[00:18] <mrand> you can't just remove the package?
[00:26] <superm1> it's a kernel module
[00:26] <superm1> if you install the closed source driver it will deactivate it
[02:18] <Gibby> superm1; that is what i am trying it won't let me install it since nouveau is in use
[02:19] <Gibby> think i found my issue though since i am using diskless....
[02:33] <superm1> Gibby, oh this is with diskless...
[02:33] <superm1> that probably complicates things in some ways
[02:52] <Gibby> superm1, got it working finally :) and with sound out the hdmi
[02:52] <Gibby> just got back from class, so a fresh look at it helped
[02:53] <Gibby> playing the vdpau high
[03:02] <fluvvell> anyone familiar with firestarter firewall, and how to get it to allow dhcp for my client machines?
[03:04] <superm1> Gibby, i think you would be the best person to help us get the diskless GUI alive agian for 11.04 :)
[03:04] <superm1> since you're figuring out the hacks and what not that are necessary
[03:04] <superm1> try to keep notes of everything you're having to do for making stuff work
[03:09] <Gibby> that i do, i never even saw any reference to a gui
[03:10] <Gibby> fluvvell: firestarter shouldn't block dhcp
[03:12] <fluvvell> Gibby, yeah its the 255.255.255.255 broadcast request for dhcp that seems to not be being answered
[03:15] <asphere> My xfce task bar stopped getting covered up by mythfrontend
[03:16] <asphere> autohide of task bar is ok... ish
[03:16] <asphere> better fix out there?
[03:17] <Gibby> i never had the problem and i don't have any policies
[03:18] <fluvvell> I'm using a gsm stick, ppp0 and wanting to run clients off eth0.  I've got a wireless ap on it and the clients auth fine but the requests are being logged at the syslog level and the client gives up after getting no ip address.
[03:22] <Gibby_away> fluvvell: just add the whole subnet
[03:27] <fluvvell> yeah, but it doesn't have an ip address at this stage, and I can't seem to just allow all on eth0
[03:28] <superm1> Gibby_away, yeah the GUI has needed to be reworked for the current MCC api
[03:28] <superm1> no one has done that yet
[03:45] <fluvvell> Gibby_away, what is your network setup ?
[18:30] <henk_> Anybody experience with smartcard readers? Mine keeps saying "EHStatusHandlerThread() Error powering up card." (yes, I'm trying to 'share' the card with myself)
[18:54] <_olo_> !help
[18:54] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[21:40] <ComradeHaz`> Eveing all. Just settled down to watch a dvd iso and everytime I tried to play one I just got a blank screen. Killing that gets me back to a blank screen with a curser but trying to restart mythfrontend throws mythfrontend.real: cannot connect to X server
[21:40] <ComradeHaz`> any ideas wtf's gone wrong?!
[21:41] <rhpot1991> drm?
[21:41] <ComradeHaz`> Nope, all drm free.
[21:41] <rhpot1991> some sort of unsupported dvd/menu system?
[21:42] <ComradeHaz`> But it's the not being able to start frontend that's really odd
[21:42] <ComradeHaz`> Nah, played it before.
[21:42] <rhpot1991> ComradeHaz`: is it in iso form?
[21:42] <ComradeHaz`> About to watch second episod on the dvd
[21:42] <ComradeHaz`> Yes.
[21:42] <rhpot1991> not in a storage group?
[21:42] <rhpot1991> !iso
[21:42] <Zinn> Storage Groups are a streaming method of transmitting material to a frontend, meaning they don't provide block-level access to the file in question. An ISO is a disk image, and requires block-level access. Upstream has a plan to simulate a block device across the network using NBD for 0.24. Until then you can use the following workaround: http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/7
[21:42] <ComradeHaz`> nah on nfs
[21:43] <ComradeHaz`> As I say, it worked before and it's the not being able to start frontend that's odd
[21:43] <ComradeHaz`> also xfce doesn't seem to be running propperly
[21:43] <ComradeHaz`> there's no menu bar....
[21:43] <ComradeHaz`> Really wierd.
[21:45] <ComradeHaz`> .... and I cannot vnc it which is also very unusual
[21:45] <ComradeHaz`> something seems to have broken :S
[21:47] <rhpot1991> ComradeHaz`: tried rebooting since this happened?
