[00:40] <chuckf> having a major mental block here...how do I change the wallpaper in kubuntu 10.04?
[00:40] <phonic> Hello fellow Kubuntu users
[00:41] <James147>  chuckf: many ways... right click desktop settings... drag and drop a picture...
[00:42] <James147> click the cachew > desktop settings...
[00:42] <chuckf> James147: thanks, that got me there
[00:42] <James147> (might be configure desktop)
[00:42] <chuckf> I was looking under system settings
[00:43] <James147> chuckf: nah :) wallpapaers are per activity, so is easier to rightclick the one you want... also activities are under heavy development and dont have a system setting mudule yet
[00:44] <phonic> I have flash player issues... My Firefox browser plugins say no flash but kpacket and synaptic say its there.. please advise me on how to correct this
[00:45]  * James147 grumbles at flash and firefox...
[00:45] <chuckf> James147: good to know. thanks for the info
[00:46] <James147> phonic: does konquror find the flash plugin?
[00:48] <phonic> PS flash works on most pages but will stall the browser when right clicking the embedded video except when on ytube page then flash works properly
[00:49] <phonic>  I have flash player issues... My Firefox browser plugins say no flash but kpacket and synaptic say its there.. please advise me on how to correct this PS flash works on most pages but will stall the browser when right clicking the embedded video except when on ytube page then flash works properly
[00:50] <James147> ... if flash is working they why does it matter if firefox does list it in its plugins?.. it clearly know about it if its using it
[00:52] <James147> phonic: and the flash crashing is a flash issue... they dont like to support linux as well as windows so we get stuck with a lesser version :( its never worked very well for me either
[00:53] <phonic> yes but some pages I visit, firefox says the version of firefox is older than 9.0.4 This is not the case as it is version 10.01++
[01:12] <phonic> ?
[01:48] <phonic> Here I thought IRC community help would be faster than Forums BOY am I wrong I'll wait a little longer and see if anyone responds to this slap????
[01:49] <phonic>  I have flash player issues... My Firefox browser plugins say no flash but kpacket and synaptic say its there.. please advise me on how to correct this PS flash works on most pages but will stall the browser when right clicking the embedded video except when on ytube page then flash works properly
[01:49] <bazhang> phonic, 32 or 64 bit
[01:49] <phonic> 64
[01:50] <phonic> thanks bazhang
[01:50] <bazhang> phonic, stall the browser? could you clarify please
[01:50] <phonic> I thought no one was gonna speak to me...
[01:53] <phonic> Ok when using flash to watch embeded videos and I am no longer interested in the video one should be able to right click over video and select "stop download" but my fire fox just hangs for hours unless I terminate the browser and start again....
[01:53] <bazhang> phonic, you wish to dl them?
[01:53] <cfw> hello all
[01:54] <phonic> .... also on one page firefox even says there is no flash installed and that the version is 9.0???? but the installed one IS 10.0.1 from the repositories
[01:54] <Fanfare> Q: Is it possible to restrict a user to only use one windowmanager?
[01:55] <bazhang> phonic, could you answer my question? are you trying to dl them?
[01:55] <Fanfare> like user guest is only allowed to use session xbmc.
[01:55] <phonic> No not trying to download them
[01:55] <phonic> just watch or stop
[01:55] <bazhang> phonic, stop download?
[01:56] <phonic> Yes when one watches video online one is essentially streaming which flash call download....
[01:57] <bazhang> phonic, lots of extensions in FF? same problems with other browsers?
[01:59] <phonic> I thought the FF updates from the kubuntu repositories would be ok but the last ones obviously have stuffed up the browser....
[02:00] <phonic> So are my options to unistall and reinstall???
[02:00] <bazhang> sounds like an adobe flash issue
[02:03] <phonic> Wow do ya think!!!!
[02:03] <bazhang> phonic, pardon?
[02:04] <bazhang> phonic, are you using the 'square ' version?
[02:04] <phonic> Thanks for the ride around the merry go round I'm going back to forums
[02:09] <armando> hola
[02:10] <armando> hello
[02:40] <melkor> hello, in my launcher menu, the leave icon does not have the option to shutdown.  Can I change that?
[02:46] <melkor> Its odd that shutdown isn't a default option.  I either have to logout then shutdown or I have to use the terminal?
[02:51] <FireCrotch> Is there are particular service/process that has to be running in order for Dolphin to use ftp:// and fish://  protocols?
[02:53] <claydoh> FireCrotch: not as far as I know - ftp no problem here, or sftp haven't used fish
[02:54] <FireCrotch> claydoh: Thanks. I was just curious because ftp and fish are both broken on my Maverick machine right now
[02:58] <claydoh> FireCrotch: my ftp and ssh are fine in maverick atm
[02:59] <vbgunz> does anybody have a problem with disqus comment powered sites? Both in konqueror and firefox the disqus box just takes over
[03:00] <Xand3r> hey, my laptop is too slow for HD videos is it possible to decode the full video and the watch it?
