[00:01] <tarvid> how do i rescue an installation when X is out of range
[00:02] <sedulous> tarvid: switch to a virtual console, Ctrl-Alt-[F1..F6]
[00:02] <tarvid> I can't get past login
[00:02] <sedulous> try it
[00:02] <tarvid> It is set up for "Default Monitor and horiz is too high
[00:02] <FloridaGuy> ChogyDan, dpkg --configure -a fixed
[00:03] <FloridaGuy> ChogyDan, thanks
[00:03] <ChogyDan> FloridaGuy: cool
[00:03] <tarvid> and I get no boot options either
[00:03] <tarvid> and the 10.4 desktop cd will not boot
[00:04] <coventry> Regarding the resolv.conf issue I mentioned before... an apt-get upgrade has fixed it.  Should have tried it first, rather than in preparing to report the bug...
[00:04] <balleyne> tarvid: what problems are you having booting the desktop installation? Have you tried booting your system into recovery mode through grub?
[00:04] <tarvid> i don't get a grub menu
[00:05] <balleyne> tarvid: sorry, even without the desktop CD. Do you get a grub menu when you boot from the hard drive (even if you need to hit ESC to see the options)?
[00:05] <tarvid> i get the splash and then the monitor says the horiz frewuency is out of range
[00:05] <tarvid> I will try again but it goes directly to splash
[00:06] <balleyne> tarvid: grub might appear for just a second or two before the splash, at least it does on my system (but I might still be using an older version of grub.. I've upgraded since 6.06, not a fresh install of lucid)
[00:07] <balleyne> spitzi: did you get an answer about auto-mounting?
[00:08] <Scoup> I'm using cw23fx and my wireless dont work fine, I has read in forum to update my driver to lasted on. I'm reading http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download to do that, but I not sure about it. Where is this ./scripts/driver-select? Have I use it?
[00:10] <abadabad00> could someone help me transfer files on my network between two Ubuntu 10.04 machines? When I try to connect to folders that are shared for everyone on the network I get "Unable to mount location" "Failed to retrieve share list from server" errors
[00:10] <Morg0th> Hello, I installed Ubuntu on a friend's computer and he did some updates but after that the system can't boot. It says that a file named with hex codes (like 818ac32...) doesn't exist and I get a ash shell. I had a look at the /etc/fstab file with chroot etc and the partition name changed from "/dev/sda4" to the hex name. do you know what could have caused this problem? I changed this line...
[00:10] <Morg0th> ...but I still get this error
[00:11] <ChogyDan> Morg0th: probably a UUID
[00:11] <ChogyDan> !UUID | Morg0th
[00:11] <Morg0th> ok thank's I'll look into that
[00:12] <ChogyDan> Morg0th: if you pastebin the errors and fstab, Im sure someone could help out
[00:13] <Morg0th> okay I'll try to do that but I'm not on this computer now. I'll try to look for the UUID thing and if I can't figure it out I'll try to pastebin it. thanks
[00:13] <s_ongs> anyone already experienced mouse clicks issues/temporary freeze with lucid lynx? ty in advance
[00:15] <etrnl> ugggh, anyone have experience with manual touchscreen calibration? Trying to figure out the logic with minx, maxx, miny, maxy values
[00:15] <tarvid> balleyne, thanks, banging the ESC key in the dark got me in
[00:16] <balleyne> tarvid: nice :)
[00:16] <tarvid> How would one fix the default monitor settings and the lack of detection on this monitor?
[00:16] <balleyne> tarvid: that, I can't help you with unfortunately, because I'm not too familiar with the setup in 10.04, and I have to run. Good luck though!
[00:16] <mark_> join
[00:17] <mark_> JOIN #ubuntu
[00:17] <iShawnW> anyone in here run ubuntu on a studio15? I want to know how your battery life is
[00:18] <mark_> JOIN ubuntu
[00:18] <balleyne> mark_: you're in #ubuntu already :)
[00:18] <prayii> iShawnW: i run it on an XPS M1530 and I have a friend who runs it on a studio 15. it is comparable to windows 7 battery time.
[00:18] <WXZ> can I somehow get synaptic package manger to show the same packages even if it's different versions
[00:18] <balleyne> mark_: the command you were trying to run was probably "/join #ubuntu", but no need to, you're already here :)
[00:18] <iShawnW> prayii: ok, so about 4-6 hours
[00:18] <ComradeHaz`> Hi all. Trying to install Ubuntu on a machine but having video problems. The menu to selct 'run live cd', 'install', check disc for errors' etc shows up but as soon as I select one of those the video output turns off. If I leave it having selected run from cd I get the ubuntu startup drums. Please assist! :D FWIW, Windows installs and runs fine.
[00:19] <WXZ> for example, I have karmic and maverick repositories, when I search for tomboy I don't see tomboy v.1.0 (which is in the karmic repository)
[00:19] <prayii> iShawnW: well I get 2 hours on my XPS. I don't know what my friend gets on average. I'll ask him real quick. What size battery did you get with it?
[00:19] <mark_> thanks
[00:19] <rexn> anyone know of an equivalent to "Giver" that's cross platform? http://code.google.com/p/giver/
[00:19] <iShawnW> prayii: 9 cell
[00:20] <bazhang> WXZ, mixing repos is explicitly not supported
[00:20] <WXZ> why?
[00:21] <mark_> Help with ubuntu 10.10, installed to HDD, gives me "minimal GRUB-like" command line...i'm stuck there. Help Please.
[00:21] <bazhang> WXZ, instability and breakage
[00:21] <bazhang> mark_, #ubuntu+1 for 10.10
[00:21] <spitzi> Hi. Something seems misconfigured in my UBuntu: In pysdm, both partitions sda1 and sdb2 are mapped to /dev/sdb2. sda1 is in fact my WinXP partition, how can I redirect it so in pysdm ?
[00:21] <IdleOne> WXZ: because it causes things like not seeing packages you know are supposed to be there
[00:21] <WXZ> ok, so I'm supposed to have 1 repository at a time?
[00:21] <bazhang> WXZ, yes.
[00:21] <mark_> join/ #ubuntu1
[00:21] <WXZ> that's... weird :\
[00:21] <mark_> join/ #ubuntu+1
[00:22] <bazhang> mark_, /j #channel
[00:22] <prayii> iShawnW: i think I have the 6-cell. Asking my friend what he has now
[00:22] <WXZ> why do I even have the option to checkmark multiple repositories then?
[00:22] <bazhang> WXZ, you would not. not for that.
[00:22] <iShawnW> prayii: for comparison http://pastebin.com/0w89PFse (its new)
[00:22] <IdleOne> WXZ: there are multiple repos but you should only have the repos for the version you are running
[00:23] <WXZ> what if I need older versions of applications idleone?
[00:23] <IdleOne> WXZ: so you would have main, Universe, Multiverse, possibly Partner and Backports
[00:23] <WXZ> which I do, yes
[00:24] <WXZ> I also added main, universe, multiverse and partner from an old version of ubuntu
[00:24] <crucialhoax> My parents HDD is about to take a dump, will clonezilla image the hard drive so I dont have to repurchase windows?
[00:24] <IdleOne> WXZ: but if you are running karmic, you shouldn't mix universe from karmic and maverick.
[00:24] <bazhang> WXZ, back up your data asap
[00:24] <WXZ> I'm running maverick
[00:24] <bazhang> WXZ, then in #ubuntu+1 please
[00:25] <IdleOne> WXZ: then you don't need the karmic repos and yeah #ubuntu+1
[00:25] <WXZ> ok, non-maverick specific question then...
[00:25] <st> crucialhoax, OEM one?
[00:25] <bazhang> WXZ, no, you are running maverick, so questions there
[00:25] <prayii> iShawnW: my friend says he averages 6 hours or a little less
[00:25] <WXZ> ok
[00:25] <crucialhoax> st: Yes. It was the OEM drive that is failing
[00:26] <nellie> looking to buy a good agp nvidia graphics card to run with ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10 and found the geforce 5200 and 6200 but need to know if there are any problems running any opengl or linux games with them
[00:26] <iShawnW> prayii: thanks dude, sounds good I may take the switch then and go back to a no windows setup.
[00:26] <st> crucialhoax, no, but you could just clone hd and it should not invalidate activation
[00:26] <ectospasm> nellie: why such an old chipset?
[00:26] <nellie> I only have agp slot
[00:26] <ectospasm> nellie: ah, that'd do it
[00:26] <crucialhoax> st: I know I can do that, but what software do I use? Clone Zilla?
[00:37] <spitzi> Any idea about the pysdm issue ?
[00:38] <spitzi> Ah, is my nick identified ? Can you see what I write ?
[00:38] <orgthingy> hello, how do i change a folder's permission-settings (as in, who can write, read, who is it for..etc) using the terminal?
[00:39] <soner> orgthingy: man chmod
[00:39] <orgthingy> ah, right, chmod
[00:39] <soner> =)
[00:39] <orgthingy> chmod +x i think
[00:39] <soner> chmod +x makes a program executable
[00:39] <ComradeHaz`> Gentlemen, is there really nobody around who is able to make some suggestions about my little issue?
[00:39] <orgthingy> oh >.<
[00:39] <soner> chmod 777 e.g. makes a file read and writable for everyone
[00:40] <orgthingy> soner: so what command do you suggest me to write?
[00:40] <orgthingy> chmod <whatever> 777 ?
[00:40] <b0tz> ComradeHaz` what issue
[00:40] <soner> orgthingy: do you want to change the rights for a file or a folder?
[00:40] <ComradeHaz`> Trying to install Ubuntu on a machine but having video problems. The menu to select 'run live cd', 'install', 'check disc for errors' etc shows up but as soon as I select one of those the video output turns off. If I leave it having selected run from cd I get the ubuntu startup drums, so it's clearly booting. FWIW, Windows installs and runs fine.
[00:41] <orgthingy> a whole folder with subfolders, soner
[00:41] <b0tz> Ahhhh... I had the same error before.. hm
[00:41] <b0tz> i think its something to do with monitor modes
[00:41] <b0tz> i used a different monitor and it loaded & i installed just fi ne
[00:41] <b0tz> then when i plugged in other monitor it booted into gnome perfectly
[00:41] <ComradeHaz`> It also appears to be GPU dependant.
[00:41] <soner> then you have to use chmod -R <permissions> <folder>
[00:41] <b0tz> yeah
[00:41] <orgthingy> soner: ah, ok i see
[00:42] <soner> orgthingy: just replace <permissions> with the numbers :D i don't know which permissions you want to set
[00:42] <abadabad00> could someone help me transfer files on my network between two Ubuntu 10.04 machines? When I try to connect to folders that are shared for everyone on the network I get "Unable to mount location" "Failed to retrieve share list from server" errors
[00:42] <root_>    gcqsdf
[00:42] <ComradeHaz`> abadabad00, look into nfs
[00:43] <soner> orgthingy: I'm not really familiar with chmod myself
[00:43] <abadabad00> gee... thanks
[00:44] <etrnl> nyone have experience with manual touchscreen calibration? Trying to figure out the logic with minx, maxx, miny, maxy values
[00:44] <ComradeHaz`> lol abadabad00, look into it. Ask more questions when you get stuck :D
[00:44] <abadabad00> etrnl: look into x
[00:45] <etrnl> abadabad00: any suggestions on where to start with that? x graphics?
[00:45] <abadabad00> etrnl: ask comradeHaz
[00:45] <ComradeHaz`> abadabad00, you asked a very general question that begged a fairly general answer.
[00:45] <ComradeHaz`> :D
[00:45] <ComradeHaz`> No, don't, I'm too busy heloing abadabad00
[00:45] <ComradeHaz`> :D
[00:45] <lappy> Hello!
[00:45] <ComradeHaz`> Morning.
[00:46] <soner> ComradeHaz`: It's night here :p
[00:46] <ComradeHaz`> 00:45 here. Morning.
[00:46] <ComradeHaz`> Very, very early morning.
[00:47] <lappy> I just have a quick question. I need the command to check for what wireless chipset I have..
[00:47] <etrnl> abadabad00: just not sure where to start with looking
[00:47] <soner> heh, that's kinda night
[00:47] <abadabad00> etrnl: join the club
[00:47] <ComradeHaz`> etrnl, welcome to our world!
[00:47] <bazhang> lappy, lspci if pci lsusb if usb
[00:48] <ComradeHaz`> I know, soner, but it's deffienately not evening
[00:48] <bazhang> !ot
[00:48] <etrnl> I mean it doesn't seem like the values have anything to do with screen position
[00:48] <ComradeHaz`> and 'night' doesn't really work as a greeting.
[00:48] <lappy> bazhang, Thankyou.
[00:48] <soner> ComradeHaz`: you're right. it sounds strange greeting with a "good night everybody"
[00:48] <abadabad00> etrnl: sounds like classic open source logic
[00:49]  * ComradeHaz` tentatively pokes b0tz
[00:49] <abadabad00> etrnl: :)
[00:49] <spizti> Hi. Can you see what I write ?
[00:49] <ComradeHaz`> Did you have anything else to add about my little issue/
[00:49] <ComradeHaz`> spitzi, Yes.
[00:50] <Scoup> how can I restart the wireless driver?
[00:50] <soner> Scoup: try rmmod then modprobe
[00:50] <Scoup> ty
[00:51] <soner> np
[00:51] <soner> Scoup: tell us if it worked ;)
[00:51] <Scoup> rmmod needs the module name
[00:52] <spizti> And ... can you see what I wrote now ?! "1234"
[00:52] <nogo> 1234?
[00:52] <bazhang> spizti, yes. ask a question
[00:52] <spizti> Oh good, [hew
[00:52] <flowbee> is there a way to paste into the ubuntu command line terminal window (without using the mouse)?
[00:52] <nogo> your capcha sucks
[00:53] <bazhang> nogo, ?
[00:53] <soner> Scoup: yeah, you need to know which module you want to unload
[00:53] <pablo__> yes
[00:53] <prayii> flowbee: ctrl+shift+v
[00:53] <pablo__> ctrl+ins
[00:53] <soner> Scoup: do you know if the module starts on boot?
[00:53] <nogo> soner, /etc/modules
[00:53] <Scoup> soner, i dont =/ I'm trying to install a newer wireless driver
[00:53] <flowbee> prayii, cursor changes for a second but nothing happens
[00:54] <Scoup> and my first try didnt work, i guess is because i didnt restart
[00:54] <nogo> soner, you can add what you want, if ubuntu doesn't pick them up
[00:54] <prayii> flowbee: are you sure you have something copied to the clipboard?
[00:54] <spizti> Anyway, the question is: why does pysdm show paritions sda1 and sdb2 to be both mapped to same device /dev/sdb2, even though sda1 is definitely my WinXP partition on another hard disk ?
[00:55] <flowbee> prayii, yes i even right clicked copy after highlighting something on my terminal window
[00:55] <prayii> g copied to the clipboard?
[00:55] <prayii> g copied to the clipboard?
[00:55] <prayii> when you right-click and Paste it works, but not with ctrl+shift+v?
[00:55] <Kage> When ever I play a dvd the image looks very \
[00:55] <Kage> pixellated
[00:55] <nogo> spizti: maybe you can use uuid mount
[00:55] <soner> Scoup: since I am not using ubuntu I am pretty useless for you now.. perhaps someone else is able to help you here
[00:56] <flowbee> setting up top level get repo.  any point to having the tag/branch/trunk mentality we had with subversion; or should i just put my app code in root git repo?\\
[00:56] <Scoup> soner, ty for help, I guess I will restart the ubuntu, will restart the wireless, right?
[00:56] <nogo> Scoup: so?
[00:57] <ZekeS> ... question: how would I go about changing what wireless driver I use?  The system has iwlagn loaded, whereas the wiki indicates that my Intel 5300 should be using iwlwifi.  (this would also help fix my network working at 1/10 the speed it does in windows, I bet)
[00:57] <soner> Scoup: i guess so
[00:57] <Scoup> ill try that ?P
[00:57] <soner> ok
[00:57] <soner> gl
[00:59] <Evan0> hi, how do you sudo an account? i have this server running and it has its own username and everything
[01:00] <soner> Evan0: try visudo
[01:01] <soner> as root
[01:01] <soner> Evan0: then navigate to the part commented with "User privilege specification"
[01:02] <victorhugo> Hi, i used "make install" command to compile and install a program. But, how do I remove this program now?
[01:02] <soner> Evan0: and add the user name in the exact format as the user root
[01:02] <soner> victorhugo: did you install the program via the packet manager?
[01:02] <Scoup> soner, no lucky with wireless, do u know if wireless kernel have a channel?
