[00:00] <iConfused> I think I might switch my thumbdrive over to Ubuntu instead of Xubuntu once Maverick comes out :)
[00:00] <Doyle> aptitude offers a more robust removal functionality, other than that I don't htink it matters
[00:00] <demonspork> !PM | Galeo
[00:00] <Dulak> aptitude is much better at resolving dependencies in my experience
[00:00] <Nate____> haha, I'm not trying to spam. From what I read, it's a real problem and there are like 10 different ways to fix it. I'm on day three, and if I don't fix this, it's back to Windows 7. =/
[00:00] <wieshka> Nate____: posible that ndiswrapper is that what you are looking for
[00:00] <frank__> lol sebsebseb this just feels wrong frank@frank-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install aptitude
[00:01] <ZekeS> Hokay stupid question: how long a usb cable can I safely use to connect a printer?
[00:01] <erUSUL> !broadcom | Nate____
[00:01] <sebsebseb> frank__: yeah I know what you mean
[00:01] <ZekeS> 2-3 m ok?
[00:01] <sebsebseb> frank__: by the way #ubuntu+1 is 10.10 channel at the moment, since final isn't out yet, but yeah
[00:01] <Galeo> test
[00:01] <Nate____> wieshka: Yea, I have tried that before, but I guess there are linux dirvers now? Isn't that for using windows drivers and the ndiswrapper emulates it?
[00:01] <Nate____> I'm not sure
[00:01] <Galeo> sorry Demon
[00:01] <iConfused> I had issues with the fwcutter one, had to use the proprietary one or whatever
[00:01] <frank__> sebsebseb: thx
[00:02] <guestcable> I need help with grub; i downloaded ubuntu 3 times last week and there is a grub terminal screen at the boot; grub only did it when i updated 10.10
[00:02] <Oni> hey guys got a odd question if you have a few
[00:02] <wieshka> Nate____: ubottu already gave you a correct link to manual :)
[00:02] <Galeo> !PM | Galeo
[00:02] <erUSUL> !ask | Oni
[00:02] <frank__> lol, does anyone have experience with cairo dock? seems like none of the developers tried multi monitor mode ;)
[00:02] <Nate____> wieshka: Thanks, yea I have tried this before. I will give it a shot agian.
[00:03] <Oni> I have a cytech cyborg keyboard and it has prograbamable keys what program would I use to assign them to specific programs
[00:03] <frank__> boy, does this looks fscked up *G*
[00:03] <Oni> programable even sheesh
[00:03] <ZekeS> BAN HIM
[00:03] <Oni> who?
[00:04] <frank__> Oni: you'll have to fsck with the HAL, been there, done that. No pleasure at all, believe me
[00:04] <Verminator> I use a separate partition for /home and recently upgraded (by way of fresh install) to 10.04 from Kubuntu 8.04, w/o altering /home.  is there any chance that having parts of old programs in /home could make the new OS misbehave?
[00:05] <Oni> I thought there was a few programs avalable to do it easier from what others have told me
[00:05] <divadgnol67> Verminator - programs are normally installed to /etc so you should be safe
[00:05] <deathnight114> is there a program like manycam for ubuntu?
[00:06] <Oni> Verminator: shouldnt to my knowledge I did the same didnt have any issues
[00:06] <Doyle> Verminator: there are a lot of hidden configuration files in your home dir... it's possible
[00:06] <frank__> Oni: lol *G* thought that, too!
[00:06] <frank__> Oni: usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop and usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty and usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor are your "friends"
[00:06] <wieshka> divadgnol67: , Verminator but there still are .programname folders, what can contain config data
[00:06] <divadgnol67> most of the hidden files are .files and should not impact the rest of the system
[00:07] <frank__> Oni: and if you ever get to something useful, PLEASE let me know, hell I even will create an email alias for you to paste in a public logged channel
[00:07] <wieshka> divadgnol67: they should not impact, but no for 100% sure :)
[00:07] <Oni> lol will do frank
[00:07] <guestcable> i downloaded ubuntu 3 times, and everytime there is a grub terminal screen when my pc boots, is there a way that i can fix the problem or should install another boot loader.
[00:07] <divadgnol67> true, not 100% but unlikely
[00:07] <Verminator> I ask b/c ubuntun 10.04 is giving me a lot of non critical, but annoying issues
[00:08] <SaintSapphire> I'm having an odd issue. I'm able to connect to IRC via irssi, but I cannot load any web pages. When I gun 'ping google.com' I get 'unknown host'. Any ideas?
[00:08] <Nate____> wieshka: I'm getting Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.35-020635-generic. I'm having troubles installing drivers, ever since I updated the kernel. I can't install the ATI driver either. When I use the package manager or hardware drivers, I now get fglrx: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10. and fglrx-amdcccle: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured.
[00:08] <haywardgb> Verminator: what issues are you having? I'm having some myself...
[00:08] <erUSUL> SaintSapphire: dns problem ?
[00:08] <divadgnol67> Verminator - what kind of issues
[00:08] <frank__> Oni: dont expect too much, either it works, or it doesnt, just accept it and spare yourself hours of hate, anger and agony
[00:08] <Nate____> Do you think I boned it by upgrading the kernel?
[00:08] <Jordan_U> guestcable: Do you have more than one hard drive? Are there any error messages?
[00:08] <SaintSapphire> erUSUL: How would I check that?
[00:08] <frank__> Oni: btw this is the very reason I use dell keyboards. They work.
[00:08] <mikeg3> I need help.  What's the easiest way to get printing going in an Ubuntu 10.04 VM on a MacBook Pro host with Snow Leopard?
[00:08] <erUSUL> SaintSapphire: can you ping a num ip ? « ping 66.249.92.104 »
[00:09] <erUSUL> SaintSapphire: is a gogle server
[00:09] <Nate____> I also get fglrx(0): Hasn't established DRM connection failed to map FB memory, when I reboot now.
[00:09] <guestcable> no i just say GNU GRUB version 1.98....grub>
[00:09] <SaintSapphire> erUSUL: Huh, yes, I can.
[00:09] <erUSUL> SaintSapphire: no dns configured ....
[00:09] <SaintSapphire> What's the path to change DNS servers in ubuntu, then?
[00:09] <erUSUL> SaintSapphire: how do you set up the connecton? Network Manager ?
[00:09] <guestcable> i type reboot and the pc reboots, but if i type exit the pc restarts
[00:10] <frank__> Oni: and if there's a mapping of a special key you don't like, don't press it, just ignore it. Continue enjoying your life, but if you temper to fsck with the above mentioned files be awared to have a spare keyboard ready
[00:10] <tensorpudding> SaintSapphire: by default you get your DNS servers from your DHCP
[00:10] <Kane_hart> can you do a memory test in a VPS?
[00:10] <mikeg3> !parallels
[00:10] <Jordan_U> guestcable: What happens if you run "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg" from that grub shell?
[00:10] <frank__> Oni: you WILL crash it at least one time
[00:10] <FredFlinstone> hi, i need to get a video card, (onboard right now) what is ideal for ubuntu ? i know i want a nvidia chipset, but from there i am lost, too many choices, can anyone help? may be used for htpc, no games
[00:10] <Verminator> divadgnol67, haywardgb, monitor not detected and stuck at a lower rez, OO slow, locks up, and is jittery, empathy locks up and take 60-100 CPU use, full screen games take 100% cpu and lock up the USB ports, caps lock sometimes get inverted on KB,
[00:11] <guestcable> i will act as if it would run, but go back to grub>
[00:11] <guestcable> i am sort of scared to restart my pc
[00:11] <tensorpudding> FredFlinstone: The nvidia driver works for all nvidia chipsets, so it's simply a matter of price vs. performance
[00:11] <erUSUL> SaintSapphire: right click on the network manager icon. choose edit connections. go to the connection you use. choose edit and in there go to ipv4 settings
[00:11] <FredFlinstone> ok
[00:11] <Karen_m> for some reason, when I load up iptraf, it does not pull up my interfaces, however I can do ;  iptraf -d eth1 and it will ..   the only interface it sees is 'lo' for some reason
[00:11] <divadgnol67> Verminator > it is unlikely caused by any files in your home directory.
[00:11] <wieshka> grrrr - looks like i have serios boot problem for my freshly installed ubuntu desktop - alternative
[00:11] <JuJuBee> I am having issues with audio.  When I log in, I hear the login sounds, but once logged in sound doesn't seem to work (Amarok or web videos...)
[00:12] <tensorpudding> FredFlinstone: Well, it also has to work with your hardware.
[00:12] <wieshka> it is RAID 1 + LVM installation
[00:12] <divadgnol67> verminator > what video card do you have?
[00:12] <frank__> is there any way to use cairo dock with a dual-screen setup? Cairo-dock centers at the combined resolution of the 2 monitors which is crap
[00:12] <wieshka> and fsck returns error
[00:13] <Verminator> divadgnol67, nvidia 6600LE, 256MB, I am using the proprietray driver, current and recommended from ubuntu repos, just reinstalled this evening to test
[00:13] <wieshka> fsck /boot [415] terminated with status 8
[00:13] <haywardgb> loving ubuntu 10.04 apart from the minor headaches... not going back to Win7 is like trying to quit an addiction !
[00:13] <wieshka> wondering now how to recover ir
[00:13] <wieshka> ir
[00:13] <wieshka> it
[00:13] <Nate____> haywardgb: was getting your wireless installed and stable easy?
[00:14] <haywardgb> sure was nate..
[00:14] <Verminator> divadgnol67, driver according to nvidia control panel is 195.36.24
[00:14] <haywardgb> i do get weird loss of internet using wireless though....
[00:14] <Nate____> I'm having tons of trouble.
[00:14] <Nate____> Like it randomly disconnects?
[00:14] <divadgnol67> Verminator > back up your home directory to a flash drive and do a fresh install to rule out that it in fact something in home directory causing the problem
[00:14] <JuJuBee> Anyone good with audio issues willing to assist me?
[00:14] <Nate____> Mine did that, so I'm trying some different fixes. All that got me was a ton of errors and no working diver anymore.. haha
[00:14] <haywardgb> sometimes it just stops working, but then starts again.. not sure if that's the place im getting access from, or just a fluke.. i've noticed it in a few places...
[00:15] <haywardgb> Nate____: same issue as me then...
[00:15] <Nate____> Idk, mine would take forever to connect and just drop randomly.
[00:15] <divadgnol67> verminator > re-install without using your backed up home directory
[00:15] <haywardgb> can anyone shed light on this?
[00:15] <Nate____> haywardgb: it was on a network running WPA-personal with a passphrase
[00:15] <Verminator> divadgnol67, an inconvenient step, but probably worth a try, ty
[00:16] <Nate____> haywardgb: I dont' want to go back to windows 7, but if i can't figure this out.. idk. haha
[00:16] <divadgnol67> not really that difficult, but you are correct an extra step
[00:16] <guestcable> i downloaded ubuntu 3 times, and everytime there is a grub terminal screen when my pc boots, is there a way that i can fix the problem or should install another boot loader.
[00:16] <divadgnol67> Verminator > good luck
[00:16] <kad__> heys need help i just update my ubtuntu and reboot!!  now i can't log to graphic and in the logs when i type sudo get this: -bash: /usr/bin/sudo: cannot execute binary file
[00:17] <haywardgb> Nate____: Lol, I feel that way too.. Ubuntu always seems like it's about to make the mark, then something really important messes it up for me....
[00:17] <Verminator> divadgnol67, not difficult, but time consumming, although, any good idea for syncing this new back w/ an old backup?
[00:17] <Jordan_U> guestcable: Please try what I requested.
[00:17] <haywardgb> Can anyone explain why wireless would take ages to connect, then suddenly keep dropping ...?
[00:17] <Nate____> haywardgb: Yea, this is my third attempt with this laptop. It's awesome, except for my wireless.. that's a big problem. It sucks that is probably the game breaker. lol
[00:18] <wieshka> hmmm - Ubuntu says: Serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /boot
[00:18] <haywardgb> Nate____: for me first it was itunes .. then i came back at 10.04 and must say, it's pretty awesome, apart from the wireless issue (a biggy for me) and a few minor ones...
[00:18] <test34> Nate____, it is better to check for compatibility before you buy
[00:18] <guestcable> is there an irc chat room through windows , just i case if it happens again @ jordan_u
[00:18] <haywardgb> Nate____: what wireless card you using?
[00:19] <Verminator> guestcable, do you mean a chat client?
[00:19] <tensorpudding> haywardgb: it could be trouble with your wifi nic, or it could be trouble with the router/ap, or it could be poor signal strength, or it could be trouble with the upstream connection
[00:19] <guestcable> that too
[00:19] <Nate____> test34: I didn't purchase for linux. It was more a hey, lets give this a shot type thing.
[00:19] <Dulak> it's no different than any other OS, problems happen, things don't work, you have to massage stuff to get it all working.  With thousands and thousands of hardware combinations there is bound to be some issues no matter what OS you run.
[00:19] <ninjai> why is it that when i email HTML code with mutt it appears as HTML code and not an HTML page???
[00:19] <Jordan_U> guestcable: Yes, there are IRC clients for windows.
[00:19] <Verminator> guestcable, I believe pidgin runs on windows
[00:19] <haywardgb> tensorpudding: you forgot to add flux-capacitor ;)
[00:19] <Nate____> haywardgb: It's the BCM4322 broadcom, a/b/g/n
[00:20] <guestcable> it is just cable the room will not let me change nick
[00:20] <wieshka> ok by ignoring
[00:20] <drjo> if i install ubuntu from a minimal install and install the package ubuntu-desktop and add the without-recommends flag to apt, will that cause me trouble in the future?
[00:20] <Dulak> The part that makes linux stand out is that once you get things working, they tend to work for a very long time
[00:20] <wieshka> i got now logged in
[00:20] <divadgnol67> Verminator > here is a link as it easier this way  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[00:20] <zero-1> Hi everyone, I just moved from Arch linux to ubuntu
[00:20] <Jordan_U> ninjai: Because the mime type is wrong most likely. Why are you sending html email?
[00:20] <guestcable> will i be able to come back here?
[00:20] <Verminator> divadgnol67, tyvm
[00:20] <JuJuBee> Nate____:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=896713
[00:20] <JuJuBee> Maybe that will help
[00:20] <zero-1> I was developing a .NET client for evernote in monodevelop an it works great on Arch but in ubuntu, mono develop is complaining about not finding Gecko namespace
[00:21] <Jordan_U> guestcable: Yes, this is the channel #ubuntu on the server irc.freenode.net
[00:21] <zero-1> I've been researching on the internet and haven't been able to install Gecko-sharp on ubuntu, what can I do? any advise?
[00:21] <haywardgb> Nate____: I hope you get it sorted, one of us has to survive and make it through.. I'm thinking of buying a USB wireless stick that is listed on the compatability list... Just to make sure..
[00:21] <ninjai> Jordan_U: It's some in house stuff I'm working on that needs to be HTML formatted.  I receive HTML emails from other people and they display fine, but not when my web server emails it.  is the mime type wrong on my web server?
[00:22] <Nate____> JuJuBee: Thanks I will give it a shot. I upgraded my kernel though and I'm having problems installing my ATI driver and broadcom drivers. It errors out.
[00:22] <Nate____> haywardgb: Yea, it's worth it. Maybe I will get another one that I can slide in the laptop.
[00:22] <guestcable> here goes nothing!!!!!
[00:22] <drjo> im trying to find a way of installing the ubuntu desktop but in a more minimal way then default
[00:23] <Nate____> haywardgb: It just sucks I can't get it working. Others are doing it. I may need to rebuild 10.04 for a 3rd time.. haha
[00:23] <JuJuBee> Nate____:  ATI is evil... nVidia all the way
[00:23] <tensorpudding> zero-1: you checked packages.ubuntu.com to make sure that this software was not available on ubuntu?
[00:23] <JuJuBee> Great on windoze not linux
[00:23] <haywardgb> Nate____: you could try that link that was just posted..
[00:23] <wieshka2> hmmmm so i have succesfully loged in - but io have to prevent problems while bootup - so neither /boot partition found during bootup, neither manually mountpointed LVM partition
[00:23] <Nate____> JuJuBee: I agree, haha. I wish I had nvidia in this. It's one of those multi-touch HP laptops.
[00:23] <Jordan_U> ninjai: Do you mean that you have an SMTP server? A "web server" doesn't send email.
[00:23] <wieshka2> and by ignoring and skipping i can succesfully boot
[00:23] <Verminator> guestcable, check these out, I think this is what you are looking for
[00:23] <Verminator> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients
 I did but Im not sure what is the package's name
[00:23] <Verminator> http://www.ircreviews.org/clients/platforms-windows.html
[00:23] <test34> Nate____, you built ubuntu? I dont think so.. maybe you mean the kernel?
[00:23] <FloodBot4> Verminator: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:23] <onoko> FloodBot4: that url has been posted 4 times in the past 4 hours by FloodBot3, Katsumi32, and ubottu (last linked by FloodBot3 2 hours, 4 minutes ago).
[00:24] <Nate____> test34: By rebuild, I meant re-install. lol..
[00:24] <tensorpudding> zero-1: It doesn't appear to be in the repos, so you'll probably have to install it by hand
[00:25] <Nate____> haywardgb: I didn't see the link? I have tried about 5 different ones now. I think I boned it by updating the kernel.
[00:25] <Kane_hart> can Memtest or Memtest86 be ran in vm or has to be root of the xen server?
[00:25] <Verminator> can lubuntu use ubuntu one to sync files as ubuntu can?
 not that installing it by hand is a problem to me, but if I wish to distribute it it will be a problem for whomever I give it to, do I have another option?
[00:25] <Jordan_U> Kane_hart: I would run it on the actual hardware.
[00:25] <test34> Nate____, you dont need to reinstall.. maybe you need to build a kernel module or rebuild the kernel itself
[00:25] <haywardgb> Nate____: oh heck, a re-install then ;)
[00:26] <Kane_hart> Jordan_U thanks >.< gotta find out how lol
[00:26] <haywardgb> Nate____: Are you in London?
[00:26] <erUSUL> Kane_hart: it has to be the only thing running on the machine.... it is a "kernel"
[00:26] <test34> Nate____, or reinstall the default kernel if it used to work
[00:26] <Random832> Kane_hart: you have to run it on the physical hardware or it is useless
[00:26] <ninjai> Jordan_U Sorry, yes it's a web server with SMTP (sendmail with mutt) installed...
[00:26] <Nate____> haywardgb: Nah, I'm on a web IRC client. I dont' have one installed at the moment.
[00:27] <test34> Nate____, or a previous version if you are using the default (you should be able to choose a previous version at boot)
[00:27] <Kane_hart> ok thanks
[00:27] <Nate____> test34: Do you know how I can get back to the kernel that installs with 10.04? I'm still relatively new to Linux.
[00:27] <haywardgb> Nate____: If you get it working, add me as a buddy and let me know how it goes...
[00:27] <drjo> could someone maybe point me to some online resources or something ?
[00:28] <FalsAlarm> which file contains the settings for enabling/disabling log in to my server via ssh?
[00:28] <tensorpudding> zero-1: you don't have to include gecko-sharp with you distributing it
[00:28] <Nate____> test34: I ran this command to update it. I can show you. I don't have any options to choose when I startup.
[00:28] <FalsAlarm> with a username/pass
[00:28] <h00k> !guidelines > monokrome Please review this regarding bots
[00:28] <test34> Nate____, which command?
[00:28] <Nate____> haywardgb: yea, if i figure it out, i will let you know. what do you want me to add you on? Can you do that on IRC? I haven't done that before on here.
[00:28] <Verminator> drjo, resources for what?
[00:28] <Nate____> test34: I will have to look it up in my history.
 I know, but for some newcomer to linux installing it might be painful if they have to install anything by hand
[00:29] <zero-1> and not through apt
[00:29] <haywardgb> Nate____: I've added you as a buddy on Pidgin.. I'm all Ubuntu now!
[00:29] <tensorpudding> zero-1: the ideal way would be to package gecko-sharp
[00:30] <Nate____> haywardgb: Under what service?
 can you give me some pointers in how to do that?
[00:30] <Nate____> haywardgb: Doesn't pidgen do AIM, MSN, ect.
[00:30] <coldboot|home> What idiot removed grip from the Ubuntu packages?
[00:30] <drjo> Verminator: im basically just trying to figure out a safe way to install a minimal system, cause im rolling it out on a bunch of computers, so i found that installing the minimal cd  and then ubuntu-desktop with the --without-recommends flag get me exactly what i want, but ive seen on some forums people say this is bad but not why
[00:30] <haywardgb> Nate: A chat client called Pidgin ... It's like erm... Empathy IM Client..
[00:30] <cable_summers> how do remove a name from the boot select screen; i have too many ubuntu's
[00:30] <haywardgb> Nate: yeah, exactly what you just said.
[00:30] <Verminator> Nate____, pidgion woprks w/ multiple servers, protocals
[00:31] <tensorpudding> zero-1: According to launchpad, there used to be a gecko-sharp2 package, but it has mostly disappeared
[00:31] <Jesdisciple> big problems with spam?
[00:31] <Jordan_U> cable_summers: Remove old kernels via apt / Ubuntu Software Center
[00:31] <Nate____> haywardgb: Yea, I have used pidgen. How did you add me though? Nate___ isn't my username.
[00:31] <drjo> Verminator: so the information i seek is regarding ubuntu-desktop and future upgrades etc
[00:31] <cable_summers> ?
[00:31] <cable_summers> how ?
[00:31] <haywardgb> Nate: this Pidgin app rocks.. I just right clicked on your name here in this window and it gave me the option to add you.. I think it just adds your IRC Alias..
[00:32] <peepz> guys..
[00:32] <Verminator> drjo, sorry, that is something i have no idea about, sorry
[00:32] <Nate____> haywardgb: Oh, ok cool. Well I'm on a web client. This name is going to go away.
[00:32] <peepz> when I hit "arrow-up" it does not give me the last typed line instead it gives me wierd chars...why
[00:32] <tensorpudding> zero-1: what exactly is gecko sharp used for?
[00:32] <Verminator> peepz, try cntr+up
[00:32] <Nate____> test34: I can't find it atm. Would it help if you know my kernel version?
[00:33] <Nate____> test34: if i look some more, i may be able to find it.
[00:33] <waaade> can anyone tell me what an "=" means when using ls -F?
[00:33] <haywardgb> Nate: if you want to pm me your msn or whatever.. if you like, otherwise don't worry..
[00:33] <drjo> Verminator: thanks anyways, going to install and upgrade to 10.10 and try to see if it hoses the system
[00:33] <Nate____> haywardgb: Yea, I will do that. Idk how to pm on this web client though. Sec.
[00:34] <Verminator> drjo, I hope it goes well for you
 creating a gecko browser within a .NET mono app
[00:34] <Dulak> Nate____: /msg name messagehere
[00:34] <Nate____> dulak: thanks
[00:34] <FalsAlarm> in my /etc/ssh/ssh_config, which lines to I have to change to get l/p login working with ssh?
[00:34] <FalsAlarm> i uncomment and set this one, PasswordAuthentication yes
[00:35] <FalsAlarm> any others?
[00:35] <drjo> Verminator: me too :)
[00:35] <brandon420> http://www.petitiononline.com/irctrout/petition.html
[00:35] <Dulak> FalsAlarm: ssh_config is for outgoing ssh, sshd_config is for incoming ssh
[00:35] <tensorpudding> zero-1: there seems to be a Mono.Mozilla namespace that uses gluezilla to do that
[00:35] <FalsAlarm> ahh, woops
[00:36] <tensorpudding> zero-1: oh wait, that uses Windows Forms
[00:36] <wieshka> Need some advanced help on this fsck error: http://wieshka.pastebin.com/bzDqWqgj
[00:36] <zero-1> :(
[00:38] <wieshka> any ideas ?
[00:38] <tensorpudding> zero-1: maybe ask in #mono
[00:38] <waaade> can anyone tell me what an "=" means when using ls -F?
[00:38] <tensorpudding> waaade: i believe those are sockets
[00:38] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Can you just "sudo umount /dev/sda1" then "sudo fsck /dev/sda1" ?
[00:38] <waaade> tensorpudding, thanks!
[00:39] <nathan_> tets
[00:39] <wieshka> Jordan_U: /dev/sda1 : not mounted
[00:39] <Dulak> wieshka: boot recovery mode and run 'fsck /dev/sda1'
[00:39] <wieshka> or you mean while boot recovery ?
[00:39] <wieshka> ok ono momento :)
[00:40] <anair_84> I just downloaded the info file and want to install it any one know how that goes
[00:40] <Jordan_U> Dulak: wieshka: There should be no need to boot into recovery mode.
[00:40] <wieshka> it says it is unmounted in normal mode
[00:40] <Dulak> Jordan_U: you don't fsck a read-write mounted partition, recovery mode mounts read-only
[00:41] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo fsck -n /dev/sda1"?
[00:41] <wieshka> Dulak: Jordan_U even in recovery mode umount says it is not mounted
[00:41] <wieshka> but fsck says resource is busy
[00:41] <Jordan_U> Dulak: It's a separate /boot/partition, it can be unmounted without being in recovery mode.
[00:41] <wieshka> booting in nromal mode for pastebin
[00:41] <wieshka> Jordan_U: i cant even unmount it from recovery mode ?
[00:42] <wieshka> dunno
[00:42] <jocrawfo> someone here must know this answer..... Is there a way to connect an external display to my macbook pro, close the lid and have the external display become the primary display?  This is the result you get when running Windows/Mac so I am sure there is a way to do this in Ubuntu I am just not sure how.  The closest I got was my laptop screen being on while the lid was closed but that will just burnout the lcd when the extern
[00:42] <jocrawfo> al is being used.  I also have to mirror displays to use that method.
[00:42] <Jordan_U> wieshka: It may be that it is busy not because it is mounted but because fsck is being run on it in the background.
[00:42] <jocrawfo> i also was able to manually disable my laptop display using the Nvidia tool but that's a pain to do manually all the time
[00:43] <wieshka> the setup is -> seperated 512 mb /boot partition + RAID 1 + LVM (lv for /, swap and data)
[00:43] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Is there any output from "sudo pgrep fsck" ?
[00:43] <wieshka> Jordan_U: one moment - booting normal mode
[00:44] <wieshka> Jordan_U: no output in normal mode
[00:45] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Can you boot from a LiveCD?
[00:45] <wieshka> Jordan_U: df -h returns that boot is mounted as /dev/md0p1
[00:45] <wieshka> what is that ?
[00:46] <FalsAlarm> Dulak, I made the change and now ssh asks me to login
[00:46] <wieshka> Jordan_U: i have to rebuild flash then with unetbootin - it will take a while
[00:46] <FalsAlarm> but no matter what i enter for the password, it says Access denied
[00:47] <azlon> i am trying to grow my mdadm raid but every time i try to --add my new drive it says: mdadm: /dev/md0 does not appear to be an md device
[00:47] <Jordan_U> wieshka: That means that it's the first partition of your partitioned raid volume, which is certainly an odd configuration.
[00:47] <wieshka> what abut if i go in degraded mode
[00:47] <jocrawfo> anyone have any idea?
[00:47] <wieshka> Jordan_U: i made /boot as primary partition at begging of HDD
[00:47] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Are you sure that /dev/sda1 isn't a raid member?
[00:47] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[00:48] <wieshka> sure - one moment
[00:48] <wieshka> Jordan_U: http://wieshka.pastebin.com/1FFnri7S
[00:48] <azlon> Jordan_U: how can i force stop my mdadm raid? when i do --stop it says: mdadm: fail to stop array /dev/md0: Device or resource busy
[00:49] <wieshka> Jordan_U, dunno
[00:50] <wieshka> RAID has one partition only - and it is LVM
[00:50] <wieshka> but blkid returns some other partition - p1
[00:50] <Jordan_U> wieshka: No, it has two partitions according to blkid.
[00:50] <wieshka> during the setup i made only one
[00:51] <wieshka> ok - can i just delete it ?
[00:51] <Eleph> hello
[00:51] <Eleph> is there a major difference between netbook install of ubuntu 10.04 and desktop?
[00:51] <wieshka> i mean - any poibilities to recover with out reinstall ?
[00:51] <Eleph> can I install desktop on a netbook?
[00:51] <geoffmcc> Eleph: yes u can, i believe netbook version just make battery consumption less
[00:51] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Can you try fsck from a liveCD?
[00:52] <Eleph> ahh
[00:52] <wieshka> it will take a while, becouse i have no cd-rom, and at first i have to download iso
[00:52] <wieshka> and build flash drive
[00:52] <Jordan_U> geoffmcc: Eleph: Ubuntu netbook remix has an interface more suited to a small screen, but yes Ubuntu Desktop should work fine.
[00:53] <Eleph> cool
[00:53] <Eleph> thanks
[00:53] <wieshka> Jordan_U: what about just recoverying from that eror fro mrecovery mode or normal mode ?
[00:53] <Manfred-> Eleph: you'll miss some lid-close options
[00:54] <Jordan_U> wieshka: I'm not sure why the device is busy in the first place unfortunately.
[00:54] <wieshka> Jordan_U: maybe one more time alternative install will be faster then figuring out ?
[00:55] <Jordan_U> wieshka: That's likely, and your setup is a bit odd right now anyway.
[00:56] <esteban> hello, need help with mesa
[00:57] <wieshka> so - then i am going to make: one /boot partition of 512 mb, on each disk (only one as mountpoint), and second partition - whole disk - as RAID 1 array .... after that i set up LVM on device md0, so there i make /, /data & swap, Jordan_U this should work definetly by default, i am wrong ?
[00:57] <sovern> Does ubuntu not install in vmw workstation?
[00:57] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Why make a /boot/ partition on both disks?
[00:58] <Dulak> so the partitions are the same for a mirror
[00:58] <wieshka> aha
[00:58] <wieshka> and mirror disk can be restored as master disk
[00:58] <hughessd> how do I make a daemon that respawns if it's killed?
[00:59] <sovern> hughessd: have monit check for it, and restart it on failure
[00:59] <wieshka> monitor it whis some while script
[00:59] <hughessd> just put the compiled file in /etc/init.d/ and update-rc.d?
[00:59] <Jordan_U> wieshka: If you want /boot/ mirrored then you might as well use RAID on it.
[00:59] <wieshka> Jordan_U: will GRUB 2 understud this partition layout ?
[00:59] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Yes.
[01:00] <sovern> how do i deal w/ ubuntu 10.04 LTS hanging at 43% during disk scan at initial install boot in vmwks 6.5
[01:00] <Dulak> no you don't mirror /boot, but you do put it on both disks so if one drive fails you can boot the other drive
[01:00] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Make sure you don't partition the RAID device though.
[01:00] <wieshka> Jordan_U: - so two partitions on each disk, one small as boot one for LVM should work fine ?
[01:00] <hughessd> sovern: is monit the ubuntu "standard" method for creating daemons?
[01:01] <sovern> hughessd: ...no... its a monitoring engine
[01:01] <Manfred-> hello here, i'm stuck on tty when booting my other computer (desktop) with ubuntu, how could i get graphic ?
[01:01] <waaade> can someone help me with xmlrpc with rtorrent?  I'm trying to install wtorrent and having some trouble...
[01:01] <wieshka> and with LVM i can make data partitions and swap as i want ?
[01:01] <peepz> Verminator: u mean control? i tried that...same.
[01:01] <peepz> Unzip the zip file into ~/.vim (Unix)
[01:01] <peepz> what does that mean
[01:01] <peepz> .vim is not a folder !
[01:01] <Oni> who was it that said theyd write me a mail alias?
[01:01] <jakegub> !clear
[01:01] <Oni> ok will do thanks
[01:01] <hughessd> do programs that start at runtime (runlevel 2-5) only run once, or do they respawn when killed?
[01:02] <Oni> oops wrong windoqw
[01:02] <peepz> guys,,, what does .vim mean ??
[01:02] <Dulak> hughessd: nothing respawns when killed unless you are monitoring for it externally
[01:02] <Oni> vim is a editor
[01:02] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Yes, to be more complete you probably want each disk to have two partitions which are each raid members. The first partitions of each disk would be make up /dev/md0 (*NOT* /dev/md0p1, the raid device should not be partitioned). ...
[01:02] <peepz> i know it is.. I use it all the time
[01:02] <peepz> Oni: : http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/clojure/Getting_Started_with_Vim
[01:03] <peepz> it says unzip the files to ~/.vim
[01:03] <Dulak> peepz: then you should have a ~/.vim folder
[01:03] <peepz> what does that mean?
[01:03] <Oni> lol oh ok
[01:03] <Dulak> peepz: ~ means home dir
[01:03] <peepz> yes..
[01:03] <peepz> why would I have a folder called .vim in my home dir?
[01:03] <Jordan_U> wieshka: /dev/md0 would contain an ext4 filesystem.
[01:03] <jakegub> I still need help with my Ubuntu dual boot install.  I have Win7 on a 250gb drive. I have 50gb of the drive as "unallocated space".  During the ubuntu install, my Win7 is not recognized including any of the partitions
[01:03] <peepz> and why a dot ?
[01:03] <Dulak> peepz: so ~/.vim means /home/user/.vim
[01:03] <waaade> peepz, it hides it when you do ls
[01:03] <wieshka> Jordan_U: so i am making two partitions - one pair as md0 for boot, second pair as md1 for LVM
[01:03] <peepz> ohh
[01:03] <gstarx90> jakegub, just drag it
[01:03] <peepz> ok
[01:04] <Dulak> peepz: thats where vim keeps configs
[01:04] <waaade> peepz, just makes it hidden
[01:04] <gstarx90> jakegub, actually nevermind
[01:04] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Yes, and you would make volumes for your root and for swap on top of LVM.
[01:04] <jakegub> gstarx90: yeah, normally ubuntu can read the MBR or some boot sector and recognizes that there are partitions and one of them is Windows.  That doesn't happen during the install now
[01:04] <wieshka> Jordan_U: ofcorse
[01:05] <waaade> has anyone ever set up wtorrent with rtorrent before?
[01:05] <Jordan_U> jakegub: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[01:05] <hughessd> Dulak: not even if you use "inittab"?
[01:06] <jakegub> Jordan_U: /dev/sda1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain
[01:06] <Dulak> hughessd: ubuntu uses upstart, which is a form of external monitoring
[01:06] <hughessd> ah ok, well, i think you've answered my questions anyway. thanks for your time.
[01:07] <Jordan_U> jakegub: Could you go into the manual partitioning option of the installer and post a screenshot?
[01:07] <saml> hey, how can I diagnose?  computer just freezes.. and i have to unplug the power.
[01:07] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | jakegub
[01:07] <saml> what log files should i look at?
[01:07] <wieshka> Jordan_U: md1 (for data) partitions should me logical or primary ?
[01:07] <sovern> saml: /var/log/messages
[01:08] <wieshka> so both partitions for /boot RAID {md0} i made as primary at begining
[01:08] <critical> is there any channel about backtrack 4?
[01:08] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Doesn't matter much, but I'd make them primary.
[01:08] <saml> should I grep for something?
[01:08] <sovern> saml: look at the last line
[01:08] <sovern> :)
[01:08] <saml> or is there a way to slow down harddisk io?
[01:08] <valium> hi all - im having an issue with ssh - everytime i put in a wrong password the time it takes to authenticate gets longer and longer and longer (even over multiple sessions) where do i reset the count?
[01:08] <Dulak> Don't mirror /boot, it's retarded, and you will regret it later
[01:09] <wieshka> Jordan_U: you know - when you are resintalling - you are starting to ask about everything :)
[01:09] <Jordan_U> Dulak: Why do you say that?
[01:09] <peepz> thanks!
[01:09] <peepz> how do I use locate to find hidden files?
[01:09] <saml> i think my h ardware dies.. even when i boot on windows xp, same thing happens.. it freezes
[01:10] <Dulak> Because if /boot gets hosed, you won't be able to boot either disk, had it happen to many clients, it's not a good practice
[01:10] <pksadiq> Check memory test, may be your RAM  has some errors
[01:10] <Dulak> Manually copy /boot, do not mirror it
[01:10] <saml> can i limit bus bandwidth?
[01:10] <jakegub> Jordan_U: http://imagebin.org/114440
[01:10] <peepz> how do I use cp and also cp hidden files?
[01:11] <Jordan_U> Dulak: How does mirroring it increase the chance of it being "hosed"?
[01:11] <saml> cp -r  hiddenfile  newfile
[01:11] <peepz> i thought r was for recursive
[01:11] <peepz> its it capital R?
[01:12] <Jordan_U> jakegub: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[01:12] <saml> peepz, cp oldfile newfile
[01:12] <Dulak> Jordan_U: just keep giving bad advice, yer doing great
[01:12] <peepz> its not a file
[01:12] <peepz> its the content of the while directory including hidden files.
[01:12] <peepz> how do I copy the entire content of the current directory I am in to another folder including HIDDEN files.
[01:12] <bastid_raZor> Dulak: wow, you REALLY don't know how much Jordan_U knows.. do you?
[01:12] <wasnik> hi
[01:13] <bastid_raZor> Dulak: also, 'yer' is not a word. please attempt to use actual english.
[01:13] <saml> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [AIGP] enabled at IRQ 21
[01:13] <wasnik> I am havin problem installin ubuntu from live as well as normal installaton. I get error cannot open /dev/sda
[01:13] <wieshka> Dulak: i had also problems with mirrored boot
[01:13] <wieshka> so thats why i asked about GRUB 2
[01:14] <coz_> wasnik,  so you are using both live cd and alternate cd?
[01:14] <wieshka> what is best partition type for boot - isnt ext2 ?
[01:14] <coz_> wasnik,   did you check the cd for erriors
[01:14] <jakegub> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/rXS7MSMV
[01:14] <wasnik> coz_: yes
[01:14] <peepz> guys please
[01:14] <Dulak> bastid_raZor: I know that having run linux since 1993, I have seen mirrored /boot situations result in unbootable disks more times than I can count, it's a bad practice, and if he knew as much as you think he wouldn't be recommending it
[01:14] <wasnik> coz_: the reason i am reinstallin is my previous installation is not booting now
[01:14] <coz_> wasnik, understood
[01:14] <peepz> where do I find the vimconfig file?
[01:15] <coz_> wasnik,  so you check the cd for errors on both       live and alternate cd... and they are error free ...yes?
[01:15] <histo> peepz: in etc
[01:15] <bastid_raZor> peepz: ~/.vim/.vimrc
[01:15] <histo> peepz: nvm yeah in home
[01:15] <critical> I think,you can use some command like a sudofind
[01:15] <wasnik> coz_: yes I did that, also checked the memory and it is also fine
[01:15] <wieshka> Dulak: , bastid_raZor  Jordan_U then what to do with /boot ? :D
[01:15] <wieshka> mirror it or just copy ? :D
[01:15] <peepz> where???
[01:16] <IdleOne> Dulak: In that case offer a better solution and drop the attitude.
[01:16] <Dulak> Don't mirror it, copy it manually
[01:16] <coz_> wasnik,  and you say current install is not booting... did you check if the hard drive is actually working ?
[01:16] <histo> peepz: there is /etc/vim/vimrc for system wide or you need to put it in your home and customize.
[01:16] <Dulak> IdleOne: I did, multiple times
[01:16] <critical> in terminal
[01:16] <bastid_raZor> peepz: ~/ is a shortcut for /home/yourusername/
[01:16] <Galeo> ilovefairuz so, thanks, but it seems it's just my usb which has a problem. I did the process quite often on many computers, but never on IBM thinkcentre nor with that USB stick. So, I'll try to fix that later. Thx for all.
[01:16] <wasnik> coz_: did a test of it on my bios and it passed the test
[01:16] <IdleOne> Dulak: ok, thank you. now drop the attitude please.
[01:16] <Dulak> IdleOne: hah!
[01:16] <peepz> k thanks
[01:17] <coz_> wasnik,  what concerns  me is that your current install is not booting and the live and alternate cd's are not seeing the hard drive
[01:17] <coz_> wasnik,  this is suspicious  and i would be concerned about the hard drive integrity at this point
[01:18] <wasnik> coz_: so what do  u suggest should be done, and how did my bios detect and pass the hard disc as functionin propely
[01:18] <coz_> wasnik,  do you have an   unused or extra drive to test this
[01:18] <dublisk> Hi, I can't get my hdtv to work hooked up to ubuntu. It is hooked up via DVI->HDMI cable. The ubuntu splash screen came up but that was it
[01:18] <wasnik> coz_: no
[01:18] <phuzion> Is there a fix for the new 0day exploit out yet?
[01:18] <coz_> wasnik,  mm  and ubuntu is the only operating system on the drive?
[01:18] <MrUnagi> how would one ping multiple computers behind a nat
[01:18] <Oni> anyone in here have any experience with keytouch?
[01:18] <wasnik> coz_: yes ubuntu is the only one. also why should live cd installation have anything to do with my hard disc
[01:19] <coz_> wasnik,  when you boot into the live cd... did you hit enter  when the small keyboard image at the bottom of the screen comes on... which I guess you did since you tested cd... and it still wont boot onto the live cd?/
[01:20] <wasnik> coz_: yes i did that and it still didnt boot
[01:20] <coz_> wasnik, out of curiosity...have you been "inside" the case recently?
[01:22] <coz_> wasnik,   I would open the case..make sure all cables are securely attached... including hard drive and cdrom... then reboot the system with live cd... while in there check to see if any  of the capacitors have blown... because at this point ,,,, I personally would be checking hardware components to be sure they are attached and workding
[01:22] <mikeg3> I need help.  What's the easiest way to get printing going in an Ubuntu 10.04 VM on a MacBook Pro host with Snow Leopard?
[01:22] <dadush777> hello
[01:22] <dadush777> Anyone here plays LOTRO with Ubuntu ?
[01:22] <craigbass1976> Let me know if this is offtopic or not...  Anyone familiar with maatkit?  I can't for the life of me get dry run to work.  mysql tables sync fine, but I'd like to see what happened as it happens
[01:23] <dadush777> I'm using PyLOTRO but it gets stuck in "Checking Account Details..." anyone knows the problem ?
[01:23] <coz_> wasnik,  unless this is a lapttop that is
[01:23] <tensorpudding> mikeg3: that's probably highly dependent on what virtualization software you use
[01:23] <wasnik> coz_: I havent been inside the case, but what i am curious about is how come the bios is detecin the hardisk also why should hard disk erro come up on live boot. yes its a laptop
[01:23] <mikeg3> i am using the new parallels 6 for mac
[01:24] <Jordan_U> MrUnagi: In most cases initiating a ping from the "outside" to a host with NAT is impossible, let alone broadcasting it to all hosts.
[01:24] <coz_> wasnik,  i agree about the bios ... however.. it is clear that not only  is the current install not booting but neither will live cd which is not dependent on hard drive... so something is off kilter here
[01:24] <MrUnagi> ill just telnet
[01:24] <MrUnagi> ty tho
[01:24] <dadush777> anyone here plays LOTRO ?
[01:24] <jakegub> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/rXS7MSMV
[01:24] <st> dadush777, wine is that way ----------------->
[01:25] <wasnik> so why is the live cd givin an error cannot oopen /dec/sda it meanlive cd is workin with the harddrive and is dependin on hard drive
[01:25] <fcuk112> how do i browse network shares using vifm?
[01:25] <dadush777> what is the channel of Wine ?
[01:25] <mikeg3> it keeps wanting to authenticate my Photosmart printer using hp jetdirect, but I can't get past authentication.
[01:25] <tensorpudding> mikeg3: I don't know OSX's printer handling, but you can probably share it over the LAN, which would be the easiest way
[01:25] <mikeg3> Maybe using Bonjour?
[01:25] <st> dadush777, there is forum of wine and appdb comments too
[01:26] <Flamesman> Please, someone get me a massrename bash script
[01:26] <st> which Ubuntu file manager understands gvfs?
[01:26] <Flamesman> to lowercase all .hqr files
[01:26] <mikeg3> does ubuntu support any type of bonjour printing?
[01:26] <Jordan_U> Flamesman: The "rename" command will allow you to do that.
[01:26] <bastid_raZor> dadush777: #winehq
[01:26] <tensorpudding> mikeg3: I don't think so, but it's possible
[01:27] <Flamesman> I need to massrename
[01:27] <Flamesman> they are like 20 ~ 50 files
[01:27] <coz_> mikeg3,  check here or google  ubuntu bonjour printing   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156675
[01:27] <wieshka> Flamesman: massrename can be easily done with simple bash scripts
[01:28] <Flamesman> I dunno bash scripts yet
[01:28] <Flamesman> :/
[01:28] <KDC1956> will the 10.10 have better wireless on it 10.04.1 sure don't work for wireless on my setup
[01:28] <wieshka> Flamesman: also linux has tool mmv :)
[01:28] <Flamesman> k
[01:29] <Flamesman> nvrmd
[01:29] <Flamesman> got it
[01:29] <Flamesman> thx
[01:31] <jakegub> Jordan_U: did my pastebin answer any questions for you?  http://pastebin.com/rXS7MSMV
[01:32] <st> which Ubuntu file manager understands gvfs?
[01:32] <wieshka> Dulak: .... after install i need to dd /boot to empty boot partition and that all ?
[01:32] <peepz> linux is soo annoying..
[01:32] <peepz> everything is a mission
[01:33] <Jordan_U> wieshka: As far as I can see mirroring /boot/ will mean that it's more likely that you will be able to boot without any manual intervention in the case that one of the drives fails. Since it's making /boot/ more "complex" with an additional layer that must be dealt with recovering manually if things do fail in a way that prevents boot entirely may be more difficult, but in that case I would think you would be looking at restoring from backup anyway. I won't
[01:33] <Dulak> wieshka: install grub to the mbr as well if that's how you have it set on the master drive as well
[01:33] <hiexpo> hello coz_
[01:33] <coz_> hiexpo,  hey hello
[01:33] <coz_> peepz,  everything is in your control
[01:34] <at05gt> stupid question, are there any emulators for ubuntu?
[01:34] <coz_> st those are generally handled by  FUSE
[01:34] <tensorpudding> emulators of what?
[01:34] <aphex> what kind of emulator?
[01:34] <at05gt> game boy advanced and DS
[01:34] <sjm> at05gt, wine?
[01:34] <peepz> getting this when I run ant: com.sun.tools.javac.Main is not on the classpath.
[01:34] <coz_> st http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVFS
[01:35] <wieshka> Jordan_U: anyway - if one of my disks fails - it drops me in degraded mode, where can i restore
[01:35] <tommd> Could someone give me the default password for Ubuntu Maverick Alpha 1?  Or do I have to replace /etc/shadow
[01:35] <tommd> ?
[01:35] <at05gt> would wine allow me to run the emus i have for windows?
[01:35] <sjm> at05gt, don't know you might ask in #wine
[01:35] <aphex> theres both in  repos i think
[01:36] <wieshka> if i have after install prepared second disk for that
[01:36] <jrib> tommd: there's no default password on any ubuntu version.  The password for your user is the password you set during install
[01:36] <WXZ> does flash suck on ubuntu
[01:37] <WXZ> or is it just my hardware?
[01:37] <wieshka> !10.10 | tommd
[01:37] <WXZ> or settings
[01:37] <tommd> jrib: well 10.10 Alpha UNR for ARM  doesn't have an "install" procedure beyond copying to the SD
[01:37] <tommd> ubottu: Thanks
[01:37] <tommd> and wieshka, thanks
[01:37] <at05gt> hmmm appears the emu i have runs on linux natively
[01:37] <rewire> WXZ: did you install the official adobe flash runtime?
[01:37] <esteban> hello, iam having problems to uninstall a wrong source "Mesa Stand/alone"
[01:37] <WXZ> yes
[01:38] <esteban> http://pastebin.com/PPgaNaDv
[01:38] <WXZ> my cpu usage jumps from about 15% to 80% when I open a youtube video
[01:38] <rewire> WXZ: and what seems to be the problem, slow play back on videos etc?
[01:38] <esteban> i can compile Mesa DRI :(
[01:38] <WXZ> freezing actually rewire
[01:38] <esteban> I spent 4 days :(
[01:38] <WXZ> poor/no rendering at all
[01:38] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Either way you should be sure that grub is installed to the mbr of both drives, and if you don't go with mirroring you should be sure that when installing grub to the drive that will have a /boot that won't be mounted as /boot to use the --root-directory option of grub-install to be sure that grub doesn't look for its modules on the other drive (it's possible to have the mbr + embedded area portion of grub on a different disk than the /boot/ partit
[01:38] <rewire> WXZ: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[01:38] <esteban> poor rendering
[01:39] <WXZ> meerkat
[01:39] <esteban> 10 04
[01:39] <esteban> more info http://pastebin.com/PPgaNaDv
[01:39] <WXZ> should I downgrade to lynx?
[01:39] <watisdis> My usb transfers always fail... I'm pretty sure my motherboard is slowly crapping out.. I blamed it on upgrading to lucid lynx but in Windows the same problem is happening
[01:40] <Jordan_U> WXZ: #ubuntu+1 for 10.10 support.
[01:40] <watisdis> it's taking 10 minutes to transfer a 700mb file
[01:40] <tensorpudding> 10.10 isn't stable yet, it's a moving target, and nasty bugs are probably possible
[01:41] <watisdis> down from 5.9mb/sec to 839.6kb/sec.. looks like it's failing? :(
[01:41] <WXZ> Jordan_U: as far as I can remember, flash has sucked on ubuntu
[01:41] <Jordan_U> jakegub: I can't tell why Ubuntu's installer isn't detecting the partitions but the kernel obviously is. Can you try installing "gdisk" and pastebin the output of "sudo gdisk /dev/sda" ?
[01:41] <fedora_newb> yay...got my laptop monitor to show correctly :P
[01:41] <WXZ> so it's not a version-specific problem
[01:42] <edbian> I'm trying to run sudo grub-install from a live USB on my netbook.  I get this error: "cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)"  When I run sudo grub-install.  /dev is mounted.  What is going wrong?
[01:42] <hiexpo> my flash works snazzy in ubuntu
[01:42] <mas> hola donde hay un chat en español??
[01:42] <rewire> WXZ: seems to be great for me :D
[01:42] <Jordan_U> !es | mas
[01:42] <hiexpo> !es
[01:42] <watisdis> if I bought a usb card to put in my expansion slots, would that be fail as well?
[01:42] <rewire> WXZ: did it work ok on previous versions?
[01:42] <WXZ> not great rewire
[01:43] <rewire> WXZ: have you tryed installing alternative flash runtimes?
[01:43] <WXZ> how can I test if it's my hardware or ubuntu?
[01:43] <WXZ> there are alternative flash runtimes?
[01:43] <WXZ> any that are specifically designed for ubuntu or linux?
[01:44] <mas> hello
[01:44] <rewire> WXZ: yeah if you search for "Flash" in the ubuntu software center, there is an alternative open-source flash runtime for those hardcore "open source only" users.
[01:44] <peepz> what does this mean:
[01:44] <peepz> Add ~/.cljr/bin/ to your path (or copy the platform appropriate cljr script to your path).
[01:44] <mas> which dist is better, ubuntu or Arch Linux??
[01:44] <Quantum_Ion> Linux is not annoying it just takes a while to learn it
[01:44] <Quantum_Ion> Trial and Error type scenario's
[01:44] <WXZ> see, in my vm
[01:44] <sikilpaake> is /tmp the place that gets cleaned out everytime you reboot?
[01:44] <WXZ> windows vm, it runs more smoothly
[01:45] <tensorpudding> peepz: it means there is a program in ~/.cljr/bin that it wants to run, but cannot
[01:45] <WXZ> and it's a vm :/
[01:45] <tensorpudding> peepz: because that path is not in the PATH variable
[01:45] <hiexpo> !best \ mas`
[01:45] <peepz> so what do I do????
[01:45] <WXZ> so I'm pretty sure that narrows it down to ubuntu being at fault
[01:45] <tensorpudding> peepz: so the options are to either cp/ln the binaries in that folder to someplace in PATH, or add that path to PATH in your shell's configuration
[01:45] <st> which ubuntu file manager can mount disks automatically and browse network>?
[01:46] <rewire> its probably not so much of ubuntu's fault as it is adobe's for not optimising flash for *NIX systems
[01:46] <peepz> where is path
[01:46] <WXZ> well yeah rewire
[01:46] <tensorpudding> peepz: PATH is an environment variable that tells the shell where to look for binary files
[01:46] <peepz> ok thanks
[01:46] <WXZ> anyway, the point being it's *not* my hardware
[01:47] <esteban> how can i solve this problem with Mesa installation? http://pastebin.com/pj0SqbkP
[01:47] <wieshka> rewire: adobe is now working on NIX very actively
[01:47] <mmoebius> st: Probably there is nothing. If you need that, go to KDE and conqueror. then you have to do with Kubuntu
[01:47] <wieshka> last updates already supports GPU accelaration for NVIDA ION & some other chipsets
[01:47] <elysium> can anyone help me with my internet connection on my fresh ubuntu install?
[01:48] <wieshka> !ask | elysium
[01:48] <tensorpudding> peepz: if you want to try the latter option you have to add a line like 'export PATH=$PATH:/home/<your username>/.cljr/bin'
[01:48] <tensorpudding> peepz: to your shell configuration file, probably at ~/.bashrc
[01:48] <rewire> WXZ: you can try here http://osflash.org/open_source_flash_projects#flash_players for alternative runtimes, they may not support everything flash offers (AS3 and ver10 support) but may improve you experience with stuff like youtube
[01:48] <WXZ> oh btw
[01:48] <wieshka> |details | elysium
[01:48] <WXZ> what's the karmic koala repository url?
[01:48] <hiexpo> elysium, be more specific
[01:48] <st> i don't need that bloated gnome/kde shit, i need a slim manager which can do elementary actions like this, wtf?
[01:48] <mmoebius> st: Disks should be auto-mounted under any *ubunu version. Unles you think "diskette" which ahs no mechanism for insertion/removal detection :-(
[01:48] <wieshka> !details | elysium
[01:49] <jakegub> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/jShgWZBD
[01:49] <maco> !language | st
[01:49] <elysium> ok, details coming
[01:49] <mmoebius> st: If you need it slim, do it by hand. mount /dev/drive /media/drive isn't too much, ist it ?
[01:49] <mas> how i can install coverflow in nautilus in ubuntu 10.04 (clutterflow)???
[01:49] <maco> st: automounting of removable drives is a function of the desktop environment
[01:49] <Sylphid|netbook> mas, im not sure that you will get an unbiased response from here but ubuntu and arch are different beasts and "better" depends on what you are looking for
[01:50] <elijah> I just mounted an external HFS+ filesystem and cannot put any new folders or files on it. I have the HFS tools and when I use Gparted>File System Support, HFS+ has green for everything except grow and label. When I go to permissions for the mounted filesystem it says user:501 group: dialout - Any ideas?
[01:50] <hiexpo> !best
[01:50] <mmoebius> st: All the automounting has a big drawback: Unm,ounting is not really predictable. And in general, you will not want to removee physical media that are in use even if they are beeing read only
[01:50] <elysium> I am running Ubuntu 9.10 on a dell inspiron 531s. After the fresh install, neither the ethernet nor the wireless works
[01:50] <Jordan_U> jakegub: Ok, that's likely the problem. The Ubuntu installer is probably reading the GUID partition table, and the kernel is reading the msdos partition table (or visa versa).
[01:51] <st> who populates /media dir?
[01:51] <rewire> mas: http://www.ubunter.com/apps/blog/show/2915749-how-to-install-clutterflow-on-ubuntu
[01:51] <hiexpo> elysium, ok thats a start no internet no we need what wifi card what eth card and version of each to determine the problem
[01:51] <mmoebius> elijah: Do you have a line in /etc/fstab for that HFS files system ?
[01:51] <wieshka> looks like Ubuntu 10.04 alt installator has bug - by selecting video editing tools software install fails
[01:52] <fedora_newb> anytime i try to open an .exe with wine, i keep getting "the file *** is not marked as executable. If this was a downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.
[01:52] <hiexpo> ^now
[01:52] <fedora_newb> how do i fix this?
[01:52] <elijah> mmoebius: Not yet, do I need one?
[01:52] <mmoebius> st: I think (but not 100% sure) it's udisks
[01:52] <mmoebius> elijah: If you want options set like e.g. the "owner" of the fs, you may need one
[01:52] <mmoebius> elijah: read 'man mount' if there's something about hfs options
[01:52] <edbian> fedora_newb, Right click the file.  Go the file permissions tab.  Check the execute check box.
[01:52] <elysium> i am not sure how to find those out. the wireless card came with the computer and the ethernet is onboard
[01:52] <Jordan_U> jakegub: One of the partition tables contains no partitions, probably the GPT one. Select MBR and see if gdisk lists your partitions. If it does, and if it gives an option to remove the GUID partition table then do that (Nothing is actually written to disk by gdisk untill you enter "w").
[01:53] <josh99> What's it take to get ffmpeg to encode to MP3? libavcodec1d is already the newest version.
[01:53] <elijah> mmoebius: I need this drive to stay the way it is because I need to exchange data back and forth via my Mac at work, will doing that allow me to do that?
[01:53] <tensorpudding> fedora_newb: you probably need to mark the .exe file as executable
[01:53] <elijah> mmoebius: Ok, I will read up
[01:53] <tensorpudding> fedora_newb: you can do this using chmod +x
[01:53] <fedora_newb> thanks guys, that worked
[01:54] <mmoebius> elijah: there is an uid=n option for hfs, so most likely you will want to have that uid match the uid your user has, see 'id'
[01:54] <esteban> how can i solve this problem of compilation? http://pastebin.com/pj0SqbkP
[01:55] <mmoebius> elijah: You can use the option "noauto" to have the drive only mounted at your request if neeed. And you should add the option "users" or "user" (see 'man mount' again for the fine print)
[01:55] <rewire> fedora_newb: right click on the .exe and select propertys, from there permisions and tix the box that says "allow exicution of this file"
[01:55] <rewire> lol beaten to t
[01:55] <mmoebius> elijah: That way you make the filesystem user mounteable, that is you eliminate the need to use sudo ;.)
[01:55] <rewire> it*
[01:56] <tensorpudding> esteban: looks like a bunch of stuff isn't included
[01:56] <elijah> mmoebius: Is this something I would put in fstab?
[01:56] <mmoebius> josh99: is *ubuntu-restricted-extras installed ?
[01:56] <fluvvell> anyone familiar with firestarter, using it for internet sharing but its blocking dhcp requests,specifically 255.255.255.255 broadcasts. I've turned them to allow in the config ...
[01:56] <josh99> mmoebius: Doubt it. Obtained those packages manually. I'll check.
[01:56] <mmoebius> elijah: usually yes
[01:57] <fedora_newb> trying to get counter strike source working on ubuntu...so wish me luck :D
[01:57] <esteban> tensorpudding any ideas?
[01:57] <tensorpudding> esteban: you probably should ask on the forums of whatever software it is you're trying to compile
[01:57] <rewire> fedora_newb: have you tryed using "play on linux"?
[01:57] <esteban> should i bring more information?
[01:57] <mmoebius> josh99: You need all those non-free codec packages. *restricted-extras is only a meta package, but it may help :-)
[01:57] <fedora_newb> rewire. no.
[01:58] <fedora_newb> using wine, rewire
[01:58] <mmoebius> elijah: us: Doubt it. Obtained those packages manually. I'll check.
[01:58] <alesan> hi why can't I install a i386 package on a amd64 ubuntu installation?
[01:58] <mmoebius> crap.Keyboard.
[01:59] <rewire> fedora_newb: playonlinux is a system that uses wine (it will install it as a pre-requisit) that will optimise the settings to make sure that the program you select from the list inside of playonlinux works
[01:59] <josh99> mmoebius: Happen to be able to list them?
[01:59] <rewire> if you wanna install commonly used apps, use POL
[01:59] <alesan> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mjpg-streamer/files/ -> this program is provided as a i386 .deb packet
[01:59] <elysium> i do not care about the wireless card I just need the ethernet connection to work
[01:59] <jakegub> Jordan_U: Do I need to hit w and then run gparted?
[01:59] <mmoebius> mmoebius: If you get an idea of what to put into fstab, you can always try it out. the risk of losing dat is minimal
[02:00] <mmoebius> josh99: list what ?
[02:00] <mmoebius> josh99: the coidecs ?
[02:00] <Jordan_U> jakegub: Can you pastebin all the output from gdisk?
[02:00] <hiexpo> elysium, did you ifconfig to see ?
[02:00] <josh99> mmoebius: Indeed.
[02:01] <edbian> hiexpo, hello :)
[02:01] <elysium> what should I see on ifconfig?
[02:01] <hiexpo> hello edbian
[02:01] <josh99> mmoebius: Because the only thing ffmpeg tells me is that MP4's unsupported.
[02:01] <mmoebius> josh99: I just go for all *restriced-extras packages the ubunut's offer :-) Just get it all and be over with it once and forever
[02:01] <josh99> s/4/3
[02:02] <hiexpo> edbian, :)
[02:02] <mmoebius> josh99: Installing the meta-packaga will not hurt you. It just pulls in some maybe not-yet installed packages
[02:02] <edbian> How can I manually overwrite the MBR on a hdd?  I have a working live USB (Ubuntu) ?
[02:02] <Charbel> where can i download a paltalk plugin for pidgin ?
[02:02] <Anarkay> im a noob
[02:02] <Jordan_U> jakegub: I'm going to need to leave in about 5 minutes.
[02:03] <Anarkay> noob needs help
[02:03] <edbian> Anarkay, What's your problem.
[02:03] <Blue1Away> Charbel: wow they still have paltak?  I thought that disappeared off the planet a decade ago.
[02:03] <mmoebius> edbian: dd if=source of=/dev/target bs=512 count=1 <--- this writes 1 512 byte sector on the disk
[02:03] <fedora_newb> man...steam pretty laggy...hopefully css will run alot smoother when its installed :(
[02:03] <Anarkay> im on backtrack 4
[02:03] <edbian> mmoebius, 512 bytes of "00000.." ?
[02:03] <rewire> well you are running windows binarys on linux ^^
[02:03] <ratdog> SoS: i lost my panels & applets, and cant add them back. What the terminal command to reset the Panels  & applets?
[02:03] <edbian> mmoebius, Thanks. That out to do it! :D
[02:03] <josh99> mmoebius: Is there a regex I can pass to do that? It doesn't like just *-restricted-extras.
[02:03] <mmoebius> edbian: if you use /dev/zero as "source" ,. yes
[02:03] <Charbel> hahaha Blue1Away no it stil exist
[02:03] <Charbel> still*
[02:03] <edbian> mmoebius, I see.  Thanks again
[02:04] <Blue1Away> hmm
[02:04] <Anarkay> i almost got it figured out
[02:04] <hiexpo> !backtarck-linux
[02:04] <Anarkay> ya!
[02:04] <fedora_newb> anyone know of a really good tutorial on install like apache/php/mysql/mail server/ etc?
[02:04] <fedora_newb> thats updated
[02:04] <edbian> ratdog, gnome-panel&
[02:04] <hiexpo> !backtrack
[02:04] <aguitel> what the best apps to rip audio cd ?
[02:04] <at05gt> doesnt rhythmbox do that?
[02:04] <ratdog> applets
[02:04] <mmoebius> josh99: oh, do 'apt-cache search restricted-extras' first
[02:05] <josh99> thanks!
[02:05] <rewire> fedora_newb: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[02:05] <Anarkay> :/
[02:05] <hiexpo> Anarkay, #backtrack-linux
[02:05] <jakegub> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/DWRVvVEx
[02:05] <mmoebius> josh99: You might want to get e.g. kubunut-restricted-extras too, if you ar on kubuntu. Same thing for xubuntu nad maybe others
[02:05] <mmoebius> josh99: definitively get ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:05] <fedora_newb> rewire...didn't know they made one for linux...i use them on my windows :D
[02:05] <fedora_newb> thanks
[02:06] <rewire> haha yeah they ported it to win/lin/mac xD
[02:06] <rewire> np :D
[02:06] <ratdog> someone here told me how before, i cant acess my notes
[02:06] <at05gt> why are they called restricted extras?
[02:06] <at05gt> just curious
[02:06] <rewire> anywho, its 2am so im off xD
[02:06] <Blue1> fedora_newb: http://flipsidereality.com/blog/uncategorized/lamp-on-debian-ubuntu-mint-etc-one-line-install/
[02:07] <hiexpo> 1restricted > at05gt
[02:07] <josh99> mmoebius: Everything that printed is apt-getting now. This'll take a while. Cheers.
[02:07] <Jordan_U> jakegub: Try "p", if that lists your partitions then use "w".
[02:07] <mmoebius> at05gt: Because there are e.g. unclear licenses or the packages can be outright illegal in some countries
[02:07] <at05gt> ahh makes sense
[02:07] <n0a1ias> Jordan_U, is ur last name Ugo
[02:07] <ratdog> terminal command to reset panels?
[02:07] <edbian> mmoebius, This appears to have solved my problem.  I love Linux.  Thank you very very much.
[02:08] <Jordan_U> n0a1ias: No, Uggla.
[02:08] <n0a1ias> ha i was close
[02:08] <edbian> ratdog, gnome-panel&
[02:08] <ratdog> really
[02:08] <edbian> ratdog, Didn't we already do this? :)
[02:08] <jakegub> Jordan_U: Done.  P listed partitions, so I hit w
[02:08] <ratdog> heh
[02:08] <edbian> ratdog, yes really
[02:08] <ratdog> lol
[02:08] <ratdog> ok
[02:08] <mmoebius> edbian: You're welcome :-) dd is a mighty tool. try to read 'man dd' if you have the time ever. This thingie is used e.g. fopr recovery of broken hard drives, too
[02:08] <gstarx90> !end-of-life
[02:09] <Jordan_U> jakegub: If that doesn't remove the GPT then you'll have to use another option that I can't remember off the top of my head, and I need to leave now. I'll be back in 4/5 hours though.
[02:09] <edbian> mmoebius, Appears my partition table is gone too now!
[02:09] <edbian> mmoebius, ha ha ha
[02:09] <edbian> mmoebius, Good bye windows xp!
[02:10] <gstarx90> o.o
[02:10] <at05gt> Grats
[02:10] <ZekeS> ... wow.  It just hit me that I've been sitting here making filesystem changes/editing fstab/other stuff in the terminal instead of the gui tools.  Dang being used to Ubuntu Server --;
[02:11] <gstarx90> owned
[02:11] <gstarx90> ok, if i install kubuntu-desktop do i get the latest kde
[02:11] <elysium> on ifconfig it says Link encap:Local Loopback  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0  inet6 addr:   : :1/128  Scope:host  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436  Metric:1  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen: 0 RX bytes :0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[02:11] <ZekeS> gstarx90: the latest one in the repository
[02:11] <ZekeS> Which may or may not be the actual latest version
[02:11] <gstarx90> close enough ;x
[02:11] <mmoebius> edbian: Whoops, that was an unwanted side-effect
[02:12] <ratdog> edbian terminal told me, [1] 3309
[02:12] <mmoebius> edbian: You could try using the "gpart" tool to restore the partitions if needed
[02:12] <ratdog> is that a prob :/
[02:12] <Anarkay> when i use the shell konsole on backtrack it doesn't detect my interface, what am i doing wrong
[02:12] <hiexpo> gstarx90, check in distrowatch.com please
[02:12] <IdleOne> Anarkay: asking about backtrack in #ubuntu
[02:12] <IdleOne> !backtrack | Anarkay
[02:12] <edbian> mmoebius, I don't care.  My new problem is that the installer keeps crashing when it starts to write to the new partition.
[02:13] <hiexpo> Anarkay, this is not backtrack support go to #backtrack-linux
[02:13] <Charbel> where can i download a paltalk plugin for pidgin ?
[02:13] <edbian> ratdog, Did the panels show up?
[02:13] <mmoebius> edbian: The installer that's the one on the usb stick ? How'd you get the bootable usb stick ?
[02:14] <ratdog> wait
[02:14] <mmoebius> edbian: or short: Which installer ist it ? Standard or "Alternative" ?
[02:14] <ratdog> worked now
[02:14] <ratdog> ty
[02:14] <at05gt> mmoebius: you have to make a live disk on the usb drive to get it bootable
[02:14] <ratdog> now lost them again
[02:15] <edbian> mmoebius, I have a Debian machine.  Used it to build the USB stick.  When I run the USB stick on the target machine all works fine.  Until the installer starts to write to the target hdd partition.  Get's to about 5% and freezes then crashes
[02:15] <mmoebius> edbian: Did you make new partitions with e.g. fdisk and did you reboot or 'partprobe' to have the (new) partitions recognized ?
[02:15] <hiexpo> Charbel, i just google paltalk plugin for pidgin
[02:15] <edbian> mmoebius, I choose "use entire disk" in the installer
[02:15] <edbian> mmoebius, Should I wipe the driver proper?
[02:15] <mmoebius> edbian: Then the installer will partition it.
[02:15] <edbian> mmoebius, That's what I figured.
[02:15] <dejavou42> hey everyone, need a little help getting a net install working. I configured everything as said on the ubuntu website, but I thought I might take it a step further and try to get the net live cd working. The instructions say to either mount the iso to the tftpboot root directory or extract the files to that location.
[02:15] <mmoebius> edbian: That'll be as good as wiped
[02:15] <Yan_Nick> hey guys, how can i execute following if my server started?: cd /root/apache-solr-1.4.0/example/ && java -jar start.jar
[02:15] <edbian> mmoebius, Well the installer still crashed at about 5%
[02:16] <edbian> mmoebius, It's doing it as we speak!
[02:16] <mmoebius> edbian: Is the drive physically ok ? Is is pata or sata or scsi ?
[02:16] <dejavou42> Problem is, I mounted the iso, but the client will not boot the live cd
[02:16] <edbian> mmoebius, It's in a netbook.  I don't actually know.  Never took it out.
[02:16] <at05gt> whats the best windows version to use for wine? XP?
[02:16] <Charbel> hiexpo, i google it and all i found forums and Gaim plugin but not available to download
[02:16] <dejavou42> at05gt: depends on what program you're trying to run.
[02:16] <arrrghhh> hey all, can anyone help me with samba?  i'm having client-side issues.  it's asking certain clients for a user/pass, and other clients get no prompt...
[02:17] <at05gt> DS emulator to play my old pokemon games, dont laugh at me there fun
[02:17] <lake> Is there anyway to see a wifi password in plaintext that has been saved through NetworkManager?
[02:17] <edbian> mmoebius, gparted seems to have no trouble clearing it out.
[02:17] <mmoebius> edbian: Mayba you should check the drive's health with the smartmontools the command is 'smartctl'
[02:17] <arrrghhh> lake, probably easier to get it off of the router.
[02:17] <hiexpo> lake, no
[02:17] <dejavou42> at05gt: have you checked to wine app db?
[02:18] <edbian> mmoebius, Command not found.
[02:18] <edbian> mmoebius, You don't have some other tool on mind do you?
[02:18] <edbian> mmoebius, Can gparted check a drive that has no partitions?
[02:18] <at05gt> dejavou42: i just installed wine im configing it now
[02:18] <arrrghhh> !enter | edbian
[02:18] <mmoebius> edbian: yeah, but gparted will only need to check out hte partition table and maybe a few kb around the partition boundaries. So if there is a write error in the middle of the disk, the system may hang when it writes there
[02:18] <edbian> arrrghhh, Sorry
[02:19] <arrrghhh> edbian, no prob.  looks like you probably just need to install those tools.
[02:19] <mmoebius> edbian: smart is smart, there's no 2nd implementation of it, sorry
[02:19] <dejavou42> check the wine app db to see if the program you're trying to install is supported. http://appdb.winehq.org/
[02:19] <at05gt> thanks deja
[02:19] <elijah> mmoebius: Thanks, I am getting closer
[02:19] <edbian> i have no internet
[02:19] <racerd> hey
[02:20] <dejavou42> at05gt: np
[02:20] <mmoebius> edbian: can't you apt-get install smartmontools in the live environment ?
[02:20] <racerd> what is the command to open the alsa sound options in terminal?
[02:20] <elijah> My mic on my laptop is not working, is there an equivalent of Windows device/hardware manager where I can see all my devices with missing drivers?
[02:20] <edbian> mmoebius, I don't know if I can get the wifi up cli only?
[02:20] <edbian> mmoebius, The gui wouldn't load.  Lemme try again
[02:20] <mmoebius> edbian: A cable would be *way* easier
[02:21] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: If I'm not mistaken samba uses the usernames and passwords from the host computer to authenticate
[02:21] <mmoebius> edbian: wifi on the cli is hard if you need e.g. wpa (wpasupplicant)
[02:21] <edbian> mmoebius, arrrghhh Don't have one I'm afraid.  I agree though.  I'm gonna reboot it.  (I do need wpa2 encypt)
[02:21] <arrrghhh> dejavou42, but why would my laptop sometimes ask for a password, but on my gf's it never asks?  i've even tried "saving" it on my laptop, no luck.
[02:21] <racerd> does no one know?
[02:21] <mmoebius> edbian: without security (maybe wep only) wifi on the cli is doable
[02:21] <elijah> mmoebius: Can I only mount a device if it is in fstab? I try mount /etc/sda1 as root and it says "mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[02:22] <mmoebius> elijah: root can mount anything anywhere. Users need fstab entries
[02:22] <edbian> elijah, Give it a folder to mount in!
[02:22] <hiexpo> edbian, :)
[02:22] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: You should be able to check something like "remember this password" on the client machines. This is probably why some of the computers being asked for credentials
[02:22] <edbian> hiexpo, What are you grinning at me for? :P
[02:22] <mmoebius> elijah: mount /etc/sda1 /mnt shourd work
[02:22] <at05gt> lol wow guild wars works
[02:22] <arrrghhh> dejavou42, i tried that...
[02:23] <hiexpo> edbian,  \ are you testing or are you really down ?
[02:23] <arrrghhh> "i've even tried "saving" it on my laptop, no luck."
[02:23] <edbian> hiexpo, pardon?
[02:23] <elysium> hiexpo, did you see anything in the ifconfig screen that i posted?
[02:23] <IdleOne> Charbel: from what I can see there is no paltalk plugin for pidgin and they don't seem to have plans for it either. You can try www.paltalkexpress.com
[02:23] <hiexpo> edbian, you haveno internet ?
[02:24] <uLinux> I'm trying to resize ext4 partition using 30GB that I was using for Windows.. but it seens I can't do that
[02:24] <uLinux> need urgent help
[02:24] <Charbel> ok thx IdleOne
[02:24] <uLinux> http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/189/selection001lq.png
[02:24] <mmoebius> hiexpo: Of cource edbian has no internet. You're chating with a ghost ;-)
[02:24] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: hmm check your samba settings system --> administration--> samba. Then go to preferences --> server settings
[02:24] <edbian> hiexpo, I have no internet on the target machine.  This machine (the one I'm talking to you on) quite obviously has internet. Of course it does though.  This is my baby! :)
[02:25] <arrrghhh> dejavou42, ah.  it's a server.  i have webmin to configure samba, or the conf file :D
[02:25] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: are you allowing a guest account? what is the authentication mode?
[02:25] <edbian> mmoebius, arrrghhh Speaking of.  I know have internet (and a complete graphical live instance) on the target machine.  I'm gonna install smartlctrl.  Is that the package name?
[02:25] <mmoebius> edbian: package is "smartmontools"
[02:25] <at05gt> wine works but ive got no sound
[02:25] <arrrghhh> dejavou42, yes i believe i have the guest account enabled.
[02:25] <at05gt> nevermind fixed it
[02:26] <elijah> I just tried "dmidecode" and it gave me some good info but is not listing my laptop mic. Any way to find out what my laptop mic is called so I can Google driver support for Linux?
[02:26] <hiexpo> mmoebius, ok
[02:26] <edbian> mmoebius, Thanks.  I'll get it and run it and let you know.  The command is smartctl ?
[02:26] <mmoebius> uLinux: What size do you want for /dev/sda5 ?
[02:26] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: that could be why it prompts sometimes and other times doesn't. Try turning that off and it should prompt all the time.
[02:27] <mmoebius> edbian: yes "smartctl" usually "smartctl -a /dev/whatever"
[02:27] <arrrghhh> dejavou42, lol what if i never want it to prompt... i'd prefer no password authentication.  i know, not secure... but it's only on my lan.
[02:27] <cakeman007> I have a question
[02:27] <uLinux> mmoebius: I want to use those unallocated 30gb..
[02:28] <edbian> mmoebius, I got a lot of errors about public keys not available?
[02:28] <uLinux> where windows was installed
[02:28] <hiexpo> cakeman007, ask full ?
[02:28] <cakeman007> i have 10.04 Ubuntu 64bit, and i do not have the option to connect to any wifi
[02:28] <edbian> I have no keys.