[03:03] <Walzmyn> Xand3r: look into handbrake
[03:06] <JimiFiore> Where are the Pink Unicorn Ponies?
[03:07] <Xand3r> Walzmyn: thx
[03:09] <claydoh> vbgunz: yes, it is aweful tho it doesn't seem to be as bad in Rekonq
[03:09] <vbgunz> claydoh: I am so tired of it
[03:10] <claydoh> I usually stay away from those sites, I wonder if it the sites' code? having it in both FF and Konq seems a bit odd
[03:20] <Joolia> Hi! I have a problem with tabbed windows in KDE 4.5.1. When I click a tabbed window the click sort of falls through to whatever is behind the window. The tabbed window is visible and movable, but not responsive. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
[03:47] <marina> jj
[05:13] <FloridaGuy> is kde 4.5.0 ready yet....been useing it in other distro's
[05:14] <jmichaelx> FloridaGuy: 4.5.0 has been out for a while now in the kubuntu-backports ppa. 4.5.1 has even been available for a week or two
[05:15] <FloridaGuy> jmichaelx, how do i add kubuntu-backports ppa
[05:15] <jmichaelx> FloridaGuy: however, some have had problem with upgrading to 4.5.0. some have even drowngraded to 4.4.x again afterward
[05:15] <jmichaelx> FloridaGuy: do you ever look at the kubuntu website? all of this is right there.
[05:16] <FloridaGuy> jmichaelx, i wont be upgrading...im still ubuntu desktop...no kde yet
[05:16] <jmichaelx> FloridaGuy: ahh
[05:17] <jmichaelx> FloridaGuy: well, 10.10 will be out in another month or so, and 4.5.x will come with that
[05:18] <FloridaGuy> dont want to wait
[05:20] <jmichaelx> FloridaGuy: like i said, you don't have to wait. it is all available right now. just add the kubuntu-backports ppa, and 'sudo apt-get update % sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'. all there is to it.
[05:20] <jmichaelx> FloridaGuy: sorry for the typo, that should be 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[05:24] <DaveWM> how do i completely get rid of the kubuntu splash at startup, maybe at shutdown too?  i added "nosplash text" to grub kernel line,  but there's still a kubuntu thing that comes up short before the console login,  and sometimes it gets stuck on that screen
[05:24] <DaveWM> cant even switch to other vt's
[05:25] <DaveWM> i removed all the plymouth scripts from init.d as well
[05:25] <DaveWM> and uninstalled kdm
[05:27] <FloridaGuy> jmichaelx, im looking for the ppa repo right now
[05:31] <FloridaGuy> found for 4.5.0...havent found 4.5.1
[05:43] <jmichaelx> FloridaGuy: this is all the very first link at kubuntu.org. you should not have to be doing any looking around
[06:00] <FloridaGuy> jmichaelx, i clicked on this...   Packages Available for KDE Platform, Plasma and Applications 4.5.1 .... then ..  Software Repository Guide  ... and added....  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu lucid main to repo...and it dident put 4.5.1..it gave me 4.5.0
[06:01] <jmichaelx> FloridaGuy: that is the kubuntu-ppa. you also need the kubuntu backports ppa for 4.5.1
[06:02] <FloridaGuy> jmichaelx, this is the only other thing i can find...   ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[06:03] <jmichaelx> FloridaGuy: you are losing me. that is what i just said you needed to add
[06:04] <FloridaGuy> when its in that format like i just pasted that last..how do i add that one
[06:05] <FloridaGuy> do i add ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports just like it is
[06:07] <FloridaGuy> i guess add it like that and it auto puts the http://ppa.luanchpad.net
[06:10] <FloridaGuy> jmichaelx, does kde have a kubuntu-minimal....like ubuntu...or is it just kubuntu-desktop
[06:14] <FloridaGuy> never mind ill install desktop...then purge gnome tomorrow
[07:31] <hlshah> hi, I just started with kubuntu and clicked "remove permanently" rather than "remove" for certain packages in Synaptic package manager...Is there any way to reverse this or restore the default listing?
[07:46] <okapi14> Hi all, I have a system that hangigng at "loading Hardware", no other error. How can I find the faulty hardware?
[09:13] <albert> hi everyone
[09:13] <albert> i've got maverick beta installed and update, but i can't get any sound of it
[09:14] <albert> it seems to be problem of lack of a driver for my soundcard in the kernel ( but in 10.04 everything worked perfectly)
[09:14] <albert> or a wrong configuration of alsa/pulse audio.
[09:14] <albert> kmix shows my some 'dummy output'
[09:15] <albert> when i backuped pulse configuration folder in /etc/ and removed it, then i had alsa output showable
[09:15] <albert> but it didn't work.
[09:15] <albert> is anyone able to help me?
[09:18] <Zvezdichko`> can somebody tell me how I can kill a nick in use?
[09:21] <maitrey> hi guys, question. How is the situation around ati drivers, did it improve a bit with 10.04? I have ati hd 4350.
[09:49] <tom__> can i have a link to download Perl complete reference book....
