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Sarvattthanks a bunch for looking over it bryce, made all those changes and I'll make one for lucid and maverick as well tomorrow00:03
Sarvattthere's another pci id added post 2.12 but its a device noone is going to have to even test a SRU00:08
Sarvattonly used in embedded intel chipset set top boxes, my hd dvd player uses it actually :)00:09
brycehheh00:09
brycehsure thing00:09
Sarvattthe "is this file a patch?" wording is confusing, it's literally a patch  but not the proposed solution to the bug :D00:12
brycehyeah I know00:12
brycehactually unchecking it is sort of a kludge-around00:12
SarvattRAOF, cnd: forgot to mention it but mvo sponsored your changes to xorg-server yesterday so you dont have to find a sponsor still if you didn't see it in all the craziness (thanks btw mvo!)00:15
ScottKSarvatt and RAOF: I have a fix for Bug #633406.  It's not even very complicated.  Please see the bug.00:31
ubot4Launchpad bug 633406 in mesa (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 4 other projects) "Display freeze when changing kwin effects settings if effects are active (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 20)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63340600:31
vishtseliot: hi, finally got mclasen to review the gtk bug.. maybe you could update the patch or add it lower down in your todo list ;)12:04
tseliotvish: yes, sorry I saw that email but currently I have a lot of work to do. I'll see what I can do12:04
vishtseliot: np, i guessed so.. hence the lower down in the list :)12:05
vishupstream should review patches quicker ;p  , otherwise timing gets messed up like this ;)12:06
DinkInteresting, been about 16hrs so far and my "freeze" issue hasn't occurred. There has been several update, mutter,xorg,kernel wonder if one of those or combo fixed it.14:53
apwSarvatt, RAOF, either of you know how to disable the binary nvidia driver temporarily to allow some tesitng wihtout uninstalling it?  i assume we can blacklist something something ?15:40
RAOFapw: You should be able to blacklist nvidia-current?15:41
apwand presumably nouvueau needs to un blacklisted ?15:42
* apw wishes he has some nvidia h/w15:42
RAOFYes.15:42
RAOFupdate-alternatives --config gl_conf sholud be run.15:42
Sarvattapw: sudo update-alternatives --config gl_conf , pick mesa, sudo ldconfig, reboot i believe it is?15:42
RAOFI think you _also_ need to blacklist nvidia-current, though.15:43
Sarvattnvidia-current shouldn't load cus nvidia will load first15:43
Sarvatterr nouveau15:43
apwhrm, that feels like it is going to go wrong15:43
Sarvattthat was my experience in the past15:43
RAOFYeah.  I'd blacklist it, though.15:44
apwyeah advising both blacklisting and the update-alternatives15:44
vishnjpatel: tested today again , only unity is a problem now.. mutter works fine. re: bug 616997 15:46
ubot4Launchpad bug 616997 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "[RV515] Unity keeps reloading with a white background (affects: 9) (dups: 2) (heat: 60)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61699715:46
njpatelvirtuald, awesome, thanks15:47
vishnjpatel: is there any debug needed?15:47
vishnp..15:47
njpatelvish, I'll need to have a look again, currently on calls15:47
vishok np.. :)15:47
njpatelvish, sorry it's taken so long to get close to a fix :(15:47
vishnah no worries .. :)15:48
vishif its fixed for final its suffficient ;)15:48
Sarvattvish: nice, getting closer!15:50
Sarvatt...or not, back to mesa not  being the  problem? lol15:51
* Sarvatt just read your update15:51
vishyea.. i'm downgrading to see which update fixed the white screen issue15:51
Sarvattclutter15:51
vishoh then no need to downgrade if its known ;)15:52
Sarvatti'm not sure its ever going to work on ATI < r600 until we switch to the gallium r300 driver because you don't have GL_ARB_non_power_of_two that its trying to use15:55