[02:28] <edbian> OMG
[02:28] <mmoebius> edbian: you may need to issue "smartctl -s on /dev/whatever" before you can use smart (enableing it on the device). But you see that if smartctl -a throws an error
[02:28] <goku_> Commodore USA!!!
[02:28] <cakeman007> no drop down menu
[02:28] <cakeman007> or anything
[02:29] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: Not really sure, I haven't dug into samba that far, but My guess would be to try domain.
[02:29] <elijah> mmoebius: Will logging out and back in be good enough to load fstab?
[02:29] <edbian> mmoebius, No no.  I can't even apt-get update.  I have no public keys.  Where can I get them?
[02:29] <ratdog> ty, brb
[02:29] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: As long as all of your computers are on the same domain, it should authenticate
[02:29] <mmoebius> uLinux: You want to use the unallocated Partition before /dev/sda2 , right ?
[02:29] <uLinux> yes mmoebius
[02:30] <arrrghhh> dejavou42, hrm.  is that supported in samba v3?  i know they're making a lot of big promises for v4... but last i tried it wasn't nearly production-ready.
[02:30] <mmoebius> uLinux: That is not easily possible because /dev/sda2 is an extended partition and will AFAIK not move whern there are other partitions inside it.
[02:30] <Mathuin> Is it possible to configure Ubuntu Netbook Remix (or whatever it's currently called) to not lock the screen if AC power is detected?  The power management and screensaver options don't show any easy way.
[02:30] <mmoebius> uLinux: is there data in the ext4 FS  that needs to be retained ?
[02:30] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: don't know about the webmin interface, but it sure is an option on my box. 10.04
[02:30] <dejavou42> desktop
[02:31] <cakeman007> ?
[02:31] <mmoebius> uLinux: Otherwise, you could just kill all partitions and re-setup them fresh and clean
[02:31] <dejavou42> Can anyone help me with a ubuntu net installation using Live CD?
[02:31] <arrrghhh> dejavou42, do you know what version of samba you're running?  if you didn't do any mucking with your repo's i'd assume v3...
[02:31] <edbian> mmoebius, What if I just create a new partition table?
[02:32] <edbian> How can I get the public keys for Ubuntu Netbook?  Anybody?
[02:32] <uLinux> mmoebius: yes .. it seems I have to reinstall everything again just because I had windows installed .. really lame
[02:32] <rooks> is help.ubuntu.com down?
[02:32] <goku_> does ubuntu officially support computers made by Commodore USA???
[02:32] <goku_> ;p
[02:32] <elysium> do i have to give any more information to help any potential problem solvers?
[02:32] <mmoebius> edbian: Well, we wiped your old partition table, that means the harddisk is now about as clean as it can get. You *have to* create a new partition table
[02:32] <josh99> mmoebius: Finished installing; no dice
[02:32] <mmoebius> uLinux: Well, not necessarily
[02:32] <edbian> mmoebius, gparted seems to think there is one there.  msdos
[02:33] <josh99> mmoebius: In regard to getting ffmpeg to export MP3
[02:33] <arrrghhh> rooks, not for me.  you can always use http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ :D
[02:33] <mmoebius> josh99: Still no mp3 encoding ?
[02:33] <rooks> arrrghhh, k, thx :)
[02:33] <josh99> mmoebius: Affirmative
[02:33] <mmoebius> josh99:I am out of clues. Did you e.g. reboot so all libraries can reload
[02:33] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: 3.4.7
[02:33] <at05gt> haha WOOT got my emulato working with wine and it recognized my saves
[02:33] <josh99> mmoebius: No; I assumed it'd gripe
[02:33] <at05gt> emulator*
[02:34] <arrrghhh> dejavou42, hrm.  alrighty, i'll pokie around.  thanks!
[02:34] <josh99> rebooting...
[02:34] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: np
[02:34] <mmoebius> edbian: Then gparted has detected some backup copy of the partition table. Wiping sector 0 of the disk should pretty much have busted the partition table.
[02:34] <edbian> mmoebius, k
[02:34] <cakeman007> i have 10.04 Ubuntu 64bit, and i do not have the option to connect to any wifi. help plz?
[02:34] <edbian> mmoebius, gparted is very low level.  Perhaps it's just saying things.
[02:34] <Ivis> can someone please tell me ubuntu beta channel ?
[02:34] <mmoebius> edbian: create a new table if possible (that is no valueable data left on the disk)
[02:35] <administrator_> guys is there any command line to extract resource from a windows game ?
[02:35] <mmoebius> uLinux: You have data (an installed os) in the ext4 fs, right ?
[02:35] <edbian> mmoebius, I'm have an idea.  I'm going to create a partition that's set back a bit on the disk.  If there is a physical problem somewhere maybe I can just avoid it to get a working os on here.
[02:35] <awesome_guest> hi, how easy is it to dual boot if you have windows7 install first?
[02:35] <cakeman007> >:(
[02:35] <hiexpo> cakeman007,   > i have 10.04 Ubuntu 64bit, and i do not have the option to connect to any wifi  < first iwconfig   > than what is yor comp ? > what is your wifi card / brand > model # version #
[02:35] <uLinux> mmoebius: i dont know man it's data (documents, music etc
[02:35] <arrrghhh> awesome_guest, same hard drive or 2 hard drives...?
[02:35] <Dulak> !maverick Ivis
[02:35] <mmoebius> edbian: gparted is also quite smart. There are ways (like gpart (not geparted!) does to detect partitions even without partition table
[02:36] <Dulak> !maverick | Ivis
[02:36] <edbian> mmoebius, I see
[02:36] <Ivis> Dulak,  Thanks mate! :)
[02:36] <awesome_guest> arrrghhh: same hd
[02:36] <cakeman007> hiexpo, i cant get to it right now
[02:36] <arrrghhh> awesome_guest, it's much easier to install ubuntu first.
[02:36] <cakeman007> im on my mac
[02:37] <mmoebius> uLinux: There is of course the option to shift the whole filesystem by hand. But the procedure is rather dangerous. Would it suffice for you if you could mount the remaining 30gb e.g. like /extra30gb ?
[02:37] <hiexpo> cakeman007, well when you can i am sure we can help you more   ")
[02:37] <elysium> 9.10 version of ubuntu with dell inspiron 531s. onboard ethernet not working to connect to internet
[02:37] <cakeman007> hiexpo,  thats the problem
[02:37] <awesome_guest> arrrghhh: could you point me to an up to date dual boot guide, by any chance?
[02:37] <awesome_guest> I can just dl the latest image and use that
[02:37] <arrrghhh> awesome_guest, you can do it, but win7 will blast out grub & your ubuntu install.  so then you'll have to boot back to a livecd and fix grub.  plus, if you didn't leave any raw unallocated space... you'll have to resize the existing partition.
[02:38] <cakeman007> hiexpo, i cant pull up irc while im on linux because i dont have wifi!
[02:38] <uLinux> mmoebius: no I dont want that
[02:38] <awesome_guest> arrrghhh: so win7 first?
[02:38] <uLinux> unfortunately for me
[02:38] <FyreFoX> how to troubleshoot F1-F12 keys not working in lucid with a microsoft 1000 wireless keyboard?
[02:38] <hiexpo> cakeman007, open a terminal iwconfig
[02:38] <mmoebius> uLinux: Even if you use gparted, wouldf you have a backup of the stuff ? Using gparted can lead to catastrophic failures if something unexpected happens
[02:38] <arrrghhh> awesome_guest, yes install win7 first.  leave some raw unpartitioned space for ubuntu.  then install ubuntu, using the remaining unpartitioned space on the hd.
[02:39] <awesome_guest> yeah that sounds good
[02:39] <awesome_guest> thanks
[02:39] <cakeman007> hiexpo, i cant!
[02:39] <arrrghhh> awesome_guest, and google is awesome.  here's the official ubuntu doc - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[02:39] <cakeman007> hiexpo im on my mac!
[02:39] <mmoebius> uLinux: You don't want waht ? Shifting by hand or mounting the extra space ?
[02:39] <cakeman007> i have it on dual boot
[02:39] <elysium> hiexpo, i posted the full results of the ifconfig
[02:39] <ragebot> anyone know why g++ --version would tell me that g++ is not installed with synaptic clearly shows that g++ 4.1 is installed?
[02:39] <awesome_guest> hokay
[02:40] <uLinux> mmoebius: I dont a separate partition for the 30gb tks for the help anyway
[02:40] <uLinux> dont want
[02:40] <mmoebius> elijah: fstab is consulted every time "mount" or "umount" nruns. there's no need to logout/in. The change is instanteous
[02:40] <primedeath> Hello folks, I am h aving a problem installing programs from the Ubuntu Software Center. It says there was a programming error in aptdaemon.
[02:40] <awesome_guest> do you know if lucid works well with SSD's?
[02:40] <primedeath> Anyway I can reinstall/fix this?
[02:40] <hiexpo> elysium, where?
[02:41] <Kane_hart> is there something to test out my hdd performance via ssh
[02:41] <ragebot> primedeath, have you tried to use synaptic?
[02:41] <primedeath> Negative.
[02:41] <primedeath> I am a complete noob. ;D
[02:41] <elijah> mmoebius: Thanks! I would never had known that!
[02:41] <elysium> n ifconfig it says Link encap:Local Loopback  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0  inet6 addr:   : :1/128  Scope:host  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436  Metric:1  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen: 0 RX bytes :0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[02:41] <ragebot> primedeath, I would try to use Synaptic.  the software center is very buggy
[02:41] <mmoebius> uLinux: you could try duplicating the existing filesystem to the unoccupied partition if it fits there. then you use that and later, you kill /dev/sda5, then you expand the now existing partition (dev/sda1 to fill the wohle drive
[02:42] <primedeath> Ah, okay. Where would I Acquire that? Just google it?
[02:42] <hiexpo> wasting my time sorry we use pastebin here   gotta go help someone else
[02:42] <mmoebius> uLinux: Of course you have to be lucky,  i.e. /dev/sda5 has to "fit" in the first partition
[02:42] <ragebot> primedeath, it is already installed.  It does the same basic thing as software  center
[02:42] <tim> Where to acquire Synaptic?
[02:42] <ragebot> are you using kde or gnome?
[02:43] <IdleOne> primedeath: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[02:43] <rallias> how do i set a ppa as one of the sources for ubuntu server 10.04?
[02:43] <primedeath> I see Ragebot.
[02:43] <primedeath> Thanks.
[02:43] <elijah> mmoebius: "mount point /media/eli does not exist" any idea? This is following the same pattern as the other drives in fstab.
[02:43] <ragebot> primedeath, NP
[02:43] <mmoebius> elijah: sorry for responding slowly. I hop back and forth between 3 propblems as you see :-)
[02:43] <bastid_raZor> elijah: create the directory /media/eli with sudo mkdir /media/eli
[02:43] <elysium> why don't you enlighten me as to what pastebin is instead of telling me that i am wasting your time? the ifconfig is from another computer
[02:43] <mmoebius> elijah: /media/eli has to be an empty directory
[02:43] <Kane_hart> is there something to test out my hdd performance via ssh
[02:44] <primedeath> Well, I went ahead and did an apt-get install synaptic and it fixed the problem with the USC.
[02:44] <rallias> elysium: ubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:44] <uLinux> How can I remove the XP entry on grub?
[02:44] <primedeath> Fixed those errors I had. :D
[02:44] <mmoebius> elijah: try 'sudo mkdir /media/eli'
[02:44] <FrozenFire[work]> http://i.imgur.com/16PEl.png For some reason, my "system tray" widgets are randomly messed up on login. Does anyone know why this happens?
[02:44] <elijah> mmoebius: Hmm, do my other drives in there need those directories? I see them in there but I didn't make them, did fstab make my other drive directories too?
[02:45] <mmoebius> uLinux: try 'update-grub'
[02:45] <ragebot> uLinux, I believe  there is a config file for grub that you can edit.  However, I cannot remember which file
[02:45] <bastid_raZor> elijah: only if you had them mounted during the install or told the installer where to mount them.
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> !grub
[02:45] <elijah> bastid_raZor: Ok, thanks
[02:46] <drjo> where do i see addded ppa's
[02:46] <drjo> cant find them in sources.list
[02:46] <administrator_> guys is there any command line to extract resource (music, images and stuff) from a windows game ?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> drjo:  they should be listed in  the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory
[02:46] <mmoebius> elijah: no these directories are made when the automounter makes them during automount. Btw: for the "hand created" mountpoints, I'd rather use /mnt/eli in order not to interfere with the automounter which uses /media/<whatever>
[02:46] <ragebot> anyone know what could cause g++ to not be found even though synaptic indicates that it is installed?
[02:46] <elijah> mmoebius: It mounted now, permissions are now root for user and group, I still can't make a new folder on the FS. So now I would unmount and try to mount using that HFS flag right?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> drjo:  adding things to 'sources.list' is considerd a bad  practice these days
[02:46] <drjo> ok
[02:46] <drjo> why is that ?
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> !find g++
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> drjo:  theres no need to be adding them to a 'file' the sources.list.d is a better methodology
[02:47] <mmoebius> elijah: yes, now you'd try the uid=.... option when mounting
[02:47] <drjo> yeah ok:)
[02:47] <drjo> found them now
[02:47] <elysium> thank you rallias
[02:47] <elysium> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/X5ASpEVg
[02:47] <ragebot> Dr_Willis, I have it installed, according to synaptic, but when I try to use it says that g++ cannot be found
[02:48] <edbian> mmoebius, I'm doing dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512    no count
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> ragebot:  try the 'rehash' command to recheck the paths perhaps.
[02:48] <edbian> mmoebius, Just to wipe the drive.
[02:48] <elijah> mmoebius: K
[02:48] <Dr_Willis>  /usr/bin/g++
[02:48] <mmoebius> elijah: if you are mounting as root, you can pass any option with 'mount -o option1=xyz,option2=foo' etc. that saves you from editing /etc/fstab for each attempt
[02:48] <edbian> My ubuntu live USB is missing the public keys to talk to the repos.  Can anybody help?
[02:49] <mmoebius> edbian: That wipes the drive for sure :-)
[02:49] <ragebot> find !reshash
[02:49] <edbian> mmoebius, Can I speed it up with a bigger bs ?
[02:49] <ragebot> !find rehash
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> rehash = bash built in command to recheck the paths/cach of the paths.
[02:49] <golemz> So I downloaded the alternate cd for my amd64/asus a8n32-sli.  I installed it to a usb drive and booted off it, but neither ps2 nor usb keyboard are working - i can't tell it to start the installation!
[02:49] <mmoebius> edbian: you could use a larger bs= to speed up the process as writing 512 bytes at a time is not the optimum for thruput :-) try bs=8M
[02:50] <xfreakk> hi
[02:50] <mmoebius> edbian: yes. I see, you ask the right questions :-)
[02:50] <edbian> mmoebius, Now I'm getting 121 MB/sec instead of 8
[02:50] <ragebot> Dr_Willis, says reshash cannot be found either.  BTW, I am running off of a flashdrive if it make a difference
[02:50] <mordjah_> howdy
[02:50] <edbian> mmoebius, O good! :)
[02:50] <astrocub> in what bundle s the "as" program located?
[02:51] <astrocub> is*
[02:51] <xfreakk> any programmers here have any ideas of open source projects for me to help contribute to? I would like to start getting involved
[02:51] <mmoebius> edbian: That's a netbbook ?
[02:51] <edbian> mmoebius, yeah.  120Gb hdd
[02:51] <astrocub> xfreakk: http://openhatch.org
[02:51] <xfreakk> thanks astrocub
[02:51] <astrocub> np gl
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> ragebot:  its a bash built in.. youi are using bash?
[02:51] <mmoebius> edbian: btw, to get it a little mote "graphic" ,  some people use ddrescue which has the same options as dd but a nice progress indicator and integrated throughput calculator
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> ragebot:  could be your PATH is all wrong or somthiong else  going on.
[02:52] <hiexpo> hello Dr_Willis
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> hi hiexpo
[02:52] <ragebot> Dr_Willis, good questions, I assume XFCE comes with bash.  I don't think it would come with kshell
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> ragebot:  $ echo $SHELL
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> /bin/bash
[02:53] <drjo> nothing on openhatch for java :(
[02:53] <ragebot> Dr_Willis, yup bash
[02:53] <mmoebius> astrocub: do you have "as" installed or are you missing it ?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> ragebot:  path to the binary is --> /usr/bin/g++
[02:54] <hiexpo> all bash best
[02:54] <mordjah_> mm any idea why im not able to join ##java?
[02:54] <mmoebius> astrocub: if you have it installed (most likely) then try 'dpkg -S $(which as)'
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> !register | mordjah_
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> mordjah_:  proberly regiustered nicks only
[02:54] <mordjah_> aah
[02:54] <ragebot> Dr_Willis, yeah, I just checked where is g++ and got nothing.  But yes, /use/bin/ is in the path
[02:54] <hiexpo> hmm
[02:55] <theixle> I'm having trouble printing to a shared printer on a windows machine. I've read all the how-to's on the forum but A) They don't match my kubuntu printer setup options and B) If the windows printer is shared in samba by default I don't know the smb:// address.
[02:56] <drjo> what is ubuntu member ?
[02:56] <IdleOne> !membership | drjo
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> theixle:  you could always use smb://TheMachinesipNumber/
[02:56] <ragebot> Dr_Willis, would there be a difference b/t the default g++ (which I uninstalled) and g++ 4.1 (which is installed)
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> ragebot:  no idea really. I just install build-essential  and thats about it.
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> ragebot:  how did you install 4.1 ?
[02:57] <theixle> Dr_Willis, I tried that it didn't find it in the scan.
[02:57] <ragebot> Dr_Willis, from synatpic
[02:57] <elijah> mmoebius: I am running " sudo mount -o hfs uid=n /dev/sda1" and I get "mount: special device uid=n does not exist"
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> theixle:  you could try the cups web interface also. http://localhost:631
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> work time. bye all.
[02:59] <theixle> anyone else got help for printing to a windows shared printer from ubuntu?
[02:59] <ragebot> Dr_Willis, bye
[02:59] <mmoebius> elijah: a little confusion on your side :-) The right command is 'sudo mount -t hfs -o uid=[put-your-userid-here] /dev/sda1' if you have an fstab entry for it
[02:59] <mmoebius> elijah: and you need your numeric userid for that. Which is it ?
[02:59] <elijah> mmoebius: Ahh, okay, hwo do I find my user id?
[03:00] <fluvvell> does anyone understand firestarter, and why it blocks dhcp requests?
[03:00] <bastid_raZor> elijah: type 'id' in a terminal
[03:00] <mmoebius> elijah: userid: 'id' ... thios tells aoyu also all the groups you are in :-.)
[03:00] <elijah> bastid_raZor: Got it, 1000 it appears
[03:00] <mordjah_> how do i get a channel list?
[03:01] <mmoebius> elijah:the option -h in "mount -t hfs" determines the type of the filesystem. Taht is of course "hfs" for your drive
[03:01] <armyriad> How can I start the User Manager from the command line?
[03:01] <st> does 'smb://' protocol a Nautilus' things, or some other file managers dupport it??
[03:01] <edbian> I cannot install Ubuntu on this netbook.  I'm open to anything at this point.  The installer crashes at 5% every time!
[03:01] <elijah> mmoebius: I ran the above command and it printed out what seems like a mini-help file
[03:02] <edbian> Any ideas are welcome!!!!
[03:02] <st> and other question, can you trcommend me som e gui file manager, the lightr, the bertter
[03:02] <mmoebius> elijah:the option -o in "mount -o uid=..." then sets special options that belong to the hfs filesystem only. Just for info: 'man mount' covers first the general options to 'mount' and then, later on the special options fopr certain filesystems
[03:03] <mmoebius> edbian: what is the partition layout now ? and did "smartctl -a
[03:04] <mmoebius> " return anything useable or errors ?
[03:04] <edbian> mmoebius, I can't get smartctl installed because I have no public keys so I can't talk to the apt package mirrors
[03:04] <edbian> mmoebius, The entire drive is empty. No partitions at all.
[03:04] <mmoebius> elijah: if you just type "id" and hit enter it should work, no ?
[03:04] <mmoebius> edbian: maybe you need a partition table with partitions ?
[03:04] <edbian> mmoebius, Your help is very much appreciated.  Thank you.  I figured you'd be done with me! :P
[03:05] <elijah> mmoebius: I am following you, however that command prints out put like this - http://typr.in/24rq
[03:05] <elijah> mmoebius: "id" works great, I am 1000!
[03:05] <edbian> mmoebius, I'll try it.
[03:06] <mmoebius> elijah: interesting. Then you have to give the "mount-point", too. that is the empty directory you have set up before
[03:06] <edbian> mmoebius, I've tried so many variations now.  I'm sure I've covered this case.
[03:07] <mmoebius> edbian: No, not done with you :-) So, you have some / and some swap partition, i guess ?
[03:07] <edbian> mmoebius, I have 0 partitions.  an empty disk
[03:08] <mmoebius> edbian: btw, what version of ubuntui is it you try to install ? Is it 10.04 ?  Just because i remember some baaaad headaches on a dell laptop with ubuntu 9.04
[03:08] <edbian> 10.04
[03:08] <Fudge> has anyone configured xserver-xorg-video-dummy before and know how to make it work?
[03:08] <edbian> mmoebius, This is an acer aspire one.  I'm installing 10.04 netbook edition using a 1Gb live USB
[03:08] <mmoebius> edbian: use fdisk to make e.g. 20 gb / (root) and 2 gb for swap (just testing, you can resize them later
[03:09] <edbian> mmoebius, Does it make a difference that I did that (almost) exact scenario with gparted?
[03:09] <mmoebius> edbian: I hope the wlan will work for you. I've seen people having headaches with that, but that was a year ago or so
[03:10] <edbian> mmoebius, wlano works on the live USB.  I'd like the installer to work for me.
[03:10] <mmoebius> edbian: No, usuinf gparted or fdisk is pretty much the same on the outcome
[03:10] <edbian> mmoebius, Well then that experiment has been done and it didn't work :(
[03:10] <elijah> mmoebius: I got this to work "sudo mount -t hfsplus -o uid=1000 /dev/sda1 /mnt/eli" however, I am now thinking that hfsplus and hfs are not going to support the same options
[03:10] <edbian> I don't think it's an error with the hdd.  I admit it appears to be.  But I don't think it is.  Anyway, any other suggestions?
[03:10] <elijah> mmoebius: owner of mount point is back at 501
[03:11] <mmoebius> elijah: Oh, i wouldn't know if the drive is hfsplus or hfs formatted. Which filesystem is on the drive ?
[03:11] <elijah> mmoebius: It is hfsplus
[03:11] <bfsd> I'm trying to install truecrypt on my system.  but when i type "sudo sh /home/n/Desktop/truecrypt-7.0a-setup-ubuntu-x86" i only get error message "Can't open /home/n/Desktop/truecrypt-7.0a-setup-ubuntu-x86".  What to do?
[03:11] <edbian> mmoebius, Just a guess here.  I'm gonna try ext3 instead of 4.
[03:12] <edbian> I doubt this will solve the prob though
[03:12] <mmoebius> edbian: ext3 is more tested. go ahead. Good idea.
[03:12] <masen> bfsd: does the file exist (eg can you tab complete to it?) and is it executable
[03:12] <masen> do a ls -la /home/n/Desktop/truecrypt-7.0a-setup-ubuntu-x86
[03:12] <mmoebius> edbian: Actually, I'd say you get the alternate installer (if that is still available with 10.04) and install from text mode.
[03:12] <git__> hi guys
[03:13] <git__> what's a good Gigabit switch for a home office?
[03:13] <mmoebius> edbian: the graphic installer can hang badly  (that was it what ist did for me on the dell laptop)
[03:13] <bfsd> masen not sure what to answer.  It's what i took out of the tar.gz file
[03:13] <git__> and does Ubuntu 10.04 transfer file between two computer as fast as 1,000Mbps?
[03:13] <randomOfAmber> is there some way you can make a flash drive that will authenticate for you when you have it plugged in?  like one full of keys
[03:13] <bfsd> mASEN "ls: cannot access /home/n/Desktop/truecrypt-7.0a-setup-ubuntu-x86: No such file or directory"
[03:13] <mattgyver> probably a stupid question but should sound work in a live cd?  I do not hear anything when running 10.04 on my laptop from a live cd.
[03:14] <mmoebius> edbian: Or: use a micro-SD card and and adaptor. Ehen you can use a "normal" computer and install from the CD-drive, just the install target is the microSD card and not the internal hd
[03:14] <astrocub> Thank you mmoebius, I had it installed. It is located in the binutils package.
[03:14] <masen> bfsd: but you can see the file on your desktop?
[03:14] <edbian> mmoebius, mmmm ext3: same issue.
[03:14] <hiexpo> should
[03:14] <bfsd> masen yes
[03:15] <mmoebius> elijah: unfortunately, i see no options in 'man mouunt' for hfsplus. :-(
[03:15] <bfsd> /home/n/Desktop truecrypt-7.0a-setup-x86
[03:15] <hiexpo> welp gn alll
[03:15] <edbian> mmoebius, I don't have a flash drive that big.  Perhaps I'll try creating a new copy of the USB drive.  That's the only thing I see could be wrong.
[03:15] <wasnik> hhi guys just installed ubuntu netbook
[03:15] <elijah> mmoebius: I just found this from 2008 that says there is no write support for HFS+ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/mounting-hfs-volumes-under-linux-521189/
[03:15] <masen> bfsd: okay, try the ls -la command again, but try to use tab completion in your shell to autocomplete the file name
[03:15] <wasnik> but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:16] <snadg3> i have to manually restart cups and samba to get my printer to share.. is there a workaround for this?
[03:16] <bfsd> masen  tabing gives me this ":~$ ls -la /home/n/Desktop/truecrypt-7.0a-"
[03:17] <mmoebius> elijah: At least in gentoo, the situation seems a (little) differnt: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Hfsplus
[03:17] <wasnik> just installed ubuntu netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:17] <masen> bfsd: then push tab twice and it will list all possible completions
[03:17] <sentry> what exactly is ppa? where is it located?
[03:17] <masen> copy/paste what is displays
[03:17] <mmoebius> elijah: Maybe the thing about "disabling journaling" under MacOsX is what you have to do to get it to work
[03:18] <Lxndr> Hello! Firefox is unable to communicate with my speakers. (I test this by going to youtube and playing a particular video). Said same video works perfectly fine in Chrome. What can I do to solve this?
[03:18] <masen> sentry: ppa is a personal package archive, unsupported software hosted on ubuntu launchpad
[03:18] <mmoebius> edbian: I'm thinking if you can't get some minimalistiv linux installed before you try that whopping big ubuntu
[03:18] <masen> sentry: you can add them by typing: sudo add-apt-repository <ppa url>
[03:18] <masen> then update your repo cache with: sudo apt-get update
[03:18] <edbian> mmoebius, Yeah I've been thinking bout that too.  But I want what I want. :)
[03:19] <sentry> so it is not on ubuntu
[03:19] <edbian> mmoebius, Good idea though.  I'll go grab arch or something.  That is like 100MB
[03:19] <sentry> it is a site
[03:19] <masen> it's not officially supported software
[03:19] <masen> its a repository
[03:19] <mmoebius> edbian: Maybe you just try a "notmal" intaller and not from the netbook edition.
[03:19] <masen> so it will show up in synaptic
[03:19] <Lxndr> Hello! Firefox is unable to communicate with my speakers. (I test this by going to youtube and playing a particular video). Said same video works perfectly fine in Chrome. What can I do to solve this?
[03:19] <edbian> mmoebius, I think the fact that the public keys were missing on a live CD was foreshadowing that the image wasn't complete for some reason
[03:19] <edbian> mmoebius, Yeah, that too.
[03:19] <masen> and function transparently with the software that comes with ubuntu
[03:19] <elijah> mmoebius: Now I am scared :)
[03:19] <mmoebius> edbian: I am sorry I have so little actual help to offer for you :-(
[03:19] <edbian> mmoebius, :)  Thanks for all the help!
[03:20] <bfsd> masen  yes  "truecrypt-7.0a-linux-x86.tar.gz" and  "truecrypt-7.0a-setup-x86"
[03:20] <mmoebius> elijah: why scared ?
[03:20] <KDC1956> will the ubuntu 10.10 have better wireless drives on it
[03:21] <bastid_raZor> KDC1956: ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:21] <mmoebius> elijah: oh, did you ever try 'mount -t hfsplus' ?
[03:21] <bfsd> masen now it worked.  Thank you
[03:21] <masen> bfsd: alright, type the s and press tab to complete the filename and see if it still gives you the not found error
[03:21] <masen> bfsd: great!
[03:21] <elijah> mmoebius: I was really hoping to be able to leave the drive as is so I could bring it back and forth between work
[03:21] <mmoebius> elijah: The Gentoo documentation is very "from the grounds up".  In ubuntu, generally kernels and modules will already be compiled and basically it
[03:21] <mmoebius> 's all ready to us for you
[03:22] <mmoebius> elijah: did you ever try 'mount -t hfsplus' ?
[03:23] <mmoebius> elijah: that is if you instruct mount with -t hfs to treat the drive as hfs, the mounting sure to fail (--> read only)
[03:23] <elijah> mmoebius: Just tried it and the command went well
[03:23] <elijah> mmoebius: When I try to access disk in Dolphin it gives error (after password)
[03:24] <elijah> mmoebius: I tried mount -t hfsplus
[03:24] <mmoebius> elijah: see on the command line first. Where did you mount it ?
[03:25] <st> and other question, can you trcommend me som e gui file manager, the lightr, the bertter?
[03:25] <mmoebius> elijah: you'll have to use a longer commend line, just like the longer ones above. with all the -o uid and /dev/sda1 /mnt/eli
[03:25] <elijah> mmoebius: I just typed mount -t hfsplus, nothing else, would it just use what is in fstab then?
[03:25] <hou5ton> Any suggestions for software to be on my linux laptop, and being able to manage a windows 7 system remotely?
[03:25] <Lxndr> Firefox is unable to communicate with my speakers. (I test this by going to youtube and playing a particular video). Said same video works perfectly fine in Chrome. What can I do to solve this? Or do I need to go somewhere else?
[03:26] <masen> Lxndr: click the speaker in your panel and select sound preferences
[03:26] <mmoebius> elijah: no, just -t <filesystem-type> is not enough    that's like saying "Buy a red' ... a red what ? Apple ? Car ? ...
[03:26] <masen> Lxndr: select the applications tab in the dialog and see if firefox is turned down or muted
[03:27] <mmoebius> elijah: the least is mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda1 if there is an fstab entry for /dev/sda1
[03:27] <elijah> mmoebius: Gotcha, I just tried the long way, uid= didn't take
[03:27] <wasnik> but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:27] <wasnik> installed netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:27] <elijah> mmoebius: sudo mount -t hfsplus -o uid=1000 /dev/sda1 /mnt/eli
[03:28] <mmoebius> elijah: did that go through smoothly ?
[03:28] <masen> hou5ton: rdesktop is included with ubuntu, to connect via RDP from your shell: rdesktop <hostname>
[03:28] <mmoebius> elijah: the command looks right
[03:28] <elijah> mmoebius: It mounted but owner is still 501
[03:28] <Lxndr> masen: Speaker in my panel? I'm not sure what you mean.
[03:28] <mmoebius> elijah: strange :-(
[03:28] <elijah> mmoebius: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/5878/
[03:29] <masen> Lxndr: i meant the speaker icon, but you may not have it. the same dialog can be summoned by going to System > Preferences > Sound
[03:29] <hou5ton> masen:  not to sound too much like a newbie (which i am) ... but will that access the computer in another state?
[03:29] <hou5ton> masen:  Not on a LAN
[03:29] <rallias> does anyone have the rubygems bundler deb file?
[03:30] <mintypu> hi to every one
[03:30] <masen> hou5ton: do you have a router giving out NAT IPs (192.168.x.y) or do you have a public IP?
[03:30] <Lxndr> masen: The only applications under System -> Preferences -> Sound are "Alsa plug-in (chrome)" and "Alsa plug in (seesmic desktop". Hmmm, this implies that perhaps I should get an alsa plugin for firefox? assuming one exists?
[03:30] <edbian> hou5ton, If you set up the network on both ends correctly.  rdesktop can. But it's slow over the internet.
[03:30] <wasnik> installed netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:30] <mmoebius> elijah: You  mean: "HFS+ tools for r/w in linux are now in the repositories. Marking as implemented." ?
[03:30] <elijah> mmoebius: yes
[03:30] <mattgyver>  I just booted the live cd on my new laptop to make sure it runs before I install it, I have no sound, is this normal for the live cd?
[03:30] <masen> I've found that RDP over internet is not so bad, better than VNC at any rate
[03:31] <edbian> mmoebius, I have a suse 11.3 iso laying around in here so I'll try that out.
[03:31] <xfreakk> omg I just realized Oracle VM has a Seamless mode <------- sooooo sexy lol
[03:31] <edbian> mmoebius, I haven't tried normal Ubuntu either
[03:31] <mintypu> I have two desktop running the same ubuntu os and I want to connect to the other remotely as if I was in another place can any one help me through this
[03:31] <elijah> mmoebius: That means it should work right?
[03:31] <hou5ton> masen edbian: the addresses are dynamically assigned.   Is there a product that you know of that would be fast enough to matter over the internet?
[03:31] <edbian> hou5ton, ssh  (which is cli only)
[03:31] <mmoebius> edbian: well, they _should_ all work :( But if it was for that, this IRC channel wouldn't exist
[03:32] <masen> I was going to suggest copssh for windows
[03:32] <masen> its an openssh distro for cygwin that is very easy to set up if you like the command line
[03:32] <mmoebius> elijah: same as for edbian: There should be a way to do it
[03:32] <edbian> hou5ton, It's not that the program is poorly written.  It's just that you're asking the program to stream 1024 x 768 (720p res) live in addition to all the mouse and keyboard and lower level stuff.  It is just a lot of info.
[03:32] <elijah> mmoebius: It just seems like if I can only have permission, it should work
[03:33] <masen> Lxndr: have you tried completely removing firefox and flash and reinstalling?
[03:33] <edbian> elijah, What are you trying to do?
[03:33] <masen> it could be a config issue
[03:33] <mmoebius> elijah: can you paste the output of 'mount' alone and of 'cat /proc/filesystems' ?
[03:33] <hou5ton> masen edbian: maybe I should be more specific too ... I need to help an elderly lady manage her computer and photos, etc. .... and she is a 6 hour drive one way ... so ...
[03:33] <Lxndr> masen: I have!
[03:34] <brophat> does ubuntu work with those amd quad chips?
[03:34] <masen> hou5ton: RDP is probably your best bet then and it's already part of windows
[03:34] <Lxndr> masen: I'm trying this (http://planet-geek.com/archives/2006/06/firefox-alsa-fl-1.html) right now.
[03:34] <edbian> hou5ton, Become a whiz at the term!  IF you can do it graphically you can do it with the terminal with almost 0 exceptions.  It just that some things (image editing comes to mind) are much much easier graphically
[03:34] <masen> Lxndr: good luck, that tutorial is pretty old
[03:34] <edbian> hou5ton, masen
[03:34] <mmoebius> elijah: at least as the root user you'd have access. Interesting to see is if the drive got mounted r/w or ro only
[03:35] <edbian> hou5ton, masen's suggestion was good too
[03:35] <hou5ton> thanks all
[03:35] <mmoebius> hou5ton: Does she have an internet access ?
[03:35] <elijah> mmoebius: Here are both - http://typr.in/k2yg
[03:35] <hou5ton> oh yes ... a broadband connection
[03:35] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  yes ... a broadband connection
[03:35] <mmoebius> elijah: That's the good one: "/dev/sda1 on /mnt/eli type hfsplus (rw,uid=1000)"
[03:36] <Lxndr> masen: I figure alsa-oss might be good to install, in any case. But thanks.
[03:36] <mmoebius> the drive is r/w and at least the mount command processed the uid option.
[03:36] <pyrophelia> is there a "safe" way to shut a system down that is currently doing a raid rebuild?  It takes ~4-5 days to resync this raid I don't want to loose my current progress
[03:36] <hou5ton> It is mediacom cable
[03:36] <elijah> mmoebius: Ahh! Nice!
[03:37] <mmoebius> elijah: /proc/filesystem says that hfsplus is asupportrd type, for the -t option of mount in theis case (was a 'backup' information for me)
[03:37] <elijah> mmoebius: If I do kdesudo dolphin and then navigate there and try to make a new folder it is still grayed out
[03:38] <WXZ> what's the url for the karmic repository?
[03:38] <mmoebius> elijah: can you give me the output of   'ls -ld /mnt/eli'    and    'ls -la /mnt/eli | head -n3'    ?
[03:38] <mmoebius> elijah: If there is no sensitive private information in it,. i mean
[03:39] <elijah> mmoebius: http://typr.in/j48u
[03:39] <Lxndr> masen: Well, so far no luck.
[03:40] <masen> Lxndr: hmm, and using chrome isn't a viable workaround?
[03:40] <masen> or you just want firefox to work
[03:41] <test34> why use chrome if you can use firefox
[03:41] <masen> cuz firefox doesn't have sound on Lxndr's system
[03:41] <mmoebius> hou5ton: She uses windows ? Then try ultravnc as the "server"
[03:41] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  yes ... windows 7
[03:42] <masen> do you know the edition? starter, home basic, home premium, ultimate?
[03:42] <mmoebius> elijah: that *is strange* There does uid 501 and group=dialout come from ?!?
[03:42] <mmoebius> elijah: You could do 'sudo -i'
[03:42] <elijah> mmoebius: That better be a rhetorical question :D
[03:43] <mmoebius> elijah: then 'cd /mnt/eli'
[03:43] <Lxndr> masen: It's viable, but not necessarily preferred.
[03:43] <mmoebius> elijah: then try 'mkdir testdir' or 'touch testfile'
[03:43] <mmoebius> elijah: then see with ls -l what it gets you
[03:43] <elijah> mmoebius: "root@gaia-one:/mnt/eli# mkdir test      >   mkdir: cannot create directory `test': Read-only file system
[03:44] <elijah> mmoebius: I am reading this now http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2346494#post2346494
[03:44] <masen> Lxndr: I've mucked my sound system on ubuntu before by playing with Jack, and I tried for about 6 hours to get pulse or alsa working again and it was totally fruitless
[03:44] <wasnik> installed netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:44] <wasnik> installed netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:44] <mmoebius> hou5ton: I wouldn't know if ultravnc runs on win7 as well as it does on xp, but it is quite good. I use it regularly on ~600 km with ~ 1Mbit lines.
[03:44] <masen> I backed up my home dir and packages and just reinstalled
[03:44] <masen> then it worked again
[03:44] <elijah> mmoebius: Ahh, that is old school info
[03:45] <mmoebius> elijah: I am out of clues :-(
[03:45] <masen> Lxndr: did it ever work?
[03:45] <elijah> I guess  I can make a forum post
[03:45] <elijah> mmoebius: I really appreciate all your effort!
[03:45] <Nautilus> i want to grep all files but don't what the wildcard is... thought it was * but no.
[03:45] <EddFace> hello
[03:45] <EddFace> is anyone online?
[03:46] <mmoebius> elijah: btw, between all the tests, did you a) ever unmount the drive in between and b) could you comment out any line in /etc/fstab just for testing ?
[03:46] <edbian> EddFace, we are online
[03:46] <mmoebius> elijah: I mean any line in /etc/fstab referring to /dev/sda1 or /mnt/eli
[03:46] <EddFace> Oh i have a quick question if you guys dont mind...
[03:46] <elijah> mmoebius: I did do "umount", I found out that unmount is not a valid command
[03:46] <masen> EddFace: that's why we're here
[03:46] <elijah> mmoebius: Sure, I can comment that out
[03:47] <EddFace> Is there a way to make an ubuntu .iso that i can use on a laptop from an already installed OS in my friends desktop?? thanks
[03:47] <masen> EddFace: if the OS is a windows variant, then yes! The main desktop iso should work for that
[03:47] <mmoebius> hou5ton: On the ubuntu side, "vinagre" is the best viewer i know
[03:48] <wasnik> installed netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:48] <elijah> mmoebius: When I umount it as root it says it's busy..... not that I know of?
[03:48] <mmoebius> elijah: then if the line in /etc/fstab is gone, try umounting and mounting the disk again.
[03:48] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  ok ... i'm lookign at ultravnc now ... looks like I can run it on linux and work on a windows 7 machine.
[03:48] <brophat> anyone know if ubuntu works on the amd quad core chips?
[03:48] <Nautilus> whats the file wildcard?  eg: on windows I could do: dir *.*
[03:48] <EddFace> what do you mean a windows variant? I want to install ubuntu on my laptop again but without having to order the CD again, and i was hoping to just like copy the desktops OS files over to my laptop
[03:48] <mmoebius> hou5ton: Is your current directory the mounteddirectory ?
[03:48] <edbian> brophat, It should
[03:48] <masen> EddFace: just make sure you pick the right architecture, if your laptop is 64bit, then get the 64 iso. If you have x86, then get x86. You know?
[03:48] <mmoebius> elijah: Is your current directory the mounteddirectory ?
[03:48] <elijah> mmoebius: negative
[03:48] <EddFace> yeah i got that theyre both 32bit
[03:49] <brophat> edbian i know it should, but the question is does it
[03:49] <jrib> Nautilus: what do you want to accomplish exactly?
[03:49] <edbian> brophat, :)  There's only 1 way to find out for sure!
[03:49] <mmoebius> elijah: try 'fuser /mnt/eli'
[03:49] <Nautilus> jrib: grep -d 'system/files' <in all files>
[03:49] <elijah> mmoebius: Outpit of that = "/mnt/eli/:            5577c"
[03:49] <brophat> edbian i am looking into buying a puter
[03:49] <wasnik> installed netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:49] <Nautilus> jrib: I want to find all occurences of that string
[03:49] <brophat> i don't currently have it
[03:49] <masen> EddFace: what do you mean copy the desktops OS files?
[03:49] <typemore> does ubuntu support a machien with 2 quad-core i7's ?
[03:49] <jrib> Nautilus: <in all files> as in everything in /?
[03:49] <mmoebius> elijah: that tells you whil process is using files in /mnt/eli    "using files" ==> fuser :-)
[03:50] <Nautilus> jrib yup
[03:50] <edbian> brophat, Take the live CD to the store?  Ha ha ha.  I think there is a website about what hardware is supported.
[03:50] <jrib> Nautilus: pass -r to grep and specify / as the path
[03:50] <elijah> mmoebius: gtk
[03:50] <mmoebius> elijah: that means process no. 5577 is using the drive
[03:50] <Nautilus> oh -r
[03:50] <elijah> mmoebius: What does 5577c mean then?
[03:50] <WXZ> what's the url for karmics repository?
[03:50] <elijah> mmoebius: Hmm
[03:50] <mmoebius> elijah: try ps ax | grep 5577  to see which process it is
[03:50] <edbian> brophat, The processor is not going to be your problem though. It's your wifi card, and video card, and sound card.  Those are the trouble makers.
[03:50] <edbian> brophat, The processors are all standardized.
[03:50] <mmoebius> elijah: 5577 should not have a "c" behind it
[03:51] <EddFace> Ok, so my laptop had ubuntu on it, then it crashed, so i attempted to reformat, but it wont get past an error boot screen, so so simplify it, I want ubuntu on my laptop, my friends computer has ubuntu on it, and I want to copy his ubuntu to my laptop.. if that makes sense
[03:51] <brophat> hmm ok thnks i will take a live cd to store
[03:51] <elijah> mmoebius: "5577 pts/2    S      0:00 -bash
[03:51] <elijah>  5660 pts/2    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto 5577
[03:51] <mmoebius> elijah: PID numbers are only plain numbers
[03:51] <elementzero> so i have a question that, though it applies to linux mint, is a general linux question -- i want to boot mint using the normal video drivers (vesa, or whatever) instead of nvidia's drivers
[03:51] <elementzero> since all i get is a black screen on boot
[03:51] <mmoebius> elijah: then your current shell (or any other shell) is in /mnt/eli directory
[03:51] <edbian> EddFace, What's special about his?
[03:51] <masen> EddFace: ohhh. all you have to do is download the .iso from ubuntu.com and then right click it and open with brasero to burn a new ubuntu installer
[03:52] <mmoebius> elijah: you could kill the shell ... btw, you still are in the 'sudo -i' , right  ?
[03:52] <elijah> mmoebius: I am retarded, yeah, it is me
[03:52] <Roasted> any tips on getting rid of this god forsaken video tearing that has plagued my ubuntu systems since I got hooked on it in 2006? Currently on an nvidia 9600GT. even with compiz off, it happens. vsync to blank is as useful as windows vista. Any other tips?
[03:52] <EddFace> Well yeah i was just wondering if there was a way to do it without having to download the iso, it takes me a really long time to download files and i need my laptop by tommorrow
[03:52] <EddFace> but if theres no way thats ok
[03:52] <mmoebius> elijah: Quit the 'sudo -i' ;-)
[03:53] <elijah> mmoebius: How do you quit sudo?
[03:53] <edbian> elijah, ctrl + c
[03:53] <mmoebius> elijah: 'logout' is the safest thing. Actually, you leave  the bash that got invoked by sudo :-)
[03:53] <masen> EddFace: there is probably a way, but it probably take longer to figure out that downloading the iso... does your friend not still have his ubuntu cd?
[03:53] <elijah> mmoebius: Worked!
[03:54] <elijah> mmoebius: K, I umounted fine
[03:54] <mmoebius> edbian: ctrl+d would be the thing, but that can fail if one is not at a new line
[03:54] <elijah> mmoebius: Now would I do mount -t hfsplus
[03:54] <mmoebius> edbian: so, logging out is rather ctrl-c ctrl-c ctrl-c  ctrl-c ctrl-d ... and that can still fail.
[03:54] <EddFace> No he doesnt anymore, he lost it a while back... but if there is a guide or something you guys can point me to that would be awesome
[03:54] <mmoebius> elijah: no, the long mount line
[03:54] <edbian> mmoebius, ahhh
[03:55] <edbian> mmoebius, Well I'm giving up on the netbook tonight.
[03:55] <mmoebius> elijah: mount -t hfsplus -o uid=1000 /dev/sda1 /mnt/eli
[03:55] <detrix> Hi all. How do I permanently mount a new hard drive?  What do I have to add to the /etc/fstab file?
[03:55] <edbian> mmoebius, I don't know what to think anymore!  suse, systemRescueCD, ubuntu minimum installer   all don't work :(
[03:55] <elijah> mmoebius: The command worked
[03:55] <masen> EddFace: i can't help you there, sorry. it would be difficult without live cds and a strong working knowledge of df, etc
[03:56] <elijah> mmoebius: How do I tell if it mounted in cli, not dolphin?
[03:56] <EddFace> well alright
[03:56] <EddFace> thanks anyways
[03:56] <mmoebius> elijah: then try ls -la /mnt/eli | head -n3 to see who "owns" the files this time
[03:56] <elementzero> can anyone help me change my video drivers from nvidia to vesa using a livecd?
[03:57] <elijah> mmoebius: still 501 and dialout
[03:57] <test34> elementzero, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:57] <elementzero> it doesn't exist :-/
[03:57] <mmoebius> edbian: It all depends on crazyness. If in a total pinch, go for gentoo. Putre manual installation
[03:57] <elementzero> and i made it anyway
[03:57] <elementzero> and it's still a black screen
[03:57] <elijah> mmoebius: mount still says r/w, uid=1000
[03:57] <test34> elementzero, you might need to mount the drive first
[03:57] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  it appears that things like GoToMyPC are downloaded on the computer I want to work on, and I connect through a third party access?
[03:58] <elijah> In addition, I cannot post a new thread on Ubuntu forums, my account is locked.
[03:58] <elementzero> this is on mint 9 xfce
[03:58] <mmoebius> elijah: there is something b0rked. seriously b0rked. I am out of clues
[03:58] <test34> elementzero, join #mint ?
[03:58] <elementzero> i'll try mounting the drive
[03:58] <elementzero> test34: they had no idea. and in anycase i'm downloading ubuntu right now :)
[03:59] <elijah> mmoebius: Okay, I will post in forums. I just realized I was trying to post in archived forum
[03:59] <mmoebius> hou5ton: there are serveral such "redirectors" the usual problem is that the people who need help are on a dialup, often behind a firewall or nat
[03:59] <wasnik> installed netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:59] <masen> well you can't expect to edit files on a drive that's not mounted. once you mount the drive it will be straightforward
[03:59] <elementzero> i probably shouldn't have installed the nvidia drivers in retrospect, seeing as that i have optimus drivers
[03:59] <elementzero> and afaik, optimus is not at all working with linux, yet
[03:59] <elijah> mmoebius: Gonna do that tomorrow night though, appreciate your help greatly!
[03:59] <mmoebius> elijah: Don't give up. It'll work some day. HPFSplus r/w is just a 6 month old "baby"
[03:59] <mmoebius> elijah: You're welcome :-)
[03:59] <test34> elementzero, the nvidia driver works fine with me
[04:00] <elementzero> with optimus?
[04:00] <mmoebius> hou5ton: What i have used sucessfully in ugly situations is "reverse connection" and the ultravnc single click exe
[04:00] <elijah> mmoebius: I believe! I want to write more than just "It's broke please help me fix it" in my forum thread so I will do that with a fresh head.
[04:00] <elementzero> right now i'm installing xubuntu over mint
[04:00] <test34> elementzero, I probably use the official one
[04:00] <elementzero> if that doesn't work, i'll try ubuntu and just replace gnome with xfce
[04:00] <test34> elementzero, it is only available as a binary
[04:00] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  yes ... I'm reading about ultravnc now
[04:01] <mmoebius> hou5ton: It all depends on the setup and the network (routers, firewalls etc) can you outline the exact setup from your pc to the lady's machine ?
[04:01] <blazer1980> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 and it is very slow to login... I see the wallpaper but it takes one minute to bring AWN and the panels
[04:01] <test34> elementzero, try xubuntu, it comes with xfce
[04:01] <elementzero> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-256.53-driver.html
[04:01] <elementzero> these?
[04:01] <masen> blazer1980: specs?
[04:01] <typemore> are xeon and i7's interchangebale for motherboard slots?
[04:02] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  On my end ... I would be going through a router and then a modem ... and on her end her system is connected directly to the mediacom modem
[04:02] <detrix> Hi all. How do I permanently mount a new hard drive?  What do I have to add to the /etc/fstab file?
[04:02] <masen> hou5ton: you are in a very good position then
[04:02] <mmoebius> hou5ton: then her machine has a publicly adressable ip. Hopefully she's got a personal firewall installed
[04:02] <brophat> the download at the ubuntu site is too long
[04:03] <masen> wouldn't the personal firewall ask to block/unblock when ultra first starts
[04:03] <blazer1980> masen: I am using linux version 2.6.32-24 generic
[04:03] <masen> blazer1980: system specs?
[04:03] <alazyworkaholic> I'm trying to download (streaming?) videos with firefox from the website "livestream.com" They're each over an hour long so I'd rather not have to wait to play each one then sift through /tmp once they've played. The "videodownloadhelper" extension is of no use & the video isn't in Tools - Page Info - Media either. Any ideas on how I can download this type of media?
[04:03] <mmoebius> hou5ton: In theory you can then  use ultravnc in the standard mode. The server, serving her screen to you is listening for connections. Use a secure password (use e.g. 'pwgen 15'
[04:03] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  masen:  not sure about the personal firewall ... I need to check that, but I am pretty sure she does ... and I know that mediacom has a dynamic ip, not a static one
[04:03] <mmoebius> )
[04:04] <masen> dynamic IP is easily addressed with something like dyndns.org
[04:04] <mmoebius> hou5ton: Then you'll want to install a dynamic dns service like (I just don't know better) dyndns
[04:04] <blazer1980> masen: Thinkpad X60s, 2GB memory, 100GB harddrive, /home, /boot on separate partition
[04:05] <mmoebius> hou5ton: and you' ll have to open her firewall for outside conenctions to ultravnc. Better choose a non-default poirt isf you can
[04:05] <alazyworkaholic> supposedly a windows program called replay media catcher would do it, but I only have Linux.
[04:05] <masen> blazer1980: was it previously fast, or has it always been slow since installation?
[04:05] <wasnik> installed netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[04:05] <brophat> isn't there a torrent site for it?
[04:05] <brophat> download says it will take one day and 6 hours to download
[04:05] <mmoebius> hou5ton: Then , you can connect with ultravnc e.g. to elderlady.dyndns.org::5966 and  there it goes
[04:05] <brophat> any faster ways?
[04:06] <elementzero> test34: figured out how to mount the filesystem and the xorg.conf was there. i was looking at my live cd.
[04:06] <elementzero> test34: anyways, i'm going to install xubuntu and see if the nvidia drivers work these
[04:06] <elementzero> *if they work there
[04:06] <mmoebius> hou5ton: A "nicer" solution would be if you installed an openvpn between you and her. Also for privacy's sake as ultravnc in itself is not encrypted
[04:06] <blazer1980> masen: It was very fast before but gradually started to get slower. There is also no sound when it logs in although login sound is enabled. Could it be the AWN?
[04:06] <masen> brophat: try a mirror closer to you - http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[04:07] <test34> elementzero, good luck, but they should
[04:07] <elementzero> thanks
[04:07] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  I could easily have something installed on her system
[04:07] <brophat> masen i am at that page but there is no 10.4 available there
[04:07] <DrupalJim> hey guys. having an issue installing phpmyadmin. i'm using apt-get install php myadmin and getting this back: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  phpmyadmin: Depends: php5-mcrypt but it is not installable E: Broken packages
[04:07] <mmoebius> hou5ton: Onb the other hand, if you have a static ip and can open a port on your and and happen to have a static ip, the "reverse" connection would be easier to do
[04:08] <masen> blazer1980: quite possibly, try disabling it on startup and see if you notice a difference
[04:08] <WXZ> what's the url for karmic koala's main repository?
[04:08] <masen> brophat: scroll down and find a mirror closer to you (near bottom on page) and click it, 10.4 will be listed on that page
[04:08] <brophat> okaha
[04:09] <mmoebius> hou5ton: Oh, and please inform her of the privavcy issues included. That if the ultravnc icon turns  green(?) then you are watching her screen
[04:09] <hou5ton> ok
[04:09] <blazer1980> masen: thanks so much, let me try that and I will be back
[04:09] <RealOpty> is it possible to program a button on my mouse to operate my music player rhythmbox
[04:09] <RealOpty> ?*
[04:09] <test34> RealOpty, yes
[04:10] <RealOpty> ok. where do i start?
[04:10] <mmoebius> hou5ton: do you have anything like a static ip or a dydndns service set up at your machine ?
[04:10] <hou5ton> I'm not sure
[04:10] <RealOpty> test34, maybe xorg.conf or something
[04:10] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  I'm not sure
[04:10] <RealOpty> maybe hotplug?
[04:10] <RealOpty> idk
[04:11] <mmoebius> hou5ton: If i think about it, I'd rather want to set up an openvpn if possible. That also eliminates the problems with finding the right ips :-)
[04:11] <Nautilus> I'm having a problem with 301 redirects and wonder where I can look that would do that to more than one vhost
[04:11] <masen> WXZ: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/
[04:11] <mmoebius> hou5ton: But pof yourse this adds another layer of complexety and possible breakage :-(
[04:11] <WXZ> thanks masen
[04:12] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  yes
[04:12] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  it's easy to see why GoToMyPC is so popular.  :-)
[04:12] <masen> WXZ: here's the default /etc/apt/sources.list file, http://ubuntu-for-humans.blogspot.com/2010/02/default-repositories-list-in-ubuntu-910.html
[04:12] <brophat> ok much better thanks masen bahahahahahaha
[04:12] <mmoebius> hou5ton: It also depends on the level of privacy needed. If she's reviewing e.g. an employers photographs or something nobody else should see ever, encryption is a must
[04:13] <WXZ> is it just a pattern?
[04:13] <brophat> 19 mins vs 1 day 6  hours bwahahahahahahaha
[04:13] <test34> RealOpty, can't find it right now but I know it's possible
[04:13] <WXZ> like deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted, deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main restricted, deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted etc.?
[04:13] <masen> WXZ: yes that's how it goes
[04:13] <masen> there's more info on the ubuntu wiki
[04:13] <mmoebius> hou5ton: The thing with GoToMyPC and (team..viewer(?)) is that the compyny in the middle can watch your screens, too
[04:13] <WXZ> well that's useful
[04:14] <RealOpty> test34, ok ill google it later. if u come across the info plz pm me.
[04:14] <DrupalJim> hey guys. having an issue installing phpmyadmin. i'm using apt-get install php myadmin and getting this back: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  phpmyadmin: Depends: php5-mcrypt but it is not installable E: Broken packages
[04:14] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  yes .... and I'm willing to learn here ... but for $15/month they take care of any problems ... just click and go
[04:15] <mmoebius> hou5ton: If you can setup your end properly (open pert etc) UltraVNC Single click is easiest, best controlled and almost sure-fire http://www.uvnc.com/addons/singleclick.html
[04:15] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  ok ... I'm bookmarking that and will learn to use it
[04:17] <elementzero> question: does it matter if i do a logical or a primary partition install?
[04:17] <mmoebius> hou5ton: You could setup the dyndns service for you and the nyou'll need a port forwarding in your router to get through to your pc. Also, ther the firewall (if any) has to be disabled for the "incoming port".
[04:18] <hhassey> how do i stop services like ssh, vsftpd, etc?
[04:18] <elementzero> i have one hdd, right now it has 3 partitions -- two for Windows (windows 7 made a 100mb partition for system files of some kind), one 30gb partition, and now ubuntu will need to make another two, one for the os and one for swap
[04:18] <mmoebius> hou5ton: You can setup the free http://www.dyndns.com service no matter what and always have the lady connect her screen to the right computer (yours) even if you hav e.g. t oswitch the ISP)
[04:19] <geoffmcc> clear
[04:20] <mmoebius> bye bye
[04:20] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  is that the sort of thing pro's use in managing multiple remote systems, or do they just buy software to do connect for them?
[04:20] <mmoebius_afk> hou5ton: I manage ca. 40 remote systems with ultravnc
[04:20] <hhassey> salel
[04:21] <mmoebius> hou5ton: so, "pro" is maybe not the right term for me but I am somewhat close :-)
[04:21] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  got it.  :-)
[04:21] <mmoebius> hou5ton: And there's nothing better than a free openvpn tunnel to customers/freiewnds etc.
[04:22] <mmoebius> hou5ton: so, you learn it once and then deploy it mayny times for free or ... well, you pay each and every time. "Tradeoff" is the word :-P
[04:22] <mmoebius> hou5ton: I assume u are from US ?
[04:23] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  yep ... central Missouri
[04:23] <CrazyTux> How do I remove a hard drive from having an MBR ?
[04:23] <mmoebius> hou5ton:Do you happen t know Linksys WRT54g routers ?
[04:23] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  I have a Linksys router ... not sure what model
[04:23] <frenchy> hhassey, service vsftpd stop i think
[04:23] <CrazyTux> I had ubuntu on Drive A, purchased Drive B .... put in Drive B as primary, Drive A is now secondary... but Drive A still has MBR so it thinks I have two OS'
[04:24] <mmoebius> hou5ton: Cisco Management (in the US) still dosn't understand why the WRT54g became a big hit in European markets. Because it's open and peopla cann roll their own software.
[04:24] <frenchy> CrazyTux, did you install an OS on drive B
[04:26] <ivanchuk> hello. any howtos to help set up a development environment in an intranet - like one that integrates a version control system like svn, mantis (or any other bug tracking system), commits to svn tracked against the bug tracking system, etc as well as some sort of project management and reporting stuff?
[04:26] <mmoebius> hou5ton: It's a philosophy thing. And e.g. cisco doesn't understand (much) why the free stuff is cool. And it even pays off because with the free router you can run e.g. openvpn instead of having to license a "preofessional" Office Router with VPN from cisco. Saving costs, licenses and everything
[04:27] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  sounds good ... I prefer opensource aps when practical
[04:27] <mmoebius> CrazyTux: Nom, yaour computer just boots from the 2nd drive
[04:27] <roygbiv> ivanchuk that's a tall order
[04:28] <roygbiv> ivanchuk have a look at trac, and fossil. i'm not sure those have 100% of what you're looking for but they are each nicely integrated projects
[04:28] <mmoebius> hou5ton: if you want to run linux on a router, check out e.g. http://www.freewrt.org/ or (if bigger) the stuff from http://www.routerboard.com/
[04:28] <ivanchuk> roygbiv: heh, i know. we are a small group in a small office, but we use all those tools, but they are not integrated. atleast tehre's no project management part. just use svn and bugzilla. something that is more compact would be great.
[04:28] <CrazyTux> frenchy: yea ubuntu is on Drive B
[04:28] <ivanchuk> roygbiv: will, thanks.
[04:28] <CrazyTux> frenchy: I installed it on my new SSD drive
[04:29] <roygbiv> fossil is really something IMO
[04:29] <ivanchuk> let me check
[04:29] <roygbiv> but it has no integrated project management tools, beyond a built in wiki
[04:29] <frenchy> CrazyTux, so what purpose is the old drive serving?
[04:29] <CrazyTux> frenchy: backup drive
[04:29] <roygbiv> fossil-scm.org
[04:29] <hhassey> I have tried sudo stop vsftpd
[04:29] <hhassey> and works
[04:29] <CrazyTux> frenchy: I want it completely empty, and I already formated it... but it is still holding onto the MBR?
[04:29] <CrazyTux> for some reason
[04:29] <hhassey> but will it be enabled on next boot in?
[04:29] <ivanchuk> roygbiv: yeah, looking at that already. gforge was good too, but never got to play with their enterprise version.
[04:29] <CrazyTux> s/want/ it is /
[04:30] <frenchy> CrazyEddy, did you format it after you install ubuntu on the new drive?
[04:31] <CrazyTux> frenchy: yes
[04:31] <Nautilus> i have a 301 redirect happening and I can't figure out why, is someone around that would help me debug?
[04:31] <mmoebius> CrazyTux: How did you "format" the drive ?
[04:32] <frenchy> CrazyEddy, theres prolly just a grub entry still there, i doubt it still has any MBR info, just delete the grub entry
[04:32] <mmoebius> Nautilus: What url ?
[04:32] <Nautilus> mmoebius: its local
[04:32] <typemore> if you're using a solid state drive; what partations should be in solid sate?
[04:33] <mmoebius> Nautilus: so, local like "intranet" or liike "file" ?
[04:33] <CrazyTux> mmoebius: I used the ubuntu disk utility
[04:33] <CrazyTux> mmoebius: gtk stuff
[04:33] <kuku_> Hi
[04:33] <frenchy> CrazyTux, did you create a new file system on it?
[04:33] <CrazyTux> frenchy: yes ext4
[04:33] <kuku_> Have anyone tried to use Ubuntu one Cloud?
[04:34] <frenchy> CrazyTux, just delete the grub entry for it
[04:34] <Nautilus> mmoebius: hrm, its a ubuntu PC for web dev, using vhosts for each site then an entry in hosts to see the assigned domain name.
[04:34] <mmoebius> CrazyTux: sorry, don't know that. I am lurkiong around on lower levels usuallly :-(
[04:34] <CrazyTux> frenchy: for some reason it is also /dev/sda still?
[04:34] <CrazyTux> frenchy: shouldnt it be /dev/sdc being the 3rd?
[04:34] <kuku_> I signed up in the web but I cannot get it connected to my box
[04:34] <frenchy> CrazyTux, what do you mean
[04:34] <CrazyTux> frenchy: this old drive is in my 3rd SATA spot
[04:34] <WXZ> E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[04:35] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Ok,then you hget the 301 from one of the web servers you queried, most likely. Waht server is running and do you have log/debug opoutput from that server ?
[04:35] <frenchy> CrazyTux, what is the new hd listed as?
[04:35] <CrazyTux> frenchy: sdb, and sdc (I bought two of them) the Ubuntu OS is on sdb
[04:35] <CrazyTux> frenchy: but physically it is in the SATA port 1 for sdb so shouldnt it be SDA?
[04:35] <Inazad> I have downloaded the eclipse for C++ from the software' prog, when I try a simple Hello World project, I get the "Launch failed. Binary not found"
[04:35] <Inazad> why ?
[04:36] <Nautilus> server? apache2.  I made about 10 of these before, then I made one where I was experimenting with redirection within a subfolder, now any site I create does the redirect even to the base url.
[04:36] <NOMADICUS> I have just installed ArtistX.  It has a great look to it, unfortunatly the astetics cause visiual imparement for me when I use Firefox.  How can I change the color scheme in Firefox?
[04:36] <mmoebius> frenchy: CrazyTux:  Do you maybe have an empty disk but only two entries in grub ?  try 'update-grub', then reboot
[04:36] <frenchy> CrazyTux, im not sure how dev ids get chosen, but if the old drive was there before it probably just didnt change, if you really created a new filesystem on i doubt there is any MBR info and it should be safe just to remove the grub entry for it
[04:37] <at05gt> is there a program that will allow me to import playlists from itunes on my windows partition?
[04:37] <CrazyTux> frenchy: yea there is definitely nothing on the old drive
[04:37] <CrazyTux> frenchy: its been formated several times in attempt to get rid of the MBR entry.
[04:37] <Nautilus> mmoebius: Oops i responded above, without your nick
[04:38] <mmoebius> Nautilus: can you please .... nick ... ok... got it
[04:38] <CrazyTux> frenchy: where is the physical file to update?  I dont see anything in /boot/grub/grub.conf or /etc/default/grub
[04:38] <frenchy> CrazyTux, its probably just a grub entry that was left, you could try reinstalling grub
[04:38] <CrazyTux> frenchy: here let me reboot, will only take 1 minute
[04:38] <roygbiv> at05gt aren't itunes playlists in a standard format? you can probably just copy the playlist files straight to your ubuntu partition
[04:38] <frenchy> CrazyTux, you might have to do some research
[04:38] <at05gt> m3u or pls most likely ya?
[04:38] <mmoebius> Nautilus: If you (temporarily) remove all redirect statements from the server's config. does it still throw a 301 ?
[04:38] <roygbiv> i believe so yes
[04:39] <mmoebius> Nautilus: you should take a look at the server's access log (waht the server thinks what you asked ist for)
[04:39] <Nautilus> i have gotten rid of the redirect test I did.  I have even grepped for the string, not in /etc anywhere
[04:39] <Nautilus> mmoebius: I just see the rewritten url in the log
[04:39] <kristiina> hi. could somebody tell me how to bring back system menu on the menu in ubontu 10.04 netbook?
[04:39] <mmoebius> Nautilus: And then you should make a hard guess as to which parts of your config fit that request and which don't
[04:39] <kristiina> i deleted it in menu editor
[04:39] <CrazyTux> frenchy: ok im back
[04:39] <at05gt> roygbiv: ill take a look thanks, im not usin rhythmbox cause it doesnt have an EQ built in, so im using exaile it it messes up my ID3 tags
[04:40] <frenchy> CrazyTux, are you on 10.04?
[04:40] <CrazyTux> frenchy: yes
[04:40] <mmoebius> Nautilus: User wireshark to get the url the server has been asked for
[04:40] <Nautilus> wget show it to me
[04:40] <frenchy> CrazyEddy, it uses grub 2 and its more complicated than grub 1 you might need to do some research
[04:41] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Is thera a redirect possible in a .htaccess file (I'm not sure if that's possible)
[04:41] <mmoebius> ?
[04:41] <kristiina> how to edit menu when menu editor is no longer on the screen?
[04:41] <Nautilus> mmoebius: yea, thats where I was doing it, but that folder is gone now. Hold on, making a paste of the wget
[04:41] <CrazyTux> frenchy: http://cryy.com/images/MBR-Screenshot.png
[04:42] <mmoebius> Nautilus: attach a part of the log file too, please
[04:42] <ivanchuk> that's a massive monitor, CrazyEddy
[04:42] <ivanchuk> erl CrazyTux
[04:42] <CrazyTux> ivanchuk: dual 24"
[04:42] <ivanchuk> CrazyTux: and i am looking at it on a 15" :)
[04:43] <CrazyTux> ;o)
[04:43] <Nautilus> mmoebius: heres the wget: http://pastebin.com/4hYTYpP6
[04:43] <frenchy> CrazyTux, what is this supposed to show me?
[04:44] <ivanchuk> that he has 26GB swap!
[04:44] <CrazyTux> frenchy: http://cryy.com/images/MBR-Screenshot2.png
[04:44] <CrazyTux> frenchy: this is the view of the other drive
[04:44] <CrazyTux> frenchy: see how they both say Partitiong: Master Boot Record?
[04:44] <mmoebius> Nautilus: i guess system/files/private/hydroplanepurple/htdocs or parts of it are not in the config, nowhere ?
[04:45] <Inazad> I have downloaded the eclipse for C++ from the software' prog, when I try a simple Hello World project, I get the "Launch failed. Binary not found"
[04:45] <at05gt> roygbiv: only thing ive found off my windows partition is the XML file for my entire library
[04:45] <roygbiv> is that still xml? i thought apple switched to sqlite for that
[04:45] <frenchy> CrazyEddy, my external HD says that. i would assume all HDs say that, when you boot up does it ask you to choose an alternate OS?
[04:45] <mmoebius> Inazad: did the project compile ?
[04:46] <Inazad> hmm how to know ?
[04:46] <Inazad> I'm new to Eclipse
[04:46] <Nautilus> mmoebius: the vhost has DocumentRoot /home/myname/sites/hydroplanepurple/htdocs
[04:46] <CrazyTux> frenchy: yes... it does until I edited /etc/default/grub (to ONLY pick the 1st one automatically)
[04:46] <CrazyTux> frenchy: and not show me that screen
[04:46] <at05gt> roygbiv: im trying to open it with open office gimme a sec
[04:46] <mmoebius> Inazad: try Ctrl-B
[04:46] <HomeBoy> can someone help with this registration process?
[04:46] <kristiina> could somebody help? i removed system icon from the main menu and now i can't edit icons on the menu? how to bring it back or how to run main menu?
[04:46] <frenchy> CrazyTux, im pretty sure there is not bootloader installed on that drive just a leftover grub entry
[04:46] <Inazad> mmoebius, I have an error like : "make: ***[src/Hello world.o] Error 127
[04:47] <CrazyTux> frenchy: so I just need to read up on Grub2 and remove it
[04:47] <WXZ> I somehow destroyed my sources.list file
[04:47] <CrazyTux> I assume
[04:47] <WXZ> how do I fix it?
[04:47] <at05gt> roygbiv: oh screw that crap, its a full parse of the entire library in code
[04:47] <mmoebius> Inazad: Then your c-code ist wrong. fix it, recompile and when that finishes without error, run the program
[04:47] <at05gt> no way ill get playlist data off that
[04:47] <PyjamaSpank> my start-up and close-down screen seem to have the wrong resolution, any ideas how to make it look good? It's a 1680x1050 and it works when I use Ubuntu on another PC, same monitor
[04:47] <Inazad> I think it doesn't found g++
[04:47] <frenchy> CrazyTux, if it bothers you that much then yeah, i dont know why they changed grub so much, there are a lot more files now
[04:48] <Inazad> bin/sh: g++: not found
[04:48] <at05gt> does anybody know where itunes saves its playlist files on a windows partition?
[04:48] <CrazyTux> frenchy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Removing%20Entries%20from%20Grub%202 found it
[04:48] <CrazyTux> frenchy: so looks like your right, just stupid entries.
[04:49] <mmoebius> Nautilus: can you please grep like            'grep -inr "system/files/private" /path/to/apache/config/directory'
[04:49] <CrazyTux> frenchy: well the reason it originally bothered me until I found the "skip it fix" is because my keyboard I use does not respond @ Bios or at Grub selection
[04:49] <CrazyTux> frenchy: so I would have to sit there and wait.
[04:49] <kristiina> how to run main menu editor from terminal?
[04:50] <Nautilus> mmoebius: thats in /etc, right?
[04:50] <frenchy> CrazyTux, from what youre telling me thats what it sounds like, creating a new FS on a drive should wipe everything out
[04:51] <Inazad> mmoebius, see the error ?
[04:51] <frenchy> CrazyTux, i recently looked into editing grub entries in Grub2 and it gave me a headache
[04:51] <Nautilus>  /etc
[04:51] <CrazyTux> frenchy: haha
[04:51] <mmoebius> Nautilus: the folder where your apache config resides. How in all heavens do you configure your apache ?
[04:51] <roygbiv> kristiina, gconf-editor
[04:51] <Nautilus> well i do it in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[04:51] <mmoebius> Inazad: You mean "error 127" ?
[04:52] <Inazad> mmoebius, I think it doesn't find the g++
[04:52] <frenchy> CrazyTux, im sure they had reasons for the drastic changes but i dont like them!
[04:52] <Nautilus> mmoebius: but those are just my vhosts
[04:52] <kristiina> roygbiv: and then what should i do? i want to enable system icon on the main menu so i can edit icon on the menu?
[04:52] <Nautilus> mmoebius: the string is not found within /etc (using -inr)
[04:53] <CrazyTux> frenchy: yea ;o)
[04:53] <frenchy> CrazyTux, i think they changed the way it sees devices too, like grub 1 would be hd0,0 for sda1 but grub2 it would be hd0,1
[04:53] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Before any debugging can take place, you must know where the config of the running apache process comes from. If it's ... was that a vhost or vservers ?
[04:53] <at05gt> roygbiv: ya man all i found was the XML file no M3U or PLS's, im at a lose here cause ive got some nice PL's i made on itunes and i really dont wanna load up my windows partition cause it takes like 20 minutes to log into it
[04:54] <at05gt> Vista Blows, that is all.
[04:54] <mmoebius> Inazad: you have ubuntu 10.04 ?
[04:54] <Inazad> yes
[04:54] <Nautilus> mmoebius: I have a set of files in /etc/apache2/sites-available that use <VirtualHost *:80> and a few directives, not sure of the exact terminology, just know I copy them and change the DocumentRoot and ServerName
[04:54] <mmoebius> Inazad: try 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[04:55] <xbonesx> Hi, I recenetly installed ubuntu 9.04 and selected it to be installed on a second partition. I then decided that I didn't want it on its own partition and rather installed inside my current os(win7). Now i get a grub 22 error on boot, and can't access win7. I tried to run the dvd for win7 using the recovery tools but it tells me that i don't have an OS isntalled. Can anyone assist me with this please? Thanks in advance.
[04:55] <at05gt> you should never install linux and windows on the same partition
[04:55] <Inazad> mmoebius, already done
[04:55] <at05gt> there like 2 dogs circling each other in a park
[04:55] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Oh, so you haven't made up the system ? Then you will have a hard time :-(
[04:55] <Inazad> mmoebius, I get the same error
[04:55] <Nautilus> made up the system??
[04:56] <Inazad> don't understand damn
[04:56] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: What did you do exactly?
[04:56] <mmoebius> Nautilus: made up the system for copy-and pasting vhosts :-) Well, you'll have to understand the configuration or you cannot debug it. The abpache library is big and comprehensive
[04:56] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: PM please?
[04:57] <mmoebius> Inazad: what does 'which g++' give you ?
[04:57] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: Why?
[04:57] <glassresistor> xbonesx: you've busted youve box sorry
[04:57] <Inazad> usr/bin/g++
[04:57] <Nautilus> mmoebius: whats to make up re: copying a file?
[04:57] <at05gt> xbonesx: never install 2 OS on the same partition, they fight it out and one will lose
[04:57] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: so i dont have to deal with others comments ^^^
[04:58] <Nautilus> mmoebius: the system/files/private string is NOT in my setup
[04:58] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: yeah ok since, people here are  making silly comments and such
[04:58] <Inazad> the folder where I extract eclipse is on the desktop
[04:58] <at05gt> sebsebseb: how was my comment sil.......... nevermind
[04:58] <xbonesx> at05gt: Ubuntu has an option to be installed within windows and its given a boot option on startup.
[04:58] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: plus I know partition stuff well :)
[04:58] <sebsebseb> at05gt: not so much yours, but someone else
[04:58] <mmoebius> Nautilus: that is strange because apache seems to pull it from somewhere.
[04:58] <xbonesx> but i didn't take that route
[04:58] <at05gt> xbonesx: its still not wise to install 2 OS on the SAME partition
[04:58] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Did apache get srestarted recently ?
[04:59] <sebsebseb> at05gt: thats not even possible I guess
[04:59] <xbonesx> originally i didnt that is why im having this issue
[04:59] <sebsebseb> at05gt: since one will wipe over the other?