[09:49] <tom__> i have tried different sites .... cannnot download from anywhere...
[09:53] <tomdavidson> hi. setting up computer for my 5yr old with netbook workspace (10.4 w/ kubuntu backport). i want to edit the "main menu" widget  to sonly have the app launchers relevent for a toddler... any ideas?
[09:59] <jussi01> tomdavidson: right click it, then click something like "edit menu"
[10:02] <tomdavidson> hi jussi01: if i edit the search and launch settings i have a main menu option... but i can only enable/disable a small handfull of launchers... ie, something like gcompris is not an option
[10:02] <jussi01> tomdavidson: oh hang on, you are on netbook interface, I was thinking of the normal kde, sorry
[10:05] <tomdavidson> np jussi01, thanks anyway... i might end up just disappling all/most and adding differnt widget. too bad becuase the effect and grid of the main menu is pretty sweet
[10:40] <mime1111> hello, anyone knows if there are any visualisations for amarok 2.3, thank you
[10:41] <BajK> is therer a way of making the failsafeX option in recovery start menu work?
[10:42] <BajK> because when starting failsafeX I end up in the menu that appears as well when X cannot detect graphics adapters "Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode blabla" and if I choose "run Ubuntu in low graphics mode for just one session" and press OK I end up back in the failsafe menu
[11:31] <_strog> hello people, i wanted to know how to increase the screen resolution of the system. And when i talk of screen i mean the terminals at ALT+CTRL+F1... etc.
[11:34] <indcnt> Hi, should I use kubuntu or kubuntu-mobile on an asus eee pc? What do you advise me?
[11:35] <indcnt> or is plasma mobile desktop for mobile phones and smaller screens?
[11:36] <indcnt> i found it here http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/beta
[11:36] <phoenix_> _strog: you have to edit some settings in grub
[11:39] <phoenix_> _strog: locate the line "set gfxmode=" in grub.cfg and change it with a compatable video resolution you like.
[11:39] <phoenix_> _strog: backup the grub.cfg before you start.take care
[11:40] <phoenix_> indcnt:what version of kubuntu you want to install
[11:41] <_strog> phoenixL
[11:41] <_strog> phoenix:is it like in xorg.conf?
[11:42] <phoenix_> _strog: like what?
[11:42] <_strog> is it like "800x600" for example? with the quotation?
[11:44] <indcnt> phoenix_:  I dont know, im asking for advise. I wanted to try 10.10 but there are kubuntu, kubuntu-netbook and kubuntu-mobile
[11:44] <phoenix_> _strog: example --> "1024x768x32,800x600x32,640x480x32,1024x768,800x600,640x480"
[11:45] <phoenix_> indcnt: for 10.04 use netbook remix, for 10.10 both netbook and desktop are integrated into 1 setup disk
[11:45] <indcnt> phoenix but i just saw this http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-netbook/daily-live/current/
[11:46] <indcnt> it seems it is another version apart from the normal kubuntu one
[11:46] <indcnt> :S
[11:46] <phoenix_> indcnt: i would recommend 10.04 netbook remix or if you want to use 10.10 wait till october 28
[11:47] <phoenix_> indcnt: 10.10 is in beta stage , do you want to try it?
[11:47] <indcnt> well i will try 10.10 in a new partition but as I see there are 2 options I guess, normal and netbook avaliable for download
[11:48] <phoenix_> indcnt: use the one which you gave me now
[11:48] <indcnt> i'll try
[11:48] <indcnt> thanx phoenix_
[11:48] <phoenix_> indcnt: enjoy
[11:48] <indcnt> many time i dont use kubuntu
[12:05] <wer_> Does kubuntu dvd contains packages
[12:05] <wer_> ?
[12:06] <wer_> like build-esential etc ?
[12:10] <Pliskin> wer_ yes
[12:15] <wer_> Pliskin: thanks
[12:15] <aze_> qulq'1  sait comment installé mozilla sur kubuntu 10.04 ??
[12:16] <bazhang> !fr | aze_
[12:17] <aze_> ubottu : merci beaucoup!!
[12:17] <Pliskin> aze firefox installer
[12:17] <Pliskin> dans le menu
[12:19] <wer_> Pliskin: would there be any diff in performance if I use 32 bit kubuntu on 64 bit PC
[12:19] <wer_> ?
[12:27] <Pliskin> wer_, I can't help you with that but some say it's a good compromise
[12:28] <wer_> Pliskin: that'll do :)
[13:40] <shadeslayer_> wth is happening 0_o
[13:42] <FloridaGuy> runing kde 4.5.1....going thru package manager synaptic...see kwin 4.5.0...dont see kwin 4.5.1 so what is kde 4.5.1 useing
[13:42] <shadeslayer_> FloridaGuy: try : alt+f2 > kwin --replace
[13:44] <FloridaGuy> shadeslayer, dont need to replace....im asking if 4.5.1 is still useing kwin...sence i dident see it in package manager for 4.5.1...seen it in there for 4.5.0
[14:08] <shadeslayer_> ...
