[00:45] <hggdh> hallyn: there?
[01:54] <veebull> anyone know where to find a description or explanation of the install options presented by the Server install CD?
[01:55] <veebull> They don't seem to be covered in the official docs, and the pages on boot options and boot parameters in the Community Docs are for the Desktop Live CD version... which doesn't appear to match.
[01:57] <veebull> Specifically I'm curious about the 'F4 Mode' options, which used to be graphic mode options but now are labeled 'Normal', 'OEM Install', 'Minimal Install', 'Install virtual machine'...
[02:11] <vbabiy> How can I find out how many file descriptors are in use?
[02:13] <vbabiy> this does not make sense to me
[02:13] <vbabiy> vbabiy@vbabiy-laptop:~$ lsof | wc -l
[02:13] <vbabiy> 7989
[02:13] <vbabiy> vbabiy@vbabiy-laptop:~$ ulimit -n
[02:13] <vbabiy> 1024
[03:45] <hallyn> hggdh: if it's any help, i'm here now
[03:46] <hggdh> hallyn: heh. No shabbos for us, it seems
[03:48] <hggdh> hallyn: but now I have forgotten what it was :-( Ah well. Hopefully I will remember by next MOnday.
[04:15] <echosystm> has anyone here used ubuntu UEC?
[04:18] <echosystm> hm
[04:18] <echosystm> must be really popular.
[04:19] <lifeless> its pretty popular
[04:40] <hggdh> indeed it is.
[04:46] <vbabiy> what is the correct way to find out how much memory a process is using?
[04:46] <echosystm> top
[04:52] <demonspork> using Ubuntu 10.04 on an HP Proliant DL380 G3, when I SSH into my server it takes 5-10 seconds to challenge for authentication (either password or key) but the server has like a 45ms ping when I ping it directly
[04:53] <demonspork> I also have another possibly related bug with minecraft, when logging into the server it sometimes times out the login for minecraft
[04:54] <demonspork> I have no idea where to being solving this
[04:56] <echosystm> anything suspicious in your ssh logs?
[04:58] <echosystm> ssh -vv when you log in and see if anything weird pops up too
[05:25] <demonspork> echosystm, it seems like it hangs after the line "debu2: key: /home/me/.ssh/id_dsa ((nil))
[05:26] <demonspork> it is there for several seconds
[05:26] <demonspork> debug2*
[05:27] <demonspork> spork#666
[06:23] <pex> demonspork I have the exact same proliant with the same server version
[06:25] <HarryMuffin> I had that same issue but fixed it with a manual entry for the connecting host in the /etc/hosts file. Dunno why it worked but it did
[06:27] <demonspork> HarryMuffin, explain this fix further plase
[06:27] <demonspork> what type of entry
[06:27] <demonspork> what did you have to add
[06:35] <HarryMuffin> it was on a land so I added the hostname / ip to the /etc/hosts file
[06:35] <HarryMuffin> er.. lan
[06:35] <HarryMuffin> so the line was "machine-name   ipaddress"
[06:42] <demonspork> which machine
[06:42] <demonspork> are you talking about the local machine or the one trying to connect
[06:45] <demonspork> HarryMuffin
[06:50] <HarryMuffin> the one you are connecting to
[07:01] <demonspork> HarryMuffin, I just tried that and it didn't seem to do it :(
[07:05] <demonspork> just want to make sure I understand it entirely: say the server is named "server1" and the computer I am on right now is named "bob"  in the /etc/hosts/ for server1 I need to add what exactly?
[07:05] <HarryMuffin> be sure to do a "/etc/init.d/networking restart"
[07:06] <cwillu_at_work> editing /etc/hosts doesn't require a networking restart
[07:06] <HarryMuffin> nevermind that last line then
[07:07] <cwillu_at_work> there's an option for sshd to not try to resolve connecting ip addresses, which is probably a better fix
[07:07] <HarryMuffin> there ya go
[07:07] <cwillu_at_work> that should actually be the default
[07:08] <cwillu_at_work> or maybe not
[07:08] <cwillu_at_work> UseDNS in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[07:08] <demonspork> useDNS
[07:08] <cwillu_at_work> should be no
[07:08] <demonspork> right
[07:08] <demonspork> k
[07:09] <HarryMuffin> right on, didn't know about that
[11:06] <Iceman_B> how can I check from the command line what HDD's are connected inside my system and how full they are ?