[04:59] <Nautilus> mmoebius: exactly! Thats my problem. It's like its cached
[04:59] <sebsebseb> at05gt: unless its Wubi of course
[04:59] <Nautilus> mmoebius: I've restarted it many times over a few days trying to figure this out
[04:59] <Nautilus> reboots too
[04:59] <at05gt> sebsebseb: they either wipe over each other or youll get massive errors as they overwrite each others system files
[04:59] <xbonesx> I installed on a second partition and then deleted it, and now grub gives error 22.
[04:59] <mmoebius> Inazad: 'which' gave you the location for g++ that means it is installed and in the path, so g++ can be found and is useable. I am sorry but don't know what the error could be
[05:00] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: installed what on a second partition Ubuntu?
[05:00] <Nautilus> mmoebius: any new VirtualHost I make has this problem.  The ones I made before I experimented with Rewrite in an .htaccess file still work properly
[05:00] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: Yes
[05:00] <at05gt> xbonesx: your most likely going to have to repair or reinstall both OS, on separate partitions
[05:00] <HomeBoy> where is the "server box" im supposed to type in for registration?
[05:00] <xbonesx> at05gt: Win7 is still active and i can access it if i boot hirens bootcd
[05:00] <mmoebius> Nautilus: then start it with a no-vhost config file that uses a different document root for testing purposes. Ther you put nothing. Get a 404 error to test :-)
[05:00] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: ok was Ubuntu on there before at all?
[05:01] <xbonesx> and hirens gives me an option to boot win7
[05:01] <Inazad> damn
[05:01] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: and whats this boot cd?
[05:01] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: on win7 partition, no. on a second partition i created yes.
[05:01] <at05gt> xbonesx: ya i dont know about win 7, what does it do when you try to boot win 7? and what os are you inside right now?
[05:01] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: ok why were you putting it on again?
[05:01] <Nautilus> mmoebius: not completely sure what you mean.
[05:01] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: and no you can't just put it on a Windows 7 partition, whilst keeping it there
[05:02] <xbonesx> at05gt: I'm on live cd at the moment.
[05:02] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Are the virtualhost's matched ? e.g. is it the right virtualhost that gest executed ? Is it http or do you try https ?
[05:02] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: plus Ubuntu isn't even meant to be instaled onto Windows file systems
[05:02] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: ok live cd perfect
[05:02] <at05gt> xbonesx: does 7 boot at all?
[05:02] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: show us gparted
[05:02] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: system > administration > partitition editor
[05:02] <sebsebseb> !screenshot  | xbonesx
[05:02] <CrazyTux> frenchy: thanks for the help by the way!
[05:02] <xbonesx> ok scratch what i want to do once i get win7 working again, i just need to figure out how to edit the grub so it will se my win7 OS
[05:02] <CrazyTux> good night all.
[05:03] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: Windows 7   might be gone or something, lets find out, show the partitions :)
[05:03] <xbonesx> I cant take a screen shot of the boot screen...
[05:03] <hanasaki> any package read epub? mobi?
[05:03] <xbonesx> one sec
[05:03] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: you can of gparted on a live cd?
[05:03] <Nautilus> mmoebius: should be right virtualhost, pretty simple setup.  I dont use http:// or https:// in the ServName, if thats what you mean.  Just dev.example.com.   Oh and FWIW 'localhost' in the browser works right ("It Works!")
[05:03] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: I thought I read that you were on t he live cd?
[05:03] <uLinux> :)
[05:03] <xbonesx> gparted, ok one sec
[05:03] <at05gt> xbonesx: if anyboy can help you solve this problem its the super nerds in this channel
[05:03] <sebsebseb> at05gt: I don't know about you, but I done loads of partition stuff and with other people
[05:04] <uLinux> sory offtopic but super nerds it's the first time i hear
[05:04] <mmoebius> Nautilus: stop apache. become root and run it by hand: apache2 -f /a/simple/config/file and then you have something to test
[05:04] <at05gt> sebsebseb: ya im not that knowledgable, i do know that installing 2 os on the same partition is bad mojo :)
[05:05] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: how do i start gpart UI
[05:05] <thecdggseries> hey wich is the ubuntu channel???
[05:05] <sebsebseb> xbonesx:  so on the Live CD
[05:05] <mmoebius> Nautilus: You know that if e.g. you use https://, you cannot use virtualhosts anymore because of the certificates ?
[05:05] <xbonesx> cant find it ans syntac says its installed
[05:05] <Nautilus> mmoebius: what goes in the config file?
[05:05] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: in the live session.  system > administration > partition editor
[05:05] <thecdggseries> sorry the spanish
[05:05] <avg_guy> what app should I use to do a mass file rename in ubuntu 10.04?
[05:05] <at05gt> sebseseb: i went a step further then just parts and installed Ub on a separate drive lol
[05:05] <Nautilus> i dont use https://.
[05:05] <uLinux> !es > thecdggseries
[05:05] <chrowe> is there a way to "select best server" from a minimal install?
[05:06] <chrowe> avg_guy: command line or desktop?
[05:07] <avg_guy> desktop would be more like it but if c/l is better i take it
[05:07] <Nautilus> mmoebius: How to stop apache?  "apache2 -k stop" tells me "bad user name..."
[05:07] <Kendalja> howdy
[05:07] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: found it?
[05:07] <Kendalja> What is a good music player
[05:07] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: http://i52.tinypic.com/8wwfq1.png
[05:07] <Kendalja> to use
[05:07] <sebsebseb> Kendalja: Rythombox which is default, or Banshee
[05:08] <teege> Banshee
[05:08] <mmoebius> Nautilus: how about 'sudo service httpd stop' ?
[05:08] <xbonesx> the 20gb used to be the ubuntu partiton but i delted it
[05:08] <sebsebseb> and yeah Amarok even for those that don't mind installing KDE stuff, I guess
[05:08] <chrowe> avg_guy: I have used the rename command explained here http://tips.webdesign10.com/how-to-bulk-rename-files-in-linux-in-the-terminal but not the GUI packages
[05:08] <mmoebius> Nautilus: I don't run apache on ubunt, so i miss out some ubuntu specicific details
[05:09] <Nautilus> mmoebius: service: command not found
[05:09] <frenchy> Nautilus, have you tried service apache stop
[05:09] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: and like i said i can boot win7 if i boot my hirens bootusb device and select an option from it that says something about loading win7.
[05:09] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: ok no Ubuntu on there at all, only Windows partitions
[05:09] <mmoebius> Nautilus: what os ?
[05:09] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: and yes without
[05:09] <avi_> Hey guys, I'm currently developing an app in PyGTK, and I think somehow my code using pynotify messed up my OSD notify. I used pynotify to send many OSD notify messages, but I think there's some sort of bug in OSD-Notify. I already tried killall osd-notify.. what else can I do
[05:09] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: correct
[05:10] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: an Ubuntu partition you won't have the /boot where Grub is installed
[05:10] <Nautilus> mmoebius: erm, Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
[05:10] <avg_guy> on another after a right click write to disk it never ejects the disk I have to do it manually is there a reason for this
[05:10] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: except for the tiny bit of Grub that goes on your MBR Master Boot Record, and so yes Windows won't boot up either
[05:10] <kristiina> now to enable system icon from main menu in gconf-editor in ubuntu 10.04 netbook ed?
[05:10] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: i need to edit the MBR
[05:10] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: not quite
[05:10] <mmoebius> Nautilus: oh, ubuntu "stale" :-P   Nevermind ;-) That's fine with me
[05:10] <xbonesx> sebsebseb:?
[05:10] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: if you re install Ubuntu, the MBR will be sorted out
[05:11] <MIH1406> In the first installation of Ubuntu the USpash has a good resolution. But after updating the resolution changed and became larger. How can I change the USplash resolution?
[05:11] <mmoebius> Nautilus: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/httpd stop'
[05:11] <Nautilus> mmoebius: yea an upgrade fubar'd it so I went back
[05:11] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: figured that but i dont want linux on a seperate partition
[05:11] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: why not?
[05:11] <mmoebius> Nautilus: or 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop' ... or something like that.
[05:11] <Nautilus> mmoebius: yea that was it (the second one)
[05:11] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: cuz there is an option to create it inside windows and i have used that before, but today i decide to test out the operating speed if installed via seperate partition.
[05:11] <Nautilus> mmoebius: now i need to become root?
[05:12] <Nautilus> (how?)
[05:12] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: yes there is Wubi, but a proper partitiond install is much better in the long run
[05:12] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: plus think about it, what if Windows messes up enough? well so will Ubuntu
[05:12] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: Ya that's what a couple websites said thats why i tried it
[05:12] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: if you use Wubi
[05:12] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: and then you removed it why?
[05:13] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: Because the change to the MBR made it to where ubuntu was default loaded if not present at boot and i want it to be win7
[05:13] <Nautilus> mmoebius:  "become: command not found"   (chuckle... just dont know how)
[05:13] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: ok that was a bit of a silly reason to remove it, because you can change it so Windows is the default boot
[05:13] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: im not to familiar with linux, i paniced
[05:14] <chrowe> Nautilus: you should be able to run 'sudo su'
[05:14] <Nautilus> chrowe: got it, thanks
[05:14] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: so i can reisntalled the ubuntu on that second partition then edit the MBR?
[05:14] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: so that win7 is default?
[05:14] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: you edit Grub 2, when it is re installed, if you want Windows to be default boot
[05:15] <Nautilus> mmoebius: now I need a simple config file which you believe suits the need
[05:15] <smanning192> hey guys, has anyone upgraded to the beta of the newest version?
[05:15] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: from what i read on the net, ubuntu 9.04 runs grub one and is updated to grub2 without acknowledgement...
[05:15] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: as for how to do that, I can no probelm with the old version, not so sure about Grub 2,  theres a good page on the Ubuntu website about it, plus people can help from the channel anyway if neassery
[05:15] <myk_robinson> getting an error  sudo timestamp too far in the future. Have tried a few things i found online, but the problem comes back after reboot
[05:16] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: so do you know how to mess with grub1?
[05:16] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: right, but not much point putting 9.04 on now, even though  its a pretty good release, it is on the verge of not being supported anymore
[05:16] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: has until the end of next month when it comes to support and thats it
[05:16] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: ya i know, 10.?? something is out right?
[05:17] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: yep 10.04 is the current latest thats also Long Term Support
[05:17] <sebsebseb> !lts | xbonesx
[05:17] <xbonesx> !lts
[05:17] <Nautilus> and 8.04
[05:17] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: and 10.10 is on the verge of coming out,  that will be Sunday October 10th,  doesn't offer that much advantage over 10.04 though when it comes to the desktop version, from what I have seen, but might be worth the upgrade, when its time
[05:17] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: ok i will download it but for now i need to get that MBR fixed so i can boot win7
[05:18] <Nautilus> mmoebius: did I lose ya?  :(
[05:18] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: uhmm got another computer?
[05:18] <mmoebius> Nautilus: no
[05:18] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: yes
[05:18] <mmoebius> Nautilus: hang on a second.
[05:18] <Inazad> someone here know how to install eclipse for C++ and its working ?
[05:18] <Nautilus> mmoebius: np!  thanks :)
[05:18] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: after you hve re installed Ubuntu, Windows 7 will boot as well
[05:18] <mmoebius> Nautilus: I'm workin on the minimum thet still works
[05:19] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: correct but then i need to set it up so that win7 is default load if not present
[05:19] <Nautilus> mmoebius: ah, sweet
[05:19] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | xbonesx
[05:19] <mmoebius> Nautilus: you could prepare an empty directory
[05:19] <smanning192> xbonesx couldn't you edit the GRUB file?
[05:19] <Nautilus> ok
[05:19] <at05gt> sebsebseb: when 10.10 comes out can you upgrade 10.04 to it or do you have to install the new version?
[05:19] <sebsebseb> at05gt: 10.04 will be set up by default to only upgrade to an LTS, but it can be changed to do standard versions
[05:19] <xbonesx> smanning192: idk can i?
[05:20] <at05gt> sebsebseb: LTS?
[05:20] <sebsebseb> !lts | at05gt
[05:20] <sebsebseb> at05gt: where as stanard versions such as what 10.10 will be,  are only supported 18 months
[05:20] <xbonesx> brb going to review that link....
[05:20] <ZykoticK9_> sebsebseb, I love the volume/rhythmbox integration in 10.10</+1>
[05:20] <smanning192> xbonesx: um... run command, sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.conf
[05:21] <xbonesx> smanning192: ok one sec
[05:21] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9_: not tried it yet for real, when I put the RC on I will,  only done  vm testing so far of 10.10, and yeah no  music in my vm.  and  tried to get Unity to load on two computers from netbook CD, with no luck though as expected since the hardware
[05:21] <white_magic> hey, so ubuntu told me it wants to do a partial distribution upgrade (i have 10.10 beta right now) and it's been at the 'preparing to upgrade' stage for about 10 minutes, seemingly doing nothing. At the botton is says 'fetching is complete'..
[05:21] <at05gt> sebsebseb: so lucid will be upgradable to the next LTS version whenever its released
[05:21] <white_magic> i'd appreciate any input on this
[05:21] <ZykoticK9_> sebsebseb, i haven't had much luck testing unity in VMs either :(
[05:22] <white_magic> wait.. it's at an error msg now, never mind
[05:22] <sebsebseb> at05gt: by default it is set to only upgrade to 12.04 (April 2012 release)  or maybe thats 12.04.1 when it actasully would
[05:22] <sebsebseb> at05gt: however it can be changed so that it will show 10.10 as an upgrade
[05:22] <xbonesx> smanning192: I'm on live right now so its blank but after i do the install I will try again
[05:22] <sebsebseb> at05gt: and then that can be upgraded to
[05:22] <sebsebseb> xbonesx:  your partiton is a bit small for Ubuntu in a way
[05:22] <at05gt> sebsebseb: ill stick with what i just installed 2 days ago for now LOL
[05:23] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: or  well no its fine, as long as you don't start storing a load of big data in your Ubuntu partition
[05:23] <at05gt> is there a way like in vista to lower the volume of individual programs?
[05:23] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: well its curreently unpartitioend space, but  you would  re install Ubuntu in to that space
[05:23] <sebsebseb> at05gt: uhmm
[05:23] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: correct, and i might resize win7 partition, good size?
[05:24] <sebsebseb> at05gt: depends on the user,  I guess for most 10.10 is worth upgrading to really
[05:24] <au9ustine> at05gt: foobar2k
[05:24] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: and having a  big seperate /home can be useful for Ubuntu :)
[05:24] <at05gt> au9ustine: i just searched the software center and found something that looks like it does what i need
[05:24] <mmoebius> Nautilus: do you have /etc/apache2/apache2.conf ?
[05:24] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: as well as other distros
[05:24] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: I'm starting to like ubuntu but i dont know enough about linux yet, still doing research...
[05:24] <Nautilus> mmoebius: yes
[05:24] <at05gt> au9ustine: pulseaudio volume control
[05:25] <au9ustine> at05gt: using wine, then install foobar2000
[05:25] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: /home makes re install easier,  I been explaining to uLinux about this recently,  and he linked to a good video as well on the subject :)
[05:25] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: I noticed in installation that you could choose something like /home, what is that all about?
[05:25] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: link for vid?
[05:26] <white_magic> what about fb2k & ubuntu?? is that possible?
[05:26] <at05gt> au9ustine: thanks but this pulse thing works perfect
[05:27] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: This is a bit old now since the video is for 9.04, however still relivent,  also I woudn't do 15GB like she has done, I would go with 10 or 12GB for /, then  a big seperate /home, and some swap space useually. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhnLk3gviWY
[05:27] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: as for what home is well, its your data, but also program user data
[05:27] <at05gt> au9ustin: PulseAudio Volume Control, it integrates into the sound prefeences and allows you to control the volume of each stream.
[05:27] <au9ustine> at05gt: alsa also is a good choice
[05:27] <at05gt> au9ustine: ill look into it TY
[05:28] <Diverdude> i am trying "sudo apt-get instal moonlight", but i get the error: Package moonlight is not available, but is referred to by another package.   How cani then see silverlight apps on linux?
[05:28] <au9ustine> white_magic: install foobar2k using wine
[05:29] <white_magic> well i assume you can install it using wine, but how well does it work?
[05:29] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: could you help me with one other thing?
[05:29] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: depends on what it is
[05:30] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: i have to go through some extra trouble to get my wireless card to work, I've figured it out but i dont know how to make the changes stay so that when i reboot everything is taken care of, in more depth...
[05:30] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: i have to change the order of some file
[05:30] <at05gt> xbonesx: card or USB adapter?
[05:30] <xbonesx> i have to have ndiswrapper run before ssb.
[05:30] <at05gt> just get Wicd
[05:30] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: card
[05:31] <at05gt> i had the same issue with my usb wireless adapter and i installed wicd and it works fine now
[05:31] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: maybe at05gt can help you with that
[05:31] <xbonesx> this is what i have to do one sec ill get you a link
[05:31] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: file:///media/XXTRIPXX/New%20folder/Feisty_No-Fluff.htm#Step%203:%20All%20BCM43xx%20-%20Configure%20NDISWrapper%20(and%20WPA%20Supplicant)
[05:32] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: shit sry its a file i saved ill get you the actual link...
[05:32] <at05gt> sebsebseb: wo wo wo dont go volunteering my noob ass for things
[05:32] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: no sorting out wireless issues in Ubuntu isn't my area
[05:32] <at05gt> lol
[05:32] <rww> !ohmy
[05:32] <at05gt> sorry
[05:33] <mmoebius> Nautilus: took me some time
[05:33] <Nautilus> mmoebius: sorry 'bout that
[05:33] <mmoebius> Nautilus: http://pastebin.ca/1942584
[05:33] <xbonesx> at05gt: do you think you would be able to assist me in getting the change to stay
[05:33] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: however I can give you this and yeah you might be able to get a WIndows driver working in nidiswrapper or something
[05:33] <sebsebseb> !wireless | xbonesx
[05:33] <mmoebius> Nautilus: but befor e runnin it, you have to fir in the right values for ServerRoot (what your outigianl apache2.conf has)
[05:34] <thune3> Diverdude: the plugin is in the universe repository, if that's what you are looking for: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/moonlight-plugin-mozilla
[05:34] <at05gt> xbonesx: i have no experience in such matters, i just installed Ub 2 days ago, sorry, id love to help you but im not sure id be of any use
[05:34] <mmoebius> Nautilus: and you'llh a to point Documentroot and the <Directory ...>  statement to the empty directory you prepared
[05:34] <xbonesx> at05gt: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZkGf43ht
[05:34] <at05gt> xbonesx: looks greek to me
[05:35] <xbonesx> at05gt: and this is the code i have to run to get the changes to stay...
[05:35] <Kane_hart> does 9 Mbps sound right for disk write lol
[05:35] <at05gt> xbonesx: as i said a sec ago i installed Ub 2 days ago, so im not much help, i do apologize
[05:35] <xbonesx> at05gt: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aNZdkpyv
[05:35] <xbonesx> at05gt: oh sry i didnt get your messeges
[05:36] <Nautilus> mmoebius: I save this in the empty dir I made?
[05:36] <mmoebius> Nautilus: And, you' ll have to change "user" and "group" if you have them
[05:36] <UbuXubu> how do i register?
[05:36] <mmoebius> Nautilus: you can save the pastebin e.g.  in your home directory
[05:36] <at05gt> xbonesx: its cool, id love to help but my skills in linux are lacking
[05:36] <sebsebseb> !register | UbuXubu
[05:37] <mmoebius> Nautilus: The server's config should never be in the "document root" and the empty directory you made will be the new "document root" for the test setup
[05:37] <UbuXubu> aa
[05:37] <xbonesx> at05gt: all good my man
[05:37] <UbuXubu> i am registered?
[05:37] <Nautilus> mmoebius: but it's just a test
[05:37] <mmoebius> Nautilus: yes, sure
[05:37] <mmoebius> Nautilus: just a test
[05:38] <mmoebius> Nautilus: and you won't yhange apaches config permanently that is why you will start apache with the -f option on the console
[05:38] <UbuXubu> why does it say i am unregistered?
[05:38] <xbonesx> need someone with wireless exp. to tell me why this code isnt working to make change stay, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aNZdkpyv
[05:38] <hollanikrow> gooday hiredgun555
[05:38] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Have you made the cahnges i Outlined abvove ?
[05:38] <Blue1> xbonesx: no wireless expert but you have install mis-spelled
[05:39] <Nautilus> mmoebius: going over them now
[05:39] <rww> UbuXubu: you're not identified with nickserv.
[05:39] <Glen__> hello all  got a question.   I just installed Ubuntu   I looked at the Ubuntu One.   and started it.  I got the email and entered the code.  I get the screen Confirm computer access and it talkes abut the free ubuntu one 2gb plan.   When I hit the Subscrib and add this computer button, I get an error saying it cant establish a connection to the server at localhost:51111.
[05:40] <Glen__> Is there a problem with the website?  why is it wanting to go to localhost?
[05:40] <xbonesx> Blue1: hahaha i copied from wiki docs on ubuntu website
[05:40] <xbonesx> Blue1: wifi*
[05:40] <Blue1> xbonesx: yeah that doesn't always work - but I actually try my code before I post it onto pkill-9.com
[05:41] <dax2112rush> Can I install a package ignoring a dependency (ie ignore wine1.0 since I have wine1.3)?
[05:42] <Blue1> dax2112rush: your question is about as clear as the bottom of the hudson.  if you have wine 1.3 installed, why are you fooling around with 1.0?
[05:42] <sacho> dax2112rush: No, and it's not necessary that 1.3 is backward compatible with 1.0
[05:42] <MIH1406> In the first installation of Ubuntu the USpash has a good resolution. But after updating the resolution changed and became larger. How can I change the USplash resolution?
[05:42] <Nautilus> mmoebius: ok, for User & Group I think they're www-data but not sure. How to confirm?
[05:43] <laxative> hey everyone
[05:43] <laxative> i just started up a blog about ubuntu.  wanna see?
[05:43] <mmoebius> Nautilus: they' re in /etc/apache2/envvars
[05:43] <mmoebius> Nautilus: I think www-data is right for both
[05:43] <dax2112rush> Blue1: I want to install a package with a dependency to the wine1.0 but It won't let me install it since I have wine1.3 installed (and I suppose wine1.3 has a conflicts with wine1.0)
[05:43] <dax2112rush> sacho: it won't let me do it
[05:43] <Nautilus> mmoebius: yup, www-datat
[05:44] <Blue1> dax2112rush: dare I ask, what are you trying to install?
[05:44] <dax2112rush> Blue1: dssi-vst
[05:44] <Nautilus> mmoebius: -t of course
[05:44] <studentz> Hi there I update to flash 64   “Square” and  it is not working for me.
[05:44] <Blue1> dax2112rush: what is it?
[05:44] <mmoebius> Nautilus: The empty directory that you prepared should be 'chown www-data:www-data' then
[05:44] <laxative> anyone?
[05:44] <dax2112rush> Blue1: an adapter for windows Vst audio plugins
[05:44] <UbuXubu> yes i am identified
[05:45] <detrix> Hi, I have added a second hard drive.  I need to know how to format it (should I use ext3 or ext4?) and then add it to the /etc/fstab file.
[05:45] <Blue1> studentz: do you have a 64 bit system?
[05:45] <studentz> Blue1 Yep
[05:45] <UbuXubu> if i am not identified the nhow do i do it?
[05:45] <Blue1> dax2112rush: yea you need more an expert in that -- wine has worked well for almost everything I throw at it, except of course, it has no usb support (for that I use virtual box)
[05:45] <rww> UbuXubu: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#identify
[05:46] <Glen__>  hello all  got a question.   I just installed Ubuntu   I looked at the Ubuntu One.   and started it.  I got the email and entered the code.  I get the screen Confirm computer access and it talkes abut the free ubuntu one 2gb plan.   When I hit the Subscrib and add this computer button, I get an error saying it cant establish a connection to the server at localhost:51111
[05:46] <kristiina> how to run gnome main menu from terminal?
[05:46] <Blue1> studentz: where did you get the 64 bit flash from?
[05:46] <Glen__>  Is there a problem with the website?  why is it wanting to go to localhost?
[05:46] <mmoebius> detrix: first, partition the drive. use fdisk or gparted
[05:46] <dax2112rush> Blue1: ok, thansk anyways
[05:46] <mmoebius> detrix: You want the driva as one big data space, i guess ?
[05:47] <detrix> mmoebius, correct.
[05:47] <_Ray_> Hey. What's an easy way to see a binary file's.. binary? Meaning, sort of like hexdump or od, but literally "00101001 10000110", etc.
[05:47] <mmoebius> detrix: then make just one partition.
[05:47] <studentz> Blue1 first try from adobe site and later I use sevenmachine ppa
[05:47] <NoTownKasper> Ok, I've got a show-stopper problem here. I just installed Samba and NFS and the associated libs...yet Ubunutu 10.04 seems to think that they aren't installed. Network sharing is a must...so any help would be appreciated.
[05:47] <mmoebius> detrix: fdisk will do. Do you know the devices /dev/sdXYZ name ?
[05:47] <i_is_broke> can you use the regular disk to install with the same /home partition or do you need the alternate?
[05:47] <sacho> _Ray_: I use GHex, if you're using gnome.
[05:47] <_Ray_> Thanks :)
[05:48] <sacho> _Ray_: man xxd also
[05:48] <laxative> mmoebius, i just started a blog about ubuntu and i'm trying to spread the word.  want to see ?
[05:48] <Blue1> studentz: i THOUGHT that they had quit making 64 bit flash unavil.
[05:48] <UbuXubu> rww: i configured my client with my password so it does it all for me?
[05:48] <detrix> mmoebius, I have gparted formating it now......its late for me, and I guess I overlooked how to get gparted to format it....;)
[05:49] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: you might try the article pointed to here:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=309
[05:49] <detrix> mmoebius, but I may need some help with the fstab entry if you dont mind.
[05:49] <mmoebius> detrix: no problem
[05:49] <studentz> Blue1 they release today the las beta. Most of the people does not have any problem exept me
[05:49] <Nautilus> mmoebius: did the chown and stiff,  but I get an error on line 21 that /etc/apache isnt a valid ServerRoot
[05:49] <Nautilus> mmo err /etc/apache2
[05:49] <Blue1> i_is_broke: you can install /home/ under the root directory /, or it can be a seperate partition your choice
[05:49] <mmoebius> Nautilus: try making an empty director y for that, too.
[05:50] <Nautilus> i have the dir
[05:50] <Nautilus> I'm in it, in CLI
[05:50] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: That would be fine and dandy...except I can't configure something that isn't even showing as installed. :P
[05:50] <Blue1> studentz: you have a url for that?
[05:50] <mmoebius> And that emtpy directory should be writeable by sthe user www-data:www-data
[05:50] <Nautilus> it is
[05:50] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: sorry that seems to help a lot of people.
[05:50] <Nautilus> mmoebius: I did: chown -R www-data:www-data /home/brian/apachetest
[05:50] <rww> UbuXubu: assuming you did it right, you should get automatically identified on connect, yes
[05:50] <PerditaLupo> man ... okay i have ubuntu 10.04 loaded up and rarin to go.   it's good, i like it .... but i am stuck .... need something neat to do .... or at least .... pimp my ubuntu ?
[05:50] <mmoebius> Nautilus: ServerSoot /etc/apache2 is not empty :-(
[05:51] <laxative> mmoebius?
[05:51] <mmoebius> Nautilus: You may need another empty directory for "ServerRoot"
[05:51] <UbuXubu> rww: yes i went into my client and put my password there and when i log on it does not ask for my password
[05:51] <mmoebius> laxative: ok
[05:51] <studentz> Blue1 here is                labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
[05:51] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: Nothing to be sorry for...I actually tried something very similar...but it's like Ubuntu doesn't recognize that samba and samba-common are even installed. :(
[05:51] <Nautilus> mmoebius: Oh maybe I took you too literally, I copied it from apache.conf
[05:52] <laxative> http://www.tinyurl.com/2snvvs
[05:52] <Blue1> studentz: just d/l trying now
[05:52] <Nautilus> mmoebius: <mmoebius> Nautilus: but befor e runnin it, you have to fir in the right values for ServerRoot (what your outigianl apache2.conf has)
[05:52] <UbuXubu> its probably becasue the is my 2nd nickname rww?
[05:54] <mmoebius> laxative: That is a redirect to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/human_feces ... what's the fun about it ?
[05:54] <dax2112rush> Is it possible to force apt to ignore a given dependency?
[05:54] <mmoebius> Nautilus: I was wrong on that
[05:54] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Try an empty directory for ServerRoot
[05:55] <rww> UbuXubu: If you followed the instructions I linked to, it'd have you put in your username too, so it wouldn't matter.
[05:55] <Nautilus> mmoebius: doing that
[05:55] <Nautilus> chown'd it too
[05:55] <mmoebius> mmoebius: An empty directory that is different from DocumentRoot
[05:55] <NoTownKasper> The one problem with linux becoming more popular...more morons usin it who think fecal-links are funny. :\
[05:55] <mmoebius> Nautilus: very good.
[05:55] <mmoebius> Nautilus: is apache now willing to start any better ?
[05:56] <mmoebius> Nautilus: and i suppose you start apache2 with sudo so it can claim port 80, right ?
[05:57] <Nautilus> apache2: Syntax error on line 23 of apachetestconfig: Cannot load /home/brian/apachetestserver/modules/mod_actions.so into server: /home/brian/apachetestserver/modules/mod_actions.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or direct
[05:57] <Nautilus> i think my ServerRoot has to go back
[05:57] <Nautilus> just like ya said the first time
[05:57] <hanasaki> how can I turn off HTTP_VIA    going out in squid?
[05:58] <mmoebius> Nautilus: I am getting a llittle tired. Need sleep badly . It's almost 7'o clock in the morning here
[05:58] <Nautilus> apache2: Syntax error on line 23 of apachetestconfig: Cannot load /etc/apache2/modules/mod_actions.so into server: /etc/apache2/modules/mod_actions.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:58] <detrix> mmoebius, Thanks again, I have the new drive mounted.
[05:58] <Nautilus> mmoebius: yea me too, man wtf.
[05:58] <Nautilus> mmoebius: tons of thanks for your help
[05:59] <laxative> http://www.tinyurl.com/2snvvs
[05:59] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Nevertheless, if you get that "simple" config working you can make dead-sure that no redirection occurs
[05:59] <Nautilus> mmoebius: yea, whats a week or so
[05:59] <NoTownKasper> Someone kline laxative?
[05:59]  * Nautilus sighs
[05:59] <tp43_> how do you identify, what is the command?
[05:59] <Nautilus> mmoebius: I do appreciate your effort, thanks
[05:59] <mmoebius> Nautilus: and you can then, steep-by step test adding your virtual servers into the almost empty , but virtualizeable, server config
[06:00] <IdleOne> NoTownKasper: why?
[06:00] <Blue1> studentz: just installed new flash seems to work fine
[06:00] <Haballo> I use xfce. My partions are not shwon at the side pane of the file manager
[06:00] <laxative> http://pastebin.com/f56a93969
[06:00] <Haballo> they are shown as folders
[06:01] <studentz> Blue1 Good for you but I still have the problem, I Have audio but no video
[06:01] <mmoebius> Have a double plus good and double plus productive day everybody ;-)
[06:01] <Haballo> can anybody help me pls?
[06:01] <will_> Hi. Anyone know of a program that can bulk convert m4a audio files (off iTunes) to mp3?
[06:01] <mmoebius_afk> !ask | Haballo
[06:01] <NoTownKasper> !op
[06:01] <IdleOne> NoTownKasper: yes?
[06:02] <NoTownKasper> IdleOne: We've got a genius posting some very nasty links to very objectionable, non-Ubuntu related material...example...pages about poop...anything that can be done about it?
[06:02] <rww> NoTownKasper: he's been removed from the channel already
[06:03] <IdleOne> NoTownKasper: I removed him already. if they are sending via PM I suggest you ignore them but feel free to join #ubuntu-ops to report it.
[06:03] <Haballo> I use xfce. My partions are not shwon at the side pane of the file manager, they are shown as folders, how can changer their icons?
[06:03] <NoTownKasper> Oh...well...apparently I'm a genius too...I have join/part messages throttled. My mistake and my apologies.
[06:04] <mmoebius_afk> Nautilus: Last words: If stuck, try to understand what apache2.cnf and all the other stuff throws at you. The original Documentation http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/ is good especially http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/quickreference.html
[06:04] <IdleOne> NoTownKasper: no worries :)
[06:04] <Nautilus> mmoebius_afk: but i havent changed anything else, it's like this string is stuck in-the-ether somewhere
[06:04] <Nautilus> mmoebius_afk: this box has been running 1-2 years.
[06:05] <i_is_broke> does gparted come on the regular disk?
[06:05] <Nautilus> mmoebius_afk: nites
[06:05] <Blue1> i_is_broke: yes on the live cd
[06:05] <mmoebius_afk> Nautilus: It ain't the ether, trust me. And don't run to "reinstalling" It's not Windows :-)
[06:05] <mmoebius_afk> g'night
[06:05] <i_is_broke> Blue1, ty
[06:05] <Nautilus> mmoebius_afk: no reinstalling, I know I want to fix it
 I use xfce. My partions are not shwon at the side pane of the file manager, they are shown as folders, how can changer their icons?
[06:06] <Nautilus> mmoebius_afk: it aint in my files!
[06:06] <Blue1> i_is_broke: it is NOT part of the netbook remix livecd however
[06:06] <IdleOne> Haballo: I don't know. you may want to try asking in #xubuntu
[06:06] <Blue1> i_is_broke: found that out hardway
 It's empty room
[06:07] <i_is_broke> Blue1, well since i am running a amd quad core i dont think i want the netbook.
[06:07] <IdleOne> Haballo: there are 50 users in #xubuntu
[06:08] <Blue1> i_is_broke: kewl but I ran into that problem on a netbook, stealing space from windows --
 really!! it was empty the last time I was in
[06:08] <i_is_broke> lol dont blame you
[06:08] <i_is_broke> thanks anyways...laters
[06:08] <NoTownKasper> Ok, so I have Samba installed as well as samba-common and the samba server configuration tool that Blue1 pointed me at, I have my folders configured to be shared but they're invisible to the windows machines on the local network...
[06:09] <IdleOne> Haballo: it may not be active at the moment but try joining and asking and if someone is around I am sure they will try to help
[06:09] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: okay network debugging 101 - can each machine ping each other?
 okay, thanks
[06:10] <icedtea> hello, is there a way to go from ubuntu -> kubuntu without reinstalling everything?
[06:10] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: Sorry, I was missinformed, they're visible, but not accessable. and yes, they can ping eachother. :P
[06:11] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: okay.
[06:12] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: sometime it helps to put the host name of each machine in the hosts file - that has been a show stopper for me.
[06:12] <NoTownKasper> Mine or theirs?
[06:12] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: both
[06:13] <caken> my laptop using lucid, it's work fine after installing. but wireless device wont be active even i push the button. need your all help please
[06:13] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: Well, that will be a fun one to try and walk my parents through...
[06:13] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: Any other, easier suggestions to try first? lol
[06:14] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: nope -- I switched my folks over to linux a year ago - they are in their 80's -- yo might consider that
[06:14] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: Paraphrased Error Message: Windows can see that Ubuntu-Desktop exists, but cannot find the folder.
[06:14] <st> and other question, can you trcommend me som e gui file manager, the lightr, the bertter?
[06:15] <icedtea> midnight commander
[06:15] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: easy file sharing in gnome:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=190
[06:16] <rabidweezle> with nvidia cards, if you want to use the restricted driver you have to disable the free one right?
[06:16] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: bah, link me to the article next time and not the wordpress bookmark. ;)
[06:16] <Blue1> rabidweezle: no you should just be able to enable the restricted dirver - that's all I've ever done.
[06:16] <white_magic> totally random question.. is there a commandline file text editor?
[06:16] <white_magic> (by default, in ubuntu)
[06:17] <rabidweezle> Blue1: maybe the restricted driver doesn't like my gtx 260M :(
[06:17] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: sorry that's the why my site is set up...
[06:17] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: Actually, that article is what I tried the first time and it failed the exact same...so I came in here and followed your suggestion, even re-installed samba...and am having the same problem.
[06:17] <st> white_magic, nano, vim, ed
[06:17] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: ok
[06:17] <white_magic> ty
[06:17] <caken> i using acer aspire 2920z n install lucid lynx into that. but my wireless device wont active even when i push wireless button.
[06:18] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: Error code 0x80070043 if that means anything, from the Windows Vista machine when trying to access a shared folder over the network. :P
[06:19] <st> is there some lightwayght file manager which can browse SMB network?
[06:20] <st> NoTownKasper, "network name not found"
[06:20] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: yeah seems to be a dns issue - adding the ips to the host file usually resolves the issues
[06:20] <NoTownKasper> ...
[06:20] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: YMMV
[06:21] <NoTownKasper> One of these days, things will work properly out of the box...</me grumbles.>
[06:21] <st> or you may just not play fool with hosts like in 1969 and just set up DNS
[06:21] <Blue1> bind9
[06:21] <frobisher> white magic yes there is nano
[06:21] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: I'm tired...in whole words please? :P
[06:22] <st> screw bind, dnsmasq will do fine
[06:22] <caken> how i know what wireless driver i used?
[06:23] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: bind9 is th name of the dns service in ubuntu however you issue MIGHT be resolved if it can usually get to the hosts.  that means adding the ip to /etc/hosts and  \Windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
[06:23] <st> hosts is deprecated
[06:24] <Blue1> St: ez fix though
[06:24] <etherealite_> hey I accidentally booted my system disk inside KVM and now it won't boot, How can i get this things working again?
[06:24] <caken> !wireless
[06:25] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: Ok...and what happens when we reboot in a different cycle and the router assigns me a different IP? Should I just drop in the first 6 or so IP's in the 192.168.1 block?
[06:25] <Nautilus> in 8.04LTS how do I empty the 'trashcan' aka 'lost+found' ?
[06:25] <UbuXubu> i am registered? why does this ubuntu-unreg thing happened?
[06:25] <Nautilus> i'm like damn thats a dumb Q, but I don't see it.
[06:25] <st> NoTownKasper, if you have router, you have dns+dhcp. just set windows to use DNS for NETBIOS name resolution
[06:25] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: you should use static ip reservations based on mac addresses in the router - so the same mac address always gets the same ip.  it depends on the router and software you are using however.
[06:26] <Nautilus> LOL, Oh! That trashcan (lower right)
[06:26] <st> is there some lightwayght file manager which can browse SMB network?
[06:26] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: I have no idea what the router is set up to do, nor do I have access to change it, and the person who does wouldn't even understand the term static IP...:\
[06:26] <Blue1> dns is both simple and complex at the same time.
[06:27] <Blue1> :-(
[06:27] <armyriad> What is the usual VNC server?
[06:27] <Blue1> armyriad: x11vnc
[06:27] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: I guess I get to go back to windows...sharing is a serious requirement and it needs to be point and click simple on all 3 machines. *sigh*
[06:28] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: sorry I wasn't able to help.
[06:29] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: No worries, and thanks for the assistance, I'm just dealing with completely computer illiterate roomates on a subject that even my understanding is a bit patchy.
[06:29] <icedtea> NoTownKasper: I've used samba quite a bit. Whats your issue again?
[06:29] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: I have not setup samba in over 3 years, when all my machines are now linux 24/7/365
[06:29] <NoTownKasper> icedtea: Simple answer Windows vista machine on a local network, can see but not access my shared folders.
[06:29] <white_magic> how can i force ubuntu to upgrade itself?
[06:30] <white_magic> it's having a hard time completing the partial upgrade process
[06:30] <white_magic> maybe it's because my wifi is flakey
[06:30] <st> NoTownKasper, 'what you mean, cannot access'?
[06:30] <Blue1> white_magic: what do  you mean upgrade, upgrade as in getting software updates, or upgrade is in going from one release to another?
[06:30] <NoTownKasper> St ...I mean it can't access the folder.
[06:30] <st> NoTownKasper, diagnostics?
[06:31] <white_magic> Blue1: i'm not 100% sure. i have 10.10 beta and it told me it wants to upgrade certain components, but it wasn't able to fetch them successfully
[06:31] <white_magic> now i can't find any place where i can force the upgrade to start again
[06:31] <Blue1> white_magic: you should take 10.10 issues to #ubuntu+1
[06:31] <NoTownKasper> st: error code 0x80070043 - network name cannot be found. paraphrased error message: windows can see the ubuntu desktop but can't find the folder.
[06:31] <white_magic> Blue1: it's kinda dead there :(
[06:31] <caken> how the way to know what wireless driver i used?
[06:31] <Blue1> icedtea: that a dns issue error code
[06:31] <rww> white_magic: Ubuntu Maverick discussion and support is in #ubuntu+1, not here. As a general rule, though, doing partial upgrades on a development version of Ubuntu is a good way to break things.
[06:31] <Nautilus> NoTownKasper: Sound like you need to get the Vista settings just right.  Vista is a pita there.  BTW, this is the #ubuntu channel
[06:32] <NoTownKasper> Nautilus: You're right...and I'm using Ubuntu and trying to configure it so the other systems can access it. Thanks for telling me what channel I joined though. :\
[06:32] <white_magic> haha, rww, well, it's ubuntu that told me to do the partial upgrade
[06:32] <icedtea> NoTownKasper: how did  you setup samba on the linux box?
[06:32] <Nautilus> NoTownKasper: sorry 'bout that bit, I see.
[06:33] <Nautilus> NoTownKasper: just sayin', it's probably the vista box not yours.
[06:33] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: another dumb question, you DID setup a samba password ritght? smbpass iirc
[06:33] <caken> is nobody know, or i just invisible?
[06:34] <Blue1> caken: sorry the question again.
[06:34] <SolarisBoy> is anyone running vim 7.3 & ubuntu 10.04?
[06:34] <st> NoTownKasper, have you switched Vista to Windows 95 compatibility mode?
[06:35] <SolarisBoy> how would i go about installing vim 7.3 i currently have 7.2 from repos
[06:35] <st> samba cannot be accessed from windows 98/NT4
[06:35] <caken> Blue1, i have acer aspire 2920z laptop and i using ubuntu lucid lynx into it. but the wireless device is wont active even i push the wireless button. u have idea to fix it?
[06:35] <SolarisBoy> actually, wow actually this is 6.3?
[06:35] <etherealite_> help I nuked my system.
[06:35] <Blue1> caken: what type of card to you have?
[06:36] <NoTownKasper> icedtea: First time I right-clicked the folder in nautilus and clicked 'share this folder' it prompted me to install the services and restart my session, so I did...and it flopped. So I reinstalled samba manually using apt-get install samba samba-common and again tried to share the folders and it flopped. So I tried the first step, but used sudo nautilus...and it flopped...so I manually installed samba and samba-common again and the
[06:36] <st> NoTownKasper, HAD setup your Vista box for working with WINDOWS 95 servers?
[06:36] <caken> i am not sure what is that. so how to know that?
[06:37] <Blue1> caken: let me get my netbook and we'll check
[06:37] <icedtea> caken: type 'lspci' at a command line
[06:37] <NoTownKasper> Guys...I appreciate all the help but I can't keep up with 5 people at once...lol
[06:37] <caken> icedtea, ok
[06:37] <Nastya> Hi everyone!
[06:38] <NoTownKasper> st: I don't know, but I doubt it...there hasn't been a '95 box around here since...well...'98 or so. lol
[06:38] <caken> !hi | Nastya
[06:39] <st> NoTownKasper, by default samba works like windows 95 server and vista should be setup to work with it
[06:39] <Nastya> Recommend me please a nice console e-mail client
[06:39] <rww> Nastya: mutt
[06:39] <Blue1> caken: lspci | grep Wireless
[06:39] <Nastya> I have found several ones but I don't know which is the best one
[06:39] <st> is there some lightwayght file manager which can browse SMB network?
[06:40] <caken> icedtea, yes. i see many line of it. lol
[06:40] <NoTownKasper> st: Well, I know previous versions of Ubuntu have been far simpler when it comes to sharing, as in right-click, share this folder...why this is suddenly so complex is beyond me.
[06:40] <white_magic> how has it changed?
[06:40] <st> NoTownKasper, because samba developers are lazy and totally lost behind
[06:40] <caken> icedtea, nothing happen
[06:41] <icedtea> NoTownKasper: I have Vista on my laptop, but my router fried the other day, otherwise I would try it out
[06:41]  * NoTownKasper is really losing his bloody patience...
[06:42] <st> NoTownKasper, I would use Vista for sharing files, it's much better and mere compatible
[06:42] <icedtea> NoTownKasper: let me see if I can find the power adapter to my switch
[06:43] <NoTownKasper> st: maybe I'm missing something here, but how can I offer files on my HD to other machines on the network without moving them to a shared folder on another machine, if my machine isn't configured to share files?
[06:44] <WillWill56> If I've got 600 MHz, 128MB RAM, and 2 GB SDD, would it be worth trying to install a flavour of Ubuntu?
[06:44] <caken> Blue1, nothing happened. i was type lspci. it's work but show many lines. which show what my wireless card type?
[06:44] <fratzbc> wihtouth all the fancy graph options
[06:44] <st> NoTownKasper, if you choosed to keep your files on Ubuntu machine, you cannot. live with consequences or set up vista properly
[06:45] <st> if I was an Ubuntu developer, I would put in the Network setup wizard to configure samba so it worked OOB, and not in its idiotic state it is now
[06:46] <Blue1> caken: lspci | grep Wireless only showed my wireless adapter: for example  01:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[06:46] <st> why ubuntu cannot just pirate the configuration wizards from opensuse ot mandriva? aren;t they gpled?
[06:47] <squarrel> Does 'Simple Backup config' make a clone of MBR?
[06:47] <IdleOne> !ot | st
[06:47] <leo> hey
[06:47] <leo> oh!
[06:47] <st> squarrel, no, it's just TAR frontend
[06:47] <NoTownKasper> st: So, basically, what you're saying is, that something that worked in previous versions of Ubuntu, that now, suddenly isn't working in 10.04, is somehow my fault for not trying to walk a couple of computer illiterate people through how to configure Vista? Thanks...but incorrect. :\
[06:48] <squarrel> st: ok
[06:48] <faizaff> I need some help for booting problem, can someone guide me
[06:48] <st> NoTownKasper, you setup it for them, they use it. problem solved
[06:49]  * NoTownKasper isn't going to explain, once again, that he doesn't have physical access to the machines, or that he shouldn't have to go through all of this for something that worked OOB previously. Kthnx.
[06:49] <faizaff> Earlier it started with blank screen, no text no splash, now it completly freezed no movement, pl
[06:50] <st> Blue1, bu he said he can browse shares from win machine, so it can see server and get shares list, it's not a dns problem
[06:50] <faizaff> Hi! anyone for me pl
[06:51] <WillWill56> Is there some kind of secret codeword I need to say to get someones attention in this channel, or are you all trying to focus on the one topic?
[06:51] <wasnik> hi i dont have sound on a newly installed ubuntu netbook please help
[06:52] <IdleOne> WillWill56: you might try Xubuntu or Lubuntu with those specs
[06:52] <st> WillWill56, had you paid us for answering your questions? guess not
[06:52] <IdleOne> st: drop the attitude please.
[06:52] <WillWill56> IdleOne: Thanks, I'll try that
[06:53] <wasnik> hi could someone let me know how to get sound on newly installed netbook
[06:53] <st> WillWill56, and no, only ubuntu will 'work', but you'll won't be able to run >2 programs simul;atneously
[06:53] <st> *Lubuntu
[06:53] <wasnik> hi could someone let me know how to get sound on newly installed netbook my soundcards are not detected
[06:53] <IdleOne> !sounds | wasnik
[06:53] <xbonesx> Is there anyone on with networking exp.?
[06:54] <WillWill56> st: Well the thing only cost $130 AUD and has a 7" screen, so I guess I wouldn't mind, just would have to use the alternate installer.
[06:54] <mobasher> xbonesx=}} fire away your question :)
[06:54] <st> WillWill56, also there will be crashes as it will kill various processes running out of memory
[06:54] <faizaff> Well someone for my booting problem pl.!
[06:54] <xbonesx> mobasher: I had to change the order for ssb and ndiswrapper and i need the changes to stay so when i reboot i don't have to input the codes again
[06:54] <wasnik> ubottu: I have checked the other links except http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin
[06:55] <dubey> hello
[06:55] <clint-> :)
[06:56] <mobasher> xbonesx=}} ssb ?? the security code for the wireless ?
[06:56] <juk> wtf, pidgin stores my gmail password in plain file ~/.purple/accounts.xml
[06:56] <IdleOne> juk: yup
[06:56] <IdleOne> juk: and they are not going to change that.
[06:56] <wasnik> ubottu: I didnt understand the dmix usage. ubuntu is not even detecting my soundcards
[06:56] <NoTownKasper> juk: That's why you never use pidgin for secure email accounts...
[06:56] <xbonesx> mobasher: not sure i follow this line of code to get things to work...
[06:57] <IdleOne> wasnik: ubottu is a robot. does not answer questions.
[06:57] <dubey> i am using ubuntu 10.4 since last 5Months, which is working good. But yesturday i enabled Bonjur in Pidgin and my system hanged up. I rebooted, tried again same problem, I uninstalled then reinstalled, tried again same problem
[06:57] <dubey> what i did wrong ?
[06:57] <elementzero> hey, i have a question
[06:57] <xbonesx> mobasher: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=kbsmejCs
[06:57] <halexander> Hello?
[06:57] <genewitch> i am trying to make an init.d script, and when start-stop-daemon tries to start the program it barfs "can't find config file" but when i type /path/to/program it works fine. everything is owned by root. should i change something else?
[06:57] <mobasher> xbonesx=}} i think there is a bug against that -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/188621
[06:58] <madfox> dubey 10.4? wow you must live in the future O.o
[06:58] <elementzero> Prior to updating, I had Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic and Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic (Recovery mode) as selectable in grub
[06:58] <elementzero> Now, in addition to that, I have Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-24-generic
[06:58] <IdleOne> madfox: how was that helpful?
[06:58] <elementzero> why did updating install another boot option
[06:58] <dubey> madfox: didn't get you ?
[06:59] <xbonesx> Also, could someone point me in the direction of some good new user guides for ubuntu and linux workings?
[06:59] <cfg> Hi
[06:59] <rww> !manual | xbonesx
[06:59] <madfox> IdleOne enforcing that giving proper versions is always going to be crucial to getting help?
[06:59] <mobasher> xbonesx=}} what you can do is stated in the bug report...you can make a bash shell script ..which is your workaround for now :)
[06:59] <madfox> dubey you meant 10.04
[06:59] <IdleOne> dubey: the version number is 10.04 dubey was being sarcastic instead of politely explaining it to you
[06:59] <dubey> Ubuntu TLS 10.04 Version
[06:59] <cfg> I have read that windows 7 has a hidden folder setup called "the vault" can a linux live cd see this vault?
[06:59] <ari_stress> hi all, how to list all installed packages from CLI?
[07:00] <madfox> cfg yes
[07:00] <rww> ari_stress: "aptitude search ~i" or "dpkg -l"
[07:00] <IdleOne> err i meant madfox was being sarcastic
[07:00] <ari_stress> thanks rww
[07:00] <halexander> Guys?
[07:00] <xbonesx> ubottu: is their one for ubuntu 9.04
[07:00] <halexander> Hello?
[07:00] <IdleOne> halexander: Hi
[07:01] <madfox> hi | halaxander
[07:01]  * Booby i love ubuntu ;)...
[07:01] <madfox> !hi | halaxander
[07:01] <halexander> IdleOne, do you know how to install a gamepad so it works with Mupen64, the emulator for nintendo 64 games?
[07:01] <IdleOne> halexander: I have no idea how
[07:02] <xbonesx> mobasher: im still very new to linux and ubuntu, im not sure what that guy is trying to explain in that bug link???
[07:02] <dubey> IdleOne: what would be the problem ?
[07:02] <halexander> I installed xserver-xorg-input-joystick but so far when I toggle the analog to digital switch on my gamepad, it doesn't switch anything, thus it's not recognized. I'd be greatfull if someone could help me out with this one.
[07:03] <jmmurray> Hi all. Anybody with knowledge on OpenERP?
[07:03] <wasnik> hi guys i dont have sound on recently installed netbook, soundcards are not gettin detected
[07:03] <madfox> !sound | wasnik
[07:04] <elementzero> hey, i have a quick question about grub, if anyone is interested
[07:04] <IdleOne> dubey: probably a bug in the Bonjour plugin I would guess
[07:04] <mobasher> xbonesx=}} okay PM me
[07:04] <madfox> elementzero go for it, though make sure its relevent to the topic
[07:04] <ZykoticK9_> halexander, i'd suggest you try using "blight's SDL input plugin" for Mupen64 (though I'm using Mupen64plus)
[07:05] <elementzero> Prior to updating, I had Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic and Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic (Recovery mode) as selectable in grub
[07:05] <halexander> I'm using that. But I can't use the controller.
[07:05] <elementzero> after updating, I have two MORE options in addition to Ubuntu....32-21-generic
[07:05] <halexander> The gamepad is simply -not- recognized by the OS.
[07:05] <elementzero> I now have Ubuntu....32-24-generic
[07:05] <elementzero> why did updating install two more boot options?
[07:05] <dubey> IdleOne: ok, But now i am not able to open pidgin
[07:06] <madfox> elementzero because your kernel got upgraded.
[07:06] <Tweaky> elementzero: it added your new kernel to the boot options
[07:06] <elementzero> ok
[07:06] <ZykoticK9_> halexander, if you run "ls /dev/input/" in a terminal is there a js0 when the joystick is plugged in?
[07:06] <madfox> elementzero to insure that the new kernel doesnt screw you over it just installs the new kernel, it doesnt erase the old one
[07:06] <elementzero> so i just need to modify grub.cfg and get rid of the relevent options, then?
[07:06] <Tweaky> elementzero: yep
[07:06] <elementzero> k, thanks
[07:06] <madfox> elementzero err...thatd be problematic
[07:06] <elementzero> uh?
[07:07] <halexander> ZykoticK9_, I have a js0.
[07:07] <Erik_> Hi anyone outthere smart in setting up proxies and resolving problems with them. I deinstalled polipo But don't seem to be able to login to website anymore (with any browser) due to cookie problems. I can't for example login to i-google while i was able too when running polipo. Any ideas/suggestions are welcome.
[07:07]  * elementzero is hoping to reduce his menu options to: "Xubuntu 10.04", "Xubuntu 10.04 (Recovery Mode)", and "Windows 7"
[07:07] <madfox> elementzero 1.) You mangle grub so that you cannot use the updated kernel 2.)You remove the relevant options and you have useless kernel images laying around
[07:08] <madfox> elementzero ones that will keep coming back everytime grub gets updates
[07:08] <Tweaky> madfox: yeah thats true you could remove the outdated kernels
[07:09] <elementzero> madfox: I plan to remove the ...32-21 kernal and leave the 32-24 kernal
[07:09] <madfox> Tweaky elementzero thatd be the proper way. but id becareful and make sure the new one runs smoothly for you consistently first.
[07:09] <elementzero> and then get rid of the memtest+, as i doubt i'll need it
[07:09] <madfox> elementzeror untill you need it...
[07:09] <madfox> elementzero  untill you wish you had it...
[07:09] <st> only gamers and overclockers need it
[07:09] <NoTownKasper> elementzero: I'd leave at least one other kernel option and the memtest, it might be a bit bulky, but when something strikes and you actually need them, trust me, you'll thank yourself.
[07:10] <elementzero> fair enough
[07:10] <elementzero> i had just something strike, after all ^_^
[07:10] <madfox> elementzero  NoTownKasper o.o like the time the new kernel trashed my video and I was typing blind
[07:11] <elementzero> first time installing linux, did mint xfce. i installed the nvidia drivers and all i got was a black screen, even in recovery mode
[07:11] <elementzero> took a long time for me to figure out i needed to reboot with my liveusb, mount my partition, and change xorg.conf from nvidia to vesa to fix it
[07:11] <wasnik> hi guys just installed netbook but no sound. ubuntu does not detect my soundcards. please help
[07:11] <elementzero> anyways, now i'm on xubuntu, we'll see if the nvidia drivers do it again
[07:11] <Gnea> wasnik: which netbook?
[07:12] <wasnik> gnea: ubuntu 10.04
[07:12] <NoTownKasper> madfox: Yeah, like that.
[07:13] <Gnea> wasnik: so you installed standard ubuntu 10.04 on a netbook? or did you install netbook remix on a netbook?
[07:14] <wasnik> Gnea: standard ubuntu netbook
[07:16] <etherealite_> hello, can anyone tell me how to reinstall grub so i can boot my system?
[07:16] <Gnea> wasnik: so, yeah, which netbook?
[07:17] <guigui> hi
[07:17] <elementzero> etherealite_, I'm trying to configure it, myself. check here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[07:17] <mobasher> !grub | etherealite_
[07:17] <wasnik> Gnea: standard netbook
[07:17] <Tweaky> etherealite_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[07:18] <RealOpty> anyone know how to program a button on my mouse to operate my music player rhythmbox ?
[07:18] <armyriad> etherealite_: If you can't boot your system, you're going to need a live CD or a Grub CD.
[07:18] <Gnea> wasnik: who made the netbook? what's the model #?
[07:18] <etherealite_> armyriad what about the install cd in rescue mode?
[07:18] <elementzero> i'm on an asus 1215n and i don't think my sound card is recognized, either
[07:19] <etherealite_> armyriad if not, what rescue disk should I use?
[07:19] <Gnea> elementzero: if you open a terminal and type: alsamixer  does it report an error?
[07:19] <elementzero> nope
[07:20] <elementzero> lemme go try to play something
[07:20] <juk> just removed pidgin, and it even didn't bother to remove ~/.purple with my plain password!
[07:20] <wasnik> Gnea: I downloaded the version from this site http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/features
[07:20] <Gnea> juk: why would it?
[07:20] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: I forget the exact program name, but playdeb.net and probably getdeb.net have a program called omnijoy or something very similar which allows you to configure all sorts of mouse/joystick/controller functions for just that sort of issue. So there's an option. I use my logitect controller as a remote for VLC and Rhythmbox. :P
[07:21] <juk> Gnea:wtf, it stores my pass in plain file?
[07:21] <rww> juk: removing a package never, ever touches per-user configuration files in ~/
[07:21] <Gnea> wasnik: well, if alsamixer doesn't work, then I don't know what you can do
[07:21] <Tweaky> i use an origonal xbox controller in ubuntu lol
[07:21] <elementzero> alsamixer appears to work
[07:21] <Gnea> juk: mind the language, we know what it means.
[07:21] <Madpilot> rww, not true. There's a "remove with prejudice" option
[07:21] <elementzero> i see mixing bars and whatnot
[07:21] <Gnea> elementzero: then your sound works fine.
[07:22] <Gnea> you just need to make it work now
[07:22] <_dancek> juk, storing plain passes is a wtf (ymmv) but not removing user configs certainly isn't
[07:22] <rww> Madpilot: purging packages also doesn't remove per-user configuration files in ~/
[07:22] <RealOpty> NoTownKasper, thanks. ill look that up. that reminds me.
[07:22] <Madpilot> rww, in Synaptic, it's "remove all" or similar
[07:22] <rww> juk: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords
[07:22] <Gnea> juk: of course, setting proper ~ permissions tends to help
[07:22] <juk> rww:thanks
[07:23] <NoTownKasper> juk: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords
[07:23] <NoTownKasper> ...Bah, beat me to it.
[07:23] <rww> Madpilot: "Complete removal"? That purges the package, which as I've said, doesn't touch ~/
[07:23] <elementzero> I don't have any sound controls if i click on my speaker button, though :-P
[07:23] <juk> they should warn or something
[07:23] <elementzero> gimme a sec, though, since i'm installing flash so i can test some music
[07:23] <Madpilot> rww, pretty sure it does; admittedly it's been ages since I've actually removed something...
[07:23] <RealOpty> NoTownKasper, how do you get your remote to work with rhythmbox? i know about enabling the plugin lirc, but did you have to config anything?
[07:23] <frobisher> elementzero:did you unmute sound.
[07:23] <elementzero> it doesn't show it's muted
[07:24] <rww> Madpilot: You're wrong ;P
[07:24] <Gnea> elementzero: you could try 'sound preferences' when you click on the speaker
[07:24] <Madpilot> rww, won't be the first time today :)
[07:24] <elementzero> nvm, got em
[07:25] <elementzero> i don't see sound preferences, but i found my controls :)
[07:25] <fourstar_> is anyone here an amazon affiliate?
[07:25] <rww> !ot | fourstar_
[07:25] <sas> Hello! all
[07:25] <dancek> juk, why, every time a program saves a password its either in plaintext (you should know that) or in a keyring (which you know because you see some keyring app)
[07:25] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: It's been a few weeks I'd have to look back at the specifics and it's not on this machine, it's on my laptop, but yeah, I used the program to bluff the gamepad buttons into mimicing the same commands on my media keyboard.
[07:25] <elementzero> and firefox crashed while installing flash >_>
[07:25] <rww> Madpilot: (The difference between regular and complete removal is that the latter removes /system-wide/ configuration files)
[07:25] <dancek> juk, things like subversion save passwords in plaintext, too
[07:25] <GHH> using ppp0 interface but my client cant connect using  my IP(dynamic)over the internet. Any solution?
[07:25] <Madpilot> rww, ah, nvermind
[07:25] <sas> I have a serious boot problem! please help me
[07:25] <wasnik> Gnea: I installed gnome alsamixer and i dont see no soundcard or sliders
[07:25] <phanindra> anyremote says "disconnected from phone " what shall i do??
[07:26] <elementzero> sas, what's up
[07:26] <fourstar_> rww: this is the only channel with a huge community, and i'm sure someone in here is an affiliate. i just have a quick question, and there is no "affiliate channel" on ffreenode
[07:26] <Tweaky> sas: more specifically
[07:26] <fourstar_> plus i'm on ubuntu right now
[07:26] <fourstar_> so does that count?
[07:26] <frobisher> elementzero:in the top,right corner you will see something that resembles a speaker.Right click it and it should show volume.
[07:26] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: So if the command for my media keyboard was something like MKBplay for the play button, that's what I set the 'x' button on my controller to send when Rhythmbox is in the forefront. Make sense?
[07:26] <rww> fourstar_: It's not an Ubuntu support question, so it doesn't belong here.
[07:26] <juk> dancek:thanks, but here it comes to privacy
[07:26] <fourstar_> technically, since i'm on ubuntu, need support, it is an ubuntu support question
[07:26] <sas> it started with blank screen no text no splash but finally the desktop would come, today its just freezined no movement
[07:26] <rww> fourstar_: No, it's not.
[07:26] <fourstar_> modus ponens
[07:27] <elementzero> frobisher: yeah, but the only thing i can do is show and hide sound mixers. in anycase, my sound works :)
[07:27] <frobisher> Good
[07:27] <sas> elementzero: you got it, now I am comming to you through usb-live
[07:28] <fourstar_> are you richard stallman? or linus torvalds, rww?
[07:28] <fourstar_> you are most likely just an insignificant noob
[07:28] <fourstar_> so get lost
[07:28]  * NoTownKasper waves bye bye to fourstar while he-...oops...too late.
[07:28] <elementzero> sas: did you install nvidia drivers? lol
[07:28] <Tweaky> lol
[07:28] <sas> Tweaky: I hope you got it
[07:28]  * elementzero installed nvidia drivers and ubuntu booted to black. even i recovery mode. even with ctrl+alt+f1
[07:29] <sas> elementzero: yes
[07:29] <elementzero> sas: did the problem start after installing the drivers?
[07:29] <Tweaky> elementzero: oh god.. proprietary ones?
[07:29] <Balsaq> i had a corruption on my top panel...the place where th on/off switch was suddenly just show the letter "m"?
[07:29] <sas> yeah
[07:30] <abhijit> !panels | Balsaq
[07:30] <sas> elementzero:yes
[07:30] <elementzero> Tweaky: a box popped up and told me that i could have hardware acceleration, transparency, and everything else you'd want in a video card if i installed the restricted ones
[07:30] <Balsaq> !panels
[07:30] <abhijit> :/
[07:30] <elementzero> sas: the farthest i got on that problem before uninstalling linux mint xfce and installing xubuntu was
[07:30] <Balsaq> now my name is gone off the panles
[07:31] <NoTownKasper> elementzero: Sounds to me like your xconf broke when you installed the new drivers...
[07:31] <elementzero> Tweaky, what other options do i have?
[07:31] <GHH> using ppp0 interface but my client cant connect using  my IP(dynamic)over the internet. Any solution?
[07:31] <elementzero> sas: do an fdisk -l in the terminal to find your linux partition
[07:31] <sas> elementzero: it means nothing could be done
[07:31] <elementzero> sas: then do mount /dev/<your partition> <path to some random folder>
[07:31] <genewitch> i am trying to make an init.d script, and when start-stop-daemon tries to start the program it barfs "can't find config file" but when i type /path/to/program it works fine. everything is owned by root. should i change something else? note: the server says it can't find its config file, not start-stop-daemon.
[07:31] <Tweaky> elementzero: you shouldnt have to install proprietary video card drivers, it should work well with the open source
[07:32] <elementzero> Tweaky: does the update manager install the best ones for me?
[07:33] <Tweaky> elementzero: yes. i had the same kinda issue with ati propiedtary drivers
[07:33] <masen> genewitch: i'd bet that the PATH variable that includes your config file normally isn't present in the daemon environment
[07:33] <elementzero> sas: anyways, mount your linux partition to some folder, browse to that folder, and then browse to etc/X11/ and open up xorg.conf
[07:33] <NoTownKasper> Tweaky: There's OS drivers for Nvidea cards?
[07:33] <elementzero> sas: change whatever "nvidia" to "vesa", i think
[07:33] <sas> Even through live usb I can access my partition, tell me what next
[07:33] <genewitch> masen: i edited that line in the init.d script, though, i used /etc/init.d/skeleton
[07:33] <elementzero> sas: open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:33] <Gnea> wasnik: alsamixer isn't a gnome program.
[07:33] <Tweaky> NoTownKasper: yes
[07:33] <phanindraramesh_> how to find the port number??
[07:33] <genewitch> masen: how do i do the export path thing again
[07:33] <phanindraramesh_> how to find the port number??
[07:33] <abhijit> bye
[07:34] <masen> genewitch: i'm not sure in init.d scripts
[07:34] <elementzero> Tweaky: i assume i can't have any nvidia drivers, then, since this is an nvidia ion/optimus netbook :(
[07:34] <masen> i've just had similar issues with cron jobs
[07:34] <elementzero> everything must go through the intel gma :'(
[07:34] <genewitch> masen: just in general?
[07:34] <abhijit> !port | phanindraramesh_
[07:34] <NoTownKasper> Tweaky: Are those the ones that install with a default Ubuntu install? Because I've never been able to get 3D rendering to work without proprietary drivers for my Nvidea card...
[07:34] <masen> gemewitch: you could replace your normal binary with something like /usr/bin/env > /tmp/environment_vars
[07:34] <masen> to get a dump of the daemon environment
[07:35] <masen> genewitch: or possibly specify an absolute path to the config file in the line, if the binary supports that on the command line
[07:35] <genewitch> masen: how do i edit permanently the environment variables
[07:35] <wasnik> Gnea: I didnt have alsamixer to begin with, so i installed a gnome-alsamixer
[07:36] <elementzero> wtf
[07:36] <elementzero> "Unable to lock the download directory"
[07:36] <elementzero> why does it need to lock a temporary download directory when i apt-get?
[07:36] <phanindraramesh_> abhijit: terminal says -- !port:event not found
[07:36] <masen> genewitch: you could try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=872881
[07:36] <Tweaky> NoTownKasper: hmm yeah same issue i had with ati. i went into the compiz channel and someone walked me through getting it working perfect without proprietary
[07:36] <Gnea> wasnik: again, it's not a gui program, you're supposed to open a terminal and type: alsamixer
[07:36] <elementzero> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:36] <phanindraramesh_> abhijit: terminal says -- !port:event not found
[07:36] <abhijit> phanindraramesh_, :S
[07:37] <phanindraramesh_> !firewall
[07:37] <abhijit> phanindraramesh_, read that document. it may have info on how to find port number. i dont know
[07:37] <genewitch> cue: there's a way to type export $PATH and have it append
[07:37] <genewitch> export $1 $PATH or something
[07:38] <mmcji> howdee
[07:38] <masen> export PATH="$PATH:/etc:/usr/local/etc"
[07:38] <NoTownKasper> Tweaky: Interesting, might have to check that out later. Never had problems with proprietary except when setting up a dual-card, dual monitor system. lol
[07:38] <masen> genewitch: you should really take a look at my link, it's your exact problem
[07:38] <wasnik> Gnea: When i do that i get, alsamixer doesnot exist. no such profram
[07:38] <Jordan_U> etherealite_: What exactly happens when you try to boot?
[07:38] <elementzero> gragh
[07:38] <genewitch> masen: i did, but the server is already running as the user it needs
[07:39] <elementzero> are the flash alternatives any good?
[07:39] <rww> no
[07:39] <Gnea> wasnik: what is the result of this command:  cat /proc/asound/cards\
[07:39] <Gnea> wasnik: without the \ at the end
[07:39] <mmcji> i am trying to install Lotus Notes on Ubuntu 10.04 32bit.  I am having a dependency problem, when installing the .deb with dpkg i get 'package libgnome-desktop-2 is not installed.'
[07:39] <sas> elementzero: yes I managed to find that file and clicked it open, what next
[07:39] <elementzero> sas: what's in it?
[07:39] <masen> genewitch: try something like this in your script itself: PATH="$PATH:/path/to/config_file"
[07:39] <sas> How can I send you that!
[07:39] <elementzero> sas: is there's a line for "nvidia", change it to "vesa", i think
[07:40] <Jordan_U> mmcji: Run "sudo apt-get -f install" or use gdebi instead of using dpkg directly.
[07:40] <genewitch> masen: i did that i will test it later. thanks a ton :-)
[07:40] <masen> good luck
[07:40] <sas> Get it confirm and guide me, or I send you the full output
[07:40] <elementzero> huh?
[07:40] <mmcji> i already know the application runs fine with a force install, but i would rather create a few symlinks to fool the install process.  My question is , what am i creating the symlink to.  I have tried 'ln -s /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-2.so.17 /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-2.so.11' but that did not work
[07:41] <mmcji> yes apt-get -f install works, but that messes up apt-get
[07:41] <lousygarua> hello [10.04], for some reason my indicator applet on the panel disappeared, so I had to add it again, but this time the space between its icons is big and it takes a lot of space on my small laptop's display :( http://i.imgur.com/8xI4Y.png
[07:41] <wasnik> Gnea: no such file or directory
[07:42] <sas> elementzero: I have that xorg.conf read only file open!
[07:42] <Gnea> wasnik: I'm going to ask you one last time: what is the make and model of your netbook?
[07:42] <Tweaky> lousygarua: mine is the same way now that you mention it
[07:42] <headkase314> !panels | lousygarua
[07:42] <elementzero> sas: does it say "nvidia" anywhere?
[07:42] <sas> yes a lot of places
[07:42] <elementzero> change them all to vesa
[07:43] <elementzero> that's as far as i got in my struggles
[07:43] <lousygarua> headkase314: will it unset all my current panel customizations?
[07:43] <sas> will that work?
[07:43] <headkase314> lousygarua, yes
[07:43] <NoTownKasper> lousygarua: Yeah, it will.
[07:43] <elementzero> changing them to vesa and saving should get you off of the nvidia drivers
[07:43] <lousygarua> headkase314: :(
[07:43] <lousygarua> headkase314: j/k :)
[07:43] <mmcji> or is there a way to do a force install where deps are not checked.  sort of like a --no-deps with rpm
[07:43] <elementzero> then you can try to uninstall them somehow
[07:43] <wasnik> Gnea: Its a compaq presario f755us. i am sorry earlier i hade got confused thatu were askin me the version of the ubumntu netbook sofrware i installed
[07:43] <sas> I will check it
[07:43] <elementzero> and then figure out what the best are
[07:43] <elementzero> i dunno how to find out what drivers i'm using. neuveau, maybe?
[07:43] <elementzero> mouveau
[07:43] <Tweaky> lousygarua: i just moved mine around and its all compacted now
[07:43] <elementzero> nouveau..
[07:44] <Jordan_U> mmcji: What do you mean by "messes up apt-get"?
[07:44] <Jordan_U> mmcji: -f with apt-get does not stand for "force" btw, it stands for "fix".
[07:45] <elementzero> "nouveau 467048 0 - Live 0xf8e8a000" I assume this is my video card driver
[07:45] <EdMoney> im having problems install ubuntu 10.04.01 on my Vaio 64 bit machine
[07:45] <Gnea> wasnik: well, you see, here's the thing... netbook remix is made for netbooks, not standard laptops
[07:45] <lousygarua> Tweaky: will try that, thanks
[07:45] <abhijit> !details | EdMoney
[07:45] <EdMoney> neither installing from disc, or trying ubuntu as a program within windows is working
[07:45] <wasnik> Gnea: so what should i do
[07:45] <mas> ev_calibrate donts works on lucid
[07:46] <elementzero> i tried ubuntu netbook, chrome os, and meego
[07:46] <Gnea> wasnik: install ubuntu
[07:46] <elementzero> meego was the best, but they all lacked desktops which made me unhappy
[07:46] <mmcji> cool, i did not know -f was fix.  after doing the -f install, if i then try to run apt-get update, i get a message that i need to run apt-get -f install with out a packege specified to correct a package problem.  If I do that, it wants to remove lotus notes.
[07:46] <wasnik> Gnea: is theer no way to fix the sound
[07:46] <brime> hello
[07:47] <Gnea> wasnik: do you think I'm leading you on a path to where sound wouldn't work?
[07:47] <mmcji> if I could exclude notes from being managed by dpkg that would be great.
[07:47] <mas> why the microphone donts works in the samsung q1 ultra and hp dv 2000 with ubuntu 10.04????
[07:47] <marekw2143> hi, from command line, how to check which version of soft will be installed with apt-get install?
[07:47] <brime> what happened to the login manager?
[07:47] <EdMoney> abhijit: at first, ubuntu would freeze up and nothing would happen, they I tried choosing the language on install and then installing with nomodeset, and then like 45 minutes the install would crap out
[07:48] <brime> I can't change anything in it anymore... :(
[07:48] <JoeMaverickSett> !details | brime
[07:48] <mmcji> I would not be using lotus notes, but it is a req at work, and we have a bunch users at work that use ubuntu as our workstations so I want that to continue.
[07:48] <RealOpty> NoTownKasper, yeah what about rhythmbox though. I have a remote and such, i want to use lirc
[07:48] <wasnik> Gnea: Just that I have spent so much time installin netbook ubuntu. I was curious if i could just fix the sound on this version itself
[07:48] <abhijit> !hardware | EdMoney from this link and from release notes be sure that your hardware is supported is knows to be working in ubuntu
[07:49] <EdMoney> ubottu, thanks much
[07:49] <masen> marekw2143: apt-get -sV install <pkg_name>
[07:49] <Gnea> wasnik: you'd spend less time and avoid more headaches by installing the standard version of ubuntu
[07:49] <marekw2143> masen: thx
[07:49] <masen> marekw2143: -s = simulate, -V = show version numbers
[07:49] <Gnea> wasnik: plus you've got a 64bit system, so get the 64bit while you're at it
[07:49] <brime> ok i want to setup xdmcp on a ubuntu 10.04 server and i cant seem to find the login manager to enable this
[07:49] <brime> did it get removed?
[07:50] <Samekh> hello
[07:50] <Samekh> Does anyone here have experience with ntop?
[07:50] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: Honestly, I don't remember how I configured it...but it will require some configuring and playing around with the program I mentioned.
[07:50] <wasnik> Gnea: oh is my system 64 bit I think i felt it was just 32 bit
[07:50] <Samekh> I'd really, really appreciate some help
[07:50] <abhijit> !ask | Samekh
[07:50] <masen> marekw2143: for future reference, everything a command can do (usually) can be read on the man page. for instance: man apt-get
[07:50] <Gnea> wasnik: google it.
[07:51] <marekw2143> masen: yeah, I know that
[07:51] <Samekh> !ask | Samekh
[07:51] <Gnea> wasnik: the amd turion 64 is a, well, 64bit cpu
[07:51] <abhijit> !bot > Samekh
[07:51] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: And I think the controller/mouse needs to be hardwired into the system for omnijoy or whatever it's called to work...if you have a real remove, I can't help ya.