[01:02] <soner> Scoup: I'm sorry I don't have a clue
[01:02] <victorhugo> soner: no, i didn't.
[01:02] <crucialhoax> What free software e.g. Clonezilla will allow me to clone and restore a hard drive?
[01:03] <soner> victorhugo: I'm not very familiar with the make command but I always thought make install just creates a package for your packet manager which you have to install manually
[01:03] <prayii> crucialhoax: gparted?
[01:03] <etheretic> crucialhoax: partimage?
[01:04] <bazhang> crucialhoax, clonezilla remastersys
[01:04] <victorhugo> soner: thank you! but, if I use apt-get remove program, then I will remove it
[01:04] <nogo> crucialhoax: can clonezilla handle ubuntu's hard links well?
[01:05] <Evan0> soner: thanks
[01:05] <soner> Evan0: np
[01:05] <nogo> in ubuntu, there are so many hard links
[01:05] <soner> victorhugo: yes you can remove the program with aptitude
[01:06] <victorhugo> soner: well, i tried it here but it did not work
[01:06] <crucialhoax> bazhang: Will clonezilla allow me to reimage a widows hard drive? my parents windows drive is failing
[01:06] <soner> can you execute the program?
[01:06] <nogo> aptitude, synaptic and ubuntu software center, which should we use?
[01:07] <crucialhoax> nogo: either will work, persnally i never use aptitude I use apt-get
[01:07] <nogo> crucialhoax: did you image it in offline mode?
[01:08] <victorhugo> soner: if I install the same program via apt-get, will I have conflicts?
[01:08] <crucialhoax> nogo: I have not imaged it yet, I am asking if it will work..
[01:08] <nogo> ...
[01:08] <bazhang> crucialhoax, windows in ##windows please
[01:08] <nogo> i guess, the clonezilla is just a dummy cloner
[01:09] <nogo> for daily backups
[01:09] <ZekeS> bazhang: look up SysRecCD?
[01:09] <bazhang> ZekeS, for what?
[01:09] <Emanon> hey all trying to set up a vpn server on lucid followed instructions on ubunut wiki but i cant connect to the server any help?
[01:09] <ZekeS> err
[01:09] <ZekeS> wrong hilight
[01:09] <ZekeS> I think
[01:10] <bazhang> ZekeS, crucialhoax I bet
[01:10] <soner> victorhugo: no you won't have problems because apt-get will check for conflicts with other packages (i hope.. I don't use ubuntu)
[01:10] <ZekeS> crucialhoax: try SysRecCd, it shounds like what you're trying to do
[01:10] <Emanon> oh my mistake the wiki was what i was on earlier i tried another tut
[01:10] <[styx]> !learnlist
[01:10] <Emanon> still any help would be appreciated
[01:10] <ZekeS> bazhang: yep.  Now, to fix my wifi card
[01:10] <ZekeS> :(
[01:10] <crucialhoax> ZekeS: Ok, Ill try that.
[01:12] <prayii> soner: what do you use?
[01:12] <soner> prayii: archlinux
[01:12] <prayii> soner: just bored and feel like helping out tonight?
[01:12] <crucialhoax> ZekeS: Sysreccd is a no go
[01:12] <nogo> there is a archhurd now
[01:12] <soner> prayii: kind of :D
[01:13] <nogo> the archlinux is closed
[01:13] <nogo> the channel
[01:13] <soner> prayii: I'm just bored ... since everyone is idling in nearly EVERY other channel I'm hanging around in a more comfortable chan like #ubuntu
[01:13] <bazhang> !ot | nogo
[01:14] <spizti> nogo - what's a uuid mount. And how the &^%* do I make my XChat stop telling me who joins and leaves the channel ?
[01:14] <bazhang> !blkid | spizti
[01:14] <bazhang> spizti, right click channel hide joins parts, or set in preferences
[01:15] <prayii> Question: What would be the recommended way of removing a windows partition located after Ubuntu? Just loading up gparted and formatting?
[01:16] <bazhang> prayii, removing and then resizing ? gparted live cd? ubuntu live cd?
[01:16] <knoedel_> hi, will texlive 2010 be inluded in ubuntu 10.10?
[01:17] <prayii> bazhang: gparted live cd - not sure if i would merge with ubuntu or load a different OS yet
[01:17] <bazhang> knoedel_, #ubuntu+1 for 10.10 discussion and support please
[01:17] <knoedel_> ok, sorry and thanks
[01:18] <bazhang> prayii, gparted live cd is what I would yes
[01:19] <prayii> bazhang: could I just delete the partition and resize the ubuntu partition to include the extra space without harm to ubuntu?
[01:19] <spizti> bazhang - huhhhhhh ... much better
[01:19] <scriptfreeze> hey all
[01:21] <MarkSS> What is a good program to teach yourself C programming language with in Ubuntu?
[01:22] <Humle> Study the Linux kernel.
[01:22] <MarkSS> Why?
[01:22] <etrnl> why not?
[01:23] <Humle> Because the Linux kernel is written in C.
[01:23] <Humle> And machine asm.
[01:23] <prayii> MarkSS: the best way to learn C would be to get a good book
[01:23] <spizti> nogo - back to the original question: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/jU79tiCT
[01:23] <Humle> K&R is the book on C.
[01:23] <benkong2> hey all
[01:23] <Humle> C was invented when Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie wrote Unix, the first portable OS.
[01:24] <benkong2> I did something that causes nautilus to start up in my home directory each time
[01:24] <etrnl> Really wish I could understand how these x,y values work for touchscreen calibration
[01:24] <Kage> Best way to *start* learning programming is a book
[01:24] <prayii> ^^
[01:24] <benkong2> I checked .config/autostart /etc/xdg/autostart and startup programs not there
[01:24] <Kage> but you do need to study code examples of real cases
[01:24] <soner> benkong2: you can change the starting directory of nautilus in the settings
[01:24] <benkong2> where else can I look I am running lucid x86_64
[01:25] <etrnl> Yeah its always good looking at code examples
[01:25] <PaulB> when isntalling ubuntu how much is a good amount of swap space to give?
[01:25] <crucialhoax> I have Miro internet tv installed and it is now the default program that handles torrents, how do I change it back to Transmission?
[01:25] <benkong2> soner: no I don't want it to start
[01:25] <crucialhoax> PaulB: Usually Double your ram
[01:25] <crucialhoax> PaulB: It depends tho, if your running a high end machine with 6GB its unlikely you even use the swap space.
[01:25] <soner> benkong2: did I understand your problem correct? you start nautilus and each time you see your personal folder on start?
[01:25] <frobisher>  MarkSS:install google chrome from the brepo's.Type in c programming.
[01:26] <benkong2> soner: no when I login in nautilus starts and I do not want that
[01:26] <prayii> crucialhoax: right click on a .torrent file and go to Properties >> Opens With
[01:26] <crucialhoax> prayii: Darn it, I knew it was something simple!
[01:26] <etrnl> :P
[01:26] <soner> benkong2: oh ok .. then I got your question wrong
[01:27] <benkong2> soner: ok
[01:27] <benkong2> it must be in some autostart somewhere
[01:28] <etrnl> ok have my resolution at 1280x1024, and calibration at 800, 2560, 800, 2048
[01:28] <etrnl> hmmm
[01:29] <crucialhoax> prayii: I did that and it still defaults to Miro..
[01:30] <etrnl> this doesn't make sense at all and I've googled the crap out of this
[01:32] <prayii> crucialhoax: odd.. sounds like Miro is trying to hold onto them. See if theres a setting in Miro to turn this off?
[01:32] <bazhang> crucialhoax, do you even use Miro? why not just uninstall it
[01:33] <seeir> Hi.  I'm an Ubuntu newbie - just installed Mint, and am looking for "linux-backports-modules-jaunty" to fix a wireless problem on a Compaq CQ-61 laptop.  apt-get says it can't find the package.  :-(  Is there maybe a newer version of the package appropriate for lucid lynx?
[01:33] <crucialhoax> bazhang: I dont use it, So I am going to uninstall it. prayii I will try that as well just to see :)
[01:33] <bazhang> seeir, check mintsupport as thats not supported here
[01:33] <jfcaron_> ls
[01:33] <bazhang> !mintsupport | seeir
[01:34] <hicham_> exit
[01:34] <jfcaron_> Is this an inappropriate channel to ask for help running World of Warcraft in wine?
[01:34] <jfcaron_> (Under Ubuntu_
[01:34] <rusivi> May one perform an advanced Launchpad query where it filters for just 'package' (ubuntu) ?
[01:34] <etrnl> think it would be worth it to downgrade to Hardy to see if these drivers work?
[01:34] <etrnl> for this touchscreen
[01:34] <bazhang> jfcaron_, #winehq would likely suit better
[01:35] <seeir> Thanks, all.  I'll look there for help, though I think in this case the problem is a more general one, since I've seen trouble reports on the issue relating to Ubunto:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7717667 .
[01:35] <jk_> I have an NFS problem: I'm exporting the entire directory tree of one machine specifically to another, but on the receiving machine the exported /home directory (/net/xubuntu/home) shows up as empty. All other directories show their full content; only /home seems to be blocked. It actually contains two user directories plus lost+found, and has r-x permissions for everyone. Anyone have any ideas what could be causing this?
[01:35] <jfcaron_> bazhanh: Thanks, I had tried #wine, I'll go to #winehq.
[01:35] <bazhang> seeir, you running ubuntu or mint
[01:35] <seeir> At the moment I'm running mint.
[01:36] <bazhang> seeir, okay then check their support
[01:36] <seeir> I've tried Ubuntu and Debian also.
[01:36] <seeir> Ubuntu and derivatives have a problem on this machine that seems related to BIOS support.  The machine sometimes hangs up right after login to the GUI interface.
[01:37] <pap> ss
[01:38] <spizti> Aaargh, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7vhqZM7V
[01:40] <rallias> where do I find the current kernels configuration file?
[01:42] <etrnl> in xorg.conf.d/, what's the number prefix for each file? is that load order?
[01:42] <etrnl> eg: 05 would run before 10
[01:42] <subspider> what prgram can i install to scashule hibernation and wake up linux
[01:42] <subspider> ??
[01:42] <ultratek> where do i go for maverick qs?
[01:42] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 ultratek
[01:43] <ultratek> ty
[01:43] <seekr> Hi.  I'm an Mint newbie - just installed Mint, and am looking for "linux-backports-modules-jaunty" to fix a wireless problem on a Compaq CQ-61 laptop.  apt-get says it can't find the package.  :-(  Is there maybe a newer version of the package appropriate for lucid lynx?
[01:43] <bazhang> seekr, please stop asking for mintsupport here.
[01:44] <seekr> oooooooooooooooooops - wrong channel  --  sorry
[01:44] <mattfury> hello i thought kernel 2.6.35 had atheros ar1xxx support?
[01:44] <seekr> bazhang - I slipped - meant to send that note to #mint...
[01:44] <wasnik> hi installed ubuntu lucid, but no sounds. system does not detect sound cards. lshw does not show up any audio hardware either
[01:44] <lee_> >> seeker < mint 7 will support laptop wifi no proplem
[01:45] <spitzi> quit
[01:45] <soner> wasnik: did you add yourself to the "audio" group?
[01:45] <soner> wasnik: gpasswd -a <user> audio
[01:45] <wasnik> soner: yeah did that too
[01:45] <mattfury> im trying to install atheros wired eth0 support and no sucess
[01:46] <wasnik> soner: still have same problem
[01:46] <wasnik> soner: actually i dont have a proc/asound file
[01:46] <soner> wasnik: sry, I don't have a clue..
[01:46] <lee_> is there a site to get pre-configed compiz settings??
[01:47] <wasnik> hey guys i dont have a proc/asound file. no sound cards detected in lshw or aplay-l, just installed ubuntu
[01:48] <lee_> wasnik, you'd be best checking the forum.. with the make of your sound card..
[01:49] <wasnik> lee_: I have a compaq laptop with integrated sound, how do i figure out make of soundcard
[01:49] <lee_> oh sorry,, i thought u said sound card
[01:49] <niteshade> i guess you could google your model of laptop, and find the specs
[01:49] <niteshade> the make and model should be on the bottom
[01:50] <wasnik> niteshade: nothing comes up, all that comes up is that it is integrated sound
[01:50] <steve3030> Do I copy my .ssh folder off of my other machine if I want to have the same identity on both?  In terms of git repositories and things?
[01:50] <mattfury> where is the linux mint channel anyone???
[01:50] <lee_> wasnik, u get ur drivers?? graphic drivers etc??
[01:50] <niteshade> have you already erased windows on it?
[01:50] <bazhang> !mintsupport > mattfury
[01:50] <wasnik> lee_: the compaq website has drivers only for windows
[01:51] <niteshade> yeah, but if you go into windows, and go to device manager, it should show you what "it" sees, and if it works on windows you at least have something to go on
[01:51] <FloridaGuy> isent jockey supose to show a list of video drivers
, last attempt. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7vhqZM7V
[01:51] <lee_> using the hardware driver search : system / Admin / Hardware Drivers <
[01:51] <niteshade> of course, if it came with windows, all the specs it shows you should be the right ones
[01:52] <mattfury> thx bazhang
[01:52] <niteshade> then, you just google linux drivers for the shit you wrote down from device manager in windows
[01:52] <niteshade> of course, that is unless you wiped out everything and installed linux overtop (idiot)
[01:53] <IdleOne> niteshade: no need to insult
[01:53] <niteshade> sorry
[01:53] <Trian3> Hey all...
[01:53] <niteshade> it's just that when you do that you have nothing to fall back on if the install didn't go well.
[01:53] <niteshade> it just kinda an idiot move
[01:54] <niteshade> sorry for being harsh tho
[01:54] <Trian3> Do any of you have a few minutes to help a linux newbie having boot issues?
[01:54] <niteshade> brb, i'm getting a soda
[01:54] <IdleOne> niteshade: be helpful without the harshness please
[01:55] <nellie> GeForce 7600 agp has opengl 2.0 support. is this any good for playing linux games and or basic ms games under wine?
[01:55] <Trian3> Nothing I've tried has worked.
[01:55] <Trian3> I'm sure it's something ridiculously simple.
[01:55] <IdleOne> Trian3: be more specific about what is not working
[01:56] <niteshade> it does kinda feel good when i get a question that i can actually answer tho.  It makes me feel like i'm not a total idiot
[01:56] <bazhang> nellie, sure will do
[01:56] <lee_> nautilus restart command??
[01:56] <Trian3> IdleOne:  Upon trying to boot, I get the following error:
[01:56] <bazhang> nellie, check appdb if the game itself will run
[01:56] <Trian3> DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER
[01:57] <seba> Sorry I have a problem with the game "Tremulous", when start it say "monitor out of range"
[01:57] <nellie> bazhang,  thanks, not playing anything too high end just simple games
[01:57] <niteshade> uh, how did you install the filesystems when you were installing, trihan3?
[01:57] <Bridge|> how do i find out a partitions current name the type of name that looks like 78b4bfb8b4fbb6aa??
[01:57] <dewman> I am waiting for "floodbot4 kicks floodbot2"
[01:57] <niteshade> * trian3
[01:58] <IdleOne> Bridge|: sudo blkid
[01:58] <Bridge|> ty
[01:58] <niteshade> i guess what i'm saying is: did it ever boot?
[01:58] <lee_> Trian3, try going into BIOS and setting to default setting.. might be u have a couple of hard-drives.. BIOS will find boot-able 1
[01:58] <seba> Sorry I have a problem with the game "Tremulous", when start it say "monitor out of range"
[01:59] <Trian3> I've reinstalled multiple times, but as of this latest install, no it hasn't booted successfully.
[01:59] <Trian3> I can boot off the liveCD, of course, but otherwise...
[01:59] <niteshade> seba: it sounds like the resolution it's trying to run at is too much for your monitor
[01:59] <brandon__> anyone experiened gimp users? id like to make GIMP have a photoshop-like interface (MDI) and read a few posts about a buggy modification made a few years ago to do it, is it any better now or is there another way to do it?
[01:59] <lee_> try that tho,, BIOS to default
[01:59] <coerciblegerm> @seba: check autogen.cfg and make sure the screen resolution matches your actual resolution
[01:59] <niteshade> If you can find a config file for it and adjust that then it would probably fix it
[02:00] <tensorpudding> brandon__: there is such a thing already, called gimpshop
[02:00] <bazhang> brandon__, there's a gimp channel
[02:00] <Trian3> Lee, I currently only have 1 drive connected.
[02:00] <brandon__> figured someone could answer here bahzang, but thanks for the info
[02:00] <brandon__> thanks tensorpudding
[02:01] <lee_> kk,, laptop / pc / notebook?
