[00:18] new kpackagekit in ~jr PPA, please test [00:18] ScottK: sorry no time for that kde rev 1176110 tonight, maybe tomorrow night [00:18] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1176110&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1176110 | Disable Lanczos filter while moving windows in present windows. Thanks to the movement the change of quality is hardly visible. [00:39] Riddell, Are you really working on bug #635888? I have a quick patch to disable kate support, unless you are in the middle of something complicated. [00:39] Launchpad bug 635888 in vorbis-tools (Ubuntu Maverick) "vorbis-tools (main) build-depens on libkate-dev (universe)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/635888 [00:56] Riddell: did you added the packagekit patches? [00:58] g'night folks === DarkwingDuck is now known as SkyNet === SkyNet is now known as DarkwingDuck [01:53] persia: vorbis tools has been fixed. [02:06] ScottK: I pushed that "Disable Lanczos filter" patch in bzr [02:06] testbuilding now [02:06] lex79: Cool. [02:06] go to bed, see you tomorrow ;) [02:06] See you tomorrow. Thanks. [02:07] We should see if mgraesslin has anything for us on blacklisting tomorrow before uploading. [02:07] you're welcome, ok we will see. === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [09:02] yay. my Maverick doesnt start :( [09:06] I get a lovely little x reconfig box, and no input... no mouse,keyboard etc. Recovery mode doesnt boot either... [09:23] persia: I have no involvement in bug 635888, I think doko is confusing kate the text editor with kate the codec [09:23] Launchpad bug 635888 in vorbis-tools (Ubuntu Maverick) "vorbis-tools (main) build-depens on libkate-dev (universe)" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/635888 [09:26] I think you're correct. I also think that asac closed the wrong bug when he uploaded the same patch that I prepared (not seeing the bug against libkate, even though searching) [09:26] Sorry to bother you about it. [09:26] dantti_work: what patches are needed against packagekit? [09:34] * persia wishes harder it didn't take > 6 hours for koffice to fail to build :( [09:35] persia: drop to shell and continue fixes with -nc builds [09:36] apachelogger, Works sometimes, not others. When I change definitions of private members of classes, it's not always the case that things using that are recompiled properly. -nc works for most changes though. [09:37] Plus -nc still takes ~30 minutes to get back to where I was for the last failure. [09:37] well [09:37] better than 6 hrs :P [09:37] also changing anything in a file should make cmake redo the target IIRC [09:38] What would it take to split the package up? Would that improve life in any contexts other than trying to port it on hardware that doesn't meet minimum requirements for Ubutnu? [09:38] otherwise there is a bug in ko's cmakelists too ^^ [09:38] persia: I do not think it would be of much use other than the porting case [09:38] Then there's a bug in the lists somehow: I've had at least two cases where I couldn't figure out what the FTBFS was complaining about, and retrying it post-clean allowed the build to move past that point [09:39] if it FTBFS usually i is a missing file or so which can be fixed using -nc [09:39] It was after krita built, when dealing with some krita plugins [09:39] oh oh oh [09:39] inline functions maybe? [09:39] maybe? [09:39] inline is about the most stupid thing in the world anyway [09:39] * persia isn't really looking at syntax [09:40] well, if you change an inline implemented function only those objects in the target of the changed file would get the new function the others will most likely not get rebuilt and there you have your build failure :S [09:40] * apachelogger is wondering how the educated user debus rekonq javascript foo [09:41] *debugs [09:41] That's probably it then. [09:42] the educated user switches back to Konqueror [09:44] no [09:44] that is what those evil developers are supposed to do [09:44] but they arent listening to me [09:45] the stubborn stay with it, I suppose [09:45] ekk [09:45] but I'm not quite stubborn enough [09:45] now rekonq lost them scrollbars :O [09:45] ...everywhere... [09:45] holy smokes [09:45] lost them all the time for me [09:45] that makes google 100% more useless ^^ [09:45] until I couldn't stand it one more minute [09:49] aha [09:49] so [09:49] you go to the settings menu [09:49] there you select web dev tools [09:50] there you choose selector or whatever it is called in english [09:50] there you go to the resources tab [09:50] where you will get a couple of subtabs [09:50] amongst which is XHR (XML HTTP REQUEST) [09:50] and there you can track the xhrs [10:15] Riddell, ScottK: so what do I do with the workspace