[07:51] <wasnik> Gnea: So why is the ubuntu website saying 32 bit is recommended for most users
[07:51] <NoTownKasper> *remote
[07:52] <Gnea> wasnik: well, it does require that you use your head for yourself, to some extent :)
[07:52] <Jordan_U> wasnik: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/585940
[07:52] <NoTownKasper> wasnik: Because 64 bit isn't as compatible with most common programs, requires special configuration to run 32 bit apps and is un-necessary for most daily, desktop user's usual tasks. :P
[07:53] <MissingPerson> I'm having some problems with wicd.  It will not connect any devices or really even load at all.  On startup, it asks for my admin password to access my devices, which it never did, then it doesn't load.
[07:53] <zipp> hello
[07:53] <zipp> I got problem with java anyone can help
[07:53] <Jordan_U> !anyone | zipp
[07:54] <Samekh> I cannot get ntop to listen on my destination (mirrored port) properly - I use to command line switch -i eth1 and ntop loads with a list of 5 devices including the switch and bridges - how do I get it to listen on eth1 properly? Wireshark confirms that this port is operating as expected and wireshark is functioning properly
[07:54] <MissingPerson> Also,  it says when it finally tries to load (after trying to start it 15000 times), that it will not load due to errors logged in wicd.log
[07:54] <MissingPerson> when i access that file, it says that there are errors in wicd.conf among various other things
[07:54] <JoeMaverickSett> brime: i think you should take a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes#GDM does not support XDMCP
[07:54] <MissingPerson> i'm currently on my livecd
[07:54] <Samekh> Selecting interface eth0 shows me -some- traffic
[07:54] <wasnik> NoTownKasper: But running a 32 bit ubuntu version on 64  bit is not goin to cause errors right
[07:54] <Samekh> i.e. local traffic
[07:55] <zipp> some chatting applications won't work with openjava and I decided to install the closed one, I install it make linking but it won't work
[07:55] <NoTownKasper> wasnik: Not at all. Your processer architecture isn't the determining factor. You'll be fine running 32bit on a 64bit processor system.
[07:55] <abhijit> Samekh, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ntop
[07:55] <JoeMaverickSett> brime: go to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes and scroll down to section: GDM does not support XDMCP
[07:55] <masen> Jordan_U: is it just me or do a lot "non-critical" bugs go unfixed or even ignored by the ubuntu devs
[07:56] <RealOpty> NoTownKasper, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1066766
[07:57] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: That problem is out of my league. I'm sorry.
 the stupid cursor theme compiz bug is the most ridiculous unfixed bug i've seen so far on launchpad. It's a one line fix, super simple even posted on the page...nothing for months...still not fixed </rant>
[07:57] <brime> JoeMaverickSett: thank you...
[07:57] <Samekh> abhijit, ntop is installed and running - this page, unfortunately, does not tell you how to properly select and configure a different interface
[07:57] <brime> Its odd that the GDM has lost features...
[07:57] <Jordan_U> masen: I think ignored isn't the right word as there are simply to many bug reports and not enough developers/triager. But yes, it's unfortunately common for minor bugs to go unfixed. If you'd like to talk about it more join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:57] <abhijit> Samekh, hmm
[07:57] <MissingPerson> 'm having some problems with wicd.  It will not connect any devices or really even load at all.  On startup, it asks for my admin password to access my devices, which it never did, then it doesn't load.  Also,  it says when it finally tries to load (after trying to start it 15000 times), that it will not load due to errors logged in wicd.log -- when i access that file, it says that there are errors in wicd.conf among various
[07:58] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: Might want to try the fix on that same thread you posted to me though...might help. :P
[07:58] <MissingPerson> can anyone help me fix this from here?
[07:58] <RealOpty> NoTownKasper, ????
[07:58] <Jordan_U> masen: And even non-minor ones :0
[07:58] <archstanton43> can anyone tell me how support is licensed on vmware?
[07:58] <abhijit> archstanton43, ask in #vmware
[07:58] <evilaim> Hey, I need help bad:)
[07:59] <archstanton43> if i want enterprise support do i purchase by cpu core or machine?
[07:59] <Jordan_U> archstanton43: Try ##vmware, or call their support services.
[07:59] <abhijit> !ask | evilaim
[07:59] <mmcji> yes what abhijit said
[07:59] <masen> MissingPerson: try wiping out your config file (after backing it up of course) and start over
[07:59] <evilaim> How do I lock a user in the /home/tekky folder?
[07:59] <archstanton43> abhijit why?
[07:59] <evilaim> User tekky should stay in /home/tekky.  Can't cd .. out
[07:59] <wasnik> NoTownKasper: and i should go for the desktop edition right. (Generally desktop is different from laptop in daily usage)
[07:59] <abhijit> archstanton43, there are people with knowledge about vmware. they can guide you better than here
[07:59] <MissingPerson> masen: would it be easier just to reinstall wicd with aptitude and start over?
[07:59] <archstanton43> abhijit im asking about ubuntu support on vmware
[07:59] <Samekh> :(
[08:00] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: You said you wanted to use your remote with Rhythmbox right? Well, that same thread had a fix for making a remote work with Rhythmbox using lirc.
[08:00] <JoeMaverickSett> MissingPerson: you might want to take a look at this: http://www.go2linux.org/ERROR-dbus-proxies-Introspect-error-exception-org-freedesktop-wicd
[08:00] <venky10> evilaim: you need to sandbox the user
[08:00] <wieshka> grrrr .... ok folks - lets figure out last time about Ubuntu Desktop + RAID 1 + LVM
[08:00] <abhijit> archstanton43, ammm then repharse your question properly
[08:00] <evilaim> I've change the chroot.conf
[08:00] <abhijit> Samekh, i dont know further
[08:00] <wieshka> so do i have to make /boot partition out of raid ?
[08:00] <evilaim> I added: tekky /home/tekky
[08:00] <evilaim> and he can still cd ..
[08:00] <NoTownKasper> wasnik: I'd go for desktop. Unless of course you're using a laptop machine. :P
[08:00] <evilaim> and get to the root and such
[08:00] <abhijit> archstanton43, you want support for ubuntu or support for vmware?
[08:00] <masen> MissingPerson: yes, but make sure you do a apt-get --purge remove wicd
[08:00] <evilaim> but we've disabled the ls from /home so he can't see other users
[08:00] <archstanton43> abhijit im being told that its cheaper to go with suse than ubuntu
[08:00] <masen> MissingPerson: that way your old config gets deleted too
[08:01] <masen> MissingPerson: then just install normally
[08:01] <archstanton43> abhijit i i am going to host the distros on vmware and have enterprise support?
[08:01] <abhijit> archstanton43, if you are looking for professional support for ubuntu then contact canonical
[08:01] <wasnik> NoTownKasper: I am using a laptop.
[08:01] <RealOpty> NoTownKasper, lol i know that. i was just pointing it out, i found the answer to my question.
[08:01] <abhijit> archstanton43, you you will get the details from them. www.canonical.com
[08:01] <wasnik> NoTownKasper: is teher a special version for laptops
[08:01] <MissingPerson> masen: ok...how do i do this from the livecd on my actual install?
[08:01] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: OH! Duh, I'm sleepy...sorry about that.
[08:02] <archstanton43> abhijit ive looked does no one know the licensing model for enterprise support on here?
[08:02] <wieshka> So i am going to install Ubuntu Desktop 10.04 from alternative install CD and i have some misundertandings now: 1) do i have to make /boot partition out of RAID 1 array, or i have to make it as splitted RAID 1 array ?
[08:02] <RealOpty> NoTownKasper, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/276401
[08:02] <venky10> evilaim: http://www.unixwiz.net/techtips/chroot-practices.html
[08:02] <NoTownKasper> wasnik: I'd still go with desktop the installer should auto-detect all the specifics you'd need for a laptop install. Unless you're using a netbook, in which case, I don't know.
[08:02] <wieshka> 2) do i have to give a boot flag to any of partitions ?
[08:02] <skywalkgr> hello to every1
[08:02] <abhijit> archstanton43, all here are volenteers. not officla canonical person. you need to talk to officials of canonical regarding this. so contact them
[08:02] <masen> MissingPerson: i'm not sure from a live cd, is there a reason you can't do it from your install?
[08:03] <wasnik> NoTownKasper:Thanks for the help
[08:03] <MissingPerson> masen: well, there is the fact that i can't connect to the internet because wicd farted out :-P
[08:03] <lorenzosu> Hi all. I have automatically mounted two samba shares, but when I open files from there they are read-only.
[08:03] <skywalkgr> who has a few minutes to help me please?
[08:03] <evilaim> haha
[08:03] <evilaim> that just looks confusing
[08:03] <abhijit> !ask > skywalkgr
[08:03] <NoTownKasper> wasnik: Actually, if you're using a netbook, there's a specific install for that, but I'd still go with a desktop package unless it's specifically a netbook.
[08:03] <caken> i was install lucid lynx in my laptop. but my laptop's wireless device wont active. it wont work just like before.
[08:04] <WXZ> I can't open the repository
[08:04] <WXZ> it says my sources.list file is malformed
[08:04] <WXZ> how can I fix that?
[08:04] <masen> MissingPerson: do you have your ubuntu cd?
[08:04] <KiNk> Go and set up you wireless drivers
[08:04] <evilaim> venky10, this is how to avoid it...
[08:04] <masen> dumb question
[08:04] <archstanton43> abhijit shame
[08:04] <masen> sorry
[08:04] <abhijit> archstanton43, excuse me?
[08:04] <evilaim> No way of this being easier?
[08:04] <MissingPerson> masen, well, i use linux mint, but i'm on my mint install cd right now
[08:05] <skywalkgr> i have a copy of 10.04 (x64) but i cannot install into my desktop, today i bought a new hard disk (totally empty) and still cant find a solution
[08:05] <Jordan_U> wieshka: No, unless you have a really buggy BIOS the boot flag is just ignored when using grub.
[08:05] <masen> MissingPerson: do the remove without internet. make sure in your software sources you have the cd checked. then afterward (temporarily) apt-get install network-manager network-manager-gnome
[08:05] <wieshka> Jordan_U: the problem is that again my install does not works properly
[08:06] <Jordan_U> wieshka: In what way?
[08:06] <masen> MissingPerson: that should install the basic netman from the cd, then you'll be able to get access to reinstall wicd
[08:06] <NoTownKasper> My problem: Ubuntu 10.04, samba is installed, I can share folders on my end and the other machines on the network can see me, and see the shared folders, but cannot access them.
[08:06] <venky10> evilaim: Its how to do  chroot right so that its hard to get out
[08:06] <masen> masen: alternatively, you could download wicd .deb packages, do the remove, then reinstall the packages offline
[08:06] <venky10> evilaim: I assumed you have the chroot setup
[08:06] <evilaim> kk
[08:06] <wieshka> Jordan_U: no matter - i now want to reinstall last time - so can you explain me in short how you would make RAID 1 + LVM
[08:06] <evilaim> setup?
[08:07] <wieshka> for ubuntu 10.04 desktop
[08:07] <MissingPerson> that's probably the easiest for me most likely is the .deb option
[08:07] <RealOpty> NoTownKasper, anyways that first link solved my issues. remotes working now.
[08:07] <perezfam> I am trying to get a canon 210 lide usb scanner recognised by sane on ubuntu 10.04 but no luck yet.  Any guide or "how to" install this canon scanner?
[08:07] <masen> MissingPerson: it was an afterthought...but definitely the simplest option
[08:07] <wasnik> NoTownKasper: But would uploadin a netbook bersion of ubuntu on a laptop actually mess up the sound
[08:08] <Jordan_U> !pm | wieshka
[08:08] <MissingPerson> thanks masen
[08:08] <NoTownKasper> wasnik: It might. That's why I suggested a desktop install for a regular laptop.
[08:08] <masen> np, good luck w/ that
[08:08] <skywalkgr> any1?
[08:08] <wieshka> Jordan_U: okey :)
[08:08] <WXZ> E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[08:08] <armyriad> What is the name of the GUI tool that comes up when one goes to System -> Administration -> Users and Groups?
[08:08] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: Glad to hear it. :)
[08:08] <WXZ> what can I do about that?
[08:08] <abhijit> skywalkgr, is it giving any error?
[08:08] <kalle_> notown sound like u havent got the permissions right, make sure the user logging in to samba is allowed to access the folders
[08:09] <abhijit> armyriad, users-admin
[08:09] <skywalkgr> i am starting the installer (icon on the desktop) and at STEP 4 where you make the partitions there IS NO partitions there
[08:09] <JoeMaverickSett> WXZ: read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1053796.html
[08:09] <NoTownKasper> kalle_: Perms on the folders are open to everyone.
[08:09] <skywalkgr> if i press forward it says "no root partition defined" or something like that
[08:09] <kalle_> have u added the external user to a list also ?
[08:10] <caken> Jordan_U, i was install lucid lynx in my laptop. but wireless device in it wont work just like before.
[08:10] <goddard> i want notepad++ for ubuntu
[08:10] <armyriad> abhijit: Thanks.
[08:10] <caken> Jordan_U, any idea?
[08:10] <JoeMaverickSett> WXZ: you can comment out that line with gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:10] <KiNk> Have you install the wireless drivers????
[08:10] <NoTownKasper> kalle_: What list? The folders are open to everyone.
[08:10] <abhijit> skywalkgr, i think you are trying since yesterday. try getting help from you local linux users group mailing list or forums
[08:10] <kalle_> I think "everyone" is only those registered on your system not external users
[08:10] <abhijit> armyriad, welcome.
[08:10] <WXZ> ummm, which line?
[08:11] <caken> Jordan_U, i trying to fix it but i have stuck enough. need your help
[08:11] <NoTownKasper> kalle_: No no, I mean the folders are set for guess access, meaning people who aren't members of a group on my machine.
[08:11] <JoeMaverickSett> WXZ: line 54 as stated in your error.
[08:11] <[thor]> haha no kidding
[08:11] <skywalkgr> sorry it says "no root filesystem is defined , please correct this from partitioning menu."
[08:11] <[thor]> gah.. i get to do robot repair tomorrow
[08:11] <Jordan_U> wieshka: This will be a long comment so tell me if it gets cut off. You should have two partitions on each disk, both of them raid members. The first partitions should be used to create /dev/md0, which should then be formatted ext3/4 (make sure there is no partition table, you do *not* want a /dev/md0p1). Then the second partitions should be used to create /dev/md1, then you should use LVM on top of /dev/md1 and make your root filesystem and swap out of the
[08:12] <abhijit> armyriad, to check any such gui tool first open system monitor from system->administration then go to processes tab and then run that program you want to find name of
[08:12] <WXZ> that's not going to make the rest of it messed up?
[08:12] <mas> where are the archlinux chat?
[08:12] <kalle_> hm I think there is some settings u need to tweak in the samba config file, i dont remember which ones tho, long time since i setup samba
[08:12] <abhijit> skywalkgr,  this error is getting as you jump inside partitioning dialoge or after setting up all partitions?
[08:12] <wieshka> Jordan_U: - ok i will give  try to mirrored /boot partition as md0
[08:12] <rww> mas: #archlinux
[08:12] <elementzero> so
[08:13] <elementzero> xchat doesn't like to save my username settings?
[08:13] <JoeMaverickSett> WXZ: i think no. you just have to put # infront of that particular line. i did that before, it didn't mess up anything.
[08:13] <WXZ> ok
[08:13] <JoeMaverickSett> WXZ: did you read:http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1053796.html
[08:13] <WXZ> didn't get a chance yet
[08:13] <skywalkgr> do i have to setup the partitions before running the installer? from gparted for example? i thought the installer would do that for me automatically
[08:13] <JoeMaverickSett> WXZ: you better do.
[08:13] <WXZ> alright
[08:14] <WXZ> since you said that in such a threatening tone, I might as well
[08:14] <WXZ> might as well = kind of have to
[08:14] <abhijit> skywalkgr, you can set them run time. i.e. after executing the installer
[08:14] <EdMoney> if i install ubuntu from disc on my windows machine, will i have the option of how big to make the ubuntu partition or does the install wipe windows off my machine?
[08:14] <wieshka> Jordan_U: do i have to give boot flag option for partitions sda1 & sdb1 - what stands for /boot ?
[08:14] <JoeMaverickSett> goddard: you could try gedit as an alternative for notepad++
[08:14] <TraumaPony> My kernel is completely broken (kernel panic on boot), due to a bad compile. What do I have to do to boot in a live cd and re-download the exact kernel I was using previously?
[08:14] <wieshka> or they should be autodetected ?
[08:14] <kalle_> also did you chmod the rights for the folders ? not just setup in samba ? if only root can access then no "guest" user can access
[08:14] <abhijit> skywalkgr, just try this - first have a free space from gparted and then try to run install process and then select that free space for your partitions
[08:14] <kibibyte> Edgan, your winows is safe
[08:15] <kibibyte> sorry
[08:15] <JoeMaverickSett> WXZ: i wasn't threating you, it was just a mere suggestion. :)
[08:15] <skywalkgr> will do that thank you :)
[08:15] <Jordan_U> EdMoney: You will have an option to install side by side, choosing how much space you want to allocate to each OS.
[08:15] <kibibyte> EdMoney,
[08:15] <lousygarua> Anyone has an idea why my links (such as urls in pidgin/evolution) open with the command /usr/lib/firefox-3.5/firefox (which is symlink to /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.10/firefox) although my version (as mentioned) is 3.6.10 and not 3.5? this is annoying to set manually everytime firefox updates as the update breaks the symlink (3.6.10 changes to 3.6.11 for example)
[08:15] <kalle_> you can do a dir-all to see the permissions on the folders
[08:16] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Unless you have a really buggy BIOS, no. But at the same time it doesn't hurt anything either.
[08:16] <EdMoney> is there any real downside to running Karmic Koala instead of Lucid Lynx? Lucid Lynx is not installing properly for some reason. I'm installing Ubuntu to do development with python, postgresql, etc...
[08:16] <htorque> hello everyone! if a superseded package is marked as "deleted from disk" in LP, i can no longer get it via apt-get, right?
[08:17] <abhijit> EdMoney, choose the os or version whichever works for you
[08:17] <wieshka> Jordan_U: huh - now my partitions with type raid shows up in raid configurtion in wrong ways - it shows only the size
[08:17] <wieshka> no path
[08:17] <wieshka> so raid cannot be created succesfully
[08:17] <tensorpudding> EdMoney: what's the install problem?
[08:17] <wieshka> i already tried to reload tables
[08:17] <abhijit> htorque, try in #launchpad
[08:17] <NoTownKasper> kalle_: According to the properties everyone can access and modify the folder.
[08:18] <smartviking> How can i create raid on one hardisk with two partitions?
[08:18] <abhijit> !raid | smartviking
[08:18] <smartviking> ubottu: ty
[08:18] <smartviking> ubottu: -.-
[08:18] <abhijit> :/
[08:18] <Jordan_U> smartviking: That's generally not very usefull, and will likely be very slow.
[08:19] <smartviking> oh lol, abhijit Youre the one, thanks xD
[08:19] <tensorpudding> RAID on one hard disk? How is that at all useful?
[08:19] <abhijit> smartviking, :)
[08:19] <NoTownKasper> kalle_: Interesting though, I have two config programs for samba now. shares-admin and system-config-samba and the outputs from them don't match...
[08:19] <smartviking> Jordan_U: Yeah, i'm just curious about how to do that :)
[08:19] <EdMoney> tensorpudding: i cant remember the exact install error i was getting yesterday, but something in a forum said try to install in nomodeset, that didnt work either, and then i tried using Wubi, it would install but then nothing would happen
[08:19] <TraumaPony> My kernel is completely broken (kernel panic on boot), due to a bad compile. What do I have to do to boot in a live cd and re-download the exact kernel I was using previously?
[08:20] <Jordan_U> TraumaPony: Hold shift during boot and just select your old kernel (unless you removed it).
[08:20] <tensorpudding> EdMoney: You are already using Karmic?
[08:21] <TraumaPony> Jordan_U: It too is broken from something unrelated
[08:21] <kalle_> notownkasper: hm sound suspicious, are they both active or just one of them ? perhaps you can check which one responds to the active settings
[08:21] <EdMoney> tensorpudding: i was trying lynx first, hoping to get an easy install with Karmic
[08:21] <Jordan_U> TraumaPony: Are you familiar with chroot?
[08:21] <tensorpudding> EdMoney: It's not likely that Karmic will install and Lucid will not, except in the case of a hardware-specific regression
[08:22] <JoeMaverickSett> TraumaPony: take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157250
[08:22] <TraumaPony> Jordan_U: Yeah, I'm just not sure what exactly I need to mount etc
[08:22] <NoTownKasper> kalle_: It appears that only one is actually accessinig samba shares, shares-admin is listing my NFS shares...and since I don't have any configured...it's empty. lol
[08:22] <Maahes> anyone have any information about securing a liveusb install? That is, replacing gdm's insistence on the "nopassword" user group, and replacing the ubuntu user?
[08:22] <EdMoney> tensorpudding: what do you suggest I do? retry installing from lucid and documenting all of the errors?
[08:23] <lousygarua> ok fixed, my preferred application for web was a custom command instead of being firefox
[08:23] <htorque> abhijit, thanks, found it out myself: if LP says "Removed from disk" then you cannot get it anymore via apt
[08:23] <abhijit> !yay | htorque
[08:24] <Jordan_U> TraumaPony: Mount your root filesystem to /mnt/ (the mountpoint doesn't really matter) and if you have a separate /boot then mount it to /mnt/boot/ then run "sudo mount -o bind /dev/ /mnt/dev/ && sudo mount -o bind /proc/ /mnt/proc/ && sudo mount -o bind /sys/ /mnt/sys/ && sudo chroot /mnt/"
[08:24] <abhijit> :)
[08:24] <wieshka> Jordan_U: is it possible that i had that partition p1 becouse it shows up unusable sapce on raid array ?
[08:24] <Jordan_U> wieshka: I don't understand the question.
[08:24] <wieshka> Jordan_U: i also :D whatever - going further
[08:26] <TraumaPony> Jordan_U: Thanks, I'll try it
[08:26] <Jordan_U> TraumaPony: You're welcome.
[08:26] <TraumaPony> JoeMaverickSett: Thanks too
[08:27] <JoeMaverickSett> TraumaPony: you are welcome! :)
[08:27] <cteja> Hello canu add me na
[08:27] <rww> what
[08:29] <wieshka> Jordan_U: so now i have RAID1 array md0 - size 512 Mb, file system ext3, mountpoint /boot, and also i have RAID 1 array md1, in size of 499 Gb ... but it also shos 983 kb as unusable space - maybe this was that extra partition what i had before ?
[08:29] <wieshka> in raid1 array i made LVM with wo logical volumes
[08:29] <wieshka> two
[08:31] <Jordan_U> wieshka: That's probably just unused space on between the partitions on the disk itself for alignment reasons of some sort. I wouldn't worry about it (and no that wouldn't cause the raid device to show up as partitioned, that requires explicitly creating a partition table).
[08:32] <wieshka> Jordan_U: ok - now installing already a base system
[08:32] <wieshka> lets see how it will work
[08:32] <wieshka> Jordan_U: jo prefer GRUB2 or LILO ?
[08:32] <Jordan_U> wieshka: GRUB2
[08:34] <ptman> I have a laptop with a bad cdrom drive. The ubuntu install cd boots, but mid-installation some checksums fail. Is it possible to put the iso image on the hard drive and tell the installer to use that? The laptop doesn't seem to be able to boot from USB
[08:35] <kapace_> hello, my friend was just installing ubuntu desktop and all of a sudden in the middle of the installation, his computer went to sleep!
[08:36] <Maahes> anyone have any information about securing a liveusb install? That is, replacing gdm's insistence on the "nopassword" user group, and replacing the ubuntu user?
[08:37] <fghf> I have a touch screen laptop and my mouse keeps going to the top of the screen and is like clicking and holding, how do I make this stop????, by the way the touch screen is working but only with the pen.
[08:38] <Jordan_U> ptman: Yes, pass the parameter "iso/scan-filename=/path/to/iso/file" to the kernel parameters.
[08:38] <kapace_> is the install suppose to let sleep mode happen?
[08:38] <abhijit> kapace_, no
[08:39] <ptman> Jordan_U, and what should the parameter be, since no filesystems are mounted while in the bootloader?
[08:39] <kapace_> what could have he done to let sleep mode take over?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> ptman: The initramfs will mount all partitions on all devices and check each for a file matching the path you give.
[08:40] <juk> does empathy store passwords in plains as pidgin does?
[08:40] <abhijit> bye all! have a good day!
[08:43] <Jordan_U> ptman: If you want to install to that same hard drive, and you have more than 1 GIG of RAM, you'll want to also add the "toram" kernel parameter. toram will load the ISO completely into RAM so that the parition containing the iso doesn't need to stay mounted during the install process.
[08:44] <JoeMaverickSett> kapace_: i think you should take a look at this: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9841248
[08:45] <sas> hi all; issue with wlan connections; always i get the bad password and the pass is ok
[08:45] <kapace_> JoeMaverickSett, ok thanks, ill tell him
[08:46] <JoeMaverickSett> kapace_: you are welcome. if it doesn't solve the problem, you can always come back to this channel for more help/info.
[08:47] <xjkx> ever since i connect/reconnect or reboot, my dns is reseted to the ip of my modem, but that makes the internet slow, i want to put a specific dns, where do i configure ? it doesn't matter if I edit /etc/resolv.conf it will be reseted. also, pppoeconf is not an option anymore since I upgraded to another ISP that now configuring internet to work is about set the modem ip as router and thats it, i wonder what software is running and editting my resolv.conf and h
[08:50] <MissingPerson> Does anyone know how i can install from aptitude from a livecd to my native install? i can't install wicd from my native install as i had to uninstall it due to problems, and it has dependencies that dpkg tries to go to the internet for.  so i need to do it this way
[08:51] <JoeMaverickSett> xjkx: you might want to take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1565472&postcount=33
[08:53] <xjkx> JoeMaverickSett: thanks
[08:53] <ptman> Jordan_U, that alone didn't seem to do it, it still tries to load from the cdrom (which I use to boot)
[08:53] <JoeMaverickSett> xjkx: you're welcome. hope it works out for you! :)
[08:54] <MissingPerson> Does anyone know how i can install from aptitude from a livecd to my native install? i can't install wicd from my native install as i had to uninstall it due to problems, and it has dependencies that dpkg tries to go to the internet for.  so i need to do it this way
[08:55] <Jordan_U> ptman: It might only look for the iso if it doesn't find an Ubuntu CD in the drive (this option is normally used without a burned CD at all).
[08:55] <thelastwolf> ???
[08:55] <ptman> I tried taking the cd out after the initrd had loaded, didn't help
[08:55] <JoeMaverickSett> MissingPerson: i think you can do that if you go to System> Software Sources> *tab* Ubuntu Software Sources and click on install from CD/DVD
[08:56] <ptman> Jordan_U, would you happen to know where the installer mounts the iso? I could just do that by hand from the terminal
[08:56] <thelastwolf> any one in china?
[08:56] <Jordan_U> ptman: You could boot with Super GRUB2 Disk instead. If you put the iso file in a directory named "/boot-isos" (in the root of the partition) then it will even detect it and set it up to boot automatically (though you'll need to add "toram" if you want to use that).
[08:56] <MissingPerson> JoeMaverickSett: Tried to do that, it will not install from CD for me.  It just keeps telling me to insert CD/DVD to install from CD/DVD despite the fact that i had my install disc inserted
[08:56] <t3cki3> hey guys i just need help with samba (just wanted to know if we change the password for a user) who is added to samba wht happens to his samba password
[08:56] <giantpune> i am looking to support ext3/4 in a program i have.  is there a portable ext3/4 library floating around anywhere that i may use as a base?
[08:57] <t3cki3> does it get synced with that persons account
[08:57] <MissingPerson> so what I am needing is to enter terminal from my live disc and install onto my HD install from here
[08:57] <magnetron> t3cki3: samba supports a multitue of different password databases, depends on which one you use
[08:57] <JoeMaverickSett> MissingPerson: how about *tab* Other Software Sources then ADD Cd-rom? have you tried that?
[08:57] <t3cki3> magentron: smbpassword
[08:58] <t3cki3> i mean smbpasswd
[08:58] <Jordan_U> ptman: It mounts the iso to /cdrom, then mounts the squashfs within /cdrom to /rofs, then mounts a tmpfs (can't remember what mount point) and then mounts a unionfs of /rofs and the tmpfs as the root filesystem.
[08:59] <t3cki3> sudo smbpasswd -a "user"
[08:59] <ShredMaster> Isn't UBUNTU a LINUX?
[08:59] <MissingPerson> JoeMaverickSett: Tried that, and after 4 times of waiting for my livecd to load after trying certain things, asking for help, shutting down livecd, going back to native install, it not working, going back into livecd again, i'd rather just get into my HD build from here to install since i do have network connectivity from livecd
[08:59] <ptman> Jordan_U, argh, better try super grub2 disk then
[09:00] <JoeMaverickSett> MissingPerson: i'm sorry i couldn't help you more. you could probably wait for someone with more skills than me to help you. [that is all i can do/know for you now.]
[09:00] <t3cki3> magnetron: anything ???
[09:01] <MissingPerson> ok, i'll repost then: Does anyone know how i can install from aptitude from a livecd to my native install? i can't install wicd from my native install as i had to uninstall it due to problems, and it has dependencies that dpkg tries to go to the internet for.  so i need to do it this way
[09:01] <t3cki3> can anyone help....?? i did a sudo smbpasswd -a "user" to add the user to samba.....
[09:01] <juk> ShredMaster/quit
[09:02] <t3cki3> not if i change that users password under normal mode, does his password for samba also change ?   or do i have to change that seperately
[09:02] <t3cki3> now if i change that users password under normal mode, does his password for samba also change ?   or do i have to change that seperately
[09:03] <lorenzosu> Hi all. I have automatically mounted two samba shares, but when I open files from there they are read-only. This is *not* through the nautilus "Network" interface.
[09:04] <madfox> lorenzosu modify your samba conf
[09:04] <lorenzosu> madfox, you mean server side?
[09:04] <madfox> lorenzosu you need to specify the shares as writeable server side
[09:05] <lorenzosu> madfox, I have no admin access to the servers: they're corporate.
[09:05] <lorenzosu> madfox, The strange thig is that if I connect to Places -> Network it works
[09:05] <madfox> lorenzosu well, then you dont exactly have any legal alternative outside of convincing them then.
[09:05] <madfox> lorenzosu so what?
[09:06] <madfox> lorenzosu *what be the problem?
[09:06] <kamiro87> Hello, Is there any way to gan any version of gcc-4.2 installed on ubuntu 10.04?
[09:06] <MissingPerson> Does anyone know how i can install from aptitude from a livecd to my native install? i can't install wicd from my native install as i had to uninstall it due to problems, and it has dependencies that dpkg tries to go to the internet for.  so i need to do it this way
[09:06] <meatbun> http://live.gnome.org/AlarmClock/Blueprints/BetterIcons
[09:07] <madfox> kamiro87 go to the gnu site and find the ftp section for their binutils and download the dated version, compile ect.
[09:07] <meatbun> is there a list, telling u what each icon mean?
[09:07] <t3cki3> thanks guys.. the password for samba syncs if i change the password for the  user... tested it sucessfully
[09:07] <t3cki3> magnetron: thanks for the help
[09:07] <madfox> meatbun have you tried going to the gnome site and finding out?
[09:07] <kamiro87> ah. ok.  i was hoping there was a shorter path but oh whell.
[09:08] <kamiro87> thanks
[09:08] <JoeMaverickSett> kamiro87: you could go to System > Synaptic Package Manager > Quick Search *gcc-4.2*
[09:08] <madfox> kamiro87 you can try an apt-get install gcc-4.2 though
[09:09] <kamiro87> i did that. says it has no installation candidate.
[09:09] <kamiro87> trying the quick search.
[09:09] <mungustas> apt-cache search gcc
[09:09] <mungustas> ?
[09:10] <mungustas> then aptitude install <gcc>
[09:10] <mungustas> the package you need :)
[09:10] <at05gt> not sure where to ask this question, is there a way to speed up the download speed of streamed videos in Firefox, specifically youtube videos.
[09:11] <Katsumi32> at05gt, i think no unless you upgrade isp
[09:11] <kamiro87> apt-cache search gcc4.* shows only 4.1 4.3 and 4.4
[09:11] <Jordan_U> at05gt: The bottleneck there is almost certainly your ISP connection. You can select lower qualities but that's about it.
[09:11] <at05gt> Katsumi32: i have 16Mb download speed I just tested
[09:12] <at05gt> and it takes like 10 minutes to stream a 6 minute 720p youtube clip, never had that issue in windows
[09:13] <Katsumi32> at05gt, have you tested your internet speed under ubuntu ? is it as fast as in windows?
[09:13] <at05gt> under ubuntu its faster
[09:13] <at05gt> windows i capped at 10 Mb
[09:13] <at05gt> ubuntu it hits 16
[09:13] <at05gt> yet youtube clips are slower now
[09:14] <Katsumi32> at05gt, so its issue not with ubuntu or internet connection just wih you tube
[09:14] <Katsumi32> the seerver you downloading from is slow thats why youe getting slow download
[09:14] <Tobear91> Bonjour, comment je me connect au chat francais svp ?
[09:15] <Katsumi32> Tobear91, yeah
[09:15] <at05gt> Katsumi32: i was using Firefox in windows and it was quick 10 min HD clip took maybe 2 mins to stream, with firefox in Ub it takes longer then the video runs for to stream it fully
[09:15] <Katsumi32> ubuntu-fr Tobear91
[09:15] <Tobear91> ubuntu-fr
[09:15] <rww> !fr | Tobear91
[09:15] <rww> Tobear91: /join #ubuntu-fr
[09:15] <mungustas> i think you cannot make stream videos, youtube faster ;)
[09:15] <Tobear91> rww, thx
[09:15] <Jordan_U> at05gt: What download speed do you get downloading this: http://preview.tinyurl.com/28688n7 ?
[09:16] <at05gt> Jordan_u: how do i test the speed of that, I usually go to Speedtest.net
[09:17] <mungustas> at05gt are you saying that all youtube videos work slower on ubuntu than windows?
[09:18] <JoeMaverickSett> at05gt: may be an old flash plugin?
[09:18] <at05gt> yes
[09:18] <at05gt> the flash plugin is up to date according to firefox
[09:18] <Jordan_U> at05gt: Try using Google Chrome / Firefox beta and http://youtube.com/html5
[09:18] <raven> firefox: keyword.URL=https://www.ixquick.de/do/metasearch.pl?query= how to make it behave like the google entry? e.g. redirection to wikipedia with "wiki keyword"
[09:19] <at05gt> chrome is slower then firefox
[09:19] <jatt> at05gt: nope
[09:19] <at05gt> it is on youtube
[09:19] <Jordan_U> at05gt: If html5 videos load faster than flash videos you know the problem lies somewhere with flash.
[09:19] <jatt> no
[09:19] <liamsmit1uk> at05gt: I have the same problem.... I use the html5 beta and it's fine ;)
[09:19] <jatt> firefox is slower than chrome
[09:20] <at05gt> maybe for you jatt but not for me
[09:21] <mih> hi guys, i have compiled dom0 kernel on Ubuntu 10.04, i have updated the grub, rebooted and i got "invalid magic number, you need to load kernel first"
[09:21] <mih> does somebody have a hint?
[09:21] <meatbun> madfox, yeah. nothibng
[09:22] <Katsumi32> liamsmit1uk,  at05gt i dont have any problems watching youtube etc its maybe cuz i live in developed country and everyone is getting about minimum 20MB/sec  my internet speed is 74mb/sec
[09:23] <Jordan_U> Katsumi32:
[09:23] <at05gt> Katsumi32: i live in the same country as you
[09:23] <Jordan_U> Katsumi32: Sorry, ignore that.
[09:23] <Katsumi32> at05gt, are you from greenland ?
[09:23] <at05gt> nvrmnd was reading off your whois
[09:23] <at05gt> greenland must go thru New Jersy
[09:23] <liamsmit1uk> Katsumi32: Bragging your internet speed doesn't solve at05gts problem..
[09:24] <mungustas> :)
[09:24] <liamsmit1uk> my internet is more than capable of full 1080p youtube, the problem for me is flash
[09:25] <kcinloc> hello, need quick help when u get into ubunt login screen and stat the program for boot, how do u quick load kernel mode or whatever its called
[09:25] <at05gt> im thinking the same on my end liam
[09:25] <at05gt> lemem try html5 and s
[09:25] <raven> firefox: keyword.URL=https://www.ixquick.de/do/metasearch.pl?query= how to make it behave like the google entry? e.g. redirection to wikipedia with "wiki keyword"
[09:25] <at05gt> ugh, lemme try html 5 and see what happens
[09:25] <mungustas> http://www.sync-blog.com/sync/2009/08/how-to-change-firefox-settings-to-improve-youtube-performance.html
[09:26] <Jordan_U> kcinloc: Could you repeat your question using full words / sentences?
[09:26] <Katsumi32> at05gt, what firefox do you have ?
[09:26] <kcinloc> no
[09:26] <Blackswordca> morning
[09:26] <at05gt> 3.6.10
[09:26] <at05gt> came installed with Lucid
[09:27] <Katsumi32> at05gt, try 3.6 there also is 3.7 and 4.0 different firefox ver work differently with flash so maybe it willl solve your problem
[09:27] <at05gt> ya ive got the html 5 one DLing and im checking out the link that mung gave
[09:28] <Jordan_U> at05gt: Try google chrome + html5 just to confirm / rule out the
[09:29] <Jordan_U> at05gt: Sorry, wrote that before you said you were already testing html5 and my cat jumped on the keyboard :)
[09:29] <at05gt> the issue is only with HD vids so far
[09:29] <at05gt> and chrome is slower then firefox when streaming on my system
[09:29] <lowks> i am using byobu in ubuntu
[09:29] <lowks> and f9 doesn't bring up the menu
[09:29] <lowks> what do i need to do to get the f9 menu ?
[09:29] <lowks> some kind library need to install
[09:29] <lowks> >?
[09:30] <Jordan_U> lowks: Do your function keys work with other applications? If not you may need to use FN+F9.
[09:30] <lowks> Jordan_U, on a normal keyboard (non laptop), Fn key == alt ?
[09:31] <at05gt> alright now im completely lost i downloaded firefox 4 and all i got was a folder
[09:31] <JoeMaverickSett> lowks: does it show <^a-@> at the right bottom? if so, do Ctrl+a then Shift+2.
[09:31] <Jordan_U> lowks: No, it's normally near alt though.
[09:31] <liamsmit1uk> lowks: a normal keyboard probably won't have fn
[09:31] <wieshka> Jordan_U: my installation started in degraded mode/busy box after a install
[09:31] <wieshka> how cool is that ? :D
[09:32] <lowks> well it tries to display the config tab but doesn't show up
[09:32] <Jordan_U> liamsmit1uk: lowks: All my keyboards have an FN key.
[09:32] <liamsmit1uk> Jordan_U: they tend to come on keyboards with special keys such as media controls etc
[09:33] <lowks> 2
[09:33] <lowks> 4567
[09:34] <lowks> nope nothing
[09:34] <tp43> is there any games like streetfighter or tekken available?
[09:34] <Jordan_U> lowks: Does F9 register properly in other applications?
[09:35] <lowks> Jordan_U, i think so
[09:35] <lowks> how to check ?
[09:37] <raven> firefox: keyword.URL=https://www.ixquick.de/do/metasearch.pl?query= how to make it behave like the google entry? e.g. redirection to wikipedia with "wiki keyword"
[09:37] <_aum> hello everyone, how do i know which modem i am using ie. /dev/??
[09:38] <Jordan_U> lowks: Run "xev" and press f9, xev should output (among other things) something like "(keysym 0xffc6, F9)".
[09:38] <fghf> how do i temporarly disable my tablet touch screen?
[09:38] <Iulia> hi all! Can someone please, recommend me a good program for making backups of my hdd? Thanks
[09:38] <wieshka> Jordan_U: by installing LVM on raid, it makes me 3 partitions for md1
[09:38] <bazhang> Iulia, sbackup clonezilla remastersys
[09:39] <wieshka> whats wrong with alternative install ?
[09:39] <lowks> Jordan_U, okay nothing shows up
[09:39] <fghf> how cool is that ? :D
[09:39] <Iulia> Thank you very much, bazhang.
[09:39] <fghf> [2010-32-17_02:32:18]	<lowks>	well it tries to display the config tab but doesn't show uphow cool is that ? :D
[09:39] <fghf> [2010-32-17_02:32:18]	<lowks>	well it tries to display the config tab but doesn't show uphow cool is that ? :D
[09:39] <fghf> [2010-32-17_02:32:18]	<lowks>	well it tries to display the config tab but doesn't show uphow cool is that ? :D
[09:39] <FloodBot3> fghf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:39] <bazhang> Iulia, welcome
[09:40] <Iulia> Last thing, someone knows a guide to help me protect a folder with password, please?
[09:40] <fghf> sorry
[09:40] <Karen_m> I'm receiving weird errors when trying to start up mysql: Sep 17 03:39:34 x kernel: [91066.362524] type=1503 audit(1284712774.747:66):  operation="mknod" pid=1537 parent=1 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" requested_mask="c::" denied_mask="c::" fsuid=0 ouid=0 name="/drive2/mysql/x.lower-test"
[09:40] <lowks> Iulia, trucrypt?
[09:40] <_aum> is there any way to know which modem i am using ie. /dev/??
[09:40] <Iulia> Ok, I will try it. Thanks
[09:41] <Jordan_U> lowks: What about other keys? Do you have the white xev window in focus when you press F9?
[09:41] <lowks> Jordan_U, yes
[09:42] <lowks> none of the f button seems to be working
[09:42] <lowks> funny thing tho f8 behave normally in my byobu
[09:43] <at05gt> well the fix that mungustas posted earlier worked, vids are streaming faster so thank you mungustas
[09:44] <lowks> think it's byobu because running byobu-config outside of byobu doesn't work too
[09:44] <lowks> trying to look for the snack module
[09:45] <caken> how to set a password for directory
[09:45] <caken> !password
[09:45] <caken> !directory
[09:46] <caken> !dir
[09:46] <caken> anyone know how to set a password to  directory
[09:46] <xbonesx> need help making ubuntu execute a script when it starts
[09:47] <tp43_> Hi, what are some good arcade games available for Ubuntu.  I found torcs, but I was wondering if anyone knew of any others, especially one like streetfighter, mortal combat and tekken
[09:48] <JoeMaverickSett> caken: i think you would want to take a look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37086 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1521113
[09:48] <xiaojiang> hi
[09:48] <pascal__> hi
[09:48] <xiaojiang> i am from china
[09:48] <JoeMaverickSett> !welcome | xiaojiang
[09:48] <xiaojiang> and you
[09:49] <xiaojiang> i am just install ubuntu
[09:49] <rww> !cn
[09:49] <pascal__> How do you find it?
[09:49] <xiaojiang> xchat
[09:49] <wieshka> looks like i will give up
[09:49] <pascal__> Why?
[09:49] <xiaojiang> are you from
[09:49] <wieshka> Jordan_U: installation was unsuccesfull
[09:50] <Aemaeth> I figured out a problem with my phone connection, is there an hardware database that i can enter my discovery into?
[09:50] <xiaojiang> pas
[09:50] <wieshka> PC starts in degraded mode after install
[09:50] <pascal__> Where did it stop?
[09:50] <bazhang> xiaojiang, do you have a support question? this is not a chat channel
[09:50] <ShredMaster> GP6 doesnot work in UBUNTU... anyone knows
[09:50] <pascal__> OK
[09:51] <pascal__> possibly the grafic card driver
[09:53] <xbonesx> anyone willing to help me get a script to run on startup?
[09:53] <zamba> rc.local
[09:54] <Brandano> xbonesx: on what startup? if you just want it to start as gnome does, you can just add it in startup programs
[09:54] <wieshka> xbonesx: search for rc.local or /etc/crontab @reboot
[09:54] <Brandano> otherwise you need an init script
[09:54] <wieshka> !details | Brandano
[09:55] <xbonesx> one sec ill show you what i have to do
[09:55] <ol1001> to ShredMaster: sudo dpkg -i getlibs-all.deb
[09:55] <JoeMaverickSett> ShredMaster: you might want to take a look at this: http://www.gprotab.net/forum/topic.php?id=2573
[09:56] <xbonesx> Brandano: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=fVpNBMqm
[09:56] <ShredMaster> oli001: I got erroe as 'not supported i38? '
[09:56] <xbonesx> i have created a script that will run this code
[09:57] <xbonesx> Brandano: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WuDpaxR0
[09:58] <saarathi> hi
[09:58] <vaibhav1> I have installed Ubuntu 10.04 and now I wanted to install ubuntu 8.10 as dual boot.. Does it will install normally or do I have to make chages in grub??
[09:59] <bazhang> vaibhav1, 8.10 is end of life and unsupported
[09:59] <maedox> vaibhav1, ubuntu 8.10 will have issues with the grub version lucid has installed. You should have done it the other way around.
[09:59] <raven> firefox: keyword.URL=https://www.ixquick.de/do/metasearch.pl?query= how to make it behave like the google entry? e.g. redirection to wikipedia with "wiki keyword"
[10:00] <neshaug> I'm using the wizard to mount a windows share. Do anyone know where the folder is mounted in the system if I want to get to it by the shell?
[10:01] <neshaug> Wizard as in, Places -> Connect to sever
[10:01] <jablo> Neshaug: Usually /media/<label of windows partition>
[10:01] <vaibhav1> maedox: Does the grub problem 'll fix if I reinstall Grub from 10.04 live CD, after installing 8.10
[10:01] <parapan> hi there fellows please point me out to an anonymous web browsing like tor is ....does anyone know a better one ???
[10:02] <bazhang> vaibhav1, 8.10 is unsupported. choose another more recent version
[10:02] <Brandano> xbonesx: for the wireless driver?
[10:02] <killer999> in last 2 days two attempts have been made from remote locations to hack my mail account...can anyone tell me a secure method to encrypt password in firefox
[10:02] <st> raven, on apacheL mod_rewrite
[10:03] <st> killer999, do not share your computer with anyone
[10:03] <killer999> st, i havn't
[10:04] <ptman> Jordan_U, thanks for the help, the desktop iso starts booting using the grub2 super disk, but is there any way to give it parameters?
[10:04] <st> killer999, so you 're safe if you haven't irc bot i=on your machine
[10:04] <ptman> Jordan_U, the alternate iso doesn't seem to be grub2 bootable
[10:05] <Katsumi32> killer999, if your email is so important join #backtrack-linux they will help you secure your email properly
[10:05] <maedox> vaibhav1, It might actually work, but I honestly didn't try exactly what you want so I can't say for sure. As long as you don't mess with the partition table and 10.04 data you can always reinstall grub if it gets screwed up.
[10:05] <neshaug> jablo: sorry, nothing there :P
[10:05] <Brandano> xbonesx: looks like an already configured init script to me. Try copying it in /etc/init.d and then run update-rc.d enable <scriptname>
[10:05] <Jordan_U> ptman: Yes, you can press "e" to edit the menu entry then ctrl+X to boot the modified entry.
[10:05] <Brandano> xbonesx: naturally, make it executable, test it by hand first, run the update-rc.d command as sudo and al other bits dictated by common sense
[10:06] <killer999> Katsumi32, I mean all my passwords i store in firefox...for different mail and other accounts
[10:06] <Brandano> xbonesx: and keep in mind that normally you are not supposed to fiddle with this sort of stuff
[10:06] <st> killer999, are you storing passwords?
[10:06] <maedox> killer999, where is your mail account hosted? make sure you use a unique password (e.g. don't use the same pass anywhere else). Enable Master Password in Firefox.
[10:06] <xbonesx> I understand this but if it loads ssb before ndiswrapper my wireless card doesnt get picked up
[10:07] <jablo> neshaug: Try ~/.gvfs/ then, but I think real partitions usually mount at /media/...
[10:07] <Brandano> xbonesx: load order should be somewhere there in those comments at the start of the script
[10:07] <jablo> Hi all. I have problems booting my ubuntu 10.04 installation which I have been running for some months now. With kernel 2.6.32-24-generic I get a message on boot: "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown -block(0,0)". Luckily grub has an older kernel 2.6.32-21-generic which does not have this problems. Google doesn't help...
[10:07] <killer999> maedox, i have enabled master pass....how to check its encrypted or not
[10:07] <Reactor> Is anyone of you is using emesene ??
[10:07] <killer999> st, yes
[10:07] <xbonesx> Brandano: what do you mean?
[10:07] <maedox> killer999, it is stored encrypted in your file system if you enable master pass.
[10:07] <Brandano> xbonesx: chech the other init scripts for hints... I am not an expert
[10:08] <Brandano> xbonesx: but there ought to be a line somewhere telling init when to start the script
[10:08] <killer999> maedox, as there a way to verify....i really want to be sure...because i run a blog and i am worried
[10:08] <JoeMaverickSett> jablo: might want to take a look at this: http://www.gprotab.net/forum/topic.php?id=2573
[10:08] <Brandano> xbonesx: actually, telling update-rc.d where to put the script
[10:09] <xbonesx> originally this script was supposed to be executed from .bash_profile, but i dont have that file, only .profile
[10:09] <Brandano> xbonesx: and what number to prepend to it
[10:09] <maedox> killer999, yes, search google for where the file is and open it. If you don't have a master pass the file will be plaintext, gibberish if you do.
[10:09] <jablo> JoeMaverickSett: thanks, looking...
[10:09] <xbonesx> Brandano: originally this script was supposed to be executed from .bash_profile, but i dont have that file, only .profile
[10:10] <Brandano> xbonesx: well, .profile is like .bash_profile, but I doubt that's what you want anyway
[10:10] <jocrawfo> someone here must know this answer..... Is there a way to connect an external display to my macbook pro, close the lid and have the external display become the primary display?  This is the result you get when running Windows/Mac so I am sure there is a way to do this in Ubuntu I am just not sure how.  The closest I got was my laptop screen being on while the lid was closed but that will just burnout the lcd when the extern
[10:10] <jocrawfo> al is being used.  I also have to mirror displays to use that method.
[10:10] <jocrawfo> i also was able to manually disable my laptop display using the Nvidia tool but that's a pain to do manually all the time
[10:10] <jocrawfo> anyone have any idea?
[10:10] <FloodBot3> jocrawfo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <maedox> xbonesx, look in the /etc/rc#.d/ directories. K = kill, S = start. lower number is earlier start/kill. read up on update-rc.d and ask here again for help.
[10:10] <Brandano> xbonesx: you want it to start before the network services, so before user login
[10:10] <jablo> JoeMaverickSett: I think it's the wrong link... this link talks about a guitar program (GP6) or something... and 32bit ubuntu. I'm using 64bit.
[10:11] <maedox> xbonesx, 0, 1, 6 = kill, 2, 3, 4, 5 = start.
[10:11] <maedox> xbonesx, runlevels that is.
[10:11] <vaibhav1> bazhang: But the issue is only of Grub i guess, so normally if i reinstall grub from 10.04, it should work.
[10:11] <Brandano> xbonesx: study man update-rc.d
[10:11] <Jordan_U> ptman: The alternate iso unfortunatly doesn't support loop booting. The netboot iso does (and uses the same installer as the alternate install CD) but I haven't added support for the netboot iso to Super GRUB2 Disk yet.
[10:12] <xbonesx> Brandano: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[10:12] <xbonesx> Brandano: mine is the 4328
[10:12] <ptman> Jordan_U, I couldn't find a ubuntu netboot iso, that would probably have solved my problem (the broken cdrom drive) directly
[10:12] <xbonesx> Brandano: its a hardy bug
[10:13] <Brandano> hmm, we are at L already...
[10:13] <Brandano> almost at M now
[10:13] <Brandano> xbonesx: ever tought about upgrading the distribution?
[10:13] <Jordan_U> ptman: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/
[10:13] <xbonesx> Brandano: 10.4?
[10:14] <jablo> I cannot boot my ubuntu 10.04 system which I have been running for some months now. With kernel 2.6.32-24-generic it panics on boot: "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)". I have to use the 2.6.32-21-generic kernel. Solutions, anyone?
[10:14] <ptman> Jordan_U, oh, right, sorry, I'm confusing netboot with netinst (from debian)
[10:14] <Jordan_U> ptman: Either way it's not easy to find if you don't already know where to look :)
[10:14] <roccity_> jablo, have you tried reinstalling the kernel?
[10:15] <Brandano> jablo: sounds odd, did you check the entries on the boot manager? If they both seem fine I'd clean the new kernel and repeat he update
[10:15] <jablo> Brandano: I have compared the working and nonworking grub entries, they are identical except for kernel and ramdisk file names.
[10:16] <jablo> roccity_: How do I reinstall the kernel?
[10:16] <zacharyzo> !call devs
[10:16] <zacharyzo> Its ia32 and acidbitchez fixed in ubuntu ?
[10:16] <maedox> jablo, as ptman and Jordan_U said. completely remove the kernel and reinstall it.
[10:16] <roccity_> jablo, you need to open synaptic and remove that kernel and then click install again
[10:17] <Jordan_U> ptman: Ubuntu's netinst is just called the mininal CD. With a bad CD drive you probably want to load the least amount possible though, and the netinstall is smaller (even if you don't decide to netboot bypassing the CD entirely).
[10:17] <maedox> sorry, missed the nicks there. xD
[10:17] <jablo> roccity_: trying. thanks...
[10:17] <neshaug> jablo: gvfs it was, thanks :)
[10:19] <Jordan_U> ptman: Now that I check it may be exactly the same size (maybe they are one in the same even:)
[10:20] <bobthemilkman> I'm trying to compile an x86 binary on an x86_64 machine. During the configure stage, what sort of flags should I use, aside from -m32?
[10:20] <Jordan_U> ptman: Yup, I was mistaken and the netinstall and minimal install isos are indeed one and the same, just named differently in different references.
[10:21] <jablo> roccity_: rebooting now, be back in a moment ... :-)
[10:21] <jocrawfo> someone here must know this answer..... Is there a way to connect an external display to my macbook pro, close the lid and have the external display become the primary display?  This is the result you get when running Windows/Mac so I am sure there is a way to do this in Ubuntu I am just not sure how.  The closest I got was my laptop screen being on while the lid was closed but that will just burnout the lcd when the extern
[10:21] <jocrawfo> al is being used.  I also have to mirror displays to use that method. i also was able to manually disable my laptop display using the Nvidia tool but that's a pain to do manually all the time. Any ideas?
[10:22] <roccity_> jablo, good luck
[10:24] <xbonesx> anyone willing to do a one on one help session to get a script to run on startup
[10:24] <xbonesx> having troubles please anyone
[10:25] <Angelov> Is there IRC channel for emesene ??
[10:26] <jablo> roccix_: (sorry if I misspelled your name). IT WORKED. Now running on kernel 2.6.32-24-generic. As simple as going into synaptic, selecting the kernel for reinstall, apply, reboot. FIXED. Thanks.
[10:26] <bazhang> Angelov, /msg alis list *emesene*
[10:26] <roccity_> jablo, no problem Ive had that issue a few times
[10:26] <Angelov> bazhang : thx
[10:26] <roccity_> jablo, wait till you get the urge to compile your own hahaha
[10:27] <saarathi> siva :where are u from
[10:27] <siva> \join #nrc-foss-edu
[10:27] <bazhang> !ot | saarathi
[10:28] <swampt> there are so many fools out there still using xp its insecure
[10:28] <jablo> Haha - I started using linux back with version 0.92 in '93 I think. Been using FreeBSD/Linux alternately since except for a couple of years when the distributions matured. So - I have problems using all this user friendly software... menus and stuff. Back in the good old days would just download source, make, make install, and that's it. Now I need to find my way around synaptic.
[10:28] <jablo> But -- in day to day life, it's a blessing. Everything just _works_
[10:29] <roccity_> jablo, haha I'm the opposite started with fedora core 4 from a magazine but didn't use comps that much so did really have a preference for a OS
[10:30] <jablo> Interesting fact. At work our VPN client only runs on WIndows. So I dual boot windows7 and linux. When at work I boot directly into linux. When at home, I boot into windows, start vpn client and boot the linux partition using vmware player. Cool.
[10:30] <swampt> xp is still the most used os, that is awefull
[10:30] <Angelov> yes
[10:30] <Brandano> xbonesx: 1st step: copy that script to /etc/init.d
[10:30] <Angelov> window suck
[10:30] <jablo> Angelov: Yep. To me it's a very biiiig vpn client :)
[10:30] <Brandano> xbonesx: make it executable
[10:31] <JoeMaverickSett> jablo: oops, sorry about that. have you sorted it out? if not, what was your problem? :)
[10:31] <Brandano> xbonesx: test it by hand to make sure it works: sudo /etc/init.d/<scriptname>
[10:31] <jablo> JoeMaverickSett: It's been solved, thanks. Reinstallation of kernel 2.6.32-24-generic from using synaptic fixed the problem.
[10:31] <Brandano> err
[10:31] <Brandano> xbonesx:  sudo /etc/init.d/<scriptname> start
[10:32] <ComradeHaz`> Morning all. I'm wondering if there's any software that allows me to stick in all the 'jobs' of a project with dates and dependancies to plan it all and if possible create gantt charts. Anyone know of any such software?
[10:32] <jablo> better get some work done. Cya later all.
[10:32] <Brandano> xbonesx: though it looks to me like that script just ignores start and stop commands
[10:32] <Angelov> jablo: I was usin win before But I got sick and tired of viruses and freezing screen
[10:32] <JoeMaverickSett> jablo: oh, okie. i think i messed up on copying the link. glad that you got it solved. :) enjoy!
[10:32] <JoeMaverickSett> ComradeHaz`: try Project Management.
[10:32] <Angelov> jablo: with Ubuntu I feel reborn and I will never change it :)
[10:33] <jablo> Angelov: :)
[10:33] <Brandano> xbonesx: then, decide on what runlevel it ought to be run, and in what point of the sequence it ought to be started. better jot it down on a piece of paper
[10:34] <ComradeHaz`> JoeMaverickSett, is that the name of a piece of software?
[10:35] <JoeMaverickSett> ComradeHaz`: yes, you could find it in Ubuntu Software Centre
[10:35] <Brandano> xbonesx: to understand what you are about to do: less /etc/rc0.d/README
[10:35] <JoeMaverickSett> ComradeHaz`: supports Gantt charts too.
[10:36] <ip3t3r> hi, i can't connect my linksys wusb54gc v3 (black version) using WPA/WPA2 key.. why? (on ubuntu 10.04)
[10:36] <ComradeHaz`> Exciting, thanks. I'll get Ubuntu installed on a local machine then :D
[10:37] <Brandano> xbonesx: what you want to do is to identify what services require ndiswrapper to be already started in order to run, and find a number just lower than the one used by those services to specify to update-rc.d
[10:37] <Brandano> hmm, too much info?
[10:37] <Brandano> xbonesx: what you want to do is to identify what services require ndiswrapper to be already started in order to run, and find a number just lower than the one used by those services to specify to update-rc.d
[10:37] <reggi> hey everyone, I have a folder with 130 tgz files and I want to extract all every tgz file with just one line command. I've been using  'tar -xvzf *.tgz' but I get errors. Is there a better / correct command to achieve this?
[10:39] <Brandano> reggi: there's a few ways. are there spaces in the paths?
[10:39] <sivakumar> hi
[10:39] <xbonesx> Brandano: PM please
[10:39] <reggi> Brandano, there are no spaces
[10:40] <Brandano> reggi: I think you can just "find" all the files and pipe the list to tar
[10:40] <reggi> Brandano, I'm actually in the folder where the archive files
[10:40] <Clemens> Can anyone tell/help me getting my laptop able to use a wired internet connection again. I don't know what has been changed, but it doesn't work anymore
[10:40] <reggi> oooh
[10:40] <sivakumar> hi Brandano
[10:41] <swampt> I used to be able to just join without registering channels like #linux and #fedora now its like they are getting hammered all day or something
[10:43] <sivakumar> here one problem doesn't connect reliance broadband+ in ubuntu 10.04
[10:43] <raven> firefox: keyword.URL=https://www.ixquick.de/do/metasearch.pl?query= how to make it behave like the google entry? e.g. redirection to wikipedia with "wiki keyword"
[10:43] <erik_Lavdal> hello gents! can anybody answer me: i need to restrict a user fro using networking can i use PAM to do this?
[10:44] <dark_man> hi all
[10:44] <dark_man> i am a new one
[10:45] <roccity_> hey dark_man
[10:45] <JoeMaverickSett> !welcome | dark_man
[10:46] <dark_man> thanks
[10:47] <sivakumar> hi any one  answer my question : i couldn't connect my reliance broadband+ data card in ubuntu 10.04
[10:48] <erik_Lavdal> Does anybody know if PAM can be used to cut a user off from using network
[10:48] <swampt> if some message just appeared on my screen s'aying all your files belong to us' what does that mean?
[10:49] <bazhang> swampt, means you are offtopic here
[10:49] <chelz> erik_Lavdal: this is one way http://blog.sanaulla.info/2008/02/07/disable-internet-access-for-particular-user-in-ubuntu/
[10:49] <roccity_> erik_Lavdal, it maybe better to use deny hosts or ip tables
[10:49] <antIP> Anyone familiar with Conky-colors ??
[10:49] <bazhang> swampt, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <Katsumi32> antIP, ask on #conky
[10:50] <white-man> hi dark-man
[10:50] <neo_> sivakumar, r u white? ;)
[10:50] <antIP> Katsumi32 -- k, thanks.
[10:50] <white-man> s
[10:50] <neo_> lol
[10:50] <bazhang> white-man, stop that
[10:50] <white-man> hi dark-man where u from ?
[10:50] <erik_Lavdal> hi chelz thx for the link
[10:51] <neo_> just kidding.. we all broter here :D
[10:52] <Tuplario> Hi, does anyone know an easy way to try out the new 64-bit flash?
[10:52] <pLr> xbonesx: hi
[10:53] <WXZ> how can I get my speaker output to be my mic input?
[10:53] <xbonesx> pLr: whats up
[10:53] <chelz> WXZ: you sure your audio card supports that?
[10:53] <thebomb> xbonesx: what is up ?
[10:54] <WXZ> I've done it via windows
[10:54] <xbonesx> thebomb: not shit and you?
[10:54] <JoeMaverickSett> Tuplario: take a look at this; http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/adobe-flash-player-square-102-64bit.html
[10:54] <thebomb> xbonesx: not bad not bad
[10:55] <WXZ> so I guess no-one on here currently knows
[10:56] <Tuplario> JoeMaverickSett: thanks
[10:57] <Angelov> WXZ: You can plugs the Mic input and the Sound output together
[10:57] <WXZ> I don't have a mic
[10:57] <Angelov> WXZ: then you cant use
[10:57] <WXZ> ok, well in xp you can
[10:58] <chelz> oh wait
[10:58] <chelz> WXZ: go to your sound prefs
[10:58] <WXZ> already there
[10:58] <chelz> WXZ: input/output tab
[10:58] <chelz> should see "Connector:"
[10:59] <WXZ> yeah, I do
[10:59] <WXZ> set it to line-in?
[10:59] <chelz> WXZ: you'll have to experiment
[10:59] <WXZ> ok
[11:00] <hxtopqq> hi
[11:00] <hxtopqq> what this?
[11:00] <hxtopqq> atkbd serio0: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xd5 on isa0060/serio0).
[11:00] <hxtopqq> atkbd serio0: Use 'setkeycodes e055 <keycode>' to make it known.
[11:00] <hxtopqq> atkbd serio0: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xd5 on isa0060/serio0).
[11:00] <hxtopqq> atkbd serio0: Use 'setkeycodes e055 <keycode>' to make it known.
[11:00] <hxtopqq> atkbd serio0: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xd6 on isa0060/serio0).
[11:00] <hxtopqq> atkbd serio0: Use 'setkeycodes e056 <keycode>' to make it known.
[11:00] <hxtopqq> atkbd serio0: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xd6 on isa0060/serio0).
[11:00] <FloodBot3> hxtopqq: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:00] <Angelov> WXZ: You cant do the output of your sound card to be your mic input bro
[11:00] <jits> hi . i am trying to setup a ubuntu system as network gateway .. but it is not going to be the dhcp
[11:00] <jits> server .. is it possible ?
[11:00] <jocrawfo> someone here must know this answer..... Is there a way to connect an external display to my macbook pro, close the lid and have the external display become the primary display?  This is the result you get when running Windows/Mac so I am sure there is a way to do this in Ubuntu I am just not sure how.  The closest I got was my laptop screen being on while the lid was closed but that will just burnout the lcd when the extern
[11:00] <jocrawfo> al is being used.  I also have to mirror displays to use that method. i also was able to manually disable my laptop display using the Nvidia tool but that's a pain to do manually all the time. Any ideas?
[11:00] <WXZ> angelov, I've done it before
[11:01] <WXZ> on a different operating system, that's all
[11:01] <jits> 2 network cards both dhcp .. is that possible ?
[11:01] <hxtopqq> atkbd serio0: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xd6 on isa0060/serio0).
[11:01] <iceroot> jits: sure
[11:01] <JoeMaverickSett> !pastebin | hxtopqq
[11:02] <jits> iceroot: thanks.. when i try to do that i loose internet connection... i have configured my network/interfaces and ip_forward in sysctl ..
[11:02] <chelz> jocrawfo: that's some pretty advanced multimonitor stuff. it's totally doable but it might not be easy exactly
[11:02] <iceroot> jits: then its using the wrong route
[11:02] <iceroot> jits: because you have eth0 and eth1. are both in the same subnet?
[11:03] <jits> iceroot: no .. one is on 10.0.0.0 and other is on 192.168.2.0
[11:03] <WXZ> chelz: none of those work
[11:03] <jocrawfo> chelz, that's what I was thinking due to Google not having much information on it
[11:03] <jits> iceroot: 10.0.0.0 is my internet connection .. 192.168.2.0 is my lan ..
[11:03] <jocrawfo> though I am surprised it is not the default behavior in Ubuntu as it is on other OS's
[11:04] <chelz> jcrawford: you could setup a hotkey to make it easier to manually turn off your laptop monitor
[11:05] <jcrawford> hmm that could work
[11:05] <iceroot> jits: the you have to use the route to 10.0.0.0
[11:05] <jcrawford> would i do that in keyboard shortcuts?
[11:05] <jits> iceroot: how do i make that happen ..
[11:05] <chelz> jcrawford: you might need to make a short script and set it up with a hotkey thing. the nvidia tools let you do a lot from the commandline
[11:05] <Niglop> how do i prevent ddos attacks
[11:06] <jits> iceroot: i mean how do i make sure that the other dhcp is not adding itself to the route ...
[11:06] <chelz> jcrawford: also could search  Ubuntu Brainstorm to see if this idea has been suggested, or suggest it yourself. also on the forums there might be something on this
[11:06] <JoeMaverickSett> jcrawford: would this help you; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8873027 take a look.
[11:06] <digitalfiz> Niglop, avoid being a douchebag and avoid contact with douchebags only method
[11:06] <valentino_tuga> hi. i have ubuntu netbook edition. what should i do to update the system to 10.10 beta?
[11:06] <Niglop> digitalfiz»  some script kid got my ip and is trying to ddos me lol
[11:07] <iceroot> jits: you are setting "sudo route add default 10.0.0.0" see man route for the exact command. dhcp is not changing that
[11:07] <rww> valentino_tuga: Ubuntu Maverick discussion and support is in #ubuntu+1; upgrading to development releases isn't supported in #ubuntu.
[11:07] <digitalfiz> Niglop, all you can do is contact yours and his isp mainly yours so maybe they can force change your ip
[11:07] <rww> !maverick
[11:07] <jits> iceroot: i am not doing anything .. i have just installed two cards and setup /etc/interfaces ..
[11:07] <Niglop> digitalfiz»  will firewall defend against ddos?
[11:07] <valentino_tuga> thanks rww
[11:08] <jcrawford> JoeMaverickSett, no that would not work as i am not dealing with a screen saver
[11:08] <jcrawford> i just want my laptop display to turn off and my external display to become the primary when I close the lid on my laptop
[11:08] <jcrawford> macbookpro
[11:08] <JoeMaverickSett> jcrawford: oh, okie. i think i misunderstood your question.
[11:08] <digitalfiz> Niglop, nope a ddos is just tons of packets coming at you so fast there is no room for anything else to come/go so nothing can prevent it accept stopping the source even ignoring the packets coming from the ip's wont work because its still incoming data
[11:09] <Katsumi32> hi how to stop grub if grub_hidden_timeout=0 and i dont have password to change it ? mean i dont see grub window at boot at all. and i need to boot in recovery mode to reset password
[11:09] <valentino_tuga> hi. i have ubuntu netbook edition. what should i do to update the system to 10.10 beta?
[11:10] <chelz> Katsumi32: you can edit your grub config files when you're logged in
[11:10] <rww> valentino_tuga: you're still in #ubuntu ;)
[11:10] <Katsumi32> chelz, yes i can edit but cant change it cuz no password
[11:10] <neriukas> katsumi you need start in single user mode :P
[11:11] <Katsumi32> neriukas, what you mean ?
[11:11] <neriukas> when you are logged like single user mode you can do everithing
[11:12] <Katsumi32> valentino_tuga, dont update 10.10 isnt stable better if you install 10.10 on flash usb or other partition
[11:12] <jits_1998> iceroot: sorry got d/c .. i am not setting up the route at all ..
[11:13] <Jordan_U> Katsumi32: Hold shift.
[11:13] <Katsumi32> Jordan_U, tnx will try it
[11:13] <Jordan_U> Katsumi32: You're welcome.
[11:14] <jcrawford> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9856168#post9856168
[11:15] <mknarr> hello can ne one help me with this registration thing ???
[11:16] <neriukas> ??
[11:20] <iceroot> !register | mknarr
[11:21] <erik_Lavdal> chelz: your'e a lifesaver the link you provided got me going! thanks a lot!
[11:23] <[nrx]> Hi folks. Any idea why my Ubuntu Live CD boots up to just before the welcome screen (login) and then spins down the CD drive and leaves a blank screen?
[11:23] <Guest86171> Hi, can someone help me, i have just installed Lubuntu on my netbook. when i close the lid the notebook goes into standy, how can i turn this off, the notebook should be online all the time
[11:23] <neekers> can someone please explain what this means? Integrity checksum changed for: '/etc/passwd'
[11:23] <chelz> erik_Lavdal: good to hear. thanks for using ubuntu.
[11:24] <neekers> i got that message from ossec
[11:24] <neriukas> guaest did you update power manager?
[11:24] <roccity_> Guest86171, you may not want to do that as it can fry the netbook
[11:24] <chelz> Guest86171: System -> Preferences -> Power Management
[11:24] <jian> something about passwd
[11:24] <Guest86171> ok wait
[11:25] <Guest86171> there is no powermanager i use lxde
[11:25] <neekers> jian: please, give me a little bit of credit...
[11:25] <chelz> neekers: it's warning you that the checksum it has for your /etc/passwd is different from the current checksum it gets, it means the file changed somehow
[11:25] <Guest86171> normal lubuntu installation
[11:25] <neriukas> /etc/passwd is file of passwords you changed or updated it
[11:25] <chelz> Guest86171: oh right. hmm well maybe google or #lubuntu or something
[11:25] <venky10> Hi. I have Hardy Heron on my Dell Desktop. If I upgrade it to Lucid, will all the hardware/drivers work?
[11:25] <neekers> i haven't been on my ubuntu server for hours...
[11:26] <Guest86171> chelz, thanks, google did not help me, i try lubuntu channel
[11:26] <neriukas> power management ( gnome-power-preferences)
[11:26] <neriukas> for *buntu ...
[11:26] <yrth> hello, I'm having problems with flashplugin on my new ubuntu 10.04. I've searched forums and tried the suggestions, but it's like running around in circle, with the same result - plugin doesn't work. Can anybody help?
[11:26] <Guest86171> can i install gnome power management on lubuntu, sorry i am new to linux, thought this is not compatible
[11:26] <jian> do you want change your passwd?
[11:27] <neriukas> sudo apt-get install gnome-power-preferences
[11:27] <chelz> venky10: they might, might not. make sure to backup before you upgrade, so you can revert if you need to. or make a copy of your system and upgrade the copy.
[11:27] <chelz> neriukas: that might download all of gnome
[11:28] <neriukas> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree (to install adobe flash player)
[11:28] <venky10> chelz: I can backup data. But how can I get back to Hardy once I find out Lucid doesn't work fine for me?
[11:28] <rashxt> hi all, is there a way to delete some context menu items ??
[11:28] <yrth> neriukas, thanks, but it won't install it
[11:28] <rian> !x
[11:28] <neekers> it said that etc/passwd Size changed from '1499' to '1544'
[11:28] <chelz> venky10: a key element to a good backup strategy is being able to restore the backup
[11:29] <neriukas> ?? won't install ...? you need root ;)
[11:29] <chelz> venky10: how you restore depends on how you do the backup, generally full tools that do backups have their own recommended method(s)
[11:29] <[nrx]> Can any suggest why I can't boot the Ubuntu LiveCD on an old Thinkpad?
[11:29] <Guest86171> neriukas, it says that it is already installed?! :D
[11:29] <vaibhav1> I have installed 8.10 on my machine which is of config, intel i3, 55tc intel mptherboard. The graphics and Ethernet is not detected, what might be an issue?
[11:29] <neriukas> lol :D
[11:29] <yrth> neriukas, I use root... it returns an error
[11:29] <neriukas> so you can't play videos of youtube still?
[11:30] <yrth> correct
[11:30] <Guest86171> neriukas, haaaa i got it, started it in terminal
[11:30] <Guest86171> THANKS
[11:30] <marekw2143> how to check where files from given package are installed?
[11:30] <neriukas> lol did you installed poer management? :D
[11:30] <jian> what do want to do about this file?
[11:30] <venky10> chelz: Can you please suggest any of such tools ??
[11:30] <rashxt> is there a way to delete some context menu items ?
[11:30] <neekers> jian: no, i don't want to change my password, i'm trying to figure out is someone got into my system and was trying to add a new user
[11:30] <yrth> !paste
[11:31] <neriukas> neekers you can remove promt of password :P
[11:31] <rian> !x
[11:31] <chelz> !backup | venky10
[11:31] <jian> neekers,oh,it sounds like you have got something trouble,
[11:31] <venky10> chelz: ubottu: thanks!
[11:32] <Guest86171> neriukas, it was already installed but i did not found it... :D
[11:32] <yrth> neriukas, http://paste.ubuntu.com/495205/
[11:32] <neekers> neriukas: is it possible for the checksum to change on the by something happening on the system independant of a user?
[11:32] <neekers> the file
[11:33] <neekers> the passwd file to be more specific
[11:33] <felipeguima> dia
[11:33] <neriukas> you need look at your log megazines
[11:34] <neekers> neriukas: me?
[11:35] <neriukas> wtf :D ok if you have problems when you installed or soething did afcause look at logs (gk gnome-system-log)
[11:35] <i5noc> anyone messed with the archose 5?
[11:35] <yrth>  I'm having problems with flashplugin on my new ubuntu 10.04. I've searched forums and tried the suggestions, but it's like running around in circle, with the same result - plugin doesn't work. Can anybody help? after 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree' I get the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/495205/
[11:36] <neriukas> installed?
[11:36] <JoeMaverickSett> yrth: is your system 64-bit or 32-bit?
[11:36] <yrth> joemavericksett, 64-bit
[11:37] <chelz> yrth: sudo apt-get remove adobe-flashplugin
[11:37] <reggi> hello everyone, would someone give me a URL where i can teach myself scripting in CLI?
[11:37] <neriukas> wtf you need uninstall adobe -flasplugin and install flash-plugin-nonfree
[11:37] <chelz> yrth: also might try that new 64bit beta linux flash
[11:37] <JoeMaverickSett> yrth: try this: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/adobe-flash-player-square-102-64bit.html
[11:37] <reggi> hello everyone, would someone give me a URL where i can teach myself scripting in BASH cli?
[11:37] <jrib> !bash | reggi
[11:38] <yrth> chelz, remove didn't work
[11:38] <neriukas> books i have from torrent i can make links :D
[11:38] <rafu> hey, anyone knows how to resize lvm volumes so they get to have the same size?
