rlameiroanyone here has problms with ureadhead?00:15
persiaI think rsalveti was talking about some issues with it and OOM in the past00:16
rlameirowell, it still have that problem00:18
rlameiroIm not sure if I used the last rootstock00:18
rlameiroI remeber i needed to change some file somewhere, i will dig it again00:18
persiaI think rsalveti was having the issue with jasper images: maybe rootstock needs the same hack00:21
GrueMasterrlameiro: Bug 60035900:23
ubot2Launchpad bug 600359 in ureadahead (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "ureadahead generating oom messages during boot. (affects: 10) (dups: 1) (heat: 70)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60035900:23
GrueMasterIs that what you are referring to?00:24
rlameiroit hangs at boot00:24
GrueMasterHangs?  Which system?00:24
rlameirobeagle clone with more ram and wireless00:26
rcn-eerlameiro, anything special with your setup? (mine with IGEPv2's factory u-boot and mainline 2.6.35 is solid..)00:27
rlameiroi build the kernel and custum rootfs made with rootstock00:28
rlameirothis happended to me before00:28
rlameiroit hangs at the boot and it doesnt prompt for login00:28
rlameiroahh, and the led is blinking green00:29
rlameirorcn-ee: opps didnt ping you00:29
rcn-eehumm weird.. (mine's in the basement so i never see it..)  anything special in that
rlameirowell, it had some stuff added for the omap stuff00:30
rlameiroits the igepv2's website00:31
rcn-eereference if nothing too special (i have most of the omap stuff in it.): i'm running: http://rcn-ee.net/deb/maverick/v2.6.35.4-l4/linux-image-
rlameirodoes audio works aut of the box?00:31
rlameirorcn-ee: and his it built for the igepv2 board?00:32
rcn-eeaudio i don't know... video works, one of the igepv2 guys sent me patches when it wasn't working..  otherwise sgx/dspbridge stuff enabled..00:32
rcn-eeit's built for all. ;) (beagle, overo, touchbook, igepv2, panda)00:32
rlameirowhy is it a deb?00:33
rlameiroisnt it an uImage file?00:33
rcn-eefor rootstock.. ;)00:33
rlameiroohhhh, i need to build a new rootfs00:33
rcn-eeotherwise, dpkg extract, mkimage on vmlinuz.. ;)00:33
rlameirowell, the problem will be the same i guess00:33
persia.debs are better anyway: they can have pre- and post- install logic, and be removed cleanly :)00:33
rlameirorcn-ee: but will rootstock build and install the modules?00:34
rcn-eeyeap, it'll output a vmlinuz-.... and a uIntrd-....  for first boot and the modules wil be installed. (i'm the one who sent ogra the patches for --kernel-image addon to rootstock)00:35
rcn-eethat's easy enough, do that first... ;)00:36
rlameiroso, i copy the vmlinuz and uIntrd to the boot partition00:36
rcn-eeyeap, you'll have to run mkimage... the script plays dumb, since u-boot/omap address isn't 100% of the arm boards...00:37
rcn-eehey persia, are you guys tracking/noticing a lot of oem-config/ubiquity bugs in your armel images?00:39
persiaI'm not, but I've no idea about others.  I've seen ogra trying to work around some things with jasper and ubiquity and debian-installer changes.00:40
rlameirowell, i think i will need to do it your way rcn-ee  :D00:41
rlameirodo you have some place explaining the steps?00:41
GrueMasterI'm seeing some issues getting the XM to boot into oem-config on the 20100909 image.00:41
GrueMasterrcn-ee: ^^^00:41
rcn-eeGrueMaster, it just dies with oem user not found, black screen/etc. ;)00:41
GrueMasterBeen fighting it all day now.00:41
GrueMasterInteresting.  My problem is that it just fails to run, or part of it fails.00:42
persiahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bugs?field.tag=armel is the URL for the current set of reported armel/ubiquity bugs.00:42
rcn-eesure rlameiro, where you at with it..00:42
GrueMasterWorked fine when I first tested the 20100909 image.00:42
rlameirorcn-ee: well, bette, do you have it in some webpage explained ? :D00:43
rcn-eerlameiro, yeap.. elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu  ;)00:43
rlameirorcn-ee: oki00:43
rcn-eethose demo images will work on the igepv_2.. ;) just use the latest setup_sd.sh script..00:43
* rcn-ee don't you hate when you cant' find that bug/report log browser tab...00:44
rlameirorcn-ee: one problem, I dont have HDMI here for the first boot.00:44
rlameiroi run it headless via serial/ssh...00:45
rcn-eeahh crap yeah... i'll have that fixed for the next image.. (defaults ubuntu/temppwd)...00:45
rcn-eeGrueMaster, i think that happend between 2.3.18/2.3.19 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk/changes00:46
rlameirobut if i build it with rootstock will i have the same problem?00:46
rlameiromaybe that is my problem now00:46
rcn-eerlameiro, as long as you put a login and password it'll be fine...00:46
rlameiroit boots but doesnt give me acces to a console00:46
rcn-eeactually it might be, if oem-config was installed..00:47
rlameiromaybe it boots but graphical only, i put a password in it00:47
GrueMasterrcn-ee: There is a problem with it not running on newer images.  Not sure what it was, but I was told they were working on it.00:47
