| realmatt | is there a good batch ripping program for cds? | 00:08 |
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| rlameiro | did you search for it on the software center | 00:08 |
| realmatt | i searched on google and came up with a few but I wanted to ask everyone else for their opinion | 00:09 |
| rlameiro | sound juicer maybe? | 00:09 |
| realmatt | actually I found cd rippers for linux I don't think any of them were batch rippers | 00:09 |
| rlameiro | batch in what sense? | 00:10 |
| realmatt | if I have 5 or 6 cd drives in my computer I should be able to load them up and have them rip all at the same time | 00:10 |
| realmatt | for ripping my entire cd collection | 00:10 |
| realmatt | so i don't have to do it 1 at a time | 00:11 |
| holstein | i was looking into something like that | 00:11 |
| holstein | auto ripper kind of thing | 00:12 |
| * holstein checks bookmarks | 00:12 | |
| rlameiro | realmatt: i think taht is a rather unusual task | 00:12 |
| rlameiro | maybe some one made some script for it | 00:12 |
| realmatt | I've heard that there was commercial software in windows that will do it but I'd rather not go that route | 00:13 |
| holstein | the thing i wanted to do was a jukebox type deal on a server | 00:15 |
| holstein | just throw in a disc | 00:15 |
| holstein | it gets ripped however | 00:16 |
| holstein | and put where ever | 00:16 |
| holstein | and BOOM | 00:16 |
| realmatt | I've got part of my cd collection ripped and that part is in many different formats | 00:16 |
| realmatt | I want to do the whole thing in flac | 00:16 |
| realmatt | like 6 or 8 at a time | 00:16 |
| holstein | realmatt: i think it was http://www.frozen.ca/ubuntu-tutorials/6-automatic-cd-ripping-with-abcde | 00:17 |
| holstein | that seemed promising | 00:17 |
| holstein | realmatt: in theory, you should be able to config it to do as many as you got CD rom drives | 00:17 |
| holstein | i was going to be OK just throwing one in ever now and then | 00:18 |
| holstein | and coming back later and switching it out | 00:18 |
| holstein | but i wanted the backend to be automated | 00:18 |
| holstein | just put it in | 00:18 |
| holstein | come back later and its hanging out of the drive ready for another | 00:18 |
| holstein | and i dont want to run X on the box | 00:20 |
| holstein | im still working out a hardware scenario though | 00:20 |
| holstein | something that has a good spouse approval rating :) | 00:20 |
| holstein | i was thinking id be fine running mp3blaster in screen | 00:21 |
| holstein | having the audio playing server-side | 00:21 |
| holstein | and i can ssh in from whatever box on the network | 00:21 |
| realmatt | interesting | 00:23 |
| realmatt | so I'm guessing it gets the cd info from cddb? | 00:23 |
| holstein | i was running a http://sockso.pu-gh.com/ | 00:23 |
| holstein | server | 00:23 |
| holstein | my girlfriend liked that OK | 00:23 |
| holstein | and used it | 00:24 |
| holstein | but the playback was client-side | 00:24 |
| holstein | realmatt: im assuming you can edit the config file | 00:24 |
| holstein | and tell it where to get the data | 00:24 |
| realmatt | probably so | 00:24 |
| realmatt | I'm gonna give it a shot | 00:26 |
| holstein | COOL | 00:26 |
| holstein | let me know | 00:26 |
| realmatt | word | 00:26 |
| holstein | :) | 00:26 |
| jdrums | Having trouble keeping JACK connected to my FP10. Getting error: firewire ERR: wait status < 0! (= -1) DRIVER NT: could not run driver cycle after a few seconds. | 03:13 |
| jdrums | Can someone help me troubleshoot? | 03:13 |
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| dax2112rush | Do you guys know if fst adds latency like dssi-vst? | 04:49 |
| holstein | hey dax2112rush | 04:52 |
| holstein | im going to refer you to #opensourcemusicians | 04:52 |
| holstein | when im using JACK | 04:52 |
| holstein | i tend to just get the latency im expecting | 04:52 |
| holstein | regardless | 04:52 |
| holstein | but i dont to a lot of MIDI | 04:52 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: thx, didn't really know where to go | 04:52 |
| * holstein assumes you talking about an instrument | 04:52 | |
| dax2112rush | holstein: nope | 04:53 |
| holstein | audio plugin? | 04:53 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: I want to run guitar VSTs | 04:53 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: yep | 04:53 |
| holstein | what vst's? | 04:53 |
| holstein | are you using JACK ? | 04:53 |
| holstein | have you tried rakarrack and guitarix ? | 04:54 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: mostly Revalver MKIII | 04:54 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: yes with jack | 04:54 |