[11:06] <au> Iceman_B: df -h
[11:07] <Iceman_B> ok, that gives an idea
[11:07] <Iceman_B> and how do I get the physical model info?
[11:08] <qman__> Iceman_B, sudo fdisk -l
[11:09] <Iceman_B> w00t
[11:09] <Iceman_B> thanks you 2
[11:12] <Mateo_> Hi everyone !
[11:13] <Mateo_> I have a simple question to start :) I'm using pure-pw and i have created a user , owner of /home/mywebsite/
[11:14] <Mateo_> the user is in the ftpgroup
[11:14] <Mateo_> to be able to connect via ftp
[11:15] <Mateo_> the problem is, i need to use auto-upgrade with wordpress, and i can't use it because the folder has to belong to a user in the www-data group
[11:15] <Mateo_> so my question, can a user belong to 2 group ?
[11:24] <_Techie_> Mateo_, yes
[11:24] <_Techie_> Mateo_, a user can belong to two or more groups, dont askme how to do it because i dont know and im heading to bed
[11:25] <_Techie_> !group
[11:25] <_Techie_> hrmm
[11:25] <_Techie_> oh well
[11:25] <_Techie_> good night
[11:26] <Mateo_> thanks _TechAway_
[11:30] <guntbert> Mateo_: a user can be member of many groups, try with adduser <user> <group> and see man adduser
[11:31] <techcomputernerd> i need help with ubuntu server
[11:31] <guntbert> !ask | techcomputernerd
[11:33] <Mateo_> guntbert: and can a folder belongs to 2 users ?
[11:33] <techcomputernerd> I am trying to set ubuntu server to share a hard drive between five computers, two are windows, two are mac and one is ubuntu (desktop) I am trying to set up a dynamic ip but i dont know what to enter for the netmask, network, broadcast and gateway in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:33] <guntbert> Mateo_: a folder can belong to one user and to one group
[11:34] <techcomputernerd> i mean a static ip
[11:35] <guntbert> techcomputernerd: I guess that question will be better answered in ##networking
[11:35] <Mateo_> guntbert: ok so that's problematic, because i need this folder to belongs to www-data for the automatic upgrade, and to be able to ftp with another user (of course)
[11:35] <techcomputernerd> sorry, i thought i should post it in ubuntu-server because it is about ubuntu serrver :)
[11:36] <guntbert> Mateo_: so you give it to some group with write access and make the user a member of that group
[14:02] <amanita_> Hi, anyone using a server (multiple cpus, quad core, xeon etc, sata/sas raid etc) with gnome as a general desktop?
[14:02] <au> I have before
[14:03] <amanita_> au: I am going to buy hp z200 or proliant tower server for gnome and math apps
[14:04] <au> cool :)
[14:04] <jpds> au: Does it run faster?
[14:04] <amanita_> jpds: two quad-core xeon
[14:04] <au> jpds: it runs fast, but linux as my main os is not my taste :)
[14:19] <Kamikazepinguin> Hi!
[14:19] <au> hiya
[14:20] <Kamikazepinguin> Has ynyone here a source for ubuntu server 10.x  for sparc-plattforms?
[14:20] <Kamikazepinguin> *anyone
[14:58] <joschi> Kamikazepinguin: what's wrong with the official cd image?
[14:59] <joschi> Kamikazepinguin: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.04/release/
[15:00] <RoyK> damn - didn't know ubuntu ran on SPARC :)
[15:01] <joschi> RoyK: 10.04 is the last release that officially will
[15:01] <Kamikazepinguin> joschi, its a i386 image
[15:01] <joschi> Kamikazepinguin: no, it's not
[15:02] <Kamikazepinguin> o0? really?
[15:02] <joschi> RoyK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2010-August/000441.html
[15:02] <shauno> none of the /ports/ tree are i386
[15:12] <hggdh> hallyn: I remembered: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-qa/+archive/regression-test/+build/1963857/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.libvirt_0.8.3-1ubuntu11%2Bregressiontest20100917_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[15:15] <jdstrand> hggdh: just passing through, but if that is the same one I looked at the other day, you need to build it with '--without-macvtap'
[15:15] <hggdh> jdstrand: thanks for passign by :-)
[15:16] <jdstrand> sure :)
[15:17]  * jdstrand wanders off
[17:40] <extor> Is it pretty straightforward to migrate Xen domains into KVM domains? I'm having terrible stability issues that remain unsolved on a centos-xen kernel box and am desperate to try anything. Every 12-24 hours my box just cripples itself with an "init reloading" message. Nothing in the logs...
