[10:57] <ara> ev, I am on holidays today, but I prepared the tracker to test ubiquity 2.3.19 and sent the call for testing
[10:58] <ara> ev, I won't be able to test it today, but, go there later today to see if people have been testing
[10:58] <ara> in case something important comes up
[10:58] <cjwatson> ev: we should remember to bump ubiquity's version to 2.4.0 at some point
[10:58] <ev> ara:  thanks!
[10:58] <ara> http://pairwise.qa.ubuntu.com
[10:58] <ev> cjwatson: indeed
[10:58] <ara> ev, in any case, I will try to cover the remaining testcases on Monday
[10:59] <cjwatson> ara: FWIW I've finally managed to find my Windows product key so I'll be doing some Wubi testing, and trying to nail down the grub packaging bug that causes upgrade confusion
[10:59] <ara> cjwatson, great, thanks!
[10:59] <ara> going offline now. Have a nice Friday and weekend!
[10:59] <cjwatson> I'll need to set up firewall rules before then; no Windows machine gets to talk to the outside world from here ;-)
[11:00] <ev> heh
[11:01] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4369 trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py): Do not show the quit button in OEM mode.
[11:21] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4370 trunk/debian/ (changelog control): Depend on aptdaemon (LP: #641051).
[11:24] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4371 trunk/ (debian/changelog gui/gtk/ubiquity.ui): Fix the skip download button (LP: #628311).
[11:44] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4372 maverick-cleanup/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ready_text_label doesn't exist anymore.
[11:44] <ev> ^ I'm removing dead code in a branch that I'll propose for merging into trunk
[11:49] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4373 maverick-cleanup/ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py: debconf_progress_window doesn't exist anymore.
[11:58] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4374 maverick-cleanup/ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py: Remove dead code in gtk_ui.
[12:22] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4375 maverick-cleanup/ (12 files in 8 dirs): The advanced dialog and summary page don't exist anymore.
[12:28]  * ev stumbles onto http://pycheesecake.org/wiki/PythonTestingToolsTaxonomy
[12:56] <soren> ev: Wow. Would I have loved to have found that earlier.
[14:17] <ev> http://people.canonical.com/~evand/tmp/clone-digger-is-awesome.html
[14:18] <shtylman> fancy
[14:58] <smagoun> cjwatson: Hey, FWIW I got the 10.10 amd64 Beta to boot/install on my Macbook Pro 3,1 by remastering the CD. Thanks for your help yesterday.
[14:58] <cjwatson> smagoun: wait, remastering the CD was just meant to give more information ...
[14:58] <cjwatson> I wasn't expecting it to fix it
[14:58] <cjwatson> smagoun: you remastered with isolinux-debug?
[14:59] <smagoun> cjwatson: I copied the contents of the CD to a temp dir, deleted the 'boot' dir on the CD, then ran mkisofs on the tmpdir to make a new .iso. Then I burned to CD. I had a couple false starts, forgot to enable long filenames and copy over .disk.
[15:01] <smagoun> cjwatson: I used a 10.10 i386 beta install to do the remastering, not sure if that's relevant
[15:02] <cjwatson> so it's purely the multi-catalog nature that matters?
[15:02] <cjwatson> well, we can release-note that some machines will have trouble and will need to use i386, I suppose
[15:02] <smagoun> cjwatson: I didn't confirm that, but that's my hunch
[15:02] <cjwatson> but it would be nice to remaster with isolinux-debug *and* the EFI stuff
[15:02] <cjwatson> just to see if it's even getting in there
[15:04] <smagoun> cjwatson: I believe the "Select CD-ROM Boot Type" prompt that I got stuck at comes from the firmware on the machine - is isolinux even in play at that point?
[15:04] <cjwatson> I don't know enough about it to be sure.  It's possible for instance that it's being entered but failing
[15:04] <smagoun> fair point
[15:05] <smagoun> I won't have a chance to look at it until next week at the earliest, but I'll try to make time to check out isolinux-debug
[17:26] <dpm> thanks ev for the detailed e-mail on string changes in ubiquity and the slideshow
[17:26] <ev> sure thing
[17:26] <dpm> :)
[18:41] <cody-somerville> What tries to install installation-report during d-i install?
[18:42] <cjwatson> /usr/lib/post-base-installer.d/50save-logs
[20:07] <ameetp> cjwatson, installer team:  Some of you already spoke with fader about this, but heads-up on bug 641259.  Let us know if we can provide you with any more information
[20:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 641259 in grub2 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "grub does not appear to load after maverick post-beta install (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/641259
[20:13] <cjwatson> ameetp: as I said to fader, debugging this sort of thing remotely is extraordinarily hard and I'm going to be extremely reliant on people with local access figuring stuff out
[20:14] <cjwatson> I suppose you could try the grub-install --debug-image=all thing again, but it was pretty uninformative the last time - I'd need more than the last screenful
[20:15] <ameetp> cjwatson:  yes, that makes sense.  We will support you
[20:15] <ameetp> cjwatson:  sure we can try that again
[20:23] <charlie-tca> should the installer offer to install third party software when selecting Free-Software Only?
[20:24] <cjwatson> third party?  well, is it free?
[20:24] <cjwatson> do you mean extras.ubuntu.com?
[20:25] <cjwatson> everything there is free software, I'm told
[20:28] <superm1> is he perhaps meaning the checkbox on the prepare page for 3rd party software?  like flash and mp3 etc
[20:30] <charlie-tca> I don't think so. It's for playing mp3
[20:30] <charlie-tca> superm1: that's the one
[20:31] <charlie-tca> It seems wrong to offer that at all if the user has selected F6-Free software only at the boot menu
[20:35] <charlie-tca> OTOH, the installer is working and I don't want to break it
[22:44] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4376 maverick-cleanup/ubiquity/ (26 files in 6 dirs): Get rid of wildcard imports.
[22:48] <ev> superm1: any idea how well the minis support wake on lan, and if I they wake from S5?
[22:49] <ev> the Internet is proving unhelpful
[22:49] <ev> 10n, specifically
[23:00] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: oh, I see what you mean.  I don't think it should
[23:00] <cjwatson> part of the point of that option was to be FSF-friendly, which means it shouldn't even display the option
[23:01] <charlie-tca> thanks for looking
[23:01] <charlie-tca> should I file a bug?
[23:01] <cjwatson> please
[23:01] <charlie-tca> Okay
[23:04] <superm1> ev, not from cold boot they don't - but they should from a warm boot.
[23:05] <superm1> Keybuk experimented with all the permutations in linux, he could tell you the latest results he had better than i know current results though
[23:13] <ev> okay, thanks
[23:41] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4377 maverick-cleanup/ubiquity/ (wrap_label.py frontend/gtk_ui.py): Remove the no longer used wrap_label.
[23:44] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4378 maverick-cleanup/ (10 files in 5 dirs): Clean up some more unused imports and variables.
[23:48] <charlie-tca> cjwatson: bug 641676
[23:48] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 641676 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity installer gives options to install non-free software during Install using Free-software only option (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/641676
[23:54] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4379 maverick-cleanup/ubiquity/plugins/ (ubi-console-setup.py ubi-timezone.py ubi-usersetup.py): Don't import LabelledEntry. The Glade catalog does this for us.
[23:57] <cody-somerville> Are there problems with the final_apt_preferences waypoint in Maverick?
[23:59] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4380 maverick-cleanup/ubiquity/plugins/ (ubi-language.py ubi-prepare.py ubi-usersetup.py): Remove unused KDE imports.