[21:47] <rhpot1991> sounds like something is out of whack
[21:47]  * rhpot1991 waits to get yelled at from hads
[21:48] <ComradeHaz`> yeah, the machine is mostly off
[21:48] <ComradeHaz`> not using backend functionalities yet
[21:49]  * ComradeHaz` <---- noob to Myth TV
[21:49] <ComradeHaz`> But yeah, truth is, something has happened.
[21:49] <ComradeHaz`> OOps.
[21:49] <rhpot1991> sounds like an issue with your session which should be resolved by restarting or logging out and back in
[21:49] <ComradeHaz`> I have replaced all hardware except GPU and HDD :D
[21:49] <ComradeHaz`> As I say, rebooted numerous times.
[21:50] <ComradeHaz`> Rebooting is pretty much the only way to get out of it when it freezes
[21:50] <ComradeHaz`> Just got a flashing red screen :S
[21:50] <hads> rhpot1991: It's too early for yelling I just had breakfast :)
[21:51] <ComradeHaz`> OK, so when it crashes, I think it crashes the whole of XFCE
[21:52] <ComradeHaz`> how can I run thing such that I get a debug?
[21:52] <ComradeHaz`> I believe I have got debugging installed / enabled?
[21:52] <ComradeHaz`> *-?
[21:54] <ComradeHaz`> OK, getting 'Timed out waiting for video buffers' if I run from terminal
[22:17] <Gibby> ComradeHaz`: frontend logs?
[22:21] <ComradeHaz`> Ah. People are alive :D I just grabbed a spare HDD to do a fresh install on.
[22:21] <Gibby> scrap that :) diskless... :) i know.. i know.... but yes /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log pastebin it
[22:22] <ComradeHaz`> Well. Actually, things are a little, uh, interesting.
[22:22] <ComradeHaz`> Video output goes blank for install.
[22:23]  * ComradeHaz` suspects whatever issue is manifesting itself here may be the cause of his problems once booted.
[22:23] <ComradeHaz`> Note again, I have stuck the HDD and GPU into a new box
[22:27]  * ComradeHaz` is perplexed
[22:30] <Gibby> did you try a livecd?
[22:31] <ComradeHaz`> Yeah, that's what I'm playing with.
[22:31] <ComradeHaz`> Get the menue
[22:31] <ComradeHaz`> ie Try withut installing, install, check cd etc
[22:31] <Gibby> install openssh-server so you can grab the logs while it happens
[22:32] <ComradeHaz`> Well, as I say, I now have a blank hdd in there.
[22:33] <ComradeHaz`> and given I am not even able to get the installer to disply on this box, I'm thinking it's not,iking some part of the hardware
[22:33] <ComradeHaz`> I can stick the other drive back in I suppose
[22:34] <ComradeHaz`> as I say, it throws 'Timed out waiting for video buffers' when I try and play an iso
[22:35] <ComradeHaz`> though does at least boot
[22:35] <Gibby> put the iso on the frontend and try it
[22:35] <Gibby> also you can try playing it with VLC over your NFS setup
[22:36] <ComradeHaz`> :D I AM
[22:36] <ComradeHaz`> I only have one Myth box
[22:36] <ComradeHaz`> not using backend functions yet
[22:36] <ComradeHaz`> just using to play video files acquired from elsewhare atm
[22:37] <ComradeHaz`> So, could you humour me and help me troubleshoot not being able to install!
[22:37] <Gibby> ahh ok but the ISO is on another computer and mounted via NFS right?
[22:38] <ComradeHaz`> Yes.
[22:38] <ComradeHaz`> Not being able to install becasue as soon as I hit try without installing or install, the video output drops off.
[22:38] <ComradeHaz`> no tty's working at all.
[22:40] <Gibby> does that disc work in another machine?
[22:40] <ComradeHaz`> Yeah
[22:41] <Gibby> as of today?
[22:42] <ComradeHaz`> I can hear it's carrying on loading.
[22:42] <Gibby> is it on board video or add in card?
[22:43] <ComradeHaz`> I imagine it's booting all the way to the desktp when I hit try without installing.
[22:43] <ComradeHaz`> both, using add-in.
[22:43] <ComradeHaz`> pretty sure other is disabled.
[22:43] <Gibby> do you have antoher monitor to plug in to both?
[22:43] <ComradeHaz`> let's see.
[22:44] <ComradeHaz`> 'No signal'
[22:45] <ComradeHaz`> Machine is pingable.