[14:16] <HaDAk> is this where i can pose questions about the recent updates to KDE in the kubuntu 10.10 alpha/beta?
[14:17] <bazhang> HaDAk, #ubuntu+1 for that
[14:17] <HaDAk> thanks
[14:48] <markit> hi, how can I assign a name to an activity?
[14:48] <markit> I've tried f2, double click, right click...
[14:50] <^wizard> helloe anbody here?
[14:52] <^wizard> nobody here? :S
[14:54] <^wizard> can anybody help: how can i make my laptop auto shutdown when it reaches some temp?
[14:54] <odinsbane> morning.  Everytime I shut down, when I restart my screen resolutions are not setup correctly.
[14:56] <slow-motion> hi
[14:56] <odinsbane> Also is there a backports with kde sc 4.5 for lucid.
[14:58] <^wizard> seems like nobody here
[14:58] <^wizard> :(
[14:59] <fmagno> guys what is the oppen office channel ?
[15:00] <bazhang> #openoffice.org
[15:05] <odinsbane> ok I found the backports for the newer kde.  I still dont know how to save my screen resolution settings.
[15:20] <markit> people here seem all asking help, no one able to provide instead :)
[15:21] <v3nd3tta``> uhm everyone should be able to provide help, if he knows about the topic the user asks for :)
[15:21] <markit> anyone recalls what effects have been activated by defoult in 4.5.x and were not in 4.4? Now, after upgrade, some pc crash after login
[15:21] <markit> one more question: anyone using kubuntu with ltsp?
[15:22] <James147> markit: I think its unlikly to be the desktop effects, they normally turn off if your computer cannot handel them
[15:23] <James147> markit: I suggest you try launching "startx" from a tty (after stopping kdm)
[15:23] <James147> and see what it says
[15:23] <markit> James147: seems to me to remember that there are some problems with some hardware that tells kde "I can handle" but scrashes instead
[15:23] <markit> James147: it's a ltsp client... I could try with a live though
[15:24] <James147> markit: either way, kwin would crash, not all of kde (at least I think thats what would happen)
[15:25] <James147> markit: try launching startx from a tty anyway, it should give you more information
[15:27] <markit> James147: good idea, thanks, I'll fight with some other issues of kubuntu ltsp server now and then try it
[15:28] <markit> seems that using kde for ltsp is a sort of suicide, since is tested almosto with gnome and seems that kde people don't follow ltsp needs to make the system work smootly
[15:28] <markit> and is a pity, because GNU/Linux is multiuser, so everything should work smootly taking care of this important aspect too
[15:29] <markit> btw, do you know also how to rename activities by chance ?
[15:29] <markit> I've tried d2, right click but nothing works
[15:29] <James147> markit: what kde version?
[15:29] <markit> 4.5.1
[15:29] <markit> btw, 4.5.1 right click on the desktop has the option of recreate the default panel! I'm so happy for this
[15:30] <James147> right click > desktop settings > activity: "Name"
[15:31] <James147> markit: yup :) makes things allot simpiler... should also support creating your own designes... although you may need to know java script to do that :)
[15:32] <markit> James147: I've debian here and kde 4.4.5,  but in my kubutu laptop I remember you click the "cashwhatever" (don't recall it's name)
[15:32] <markit> select "add activity"
[15:32] <markit> then a big pannel appears at the bottom with the default activity and the new one
[15:32] <markit> with a strange icon like a "barcode"
[15:32] <James147> in kde 4.5.1 you name them in the desktop settings
[15:33] <James147> (create them that way though ^^)
[15:33] <markit> oh, no way to rename them in that stage? not nice
[15:33] <markit> thanks :)
[15:33] <markit> James147: are you a developer ?
[15:34] <James147> markit: I am, not of kde though :)... (yet... maby)
[15:34] <markit> :)
[15:34] <James147> markit: as far as I know activities are under heavy development atm so you should see allot of chnages in the coming reales
[15:34] <James147> releases
[15:35] <markit> I've not fully understood them... and I get confused with multiple desktops
[15:35] <markit> what I miss for my productivity
[15:35] <markit> is a sort of "icon" that if I click runs multiple programs
[15:36] <markit> i.e. when I do ruby on rails developement
[15:36] <markit> I need a termina, netbeans, and some dolphin instances open in specific folders
[15:36] <markit> when I spend my time online I need konversation, firefox and iceweasel instead
[15:36] <markit> and so on
[15:37] <markit> would love to be able to have activities with the "start related programs" icon
[15:37] <markit> don't you think is a good idea? :)
[15:37] <James147> markit: I think actitivies might be what you want (not in their current state though) since what I heard was they plan to make it groups "tasks" (such as programs)
[15:37] <v3nd3tta``> yeah. i would use it 2
[15:37] <v3nd3tta``> quassel, netradiant and amarok :P
[15:38] <markit> or at least the activity should have a "close activity" option, and recall their state (like kde does)
[15:38] <v3nd3tta``> or similar :D
[15:38] <James147> markit: and there are plans to make it start/stop applications in activities when you switch between them...