| holstein | you got some kinda wine thing going on with it? | 04:54 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: no, I might try them, but high gain sounds seems to be hard to do well, most commercial suites are not really good IMO | 04:55 |
| holstein | rakarrack is awesome :) | 04:55 |
| holstein | crazy fast too | 04:56 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: yes, I'm using vsthost in wine right now, but I'd like to try running them under some linux host | 04:56 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: i'll have a look, are there any sound clips anywhere? | 04:56 |
| holstein | hmmm | 04:57 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: found some | 04:57 |
| holstein | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9bIElOUOX4 | 04:58 |
| holstein | yeah | 04:58 |
| holstein | :) | 04:58 |
| LK | hello | 04:59 |
| * holstein did this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/osmp30.ogg | 04:59 | |
| holstein | in rakarrack ;) | 04:59 |
| holstein | hey LK :) | 04:59 |
| LK | I'm having a problem with exporting files in LMMS... I'm using Windows, but #LMMS suggested I try asking here for help, anyway | 05:00 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: seems quite ok, not sure amp sim is on par with Revalver MKIII, but I should give it a try | 05:00 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: thanks | 05:01 |
| LK | I made a clip that's four bars long at 140 bpm, and when I export it, I get an 8 second file, but the four bars only take up the first six seconds, with two seconds of silence at the end | 05:03 |
| holstein | dax2112rush: those guys are super cool too | 05:04 |
| holstein | transmorgramofix over in #rakarrack | 05:04 |
| holstein | i sure they are open to suggestions :) | 05:04 |
| LK | does anyone know what's going on, here? how I might go about fixing it? | 05:05 |
| holstein | LK: what program? | 05:05 |
| LK | LMMS | 05:05 |
| holstein | AH | 05:05 |
| dax2112rush | holstrein: I hope one day I'll be able to spare some time and contribute to some of those projects, I have a few ideas I'd like to try to make amp sims... | 05:05 |
| holstein | dax2112rush: dude | 05:06 |
| holstein | try and meet that guy ^^ | 05:06 |
| holstein | transmogramofx | 05:06 |
| holstein | really good people | 05:06 |
| * holstein is a rakarrack fanboy :) | 05:06 | |
| LK | ah? | 05:07 |
| * holstein is not super familiar with LMMS LK | 05:07 | |
| dax2112rush | holstein: I should, I'll try rakarrak soon | 05:07 |
| LK | oh, ok | 05:07 |
| holstein | from what i know runs both MIDI and audio | 05:07 |
| holstein | is this mostly MIDI? | 05:07 |
| holstein | what is generating your sounds? | 05:08 |
| holstein | LMMS? | 05:08 |
| LK | it's audio | 05:08 |
| holstein | LK: is the exported track playing at the wrong speed? | 05:08 |
| holstein | or is it just the extra 2 seconds your dealing with? | 05:09 |
| holstein | LK: hey, there is a #lmms channel :) | 05:10 |
| * holstein just checked | 05:10 | |
| holstein | lots of folk got soured on it i think | 05:10 |
| holstein | because it wasnt really working well with JACK for a long time | 05:11 |
| LK | yeah, they're the ones that directed me here | 05:11 |
| holstein | lol | 05:11 |
| holstein | well, whats the issue? | 05:11 |
| holstein | is the track too short? | 05:11 |
| holstein | playing at a higher pitch? | 05:11 |
| holstein | LK: what are you exporting to? | 05:11 |
| holstein | i would try exporting to .wav | 05:12 |
| LK | I've tried both WAV and OGG | 05:12 |
| holstein | same results eh? | 05:12 |
| holstein | interesting | 05:12 |
| holstein | LK: has it ever worked? | 05:12 |
| LK | all four bars are there, they just end at the 6 second mark, and leave 2 seconds of silence | 05:13 |
| holstein | or is this your first expot? | 05:13 |
| holstein | LK: OH | 05:13 |
| holstein | well thats probably normal | 05:13 |
| holstein | you can open it up in audacity or soemthing | 05:13 |
| holstein | and shave it down | 05:13 |
| holstein | i bet theres an export setting somewhere in there | 05:13 |
| holstein | lead out | 05:13 |
| holstein | or silence | 05:13 |
| holstein | something like that | 05:14 |
| holstein | ALSO, in ardour | 05:14 |
| holstein | it matters where the markers are | 05:14 |
| holstein | you set the markers for the beginning and end | 05:14 |
| holstein | and ardour processes whatever is in between | 05:14 |
| holstein | maybe the 'end' is 2 seconds out | 05:14 |
| holstein | further over that you want it to be | 05:15 |
| holstein | LK: are you creating a loop? | 05:15 |
| LK | yeah | 05:15 |
| holstein | yeah, id probably just shave it down in audacity | 05:16 |
| holstein | you can loop the playback | 05:16 |
| holstein | and check that the edges are cool | 05:16 |
| holstein | where you want them to be | 05:16 |
| LK | weird... this time it gave 3 seconds of silence... | 05:16 |