Sarvattvish: xorg-edgers should work fine now if you want to actually use unity, that wont help get it fixed of course :)15:58
vishoh.. then lets try FFe? ;)15:58
* vish hides 15:58
Sarvattmesa 7.9 was crazy enough, r300g this late? no way :)15:59
* Sarvatt can't wait to see all the bugs about UMS no longer having 3D acceleration when we switch15:59
* vish adds edgers16:00
Sarvattnot to mention growing the livecd 10MB just for r300g will be much appreciated i'm sure16:01
vishyea, pitti just loves those ;)16:01
Sarvattoh wait, thats just with llvm enabled so IGP's without HWTCL don't suck as much16:01
RAOFAnd we can't enableb llvm for i386 because it unconditionally uses SSE2, right?16:02
Sarvatti'm not sure at the moment16:06
Sarvattoh xds notes started up again16:06
RAOFYup.  Kristian talking about EGL.16:07
vishwoooT!~!!!16:16
vishedgers atleast allows me to login into unity!16:16
RAOFOn r515?16:16
vishwell there are a lot of weirds aftifacts though ;p16:16
vishyup 16:16
vishRV515'16:16
RAOFWith r300g I presume.16:17
Sarvattyeah16:18
Sarvattno r300c in edgers16:18
RAOFFair call :){16:19
Sarvattis there any way to disable the drop shadow in unity thats trying to get used every time it crashes on ati?16:21
Sarvatt#1 0xb7ecf579 in CheckGLError (glCall=0xb7ed62e0 "glTexImage2D (GL_TEXTURE_2D, 0, GL_RGBA8, self->width, self->height, 0, GL_RGBA, GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE, NULL)", file=0xb7ed5f45 "./ctk-render-target.c", line=285) at ./ctk-utils.c:11016:21
Sarvatt        glErr = <value optimized out>16:21
Sarvatt#2 0xb7eca764 in ctk_render_target_resize (self=0x84cb918, width=1680, height=1050) at ./ctk-render-target.c:27716:21
Sarvatt        __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "ctk_render_target_resize"16:21
Sarvatt#3 0xb7eb6a6b in ctk_effect_drop_shadow_paint (effect=0x86bc810, paint_func=0x808cd90, is_last_effect=1) at ./ctk-effect-drop-shadow.c:31916:21
Sarvattvish: does unity -p -w 1024 -h 1024 work?16:23
Sarvattdont reboot to check or anything if you aren't messing around in it already, its not important :)16:24
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vishSarvatt: nope , http://paste.ubuntu.com/495357/  i ust get a white screen and it quits16:35
vishjust*16:35
vishhmm , notify osd looks odd with this edgers!16:38
Sarvattpretty sure thats a pixman problem with the newer one in there16:40
Sarvattit's fine here but had someone else say downgrading pixman fixed it16:40
Sarvatti would notice because i get notify-osd popup spam while running my xorg-edgers update script every day :)16:41
vishthis is how it is , http://imagebin.ca/popup/Fy4J9P.html  the same when running mutter or unity , if metacity then the black line is on the lower and right side of the bubble16:46
Sarvatthah! now I get it too, I wasn't a few days ago16:48
Sarvatthttp://sarvatt.com/downloads/notify.png16:49
Sarvattwell more than a few days, i haven't been using edgers primarily for a few weeks to test this mesa stuff16:49
vishyeah , thts exactly how metacity one looks like16:58
* Sarvatt uses metacity16:59
vishboo!  dont abandon compiz!!17:00
Sarvatti dont notice when its enabled or disabled so forget its disabled for weeks at a time :)17:01
vishah !17:02
* vish often wonders why some people dont like compiz :)17:02
soreauNo one doesn't like compiz17:02
soreauThey just get mad when their drivers suck 17:02
Sarvattor when it slows down glxgears! :)17:03
soreauor they can't figure out how to use it properly ;)17:03
vishyea.. !17:03
soreauErm, right.. got to have all those precious gears fps :P17:03
soreauDoes anyone else use compiz wallpaper plugin? A recent X update seems to have broken it ie. it does not render anything at all17:04
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soreaumaybe pixman is hating, not sure17:04
* Sarvatt tries17:04
soreauSarvatt: thanks17:04
kenvandineRAOF, did the mesa revert get prepared? just needs sponsoring?17:04
kenvandineSarvatt, any reason not to get the fix for bug 628077 uploaded?17:08