rcn-eei'm just doing nightly builds/tests and it's getting worse.. my workaround with 2.3.3 doesn't work anymore either. ;)00:48
GrueMasterThe last daily image that built was 20100916, but oem-config fails to run.  Prior to that, 20100909 was the last working preinstalled image.00:49
persiaI thought people said good things about 20100914 at one point00:52
GrueMasterIt was good for omap4.00:52
GrueMasterNo omap build.00:52
rcn-eeas a plus the next release those should be combined.. (well 2.6.37 based ubuntu)00:54
persiaThe next release is probably .37 or .38, so that's likely.00:56
rlameirorcn-ee: well i went to test it on the Tv and it passed after the "hang" place00:56
GrueMasterrcn-ee: Not sure if we will have 1 kernel to rule them all by then.  I know there is active work going on in devicetree, but not sure on status.00:56
rcn-eecool rlameiro that was quick.. ;)00:56
persiaGrueMaster, one kernel to rule all omap != one kernel to rule all armel00:56
rlameirobut then the screen changed to black with a coursor blinking at the top right corner00:56
rcn-eeprobally not, but one omap kernel atleast. ;)00:56
* GrueMaster gives up for the day on beagleXM. 5 reinstalls on three different SD cards, 5 different failures, none reproducible.00:57
persiaNow, for linux 3.0, one of the goals should be a single build that works on every architecture.00:57
GrueMasterthat would be...interesting.00:58
GrueMasterMaybe if they shift the code to java?00:58
persiaYep.  Think about the board initialisation detection phase :)00:58
rcn-eeGrueMaster, random... a1 by chance?00:58
GrueMasterThis is a premee.  P8 board.00:58
rcn-eewhat 'mpurate=xx' are you using?00:58
rcn-eedid you set mem=256 on boot?00:59
GrueMasterIt worked fine before.  With this image.00:59
rcn-eeon my pre production boards, i had to limit them to 800mzh with "mpurate=800" and the first 256 of the 512 of memory...01:00
GrueMasterI usually don't muck with the bootargs, except to add serial console.01:00
rcn-eei muck with them all the time.. ubuntu could get a 'unfair' speed bump from lucid to maverick by bumping from the default 500mhz to 720 on the c4's like the part is designed ;)01:02
GrueMasterWhat I am seeing is that sometimes it will boot to gdm before oem-config runs, sometimes parts of oem-config will crash.  Nothing consistant, which suggests memory issues.  Nothing on the serial console.01:02
rlameirorcn-ee: you make boards?01:02
rcn-eesometimes.. (i didn't make the beagle thou)... i do work at a place that sells them.. ;)01:03
GrueMasterMy job is to test the images as they are.  I usually don't have time to muck with out-of-image settings.01:03
rcn-eewhich is perfectly allright and better for the end customer01:03
rcn-eebut once the voltage scalling patches hit mainline, we need to bump the xm from 500mhz to 1Ghz.. ;)01:04
GrueMasterSpeed is good.01:05
GrueMasterI'd like to see them run at a more usable pace.01:05
GrueMaster(at least it would fail faster).  :P01:09
* GrueMaster thinks 10 hours is enough work for one Friday and wanders off to find a beer.01:13
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ogra_cmpcwohoo !10:40
* ogra_cmpc managed to get root on the toshiba ac10010:40
zygaogra_cmpc, how did you do it?.10:49
ogra_cmpcthere is a tool called rageagainstthecage10:49
zygagood name10:49
zygaogra_cmpc, nice machine, it has 0.5GB of memory10:50
ogra_cmpccopying that to a partition thats not mounted noexec, running it in a shell will get you a rootshell in the next terminal app you opwn10:50
zygaogra_cmpc, how much did you pay for it?10:50
ogra_cmpcnearly 400euro10:50
zygaogra_cmpc, ouch! how long does the battery last?10:51
ogra_cmpc7-8h undr android10:52
ogra_cmpcover 100h in standby10:52
ogra_cmpc(according to the docs)10:52
persiaThat means ~6 hours under Ubuntu, I'd suggest, based on similar claims from similar hardware I've run Ubuntu on.10:53
zygaogra_cmpc, what SoC does it use?10:53
persia100h is time in sleep, which is nice, but...10:53
ogra_cmpczyga, tegra 25010:54
ogra_cmpcdual core a910:54
zygathat's a beast10:55
zygaogra_cmpc, but no neon, right?10:55
ogra_cmpcsadly less ram than the dev board10:55
ogra_cmpcno neon but at least nvidia offers binary #d drivers10:55
persiaIs it expansible?10:55
ogra_cmpcno, its a SoC10:56
ogra_cmpcprobably solderable10:56
zygaogra_cmpc, is ram POP or separate on the board?10:57
zygaogra_cmpc, did you hear about that guy that installed android on the iphone 2G?10:58
zygaogra_cmpc, I have a spare 2G that nobody uses and I though I could try that, and if it works, try to rebuild the stack with linaro toolchain10:59
zygaogra_cmpc, if _that_ would work then we would, kind of, have linaro on the iphone ;-) which is very cool :-)10:59
persiaBah.  No keyboard.11:00
zygapersia, iphone?11:00
zygapersia, yeah but you get serial11:00
zygapersia, and running android is probably usable enough11:00
zygapersia, for a web tabled of sort11:00
ogra_cmpceverzthing on the board is soldered on directly11:00
ogra_cmpcincludiong the eMMC11:00
