[00:00] <ComradeHaz`> I'd tell you for sure if my machine worked :D
[00:00] <ComradeHaz`> So, somewhat interestingly, I've just managed to install Windows 7
[00:19] <Gibby> hmm
[00:19] <Gibby> try to boot to livecd now
[00:22] <ComradeHaz`> Yeah, did. No go.
[00:23] <ComradeHaz`> Even upgraded BIOS while I was in wondows.
[00:33] <Gibby> hmmmm
[00:39] <fluvvell> Gibby, remote?
[00:41] <Gibby> fluvvell, yes an IR remote
[00:41]  * fluvvell spent previous week in lirc lockdown, not getting out until it was working
[00:41] <fluvvell> not much experience with mce though, mainly hauppauge
[00:42] <Gibby> fluvvell, over in mythtv-users they think my receiver is using devinput and not lirc
[00:42] <fluvvell> Gibby, thought devinput was used by lirc,
[00:42] <fluvvell> dev/input
[00:43] <fluvvell> There are about 5 "ducks" that need to get in a row to make lirc work
[00:44] <fluvvell> device module (unless already in kernel) hardware.conf  , lircd.conf  and lircrc
[00:44] <fluvvell> well thats 4, but a serial one needs two devices installed
[00:45] <Gibby> lirc uses /dev/lirc devinput is /dev/input/mouse and /dev/input/keyboard from my understanding
[00:46] <fluvvell> yeah but in your /etc/lirc/hardware.conf it should be dev/input
[00:47] <Gibby> nope /dev/lirc0
[00:47] <Gibby> should i change it?
[00:47] <fluvvell> then iirc  something like /dev/input/event#    =5, 6 or 7  depending on what /proc/bus/input/devices says
[00:48] <Gibby> i have event 0-7
[00:49] <fluvvell> does it say an mce device in your /proc/bus/input/devices file ?
[00:50] <Gibby> hmm nope
[00:50] <fluvvell> mm, must be something compatible. Pastebin?
[00:51] <Gibby> http://pastebin.com/e3wujeS5
[00:52] <Gibby> it is the HOLTEK i think
[00:53] <fluvvell> yeah, was wondering that.
[00:53] <Gibby> this is it from lsusb Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1241:e000 Belkin
[00:53] <fluvvell> event 4 and 4
[00:53] <fluvvell> Oh, Belkin?
[00:54] <Gibby> so i need to edit /etc/lirc/hardware.conf and make REMOTE_DEVICE="/dev/input/event4" ?
[00:54] <fluvvell> Wonder why they dont identify as belkin in the devices.
[00:54] <fluvvell> well yes, or 3
[00:54] <Gibby> which one is it? lol
[00:55] <fluvvell> you're gonna have to try each one individually
[00:55] <fluvvell> and REMOTE_DRIVER="dev/input"
[00:56] <fluvvell> next is to check on what is coming in as codes
[00:56] <fluvvell> and that is irrecord
[00:56] <Gibby> thought it was irw
[00:57] <Gibby> REMOTE_DRIVER="dev/input"
[00:57] <fluvvell> you're not at irw yet
[00:57] <Gibby> REMOTE_DEVICE="/dev/input/event3"
[00:57] <fluvvell> yep
[00:57] <Gibby> right?
[00:58] <fluvvell> do irrecord --help
[00:58] <fluvvell> you'll need irrecord -H dev/input -d /dev/input/event3 -n   belkinremote.conf
[00:59] <fluvvell> or name the file whatever suits really. the -n stops forcing you to use pre-determined names for the buttons
[00:59] <Gibby> do i need to use sudo?
[00:59] <fluvvell> yep
[01:00] <Gibby> ok i got alot of ................... when i held the up arrow on the remote
[01:00] <fluvvell> good!
[01:00] <fluvvell> I take it you're following the onscreen instructions
[01:01] <Gibby> nope lol, it just said Hold down an arbitrary button so i did and that was it
[01:01] <fluvvell> well yes, thats the first instruction lol!