[17:41] <extor> I'm at the point where I could almost just install ubuntu server just for the opportunity to have a newer Xen kernel running things
[17:41] <extor> A shot in the dark...but when you can't see anything then all you can do is shoot randomly in the dark
[18:03] <wickedSA> extor: pretty straightforward in my experience. a disk image is a disk image is a disk image...
[18:04] <wickedSA> extor: some extra steps if any of it lives on LVM, but othersise its easy
[18:04] <extor> wickedSA, so KVM also uses the disk image format?
[18:04] <extor> Non propreitary?
[18:04] <extor> well an LVM still shows up as a block device once you "map" it right
[18:05] <wickedSA> extor: yes. right
[18:19] <SamWhited> Anyone here know anything about configuring Tor with Polipo? I can't seem to get it to allow me to connect (for a while it was allowing only SSL connections, now it's refusing everything)
[19:09] <RudyValencia> OK is anyone in here familiar with configuring oidentd for IRC clients on a network?
[20:16] <demonspork> For anyone who remembers my problem with the slow SSH login, it is traced back to a crappy DNS server provided by the hosting company.
[20:16] <demonspork> now I am just using the google DNS
[20:28] <Qwert> Ubuntu-server runs on tty1. Is it recommended to install KDE or gnome?
[20:43] <mdlueck> Has recognition of USB drives been disabled in Ubuntu Server 10.04 recently? It was working fine about six or seven weeks ago, but not this weekend. Nothing shows up in syslog, and usually I see PnP messages in there.
[20:44]  * RoyK is somehow converting to openindiana these days.....
[20:44] <mdlueck> Both USB HDD's and USB Flash Drives
[21:16] <extor> What version of Xen does ubuntu server include as default?
[21:23] <mdlueck> extor: Depends on the version of ubuntu server, check http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[21:24] <extor> lets say "stable" ubuntu
[21:24] <qman__> extor, if you mean LTS, there are two currently supported LTS versions, 8.04 and 10.04
[21:25] <extor> qman__, I was just concerned whether it would permit me to overcommit RAM
[21:26] <qman__> well, the above link, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ will allow you to find out what version of xen is available for each supported version of ubuntu
[21:26] <mdlueck> extor: Ubuntu is a bit different than Debian... there are multiple "stable" releases at the same time.
[21:27] <extor> looks like 3.3
[21:27] <mdlueck> extor: for a new server, right now I would suggest 10.04 LTS
[21:27] <extor> 3.3.0-1ubuntu11: amd64 i386
[21:27] <extor> lucid
[21:27] <mdlueck> extor: Ja, lucid
[21:28] <qman__> yeah, go with lucid unless you run into hardware issues
[21:28] <extor> I already am running into hardware issues
[21:28] <extor> unfortunately
[21:28] <extor> Under centos 5.5
[21:29] <mdlueck> extor: If you have nothing at this time, make sure you DL the 10.04.1 updated images
[21:29] <qman__> I'm not a fan of centOS
[21:29] <extor> I'm becoming less of a fan of centOS by the day
[21:29] <qman__> but what I was getting at is that lucid has trouble on some obscure graphics cards
[21:30] <qman__> the new KMS and full resolution terminal setup doesn't have quite the same level of compatibility as the old way
[21:30] <extor> qman__, why would graphics matter on a server
[21:30] <extor> I ssh to it anyway
[21:30] <qman__> to install in the first place
[22:19] <corecode> hey
[22:20] <corecode> not sure if this is the right place:  anybody ever converted a mdadm RAID1 to a RAID4?
[22:20] <corecode> and/or expanded a RAID4?
[22:28] <RoyK> corecode: iirc you can't convert a mirror to something else
[22:29] <RoyK> corecode: also, why use raid4 when raid5 is around?
[22:29] <corecode> it is mostly read with low throughput, so i can put one drive to sleep
[22:30] <RoyK> corecode: still, I don't think you can move from a mirror to raid[456] without a backup/restore
[22:30]  * RoyK uses zfs for storage :þ
[22:36] <diana1068> hi everyone!! :)
[22:36] <diana1068> can anybody help with upgrading issue?