ubot4Launchpad bug 628077 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "[i865] Crash on logout with KDM (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62807717:08
Sarvattkenvandine: yeah, there is no fix for 2.1217:09
kenvandineoh... yuck17:09
Sarvattargh, looks like i dont even have the compiz wallpaper plugin installed17:11
Sarvattthere it is in -extra17:12
Sarvattdoesn't do anything here either17:14
Sarvattsoreau: of course you knew that :)17:14
* Sarvatt browses around compiz git to see if he spots anything17:19
Sarvattnot that it'll be relevant to our ancient compiz :)17:19
Sarvattsoreau: any rough idea at all of when it started?17:26
Sarvatttseliot: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showpost.php?p=148151&postcount=1317:34
tseliotSarvatt: yes, I'm discussing this with apw and amd17:35
soreauSarvatt: Users started reporting it about a month ago, all with latest X. Now I have newer X installed and it seems to happen with >= xorg 1.9.x17:57
vishSarvatt: another one similar to my unity restart Bug #64152319:18
ubot4Launchpad bug 641523 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Starting unity causes a repeatedly flashing white screen to appear on ATI MobilityRadeon (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64152319:18
BUGabundohey guys19:27
BUGabundoI've got a toshiba laptop, running Maverick, with a ATI Radeo HD 4500, with stock drivers19:28
BUGabundowhen plugged VIA HDMI to a 37" Pionneer LCD/TV the colors are bloated, turning green and magenta19:28
vishBUGabundo: that the new wallpaper!19:32
* vish hides19:32
BUGabundothat too19:33
BUGabundobut everything else :P19:33
BUGabundoso the question is, are their any other drivers that I could test?19:37
BUGabundothis ones work so well, other the descoloration19:37
SarvattBUGabundo: do you use a interlaced resolution on the hdtv?19:42
Sarvatt1080i instead of 720p or 1080p19:43
BUGabundo1080p19:43
BUGabundo_I think_19:43
BUGabundoSarvatt: anything I can do?19:46
BUGabundoI would really like to use it as secondary monitor19:46
Sarvattdget -u -x http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xserver-xorg-video-ati/xserver-xorg-video-ati_6.13.99+git20100907.b90cb61c-0ubuntu0sarvatt.dsc19:46
Sarvattcd xserver-xorg-video-ati-6.13.99+git20100907 && sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg-video-ati && debuild -uc -us -b && sudo dpkg -i ../xserver-xorg-video-ati_*.deb19:47
BUGabundowait wait19:47
BUGabundolet me SSH into it19:47
Sarvatt(or just try xorg-edgers if thats easier)19:48
BUGabundoahh19:48
BUGabundoit is :P19:48
Sarvattdget -u -x http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xserver-xorg-video-ati/xserver-xorg-video-ati_6.13.99+git20100907.b90cb61c-0ubuntu0sarvatt.dsc && cd xserver-xorg-video-ati-6.13.99+git20100907 && sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg-video-ati && debuild -uc -us -b && sudo dpkg -i ../xserver-xorg-video-ati_*.deb19:49
Sarvatt1 command in a terminal vs 10 minutes of upgrading :)19:49
BUGabundoits already doing upgrades 19:49
BUGabundo1 week of them19:49
BUGabundoI just installed that laptop last weel19:49
BUGabundo*week19:49
BUGabundoSarvatt: no dget LOL20:02
BUGabundoseems ill have to wait for the upgrade to finsh20:02
Sarvattdoh20:02
Sarvattno debuild either then too20:02
BUGabundoprobably20:02
BUGabundoits a rather clean install20:02
BUGabundoextras are only langpacks gnome do, chromium and compiz stuff20:03
Sarvattwell, we got one very postive response and nothing bad yet about the i8xx switch to fbdev at least20:17
vishSarvatt: do you want Bug #629814  to be open, iirc you mentioned something about the Backtrace for a hidden bug..20:19
ubot4Launchpad bug 629814 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[i945gme] Moving pointer over Unity's launcher crashes X and causes Unity to reload (affects: 1) (heat: 321)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62981420:19
vishSarvatt: the memory leak in unity was fixed and this doesnt seem to happen now20:19