[01:02] <fluvvell> you have to keep holding it down till it says stop!
[01:02] <fluvvell> or RETURN or somesuch
[01:02] <fluvvell> I'm guessing you didn't find the exact remote descriptor in MCC ?
[01:03] <Gibby> nope not in MCC the remote is a Hootoo :)
[01:04] <fluvvell> eek, sounds like something from Hotel Rwanda!
[01:06] <fluvvell> so yeah, go through and name your buttons then check out the file it created.  I guess I've sometimes redone this 3 or 4 times for a remote until I was happy with it.
[01:06] <Gibby> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160436944155&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
[01:06] <Zinn> [cgi.ebay.com] eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices
[01:07] <fluvvell> spam ?
[01:07] <fluvvell> ubotu: spam
[01:07] <fluvvell> urr, wrong channel.
[01:08] <Gibby> no not spam, the remote i got
[01:09] <fluvvell> oohhhh, thats cheap.
[01:09] <fluvvell> lol "Remote Control for Windows XP/Vistar"    <--   Vistar ????
[01:10] <fluvvell> right, you might have a wiggly stick for mouse emulation?   or perhaps just the arrow keys.
[01:10] <fluvvell> so yeah, it was definately event 3
[01:11] <Gibby> ok lol
[01:11] <Gibby> i like cheap
[01:12] <fluvvell> I'm not so familiar with everything to understand what KEY=10000 7 ff800000 7ff febeffdf ffefffff ffffffff fffffffe  means, but its probably in there somewhere to do with pulse timing.
[01:12] <fluvvell> so what does your belkinremote.conf  file look like?
[01:13] <Gibby> just finished, only 4 keys were not recongnized, standby(dont care) volume + and - i do care, and mouse don't care
[01:14] <Gibby> o and mute
[01:14] <Gibby> all codes are 0x0
[01:14] <fluvvell> volume + and -, thats odd
[01:15] <fluvvell> maybe your existing keyboard has them as well.
[01:16] <Gibby> has what?
[01:16] <Gibby> right now volume works tho
[01:17] <fluvvell> the last part of the trick involves creating an lircrc file than goes in your /home/user/.mythtv/   directory that tells myth what buttons do what.  Look at the one thats been created for you already for ideas,  it will be a simlink into one ofthe usr/share/lirc   files
[01:17] <Gibby> seems as if when i push the mouse button it all goes funky, i push it again and it comes back, pause and play don't work and now menu key
[01:17] <fluvvell> so by defining the button names in the lircrc file you get all of your buttons working.  Voila.
[01:17] <fluvvell> and increased understanding in the process.
[01:19] <Gibby> http://pastebin.com/ihHeScYA
[01:19] <Gibby> that is my  belkinremote.conf
[01:20] <Gibby> doesn't look right
[01:20] <fluvvell> looks good.
[01:20] <fluvvell> oh no\
[01:21] <Gibby> http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/holtek/lircd.conf
[01:21] <Zinn> [lirc.sourceforge.net]
[01:21] <fluvvell> you're right, all oxo!!
[01:21] <fluvvell> 0x0 lol
[01:21] <Gibby> found though... it might work, i was serarching for belkin and hootoo before holtek might work
[01:21] <fluvvell> yeah, if holtek is in the mcc, that would be a way to go.
[01:22] <fluvvell> but I think you screwed up some part of the detection process, it looks at timing and gap pulses
[01:22] <fluvvell> if it gets those wrong, you're recording is pulp.
[01:23] <Gibby> re did, just did 1 button it got it
[01:25] <Gibby> doing 50 buttons is a pain
[01:26] <fluvvell> yeah, it takes a while.  Someone should write a script with the pre-determined names or a skip key
[01:27] <fluvvell> at least irrecord is better than nothing.
[01:29] <Gibby> true i am trying MCC
[01:31] <fluvvell> wll looking in the mythtv.org wiki, you could also use xev, which I haven't done because I don't have an MCE remote, I have hauppauge.