[15:38]  * markit googles for netradiant
[15:38] <James147> although thats just what I heard :)
[15:39] <v3nd3tta``> uhm markit "Radiant" is a Program to create Game's Levels
[15:39] <James147> there are allot of plans for activites as far as I can gather, so I would expect them to change rapidly in thecomming releases, and expand allot more into more usefull functions
[15:39] <markit> v3nd3tta``: thanks :)
[15:39] <v3nd3tta``> here for quake 3 and mods :D
[15:40] <v3nd3tta``> even if the Game is 10 yrs old, it works like a charme
[15:40] <markit> James147: maybe the problem is that is too easy to activate the activities, and not easy turn back or understand what you are doing
[15:40] <markit> so I'm very afraid of the usage students will do of them
[15:41] <markit> well, back to my server problems :)
[15:41] <markit> I'm fighting whith trying  to provide sane defaults
[15:41] <markit> for all the students... but I have to manually modify config files
[15:41] <markit> at the level is not overriden by kubuntu defaults
[15:41] <markit> a lot of "try and error" time waste so far
[15:42] <markit> also complicated by the thing that if I ask for help in ltsp they tell me "use gnome instead" :)
[16:02] <k0s> hi
[16:20] <markit> how can I edit /etc/kderc so I can add my own "defaults" that override kubuntu ones (and survive kde update)?
[16:20] <markit> I've tried to add a line like:
[16:20] <markit> prefixes=/usr/share/mykde-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/
[16:21] <markit> but seems that I've got that now not mine nor kubuntu defaults are taken
[16:21] <markit> maybe a url list with ":" separator?
[16:42] <odinsbane> Does kubuntu remember screen size/settings for anybody else here?  It seems like I might need to make the changes manually in my xorg.conf ?
[16:46] <James147> odinsbane: its a known bug I believe, (might want to file a bug report if there isnt one already), best way is to configure it in xorg, however you can use xrandr in a script and place that in kde Autostart folder
[16:54] <odinsbane> How would I run krandrtray on startup?
[16:55] <tsimpson> !autostart | odinsbane
[16:56] <James147> odinsbane: ^^ although normally it should be started at login anyway (most programs are by default)
[17:08] <melkor> I like the look of kde, but having to redo my screen resolution every time I log in is to much.  Maybe Ill give it another try when that bug is fixed.
[17:09] <James147> odinsbane: it shouldnt be to hard to set it up with xorg
[17:10] <James147> odinsbane: that way you should also get the right resalution in kdm
[17:10] <odinsbane> I'm using gdm since I was just trying out kubuntu.
[17:11] <James147> is it at the right resalution?
[17:11] <odinsbane> no, it doesn't really bother me though.
[17:12] <odinsbane> I tried the kde desktop at work, on a faster computer and it was really smooth, on my laptop with multiple displays it wasn't so smooth.  Ill just stick to gnome for now.
[17:13] <James147> odinsbane: btw, what version of kde?
[17:13] <theconartist> on my laptop with multiple displays?
[17:14] <odinsbane> I tried the default that comes with 10.04, and I tried the 4.5.1 from the backports.
[17:14] <theconartist> did you disable desktop effects?
[17:14] <odinsbane> theconartist: no
[17:14] <theconartist> well thats your problem
[17:14] <theconartist> they are disabled in gnome
[17:15] <odinsbane> theconartist: I have desktop effects.
[17:15] <theconartist> liar liar pants on fire
[17:15] <James147> theconartist: desktop effects have nothing to do with resalution
[17:15] <theconartist> i guess he said more before i joined
[17:15] <James147> (which was the orignal problem)
[17:15] <odinsbane> theconartist: part of the problem is I have ubuntu and I'm trying to run kde, so I can't tell if some of these are real bugs or because I am just trying it out.
[17:16] <James147> odinsbane: if you have kubuntu-desktop installed then that is prity much what you would get if you installed kubuntu from cd
[17:16] <odinsbane> The screen resolution seems to be a known bug, with two fixes: I tried one that didn't work.
[17:17] <theconartist> is there any downside to to installing using the -desktop iso then installing kubuntu-netbook after?
[17:18] <odinsbane> James147: Ill probably wait until I reinstall ubuntu again to give kde a try.  It looks great.
[17:18] <theconartist> yea odinsbane
[17:18] <theconartist> once 10.10 is finished it will be perfect
[17:19] <James147> theconartist: increased disk usage... otherwise no (note that in maverick they are being murged into one image so you will have both installed bydefault there)
[17:19] <theconartist> and 2011 will be the year of the linux desktop
[17:19] <James147> theconartist: people have been saying tyhat for years :)
[17:19] <theconartist> well thats what im installing James147 so i guess thats good
[17:19] <theconartist> ya it was a joke :<
[17:22] <dasKreech> odinsbane: Did you try krandrtray?
[17:24] <dasKreech> James147: to clarify. You mean Kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-netbook ? Not Kubuntu and Ubuntu ?