improvement? [10:46] hm [10:46] where is sput? :O === Mamarok is now known as Mamarok_FrOSCamp === Mamarok is now known as Mamarok_FrOSCamp === Squt is now known as Sput [12:25] apachelogger: It seems rather late in the game to be introducing such a change. Also do we know who owns kubuntu-art.org? I think adding an external third part like that would take some careful research (which you may have already done). [12:53] [muon] coles * 1176715 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/ (DetailsTabs/DependsTab.cpp StatusWidget.cpp) Proof-reading: - dependants -> dependents - added plural form usage for one message [13:08] ScottK: kubuntu-art.org is, just like kde-look.org and open-desktop.org, which makes me and Nightrose ediors on kubuntu-art.org [13:09] the change itself does nothing more than add the content listing of the kubuntu wallpaper section to the list of possible wallpapers [13:12] from the system's POV it is not even external since it draws the possible categories via http://download.kde.org/ocs/providers.xml pointing at https://api.opendesktop.org/v1/ using the api defined at http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/open-collaboration-services#categories to https://api.opendesktop.org//v1/content/categories which as we can see actually gives us access to every category available on any opendesktop site (such [13:12] as kde-look, kde-apps, kde-files, gnome-look, xfce-look...) [13:17] ScottK: also, that feature was requested by sheytan otherwise I wouldn't have thought about that to begin with ;) [13:18] hmm [13:19] someone ought to fix kubuntu.org [13:20] it says OK when you first visit the site [13:20] ryanakca: ^ [13:20] Sput is here [13:20] :) [13:23] bah...sorry for that [13:28] oh [13:28] no [13:29] Sput: server clock seems out of sync [13:29] almost 5 minutes ahead of me [13:29] ah yes, I meant to fix that [13:29] stupid KVM [13:29] cronjob ;) [13:30] apachelogger: we need something like http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2010/09/18/stripes-arch/ as our default wallpaper :P [13:30] sheytan: ^^ [13:30] * apachelogger had a suse vm on an ESX that constantly ran out of sync because the ESX had a bloody old 2.4 kernel [13:30] cronjob fixed this nicely ^^ [13:30] shadeslayer you mean the page? [13:30] sheytan: i mean the wallpaper [13:30] shadeslayer: why do we? [13:31] :D [13:31] I even have ntpd running on that box [13:31] apachelogger: because we seriously need branding [13:31] something i personally want in 11.04 [13:31] Sput: cron is supreme [13:31] apachelogger: just the wallpaper.... nothing else is required in terms of branding [13:31] shadeslayer: talk to nuno [13:32] i shall [13:32] if anything then we need KDE default with kubuntu branding [13:32] and quite frankly I do not know what that would look like besides having the logo somewhere [13:32] which I find super useless btw [13:32] I do not want a flipping logo on my wallpaper [13:33] I also do not stick wallpapers with logos onto my real wall [13:33] not the point...really [13:33] very much really [13:33] logos distrube the artwork [13:33] the point is that the user identifies with what s/he is using [13:34] sort of feels homely :P [13:34] and that is archived by sticking a logo onto the default wallpaper? :O [13:34] you bun too and osx must have bad design teams really [13:34] and yet the former one is so vocal that it consumes the planet all and entirely ^^ [13:35] apachelogger: no i mean we should really ship out a good wallpaper, ethias is foobar [13:35] what does that have to do with branding then? [13:35] also, tell nuno to make a better one [13:35] the first thing i do after installing kubuntu is to install kdewallapers and change to Emotion [13:35] * apachelogger would like something vibrant personally [13:36] default KDE is very cold IMHO [13:36] though that probably comes naturually with blue and white colors [13:36] apachelogger: i meant that a good wallpaper + some sort of branding on the desktop ( as minimal it might be ) works [13:36] well nuno will surely take care of former :P [13:37] i have already pinged him :> [13:41] wth is happening 0_o [13:59] Hey guys [13:59] you should know this [13:59] mine PC is connected with wifi and i want to share that network to laptop via eth, how can i do this? [14:01] sheytan: you mean theres no wifi on the laptop? === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [14:01] shadeslayer it is, but no drivers installed ;) [14:02] sheytan: broadcom cards? :D [14:02] shadeslayer yes, Can you help me with the sharing? :D [14:02] sheytan: actually broadcom released their open source drivers, maybe they have the debs somewhere... lemme see [14:03] shadeslayer it's kubuntu 9.10 [14:03] a bit old [14:03] but