[01:31] <Zinn> [mythtv.org] MythTV, Open Source DVR
[01:31] <fluvvell> I have what purports to be an MCE type receiver but its not.
[01:32] <fluvvell> or  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Generic_HID_%22MCE%22_Remotes
[01:32] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Generic HID "MCE" Remotes - MythTV
[01:33] <fluvvell> but you then need to remap keys from it.
[01:35] <Gibby> ugghhhhh
[01:35] <Gibby> where to start
[01:35] <Gibby> well another beer first
[01:37] <fluvvell> yeah.  I think I'd try xev looking at that wiki page.  I mean I know the  irrecord route works but all that button pressing and typing,  but using xev you still have to press the buttons to find out what it has.
[01:38] <Gibby> hmm brb, let me go get another beer and i will try it, i mean right now the volume, numbers, arrow keys, clear, enter and ok work, just not the like play pause or anything to equal and I or M
[01:40] <fluvvell> yeah, not worth spending too much time over I guess.
[01:44] <Gibby> is there away i can just get the hex output of it? i could figure it our from there i thought that is what irw would do
[01:46] <Gibby> where did you find the xev stuff?
[01:47] <Gibby> o n/m
[01:53] <fluvvell> if the  count{empty-beerbottles} >6  you might find the configuration goes out the window he he.
[01:53] <fluvvell> yeah, its irrecord that gives you the hex codes.
[01:55] <Gibby> i think i got it with xev now :)
[01:56] <Gibby> will finish mapping tomorrow, taking my zotac down starts to see if i can get it working on my tv down there
[01:56] <fluvvell> cheers Gibby.
[01:56] <rhpot1991> fluvvell: irrecord once and back it up somewhere
[01:56] <rhpot1991> thats what I've done in the past
[01:56] <rhpot1991> empty beer bottles > 6 is an expensive night in my books
[01:57] <fluvvell> rhpot1991, he he, yeah me too.
[01:57] <fluvvell> rhpot1991, I've nearly always made a backup somewhere but sometimes I've edited them just to get the names a bit more consistent
[01:59] <fluvvell> Gibby_away, you might need   apt-get install inputlirc as well
[10:09] <_olo_> Hi All, my mythbox stopped showing recordings, google told that it might be "lenght missmatch" problem so upgraded to autobuilds 0.23.1, but problem persist. Backend records scheduled shows, livetv works fine. what else could i try without messing mysql completly? thanks
[10:28] <_olo_> MSqlQuery::exec(DBManager1) SELECT data FROM settings WHERE value = 'queryinitialfilter' AND hostname = 'mythbox' <<<< Returns 1 row(s)
[10:28] <_olo_> 2010-09-18 10:26:24.300 MSqlQuery::next(DBManager1) Result: "data = 0"
[10:28] <_olo_> 2010-09-18 10:26:24.300 PlaybackBox Error: SortedList is Empty
[10:30] <_olo_> that what it says runnung mythfrontend -v all and entering recordings. weird thing is it moans about /dev/sr0 No disk i've just noticed
[10:41] <unwar> hi all
[10:43] <unwar> can somebody tell me if Mythubuntu supports irda dongles for remotes?
[14:06] <miststlkr> trying to add a remote frontend and did something wrong. I set the mast backend's IP address as the database location, and it loads the database fine, but when i try to play a video it tries to load the video fro localhost rather than the master server's location.  what did I screw up?
[19:50] <toma> i've changed my motherboard which now includes intel hdmi graphics, but its output is way too green, almost as if blue is completely missing
[19:50] <toma> anyone able to tell me how i can correct that?
[19:53] <bogus-> wiggle around with your cable?
[19:54] <toma> bogus-: i've first tried with a dvi->hdmi cable, but now i bought a hdmi->hdmi cable, and the problem remains
[19:56] <bogus-> does the problem exist in your bios screen?
[19:56] <toma> bogus-: the bios is not shown on the hdmi output
[19:56] <bogus-> you also have a dvi output you use?
[19:57] <toma> it has dvi output too, but not used
[19:57] <tgm4883> miststlkr, does the master backend machine host the database as well?