Sarvattvish: is unity still broken? can be closed if not20:20
vishnope, no problems.. will mark it a dup .. thanks :)20:20
Sarvatttracking the logout crash thing in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/628077 and its not related to your unity problem20:21
ubot4Launchpad bug 628077 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "[i865] Crash on logout with KDM (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Confirmed]20:21
vishk..20:24
Sarvattspeaking of which, disappearing for a bit while i test out some patches for that bug20:32
Sarvattadding/removing edgers takes a crazy amount of time on this netbook these days :(20:41
SarvattScottK: by any chance are you available to test an intel package in a bit on your machine that has the logout problem?20:57
Sarvattbecause I believe i've fixed it20:57
ScottKYes.20:58
ScottKSarvatt: Does http://paste.ubuntu.com/495500/ look familiar?20:58
Sarvattone sec, chromium taking ages to load the 50 launchpad tabs :)20:59
* Sarvatt still can't scroll that paste yet21:00
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Sarvattlooks like you're using virtualbox and its trying to load the driver that doesn't exist for it?21:00
ScottKNo idea.  I just asked the person with the problem to join.21:01
* Sarvatt still hasn't scrolled down all the way21:01
ScottKSarvatt: That's rbelem's crash.21:01
ScottKrbelem: Sarvatt is one of the Canonical people who understands this stuff.21:02
rbelemcool21:02
rbelemi was running kubuntu-mobile on virtualbox and that error was happening21:02
ScottKWhat he said right before you joined was "looks like you're using virtualbox and its trying to load the driver that doesn't exist for it?"21:03
Sarvattok swrast+KDE, where are you screwing up now21:03
Sarvatthttp://pastebin.com/0z7t73SE21:03
Sarvattsomeone else posted that on nouveau+swrast+KDE earlier21:03
Sarvattand disabling effects worked around it for them21:05
ScottKIs there a package we should be shipping to provide a driver that we don't?21:05
BUGabundoeewww21:05
Sarvattnah vesa is fine, it just tries to use vboxvideo by default21:05
BUGabundo15MB extra MB for dget?21:05
Sarvattbut there's something going wrong with KDE desktop effects + swrast21:05
Sarvattit's trying to use GL compositing with swrast21:06
Sarvattcompiz isn't affected because its hardcoded not to work with the software rasterizer21:07
Sarvattone sec, let me upload this intel so it can build while i look at it some more21:09
soreauP.S. - compiz now works with radeon gallium swrast at reasonable speeds21:09
soreauaside from frag progs not working, I almost couldn't tell it was software rendering ;)21:10
rbelemSarvatt, the error also happening with live images. do we need to do something to fix that?21:10
SarvattKDE blacklisting swrast would be the easy fix, i'm not sure why it's trying to use it yet21:11
Sarvattkwin rather21:11
rbelemSarvatt, cool21:12
rbelemSarvatt, i will try this and i will be around if you want to ask something :-)21:14
Sarvatti'm not sure how to add it to the blacklists exactly to test it, maybe ScottK knows?21:14
SarvattOpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer21:14
SarvattOpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.9-devel21:14
ScottKrbelem: Please ask mgraesslin on #kubuntu-devel.21:15
rbelemSarvatt, ok21:15
rbelem;-)21:15
ScottKSarvatt: Speaking of mesa, any progress on reverting the clutter work around now that clutter is fixed?21:15
SarvattRAOF: ^^ ?21:16
ScottKThere's also Bug #633406 (with patch) I'm curious for feedback.21:16
ubot4Launchpad bug 633406 in mesa (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 4 other projects) "Display freeze when changing kwin effects settings if effects are active (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 22)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63340621:16