persiazyga, No little trackball: doesn't that break something?11:01
zygapersia, huh? I have no idea what you are talking about11:01
zygapersia, are you talking about ac100?11:02
persiaI thought android UI required a little trackball (having seen lots of touchscreen devices with little trackballs in unusable positions),  That said, I don't actually care much (my interest is only in having consumer HW that runs Ubuntu: especially HW that I can take off my desk.11:04
zygapersia, ah11:04
zygapersia, no, you don't need that11:04
zygapersia, it works quite fine on all samsung phones that don't have that11:04
persiaAh, OK.  Wonder why it's stuck in the middle of the device right against the hinge in a bunch of the 4" clamshells at the shops.  Poor Human Interface design, and if it's not required, kinda pointless.11:05
zygapersia, probably because it's good for hitting links on websites on crappy first get touchscreens11:07
persiazyga, Come and see: it's not usable if you have either large fingers or long fingernails.  After seeing, look at the hands of Japanese consumers ...11:08
zygapersia, yeah, I never said it's perfect, but without it the first android devices would likely suck more11:09
persiaAnyway, not important.  Most of them have only moderate-spec processors, etc.11:09
zygapersia, /me wants to go to japan :P11:09
persiaAnd now you have an excuse: critical research on human interface design :)11:09
zygapersia, next I need a business reason for expenses ;-)11:10
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naveenpendahi all i am new in gtk programming..14:14
naveenpendai just started small program for button click14:15
naveenpendahow i will know which gtk version is installed in my ubuntu ?14:15
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naveenpendais this package can be installed llibgtk2.0-dev and used in any ubuntu-arm? any help is appreciated15:46
rlameiropersia: are you there?22:51
rlameiropersia: found issues with jackd /qjackctl on my igepv223:15
persiaWhat issues?  Have you filed the bug?23:16
rlameironot yet23:17
rlameirofirst of all, pd has some issues with the alsa drivers wit it, so it needs to run over oss backend23:17
rlameiroalso trying to run qjackctl over ssh with X tunnel i could see that it couldnt lock memory or something, then it crash,23:18
rlameiroalso it gaves a error saying it doesnt find alsa midi devices23:18
rlameiroit shouldnt be a showstopper...23:19
rlameirorebooting now to see if it is the problem23:20
persiaOK.  Sounds to me like the issue is with alsa, and JACK is just having a hard time because of that.23:21
persiaMy recommendation would be to troubleshoot with aplay and arecord until you have working alsa, and *then* chase pulse.23:21
rlameiropersia: it plays with asound23:22
rlameirothat was already reported on pd community23:22
persiaI suspect you can sort this with amixer, and if you file a bug with the exact amixer calls required along with the regular sound information script output, it becomes possible to fix the kernel so that you don't need the amixer calls.23:22
rlameiroi have sound, and unmutted the mixers23:23
persiaBut when you use `pd -alsa` you get the horrid sound?23:24
rlameiroi dont have a way to know what isnt working on the alsa driver23:26
persiaWould you file a bug about that with `ubuntu-bug puredata` and include a sound sample generated on your machine?23:26
rlameiroi just know that puredata can sync the ADC23:26
rlameiroI can try :D23:27
persiaBecause there's either an ALSA bug or some PD bug, and randomly switching to use PD-over-OSS-over-ALSA doesn't even begin to address it, nor does that help for other things affected.23:27
rlameirobut i dont know if it is a puredata bug23:27
rlameiroi think is alsa23:27
persiaLet's file it, and the testcase against puredata right now.23:28
persiaI think mpoirer was looking at audio issues for the omap kernels (although I'm sure he'd like help), so he might appreciate another testcase.23:28
persiaThat is does work with the OSS backend makes me think it is ALSA, but it's exposed in PD, so it could also be something related to the PD porting.23:29
rlameirowell it may be, but pd is a lot more demanding over the audio backends23:31
rlameiroit demands accurate thing sync etc23:31
rlameiroIm installing midori now to file the bug23:32
rlameiropersia: do you know a easy way to record the audio output of a programm over the command line?23:33
rlameirosomething like piping?23:33
persiaNo, but.23:33
persiaSo, if you have the sort of audio hardware that is on the beagle, you can't: anything that claims to do that will capture the audio *before* it gets processed by the hardware.23:34
rlameirowell then i need to make it old school then :D23:34
rlameiropipe it with real copper to my laptop :D23:35
persiaIf you have an audio interface that exposes monitor channels, you can record the monitors to see what was playing, but this means two passes through the drivers, so isn't useful to test the drivers in isolation.23:35
persiaYes :)23:35

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