[02:01] <seba> OK... It was playing good but... something hapend
[02:01] <Trian3> PC
[02:01] <Trian3> SATA HD's
[02:01] <brandon__> tensorpudding, have you used it?
[02:01] <Trian3> I partitioned as follows:
[02:01] <tensorpudding> brandon__: no
[02:01] <brandon__> kk
[02:02] <brandon__> thanks for the info though, hopefully its not as bug as people were saying it was in 2007
[02:02] <tensorpudding> brandon__: actually now that i think of it, i'm not sure gimpshop is still supported
[02:02] <Trian3> boot - 100GB, root - 20GB, home - 610GB, swap - 7.7GB
[02:02] <Trian3> Boot is set as bootable
[02:02] <tensorpudding> brandon__: it probably is matched to a really old version of gimp
[02:03] <brandon__> tensorpudding, their forums seem semi-active
[02:03] <bazhang> Trian3, 100GB for /boot ?
[02:03] <niteshade> why would you set the boot partition to 100gb?
[02:03] <Bridge|> Grub2: No such device: 78B4BFB8B4FBB6AA  / Grub2 Line 2: No such partition    /    using sudo blkid confirms device name is correct, this is same name in grub.cfg, tried sudo grub-install, it findws windows 7 but nothing changes
[02:03] <Trian3> type
[02:03] <Trian3> MB
[02:03] <Trian3> typo
[02:03] <niteshade> and exactly how HUGE is your friggin hard drive!?
[02:03] <idefixx> can anyone tell me what greeter xubuntu uses? I mean does it use the gome greeter or some other package (name would be nice if its a different package)
[02:03] <lee_> Trian3, run in termin > sudo update-grub .. what comes up?
[02:03] <Trian3> HD is 640GB
[02:04] <niteshade> damn, how much did you pay for it?
[02:04] <Bridge|> p.s. backtrack4 live cd is what fubars my grub
[02:04] <lee_> terminal : sudo update-grub
[02:04] <niteshade> anyway, is boot on the start of the hard drive?
[02:04] <Trian3> "Could not find /boot/grub/menu.lst file."  Asking to create (y/n)
[02:04] <niteshade> cause you can't just partition it like any other partition
[02:05] <lee_> y
[02:05] <Trian3> BTW, I just reinstalled GRUB in an attempt to fix this.  I noticed that it installed grub, but uninstalled grub-pc.
[02:05] <bazhang> Trian3, what version of ubuntu
[02:05] <Bridge|> prob hav grub2, menu.lst is for grub(1)
[02:05] <Trian3> Ubuntu 10.04
[02:05] <niteshade> what i would suggest is that you boot into a live cd (maybe knoppix?) and try to install grub manually.  Never done it myself, but i think it's possible
[02:05] <tensorpudding> grub-pc is grub 2, you probably shouldn't get rid of it
[02:05] <Trian3> Ok, it created the menu.lst file
[02:05] <bazhang> Trian3, there is not menu.lst for 10.04
[02:06] <tensorpudding> because it might well be that ubuntu's kernel packages will break in the future without grub 2
[02:06] <lee_> Trian3, run : sudo apt-get install grub2
[02:06] <Trian3> Bazhang: What do you mean?  It just created one.
[02:06] <bazhang> Trian3, that seems wrong
[02:06] <i_is_broke> how do you reset the taskbars in gnome?
[02:07] <Trian3> Hold on a sec...  I'm getting help from several people at once now.
[02:07] <bazhang> !grub2 | Trian3 please have a read
[02:07] <niteshade> lee_ if his system won't boot, then how would he get into a terminal and type that?  (Let alone getting on the net with it)
[02:07] <Bridge|> anyone an idea as to why grub2 isnt finding this windows 7 partition after backtrack fubar'd it, it has the right name...
[02:07] <bazhang> !resetpanels | i_is_broke
[02:07] <Trian3> I'm going to have to zero in on one.
[02:07] <lee_> live CD
[02:07] <tensorpudding> lee_: you'd have to chroot
[02:07] <niteshade> eh, but that would install it to a ramdisk and not the hard drive
[02:07] <IdleOne> Trian3: see the grub2 factoid and re-install grub2 (10.04 comes with grub2)
[02:07] <niteshade> oh yeah
[02:07] <amtoon> Hello
[02:07] <i_is_broke> bazhang, thanks that worked.:D
[02:08] <niteshade> chroot
[02:08] <bazhang> Bridge|, you're using backtrack or ubuntu
[02:08] <lee_> chroot?
[02:08] <Bridge|> ubuntu
[02:08] <tensorpudding> which means, making a bunch of mount points for your partitions
[02:08] <Bridge|> i just stuck bt3 in once
[02:08] <Trian3> IdleOne:  Ok.  Installing Grub2 will uninstall Grub1, yeah?
[02:08] <Bridge|> and this is what happend
[02:08] <Bridge|> bt4*
[02:08] <IdleOne> Trian3: yeah it should replace it
[02:08] <tensorpudding> lee_: yeah, if you run that command from the live cd, it will try to install the package on the livecd
[02:08] <bazhang> Bridge|, the grub2 wiki should fix that for you as well then
[02:09] <Trian3> Ok, doing that now through the package manager
[02:09] <lee_> no it wont
[02:09] <Bridge|> i tried grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb and it finds windows 7 but nothing changes afyer
[02:09] <Bridge|> after*
[02:09] <tensorpudding> lee_: it won't?
[02:09] <amtoon> For the first time try Xchat :)
[02:10] <Bridge|> i still get the cant find device: <name> // cannot find partition
[02:10] <lee_> ive used it to re-install grub
[02:10] <niteshade> well, as much as i enjoy chatting, i'd like to go tagging.  [Look for NITE, louisvillians!]
[02:10] <vbabiy> how can you find out how any file descriptors are being used?
[02:10] <Trian3> IdleOne:  It brought up a window, Configuring grub-pc, asking for some kind of input.  There's a line which reads "Linux command line:"
[02:11] <IdleOne> asking for what Trian3 ?
[02:11] <younder> why can't I enter dirsectory 'drwxrwSr-x  2 root programmer  4096 2008-05-28 17:10 lib' ?
[02:11] <dot> Is there a way to manage applications that are open and be able to force close them?
[02:11] <lee_> dont input Trian3 ,, it will do it ok <<
[02:11] <jk_> I'm exporting the entire directory tree of one machine specifically to another, but on the receiving machine the exported /home directory (/net/xubuntu/home) shows up as empty. All other directories show their full content; only /home seems to be blocked. It actually contains two user directories plus lost+found, and has r-x permissions for everyone. Anyone have any ideas what could be causing this?
[02:11] <younder> I am a member of programmer.
[02:12] <Trian3> IdleOne / lee:  It's not clear.  Above the input line, it simply says "Linux command line:"  The "Forward" button isn't greyed out, so i guess I can just push ahead without entering anything.
[02:12] <tensorpudding> younder: i think you need to have execute permissions on every directory along the path to that directory
[02:12] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> younder: the group doesn't have eXecute permission on that directory
[02:12] <IdleOne> Trian3: yeah go forward
[02:12] <lee_> Trian3, just TAB to ok
[02:12] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> vbabiy: lsof perhaps?
[02:12] <younder> I can enter 'drwxrwsr-x 13 root programmer  4096 2008-01-19 22:00 src'
[02:13] <IdleOne> Trian3: follow lee_ on this. he seems more confident then I do :)
[02:13] <younder> There is something about that capital S.
[02:13] <i_is_broke> ok now how do i get the x_and folder to the right side of the top taskbar?
[02:13] <Trian3> Ok, it's asking for the install devices.  I'm selecting /dev/sda (only drive connected) and clicking Forward.
[02:13] <Trian3> Ok, thanks IdleOne.
[02:13] <lee_> top one,, SDA?
[02:13] <Trian3> Lee:  Yes, /dev/sda.  Top and ONLY.
[02:14] <lee_> pick the sda one
[02:14] <etrnl> Anyone have experience with evdev drivers and/or calibrating touchscreens?
[02:14] <younder> tensorpudding, Thanks..
[02:14] <Trian3> Ok, did that.  Now there's a checkbox - "GRUB installation failed.  Continue?"
[02:14] <i_is_broke> got thanks anyways..:D
[02:14] <tensorpudding> younder: that S really is capitalized there?
[02:15] <bazhang> !controls | i_is_broke
[02:15] <lee_> any1 know how to get nautilus-scripts onto right click?
[02:15] <lee_> Trian3,  : sudo update-grub
[02:16] <younder> tensorpudding, It is capitalized if there is no x
[02:16] <tensorpudding> ah
[02:16] <tensorpudding> odd
[02:16] <tripelb> re dual boot: I have windows on a drive and I want to put Ubuntu on it-also. Right now Ubuntu wont boot. What could it be. The disk integrity is ok and it's new. I* began the life of the disk by partitioning and repartitioning it. Then gparted would unexpectedly quit. --- after being stuck, I installed WinXP on it. No problems. Cound I have something funny writen on the HD or in the boot secor. Please advise.
[02:16] <bazhang> lee_, there is a plugin for that iirc apt-cache search nautilus
[02:16] <enyone> hi
[02:16] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> vbabiy: when the suid bit is set (s), but the owner execute bit is off, ls will display a capital S in that case
[02:16] <enyone> hi
[02:16] <etherealite> etheretic testing notify
[02:16] <Trian3> Lee:  /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannto find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[02:16] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> vbabiy: so for that directory the group lacks execute persmission
[02:16] <etherealite> etherealitetesting notify
[02:16] <etherealite> etherealite testing notify
[02:17] <bazhang> etherealite, please dont
[02:17] <etherealite> haha
[02:17] <etherealite> it works
[02:17] <younder> tensorpudding, I Think it is to make it more obvious that it is missing. It is very difficult to see. Certainly chmod has no S option.
[02:18] <Trian3> Lee:  Any ideas?
[02:19] <Trian3> lee?
[02:20] <lee_> is file system mounted?
[02:20] <Trian3> Lee:  It appears to be...  That is, if I'm reading this correctly.
[02:21] <Trian3> I typed "mount" and it showed me all the mounted devices.
[02:21] <Trian3> Lee:  /dev/sda1 is among the mounted partitions.
[02:22] <veebull> anyone know where to find a description or explanation of the install options presented by the Server install CD?
[02:22] <veebull> They don't seem to be covered in the official docs, and the pages on boot options and boot parameters in the Community Docs are for the Desktop Live CD version... which doesn't appear to match.
[02:22] <veebull> Specifically I'm curious about the 'F4 Mode' options, which used to be graphic mode options but now are labeled 'Normal', 'OEM Install', 'Minimal Install', 'Install virtual machine'...
[02:22] <fedora_newb> can anyone tell me why when i minimize firefox it disappears off the screen...sometimes also when i open it, it doesn't appear eithe r:(
[02:23] <lee_> Trian3, have u tried before with the BIOS to default?
[02:23] <tensorpudding> fedora_newb: what do you mean by "disappears off the screen"?
[02:23] <tensorpudding> you mean there is no taskbar entry for it?
[02:23] <Trian3> lee:  I'll take a look in the BIOS now and see if there's any such option.
[02:23] <tensorpudding> fedora_newb: is it possible that it ended up in another workspace?
[02:24] <lee_> i think its f11 / f12
[02:24] <Trian3> lee:  Are we talking about 2 different things?  You mean to go into the PC BIOS, right?
[02:25] <lee_> yea,,
[02:25] <fedora_newb> right now, i have it opened, and there is like not title for it in the bottom panel...
[02:25] <fedora_newb> same with thunderbird as well :/
[02:25] <fedora_newb> tensorpudding, no where to be seen
[02:25] <fedora_newb> nope
[02:25] <fedora_newb> tensorpudding, nope
[02:25] <fedora_newb> looked
[02:25] <fedora_newb> but nothing
[02:25] <FloodBot1> fedora_newb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:25] <mrclean> Just installed apache2 and not sure about document root.  Not seeing the httpd.conf file.
[02:25] <mrclean> I see an empty httpd.conf in /etc/apache2 but....?
[02:26] <fedora_newb> tensorpudding, any idea whats going on?
[02:26] <tensorpudding> fedora_newb: maybe it has crashed, i don't know
[02:26] <fedora_newb> sigh...always something...
[02:26] <Trian3> lee:  I can change boot order, but that's about it.  Here's the current order:  1-removable, 2-CDROM, 3-Hard Disk
[02:26] <FloridaGuy> anyone have an idea... on why jockey-gtk..isent giving me my video card drivers
[02:27] <lee_> and still no grub boot.. this the 5th time youve installed? same prob?
[02:28] <fedora_newb> FloridaGuy, cause like everything else in ubuntu... its broken l:(
[02:28] <Trian3> Lee:  Well, I'm still in the BIOS.
[02:28] <Trian3> Lee:  Saving/exiting now.
[02:28] <lee_> are u on a virtual machine?
[02:28] <FloridaGuy> fedora_newb, could be
[02:28] <Trian3> Lee:  No.
[02:28] <whosjose> question, http://pastebin.com/gHirRFfg how can i fix that error?
[02:28] <lee_> then how can u see the bios?
[02:28] <Trian3> Same error:  Disk boot failure, insert system disk....
[02:29] <gwern> has anyone run into a situation where mplayer plays normally, but when a sound file is finished, mplayer seems to hang for 1-3 seconds and then exit normally?
[02:29] <Trian3> I'm on 2 different machines.
[02:29] <Trian3> I'm chatting w/ you on my laptop.
[02:29] <Trian3> Windows box.
[02:29] <gwern> my mplayer problem doesn't seem to have anything to do with my mplayer config or options - removing them entirely or running mplayer inside another app entirely (mnemosyne) doesn't change it
[02:29] <KDC1956> trian3 what are you trying to do
[02:30] <lee_> kk,, when u put the disk in,, do a check disk.. make sure its ok.. also u can down load an iso grub-loader disk.. or install lilo from package manager to try that..
[02:30] <Trian3> KDC:  Bootup.  :P
[02:30] <KDC1956> ubuntu or windows
[02:30] <Trian3> Lee:  Lilo, hmm?  I've used that in the past.
[02:31] <wizz> hi all. anyone know how to install wireless driver into system
[02:31] <Trian3> KDC:  Ubuntu...  on my other machine.
[02:31] <wizz> !install wireless
[02:31] <KDC1956> did you use a cd or a peddrive
[02:31] <Trian3> KDC:  Getting Disk Boot Failure.
[02:31] <Trian3> KDC:  CD
[02:31] <wizz> !wireless
[02:31] <Trian3> KDC:  Ubuntu 10.04
[02:31] <wizz> !driver
[02:31] <gwern> wizz: you use the hardware driver dialogue in the System toolbar?
[02:33] <KDC1956> I would do a reload make sure you boot with cd first after it is loaded take cd out befor you restart
[02:33] <Trian3> KDC:  On a previous install, it installed and booted successfully, but I decided I wanted to try to get RAID working and since then I've been unable to get it to install again even after I abandoned the RAID idea.
[02:33] <wizz> gwern, what is that? i just download wireless driver and got tar.gz package. how to install it.
[02:33] <Trian3> So, reinstall from scratch?
[02:33] <gwern> wizz: never mind then
[02:33] <KDC1956> Oh I see then you would be better or reloading it
[02:33] <KDC1956> yes reinstall
[02:33] <lee_> lol,, get news.. now u tell me raid
[02:33] <nanzalone> Hello all.  My touchpad dies whenever my laptop hibernates.  I found some doc on a similar problem fixed by upgrading grub, but it was for 9 and presumably grub is already updated w/ 10.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[02:33] <dot> Last question, Where can i find proper drivers so i can get my logitech webcam to work?
[02:34] <Trian3> Lee:  Sorry, didn't think it was part of the picture as everything is back to standard.
[02:34] <Trian3> Lee:  RAID is currently inactive.
[02:35] <lee_> is it onboard or PCI?
[02:35] <Trian3> Lee:  Onboard.  ie fake-RAID
[02:36] <skyl> I lost the sound control on my panel.  What was that program?
[02:36] <lee_> i wouldnt think onboard is fake.. i mean ur motherboard was build with the raid
[02:36] <gwern> gnome-volume-control?
[02:36] <skyl> default gnome 10.04
[02:36] <Trian3> Yes, but according to reviews it's still fake
[02:36] <skyl> gwern, tyvm
[02:37] <Kage> I hear that ubuntu 10.10 is switching to KDE
[02:37] <Trian3> I think I just fixed the problem.
[02:37] <nimbiotics> hello ya'll. How do i find out a device's name? TIA!