| holstein | yeah, thats probably just the way it works | 05:16 |
| holstein | its not really expecting you to make a loop :) | 05:17 |
| LK | have you ever used Acid Pro? | 05:17 |
| holstein | nah | 05:17 |
| holstein | ive seen it in action though | 05:17 |
| LK | that's what I want to put it into | 05:17 |
| holstein | how many tracks did you record? | 05:18 |
| LK | loops? | 05:18 |
| holstein | in LMMS | 05:18 |
| holstein | how many tracks? | 05:18 |
| LK | just the one so far | 05:18 |
| holstein | AH | 05:18 |
| holstein | yeah, im not a big fan of audacity | 05:19 |
| holstein | but you can record right into it | 05:19 |
| holstein | LMMS might be a bit over-functional in the wrong direction for what your doing | 05:19 |
| holstein | you *can* multi-track in audactiy too | 05:20 |
| LK | I've heard Audacity is like Acid, but for the very short time that I saw Audacity, I didn't see any similarity | 05:20 |
| holstein | but its not ideal | 05:20 |
| holstein | totally do-able though | 05:20 |
| holstein | LK: nah | 05:20 |
| holstein | its not at all | 05:20 |
| holstein | its more like soundforge i think | 05:20 |
| holstein | or when i saw soundforge | 05:20 |
| holstein | version 4.something maybe? | 05:21 |
| LK | I personally haven't seen anything like Acid | 05:21 |
| holstein | i guess if i wanted to do that | 05:21 |
| holstein | i would just use some MIDI program | 05:21 |
| holstein | rosegarden or qtractor | 05:22 |
| holstein | and ardour | 05:22 |
| holstein | you cant just willy nilly drop loops in though | 05:22 |
| holstein | i thought LMMS was like that though | 05:22 |
| xcfdjse7en | dont wana sound obvious here but srsly if you're on a Windows box .. why dont you use something like FL or something ? | 05:22 |
| xcfdjse7en | @ LK | 05:22 |
| holstein | xcfdjse7en: is that fruity loops? | 05:23 |
| holstein | is that like acid? | 05:23 |
| LK | you mean instead of LMMS? | 05:23 |
| xcfdjse7en | yup | 05:23 |
| holstein | which one is the one where you can just drop loops in? | 05:23 |
| LK | that's Acid | 05:23 |
| holstein | and they kinda just take up whatever space they need | 05:23 |
| holstein | regardless of sound quality ;) | 05:23 |
| holstein | although, i thought it did a pretty good job of it | 05:24 |
| xcfdjse7en | yea | 05:24 |
| xcfdjse7en | I've been working with it since the 3rd vertion | 05:24 |
| xcfdjse7en | probably the only reason why I'm still using Windows | 05:24 |
| holstein | isnt LMMS *supposed* to do that? | 05:25 |
| holstein | i really just havnet needed to find something with that functionality | 05:25 |
| holstein | we should have something though | 05:25 |
| holstein | *should* | 05:25 |
| LK | I'm using LMMS instead of FL because I prefer OSS whenever I can | 05:28 |
| LK | like I said, Acid is the only program I've ever seen with looping functionality like it has | 05:29 |
| holstein | wonder if its a legal thing | 05:29 |
| LK | no clue | 05:29 |
| holstein | its not like it cant be done in linux | 05:29 |
| LK | if there's a Linux program that does it, it's not cross-platform... | 05:30 |
| holstein | #opensourcmusicians | 05:31 |
| holstein | ^^ cool place to hang, and ask wtf is up | 05:31 |
| holstein | #opensourcemusicians ** | 05:31 |
| LK | think they might have a solution? | 05:33 |
| holstein | hmmm | 05:34 |
| holstein | maybe | 05:34 |
| holstein | smart guys over there | 05:34 |
| holstein | [lsd] is a MIDI guy | 05:34 |
| holstein | not really sure, its just a cool community | 05:35 |
| holstein | podshow and all that | 05:35 |
| dax2112rush | dssi-vst has a dependency on wine1.0. I've got wine1.3 installed that conflicts with wine1.0, is there something I can do to force it to install anyways? | 05:58 |
| holstein | hmmm | 05:59 |
| holstein | dax2112rush: im not sure about that | 05:59 |
| holstein | BUT it might be worth asking falktx | 05:59 |
| holstein | over in #kxstudio | 05:59 |
| holstein | he's not in right now | 05:59 |
| holstein | i konw he has worked on a lot of custom packages | 06:00 |
| holstein | and there is a PPA | 06:00 |
| holstein | https://launchpad.net/~falk-t-j/+archive/lucid | 06:01 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: you really know who to ask for stuff :) next time I have any question, I'll come over here to help me find an expert :P | 06:01 |
| holstein | hehe | 06:01 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: I'll check tommorow if he's there | 06:01 |
| holstein | cool :) | 06:02 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: he's got a dssi-vst package, I wonder if it has that same dep problem... | 06:03 |
| holstein | dax2112rush: i dont think so | 06:03 |
| holstein | it should be compatible | 06:04 |
| holstein | dax2112rush: there are a lot of updates in that PPA | 06:04 |
| holstein | and i recently added it | 06:04 |