i will install 10.04 today === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [14:07] sheytan: no idea... ive never done it === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [14:22] lex79: pokey [14:22] lex79: after updating the network manager plasma widget, i haven't been able to connect to any wireless networks. the widget no longer shows networks in range, and wicd-curses won't let me connect either. sudo iwlist scan does show the available networks, though. [14:24] thats from #ubuntu+1 [14:52] ScottK: we have a problem in nm plasmoid [14:52] its fixed in svn [14:53] the issue is that it wont show wireless networks [14:59] shadeslayer have you found the debs? :) [14:59] sheytan: no :( [14:59] couldnt find any [14:59] shadeslayer no problem, i'll connect it to my router :D [14:59] but it's downstairs :D [15:00] svn diff here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/495902/ [15:01] ill brb [15:08] the nm-plasmoid works fine for me [15:08] debfx: works for me after a reboot too [15:09] shadeslayer: that diff contains only translations [15:13] debfx: yes.. thats what i noticed .. [15:14] seems it works after a reboot [15:14] didnt work on one particular boot... which is weird === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [15:40] Sput: did jeffrai tell you if he was disconnecting the core? [15:40] *jefferai [15:55] hi [15:55] Hello lex79. [15:56] shadeslayer: so nm-plasmoid works? [15:57] lex79: not for a few users on #ubuntu+1 [15:57] mgraesslin: Did you have a chance to look at the swrast blacklist question. [15:57] Working here. [15:57] (NM plasmoid that is) [15:57] Works for me too after a reboot .. [15:58] ok === Mamarok_FrOSCamp is now known as markey-frOSCamp [16:03] ^ lolwhut === markey-frOSCamp is now known as markey_FrOSCamp [16:26] ScottK: I have not yet done anything for KWin today [16:26] but it's the first item on my todo list :-P [16:32] Hrm, can we put colored nicknames on by default in quassel please? it would be nice... [16:32] also, anyone know how to update your machine from the live cd_ [16:32] ? [16:33] jussi01: live CD or USB? [16:33] live cd [16:33] jussi01: you could run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but it wont change the contents of the CD [16:34] maco: btw you live in NYC right? [16:34] shadeslayer: no, I want to update my installation on the HDD <( [16:34] ohhh [16:34] shadeslayer: no [16:34] jussi01: just chroot into it? [16:34] maco: oh... ok... [16:34] shadeslayer: just...? [16:34] anyone else who does? [16:34] jussi01: one sec [16:35] jussi01: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD [16:35] follow the chroot instructions [16:36] shadeslayer: shtylman is in nyc [16:36] and then you get the bash of your installed system... with root access [16:36] maco: oh.. thanks :) ... [16:36] jussi01: need alternate cd for that [16:37] jussi01: assuming your goal is to use the packages that are on the cd, not download new ones [16:37] jussi01: erm.. dude.. you want to upgrade to 10.10 ? [16:37] livecd doesnt have many debs. it just plops down an image. alt cd actually uses debs [16:37] maco: i might have a 8-9 hour transit in NYC on my trip to orlando.. thats why i asked ;) [16:38] ah [16:38] nigelb is apparently flying through my local airport [16:38] maco: do you know his route? [16:38] i didnt ask him... [16:39] doha -> iad -> orlando [16:39] hmm.. mine is New Delhi -> NYC -> Orlando... thats the easiest route i can find, the other one goes through frankfurt [16:40] shadeslayer: maco, no, Ive a broken install, that I think will be fixed with a package update. I need to action that [16:40] ahhh ok [16:40] jussi01: chroot then [16:40] shadeslayer: so how is that acheived_ [16:40] ? [16:40] i just showed you the wiki entry :) [16:40] jussi01: mount the drive "sudo chroot /mountpoint" [16:40] just follow the steps here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD [16:40] oh, hehe [16:40] jussi01: and then you haz root [16:41] maco: you need to mount sys and proc too [16:41] and /dev as well [16:41] well....sometimes. for grub definitely [16:41] * shadeslayer doesnt take chances with chroots [16:43] hrr... [16:43] complicated, as Ive a /home also [16:44] dont need home to do a package insall [16:44] aye [16:45] * shadeslayer tries making a zsync GUI [16:45] ooh, happening now >( [16:45] shadeslayer: thanks very much! [16:46] no problemo [16:48] shadeslayer: heres the reason why my machine dont boot... heheh http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/495949/ [16:48] lol [16:48] interupted upgrades ftw [16:56] where is the KDE stable releases policy kept? [16:58] * jussi01 waits for the upgrade to finish and be able to go back to kde... [16:59] shadeslayer: did you talk