[17:25] <James147> dasKreech: being merged? I mean kubuntu-netbook and -desktop
[17:25] <dasKreech> ok
[17:25] <dasKreech> Whew
[17:25] <James147> (no way they can merge gnome and kde on one cd :D )
[17:25] <dasKreech> James147: They can barely put gnome on one CD
[17:26]  * dasKreech votes that they have a BluRay Image
[17:26] <odinsbane> dasKreech: Thats what I tried.  I didn't want to get into doing the xsettings.
[17:26] <James147> dasKreech: lol, do they really need that much? the dvd image dosnt get used that often :)
[17:27] <dasKreech> James147: Think of the possibilites :)
[17:27] <James147> dasKreech: think of the wasted bandwidth  :D
[17:27] <dasKreech> You could keep a copy of Windows on it so people can test Wubi in a live cd :)
[17:27] <odinsbane> that was awesome I just uninstalled everything.  gnome & kde, slowly my desktop is desolving sorta like the neverending story.
[17:27] <dasKreech> odinsbane: yep I've uninstalled X while running it
[17:27] <dasKreech> It's quite fun to see what's cached and what's now
[17:27] <dasKreech> Not
[17:30] <Walzmyn> What I'd prefer is an image made to go on an SD card
[17:30] <dasKreech> Walzmyn: Isn't that all images?
[17:31] <Walzmyn> dasKreech: well, I mean a little broader. I've no use for my optical drive other than installing my OS. I'd like to switch EVERYTHING to SD cards
[17:32] <James147> Walzmyn: I tend to install teh cd image to a usb flash drive and use that to install kubuntu... havnt used my optical drives in a very long time
[17:32] <James147> !usb
[17:33] <Walzmyn> dangit. Flash keeps crashing as I'm trying to watch ESPN's feed
[17:33] <odinsbane> Walzmyn: are you using 'square'
[17:34] <Walzmyn> is that the new beta? odinsbane
[17:34] <dasKreech> Walzmyn: yes but you can write all the images to an SD card anyway
[17:34] <odinsbane> Walzmyn: yes
[17:34] <Walzmyn> dasKreech: i'm probably going to start doing that now that I have an extra 2gb card laying around
[17:35] <Walzmyn> odinsbane: no. I'm leary of flash, i'm real leary of flash beta
[17:35]  * dasKreech doesn't have flash installed
[17:35] <theconartist> well that sucks
[17:36] <Walzmyn> although it is nice to see that the company holding the entire interwebs hostage has finally decided to build their app for 64bit computers
[17:36] <theconartist> brb
[17:36] <dasKreech> I'm not sure how they are holding anyone hostage
[17:36] <Walzmyn> odinsbane: will installing square replace my current install, or go in beside it?
[17:36] <dasKreech> it's a choice to use Flash
[17:36] <dasKreech> one that has to be made conciously trained for and then paid for
[17:37] <Walzmyn> dasKreech: yeah, it's ESPN's choice, not mine
[17:37] <odinsbane> Walzmyn: I don't know how you installed flash isnt it just a .so file that you put in your plugins folder?
[17:37] <dasKreech> Oh well yeah write an angry letter
[17:37] <Walzmyn> odinsbane: i've no idea. I just installed it from apt
[17:37] <dasKreech> Or better yet ask them with great enthusiasm and shining eyes if you can please please please be part of the testing for the HTML5 website they are doing
[17:38] <dasKreech> You ARE doing HTML5 as a replacement right ESPN? Right?
[17:38]  * Walzmyn laughs
[17:40] <odinsbane> They put all these little features on their stream but it'd be really nice if it just streamed the station.
[18:08] <mushroom> Guten Abend zusammen.
[18:08] <dasKreech> gten tag
[18:08] <dasKreech> guten
[18:08] <mushroom> Kann mir jemand bzgl einer Netzwerkeinrichtung helfen?
[18:08] <dasKreech> !de
[18:09] <mushroom> lol thank you @ ubottu
[18:18] <Walzmyn> ht eitem in Apt for Flash is "flash-installer" if I uninstall that, is it going to remove flash itself?
[18:19] <dasKreech> Probably not
[18:20] <dasKreech> that's an automated installer that grabs the flash files. unless it lists those files as part of it's package then they will be removed
[18:20] <Walzmyn> how do I get rid of it? The new beta says to remove old installs before installing the new one
[18:21] <Walzmyn> dasKreech: yeah, I was looking through the installed files, don't look like it's going to actualy remove flash
[18:22] <Walzmyn> I needa reboot after update. see y'all
[18:26] <tjingboem> xorg eats 28% of my CPU. how can i reduse this?
[18:26] <tjingboem> reduce
[18:27] <dasKreech> tjingboem: New drivers?
[18:27] <dasKreech> turn off compositing etc
[18:27] <tjingboem> wher do i do that?
[18:28] <dasKreech> Ctrl+Shift=F12
[18:28] <dasKreech> s/=/+
[18:30] <tjingboem> Ctrl+Shift+F12 does not work
[18:31] <dasKreech> Do you have desktop effects turned on?
