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ronocTheMuso, ping02:02
* ronoc changes CD02:02
TheMusoronoc: Hey.02:02
ronocTheMuso, how's it looking ?02:03
TheMusoronoc: Not too bad. I reported that segfault upstream.02:03
ronocTheMuso, cool the one i reassigned earlier ?02:03
TheMusoI could revert the commit that caused the segfault, but the commit was added to the stable queue because it fixed stability woth other software.02:03
TheMusoronoc: Yes.02:03
ronocnice02:03
TheMusoI dare say we will have a fix in a couple of days.02:04
ronocgrand I'll keep an eye02:04
ronocall n all it's looking alright02:04
ronocwas testing jack202:04
ronocperformance so so02:04
ronocalso the pulse interaction was not convincing02:05
ronocbut maybe I need to look so more02:05
ronocs/so/some02:05
ronocanyhoo gotta crash02:05
TheMusoah ok.02:05
TheMusoNo worries, amazed your up so late.02:05
ronocgig, a few beers, checking email too late :)02:05
ronocgood night dude02:05
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didrocksgood morning07:26
didrocksRAOF: hey, are you around?07:46
pittiGood morning07:55
didrocksgood morning pitti08:04
pittihey didrocks, how are you?08:04
didrockspitti: I'm fine, thanks. My moving part 1 has been done (Paris -> Annecy), just need to give back the keys today08:07
pittioh, great to hear!08:07
didrockshow are you?08:07
pittididrocks: how's the new flat like?08:07
pittididrocks: pretty good! yesterday was a bit intersting with all the pre-freeze stuff :)08:08
pittididrocks: btw, yesterday I made p-d-e work for python3, and uploaded to experimental08:08
pittii. e. there's a new python3-d-e package now08:08
didrockspitti: it's 75m2 in Lyon center. it will be available end of november - mid december depending on the date the seller want to move08:08
didrockspitti: oh, good to hear!08:08
pittiI didn't yet provide a python3-mkdebian yet, that's still on the list08:08
pittibut the actual build system works now08:08
didrockshow was the transition?08:08
pittirequired quite a few code changes and updates, but now it's all test case'd and working08:09
pittididrocks: the main thing that blocks python3-mkdebian is the lack of either cdbs python3 support, or a debhelper rewrite of langpack.mk08:09
pittiwe need the latter at some point anyway, so I put that on my todo list08:10
didrockspitti: good. If you don't have the time before UDS, I'll add it to my list as well, as we will probably have more and more packages with dh708:11
pittididrocks: I'm sure we discussed that already, but do you remember whether we found out which package should ship the plugin and sequencer?08:11
pittiit'd be great if we could just take the unmodified gnome dh7 packages from debian and plug it in so that they will use langpack.mk automatically08:11
pittijust what we have with gnome.mk today08:12
didrockspitti: I don't think we decided yet, but debian was opened to a --with gnome IIRC08:12
pittiah, good08:12
pittignome-pkg-tools then, I think08:12
didrocksright08:12
RAOFdidrocks: I am now.08:12
pittihey RAOF, how are you?08:12
didrocksRAOF: hey, playing with mesa fun apparently? :-)08:12
RAOFdidrocks: Yeah, that was a bit of a fiasco.  I hadn't tracked the clutter patch all the way into the archive, so when mesa hit clutter broke :(08:13
didrocksRAOF: when I was in the trunk and I read "unity broken", I just feared that I made a huge mistake before leaving for two days…08:14
didrocksand then, I saw it was because of mesa08:14
RAOFpitti:  A little jet lagged still, surprisingly.  Arriving in the morning doesn't suit me :)08:14
didrocksRAOF: yeah, I saw you uploaded a fix, right? do you think we can remove the workaround now?08:14
didrocks(unfortunately, I don't have intel GPU today)08:15
RAOFYeah, we can remove the workaround(s).  The unity-default-settings “turn off vblank” workaround has already been reverted; I need to check that we've dropped the mesa diff, too.08:15
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didrocksRAOF: oh, ok, still have some hundreds of mails to read, scary… didn't see it's already reverted. Great!08:16
pittiRAOF: oh, where have you been?08:17
RAOFpitti: I'm in Toulouse, at XDS.08:17
RAOFSo it's actually the morning for me, too :)08:17
didrocksRAOF: nice, how is the weather? :)08:18
RAOFWednesday was nice and hot and sunny, but it's now got cooler and overcast and drizzly.08:19
ajmitchRAOF: so you've heard what it's like back home?08:19
RAOFI've heard that it's cold and wet and windy.08:20
slomodidrocks: or somebody else, do you know when seb128 will be back? and who should be subscribed to freeze exception bugs?10:12
slomoubuntu-release?10:12
didrocksslomo: seb128 will be back in one week and half10:13