[11:38] <reggi> thanks jrib i'll take a peek now
[11:38] <chelz> yrth: please pastebin the output
[11:38] <TiK> yrth: rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/flashplugin-installer_10.1.82.76ubuntu0.10.04.2_amd64.deb
[11:39] <TiK> yrth: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree --purge
[11:39] <TiK> yrth: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:39] <neriukas> gksu --description /usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop /usr/sbin/synaptic open it and find flash and remove i think you can do it :D
[11:39] <Katsumi32> yrth, or you can just open synaptic and remove flash plugin
[11:39] <yrth> chelz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/495214/ tik
[11:40] <chelz> yrth: follow tik's stuff
[11:40] <jian> neekers,i do not think so,maybe you can check your file of passwd,
[11:40] <TiK> yrth: so skip the the next step :)
[11:40] <jian> sdfs
[11:40] <TiK> linux mint just relased a debian editin.. im going to try it in a VM
[11:41] <yrth> ok tik, it's removed
[11:41] <geirha> yrth: aptitude search flashplugin
[11:41] <neriukas> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:41] <TiK> yrth: so reinstall the plugin
[11:41] <coolroot> hello! i got a ubuntu 9.10 and i've just upgraded it to 10.04 lucid...after i upgraded my distro..i got this annoying thing in my settings...when i open my terminal it opens in a permanent place and i can't drag or move it around my desktop...and i cant see the close button...if i want to close it i have to click file button and quit...same goes to my firefox and other applications...how can i change this things to normal?
[11:41] <geirha> yrth: If adobe-flashplugin is installed (i), remove it, then try installing flashplugin-installer.
[11:42] <jits_1998> iceroot: can you help please .. i need to get the two cards working :-(
[11:42] <yrth> tik, using this command? sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:42] <iConfused> Is there a way to prevent updates from screwing with my alsa config files? ;-;
[11:42] <neriukas> coolroot better you could download new iso of ubuntu and install because you maked some bugs
[11:43] <coolroot> i need to install a fresh copy?
[11:43] <iConfused> coolroot, does the titlebar show up on those apps?
[11:44] <bastiaan> Thank for starting my up :D
[11:44] <neriukas> yes , you need save files remove old linux and fresh install safe and you'll be happy
[11:44] <geirha> coolroot: Does running:  metacity --replace &    in a terminal do anything?
[11:44] <coolroot> iconfused: nope nothing....i can't see any title bar and the minimized and close buttons too
[11:44] <iConfused> like, is there close/minimize/maximize buttons, coolroot (And you might not have to reinstall >.>)
[11:44] <yrth> look guys... here is what I get when I try to install it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/495218/
[11:44] <iConfused> coolroot, sounds like it's a metacity thing, do what geirha said
[11:45] <chelz> yrth: sudo apt-get -f install
[11:45] <juk> hi
[11:45] <chelz> !hi | juk
[11:45] <JoeMaverickSett> coolroot: might want to take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469937&highlight=metacity
[11:45] <yrth> chelz, and I
[11:46] <coolroot> do i have to type it on terminal? like metacity --replace & ?
[11:46] <tensorpudding> coolroot: yeah
[11:46] <coolroot> oh
[11:46] <coolroot> now it's working
[11:46] <coolroot> wew
[11:46] <coolroot> thanx
[11:46] <FloodBot3> coolroot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:46] <yrth> chelz, and I'm back to my first paste... I will repaste it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/495220/
[11:46] <yrth> this is what I mean, I
[11:46] <jian> how can i talk with someone else?
[11:46] <JoeMaverickSett> yrth: try this then: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/adobe-flash-player-square-102-64bit.html
[11:46] <geirha> coolroot: Try logging out and back in again and see if it sticks.
[11:46] <yrth> ok joe
[11:46] <coolroot> ok
[11:47]  * iConfused lawls at llutz's quit message
[11:47] <chelz> yrth: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer
[11:47] <neriukas> lol
[11:47] <neriukas> not installer but flashplugin-nonfree
[11:48] <dragon> Is this still the Ubuntu support channel? Seems like a casual discussion lounge.
[11:48] <tensorpudding> there is no casual discussion here
[11:48] <yrth> chelz... errors -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/495221/
[11:48] <Inferus> hi, anyone know how to connect rpcclient to a windows domain please?
[11:48] <TiK> yrth: it sounds like you installed something that cinflicts with flashplugin-nonfree
[11:48] <Gnea> dragon: perhaps you're not paying attention, do you have a real question?
[11:48] <chelz> neriukas: flashplugin-nonfree is a transitional package that just points to flashplugin-installer
[11:49] <juk> curl prints net stats along with web content, how do I redirect net stats to log file?
[11:49] <coolroot> geirha: thanx
[11:49] <Inferus> i am trying to use rpcclient, but I can't seem to find how to connect to my server
[11:49] <coolroot> can i do a pm with u geirha?
[11:50] <dragon> Gnea: I used to support in this channel months ago, and eventually stopped hanging around as the seriousness went down.
[11:50] <geirha> coolroot: Ok, but why?
[11:50] <chelz> yrth: sudo apt-get -f install flashplugin-installer flashplugin-nonfree-
[11:51] <yrth> joemavericksett, again an error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/495224/
[11:51] <neriukas> chelz:  ok ;)
[11:51] <mungustas> dragon so let's be serious now and then ;]
[11:51] <juk> my stderr pipe is broken, help, echo test error:$((4/0)) > /dev/null
[11:51] <Gnea> dragon: perhaps you were dragged down by trolls, I've been here for years and the support has stayed serious
[11:51] <mungustas> ane neriukas
[11:51] <neriukas> nu :D#
[11:51] <sassieston> hi, I want to deal with a directory full of around 400,000 images, what image viewer can I use to display them and scroll trough them?
[11:51] <yrth> same error chelz
[11:52] <jrib> sassieston: I like feh!
[11:52] <mungustas> i would combine something with xargs
[11:52] <juk> how to fix stderr pipe?
[11:52] <mungustas> sassie
[11:52] <yrth> tik, it seems that way, but there isn't a lot installed on my computer
[11:52] <jrib> juk: tell us exactly what you are doing
[11:52] <chelz> yrth: which?
[11:52] <sassieston> jrib: thanks for the recommendation:)
[11:52] <iConfused> sassieston, 400,000 images? o.o
[11:52] <sassieston> iConfused: yes, :p
[11:53] <mungustas> it's a little flicker.com site :D
[11:53] <dragon> Gnea: not really. At some point most of the messages used to be long and relevant. Now, most of them are 3-4 words long.
[11:53] <yrth> chelz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/495227/
[11:53] <juk> jrib:trying to redirect stdout > foo.log stderr > foo.err
[11:53] <mungustas> sassieston what do you want to achieve, view the pictures and get the best shots or smth.??
[11:53] <dragon> any way, I'll try not to talk about para-support issues here. :)
[11:53] <jrib> juk: pastebin exactly what you are typing and the full output
[11:54] <Gnea> dragon: then you're not reading right.
[11:54] <chelz> yrth: er
[11:54] <chelz> yrth: sudo apt-get -f install flashplugin-installer flashplugin-nonfree-
[11:54] <geirha> yrth: It says you have an adobe-flashplugin package installed that conflicts with flashplugin-installer
[11:54] <chelz> yrth: notice the - at the end
[11:54] <jrib> dragon: right now, you're the only one not discussing support...
[11:54] <TiK> yrth: you don't install both of those
[11:54] <sassieston> mungustas: more like viewing the picture database to get some inspiration
[11:54] <chelz> my command removes flashplugin-nonfree
[11:54] <TiK> yrth:  adobe-flashplugin conflicts with flashplugin-installer
[11:54] <yrth> tik, now you're telling me?
[11:54] <chelz> yrth: run it
[11:55] <TiK> yrth: its something you installed previously
[11:55] <chelz> it'll work
[11:55] <iConfused> jrib, but he /was/ discussing support
[11:55] <yrth> chelz, I did
[11:55] <jrib> iConfused: he was discussing meta-support
[11:55] <chelz> yrth: with flashplugin-nonfree- ? with the -?
[11:55] <TiK> yrth: cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ ls -la *flash*
[11:56] <chelz> did it work? or what output?
[11:56] <neriukas> yrth: what's your computer architecture? :D
[11:56] <TiK> yrth: cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ && ls -la *flash*
[11:56] <yrth> no great changes, chelz hehehe http://paste.ubuntu.com/495229/
[11:56] <jrib> iConfused: and now we're discussing his discussion of support :P
[11:56] <yrth> neriukas, 64
[11:56] <cryptopsy> how can i edit the song info of songs on my blackberry so that they are no longer known as 'unknown artist' ?
[11:56] <TiK> yrth: are you retarted?
[11:57] <mungustas> sassieston well it is a big task to browse through such number of images don't you think? I would sort the images into folders of couple of thousand pics and browse through them
[11:57] <chelz> yrth:  sudo apt-get-f remove flashplugin-nonfree
[11:57] <jrib> TiK: please don't be rude
[11:57] <yrth> hm... tik
[11:57] <awk> Hi any suggestions, trying to use php-ffmep ... when I run php I get this... PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/ffmpeg.so' - libtheora.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
[11:57] <TiK> yrth: 2 people hav sid not to install both of those
[11:57] <TiK> said*
[11:57] <ikonia> awk: you're missing a library
[11:57] <neriukas> "adobe-flashplugin conflicts with flashplugin-installer" what don't you understand? :D
[11:57] <yrth> yes, tik, after I have already installed them
[11:58] <awk> ikonia, why didn't the depedency check for this..
[11:58]  * iConfused points out that TiK spelled "retarted" incorrectly. "Don't say that kind of thing anyway, 'tis rude."
[11:58] <juk> jrib: Ok shortly, how to log curls netstats
[11:58] <yrth> and in the directory you said, there are both .deb files for installer and nonfree
[11:58] <yrth> tik
[11:58] <neriukas> untill ^C :D
[11:58] <TiK> heh
[11:58] <ikonia> awk: I don't know, which repo are you pulling the package from ?
[11:59] <TiK> 1sec
[11:59] <awk> hmm, i don't have custom repos in... so would be 1 of the standard repositories
[11:59] <jrib> juk: no idea what "curls netstats" is, stop changing your question :)
[11:59] <ikonia> awk: which package is it
[11:59] <awk> php-ffmpeg
[11:59] <TiK> yrth: I dont think they install, but dpkg -r them and then delete them
[12:00] <sassieston> mungustas: theoretically speaking an image browser should only load the file list, considering 400,000 images with an filename of 100 bytes is 40 MB, then only the thumbnails of the files onscreen are loaded/created, this should be possible right?
[12:00] <yrth> look guys... I'm  getting a bit confused with your advice, one says install, the other calls me retarded for doing that...
[12:00] <awk> ikonia, : err php5-ffmpeg
[12:00] <ikonia> ah
[12:00] <TiK> yrth: sorry
[12:01] <awk> ikonia, package libtheora0 is installed
[12:01] <juk> jrib:
[12:01] <yrth> I just don
[12:01] <typemore> can I merge two id_rsa files by just catting them?
[12:01] <yrth> 't know whom to listen to
[12:01] <ikonia> awk: awk just installing on my box now
[12:02] <jrib> yrth: you're just installing flash?
[12:03] <mungustas> typemore sure
[12:03] <chelz> yrth: tik has good advice
[12:03] <juk> jrib:just making it easy, what kind of output is messages from write(1) or curl(1) looks similar
[12:03] <neriukas> mungustas: kiek tau metu? :D
[12:03] <awk> ikonia, :D
[12:03] <mungustas> sassieston theoretically, but try that with dslr images of 4MB or raw ;)
[12:04] <awk> I think its one of the /etc/php5/conf.d/ffmpeg.ini that is refering to a lib that isn't working properly let me try rebuild this library
[12:04] <yrth> jrib, just so I can watch youtube :)
[12:04] <juk> jrib:and are they logable
[12:04] <jrib> juk: if you want to redirect stderr, use: command 2> location     .  I'm not sure I understood what you just said however
[12:04] <mungustas> neriukas 14 :p
[12:04] <sassieston> mungustas: most are around 500kb, some are up to 3mb and some are 100kb, thumbnailing shouldn't be a big problem
[12:05] <neriukas> mungustas kiek n  reikia daugint? :D
[12:05] <root_aaa> i am from china
[12:05] <root_aaa> are you from
[12:05] <jrib> yrth: if you are using a recent release (like lucid) just use the package in the repositories for flash
[12:05] <sabgenton> where do the package index files go
[12:05] <sabgenton> from apt-get update
[12:05] <root_aaa> ?
[12:06] <root_aaa> what
[12:06] <root_aaa> fuck
[12:06] <mungustas> sassieston give me a msg how that gone :)
[12:06] <ikonia> root_aaa: control our language
[12:06] <chelz> !cn | root_aaa
[12:06] <ikonia> awk: try a re-install, it pulled it down for me
[12:06] <neriukas> sabgestion  software-properties-kde look from where coming apps
[12:06] <Inferus> net rpc shutdown -I ipAddressOfWindowsPC -U username%password
[12:06] <root_aaa> join #ubuntu-cn
[12:07] <Inferus> i am trying to use the above
[12:07] <awk> ikonia, works like a charm :D
[12:07] <ikonia> awk: really, cool
[12:07] <Inferus> how do i put a domain admin into the username/password?
[12:07] <sabgenton> i don't have kde
[12:07] <ikonia> awk: must have gone a bit wrong during the install/download
[12:07] <neriukas> sabgention lol it is ubuntu
[12:08] <neriukas> gksu software-properties-kde
[12:08] <awk> ikonia, yes, very strange... anyway, thanks :D
[12:08] <sabgenton> what dir are pakage index files stored in I mean
[12:08] <[nrx]> I can't get the Ubuntu live cd to completely boot on an old thinkpad :(
[12:09] <jrib> yrth: and if you do nothing but just visit a page using flash (and doesn't try to be too smart (youtube tries to be smart by not showing you flash if you don't have it installed)), then firefox will give you a yellow bar and say, "hey, click here to get this site working"
[12:09] <mthorn> Quick question: I'd like to use libva for video decoding, and it looks like that's not going to happen on lucid (requires kernel 2.6.35 and intel driver 2010q2 according to intel). Can anyone tell me which kernel/intel driver version Meerkate will ship with?
[12:09] <chelz> sabgenton: /var/cache/apt
[12:09] <chelz> sabgenton: /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin
[12:10] <yrth> jrib... this is how the problem started
[12:10] <chelz> mthorn: you can install your own kernel
[12:10] <neriukas> gksu nautilus  /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:11] <LjL> jrib: nested parentheses in plain language are usually a sign that you've either programmed or done math way too much
[12:11] <neriukas> sabgention
[12:11] <chelz> yrth: what do you get from sudo apt-get -f remove flashplugin-nonfree ?
[12:11] <mthorn> chelz, yes, but it's apparently quite a bit of work to get the newest intel driver working on lucid, and I only have one computer. I can't afford for this to go down and be stuck debugging it/asking for help via lynx >__<;
[12:13] <chelz> mthorn: 2.6.35 according to http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[12:13] <mthorn> chelz, tahnk you!
[12:13] <julian-> I made a partition inside of Windows  7 more than large enough to install Ubuntu, but I want to be able to easily dual boot and remove Ubuntu later without messing Windows up. What do I need to pick during instlal?
[12:13] <julian-> install*
[12:13] <chelz> mthorn: packages.ubuntu.com and searching for linux image also has info
[12:13] <jrib> yrth: alright, well just stick with what chelz is saying since he seems to be actively helping you and if someone else thinks there may be a better way or notices something one of us will pop in
[12:14] <jrib> LjL: yes
[12:14] <julian-> ("inside of" meaning, using its disk tool etc.)
[12:14] <yrth> jrib, tik is helping me in a private channel
[12:15] <yrth> chelz - one of the previous pastes was with that error
[12:15] <yrth> it says it's not installed
[12:15] <neriukas> julian install and whats all ubuntu will install grun so you are safe ...
[12:15] <chelz> julian-: make sure you have a partition setup in mind and pick 'manual partitioning'
[12:15] <chelz> yrth: erm sorry, mind pasting again?
[12:16] <julian-> chelz: I have the idea of it using the 15GB partition I made it already at the end of the disk, that enough?
[12:16] <neriukas> julian when you install sellect biggest free space and thats all ubuntu'll make partitions itself
[12:16] <chelz> oh that' a good idea, julian- do what neriukas said
[12:17] <chelz> julian-: for peace of mind, it might be good to read up on uninstalling ubuntu, just so you know what's invoved
[12:17] <Jordan_U> julian-: You'll need to use a windows install CD or a Linux LiveCD to install a windows style mbr after you remove your Ubuntu partition. Otherwise you won't even be able to boot windows.
[12:18] <chelz> julian-: i see some good guides: http://www.google.com/search?q=uninstalling+ubuntu
[12:18] <julian-> I'd use Wubi, I'm just not aware of a way to get it to use Meerkat
[12:18] <yrth> chelz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/495238/
[12:18] <neriukas> lol then i delete ubuntu with windows , wndows still work because grub is installed :D
[12:19] <iConfused> julian-, download the beta iso, and stick it in the same folder as the wubi.exe
[12:19] <iConfused> :D
[12:19] <chelz> julian-: if you already made a partition, why use wubi?
[12:19] <julian-> chelz: So it won't frack with the Windows bootloader
[12:19] <neriukas> don't use wubi :(
[12:19] <julian-> iConfused: I was under the impression that it'd reject it if it wasn't named as it expected it to be
[12:20] <iConfused> julian-, oh?
[12:20] <mungustas> wubi is a version with less stuff in it
[12:20] <qwm> argh. i installed kde, and later removed it. but the menu is still full of dead-end kde junk. any quick fix for this?
[12:20] <chelz> julian-: reinstalling the windows bootloader is really trivial, and wubi still changes a bit of the windows boot
[12:20] <mungustas> like there is no standart themes and so on
[12:20] <julian-> chelz: In a way that's not easily removable?
[12:20] <chelz> julian-: no, it's easy, just changes happen
[12:21] <chelz> julian-: even without ubuntu, you can boot to windows from grub, which a normal ubuntu installation installs
[12:21] <julian-> To be clear, I want to install Maverick rather than 10.04 because I'm testing power consumption between Ubuntu and Windows, and don't think it's a particularly fair test if I'm not using the latest version of both
[12:21] <neriukas> ubuntu forever ;)
[12:21] <neriukas> :D
[12:21] <iceroot> julian-: 10.10 is a beta
[12:22] <neriukas> 10.04 lts i use ;)
[12:22] <julian-> iceroot: Indeed
[12:22] <iConfused> julian-, 10.04 is the latest until 10.10 officially releases, don't worry, lawl
[12:22] <julian-> iceroot: So in terms of having the latest stuff checked in for power management, it seems reasonable it's the right thing to test.
[12:22] <iConfused> Although, I'm lovin' me some Maverick right now
[12:23] <chelz> yrth: sudo apt-get update
[12:23] <chelz> yrth: sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:23] <chelz> yrth: sudo apt-get -f update
[12:23] <neriukas> 10.04 had some bugs with plymouth but i deleted ubuntu-theme and thats all :D booting it from text now :D
[12:23] <neriukas> works fine ;D
[12:24] <chelz> julian-: testing stable stuff sounds more proper. if you want to test maverick, test lucid *and* maverick
[12:24] <julian-> Aha! "--skipmd5check"
[12:24] <sabgenton> chelz: is there a way to read pkgcache.bin?
[12:24] <julian-> chelz: I'm not sure I'm quite that masochistic :P
[12:24] <sabgenton> spose just an apt comand
[12:24] <neriukas> lol gksu nautilus  /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:24] <chelz> sabgenton: apt does somehow
[12:24] <skywalkgr> hello :)
[12:25] <chelz> julian-: being thorough is good :P
[12:25] <neriukas> what's up? :D
[12:25] <juk> jrib, here my discoveries, regards, juk
[12:25] <iceroot> julian-: or use 10.04 with the latest stable kernel
[12:25] <juk> jrib, http://pastebin.org/935936
[12:25] <chelz> !bash | juk
[12:25] <julian-> chelz: Heh, I'm anal enough that I likely will test both, hell, I'm considering giving Microsoft money when I don't technically need to, just because I love me some energy efficiency ;)
[12:26] <jrib> juk: ok, but what is your question now?
[12:26] <neriukas> i love you all linux users :D and i love linux :D
[12:27] <Inferus> im on ubuntu desktop at home, and i'm just installing an ubuntu server now :)
[12:27] <iConfused> Pithos. Is. Amazing.
[12:27]  * rooks feels loved
[12:27] <chelz> julian-: for sure you won't get max performance from a stock install of any linux distro. you have to tweak and slim yourself to *earn* it
[12:27]  * iConfused waves at neriukas
[12:27] <julian-> chelz: Configuring XBMC is enough crap ;)
[12:27] <chelz> julian-: look into powertop
[12:27] <julian-> chelz: Though Ubuntu will get epic points if it manages to figure out WoWLAN properly.
[12:27] <chelz> julian-: also http://elinux.org/Power_Management
[12:28] <julian-> chelz: Yeah, I saw that, though I've also got an energy meter that'll give me some nice readings externally
[12:28] <iConfused> chelz, whatcha' talking about? The minimal ISOs are REALLY efficient ;D
[12:28] <chelz> julian-: linux can do almost anything if you take the time to set it up
[12:28] <julian-> chelz: And if you have the knowledge to
[12:28] <iConfused> And you can run windows apps in it pretty easlily
[12:28] <alecx> hello! I have a question about deb packet development. Can I remove with dpkg -r several package when I am unistalling a package using a script in the file prerm?
[12:28] <iConfused> *Easily
[12:29] <julian-> chelz: I'm a Mac user who has been been setting up Windows on a box for the past week, command line diving is not my idea of a good time :P
[12:29] <jrib> alecx: no
[12:29] <chelz> alecx: that's pretty discouraged. why not just make the packages conflict?
[12:30] <alecx> chelz: how do i do that?
[12:30] <chelz> julian-: sounds like you need an itv or whatever apple is pushing du jour :P
[12:30] <chelz> !packaging | alecx
[12:31] <julian-> chelz: While setting it up wouldn't take more than 5 minutes, it has no local storage and requires all streaming to go through iTunes on a computer.
[12:31] <chelz> julian-: no command line tho right? :P
[12:31] <julian-> chelz: Holy fuck no ;)
[12:32] <chelz> i personally suck it up and just put in the time it takes to have the best and most capable, which means ubuntu and a terminal
[12:32] <alecx> chelz: there's nothing about making a packaging conflict
[12:33] <alecx> chelz: i already made a package
[12:33] <julian-> chelz: This is for a media box, so it needs to be stable and support random crap like TV overscan
[12:33] <[nrx]> I can't get the Ubuntu live cd to completely boot on an old thinkpad :( any ideas people?
[12:33] <chelz> julian-: mythtv and xbmc
[12:33] <neriukas> resources?
[12:33] <neriukas> of pc?
[12:34] <chelz> [nrx]: alternate disc
[12:34] <bazhang> [nrx], try some bootoptions, md5 the iso reburn at low speed do the disk integrity check, or try the alternate installer
[12:34] <st> [nrx] drop ubuntu
[12:34] <julian-> chelz: Currently using XBMC inside of Windows
[12:34] <bazhang> !bootoptions | [nrx]
[12:34] <AnthLee> nrx I have a thinkpad that will not boot ubuntu
[12:34] <bazhang> st not helpful
[12:34] <[nrx]> chelz, bazhang: tried that. Also reburned the CD at a slower speed and still nothing
[12:34] <AnthLee> it does not support the intel chipset inside anymore
[12:34] <bazhang> [nrx], then the alternate installer
[12:34] <[nrx]> FYI, I'm relatively technically proficient and use Ubuntu on my other laptops and pcs :)
[12:34] <AnthLee> try booting in vesa
[12:35] <pcda-knight> not getting any audio thru hdmi in ubuntu 10.4.1 running nvidia propieraty drivers on nvidia ion 2, any idea?
[12:35] <[nrx]> bazhang, it seems to hang when trying to fire up X or the graphical install
[12:35] <neriukas> install older ubuntu or xubuntu
[12:35] <bazhang> [nrx], the alternate could solve that issue then
[12:35] <[nrx]> bazhang, k
[12:35] <bazhang> [nrx], ncurses based install only
[12:35] <pcda-knight> neriukas: was that a reply to me?
[12:36] <[nrx]> bazhang, never thought of that. Blonde moment :)
[12:36] <neriukas> yes, go to www.ditrowatch.com and look ubuntu for old computers ;)
[12:36] <pcda-knight> neriukas: huh? old computers?
[12:36] <neriukas> or linux's based on ubuntu
[12:36] <pcda-knight> why?
[12:36] <nothingspecial> nrx or the minimal iso but you will need a network connection
[12:37] <neriukas> if your computer is old
[12:37] <neriukas> :D
[12:37] <bazhang> neriukas, please dont advise derivatives here
[12:37] <neriukas> ok
[12:37] <pcda-knight> it's nvidia ion 2, it's brand new
[12:38] <julian-> pcda-knight: Shuttle XS35GT?
[12:38] <pcda-knight> is the nvidia driver supplied in ubuntu 10.4.1 (propieraty) capable of hdmi out? alsamixer is at 1.0.22
[12:39] <pcda-knight> julian-: nah, asus barebone, s1-a<something>
[12:39] <julian-> pcda-knight: Maybe I can dream that that isn't a wonder awaiting me ;)
[12:39] <gaelfx> Hey, I'm trying to install 10.04 64-bit onto a desktop using an LED TV, and the post screen and everything comes up fine, until I choose any option from the LiveUSB menu, and then the TV says that it can't support the signal the computer is sending. Is there some way to edit the options for booting from the USB to make it actually work?
[12:39] <pcda-knight> julian-: huh?
[12:41] <julian-> pcda-knight: My box is ION2 as well ;)
[12:41] <pcda-knight> ah, not working for you either?
[12:41] <pcda-knight> on ubuntu lucid 10.4.1?
[12:41] <julian-> pcda-knight: Haven't started yet
[12:41] <pcda-knight> oh
[12:41] <gaelfx> or does anyone have an idea that doesn't involve me downloading the alternate disk?
[12:41] <neriukas> gaelfx you can install from cd?
[12:42] <rallias> how do i open nautulus as superuser?
[12:42] <neriukas> gksu nautilus
[12:42] <gaelfx> neriukas: no, I don't have a CD, just th USB, but I'm pretty sure the problem would persist, since the images used are exactly the same
[12:43] <rallias> neriukas: tyvm
[12:43] <neriukas> do you want good ubuntu cd image?
[12:43] <pcda-knight> how do i install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com in ubuntu 10.4.1? im just getting shitty 640x480 res afterwards?
[12:44] <gaelfx> pcda-knight: after you install that, there should be an NVidia settings app somewhere in your System tab, if you use that, you should be able to c hange the res
[12:44] <pcda-knight> gaelfx: tried, but only options i had was 640x480 and 320x240
[12:44] <Coke> Hi. I'm on some default ubuntu 10.04 (I think), and I'm trying to remove an icon from the panel but the "remove from" is disabled in that menu. Why is that and how am I supposed to configure the panel?
[12:44] <neriukas> galefx (releases.ubuntu.com ) here are all ubuntu versions and cds
[12:45] <rallias> Is it possible to open nautilus to view files on a different machine via an ssh connection?
[12:45] <gaelfx> neriukas: yes, I know, but I've downloaded the image already, the issue I'm having is that whenever the Live version selects it's display output method, it seems to choose one that my TV can't use
[12:45] <nothingspecial> nautilus --no-desktop over ssh
[12:45] <Laban> rallias: Yes, what you're looking for is X11 forwarding
[12:46] <Laban> oh... or what nothingspecial said
[12:46] <rallias> Laban: this computer i speak of doesn't have an x server
[12:47] <root_ninja> rallias, sftp if it's enabled on the server side
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> rallias:  what OS is the pc using? theres X servers for windows you can use. (xming)
[12:47] <rallias> root_ninja: every ftp server i've used is ******
[12:47] <nothingspecial> mount the file system you want to view to your local machine with sshfs
[12:47] <rallias> Dr_Willis: Ubuntu Server 10.04
[12:47] <root_ninja> file -> connect to server
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> rallias:  you could also use winscp for a nice gui file maager over ssh
[12:48] <sander^work> Why dosn't it work to mount an nfs partition at bootup?.. Even if I put in _netdev it dosn't work.
[12:48] <rallias> root_ninja: no on server end
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> rallias:  so you want to ssh from one ubuntu box to a ubuntu server and use nautilus ?
[12:48] <rallias> dr_willis: yeah
[12:48] <Coke> Any idea how I can configure the top panel?
[12:48] <Coke> ALl the options are greyed out (disabled)
[12:49] <nothingspecial> everything on the panel?
[12:49] <Coke> nothingspecial: every icon yes
[12:49] <Coke> nothingspecial: when I right-click the only enabled menu option is "About"
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> rallias:  nautilus has that feature to connect to a remote server.. im not sure what the problem you are having is.
[12:49] <nothingspecial> coke, I`d delete it and make a new one for speed
[12:49] <Coke> nothingspecial: it's not speedy to redo everything
[12:49] <Coke> isn't there some setting I can adjust to allow modifications of the panel?
[12:50] <nothingspecial> ok Alt F2 gconf-editor apps panel and see if you`ve locked anything in there
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> rallias:  or you could 'ssh -X' to the remote box, install nautilus and run it, and it 'should' appear on the local machines display.
[12:50] <gaelfx> is it possible to run the alternate install image from a USB?
[12:50] <Coke> nothingspecial: it's a fresh install. haven't done anything
[12:50] <neriukas> yes
[12:50] <ServerTech> where can i see which network my comp. is connected to, as the panel on the top has the network manager missing
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> gaelfx:  i was thinking  the server edition image had issues.. I think the alt. installer image had issues also.. but ites been some time since i last tried it.
[12:51] <neriukas> cd = usb
[12:51] <Coke> So nobody knows why the option to remove icons from the panel is disabled?
[12:51] <nothingspecial> coke The settings for your panel can be changed with gconf-editor
[12:52] <bazhang> Coke, regular? or netbook remix
[12:52] <ServerTech> hmm any answers to me?
[12:52] <neriukas> ?
[12:52] <Coke> bazhang: uhhh. I don't know.
[12:52] <bazhang> ServerTech, patience
[12:52] <wessel> hello
[12:52] <wessel> wessel@wegumar7:~/Desktop$ sudo mv torcs/ /usr/share/games/
[12:52] <wessel> mv: cannot move `torcs/' to `/usr/share/games/torcs': Directory not empty
[12:52] <root_ninja> Coke, are you sure it's not locked?
[12:52] <Coke> root_ninja: what is locked?
[12:52] <wessel> how can I move a dir with all files / folders inside?
[12:53] <nothingspecial> wessel rm -r
[12:53] <gaelfx> Dr_Willis: I just can't seem to use the graphical version with my LED TV, I think it's choosing the wrong display output method, any ideas on options I could change on the graphical version to make it work?
[12:53] <nettezzaumana> heya
[12:53] <[nrx]> nothingspecial, that's remove, not move
[12:53] <hej> Hi, i have installed tomboy notes on windows and under preferences i can see that i can sync to tomboy web.... how do i setup a "tomboy web" server?
[12:53] <Coke> root_ninja: I haven't locked anything
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> nothingspecial:  he said MOVE not remove...
[12:53] <bazhang> Coke, the netbook edition is not easily changed.
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:53] <root_ninja> right click on the icon and see if the bottom option "lock to panel" is not ticked
[12:53] <progre55> hi guys. where has sun-java6 been moved in lucid?
[12:53] <Coke> bazhang: ok. this is on a laptop
[12:53] <neriukas> servertech network manager is missing?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> it may be 'mv -r
[12:53] <Coke> bazhang: so, how do I change it? I can't have it like it is.
[12:53] <nothingspecial> mv
[12:53] <nothingspecial> sorry
[12:53] <bazhang> progre55, partner repo
[12:53] <Coke> can I find out if this is "netbook edition" ?
[12:53] <ServerTech> I mean its not there on the panel
[12:53] <bazhang> !partner | progre55
[12:54] <ServerTech> Im using failsafe gnome
[12:54] <Sylphid> ServerTech, Alt+F2 nm-applet
[12:54] <wessel> wessel@wegumar7:~/Desktop$ sudo mv -r torcs/ /usr/share/games/
[12:54] <wessel> mv: invalid option -- 'r'
[12:54] <nothingspecial> Servertech right click add to panel
[12:54] <progre55> bazhang: thanks
[12:54] <nothingspecial> just mv
[12:54] <nettezzaumana> uff. how can i flush that ignorant sudo cache (?10 minutes) .. i can log in as root (sudo -i) even if i log out from terminal and log in there again
[12:54] <ServerTech> Its not there nothingspecial
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> gaelfx:  ive had some issues with  using a 'tv' as a pc monitor in the past also. Some of them i dont think get the display info sent to the pc properlu.
[12:54] <wessel> wessel@wegumar7:~/Desktop$ sudo mv torcs/ /usr/share/games/
[12:54] <wessel> mv: cannot move `torcs/' to `/usr/share/games/torcs': Directory not empty
[12:54] <ServerTech> I tried finding it its not there
[12:54] <[nrx]> wessel, try -R
[12:54] <Katsumi32> ServerTech,  you can always install wicd
[12:54] <root_ninja> Coke, does it look like this: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lqgKZaMB1BQ/S9km7qAH_HI/AAAAAAAAABU/SzKx5RErzYk/s1600/Ubuntu+lucid+lynx.jpg ?
[12:54] <wessel> also not valid xD
[12:54] <nothingspecial> Server Tech notification area or indicator applet, one of them
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> gaelfx:  ages ago i installed Ubuntu to a pc. using just the Svideo Out cable to a old tv. :)
[12:54] <neriukas> servertech i can see network manager too but i can do it nm-connection-editor
[12:55] <root_ninja> or http://www.pendrivelinux.com/wp-content/uploads/Ubuntu-NetBook-10.04.jpg
[12:55] <neriukas> gk nm-connection-editor
[12:55] <Coke> root_ninja: yeah
[12:55] <Coke> root_ninja: the first one
[12:55] <root_ninja> ok
[12:55] <ServerTech> Katsumi32 Hmm my internet is working but i need to use one certain internet connectection there are 3 connected to it
[12:55] <root_ninja> so what are you trying to do?
[12:55] <[nrx]> how about a copy -R then rm -rf? lol
[12:55] <Coke> root_ninja: remove an icon in the panel. like I said.
[12:55] <gaelfx> Dr_Willis: I had no problems before my hard drive fried, but now I'm trying to install again, I can't seem to use it initially, though if I had access to a normal monitor, I think the whole thing would be a non-issue
[12:55] <ServerTech> but i cant find the network icon on the panel
[12:55] <neriukas> servertech lol i said gk nm-connection-editor
[12:55] <root_ninja> is it an application launcher or something?
[12:55] <Coke> root_ninja: it's whatever is default
[12:55] <Coke> root_ninja: it's the "chat" thingy talk bubble
[12:56] <wessel> I think its the problem that my source folder is not empty
[12:56] <Coke> it also has the username to the right of it
[12:56] <wessel> there already exist a folder named torcs
[12:56] <wessel> in user/share/games
[12:56] <wessel> but I want to overwrite this
[12:56] <root_ninja> ah ok
[12:56] <[nrx]> wessel, man mv
[12:56] <[nrx]> XD
[12:56] <wessel> essel@wegumar7:~/Desktop/torcs$ mv .* /usr/share/games/torcs/
[12:56] <wessel> mv: try to overwrite `/usr/share/games/torcs/.', overriding mode 0755 (rwxr-xr-x)?
[12:57] <wessel> mv: cannot move `.' to `/usr/share/games/torcs/.': Device or resource busy
[12:57] <wessel> :-/
[12:57] <root_ninja> right click on it and make sure the bottom option "lock to panel isn't ticked"
[12:57] <ServerTech> is it a problem with "failsafe gnome"
[12:57] <Coke> root_ninja: the "lock to panel" is disabled
[12:57] <Coke> root_ninja: that is, that option is not available for me to click on
[12:57] <neriukas> logout and use gnome why u use failsafe?>
[12:57] <root_ninja> oh
[12:57] <Coke> I can only interact with "help" and "about"
[12:58] <ServerTech> neriukas : what is the exact difference?
[12:58] <ProNihilist> my usb headset is listed under the "Hardware" tab of the gnome-volume-control and the pulseaudio device chooser but not the "Output" tab, anyone know how I can make pulse see it again properly?
[12:58] <root_ninja> that is weird
[12:58] <neriukas> lol failsafe fail+safe :D or just GNOME :D
[12:59] <ServerTech> lol
[12:59] <root_ninja> Coke, could you open up gconf-editor. Press alt + f2 and type gconf-editor.
[12:59] <ServerTech> Is there any difference between the two i mean just failsafe?
[12:59] <Coke> root_ninja: yeah.
[12:59] <neriukas> server tech use GNOME , failsafe like safe mode :D i think :D
[13:00] <Coke> root_ninja: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1524333
[13:00] <ServerTech> safe mode?
[13:00] <ServerTech> i dont see difference with it
[13:00] <ServerTech> :\
[13:00] <root_ninja> expand app and then panel
[13:00] <julian-> Anyone know how to get Wubi to honour the --skipmd5check flag?
[13:01] <neriukas> default is GNOME so use gnome
[13:01] <ServerTech> ok
[13:01] <Coke> root_ninja: ok
[13:01] <root_ninja> under panel select global
[13:01] <Coke> right
[13:01] <root_ninja> look for the locked_down key
[13:02] <Coke> it's unchecked
[13:02] <root_ninja> is that "ticked"?
[13:02] <root_ninja> mmm
[13:02] <root_ninja> did you try the suggestion in that thread?
[13:02] <Coke> root_ninja: I dont get any options on login
[13:03] <root_ninja> once you have selected your user at the login screen
[13:03] <root_ninja> you can change the sessions
[13:03] <richie> Hi; what's his problem?
[13:03] <Coke> I have two other questions. 1) how do I disable the screen password lock when the screen is blanked. 2) how do I disable/fix so that avahi message about using a local domain doesnt pop up?
[13:04] <Coke> root_ninja: no.
[13:04] <nothingspecial> coke, 1 preferences screensaver/powermanagement
[13:04] <root_ninja> System -> Preferences -> screen saver
[13:05] <root_ninja> there is a tick box there to disable locking the screen
[13:05] <neriukas> coke gdmsetup remove password ask
[13:05] <Coke> Well. that first suggestion might work. unchecked the lock option
[13:06] <Coke> root_ninja: this computer is not for me, I dont want the users to choose session, they should just get this default
[13:06] <Coke> also, what is the default root pwd?
[13:06] <root_ninja> gnome should be the default session
[13:06] <root_ninja> there is none
[13:06] <root_ninja> root account is disabled
[13:06] <neriukas> root
[13:06] <Coke> so... how do I su ?
[13:06] <nothingspecial> coke, there isn`t one
[13:06] <root_ninja> sudo
[13:06] <FloodBot4> root_ninja: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:06] <root_ninja> or sudo -s to switch to root
[13:07] <pha> Hello - silly question - but when i'm installing ubuntu - how do I set it to soft raid 0?
[13:07] <coolroot> hi! i just installed conky but from the example /home/ubuntuadmin/.conkryc i would like to know where is that folder? i tried the command but it wont work
[13:07] <richie> sudo thunar /home/ubuntuadmin/.conkryc
[13:08] <richie> looks like it is hidden, so you have to be root :)
[13:08] <neriukas>  /home/your_name/.conkryc
[13:08] <TiK> trying out LM debian in a VM
[13:08] <TiK> :)
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> coolroot:  files with . at taht start are normally 'hidden'
[13:08] <collabra> !raid
[13:08] <Coke> So how do I change the panel icons? The menu options are disabled when I right click the icons.
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> coolroot:  if its in you home directory use the 'show hidden files' optuion in the file manager
[13:09] <pha> thanks collabra
[13:09] <richie> @neriukas: actually you need to do sudo nautilus  /home/ubuntuadmin/.conkryc
[13:09] <collabra> np
[13:09] <nothingspecial> coolroot, or just press H
[13:09] <neriukas> so? gksu nautilus  /home/ubuntuadmin/.conkryc
[13:09] <richie> yup.
[13:10] <nothingspecial> don`t edit .conkyrc as root
[13:10] <Guest51567> fred
[13:10] <richie> don't edit anything as root unless you need to
[13:10] <Coke> is there some text-file rc I can edit to remove these icons since the panel isn't working properly?
[13:10] <root_ninja> Coke, have you tried logging out and logging back in? tbh I have no idea what has caused these options to become unavailable.
[13:10] <Coke> root_ninja: multiple times
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Root really shouldent be running conky anyway....
[13:11] <neriukas> but i don't need root to this folders i just show hidden file " click
[13:11] <Coke> root_ninja: and even so, that's not a sollution, that's a workaround at best and the bug would have to be found and fixed anyway
[13:11] <ReggieBE> hey guys, I'm having troubles installing 4gb ram on my ubuntu. I've tried every solution I found, but ubuntu only sees 3gb (while bios recognises 4gb). I'm running a 64bit ubuntu version with the server kernels. Anyone ? :\
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> I think the user name  of 'ubuntuadmin' is confuseing people..
[13:11] <root_ninja> mmm
[13:11] <nothingspecial> coke, did you try deleting that panel and making a new one?
[13:11] <richie> @nerukias: same thing as running sudo in the terminal
[13:12] <neriukas> lol i think he want help how to show hidden files :D
[13:12] <Coke> nothingspecial: how do I delete it?
[13:12] <richie> wow...that was geeky nerukias :) :)
[13:12] <Coke> Also, I cannot do this on 10 laptops if I decide to go with this brand.
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> I think the conky question needs to begin again from the start... :)
[13:12] <neriukas> nvm i want drink :D
[13:12] <root_ninja> right click on an empty space and click delete this panel
[13:13] <richie> after that one i think we all need dome whiskey or something
[13:13] <nothingspecial> coke, I suppose if all the options are greyed out it might not let you
[13:13] <richie> *some
[13:13] <Coke> i dont seem to have any free space
[13:13] <Coke> I always get a menu for something
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> ReggieBE:  using all of 4gb is also a hardware limitatiion in that part of the ram is reserved for 'system devices' reguardless if the os is 32 or 64bit.  How much ram is missing anyway?
[13:13] <ReggieBE> 1 gig
[13:14] <pcda-knight> ReggieBE: maybe u got shared video memory?
[13:14] <ReggieBE> he recognises 2.9gB
[13:14] <richie> if you run out of space just format your hardisk, or download beachbit. preferably the latter
[13:14] <ReggieBE> pcda-knight: is there any way I can see this in ubuntu ?
[13:14] <wessel> how can I open .properties files by default with gedit?
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> ReggieBE:  that does seem a little high.  i normally see about 512mb or so 'reserved' it may also be a bios setting. Or could be some shared memory uised by the video card thats also taking some
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  right click on one,  properties, set it to open with gedit
[13:15] <wessel> now I have to right click, open with other, select gedit, remember program, then open
[13:15] <wessel> but it does not remember
[13:15] <wessel> Dr_Willis, does not work :-/
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  thats odd.. works for me.
[13:15] <ReggieBE> hm, I didn't check the video mem yet .. maybe I'll check this out first
[13:15] <ReggieBE> thnx :)
[13:16] <xbonesx> Is "ssb" a LKM or is it compiled into the base kernel of ubuntu 9.04?
[13:16] <richie> Does anyone know of a surefire way to reinstall dpkg?
[13:16] <neriukas> nop
[13:16] <richie> :|
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> richie:  Hmm. that would be tricky
[13:17] <failure> stop printing my nick all the time! :)
[13:17] <Coke> So nobody have any clue as to why I cannot change the panel in any way shape or form?
[13:17] <neriukas> richie open it gksu --description /usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop /usr/sbin/synaptic and search dpkg and reinstall
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  are you using the netbook edition? (i dident see the full problem)
[13:18] <dar___> hi!!!
[13:18] <Coke> Dr_Willis: no
[13:18] <Coke> Dr_Willis: I can't remove icons from the panel
[13:18] <Coke> Dr_Willis: that menu option is disabled
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  that is odd then.   On the netbook edition thats the default that way. Ther are some gconf settings to lock them down.  as a test you could make a new user, and see if the new users panels are also locked down like that
[13:19] <richie> Dr_Willis: don't you need dpkg to install dpkg? I was thinking of maybe taking the dpkg files off the live cd and pasting them into the appropriate folders on my harddrive
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> richie:  yea. that could get weird.. or chroot in and do it.. but even then you may have version issues..
[13:19] <Coke> Dr_Willis: why would a new user help?
[13:19] <root_ninja> Coke, you could try restoring them to default and see if you can then modify them. http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html
[13:19] <dar___> I have a very strange problem with Ubuntu 8.04 cloned machine (tar) that use RAID, in fact after update-grub and update-initramfs my RAID is not started at boot so i go in initramfs> there i can see that my mdadm.conf has change with some UID i don't know (if i change that i can boot) the problem is that i don"t understand why initramfs change its content... could you please help me
[13:19] <nothingspecial> richie, you could chroot from a live cd
[13:19] <Coke> root_ninja: how do I do that?
[13:19] <xbonesx> I need to know if "ssb" is LKM or if its compiled into the base kernel, so i know if i can blacklist it in ndiswrapper
[13:19] <xbonesx> ?
[13:19] <root_ninja> Coke, you could try restoring them to default and see if you can then modify them. http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html
[13:20] <richie> Dr_Willis: chroot. Yeah.
[13:20] <root_ninja> err
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  its a 'test' if the new user does Not have the issue.. then its your problem users settings that are the issue.. if the new user has the same problem. then its some system settings that are the problem
[13:20] <Coke> Also, this is a clean install with no extra settings or anything. I haven't chagned anything except (now) the screensaver settings
[13:20] <root_ninja> sorry
[13:20] <FloodBot4> root_ninja: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:20] <Coke> Dr_Willis: but I created a new user.
[13:20] <root_ninja> the link I posted has instructions
[13:20] <Coke> isnt the same code running for the second user also?
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  so it does affect all users the same? even one you made just moments ago?
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  the users may have different setting/defaults.. its a test.. its only a test.
[13:21] <Coke> Dr_Willis: they do? why? how do I know? is it random?
[13:21] <Coke> How do I add another user then?
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  if a user has no settings it would use the system defaults.. the defaults do NOT lock down those things.. so  either you or somthing has changed them..
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> sudo adduser billgates
[13:22] <Coke> Dr_Willis: even so. that's not good for me, I can't put my hand on every laptop that goes through the office
[13:22] <Coke> I need it to work ootb.
[13:22] <neriukas> lol bilgates
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  its a TEST.. your issue is not the default.. so try it and see if you can figure out whats going on.
[13:22] <nothingspecial> coke, it should, there is a problem with a setting somewhere
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  ive never heard of anyone else doing a desktop install and having the panels licked.
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> locked. :)
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  now the NETBOOK edition, and netbook interface. does have them locked.
[13:23] <xbonesx> I need to know if "ssb" is LKM or if its compiled into the base kernel, so i know if i can blacklist it in ndiswrapper
[13:23] <richie> Coke could also try reinstalling the xorg packages, which is what I do whenever I have panel issues.
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> richie:  err.. the xorg package shouldent have anything to do with the panel.
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[13:24] <frag4now> hi all. is there something like wgetpaste i can install?
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> frag4now:  and what does that do?
[13:24] <bazhang> frag4now, pastebinit
[13:24] <richie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1568180
[13:25] <frag4now> bazhang: thanks
[13:25] <richie> explains my xorg suggestion
[13:25] <bazhang> frag4now, pastebiniti | command
[13:25] <zealiod> how can i run freeradius (radiusd) as a single server process (using the -s flag) in the background?
[13:25] <Coke> Dr_Willis: same problem there
[13:25] <bazhang> whoops pastebinit | command frag4now
[13:25] <frag4now> Dr_Willis: http://www.question-defense.com/2009/10/22/wgetpaste-upload-directly-to-pastebin-from-the-linux-shell
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  so even a user made just moments ago has the panel locked..  -  try that 'reset panel' command the bot gave. it should cause the panel to close/reopen.  I would be suprised if that fixed it however..
[13:26] <Coke> richie & Dr_Willis: these computers are for computer illiterates to replace Windows. Yeah, if I wanted a GOOD system I'd install Archlinux and conf it myself, but the whole point of going from Windows -> Ubuntu is that I don't have to do any work.
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  your issue is weird. and not the ubuntu default. so its hard to tell what is causing the priobopem. You said you are not using the 'netbook install' cd? correct? you are using the normal gnome desktop? right?
[13:27] <Coke> Dr_Willis: I have no idea, I use fluxbox and ratpoison normally.
[13:27] <abhijit> hi
[13:27] <bazhang> Coke, please imagebin a screenshot
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  you dont even know if you are using gnome desktop or the netbook edition interface? ... that could explain a lot...
[13:27] <Coke> bazhang: of what?
[13:27] <bazhang> Coke, the interface
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> the netbook edition as we stated DOES have the panels locked by default.
[13:28] <Coke> Dr_Willis: where's the "help" with a text box that tell me?
[13:28] <bazhang> Coke, imagebin and we can tell you
[13:28] <Coke> Dr_Willis: and as I stated when that information was given to me "I haave no idea"
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  both will say the same thing in the gnome about box's.
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> Coke:   the ubuntu manual will show some screen shots also.
[13:28] <Coke> Dr_Willis: so the only difference in the netbook version and non-netbook is the settings?
[13:29] <bazhang> http://tinyurl.com/imagebin  Coke
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  netbook uses the 'netbook desktop' its still gnome underneth
[13:29] <Coke> Dr_Willis: any unique processes for it?
[13:29] <Coke> bazhang: that's not how you tell OS versions man
[13:29] <Coke> or desktop versions.
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  you can isntall both on the same pc. Im not on a netbook pc right now. so cant really recall what the proceses are called
[13:29] <bazhang> Coke, sure it is
[13:29] <ixnari> Hi. Can anyone tell me how I can access a remote Ubuntu machine (where I already have an account) so I am able to copy files to/from it?
[13:30] <abhijit> ixnari, use teamviewer
[13:30] <Coke> Dr_Willis: shouldnt the name be somewhere at least?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  you got a panel on the left and big huge icons in a 'tab like' interface?
[13:30] <Coke> Dr_Willis: not huge. small. like 16x16 perhaps
[13:30] <ixnari> abhijit: Isn't that just a VNC connection, though?
[13:30] <Coke> Dr_Willis: oh wait. you mean that panel. yes.
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  in a row x colums. not a normal type desktop eh?
[13:31] <Coke> Dr_Willis: yeah there's something on the left side
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> sounds like its the netbook interface...
[13:31] <Coke> oh fuck
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> There ya go...
[13:31] <Coke> oops sorry
[13:31] <abhijit> ixnari, you will havea 'full' control over that another maching using teamviwer. but teamviwer needs a good upload speed on both machine
[13:31] <bazhang> Coke, watch the language
[13:31] <Coke> Dr_Willis: so this laptop is useless then
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> its also 16bit OS only.. (incase you wanted 64bit)
[13:31] <Coke> bazhang: i know i know
[13:31] <Coke> Dr_Willis: you mean 32
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  netbook interface is designed for 'beginner'
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> yes. :0
[13:31] <ixnari> abhijit: Cool, thanks. The speed isn't a problem, since the machine is on my LAN
[13:31] <nothingspecial> coke, you can remove the netbook interface if you don`t want it and just have regular ubuntu
[13:31] <Coke> nothingspecial: is it easy?
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    to install the 'full' ubuntu desktop if you want it.
[13:32] <Coke> I need to spend no more than 5 minutes on each computer before handing them out
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  you proberly should be installing the normal ubuntu desktop then, not the netbook desktop versions.
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> If you in fact want the 'normal' gnome desktop
[13:32] <abhijit> ixnari, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/share-your-ubuntu-desktop-using-remote-desktop.html
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> My wife likes the netbook intface..
[13:32] <nothingspecial> coke, just a matter of removing a few packages, I can`t remeber of the top of my head, netbook-launcher maximus and one or 2 others
[13:33] <Coke> Dr_Willis: that is ok.
[13:33] <Coke> Dr_Willis: but what's up with disabling the user completely?
[13:33] <Coke> Can't change anything.
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  if you install 'ubuntu-desktop' package - you can select the netbook or 'normal' desktop at teh GDM login.
[13:33] <Coke> it's even worse than mac
[13:33] <nothingspecial> coke, but you would still have to change the behaviour of the panel
[13:33] <Coke> Dr_Willis: no selection
[13:33] <Coke> nothingspecial: I was hoping I could write a simple manual for them
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> Coke: tell it to the dev's/designers..   theres work arounds.. but they are annoying
[13:33] <frag4now> ls
[13:34] <Coke> Dr_Willis: yeah. no.
[13:34] <frag4now> ops :P sorry
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  there allerady is the 'ubuntu manual' for the normal ubuntu desktop. (free even!)
[13:34] <Coke> I got it with this laptop
[13:34] <Coke> Which is ODD considering I got the netbook edition installed
[13:34] <richie> Does CUPS print all of its print jobs in postscript? If not is there anyway I could force it to print postscript? the reason I ask is because it always take forever for the printer to process files of large data size but only a couple of pages.
[13:34] <juk> Coke, order CD, it's free I got mailed two once upon a time :D
[13:34] <nothingspecial> the laptop came preinstalled
[13:34] <neriukas> wtf talk only coke :D
[13:34] <Coke> juk: no
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  check the Login screen. perhaps it has a 'gnome' and 'netbook' options
[13:34] <Coke> ubuntu is too difficult for the target users
[13:35] <Coke> If they get options on sessions and what not from GDM that's just too much
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> If you want to write a 'manual' for the netbook  go ahead i guess.. or set them up with the normal ubuntu desktop and use the premade manual.
[13:35] <juk> Coke: well, who forcing you to use it?
[13:35] <neriukas> ubuntu? for targets people ? they should use windows not linux
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  the Netbook interface is being radically changed in 10.10 also.
[13:35] <Coke> Dr_Willis: write a manual for what? can't change what I want to change
[13:36] <Coke> juk: my options are between Windows XP, Mac and Ubuntu
[13:36] <Coke> It's getting harder and harder to find stuff that works for XP
[13:36] <nothingspecial> coke, you can change whatever you like
[13:36] <Coke> Macs cost 25% more
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> Be nice to have that big a budget that you can use mac...
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> :)
[13:36] <Coke> nothingspecial: no I cannot
[13:36] <juk> Coke: so, go for either of boloks
[13:36] <ikonia> Coke: do you have an ubuntu support question ?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> Theres ways to change the netbook interface if you really want to. but its an annoyance.
[13:37] <neriukas> i have ubuntu bible :D if you want :D
[13:37] <Coke> ikonia: i've had several
[13:37] <isilion> !iso
[13:37] <ikonia> Coke: can you please state them as it appears to be going off topic
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> If you want to totally tweak the netbook interface. you basically set up a 'gnome desktop' that   reproduces it and change what you want.
[13:37] <nothingspecial> yes you can, you just have to no how, you can completely remove the netbook interface and install {K,L,X}Ubuntu
[13:37] <Balsaq> i noticed ubuntu in my new laptop doent update on its own
[13:37] <sedulous> that ansert to !iso should really include “fuseiso”.
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> but thats not really using the 'netbook intface' so it will be called gnome in the gdm menus.
[13:37] <sedulous> *answer
[13:38] <Coke> nothingspecial: allright. yes, sure, but if I'm putting down 30 minutes of work on each machine I might as well run my slick Arch-based dist
[13:38] <neriukas> booring :)
[13:38] <Coke> nothingspecial: the whole point of buying xp, mac or ubuntu preinstalled on the lappies is that the users just boot and run
[13:38] <nothingspecial> It`s not 30 minutes work
[13:38] <kalle_> how can i make ubuntu detect when new files are added or changed and generate sha1 files for them ?
[13:38] <ikonia> Coke: can we get to the support issues please
[13:39] <Coke> ikonia: no. netbook version isn't gonna work and this lappy is only delivered with it, I guess.
[13:39] <ikonia> Coke: ok, so we can't help you then,
[13:39] <nothingspecial> coke, what do you want to do, keep UNR, or change it for regular Ubuntu
[13:39] <Martens1984> If I ping to <servername> my ubuntu tries to reach e.g. 10.1.0.1 instead of 10.0.1.1, what could be wrong?
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> i wonder what lappy that is...
[13:39] <Balsaq> why doesnt ubuntuupdate
[13:39] <Asigottech> Coke: try using live disks to check hardware support
[13:39] <Coke> nothingspecial: I want to do nothing. I want the user to be able to change their own panel without reinstalling from netbook edition to whatever the other things is
[13:39] <Coke> Asigottech: hardware is working fine, thanks for your consideration.
[13:40] <bazhang> Coke, netbook do not allow that.
[13:40] <Coke> Obviously.
[13:40] <ikonia> Coke: ok - so we can't help you any futher with your requirment
[13:40] <bazhang> Coke, so switch to normal ubuntu, or accept that fact
[13:40] <Coke> Dr_Willis: thanks a bunch for your time, mate
[13:40] <Coke> and all the others.
[13:40] <neriukas> :)
[13:40] <Coke> bazhang: this laptop does not come with "normal" ubuntu it seems
[13:40] <Coke> I didn't know it was a crippled version when I bought it
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  what brand laptop is it that comes with the netgbook interface?
[13:41] <Coke> it just said "comes with ubuntu"
[13:41] <Asigottech> Coke: link
[13:41] <bazhang> easily remedied as was said previously.
[13:41] <Coke> it says "stylenote"
[13:41] <JoeMaverickSett> Balsaq: if you want your system to get updated, go to System>Administration>Update Manager, then you would be able to update your system.
[13:41] <Coke> bazhang: the whole point of buying a complete laptop is that I have to do NOTHING
[13:41] <Coke> if I have to do SOMETHING, it's a no go
[13:41] <ikonia> Coke: you have a choice of installing ubuntu or accepting the limitations
[13:41] <ikonia> Coke: then it's a no go
[13:41] <Coke> ikonia: or getting macs
[13:41] <Coke> Which, unfortunately, seem to be the only option. :P
[13:42] <ikonia> Coke: I'm not interested in that, this is a support discussion channel, lets keep with that
[13:42] <nothingspecial> coke, see this http://maketecheasier.com/unlock-gnome-panel-in-ubuntu-netbook-edition-une/2010/04/25
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> setitng up users with a 'netbook' or a 'mac' hmm...  somthign seems weird here. But i got to check on teh wife..
[13:42] <Balsaq> JoeMaverickSett, yes I updated it but it should doiy on its own
[13:42] <Asigottech> Coke: http://stylenote.eu/en-uk/index.html
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> Its possible the company has teh normal ubuntu desktop setup as a GDM menu item also
[13:43] <Coke> Dr_Willis: yeah, I'm running out of options. most lappies are only delivered with winblows and god knows everybody hates that. so they said "Get us macs, we want something that works out of the box" and someone said "hey try these with ubuntu" and being a linux geek I tried it.
[13:43] <elky> Coke, since we can't provide you with Netbook House Elf Edition, is there some other question we could try answer?
[13:43] <Coke> Nah. I'm good. Thanks.
[13:44]  * Asigottech bangs head aginst wall
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  that company does not sell them with ubuntu preinstalled from what i can tell.. so someone installed the netbook editiion on that pc. instead of the normal desktop edition.
[13:45] <JoeMaverickSett> Balsaq: if you want it to be automatically update, you could go to Settings under that window and check "Install Security updates without confirmation" but it's not advisable. it is better that you know what you are updating, IMO.
[13:45] <sCOTTo> hey guys - can someone tell me - if I want to run Virtual servers - which is better - normal Ubuntu Server - or Enterprise cloud ??
[13:45] <ikonia> sCOTTo: depends if you've got a cloud infrastructure
[13:45] <Coke> Dr_Willis: http://www.ggsdata.se/index.php
[13:46] <sCOTTo> ikonia:   I dont have ANYTHING yet - could you tell me what a cloud is all about ?
[13:46] <sCOTTo> ikonia:   I may end up building it that way lol
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  i cant even tell what language that is. :)
[13:46] <Coke> Dr_Willis: here's what I dont understand in their thinking. They allow the user to sudo, they allow the user to gconf-editor, but not remove an icon from the panel?
[13:46] <`Xander`> hi..need help on making my tv tuner work >.<
[13:46] <maco> Dr_Willis: se = swedish
[13:46] <ikonia> sCOTTo: cloud computing is expensive as a host provider, if you don't know what it is, I'd stuck with a simple vm enviornment on ubuntu server
[13:47] <ikonia> Coke: contact them - we cannot progress this futher
[13:47] <nothingspecial> coke, did you see that link I gave you to unlock the panel, should take 1 minute
[13:47] <sCOTTo> ikonia:   I am installing a virtual server and whacking a windows VirtualBox on it (Windows Server 2008) and maybe more as time goes on
[13:47] <Coke> nothingspecial: no.
[13:47] <ikonia> sCOTTo: then an ubuntu server with vm's wouldd be more than good
[13:47] <sCOTTo> Dr_Willis:   thats Swedish ;)
[13:48] <Coke> nothingspecial: 1m is acceptable.
[13:48] <sCOTTo> ikonia:   thanks brother :D ur always a great help :D
[13:48] <nothingspecial> here ya go http://maketecheasier.com/unlock-gnome-panel-in-ubuntu-netbook-edition-une/2010/04/25
[13:48] <ikonia> sCOTTo: no problem
[13:48] <sCOTTo> :D
[13:48] <sCOTTo> talk soon - exit ;)
[13:48] <`Xander`> hi..need help on making my tv tuner work
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  its been discussed in the 'netbook interface' forums.  but as i said..  in 10.10 the Netbook interface has been radically changed.  If your want the users to have a 'normal' type desktop. You will want the Normal ubuntu/gnome interface. its possible someone at the company just put the wrong cd in the drive and isntalled the netbook version by mistake.
[13:49] <abhijit> !tv | `Xander`
[13:49] <pcda-knight> what xorg version is Ubuntu 10.4.1?
[13:49] <pcda-knight> !xorg
[13:49] <abhijit> !info xorg
[13:49] <abhijit> pcda-knight, ^^
[13:49] <pcda-knight> so that's 7.5 then?
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  the screen shot at the bootom of http://www.ggsdata.se/index.php  is showing the normal ubuntu desktop interface. not the netbook intface
[13:49] <`Xander`> thank you :D
[13:50] <`Xander`> thank you abhijit :D
[13:50] <golemz> does this ring any bells? I'm trying to install from usb, and i can choose the memory test and change boot flag options, but when i try to hit enter to install to hdd or boot from cd, it just flashes and doesn't leave the boot menu
[13:50] <abhijit> `Xander`, np
[13:50] <Coke> Dr_Willis: yeah. because who wants their computer locked?
[13:51] <Coke> Dr_Willis: didn't know they would come with a crippled version tho
[13:51] <Coke> Dr_Willis: anyway. big up for your help
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  some say Macs are crippled also.. but thats OT. :)
[13:51] <pcacjr_> i would like to know if there is any way to disable thah window which gives us the options "Try ubuntu" or "Install ubuntu" from the ubuntu livecd.
[13:51] <Coke> Dr_Willis: well, they do everything the user needs out of the box, and that's exactly what I want. too much hands on with vista and win7.
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> yea  i found the english button at that page.. :)
[13:52] <pcacjr_> is there any specific file which i should look into ?
[13:52] <Coke> im off to drink all configuration sorrows away now.
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> Coke:  ive not really heard you mention the users needs.. so i cant really advise more.. I seems like that company inztalled the wrong OS.. perhaps call them up.
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> I guess the default netbook wallpaper needs to say 'caution this is the netbook edition' ? :)
[13:53] <pcda-knight> same with windows netbook edition (aka Starter), it's also very limited
[13:53] <pcda-knight> but he left
[13:53] <Tuplad> I would like to dual boot with Windows, should I first install grub and then Windows or vice versa ?
[13:53] <abhijit> how to set current fullscreen photo in f-spot as desktop background? whats the shortcut key?
[13:53] <nothingspecial> windows first then ubuntu
[13:53] <abhijit> Tuplad, first install windows and then install linxu
[13:53] <Tuplad> Ubuntu is already installed ;\
[13:54] <haywardgb> Ubuntu ROCKS ;)
[13:54] <nothingspecial> possible, never done it
[13:54] <bazhang> Tuplad, then update grub
[13:54] <jatt> Install windows then linux
[13:54] <abhijit> !fixgrub | Tuplad you can still install windwos but after than you need to only do one step (which is imp) recover grub. this is how =
[13:54] <bazhang> !grub2 | Tuplad
[13:54] <abhijit> how to set current fullscreen photo in f-spot as desktop background? whats the shortcut key?
[13:54] <bazhang> abhijit, grub2
[13:54] <abhijit> bazhang, i see
[13:55] <jimcooncat> Tuplad: or consider running Windows under it using KVM or Virtualbox
[13:55] <Tuplad> jimcooncat: not something I'd like to do
[13:55] <Tuplad> so I'll have to install Windows and then screw around with grub, sounds fair
[13:55] <bazhang> Tuplad, so the grub2 wiki covers it
[13:55] <bazhang> Tuplad, not difficult at all
[13:56] <coz_> abhijit,  under  Edit   Set as desktop background....is there a keybinding listed there?
[13:57] <Tuplad> bazhang: I guess this is the one ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD
[13:57] <abhijit> coz_, there is no shortcut key
[13:57] <coz_> mm
[13:57] <[nrx]> I'm back! :D
[13:57] <coz_> abhijit,  ok hol don let me check
[13:57] <bazhang> Tuplad, that would work
[13:57] <abhijit> coz_, ok
[13:57] <abhijit> [nrx], welcome back!
[13:57] <[nrx]> bazhang, reinstalled with the alternate ncurses install. It's installed but wont boot.. seems to hang again when firing up X :|
[13:59] <abstraction> I'm having problems with the package management. It froze during the post-installation of samba and now I don't know how to undo the damage. Oh, I'm using Maverick Meerkat.
[13:59] <bazhang> abstraction, #ubuntu+1 for 10.10
[14:00] <abstraction> bazhang, thanks :)
[14:00] <nothingspecial> abstraction, apt-get install -f
[14:00] <[nrx]> uh
[14:00] <sCOTTo> ikonia:   sorry to batter you with questions, but how should I set up the disks? I have 2 x twin 1 TB Drives. Should I be Striping them or mirroring or using them just normally ?
[14:00] <Tuplad> if there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst to back-up, should I just continue ?
[14:00] <[nrx]> "open /dev/null: no such file or directory"
[14:00] <[nrx]> :o
[14:00] <abhijit> Tuplad, which version of ubuntu you are using?
[14:01] <Tuplad> 10.04
[14:01] <Tuplad> dowloaded 2 days ago from ubuntu site
[14:01] <sCOTTo> hehehe who is screwing rounf /dev/nll = rubbish bin lol
[14:01] <coz_> abhijit,  I am finding no references for that keyboard shortcut   I am going to check shotwell which will replace f-spot in ubuntu maverick hold on
[14:01] <abhijit> Tuplad, you will not have menu.lst dont care about it.
[14:01] <abhijit> !grub2 > Tuplad
[14:01] <abstraction> nothingspecial, thanks, I'll try that. If it doesn't work, I'm heading to #ubuntu+1. Bye everyone!
[14:01] <abhijit> coz_, i have weblider for webshot and flicker photo which have a shortcut 'w' for wallpaper
[14:02] <Tuplad> abhijit: I'm on that page
[14:02] <abhijit> Tuplad, good.
[14:02] <Tuplad> abhijit: ok, alright, I'll try it now
[14:02] <julian-> How can I get the basic Gnome menus up via the keyboard/
[14:02] <Tuplad> I'll let you know in an hour or so how it went :p
[14:02] <[nrx]> Ctrl + Esc
[14:02] <julian-> (I have epic overscan and literally cannot see them)
[14:02] <abhijit> Tuplad, ok
[14:02] <coz_> abhijit,  mm  well hold on while I install shotwell to see if it has a desktop background options
[14:02] <abhijit> julian-, alt f1
[14:02] <abhijit> coz_, ok
[14:03] <coz_> abhijit,  it does indeed  .. the keybinding is ctrl+b   and there is appa for shotwell as well
[14:03] <sCOTTo> ahhh
[14:03] <coz_> abhijit,    http://yorba.org/shotwell/install/
[14:03]  * sCOTTo has gone to #ubuntu-server
[14:03] <abhijit> coz_, ok i wll give shotwell a try
[14:03] <sCOTTo> thanks :D
[14:04] <coz_> abhijit,  click the "Ubuntu" radio button and the ppa directions should show up
[14:04] <abhijit> coz_, thanks for your time! :D
[14:04] <abhijit> yah
[14:04] <coz_> abhijit,  no problem... and remember  shotwell replaces f-spot in the next ubuntu release :)
[14:04] <abhijit> coz_, yah now i am reporting bug for f-spot not having shortcut for wallpaper :)
[14:05] <julian-> No chance anyone knows of a magical GUI app to configure custom resolutions?
[14:05] <julian-> (/fix overscan)
[14:05] <coz_> abhijit,  ok for as much good as that will do  :)
[14:05] <abhijit> coz_, yah
[14:05] <neriukas> i think better should be better that ubuntu should remove games from install cd :D
[14:05] <abhijit> !resolution | julian-
[14:06] <abhijit> neriukas, i agree with you
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> neriukas:  they need to include Tetris during the install process... :)
[14:06] <[nrx]> It seems there are known problems with this laptop and GFX
[14:06] <[nrx]> :\
[14:06] <neriukas> and remove movie player and install vlc-player much better pc vlc use lower rams
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> neriukas:  ive seen a few disrtos that load up Solitare, or Tetris while they install. :) ages ago.
[14:07] <neriukas> dr_willis : i just remove games to safe space
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> neriukas:  all 4 of them.. or how ever few there was. :)
[14:08] <Brandano> is there a way to prefetch all data when doing a do-dist-upgrade?
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> thats all the wife does on her pc.. plays 2 games
[14:08] <neriukas> i don;t play i just play with gnome-terminal :D
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> neriukas:  theres text based space invaders and other games.. :)
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> ascii-invaders or somthing like that
[14:09] <neriukas> dr_willis : LOl :D
[14:09] <nothingspecial> I like boggle in the bsdgames package
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> neriukas:  try the 'aalib' output to mplayer some time. to watch videos in ascii also
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> !info bbdemo
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> brb.
[14:10] <neriukas> dr_willis: ok :)
[14:14] <neriukas> dr willis i know 4 games only :D i use 10.04 ubuntu lucid lynx :D so i don't remove it because just 4games :D
[14:15] <neriukas> the best soft with i use always is transmision for torrents :D
[14:15] <neriukas> lol
[14:16] <neriukas> i download torrents most time :D
[14:16] <bazhang> !ot | neriukas
[14:17] <neriukas> lol thanks :D
[14:17] <at05gt> mornin Ub's
[14:17] <abhijit> how to disable and/or remove ppa from terminal?
[14:18] <ineedhelp> i'm in desperate need of some help! a feew months ago i updated firefox and it stoped working. when i try to open ff it ends up in sleeping mode. i tried to unistall and reinstall, but i can't even seem to find the program in the programs list. anyone who knows what might be the problem and how to correct it? i'm very new in ubuntu by the way.
[14:18] <nothingspecial> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # infront of it
[14:19] <Mrcheesenips> ineedhelp, type sudo aptitude remove firefox
[14:19] <Mrcheesenips> in terminal
[14:19] <Mrcheesenips> Sometimes you need to use the terminal for things
[14:19] <ineedhelp> ok , i'll try that
[14:19] <neriukas> wait, ineedhelp do you see ff in programs list?
[14:19] <abhijit> coz_, are you one of the team of yorba?
[14:20] <ineedhelp> neriukas, no, i don't
[14:20] <Mrcheesenips> And this may also help: http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-New-Ubuntu-User-Guide-Install-and-Uninstall-Software-49979.shtml
[14:20] <neriukas> ok don't uninstall
[14:20] <geirha> abhijit: You rename the .list file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/. E.g.  sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/blah-ppa-lucid.list{,.disabled}
[14:20] <abhijit> ??????????????
[14:21] <abhijit> geirha, what is this?
[14:21] <neriukas> open alacarte and insert ff to menu
[14:21] <geirha> abhijit: Assuming you added it with add-apt-repository
[14:21] <abhijit> geirha, oh sorry. i just forgot that i asked question about ppa . :D
[14:22] <abhijit> geirha, thanks mate. but was looking for some simple command rather than editing a file
[14:22] <neriukas> ineedhelp: Can you open it? firefox %u
[14:22] <[nrx]> where can I download older versions of Ubuntu?
[14:22] <ineedhelp> sorry, what is alacarte?
[14:23] <neriukas> releases.ubuntu.com
[14:23] <neriukas> try open ff firefox %u
[14:23] <geirha> abhijit: I don't think there is any. There's a third-party ppa-purge command available in the xorg edgers ppa. It'll disable a ppa AND also downgrade all packages that was upgraded using that ppa.
[14:23] <abhijit> !release | [nrx]
[14:23] <ineedhelp> ok
[14:23] <abhijit> geirha, ok
[14:24] <neriukas> terminal >> firefox %u < opened?
[14:24] <neriukas> works?
[14:24] <nothingspecial> alacarte is system > preferences > main menu
[14:24] <geirha> abhijit: Though strictly, the command I gave doesn't edit a file, it only renames it so it doesn't end with .list. You can rename it back to enable it again.
[14:24] <[nrx]> thanks
[14:24] <abhijit> geirha, hmm
[14:25] <nothingspecial> join #ubuntu-forums
[14:25] <coz_> abhijit,  no I am not sorry for the delay
[14:25] <abhijit> coz_, np
[14:25] <sassieston> hi, I'm looking for a thumbnail viewer that only loads the images that are on screen, I want to be able to view the thumbnails of a directory with 400,000 images in it. I just made a little python script that can do it, but it's not interactive enough(I'm no good at pygtk)
[14:26] <abhijit> nothingspecial, /j #ubuntu-forums
[14:26] <Martens1984> How do I kill a zombie process
[14:27] <at05gt> cut its head off and burn it with fire
[14:27] <at05gt> ohhh zombie PROCESS
[14:27] <at05gt> sorry
[14:27] <neriukas> gnome-system-monitor if u use gnome
[14:27] <neriukas> and end process
[14:28]  * abhijit is giving a try to shotwell
[14:29] <neeraj> Hi, all my disk space seems to be gone somewhere. How to fix this?
[14:29] <Ichat> i tryed to google but  :   is there a way to install ubuntu,    on 1gb   flashdisk,  with   stuf like    /home     on a fileserver   (iow some kind of  embedded).      i noticed that my device get rather how and   flashdrives tend to take les engergy etc etc.
[14:29] <neeraj> I have been deleting things.. but after some time again the empty space comes down to few mb only
[14:29] <zubair> Hi, i am having problems with hdmi output from my pc to tv...it seems to be working fine with Vista
[14:29] <neriukas> neeraj sudo apt-get install bleachbit
[14:30] <sedulous> neeraj: “ncdu” (console) and “baobab” (GTK) are useful interactive tools to find and eliminate disk space hogs
[14:30] <neriukas> and clean up system
[14:30] <Ichat> there is some talk about,   usb creatores etc.  but non about howto mount  the 'persistant'  stuff on  a remote storage of some kind
[14:30] <robert83a2> hello, I've just installed latest ubuntu server, my question is how do I make the system boot verbose ? (kinda like CentOS). Currently I turn on the system no GRUB menu comes up, no nothing only after 10-15 sec login.
[14:31] <neriukas> no grub menu?
[14:31] <robert83a2> the entire screen is black
[14:31] <robert83a2> till I get to the USER login
[14:32] <robert83a2> GeForce 2 MX (if this is the culprit)
[14:33] <neriukas> after loin you start normally gnome?
[14:33] <Ichat>  robert83a2  - to clarify ...   after bios your screen blancs ?????
[14:34] <FernandoBasso> What package ships the "Courier 10 Pitch" font ?
[14:34] <robert83a2> yep, I did a minimal install, I only need the console, computer starts up, then I see a _ , then nothing blank screen, then I see login and I can work with the system fine. I would like to enable verbose boot, starting services...etc...
[14:34] <zubair> i am unable to watch the PC output via hdmi in my tv
[14:34] <FernandoBasso> (I also did a minimal install)
[14:34] <Ichat> !repeat zubair
[14:34] <b0ot> Is there a way to get a process id or something when I call something, so that I could kill it later if I wanted to?
[14:35] <ineedhelp> i can open firefox but the screen goes dark and i can't do anything
[14:35] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[14:36] <FernandoBasso> b0ot: ps ax | grep <you_app>
[14:36] <BluesKaj> ineedhelp, can you open any other browser?
