Sarvatti think they are developing this stuff around unity/UNE where utouch is installed by default, having the conffile that moves it from synaptics to evdev in the utouch packages somewhere makes more sense to me00:01
Sarvatti dont even know what gestures you'll get with the utouch stuff, not having tap to click is pretty killer..00:02
Sarvattso i'd be interested in how it wors if you try it out :)00:02
Sarvattjust moving the conffile back and restarting should give you evdev and gestures00:03
Sarvattinstead of just a pointer like before if i'm not mistaken00:04
rbelemSarvatt, the xsession-errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/495590/00:05
rbelemsorry for the delay00:06
Sarvattyou removed it renaming it to .bak earlier btw, movinf it back to .conf reenables it :)00:06
Sarvattthanks rbelem!00:06
Sarvattthis your bug? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/64049700:07
ubot4Launchpad bug 640497 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "KDE fails to load since updates 2010-09-15 (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,New]00:08
Sarvattliterally, i know its the same problem you're having :)00:12
veeneneni'll right, I'll give this reset a try00:20
veenenenno luck with the restart00:26
veenenenI can tell it's capturing the two finger gestures, but none of the taps are working00:27
Sarvatti dont think there's any gesture i'd ever use more than i use tapping :(00:28
veenenenthree button left and right for back and forward is kind of nice on mac00:29
veenenenfour finger up for expose too00:29
brycehyou really should be talking to cnd about this00:29
veeneneni'm in the ubuntu-touch chat right now asking about setting it up, but no response yet00:30
brycehhe's at the X conference in france at the moment00:32
Sarvattyeah cnd is away at the X developer's summit and the other people are probably gone for the weekend or still getting back from the multitouch conference that happened right before it00:32
Sarvattrbelem: looks like they started discussing the problem at the end here but no new info in case you want to keep an eye on the bug too http://bugs.kde.org/24095600:39
rbelemthanks Sarvatt 00:40
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ScottKSarvatt: mgraesslin is going to look at the kwin blacklisting problem tomorrow.  He said it should have been blacklisted already, so there may be a regression.02:12
RAOFScottK: Re bug #633406 - can you verify that this occurs in mesa 7.9~20100909-0ubuntu1?  I think this bug got caused by the attempted mesa workaround for the clutter bug.09:13
ubot4Launchpad bug 633406 in mesa (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 4 other projects) "Display freeze when changing kwin effects settings if effects are active (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 22)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63340609:13
RAOFSarvatt: The magic trackpad gets claimed by evdev now.  Which means it gets multitouch gesture support, but loses two finger scroll, tapping, and such.09:15
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ScottKRAOF: That bug exists with the 7.8.3 mesa, -0ubuntu1, and -0ubuntu2. (commented in the bug too).12:20
RAOFScottK: Well, that's unfortunate.12:59
RAOFScottK: Because the code that it applies to in the 7.9~20100909-0ubuntu2 package is from the patches trying to work around the clutter bug.13:00
RAOFWhich is reverted in the 7.9~20100909-0ubuntu3 package that needs a sponsor ;)13:02
RAOFScottK: I'll look at porting that patch to 7.9, then.13:06
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cndRAOF, bryceh: the synaptics patch didn't get merged properly :(14:00
cndthe patch was put in debian/patches, but not added to series14:00
cndI hope this doesn't have to go through as an SRU...14:01
cndI'm still getting used to what's allowable in an RC freeze14:02
RAOFScottK: I don't see the freeze on 7.9~git20100909-0ubuntu3 (which is basically 7.9~git20100909-0ubuntu1).  Instead, kwin crashes and sometimes locks the GPU.14:50
ScottKRAOF: OK.  I'll try it.  Where can I get ubuntu3?15:23
RAOFScottK: It's 0ubuntu1 with a changelog entry; you can grab the source package from http://www.cooperteam.net/Packages and I can throw the binary packages up there too if you'd like15:27
RAOFYou don't feel like waiting 30 minutes for mesa to build?  Shocking, I say!15:28
ScottKNow if I could remember which 3 of those I need ....15:35
RAOFYou're after libgl1-mesa-glx, libgl1-mesa-dri15:36
ScottKAh.  Those are all 64bit.  I guess I'll just build it.15:38
AlanBellhi all, just wondering if there is anything I can do to help find a solution to bug 61423815:39
ubot4Launchpad bug 614238 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Intel Core i3 External Monitor Wavy Output (affects: 5) (heat: 34)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61423815:39
AlanBellit is like a single pixel wide instability http://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=3600915:40
AlanBellit flickers with the refresh rate and occurs at all resolutions on the vga output only. internal LCD is fine, HDMI output is fin15:41
RAOFScottK: You should be able to grab -0ubuntu1 from launchpad.  It *should* be the same as -0ubuntu3 except for the changelog.15:41
ScottKRAOF: I get the problem with -ubuntu1.16:07
RAOFScottK: Ok.  My hardware clearly remains magical.16:07
ScottKRAOF: What do you think about the patch then (I can adjust it to apply to -ubuntu3)?16:08
RAOFThe code that the patch changes is no longer in ubuntu3; the drawable garbage collection code changed significantly.16:16
RAOFubuntu2 added patches 105..107, which are reverts of commits in 7.9.  If you look at the patch, all the code it touches is in those reverts.16:18
RAOFScottK: I don't know about the patch; I think adjusting it ot apply to -ubuntu3 will result in a significantly different patch.  The patch that applies to -ubuntu2 doesn't look horrible.16:25
SarvattRAOF: did you see that patch was obsoleted and a new patch was added to the upstream bug?16:35
ubot4Freedesktop bug 30220 in GLX "Change windowExistsErrorHandler to drawableExistsErrorHandler in glxcmds.c ?" [Normal,New]16:36
RAOFSarvatt: I only see one patch on that bug?16:37
Sarvattoh it's the second one you're talking about then, ok16:37
RAOFGarbageCollectDRIDrawables doesn't exist in mesa 7.916:38
RAOFSo the patch doesn't apply.16:39
RAOFOk.  We're getting kicked out of the lecture theatre.  Time to bail.16:44
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ScottKRAOF: Now that I look at ubuntu3 mesa I see what you mean.19:27
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soreauppa-purge is broken here http://pastebin.com/d9aHvtMe23:08
soreauThe problem was the script doesn't comment the lines if they have a space in front of them. Line 137 of ppa-purge might could use something like this instead: sed -ri "\:^[^#]+/${PPAOWNER}/${PPANAME}/:s/^[[:blank:]]*deb/# deb/" $LIST23:31
soreauNow it looks like xorg-edgers lucid ppa only has X 1.8.2?23:44

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