| holstein | and use it | 06:04 |
| holstein | in lucid | 06:04 |
| holstein | but dont just go willy nilly installing any of the kx-specific packages | 06:04 |
| holstein | you can break things | 06:04 |
| holstein | falk likes the KDE | 06:05 |
| holstein | dax2112rush: i use PPA purge in ubuntutweak too | 06:05 |
| holstein | if things go bad | 06:05 |
| holstein | but, you get JACK2 in there | 06:05 |
| holstein | and newer versions of ardour | 06:05 |
| holstein | and i think he said patched RT kernels | 06:05 |
| holstein | for the proprietary graphics drivers | 06:06 |
| holstein | smart guy | 06:06 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: yes lots of nice stuff | 06:06 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: I don't know what KXStudio is. Ubuntu Studio with KDE? | 06:07 |
| holstein | dax2112rush: not really | 06:08 |
| holstein | i mean, yeah | 06:08 |
| holstein | but he's working on other stuff too | 06:08 |
| holstein | the pulse-jack bridge | 06:08 |
| dax2112rush | ie pulse's module-jack-sink and module-jack-src or some other bridge? | 06:08 |
| holstein | i dont use it | 06:09 |
| holstein | so im not sure about the particulars | 06:09 |
| holstein | bacially | 06:09 |
| holstein | with KX | 06:09 |
| holstein | JACK is running all the time | 06:09 |
| holstein | starts when you login | 06:09 |
| holstein | neat idea | 06:09 |
| dax2112rush | i'll have a look | 06:09 |
| holstein | i just use the newer packages :) | 06:10 |
| holstein | some of them have JACK support added | 06:10 |
| holstein | mumble is one that i wanted to use | 06:10 |
| holstein | with JACK | 06:10 |
| holstein | and i wanted to check out JACK2 | 06:10 |
| dax2112rush | what are the changes in jack2? | 06:11 |
| holstein | i cant say ive noticed anything yet | 06:12 |
| holstein | i mean, it still works ;) | 06:12 |
| holstein | i just did it on my production box though last week | 06:12 |
| holstein | and havent really messed with it | 06:12 |
| dax2112rush | changes are under the hood I guess | 06:13 |
| dax2112rush | I can't see his dssi-vst package in synaptic... don't know what I'm doing wrong | 06:14 |
| holstein | dax2112rush: did you update? | 06:15 |
| holstein | refresh or whatever | 06:15 |
| holstein | reload | 06:15 |
| holstein | i think thats the button in synaptic | 06:15 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: i found it... seems like he has a ppa:falk-t-j and a ppa:falk-t-j/lucid ppa | 06:16 |
| dax2112rush | i had the first one only | 06:16 |
| dax2112rush | his dssi-vst installs fine :) | 06:17 |
| holstein | dax2112rush: :) | 06:18 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: ddsi-vst works with my plugin, fst does not tho | 06:49 |
| holstein | :/ | 06:50 |
| dax2112rush | holstein: thanks a lot for your help | 06:50 |
| holstein | well, now you know | 06:50 |
| dax2112rush | i need some rest now! bye | 06:50 |
| holstein | dax2112rush: anytime :) | 06:50 |
| holstein | gn | 06:50 |
| Jim-_- | 869 | 08:14 |
| astraljava | You were sayin'? | 08:16 |
| Jim-_- | testing | 08:16 |
| Jim-_- | :) | 08:16 |
| astraljava | Gotcha. :) | 08:16 |
| prep | Having issues with printer, found driver that's near, but quality is less than desired. Found some info in the Ubuntu board, need help installing. | 15:48 |
| astraljava | prep: Where are you stuck? What info did you find? | 16:24 |
| prep | found drivers on Canon Europe site, downloaded .tar, not sure how to install | 16:25 |
| prep | this post gives instructions :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1163533 | 16:27 |
| astraljava | So you got a .tar file now, open resource manager, and double-click on it. You should be presented an archive manager, I suppose. Or are you terminal-capable? | 16:31 |
| prep | still learning my way around the terminal | 16:34 |
| prep | unpacked one, I have .deb file | 16:36 |
| astraljava | If you double-click on it, can you choose gdebi there? | 16:36 |
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| prep | Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: cnijfilter-common (>= 3.00) | 16:37 |
| astraljava | The instructions say it works only on karmic (9.10), which version are you running? | 16:39 |
| prep | Maverick. | 16:40 |
| astraljava | Wait, you only have *one* .deb file when you untar the package? | 16:40 |
| astraljava | Ooh. | 16:40 |
| prep | No there's a few, one for printer, and scanner | 16:41 |
| astraljava | So is there one with that name, that's not satisfiable? | 16:41 |
| prep | The Ubuntu repo pulls a MP 180, mine is a 190. Only gives me 600x600DPI printing, when it's capable of 4800x1200 | 16:41 |
| prep | yes E cnijfilter-common is not | 16:42 |
| astraljava | I mean is one of the .debs from that .tar named as such? | 16:42 |