[14:36] <ineedhelp> yea, i can open arora
[14:37] <BluesKaj> ineedhelp, recent installed ubuntu ?
[14:37] <b0ot> FernandoBasso, Is there a way to attach something to a process when you call it... I have multiple instances of vlc going and when I call one I want to either know that specific process id so i can kill it later, or attach some sort of handle to it so I can kill it later
[14:37] <BluesKaj> recently
[14:37] <ineedhelp> no
[14:37] <wensleydale> Hello peoples. Since I did a clean upgrade to xubuntu 10.04 my startup screen and tty1-6 flicker. Can anyone help?
[14:38] <BluesKaj> upgraded then, ineedhelp
[14:38] <ineedhelp> yea
[14:38] <FernandoBasso> b0ot: That command I showed you will show what it is playing, I think. Then you will known what instance to kill. I have no other idea.
[14:38] <BluesKaj> !who |ineedhelp,
[14:38] <robert83a2> did It, I removed from grub.conf the quiet option
[14:38] <robert83a2> just need to tweak it a bit to make it prettier... the resoltuion during grub boot is way to low
[14:38] <robert83a2> thanky ou
[14:39] <robert83a2> anyway
[14:39] <ineedhelp> ok
[14:39] <BluesKaj> ineedhelp, ubuntu-restricted-extras installed ?
[14:39] <Ichat> robert83a2:  - good ;) -  see what you can do -   ;)
[14:42] <BluesKaj> ineedhelp, yes sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:43] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu-restricted-extras | ineedhelp
[14:43] <neriukas> nice ;)
[14:44] <FloridaGuy> trying to find the 10.04 netinstall iso....cant find it
[14:44] <IdleOne> !minimal
[14:45] <neriukas> releases.ubuntu.com
[14:46] <neriukas> idleone nice speed :D
[14:46] <BluesKaj> FloridaGuy, perhaps you mean the alternate install
[14:48] <soroush> HI, i've installed ubuntu10.04 using its CD but i have no internet connection. To install wireless driver I should do apt-get install build-essential but I have no internet connection. How can I download all necessary packages in Windows
[14:49] <neriukas> you can install build from cd of ubuntu
[14:49] <BluesKaj> soroush, which wifi driver ?
[14:49] <soroush> BluesKaj: 1397 miniCard Intell on Inspiron 1564
[14:49] <cjjnjust> hello, recommend a player to me.
[14:50] <dotblank> hmm is the wallpaper-tray applet discontinued?
[14:50] <soroush> BluesKaj: I wanna follow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1352270
[14:50] <pcacjr_> where is the user dir from the ubuntu lived located ?
[14:50] <bazhang> !players | cjjnjust
[14:50] <neriukas> cjjnjust vlc player :P
[14:50] <BluesKaj> soroush, is that for a regular wifi connection ?
[14:50] <cjjnjust> now i use totem player
[14:50] <soroush> BluesKaj: I wanna connect internet through wifi. yes
[14:51] <neriukas> !wallpapers
[14:51] <madjoe> how to use grep if I want to see whether a document contain "X" AND "Y" phrases?
[14:51] <abhijit> !factoid | neriukas
[14:51] <cjjnjust> I can see some line on the movies
[14:52] <neriukas> !lol
[14:52] <geirha> madjoe: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/079
[14:52] <neriukas> :D
[14:52] <BluesKaj> soroush, you aren't running ubuntu on wubi tho , right ?
[14:52] <bazhang> neriukas, please stop that
[14:52] <robert83a2> heh, I did a apt-get install openssh-server, I did a /etc/init.d/sshd start , it started...yet I cannot connect to this machine...
[14:52] <bitplane> Hi, I have a quick question about the next version of Ubuntu: did they get rid of that bloody awful updates pop-up in 10.10?
[14:52] <miyamoto> iam having troble in connectin audio output after installing ubuntu in my dell inspiron 14r laptop so can any one help me
[14:52] <jrib> robert83a2: how are you trying?
[14:52] <maedox> robert83a2, output of ufw status?
[14:52] <bazhang> bitplane, #ubuntu+1 for that
[14:53] <soroush> BluesKaj: I installed Ubuntu using wubi
[14:53] <bitplane> thanks bazhang
[14:53] <cjjnjust> hello, I play rmvb files. and the effect is bad
[14:53] <abhijit> cjjnjust, try vlc
[14:53] <robert83a2> ufw is inactive
[14:53] <Maco_MOTU> I would like to install two linux distributions as dual boot, how can i do that?
[14:54] <madjoe> geirha: just what I need.. thanks!
[14:54] <robert83a2> I just did a apt-get install openssh-server, /etc/init.d/sshd start, and try to connect to server via putty
[14:54] <robert83a2> the strange thing is I don't know why...but my /etc/ssh/sshd.conf is empty....
[14:54] <BluesKaj> !pm | ineedhelp
[14:54] <neriukas> !codecs | neriukas
[14:54] <maedox> robert83a2, dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server
[14:54] <jrib> robert83a2: can you "ssh localhost"?
[14:54] <robert83a2> will try sec
[14:55] <maedox> robert83a2, the config files are in /etc/ssh/ssh_config and sshd_config
[14:55] <maedox> robert83a2, as I said, output of ufw status please.
[14:55] <robert83a2> ufw inactive... sshd.config is only a placeholder then
[14:55] <robert83a2> ssh localhost connection reset by peer... I will check ssh_config then
[14:55] <wessel> Hello, I have a problem with file associations, when I right click somefile.properties and say open with > other > gedit [x] remember this decision for "plain text documents" it does not remember
[14:56] <hekinami> Maco_MOTU: just configure your grub in a right way
[14:56] <maedox> also check /etc/hosts.deny and hosts.allow
[14:56] <jrib> robert83a2: you're being too vague
[14:56] <wessel> I need to repeat this step every time I wish to open a document in gedit
[14:56] <robert83a2> sorry, sshd_config exists but It is empty, ssh_config has a few lines
[14:56] <maedox> wessel, select other application then gedit and remember.
[14:56] <jrib> robert83a2: are you talking about /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[14:56] <robert83a2> jrib : yes sorry
[14:56] <madjoe> geirha: umm... but when I try my grep recursively then this methid fails :(
[14:56] <maedox> robert83a2, apt-get purge openssh-server, apt-get install openssh-server
[14:56] <jrib> robert83a2: what version of ubuntu is this?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> soroush, do yo have access to windows from ubuintu , if so then download the package to windows and copy it from there in ubuntu and follow that tutorial you posted
[14:57] <robert83a2> I just downloaded the latest server edition 32 bit
[14:57] <jrib> !version | robert83a2
[14:57] <wessel> maedox, does not work also
[14:57] <Yan_Nick> HELP! My site is down, but the server and the apache are running, what can I do? It's very important :'(
[14:57] <maedox> robert83a2, what does not work? apt-get?
[14:57] <rrittenhouse_> Yan_Nick, What is the address? let me try and get to it
[14:57] <madjoe> geirha: grep -lr "revision" --include=*.class.php --exclude-dir=*new* ./ | grep "myphrase"
[14:58] <wessel> maedox, I open with abiword, or with vim, in any case they never get remembered
[14:58] <abhijit> anyone can confirm that ethernet card comsumps less power compared to wirelss ? and thus generate less temperature?
[14:58] <soroush> BluesKaj: but I don't know which packages to download because apt-get gets all independencies
[14:58] <Yan_Nick> rrittenhouse_: i pm'ed you the address
[14:58] <wessel> it's like this functionality "remember this decision" is turned off
[14:58] <madjoe> geirha: myphrase will just reduce my list from the first grep by looking myphrase in paths of those files, which is not what I want :(
[14:58] <IdleOne> abhijit: ##hardware
[14:58] <maedox> robert83a2, sorry, I can't read, took the wrong nick again :P
[14:58] <rrittenhouse_> Yan_Nick, Ok. I'm getting just a "waiting" here.
[14:58] <Yan_Nick> rrittenhouse_: yeah, but what's up there?
[14:58] <soroush> BluesKaj: Isn't a DVD to download which contain all ubuntu packages?
[14:58] <Yan_Nick> apache is running and the server too
[14:59] <maedox> wessel, weird. do you have issues with other config not remembered? it could be a permission issue.
[14:59] <abhijit> IdleOne, just came out from there. no one in serious mood there. everyone taling some fantasy discussios
[14:59] <rrittenhouse_> Yan_Nick, Is it supposed to deny pings?
[14:59] <geirha> madjoe: find . -name "*new*" -prunt -o -type f -name "*.class.php" -exec grep -Fq revision {} \; -exec grep -Fq myphrase {} \; -print
[14:59] <Yan_Nick> rrittenhouse_: no
[14:59] <rrittenhouse_> Yan_Nick, I can't even ping it.
[14:59] <IdleOne> abhijit: sorry to hear that but your questions has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[14:59] <wessel> maedox, I do not know the answer, maybe yes, maybe no
[14:59] <geirha> madjoe: Oops, typo.  -prunt -> -prune
[14:59] <robert83a2> thank you, I just did it, the apt-get purge open-ssh server, then apt-get install openssh-server , and now my sshd_conf is populated and I can connect
[14:59] <abhijit> IdleOne, yah
[14:59] <Yan_Nick> rrittenhouse_: i'm able :-/
[15:00] <madjoe> geirha: I'll try it, thanks again
[15:00] <BluesKaj> soroush, can you connect with ethernet temporarily while on ubuntu ?
[15:00] <robert83a2> also thank you for the aditional commands, I'm pretty new to Ubuntu, moved from CentOS (cause I'm trying to get linux certified and cannot find a CentOS affordable certificate institution near me)
[15:01] <geirha> madjoe: Also see http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind
[15:01] <soroush> BluesKaj: unfortunately I couldn't  establish this connection. Connection was ok, but ping failed
[15:01] <robert83a2> by the way it was 10.04
[15:02] <uRock> you guys need to stop with the floodbots, logging into this place shouldn't require jumping through hoops
[15:02] <jrib> uRock: unfortunately, it's either that or allow spam in the channel.  It's only required during attacks
[15:02] <wessel> what is the command to create an empty file?
[15:02] <jrib> wessel: touch
[15:03] <uRock> ok, I was scared it was gonna be like that every day
[15:03] <IdleOne> uRock: register your nick and you wont have to go jumping anything
[15:03] <uRock> it is
[15:03] <uRock> that's why I didn't understand why
[15:03] <jrib> uRock: it is now, but now when your client tried to join
[15:04] <geekphreak> howdy all
[15:04] <jrib> s/now when/not when
[15:04] <IdleOne> uRock: your client is identifying after joining channels, you are being sent to unregged because of that.
[15:04] <BluesKaj> soroush, you can enable the cd/dvdrom in your package manager and uncheck all other sources , then try to install the drivers with apt-gert as described in the tutorial.then once you have the wifi cionnection working recheck all the other sources and disable cd/dvdrom repository/source
[15:04] <uRock> darn xchat, thanks for clarifying
[15:05] <IdleOne> uRock: keeping in mind that your client is identifying, you should be able to /join #ubuntu without answering the bots question
[15:05] <maedox> wessel, you can also use >filename but that will empty an existing file.
[15:06] <madjoe> geirha: wow... this is so powerful
[15:06] <abhijit> Dr_Willis, hey i solved that my TC issue in dosbox. it turns out that my TC was corrupted. so now i bring new clean TC and it is running in dos box!
[15:06] <dragon> I've attached a USB printer to my box and I don't see an option to add it. What do?
[15:06] <bodai> hi there
[15:07] <bodai> I need a jpeg compressor,but didn't find any for linux
[15:07] <bodai> searched with google without any succes
[15:08] <madjoe> bodai: jpeg is already a compressed file!
[15:08] <smerz> less spamming now
[15:08]  * smerz likes it
[15:08] <bodai> i need to compress from 100% to 50%
[15:08] <dr0id> guys, how to see my CPU load ?
[15:08] <madjoe> bodai: good luck with that!
[15:09] <collabra> bodai: have you tried GIMP
[15:09] <AndrewMC> dr0id: System> Administration> System Monitor
[15:09] <geirha> bodai: imagemagick's convert(1) or mogrify(1) should be able to do that ... if you want to do it on the command line that is.
[15:09] <bodai> yes,but i would like to do that for many files
[15:09] <bodai> thanks
[15:09] <abhijit> how to come out of the dos box? it captures my mouse and dotn want to release it!
[15:10] <h3x> When I try to change to a TTY with ctrl+shift+F*, I get a black screen and no CLI. Are the TTY's disabled by default in ubuntu?
[15:10] <dr0id> AndrewMC: it has 100s of columns but CPU% has values only for 3-5 of them
[15:10] <dr0id> why so ?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> ! imagemagick |bodai
[15:10] <geekphreak> h3x: which ubuntu version?
[15:10] <Maco_MOTU> hekinami: Will other linux distro as dual boot affect ubuntu?
[15:10] <abhijit> where can i get dos box help?
[15:10] <h3x> latest LTS
[15:10] <h3x> lucid
[15:10] <geekphreak> h3x: its ctrl+alt+f%
[15:11] <geirha> h3x: No, there should be 6 ttys. Sure it's not just the screensaver? hit space or something.
[15:11] <dr0id> someone please help me, I am in a very bad situatuon :(
[15:11] <AndrewMC> dr0id: go to the resources tab
[15:11] <dr0id> heya abhijit, madad karo
[15:11] <Maco_MOTU> abhijit: dos box- terminal?
[15:11] <abhijit> dr0id, what?
[15:11] <dr0id> I have Process Table and System Load
[15:11] <h3x> yeah, that's what i meant geekphreak
[15:11] <BluesKaj> bodai, http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php
[15:11] <abhijit> Maco_MOTU, what should i set the directories in TC after mounting it in dos box?
[15:11] <abhijit> :(
[15:12] <dr0id> abhijit: want to check my CPU load
[15:12] <dr0id> my web app is causing our server to crash
[15:12] <geekphreak> dr0id: open system monitor?
[15:12] <abhijit> dr0id, what you are talking about? why should i wanted to check your cpu load?
[15:12] <dr0id> we need to do something all our 43 users are complaing :(
[15:12] <FredFlinstone> is there acounting packages for ubuntu?
[15:12] <FredFlinstone> canadian even?
[15:13] <dr0id> geekphreak: one question, it has 100s of rows, but only 3-5 of them have values under CPU%
[15:13] <dr0id> why so ?
[15:13] <AndrewMC> dr0id: go to the resources tab on the top you will get a summary of total system load
[15:13] <abhijit> dr0id, http://ubuntuguide.net/howto-view-and-limit-process-cpu-usage-in-ubuntu-linux
[15:13] <bodai> thank you
[15:13] <dr0id> AndrewMC: I just have Process table and System Load
[15:14] <abhijit> dr0id, use powertop for maxium power usage
[15:14] <dr0id> AndrewMC: I c, I am on KDE not Gnome
[15:15] <pcda-knight> cant get any hdmi audio on ubuntu 10.4.1 and nvidia ion2 with latest 256.x
[15:15] <Maco_MOTU> IdleOne:
[15:15] <Spyzer> hi all
[15:15] <geekphreak> IdleOne: howdy long time
[15:15] <Spyzer> i am getting this kinda error while "make"ing a source /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl
[15:15] <Spyzer> what should i do
[15:16] <Spyzer> ??
[15:16] <IdleOne> heya geekphreak
[15:16] <icy`> hi, getting a "Warning: unable to find a suitable fs in /proc/mounts, is it mounted?
[15:16] <icy`> Use --subdomainsfs to override."  on startup, and this affects my ability to mount a vboxsf share
[15:16] <geirha> Spyzer: aptitude search 'perl.*-dev'   # you'll need the correct dev-package for perl.
[15:16] <smerz> Anyone knows when update kernel security patch comes out?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> !ledger | FredFlinstone
[15:17] <FredFlinstone> any canadian accounting packages for ubuntu?
[15:17] <FredFlinstone> ledger ?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> !EekBoek |FredFlinstone,
[15:18] <hcook> specifically canadian? or would something like gnucash work for you?
[15:18] <FredFlinstone> is the bot broke?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> whatwrong wiyjr bot?
[15:18] <dr0id> question, why most of them under CPU% don't have any value here -> http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9440/explain.png ??
[15:19] <BluesKaj> !ubottu
[15:19] <FredFlinstone> No results found for "canadian accounting packages for ubuntu".
[15:19] <pcda-knight> cant get any hdmi audio on ubuntu 10.4.1 and nvidia ion2 with latest 256.x
[15:19] <hekinami> Maco_MOTU: you can just use the grub of the distro you prefer and ignore the others
[15:20] <Kre10s> hey where can I find the latest tutorial on programming applications in gnome?
[15:20] <hekinami> Maco_MOTU: that means ONLY install the right grub into your MBR
[15:21] <FredFlinstone> gnucash? i don't know what i need or what is available , you tell me, its a very small biz , needs receivables mgmt only
[15:21] <at05gt> how do i change directories in the terminal?
[15:21] <Kre10s> just a simple getting started would be fine. I can read the APIs once I get started
[15:21] <Kre10s> at05gt: cd path
[15:21] <icy`> !proc
[15:21] <geekphreak> at05gt: cd?
[15:21] <abhijit> how to come out of the dos box? it captures my mouse and dotn want to release it!
[15:21] <Kre10s> abhijit: exit maybe
[15:21] <abhijit> Kre10s, no
[15:22] <geekphreak> at05gt: i suggest reading thorugh linuxcommands.org i think site name for command listing  and howto use them :)
[15:22] <geekphreak> abhi try ctrl+d
[15:22] <abhijit> Kre10s, that shutdowns the dos box. i want to come out of dos box do other things and then go again to dos box
[15:22] <cousteau> hi
[15:23] <BluesKaj> FredFlinstone, check out EekBoek , it's in synaptic , but ubottu doesn't list it
[15:23] <abhijit> geekbuntu, not working!
[15:24] <geekphreak> ok try exit or quit then , should be one of them
[15:24] <geekbuntu> abhijit, ?
[15:24] <FredFlinstone> BluesKaj, thanks
[15:24] <geekbuntu> abhijit, you had the wrong geek
[15:24] <abhijit> geekbuntu, how to come out of the dos box? it captures my mouse and dotn want to release it!
[15:24] <wessel> maedox, can I reinstall ubuntu without losing all my installed programs?
[15:24] <abhijit> geekbuntu, ohhh sorry
[15:24] <geekphreak> geekbuntu: wrong nick,think he meant me
[15:24] <geekbuntu> abhijit, np
[15:24] <abhijit> geekphreak, yah
[15:24] <abhijit> :)
[15:24] <wessel> maybe when I reinstall I will no longer have issues with permissions or that it does not remember settings
[15:24] <maedox> wessel, no, but you can keep all personal settings in your home folder.
[15:25] <FredFlinstone> BluesKaj, dutch only? no good for me
[15:25] <abhijit> when compiling c program in tc under dos box it gives error cant creat file.obj. please help!
[15:25] <serapophis> wessel: and you can use debfoster to record a list of installed packages which you can easily reinstall
[15:25] <maedox> wessel, you should be able to compile a list of manually installed packages and the repos installed, but I can't give you the commands from memory. :)
[15:25] <geekphreak> abhijit: just use bash man :)
[15:26] <maedox> wessel, serapophis is probably on to something :D
[15:26] <BluesKaj> FredFlinstone, dunno about canuck specific accounting tho ...according to the experts on CBC last night we're pretty lax about accounting rules here compared to other countries :)
[15:26] <ofan> hi all,im using ibus and sometimes the input bar would disappear before i choose a character,is that a bug of ibus?
[15:26] <abhijit> geekphreak, its turbo c windows aps
[15:26] <geekphreak> you can use gcc to compile
[15:26] <geekphreak> gcc -i file file.c
[15:26] <geekphreak> gcc -o file file.c i mean :d
[15:27] <abhijit> geekphreak, need to use graphics.h which is turbo c only
[15:27] <sedulous> turbo c! flashbacks
[15:27]  * sedulous wrote his first hello world in Turbo C, on an Atari ST
[15:28] <geekphreak> aah ok
[15:28] <cousteau> so I'm the only one here who learned programming on QBasic?
[15:29] <robert83a2> hello, I have a problem ubuntu 10.04, I've set /etc/default/grub.conf the resoltuion to 1024x768, and my grub menu (selection screen) is 1024x768, but after that, during the grub boot process...it reverts back to 640x480, why?
[15:29] <robert83a2> I did a update-grub
[15:29] <iTroll> hey guys, i recently installed a 10.04 system, i have been trying to set up a samba server with ebox/zentyal and it has gone pear shaped.  Is there anyway of reverting to the out-of-the-box config so i can start again?
[15:29] <cousteau> abhijit: what does graphics.h provide?
[15:30] <abhijit> cousteau, graphcis functions
[15:30] <wessel> debfoster returns a mega big list!
[15:30] <cousteau> abhijit: such as plotting on the TTY or something?
[15:30] <abhijit> rectangle circle line etc
[15:30] <abhijit> cousteau, yes
[15:30] <wessel> there is no way I installed all these, maybe these are also all the packages that were "required"
[15:31] <wessel> this PC has java, python, and some stuff for firefox so it runs youtube, not much else
[15:31] <cousteau> abhijit: I see... maybe you want to use some graphics API, such as X-window, or something like Cairo, SDL...
[15:32] <ChogyDan> wessel: what is debfoster?
[15:32] <cousteau> I don't know if Ubuntu, or Linux in general, supports a graphics-enabled console
[15:32] <Galeo> Hi everyone. I just installed Ubuntu on my tower pc and I have a new wireless n150 USB adapter, the DWA-125 from D-Link. I just can't get it to be installed. I do not have a ethernet cable to link it directly to the internet.
[15:32] <ChogyDan> wessel: is in an alternate to apt?
[15:32] <abhijit> cousteau, i want to. but here comes wingdows monopoly. our collge only usage windows
[15:32] <wessel> no
[15:32] <serapophis> wessel:  then just copy the keepers file
[15:32] <abhijit> sorry i mean wingdows
[15:33] <Purti> Hi, I am trying to install gstreamer0.10* packages on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and getting the following error
[15:33] <Purti> The following information may help to resolve the situation:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:   gstreamer0.10-fluendo-plugins-mp3-partner: Conflicts: gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3   gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad: Conflicts: gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mpegdemux                              Conflicts: gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mpegmux E: Broken packages
[15:34] <cousteau> abhijit: SDL is also on Windows
[15:34] <serapophis> ChogyDan: no quote from man "debfoster - weed unnecessary Debian packages"
[15:34] <Purti> i checked my source list
[15:34] <ChogyDan> Purti: I can help if you pastebin the whole error message
[15:34] <cousteau> so you could write cross-platform apps with relative ease
[15:34] <cousteau> or, you can use mingw32 to cross-compile windows executables, and test them with wine
[15:34] <abhijit> cousteau, but who will tell that to our college mgmt?
[15:35] <abhijit> !paste > Purti
[15:36] <cousteau> abhijit: just make an SDL app, as simple as you can, and when they see that they can make _real_ graphic apps, they'll stop using MS-DOS
[15:36] <cousteau> or, being more realistic, try to use graphics.h through mingw32
[15:36] <abhijit> cousteau, hmm
[15:36] <kdc1956> I have a Atheros communications Ins AR9285 wireless network adapter (PCI) and I can not get online with it any ideas on how to make this work
[15:37] <cousteau> abhijit: just found "libgraph"
[15:37] <ChogyDan> serapophis: yeah, I was just unsure of how it tracked the packages, but I ran it, it looks like it figures it out at runtime
[15:37] <robert83a2> damn I did it, I don't know if this is a limitation of update-grub...but I had to manualy edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf and add set gfxpayload=keep , now I have the grub boot messages in same resoltion
[15:37] <robert83a2> am I doing something wrong here that I need this...or is this normal?
[15:37] <cousteau> abhijit: it seems to be a wrapper around SDL that provides the same api as graphics.h
[15:38] <Purti> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/2dVwmfm7
[15:38] <abhijit> cousteau, ok
[15:38] <at05gt> how do i get to the .wine folder in the file browser?
[15:38] <jrib> at05gt: ctrl-h will show hidden files
[15:39] <serapophis> ChogyDan: yes ist uses the user as algorithm to determine the packages to keep ;-)
[15:39] <abhijit> at05gt, ctrl h
[15:39] <cousteau> or Ctrl+L, and then type .wine
[15:39] <at05gt> h worked thank yo
[15:39] <at05gt> you*
[15:39] <skar> hi, i'm trying to build a deb pkg from source only for i686, but it's building for i386 too, how do i make sure only i686 gets built?
[15:40] <Lloydie-t> I am having absolute murders with vsftpd. 530 Login incorrect. when I enter paasword. Any Ideas? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Ehkn2JJq
[15:40] <at05gt> ugh cant get this game to run at all
[15:40] <abhijit>  apt-get search Cedega
[15:40] <abhijit> E: Invalid operation search
[15:40] <abhijit> help
[15:41] <IdleOne> abhijit: apt-cache search
[15:41] <icy`> hi, getting a "Warning: unable to find a suitable fs in /proc/mounts, is it mounted? Use --subdomainsfs to override."  on startup, and this affects my ability to mount a vboxsf share
[15:41] <at05gt> has anybody been able to get Torchlight running with wine?
[15:41] <abhijit> IdleOne, ohhh! my bad! :d
[15:41] <abhijit> :D
[15:41] <IdleOne> !wine | at05gt
[15:41] <dagon666> is it possible to create a directory to which a particular user will have write access but he won't be able to delete anything ?
[15:42] <at05gt> i know what wine is lol im askin if anybodies gotten that specific game to run
[15:42] <icy`> i could be more specific if you have any ideas... this is testing a custom compiled 2.6.32-10 kernel on 9.10 karmic (upgraded from 2.6.31-14-generic)
[15:42] <jrib> dagon666: is the sticky bit sufficient?
[15:42] <IdleOne> at05gt: continue reading the factoid. says to check the appdb or to ask in #winehq
[15:42] <at05gt> just saw that ty
[15:42] <IdleOne> welcome :)
[15:43] <willinja> i got a question regarding xchat why does my xchat keeps on ask to verify that i'm not a bot ?
[15:43] <cousteau> abhijit: or maybe you can use liballegro4.2-dev, which provides an <allegro/graphics.h>, don't know if it's compatible
[15:43] <ZykoticK9_> dagon666, a long time ago, for an FTP server, I created an upload directory that was read/write but didn't have Execute - so people could upload to the folder, but not actually go inside and see anything (technically if the did know the file name inside the folder they could be deleted).  "Might" help?  Good luck.
[15:43] <abhijit> cousteau, thanks
[15:44] <jrib> willinja: if you register and have xchat identify you when you join this server, you will no longer have to do that.  You have to do it at the moment because this channel is temporarily only open to registered users (+r)
[15:44] <swampt> how do you search for a package in terminal?
[15:44] <jrib> !apt > swampt
[15:44] <ZykoticK9_> swampt, "apt-cache search foo"
[15:44] <acbatman54> All: Is anyone else experiencing issues with updates and installs of Adobe Acrobat on Ubuntu 10.4?
[15:44] <IdleOne> swampt: apt-cache search package
[15:44] <Tornado-Mint> hey
[15:45] <ChogyDan> Purti: sorry mate, I missed your message.  What are you trying to install?
[15:46] <Purti> ChogyDan: i am trying to install gstreamer related packages gstreamer0.10
[15:46] <swampt> nagios, needs to be compiled to run on ubuntu?
[15:46] <willinja> jrib, i've register tho but i havent get the confirmation mail yet some how ?
[15:46] <jrib> willinja: #freenode can help you with registering
[15:47] <ChogyDan> Purti: yeah, but it is conflicting with gstreamer packages from another source it looks like.  Are these ppa packages, or devel packages, or something?
[15:47] <willinja> jrib, what's the cmd for registering?
[15:47] <jrib> !register > willinja
[15:48] <abhijit> unable to create output file in dos box! help
[15:48] <Purti> gstreamer is not ppa package
[15:49] <abhijit> :(
[15:49] <jrib> ZykoticK9_: you can ls without execute permissions :)
[15:49] <abhijit> wow just found channel for #dosbox :D
[15:50] <xbonesx> v: rly?
[15:50] <ChogyDan> Purti: nm, I see what is going on.  It is selecting all the gstreamer packages, but they are not all compatible.  Im not sure what the solution is
[15:50] <xbonesx> abhijit*: rly
[15:50] <abhijit> xbonesx, yah
[15:50] <xbonesx> network and channel name?
[15:50] <ZykoticK9_> jrib, without execute on a directory you shouldn't be able to "cd" into it
[15:51] <xbonesx> i just go into using dosbox for win7 to play some old school games
[15:51] <jrib> ZykoticK9_: right, but I can ls and delete stuff I see listed
[15:51] <Purti> ChogyDan : i know ...i can see many people have reported the same issue in many forums...but no solutions are posted
[15:51] <xbonesx> cant you run old dos games from terminal in ubuntu???
[15:51] <ChogyDan> Purti: why do you want those packages?
[15:51] <xNwZ_jr> xbonesx: u can run old dos games in dosbox
[15:51] <Purti> ChogyDan : these are development packages for developing a media player
[15:51] <jrib> ZykoticK9_: although seems I can't actually rm.  Strange.
[15:51] <ZykoticK9_> jrib, right but without being able to enter the directory, how can you know what is there?  I'm not "really" disagreeing with you, this only prevents people from "entering" the directory the still have read/write on the contents
[15:52] <jrib> ZykoticK9_: I can know what's there by using "ls"
[15:52] <xbonesx> xNwZ_jr: ubuntu as well?
[15:52] <abhijit> xbonesx, type /j #dosbox
[15:52] <xbonesx> k
[15:53] <ZykoticK9_> jrib, with me "test" directory i just setup - if i "ls test/" i get permission denied (as expected) how are you running ls?
[15:53] <ZykoticK9_> s/me/my
[15:53] <pipe_> hi
[15:54] <acbatman54> Is anyone else experiencing issues with updates and installs of Adobe Acrobat on Ubuntu 10.4?
[15:54] <jrib> ZykoticK9_: do you have read permissions on the directory? http://paste.ubuntu.com/495333/
[15:55] <ChogyDan> Purti: I think they are just codecs, I think the solution is just to install what you need, rather than all of them.  I dunno..
[15:55] <ZykoticK9_> jrib, your pastebin example is exactly what i mean!  ls: cannot access noxondir/foo: Permission denied - you can still read/write to the directory, but you can't "enter" or "ls" it.
[15:55] <jrib> ZykoticK9_: maybe you let people have execute but not read?
[15:55] <jrib> ZykoticK9_: look at the ls output :)
[15:56] <jrib> ZykoticK9_: it lists "foo"
[15:56] <Katsumi32> acbatman54, no issues
[15:56] <wad> I've got a little PC that runs Ubuntu, and I'd like to be able to skype with it. In the past I've had massive trouble trying to install a USB web camera on a Debian box. Any recommendations on compatile cameras? Should I even try?
[15:57] <ZykoticK9_> jrib, you don't get any ls output, you get permission denied, yet you could touch the file just fine.
[15:57] <acbatman54> Katsumi32: it fails to update with Update Manager on 3 systems and it won't install again after removal. It hangs at downloading headers.
[15:57] <Purti> ChogyDan: may be your are right...i will try to find out the relevant packages....Thanks for your help!
[15:57] <jrib> ZykoticK9_: look at the line immediately following permission denied
[15:57] <jrib> ZykoticK9_: line 7, that's a list of the files in the directory
[15:58] <Lloydie-t> any tips on vsftpd. having hell trying to log onto it. 530 permission errors on every.
[15:59] <acbatman54> Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/partner/a/acroread/acroread_9.3.4-1lucid1_i386.deb
[15:59] <Katsumi32> acbatman54, did you try to get it from adobe web? or ppa
[15:59] <ZykoticK9_> jrib, ok fair enough - it shows you each filename and give permission denied (thus showing the filename).  You are correct, not exactly clear why that is happening...
[15:59] <benjamintheyon> I need a simple way to search for files on my machine. This is probably trivial but I could use a hand haha
[15:59] <acbatman54> Katsumi32: not yet because I wanted Ubuntu to maintain updates.
[15:59] <abhijit> benjamintheyon, google desktop
[15:59] <jrib> ZykoticK9_: I think the behavior you described is achieved by giving 'x' but not 'r'.  But using sticky bit is probably the best way to handle shared directories
[16:00] <ZykoticK9_> benjamintheyon, from a terminal you can use something like "find / -name foo 2>/dev/null" where foo is the filename you are searching for.
[16:00] <Katsumi32> acbatman54, check up ppa if there is some ppa for adobe add it to your synaptic
[16:00] <benjamintheyon> abhijit: For Ubuntu? Sounds promising
[16:00] <jrib> ZykoticK9_: what's confusing me is that I always thought 'w' was enough to delete a file but apparently I need 'x' too
[16:00] <abhijit> benjamintheyon, yah
[16:01] <abhijit> benjamintheyon, i am using it
[16:01] <benjamintheyon> ZykoticK9_: What is the second part, after foo?
[16:01] <ZykoticK9_> jrib, ahhh - yes that's what i meant!
[16:01] <quiescens> jrib: without x you can't do anything to anything inside a directory
[16:01] <acbatman54> Katsumi32: I didn't see one through Google'ing but I'll look again.
[16:01] <ZykoticK9_> benjamintheyon, find will give a lot of errors, that just sends the error ouput to a "black hole"
[16:01] <benjamintheyon> ZykoticK9_: Hmm. Alright, thanks.
[16:01] <Katsumi32> acbatman54, check up this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[16:01] <jrib> quiescens: do you know where that's actually documented by the way?
[16:02] <ZykoticK9_> quiescens, actually jrib just proved to me that you can infact to something (although in strange output) without X
[16:03] <ZykoticK9_> s/to/do
[16:03] <abhijit> how to run autorun.exe from cd in wine?
[16:03] <nikpfa2> hello, can someone tell me in which folder the statusbar icons from the ubuntu 10.04 installation are? i want to change the ossxmix and the amarok i con to the gnome ones, because they fit better to the look :)
[16:03] <ZykoticK9_> abhijit, use "wine /path/to/cd/autorun.exe" will get around nautilus execution bit "issue"
[16:04] <abhijit> ZykoticK9_, yah it works. thanks!
[16:05] <quiescens> zykotick9_: what did it do?
[16:05] <jrib> ZykoticK9_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/495337/ is funny
[16:05] <ZykoticK9_> quiescens, using ls it show a permission denied beside each file inside the directory, thus showing the contents of the directory
[16:05] <ylmfos_> 有没中国人这里？
[16:06] <quiescens> zykotick9_: but you can't interact with the contents of the directory
[16:06] <IdleOne> !cn | ylmfos_
[16:06] <ylmfos_> 我也是
[16:06] <CoSmO> Hello Everyone, I hope I am in teh correct place to ask this.  I need some help....  I have a computer using some Intel processors (P8400 and T9400's) and the CPU scaling is wrong.  I am not sure how I can change this to fix it.  Ubuntu is overclicking the CPU quite high..
[16:06] <quiescens> zykotick9_: I mean, you can get a list of what's in the directory but you can't for example stat() the files inside, which is why ls-l has strange output
[16:07] <acbatman54>  Katsumi32: I'm trying out an unsupported PPA. Thanks for the help.
[16:07] <ZykoticK9_> quiescens, agreed :)
[16:07] <searchfgold> hi. I have a printer problem. Whenever I print something from ubuntu, like a 2.5 mb .pdf file, it goes across to the windows computer the printer is connected to and shows up as a 15 MB file and doesnt print because the memory of the printer is only 4mb. Any way to prevent this?
[16:07] <j_ayen_green> Having two problems on 10.4.  I haven't updated one server in about 2 months. The update screen showed 240 updates. I had it start, and almost right away it complained about not being able to resolve security.ubuntu.org or some such.  The other problem is that my IP4 on that box shows as 0.0.0.0. It's an ethernet connection. There doesn't seem to be an ill effect, but I don't know how to...
[16:07] <azi`> hello. i have two monitors on my PC and I would like to set up the second one as my primary (I'd like to show there the app luncher & taskbar) but this option is not to be found under monitor settings.. anyone happens to know how could I do that?
[16:07] <j_ayen_green> ...connect to it from my other Ubuntu box.
[16:08] <Katsumi32> acbatman54, thanks ? thats not enough i want to go to restaurant tonight
[16:08] <quiescens> zykotick9_: i guess in a manner of speaking the difference is the read bit lets you read the directory itself, and the execute bit lets you.. "use" the (files/etc) that are inside the directory
[16:08] <searchfgold> azi: switch around the way the two monitors are plugged in...
[16:08] <djdb4night> dfc
[16:08] <azi`> searchfgold: the first monitor is my laptop
[16:08] <acbatman54>  Katsumi32: Well... meet me at Olive Garden and I'll buy! :)
[16:09] <azi`> searchfgold: + I consider it a bug if it is not possible to do it within the software
[16:09] <searchfgold> azi`: what have you tried?
[16:09] <Katsumi32> acbatman54, what if we meet outside east croydon station ?
[16:09] <azi`> searchfgold: system -> preferences -> monitors. no option there
[16:09] <mada> hi
[16:09] <azi`> searchfgold: then someone here told me there should be a laptop function key for that.. but that key doesn't do the desired thing
[16:10] <Tyzao> im trying to install ubuntu
[16:10] <benjamintheyon> I'm having trouble understanding where software might be installed (VirtualBox OSE, specifically). Can anyone point me to a few directories to check?
[16:10] <Tyzao> but it keeps freezing
[16:10] <searchfgold> azi`: okay. 1 sec...
[16:10] <mada> heey guyzz
[16:10] <Tyzao> i have 10.04 on a cd
[16:10] <Tyzao> and am booting from cd disk
[16:10] <mada> hey god damn it :@
[16:10] <azi`> searchfgold: so I went into windows and i've noticed that under propreties you can set programatically which monitor is the primary
[16:10] <IdleOne> !language | mada
[16:10] <mada> okai i said hi
[16:11] <searchfgold> azi`:You have to download proprietary drivers for both monitors.
[16:11] <Tyzao> the installation menu appears but when I try any of the options its just stalls
[16:11] <IdleOne> mada: did you really expect 1278 people to respond?
[16:11] <azi`> searchfgold: monitors? drivers for monitors?
[16:11] <mada> listen guyz
[16:11] <iTroll> hey guys, usb keyboard with lucid installer? Should it work?
[16:11] <mada> i wanna delete wine programe
[16:11] <mada> i don't know how
[16:11] <mada> i'm still new in this os
[16:11] <rrittenhouse_> mada: sudo apt-get remove wine   ?
[16:11] <searchfgold> azi`: check into the software center and see if there is another program that gives you the option to set the primary monitor.
[16:11] <Tyzao> any suggestions ?
[16:11] <IdleOne> mada: sudo apt-get purge -remove wine
[16:12] <mada> okai thnk u
[16:12] <mada> :)
[16:12] <rrittenhouse_> mada: use IdleOne im sure it's a better suggestion than mine ;)
[16:12] <jinruiruanjian> 没有中文吗
[16:12] <rrittenhouse_> IdleOne, I've never used that.. whats different?
[16:12] <IdleOne> rrittenhouse_: probably not :)
[16:12] <mada> hey listen guyz
[16:12] <mada> i wanna open msn
[16:12] <mada> i don't know how
[16:12] <mada> plzzz help
[16:12] <Tyzao> im having difficulty to install ubuntu
[16:12] <IdleOne> rrittenhouse_: purge also removes the config files as I understand it.
[16:13] <Tyzao> and I need a bit of guidance
[16:13] <rrittenhouse_> IdleOne, very nice. I've learned two neat things today ;)
[16:13] <craigbass1976> Anyone having trouble with echofon (the twitter client) in firefox since upgrading to lucid?
[16:13] <Tyzao> the cd brings up the main menu
[16:13] <Tyzao> but when i try ubuntu without installing
[16:13] <searchfgold> azi`: i found it!
[16:13] <Tyzao> or install ubuntu
[16:13] <Tyzao> it just freezes
[16:14] <IdleOne> !alternate | Tyzao
[16:14] <Tyzao> the cursor just appears in the top left corner and blinks
[16:14] <searchfgold> azi`sudo apt-get install grandr
[16:14] <quiescens> technically purge will only remove.. system level config files
[16:14] <acbatman54> Katsumi32: sorry... too far to walk. How about you meet me at TX Capital Bldg?
[16:14] <searchfgold> azi`: sudo apt-get install grandr
[16:15] <ZykoticK9_> Tyzao, you might want to have a look at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html in particular trying the nomodeset option from installer, then the grub alteration after install
[16:15] <IdleOne> !ot | acbatman54 Katsumi32
[16:15] <acbatman54> Katsumi32: Good music and food!
[16:15] <acbatman54> sorry
[16:15] <acbatman54> lol
[16:15] <searchfgold> azi`: you can easily configure multiple monitors using that software
[16:15] <Katsumi32> IdleOne, YEAH sorry :)
[16:16] <mada> hey guyz i just installed emesene and it takes tooo much time to sign in
[16:16] <mada> i just installed emesene and it takes too much time to sign in
[16:16] <mada> wt can i do ?
[16:17] <rrittenhouse_> mada: how long?
[16:17] <mada> i don't know
[16:17] <mada> and it says
[16:17] <mada> host
[16:17] <mada> i'm still new in this os
[16:17] <mada> and i like it but it's to hard :(
[16:17] <vYc0d> :)
[16:17] <CoSmO> Anyone able to aid with my CPU problems?  I think it has to do with scaling and Intel's speedstep..  I really need some help on this...
[16:17] <ZykoticK9_> !enter | mada
[16:18] <JoeMaverickSett> mada: i think you should also try asking in #emesene
[16:19] <mada> okai thank u joe
[16:19] <nul> I have a shell script question if possible (mayeb using cat, awk, sed, etc...) if i want to nab lets say line 3 of file, until 2nd to last line, is that possible?
[16:19] <mada> okai no body knows how to use emesene :(
[16:20] <nul> CoSmO: what's the issue?
[16:20] <mada> okai thank for ur time
[16:20] <jrib> nul: sure, either use sed or head/tail together
[16:20] <CoSmO> Nul:  It's a wierd issue.  I have a P8400 CPU, rated at 2.26Ghz.  For some reason the scalling is setting it at 8Ghz.  I am not sure how to get this corrected
[16:20] <nul> it's not going to 8ghz, CoSmO
[16:21] <nul> It might slow it down
[16:21] <nul> but not 8ghz.
[16:21] <nul> haha
[16:21] <nul> it would go down to 1.8 maybe ;)
[16:21] <quiescens> nul: short version is that its slightly harder than it first seems
[16:21] <CoSmO> nul:  All indications are pointing to it going that high.  I have used quite a few programs and all of them, even CPUINFO in teh /proc shows 8Ghz..
[16:21] <DS8A1P> Hi friends! Ubuntu 10.04 does not recognize my CD/DVD drive. It came with my Asus laptop X51RL...does anybody may help me, here? Thank you!
[16:22] <nul> CoSmO: well congratulations you have the fastest laptop processor ever built.. or its being dumb ;)
[16:22] <DS8A1P> Hi friends! Ubuntu 10.04 does not recognize my CD/DVD drive. It came with my Asus laptop X51RL...does anybody may help me, here? Thank you!
[16:23] <hebert>  /nick hebertsilva
[16:23] <Delphious> is ubuntu server only x86/86-64 now or is power still supported?
[16:23] <tjc> hi guys
[16:23] <CoSmO> nul:  it's not a laptop.  It's a unit we build as a company, this problem is occuring with the P8400 and T9400 CPU's only.  I tried a T3100 and it works fine, no scaling as no speedstep support.  BIOS has no Speedstep options in there, so nothing to enable or disable.  I have taken our the C1E step as well, no change
[16:23] <nul> CoSmO: it's not 8ghz dude
[16:23] <nul> is it quad core?
[16:23] <tjc> could anyone help me with itunes installation ubuntu 10.04?
[16:23] <jrib> !ppc | Delphious
[16:23] <CoSmO> nul:  Core 2 Duo's
[16:23] <ipv6hermit> hey guys, what's up with the openldap installation on ubuntu.  where is the slapd.conf file?
[16:23] <nul> well, its not 8ghz.. thas not scaling
[16:24] <nul> its 2.26 x 2, which isnt really even 4ghz
[16:24] <nul> does it have HT?
[16:24] <nul> that would explain teh 8ghz
[16:24] <nul> the*
[16:24] <Delphious> i was going to use my old g4 as a server, just wondering
[16:24] <nul> "4 cores x 2.26 obviously means 8ghz"
[16:24] <nul> hehe
[16:24] <mada> hey guyz i wana download flash player
[16:24] <DS8A1P> Hi friends! Ubuntu 10.04 does not recognize my CD/DVD drive. It came with my Asus laptop X51RL...does anybody may help me, here? Thank you!
[16:24] <mada> how can i do that ?
[16:24] <jrib> !flash | mada
[16:25] <quiescens> wouldn't it technically be 9
[16:25] <ipv6hermit> anyone with experience with openldap on ubuntu 9.10?
[16:25] <tjc> hiiiii
[16:25] <tjc> itunes on ubuntu 10.04
[16:25] <Delphious> wine or crossover tjc
[16:25] <tjc> i cant install it
[16:25] <tjc> wine crashes
[16:26] <tjc> where can i find crossover
[16:26] <CoSmO> nul:  This is my reading from the scaling options in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available-freq:  8410000 8000000 6400000 4800000 3200000 1600000  and when in performance mode it's at 8410Mhz    no HT on these CPU's
[16:26] <Delphious> you have to buy it, then it downloads as an sh
[16:27] <tjc> any other solution_
[16:27] <tjc> ?
[16:27] <Delphious> use banshee or rhythmbox?
[16:27] <icy`> hi, i was wondering, why does grub do everything behind the scenes?  After making a new kernel, grub never prompted me to choose which one to use on startup
[16:27] <tjc> i cant syncronize my iphone with rythmbox
[16:28] <Galeo> I'm trying to install a wireless n150 usb adapter, DWA-125 from ralink. I found a lot of ways to do it, but I always need to download the following driver : RT3070USB, which I can't.
[16:28] <icy`> i look in /boot/grub and i see no menu.lst  , etc
[16:28] <gage> Does anyone know why Ubuntu and Xubuntu crashes/freezes when I triy to grab and move a window ???
[16:28] <nul> CoSmO: anyway dude I don't really care, it's not running at 8ghz even if ti says so
[16:28] <ninjai> can anyone tell me why it is that when I send an HTML file with sendmail (using mutt) it appears as HTML code instead of an HTML document?
[16:29] <mada> okai now i want emesene how can i do that ?
[16:29] <searchfgold> ninjai:you have to mark it as executable. sudo chmod +x [file]
[16:29] <mada> what can i do
[16:30] <CoSmO> nul:  The umtimate problem is that the system is constantly locking up when it goes into the performance mode.  If it runs without it, at the 1600Mhz there is no problem.  Only when it jumps up higher.  I am not so much concerned with what it says it's running at, I have operational issues.  Is there any way to disable speedstep within the ubuntu OS?
[16:30] <icy`> so to "choose" kernel on startup, do i simply change the symlink for "linux" or..?
[16:30] <DS8A1P> Hi friends! Ubuntu 10.04 does not recognize my CD/DVD drive. It came with my Asus laptop X51RL...does anybody may help me, here? Thank you!
[16:30] <ChogyDan> icy`: I think you can hold shift, and select one at startup.  You can also make a custom script
[16:31] <searchfgold> DS8A1P:pop a cd in and see what it does
[16:31] <mada> heeeey guyzzz plzz help i want to install emesene
[16:31] <searchfgold> DS8A1P:not a blank one.
[16:31] <searchfgold> mada:sudo apt-get install emesene
[16:31] <slow-motion> hi
[16:31] <searchfgold> mada:...
[16:32] <mada> searchfgold: thank u
[16:32] <gage> Does anyone know why Ubuntu and Xubuntu crashes/freezes when I triy to grab and move a window ???
[16:32] <wolf> !list
[16:32] <searchfgold> mada:sure man
[16:32] <Galeo> Anytime I try to wonload something, I get this : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/buNNSZM7
[16:32] <tjc> guys if anyone knows how to install itunes on ubuntu 10.04 pls tell me
[16:33] <searchfgold> Galeo:that is normal. you're not allowed to upload things, i think...
[16:33] <FredFlinstone> that reminds me of a question i want to ask, what is the best replacement (or clone) for windows live messenger (as in looks like it works like it )?
[16:33] <icy`> ChogyDan, k i'll try holding shift next time around
[16:33] <Delphious> amsn fred
[16:33] <FredFlinstone> ok
[16:33] <Galeo> searchfgold: I actually try to download the thing.
[16:34] <ChogyDan> !grub2 | icy`
[16:34] <searchfgold> Galeo:exactly what are you trying to do: download something from irc, or download something legit?
[16:34] <n37wk3r> How can ubuntu automatically setup a printer without having the user to go in localhost:631 and configure manually the printer?
[16:35] <quiescens> searchfgold: they are trying to download something to make their wireless usb adapter work
[16:35] <Galeo> searchgold: I'm trying to download the RT3070 from this page : http://www.ralinktech.com/product.php?s=33
[16:35] <mada> searchfgold: it takes to much time to sign in
[16:35] <ninjai> searchfgold: How can I do that if my output is done by a perl script via PHP :S
[16:36] <erUSUL> n37wk3r: System>Admin>Printers does not work for you ?
[16:36] <erUSUL> n37wk3r: in  case the system sdoes not recognize it automatically ( it does for many of them )
[16:36] <searchfgold> ninjai:I have no idea, cant help you sorry
[16:37] <phh45> How to use fil-plugins to reduce bass frequences? Can you recommend some other global sound equalizator?
[16:37] <searchfgold> mada: you mean, after you type your pass into the terminal it takes forever?
[16:37] <ninjai> searchfgoldL thanks, I think I'll just write the data to a text file and attach it lol
[16:37] <JoeMaverickSett> n37wk3r: for further info, take a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers
[16:37] <erUSUL> phh45: there is a puseaudio equalizer ...
[16:37] <searchfgold> ninjai:k
[16:38] <erUSUL> phh45: http://digitizor.com/2010/02/08/how-to-install-system-wide-pulseaudio-equalizer-in-ubuntu-9-10-and-10-04/
[16:38] <mada> searchfgold:yeah
[16:39] <n37wk3r> erUSUL: no tkz so far i didn't have any problem with my printer, i was just wondering how can ubuntu do automatic printer recognition
[16:39] <searchfgold> mada:try this: #    gksu apt-get install emesene
[16:39] <icy`> ChogyDan, thx, happily editing some files atm =P
[16:39] <n37wk3r> i mean which program was responsable for that
[16:40] <ChogyDan> icy`: yw  :)
[16:42] <n37wk3r> ok tkz
[16:42] <xbonesx> i need help with a dual boot, i need to know what files where effect from the boot loader being ran in the hdd0 partition which is my win7 partition
[16:43] <xbonesx> i find that if i delete the ubuntu partition then the grub gives error 22 on boot
[16:43] <xbonesx> causes the recovery tool for windows 7 to report back that there is now operating system installed
[16:44] <ChogyDan> xbonesx: do you want to remove ubuntu?
[16:45] <xbonesx> no not nec. but i did it once and i had to reinstall ubuntu to get the grub loader to work correctly again so i could access win7\
[16:45] <mada> searchfgold it still takes to much time
[16:45] <JoeMaverickSett> xbonesx: if you still want ubuntu then take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=980447 might help.
[16:46] <searchfgold> mada:do you know whether or not you are using a root account?
[16:46] <ChogyDan> xbonesx: yeah, grub requires ubuntu to be installed to function.  If you remove ubuntu, you have to switch over to the windows bootloader
[16:46] <experiMENTAL> hi. ubuntu 10.04.1 doesn't detect monitor. i am using 2 identical monitors on 2 machines - 1 is detected, 1 not. detection from 'monitor preferences' doesn't work. how to fix it?
[16:46] <willinja>  willinja sets mode +i this mean that my account is registered rite ?
[16:47] <mada> searchfgold:no
[16:47] <xbonesx> how would i switch back to windows boot loader considering windows 7 doesnt even think an os is present oncei  delete linux partition
[16:48] <nul> if I want to get lines 3 to 123 of a file, using tail, head, or any other thing, how do I do that?
[16:48] <searchfgold> mada: go into applications > system > Synaptic Package Manager
[16:48] <xbonesx> JoeMaverickSett: two partitions, first is win7 and second is linux
[16:48] <jrib> nul: I said to use sed :)  sed -n START,ENDp
[16:49] <xbonesx> JoeMaverickSett: not two hdd's
[16:49] <Galeo> May a .tar.bz2 be opened under Ubuntu ?
[16:49] <RockerBoy402> Can someone take a look at a thread I've had opened for days and see if they have any input: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9834118  I have 2 different threads open on Ubuntu Forums, have had them open for days, but haven't gotten any replies
[16:49] <jrib> !here | RockerBoy402
[16:50] <ChogyDan> how do I tell apt to choose a certain repo over another, ie, I have both lucid and maverick source repos, and I want to choose lucid
[16:50] <jrib> !pinning | ChogyDan
[16:51] <experiMENTAL> hi. ubuntu 10.04.1 doesn't detect monitor. i am using 2 identical monitors on 2 machines - 1 is detected, 1 not. detection from 'monitor preferences' doesn't work. how to fix it?
[16:52] <rcfgx> if i have a simple shell script to open an openvpn connection, which startup script should i call it in? (requires sudo)
[16:52] <jrib> rcfgx: whichever you want?
[16:53] <mada> searchfgold: i opned it
[16:53] <searchfgold> did you type in your pass?
[16:53] <willinja> !pinning | willinja
[16:53] <searchfgold> mada:okay. type in what you want to install into the search box
[16:54] <coolroot> can anyone give a link of how to make good desktop on ubuntu 10.04? step by step tutorial?
[16:54] <searchfgold> mada:and it will show up
[16:54] <RockerBoy402> Well in this specific thread (figured I'd start with this one since my mobo thread is kind of complex) i'm trying to burn an iso to a dvd to play on a blueray player.  I never had a problem when I had windows and Nero, but I"m having a problem now.  It always says, "Invalid Disk".  I've tried 4 different kinds of burning software AND DVD+r/DVD-R
[16:54] <jrib> coolroot: the default is a good desktop :/  Can you be more specific as to what you want?
[16:55] <mada> searchfgold: it's marked
[16:55] <serapophis> rcfgx: hm i guess i would use upstart since it handles networking in ubuntu too. So you can make your upstart job depend on the networking job
[16:55] <mada> what's the meaning
[16:55] <searchfgold> mada:now click apply
[16:56] <ChogyDan> thanks jrib
[16:56] <mada> i did
[16:56] <c7p1> i have ubuntu 10.04.1 and if i don't move the mouse or type sth on keyboard in 5 mins the screen locks. How can i disable this ?
[16:56] <searchfgold> mada:now it will go through some stuff...
[16:56] <mada> it didn't
[16:56] <RockerBoy402> The iso is made up of two folders, Video_TS & Audio_TS, which in theory should burn perfectly to the DVD and play.  The DVD does burn, but it only plays on a PC/Ubuntu.  I've even flashed the firmware on two different blueray players in my house, upgrading their firmware, to no success.
[16:56] <yeastwars> a few years back, ATI had a reputation for having crappy linux drivers (when compared to nvidia anyhow). Is that still the case?
[16:56] <JoeMaverickSett> c7p1: System > Preferences > Screensaver
[16:57] <searchfgold> mada:you clicked on the check box next to the appropriate package, clicked mark for install, clicked apply, typed in you password, and it did nothing?
[16:57] <c7p1> JoeMaverickSett: thank you :)
[16:58] <janek_> cześć
[16:58] <JoeMaverickSett> c7p1: solved your issue? if so, i'm glad. and you are welcome. :)
[16:58] <rcfgx> thanks for the tip serapophis
[16:59] <c7p1> JoeMaverickSett: i haven't test it but it must be that setting (screensaver after 5 mins and lock screen) ;)
[16:59] <JoeMaverickSett> c7p1: aha, i bet it is. :)
[17:00] <RockerBoy402> :-\
[17:00] <debianix> hey, am a bit confused here, i can ssh locally to a network pc, but i can't remote to it
[17:01] <debianix> its on the dmz
[17:01] <debianix> anyone can help
[17:01] <juk> debianix:any router, firewalls?
[17:01] <debianix> yeah my router had allow allow all :/
[17:02] <debianix> when i do a scan on ip.dyndns.org i can't see the ssh port open
[17:02] <Algorithm_42> #join ubuntu-fr
[17:02] <debianix> on local network it is
[17:02] <juk> debianix:so probably you'd open up port in router
[17:03] <llutz> debianix: you need your routers portforwarding
[17:03] <Agent001> I haven't restarted my ubuntu in 5 months.
[17:04] <kkal> I've got 10.04 and am going to dualboot winxp soon. Since winxp will overwrite grub, I will have to create a usb rescue disk for ubuntu. Problem is that I only have a 512 MB drive.
[17:04] <ZykoticK9_> Agent001, there have been kernel security updates in that time, so you should have restarted.  Uptime, when you aren't up-to-date security wise, is meaningless.
[17:04] <kkal> Does anyone know a smaller image or will the ubuntu image fit?
[17:04] <haywardgb> kkal: why are you installing winx? eeew! :p
[17:04] <kkal> haywardgb: games
[17:04] <debianix> bah i feel very embarassed now
[17:04] <debianix> lol
[17:04] <haywardgb> kkal: you cant run them using Wine ?
[17:05] <ipv6hermit> hey guys, the ubuntu installation of openldap seems kind of non standard, where is the slapd.conf file?
[17:05] <debianix> it was deny all :/
[17:05] <kkal> haywardgb: yes with the mandatory pain in the ass
[17:05] <gage> #xubuntu
[17:05] <juk> debianix:it happens :)
[17:05] <haywardgb> kkal: yeah, i'm glad i'm not into games ;)
[17:05] <kkal> so anyone know a smaller image? will dsl do?
[17:05] <debianix> heh
[17:06] <kkal> anyone willing to donate a bigger flash drive? :D
[17:06] <kkal> cant say its a worthy cause :)
[17:06] <JoeMaverickSett> kkal: take a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot and scroll down to "Installing Windows after Ubuntu" might help.
[17:07] <kkal> JoeMaverickSett: thanks. I know about this method
[17:07] <kkal> problem is about making the live cd
[17:08] <kkal> or live usb drive actually. will 512 MB be enough? I suspect I'll need a smaller distro for repairing grub
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> kkal:  i dont think so.
[17:08] <serapophis> kkal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> kkal:  there are disrtos smaller then  512mb.  tinycore linux = 10mb.
[17:08] <juk> kkal:get debian
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> kkal:  i recall some ubuntu-system reovery disrto.  But i dont think it had X. it was i THink under 300mb.
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> kkal:  check disrtowatch perhaps.
[17:09] <kkal> serapophis: lol. 13 MB
[17:09] <kkal> I should probably use this instead :)
[17:10] <serapophis> kkal, sorry missed your message that you need a "recovery" disk
[17:10] <Mba7eth> hey guys .... i have a usb printer, how can i create a print server from it ?  will CUPS do the job ?
[17:10] <kkal> Dr_Willis: great idea. I'll look there
[17:11] <RockerBoy402> Anyone have any ideas?
[17:11] <jrib> !helpme | RockerBoy402
[17:11] <morticide> I just got a really weird bug, running 10.04, never seen this one before. My mouse cursor changed to a vertical dotted line, white dots, no more cursor. It also doesn't change for things like window-border-resize.
[17:11] <morticide> Has anybody had this happen to them?
[17:11] <Mba7eth> hey guys .... i have a usb printer, how can i create a print server from it ?  will CUPS do the job ?
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> Mba7eth:  yes.
[17:12] <ipv6hermit> hey guys, the ubuntu installation of openldap seems kind of non standard, where is the slapd.conf file?
[17:12] <Mba7eth> Dr_Willis, thanks :")
[17:12] <RockerBoy402> !repeat
[17:12] <jrib> ipv6hermit: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html any help?
[17:12] <ZykoticK9_> ipv6hermit, try running "locate slapd.conf" in a terminal
[17:13] <ipv6hermit> ZykoticK9_: no results
[17:13] <U-b-u-n-t-u> anyone using 10.10 beta yet??? just wondering how it is
[17:13] <jrib> U-b-u-n-t-u: #ubuntu+1
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> U-b-u-n-t-u:  it works.. it has issues..  see #ubuntu+1 for details.. :)
[17:14] <ZykoticK9_> ipv6hermit, then I have no idea - good luck
[17:14] <U-b-u-n-t-u> jrib, I am not asking a tech question about it but just how it is
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> ipv6hermit:  do a 'sudo updatedb' then try the locate command again
[17:14] <jrib> U-b-u-n-t-u: it's offtopic here
[17:14] <morticide> ipv6hermit: you can also dpkg -L [packagename], for whatever ldap package you're using, and grep it for .conf's
[17:14] <U-b-u-n-t-u> jrib, so ask how a ubuntu os is working out is off topic?
[17:14] <ipv6hermit> Dr_Willis: the file is non existent, it just use another name
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> ipv6hermit:  ahh...  never mind then. :)
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> U-b-u-n-t-u:  all beta chat in #ubuntu+1 - its that simple
[17:15] <vic20gmr> hey hopefully a quik question, if i use older ver of ubuntu will i get older version of fglrx?
[17:15] <jrib> U-b-u-n-t-u: this channel is for *support* of stable ubuntu releases
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> vic20gmr:  yes. i belive so
[17:15] <ipv6hermit> morticide: yesss why didn't I think of that
[17:15] <ipv6hermit> morticide: thanks
[17:16] <vic20gmr> ok, thx, and where can i go for this sort of question [for future reference?
[17:16] <neriukas> hi all ;)
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> vic20gmr:  the channel is  #ubuntu+1
[17:16] <oxymoron> Does anyone know this guy Matt Colyer (http://matt.colyer.name/) who is inventor of imobiledevice?
[17:16] <julius__> como me conecto a ubunutu en español
[17:16] <julius__> alguie nsabe
[17:17] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Dr_Willis, am I allowed to say hello when I enter or could that be considered off topic
[17:17] <erUSUL> !es | julius__
[17:17] <vic20gmr> ok
[17:17] <jimcooncat> vic20gmr: you can use the search function on this page: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[17:18] <Ichat> [q] when i use the 'usb' creator app in ubuntu 10.4    how can i  create a usb stick that  writes changes to a  fileserver rather than to teh usb stick ...  this disk....
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> Ichat:  what 'changes' ? you want the save file  to be mounted from over a network? Not sure thats possible. You proberly could set up a NFS /home however.
[17:19] <ikonia> Ichat: you won't want to work like that, as that would require a network server being available to the environment, before the boot, which isn't going to happen
[17:20] <jrib> ikonia, Ichat: how about just /home?
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> U-b-u-n-t-u:  so much for your patience..
[17:20] <ikonia> jrib: that's a different situation
[17:20] <neriukas> yra cia is lietuvos  kas?
[17:20] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Dr_Willis,  lol
[17:21] <erUSUL> !lt
[17:21] <Ichat> jrib - that might be oke too,  if i can some how  reduce the 'writing'  to an absolute minimum...
[17:21]  * erUSUL senses he made a mistake ...
[17:22] <jrib> Ichat: oh, I see your concern now.  Well I guess writing outside /home will mostly be log files and /tmp
[17:22] <ikonia> Ichat: what is your reason behind this, we maybe able to work out a better solution
[17:22] <robert83a2> hello, I'm trying to set my Ubuntu 10.04 resoltuion to 640x480 for the sake of testing, but no matter what I specify in grub GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 , once my console is up and running it goes to the highest resolution, and is making me crazy...what else do I need to change, I tried dpkg-reconfigure console-setup, but nothing resolution related came up....
[17:22] <ikonia> jrib: the issues will be around installed packages, things like that,
[17:22] <ikonia> (in my eyes)
[17:22] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Dr_Willis, I just wanted to know how it was and if it was OK I was going to upgrade to help with the development.. but I guess I will just do it without feed back because I love ubuntu and wanna help
[17:22] <ikonia> U-b-u-n-t-u: if you are unable to work out / read the bugs for the release, it is unlikley you will be able to help with the development
[17:23] <Ichat> ikonia:  -   a small formfactor pc that has a cf card to boot only
[17:23] <mehwork> what command line tool can tell me if i'm running 64bit or 32bit, just 'uname -a' right? it shows i686 which i assume means 32bit?
[17:23] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ikonia, I just meant feed back and bugs ikonia I didnt mean programming
[17:23] <ikonia> mehwork: correct
[17:23] <jrib> mehwork: yes
[17:23] <mehwork> what would it say if it was 64bit?
[17:23] <ikonia> U-b-u-n-t-u: well, if you want to feedback, it doesnt matter that stuats of the release, try it and feed back
[17:23] <seamt> hello
[17:24] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ikonia, I am going to thanks
[17:24] <jrib> U-b-u-n-t-u: we're not yelling at you, we're telling you that the right place to talk about maverick is #ubuntu+1.  There are tons of people there, it's a real channel
[17:24] <U-b-u-n-t-u> jrib, I know its fine sorry about that
[17:24] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ill just upgrade now
[17:24] <U-b-u-n-t-u> brb
[17:25] <Ichat> jrib -  -  i can understand that logs will ware the disk, so   maybe i could disable logs all toghether.
[17:25] <il> ciao
[17:25] <ikonia> Ichat: this may sound simple, but have you thought about buying a bigger card, you can get them as big as 16GB
[17:25] <il> !list
[17:26] <jrib> Ichat: is your concern just to avoid frequent writing or the card not having enough space?
[17:26] <xbonesx> when your searching a directory with terminal and you dont fell like spelling out the full directory can't you presss like tab and it will go through the possible fillname that exist???
[17:26] <jrib> xbonesx: yes
[17:27] <Ichat> jrib - writing is my concern yes,  the controller doesn't seem to  support wear-protection
[17:27] <xbonesx> jrib: what do you press to make it do it
[17:27] <jrib> xbonesx: tab
[17:27] <xbonesx> thats it
[17:27] <jrib> xbonesx: hit tab twice really quick if there is more than one possibility
[17:27] <experiMENTAL> hi, monitor detection problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1576526
[17:28] <AndyGraybeal> is there an easy way to make links using the graphical interface?  i know how to do with iwth 'ln -s' from the prompt.  i'm trying to think about how to explain how to do it with some lay people.
[17:28] <jrib> Ichat: ikonia make the valid point that there will be writing involved for installing packages.  I'd try to mitigate this by modifying the ubuntu image before copying it to the card.  Or, since installs only happen once, don't worry about it too much.  Up to you
[17:28] <robert83a2> anyone know from where the console gets it resolution ? I cannot change it with /etc/default/grub
[17:29] <jrib> AndyGraybeal: right click -> make link
[17:29] <xbonesx> i always thought it auto filled it out on the line not in something seperate
[17:29] <robert83a2> I'm in console without X installed
[17:29] <jrib> xbonesx: you can modify what it does
[17:29] <Renski> so adobe have released a preview version of a 64bit flash player for linux. Ive downloaded it, and it just contains libflashplayer.so
[17:29] <AndyGraybeal> thank you jrib
[17:29] <jrib> Renski: drop it in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[17:29] <Renski> im running 10.04, how do I install and use it?
[17:29] <Renski> ty jrib
[17:30] <NessQuick> Help. Ubuntu stopped autoconfiguring my internet connection for some reason. LiveCD allows it to work. Must be a software/driver/something issue. Any advice?
[17:30] <trojan_spike> /join #ubuntu+1
[17:30] <Ichat> jrib - i thought, about  'modding'  the iso include the packages id like   ... with the apt-2-cd tool perhaps??????
[17:31] <NessQuick> trojan_spike: Whom?
[17:31] <Renski> jrib, Ive got ~/.mozilla/extensions and ~/.mozilla/firefox
[17:31] <Ichat> jrib and than after that changing the 'update' settings to   security updates only
[17:31] <trojan_spike> / > my mistake
[17:31] <Renski> do I create plugins?
[17:32] <NessQuick> Silly me.
[17:32] <Ichat> so only 'really needed'  updates should  ware the disk... other than that i would  rather not have the disk be writable at all
[17:34] <trojan_spike> Ichat, u can do a ubuntu remix.. check it on the forum
[17:34] <Renski> yay! I has flash. I no longer have something in common with iphone users!
[17:36] <mhfs> hey there ... how do I make a ubuntu 10.04 desktop machine do not start X on boot time?
[17:36] <valentino_tuga> Hi . How do I change the theme of the login manager?
[17:37] <trojan_spike> valentino_tuga, do u mean main bootup / or splash screen?
[17:37] <robert83a2> hi, can someone take a look at this grub config file, nomatter what I do the $#@# console resolution wont change http://pastebin.com/sfFZ41Qz
[17:38] <valentino_tuga> trojsn_spike , the session that asks me for the password
[17:38] <juk> robert83a2:find auto adjust button on it
[17:38] <serapophis> mhfs, change it once or forever?
[17:38] <valentino_tuga> trojan_spike , the session that asks me for the password
[17:38] <mhfs> serapophis: forever
[17:38] <robert83a2> juk : funny :) , I need to change the console resoltuion
[17:39] <robert83a2> juk : why is it on auto...
[17:39] <nimbiotics> hi ya'll. im using ubuntu 10.,04 on a laptop w/1 HD. this HD has 3 partitions, a swap and ext4 and a NTFS. Is it possible to have ubuntu regain the NTFS space w/o having to reinstall the OS? if so, how or where can i find information on doing this? TIA!
[17:39] <trojan_spike> splash screen // package manager or software centre  valentino_tuga
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  you want to delete the ntfs and add that space to the ext4 ?
[17:40] <valentino_tuga> thanks.
[17:40] <trojan_spike> y.w
[17:41] <glaucous> I'm using crontab to run backup scripts (simple tar command), but when running (as sudo), it always ends up only compressing some files and the resulting .tar.gz file size is 51 KB (always) instead of 6.1 MB when I run it manually.
[17:41] <nimbiotics> Dr_Willis: yes, is that possible?
[17:41] <serapophis> mhfs: since /etc/inittab is gone since upstart arrived i guess you have to put a parameter into your kernel command line
[17:41] <jef91> Anyone know how to format charts in open office?
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  yes. gparted can resize ext2/3/4
[17:42] <jef91> Calc keeps asking for a data range but won't accept anything I enter for it
[17:42] <goddard> scite suckcs compared to notepad++ how can this be?
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:   or you can just format the ntfs to ext4 and mount it somewhere so you can access it and use teh drive for extra storage.
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  such as mounting it to /home/
[17:42] <babu__> evince is not working fine in my ubuntu10.04...wat to do
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> goddard:  i perfer geany these days
[17:43] <mhfs> serapophis: really? seems so overkilling
[17:43] <nimbiotics> Dr_Willis: let me explain my situation ...
[17:43] <JoeMaverickSett> !details | babu__
[17:44] <serapophis> mhfs: yeah just because i don't know any other solution doesn't mean there isn't another one
[17:44] <glib> does anyone here use a samsung clp-320n printer?  where did you find the drivers?
[17:45] <mhfs> serapophis: yeah ... thanks a lot for your help. I tried google but it isn't helping. a lot of old stuff.
[17:45] <serapophis> mhfs: why do you want to do that
[17:45] <babu__> evince is not working fine in my ubuntu10.04...wat to do
[17:45] <juk> robert83a2:sorry, see here http://tinyurl.com/48xm37
[17:45] <serapophis> mhfs: probably there is a more elegant solution to the original problem
[17:46] <robert83a2> juk : thankyou I'll read and try
[17:47] <babu__> evince is not working fine in my ubuntu10.04...wat to do
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> babu__:  clarify whats not working about it.
[17:47] <mhfs> serapophis: it's a desktop that end up as a server and know it's running short on memory ... need to free as much resource as possible
[17:47] <juk> robert83a2: they say you'd pass vga option to kernel at boot
[17:48] <goddard> Dr_Willis geany seems good can you change highlighting colors?
[17:48] <serapophis> mhfs: well your lucky there is a better solution ... install a proper server ;-)
[17:48] <babu__> evince does not open any documents
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> goddard:  never really tried.. proberly can.. its also got a windows port. :)  and i think theres a usb-portable apps version as well
[17:49] <mhfs> serapophis: lol ... I saw that one coming ... =) ... I intend to ... but I need an immediate solution prior to that .. =/
[17:49] <blackmatter> linux image 2.6.32-24 ok and working?
[17:49] <serapophis> mhfs: or you could try and remove the XServer and gnome packages
[17:49] <parkers_pete> got ubuntu installed on my netbook first time. YAY. now need to know more about linux itself and how to work with it, terminalcommands and stuff. anybody knows a good intro on the web for someone who is good at windows but aint got a bloody clue about linuxsystems?
[17:49] <nimbiotics> Dr_Willis: my ext4 partition is full, i dnt know why and cannot afford to check every file and see whats going on. i dnt mind losing the ntfs paertition; all i want 2 do is add more space for ubuntu. in a nutshell: i need some peace of mind right now. can you help me?
[17:49] <Cobalt19> hi all.
[17:49] <robert83a2> juk : this works, for grub itself... I can change the resolution during grub bootup, but once the actual system is up, and I'm at the login promt (console), I'm at my maximum display resolution... is there another file to configure ?
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  use gparted, format the ntfs to ext4  mount it to /media/ExtraStorage   copy stuff over :)
[17:50] <babu__> evince does not open any documents
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  whats using all yoru space? your users files? you can move some of the users from /home/whatever to /media/Extrastorage if you set up the proper links/permissions
[17:50] <mnemoc> hi, i'm installing an ltsp server (10.04) but bootstrap-base install fails because linux-headers-generic doesn't exist... can you please enlighten me?
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> babu__:  so you use file -> open  and select a file.. and what happens?
[17:50] <valentino_tuga> how do I install the gnome display manager?
[17:50] <Cobalt19> I have a question about installing drivers for wifi.
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> valentino_tuga:  sudo apt-get install gdm ( think) its the default in ubuntu
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> !info gdm
[17:51] <glaucous> Okay as I said I'm using crontab to run a tar command every day. Now I tested runScript > /tmp/backupLog.txt, and then it works properly. But as soon as I remove "> /tmp/backupLog.txt" - it stops working. The problem is that it doesn't compress all files.
[17:51] <valentino_tuga> thanks Dr_Willis
[17:51] <nimbiotics> Dr_Willis: i have no idea; that kight be the case as i did add acouple of users that are not really needed, how can i recover that space?
[17:51] <robert83a2> jak : I think it switches to some other driver then the GRUB uses, and that is causing my problem, it would be fine, it's only that I would like to know to MANUALY change this resoltuion
[17:51] <babu__> when i clicked to open with evince,it doesn't open.......but shows a panel belo for opening doc for a little time
[17:52] <juk> robert83a2: /etc/X11/xorg.conf perhaps
[17:52] <robert83a2> juk : that was my second guess but I don't have x11 installed
[17:52] <JoeMaverickSett> babu__: will this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1472642
[17:52] <babu__> when i clicked to open with evince,it doesn't open.......but shows a panel belo for opening doc for a little time
[17:52] <robert83a2> juk : I did a minimal system install
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  delete the users.. check your hard drive to see what  is using all the space.. clean out the log files.. clean out the apt cache... clean out the users caches...
[17:52] <robert83a2> juk : I can change the grub resoltuion to whatever I want...but my console is locked at 1280x1024
[17:53] <robert83a2> juk : 10.04 is beta?
[17:53] <collabra> what's the command to update grub? I'm using grub2....
[17:53] <juk> robert83a2: no it's current
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> robert83a2:  fbset command dosent work ?  not a perfect fix.. but a way to change res on the fly once you are using a framebuffer console
[17:53] <Renski> I thought it was a extended support release
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> collabra:  sudo update-grub
[17:53] <robert83a2> dr_willis : I havent tried
[17:53] <collabra> thankx
[17:53] <robert83a2> dr_willis : I'll try
[17:53] <trojan_spike> collabra, sudo update-grub
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> robert83a2:  personally i disable the framebuffer. :)
[17:53] <cannonfodder> hey you guys does ubuntu come with ftp?