[02:37] <bazhang> Kage, no
[02:37] <Kage> nimbiotics: dmesg might help
[02:37] <FloridaGuy> guess fedora_newb was right..jockey was broken..i uninstalled it...reinstalled it and on reinstall it added the nvidia stuff and ati stuff...so it dident install all needed packages on install
[02:37] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: lspci / lsusb
[02:37] <lee_> strange.. well if its onboard ud know u have to set it up in the bios screen
[02:37] <Trian3> Although I didn't have RAID setup (no arrays established), it was still technically enabled in the BIOS.
[02:37] <Kage> bazhang: why not?
[02:37] <Trian3> After disabling that, it  now boots.
[02:37] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: if it is assigned a device name, it will appear in the /var/log/dmesg.log
[02:38] <bazhang> Kage, feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:38] <nimbiotics> tensorpudding: thanks a lot!
[02:38] <lee_> load 3rd party drivers probably
[02:38] <Tschacko> Here is: The King!
[02:38] <Tschacko> hello i am a profi
[02:39] <Tschacko> how are you?
[02:39] <bazhang> Tschacko, support question?
[02:39] <tensorpudding> !ot | Tschacko
[02:39] <Trian3> So I'm up and running!
[02:39] <elijah> I updated kubuntu last night and now my wifi will not list my ssid
[02:39] <yanick_> hi, I just bought a Lexmark S408 printer, and the manufacturer says that it supports Ubuntu 8.04, but I cannot seem to install it. Ubuntu sees that it's a S300-S400, but when it ask to select which printer it is, it's not in the list. Please help
[02:39] <Trian3> Damn, why is everything so difficult when you're a newb?!
[02:39] <Tschacko> yes, okay. why not? Tell me
[02:39] <FloridaGuy> I dont see a King
[02:39] <bazhang> Tschacko, this is not a chat channel
[02:39] <bazhang> Tschacko, #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[02:39] <Tschacko> :(
[02:40] <fedora_newb> Well, all my programs are disappearing when I minimize them...nothing showing in taskbar
[02:40] <fedora_newb> any fix for this?
[02:40] <whosjose> question, http://pastebin.com/gHirRFfg how can i fix that error?
[02:40] <tensorpudding> fedora_newb: are you sure you're minimizing them?
[02:40] <tensorpudding> fedora_newb: and not closing them?
[02:40] <tensorpudding> fedora_newb: can you reach them when you use alt+tab?
[02:40] <fedora_newb> not an idiot, so yes, i know i am minimizing them
[02:40] <Trian3> Lee, KDC, LiveOne -- Thank you all for your help.
[02:41] <FloridaGuy> fedora_newb, are they showing on taskbar while maximized
[02:41] <fedora_newb> yes, i can get to them by alt-tab, but why are they not showing in taskbar?? tensorpudding
[02:41] <TDNet> hello can i get help with bluray and what rpm package is availabe that conatins bluray playback software for ubuntu 10.10 beta?
[02:41] <fedora_newb> FloridaGuy, nope
[02:41] <ThisGuy> New to Ubuntu - does anyone want to help me get setup? Send me a PM :] <-- Please? Hardy har har.
[02:41] <Trian3> Bye all...  <waves>
[02:41] <nogo> not me
[02:41] <bazhang> ThisGuy, ask here
[02:41]  * nogo runs away
[02:42] <xangua> whosjose: right clic>properties>give it permissions
[02:42] <yanick_> Hi, can someone help me install a printer that suppose to support Linux, but Ubuntu does not have a driver for?
[02:42] <lee_> bye
[02:42] <ThisGuy> How do I get an IRC setup on the laptop with Ubuntu?
[02:42] <tensorpudding> fedora_newb: maybe try removing the taskbar widget and then putting it back
[02:42] <fedora_newb> tensorpudding, ill give it a try...
[02:43] <will_> Hi. Installed 10.04 with an nvidia card along with the restricted drivers. But the resolutions provided isnt the native resolution of the monitor. How can I add it?
[02:43] <FloridaGuy> fedora_newb, right click on taskbar...click add to panel...select windows list...then hit add
[02:43] <tensorpudding> ThisGuy: Install xchat from the software center, then read http://xchat.org/docs/start/
[02:43] <Niwatori> Can i install ubuntu onto a usb hdd without deleting my documents?
[02:43] <ThisGuy> tensorpudding: You're a doll.
[02:44] <whosjose> xangua: You are the best! Thanks:)
[02:44] <fedora_newb> FloridaGuy, thanks, that did the trick :P
[02:44] <tensorpudding> Niwatori: Are your documents on the USB hard drive?
[02:44] <fedora_newb> FloridaGuy, any idea how that feature disappeared from me?
[02:44] <shadyabhi> Niwatori: Which documents? Be clear
[02:44] <xangua> !usb | Niwatori
[02:44] <tensorpudding> Niwatori: If so, you'll need to repartition, or move the documents off of it
[02:45] <FloridaGuy> fedora_newb, welcome...i fixed my problem to...i uninstalled jokey reinstalled it and it added everything that it needed
[02:45] <mrclean> Anyone have any luck getting The Powered Access Bible to come up and run on Ubuntu's apache2?
[02:45] <etheretic> Niwatori: wubi may work. dunno.
[02:45] <Tschacko> i am the gnome of linux.
[02:45] <fedora_newb> FloridaGuy, so kinda the same fix to a diff problem ;) gj
[02:45] <Niwatori> tensorpudding: so i have to reformat, install ubuntu, then put them back on there?
[02:45] <FloridaGuy> fedora_newb, have no idea...unless you removed something from the taskbar and remove it
[02:45] <bazhang> Tschacko, stop that
[02:45] <PuffTheMagic> how do i get java working in chrome for firefox
[02:45] <PuffTheMagic> i have java installed
[02:45] <Tschacko> ok
[02:45] <tensorpudding> Niwatori: That is one way, and the easiest way if you don't mind backing up your documents to another drive
[02:45] <PuffTheMagic> but both browsers say i dont have a plugin
[02:46] <AreioWolf> I'm having a major issue:  I just upgraded a partition on my computer from Ubuntu 9.10 to Ubuntu 10.04... and accidently replaced the "menu.lst" file that allows me to-- by default-- boot into Windows.  There also seems to be an issue booting into Ubuntu... I'm getting all sorts of errors while trying to boot into ubuntu, and my main concern is needing to get quick access to my Windows partition again for the less
[02:46] <AreioWolf> linux-savvy in my family.  Can anyone help?
[02:46] <FloridaGuy> now reboot so my nvidia driver works
[02:46] <Tschacko> in offtopic nobody answeres, thats boring and disapointing. I was looking for flirting and chatting. :(
[02:46] <tensorpudding> AreioWolf: 10.04 uses GRUB 2, which doesn't use menu.lst
[02:46] <Niwatori> tensorpudding: how much is the installation going to occupy?
[02:46] <tensorpudding> Niwatori: Do you have Windows installed on this drive?
[02:46] <AreioWolf> tensorpudding - Ah... okay  How would I go about getting to Windows then?
[02:46] <bazhang> Tschacko, again, this is not the right channel for that. please stop
[02:47] <fedora_newb> Does anyone know if ubuntu has a feature to have like all the same apps into 1 like windows 7 has, like 3 firefox windows into one taskbar?
[02:47] <tensorpudding> AreioWolf: If there is a Windows install on the disk, it should have been detected
[02:47] <Niwatori> tensorpudding:yes
[02:47] <Tschacko> :( okay.. Where can i go?
[02:47] <tensorpudding> !grub2 | AreioWolf
[02:47] <lee_> AreioWolf, are u in windows or ubuntu now?
[02:47] <nimbiotics> tensorpudding: I found the device using lsusb (Bus 001 Device 005: ID 13fe:3100 Kingston Technology Company Inc.), but i still cant determine the device name ... can you help me? TIA!
[02:48] <tensorpudding> AreioWolf: There is a configuration file in /etc/grub.d for windows i believe, the format is somewhat similar to the old grub
[02:48] <fedora_newb> Ah nm, i got it :D
[02:48] <tensorpudding> Niwatori: Do you want to keep Windows on the drive?
[02:48] <AreioWolf> tensorpudding - I'm typing here from my laptop.  I can't get into anything that's not a terminal screen.
[02:48] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: It looks like a USB flash drive
[02:48] <ThisGuy> Is there anything on Ubuntu that I can use that works with an ipod touch/itunes type thing? :]
[02:48] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: Look in the dmesg log to see if it is assigned an sdX device
[02:49] <tensorpudding> AreioWolf: So it doesn't boot into Ubuntu?
[02:49] <Niwatori> tensorpudding: sorry, i meant i have windows on my internal drive, my external is just storing documents, no OS
[02:49] <AreioWolf> tensorpudding - I'm getting a "Undefined video mode number:  2f6" error of some sort... and when it boots into the graphical login screen, it doesn't seem to recognize either my mouse or keyboard.
[02:49] <tensorpudding> Niwatori: Ah. Well if you back those files up elsewhere, you can reformat, and then use as much space as you want for Ubuntu when you install Ubuntu
[02:50] <Niwatori> tensorpudding:ok thank you
[02:50] <ultratek> I upgraded to maverick beta this evening and it says there is no fglrx driver and cannot detect my displays..so X will not load. anyone with similar problem?
[02:50] <tensorpudding> Niwatori: There is a lower limit on how much space you can set aside for Ubuntu...I'd recommend at least 10 GB, generally more
[02:50] <AreioWolf> tensorpudding - Wait... I rebooted and it magically booted normally into Ubuntu.  I still can't see Windows, though.
[02:50] <xangua> !maverick | ultratek
[02:51] <ultratek> an so.. anyone?
[02:51] <tensorpudding> AreioWolf: Okay, well once you log in you can fix your GRUB 2 configuration, the config files are in /etc/grub.d now
[02:51] <Tschacko> yes
[02:51] <bazhang> ultratek, #ubuntu+1 for maverick
[02:51] <FloridaGuy> anyone have any idea when ubuntu will get the nvidia 256.53
[02:51] <AreioWolf> tensorpudding - Hold on, let me open that up.
[02:51] <tensorpudding> AreioWolf: under 30_os-prober I believe
[02:52] <tensorpudding> AreioWolf: or maybe the custom entry
[02:53] <AreioWolf> tensorpudding - Okay... I see both files.  What do you recommend I do to allow the computer to boot into Windows from GRUB?
[02:53] <lee_> AreioWolf, just check that ur windows filesyetem shows in your 'places'.
[02:53] <nimbiotics> how do i look in the dmesg log??
[02:53] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: run 'dmesg | less' in the terminal
[02:53] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: you can scroll using the arrow keys
[02:53] <AreioWolf> lee_ - Yep, it does.
[02:53] <lee_> k,, jus thought u might have deleted it..
[02:54] <ThisGuy> Is there anything on Ubuntu that I can use that works with an ipod touch/itunes type thing? :]
[02:54] <bazhang> ThisGuy, rhythmbox and others
[02:54] <ThisGuy> bahang - Thanks
[02:54] <Tschacko> ok
[02:54] <ThisGuy> bazhang* Sorry.
[02:55] <lee_> ThisGuy, > get itunes through 'playonlinx'.
[02:56] <Tschacko> install moorhuhn
[02:56] <martian> Is there a way to steal a process which is running via a remote terminal on a different system?.. attach it to my terminal
[02:56] <Tschacko> yes
[02:56] <Tschacko> xkill
[02:56] <tensorpudding> martian: what do you mean by steal?
[02:56] <Tschacko> then it stops
[02:56] <tensorpudding> martian: you just want the output to be piped to your terminal?
[02:57] <barry> Hello, everybody
[02:57] <martian> tensorpudding: yeah, that's all I really want. Basically I forgot to run it via screen.
[02:57] <tensorpudding> i think there is a way to do that, but i'm afraid i don't know it
[02:58] <nimbiotics> tensorpudding: i cant find it ... could it be cause i inserted the usb device after booting?
[02:58] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: the dmesg log will include messages from after the boot
[02:58] <martian> Tschacko: unfortunately, this is something running through a Putty window on a server with no X server.
[02:58] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: try removing it, then reinserting it, and check 'dmesg | tail'
[03:00] <mrclean> I'm having a hard time with apache2.  Can not get The Powered Access Bible to run on it.
[03:00] <mrclean> Anyone know what could be the problem?
[03:00] <tensorpudding> mrclean: there is an #apache channel i think
[03:01] <bastidrazor> tensorpudding: #httpd
[03:01] <martian> mrclean: You should be more specific with your questions
[03:01] <tensorpudding> ah, but still, apache's config isn't really an ubuntu question
[03:02] <whosjose> what's a good IM client?
[03:02] <tensorpudding> empathy comes with ubuntu
[03:03] <whosjose> uh its annoying tho
[03:03] <whosjose> anyhting else?
[03:03] <tensorpudding> there is pidgin
[03:03] <mrclean> I see:  "script not found or unable to stat: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/powerbible
[03:03] <mrclean> in error.log
[03:03] <AreioWolf> Does anyone have any advice on how to restore a Windows XP entry into GRUB after having accidently overwritten it?
[03:04] <longcat> test
[03:04] <vasy> Hi
[03:04] <vasy> Was there any open source virtualization servers for hosting websites? Just like xen servers / vmware
[03:04] <lee_> AreioWolf, over written the MBR or the grub entry?
[03:05] <nogo> you are going to wrong direction
[03:05] <u|core> AreioWolf: what disk/partition is your win install on?
[03:05] <nogo> try chroot/bsd jails/vserver and open vz
[03:05] <tensorpudding> vasy: xen is open source?
[03:05] <longcat> im trying to install unbuntu 10.04 on an old pc...  installing i386...  when i select 'install to hard disk' grub/bootloader says 'live-install' and never attempts to boot linux
[03:05] <longcat> this happened with multiple versions
[03:05] <longcat> what's going on here
[03:05] <longcat> it has 384mb of ram
[03:05] <nogo> nothing
[03:05] <AreioWolf> u|core - It's on a seperate partition, on the same disk.
[03:05] <vasy> tensorpudding: thanks for the reply
[03:06] <longcat> how do i make it install instead of doign nothing?
[03:06] <elijah> I am running Kubuntu 10.10 beta, everything has been working pretty well, last night I downloaded the system updates and installed then went to bed, I just rebooted for first time and now my SSID is not being identified via wireless. Any ideas on how I can get it back? I just wired to my router and downloaded latest updates for tonight but no cigar, last nights updates put a new kernel line in me GRUB too.
[03:06] <xangua> !lubuntu
[03:06] <xangua> longcat: better try lubuntu
[03:06] <u|core> AreioWolf: well i cant give you any info unless i know "witch" it is
[03:06] <AreioWolf> lee_ - I'm not entirely sure.  I'm assuming it's just GRUB, because this happened after upgrading to Ubuntu 10.0.
[03:06] <psycho789> where is the trash folder located
[03:06] <nogo> ha, lxde
[03:06] <longcat> xangua: it's not even booting the kernel
[03:06] <AreioWolf> u|core - what do you mean by which disk?
[03:06] <xangua> !maverick | elijah
[03:06] <longcat> it's not even attempting to boot the kernel
[03:06] <u|core> AreioWolf: you mean you lost the entry in your grub menu when you boot your system right
[03:06] <elijah> Btw, my Andorid identifies and connects to my SSID just fine, just me Kubuntu that won't see it nor connect.
[03:06] <psycho789> !trash
[03:06] <tensorpudding> longcat: what is it doing instead?
[03:06] <Adzy> hello all!
[03:07] <longcat> tensorpudding: a popup says, with a title, 'Boot loader' then 'live-install' for the content
[03:07] <AreioWolf> u|core - Yes.  The list that GRUB uses got overwritten while upgrading.
[03:07] <Bridge|> ok so i redid grub and when i type update-grub now i get this:
[03:07] <elijah> xangua: Thanks for the pointer!
[03:07] <Bridge|> ls: cannot access /media/WiNDoWs/boot
[03:07] <ken> root
[03:07] <Bridge|> Boot: No such file or directory
[03:07] <Adzy> just wondering does ubuntu 10.04 come standard with b43-fwcutter?
[03:07] <nimbiotics> tensorpudding: i found this line:([124818.323892]  sdb: sdb1) but when i try fdisk -l /dev/DEVICE, OS cannot open device
[03:07] <tensorpudding> longcat: and then what happens?
[03:07] <longcat> when i select 'Test memory' a popup says 'memtest'...  it doesnt seem to actually be executing anything
[03:07] <Bridge|> where before it would find windows but still give me no should partition when i selected it from boot menu
[03:07] <longcat> tensorpudding: it says a [  ok   ] and...  i pres it, and i go back to the menu i started from... try/install/check/test/boot
[03:08] <Bridge|> /media/WiNDoWs is my mounted windows fs
[03:08] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: are you using this command as root?