| astraljava | If yes, then install that first. | 16:43 |
| prep | ok gave me the error after running for a minute of : Failed to complete install all dependencies" To fix this run sudo apt-get install-f" in Terminal window. I did, got another error | 16:46 |
| astraljava | What's the other error? | 16:47 |
| prep | E: Invalid operation install-f | 16:49 |
| astraljava | Oh, I assumed that was a typo. There's a space between install and -f. | 16:50 |
| prep | ok, running now | 16:51 |
| prep | what next | 16:52 |
| astraljava | Have you installed all the packages that came in that .tar? | 16:54 |
| prep | second one, the one i tried to install first gave same error, brought up Software Manager, but this time gave me option to install. The gave error: There seems to be a programming error in aptdaemon, the software that allows you to install/remove software and to perform other package management related tasks. Please report this error at http://launchpad.net/aptdaemon/+filebug and retry | 16:56 |
| astraljava | Doesn't look like Maverick is all too ready just yet. Might wanna give it a go a month from now. | 16:57 |
| prep | crap. need my printer for work. | 16:58 |
| astraljava | Work should not be done on a distro that's still during its devel cycle. | 16:58 |
| prep | like I said worked with MP180 driver, but only 600x600DPI, and it's always been that way, even on Lucid stable | 16:59 |
| astraljava | But okay, let's try it in terminal, screw apt-daemon. | 16:59 |
| prep | ok | 16:59 |
| astraljava | Open one, cd to the directory where you have the .tar. Do `ls', and can you see the .debs there? | 17:00 |
| astraljava | If not, do `tar xf *.tar'. | 17:00 |
| astraljava | If yes, do `sudo dpkg -i *.deb' | 17:01 |
| prep | .tar is in my downloads folder | 17:01 |
| astraljava | Okay, might wanna create a sub-folder or move it someplace else where you don't have anything else. | 17:01 |
| astraljava | If you wanna create a sub-folder, do `mkdir tmp', then `mv <filename> tmp/' | 17:02 |
| astraljava | Replace <filename> with the name of the .tar file. | 17:02 |
| astraljava | Then `cd tmp/' | 17:03 |
| prep | ok created printer folder | 17:03 |
| astraljava | Then `tar xf *.tar', and `sudo dpkg -i *.deb'. | 17:03 |
| astraljava | Alright, have you moved the .tar there? | 17:03 |
| prep | no, do I need to? | 17:03 |
| astraljava | Yes, by `mv <filename> tmp/', and remember to replace <filename> with the name of the .tar file. | 17:04 |
| holstein | you cant set the quality on the one from the repo prep ? | 17:04 |
| prep | Holstein, no 600x600 is the most the 180 driver gives me other than automatic | 17:04 |
| holstein | prep: did you try forcing another version? | 17:05 |
| prep | well it changes the name to the correct printer, how do I force another version? | 17:06 |
| holstein | ive done it a couple ways | 17:06 |
| holstein | but in the wizard you can | 17:06 |
| prep | reintalling 180 now | 17:06 |
| holstein | AH | 17:06 |
| holstein | astraljava: holla :) | 17:07 |
| prep | you running him off? | 17:07 |
| * holstein hopes not :/ | 17:07 | |
| prep | ok, when installing, ran "searching for 190" after I seleced 180 driver, then a window came up asking me to choose a driver again | 17:08 |
| holstein | well | 17:09 |
| holstein | when i have doen this inthe past | 17:09 |
| prep | printing test page | 17:09 |
| holstein | i have trouble shooted using up to 10 or so different drivers | 17:09 |
| prep | ok working as usual, so how do I force another version? | 17:09 |
| astraljava | Hey holstein. :) | 17:09 |
| holstein | i would just do it int he wizard | 17:10 |
| holstein | i want to add a new printer | 17:10 |
| holstein | here it is, and this is what it is | 17:10 |
| holstein | i forget how that looks | 17:10 |
| prep | the printer wizard?> | 17:11 |
| holstein | yeah | 17:11 |
| holstein | the 'add a printer' wizard | 17:11 |
| prep | ok, there | 17:11 |
| prep | shows my printer connected | 17:12 |
| holstein | yup | 17:12 |
| holstein | you can get rid of that one | 17:12 |
| holstein | since it aint 'giving up the funk' | 17:12 |
| holstein | and click on 'add' | 17:12 |
| prep | nah just lets me select devices, I did add, another one | 17:12 |
| prep | There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-not-found when trying to delete | 17:13 |
| holstein | might have to go to http://localhost:631/ | 17:14 |
| prep | got it deleted | 17:14 |
| prep | ok add printer | 17:15 |
| holstein | yeah, and just tell it its a different printer | 17:15 |
| holstein | there is also a place to use a different driver | 17:15 |
| * holstein phone | 17:15 | |
| prep | selected MP 220, still only giving 600 dpi | 17:18 |
| prep | under the 180 and 220 driver, print quality is off compared to recent | 17:20 |