slomofor main that is10:13
slomook10:13
didrocksslomo: sponsoring or sync request?10:13
didrocks(don't remember if you have main upload rights)10:13
slomoi have, yes... it's not a sync but a new upstream version10:14
slomopitivi 0.13.4.3 -> 0.13.510:14
slomotranslation changes and a single bugfix10:14
didrocksok, ubuntu-release then and hunt for them :)10:14
slomoand i have to merge some annoying launchpad integration changes :P otherwise it would be just a sync from debian10:14
didrockspitti: wil you have some time for that? ^ (I'll have some for the unity stack as well)10:15
didrocksslomo: we should really do this vendor patch10:15
didrocksthat*10:15
didrocksI think robert was interested in it10:15
didrockswould be wayyy nicer :)10:15
slomovendor patch?10:16
slomoanyway, i'll do the bugreport and the merge in the afternoon10:17
didrocksslomo: yeah, some way of adding hook in upstream like placeholders and just linking to a binding10:19
didrocksslomo: thanks :)10:19
slomoheh, good luck with getting this upstream ;)10:19
slomoif one distribution comes and wants something like this it's only a matter of time until more come and then there are 100 changes for 1000 distributions ;)10:20
pittihello didrocks10:29
pittididrocks: time for the pitivi update?10:29
didrocksRe pitti ;)10:29
pittididrocks: I need to get something done today, would Monday be enough?10:30
didrockspitti: slomo ? ^^10:30
didrocksI think so10:30
slomosure10:30
slomoas long as it gets done before the release i'm happy :P10:30
didrockspitti: will you just have some time this afternoon for an ack on unity stack update?10:30
didrocks(still catching up on mails from last 2 days, hope to do the release this afternoon soon enough)10:31
pittididrocks: yes, I'll have a look at it; just sub u-release, then I'll get the mail10:31
didrocksthanks!10:31
chrisccoulsonhi pitti - i'm not sure who to poke about bug 632760, or if there's anything else i can do with it11:34
ubot2Launchpad bug 632760 in language-pack-pt (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Language variants don't work in Firefox because the language codes are separated with an underscore rather than a hyphen in chrome.manifest (affects: 1) (heat: 437)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63276011:34
didrocksdpm: there is a typo fix for u-p-f, do you know if it was already translated? (I see no bug report about it)11:37
dpmdidrocks, what kind of fix? (I remember having seen a bug, but I'm not sure it's the same we're talking about)11:46
dpmbug 63730511:47
ubot2Launchpad bug 637305 in unity-place-files (and 2 other projects) "Bad string in unity-place-files (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63730511:47
didrocksargh, I didn't find that one. let me check11:47
didrocksdpm: ok, it was that one11:48
didrocksnot sure why kamstrup fixed release the package11:48
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dpmit might be worth sending an e-mail to ubuntu-translators and ubuntu-doc, although it seems that the template has not been imported yet11:49
didrocksdpm: ok, duplicate fixed. Making the upload first :)11:49
dpmok :)11:50
didrocksdpm: not sure I'll have the time to deal with all emails there, we will have also a new string next week, maybe it'll be the good time to say "hey, there is unity"11:50
dpmdidrocks, I can help you with the e-mails if you want. We've already announced unity to translators. If there are more changes next week, translators might not have time to transalate them, we're well past string freeze11:51
pittichrisccoulson: you mean to apply the po2xpi patch?11:51
didrocksdpm: I know… but not my call on that :)11:51
chrisccoulsonpitti - yeah, and rebuild the broken langpacks11:52
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pittichrisccoulson: patch applied12:06
chrisccoulsonpitti - excellent, thanks12:06
pittioh, and fixed the double '12:07
chrisccoulsonpitti - oh, thanks. i only just noticed that ;)12:08
slomodidrocks, pitti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pitivi/+bug/641206  does this look good in general or do you need more information?12:14
ubot2Launchpad bug 641206 in pitivi (Ubuntu) "Freeze Exception: Update pitivi 0.13.4.3 to 0.13.5 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]12:14
didrocksslomo: sounds good, maybe you can tell which bugfix it is and everything should be good12:14
pittislomo: thanks! approved12:15
slomodidrocks: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61520212:16
ubot2Gnome bug 615202 in source list "[regression] "import folder of clips" doesn't work" [Blocker,Verified: fixed]12:16
didrocksthanks slomo :)12:16
slomook, thanks pitti :)12:16