[18:32] <tjingboem> i guess so dasKreech
[18:32] <tjingboem> where can i shut it down?
[18:32] <dasKreech> Alt+F3 -> configure Window behaviour
[18:33] <tjingboem> Alt+F3 takes me to my 3 desktop :)
[18:33] <dasKreech> lol Ok
[18:34] <tjingboem> i am looking for sustem settings or the like
[18:34] <dasKreech> Horya for customization
[18:34] <tjingboem> :)
[18:34] <dasKreech> Click the icon on the top right of your application and choose configure window behaviour
[18:35] <tjingboem> bingo!
[18:35] <Walzmyn> what's the command to update the 'locate' database?
[18:36] <dasKreech> updatedb
[18:36] <Walzmyn> dasKreech: that's all?
[18:36] <dasKreech> sudo?
[18:37] <Walzmyn> I was just expecting the word locate in there somewhere, thanks
[18:44] <Guest3111> selam
[18:44] <Guest3111> türkey
[18:44] <Guest3111> hello
[18:45] <dasKreech> Hello
[18:45] <Guest3111> turkey kanal
[18:45] <Guest3111> ırc turkey canal
[18:46] <Guest3111> grup file not edit
[18:47] <Guest3111> grup file  nasıl düzenlenir
[18:53] <BajK> how can I make Kubuntu only play sound oin my headset but not on the regular speakers?
[19:02] <dasKreech> !cli
[19:04] <James147> dasKreech: ^^
[19:05] <dasKreech> James147: yes?
[19:05] <James147> just wondering why you prompted that :) didnt think you would need it
[19:06] <dasKreech> Doesn't mean others don't :)
[19:07] <James147> :D
[19:07] <daved92pol1> hello every1
[19:16] <sogreg> having a problem with my wireless card. new to linux and trying to get all the specific drivers i need. found some but its telling me i need to build them and i confused as to where to start. http://paste.ubuntu.com/495666/
[19:19] <James147> sogreg: what problem are you having? I thourght all intel cards just worked in kubuntu :) (at least the drivers)
[19:20] <tomdavidson> hi, anyone know know to add mozilla prism apps to the main menu?
[19:20] <sogreg> james147: im getting disconnected randomly and i have to restart my wireless card to get access back, i cant ping the router when it happens and other computers on the network are working fine
[19:20] <James147> tomdavidson: rick click teh kmenu > edit menu (or run kmenuedit from krunner or terminal)
[19:23] <tomdavidson> hi James147, sure and thanks. i can edit the kmenu, but i do not quite grasp the prism app
[19:25] <James147> sogreg:  so the drivers are working... at least initally... hmm... havent see that behaviour before... (I assume you have a decent signal strength), you could try using wicd (installing it will replace network-manager) or the gnome applet instead (knetworkmanager still has a few kinks, trying wicd should tell you if its network-manager or the drivers )
[19:26] <tomdavidson> there is the desktop shortcut, but i do not want a buch of apps in my desktop folder...  in ~/.prism/ there are folders for each app, but nothing that loos like an excutable or scritp to add to kmenu
[19:26] <James147> tomdavidson: not fimular with that app, what dont you 'grasp' about it?
[19:26] <sogreg> james147: thank you very much, ill give that a try
[19:28] <James147> tomdavidson: *.desktop files are created by kmenuedit... (they are plane text files the describe the applications, you should be able to open it in kate to find out where the executable is)
[19:28] <James147> tomdavidson: or you could move the *.desktop file to one of the locations kmenuedit looks at
[19:29] <Jimini> hi there. atm i am trying to install kubuntu, but i'm having trouble with my sata-hdd - the installer simply does not recognize it. my mainboard uses the ICH7-sata-controller. suse and gentoo have no problems with recognizing my hdds. i've tried the normal installation cd and the alternate installation cd
[19:29] <Jimini> if i open a shell and take a look at /dev/sda with fdisk, it is recognized as expected. any ideas?
[19:29] <tomdavidson> James147:  ahhhh just but the exec line in to a kmenu entry? i got it now. thanks.
[19:31] <James147> tomdavidson: every enrty in kmenu is a *.desktop file :) the aplication that is run when you click on it is on the "exec=" line
[19:33] <James147> Jimini: does it give an erropr when yoiu try to install? for is just not listing the device?
[19:34] <Jimini> James147: it does not list any devices
[19:34] <Jimini> first i thought of a kernel problem - but then i should not be able to "use" the disk in a shell
[19:34] <Jimini> j #gentoo
[19:35] <Jimini> sorry for the typo
[19:35] <James147> Jimini: weird, never seen the installation not list a device thats listed in /dev
[19:35] <Jimini> James147: me too :\
[19:35] <Jimini> i've tried THREE installation-cds now
[19:36]  * James147 prefures to use flash sticks :)
[19:36] <Jimini> James147 i don't care about the number of cds i've burnt ;) it's just frustrating
[19:37] <James147> Jimini: :) sorry I cant be more helpful... have no idea whats going wrong
[19:37] <Jimini> otherwise i could try to use an ide-hdd, but that would be just a workaround
[19:38] <James147> Jimini: not sure if its sata releated, I have had no problems with them
[19:38] <Jimini> James147 nevermind, thanks for your effort though
[19:38] <Jimini> James147: i've set up (k)ubuntu on a number of sata-discs yet
[19:39] <James147> Jimini: and it work (or doesnt) on them?