[17:54] <cannonfodder> or any way to connect to ftp server
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> cannonfodder:  you can install a ftp server if you want
[17:54] <Renski> cannonfodder, it comes with an ftp client
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> cannonfodder:  you can connect to a ftp server with any of  a dozen+ programs
[17:54] <valentino_tuga> i get an error when i  try to run gdm. I'm using ubuntu netbook edition
[17:54] <babu__> when i clicked to open with evince,it doesn't open.......but shows a panel belo for opening doc for a little time
[17:54] <babu__> when i clicked to open with evince,it doesn't open.......but shows a panel belo for opening doc for a little time
[17:54] <cannonfodder> ok wait the ftp client
[17:54] <robert83a2> dr_willis : I think I'll disable it to...I'll google for it
[17:54] <GauravButola> how do I remove the elementary logo after installing elementary theme and get back the ubuntu logo?
[17:54] <aBaldrich> or in firefox use the url bar and put ftp://yourdomain.com
[17:54] <erUSUL> !repeat | babu__
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> valentino_tuga:  try 'sudo service gdm start' ?
[17:54] <Cobalt19> Whenever I try to activate the Broadcom STA driver, I get an error message that says: SystemError: installArchives() failed
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> robert83a2:   the 'text' option to grub, will disable  plymouth, and boot to a text display. but im not sure if that disables the framebuffer or not. You may have to blacklist the framebuffer module.
[17:55] <babu__> i cannot open any doc with evince
[17:55] <robert83a2> dr_willis : thank you very much!!!
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> babu__:  run evince from a terminal, try to open somthing, look for error messages.
[17:55] <erUSUL> babu__: can you launch it from terminal? see if it gioves usefull error report?
[17:55] <frans> hi
[17:56] <mknix> hi all
[17:56] <valentino_tuga> Dr_Willis, it says: start: Job is already running: gdm
[17:56] <babu__> i tried...here is the error.... symbol lookup error: evince: undefined symbol: ev_get_locale_dir
[17:56] <collabra> i'm getting an error: unknown LVM metadata header. while updating the grub.cfg,... ever since today's kernel update
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> valentino_tuga:  try 'sudo service gdm restart'  - that may reset your X session...
[17:56] <babu__> i tried...here is the error.... symbol lookup error: evince: undefined symbol: ev_get_locale_dir
[17:56] <collabra> anyone know what this is or how to fix it.
[17:56] <seyfi> hello, I want to change desktop language, but the lang appears disabled in Language Selector (yes, it's installed). Now what?
[17:57] <mhfs> serapophis: considering that. thanks.
[17:57] <GauravButola> anybody? on the above question
[17:57] <JoeMaverickSett> babu__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9699962
[17:57] <Cobalt19> SystemError: installArchives() failed
[17:58] <nimbiotics> Dr_Willis: thats exactly what im trying to do, going thru the ext4 partition as i really dnt know what to look for (excdept for i can see in my docs or downloads). at this moment, i need to install a couple of apps and dnt have enough space. being new to this OS, i havent yet found the way to tell the os where to copy the files of the installed apps, thats why im asking if theres a way to...
[17:58] <nimbiotics> ...add the space now occupied by ntfs to my "file system"
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  the package manager installs them where they need to go. You dont normally tell it otherwise.
[17:59] <JoeMaverickSett> Cobalt19: did you get that error from NVIDIA graphic driver while trying to activate it?
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  gparted can delete the ntfs and resize the ext4 to use the empty space. but it may take some time to do the job.
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  how big of space is your ubuntu on now?
[18:00] <serapophis> GauravButola, there is an option in ubuntu-tweak, whick is the easiest way to change it i guess
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  sudo apt-get autoclean     -> will clean your apt cache.. its like  a few GB here on this box.. :)
[18:00] <GauravButola> serapophis: thanks, let me try to find it. If you know where it is in Ub tweak, can u tell me?
[18:01] <nimbiotics> Dr_Willis: 22gb
[18:01] <wabash> I've got a laptop with an RGB port. If I get an external monitor, can I run in dual-head configuration? Does it mean that I'll be able to track the mouse across both monitors
[18:01] <wabash> ?
[18:01] <masen> wabash: generally that's the case, you may lose compositing however
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  and your ntfs is how big?
[18:01] <masen> wabash: do you know what kind of chip you have?
[18:01] <Cobalt19> JoeMaverickSett: oh. cool.
[18:01] <wabash> masen: thank you. What is compositing?
[18:01] <wabash> masen: Let me look:
[18:02] <nimbiotics> Dr_Willis: 95gb
[18:02] <GauravButola> serapophis: thanks alot
[18:02] <babu__> thanks pal....my evince problem s solved
[18:02] <GauravButola> serapophis: i have found it. thanks a ton :) :)
[18:02] <JoeMaverickSett> Cobalt19: so, where did the error show?
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  you could use gparted, to format it to ext4. and have it mounted to /home/ and move your users files to it. that would give them 95gb to play with. :)
[18:02] <serapophis> GauravButola, sorry have non english version so ...
[18:02] <wabash> masen It's an integrated chipset. Recent, 2009. Intel.
[18:02] <masen> wabash: no compositing is the equivalent of setting visual effects to none in Appearance orefs
[18:02] <masen> prefs*
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  or just use gparted to resize the ext4 to use it all..
[18:02] <wabash> masen: You want part number?
[18:02] <serapophis> GauravButola, ^^, np
[18:03] <masen> wabash: yes please if handy?
[18:03] <wabash> masen: Mobile Intel GM45.
[18:03] <wabash> Is that what you wanted?
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  or you may just have a few things taing up a lot of space.
[18:03] <nimbiotics> Dr_Willis: resizing sound more like the solution im looking forward. is it that easy? just tell gparted to resize the ext4 partition using the btfs partition?
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  perhaps check out --> http://www.suseblog.com/linux-commands-for-what-is-taking-up-all-my-space/
[18:03] <masen> wabash: yes, that's rough. intel chips are notoriously sub par in linux
[18:03] <drjo> hello im looking for software to delvier mathmatical papers, especially logic
[18:03] <coolroot> can anyone give a link of how to make good desktop on ubuntu 10.04? step by step tutorial?
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  delete the ntfs. resize the ext4, click apply button,,, go  fix lunch...
[18:04] <JoeMaverickSett> Cobalt19: take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1485556.html
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  and Hope you dont have a power failure.
[18:04] <masen> wabash: i can't make any gurantees, but every intel chip i've encountered has had problems with high res compositing
[18:04] <robert83a2> yeah I did it, everything is green now :D :D :D but atleast I now have a resolution of 800x600x16
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  moving to a new /home/ = a lot less time. :) but do what you want.
[18:04] <mnemoc> hi, when installing an ltsp server (4th time) 10.04/amd64 I'm asked to choose between linux-generic, linux-image-generic and linux-image-2.6.32-21-generic ... but whatever I choose fails... where can i delete previusly downloaded files in the case it's failing because something got corrupted while downloading? it does try to create the initrd... but in alt-f4 it whines about linux-headers not existing
[18:04] <masen> nvidia and ati are the only cards that one could say really do "well"
[18:04] <wabash> masen: Interesting. THanks.
[18:05] <drjo> i need to be able to write text and logical symbols easily, and print to pdf
[18:05] <wabash> masen: But contiguous desktop should work?
[18:05] <robert83a2> had to add this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset" , is this only FRAMEBUFFER related?
[18:05] <drjo> is there anything like that out there for ubuntu?
[18:05] <masen> wabash: yes. if you have issues, disable visual effects in your Appearance prefs and see if that helps
[18:06] <gx> Hi guys, I'm having an issue, not sure if it's ubuntu related might be more apache related. But... I just set up this new VPS (ubuntu 10.4), followed the "perfect server" guide on howtoforge. Installed ISPConfig... and set up a DNS zone for mydomain.com through the linode dashboard. At that point, the domain resolved fine, but it pointed to /var/www (web root). I then added the domain as a 'site' in ISPConfig because I wanted it to point t
[18:06] <Cobalt19> JoeMaverickSett: thank you.
[18:06] <gx> Ever since i've done that, the domain won't even resolve
[18:06] <gx> The weird thing is I can ftp in fine using hte ispconfig-created username if i FTP to www.mydomain.com
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> robert83a2:  the grub2 wiki page/docs  i saw on the forums detail ehat each setting does..
[18:06] <JoeMaverickSett> drjo: you could try Open Office Formula.
[18:06] <LucidGuy> Simple quesiton.  Would a laptop that is labeled containing an 802.11n card work with an 802.11a AP/network?
[18:06] <wabash> masen: Very interesting. Well, I don't have teh monitor yet. I wanted to make sure this would work before I buy it.
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> robert83a2:  see http://delicious.com/dr_willis/grub2  (i think i got that right)
[18:07] <coolroot> can anyone give a link of how to make good desktop on ubuntu 10.04? step by step tutorial?
[18:07] <Opsrc> Hi, can anyone tell me how to upgrade JDK to version 1.5 or above in ubuntu ??
[18:07] <masen> wabash: well like i said, the main functionality you'll probably be giving up is eye candy so it's a personal preference
[18:07] <wabash> masen: I turned off effects, and the window animations for closing are gone. And then I can't use the neet switching feature to switch between miniature windows....
[18:07] <wabash> masen: Right.
[18:07] <nimbiotics> Dr_Willis: will check whats using up my space, but i think i'll go for the resize if its that simple. i guess i shouldnt fear a power failure as im using the laptop ... hopefully. anyways THANKS A LOT! appreciate your help
[18:07] <mac> can anyone tell me a german irc chat ubuntu
[18:08] <wabash> masen: Is it necessarily so? Or just your experience in general with the intel chipset drivers?
[18:08] <drjo> JoeMaverickSett: is that a feature in openoffice writer?
[18:08] <gx> wabash: if you use mibbit client you can auto-translate
[18:08] <wabash> gx: wrong person.
[18:08] <masen> wabash: it's been my experience with non nvidia/ati chips
[18:08] <gx> oh
[18:08] <gx> oops!
[18:08] <gx> mac: if you use mibbit client you can auto-translate
[18:08] <JoeMaverickSett> drjo: i think not. try finding it in Software Centre.
[18:09] <mac> mibbit on ubuntu ? cool i try
[18:09] <gx> not on ubuntu
[18:09] <gx> it's a web app
[18:09] <datacrusher> isnt mibbit online only?
[18:09] <gx> for irc
[18:09] <wabash> masen: Ok, thank you. So *possibly*, since it's somewhat new, it could *possibly* work with compositing. But I can be mostly certain that dual head extended desktop would work fine, albeit maybe without compositing.
[18:09] <wabash> masen: Correct?
[18:09] <drjo> JoeMaverickSett: it says its installed, so i guess it came with ubuntu default, going to see if i find it in any of the menus of writer :p
[18:09] <mac> it´s not a problem - i think i can chat english as well ;)
[18:09] <masen> wabash: that's accurate
[18:09] <wedwo> mac, #ubuntu-de
[18:10] <mac> thx
[18:10] <wabash> masen: Thank you.
[18:10] <nimbiotics> Dr_Willis: any other warnings b4 trying the resize? can/should i still use the system while this is going on? TIA
[18:10] <JoeMaverickSett> drjo: for me i can just go to it by Applications > Office > Open Office Formula. :)
[18:11] <wabash> masen: Any idea with high special effects settings how to get the compiz desktop cube display thingy going?
[18:11] <Opsrc> Hi, can anyone tell me how to upgrade JDK to version 1.5 or above in ubuntu ??
[18:11] <wabash> Opsrc: It should be a Sun package in Synaptic.
[18:11] <drjo> JoeMaverickSett: did it come default?
[18:11] <wabash> i have 1.6, even the most current release
[18:11] <serapophis> Opsrc, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[18:12] <masen> wabash: you need to install compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:12] <JoeMaverickSett> Opsrc: try this http://www.idroidproject.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=194
[18:12] <wabash> masen: Ok thanks.
[18:12] <Saket> hey guys
[18:12] <Opsrc> yeah i installed it in that way,but when i'm running a hadoop program on it,its giving an error related to version,essentialy it's asking to upgrade to a version 1.5 o betr
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  i always use a gparted live cd to do my resizeing.  The biggest issue that may happen is the 'uuid' of the partition may change. (check the blkid command) and be sure to fix your /etc/fstab IF it has a entry thats automunting the ntfs.
[18:12] <masen> wabash: then ALL the effects settings can be accessed through System > Preferences > CompizConfig Settings Manager
[18:12] <JoeMaverickSett> drjo: i don't think so. i think you have to install Open Office.org suite or something. i forgot. :)
[18:12] <wabash> masen: Fooling around with it, I don't see any difference on my computer between Normal and Extra. I suppose I'll stick with normal.
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> well i will be back in about 10 hrs.. bye all
[18:13] <Saket> i am not able to detect my network drivers in my lucid
[18:13] <JoeMaverickSett> Opsrc: might this work for you. http://www.idroidproject.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=194
[18:13] <coolroot>   Dr_Willis : can u help me find a good site where it teaches good stuffs on how to make a presentable desktop on 10.04?
[18:13] <Opsrc> JoeMaverickSett: Hey looking at it thanks :)
[18:13] <serapophis> Opsrc, and what does "java -version" on the terminal say
[18:13] <masen> wabash: i heard that. i've never looked up the difference personal, but have always stuck with extra on my nvidia/ati cards. normal or none on others
[18:14] <masen> wabash: i can't discern a practical difference however
[18:14] <Opsrc> serapophis: java version "1.6.0_18"
[18:14] <drjo> JoeMaverickSett: i found something called MainMenu under system preferences, it was set to be hidden by default, thanks for the help :)
[18:14] <wabash> masen: Cool. thank you for your help.
[18:14] <masen> no prob
[18:14] <JoeMaverickSett> Opsrc: no problem, hope it helps.
[18:14] <Opsrc> ok
[18:14] <wabash> Opsrc: That's a fairly recent version.... not the latest.
[18:15] <nimbiotics> Dr_Willis: live CD? not from menu?
[18:15] <JoeMaverickSett> drjo: oh, that. i didn't think of it. hope you enjoy. :)
[18:15] <Opsrc> wabash: yes,but my program is asking for a particular older one :(
[18:16] <wx9j> I encrypt a file via command line using gpg, but then it will not decrypt correctly
[18:16] <CaBa> hi
[18:16] <JoeMaverickSett> !welcome | CaBa
[18:17] <drjo> what is a good font for writing documents, the default one looks kinda faded
[18:17] <CaBa> do i need to tell apt somehow to refresh the keys it uses after adding keys with apt-key?
[18:17] <serapophis> Opsrc, whats the name of the program you running and what exactly does it say in the error message
[18:17] <CaBa> i added the key i signed the Release file with but it still complains... and the error message somehwat indicates that it tries to verify the signature using the ubuntu package pubkey
[18:18] <Bahr> Hi I want to install ubuntu and am a new user. I read, that the 64 bit is not recommend, but shouldn't it be the 64 bit version I have to install, when I have an i3 processor?
[18:19] <valentino_tuga> how do  i change the theme of gnome desktop manager?
[18:19] <Bahr> cause at the download page it says that the 64 bit version is not recommend for daily desktop use, and that is what I plan to use it for
[18:20] <trojan_spike> valentino_tuga, right click ? change desktop background
[18:20] <CaBa> ah... 'apt-key update' did the trick
[18:20] <Opsrc> serapophis: I'm running a java program on hadoop0.20.2 error : Syntax error, parameterized types are only available if source level is 1.5
[18:21] <drjo> JoeMaverickSett: how do i put the formulas made in OO math into writer ?
[18:21] <valentino_tuga> trojan_spike, when i change theme using your method it wont change the theme of gdm
[18:22] <JoeMaverickSett> drjo: i do not know that. I, myself haven't gone beyond more than OO Document. :)
[18:22] <trojan_spike> u asked me how to change the splash screen..
[18:23] <serapophis> Opsrc, and it is coded by you? the error message is indicating that during the compile step the compiler realized that the source is using generics even the source level is set below 1.5
[18:23] <drjo> JoeMaverickSett: isnt writer the document thing? sorry, im abit confused, i need to put the formulas i make in math into a document
[18:23] <JoeMaverickSett> drjo: try this http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2919
[18:24] <valentino_tuga> no. i dont want to change the splash screen. i want to change the theme of the login manager
[18:24] <serapophis> Opsrc, it seems the error is not ubuntu related and you might want to ask the developer of the program for help
[18:24] <nkn> anyone know the cause for "no init found try passing init = bootarg" ?
[18:24] <valentino_tuga> the place where i insert my password
[18:24] <JoeMaverickSett> drjo: i think that's what you are looking for. i think writer = document thingy. :)
[18:24] <Opsrc>  serapophis,trying out ..
[18:27] <drjo> JoeMaverickSett: nice thats exactly what i was looking for, dont even need to go into math, it pops up a little formula shell at the bottom :)
[18:27] <annon> hi. I just installed 10.04.1 LTS, but every time it boots up my monitor says "video mode not supported" and it stays that way. what can I do about it? seems kind of odd that even the splash screen mode is not supported.
[18:27] <juk> how to set firefox to go googlelucky for unresolved string
[18:27] <JoeMaverickSett> drjo: okie. i'm glad that helped you. :)
[18:27] <drjo> JoeMaverickSett: but i guess i should tech myself latex at some point :p
[18:28] <adalal> hey, how do i only download a deb from the repository to transfer to another system, but not install it? i tried apt-get -d install, but the program is already installed, but i need the .deb for another computer not on the network
[18:28] <JoeMaverickSett> drjo: that's what i was thinking 2 days ago. :)
[18:28] <erUSUL> adalal: go to packages.ubuntu.com dwonload from there
[18:29] <valentino_tuga> how do i enable the login window on ubuntu netbook edition?
[18:29] <mknix> why ~/.Xsession script doesn't work in ubuntu?
[18:29] <zeus> 123456
[18:30] <aeon-ltd> mknix: are you using a login manager?
[18:30] <BaseBallBoy> Hey guys, what's up?
[18:30] <Agu10> how can I enable synonyms for spanish in open office??
[18:30] <mknix> aeon-ltd, yes
[18:31] <aeon-ltd> mknix: which one?
[18:31] <mknix> gdm
[18:31] <aeon-ltd> mknix: whats in the script?
[18:32] <BaseBallBoy> Okay, I feel like a sinner saying this but I need to partition my hdd for windows (I have things I need for school that only seem to run on windows) Anyone care to help me?
[18:32] <mknix> aeon-ltd, i think it's gdm well, the default one which is shipped with 10.04 :)
[18:32] <trijntje> Hi all, how can I kill a zombi process, sudo kill -9 does not help
[18:32] <akSeya> why, oh, why grub-mkconfig assume every linux installed is Ubuntu?
[18:32] <adalal> erUSUL: thanks
[18:33] <aeon-ltd> mknix: yeah, but whats in the script?, cos gdm and upstart could just handle whatever your trying to launch at login/boot
[18:33] <BitEncrypt> any reason why the dual boot screen wont come up. i have win.xp.
[18:33] <akSeya> it recognizes slackware but add it as Ubuntu in grub.cfg
[18:33] <erUSUL> trijntje: zombie processes are already dead; you can not kill them
[18:33] <mknix> aeon-ltd, a lot of things, i want to load some gnome apps in awesome wm
[18:33] <trijntje> erUSUL, Firefox wont start because it thinks its already active, and I have a firefox zombi. How do I get rid of it?
[18:33] <erUSUL> trijntje: sometimes killing the parent can get rid of them. sometimes a reboot is the only thing you can do
[18:33] <aeon-ltd> mknix: meh, my opinion, don't use gdm just use startx/xinit with .xinitrc
[18:33] <wx9j> BitEncrypt, do you have service pack 3 installed in your windows ?
[18:34] <mdel> trijntje: killall -9 firefox-bin
[18:34] <BitEncrypt> wx9j: idk
[18:34] <trijntje> mdel, thanks, a lot, forgot firefox is firefox-bin
[18:34] <mdel> np
[18:34] <BitEncrypt> wx9j: just the home ed. of xp
[18:35] <mknix> aeon-ltd, so, there is no such script? i wonder
[18:35] <mdel> happens to me all the time when I use nxclient
[18:35] <wx9j> BitEncrypt, look at the readme file in the install disc for XP, was it working b4 ?
[18:35] <xbonesx> what do you type to show what dir your in at the moment
[18:35] <nothingspecial> pwd
[18:35] <aeon-ltd> mknix: .xsession should work, cos if selected gdm will read and run that file
[18:35] <xbonesx> ty
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  the bash prompt normally shows that also.
[18:36] <BitEncrypt> wx9j: ive had it working with the same cd before on another comp.
[18:36] <nothingspecial> xbonesx, not if you don`t want it to
[18:36] <mknix> aeon-ltd, how exactly the script should be named? .xsession (all in lower case) ?
[18:37] <mernilio> Hi all
[18:37] <cannonfodder> hey you guys how do i convert like 40 files into another format using sox?  i tried sox *.aiff tracks.wav but it converts all the files into one massive one...i just want it to convert each aiff file to a file with same name but with .wav extension
[18:37] <xbonesx> k thanks guys
[18:37] <aeon-ltd> mknix: lower case should work aswell
[18:37] <dajhorn> cannonfodder: Use a `for` loop.
[18:37] <mernilio> Seriously, why does it sound in my speakers when i scroll a web page? I do have my speakers quit close to my monitor, but that cant be it, can it?
[18:38] <akSeya> cannonfodder: you can do:  for i in *.aiff; do sox $i $(basename $i .aiff).wav; done
[18:39] <cannonfodder> akSeya is that bash script
[18:39] <akSeya> yeap ;)
[18:39] <cannonfodder> thanks
[18:39] <mernilio> cjackson: maybe with some script .. for each aiff .. do convert ..
[18:40] <serapophis> mknix, aeon-ltd: but you have to install a "custom.desktop" file in /usr/share/xsessions to get the custom option in gdm
[18:40] <erUSUL> cannonfodder: for f in *.aiff; do sox "$f" "${f%.aiff}.wav"; done
[18:40] <mernilio> i dont care.. i prefer mp3:s that's my choise of propriated algorithms i use with my stolen music :-P
[18:41] <serapophis> mknix, aeon-ltd: this applies on ubuntu too http://bugs.gentoo.org/44537
[18:41] <xbonesx> anyone installed dosbox via apt-get and has been able to successfully edited the dosbox.conf file for auto mounting?
[18:42] <cannonfodder> thanks erUSUL ill tri if that one work
[18:42] <xbonesx> http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/Dosbox.conf#Linux
[18:42] <akSeya> cannonfodder: erUSUL is wright... i forgot the " if the filename has spaces my code could break
[18:43] <cannonfodder> that worked
[18:43] <cannonfodder> thanks
[18:43] <valentino_tuga> ubuntu netbook doesnt have login window. how do i install it?
[18:43] <cannonfodder> thanks guys i gotta increase memory so ima close this chat
[18:43] <hadi57> hi all, i am facing problem for the 2rd time on removable hardisk that cant be seen any more, any one can help me?
[18:44] <BaseBallBoy> again, Okay, I feel like a sinner saying this but I need to partition my hdd for windows (I have things I need for school that only seem to run on windows) Anyone care to help me?
[18:44] <erUSUL> BaseBallBoy: maybe a virtual machine is enough?
[18:44] <erUSUL> !vbox | BaseBallBoy
[18:45] <maedox> BaseBallBoy, erUSUL, or it might run in wine
[18:45] <maedox> !wine | BaseBallBoy
[18:45] <BaseBallBoy> A virtual machine isn't all that good at running adobe cs5
[18:45] <BaseBallBoy> nor wine
[18:45] <maedox> true :D
[18:46] <maedox> How is your partition setup?
[18:46] <maedox> you could make some free space with Gparted, and make a ntfs partition in it.
[18:46] <xbonesx> whats the command line for creating a shortcut of a file???
[18:47] <ectospasm> xbonesx: ln -s orig.file symlink
[18:47] <xbonesx> ectospasm: ty
[18:47] <ectospasm> xbonesx: or if you want a hard link, drop the -s
[18:47] <dancrew32> trying to monkey with the config file for my 10.04 remote desktop over ssh, but I'm not sure what "Remote Desktop" is actually called. Anyone know?
[18:47] <adalal> hey, one more question, how do you reinstate windows mbr?
[18:48] <xbonesx> just for dosbox, that's located in /usr/bin/, so i can boot from desktop
[18:48] <mgolisch> adalal: boot the installcd?
[18:48] <ectospasm> dancrew32: there's VNC, and RDP
[18:48] <ectospasm> dancrew32: you can also install NX
[18:48] <adalal> mgolisch: um, can i just log into windows from the grub and install it?
[18:48] <erUSUL> adalal: boot with a windows installcd into recovery mode. run « fixmbr » more help in ##windows
[18:48] <maedox> adalal, you're probably best off with doing a boot repair with a windows cd.
[18:48] <ectospasm> dancrew32: NX will probably provide the best performance
[18:49] <adalal> maedox: the computer comes with a recovery partition, not a windows cd, will that work?
[18:49] <maedox> adalal, it might, just make sure you don't overwrite your installation.
[18:49] <ectospasm> adalal: you can run fixmbr from the Windows recovery console
[18:50] <maedox> adalal, why would you want your windows mbr back? o_O
[18:50] <ectospasm> adalal: IIRC, it's been a LOONG time
[18:50] <mgolisch> adalal: dunno in vista maybe in xp probably not, easiest is booting the windows installation cd and and run fixmbr from the recovery console (xp) or bootrec /fixmbr from a cmd prompt on the vista/win7 install dvd
[18:51] <adalal> mgolisch: the only problem is taht i dont have a windows cd
[18:51] <adalal> just a partition for it
[18:51] <juk> file owned by me is readable, why ls says permission denyed
[18:52] <mgolisch> juk: is it a directory? you need execute permissions to traverse directories
[18:52] <maedox> adalal, you could probably legally download one if you have a license. if you don't no one cares anyway. :D
[18:52] <adalal> ectospasm: can the recovery console be run from within the recovery partition for windows?
[18:52] <juk> mgolisch:no css file
[18:53] <mgolisch> juk: its probably not readable for your user then
[18:53] <ectospasm> adalal: that depends on the recovery partition
[18:53] <adalal> ectospasm: thanks
[18:53] <ectospasm> adalal: but usually you can hit F8 (or whatever) when Windows boots, and select the recovery console from there
[18:53] <mgolisch> adalal: usualy not, the recovery partition usualy just contains some diskimage and imaging software like ghost
[18:54] <maedox> juk, sudo chmod +x .; sudo chmod u+r filename
[18:54] <maedox> or just a +r, the owner can probably read it.
[18:54] <juk> maedox:yes, cool
[18:54] <maedox> to change owner use sudo chown user.group filename
[18:55] <maedox> .group can be omitted of course
[18:55] <lsubuntu> what is the command in ubuntu to check the version of ubuntu from terminal?
[18:55] <mc_> has anyone else upgraded 10.04 today and had it fail on xulrunner-1.9.2.10?
[18:55] <mc_> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Q387uPTD
[18:55] <ectospasm> lsubuntu: lsb_release -a
[18:55] <lsubuntu> ectospasm: thanks
[18:55] <abhijit> where is asp.net channel?
[18:56] <mc_> complains of undefined symbol PR_SetPollableEvent
[18:56] <erUSUL> abhijit: /msg alis list *asp*
[18:56] <abhijit> erUSUL, ok
[18:56] <ash4n> does the eclipse in ubuntu software center take much time?
[18:56] <ectospasm> ash4n: rephrase your questoin
[18:56] <maedox> ash4n, depends on your code quality :D
[18:56] <abhijit> erUSUL, its ##aspx and its dead!
[18:56] <ectospasm> s/oin/ion
[18:57] <erUSUL> abhijit: nothing i can do about it
[18:57] <abhijit> erUSUL, nvm found another one
[18:58] <jonah_> en
[18:58] <XNY> testing testing 123 123
[18:59] <mc_> the upgrade has also affected pidgin; can't start with a "pidgin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libnss3.so: undefined symbol: PL_NewHashTable" error
[18:59] <xbonesx> linux is pretty kool, anyone have a good starter page for simple commands in the terminal
[19:00] <erUSUL> !cli | xbonesx
[19:02] <chull> i have a new installation of ubuntu 10.04, do i have javascript running?
[19:02] <aseem> chull,yes.
[19:02] <mc_> no one else had issues upgrading the last day or two?
[19:02] <spackler> nope
[19:02] <aseem> mc_,yeah i had.
[19:03] <ash4n> which command for viewing manual?
[19:03] <mc_> aseem:  i'm not sure why these symbol errors have popped up
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> !manual | xbonesx
[19:03] <XNY> sdsd
[19:03] <mc_> i asked the pidgin guys but they think its the ubuntu packaging that broke
[19:03] <xbonesx> ty
[19:03] <tdn> I keep getting these errors in the log: swapper: page allocation failure. order:2, mode:0x4020    What is causing this, and how do I prevent it?
[19:03] <mc_> feel like i'm running in circles trying to find where the error originated from
[19:03] <xbonesx> I need some help with getting latest java setup
[19:04] <IsmAvatar> Hey guys, I was wondering how I could interpret the meaning of block characters that commonly appear in like the terminal for an unrecognized character/encoding. Like I'll see a block with 4 numbers in it. what do those numbers mean?
[19:04] <mich2000> does anyone know a good wireless network card that is supported on ubuntu/linux?
[19:04] <xbonesx> tried to run the synaptic package manager and web still says not up to date
[19:04] <samuell> What is the best option for enabling the PHP mail() function ... since sendmail seem rather broken in Ubuntu 10.04 (generating broken sendmail.cf)?
[19:04] <aeon-ltd> mich2000: most broadcom ones
[19:04] <mc_> is there a more appropriate channel to ask?
[19:04] <serapophis> xbonesx, there is a package in the repos sun-java6-jre
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  the version in the repository is nto new enough? last i checked sun java was like a .01 version # differnt
[19:04] <xbonesx> mich2000: ya i just got one working today pm if you want to talk
[19:04] <aeon-ltd> mich2000: but i have no hands on experience with them
[19:04] <moonlite> My screen on my laptop is dimmed when i run on battery. This is fine. But the connection isn't that good anymore so what happens is that the computer thinks it's on battery for a fraction of a second and then on power again and then back again. Thank god that i don't have problems with epilepsy. ;)
[19:04] <chull> aseem, i'm trying to login to purchase something and the lack of javascript is one of the three possible reasons why it's not working.  the others are : 1. enable cookies (on firefox) 2. refresh the page. I've put in the correct information a dozen times and talked to their support..
[19:04] <moonlite> does anyone know how to turn this featur off=
[19:05] <xbonesx> serapophis: and Dr_Willis: ty
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> moonlite:  its in the screensaver/powersaver/power settings area
[19:05] <mich2000> aeon-ltd: Thanks!!
[19:05] <erUSUL> moonlite: systemZ>preferences>power managment?
[19:05] <wessel> hello, I just did a clean ubuntu install, can someone give me this package name for all this java stuff
[19:05] <wessel> something with essentials
[19:05] <wessel> It needs to be Java Development Kid x64
[19:06] <candyban> anyone familiar with streaming video to ps3?
[19:06] <coz_> wessel,   did you enable the partner repositories?
[19:06] <wessel> but I'm on Ubuntu x64, so should do this automatically
[19:06] <chull> moonlite, eewww, you probably want to fix power settings (not sure how to do it)
[19:06] <wessel> coz_, I just did an install :o
[19:06] <IsmAvatar> if I see a block character with the numbers 00 and 91 on each row, what do those numbers mean?
[19:06] <moonlite> well, there's no settings there and i didn't find anything in gnome-power-managers gconf-settings which makes me think that this is an automatic and non configurable feature or that it is out sourced to upower
[19:06] <wessel> so its out of the box
[19:06] <erUSUL> !java | wessel
[19:06] <coz_> wessel,  ok open  system/aministration/synaptic package manager
[19:06] <wessel> not java run time..
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  ubuntu-restricted-extras installs java. but its not the sun jkava. its the icedtea java
[19:06] <candyban> I tried mediatomb (very choppy) and ps3mediaplayer (nothing + extremely slow directory browsing)
[19:07] <wessel> Dr_Willis, ah, is this bad?
[19:07] <ubuntufan> I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 on a 2.5" HDD and it says "DISK FAILURE IS IMMINENT". What shall I do?
[19:07] <XNY> :)
[19:07] <coz_> wessel,  that is fixable
[19:07] <coz_> wessel,  open synaptic
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  ive had no issues with the icedtea java in the various java apps i use.
[19:07] <coz_> wessel,  when synaptic is opened  click "Settings  / Repositories"
[19:07] <XNY> xchat doesn't have smiley icons
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufan:  check the errors its recording.. and you may want to be investing in a new HD.. ive had drives with that same worning that last for a long time.. but still the hard drive is the weakest link these days
[19:08] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis: i choose the .bin one, was that the right one, it added a few others that i would need?
[19:08] <erUSUL> restricted installs jre and plugin for firefox
[19:08] <coz_> wessel,  go to the "Other software"  tab  and tick both partner repositories
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  You really should just use java from the repositories.. thats the easiest way.. unless you have a real NEED for the absolute latest java..
[19:08] <ubuntufan> Dr_Willis: It has 995 bad sectors.
[19:08] <chull> how do i know if javascript is running?
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  see the directions coz_  is giving wessel  of you want the sun java.
[19:08] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis: just wanted to have things up-to-date
[19:08] <spackler> ubuntufan: Back it up - like now!
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> chull:  javascript is a feature of the browser.. so what are you truying to do also.
[19:09] <coolroot> i open terminal and i got the coolroot@coolroot:$ how can i go to /usr/share/images/xsplash folder?
[19:09] <ubuntufan> spackler: There is no data on it.
[19:09] <coz_> wessel,  close that  Reload... first   hit "Search"  then type in icedtead.... mark ALL of the ones listed as installed   to "REMOVE COMPLETELY"
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  its not worth the hassle for a .01 version differance in java.
[19:09] <candyban> ubuntufan, they are usually the result of S.M.A.R.T. errors ... check exact information with smartmon tools
[19:09] <mich2000> right now I have a Belkin card but as far as i know there are no linux drivers so i used ndiswrapper to install the windows driver. it works but it also makes my system crash
[19:09] <coz_> wessel,   then hit Search again  and type   sun java   scroll down for the sun-java6  packages
[19:09] <chull> Dr_Willis, 'm trying to login to purchase something and the lack of javascript is one of the three possible reasons why it's not working.  the others are : 1. enable cookies (on firefox) 2. refresh the page. I've put in the correct information a dozen times and talked to their support..
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  the icedtea java in the repos will proberly work for you rune.
[19:09] <erUSUL> coolroot: cd /usr/share/images/xsplash
[19:09] <xbonesx> i got the sun-java6.bin or something like that
[19:09] <wessel> but do I need sun?
[19:09] <erUSUL> !cli > coolroot
[19:09] <spackler> ubuntufan: I have always found that once they start going, it's only a matter of time. Can you just replace it?
[19:09] <coz_> wessel,   tick the ones you want  including the sun-java6-plugin
[19:09] <erUSUL> xbonesx: do not use it. use the packaged versions
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> chull:  its a feature of your browser.. perhaps you have noscript isntalled. or have it turned off.. its not the default.
[19:09] <ubuntufan> spackler: No.
[19:09] <wessel> I use a java data mining toolkit, so it needs to have x64 java run time
[19:10] <erUSUL> !java | xbonesx
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> chull:  try installing opera or chrome and see if it works in a different browser.
[19:10] <mich2000> right now I have a Belkin card but as far as i know there are no linux drivers so i used ndiswrapper to install the windows driver. it works but it also makes my system crash
[19:10] <chull> Dr_Willis, no i don't have noscript
[19:10] <wessel> and makes sense to get x64 bit java development kit also
[19:10] <swampt> bye bye
[19:10] <wessel> but I think icetea or sun are both good
[19:10] <mich2000> right now I have a Belkin card but as far as i know there are no linux drivers so i used ndiswrapper to install the windows driver. it works but it also makes my system crash
[19:10] <searchfgold> !java | searchfgold
[19:10] <coz_> wessel,   did you check all of that I just posted?
[19:10] <wessel> yes
[19:10] <chull> Dr_Willis, good idea thanks
[19:10] <coolroot> erUSUL: i just install conky is there any apps that works like conky that is easy to install?
[19:10] <coz_> wessel,   ok and did the sun java6  packages show up in the list?
[19:10] <wessel> you explain to me sun java, but I'm okay with any java I think :o
[19:10] <erUSUL> coolroot: screenlets?
[19:11] <wessel> or is there some reason not to use icetead?
[19:11] <coz_> wessel,   that is going to be dependent on if the applications and needs you have work with icedtea....they dont here  so I never use icedtea  because most of the java application I have or my clients have require sun java
[19:12] <spackler> Does anyone have a hybrid graphics laptop that uses ATI/ATI rather than ATI/Intel?
[19:12] <coz_> OpenBravo being one in question
[19:12] <coolroot> erUSUL: screenlets is ok but problem is that they got no good sysinfo applets :(
[19:12] <searchfgold> wessel:You'll wind up first installing OpedJDK java packages, then going into firefox and running an applet, which will trigger a window which downloads a plugin for firefox that make OpenJDK usable.
[19:12] <erUSUL> coolroot: then i dunno
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> conky is so much fun.
[19:12] <searchfgold> wessel:It doesn't matter what java you use.
[19:13] <wessel> ah good thats what I thought also, so I won't do what coz_ suggested and removing icedtea package
[19:13] <coz_> searchfgold,  well... try OpenBravo .. if you get that running with icedtead let me know :)
[19:14] <wessel> Dr_Willis, ubuntu-restricted-extras does this give me x64 java?
[19:14] <wessel> it probably does right?
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  no idea. Ive never had to worry about the # of bits java uses..
[19:15] <searchfgold> wessel: Doen't it give you sun java?
[19:15]  * Dr_Willis is not sure how java handles the bit's
[19:15] <FloridaGuy> just installed ubuntu 10.04...hardware drivers ( jockey ) is not showing nvidia
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> the ubuntu-restricte-extras installs the icedtea java now.
[19:15] <PerditaLupo> man ... okay i have ubuntu 10.04 loaded up and rarin to go.   it's good, i like it .... but i am stuck .... need something neat to do .... or at least .... pimp my ubuntu ?
[19:15] <wessel> can I have both?
[19:16] <PerditaLupo> ? anybody?
[19:16] <wessel> I'll just install this ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:16] <wessel> and worry about getting x64 bit run time later
[19:16] <searchfgold> FloridaGuy:    have you tried sudo apt-get instal update? usually you have to get proprietary drivers for nVidia.
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm | PerditaLupo
[19:16] <wessel> Dr_Willis, if you have much ram in your PC you should worry about the # of bits java uses
[19:17] <PerditaLupo> Dr_Willis,    thanks   :)
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  if java gets to be where its using 4+GB of ram on my system.. i have to wonder what its doibng...
[19:17] <wessel> else Java can only use 2GB of ram
[19:17] <wessel> really?
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> biggest java app i run is 'FreeCol'
[19:17] <wessel> My java goes up to 24GB all the time xD
[19:17] <wessel> and then crashes with out of memory
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> other then that. i cant even think of any other java apps i use.
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> Oh yea.. 'WebCamStudio' has a java front end.
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> both those work with icedtea
[19:18] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  that;s good news :)
[19:18] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  my experience with other java apps have been not so easy with icedtea though
[19:19] <PerditaLupo> cool got it installed .... gonna check it out .... thanks again Dr_Willis
[19:19] <FloridaGuy> searchfgold, no i havent...but in the past jockey has had my drivers right there...waiting.....does jockey use "python-gconf....i just noticed a crash report for that saying sorry python-gconf 2.28.0-1ubuntu1" faild to install or upgrade
[19:19] <wessel> Can I add my "task bar" into my other "panel" with applications places system ?
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  right click, add to panel, drag one over..
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  tweak them all you want.. if you want to reset back to defaults...
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[19:20] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis: "xbonesx: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java. For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases."
[19:20] <neriukas> dr_willis are you still here? :D
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  yes.. I know how to Install java. :)
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> neriukas:  if i say no.. what will you do? :)
[19:20] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis: i followed this and there are a bunch to choose from which one would i want
[19:21] <isolat3dsh33p> Dr_Willis, can WebcamStudio record videos from my webcam?
[19:21] <FloridaGuy> sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:21] <erUSUL> !info cheese | isolat3dsh33p
[19:21] <FloridaGuy> wrong spot
[19:21] <FloridaGuy> lol
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> isolat3dsh33p:  I think it can.
[19:21] <searchfgold> FloridaGuy: I nthink alot of stuff uses python-gconf...
[19:21] <xbonesx> -bin, -jre, -source, -client etc... ???
[19:21] <neriukas> dr_willis you are good men you help for all ;D
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> isolat3dsh33p:  its more of a 'webcam  enhancer'
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> isolat3dsh33p:  you could use vlc to record from yoru webcam also
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  i install ubuntu-restricted-extras  and let it pull in the right jre.
[19:22] <isolat3dsh33p> erUSUL, my cheese can't record video. Even if it can, there'll be a lot of frame missing. ;(
[19:22] <searchfgold> FloridaGuy: You said you have a fresh install. Did you do all the upgrades you usually get along with a new install of ubunut?
[19:22] <searchfgold> FloridaGuy: *ubuntu
[19:23] <FloridaGuy> searchfgold, ok.....i tryed to install it..but it said its already installed....so as soon as apt-get upgrade is done..ill open package manager...and do a reinstall of it from there
[19:23] <isolat3dsh33p> Dr_Willis, I never tried that. D:
[19:24] <wessel> Why is empathy installed by default?
[19:24] <searchfgold> FloridaGuy: Do you need me to fix the . button on your keyboard?
[19:24] <wessel> it seems such terrible client
[19:24] <FloridaGuy> searchfgold, im doing sudo apt-get upgrade right now...plus i used the netinstall iso
[19:24] <FloridaGuy> searchfgold, witch button
[19:24] <searchfgold> FloridaGuy: Okay.
[19:24] <annon> hi. I just installed 10.04.1 LTS with full disk encryption, but every time it boots up my monitor says "video mode not supported" before I can even enter the password to unlock /. what can I do about it? it has to be a setting in /boot since this is the only partition not encrypted at this point.
[19:24] <FloridaGuy> lol
[19:24] <experiMENTAL> hi, monitor detection problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1576526
[19:25] <isolat3dsh33p> wessel, haha, second that.
[19:25] <IsmAvatar> if I see a string (e.g. terminal output, or on a webpage) with a character that shows up as a block with the numbers 00 and 91 on each row, what do those numbers mean?
[19:25] <area51pilot> what is the 10.10 channel?
[19:26] <trism> area51pilot: #ubuntu+1
[19:26] <wessel> can I make [winkey + D] show my desktop?
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> IsmAvatar:  proberly some unicode characters that you dont have the proper fonts for.
[19:26] <area51pilot> trism: thx  :D
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  with compiz and its settings.. (install ccsm) you proberly can.
[19:26] <searchfgold> FloridaGuy: Sorry? which button?
[19:27] <IsmAvatar> Dr_Willis: actually more like it's in the wrong encoding. I already know what it's supposed to look like, I'm just curious what the numbers mean.
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  i was thinking there was allready a keycombo for that however
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> IsmAvatar:  i would guess the hex/dec code of the character.
[19:27] <FloridaGuy> searchfgold, searchfgold> FloridaGuy: Do you need me to fix the . button on your keyboard?
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> well goodnight all.
[19:28] <searchfgold> FloridayGuy: Oh, never mind. That was a bad joke
[19:29] <FloridaGuy> searchfgold, i know...thats why i was asking witch button
[19:29] <area51pilot> which
[19:29] <area51pilot> :P
[19:29] <area51pilot> boo!
[19:30] <searchfgold> FloridaGuy:         nvm -.-
[19:31] <xbonesx> isnt their a way that when you typeing something that you know is in the directory it will do like an auto complete in the line your typing???
[19:32] <xbonesx> and go through the possibles, i know it does cuz i used it in the terminal on my palm pre
[19:33] <annon> hi. I just installed 10.04.1 LTS with full disk encryption, but every time it boots up my monitor says "video mode not supported" before I can even enter the password to unlock /. what can I do about it? it has to be a setting in /boot since this is the only partition not encrypted at this point.
[19:33] <ash4n> what does ubuntu@ubuntu in the terminal mean? How to rename it?
[19:33] <TELL0> hello
[19:34] <An_Ony_Moose> ash4n, are you running a liveCD?
[19:34] <incidence> ash4n: Your username at hostname (computername)
[19:34] <TELL0> an installation with the ubuntu minimal cd what's going to install?
[19:34] <ash4n> not a live cd, installed using wubi
[19:36] <JPeterson> can I see what packages are included with ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso?
[19:36] <JPeterson> I need a boot cd with gparted
[19:36] <JPeterson> or a partition manager that can handle ntfs too
[19:36] <NessQuick> D: Assistance please. I can't get my internet up and running again.
[19:37] <NessQuick> It won't respond to any connection changes I do. At least none that don't require the shell.
[19:37] <neriukas> jpeterson download recovery console (7MB )
[19:38] <area51pilot> JPeterson: Try Knoppix
[19:38] <Hald> Any known problem with updating 9.10 to 10.4?
[19:39] <xbonesx> whats the button for auto complete in the command line when typing a file name or location?
[19:40] <xbonesx> auto-fill for say, completes the line based on whats in the directory
[19:40] <Hald> tab
[19:41] <maedox> Hald, for me it went smooth on two computers. Make a backup (tar or rsync is good) and you're safe.
[19:41] <ash4n> what is the keyboard shortcut for Places menu?
[19:41] <xbonesx> Hald: that doesnt actually auto fill the rest of you command line tho, it just displays a list of possible, i want it to show me on the fly
[19:42] <Hald> plaves menu? You mean alt+F1 ash4n?
[19:42] <abdelateef> ?
[19:42] <Nicholaspugh91> Hello?
[19:42] <Hald> xbonesx: well, it autofills when there is only one choise
[19:42] <ash4n> yes Hald: but it is for apps, i need for places?
[19:43] <maedox> click right arrow
[19:43] <abdelateef> hello
[19:43] <xbonesx> ah so if i type to the point to where there is no other possible choice, got ya
[19:43] <maedox> or type / when on the desktop
[19:43] <Hald> ash4n: oh, ok. I never used it. I do alt+f1 and "right arrow"
[19:43] <Nicholaspugh91> I'm having a problem with Firefox, It is not giving any sound. I've upgraded to the latest version of Adobe Flash and still no sound. Running Ubuntu 10.04 with firefox 3.6 anyone able to help?
[19:44] <JPeterson> so is gparted included with ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso?
[19:44] <matza> how is going
[19:44] <area51pilot> JPeterson; yes
[19:45] <JPeterson> area51pilot: ok, thanks
[19:45] <area51pilot> JPeterson: No Prob
[19:45] <maedox> JPeterson, yes, in the live session, but must be installed after install of OS.
[19:45] <Hald> xbonesx: Yes Tab autofills or show possible "spellings" for apps, files and locations. Even works with stuffs like '*.txt'
[19:46] <JPeterson> maedox: how does that work? does it it install things to ram?
[19:46] <JPeterson> it needs ntfsprogs too
[19:46] <evilbug> can pidgin do a/v?
[19:47] <maedox> JPeterson, the live session? yes, it only runs from memory and disc/usb without using your hard drive. changes are lost on reboot, but you can install packages like normal.
[19:47] <firewalker22> greeting oh great ubuntu sages, I have traveled far and journeyed long in a quest to have my my ubuntu  woes resolved!
[19:47] <JPeterson> maedox: ok, thanks
[19:47] <JPeterson> I'll install gparted and ntfsprogs then
[19:47] <rrittenhouse_> annon, when are you getting the message "video not supported" ?
[19:48] <JPeterson> maedox: if I boot from a usb stick, can it mount a partition on the usb stick to install to?
[19:48] <firewalker22> I am setting up a lamp server with a static IP, the lamp server works fine, but firefox will no longer access the interwebs, nor can I ping www.yahoo.com.............helpz plse
[19:48] <ash4n> how to install hibernate framework?
[19:48] <maedox> JPeterson, What I meant is gparted is already installed in the live session. don't know about nftsprogs.
[19:48] <area51pilot> what is syntax to run a prog from terminal?
[19:48] <NessQuick> Issues with internet connection following a hibernation. Internet connection refuses to cooperate and I know it isn't hardware related. Any advice?
[19:49] <maedox> JPeterson, make a persisting usb stick instead.
[19:49] <area51pilot> Jpeterson: gparted is on the live and HD install
[19:49] <area51pilot> JPeterson: and yes ... USB persistent is a good setup
[19:49] <JPeterson> maedox: ok
[19:49] <JPeterson> area51pilot: ok
[19:50] <annon> rrittenhouse_: right after grub loads the kernel, but before / is accessed.
[19:50] <ash4n> how to install hibernate framework on ubuntu?
[19:50] <firewalker22> I am setting up a lamp server with a static IP, the lamp server works fine, but firefox will no longer access the interwebs, nor can I ping www.yahoo.com.............helpz plse     <-----redux
[19:50] <maedox> JPeterson, boot it with the cd and then use the Startup Disc Creator to make a usb bootstick and choose to make room for saving settings/data.
[19:51] <maedox> firewalker22, did you set a DNS server?
[19:52] <maedox> firewalker22, what does your /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces look like?
[19:52] <maedox> firewalker22, pastebin please.
[19:52] <firewalker22> I put the router IP as the DNS server
[19:52] <xfreakk> @everyone : Hi :)
[19:52] <maedox> xfreakk, Hi.
[19:53] <g0bl1n> hi, how can I force proprietary HW drivers to be detected ?
[19:53] <maedox> firewalker22, alright, try it with 8.8.8.8 or 208.67.222.222
[19:53] <delinquentme> ubuntu RAID manager??
[19:53] <delinquentme> for a hardware raid
[19:53] <firewalker22> k, ty maedox will try
[19:53] <JPeterson> maedox: thanks
[19:53] <ash4n> how to compile java program, I written code in scite editor?
[19:53] <rrittenhouse_> annon, Did the card ever work in Ubuntu?
[19:54] <coz_> ash4n,  which applicatoin is this  do you have link?
[19:54] <maedox> firewalker22, cool. just to rule out your router.
[19:54] <Geoffrey2> every time my computer starts up, .xsession-errors tells me my preference files are already in use, and I might be logged in from another computer...i'm not
[19:55] <coz_> ash4n,  nevermind ...too many channels opened  sorry
[19:55] <g0bl1n> funny, for Maverick live USB to boot, I need to type help in the prompt...
[19:55] <NessQuick> Internet won't hook back up again after a hibernation shutdown. Tried most programs to fix this but nothing worked. Wondering if its a driver issue. Advice?
[19:55] <annon> rrittenhouse_: yes, it worked perfectly with versions below 10.04.1
[19:55] <firewalker22> lol, I am a dufus, a small typo, I was off by one digit...ty for the info maedox, you pointed me right to my error.
[19:55] <maedox> firewalker22, great :D
[19:56] <firewalker22> ty again :-)
[19:56] <ash4n> coz_ its most popular editor on sf
[19:56] <nkn> anyone know the cause of "no init found try passing init = bootarg" ?
[19:57] <Geoffrey2> makes me think the files aren't being closed properly when the computer shuts down....
[19:57] <g0bl1n> is there any room for Maverick ?
[19:58] <rrittenhouse_> annon, are you using the HDMI output on it?
[19:58] <Cybolic> Does anyone know how to use markup in an appindicator menu?
[19:58] <ubuntufan> I was using a portable USB HDD and then I put it in my laptop and installed Ubuntu on it. It's now saying it has hundreds of reallocated sectors.
[19:58] <erUSUL> nkn: 1) grub is missconfigured and is passing the wrong partition to the kernel 2) the correct partition is passed but it is messed/corrupted and init dissapeared somehow
[19:58] <Calinou>  
[19:59] <Calinou> oops.
[19:59] <wessel> how can I create a shortcut to downloads on my desktop?
[19:59] <Cybolic> wessel, middle-click-drag the downloads folder to your desktop and select link.
[19:59] <nkn> erUSUL thank you
[20:00] <Cybolic> wessel, ...or hold down shift+ctrl while dragging.
[20:01] <Cybolic> wessel, or if you want to get fancy run: ln -s ~/Downloads ~/Desktop/Downloads
[20:02] <annon> rrittenhouse_: no, VGA.
[20:04] <erUSUL> NessQuick: how do you connect to internet?
[20:04] <derechtejohannes> hi, my PC crashes at boot up, it seems to be a xorg problem: http://pastebin.com/0z7t73SE but I dont know what causes the problem
[20:04] <NessQuick> I'm using the LiveCD.
[20:04] <NessQuick> Which is actually a USB.
[20:04] <NessQuick> Right now it works with the wired connection
[20:05] <erUSUL> NessQuick: what is giving problems? wifi connection?
[20:05] <CoSmO> Hello All:  I used to use Ubuntu 9.04c for installation on customers machines.  A perfect option was the OEM Installation.  I have just started to use 10 but during the installation I do not see an option for OEM installation.  Any suggestions or has this been removed in 10?
[20:05] <NessQuick> No, the wired connection. It's a software issue. It doesn't work in my installed version of Ubuntu. Only the LiveCD version works with the wired connection.
[20:06] <erUSUL> CoSmO: looks like it is only aviable in the alternate cd
[20:06] <erUSUL> !alternate | CoSmO
[20:06] <rrittenhouse_> annon, what CD did you use to install it? Alt or desktop? just curious if it loaded if you used Desktop
[20:06] <NessQuick> Both can access wireless as far as I know but I don't have any wireless routers I can connect to since there are no public ones available. Still, it shows them as options. The issue is the wired connection on my normal installed version of Ubuntu.
[20:07] <Geoffrey2> root problem here is gconf-sanity-check-2 still has a coronary every time the computer starts...trying to figure out how to finally fix it
[20:07] <CoSmO> Ok, thanks for the fast answer.. off I go to get it
[20:07] <erUSUL> NessQuick: what nic is this?
[20:07] <annon> rrittenhouse_: alternate with full disk encryption.
[20:08] <NessQuick> Ah... you mean what's the hardware spec? I'm not sure. Is there a way to check it via diagnostics?
[20:08] <bandeira> hi there.. i'm tryin to network two computers.. one is server (running on centOS) and the client is ubuntu 10.04. when i try to mount the past which i shared on my nfs-server, it shows me this message: "client:~$ showmount -e 192.168.0.139 | clnt_create: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to receive". what should it be?
[20:08] <sjm> NessQuick, what does the line for the nic say from "lspci"
[20:09] <sjm> NessQuick, or "lspci -v"
[20:09] <rrittenhouse_> annon, 32bit or 64bit?
[20:09] <erUSUL> bandeira: firewall blocking portmapper? no portmapper running?
[20:09] <nouitfvf[afk]> sorry
[20:09] <erUSUL> !nfs
[20:09] <NessQuick> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03) (Is this what I'm looking for?)
[20:10] <janemann_> is there any other source for the (lucid) patches than those given in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2010/CVE-2010-3081.html ?? I can't download them with my account :-(
[20:10] <NessQuick> There's also "Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5300 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection"
[20:10] <n0a1ias> what do i need to install to make my 32 bit ubuntu 64?
[20:10] <erUSUL> n0a1ias: you have to reinstall
[20:11] <n0a1ias> erUSUL, no, theres a kernal upgrade
[20:11] <IdleOne> !PAE
[20:12] <erUSUL> NessQuick: try loading the module by hand
[20:12] <ectospasm> n0a1ias: yeah, but that won't upgrade all the libs
[20:12] <NessQuick> Alright. How is that done?
[20:12] <n0a1ias> thanks IdleOne
[20:12] <erUSUL> NessQuick: « sudo modprobe e1000e »
[20:12] <n0a1ias> what?
[20:12] <erUSUL> n0a1ias: pae kernel is still 32 bits
[20:12] <IdleOne> n0a1ias: that won't upgrade from 32bit to 64bit.
[20:13] <n0a1ias> but its better than the original
[20:13] <NessQuick> erUSUL: I'll try that out. Thank you. Will take a small while to check since it requires switching to my other version of Ubuntu, then back if it fails.
[20:13] <rrittenhouse_> annon, 32bit or 64bit?
[20:13] <erUSUL> NessQuick: i understand
[20:14] <erUSUL> n0a1ias: it allows you access all ram but it is not "better" ( can be slower at some things )
[20:14] <annon> rrittenhouse_: 64
[20:14] <coolroot> is there any link on getting good screenlets for sysinfo?
[20:14] <karlo> I can't open any file on ubuntu one.. any help (I was opening files last days..)
[20:14] <erUSUL> !ubuntuone | karlo
[20:15] <flyingdonkey> !list
[20:15] <rjhall> hi.  When i receive an email with a .wav attachment in thunderbird (from ubu 10.04) it offers to open in "movie player" that doesn't seem to exist.  How do i associate that type with e.g. rhythmbox instead?
[20:15] <erUSUL> rjhall: movie player is totem and it should be installed by default
[20:17] <rjhall> erUSUL: applciations->sound and video doesn't show totem. It does show "movie player","pitivi", "rhytmplayer","sound recorder"
[20:17] <erUSUL> rjhall: and can you launch movie player from that menu ?
[20:17] <rjhall> erUSUL: ah - but totem does start from the commandline
[20:17] <rjhall> erUSUL: (and it's called "movie player" in the title bar)
[20:18] <erUSUL> rjhall: and Help>About ?
[20:18] <rjhall> hm - interestingly, thunderbird -> preferences->attachments shows no rows in the content_type/Action list
[20:19] <mernilio> give us ur content and i'll give you mine
[20:19] <tacomaster> i was wondering if there was a way to make virtualbox-ose to use the network card but not through the host os i want it to be the one connecting is that possible?
[20:19] <hrnt> hmm, does anybody know how many files you can put in the same directory in ext3fs before stuff starts to break down?
[20:20] <erUSUL> tacomaster: ask in #vbox. afaik it is possible via bridgin
[20:20] <kinkerton> why wouldn't a reinstall of apache2 install the conf files to /etc/apache2?
[20:20] <kinkerton> I tried a purge, clean and reinstall, but that also didn't work
[20:20] <erUSUL> hrnt: many; i am not sure if it will break dwon but surely things get slower
[20:20] <kinkerton> (looking to do a fresh install)
[20:21] <erUSUL> kinkerton: becouse the files belong to apache2-common afaik
[20:21] <rrittenhouse_> annon, you could try and ctrl+alt+f1 and see if it drops to a terminal that you can see. Have you tried that?
[20:22] <kinkerton> erUSUL: so uninstall common and reinstall?
[20:22] <erUSUL> kinkerton: purge
[20:22] <annon> rrittenhouse_: already tried that, doesn't work
[20:22] <hrnt> erUSUL: ok, i guess i should benchmark it some day
[20:22] <annon> rrittenhouse_: / isn't accessible.
[20:22] <erUSUL> kinkerton: remove does not remove the conf files. only purge does
[20:22] <annon> rrittenhouse_: so it cannot log in.
[20:23] <wessel> how come youtube suddenly works out of the box, I remember having to install stuff to run flash movies, ubuntu is great :P
[20:23] <rrittenhouse_> annon, I can't find anything on it for Ubuntu 10.04. I'd file a bug.
[20:23] <rrittenhouse_> with xorg
[20:23] <kinkerton> erUSUL: cool, ty
[20:23] <annon> rrittenhouse_: it can't be an xorg problem
[20:23] <erUSUL> kinkerton: no problem
[20:24] <karlo> I can't open any file on ubuntu one.. (I say this on #ubuntuone but everybody sleeping xD).. I was opening files without problems last days..
[20:24] <annon2> rrittenhouse_: sorry, got disconnected
[20:25] <BaseBallBoy> rawr
[20:26] <rrittenhouse_> annon2, I guess i'm not understanding what's going on. I'm relatively new at this troubleshooting online thing. :D I would still file a bug but honesly im not sure what to file it under.
[20:26] <annon2> rrittenhouse_: anyway, many many thanks for trying to help :)
[20:26] <rrittenhouse_> annon, sorry I couldn't be of more help.
[20:26] <annon2> rrittenhouse_: it's ok :)
[20:27] <annon2> rrittenhouse_: I'll just ask the channel again some time later.
[20:27] <Katsumi32> annon2 what is the problem ?
[20:27] <wessel> hello, how can I check if I have the following dependencies?
[20:28] <wessel>     *  Hardware accelerated OpenGL (usually provided by your distro).       * GLUT 3.7.      * Or FreeGlut (better for full screen support than GLUT).
[20:28] <wessel>     * PLIB 1.8.5 version.       * OpenAL.       * libpng and zlib (usually provided by your distro).
[20:28] <annon2> Katsumi32: I just installed 10.04.1 LTS with full disk encryption, but every time it boots up my monitor says "video mode not supported" before I can even enter the password to unlock /.  it has to be a setting in /boot since this is the only partition not encrypted at this point.
[20:28] <annon2> Katsumi32: even recovery mode yields the same problem.
[20:29] <wessel> this is the error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lalut
[20:29] <wessel> g++ gennmtab.o -L/home/wessel/TORCS/export/lib  -L/usr/lib -lalut -L/usr/lib  -lplibssgaux -lplibssg -lplibsm -lplibsl -lplibsg -lplibul -lglut -lGLU -lGL -lpng -lz -ldl -lopenal -lXrandr -lXrender -lXxf86vm -lXmu -lXi -lXt -lSM -lICE -lXext -lX11 -lm   -o gennmtab
[20:29] <wessel> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lalut
[20:30] <annon2> Katsumi32: I can (blindly) enter the password and I hear my hard disk working, but the monitor problem stays.
[20:30] <geoffmcc> wessel: pastebin makes easier to read errors and does not fill the channel
[20:31] <Katsumi32> annon2, did you try when you boot drop to command prompt and type sudo fixvesa or sudo fix-vesa ? than it will boot up in useless mode but will let you to install propper drivers for your card
[20:31] <Katsumi32> annon2, what graphic card do you have ?
[20:31] <wessel> errors: http://pastebin.com/XRQCRDHS
[20:32] <annon2> Katsumi32: Nvidia GT 220. what do you mean by "drop to command prompt"? if you're talking about recovery mode, doesn't work, either. if you're talking about the grub command prompt, haven't tried that.
[20:33] <geoffmcc>  wessel: have u tried running any of those deps threw aptitude install?
[20:33] <Katsumi32> annon2, boot in recovery mode than select terminal than type the command i showed to you it helped me it should help you
[20:33] <rrittenhouse_> Katsumi32, so would it actually be a bug with Ubuntu 10.04 or ?
[20:33] <annon2> Katsumi32: I would like to, but recovery mode does not work, either.
[20:34] <rrittenhouse_> i'm curious how this would be reported
[20:34] <annon2> Katsumi32: the monitor just blanks
[20:34] <Katsumi32> annon2, i just dont remeber ot was either sudo fixvesa or sudo fix-vesa
[20:34] <aaronw> Friends, I am in a Karmic -> Lucid upgrade jam.  During the upgrade I ran into this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/mountall/+bug/559582 -- but when I went to try the workaround, I ran into THIS bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tar/+bug/539814
[20:34] <root_> fff
[20:34] <wessel> geoffmcc, what? it did not tell me to install
[20:35] <aaronw> I need to install a patched tar to install mountall, but i need a patched tar to install a patched tar!  The mind boggles.
[20:35] <aaronw> And I'm not sure what to do.
[20:35] <Katsumi32> annon2, recovery mode than small window will pop up there you will have optins like download updates or fix broken packages or terminal
[20:35] <babtux> hi
[20:35] <Katsumi32> annon2, it does work if you can see login screen than it will work cuz recovery mode doesnt use graphic just try it
[20:35] <annon2> Katsumi32: I know, but it does NOT work. it's like this: I choose "recovery mode", then I see a few lines of text, then the monitor says "mode not supported" and I'm stuck.
[20:36] <Katsumi32> annon2, are you 5 years old? so it drops you to command line right ? yea so type tthe thing i told you than type sudo reboot and start normally
[20:36] <rrittenhouse_> annon2, have you tried it blindly?
[20:36] <wessel> E: Couldn't find package alut
[20:36] <geoffmcc> wessel: well at the bottom it lists dependancies, i was suggesting to see if they are availible in repo
[20:36] <babtux> i have a problem i want know where is my grub setup? when i type find /boot/grub/stage x  this error appear Error 15: File not found   why?
[20:36] <wessel> it needs alut, but E: Couldn't find package alut
[20:37] <annon2> Katsumi32: please refrain from getting personal. I should ask the same question since you obviously cannot read what I'm typing.
[20:37] <annon2> rrittenhouse_: yes.
[20:37] <wessel> sudo apt-get install openAl
[20:37] <wessel>  same error
[20:37] <rrittenhouse_> annon2, try what hes telling you to blindly and see what happens
[20:38] <Verminator> babtux, ubuntu now uses grub2, check the grub2 website out.  In the meantime I'll try finding where I recently made a mod to mine
[20:38] <Katsumi32> annon2, do you understand ? when you restart you see grub than u select whatever you want to it will start boot and it stops saying screens not found than it end and you still are able to type right? so type what i told you
[20:38] <rodr1go> hello all, I installed ubuntu lucid 10.4.1 and I've noticed that ubuntu has mounted my ntfs partition with no permission to write the only permissions available is create and delete so I am wondering where can I change that options to allow me to read write and execute for example using ntfs-3g?
[20:38] <Katsumi32> annon2, do you understand now?
[20:39] <Katsumi32> i had the same exactly issue
[20:39] <babtux> Verminator: is your means that i have to install grub2 instead of grub?
[20:39] <rrittenhouse_> Katsumi32, Was there a bug filed about it (that you know of) ?
[20:39] <annon2> Katsumi32: how would I be able to select the command prompt if I don't know at which position it is in the list? I know it's not the first one.
[20:39] <annon2> Katsumi32: I have to do it blindly.
[20:40] <Verminator> babtux, no, ubuntu has officially switched to grub2.  I think it happened in one of the 9.x releases.
[20:40] <Katsumi32> annon2,  when you reboot and you start it again you see bios screen than grub right ?
[20:41] <Katsumi32> rrittenhouse_, i dont think so
[20:41] <annon2> Katsumi32: yes. RIGHT. then I select recovery mode. then I see text for maybe HALF A SECOND. THEN BLANK. I don't see a window, nor a command prompt, NOTHING. what's so hard to understand?
[20:41] <wessel> what apt package will install /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lplibssgaux ?
[20:41] <candiru> hey..does anyone know xchat?
[20:41] <babtux> Verminator: i use ubuntu 10.4 now what do i have to do i want understand where is my grub installed?
[20:42] <Katsumi32> annon2 so the screen just freeze?
[20:42] <rodr1go> does anyone know where can i find the script that mount drivers altomatically on ubuntu?
[20:42] <Katsumi32> annon2, and youre not even able to type anything ?
[20:42] <erUSUL> !ntfs | rodr1go
[20:42] <palhmbs> candiru, what you need to do in xchat?
[20:42] <rodr1go> !NTFS-3g
[20:43] <Verminator> babtux, 10.04 definitly uses grub2.  I updated my grub2 about a month or 2 agon on my laptop, but I cant access it right now, trying to find some info for you, wait
[20:43] <candiru> ok my question is this: how do i stop xchat from coming here every time it starts up?
[20:43] <annon2> Katsumi32: It does not freeze, but the monitor ITSELF says "mode not supported"! Not Ubuntu, but the monitor. But you finally got the part that I cannot type anything.
[20:43] <palhmbs> candiru, look at the Network list..
[20:44] <candiru> the autoconnect option is not checked..in fact, i deleted freenode from the server list..
[20:45] <Verminator>  babtux, check this out  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[20:45] <babtux> Verminator: thx
[20:45] <daniele> ciao
[20:45] <palhmbs> candiru, favorite channels
[20:45] <Verminator> babtux, np
[20:45] <daniele> dvx
[20:45] <coolroot> erUSUL: dude thanx again got to go...cheers
[20:46] <erUSUL> coolroot: no problem
[20:46] <daniele> LISTA
[20:46] <Verminator> babtux, if i remember correctly, it was rather easy to change a menu option
[20:46] <Katsumi32> annon2, normally when mode not supported it will let you type i see it first time cuz that youre saying is that after grub u see info mode not supported and your screen froze and youre not able to type anything u said u have gt 220 i think this card should work easy i would advice you to make new bottable usb or cd using lili http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/faq-general/98-can-i-use-lili-to-create-a-multi-boot-live-usb-.html
[20:46] <dewman> is there a channel for networking hardware?
[20:46] <dewman> IE switches routers etc?
[20:47] <erUSUL> dewman: #networking exist
[20:47] <sandertje> hello
[20:47] <Gago> Hello
[20:47] <Katsumi32> rrittenhouse_, it isnt bug really
[20:47] <erUSUL> !hi
[20:47] <dewman> erUSUL, danka
[20:47] <daniele> AIUTO
[20:47] <rrittenhouse_> Katsumi32, but should one be filed or no?
[20:48] <Gago> Vad gör ni här?
[20:48] <wessel> how do I fix /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXrandr
[20:48] <wessel>  ?
[20:48] <daniele> HO BISOGNO DI AIUTO PERFAVORE
[20:48] <TELL0> daniele: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[20:48] <wessel> I already did wessel@wegumar7 ~/torcs $ sudo apt-get install lxrandr
[20:48] <wessel> let me restart pc
[20:49] <sandertje> I'm trying to record both webcam and mic simultaneously with vlc (since cheese only records video and audacity only records sound). By going to "open capture device" and putting in "video device: /dev/video0" and "audio device: plughw:0,0"  I do not get errors, but I still cannot hear myself.
[20:49] <annon2> Katsumi32, rrittenhouse_: the thing I don't understand is, this problem comes up in recovery mode. I mean recovery mode is just *text*. I already switched monitors, same problem.
[20:49] <experiMENTAL> hi, monitor detection problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1576526
[20:49] <amanita_> Anyone using SSD drive here?
[20:49] <dhorner_mb> I'm not sure what my trouble is here.  I'm trying to load 10.04 server amd64, and when I boot, the monitor turns off.
[20:49] <Katsumi32> no rrittenhouse_  thinks like that can happen and his problem is very unusual he says he cant type any commands hes screen freeze etc he should try to remake live cd or usb
[20:49] <sandertje> so how to get vlc to record my mic?
[20:50] <babob> hello all
[20:50] <annon2> rrittenhouse_: I said twice that my screen doesn't freeze. somehow he (?) cannot read.
[20:50] <geoffmcc> dhorner_mb: what u running it on?
[20:50] <dhorner_mb> I had the same issue with the 10.04 desktop amd64 (monitor turning off), in fact, the installer wouldn't work using the desktop.  using server, the installer worked, but now booting the OS gives me a monitor off problem too.
[20:50] <geoffmcc> dhorner_mb: i using amd64 10.04 on hp pav
[20:50] <Katsumi32> annon2, that what i told you it shouldnt freeze cuz in recovery u use only commands remake your usb or cd using lili than install it again
[20:51] <dhorner_mb> I've got an old hp....
[20:51] <dhorner_mb> looking for specs.
[20:51] <daniele_> CIAO
[20:51] <daniele_> #AIUTO
[20:51] <dhorner_mb> ya I'm not sure what the issue is, I've never had issues with the monitor before.  it is like it went to sleep and doesn't turn back on.
[20:51] <Kane_Hart_2> hey anyone know anything about ram disk or something like that. I'm running a application that reads and writes so much data so fast that its really crazy on a normal sata let alone even if I were to get a raptor drive as we expand. The good news is it's like 100,000 files but only at like 300mb.. So someone said use ram as a disk storage. The downside is u lose it if u lose power. Good news
[20:51] <Kane_Hart_2> I backup hourly. So could I get more info if this is good or bad idea?
[20:51] <daniele_> AIUTO
[20:52] <babob> ok im a noob, i just installed ubuntu yesterday
[20:52] <Katsumi32> annon2, are you still here ? can you tell me what cpu have you got and the link you got your ubuntu from ?
[20:52] <daniele_> #CIAO A TUTTI  HO BISOGNO DI AIUTO
[20:52] <babob> im trying to install second life its a game I play
[20:52] <erUSUL> Kane_Hart_2: try it and see? but i dunno how the backups will help iof the data never hits any disk
[20:52] <babob> i get it unpacked and go to install it
[20:52] <erUSUL> !it | daniele_
[20:52] <babob> but it tells me im not an authorized user or something
[20:53] <babob> can someone help me with this problem
[20:53] <erUSUL> Kane_Hart_2: you can try tmpfs or maybe a ramdisk formatted with a normal fs
[20:53] <Kane_Hart_2> can this all be done in ubuntu?
[20:53] <ViN86> babob: use sudo before the install cmd
[20:53] <rrittenhouse_> Katsumi32, Can't you run a CD test on the alt cd? Maybe you should try that annon2
[20:53] <babob> yup
[20:53] <Kane_Hart_2> I don't need like special hardware or anything right?
[20:53] <daniele_> #UBUNTU-IT
[20:53] <ViN86> babob: is it executable?
[20:54] <babob> yup
[20:54] <tripelb> I've an older Dell PC. Windows will install. 3 different linux liveCD's all fail. What The (no) Fun?
[20:54] <ViN86> and whats the error you get?
[20:54] <babob> i get the question if I want to install it and I say yes
[20:54] <babob> but right above that is in red sayin it can only install it in my home folder
[20:54] <ViN86> ok
[20:54] <sjefen6> How do I change session type, when logging in without requiering a password?
[20:55] <Katsumi32> rrittenhouse_, maybe he downloaded 64 and his cpu doesnt support it maybe he has bad live cd(some data missing at burning it ) etc the best is to do everything again
[20:55] <geoffmcc> tripelb: i def been there b4. maybe a usb install?
[20:55] <ViN86> babob, so you installed it in your home directory?
[20:55] <kalle_> use ramdisk and add a ups
[20:55] <rrittenhouse_> Katsumi32, true but won't the CD test check the media and verify or is that not reliable?
[20:55] <babob> yes but not i cant find it in there
[20:55] <Kane_Hart_2> erUSUL what would be easier to setup ramdisk or tmpfs your the only one whos ever talked to me about this :)
[20:56] <Katsumi32> rrittenhouse_,  im not sure if you can trust it 100%
[20:56] <babob> thank you so much for helping me by the way
[20:57] <erUSUL> Kane_Hart_2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tmpfs
[20:57] <rrittenhouse_> annon2, are you 100% sure that your proc is 64bit?
[20:57] <ViN86> babob: have you looked through the directories?
[20:57] <ViN86> babob, you can try sudo updatedb
[20:57] <ViN86> babob, then use locate file_name
[20:58] <babob> yes I have looked
[20:58] <babob> but it just isnt there
[20:58] <babob> i thought i was going insane
[20:58] <babob> lol
[20:58] <ViN86> babob,  it creates a directory called .secondlife
[20:58] <ViN86> use ls -al to see hidden directories
[20:58] <babob> then it didnt install cause its not in there
[20:58] <ViN86> cd ~
[20:58] <ViN86> ls -al | grep secondlife
[20:59] <ViN86> try that
[20:59] <mernilio> why is it so few females here? You know.. it would be nice if you could append your nick with a "_w" so it could be shown". Just an idea..
[20:59] <venik> anybody knows how to get Audacity to record?  It seems to not recognize my sound card, which works just fine...
[20:59] <ViN86> babob, did you install or just extract it?
[20:59] <venik> Ubuntu 10.04
[20:59] <erUSUL> mernilio: does it really matter the gender of who you are talking to?
[20:59] <ViN86> babob, if you extracted it, it's just in the folder you extracted the tar.bz2 file to
[20:59] <erUSUL> Kane_Hart_2: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Ramdisk/ramdisk.html
[21:00] <Katsumi32> mernilio, im here
[21:00] <rrittenhouse_> mernilio, that wouldn't be sexist AT ALL!
[21:00] <venik> IEC958)
[21:00] <drjo> is sun java avaliable on ubuntu?
[21:00] <erUSUL> drjo: yes in partner repo
[21:00] <erUSUL> !partner | drjo
[21:00] <geoffmcc> trying to pull the ladies b4 gentleman card?, lol
[21:00] <P4> Hoi
[21:00] <mernilio> Many of us geeks rely on internet porn.. why is it so.. i know why.. but i will not say it.
[21:00] <DJones> !ot | mernilio
[21:00] <Katsumi32> mernilio, stop it
[21:00] <klh> will ubuntu netbook edition fit on 4G ?
[21:01] <P4> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-wireless-button-working-on-fujitsu-siemens-amilo-li1718.html <=- Is anyone here familar with the problem written in the 1st comment on that site?