[19:57] <tgm4883> or is the db on a separate machien
[19:58] <bogus-> can you pres delete and go to the bios menu?
[19:58] <miststlkr> tgm4883 - I have it set up right now that way, yes.
[19:58] <bogus-> because if that's not even blue, I think it's a hw problem
[19:59] <tgm4883> miststlkr, ok, so the master backend has the database, is there a frontend on the masterbackend as well?
[19:59] <toma> bogus-: well, i can not check that
[19:59] <bogus-> maybe it's a driver setting
[19:59] <toma> yeah
[19:59] <bogus-> maybe it's a monitor setting
[20:00] <toma> yeah
[20:00] <bogus-> tried the monitor on another machine?
[20:00] <bogus-> I don't know about the confiigurability of intel drivers in linux
[20:00] <toma> bogus-: yes, my tv worked fine on my nvdia card i used up to an hour ago
[20:02] <tgm4883> toma, US?
[20:02] <toma> tgm4883: no, pal
[20:02] <tgm4883> hmm
[20:03] <tgm4883> usually ntsc/pal wrong settings show up as black/white picture, but I'd check that just in case
[20:03] <bogus-> yep indeed, normally not green :)
[20:03] <toma> tgm4883: i did not find any setting for that in the bios
[20:03] <miststlkr> tgn4883 - Sorry, Let me be more specific instead of making you fish for info.  The way I have it set up right now is the HTPC hooked up tot he TV is a master backend and a frontend, and works fine as it is.  I am trying to add a frontend elsewhere.  That frontend had the HTPC's IP address set as the master backend and the database location.  When I go to "watch video" the database loads correctly from the master backend's lo
[20:03] <miststlkr> cation but when I pick a video to play I get a "Please Waiting" then spit right back to the video window.  mythfrontend.log has an error that the file can't be found on localhost
[20:04] <tgm4883> toma, might be in the driver settings in xorg
[20:04] <tgm4883> miststlkr, on your masterbackend, go into mythtv-setup, is the backend location set as the actual ip address or 127.0.0.1?
[20:05] <toma> The console is green too
[20:05] <toma> grr
[20:05] <bogus-> via ssh?
[20:05] <tgm4883> the console is green too?
[20:05] <tgm4883> wow
[20:05] <tgm4883> sounds like faulty hardware/cable
[20:05] <bogus-> indeed
[20:05] <toma> 2 cables then
[20:06] <bogus-> that's mostly the case when things turn green/blue/red :P
[20:06] <toma> so must be my tv making a mess
[20:06] <bogus-> why not the intel board? :p
[20:06] <miststlkr> tgm4883 - the master backend has "localhost" as the local backend and the specific [static] IP under master
[20:06] <tgm4883> miststlkr, use the actual IP for both
[20:06] <miststlkr> rgr
[20:07] <tgm4883> toma, could be the intel board, there are bad boards from the factory
[20:07] <tgm4883> toma, also, are you using the same input on the tv that you were using with nvidia?
[20:07] <toma> yes
[20:07] <tgm4883> ok, then I think bad intel board
[20:08] <tgm4883> out of curiosity, why not just use the nvidia board?
[20:08] <toma> other mainboard and proc
[20:08] <miststlkr> tgm4883 - Thanks, that was a stupid one....
[20:08] <tgm4883> ah
[20:09] <tgm4883> miststlkr, no worries, it's an easy overlook since it works fine in one location
[20:10] <miststlkr> so what did I essentially do, loop it back?  The frontend asked "where's the backend?" the other machine said "it's at localhost" so the frontend checked [its own] localhost?  if there were several backends, [c/w]ould you just daisy chain them doing that??
[20:12] <miststlkr> meh, forgot to aim that last one, sorry.    I have a rather short stupid one now, if you have another minute.  I can't seem to figure out how to remove a Storage Group.   can add one, and edit an existing one, but what do I hit to remove one?
