked until i logged out. then the problem came back. this happened 3-4 times and it never fixed it permanently. so i finally used the command 1 lat time and this time i added a couple items to the panels. that fixed it...adding little gadgets to the panels?
[10:00] <Balsaq> i can't say i am happy abut that
[10:00] <Balsaq> makes no sence
[10:06] <knome> Balsaq, if the panel was not launched when you logged in, it's about your saved session and panel not being there
[10:07] <Balsaq> hmmm i didnt save any session or i just dont know what that means exactly
[10:07] <Balsaq> but never did i ever remove any panels
[10:07] <knome> Balsaq, when you log out, you'll have a check box to ask whether you want to save the session
[10:07] <Balsaq> or save it like that
[10:08] <Balsaq> ok well i never check a box ever
[10:08] <Balsaq> i simply turn it off
[10:08] <Balsaq> i accepted 5-6 updates and i turned the computer off after the updates like i always do and then it happened
[10:08] <knome> Balsaq, that's checked by default. AND, if the checkbox was checked the last time on a session where the panel was crashed... then you'll keep getting that session
[10:09] <Balsaq> well as i say there was never a seeion where the p[anel crashed
[10:09] <Balsaq> session*
[10:09] <Balsaq> everytime i used it the panels were always there
[10:09] <Balsaq> so i dont see how i saved a session where they crashed
[10:09] <knome> anyway, i have to
[10:10] <Balsaq> i never have to check off anything
[10:10] <knome> ... go
[10:10] <knome> :P
[10:10] <Balsaq> i just click on the lil power button and it asks me if i want to shut down ...and i do.
[10:10] <knome> maybe ask in #xubuntu-devel
[10:11] <Balsaq> it happened after an update...immediatel y after the update.
[10:11] <Balsaq> and now i had to add lil gadgets tothe panels to make the problem go away
[10:11] <Balsaq> but i really want to fix it the right way
[10:12] <Balsaq> i feel like i have a corrupted OS now
[10:14] <Balsaq> brb...
[10:51] <phil42> ircbot help
[10:52] <Sysi> !investigation > phil42
[12:13] <Oph5pr1n6> how much less resouces does xubuntu use than regular ubuntu?
[12:22] <phil42> idunno,  try the live cd and see  :)
[12:22] <phil42> i am running it diskless now
[12:34] <gnomefreak> what is the file browaer used in xfce?
[12:36] <knome> gnomefreak, the file browser is thunar, about browaer i don't know ;]
[12:36] <gnomefreak> menu entry would bre great but i can look for it as long as i have the name
[12:36] <gnomefreak> morning bazhang
[12:36] <bazhang> gnomefreak, hey
[12:36] <gnomefreak> knome: thanks i thought so
[12:36] <knome> gnomefreak, np
[13:01] <jrmy> any of you know how to remove the ubuntu installation from my computer?
[13:02] <bazhang> !puregnome
[13:02] <jrmy> !purexfce
[13:02] <jrmy> either way thanks
[13:02] <jrmy> lol
[13:03] <bazhang> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[13:03] <bazhang> whoops sorry
[13:05] <jrmy> so does xubuntu come with firefox?
[13:06] <jrmy> perhaps you can direct me to the list of programs that come with xubuntu?
[13:06] <jrmy> bazhang
[13:08] <bazhang> jrmy, the puregnome link has a lot of them
[13:10] <jrmy> well time to try it
[13:19] <jrmy> this is gonna take awhile isnt it?
[13:27] <jrmy> all done
[13:27] <jrmy> time to relogin
[14:24] <slow-motion> hi
[14:31] <Pres-Gas> Hello, slow-motion
[14:33] <knome> slow-motion, did you get my message about removing your automatic join "message"? please do it, since it is obtrusive and leads people thinking somebody needs help in the channel even if they don't.
[14:35] <subspider> hi
[14:36] <subspider> my wireless just heve wpa-personal
[14:36] <subspider> how do have wpa-enterpreise
[14:36] <subspider> ??
[14:37] <Pres-Gas> subspider, I think we need some clarification.  Do you want your computer to connect to a wireless network that uses wpa enterprise?
[14:37] <subspider> yes
[14:38] <Pres-Gas> What version of Xubu are you running, subspider?
[14:38] <subspider> wait let me see
[14:40] <subspider> Pres-Gas, Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
[14:40] <subspider> lucid
[14:42] <Pres-Gas> You know for sure the wireless network you want to connect to is wpa enterprise?
[15:44] <subspider> Pres-Gas, yes
[15:44] <subspider> is my university
[15:44] <subspider> eduroam
[15:44] <subspider> wpa entreprise
[16:41] <slow-motion> bbl
[17:47] <subspider> does anyone knows how to eneble wpa enterprise ??
[17:48] <Sysi> it isn't in dropdown menu?
[17:48] <subspider> no
[17:48] <subspider> Hello Sysi
[17:48] <subspider> can you help me
[17:48] <subspider> ??
[17:49] <charlie-tca> !wpa
[17:49] <subspider> cus university conection uses wpa enterprise
[17:49] <charlie-tca> I wonder if the name changes in windows vs linux?
[17:50] <Sysi> have you tried to connect woth passwd?
[17:52] <subspider> no didn't tryed
[17:53] <subspider> i saw no wpa entreprise i just went out
[17:53] <subspider> cus i needed wireless
[17:54] <knome> !u | subspider
[20:30] <slow-motion> hi