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| holstein | prep: thats how you do it | 17:24 |
| prep | well weird thing is with my 180, least I was getting decent images, now total crap | 17:25 |
| prep | now 180 is crap | 17:25 |
| holstein | thats OK | 17:25 |
| holstein | you dont want to use that one anyway right?? | 17:26 |
| holstein | lets look to the future, when your printing at whatever resolution you want :) | 17:26 |
| prep | So how far from the original driver should I go? I went to the 220 | 17:26 |
| holstein | heres a good read http://forums.linux-foundation.org/read.php?25,9258,11952 | 17:28 |
| holstein | prep: i have literally tried 10+ different ones | 17:28 |
| holstein | at times | 17:29 |
| prep | Looking | 17:33 |
| prep | went to a 360, still stuck at 600, gee's | 17:34 |
| holstein | prep: did you have the printer uninstalled before trying that .deb? | 17:38 |
| prep | yes | 17:38 |
| holstein | hmmm | 17:38 |
| holstein | prep: lets go back to that | 17:39 |
| holstein | because there really shouldnt much different about karmic and lucid | 17:40 |
| holstein | OH | 17:40 |
| holstein | prep: your running maverick :/ | 17:40 |
| holstein | yeah, you might just have to wait like astraljava suggested | 17:40 |
| holstein | til it goes final | 17:40 |
| holstein | and go from there | 17:40 |
| holstein | prep: you can contact cannon and ask for a .ppd | 17:41 |
| prep | cannon who? | 17:41 |
| holstein | D'oh | 17:42 |
| holstein | i mean canon | 17:42 |
| * holstein is downloading the debian tar from canon | 17:43 | |
| prep | Are some printer brands supported better than others? | 17:43 |
| holstein | but i still cant test in maverick :/ | 17:43 |
| holstein | prep: some comanies in general are more friendly | 17:43 |
| holstein | but i think this is an issue of keeping up with changes | 17:44 |
| holstein | canon has a driver | 17:44 |
| holstein | and i bet it works in debian | 17:44 |
| astraljava | Still you can try installing in terminal if apt-daemon fails... | 18:16 |
| holstein | astraljava: dude split :/ | 18:47 |
| holstein | yeah, i think those .debs would work | 18:47 |
| astraljava | holstein: They often do... ;) | 18:47 |
| holstein | prep will be back though :) | 18:47 |
| astraljava | I mean the splitting. | 18:47 |
| holstein | 'i have a protools mbox and 3 minutes... GO' | 18:48 |
| holstein | lol | 18:48 |
| astraljava | HEhehe. :) | 18:48 |
| holstein | i was the same though | 18:48 |
| holstein | trying to get my firepod working | 18:48 |
| holstein | in the beginning | 18:48 |
| astraljava | Yeah, the thing is, not everybody learns. :) | 18:49 |
| holstein | hehe | 18:49 |
| rebirth | what is a good program for doing simple multi track midi arranging? | 20:50 |
| holstein | i think rosegarden is what most folk do | 20:51 |
| holstein | qtractor too maybe? | 20:51 |
| rebirth | what about ardour? | 20:51 |
| holstein | not yet | 20:51 |
| holstein | version 3 :) | 20:51 |
| holstein | coming soon | 20:52 |
| holstein | usually people use ardour and rosegarden | 20:52 |
| holstein | or ardour and something else | 20:52 |
| rebirth | it doesn't do midi yet? | 20:52 |
| holstein | not yet | 20:52 |
| holstein | really doesnt need to | 20:52 |
| holstein | but im glad to see its coming | 20:53 |
| rebirth | checking out rosegarden | 20:53 |
| rebirth | not getting any sound from it, i'm using pulse | 20:54 |
| holstein | yup | 20:55 |
| holstein | it doesnt make any sounds | 20:55 |
| holstein | you use whatever sounds you want it to control | 20:56 |
| holstein | any softsynth that JACK sees | 20:56 |
| rebirth | *sigh* | 20:57 |
| holstein | yeah? | 20:57 |
| rebirth | i don't have any softsynths | 20:57 |
| holstein | sure you do | 20:57 |
| holstein | zynaddsubfx | 20:58 |
| rebirth | and i don't really know how to use jack | 20:58 |
| holstein | yoshime | 20:58 |
| holstein | yoshime | 20:58 |
| holstein | rebirth: AH | 20:58 |
| holstein | yeah | 20:58 |
| holstein | JACK is key | 20:58 |
| holstein | thats when the linux audio goodness starts to really shine :) | 20:58 |
| rebirth | do you know of a quickstart guide of some kind? | 20:59 |
| macinnisrr | rebirth: if you want something easy to jump into without knowing jack, try LMMS or Hydrogen (or both). | 20:59 |
| holstein | rebirth: its really challenging to find a guide for JACK | 21:01 |
| rebirth | LMMS looks a lot like FL Studio | 21:01 |
| holstein | since all hardware is different | 21:01 |
| holstein | rebirth: what hardware are you using? | 21:01 |
| rebirth | an maudio ozone (usb midi device/audio in out) | 21:02 |
| holstein | hmmm | 21:02 |
| holstein | does it work right now? | 21:02 |
| rebirth | yeah it's working with pulse | 21:02 |
| holstein | cool | 21:02 |
| holstein | SO | 21:02 |
| rebirth | had some trouble originally but got it working | 21:02 |