[20:14] <tgm4883> miststlkr, to remove a storage group, highlight it and hit D
[20:14] <miststlkr> :-/    sorry tgm4883... It's amateur night I guess :-\
[20:14] <tgm4883> miststlkr, if there were multiple backends, you would select the actual IP for the local backend and the actual IP of the master backend
[20:15] <tgm4883> the frontend connects to the master backend, and gets all info from there
[20:15] <tgm4883> it's really easy when you don't use localhost in your environment
[20:15] <miststlkr> tgm4883 - got it.  If I add a system that is only a frontend, I never saw where to add the backend's address.   Does it assume that the database is stored on the same system as the files, as I did?
[20:16] <tgm4883> miststlkr, kinda
[20:16] <tgm4883> it would query the database for the location
[20:16] <tgm4883> which is why when it was set to localhost it confused the frontend
[20:17] <miststlkr> excellent.  Thanks
[20:17] <tgm4883> np
[20:51] <miststlkr> tgm4883 - if you have a second for another, if for some reason I wanted to host videos on one backend and music-only on a different one, is that possible?
[21:50] <Gibby_2> where is this channel logged at?
[21:52] <mrand> Gibby_2: zinn knows I think?
[21:52] <Zinn> Hi mrand, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[21:53] <Gibby_2> !channel log
[21:53] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about channel log
[21:53] <Gibby_2> !help
[21:53] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[21:53] <Gibby_2> !about
[21:53] <Zinn> I am an IRC bot written in perl, but my code is not yet released.  I am named after Howard Zinn, you can learn more about him here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Zinn
[21:53] <Gibby_2> !status
[21:53] <Zinn> I am alive.
[21:53] <Gibby_2> !you suck
[21:53] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about you suck
[21:53] <Gibby_2> lol hmmmm
[21:54] <Gibby_2> !irc logs
[21:54] <Zinn> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[22:00] <Gibby_2> zinn is no help there
[22:00] <Zinn> Hi Gibby_2, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[22:01] <Gibby_2> yeah zinn tell me where the channel logs are !! lol
[22:11] <tgm4883> I dont' think this channel is logged
[22:12] <ComradeHaz`> Evening all. Having all sorts of fun with a new box I have put together. I had a test machine working with a new GPU that I am still using. I have now upgraded that test machine with most of a new machine. ie moved the new gpu and the hdd into a new box. Sadly, there are issues. The first thing I did was play an mkv that worked fine. Last night, however, I tried to play an iso that had previously
[22:12] <tgm4883> I know -dev isn't
[22:12] <Gibby_away>  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Generic_HID_%22MCE%22_Remotes
[22:12] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Generic HID "MCE" Remotes - MythTV
[22:13] <ComradeHaz`> played fine on the old hardware but it is causing crashes. I would like some assistance diagnosing those crashes now please but have more to tell you that may be of importance. (I have debugging tools installed and so forth but do not know really how to use them).#
[22:14] <ComradeHaz`> The further information is that I decided that as I hadn't spent any appreciable time configureing my setup that I would just do a fresh install and get around these crashes that way but I have found that all Ubuntu installers send this GPU / mo-bo combo into spamming out something that is 'unsupported' or  'out of range' of my monitors.
[22:17] <ComradeHaz`> Mythtv version 0.23.1+Version: 0.23.1+fixes26231-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu2
[22:18] <ComradeHaz`> Gibby_2 what logs do you need?
[22:18] <ComradeHaz`> I've been here for months :D
[22:20] <mrand> Gibby_2: why isn't http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ helpful?  the logs are there.
[22:20] <Zinn> [irclogs.ubuntu.com] Index of /
[22:20] <ComradeHaz`> Oh, by the way, that mkv still plays. Nothing else I try does.
[22:20] <mrand> tgm4883: I believe most all "official" ubuntu related channels are logged
[22:22] <ComradeHaz`> Anyone there who can help?!
[22:22] <ComradeHaz`> Please?!
[22:22] <Gibby_2> mrand: yes it is there, searched for the wrong team
[22:22] <Gibby_2> term i mean
[22:22] <Gibby_2> ComradeHaz`: whats up?