SarvattScottK: there is another version of it on the upstream bug report that looks much less risky, was hoping upstream (krh specifically) would reply on the bug but most everyones at XDS :(21:25
SarvattScottK: https://edge.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/copyfb21:25
ScottKOK.21:25
ScottKMaybe someone who is there can hunt him down and ask.  That's a pretty painful bug.21:25
* ScottK goes to find the box in question.21:25
Sarvatthttp://sarvatt.com/downloads/101_copy-fb.patch is the updated patch in there, I can't reproduce it with it21:30
Sarvattcompared to http://sarvatt.com/downloads/101_copy-fb-old.patch21:31
BUGabundoSarvatt: -bash: cd: xserver-xorg-video-ati-6.13.99+git20100907: Ficheiro ou directoria inexistente21:34
Sarvattsorry forgot the .b90cb61c21:35
Sarvatthit tab?21:35
BUGabundo?21:36
Sarvattcd xser<tab>21:36
Sarvattand run the rest from there?21:37
BUGabundowhere from?21:37
BUGabundoahh 21:37
BUGabundosaw21:37
Sarvattthe dget command downloaded the source package and extracted it wherever you are21:37
BUGabundoE: Você deve colocar alguns URIs 'source' no seu sources.list21:38
BUGabundoehe21:38
BUGabundolet me enable sources repo21:38
Sarvattdont need to enable any sources to use dget directly with the dsc..21:38
Sarvattdid you add edgers?21:38
BUGabundono21:38
BUGabundojust run what you gave me21:38
BUGabundodget -u -x http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xserver-xorg-video-ati/xserver-xorg-video-ati_6.13.99+git20100907.b90cb61c-0ubuntu0sarvatt.dsc && cd xserver-xorg-video-ati-6.13.99+git20100907 && sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg-video-ati && debuild -uc -us -b && sudo dpkg -i ../xserver-xorg-video-ati_*.deb21:39
SarvattBUGabundo: did dget work?21:39
Sarvattif so just cd xser<hit tab here> and run the rest of that command after21:39
BUGabundo# cd xserver-xorg-video-ati-6.13.99+git20100907.b90cb61c/ && sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg-video-ati && debuild -uc -us -b && sudo dpkg -i ../xserver-xorg-video-ati_*.deb21:39
BUGabundoA ler as listas de pacotes... Pronto21:39
BUGabundoA construir árvore de dependências       21:39
BUGabundoA ler a informação de estado... Pronto21:39
BUGabundoE: Você deve colocar alguns URIs 'source' no seu sources.list21:39
BUGabundoroot@ala:~/xserver-xorg-video-ati-6.13.99+git20100907.b90cb61c# 21:39
ScottKFound the relevant netbook.  Updating it now.21:39
Sarvatti cant read portuguese, I think it's saying you dont have an source repos added?21:40
BUGabundoyes21:40
Sarvattah sorry ya were fixing that, gotcha21:40
BUGabundotime for some ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa  action ?21:41
Sarvattnope just deb-src for the main archive21:41
BUGabundookay21:41
Sarvattor heck just xorg-edgers if you have another problem, guess that is easier :)21:41
BUGabundo28 more MBs21:43
BUGabundoand this *was* a clean install :P21:44
Sarvattthe build deps will autoremove after at least :)21:45
BUGabundotrue21:47
BUGabundoalthough I appreciate the freedom to compile my own GPU driver21:48
BUGabundothis is one of those things I wish it JUST WORKED21:48
BUGabundoI just want to plug my TV and use it :(21:48
BUGabundowell it does work... just with wrong collors21:49
BUGabundobtw yet another bug21:49
BUGabundothat laptop seems to "lose" the screen some times21:49
BUGabundoit fades and doesn't interact 21:49
BUGabundoand after a second nugdes works fine21:49
BUGabundoit starts fadding _just_ after I press any key :S21:50
BUGabundoSarvatt: done. reboot?21:50
Sarvattyepyep21:52
* Sarvatt crosses fingers21:52
ScottKSarvatt: LP says that won't start to build for another 5 hours.21:52
Sarvatt:(21:52
Sarvatti386?21:52
BUGabundoyou corss fingers??21:52
BUGabundobah21:53
* BUGabundo reboots21:53
SarvattScottK: if its i386 I've got the deb handy21:54
ScottKSarvatt: It is.21:54
BUGabundook it boots21:54
BUGabundoI have desktop21:54
Sarvattis it pink?21:54
BUGabundonow21:54
BUGabundogrey ropes21:54
BUGabundoI aint crazy to keep stock settings21:54
* BUGabundo plugs HDMI cable and crosses fingers21:55