[03:08] <rahduke> please someone help me out, was trying to change my DNS Server as per these instructions... http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/how-to-switch-to-opendns-in-ubuntu-for-faster-browsing/
[03:09] <Bridge|> anyone any ideas? p.s. this all stems from running backtrack live cd
[03:09] <tensorpudding> longcat: that's odd. what install media is it? the basic install cd?
[03:09] <rahduke> once i set the DNS and clikced apply, and apply to all users my eth0 dissapeared from network connection manager, after reset I'm on the same DNS server as before and now for some weird reason no other computers on my network can see my NFS shares
[03:09] <elijah> Is upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10 easy when it comes out?
[03:09] <rahduke> pleas help im bugging out
[03:10] <longcat> it's a cdrw...  the file i burnd was ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso...  but this happened with ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso too
[03:10] <u|core> AreioWolf: you know how to manualy edit your grub config?
[03:10] <edbian> rahduke, I'm here man.  Reading your link
[03:10] <rahduke> also for some weird reason I cant get into IRC using Pidgin, I'm on empathy
[03:10] <rahduke> edbian: thank u so much man
[03:10] <tensorpudding> rahduke: if you set your DNS server to something outside of your LAN, it can't resolve host names on your LAN
[03:10] <tensorpudding> rahduke: which would explain why your NFS isn't working
[03:10] <elijah> If I do apt-get clean that is safe to get rid of files I am not immediately needing to free up disk space right?
[03:10] <edbian> rahduke, What is the problem you're experiencing?  I have the guide open.  What are you trying to accomplish?
[03:10] <rahduke> tensorpudding: well the problem is eth0 no longer shows up in network manager so i cant change back the settings
[03:11] <AreioWolf> u|core - Not really, no.
[03:11] <rahduke> edbian: i just wanna go back to how it was, it was working perfectly I just hate my ISP's DNS nonsense
[03:11] <tensorpudding> rahduke: what do you mean?
[03:11] <tensorpudding> rahduke: you can't change your connection?
[03:11] <rahduke> tensorpudding: in network connections, the little box is now empty....no eth1 no eth0 no nothing
[03:11] <longcat> i even tried hitting ^M instead of enter
[03:12] <rahduke> so i cant get into the settings for eth0 and change em back
[03:12] <tucemiux> anyone knows how to configure cups so that the share can work for any user on any machine connected to your network?
[03:12] <tensorpudding> rahduke: that's pretty weird
[03:12] <nimbiotics> tensorpudding: nope ...got it working now ... Thanka again!
[03:12] <u|core> AreioWolf: im not on ubuntu atm so have no clue to how its defaults are, but generaly its /boot/grub/menu.lst (it may be grub.conf) and you should only need to add a few lines to it for the windows boot part.
[03:12] <edbian> rahduke, You're going to be have to be more specific.  What is wrong with Ubuntu for you right now?
[03:13] <rahduke> edbian: my NFS is shot
[03:13] <bazhang> !grub2 | AreioWolf u|core
[03:13] <edbian> rahduke, Your network file system is shot?
[03:13] <rahduke> noo computers on my network can see my NFS shares anymore
[03:13] <elijah> Could I install Ubuntu 10.4 stable over Kubuntu 10.10 beta?
[03:13] <tensorpudding> rahduke: how did you configure your NFS exports?
[03:13] <edbian> rahduke, Messing with DNS should not have messed that up.
[03:13] <rahduke> edbian: it wasn't right before I tried changing my DNS server via that guide
[03:13] <u|core> i see, well then im not helping realy
[03:13] <bazhang> elijah, yes
[03:13] <edbian> rahduke, Can you ping the other computers from the serveR?
[03:13] <edbian> rahduke, Can the other computers ping your server?
[03:14] <rahduke> tensorpudding: i configured it like a year ago, it was working fine for over 9 months
[03:14] <rahduke> edbian: yes
[03:14] <tucemiux> elijah, you mean you want to dual boot 10.4 and lucid beta?
[03:14] <edbian> rahduke, Yes to both?  What errors do you get when you try to mount the nfs shares from a client?
[03:14] <bazhang> tucemiux, lucid is 10.04
[03:14] <tensorpudding> rahduke: you can hand-edit /etc/resolv.conf to point to your ISP's DNS server
[03:14] <wizz> i install lucid in my laptop. installation is worked fine, but my wireless device wont active. can someone help me?
[03:14] <rahduke> edbian: errors say can't find share
[03:14] <tensorpudding> rahduke: it will get reset when you renegotiate DHCP though
[03:14] <edbian> rahduke, Is nfs running on the server?
[03:15] <rahduke> yes
[03:15] <tucemiux> bazhang,  semantics!  what is the lucid +1 called?
[03:15] <elijah> tucemiux: No, I don't have enough disk space for that at the moment, I just want to install Ubuntu stable right over my Kubuntu 10.10, because I need wifi right now
[03:15] <rahduke> and i can ping from and too
[03:15] <tensorpudding> rahduke: though more likely if you're on a LAN you were using a DNS server on your LAN
[03:15] <edbian> tensorpudding, Why would changing DNS mess with his nfs?
[03:15] <AreioWolf> u|core - I'm not sure how to do this either... the documentation that ubottu linked to mentions that the grub.cfg file shouldn't be edited.  I think I found the files... 30_os-proper and 40_custom... but I'm not sure what to add to either of them.
[03:15] <bazhang> !wifi | wizz please read this
[03:15] <elijah> bazhang: Thanks, I will do that
[03:15] <tensorpudding> edbian: because if he configured his NFS exports to use hostname-based authentication, it won't work if it won't resolve the local IP's to hostnames
[03:15] <neoalex> hi guys, I'm having some trouble with rsyslog template
[03:16] <edbian> tensorpudding, gotcha
[03:16] <tucemiux> elijah, so youre going to get rid of kubuntu and install ubuntu stable???
[03:16] <neoalex> do you see anything wrong with it:
[03:16] <bazhang> !meerkat > tucemiux
[03:16] <neoalex> $template DynaFile,"/var/log/%HOSTNAME%/%syslogfacility-text%.log"
[03:16] <rahduke> tensorpudding: how do u explain the fact that im not on a new DNS server, for somereason that guide didnt work for me
[03:16] <elijah> tucemiux: Yes
[03:16] <tensorpudding> rahduke: which guide is this?
[03:16] <rahduke> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/how-to-switch-to-opendns-in-ubuntu-for-faster-browsing/
[03:17] <tensorpudding> rahduke: you're not on a new DNS server?
[03:17] <rahduke> omgubuntu's guides almost always eff something up on my setup
[03:17] <edbian> tensorpudding, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/how-to-switch-to-opendns-in-ubuntu-for-faster-browsing/   his guide
[03:17] <tensorpudding> rahduke: what does your /etc/resolv.conf say?
[03:17] <rahduke> tensorpudding: no the settings didnt take, i dunno what happen but when i goto opendns to check it says im not on their server
[03:17] <tucemiux> elijah, you can do that safely, first make sure you back up all your data somewhere, make note of what partitions kubuntu is using right now and make ubuntu use those partitions, ubuntu will install itself without a hiccup get rid of kubuntu and leave your Mac OX/Windows 98 installation intact!
[03:18] <rahduke> tensorpudding: edbian: when i try to restart NFS it says command not found now
[03:18] <rahduke> weird
[03:18] <edbian> rahduke, sudo aptitude install nfs-kernel
[03:18] <edbian> rahduke, although it's probably because it's not NFS it's nfs
[03:18] <rahduke> resolv.conf "# Generated by NetworkManager
[03:18] <rahduke> nameserver 167.206.254.2
[03:18] <rahduke> nameserver 167.206.254.1"
[03:18] <edbian> rahduke, Use tab completion.  It's probably nfs-kernel or something.
[03:19] <tensorpudding> rahduke: does your LAN have NAT?
[03:19] <elijah> tucemiux: Good to know! I don't really have any real data on that partition yet, it has all been a playground for me so far. But it will be nice to just install and let it wipe everything behind.
[03:19] <rahduke> edbian: i have NFS installed
[03:19] <rahduke> tensorpudding: no NAT to my knowledge at least
[03:19] <edbian> rahduke, Well then you should be able to start it :)
[03:19] <rahduke> edbian: "sudo: /etc/init.d/nfs: command not found"
[03:20] <edbian> rahduke, I'm gonna let tensorpudding help you.  I don't wanna get in the way.  Doing 2 things at once is annoying.
[03:20] <rahduke> lol i realize that, thats why im bugging
[03:20] <tensorpudding> rahduke: okay, so are 167.206.254.2 etc. the OpenDNS nameservers, or your ISP nameservers?
[03:20] <tucemiux> elijah, again -- the trick is knowing what partitions kubuntu is using, if you use the wrong partition then you could potentially wipe something you dont want, that is the only thing you have to worry about
[03:20] <rahduke> tensorpudding: according to the guide i was using the openDNS server is at "208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220"
[03:20] <rahduke> tensorpudding: so that must be my ISP
[03:21] <edbian> tensorpudding, rahduke is correct about the openDNS servers
[03:21] <tensorpudding> rahduke: okay
[03:21] <tensorpudding> rahduke: can you ping other computers on your LAN by hostname?
[03:22] <rahduke> how can it not let me start nfs, and at the same time say that its installed
[03:22] <rahduke> yes i can ping all computers on my home network
[03:22] <rahduke> and vice versa
[03:22] <edbian> elijah, All you have to worry about is accidentally deleting all of your data...
[03:22] <elijah> tucemiux: I know exactly what partition I am using, I am safe there.
[03:22] <edbian> rahduke, Can you ping them by HOSTNAME?
[03:23] <rahduke> interesting question
[03:23] <longcat>  /!\ ATTN /!\  Ubuntu hates me.  I boot ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso and whn the cd boot it pops up a windows-esque dialog box with a title of 'Boot loader' that has a content of 'live' with an [ ok ] box, but when i press enter, it doesnt boot, just goes back to the menu.  i cant boot ubuntu.
[03:23] <rahduke> how can i quickly pull up my host name?
[03:23] <tensorpudding> rahduke: i think it might be /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server
[03:23] <tensorpudding> rahduke: hostname
[03:23] <elijah> except it seems I am out of cds to burn
[03:24] <elijah> I have Linux Mint 9, Ubuntu 8.04 and Kubuntu 10.10 beta,, hmmm
[03:24] <ZekeS> Do wireles cards actually work properly in mint?
[03:24] <rahduke> tensorpudding: pinging my host name works but the response time is a joke over 16ms
[03:24] <tensorpudding> a computer's hostname can be set by DHCP, or it can be set locally, usually there is an /etc/hosts entry for it
[03:25] <Flannel> longcat: Are you looking to install Ubuntu?
[03:25] <tensorpudding> rahduke: what about other hosts on the network?
[03:25] <rahduke> and i have the nfs-kernel-server running, so thats installed
[03:25] <elijah> Can I burn a Ubuntu iso to a DVD?
[03:25] <longcat> Flannel: yeah
[03:25] <bazhang> ZekeS, check mintsupport for that
[03:25] <rahduke> tensorpudding: pinging from other "nodes" to my host works as well
[03:25] <longcat> nothing happens, it's like the grub/bootloader/whatever it's called is just tellng me what im telling it to do instead of doing it
[03:25] <Flannel> longcat: Grab the alternate CD instead if you can.  It'll install without having to go through the live environment
[03:25] <bazhang> elijah, sure or to usb stick if computer can boot from that
[03:25] <longcat> alright then ill try that
[03:26] <rahduke> tensorpudding: just really slow response times
[03:26] <foul_owl> how do i modify iso contents with ubuntu?
[03:26] <tensorpudding> rahduke: but what about the other way?
[03:26] <rahduke> both ways
[03:26] <bazhang> !remaster | foul_owl
[03:26] <s_ongs> i'm in trouble : there's nothing wrong with xubuntu lucid.. it's kind of disturbing, anyone could help me create an issue?
[03:26] <rahduke> tensorpudding: they work both ways just really slow
[03:26] <bazhang> s_ongs, no
[03:26] <s_ongs> sigh ok ty :]
[03:26] <tensorpudding> rahduke: okay, then i'm not sure
[03:27] <elijah> bazhang: Wow, it's working, on a 5 year old (at least) DVD-R I found!
[03:27] <tensorpudding> rahduke: did you use hostnames or ip's when you were configuring NFS?
[03:27] <rahduke> tensorpudding: its so weird, i've been cut off at the knees without my NFS shares my network is useless
[03:27] <seamt> hello
[03:27] <elijah> bazhang: Not sure if I have a 1GB drive anywhere.
[03:28] <foul_owl> i mean i have an iso, but i need to add some files to it
[03:28] <Bridge|> ok grub2 os probe is finding win7 then appending a windows 7 entry to grub.cfg, but when i restart and select this entry grub is saying no such devie: uuid and no such partition, but the uuid and entry in grub point to the correct places (uuid is correct and hd(1,0) is correct for wind7, anyone can please help me??
[03:28] <rahduke> tensorpudding: its been so long i forgot what the NFS file is called, i think its exports but i forgot where its located
[03:28] <ThisGuy_> Anyone familiar with setting up a ventirlo server with ubuntu? :]
[03:29] <foul_owl> permissions are set to read write, but it still says readonly when i open with the archive manager
[03:29] <tensorpudding> rahduke: /etc/exports
[03:29] <bazhang> foul_owl, yes, please check the link I sent you
[03:29] <rahduke> tensorpudding: thanks, "/home 192.168.1.100/255.255.255.0 (rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)"
[03:29] <foul_owl> awesome, thanks!
[03:29] <mrclean> exit
[03:29] <rahduke> thats an example of what the lines look like
[03:29] <tensorpudding> rahduke: huh
[03:29] <st> Bridge|, I doubt Grub2 supports several HDs
[03:29] <Bridge|> it does
[03:29] <tensorpudding> rahduke: and nfs-kernel-server is running?
[03:30] <rahduke> tensorpudding: thats one of the lines from my exports, and yes nfs-kernel-server is running
[03:30] <Bridge|> this was working perfect for months and multi reinstalls untill backtrack4 fubar'd my grub2
[03:31] <tensorpudding> rahduke: those exports are to local ip's, can you reach those machines using local ip's?
[03:31] <tensorpudding> rahduke: more specifically, that export line suggests you are behind NAT
[03:31] <tensorpudding> rahduke: since those IP's aren't publically-routable
[03:32] <rahduke> tensorpudding: the IP listed "192.168.1.100" is my IP running the NFS server, and its set in a range from 192.168.1.100 to 255.255.255.0 this way I cover any IP that hops on my network
[03:32] <tensorpudding> rahduke: that netmask should allow anything on 192.168.1.xxx right?
[03:33] <rahduke> tensorpudding: i really dont think im on NAT man, its a junky lil linksys router and ive never setup any NAT anything
[03:33] <rahduke> tensorpudding: yes thats the idea, and its always worked int he past
[03:33] <tensorpudding> rahduke: NAT is setup on routers by default, generally
[03:33] <rahduke> tensorpudding: then maybe I am, I'm really not familiar with NAT, i've never looked into it
[03:33] <tensorpudding> rahduke: it allows you to have as many machines as you want on your local network without having to buy as many ip's from your isp
[03:34] <tensorpudding> rahduke: but anyway
[03:34] <rahduke> tensorpudding: well that would make sense, I mean I have a network setup on the 19.21.68.1.*** range
[03:34] <st> does anyone here use gedit in maverick? can it hide tabs in recent version?
[03:34] <rahduke> tensorpudding: i have 3 pcs and 4 HTPC's on the network all running Ubuntu
[03:34] <nogo> lol
[03:34] <tensorpudding> rahduke: this doesn't explain why NFS isn't working, which is odd
[03:35] <nogo> rahduke: ubuntu owns you
[03:35] <rahduke> tensorpudding: i know thats why im freaking out....lol
[03:35] <tensorpudding> rahduke: since they all have local ip's
[03:35] <tensorpudding> rahduke: and you configured the exports to work with the whole local range
[03:35] <bazhang> nogo thats not helpful
[03:36] <rahduke> tensorpudding: i know this sounds n00bish but in network connections my option for eth0 has always been there, the minute i changed the DNS settings and checked "make available to all users" it dissapeared
[03:36] <tensorpudding> rahduke: i don't actually know what the "make available to all users" option does
[03:36] <rahduke> tensorpudding: yea everything worked perfect for over a year, thru upgrades on all machines from 9.11 - 10.04
[03:37] <ThisGuy_> Anyone know how to setup a ventrilo server on ubuntu? If so please send me a message... lol
[03:38] <LinuxFetus> Hey.  I was ILessThan3Linux earlier today.  I am running a 64 bit Ubuntu 10.04, but free is not showing it.  All 4096 MB show up in my BIOS, and they have passed a RAM test. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/M6zf0GiM
[03:38] <LinuxFetus> Err sorry that wasn't clear haha.