| holstein | open a terminal | 21:02 |
| holstein | type | 21:02 |
| holstein | sudo adduser rebirth audio | 21:02 |
| holstein | replace rebirth with whatever your username is on that box | 21:03 |
| rebirth | i think i did that before | 21:03 |
| rebirth | it says i'm already a member | 21:03 |
| holstein | cool | 21:03 |
| holstein | open jack control | 21:03 |
| holstein | ALSO | 21:04 |
| holstein | go here | 21:04 |
| holstein | http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/ | 21:04 |
| holstein | so i can reference those images with what you looking at | 21:04 |
| holstein | rebirth: what kernel are you using? | 21:05 |
| holstein | rebirth: go to a terminal and run | 21:05 |
| holstein | uname -a | 21:05 |
| holstein | and gimme that here | 21:05 |
| rebirth | jack is coming up all grey | 21:05 |
| holstein | rebirth: you didnt start it did you? | 21:05 |
| holstein | dont start it | 21:05 |
| rebirth | no i just launched JACK control | 21:06 |
| holstein | hmmm | 21:06 |
| rebirth | nothing is showing up in the windows, just grey | 21:06 |
| holstein | well, lets move on | 21:06 |
| holstein | and hopefully that will work its self out | 21:06 |
| rebirth | Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-24-generic #43-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 16 14:17:33 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux | 21:06 |
| holstein | OK | 21:06 |
| holstein | in the main JACK window | 21:06 |
| holstein | screenshot 1 | 21:07 |
| holstein | on that link | 21:07 |
| holstein | can you click on 'setup' ? | 21:07 |
| rebirth | no i can't see any of that | 21:07 |
| rebirth | it's just a grey window | 21:07 |
| holstein | acutally | 21:07 |
| holstein | i got the incorrect link | 21:07 |
| holstein | http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html | 21:07 |
| holstein | rebirth: can you close it ? | 21:07 |
| rebirth | i relaunched it again.. no change :-( | 21:08 |
| holstein | OK | 21:08 |
| rebirth | it used to work, it must have gotten corrupted somehow | 21:08 |
| holstein | open a terminal | 21:08 |
| holstein | try sudo qjackctl | 21:08 |
| rebirth | i have to force quit it | 21:08 |
| holstein | did you tell it to automatically start? | 21:08 |
| rebirth | that worked | 21:08 |
| holstein | rebirth: sudo qjackctl worked? | 21:09 |
| holstein | lets look at the settings then | 21:09 |
| rebirth | yeah it launched correctly with that command | 21:09 |
| holstein | click 'setup' | 21:09 |
| holstein | and lets look around a bit | 21:09 |
| rebirth | ok | 21:09 |
| holstein | you should see | 21:09 |
| holstein | the 2nd screenshot at http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html | 21:09 |
| holstein | on the left | 21:09 |
| holstein | uncheck the box for realtime | 21:10 |
| holstein | and in the middle | 21:10 |
| holstein | what is frames/period? | 21:10 |
| rebirth | 1024 | 21:10 |
| holstein | samplerate 44100 ? | 21:10 |
| rebirth | yup | 21:10 |
| holstein | periods/buffer? | 21:10 |
| rebirth | 2 | 21:11 |
| holstein | priority default? | 21:11 |
| rebirth | yeah | 21:11 |
| holstein | cool | 21:11 |
| holstein | on the right | 21:11 |
| holstein | can you find your device? | 21:11 |
| holstein | in the screenshot | 21:11 |
| holstein | it says hw:0 | 21:12 |
| holstein | there's a couple of arrows to click | 21:12 |
| rebirth | i've got my ozone selected | 21:12 |
| holstein | to expand | 21:12 |
| holstein | rebirth: COOL | 21:12 |
| holstein | hmmm | 21:12 |
| holstein | bottom right | 21:12 |
| holstein | latency? | 21:12 |
| rebirth | default | 21:12 |
| holstein | 40 something? | 21:12 |
| rebirth | oh there | 21:12 |
| rebirth | 46.4 | 21:12 |
| holstein | the ver bottom | 21:12 |
| holstein | cool | 21:12 |
| holstein | that should work with your kernel for now | 21:13 |
| holstein | SO | 21:13 |
| holstein | save | 21:13 |
| holstein | WELL | 21:13 |
| rebirth | save a preset? | 21:13 |
| holstein | say OK | 21:13 |
| holstein | but go back there | 21:13 |
| holstein | and look under | 21:13 |
| holstein | misc | 21:13 |
| holstein | and make sure that 'start jack when launched' is *not* selected | 21:14 |
| rebirth | ok it's not | 21:14 |
| holstein | cool | 21:14 |
| holstein | say OK | 21:14 |
| holstein | and try starting JACK | 21:14 |
| rebirth | started | 21:14 |
| holstein | cool | 21:15 |
| holstein | so thats how it'll look | 21:15 |
| holstein | when everything is right | 21:15 |
| rebirth | sweet | 21:15 |
| rebirth | now how do i get some sound? | 21:15 |
| holstein | *always* stop JACK before closing | 21:15 |
| holstein | but lets stop and close it | 21:15 |
| holstein | and try to get it running as normal user | 21:15 |
| holstein | you dont want to run JACK sudo normally | 21:16 |
| rebirth | well i tried launching it not from the terminal and it's grey again | 21:16 |