[21:01] <DJones> !guidelines > mernilio
[21:01] <mernilio> I'll stop then
[21:01] <chaabane> hi
[21:01] <aeon-ltd> mernilio: uhh, we don't discriminate here, positive or negative. people come here for help, we help them, that is all
[21:01] <FloridaGuy> anyone able to tell whats wrong here......  with nvidia or jockey...    http://img821.imageshack.us/f/screenshotgf.png/
[21:02] <mernilio> I just had some drunken sociologyclay ad hoc thinking here.. ;-)
[21:02] <venik> anybody knows how to get Audacity to record? It seems to not recognize my sound card, which works just fine...My card is EIC958 (audio on motherboard)
[21:02] <Antes> hello anybody knows what happened with Mindforge Network? I can't enable connection
[21:02] <Katsumi32> FloridaGuy, u have got other driver there so your card use another driver something doessnt work?
[21:03] <babob> ok here is what i got when i typed that
[21:03] <babob> drwx------  7 bob  bob   4096 2010-09-17 09:44 .secondlife
[21:03] <babob> drwxr-xr-x 11 bob  bob   4096 2010-09-17 14:19 .secondlife-install
[21:03] <babob> drwxr-xr-x 12 bob  bob   4096 2010-09-17 14:19 .secondlife-install.backup-2010-09-17
[21:03] <FloodBot1> babob: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:03] <babob> oh sorry
[21:03] <babob> :(
[21:03] <mernilio> venik: my favorite soundrecording software. But i used it in another operating system.
[21:04] <FloridaGuy> Katsumi32, at frist jockey wasent detecting anything...then  i opened package manager and choose nvidia current..but i guess it dident get everything
[21:04] <venik> menillo-- that is very helpful
[21:04] <venik> but not to me.. ;-)
[21:04] <LucidGuy> 802.11 question.  Will a laptop with an 802.11n card work with an older 802.11a network?  I have asked this earlier, but struggling to get a straight answer.
[21:04] <mernilio> babob: one another flood and you will rage me with fury!
[21:05] <babob> im only 2 days old so i really am lost
[21:05] <sebbz> LucidGuy, yes.
[21:05] <aeon-ltd> LucidGuy: it should support all protocols before it, so yes
[21:05] <Katsumi32> FloridaGuy, does Nvidia have linux driver for your card ? if so get Nvidia driver im sure it will work better than OS drivers
[21:05] <klh> will ubuntu netbook edition fit oin 4G ?
[21:05] <babob> im sorry i m not trying to make you mad
[21:05] <LucidGuy> are you guys posetive?  One of my Dell vendors seems to say otherwise.
[21:05] <aeon-ltd> klh: google the minimum requirements, or try and push your luck :0
[21:05] <aeon-ltd> :)
[21:05] <aeon-ltd> *:)
[21:05] <LucidGuy> Is this a feature of N .. because I know this is not the case with older legacy protocls.
[21:06] <annon2> rrittenhouse_: already tested, and yes, it's 64 bit.
[21:06] <FloridaGuy> Katsumi32, yes...i been useing the latest drivers....ubuntu's current...really isent current
[21:06] <Katsumi32> FloridaGuy, u didnt answer my question
[21:06] <rrittenhouse_> annon2, have you tried a Desktop cd to see what happens?
[21:06] <Katsumi32> does Nvidia have linux driver for you card ?
[21:07] <Katsumi32> FloridaGuy, did you check up thir website ?
[21:07] <Verminator> I have an AMD64, I was advised before NOT to use the 64bit version of ubuntu yet due to stability issues.  Is this still the case?  What can expect 32 bit vs 64 bit?
[21:07] <firewalker22> quick question for the pros, is there a way to set file permissions for a folder in such a way that all folders and files created within inherit the permissions of the parent folder?
[21:07] <FloridaGuy> Katsumi32, yes they do....thats why i said i been useing the latest drivers
[21:07] <geoffmcc> LucidGuy: not sure if this of help, but my n router does not list a as an option, only b, g are oldest
[21:07] <FloridaGuy> in other distro's
[21:07] <Katsumi32> annon2, my advice use 32 version
[21:07] <tonsofpcs> Verminator: i haven't had any major issues.
[21:07] <madjoe1> is there something like xdebug for Ubuntu?
[21:07] <tonsofpcs> Verminator: i suppose it depends on what you're doing
[21:08] <tonsofpcs> madjoe1: xdebug
[21:08] <sahil> if i want a new user to default to a particular theme and various other settings how would i do that?
[21:08] <Katsumi32> FloridaGuy, and where from did you get the latest driver? from nvidia web ? or did you use synaptic to download it and install it ?
[21:08] <LucidGuy> geoffmcc, Thanks, but modern routers that support N definitely support legacy protocols.  Im trying to figure out if that works the other way .. as in the client.
[21:08] <FloridaGuy> Katsumi32,  i have the driver on my usb stick....so how do i kill X to install it
[21:08] <Verminator> tonsofpcs, moslty writting docs, surfing the net, IM, skype, soem gaming, some programming.
[21:08] <madjoe1> tonsofpcs: ?
[21:09] <FloridaGuy> Katsumi32, nvidia.com
[21:09] <tonsofpcs> Verminator: "some gaming" ?
[21:09] <Katsumi32> FloridaGuy,  wait a sec:) tell me what graphic card do you have ?
[21:09]  * P4 feels ifnored
[21:09] <tonsofpcs> as for the programming, i'd think the 64 would be better
[21:09] <tonsofpcs> madjoe1: xdebug.  it exists.
[21:09] <geoffmcc> LucidGuy: thats what i was trying to say, it does not list a protocol as a connection option, i thought maybe that was saying something, but i wasnt sure
[21:09] <FloridaGuy> Katsumi32, nvidia geforce 6200
[21:09] <madjoe1> tonsofpcs: ok, I'll check my repos
[21:09] <Katsumi32> FloridaGuy, one sec let me check nvidia web
[21:10] <LucidGuy> geoffmcc, thanks ..
[21:10] <FloridaGuy> Katsumi32, nvidia gf 6200 suports nvidia latest drivers
[21:10] <Verminator> tonsofpcs, r u alson on stnylug?
[21:10] <tonsofpcs> it appears so
[21:10] <madjoe1> tonsofpcs: php5-xdebug is that it?
[21:11] <DJones> LucidGuy: Looking at http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/wireless80211/a/aa80211standard.htm "Wireless A" uses a different freqency to B/G/N so I doubt that they would be compatible with wireless A
[21:11] <tonsofpcs> madjoe1: no clue.  I don't use xdebug.
[21:11] <venik> I guess no one else uses Audacity... (except Obama)
[21:11] <madjoe1> tonsofpcs: it seems light.. I already like it :)
[21:11] <tonsofpcs> venik: huh?
[21:12] <DJones> LucidGuy: That article does say that A & B are incompatible with each other
[21:12] <venik> Audacity seems unaware of my audio device
[21:12] <firewalker22> quick question for the pros: is there a way to set file permissions for a folder in such a way that all folders and files created within inherit the permissions of the parent folder?
[21:12] <venik> which is working fine
[21:12] <venik> but I cannot use AUdacity to record anything
[21:13] <FloridaGuy> Katsumi32, here's the suport for the card....    http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-256.53-driver.html
[21:13] <tonsofpcs> venik: well, it needs to be aware of your audio device to record.  Try killing pulseaudio then reloading audacity
[21:13] <Katsumi32> FloridaGuy, there is few 6200 are you sure its only 6200 or there are other symbols too? and what linux do you have 32 or 64 ?
[21:13] <LucidGuy> DJones, yes older legacy protocols due have issues with each other...  but N seems to be different
[21:13] <venik> How do I kill pulseaudio?
[21:13] <FloridaGuy> mine is the 6200
[21:13]  * aliverius coughs
[21:13] <ingrid> hi to every one I am new to ubuntu and wondered if any one can help me I hooked up my brother MFC295CN printer and when I began to print the test page nothing happened I typed a note and tried to print it nothing happened help please
[21:14] <DJones> LucidGuy: I would have thought that N was still the same frequency as B/G though
[21:14] <aliverius> the vlc package is too old...
[21:14] <Verminator> venik, I had a "similar" problem recently attaching a mic to the computer.  For whatever reason, ubuntu did not detect both input ports, I had to swithc where the mic attached to the computer.
[21:14] <aliverius> too bad for such a distro
[21:14] <mernilio> venik: ps -aux | grep audio
[21:14] <FloridaGuy> Katsumi32, i closed the wrong screen
[21:14] <mernilio> then use "kill -9 [pid]
[21:15] <mernilio> from top to bottom.
[21:15] <Katsumi32> FloridaGuy, there is few 6200 are you sure its only 6200 or there are other symbols too? and what linux do you have 32 or 64 ?
[21:15] <venik> Here is what I got:
[21:15] <venik> Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[21:15] <venik> root       873  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    Sep10   0:00 [hd-audio0]
[21:15] <venik> udi      10176  2.5  0.2 345352 18260 ?        S<sl 15:38   0:57 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
[21:15] <venik> udi      10223  0.0  0.0  90588  3384 ?        S    15:38   0:00 /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-helper
[21:15] <venik> udi      11624  0.0  0.0   7628   908 pts/1    S+   16:15   0:00 grep audio
[21:15] <FloodBot1> venik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:15] <ingrid> can anyone help me set up my printer
[21:16] <FloridaGuy> Katsumi32, my card is the 6200...im useing 32 bit....and i know what driver is suported
[21:16] <smerz> can someone recommend a good flash editor and compiler for linux ?
[21:16] <Verminator> venik, try "ps aux|grep pulse"
[21:16] <Verminator> the dash is ommitted
[21:16] <experiMENTAL> hi. ubuntu 10.04.1 doesn't detect monitor. i am using 2 identical monitors on 2 machines - 1 is detected, 1 not. detection from 'monitor preferences' doesn't work. how to fix it?
[21:16] <tripelb> geoffmcc that's what I was thinking. Why would this happen?  -- I forgot cause installing SP3completely ditched all my files and etc. (I had two users and both were open when I installed it. The limited user got trashed. The brand new adm user survivled. Later I read, respart in safe mode before installing from some non-official site.) OK so now I need to find an Ubuntu torrent and dl it again. Why would this happen? (not the SP3 trad
[21:16] <sryost> Hi, I am getting a "no route to host" error when I try to ssh into a box that I just set up.  I am sure that openssh-server is installed and sshd is running.  Could my configuration be wrong somewhere?
[21:17] <Verminator> experiMENTAL, you will probably have to manually config the xorg.conf file
[21:17] <Katsumi32> FloridaGuy, im just asking cuz if you install wrong driver you may mess a bit so ok if you know what one is the right one install it but first deactivate the driver you have got in hardware drivers
[21:17] <nul> tripelb: there may be an older folder with the users/data that was replaced, I would think
[21:17] <bmusson> nick pocketprotector
[21:17] <venik> Got basically the same warning/result
[21:17] <venik> "bad ps syntax"
[21:17] <FloridaGuy> Katsumi32, i know....but hows do i close X
[21:18] <sryost> Perhaps there's an incorrect line in my /etc/ssh/sshd_config, or something like that.. I cannot figure it out
[21:18] <experiMENTAL> Verminator: ty. ill try.
[21:18] <pocketprotector> how do i edit the "default" launching program for a particular program?
[21:18] <tonsofpcs> venik: ps aux | grep -i pulse
[21:19] <Katsumi32> FloridaGuy, you dont need to close anything it work like that disable deactivate the driver you have got in hardware drivers than install the nvidia driver you have got and reboot read the installation txt nvidia provide together with your driver
[21:19] <venik> now I am getting: Standard input
[21:20] <Verminator> experiMENTAL, I have similar problem, but am too lazy to adjust xorg.conf file right now
[21:20] <geoffmcc> tripelb: see pm
[21:20] <sjefen6> How do I change session type, when logging in without requiering a password?
[21:20] <alaing> hey ppl
[21:21] <venik> udi@udi-desktop-64:~$ ps aux | grep -l pulse
[21:21] <venik> (standard input)
[21:21] <venik> udi@udi-desktop-64:~$ ^C
[21:21] <alaing> can some one help me with autologin on 10.04?
[21:21] <Geoffrey2> ok, try #2....I'm trying to resolve a long running problem where gconf-sanity-check-2 gives me an error message every time Gnome starts up
[21:21] <alaing> i created a user and then later i changed their details to use it as part of an autologin
[21:21] <sjefen6> alaing: system>administration>logon screen
[21:21] <Katsumi32> alaing, there it should be option in users
[21:22] <alaing> yes i'm geting auth erorrs
[21:22] <FloridaGuy> Katsumi32, you must not know how to install nvidia drivers..from there web site...it wont install inside X...X has to be closed...i just dont want to open etc/initab...edit to run level 3 then reboot
[21:22] <alaing> when the autologin works
[21:22] <alaing> brb just going to get the exact msg
[21:23] <alaing> i think it maybe because my $home is encrypted
[21:23] <alaing> brb
[21:23] <experiMENTAL> Verminator: topic there: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1576526 (is there anywhere available pdf about xorg.conf configuration?)
[21:23] <Katsumi32> FloridaGuy, i have ati card :) i dont think there is anything different between installing nvidia or ati driver. just check up there along with the driver you have got is installation txt
[21:24] <Katsumi32> FloridaGuy, they even say in that txt what to do when u cant boot or otheer issues or how to check the temp and configure your card just read it
[21:26] <FloridaGuy> Katsumi32, here's what nvidia driver says when trying to install inside of X...   ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before   installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING    THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver    download page at www.nvidia.com.
[21:26] <g0bl1n> logging in in Maverick, netbook edition, after setting NVidia driver, have only the wallpaper. ALT-F2 won't open a Run dialog ?
[21:27] <Katsumi32> so read readme FloridaGuy
[21:28] <FloridaGuy> Katsumi32, all i need to know is how to close the ubuntu X session...like i been asking...so i dont have to edit etc/initab
[21:28] <aeon-ltd> FloridaGuy: just kill X and gdm
[21:28] <sjefen6> How do I change session type, when logging in without requiering a password?
[21:29] <alaing> Ok  1 of 3  error msg is "Could not update ICEAuthority file /home/<user>/.ICEAuthority
[21:29] <mernilio> or just press ctrl-backspace
[21:29] <FloridaGuy> aeon-ltd, in terminal typed in kill X  gdm
[21:29] <Katsumi32> FloridaGuy, u think it work like in windows? hehehe no it doesnt even when u install it you still have to configure it to make it work properly so the best is to read and do what nvidia says u dont need to rush etc thats what i learned
[21:30] <alaing> 2 of 3 error msg is "There is a problem with the configuration serve (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256
[21:30] <aeon-ltd> FloridaGuy: i didn;t mean that, to kill the x session, type "sudo kill X && sudo kill gdm"
[21:30] <aeon-ltd> FloridaGuy: or just the gdm part
[21:30] <FloridaGuy> Katsumi32, nvidia  a configure unity..so it does it for you
[21:30] <FloridaGuy> aeon-ltd, thank you
[21:30] <bahr> Hi can someone explain to me, it says on the download page, that the 64bit version is not recommended for daily desktop use? I want to switch to ubuntu, and currently use win 7 64bit, so I suppose, I should use the 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[21:31] <neriukas> yes
[21:31] <alaing> 3of 3 Nautilius could not create the following required folders /home/<user>Desktio,  /home/<user>/.Nautilius. before running nautilus please create these folders or set permission such that nautilias can create them"
[21:31] <Katsumi32> FloridaGuy, why dont you want to read nvidia installation file? i strongly advice you to do that
[21:31] <AndrewMC> bahr: 64bit is fine i dont know why they say that on the site
[21:31] <aeon-ltd> bahr: may as well, although expect more bugs etc than the 32bit version as with any 64bit os
[21:31] <mernilio> I dont like Florida, nor Miami, it's to etnic. I want a blond valcyrian 5,2 telling me about my computer problems!
[21:31] <FloridaGuy> Katsumi32, because i know how to install it
[21:32] <foul_owl> Anyone know what "deauthenticating from [mac address] by local choice (reason=3)" is (dmesg) and why my WUSB54G cannot connect to an access point? Drivers seem to work fine, it can detect my access point. Connecting though just doesn't seem to work. I used to have Ubuntu I believe it was Karmic. I did a fresh install of Lubuntu Lucid. Could it be some problem with Lubuntu specifically? linux-firmware-nonfree is installed, and I have a kn
[21:32] <Katsumi32> FloridaGuy, there is everythign u need to know to install driver for your card hehehe:) you know ok
[21:32] <alaing> can some one help me with autologin on 10.04?
[21:32] <bahr> ok, but isn't there something about, that if your system has 4GB ram or more, you should use the 64 bit version?
[21:33] <alaing> i created a user and then later i changed their details to use it as part of an autologin
[21:33] <alaing> i think it maybe because my $home is encrypted
[21:33] <neriukas> alaig yes i can
[21:33] <alaing> Ok  1 of 3  error msg is "Could not update ICEAuthority file /home/<user>/.ICEAuthority
[21:33] <alaing> 2 of 3 error msg is "There is a problem with the configuration serve (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256
[21:33] <alaing> 3of 3 Nautilius could not create the following required folders /home/<user>Desktio,  /home/<user>/.Nautilius. before running nautilus please create these folders or set permission such that nautilias can create them"
[21:33] <FloodBot1> alaing: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:33] <aeon-ltd> bahr: yes, to take advantage of the extra ram
[21:34] <alaing> neriukas: how do i sort this out?
[21:34] <alaing> i want my machien setup as a server so it needs  to login as a desktop user
[21:34] <bjv> My x server just froze up 100% while playing 'yofrankie'    - checking /var/log/messages i see right before i restarted a bunch of kernel Call Traces
[21:34] <bjv> stuff like:   "Sep 17 15:15:09 maverick10 kernel: [12120.240026] i915          D e6643efc     0   810      2 0x00000000
[21:34] <bahr> ok great, and one last probably stupid question (sorry for that), can I use all the 32 bit apps, if I install the 64 bit version?
[21:34] <bjv> Sep 17 15:15:09 maverick10 kernel: [12120.240051] Call Trace:[<c05ee536>] __mutex_lock_slowpath+0xd6/0x140
[21:35] <bjv> Sep 17 15:15:09 maverick10 kernel: [12120.240077]  [<f898c0dd>] i915_gem_retire_work_handler+0x2d/0xc0 [i915]
[21:35] <bjv> why is maverick using i915?
[21:35] <bjv> i have an intel G41, that should be i965
[21:35] <jcrawford> so I *finally* got ubuntu installed and working on my MacPro 1,1 however it does not see my wifi card :('
[21:35] <bjv> after the call trace it says: Sep 17 15:15:09 maverick10 kernel: [12120.240128] Xorg          D e52d0b40     0  1096   1076 0x00400004
[21:36] <bjv> then an identical looking call trace
[21:36] <jcrawford> will have to use a cable, but at-least it is booting
[21:36] <bjv> then after that Sep 17 15:15:09 maverick10 kernel: [12120.240248] compiz        D 00000292     0  1649   1559 0x00000000
[21:36] <aeon-ltd> bjv: i915 is just the general driver name, iirc
[21:36] <bjv> and a third call trace
[21:36] <Katsumi32> jcrawford,  is you wifi cad inside or outside ?
[21:36] <jcrawford> cannot believe i fought with this for days a few months ago and was unsuccessful, the issue was i created the partitions manually rather than letting Ubuntu use the largest free space
[21:36] <guntbert> !enter | bjv
[21:36] <jcrawford> Katsumi32, inside
[21:36] <jcrawford> it's the apple airport card
[21:36] <guntbert> !paste | bjv
[21:36] <Katsumi32> type lspci and tell me what card do you have
[21:37] <alaing> neriukas ??
[21:37] <jcrawford> kat
[21:37] <jcrawford> Katsumi32, moment
[21:37] <DrupalJim> hey guys. i have varnish setu on my server. and whenever i type in my domain name it puts :8080 on the end of my URL. how do i stop it from doing that?
[21:37] <alaing> any ideas guys?
[21:38] <jcrawford> 0f:00.0 Network Controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 01)
[21:38] <jcrawford> sorry had to type it all by hand as the other install is not on the network :)
[21:38] <alaing> DrupalJim: do you use apache?
[21:38] <mehwork> how can i make an iso from a bootable usb flash drive?
[21:38] <mehwork> do i use dd or mkisofs?
[21:38] <Katsumi32> jcrawford, now type dmesg and paste it http://paste.ubuntu.com/ then show me the link
[21:39] <jcrawford> erm i cannot paste it
[21:39] <jcrawford> but i could pipe to file then scp i think
[21:39] <nakhlawi> !USB | mehwork
[21:39] <jcrawford> let me make sure ssh is running on that machine moment
[21:39] <wessel> what is the command to find a file?
[21:39] <wessel> locate does not always find stuff
[21:39] <jcrawford> ifconfig
[21:39] <jcrawford> haha
[21:39] <mehwork> nakhlawi: that's not what i'm asking
[21:39] <mehwork> i just want to know how to make an iso from a mounted usb
[21:39] <llutz> wessel: "find"
[21:39] <iceroot> wessel: updatedb to update the database from locate
[21:39] <Verminator> wessel, FIND
[21:39] <Verminator> wessel, find
[21:40] <Katsumi32> jcrawford, or check it yourself type dmesg and look there you will see your card anything about missing firmware ?
[21:40] <jcrawford> lol
[21:40] <jcrawford> cant ssh when it's not on the network DOH
[21:40] <mehwork> mkisofs -o /media/usb /tmp/directory/?
[21:40] <mehwork> er
[21:40] <mehwork> mkisofs -o /tmp/foo.iso /media/usb
[21:41] <jcrawford> i see a lot of these
[21:41] <jcrawford> Firmware did not grant requested _OSC control
[21:41] <jcrawford> 20 of em in a row
[21:41] <jcrawford> 10 sorry
[21:42] <nakhlawi> mehwork: try this link: http://www.wikihow.com/Create-an-ISO-File-in-Linux
[21:42] <brandon420> anyone know how to post system stats in irc? like mirc does?
[21:42] <Verminator> experiMENTAL,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LowGraphicsMode
[21:42] <allser> does anyone have experience running ubuntu on lenovo thinkpads?
[21:42] <jcrawford> Katsumi32, is that what you were looking for?
[21:42] <Katsumi32> jcrawford, i found solution go to system hardware drivers you will see there driver fro your card activate it than test it
[21:43] <jcrawford> heh cant download without the network
[21:43] <Katsumi32> jcrawford, if you have external on and off switch for your wifi card remeber to switch it on
[21:43] <guntbert> !anyone | allser (but yes)
[21:43] <jcrawford> will have to switch the cable from the laptop to the desktop
[21:43] <drjo> is there a way to disable the folders that come with ubuntu?
[21:43] <jcrawford> brb
[21:43] <iceroot> drjo: which folders?
[21:44] <drjo> iceroot; sorry for being vague :p Music, Examples, Pictures Videos etc
[21:44] <drjo> in the home folder
[21:44] <kinections> how do i change JAVA_HOME? Is there a standardw ay to do it? or should i change my env files?
[21:44] <madjoe1> wow!! xdebug is awesome!!!
[21:44] <iceroot> drjo: they are in /etc/skel/
[21:44] <drjo> kinections; /etc/enviroment
[21:44] <iceroot> drjo: everything in that folder is created when a new user is added
[21:45] <drjo> iceroot, so if i remove it from there i should be able to diable it for any future users
[21:45] <kinections> drjo: so.. that is the standard way to do it? the variable is already set.. its just pointed to openjdk instead of sun's
[21:45] <geoffmcc> clear
[21:45] <iceroot> drjo: correct
[21:45] <kinections> drjo: there is no update-alternative or dpkg-reconfigure?
[21:45] <jcrawford> ah thanks Katsumi32 downloading and activating now
[21:45] <Katsumi32> u welcome jcrawford
[21:46] <Katsumi32> jcrawford, if you have external on and off switch for your wifi card remeber to switch it on
[21:46] <drjo> kinections: dont know, im new to debian based stuff, but when i installed it i just did it in /etc/enviroment and it works
[21:46] <jcrawford> now to get the desktop setup for work and i will be killin it with dual screens lol
[21:46] <jcrawford> Katsumi32, ya the mac pro doesnt have that :)
[21:46] <jcrawford> it's all internal'
[21:47] <drjo> iceroot, i dont have any files in that folder
[21:47] <iceroot> drjo: hm, maybe its a gnome-thing
[21:48] <drjo> kinections: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[21:49] <drjo> iceroot, i think it has to do with something called XDG-DIRS
[21:49] <warz> hi all. is there an ubuntu daemon type program that will look for a particular process and if its not running it'll execute it?
[21:49] <warz> i dont mean at startup, i just mean like .. all the time
[21:49] <iceroot> drjo: i think so because the folders are not created without x
[21:49] <warz> if it is running, it won't do anything
[21:49] <iceroot> drjo: then only /etc/skel/ is used
[21:50] <warz> i just want to ensure that my program will *always* be running
[21:50] <snow_usa> hi
[21:50] <snow_usa> how to install natbib in ubuntu
[21:50] <snow_usa> ?
[21:50] <guntbert> snow_usa: what is natbib?
[21:50] <theuser51> test
[21:51] <guntbert> theuser51: not here please
[21:53] <antIP> Anyone have trouble creating a new folder via the gui in Ubuntu Gnome? When in nuatilus I select "Create Folder" and a new folder pops up for about .5 seconds and then closes and I can't create a new folder.
[21:53] <veenenen> Hey everybody. Anyone know what's going on the apple magic trackpad drivers? They've been working fine in maverick until this afternoon's updates, now the configuration tab in mouse preferences is gone and tap to click isn't working.
[21:54] <wessel> can someone explain me this error?
[21:54] <veenenen> Along with every other multitouch gesture.
[21:54] <wessel> wessel@wegumar7 ~/torcs/game $ sudo cp /usr/local/share/games/torcs/ .
[21:54] <wessel> cp: omitting directory `/usr/local/share/games/torcs/'
[21:54] <wessel> I want to copy those files to ~/torcs/game
[21:55] <aliverius> is this a valid entry in /etc/hosts.allow?        vlc : ALL
[21:55] <bazhang> veenenen, #ubuntu+1 for 10.10
[21:55] <aliverius> i want other computers to connect to the vlc http server
[21:55] <veenenen> bazhang: thanks
[21:56] <vsMS> hi, someone here who has successfully installed lucid as kvm host?
[21:56] <Charbel> sometimes when i run update command in terminal i got this problem ---> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid/partner Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_dists_lucid_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[21:56] <Charbel> with a message ---> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[21:56] <bazhang> Charbel, then remove the extra entry or do as the message suggests
[21:57] <Charbel> what is the extra entry ?
[21:57] <bazhang> Charbel, duplicate sources.list entry
[21:58] <Jonta> I see two external harddrives in my /media-directory. They aren't connected though. Unmounting with umount returns that they're not mounted (according to mtab). Anyone?
[21:58] <Charbel> how can i remove it ?
[21:58] <bazhang> Charbel, care to paste.ubuntu.com with the sources.list ? so we can take a look
[21:59] <jrib> Jonta: you just see two empty directories?
[21:59] <mernilio> Just reboot the whole damn thing, and it will disappere
[21:59] <bazhang> mernilio, not really sound advice
[21:59] <Charbel> ok
[21:59] <wessel> ls
[21:59] <Jonta> jrib: cd-ing to them returns Permission Denied. Can't sudo cd either
[21:59] <jrib> Jonta: sudo ls
[21:59] <Jesdisciple> if you feel comfortable using sudo to change system thingies
[21:59] <Jesdisciple> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:00] <wessel> msg NickServ identify barbarian-irc 123qwe
[22:00] <bazhang> Charbel, cat /etc/apt/sources.list ---> paste.ubuntu.com
[22:00] <bazhang> Jesdisciple, gksudo
[22:00] <bazhang> wessel, change your password
[22:00] <Charbel> ok thx man
[22:00] <nakhlawi> wessel: you have announced your password to everyone!
[22:00] <foul_owl>  Anyone know what "deauthenticating from [mac address] by local choice (reason=3)" is (dmesg) and why my WUSB54G cannot connect to an access point? Drivers seem to work fine, it can detect my access point. Connecting though just doesn't seem to work. I used to have Ubuntu I believe it was Karmic. I did a fresh install of Lubuntu Lucid. Could it be some problem with Lubuntu specifically? linux-firmware-nonfree is installed, and I have a k
[22:00] <Jesdisciple> how's it better to type your password in a GUI than the command-line?
[22:01] <Jonta> jrib: sudo ls -l returns that they are drwx
[22:01] <bazhang> Jesdisciple, gksudo with graphical apps
[22:01] <wessel> oh
[22:01] <Jonta> I suppose I could try chmodding them?
[22:01] <morpheuspr> is there a way to widgets on xubuntu??
[22:01] <jrib> Jonta: they're empty, right?  Anyway, just leave them there.  Or delete them if you don't want them there
[22:01] <Jesdisciple> I'm very curious how it matters...
[22:01] <bazhang> !gksudo | Jesdisciple
[22:02] <alaing> can some one help me with autologin on 10.04?
[22:02] <alaing> i want my machien setup as a server so it needs  to login as a desktop user
[22:02] <jrib> Jesdisciple: gksudo does nice things for gui apps.  In the past, some apps would end up with config files owned by root if you ran them with sudo
[22:02] <alaing> i created a user and then later i changed their details to use it as part of an autologin
[22:02] <rallias> how do i rename a file from the command line?
[22:02] <jrib> rallias: mv old new
[22:02] <jrib> !cli > rallias
[22:02] <rallias> thanks
[22:02] <Jonta> jrib: They're just 4.0K, yes. I suppose I could try deleting. Hang on.
[22:02] <mehwork> how can i mount a .gho file or convert the ghost file to an iso image?
[22:02] <alaing> i think it maybe because my $home is encrypted
[22:03] <IamReck> Anyone know anything about Ubuntu syslog and Centos syslog?
[22:03] <jrib> alaing: why would your machine acting as some sort of server rely on auto-login?
[22:03] <jrib> !away > Cablekevin
[22:03] <jrib> IamReck: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[22:03] <mehwork> how can i mount a .gho file or convert the ghost file to an iso image?
[22:03] <mehwork> sorry for repeating
[22:04] <alaing> jrib i thought it had to be logged in to access the services
[22:04] <IamReck> I am trying to get Ubuntu 10.04 to syslog to a CentOS 5.5 Server and I can not get it to do so.
[22:04] <jrib> alaing: "services" is too vague
[22:04] <erUSUL> IamReck: maybe they use different syslog daemons? i know ubuntu uses rsyslog
[22:04] <alaing> webserver (lampp) and enable wifi connection
[22:04] <rallias> how do i install the rubygem Bundler (or where would i be more apt at finding that help?)
[22:04] <IamReck> erUSUL, they do, but syslog is a unix utility they should be able to get along./
[22:04] <jrib> alaing: yeah, you don't need to login
[22:04] <erUSUL> alaing: the webserver boots with the system no log in needed.
[22:05] <erUSUL> IamReck: well that's where my knowledge stops. sorry. maybe #ubuntu-server is of more help
[22:05] <IamReck> thanks erUSUL
[22:07] <alaing> my webserver does not start autmatically
[22:07] <erUSUL> alaing: about the wifi connection if you used network manager i think you need to tik a checkbox in the configuration to make it aviable witout login . if that does not work you will have to use /etc/network/interfaces
[22:07] <mikeos> no response on #ubuntu+1;  somebody here running KDE 4.5.1 on Maverick for testing the behaviour of Lid Close?
[22:07] <Morell> Hello. Work resize2fs with ext4?
[22:07] <loredana> hello!
[22:07] <jrib> mikeos: this channel is not for maverick support.  Be patient in #ubuntu+1
[22:07] <alaing> will i be able to remote desktop to it?
[22:08] <iceroot> alaing: ssh
[22:08] <aeon-ltd> mikeos: also its more likely a acpi issue rather than directly related to kde
[22:09] <alaing> sorry i'm really new to ssh/ubuntu and linux ingeneral
[22:09] <alaing> what is ssh used for?
[22:09] <erUSUL> Morell: the man page claims it does
[22:09] <wessel> can someone help me with this error?
[22:09] <iceroot> !ssh | alaing
[22:09] <wessel>      [java] Error: /home/wessel/torcs/game/torcs/config/raceman/quickrace.xml (Permission denied)
[22:09] <wessel>      [java] Error: /home/wessel/torcs/game/torcs/drivers/championship2010server/championship2010server.xml (Permission denied)
[22:09] <brandon420> ty iceroot
[22:09] <mikeos> aeon-ltd:  right, but IMHO KDE with powerdevil does some magic over powermanagement too
[22:09] <alaing> oh i've heard about putty
[22:10] <wessel> I did chmod -R +x torcs
[22:10] <wessel> and +r and +w :-/
[22:10] <alaing> but coudl never get it to work.
[22:10] <a7x_> e
[22:10] <erUSUL> wessel: did you used « sudo make » ? when compiling ?
[22:10] <wessel> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2353 2010-09-17 22:57 /home/wessel/torcs/game/torcs/config/raceman/quickrace.xml
[22:10] <wessel> no I did not
[22:10] <Morell> erUSUL: is not clear to me...
[22:10] <laurentum> hello. i just installed ubuntu 10.04 desktop on an hp mini. sound was working ok. then i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and afterwards my netbook went mute. now i cant even listen to .ogg files
[22:10] <brandon420> alaing, check pms
[22:11] <jrib> wessel: torcs is in the repository, use your package manager
[22:11] <erUSUL> Morell: what is not clear?
[22:11] <wessel> erUSUL, when I do sudo make now, nothing happens
[22:12] <erUSUL> wessel: no; you do not have to use sudo make
[22:12] <wessel> jrib, downloading torcs now, but this probably will not work
[22:12] <wessel> I did do sudo make install
[22:12] <jrib> wessel: why would you say that?
[22:13] <aeon-ltd> laurentum: open a terminal, type alsamixer press enter
[22:13] <wessel> jrib, because it says in the assignment to download torcs
[22:13] <wessel> but I'll try anyway
[22:13] <laurentum> ok aeon-ltd
[22:13] <mernilio> Then take a sip of beer.. and continue..
[22:13] <jrib> wessel: I'm not sure what assignment you are talking about.  If you want to install and play torcs, just use a package manager like Add/Remove Software or Synaptic
[22:14] <wessel> no I want to run java code wish uses torcs
[22:14] <wessel> and I need to patch files
[22:14] <laurentum> the three bars seem full at the top. 100%
[22:14] <wessel> with some patch.dat that I also need to download
[22:14] <aeon-ltd> laurentum: max out all bars with up arrow key, and make sure they all show 00 not MM if they show MM go to the offending bar and press "m"
[22:14] <Jesdisciple> torcs will work fine as installed by a package manager
[22:14] <bazhang> mernilio, stay on topic please
[22:14] <Jesdisciple> it's the same thing, just easier
[22:15] <gmachine_24> I am running 8.04LTS HH on an old comp and every time I try to run synaptic or do a sudo apt-get update from a terminal my computer freezes and I have to shut it down and restart it
[22:15] <mernilio> bazhang: mm
[22:15] <gmachine_24> I removed and reinstalled synaptic but it didn't matter.
[22:16] <Morell> erUSUL: If the filesystem is mounted, it can be used to expand the size of the  mounted  filesystem,  assuming  the  kernel supports on-line resizing
[22:16] <aeon-ltd> laurentum: after that test sound using whatever choice of player, or web music
[22:16] <erUSUL> Morell: never tried doing that. and i dunno if it is possible
[22:17] <cookiemad> gmachine_24: how much RAM has the comuter got? I recommend at LEAST 256mb +. Anything above should be fine. And do you mean 10.04 LTS or 8.04?
[22:17] <Morell> erUSUL: But it works if you umount the file system?
[22:17] <gmachine_24> cookiemad I mean 8.04LTS and it has 1GB of RAM.
[22:17] <erUSUL> Morell: yes; you can resize ext* partitions to fit a resized partition
[22:17] <gmachine_24> like the name, btw
[22:18] <wessel> I installed torcs with package manager:
[22:18] <wessel> now I get the same error
[22:18] <wessel>      [java] Error: /usr/share/games/torcs/config/raceman/quickrace.xml (Permission denied)
[22:18] <aeon-ltd> laurentum: hows it?
[22:18] <gmachine_24> I am about to nuke the HD and reinstall but I thought I'd check here in case there is a problem and a fix
[22:19] <jrib> wessel: you aren't telling us what you are doing to get the error
[22:19] <wessel> I'm running ant run from within eclipse
[22:20] <jrib> wessel: what is "ant run"?
[22:20] <cookiemad> gmachine_24: I would say get more ram if its under 256 but thats all i got :D try reinstall, maybe test another manager (gnome, KDE, etc...)
[22:20] <foul_owl>  Anyone know what "deauthenticating from [mac address] by local choice (reason=3)" is (dmesg) and why my WUSB54G cannot connect to an access point? Drivers seem to work fine, it can detect my access point. Connecting though just doesn't seem to work. I used to have Ubuntu I believe it was Karmic. I did a fresh install of Lubuntu Lucid. Could it be some problem with Lubuntu specifically? linux-firmware-nonfree is installed, and I have a k
[22:21] <Morell> erUSUL: I have /home on LVM2. I want to extend / home
[22:21] <bazhang> foul_owl, got cut off:  and I have a ...
[22:21] <foul_owl> my message got cut off?
[22:21] <bazhang> yes
[22:21] <gmachine_24> cookiemad, no, as I said there is 1GB of ram so that is not the problem.
[22:22] <gmachine_24> I think maybe the hard drive is frying................
[22:22] <foul_owl> dang, just trying to provide enough info
[22:22] <gmachine_24> thanks for your time people
[22:22] <erUSUL> Morell: then i think you have to first enlarge the lvm partition with lvm tools ( i dunno how that's done i do not use lvm ) then use resize to enlarge the fs to the new partition size
[22:22] <erUSUL> !lvm | Morell
[22:22] <Kane_Hart_2> If anyone wants to take a couple minutes to check out my thread on tmpfs/ ramdisk and post a comment that would be great http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9858178#post9858178
[22:23] <wessel> jrib, I'm loading an build.xml file into eclipse, then I right click "ant build" then "ant run"
[22:23] <wessel> ant is some java package manager for easy compilation
[22:23] <steelrat> hello, guys! can anybody please tell me, is there a way to upgrade ubuntu from 9.10 to 10.04 without internet connection?
[22:23] <foul_owl> Lubuntu Lucid. WUSB54G. drivers work. cannot connect. dmesg: "deauthenticating from [mac address] by local choice (reason=3)"
[22:23] <jrib> wessel: well in that case use the torcs you installed to your home and make sure you have proper permissions on the installed files
[22:23] <jrib> !permissions > wessel
[22:23] <bazhang> foul_owl, what is the chipset
[22:23] <cookiemad> gmachine_24: all i can suggest is that you try reformatting and reinstalling. You can do this before installation on the live CD
[22:24] <xangua> !alternate | steelrat
[22:24] <foul_owl> bazhang: how do i determine that
[22:24] <bazhang> foul_owl, lspci if pci, lsusb if usb then paste.ubuntu.com with the output
[22:24] <foul_owl> awesome, thanks
[22:24] <foul_owl> brb
[22:26] <Sentynel> My Ubuntu 10.04 laptop won't connect to a WEP encrypted network. Keeps popping up the 'authentication required' box. My phone will connect fine, however. And the laptop has worked in the past.
[22:27] <Icehole> Guys
[22:27] <Morell> erUSUL: No RAID
[22:27] <Icehole> I need some help concerning an overwritten map in sauerbraten.
[22:27] <Morell> erUSUL: How umount /home?
[22:27] <Deepak_Shakur> umount -f /home
[22:28] <erUSUL> Morell: do the operations from a livecd/usb
[22:28] <Deepak_Shakur> mount /home
[22:28] <Deepak_Shakur> man mount
[22:28] <Morell> erUSUL: :-) ok Ty
[22:28] <Icehole> I accidentally saved over a map I was making and need to know how to use the .BAK file to recover it.
[22:28] <Charbel> bazhang, it's done
[22:29] <jrib> Icehole: it's likely the same file but renamed to have .BAK at the end
[22:29] <Icehole> Thank ye
[22:29] <foul_owl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/495547/
[22:30] <rocket16> What is the command to shutdown the computer without using the sudo command? I wish to make a keyboard shortcut for it.
[22:30] <rocket16> Should I chmod the command, if possible?
[22:30] <aeon-ltd> rocket16: not sure how you'd map it, but the command is sudo shutdown -h now
[22:30] <Icehole> jirib
[22:30] <Icehole> I love you, man.
[22:31] <rocket16> aeon-ltd: Indeed, I use "sudo halt" commands though, which perform the same function.
[22:31] <aeon-ltd> rocket16: meh, you can make any command not require sudo just by editing the sudoers file
[22:31] <rocket16> But I wish to have the command with which the user shuts down the computer from GUI in an user account.
[22:32] <rocket16> aeon-ltd: Indeed, chmoding it. I think I should give it a try.
[22:32] <foul_owl> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/495547/
[22:32] <jrib> rocket16: maybe gnome-session-save, otherwise you likely have to mess with dbus to get gdm to turn off the computer (I'm fairly certain this is how it worked at some point)
[22:33] <bazhang> foul_owl, still checking
[22:33] <theuser51> How do I recover when Ubuntu hangs?
[22:34] <erUSUL> theuser51: depends on the "hang"
[22:34] <foul_owl> thanks, just wanted to be sure you got it :)
[22:34] <bazhang> foul_owl, does ifconfig show it, or only eth0 lo
[22:35] <thy> Do you lice kde?
[22:35] <theuser51> erUSUL, How about a bad, really bad, f'ed up hang?
[22:35] <thy> Do you like kde?
[22:35] <bazhang> thy, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:35] <Jamie_Too> theuser51: guess you mean sysrq and R S E I U B?
[22:35] <thy> Sorry
[22:35] <erUSUL> theuser51: one with blinking keyboard leds?
[22:35] <maco> Jamie_Too: er.. REISUB
[22:36] <Jamie_Too> maco: hmm, thought it was raising skinny elephants is utterly boring?
[22:36] <Jamie_Too>  he he
[22:36] <foul_owl> does ifconfig show what? my wifi card?
[22:36] <maco> Jamie_Too: if you do S before E & I the E & I could result in processes trying to write to disk and then you have more data left to sync (S) before the unmount (U)
[22:37] <sjefen6> How do I change session type, when logging in without requiering a password?
[22:37] <thy> Sorry what's the room to talk about objective c compiler in ubuntu?
[22:37] <Jamie_Too> maco: just googled it, you're right =)
[22:38] <erUSUL> thy: ask here
[22:38] <thy> Ok thanx
[22:38] <aeon-ltd> thy: try #gcc
[22:38] <cannonfodder> hey anyone here use lmms ?
[22:38] <scriptfreeze> whats up all
[22:38] <erUSUL> cannonfodder: maybe more people use it in #ubuntustudio
[22:39] <thy> To compiler object c programs with gcc what i do?
[22:39] <scriptfreeze> was up
[22:39] <foul_owl> bazhang: ifconfig shows my eth, my wifi card, and loopback
[22:40] <Ilay> thy
[22:40] <aeon-ltd> thy: not sure but if its the same as c, gcc -o fileno1.c fileno1
[22:40] <Ilay> aeon-ltd, wrong
[22:40] <Ilay> thy, gcc file.c -o file
[22:41] <bazhang> foul_owl, seems you need to associate correctly with that AP then
[22:41] <aeon-ltd> Ilay: *facepalms*, sorry been a while since i compiled anything
[22:41] <bazhang> !wifi | foul_owl please check this on how to do that
[22:41] <thy> But it's the same c syntax?
[22:41] <thy> For gcc ?
[22:42] <aeon-ltd> thy: accorrding to Ilay, yes
[22:42] <thy> Ok thanks
[22:42] <Ilay> thy, it's for compile C program
[22:42] <Ilay> thy, not C++
[22:43] <Charbel> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/495546/
[22:43] <erUSUL> thy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1064045
[22:43] <theuser51> Suggest me a personal/private wiki that is lean and mean.
[22:43] <thy> And gcc compile c and object c program?
[22:43] <foul_owl> bazhang: what do you mean? I try to connect, but i keep getting the error "deauthenticating from [mac address] by local choice (reason=3)" it is a problem with ubuntu, not my access point
[22:43] <thy> Without install libraries?
[22:43] <scriptfreeze> hey anyone no how i get bot net running
[22:44] <bazhang> Charbel, this is lucid or karmic? you have both in your sources list
[22:44] <ZykoticK9> !ot | scriptfreeze i hope you are joking
[22:44] <Ilay> thy, what do you mean when saying "to compile object c program"?
[22:44] <bazhang> scriptfreeze, wrong network dont ask
[22:45] <geoffmcc> lol
[22:45] <Charbel> bazhang, i installed karmic from a CD then after few months i upgrade to lucid
[22:45] <Ilay> thy, what do you mean when saying "to compile object c program"?
[22:45] <thy> Thanks for link
[22:45] <bazhang> Charbel, well you need to comment out the karmic sources, and the extra canonical lucid partner repo
[22:46] <babob> hello
[22:46] <thy> And there ide for objective c?
[22:46] <Ilay> )
[22:47] <babob> i need some help
[22:47] <bazhang> Charbel, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and place a # in front of the karmic sources, and the duplicate lucid canonical partner repo; save, the sudo apt-get update
[22:47] <thy> Like eclipse or netbeans
[22:47] <thy> .
[22:47] <babob> i downloaded a game called second life but i cant seem to get it to work
[22:47] <thy> ?
[22:47] <babob> its because i dont know how to use the commands
[22:47] <Ilay> thy, xcode
[22:47] <babob> i just installed ubunyu yyesterday
[22:48] <thy> But run only mac system ? It's true?
[22:48] <erUSUL> thy: maybe gnustep has one
[22:48] <Ilay> thy, yep
[22:48] <dot> hello, Is there a way i can get sun java installed on my computer? all the java games that i try to play always just have black or grey screens. dis-including chatrooms/
[22:48] <bazhang> dot for lucid?
[22:49] <erUSUL> thy: http://www.gnustep.org/experience/ProjectCenter.html
[22:49] <dot> Ubuntu? ;o
[22:49] <Ilay> thy, do you want to write programs for iphone/ipod or just use obj-c?
[22:49] <geoffmcc> babob: did u try the sudo suggestion from before?
[22:49] <foul_owl> bazhang: is it a driver problem? or some other problem?
[22:49] <bazhang> dot partner repo if lucid
[22:49] <bazhang> foul_owl, an association/authentication problem; check the link I sent you to set it up
[22:50] <bazhang> !partner | dot
[22:50] <dot> I have just installed ubuntu as my os yesterday so i'm still a little slow
[22:50] <bazhang> !java > dot
[22:50] <thy> I want to write iPad programs?
[22:50] <foul_owl> bazhang: gotcha. thanks for the help! will do
[22:50] <babob> same here
[22:50] <dot> alright, ill try that!
[22:50] <thy> I want to write iPad program
[22:50] <tectonic> Does anyone think they would use this?  http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1702823
[22:50] <aeon-ltd> thy: ask in #objc
[22:50] <dev2> when I run sudo apt-get install mysql  (or any package name) it gives me an error about suppodrted modules and lists them (.deb, *pkg etc).  I never had this on my last install of the same version of Ubuntu. Any suggestions?
[22:50] <tectonic> I'm trying to decide if it's worth it.
[22:51] <Ilay> thy, you can write ipad/iphone/ipod programs only if you have xcode+osX
[22:51] <thy> Ok thanx for help
[22:51] <Ilay> thy, or hackintosh
[22:51] <bazhang> tectonic, no advertising here please
[22:51] <tectonic> bazhang: not trying to advertise
[22:51] <bazhang> tectonic, wrong place for it
[22:51] <thy> What's hackintosh?
[22:52] <tectonic> bazhang: ok
[22:52] <erUSUL> foul_owl: try this « sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off » see if that fixes the disconnecting problem
[22:52] <Ilay> thy, do you know about google?
[22:53] <Ilay> sorry for adversting google...
[22:53] <bazhang> thy, offtopic for here; please /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:53] <thy> Ok thanks......
[22:53] <erUSUL> Ilay: or monotouch or the adobe thingy... there are afew alternatives now
[22:54] <thy> Thanx for help and good night
[22:54] <Ilay> erUSUL, did you use that for writing programs for appstore?
[22:54] <erUSUL> Ilay: no; just enjoyed the fireworks when apple tried to ban them ;)
[22:55] <LinuxGuy2009> Someone told me that using dpkg to manually install a folder of packages can cause breakages, is that true?
[22:55] <dev2> I'm confused, evidently. Nevermind :)
[22:55]  * erUSUL will shut up now
[22:55] <Ilay> erUSUL, that's why I asked:)
[22:55] <erUSUL> LinuxGuy2009: it shouldn't unless you use --foce-* options
[22:56] <foul_owl> bazhang: i found this, but i need a bit of assistance in order to proceed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/548992
[22:56] <dot> Okay heres another one, How do i get root privileges?
[22:56] <LinuxGuy2009> erUSUL:  Thats what I thought. Wanted to verify though. Thanks.
[22:56] <erUSUL> !root | dot
[22:56] <LinuxGuy2009> There is no spoon
[22:56] <foul_owl> bazhang: it looks like i can just uninstall the network manager, but would that mess other things up?
[22:57] <erUSUL> foul_owl: try my easy solution before jumping to bigger things
[22:57] <Ilay> foul_owl, why you gouing to remove netmanager?
[22:57] <erUSUL> foul_owl: try this « sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off » ina terminal see if that fixes the disconnecting problem
[22:58] <erUSUL> foul_owl: just a command easy to test if it helps
[22:58] <junior> alguem pode me dizer qual o canal ubuntu brasil?
[22:59] <Charbel> bazhang, is there another way to edit sources.list ?
[22:59] <erUSUL> !br | junior
[23:01] <haytham-med> erUSUL: how u know which language it is? :)
[23:01] <foul_owl> erUSUL: thanks, i will try that
[23:02] <erUSUL> haytham-med: i'm spanish from galicia. i live near portugal and speak a language similar to portugueses ( galician ). but the final clue was "ubuntu brasil" ;P
[23:02] <foul_owl> Ilay: I am having this issue:
[23:02] <foul_owl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/548992
[23:02] <erUSUL> foul_owl: try it just now. if it helps we have to add it to /etc/rc.local so it sticks across reboots
[23:03] <foul_owl> try that command, then try to connect?
[23:04] <Ilay> foul_owl, try to update madwifi
[23:04] <erUSUL> foul_owl: yes
[23:04] <foul_owl> thanks to both of you, will try those things now, brb
[23:04] <equex> hi. using ubuntu 8.04, any help for that here ?
[23:05] <ILessThan3Linux> Hey I'm running Ubuntu 64 bit 10.04.  I just put in a second 2 GB stick of RAM for a total of 4 GB.  My BIOS recognizes that I have 4096 MB of memory and it passed the memory test.  However, when I start up Ubuntu and run free, Ubuntu only recognizes 3479164 KB.
[23:05] <sebbz> ILessThan3Linux, you need 64 bits version for using more than 3 gig ram
[23:05] <sebbz> oops
[23:05] <sebbz> didn't read everything
[23:05] <sebbz> sorry
[23:05] <ComradeHaz`> Hi all. Trying to install Ubuntu on a machine but having video problems. The menu to selct 'run live cd', 'install', check disc for errors' etc shows up but as soon as I select one of those the video output turns off. If I leave it having selected run from cd I get the ubuntu startup drums. Please assist! :D
[23:05] <ngirard_> Hi all. Which from vino or vinagre can replace vncviewer ? it always confuses me
[23:05] <xangua> ILessThan3Linux: equal to 4gb
[23:05] <zvacet> ask! | equex
[23:05] <equex> enable memory hole in bios
[23:06] <erUSUL> ILessThan3Linux: you are sure is 64 bits? « uname -m » what says
[23:06] <ILessThan3Linux> erUSUL: x86_64
[23:06] <equex> ok i take its dont ask to ask here. well. here i go.
[23:06] <ILessThan3Linux> sebbz: I said Ubuntu 64-bit
[23:06] <ILessThan3Linux> xangua: That amont is equal to 4 GB?
[23:07] <c1rcuit> hey so I installed crunchbang (ubuntu + openbox) and am trying to sudo apt-get something that i know for sure is there. however, it keeps giving me an error saying that it cant find the package
[23:07] <c1rcuit> this happened to me once b4 but i cant remember the solution
[23:07] <aeon-ltd> ILessThan3Linux: no it isn't, its closer to 3.3GB the memory cap for 32bit systems
[23:07] <aeon-ltd> !sources
[23:07] <IdleOne> !crunchbang | c1rcuit
[23:08] <c1rcuit> GAH
[23:08] <c1rcuit> ok guys bye
[23:08] <ILessThan3Linux> aeon-ltd: I didn't think it was.
[23:08] <c1rcuit> :/
[23:08] <zvacet> equex : yoyu can ask here if you have problem with hardy
[23:08] <ILessThan3Linux> If I have 64 bit (which I do), why would I not be seeing all 4 GB?
[23:08] <ComradeHaz`> !sources | c1rcuit
[23:08] <cherrypie92116> Ihi all. Ive used Ubuntu, and it stored flv files in the temp folder, I dont see a tmp folder in Lubuntu, does anyone know where firefox stores flv files in Lubuntu?
[23:08] <aeon-ltd> !ppa | c1rcuit
[23:08] <trond-> hi, I have some DVDs that I want to watch, but I can't. (Disney dvds for instance). Which encoder do I have to install?
[23:09] <aeon-ltd> ILessThan3Linux: do a uname -a just to check
[23:10] <ramu> hi, my volume doesnt work, increase or decrease in volume doesnt change the output volume it remians constant, also ear phones and mic doesnt work
[23:10] <ILessThan3Linux> aeon-ltd: It says x86_64, as well.
[23:10] <coventry> Whenever my 10.04 laptop wakes up and establishes a network connection, at the top of /etc/resolv.conf it puts the local IP address of my wireless router at home, 192.168.2.1.  This makes DNS lookups very slow if I'm on my home network.  Where should I look for the misconfiguration which is causing this?
[23:10] <aeon-ltd> ILessThan3Linux: you didn't happen to pereload anything to ram or anything like that?
[23:10] <aeon-ltd> *preload
[23:11] <haytham-med> !ubottu
[23:11] <ILessThan3Linux> aeon-ltd: What do you mean?
[23:11] <haytham-med> :)
[23:11] <ramu>  hi, my volume doesnt work, increase or decrease in volume doesnt change the output volume it remians constant, also ear phones and mic doesnt wor
[23:11] <KKSS> hio pwwps
[23:11] <theuser51> !spam | ramu
[23:11] <ramu> im not spam!
[23:11] <KKSS> HIO PEEPS
[23:11] <ramu> hell
[23:11] <aeon-ltd> ILessThan3Linux: did you follow any how-tos on loading things to ram for faster loading?
[23:11] <ramu> there wont be any reply here
[23:11] <dot> :D finally got java working. thanks!
[23:11] <ILessThan3Linux> aeon-ltd: No.
[23:11] <ramu> waste of shouting
[23:12] <foul_owl> back, that wlan0 power off command didnt work
[23:12] <ramu> this is 5th time
[23:12] <ramu> im asking
[23:12] <theuser51> !gotohell | ramu
[23:12] <aeon-ltd> ILessThan3Linux: have you suspended or put the pc on standby, on this boot?
[23:12] <ramu> stupid
[23:12] <ILessThan3Linux> No.
[23:12] <IdleOne> !botabuse | theuser51
[23:12] <ramu> doesnt care
[23:12] <equex> i just needi am using alsa mixer and i want an audio analyzing program called japa (can only poll alsa)  to poll the audio thats beeing played with audacity. thats supposedly how japa work, but it complains it cant poll  (error on capture pollfd it says) any ideas ?
[23:12] <foul_owl> and not sure how to upgrade mad wifi
[23:12] <equex> disregard "i just need"
[23:13] <thune3> coventry: your router is serving dns in its DHCP information, check your router
[23:13] <foul_owl> sorry about your issue ramu, i wish i knew how to help
[23:13] <ramu>  hi, my volume doesnt work, increase or decrease in volume doesnt change the output volume it remians constant, also ear phones and mic doesnt wor
[23:13] <ramu> this is my problem
[23:13] <aeon-ltd> ILessThan3Linux: i've really got no idea what would occupy the 700MB+ thats missing on a fresh boot, my last idea - do a memory test with a ubuntu liveCD
[23:13] <ramu> i m fed up with typing
[23:13] <equex> is this a problem with alsa ?
[23:13] <IdleOne> !patience | ramu
[23:14] <ramu> thank you
[23:14] <ramu> atleast you replied
[23:14] <aeon-ltd> ramu: ok, what volume control? a phsyical one?, on the panel?
[23:14] <mmm4m5m> ﻿Hi all... I need HELP very much,.. something with my partition table after I use FDISK to "fix partition order". Please, please, if you understand these things, take a look: http://pastebin.com/mHqPyQkL
[23:14] <ILessThan3Linux> aeon-ltd: Alright I'll try that wehn I get home.  Something else weird happenhs.  It takes like 20 seconds to load grub from the time I see the BIOS logo... instead of about 5
[23:14] <ramu> on the panel
[23:14] <zvacet> ILessThan3Linux: do you have integrated vga
[23:14] <ramu> some one called me spam :O
[23:15] <ramu> mmm4m  try geparted
[23:15] <ramu> sudo apt-get install gparted
[23:15] <aeon-ltd> ILessThan3Linux: yeah a memory test definately sounds in order
[23:15] <mmm4m5m> ramu: I always use that... it show the same error like parted
[23:15] <ramu> ok
[23:15] <Ilay> mmm4m5m, no chance to restore
[23:15] <aeon-ltd> ramu: is there any sound at all?
[23:15] <ILessThan3Linux> zvacet: I don't know what that is.  I have an ATI FireGLV5200 card
[23:15] <ramu> its there
[23:15] <ILessThan3Linux> *FireGL V5200
[23:15] <ramu> but constant sound
[23:15] <mmm4m5m> ﻿Ilay: right now I am using this hdd - root is /dev/sda8
[23:16] <ramu> im unable to incresse/decrese the sound
[23:16] <ramu> i configered alsa 10.23
[23:16] <zvacet> LessThan3Linux: is it integrated on motherboard or not
[23:16] <ramu> latest
[23:16] <aeon-ltd> ramu: checked alsamixer?
[23:16] <ramu> yeah
[23:16] <ILessThan3Linux> zvacet: I don't know.  I'm guessing so.  But it's only 256 MB
[23:16] <ILessThan3Linux> zvacet: And before, I could see all 2 GB of RAM.
[23:17] <Jamie_Too> IRC issue: I can access this server through windows, but not Xchat/ubuntu, although other servers are fine.  Any ideas?
[23:17] <aeon-ltd> ramu: what speakers does the sound come out of
[23:17] <ramu> its laptop
[23:17] <ramu> laptop speakers
[23:17] <zvacet> ILessThan3Linux: and now you have 4
[23:17] <ramu> and even if i use headphones sound comes out of speakers of laptop
[23:17] <prayii> Jamie_Too: have you tried to connect with anything other than xchat?
[23:17] <Ilay> mmm4m5m, 'enlarged logical partitions overlap'
[23:17] <ILessThan3Linux> zvacet: Yeah, I put in a second 2 GB stick.  Kingston.
[23:17] <aeon-ltd> ramu: does changing gnome sound controls affect the volume output?
[23:18] <ramu> no
[23:18] <mmm4m5m> ﻿Ilay: I need only few partitions to save. Most are empty... just a second...
[23:18] <pie_time> does anyone know how to get veoh on ubuntu?
[23:18] <aeon-ltd> ramu: are you sure your not using OSS not alsa for sound?
[23:18] <ramu> i dont know
[23:18] <ramu> wats OSS
[23:18] <aeon-ltd> !oss | ramu
[23:19] <ramu> i have upgraded alsa from 10.21 to 10.23
[23:19] <mmm4m5m> ﻿Ilay: new partition order: sda1, sda8, sda10 (old partition order: sda1, sda6, sda8)
[23:19] <aeon-ltd> ramu: meh, its open source sound, a different module to handle all sound related stuff
[23:19] <zvacet> ILessThan3Linux : I don´t know how to help you it look like you are loosing to much ram 700 is too much
[23:19] <ramu> ok
[23:19] <ramu> thats nice
[23:19] <ramu> shall i install aht?
[23:19] <aeon-ltd> ramu: no, it probably wouldn't affect anything
[23:20] <ramu> ok
[23:20] <Ilay> mmm4m5m, I dont know what is partition order
[23:20] <ILessThan3Linux> brb
[23:20] <coventry> thune3: My wireless router at home is serving 192.168.2.1 as the DNS IP during the DHCP negotiation.  However, somehow I end up with that IP address at the top of my resolv.conf even when I connect to other networks where it's invalid.  And other machines don't have this problem on those other networks, so I assume it's a misconfiguration of some kind on my laptop.
[23:20] <EvilPhoenix> what do i need to install to get the desktop panels addon to display temperature of system resources?
[23:20] <Jamie_Too> prayii: hmm, no - just seemed odd that EFnet and others were fine, but freenode was unreachable.
[23:20] <pie_time> does anyone know how to get veoh on ubuntu?
[23:20] <mmm4m5m> Ilay: it is before "fix partition order" and after that (fdisk command...)
[23:20] <ramu> i dont think we get veoh
[23:21] <aeon-ltd> pie_time: uhh isn't it flash based? so having flash would make it work
[23:21] <ramu> i have tried but failed
[23:21] <pie_time> aeon-ltd, uhh... no
[23:21] <aeon-ltd> pie_time: unless you meant the video player, not the site player
[23:21] <sisterdelirious> Hi guys. I am on lucid and trying to find a way to persistently mount my network drives?
[23:22] <balleyne> I'm having trouble everytime I upgrade firefox due to a symlink I temporary changed, /usr/bin/firefox, when I was using a Firefox PPA. I restore it manually each upgrade, but I'm not sure what to do to stop this error from appearing...
[23:22] <pie_time> aeon-ltd, yeah that would be pretty obvious seeing as the site player works fine in the browser
[23:22] <prayii> Jamie_Too: what did it tell you when you tried to connect? did it give a message or just never connect?
[23:22] <Reasinre_> ok, why did this thing auto-connect??
[23:23] <haytham-med> guys is there an irc channel for partitioning issues?
[23:23] <IdleOne> Reasinre_: what client? I know xchat is set to auto join #ubuntu
[23:23] <sisterdelirious> hmmmm
[23:24] <Reasinre_> sorry about that, yes it's Xchat, disabling now
[23:24] <IdleOne> Reasinre_: that is fine, you are welcome to stay and help out or get help :)
[23:25] <FloridaGuy> apt-get is Segmentation faulty tree and synaptic is closeing
[23:25] <sisterd> Hi guys. I am trying to find out how to persistently mount my network drives?
[23:26] <equex> i am using alsa mixer and i want an audio analyzing program called japa (can only poll alsa)  to poll the audio thats beeing played with audacity. thats supposedly how japa work, but it complains it cant poll  (error on capture pollfd it says) any ideas ? is this a problem with alsa ?
[23:26] <haytham-med> mmm4m5m: ﻿u can try this channel #lvm
[23:27] <Jamie_Too> prayii: just didn't connect.  Came up with the server's IP address, but no other messages.
[23:27] <mmm4m5m> ﻿haytham-med: thanks!
[23:28] <coventry> Sorry, should have said "This makes DNS lookups very slow if I'm NOT on my home network."  The problem is that every time the laptop connects to a network, resolv.conf gets the line "nameserver 192.168.2.1", even when that's not the right IP address for the local DNS.  It *is* the right IP address at home, but nowhere else, and I'm trying to figure out how to reconfigure ubuntu so that it puts the DNS reported during the DHCP
[23:28] <coventry> negotiation at the top of resolv.conf.
[23:28] <FloridaGuy> apt-get keeps doing seg faults and synaptic keeps closing..any idea's
[23:28] <prayii> Jamie_Too: i would just disable it and try connecting to irc.freenode.net - its the same thing.
[23:28] <zcfy> Could anyone help me with a problem with Ubuntu and Awesome and Wicd?
[23:28] <ChogyDan> FloridaGuy: try synaptic from the cli
[23:29] <FloridaGuy> ChogyDan, samething....no erorr mesage
[23:30] <ChogyDan> FloridaGuy: what version are you running?
[23:30] <frank__> where does gnome store my panel configuration? I did a grep RHi "*$argument_of_panel_item_launcher*" and it returned nothing
[23:30] <FloridaGuy> ChogyDan,  ubuntu 10.04......brb...
[23:31] <xander_> k this place is quiet
[23:31] <josh__> shhhh
[23:31] <haytham-med> no more problems :)
[23:31] <zcfy> When I run Ubuntu with Gnome, Wicd can connect to the wireless, but when I run Ubuntu with Awesome, Wicd can only do wired. When I try to connect to my wireless network, it says "linksys: Obtaining IP address..." for a while while and then it says "Connection failed: unable to get IP address". Any ideas?
[23:31] <aeon-ltd> xander_: yeah its night in gmt and neighboring time zones
[23:32] <thune3> coventry: i can only think that setting fixed ip addresses as a solution. (either through networkmanager or /etc/dhcp3/dhclient prepend domain-name-servers setting)
[23:33] <aeon-ltd> zcfy: well, what's gnome loading that awesome/(your xinitrc) isn't loading?
[23:33] <thune3> coventry: fixed dns servers i mean
[23:33] <xander_> do you have network manager installed also in the past they have had conflicts with each other i use wicd but not networkmanager no problems
[23:34] <balleyne> how can I configure update-alternatives properly for firefox?
[23:34] <ComradeHaz`> Hi all. Trying to install Ubuntu on a machine but having video problems. The menu to selct 'run live cd', 'install', check disc for errors' etc shows up but as soon as I select one of those the video output turns off. If I leave it having selected run from cd I get the ubuntu startup drums. Please assist! :D
[23:35] <Jamie_Too> prayii: I'm in windoze now, I'll reboot to Ubuntu and try to ping the server at least. Thanks!
[23:35] <zcfy> aeon: I don't know exactly what gnome loads. I know that awesome doesn't have a desktop environment, but I'm not sure of how that would affect it.
[23:37] <sisterd> Hi guys. I am trying to find out how to persistently mount my network drives?
[23:37] <sisterd> on lucid that is
[23:37] <balleyne> sisterd: via what protocol? ssh? samba? nfs?
[23:37] <aeon-ltd> zcfy: have you tried xander_'s idea
[23:38] <coventry> thune3: Yes, that is a possibility.  I would like to understand the basis of the problem, though.  Grepping for the IP address under /etc suggests that the resolvconf application may be the culprit.  (see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9858435#post9858435)
[23:38] <sisterd> balleyne: no idea. I'm new to linux mostly an osx user. Was just trying to figure out through the gnome desktop if there was a mount option. sym links are not available, and non-sym links don't seem available either.
[23:39] <kantlivelong> anyone know how i can fix the background color of the update managers listbox?
[23:39] <zcfy> I use wicd and networkmanager on gnome with no problems. On awesome I just used wicd. I don't know how to run networkmanager from the command line or at all. It just starts automatically with gnome.
[23:39] <sisterd> (my network is mounted already when I login... i didn't have to establish the network via ssh/smb or anythying...  theyw ere just there)
[23:39] <spreda> will todays SATA hdd  work with my UltraATA 100/66 motherboard?
[23:39] <balleyne> sisterd: ok, well, through GNOME, you can click Places > Connect to Server... and then it gives you a variety of methods. If you click 'Add Bookmark', then for future sessions, you can just select that server from your Places list and it'll auto-connect, remember the details, etc.
[23:40] <sisterd> I am able to connect to the network via ftp, sftp, smb, etc. without a problem. But I want separate folders from that drive set up as discrete folder access in gnome and can't figure out how to do it.
[23:40] <xander_> sisterd if you using gnome just goto places then connect to servers add servers ip etc book mark to load them at boot is possiable but i would search google for a script to do so
[23:40] <sisterd> ok. the bookmark was what I'm, missing. Thanks balleyne
[23:40] <balleyne> sisterd: that's via gvfs (GNOME virtual fiel system) I think, with the GNOME bookmark thing
[23:40] <xander_> darn was late on that one
[23:41] <sisterd> xander: if searching for a script, what do I search for to find it? (assuming "script mount network drive" would have too manyr esults)
[23:41] <sisterd> thank you balleyne
[23:41] <balleyne> sisterd: the other option would be to set it up in /etc/fstab, but that takes some manual cryptic set up (though you have more control)... the gvfs thing is easier to use
[23:41] <balleyne> sisterd: np :)
[23:41] <zcfy> Does anyone know how I could run network manager from inside Awesome?
[23:41] <xander_> i would search for ssh mount at boot
[23:41] <ChogyDan> zcfy: what does nm-applet say?
[23:42] <zcfy> Let me see.
[23:42] <xander_> zcfy sorry dont use awesome
[23:42] <aeon-ltd> zcfy: try in a terminal, nm-applet
[23:42] <Geoffrey2> what log would contain any error messages from when the system is shutting down...
[23:42] <ChogyDan> Geoffrey2: maybe kern.log
[23:43] <robert83a2> hello, I'm runing apt-get update on Ubuntu 10.04 , using the US mirrors, and I get the following errors http://pastebin.com/0rRegDie , are these normal ?
[23:43] <robert83a2> I thought that maybe because they are for paying customers or something
[23:43] <xander_> sorry gotta go brb dinner etc
[23:44] <balleyne> Geoffrey2: I think /var/log/dmesg might contain some valuable information... not sure if that's what you're looking for though
[23:44] <zcfy> Ahh, that works. I had tried nmcli and cnetworkmanager before, but those didn't work. Thank you.
[23:44] <aeon-ltd> zcfy: ok, does wireless work now?
[23:45] <foul_owl1> where is menu.lst
[23:45] <aeon-ltd> !grub2 | foul_owl1
[23:45] <zcfy> aeon: fantastic. Thank you =)
[23:45] <aeon-ltd> zcfy: your welcome, glad i could help
[23:45] <foul_owl1> thanks!
[23:46] <balleyne> robert83a2: seems weird... have you tried another mirror?
[23:46] <Geoffrey2> well, gnome complains every time it starts that my preferences file is already open, and I might be logged on somewhere else, which I'm not...I was wondering if that meant the files weren't being properly closed when the system was shutting down....
[23:46] <robert83a2> balleyne : yep the sr mirror
[23:46] <robert83a2> balleyne : sr mirror was by default, since I'm in serbia, I thought hey...maybe that is the problem sr mirrors are not so updated so I've changed to us mirror
[23:47] <robert83a2> balleyne : same error on all 2 mirrors
[23:47] <pasha> hi. i have a dvd which plays on windows, and a dvd player but not on ubuntu. it gets mounted as a blank dvd. any solutions?
[23:48] <thune3> robert83a2: i don't see any "translations" for en_US on the mirrors, i think you should be using the main repository listing, not a translation
[23:48] <balleyne> robert83a2: ah, strange. not sure what the problem might be, but for what it's worth, when I run sudo apt-get update on my machine, things are fine on the Canadian mirrors
[23:48] <robert83a2> thune3 : wait a sec, what do you mean, translation, I'm using a english system, I'll check ca
[23:49] <robert83a2> balleyne : I'll check ca
[23:49] <s_ongs> hello, i have random left click issues on lucid, can't find any solution on forums, anyone could help?
[23:49] <pedestrianentran> ubuntu 10.04 doesnt always recognise usb storage devices I plug in.... I have to reboot. Any better way of forcing it to check for a freshly plugged in USB memory stick or similar item?
[23:50] <myrkraverk> My power off button in the upper right corner is gone/hidden under something.  How can I get it back?
[23:50] <balleyne> pedestrianentran: no sure, I've sometimes had trouble with certain USB memory sticks, but sometimes `sudo fdisk -l` will tell you if it's detected at all, even if it's not mounted
[23:50] <myrkraverk> A screenshot is at: http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=1304
[23:50] <robert83a2> thune3 : I think you are right, same with CA mirror, I've installed a english system, I don't get this... what do you mean by TRANSULATION en_US ?
[23:50] <pedestrianentran> balleyne: ok thanks ill have a look at that
[23:50] <abadabad00> i am having a giant issue networking two ubuntu 10.04 machines
[23:51] <abadabad00> i keep getting "unable to mount" errors
[23:51] <FloridaGuy> ChogyDan, any idea's
[23:51] <myrkraverk> In particular, I don't see anything in "add to panel" that obviously it.
[23:51] <balleyne> myrkraverk: weird. if you right-click on it and select move, can you move it along to somehwere else on the panel?
[23:51] <ChogyDan> FloridaGuy: what about again?
[23:51] <balleyne> myrkraverk: "Indicator Applet Session" I think
[23:52] <xangua> myrkraverk: in terminal: killall gnome-panel
[23:52] <xangua> it should restart the panel
[23:52] <FloridaGuy> ChogyDan, apt-get seg fault..and synaptic closeing
[23:52] <myrkraverk> balleyne, no, I only get "add to panel, properties, delete this panel, ..." when I right click the corner.
[23:52] <myrkraverk> xangua, I just restarted the computer and it's still there.
[23:52] <pedestrianentran> balleyne: sudo fdisk -l seems to indicate that the device is not detected at all... however it does work when i reboot... annoying
[23:53] <ChogyDan> FloridaGuy: well, I would check dpkg, but then I would just reinstall apt, see if that works
[23:53] <myrkraverk> Ok, I've added the power off button, but now it's at the left of all the rest.
[23:53] <balleyne> myrkraverk: hmm, well if you have to add it to the panel somehow, I think it's called the Indicator Applet Session in the list of things to add to the panel
[23:53] <myrkraverk> balleyne, Just did that.  my right side is still "corrupt" though.
[23:54] <xangua> !panels
[23:54] <xangua> myrkraverk: didn't work¿ try reset the panel then
[23:54] <FloridaGuy> ChogyDan, kind of hard to reinstall it...when you cant install anything..because of it seg faulting
[23:54] <ChogyDan> !offline | FloridaGuy
[23:54] <ChogyDan> FloridaGuy: maybe that will work.  Try using dpkg to install it
[23:54] <myrkraverk> xangua, Ok.  I just moved the corrupt "corner" apparently it's my username thing which is corrup.
[23:54] <FloridaGuy> ChogyDan, how do i check dpkg
[23:55] <thune3> robert83a2: your failed link for repo is .../i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2 , it also looks like you may have removed the GPG key for ubuntu repositories
[23:55] <abadabad00> could someone help me transfer files on my network between two Ubuntu 10.04 machines? When I try to connect to folders that are shared for everyone on the network I get "Unable to mount location" "Failed to retrieve share list from server" errors
[23:55] <spitzi> Hi. Could anyone remind me how I permanently make a parition auto-mount at startup without nagging me for a password ?
[23:55] <spitzi> Using Ubuntu 9.10.
[23:55] <ChogyDan> FloridaGuy: try to reinstall apt
[23:55] <robert83a2> thune3 : ok I admit , I'm getting used to this system, how can I restore my gpg-key ?
[23:55] <FloridaGuy> ChogyDan, how..dpkg install apt
[23:55] <myrkraverk> Thank you all, my panel is sort of ok now.
[23:56] <LBo> Sorry for the question, but I can't find the answer
[23:56] <LBo> Is sun-jdk removed from maverick?
[23:57] <xangua> !maverick | LBo
[23:57] <LBo> sorry1
[23:57] <ChogyDan> FloridaGuy: any idea how this happened?  or when?
[23:57] <thune3> robert83a2: i have to bail, please ask channel
[23:58] <robert83a2> thune3 : thankyou
[23:58] <robert83a2> hello, If I was smart enough to accidentaly remove GPG-key for ubuntu repostories, how do i install it again using apt-get?
[23:58] <robert83a2> Ubuntu 10.04
[23:59] <chrisd`> Hi - how can I get something executed before any of the network interfaces are brought up? I tried using runlevels but it doesn't seem to work
[23:59] <FloridaGuy> ChogyDan,  installed the nvidia driver from nvidia web site..to have the latest...couldent get to run level 3...so uninstalled gdm...then reinstalled gdm...then after that...apt-get screwing up..
[23:59] <ChogyDan> FloridaGuy: so just to be straight, you get a flat out seg fault?          with dpkg try: dpkg --configure -a