[03:38] <tensorpudding> rahduke: hmm, but generally there is a DNS server running on the router
[03:38] <JoeMaverickSett> ThisGuy_: take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-559894.html
[03:39] <rahduke> tensorpudding: all this DNS stuff is over my head, i really hate networking....
[03:39] <hobble> Hello. How to start iBus Preferences in startup?
[03:39] <rahduke> tensorpudding: all i was trying to do is get off optiumonlines crappy horrible ad based DNS
[03:40] <u|core> anyone got a nice guide to make a bootlable usb memmstick with maverick without having ubuntu installed? (im on archlinux)
[03:40] <LinuxFetus> As of yesterday, I had a 2 GB stick of RAM in my computer.  Today, I put in a second.  The Ubuntu 10.04 64 Bit that I have wasn't showing all of it (it was acting like a 32 bit OS in regards to RAM, but uname -a was saying x86_64).  Someone suggested that I run a live copy of 10.04 64-bit to see what happens, and I have done so.
[03:40] <ldiamond> How do I make grub load Windows by default? (other than changing the DEFAULT value to 4...
[03:40] <ThisGuy_> JoeMaversickSett - thanks i tried this and step 9 wouldn't work.
[03:40] <ldiamond> )
[03:40] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, Are you using Grub?
[03:40] <tensorpudding> rahduke: i have bad residential DNS too, so i am running a caching DNS server on a machine on my LAN
[03:40] <ldiamond> yes, new install of 10.04, grub2
[03:41] <ldiamond> LinuxFetus: see above
[03:41] <LinuxFetus> Alright, I'll tell you what I do, but I'm not sure if it's the "best".
[03:41] <rahduke> tensorpudding: is there a way to completely remove nfs all the settings and everything and start over? and do u think that will help?
[03:41] <ldiamond> The content of the menu seems to be dynamic with what's installed. but the default value is static :S...
[03:41] <hobble> Hello. How to start iBus Preferences in startup? Can anyone help?
[03:42] <rahduke> tensorpudding: even better is there a way to reset your DNS server from command line?
[03:42] <AreioWolf> Does anyone know how to manually add an entry to GRUB under Ubuntu 10.04?
[03:42] <yanick_> please help ; I have a printer connected to my Wifi (even if connected via USB is the same, btw) and I/Ubuntu cannot find the driver for it, even though the manufacturer says it's Ubuntu 8.04 approved. It's a Lexmark Interpret S408.
[03:42] <yanick_> how can I install it?
[03:43] <tensorpudding> rahduke: the first thing you need to do is figure out how to configure NetworkManager back to the way it was
[03:43] <rahduke> tensorpudding: exactly, thats what i want to do
[03:43] <tensorpudding> rahduke: you can try creating a new connection
[03:43] <rahduke> tensorpudding: but without seeing my netowrk card in there is like impossible, i tried making a new conne
[03:43] <rahduke> ction
[03:44] <longcat> LinuxFetus: check ur chipset.  some computers have a 32bit chipset and 64bit cpu.  that means you cant access more memory than 32 bit cpu
[03:44] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, use a text editor to view /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:44] <kisuke> anyone know how to get bundler work from bash without having to type the full path
[03:44] <tensorpudding> rahduke: it should be fine, I think
[03:44] <LinuxFetus> longcat, It says 4096 MB in my bios
[03:44] <rahduke> tensorpudding: how can i reset my connection from command line?
[03:44] <longcat> i didnt ask what your bios said
[03:44] <hobble> rahduke: Can you help me to start iBus Preferences in startup? I don't know.
[03:45] <ldiamond> LinuxFetus: but that file is overwritten whenever it's regenerated by update-grub
[03:45] <LinuxFetus> longcat, Okay, let's say what you're saying is true.  How would I verify it?
[03:45] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, I said view not edit.
[03:45] <rahduke> garr ill just reset, brb
[03:45] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, View it... and you'll see menuentry ... {}
[03:45] <longcat> LinuxFetus: look up the chipset/mem controller of your motherboard.  look at the specs for it and it should be apparent.
[03:45] <tensorpudding> rahduke: you can disconnect and reconnect
[03:46] <longcat> lets see... i think i945 is a chipset
[03:46] <longcat> as an example of whaT To look for
[03:46] <ozzloy> i just installed kubuntu-desktop to try kde instead of gnome.  now i have no sound.  my internet searching hasn't helped so far.  how do i troubleshoot this sound issue?
[03:47] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, Each one of those corresponds to what grub displays... to change them you have to change this file... I'm trying to find it.  I hope it's not inside root.
[03:47] <longcat> for example, mine is 945GM chipset.  only supports 4GB ram, even though it has a 64bit cpu
[03:47] <rahduke> tensorpudding: well that didnt work
[03:47] <longcat> which means if i put 4gb ram, i can get about 3.2GB
[03:47] <ldiamond> you mean /etc/grub.d/... ? LinuxFetus
[03:48] <will_> longcat, Only in a 32-bit environment
[03:48] <rahduke> lol actually it did
[03:48] <longcat> will_: ok, you're right.  im wrong
[03:48] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, Well you need too go there, too.
[03:48] <rahduke> tensorpudding: i dunno what that was about or what happened but reseting both server and node worked!
[03:48] <p1und3r> is there any way to revert a package update in apt?
[03:48] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, Sorry my mind is scattered, yeah go there.
[03:49] <longcat> in a 32bit environment pae can be used to remap 4gb+.  but unless it's physicall wired, it cant be done.
[03:49] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, Open up 40_custom and put the menuentries where you want.
[03:49] <tensorpudding> rahduke: so NFS works now?
[03:49] <rahduke> tensorpudding: yup
[03:49] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, Like one after another, in whatever order.  You can also rename them.
[03:49] <longcat> 945GM doesnt physicall support more than 4gb physical address space.  which means 4gb of ram will give you about 3.2GB of accessible ram
[03:49] <tensorpudding> rahduke: heh
[03:49] <rahduke> tensorpudding: so weird
[03:49] <LinuxFetus> next back up your current boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:50] <tensorpudding> rahduke: but like i said, i get pretty good DNS performance running my own DNS server on my LAN
[03:50] <LinuxFetus> so like cp /boot/grub/grub.cfg /boot/grub/grub.cfg.bak
[03:50] <rahduke> tensorpudding: how'd ya set that up?
[03:50] <tensorpudding> rahduke: I used BIND 9
[03:50] <rahduke> tensorpudding: i tried opendns like a year ago but it was a nightmare
[03:51] <tensorpudding> rahduke: it just caches DNS requests locally
[03:51] <LinuxFetus> now, use chmod to remove executable permissions for everything for 10, 20, and 30.
[03:51] <rahduke> tensorpudding: u dont need a dedicated machine as a DNS server right?
[03:51] <test34> opendns redirects you to their server if the address doesnt exist... that is not good
[03:51] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, I'm not 100% sure you remove it for 10_... but I'm pretty sure.
[03:51] <Skandranon> Been years since I got on IRC.. I am having a problem installing Ubuntu 10.04. The pc I am trying to install on had the same version working a few days ago. I decided to reinstall. Was getting a error I dont remember now. Redownloaded 10.04 and burnt a new disk. Seemed to be having a partion problem. Ran gparted and deleted all the partions on the drive. Rebooted from the 10.04 cd. Loaded to
[03:51] <Skandranon> a blank (not quite blank maroonish weird design you see when you first load) with a working mouse and nothing else. No task bar or option to run from the cd or install. Before I deleted the partions I would get the option to install, after doing so, I ended up on this same screen. I can move the mouse around but do nothing else. Out of ideas. Any help would be great! :)
[03:51] <tensorpudding> rahduke: i use it on my server, which also hosts a zfs array and a webserver
[03:52] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, so like cd  etc/grub.d/ then chmod ugo-x 10* 20* 30*
[03:52] <rahduke> tensorpudding: oh thats wayyy beyond the setup that I have, just running my main comp as my network share server
[03:52] <tensorpudding> rahduke: bind9 isn't big on resources unless you use a lot of web traffic, or you're using it as an authoritative DNS server for a website
[03:52] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, And then run update-grub.  Then view grub.cfg again to see what the menu entries are ... to make sure I didn't give you a bad instruction and that you did everything right.
[03:53] <tensorpudding> and said website gets a ton of hits
[03:54] <rahduke> tensorpudding: lol well I have no webserver running, I think im just gunna deal with my ISP's DNS, every time i try to change things i run into lots of issues
[03:54] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, When you install a new OS or kernel and you need to get the menuentry for that, chmod ugo+x 10* 20* 30* and update-grub, view grub.cfg and modify 40_custom as neccesary... you can't just chmod ugo+x * because if you give the README executable permissions, it doesn't like that.
[03:54] <tank__> is there a channel for FOSS gaming? if so can someone point me in that direction? ty.
[03:55] <JoeMaverickSett> ThisGuy_: have you sorted it out yet?
[03:55] <bazhang> tank__, development or chat
[03:55] <Skandranon> I dont want to spam but is anyone here willing and able to help me with my problem? I dont mind waiting my turn but I just want to know someone can help sooner or later
[03:55] <ldiamond> LinuxFetus: I actually created a file 05_custom and put the menuentry for Windows there. It generated it in front of the rest. I suppose this is good. If you don't see me here again tonight it's cause it worked :p
[03:55] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, It does them in order.
[03:56] <rahduke> Skandranon: whats your issue?
[03:56] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, So things in 10_.. then 20_... then 30_ ... etc will be displayed.
[03:56] <test34> Skandranon, be patient.. ?
[03:56] <D-coy> o/
[03:56] <ozzloy> i just installed kubuntu-desktop from a regular ubuntu install.  now i have no sound.  how do i fix that?
[03:56] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, Windows will not be default.
[03:56] <Skandranon> rahduke... I am having a problem installing Ubuntu 10.04. The pc I am trying to install on had the same version working a few days ago. I decided to reinstall. Was getting a error I dont remember now. Redownloaded 10.04 and burnt a new disk. Seemed to be having a partion problem. Ran gparted and deleted all the partions on the drive. Rebooted from the 10.04 cd. Loaded to a blank (not quite
[03:56] <Skandranon> blank maroonish weird design you see when you first load) with a working mouse and nothing else. No task bar or option to run from the cd or install. Before I deleted the partions I would get the option to install, after doing so, I ended up on this same screen. I can move the mouse around but do nothing else. Out of ideas. Any help would be great! :)
[03:56] <D-coy> m4v, o/
[03:56] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, To see, view your grub.cfg file and see what the first menuentry is.
[03:57] <rahduke> Skandranon: my guess would be a bad burn, or the computer your trying to run your livecd on does not have enough ram
[03:57] <exsanet> facebook
[03:58] <Skandranon> I have tryed two burns.. the pc was running it fine till I reinstalled (4 gigs ram) .. I could try a third burn at a lower speed
[03:58] <test34> Skandranon, install the instant-answer app on facebook
[03:58] <tank__> bazhang: chat, unless they're looking for python proggers :P
[03:58] <Artemis3> Skandranon, did you try the test disc option? and memtest?
[03:58] <rahduke> Skandranon: maybe the drive on the install PC, try memtest or discoption
[03:58] <bazhang> tank__, /msg alis list *gameyouwant*
[03:58] <RealOpty> how can i clone a HDD?
[03:58] <rahduke> lol
[03:58] <Bithound> try clonezilla
[03:59] <Skandranon> no artemis3.. I know how to do memtest, how do I use the test disk?
[03:59] <ldiamond> LinuxFetus: yea it's in front, so that should work
[03:59] <Artemis3> Skandranon, its in the same menu where you pick memtest, when you boot cd and press a key at the purple screen
[03:59] <rahduke> its an option on the live cd, while its loading the disc hit the keyboard
[03:59] <Skandranon> oic
[04:00] <Skandranon> thank you both gonna give that a shot now
[04:00] <rahduke> gl
[04:00] <Skandranon> :)
[04:01] <Vast> hello!
[04:01] <kisuke> anyone know how to get bundler work from bash without having to type the full path?
[04:01] <JoeMaverickSett> !welcome | Vast
[04:01] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, Sweet.
[04:01] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, Oh sorry I thought you wrote 50_
[04:02] <LinuxFetus> ldiamond, That was actually very smart.
[04:03] <tensorpudding> kisuke: you need to add the path to the bundler executable to the PATH variable
[04:03] <kisuke> tensorpudding: um not sure how to do that one, the command is path right?
[04:03] <junior> alguem sabe o endereço do forum ubuntu no brasil?
[04:03] <tensorpudding> kisuke: or better, create an executable script that points to the bundler executable and put that script in the PATH
[04:04] <Adzy> can someone help me! im trying to install b43-fwcutter and keep getting this error message  "DEPEND   dep/md5.d
[04:04] <Adzy>      DEPEND   dep/fwcutter.d
[04:04] <Adzy>      CC       obj/fwcutter.o
[04:04] <Adzy> make: *** [obj/fwcutter.o] Error 127"
[04:04] <FloodBot1> Adzy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:04] <tensorpudding> kisuke: PATH is a variable, that contains a colon-separate list of paths to search for executable files in
[04:04] <Vast> i have a problem with booting into a new image of UNR.
[04:04] <Vast> my previous image got corrupted (due to a hard quit during a freeze) and when i boot into that image i get popped into the (initramfs) screen
[04:04] <Vast> so my thought was to boot into ubuntu from another live cd, but for some reason grub isnt recognising the second live cd
[04:04] <Vast> *live usb
[04:04] <Vast> any thoughts?
[04:04] <FloodBot1> Vast: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:04] <kisuke> tensorpudding: *shudder* it'd be easier to symlink bundler to /bin/ but that dont work to well
[04:05] <JoeMaverickSett> !br | junior
[04:05] <tensorpudding> kisuke: if you type something like 'bundler' into the shell, it will search each one of these paths in order until it finds an executable named bundler
[04:05] <tensorpudding> kisuke: you installed bundler by hand, right?
[04:05] <junior> vlww
[04:05] <tensorpudding> kisuke: this is generally not so great an idea
[04:05] <kisuke> tensorpudding: via gems
[04:05] <tensorpudding> kisuke: usually install scripts will install binaries to /usr/local/bin, which is contained in PATH
[04:06] <tensorpudding> kisuke: gem install?
[04:06] <Vast> so apperantly my messages are being interpreted as flooding. did anyone see my question, or were they fuzzed?
[04:06] <tensorpudding> kisuke: that should put them in /usr/local/bin, I think
[04:06] <kisuke> tensorpudding: "sudo gem install bundler"
[04:06] <JoeMaverickSett> !pastebin | Vast
[04:07] <kisuke> tensorpudding: how about i just symlink it to /usr/local/bin/?
[04:07] <tensorpudding> kisuke: well where is the binary?
[04:08] <monokrome> Hey. Has anyone had success with XFi in Ubuntu with Pulse Audio?
[04:08] <Galik> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 and my keyboard is set to US but I need UK. I added a keyboard layout for the UK and deleted the US layout in the keyboard manager. That works but when I restart the computer the UK one has disapeared again and the US one has returned. How can I make my changes permanent?
[04:08] <avi_> Is there any way I can get certain actions to be run (like bash scripts) each time a file is downloaded via a browser to ~/Downloads? I'd be happy writing something in Python/Bash script, but I just don't know if theres a way to watch for changes to the directory..
[04:08] <tensorpudding> kisuke: generally, symlinking will work, but sometimes it does not
[04:08] <kisuke> tensorpudding:  /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/bundle
[04:08] <tensorpudding> kisuke: ugh, really? they put it under /var?
[04:08] <tensorpudding> kisuke: i've never seen a gem do that
[04:09] <kisuke> it came with ruby-gems, and i dont think it installed right, but it wont od any thing else
[04:09] <LinuxFetus> How can I tell if my chipset is 32 bit, or not?
[04:09] <tensorpudding> kisuke: one option is to add /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin to PATH
[04:09] <Vast> is there any reason that grub wouldn't recognise a live usb?
[04:10] <LinuxFetus> Vast, You mean you've plugged in a USB and you want it to appear as a menu entry on grub?
[04:10] <tensorpudding> kisuke: did you install rubygems from Ubuntu's package or by hand?