[22:38] <RoyK> just ask if you have an issue, but be precise
[22:43] <diana1068> i got a problem with upgrading my current kernel 2.6.32-24.43 to a newer one (2.6.32-25.1)
[22:44] <diana1068> im running ubuntu 10.04 lts
[22:44] <diana1068> i've received the update notification the other day, but couldnt fulfil it properly
[22:44] <diana1068> here is what i get in terminal http://pastebin.com/mWZstfDm
[22:45] <diana1068> (not fully english)
[22:46] <diana1068> i began to receive an errors even afater  after simple adding or removing programs in terminal, synaptic or soft center that failure
[22:47] <diana1068> applications work fine after such a weird installation thou
[22:47] <diana1068> its all about generic kernel i think. thats it. who got an idea?
[22:50] <EvilPhoenix> diana1068:  you'll need another pastebin...
[22:50] <EvilPhoenix> yours expired
[22:50] <diana1068> http://pastebin.com/z6GFJfbQ
[22:52] <EvilPhoenix> lines 34, 35, and 36 explain your main issue
[22:53] <EvilPhoenix> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-generic:  linux-generic depends on linux-image-generic (= 2.6.32.25.27); however:  Package linux-image-generic is not configured yet.
[22:53] <EvilPhoenix> oop
[22:53] <EvilPhoenix> actually
[22:53] <diana1068> so what does it mean?
[22:54] <diana1068> is it serious?
[22:54] <EvilPhoenix> looks like there's more than one dpkg error
[22:54] <EvilPhoenix> i'd wait for the experts to come around though (i'm okay, but they know more than I_
[22:54] <EvilPhoenix> )
[22:56] <diana1068> ok.  thanks anyway :)
[23:01] <JanC> #
[23:01] <JanC> Running postinst hook script /usr/sbin/update-grub.
[23:01] <JanC> #
[23:01] <JanC> /etc/default/grub: 28: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution
[23:01] <JanC> that's the real bug
[23:02] <diana1068> how can i fix it?
[23:04] <JanC> can you put the contents of /etc/default/grub in a pastebin?
[23:04] <JanC> or maybe you can see the problem yourself when you look at that file
[23:05] <JanC> I suppose the problem is in line 28
[23:06] <diana1068> wait...
[23:06] <diana1068> i forgot to mention that i've edited this file before
[23:07] <diana1068> as i got a problems with iverheating of my toshiba's fan
[23:07] <diana1068> http://pastebin.com/6agMSSCq
[23:07] <diana1068> here it is
[23:09] <JanC> hm, no line 28, but the error message is for an error in line 9
[23:09] <JanC> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=force"
[23:10] <JanC> try changing it to that
[23:10] <JanC> diana1068: ^^^
[23:12] <diana1068> this is what im afraid of actually
[23:12] <diana1068> this string is the main thing for the cou fan
[23:13] <JanC> it can never work like it is now  ☺
[23:13] <diana1068> some toshiba's laptops runs ok with that, some nees to be edited in my way
[23:13] <diana1068> but i'll try
[23:13] <JanC> and there is just the " too much
[23:13] <guntbert> diana1068: in line 9 there are 3 quotes (one too much or not enough)
[23:14] <hallyn> hggdh: glad it worked out :)
[23:14] <diana1068> how many quotes should i put there?
[23:14] <diana1068> oh, sorry
[23:14] <diana1068> u've already showed me :)
[23:16] <diana1068> so basically it's just because of quotes??
[23:19] <JanC> diana1068: double quotes inside double quotes doesn't work unless you escape them, but I doubt that it is required there, which is why I removed it
[23:20] <diana1068> its miracle my dear helper !
[23:21] <diana1068> it has updated
[23:21] <diana1068> its miracle my dear helper !
[23:21] <diana1068> i've got no errors inside of terminalits
[23:22] <diana1068> and it seemed to be all because of stupid quotes :)
[23:22] <JanC> and the fans work?  ;)
[23:25] <diana1068> it looks so
[23:25] <diana1068> but how could it work with 3 " before??
[23:27] <diana1068> im going to sleep now. thank u very much. KISSES
[23:27] <JanC> maybe because that line is only used when you run update-grub (which happens automaticly when you install a new kernel)
[23:37] <ruben23> any idea with this guys when i monut ntfs hdd on my ubuntu server4----------------> http://pastebin.com/6MXYhcnD
[23:37] <ruben23> mount ntfs on the additional hdd on my ubuntu server
[23:41] <qman__> ruben23, as the message indicates, there is a problem with your NTFS filesystem which needs to be repaired from within windows