[00:01] <Sarvatt> i think they are developing this stuff around unity/UNE where utouch is installed by default, having the conffile that moves it from synaptics to evdev in the utouch packages somewhere makes more sense to me
[00:02] <Sarvatt> i dont even know what gestures you'll get with the utouch stuff, not having tap to click is pretty killer..
[00:02] <Sarvatt> so i'd be interested in how it wors if you try it out :)
[00:03] <Sarvatt> just moving the conffile back and restarting should give you evdev and gestures
[00:04] <Sarvatt> instead of just a pointer like before if i'm not mistaken
[00:05] <rbelem> Sarvatt, the xsession-errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/495590/
[00:06] <rbelem> sorry for the delay
[00:06] <Sarvatt> you removed it renaming it to .bak earlier btw, movinf it back to .conf reenables it :)
[00:06] <Sarvatt> thanks rbelem!
[00:06] <rbelem> :-)
[00:07] <Sarvatt> this your bug? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/640497
[00:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 640497 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "KDE fails to load since updates 2010-09-15 (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,New]
[00:12] <Sarvatt> literally, i know its the same problem you're having :)
[00:20] <veenenen> i'll right, I'll give this reset a try
[00:26] <veenenen> no luck with the restart
[00:27] <veenenen> I can tell it's capturing the two finger gestures, but none of the taps are working
[00:28] <Sarvatt> i dont think there's any gesture i'd ever use more than i use tapping :(
[00:29] <veenenen> three button left and right for back and forward is kind of nice on mac
[00:29] <veenenen> four finger up for expose too
[00:29] <bryceh> you really should be talking to cnd about this
[00:30] <veenenen> i'm in the ubuntu-touch chat right now asking about setting it up, but no response yet
[00:32] <bryceh> he's at the X conference in france at the moment
[00:32] <Sarvatt> yeah cnd is away at the X developer's summit and the other people are probably gone for the weekend or still getting back from the multitouch conference that happened right before it
[00:36] <veenenen> alright
[00:39] <Sarvatt> rbelem: looks like they started discussing the problem at the end here but no new info in case you want to keep an eye on the bug too http://bugs.kde.org/240956
[00:40] <rbelem> sweet!
[00:40] <rbelem> thanks Sarvatt 
[02:12] <ScottK> Sarvatt: mgraesslin is going to look at the kwin blacklisting problem tomorrow.  He said it should have been blacklisted already, so there may be a regression.
[09:13] <RAOF> ScottK: Re bug #633406 - can you verify that this occurs in mesa 7.9~20100909-0ubuntu1?  I think this bug got caused by the attempted mesa workaround for the clutter bug.
[09:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 633406 in mesa (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 4 other projects) "Display freeze when changing kwin effects settings if effects are active (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 22)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/633406
[09:15] <RAOF> Sarvatt: The magic trackpad gets claimed by evdev now.  Which means it gets multitouch gesture support, but loses two finger scroll, tapping, and such.
[12:20] <ScottK> RAOF: That bug exists with the 7.8.3 mesa, -0ubuntu1, and -0ubuntu2. (commented in the bug too).
[12:59] <RAOF> ScottK: Well, that's unfortunate.
[13:00] <RAOF> ScottK: Because the code that it applies to in the 7.9~20100909-0ubuntu2 package is from the patches trying to work around the clutter bug.
[13:02] <RAOF> Which is reverted in the 7.9~20100909-0ubuntu3 package that needs a sponsor ;)
[13:06] <RAOF> ScottK: I'll look at porting that patch to 7.9, then.
[14:00] <cnd> RAOF, bryceh: the synaptics patch didn't get merged properly :(
[14:00] <cnd> the patch was put in debian/patches, but not added to series
[14:01] <cnd> I hope this doesn't have to go through as an SRU...
[14:02] <cnd> I'm still getting used to what's allowable in an RC freeze
[14:50] <RAOF> ScottK: I don't see the freeze on 7.9~git20100909-0ubuntu3 (which is basically 7.9~git20100909-0ubuntu1).  Instead, kwin crashes and sometimes locks the GPU.
[15:23] <ScottK> RAOF: OK.  I'll try it.  Where can I get ubuntu3?
[15:27] <RAOF> ScottK: It's 0ubuntu1 with a changelog entry; you can grab the source package from http://www.cooperteam.net/Packages and I can throw the binary packages up there too if you'd like
[15:27] <ScottK> Please.
[15:28] <RAOF> You don't feel like waiting 30 minutes for mesa to build?  Shocking, I say!
[15:35] <ScottK> Now if I could remember which 3 of those I need ....
[15:36] <RAOF> You're after libgl1-mesa-glx, libgl1-mesa-dri
[15:37] <ScottK> Thanks
[15:38] <ScottK> Ah.  Those are all 64bit.  I guess I'll just build it.
[15:39] <AlanBell> hi all, just wondering if there is anything I can do to help find a solution to bug 614238
[15:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 614238 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Intel Core i3 External Monitor Wavy Output (affects: 5) (heat: 34)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614238
[15:40] <AlanBell> it is like a single pixel wide instability http://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=36009
[15:41] <AlanBell> it flickers with the refresh rate and occurs at all resolutions on the vga output only. internal LCD is fine, HDMI output is fin
[15:41] <RAOF> ScottK: You should be able to grab -0ubuntu1 from launchpad.  It *should* be the same as -0ubuntu3 except for the changelog.
[15:42] <ScottK> OK
[16:07] <ScottK> RAOF: I get the problem with -ubuntu1.
[16:07] <RAOF> ScottK: Ok.  My hardware clearly remains magical.
[16:08] <ScottK> RAOF: What do you think about the patch then (I can adjust it to apply to -ubuntu3)?
[16:16] <RAOF> The code that the patch changes is no longer in ubuntu3; the drawable garbage collection code changed significantly.
[16:18] <RAOF> ubuntu2 added patches 105..107, which are reverts of commits in 7.9.  If you look at the patch, all the code it touches is in those reverts.
[16:25] <RAOF> ScottK: I don't know about the patch; I think adjusting it ot apply to -ubuntu3 will result in a significantly different patch.  The patch that applies to -ubuntu2 doesn't look horrible.
[16:35] <Sarvatt> RAOF: did you see that patch was obsoleted and a new patch was added to the upstream bug?
[16:36] <Sarvatt> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30220
[16:36] <ubot4> Freedesktop bug 30220 in GLX "Change windowExistsErrorHandler to drawableExistsErrorHandler in glxcmds.c ?" [Normal,New]
[16:37] <RAOF> Sarvatt: I only see one patch on that bug?
[16:37] <Sarvatt> oh it's the second one you're talking about then, ok
[16:38] <RAOF> GarbageCollectDRIDrawables doesn't exist in mesa 7.9
[16:39] <RAOF> So the patch doesn't apply.
[16:44] <RAOF> Ok.  We're getting kicked out of the lecture theatre.  Time to bail.
[19:27] <ScottK> RAOF: Now that I look at ubuntu3 mesa I see what you mean.
[23:08] <soreau> ppa-purge is broken here http://pastebin.com/d9aHvtMe
[23:31] <soreau> The problem was the script doesn't comment the lines if they have a space in front of them. Line 137 of ppa-purge might could use something like this instead: sed -ri "\:^[^#]+/${PPAOWNER}/${PPANAME}/:s/^[[:blank:]]*deb/# deb/" $LIST
[23:44] <soreau> Now it looks like xorg-edgers lucid ppa only has X 1.8.2?