BUGabundoit helps if I turn the TV on21:55
BUGabundoSarvatt: No change21:55
BUGabundo:(21:55
BUGabundoits on 1080p21:56
Sarvatti'm sure the fix is going to be in the kernel, that was a long shot :(21:56
SarvattScottK: http://sarvatt.com/downloads/xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.12.0-1ubuntu5~ppa1_i386.deb21:58
ScottKJust the one?21:58
Sarvattneed -dbg?21:58
Sarvatthttp://sarvatt.com/downloads/xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg_2.12.0-1ubuntu5~ppa1_i386.deb if you need it21:59
SarvattBUGabundo: btw sudo apt-get purge postfix bsd-mailx :)21:59
ScottKI'll know in a minute ...21:59
ScottKSarvatt: Still fails.22:02
Sarvatt:(22:02
ScottK(and yes, I restarted to make sure i was using the right driver)22:02
BUGabundoSarvatt: so I wait ?22:03
SarvattBUGabundo: I dont know of any fix off the top of my head, trying out the mainline kernels every now and then is the only thing I can suggest for now, fglrx might have a release sometime soon that works with maverick hopefully22:04
SarvattScottK: thanks for testing it, I'm so stumped on this darn patch22:05
BUGabundoSarvatt: it does work nicelly22:05
BUGabundojust not with this external hdmi tv  collors22:05
BUGabundobye22:10
Sarvattdoh22:10
Sarvattwas just going to ask him more questions22:10
brycehSarvatt, well you've probably got many more important bugs on your plate at the moment22:11
ScottKSarvatt: Do you want the Xorg log for the failure?22:14
SarvattScottK: is it just the same backtrace?22:14
* ScottK doesn't recall.22:15
Sarvatt<Sarvatt> <Sarvatt> 0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x3b) [0x80e83bb]22:15
Sarvatt<Sarvatt> <Sarvatt> 1: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x5da8d) [0x80a5a8d]22:15
Sarvatt<Sarvatt> <Sarvatt> 2: (vdso) (__kernel_rt_sigreturn+0x0) [0xa9640c]22:15
Sarvatt<Sarvatt> <Sarvatt> 3: /usr/bin/X (FreeClientResources+0xed) [0x808f04d]22:15
Sarvatt<Sarvatt> <Sarvatt> 4: /usr/bin/X (FreeAllResources+0x60) [0x808f120]22:15
Sarvatt<Sarvatt> <Sarvatt> 5: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x1a5e6) [0x80625e6]22:15
Sarvatt<Sarvatt> <Sarvatt> 6: /lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xe7) [0x2a5ce7]22:15
Sarvatt<Sarvatt> <Sarvatt> 7: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x1a191) [0x8062191]22:15
Sarvatt<Sarvatt> <Sarvatt> Segmentation fault at address 0x422:15
Sarvattif so then nah22:17
ScottKSarvatt: Some of the numbers in brackets are different, but other than that, the same.22:20
Sarvattyeah, didn't fix your problem there for sure then, sorry :(22:20
ScottKOK.22:23
SarvattScottK: ok just to be sure, on your netbooks just logging out of KDE triggers it?22:44
ScottKSarvatt: Yes.22:45
Sarvattplanning on getting KDE set up on this thing over the weekend so I can debug it further since i cant reproduce it anymore without causing a GPU hang22:45
ScottKProblem happens in a live session too, FYI.22:45
Sarvattwhere are the kwin logs at for future reference? does it just dump them in ~/.xsession-errors?22:57
Sarvattrbelem: can you pastebin ~/.xsession-errors from a failed kde startup?22:58
Sarvattthe kde livecd has been booting for the past 20 minutes in vmware on this netbook :)23:00
veenenenhey everybody. I'm running into an issue with my magic trackpad. It stopped being recognized as a track pad by x in maverick today. The maverick chat thinks it's related to this bug 637430.23:06
ubot4Launchpad bug 637430 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) "Magic Trackpad should default to evdev instead of synaptics (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63743023:06
veenenenI'm hoping someone can help me out with getting this resolved23:06
yofelwhich was my assumption, from his Xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/495559/ and 23:09
yofel[  1118.411] (**) Apple Wireless Trackpad: Device: "/dev/input/mouse0"23:09
yofel[  1118.441] (EE) ioctl EVIOCGNAME failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device23:09