[22:23] <ComradeHaz`> Plsease sea above, I have described rather acuratelt.
[22:23] <ComradeHaz`> *acurately.
[22:23] <ComradeHaz`> *see
[22:23] <ComradeHaz`> *please
[22:23]  * ComradeHaz` cries :D
[22:24] <mrand> ComradeHaz`: when you say nothing else does, have you tried something other than an iso?
[22:24] <ComradeHaz`> Yes.
[22:24] <ComradeHaz`> avi just now.
[22:26] <Gibby_2> i was looking for the link i pasted from Gibby, had ran to my office and just repasted it. thanks for the log info tho
[22:27] <Gibby_2> ComradeHaz`: What is your playback profile?
[22:27] <ComradeHaz`> What do you mean?
[22:28] <ComradeHaz`> Sorry, I have only been messing with Mythtv related stuff for a few weeks really
[22:28] <Gibby_2> Under settings tv settings playback i believe
[22:30] <mrand> ComradeHaz`: have you tried playing it back outside of myth?
[22:30] <ComradeHaz`> Errm, I'm either being a n00b, 'missunderstandifying'  you or something :D
[22:31] <ComradeHaz`> yes mrand, X crashes.
[22:32] <mrand> What are you using to play it?  X shouldn't be crashing.   I'd be suspecting hardware problems.
[22:32] <ComradeHaz`> sound of file plays, video window stays blank, X crashes.
[22:32] <ComradeHaz`> VLC.
[22:32] <ComradeHaz`> and whatever is default for frontend
[22:33] <ComradeHaz`> real, iirc
[22:33] <ComradeHaz`> and yeah, clearly there's some kind of incompatability between the mo-bo and the GOU in this box
[22:34] <ComradeHaz`> *GPU
[22:34] <ComradeHaz`> Funny thing is, it doesn't seem to manifest itself under windows.
[22:35] <mrand> hmm, well then maybe it's not a hardware problem, but rather serious bugs in drivers
[22:35] <ComradeHaz`> Aye, fwiw problem seems to exist for Debian propper too.
[22:36] <ComradeHaz`> How do I get rid of all things nVidia?
[22:36] <ComradeHaz`> I have an ati card I can try
[22:41] <mrand> Sorry, you'll have to find some resources (via google or ubuntu help pages, or ubuntu forums).
[22:44] <Gibby_2> ComradeHaz`: what is the GPU that is in it now?
[22:45] <ComradeHaz`> GT210
[22:48] <Gibby_2> what drivers are you using?
[22:49] <ComradeHaz`> nvidia-glx
[22:49] <Gibby_2> version?
[22:49] <ComradeHaz`> I think, or whatever it is ubuntu installed iirc
[22:49] <ComradeHaz`> Dunno, just removed them :D
[22:49] <ComradeHaz`> Let's see.
[22:49] <ComradeHaz`> Oh, cock, just rebooted machine when I meant to restart session
[22:49] <ComradeHaz`> :D
[22:50] <Gibby_2> oops
[22:50] <ComradeHaz`> Oh good grief.
[22:50] <Gibby_2> i will be back and forth, i am programing my remote via xev
[22:50] <ComradeHaz`> this display looks a bit scary
[22:50] <ComradeHaz`> I think the gpu just exploded.
[22:52] <ComradeHaz`> just random pixles lightiong up
[22:53] <ComradeHaz`> hmm,
[22:53] <ComradeHaz`> nope, not gpu, it's showing debian installer correctly
[22:53] <ComradeHaz`> (graphical)
[22:53] <ComradeHaz`> non graphical throws an error
[22:58] <ComradeHaz`> OK, so removing nvidia driver has boned me.
[23:07] <ComradeHaz`> OK, how on earth do I trouble shoot this. It's clearly driver related as Windows works fine. Just tried again.
[23:10] <ComradeHaz`> (and nvidia-glx works 'kind of'
[23:10] <Gibby_2> yes, i would use the latest nvidia binary driver