to travel agent? [16:59] nigelb: nope, im waiting for my passport first :) [16:59] you talked to the BTS one? [16:59] * nigelb kicks shadeslayer [16:59] yep, BTS [16:59] tickets are booked. [16:59] email? [16:59] email, yes [16:59] awesome... [17:00] nigelb: i just checked the AI site.. [17:00] if you call them it take some time for them to understand you and you to understand them :P [17:00] * jussi01 still doesnt know if he is going to uds... [17:00] shadeslayer: He'll give you options. YOu're supposed to chose the cheapest one. [17:00] hehe.. ill email them .. [17:00] nigelb: i know.. ill have a looksie [17:00] :) [17:00] nigelb: you already have your passport and visa? [17:00] * nigelb is really scared of visa. [17:00] me too :P [17:00] shadeslayer: I haz passport [17:01] filling up visa forms now [17:01] nigelb: everything is filled here :P [17:01] shadeslayer: how did you do that without passport number? [17:01] dude you should have applied for passport /before/ sponsorship [17:01] passport form will be submitted on monday, should arrive on friday [17:01] ah, tatkal [17:01] nigelb: your filling it online? [17:02] yeah [17:02] shadeslayer: yep [17:02] and i was refering to the passport form :P [17:02] dasKreech: I would have expected it to be here, but at virst glance I dont see it... http://techbase.kde.org/Policies [17:02] shadeslayer: I filled it online when I applied, yes [17:02] (passport I mean) [17:03] oh.. i might even get the passport in 2 days.. but im taking it to be friday [17:03] everything should be done till 1st october i hope [17:04] Once the visa comes, I'll start believing that I'm going :p [17:04] hehe... [17:04] nigelb: are you applying under emergency? [17:04] shadeslayer: nah, why? [17:04] ther's plenty of time. [17:05] nigelb: oh.. that way you get your visa in 2 days :P [17:05] dude! [17:05] theres a 21 day waiting period [17:05] didnt you know? :O [17:05] shadeslayer: waiting for what? [17:05] interview? [17:05] issuing of passport [17:06] shadeslayer: not under tatal [17:06] that is a emergency visa :> [17:06] heh [17:06] IIRC tatkal is only for passports.... visa's are called emergency visa's [17:07] shadeslayer: ok, you have now confused me more than enough [17:07] lol [17:07] what the heck has a 21 day waitin period? visa or passport? [17:07] visa [17:07] passport has a waiting period of 3 weeks :P [17:08] 21 days is for issuance or vfor interview? [17:08] (and which counsulate?) [17:09] 21 days for issuance... it comes after the 21 day waiting period [17:09] isn't that the processing time? [17:09] i mean is that called waiting period? [17:09] because it changes from consulate to consulate [17:09] thats what dad told me :P ... that your visa comes after 21 days.. lemme double check [17:10] um, no [17:10] * nigelb is in mpanic mode thanks to you [17:10] shadeslayer: I swaear, I'll kick you at UDS [17:15] nigelb: :P [17:15] shadeslayer: dude, now you scare me. I'm now reading of administrative processing [17:15] nigelb: my dad told me to look at the website.. hes smirking :D [17:16] im scared as shit as well... [17:17] nigelb: we will be under Buisness and Tourism right> [17:17] yep [17:17] I see this [17:17] Typical Wait Time (Workdays**) for a Nonimmigrant Visa To Be Processed****: 2 Days [17:18] nigelb: Apply Early! Although the vast majority of visas are delivered in a week or less, a small number of applications require administrative processing. Please do not make travel arrangements until you have received your visa. [17:18] dang [17:18] now what do I do :x [17:18] nigelb: thats from the new delhi embassy [17:19] shadeslayer: My only choice now is to call up the consulate on monday :x [17:19] shadeslayer: But, you're still getting kicked. [17:19] why? :P [17:19] shadeslayer: 21 days IS 3 weeks! [17:19] or are indian weeks 8 days? [17:20] hehe... [17:20] shadeslayer: can you see if power management works in system settings in your installation? [17:20] lex79: power management as in? [17:20] did you ever read the book The Enchantress of Florence? [17:21] maco: ive heard of it [17:21] shadeslayer: just click on power m. in system settings [17:21] Salman Rushdie ... [17:21] lex79: works for me [17:21] the american tries to convince the mughal emperor that time works differently in the new world because being new it hasnt settled yet, and THAT is how his mother lived 120 indian years [17:21] ok [17:22] nigelb: http://newdelhi.usembassy.gov/applyingmain/interviews-and-appointments.html [17:22] under emergency appointment [17:23] shadeslayer: I still think ours isn't emergency [17:23] emergency is in the case of death and you're traveling for funeral or something like that [17:25] * shadeslayer goes looking all over the site === markey_FrOSCamp is