[22:46] <Gibby> ugh, i hate on call week
[22:47] <ComradeHaz`> :S
[22:47] <ComradeHaz`> On call for anything exciting?!
[22:47]  * ComradeHaz` is on call but enjoys the shouts!
[22:49] <Gibby> on call for solaris/hpux/aix/red hat/suse
[22:49] <ComradeHaz`> :S
[22:49] <Gibby> about 450 servers
[22:50]  * ComradeHaz` is on call for 4x4 response team - help out emergency services in poor weather
[22:50] <ComradeHaz`> much more fun than server admin :D
[22:51] <Gibby> i do that too, firefighter
[22:51] <Gibby> we had a good stormy summer this year
[22:51] <ComradeHaz`> Oooh, funkeh
[22:52] <ComradeHaz`> Aye, thing is we only have to do the fun stuff
[22:52] <ComradeHaz`> not actually an emergency service, they just call us if they need our (vehicles) help
[22:52] <ComradeHaz`> So we drive the police about in the snow and tow ambulances out of mud if they get stuck in a field etc etc
[22:53] <Gibby> ahhhh
[22:53] <Gibby> have the fun is running code
[22:54] <ComradeHaz`> Anyway, just writing an ubuntu image to disc
[22:54] <ComradeHaz`> I'm betting I'll get no video but get drums
[22:54] <Gibby> you writing it at the slowest speed?
[22:54] <ComradeHaz`> Nope, running varify.
[22:54] <ComradeHaz`> *verify
[22:54] <Gibby> goodluck with that
[22:55]  * ComradeHaz` has good discs and good burner.
[23:02] <ComradeHaz`> Right.
[23:02]  * ComradeHaz` has drums but no video.
[23:02] <ComradeHaz`> Time to pop over to general Ubuntu?
[23:08] <Gibby> hmmm
[23:08] <Gibby> take out the video card
[23:09] <ComradeHaz`> Hmm.
[23:10] <ComradeHaz`> yeah, I have the card that was originally in this box
[23:12] <Gibby> well just pull it, and use the on board
[23:12] <Gibby> hmm how do i configure an IR remote?
[23:12] <ComradeHaz`> Well, teh onboard is no good to me
[23:13] <ComradeHaz`> I require hdmi output
[23:13] <ComradeHaz`> (not using that atm, btw)
[23:13] <Gibby> well if you want to troubleshoot you have to do it
[23:15] <ComradeHaz`> Oh, sure.
[23:15] <ComradeHaz`> On it.
[23:17] <ComradeHaz`> Internal card working.
[23:18] <ComradeHaz`> *Onboard
[23:18] <ComradeHaz`> So somehow this motherboard disagrees with this GPU?!
[23:20] <Gibby> :)
[23:20] <Gibby> see we are getting somewhere
[23:21] <ComradeHaz`> only place I know I am getting is sad.
[23:30] <Gibby> put the other card back in, go to bios and disable on board
[23:30] <ComradeHaz`> Done.
[23:32] <ComradeHaz`> wondered if I might be marginal on PSU power, so tried unplugging hdd
[23:32] <ComradeHaz`> no help
[23:37] <Gibby> does it have its own power?
[23:38] <ComradeHaz`> Nope.
[23:38] <ComradeHaz`> It's only a little fanless GT210
[23:38] <Gibby> ahh ok
[23:39] <ComradeHaz`> This is bloody wierd
[23:39] <ComradeHaz`> Never seeen anything like this.
[23:39] <ComradeHaz`> What is different between the latter part of teh boot and that menu?
[23:40] <ComradeHaz`> Further, how come I could boot to the frontend and it only fall over when I tried to play those iso images.
[23:41] <ComradeHaz`> Further still, how come I managed to play an mkv on it successfully yesterday when I first put it together
[23:41]  * ComradeHaz` is confused.
[23:47] <Gibby> no clue
[23:53]  * ComradeHaz` went foraging in the kitchen for something to cheer him up
[23:54]  * ComradeHaz` returned with his Dad's last bottle of a particular cider
[23:54]  * ComradeHaz` forgot until he had opened it that it was being saved
[23:55] <Gibby> well, now if i can only figure out my IR remote....
[23:55] <ComradeHaz`> In what regard?
[23:56] <Gibby> how to heck do i program it, i plugged in the usb reciever and selected mce usb all in MCC but only a couple buttons work
[23:57] <ComradeHaz`> Think that's just in frontend options