| holstein | interesting | 21:16 |
| holstein | forece close it | 21:16 |
| rebirth | same thing happens when i run qjackctl | 21:16 |
| holstein | and open a termainal | 21:16 |
| holstein | and run | 21:16 |
| holstein | qjackctl | 21:16 |
| holstein | and see what the terminal says is going on | 21:17 |
| rebirth | brb sorry | 21:17 |
| rebirth | ok back | 21:18 |
| holstein | yeah, now i gotta do something ;) | 21:18 |
| holstein | .... | 21:18 |
| rebirth | it says Suspending PulseAudio | 21:18 |
| rebirth | ok | 21:18 |
| holstein | rebirth: you might want to pop over into #jack | 21:22 |
| holstein | and just say that your able to run qjackctl and start jack as root | 21:23 |
| holstein | but as normal user it greys out | 21:23 |
| rebirth | i will later, can we continue using root? | 21:24 |
| holstein | you have to start everthing else as root | 21:24 |
| holstein | i wouldnt | 21:24 |
| holstein | you can really mess things up | 21:24 |
| holstein | i bet you can start jack from the command line | 21:25 |
| holstein | and it would be cool | 21:25 |
| rebirth | ok i'll hop on over to #jack | 21:26 |
| holstein | rebirth: i would prbably try logging out and back in | 21:26 |
| holstein | or restarting even | 21:26 |
| rebirth | ok | 21:26 |
| holstein | but i dought thats it | 21:26 |
| rebirth | doing it | 21:26 |
| holstein | those guys will no | 21:26 |
| holstein | know* | 21:26 |
| holstein | the #jack folk :) | 21:26 |
| rebirth | holstein: restart fixed it | 21:31 |
| holstein | rebirth: w00t | 21:31 |
| holstein | who knows | 21:31 |
| holstein | if i was more savy i would know what to restart without restarting the machine :/ | 21:32 |
| holstein | but whatever | 21:32 |
| holstein | its working | 21:32 |
| holstein | thats awesome | 21:32 |
| rebirth | yeah | 21:32 |
| holstein | SO | 21:32 |
| holstein | in the 'setup' area | 21:32 |
| holstein | the settings frames/period | 21:32 |
| holstein | and periods/buffer | 21:33 |
| holstein | those are the ones we tweak to get lower latency | 21:33 |
| holstein | you might be able to get close to 20ms latency | 21:33 |
| holstein | but i wouldnt worry about that til you find a need to | 21:33 |
| holstein | now you can see and experiment with JACK | 21:34 |
| holstein | and routing software through it | 21:34 |
| rebirth | yeah i'm just going to be entering notes via the piano roll for now | 21:34 |
| holstein | you see the button 'connect' | 21:34 |
| holstein | thats where you do the routing | 21:34 |
| rebirth | ok | 21:34 |
| holstein | you'll see your sound cards in and outs | 21:35 |
| holstein | and if you start rosegarden | 21:35 |
| holstein | you'll see the audio ins and outs | 21:35 |
| holstein | and MIDI ins and outs | 21:35 |
| rebirth | shall i start rosegarden/ | 21:35 |
| holstein | just click on the + signs | 21:35 |
| holstein | to expand the entries | 21:35 |
| holstein | rebirth: sure | 21:35 |
| holstein | im really not going to be much help in there though | 21:35 |
| holstein | i dont do much MIDI | 21:35 |
| holstein | BUT | 21:35 |
| holstein | you can try #opensourcemusicians | 21:36 |
| holstein | and i would suggest that | 21:36 |
| holstein | because some people have other alternatives to rosegarden | 21:36 |
| holstein | rebirth: but your on the right track | 21:36 |
| holstein | if you open rose garden | 21:37 |
| holstein | and any softsynth | 21:37 |
| holstein | you'll see how to connect them | 21:37 |
| rebirth | ok i'll play around and see what i can do | 21:37 |
| holstein | and i think you can make connections in rosegarden too | 21:37 |
| holstein | http://wootangent.net/category/music/tutorials/ | 21:38 |
| holstein | these are some tutorials by [lsd[ from #opensourcemusicians | 21:38 |
| holstein | he's my MIDI go-to guy :) | 21:38 |
| rebirth | i'm getting sound! | 21:38 |
| holstein | w00t :) | 21:38 |
| rebirth | it's outputting through my laptop speakers tho, not my nice audio interface | 21:39 |
| holstein | hmmm | 21:39 |
| holstein | well, you should double check in 'setup' | 21:39 |
| holstein | in JACK | 21:39 |
| holstein | and make sure you have the ozone selected | 21:39 |
| holstein | rebirth: but i would just mess around in there | 21:40 |
| holstein | your not trying to get a clean signal into the computer right now | 21:40 |
| holstein | and the MIDI will be exported | 21:40 |
| holstein | SO the internal card will do fine for this | 21:40 |
| holstein | right now | 21:40 |
| * holstein gotta go eat | 21:41 | |
| holstein | rebirth: i think you got a good start on it though :) | 21:41 |
| holstein | BBL.. | 21:41 |
| rebirth | thank you | 21:42 |
| holstein | anytime | 21:42 |
| cannonfodder | anyone here use lmms? | 22:39 |
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