now known as Mamarok [17:31] nigelb: which tracks are you planning to attend? [17:31] shadeslayer: community + QA track for sure [17:32] hmm [17:32] that's the ones I attended last time too. [17:32] youve been to UDS before? :D [17:32] remote [17:33] ohh [17:33] there's really good infracture for remote participation [17:33] * nigelb had a good time last time [17:33] nigelb: btw in the email to BTS, you just mentioned destination and origin right? [17:33] hola [17:34] shadeslayer: Just mail him, he'll reply with a form [17:34] hola nixternal [17:34] * shadeslayer waves to nixternal [17:34] nigelb: done.. [17:34] nixternal: did you sort your problems with godaddy? [17:35] yeah, they were pretty good actually...I told them their panel and their shell config sucks and they listened [17:35] shadeslayer: My summary of day from last time http://justanothertriager.wordpress.com/2010/05/11/uds-m-day-1-overview/ [17:35] now if they do anything remains to be seens [17:35] nixternal: wow [17:35] seen [17:35] nixternal: we wanted them to put in a new person of php, just a minor revision and they refused to do it :x [17:36] i would like to know how in the hell they are worth $1 billion [17:37] nixternal: haha [17:37] shadeslayer: did you the diary milk silk ad? [17:39] shadeslayer: do you have the latest libbluedevil installed? [17:41] afiestas: the latest libbluedevil make kded crash, so power management and other kde services don't work [17:41] afiestas: do you have a patch for that? :) [17:46] yes!!! maverick works again!! :D [17:49] lex79: yes [17:49] * shadeslayer high fives jussi [17:49] nigelb: hehehe :P [17:49] * jussi hi 5s shadeslayer [17:49] * dasKreech so wants BlueTooth on his Motherboard so he can test bluedevil :( [17:52] shadeslayer: haha, the form is very funny. YOu'll get there [17:59] nigelb: erm whut? :) [17:59] also.. your wiki page is outdated :P [17:59] * shadeslayer wonders who knows qt here [17:59] and is free atm [18:00] shadeslayer: the visa form, you'll get there [18:00] I just finished my application [18:00] ohh.... [18:00] I'll apply for interview on monday \o/ [18:01] nigelb: awesome... [18:01] tell me what they ask :P [18:01] mgraesslin: i didnt need to do things to kwinrc. alt+shift+f12 turned compositing back on. dont know why suspended desktop effects STAY suspended across reboots though [18:01] stuff like, are you a member of a terrorist organization [18:01] shadeslayer: ^^ [18:01] lol [18:01] nigelb: really? :D [18:01] shadeslayer: yep, theres even more funnier ones [18:02] maco: failing selfchecks [18:02] nigelb: such as ? [18:02] known feature of recent drivers - started something like three/four months ago [18:02] shadeslayer: Are you participating or do you intended to participate in prostitution after you enter the United STates of America :p [18:02] nigelb: rofl [18:03] are there any russians? [18:04] ari-tczew: heh [18:04] nigelb: are you a russian? [18:04] ari-tczew: No, Indian. [18:04] :( [18:06] shadeslayer: dude, we don't qualify for emergency visa for sure [18:06] the vfs shows the criteria for that. [18:06] nigelb: I joined to #ubuntu-ru :P [18:06] hmm... [18:07] ari-tczew: Looking for Russians? [18:07] (unless canonical gives a letteer stating urgency of visa) [18:07] dasKreech: yes! [18:07] me too :) I've often wondered why I don't see more. [18:07] nigelb: ok.. but their site shows that your visa will be processed in 2 days? [18:07] I'm meeting more of them on identi.ca now [18:07] we will know how long it takes in some days :> [18:07] shadeslayer: yeah, if they don't need more processing [18:08] nigelb: aka "Your visa was rejected" :p [18:08] * nigelb kicks shadeslayer [18:09] * shadeslayer uses qtcreator as shield [18:09] * dasKreech breaks Qt with a Kommit [18:13] dasKreech: it has the nokia power up.. no Kommit can break that :P [18:35] ScottK: svn rev 1176787 [18:35] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1176787&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1176787 [18:35] but I am not considering backporting to 4.5 branch [18:36] mgraesslin: Why not? [18:46] gah [18:47] shadeslayer: did you ping me here? [18:48] did i? [18:48] dont think so [18:48] * Quintasan finds backlog too short to find out who ping'd him [18:48] I feel like importing some kdestuff and packaging it [18:48] Is this good? [18:50] lex79: Looks like http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/kwin/scene_opengl.cpp?r1=1176787&r2=1176786&pathrev=1176787&view=patch is the other change we want to -workspace before we upload it again. [18:50] If you can take care of it, then I can accept it. [18:52] shadeslayer: do you know if maxb said anything about future imports? should I associate kdeedu import with neon or kdeedu project? [18:52]