[19:39] <Jimini> hehe, it worked
[19:40] <BajK> is there a way of disabling kde's annoying behavior of guessing file types by file name extension? (the same shit windows does)
[19:41] <James147> BajK: ... its the quickest way of telling
[19:41] <BajK> James147: i don't care
[19:41] <BajK> I just dont want that
[19:41] <BajK> it knows the filetype without extension, so why does it try guesing if there is one?
[19:41] <James147> BajK: what problems is it causing?
[19:41] <BajK> James147: i hate them, it looks bad and they are unneccessary
[19:42] <James147> BajK: they are needed by some programs...
[19:42] <James147> BajK: kde or not
[19:43] <BajK> James147: you mean bad applications whose developers were too lazy implementing a file()-check? It's not about .config files or .20 in udev or something, it's just about .jpg, .pdf and such that I want those files without that stuff
[19:43] <BajK> I don'T want a file called "Queen - Innuendo.ogg but "Queen - Innuendo" and not just hiding that
[19:44] <BajK> is there no way of disabling that first-check-extension-then-filetype check?
[19:44] <tsimpson> I suggest you ask in #kde (and perhaps a little politer than you did in here)
[19:44] <James147> BajK: last I checked kde managed things like that...
[19:45] <James147> (just renamed a *.mp3 to * and it worked
[19:45] <BajK> James147: but if you rename it to .jpg
[19:45] <BajK> it thinkgs they are jpg
[19:45] <BajK> although they are not
[19:46] <James147> same, it opens in the chosen app
[19:46] <James147> (for that file type
[19:46] <James147> )
[19:47] <James147> sorry, that was renaming a *.jpg to *)
[19:48] <James147> but renaming a *.mp3 to *.jpg causes problems.... although why would you do that?
[19:50] <James147> BajK: personally I dont see a problem here... if a file has an extenstion kde (and I presume linux) uses that, if it dosent then it finds out... so if you want to rename all your *.ogg to * it should have no problem with that but if you rename them to *.jpg... i have to ask why are you doing that?
[20:01] <BajK> James147: it's about the general term that file extensions are stupid and not about that renaming it to xyz is stupid
[20:01] <BajK> I know that I don't need to give my files an extensions - which I don't do - but if someone with windows sends me a file it automatically determins its type by extension
[20:34] <theconartist> how do i make my wireless auto-connect?
[20:35] <theconartist> or connect at all?
[20:35] <ViaNocturna85> hey just wondering, if you installed kubuntu on top of ubuntu, is there a way to get the me-menu on kubuntu?
[21:26] <jinzougen> Hey. Have any of you ever had an issue where, in Okular, when you fill in PDF form fields, it renders the text rotated 90 degrees?
[21:27] <jinzougen> The form fields seem to be lined up correctly on the lines and everything, but when I switch to the hide forms view, so the text boxes go away, the text is on it's side, and squished so it can fit into the height of the text bok.
[21:27] <jinzougen> its side*
[21:30] <dasKreech> BajK: are they giving you with the wrong extension?
[21:34] <TaMaS__> hey guys
[21:37] <dasKreech> hi
[21:39] <TaMaS__> Can I ask a quick question?
[21:39] <TaMaS__> or maybe 2.
[21:41] <niemand> ask but i am not sure if i can help you
[21:44] <dasKreech> !ask
[21:47] <niemand> I have a question too - i think kernel-update of today broke something concerning networking. I have no time for further investigation at the moment. Did anyone notice something similar?
[21:55] <dasKreech> niemand: jump back to an old kernel
[21:55] <dasKreech> BajK: I would like to note that if you rename a file badly and highlight it in Dolphin it does say what type of file it thinks it is
[22:00] <theixle> I can't find a windows xp shared printer in kubuntu. I've tried everything on the forums and worked with someone in #ubuntu for a while. They suggested I come here.
[22:21] <dasKreech> theixle: What have you tried? Did you add the printer manually?
[22:22] <theixle> dasKreech: I've just been using system->printers->add printer->windows printer via samba
[22:22] <theixle> but it can't find the shared printer for some reason
[22:23]  * dasKreech knows nothing about samba or printers
[22:24] <dasKreech> Having said that what shows up in smb:/ in dolphin ?
[22:24] <theixle> nothing
[22:49] <jhambo> Hey folks when I use device notifier to mount a FAT32 usb drive, it mounts with permissions that don't allow me to write to the drive.  How can I make it so that I can write to the drive? (ubuntu 10.04)
[22:55] <NeoPhoenix> alguem sabe como descompactar arquivo .bz2.out?