[04:10] <Vast> yes, exactly
[04:11] <LinuxFetus> Vast, Grub doesn't probe for things to boot when it starts up.  Grub probes for things to boot from inside an OS when you tell it to update.
[04:11] <kisuke> tensorpudding: a PPA actually
[04:11] <Vast> so how would i boot from a live usb?
[04:11] <LinuxFetus> Vast, If you want to boot off of something other than your HDD, you should change your BIOS settings.
[04:11] <Sebass_Rebellion> hii
[04:12] <Vast> oh dear. alright, thats the f2 menu?
[04:12] <Sebass_Rebellion> where i can ask if i have a question abuto transmission (the torrent client)?
[04:12] <LinuxFetus> Vast, You have to tell your BIOS to look for a USB.  Usually it's F2, F8, F10 or F12.  Yeah, it'll say, thought, when your manufacturer logo is displayed.
[04:12] <tensorpudding> kisuke: what does 'file /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/bundler' return?
[04:12] <LinuxFetus> Vast, You're looking to change the BOOT ORDER.
[04:13] <LinuxFetus> Vast, (Or something like that).
[04:13] <diverted> can anyone read russian / kyrilic?
[04:13] <tensorpudding> !ru | diverted
[04:13] <LinuxFetus> Vast, Should have been though, not thought.
[04:13] <Galik> Where is my xorg.conf located in Ubuntu 10.04
[04:13] <kisuke> tensorpudding: standard no such file
[04:13] <diverted> well i can't but i need someone to do me a favor
[04:13] <tensorpudding> Galik: by default xorg.conf is not created, it does autoconfiguration
[04:13] <Kane_Hart_2> could or anyone be willing to offer me a example of what I exactly would type to make a ramdisk of 1024mb please?
[04:13] <Vast> alright, trying that now.
[04:13] <tensorpudding> kisuke: what?
[04:13] <diverted> i have a russian site which i wanna download something from but i cant understand anything
[04:13] <tensorpudding> kisuke: the file doesn't exist?
[04:14] <monokrome> Nobody knows about XFi / Ubuntu? :/
[04:14] <Galik> tensorpudding: Oh, thanks :)
[04:14] <diverted> tensorpudding, do you understand russian?
[04:14] <kisuke> tensor not as bundler, but as bundle it does
[04:14] <tensorpudding> kisuke: ah, that is the name of the executable?
[04:14] <SpyderBite> Google translator, diverted
[04:14] <kisuke> yep
[04:14] <tensorpudding> kisuke: what does file return on it
[04:14] <diverted> SpyderBite, i cant put every single link from the site into a translator..
[04:15] <kisuke> tensorpudding: yep, one sec, ubuntu>win clipbord does not always work
[04:15] <tensorpudding> diverted: find a friend who speaks Russian? choose a different website? maybe the website comes in multiple languages?
[04:15] <Sebass_Rebellion> where i can ask if i have a question about transmission (the torrent client)?
[04:15] <kisuke> tensorpudding: /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/bundle: a /usr/bin/ruby1.8 script text executable
[04:15] <geoffmcc> diverted: hover over link and look where directs too, sometimes filename in url - other than that, learn russian
[04:15] <tensorpudding> kisuke: the salient part is whether it says it is an ELF executable or a ruby script
[04:16] <tensorpudding> kisuke: there's a decent chance that if it is a script, it will fail if you symlink it
[04:16] <kisuke> tensorpudding: its a script, now what?
[04:16] <tensorpudding> kisuke: because of the filepaths
[04:16] <kisuke> tensorpudding: i noticed that
[04:16] <tensorpudding> kisuke: it might, for instance, think that it is in /var/lib when it is in fact in /usr/local/bin, and you'll get errors for things not found if it uses relative paths
[04:17] <tensorpudding> kisuke: you can avoid this by writing a short shell script instead
[04:17] <LinuxFetus> diverted, Have you tried Chromium?  I *believe* it can translate as you surf.
[04:17] <tensorpudding> kisuke: or by adding that path to PATH in your shell config
[04:17] <Vast> LinuxFetus, im still not able to see it. also, how do you shutdown out of an initramfs screen?
[04:18] <Kane_Hart_2> could or anyone be willing to offer me a example of what I exactly would type to make a ramdisk of 1024mb please?
[04:18] <kisuke> tensorpudding: ok i get the shell script bit, but what would the contest be #!=/bin/bash <newline> /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/bundle?
[04:18] <xxxxx> can anyone tell me how i can burn xbox 360 iso files in xubuntu
[04:19] <LinuxFetus> Vast: I'm not sure what you mean, exactly.  Did you change the setting in your Bios?  Are you loading Ubuntu off a Live USB and getting that error?
[04:19] <tensorpudding> kisuke: basically, but that should be #!/bin/sh instead
[04:19] <diverted> LinuxFetus, wow never heard of it, i will try it thanks
[04:19] <kisuke> tensorpudding: thanks
[04:20] <tensorpudding> kisuke: don't forget to make the script executable
[04:20] <LinuxFetus> diverted, It's the version of Chrome you get when you're using Ubuntu.
[04:20] <LinuxFetus> diverted, You should see it in the software center.
[04:20] <Vast> LinuxFetus well i have a partition of linux already on the disk thats giving me that error.
[04:20] <hobble> tensorpudding: How to start iBus Preferences in startup?
[04:20] <LorgonJortle> Howdy!
[04:20] <tensorpudding> hobble: what the heck is iBus?
[04:21] <Vast> thats why im trying to get the liveusb to work, to boot back into linux from that and fix it from there
[04:21] <LorgonJortle> I'm on a live CD right now, and I'm trying to figure out how to get GRUB back where it needs to be after a Win7 install
[04:21] <LinuxFetus> Vast, okay so you have a computer with how many OS's on it and you're trying to load a Live USB instead of the OS?
[04:21] <rahduke> i just popped whats supposed to be a 2gb stick of ddr2 memory into my box and now my ram capacity is only 3.45gigs.... did i get ripped off?
[04:21] <LinuxFetus> Vast, Sorry, I didn't see that (mention my name :P )
[04:21] <rahduke> i already had a 2gb stick in there
[04:21] <LorgonJortle> Many tutorials say to "find /boot/grub/stage1" but grub finds nothing
[04:22] <tensorpudding> hobble: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup maybe
[04:22] <LinuxFetus> rahduke, pastebin: uname -a
[04:22] <Vast> linuxfetus two, UNR and windows seven.
[04:22] <hobble> tensorpudding: System > Preferences > IBUS Preferences. I need it to active another keyboard.
[04:22] <rahduke> why would i need to pastebin my uname?
[04:22] <st> rahduke, switch to PAE kernel
[04:22] <rahduke> Linux rahduke-desktop 2.6.32-22-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 22:02:19 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:22] <rahduke> that just shows kernel
[04:22] <LorgonJortle> So, can I get some help putting GRUB back into the MBR?
[04:22] <yanick_> alright, so the Lexmark S408 has no amd64 driver.... what is the best color InkJet printer to buy?
[04:22] <kisuke> tensorpudding: save as /usr/local/bin/bundler correct?
[04:22] <Vast> linuxfetus i can get into the windows seven partition just fine, but i cant work with the broken partition from there
[04:23] <yanick_> I know it's an HP... but which model?
[04:23] <rahduke> st ohh
[04:23] <kisuke> LorgonJortle: what version of ubuntu?
[04:23] <LinuxFetus> rahduke, Well it also shows your 32-bit version of Linux.
[04:23] <nimbiotics> where can i paste graphics?
[04:23] <LorgonJortle> 10.04, kisuke
[04:23] <kisuke> !grub2 > LorgonJortle
[04:23] <LinuxFetus> rahduke, Oh sorry... yeah it's only one line.
[04:23] <tensorpudding> kisuke: that works
[04:23] <bazhang> rahduke, linux-generic-pae to get all 4GB
[04:23] <LinuxFetus> rahduke, But yeah, i686 is what kind of processor?
[04:23] <LorgonJortle> So I can't get help about GRUB in here?
[04:23] <yanick_> hello ?
[04:24] <rahduke> bazhang: thanks :)
[04:24] <tensorpudding> LinuxFetus: Anything made by Intel or AMD
[04:24] <tensorpudding> LinuxFetus: that is newer than the 386
[04:24] <yanick_> I've asked like 10 questions so far.... can anyone actually read what I write?
[04:24] <tensorpudding> LinuxFetus: and isn't an Itanium
[04:24] <LorgonJortle> yanick_: Yeah, I can.
[04:24] <kisuke> tensorpudding: mmm, after looking at what a diasapora install put there its tempting t ojust  ad /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/ to $path
[04:24] <st> yanick_, you don't choose hardware to fit OS, you choose OS to work with your hardware
[04:24] <rahduke> bazhang: are there any issues with this PAE kernel? and can i switch back easily?
[04:25] <yanick_> LorgonJortle, goodie! I thought I was on mute or something.....
[04:25] <tensorpudding> kisuke: it might be a better solution in the end
[04:25] <bazhang> rahduke, no issues here.
[04:25] <yanick_> st, I need to change my printer....
[04:25] <diverted> LinuxFetus, thanks thats exactly what i needed! Yes, it does translate the whole page if you press a button!
[04:25] <drjo> anyone using gedit-latex-plugin here ?
[04:25] <rahduke> bazhang: i'll have to reset right?
[04:25] <yanick_> st, so I need to choose a hardware for my os :)
[04:25] <bazhang> rahduke, reboot? yes
[04:25] <LorgonJortle> kisuke: I'm trying to get GRUB back on after a Win7 install. I don't see why I wouldn't be able to get help in here.
[04:25] <rahduke> same diff
[04:25] <LinuxFetus> diverted, Awesome.  Firefox/Iceweasel isn't best at everything.
[04:26] <bazhang> LorgonJortle, read the grub2 wiki yet?
[04:26] <LinuxFetus> tensorpudding, I was asking rhetorically... I meant what is the bit (32 or 64) of i686?
[04:26] <bazhang> LinuxFetus, 32
[04:26] <diverted> LinuxFetus, yes i use firefox for default but for rare occassions like this there are better alternatives
[04:26] <rahduke> hey can i swap out my mobo and processor to another 775 asus board without any major issues?
[04:26] <yanick_> st, and I want some tips to help me choose a good printer from anyone who would coincidentally know of a good printer to suggest
[04:26] <tensorpudding> LinuxFetus: It is for 32-bit x86-compatible processors
[04:26] <kisuke> LorgonJortle: ther should have been an mention of recovering grub in there, other wise yo ucan try openBCD
[04:27] <drjo> is there a irc plugin for empathy?
[04:27] <rahduke> currently using an asus 775 board now
[04:27] <st> whatever, amd64 build sucks and should be avoided like plague
[04:27] <tensorpudding> LinuxFetus: It works on 64-bit x86 processors also, but it is 32-bit.
[04:27] <LorgonJortle> kisuke: Alright. I appreciate it.
[04:27] <bazhang> yanick_, this is not a hardware support channel; check the hcl
[04:27] <LinuxFetus> tensorpudding, Right, which is why the person I was asking wasn't seeing the full 4 GB of RAM.
[04:27] <bazhang> !hcl | yanick_
[04:27] <kisuke> LorgonJortle: sure, its what we are here for
[04:28] <rahduke> drjo: im on empathy irc right now
[04:28] <drjo> hmm do i have to install anything to get that ?
[04:28] <rahduke> drjo: just get the latest build i believe...
[04:28] <LinuxFetus> diverted, Err.  I like the algorithm Chromium uses to resize images with [Ctrl] + [+] and [Ctrl] + [-] better
[04:29] <rahduke> http://live.gnome.org/Empathy
[04:29] <drjo> rahduke: compile from source?
[04:29] <rahduke> drjo: i didnt
[04:29] <LinuxFetus> diverted, And I like that you can middle click Javascript controlled links in Chromimum and it actually loads it in a new tab... whereas firefox will just show the javascript code, forcing you to open it in a new windows instead of tab.
[04:29] <kisuke> tensorpudding: man path works right?
[04:29] <LinuxFetus> diverted, And, of course, it loads faster.
[04:29] <tensorpudding> kisuke: what?
[04:29] <drjo> rahduke: what version are you using?
[04:30] <rahduke> Empathy 2.30.2
[04:30] <kisuke> tensorpudding: for adding a dir to path
[04:30] <MuNg> how can i find my ip address
[04:30] <LinuxFetus> MuNg, I'm guessing here... but whatismyipaddress.com
[04:30] <drjo> rahduke: i have the same, but no irc pane in accout setup, hmmz
[04:30] <rahduke> drjo: have a look at this
[04:30] <rahduke> http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1312892&page=2
[04:31] <Vast> LinuxFetus, two; UNR and Windows Seven
[04:31] <rahduke> I was originally having a problem finding IRC in Empathy.
[04:31] <rahduke> But after I added my AIM account on the initial account create, IRC became an available option when I went to add addtional accounts.
[04:31] <LinuxFetus> Vast, Oh sorry I forgot about you!
[04:31] <tensorpudding> kisuke: you can add a director to your path using something like 'export PATH=$PATH:/var/lib/gems/1.8/bin' or whatever in your .bashrc
[04:31] <LinuxFetus> Vast, Alright, we have you successfully changed your BIOS boot order?
[04:31] <kisuke> MuNg: inside you network or on the internet side of your router?
[04:31] <LinuxFetus> Vast, *well
[04:31] <diverted> LinuxFetus, having used it for about 5 minutes now, all i can say is that i like the reduced visuals. im very.. umm i like basic stuff ;p
[04:31] <rahduke> drjo: looks likea  bug...
[04:31] <kisuke> tensorpudding: ok ty for pointer, now off to google
[04:32] <drjo> rahduke: guess ill add my facebook account then
[04:32] <rahduke> yup
[04:32] <LinuxFetus> diverted, Haha, that, too.  I take it you don't like KDE? :P
[04:32] <MuNg> thanks
[04:32] <LinuxFetus> MuNg, You're welcome.  May I suggest installing Tor on Firefox for anonymity?
[04:32] <Vast> LinuxFetus, yeap. but im still not booting into the liveusb. grub pops up like usual
[04:32] <drjo> im trying to force myself not to install anything outside repos or use the cmd too much, i wasted so much time on gentoo and arch, now i just want something that works, so far so good :)
[04:33] <st> tor makes browsing ultra slow
[04:33] <LinuxFetus> Vast, Are you sure you made the Live USB correctly?  How did you make it?
[04:33] <LinuxFetus> st: True.  Do you know of any faster proxies?
[04:33] <LinuxFetus> st: Free ones, of course.
[04:34] <st> i think one should stop playing spies
[04:34] <rahduke> bazhang: changing kernels didnt help, even bios shows 3456mb ram
[04:34] <MuNg> and how can i find my wep key
[04:34] <drjo> anyone know how to get a symbol list in gedit-latex-plugin?
[04:34] <Vast> LinuxFetus, yup, pretty sure. this is the liveusb i used to install linux in the first place, before grub. i used the ubuntu live-usb utility
[04:35] <st> rahduke, bios has nothing to do with PAE, obviously
[04:35] <rahduke> 3456gb cant b the limit on 32bit architecture that would be a complete ripoff
[04:35] <rahduke> st obviously
[04:35] <diverted> LinuxFetus, well i use gnome, is that kde? actually i'm quite happy with my desktop and overall screen, i have 2 slim bars on top and bottom and thats it
[04:35] <MuNg> LinuxFetus : what is Tor
[04:35] <LinuxFetus> Vast, Well if you've successfully used that USB, then I don't know what the problem could be with that.
[04:35] <yanick_> is it possible to install a i386 driver into an amd64 machine?
[04:35] <rahduke> Tor is a kiddie porn palace
[04:35] <tensorpudding> If the BIOS shows 3456 MB RAM, then it isn't an issue of the OS.
[04:35] <rahduke> mung dont mess with Tor
[04:35] <LinuxFetus> MuNg, I'm not trying to sound rude, but have you considered Googling something instead of asking in an IRC, first?
[04:36] <rahduke> it is the last dirty dark corner for peedos online
[04:36] <MuNg> rahduke : how can i find my WEP key
[04:36] <Vast> LinuxFetus then is there any other way you know of to fix an error taking me into initramfs?
[04:36] <rahduke> mung are you kidding?
[04:36] <sedulous> rahduke: do you have an onboard gpu by any chance?
[04:36] <bazhang> MuNg, yours? you should know it. or you mean cracking wep
[04:36] <tensorpudding> MuNg: you can find your WEP key by checking your router.