slomodidrocks: what has to be done for other uploads that are no new upstream version? same procedure?12:19
didrocksslomo: we are in final freeze, so yeah, every upload should be accepted by the release team12:20
didrockshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FinalFreeze12:21
slomothanks12:21
slomodidrocks, pitti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gst-plugins-good0.10/+bug/641218   not that urgent but should be easy and if you have a free minute or two...12:41
ubot2Launchpad bug 641218 in gst-plugins-good0.10 (Ubuntu) "Freeze Exception: Backport 0.10.24-3 and 0.10.24-4 changes from Debian (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]12:41
didrocksslomo: I can't approve Freeze Exception ;) pitti is your best chance! :p12:42
slomook :)12:42
didrockspitti: ok, so unity update done. You should have in the stack (I only subscribe the release team at least for one bug each component): bamf, clutk, unity, unity-place-files, unity-asset-pool and libzeitgeist!13:07
chrisccoulsonhi didrocks13:17
didrockshey chrisccoulson, how are you?13:17
chrisccoulsondidrocks, i'm good thanks, how are you?13:17
didrockschrisccoulson: busy, but good! thanks ;)13:17
chrisccoulsonit's been fairly quiet in here the last couple of days ;)13:19
didrocksare you telling French guys are talkative? :)13:23
chrisccoulsonheh :)13:24
chrisccoulsondidrocks - let me know if there's anything you want help with for desktop stuff13:25
chrisccoulsonall of my firefox bugs are currently blocked on other people, so i can do some other work in the meantime13:25
didrockschrisccoulson: right now, I just finished catching up on email and unity, so that's good :) did you advance on the bug list we discussed on Tuesday during the meeting?13:26
didrockslike the gsd crash and such?13:26
chrisccoulsondidrocks - i fixed the gsd crash already :)13:27
didrockswaow :-)13:27
chrisccoulsoni'll have a look at the others actually13:27
didrockschrisccoulson: feel free to pick from the bugs assigned to the team13:27
didrockschrisccoulson: ping me if you need more :-)13:27
didrocksI'll prepare a list next Monday13:28
chrisccoulsonthanks13:28
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pittididrocks: currently reviewing; one small prob in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/unity-place-files/+bug/63730513:56
ubot2Launchpad bug 637305 in unity-place-files (and 2 other projects) "Bad string in unity-place-files (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [High,Triaged]13:56
didrockspitti: I've subscribed the translators, isn't it?13:57
pittididrocks: right, I meant patching the included .po files upstream13:57
didrockspitti: and TBH, the pot still wasn't imported to launchpad13:57
pittito update the msgids for the typo13:57
pittior aren't there any?13:57
didrocksyeah, the fix has landed Tuesday to get it13:57
didrocksand it's still not imported13:58
pittiI mean, does the upstream orig.tar.gz has any po/*.po?13:58
didrockspitti: no, there isn't any13:58
didrocks(well, just a string of test :))13:58
pittiok14:02
didrockspitti: thanks for accepting them :)14:16
hallynwell, i hopped over here to see if there was a huge flood of ppl screaming that their mouse stopped working after last night's update, but i guess not.  drat!14:27
dpmdidrocks, on bug 637305, it's not a problem, but it's enough to add an ubuntu-translations task to the bug. No need to subscribe ubuntu-translations-bug-supervisors. Thanks!14:38
ubot2Launchpad bug 637305 in unity-place-files (and 2 other projects) "Bad string in unity-place-files (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63730514:38
didrocksdpm: ok, thanks for the notice, will know for next time :)14:38
dpmdidrocks, ok, cool, thanks ;)14:38
didrocksdpm: thank you :)14:38
jcastrotedg: any idea why inkscape .48 didn't make it into maverick?14:51
tedgjcastro, There was a freeze request...14:52
didrockskenvandine: did you update the -settings package?14:52
kenvandineyeah, i'll upload and get it approved soon14:52
kenvandinedidrocks, preparing for the release team meeting :)14:53
tedgjcastro, bug 62804814:53
ubot2Launchpad bug 628048 in baltix (and 1 other project) "[FFe] Please merge inkscape (universe) with version 0.48.0-1 from Debian experimental main (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 28)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62804814:53
didrockskenvandine: awesome. Thanks! (and good luck ;))14:53
kenvandinehehe14:53
jcastrotedg: ah ok so it was approved, so something else happened14:54
tedgjcastro, Yup, I'm not sure what.  Honestly, at that point in the process I get a little hazy.14:54
tedgjcastro, That's the "ask kenvandine" part of the process :)14:54
Laneytedg: jcastro: it waits for sponsoring14:54