Sarvattlooks like its working as intended to me, its just not presented as a synaptics device anymore.. the Inappropriate ioctl for device error is just for the /dev/input/mouse0 and is harmless, it works off the event device23:12
Sarvatti have no idea how the multitouch stuff is configured, but the touchpad utilities in gnome are just for synaptics devices23:13
yofelok23:13
Sarvattcnd: any insights there?23:13
veenenena touchpad tab had been showing up in the mouse preferences, but isn't anymore23:14
veeneneni'm not sure if that helps23:14
Sarvattthere's a channel for the touch stuff that might help out, i think its #ubuntu-touch?23:14
Sarvattyeah thats intended afaik, when it says touchpad it really means synaptics23:14
veeneneni wasn't getting any response in there23:14
Sarvattthere should be anyother gui to configure the multitouch stuff, you dont see one anywhere?23:15
Sarvatti really dont know if there is, just assuming here23:15
Sarvattmaybe something with utouch in the name?23:16
veeneneni grabbed the pointing devices package too, but that just seems to break stuff23:16
Sarvattyeah thats for synaptics only again, i know its confusing :(23:17
Sarvattgotta be some way to configure things with it, looking into the packages now23:17
veenenenit had been mouse until a few hours ago23:18
Sarvattdo you have the utouch package installed?23:19
veenenenyeah, just installed it23:19
veenenenshould i restart x?23:21
veeneneni'm not seeing anything new23:21
Sarvatti'm not seeing anythin either23:22
Sarvattwhat do you want to configure?23:23
Sarvattveenenen: well until someone familiar with it can help ya out you can just sudo mv /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/60-magictrackpad.conf{,.bak} in a terminal and restart X and synaptics should go back to picking up the device23:24
veenenenright now all that's working is the trackpad and the button on the bottom23:25
Sarvattwhat was working before that isn't now?23:26
veenenenno scrolling and no touch click23:26
Sarvattgestures and all of that should be working, 2 finger scroll and such23:26
veenenenall of that was working until the updates a few hours ago23:26
veenenenalright, restarting x. be right back.23:27
Sarvattvia synaptics emulation, I know it was intentional it was moved over to evdev to work with the actual multitouch stuff but I dont know how any of that works to tell you how to use it23:27
Sarvattveenenen: actually, have you rebooted since installing the utouch stuff?23:28
Sarvatti think thats the missing piece of the puzzle here, thats only installed by default in netbook afaik23:28
Sarvatt<Sarvatt> veenenen: actually, have you rebooted since installing the utouch stuff?23:29
Sarvatt<Sarvatt> i think thats the missing piece of the puzzle here, thats only installed by default in netbook afaik23:29
veenenenahhhhhh, there we go23:29
veeneneni didn't restart after the utouch stuff23:29
veeneneni'll have to try it again, when I'm not in the middle of work23:30
Sarvattit'd be worth moving /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/60-magictrackpad.conf.bak back to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/60-magictrackpad.conf and rebooting again,  it may work a lot better23:30
* Sarvatt nods23:30
veeneneni should have time this weekend to try it23:30
veenenenthanks for all the help23:30
Sarvattpretty crappy to move it over to evdev and lose all that functionality if you arent using UNE from a user's perspective23:31
Sarvattcnd: why not put the magicmouse conf in a utouch package?23:31
Sarvattmagictrackpad, sorry23:33
Sarvattveenenen: ah hah, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2010-September/002630.html23:53
veenenenhaha, nice to know they knew I'd be annoyed.23:54
veenenenso if I remove that conf file and restart, utouch should catch everything?23:58
veenenenthey just forgot to list utouch and evdev as dependences? 23:59

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