jcastroLaney: that's what I feared, heh14:54
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kenvandinejcastro, i can't upload to universe :)14:55
Laneyit's in main14:55
kenvandineoh14:55
jcastrotedg: other than you, is there an upstream contact we have at inkscape?14:56
Laneyit's in the ubuntu-desktop set14:56
chrisccoulsonkenvandine, when are you going to apply for MOTU? ;)14:56
Laneyso desktop devs and core-devs can sponsor it14:56
jcastrotedg: the kind of person that can start poking us when things like this happen, except NOT on the day after freeze.14:56
kenvandinesoon... i started to prepare for that a couple weeks ago14:56
tedgjcastro, bryceh is another good one.  Also Scisalac but he's not online now.14:56
kenvandinebut it's been one fire after another...14:56
* kenvandine blames tedg14:56
chrisccoulsonkenvandine, yeah, i know what you mean ;)14:56
jcastrotedg: if you run into scisalac send him my way (no rush) - I'll enlist him to be our contact.14:57
* tedg thinks that kenvandine should send out some sort of indicator that he indicates to apply14:57
chrisccoulsonseb128 keeps asking me when i'm going to apply for core-dev, but i just keep getting distracted ;)14:57
kenvandineand the past 2 days... whew... a marathon!14:57
Laneyit's got a freeze exception so...14:57
kenvandinetedg, bryceh can upload it :)14:57
jcastroLaney: so what's the next step, release team?14:57
* kenvandine can't even figure out how to use inkscape :)14:57
Laneyjcastro: no, it's approved. next step: hassle a sponsor14:57
* chrisccoulson deletes jaunty VM and free's up some space. won't be needing that anymore \o/14:57
Laneyjcastro: I assume that pre-final freeze exceptions carry over14:58
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Laneypitti can confirm14:58
jcastrowho's got time to sponsor this? They've been working on .48 for like 9 months and the exception was filed a while back, it'd be sad to let them down14:58
chrisccoulsonjcastro, sponsoring for inkscape?14:59
jcastroyeah14:59
chrisccoulsonjcastro, i can do that then15:01
jcastrothat would be fantastic15:01
* bilalakhtar wishes to know what the discussion is about15:04
jcastrooh nothing, just making sure we don't ship an old inkscape15:05
bilalakhtarinky winky!15:05
chrisccoulsonjcastro, ok, the inkscape merge looks good. i'm just test building it now though, so will upload it once i've checked it runs ok15:40
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jcastrochrisccoulson: thanks dude. <315:45
jcastrocan anyone reproduce bug 627744?16:35
ubot2Launchpad bug 627744 in tomboy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "note names are blank in applet menu (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 229)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62774416:35
jcastroneither myself nor karl can reproduce it16:35
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pittigood night everyone! have a nice weekend17:56
didrocksenjoy your week-end pitti!17:57
didrockstime for week-end here too18:24
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annonhi. I just installed 10.04.1 LTS with full disk encryption, but every time it boots up my monitor says "video mode not supported" before I can even enter the password to unlock /. what can I do about it? it has to be a setting in /boot since this is the only partition not encrypted at this point.19:26
cyphermoxannon: you may want to ask in #ubuntu instead19:45
brycehwho maintains the packaging for firefox these days?19:46
annoncyphermox: I already have, 4 times, no reply. and since it's the desktop version I thought this channel is more appropriate and not so overcrowded.19:46
nigelbbryceh: I think you want to talk to chrisccoulson :)19:47
brycehok19:47
chrisccoulsonmy ears are burning19:48
nigelbhaha19:48
cyphermoxannon, please be patient, as you say there is a lot of people in #ubuntu. you could also try to type in the password in the blank after a minute, so you have a chance of getting to a desktop to fix the issue (unless that's already what you've done)19:50
annoncyphermox: already tried that.19:51
CybolicDoes anyone know how to use markup in an appindicator menu-item?20:03
jcastroCybolic: appindicator support is in #ayatana20:14
jcastroCybolic: you're looking for tedg when you get there20:14
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Cybolicjcastro, oh, I see I'm late, sorry. I'll head over to #ayatana then, thanks. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators should be changed by the way, it suggests this channel.21:06
jcastroCybolic: oh, I'll fix that21:11
Cybolicjcastro, excellent :)21:12
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