[04:36] <rahduke> sedulous: i do but dont use it
[04:37] <sedulous> rahduke: that might explain the missing RAM. check the BIOS for that
[04:37] <MuNg> I dont have a router im jacking it from my neighbor
[04:37] <LinuxFetus> Vast, I have no idea how to overcome that error.  Does it even take you into the login screen?  Have you tried the safe mode choice or whatever in Grub?
[04:37] <rahduke> sedulous: good idea, didnt think of that
[04:37] <bazhang> MuNg, that is not supported here so dont ask again
[04:37] <sedulous> you can usually configure the amount of RAM that's reserved for the onboard GPU there, rahduke
[04:37] <rahduke> thanks
[04:37] <sedulous> MuNg: i hope your neighbor runs an upside-down-ternet transparent http proxy
[04:37] <tensorpudding> MuNg: I'm sure your neighbor would be happy to tell it to you when you ask.
[04:38] <MuNg> he is my friend he doesnt know how to get his wep key so im trying to get it for him
[04:38] <bazhang> MuNg, stop
[04:38] <rahduke> lol
[04:38] <LinuxFetus> lol
[04:38] <tensorpudding> MuNg: this has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[04:38] <Vast> LinuxFetus nope, it boots strait into it, even in recovery mode.
[04:38] <rahduke> change your nick and come back then reword your question...lol
[04:39] <drjo> logged in from empathy now :)
[04:39] <LinuxFetus> rahduke++;
[04:39] <LinuxFetus> hahahahaha
[04:39] <rahduke> drjo: thats a weird issue
[04:39] <drjo> rahduke: yeah all i had to do was add my facbook account and remove it again :p
[04:39] <Vast> LinuxFetus if i had to guess, intramfs means initial ram failsafe, and its its own command line, just
[04:40] <Vast> LinuxFetus 'under' the filesystem
[04:40] <rahduke> whos using tor here?
[04:40] <LinuxFetus> Vast, I would try Googling that error.  The only thing you would be able to do without loading an OS live would be to use the command-line for Grub... either that or somehow edit the Linux file system/grub from within Windows.
[04:40] <st> is it possible to fix a pendrive after it has been used as bootable media?
[04:40] <rahduke> i really can't justify any legit reason to use that thing....it should be shut donw
[04:40] <bazhang> st sure
[04:40] <tensorpudding> I used to use Tor, but it's pretty slow.
[04:40] <LinuxFetus> tensorpudding, What do you use now for the same effect?
[04:40] <tensorpudding> this is not relevant though
[04:41] <rahduke> tensorpudding: yea i tried it too, its way to slow and it has real kiddie porn, i wrote to fbi about it never got a response
[04:41] <nimbiotics> hi all. using ubuntu 10.04, ive got the partitions shown at http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2wlspjo&s=7 . i tried gparted live cd to resize sd6 (my ubuntu partition) and take all free space, but i cannot resize, nor move none of the partitions. how can i do what i want> TIA!
[04:41] <LinuxFetus> rahduke, Kiddie porn?  What do you mean?  I know Child porn is illegal, but I've never had it do anything but take me to the sites I ask it to.
[04:41] <tensorpudding> Just because it is used by child pornographers, doesn't mean that it should be illegal, that's awful logic.
[04:42] <bazhang> !ot
[04:42] <LucidGuy> Recommendations.. Best Single player capable Linux FPS game?
[04:42] <kneaux> where can i get a list of keymap names
[04:42] <rahduke> LinuxFetus: this is real deal child porn, with like peedos describing how they molest and groom kids, pointers all sort of really messed up stuff
[04:42] <bazhang> rahduke, lets move on please
[04:42] <rahduke> lol yea 4real
[04:42] <rahduke> LucidGuy: nexuiz
[04:43] <rahduke> oh single player
[04:43] <rahduke> lol
[04:43] <LinuxFetus> nimbiotics, I presume you're trying to edit your only OS partition from a Live CD?
[04:43] <rahduke> good luck
[04:43] <rahduke> Prey or doom 3 prolly
[04:43] <nimbiotics> LinuxFetus: yes
[04:43] <LucidGuy> rahduke, thats new to me .. checking now.
[04:43] <LinuxFetus> nimbiotics, Good.  do you see the lock icons next to the partitions?
[04:44] <nimbiotics> LinuxFetus: yes
[04:44] <LorgonJortle> I just tried installing GRUB after a Win7 install, and when I booted back up, I had GRUB, but only the GRUB prompt, and no boot options.
[04:44] <rahduke> LucidGuy: Wine now runs a lot of good windows FPS games, wine has gotten pretty good in 2.*
[04:44] <LinuxFetus> nimbiotics, That means the partitions are currently mounted.  Right click and then unmount and you should be able to edit them.
[04:44] <LorgonJortle> !grub > LorgonJortle
[04:44] <rahduke> 1.2 rather
[04:45] <LinuxFetus> nimbiotics, Note that you cannot resize the extended partition without first unmounting ALL logical ones.
[04:45] <hmorel> hi i am new to all this and i need some help,,,,,, can someone here didicate some time to me in private?
[04:46] <bazhang> hmorel, ask here
[04:46] <hmorel> kkk
[04:46] <LinuxFetus> lol
[04:46] <LucidGuy> rahduke, whats the best game you were able to get running on wine?
[04:46] <LinuxFetus> Since people are constantly coming and going, I'll restate my question:  Can anyone tell me how to determine if my chipset is 32-bit or 64-bit?
[04:46] <nimbiotics> LinuxFetus:i thought that by booting from live cd (on usb), none of those partitions would be mounted (not sure i do understand that concepet)
[04:46] <rahduke> sometimes i just want someone to remotedesktop and fix my problems for me....lol
[04:46] <LucidGuy> rahduke, I've had no luck with my games of interest
[04:47] <hmorel> issue one (i have a DELL D400 laptop running on ubuntu 9.10 when i close the lid the computer freezes up and i am forced to do a hard shutdown.
[04:47] <rahduke> LucidGuy: sorry to hear that, but you will find that lots of windows games are compatiable in wine
[04:47] <nimbiotics> LinuxFetus: how do i unmount those logical partitions?
[04:47] <LinuxFetus> nimbiotics, It will automatically mount them, but don't worry; you can unmount them and they'll be fine.  Mounted just means that you can access the data on them and you can use them (like your swap is mounted so your Live CD is currently using it, I believe.  You might need to do something in the terminal before you can unmount it).
[04:47] <extraclassic> LinuxFetus: there's a program called Ailurus that'll give system settings and it'll tell you
[04:48] <XuMuK> hi there! My trouble is that after I append Pidgin Developers PPA the notifications under envelope on the top panel has disappeared! Could someone tell mi how can I fix it for get it back?
[04:48] <XuMuK> http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3002/envelopeg.jpg
[04:48] <LinuxFetus> extraclassic, Thanks, I'll try it.
[04:48] <LinuxFetus> nimbiotics, Read what I wrote earlier.  (That means the...)
[04:48] <hmorel> Oh no! am i left alone
[04:48] <Skandranon> back again... checked the cd for errors, none found, ran mem test passed 8 passes... installed from the install prompt same menu as memtest and back to the same purple maroonish screen wit lights n stuff... working mouse nothing else... cannt even clt alt del to reboot. 10.04 was working before the reinstall I dont understand the #&@! problem
[04:49] <LinuxFetus> nimbiotics, Actually, that may not have been super clear.  Right click, and you'll see a menu.  On that, click "unmount".
[04:49] <LinuxFetus> nimbiotics, There will only be a few options that aren't gray-ed out.
[04:49] <nimbiotics> LinuxFetus: thanks, will try that!
[04:49] <hmorel> someone? please help me
[04:49] <LinuxFetus> nimbiotics, Do that for all three.
[04:49] <wasnik> hi guys ubuntu is not detectin my conexant hd smartaudio 221 card. please help
[04:50] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, When you close the lid, what do you see when you open it again?
[04:50] <hmorel> blank pc frozen unable to do anything
[04:50] <toshi> inserting an SD card gives me an error message: "unable to mount SANVOL" not authorized. google turns up nothing. 10.04
[04:51] <wasnik> hi guys ubuntu is not detectin my conexant hd smartaudio 221 card. please help
[04:51] <toshi> lspci shows SD reader has been detected
[04:52] <wasnik> hi guys ubuntu is not detectin my conexant hd smartaudio 221 card. please help
[04:52] <Kane_Hart> I'm guessing no one here uses xen hehe
[04:53] <Skandranon> reinstall problems... been trying to get this work all day.... need help please
[04:53] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Please address someone by using their name.  You should be able to type the first few characters and then tab until their name shows up.
[04:54] <afzal-bigbell> I want to do this chat
[04:54] <wasnik> hi guys ubuntu is not detectin my conexant hd smartaudio 221 card. please help
[04:54] <LinuxFetus> wasnik, If someone knows the answer and has time to explain, they will.  No one had joined since your first question, so reposting did nothing.
[04:54] <XuMuK> wasnik, try adding your user to plugdev group
[04:54] <hmorel> okay ut i've never done this before and its so confusing, infact i don't even know who is helping me..
[04:54] <XuMuK> wasnik, sudo gpasswd -a wasnik plugdev
[04:55] <hmorel> someone please don't let me drown
[04:55] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, type [L][I][N][tab]
[04:55] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Does my name show up?
[04:55] <XuMuK> hi there! My trouble is that after I append Pidgin Developers PPA the notifications under envelope on the top panel has disappeared! Could someone tell mi how can I fix it for get it back?
[04:55] <XuMuK> http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3002/envelopeg.jpg
[04:55] <hmorel> yes
[04:55] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Alright do that when you're talking to someone.  We sometimes minimze the window and we will get notified when someone addresses us like  that.
[04:56] <wasnik> XumuK,  this is still what i get aplay -l
[04:56] <wasnik> aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found..
okay i understand,,,can you please help me?
[04:56] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, I'll try.
[04:56] <GordonS> heya all
[04:56] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Hold one for 30 seconds.
[04:57] <snadg3> what is the default boot option for the ubuntu 10.04 usb install, if you leave it and dont do anything.. boot from hard disk?
[04:57] <LinuxFetus> extraclassic, I'm not too good with Hardware.  From what I understand, my chipset is on my Motherboard and it can be 32-bit even though my processor and OS can be 64-bit.  When inside Ailurus, I go to Information > Hardware information, but, from what I can tell, my chipset isn't listed.  It does say 64-bit, but I believe that is only in reference to my processor.
[04:57] <GordonS> is there a way to download the various preseed files without having to pull down the whole iso image?
thank you, okay i will
[04:57] <snadg3> i accidentally left my usb key in the drive on my machine at work, and i need to reboot it, i think it defaults to booting usb :/
[04:57] <havetoo> h
[04:57] <GordonS> snadg3: and it won't fall back to other boot options?
[04:57] <Nim_> thats a prediciment, snadg.
[04:57] <LinuxFetus> snadg3, have you changed your BIOS so it looks for HD before USB?
[04:58] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Alright, So what's your issue?
[04:58] <Nim_> I think snadg is remotely accessing the pc :P
[04:58] <snadg3> LinuxFetus, i don't think so, i cant remember
[04:58] <snadg3> i think usb might be higher priority than hard drive.. from memory, im not sure :/ thats why im wondering what the usb boot does by default if you dont select anything
[04:58] <XuMuK> wasnik, sorry, I though it was some SD card...
[04:58] <extraclassic> LinuxFetus: i was talking about the listing that says "64-bit computer" but beyond that I don't know
[04:59] <XuMuK> wasnik, what do it say aplay -l
[04:59] <LinuxFetus> Snadder, Well as far as I know, from a default install, Ubuntu won't change your boot order in terms of optical/USB/Hdd/etc. so if it was USB when you left, it'll still be USB.
[04:59] <geoffmcc> snadg3: i think if it doesnt find something to boot it will move on to next
[04:59] <XuMuK> wasnik, lspci|grep -i audio
[04:59] <toshi> XuMuK, what theme are you using? it looks like an OSX rip?
[04:59] <Skandranon> 10.04 reinstall weird problem.. anyone able to help?
[04:59] <LinuxFetus> extraclassic, Ahh... yeah I'm looking for my chipset; my computer is only showing 3.5 GB of RAM, even though I have a 64-bit processor and I'm running 64-bit Ubuntu.
[04:59] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Alright, So what's your issue?
okay i have a Dell Latitude D400, i can't get ubuntu 10.04 or higher isntalled so i was forced to use 9.10, everything works great but when i close the lid on the laptop the system freezes up and i am force to do a forced shutdown)
[05:00] <XuMuK> hi there! My trouble is that after I append Pidgin Developers PPA the notifications under envelope on the top panel has disappeared! Could someone tell mi how can I fix it for get it back?
[05:00] <XuMuK> http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3002/envelopeg.jpg
[05:00] <GordonS> hmorel: lemme guess, video issues?
[05:00] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Oh, and sometimes I forget what I'm doing when I'm talking to people, so if I post like 3+ times without talking to you and it's been over a minutes or two, you can post again.
[05:00] <Nim_> #leave
[05:00] <Skandranon> LinuxFetus only showing 3.5 gigs of ram is the same thing windows xp 32 bit used to do... noob at ubuntu though
[05:00] <FloridaGuy> is there away to ujust the rss-glx screensavers in gnome like you can in kde..for there different settings
[05:00] <LinuxFetus> Skandranon, ARe you saying you or I are a noob?
[05:00] <formolQC> someone know if this green cable named "P4" is normally used on a standard cheap ATX motherboard http://hwt.dk/literaturedetails.aspx?TeaserID=3269 ?
okay
[05:01] <Skandranon> <-- I
[05:01] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, I've never used 9.10, so my help will be limited.  What happens when you open the lid.
[05:01] <bazhang> formolQC, try ##hardware
[05:01] <LinuxFetus> Skandranon, Ahh... yeah :/
[05:01] <GordonS> formoIQC: the connector names are not standard
[05:01] <XuMuK> toshi, yes, it is
[05:01] <Skandranon> LinuxFetus sorry just saw your problem and I remember having it on xp b4.. guess that wasnt really helpful, sorry
[05:01] <GordonS> that's just the labels the manufacturer picked
[05:01] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, After closing it, of course.
[05:01] <wasnik> XuMuk: I dont get any output with that command
[05:01] <formolQC> thx for the answer
[05:01] <LinuxFetus> Skandranon, It's okay.
 dark but turned on screen and nothing response
[05:02] <LinuxFetus> Skandranon, I'm still new, too *points to name*
[05:02] <GordonS> hmorel: what did later installations do?
[05:02] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, So you've tried moving the keyboard aroudn and mouse and everything?
[05:02] <formolQC> bazhang, #hardware is invite only
 they would freeze when ubuntu logo shows as booting
[05:02] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Huh?
[05:02] <bazhang> formolQC, ##hardware
[05:03] <hmorel> yes nothing moves and later versions wont install
[05:03] <formolQC> oh, it works :)
[05:03] <GordonS> what do you mean by "won't install"?
[05:03] <LinuxFetus> formolQC, Sometimes ##CHANNEL is different from #CHANNEL; Sometimes it redirects.
[05:03] <geoffmcc> hmorel: i had that prob b4 but couldnt rembmer why, did quick serch- is it set to hybernate when close lid?
[05:03] <LinuxFetus> geoffmcc, That's what I was going to ask.
[05:03] <Guest57563> i'm trying to get wifi going in straight openbox. I was following this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1176169&postcount=1 but i'm not getting a dhcp IP. any hints?
 those options i have turned off
[05:04] <Guest57563> nick Out_Cold_
[05:04] <geoffmcc> LinuxFetus: i knew i had that b4 but couldnt remmber how fixed and soon as saw post i remembered
[05:04] <EdMoney> for a laptop, should I use ubuntu netbook or ubuntu desktop?
[05:04] <XuMuK> wasnik, in fact, it doesn't recognize it... you're right. It always were so or before it was working fine?
[05:04] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, What options have been turned off?
[05:04] <GordonS> EdMoney: depends on how much of a laptop it is :)
[05:04] <XuMuK> EdMoney, as you want...
[05:05] <EdMoney> ok, just trying to trouble shoot why my install isn't working
[05:05] <Out_Cold_> EdMoney, the unr has plain gnome if you want to switch between both
[05:05] <hmorel> for the lappy to do nothing upon closing lid
[05:05] <Nim_> :D lol
[05:05] <wasnik> XuMuk: I just installed ubuntu and m havin the problem since then
[05:05] <LinuxFetus> Is there a way to have my clipboard act as a stack (first-in, first-out)?
[05:05] <sisterd> hello guys on lucid lynx here. having trouble printing -- it keeps asking me to authenticate, but all my printers are shared with everyone having permissiobn, and the authenticationr equest does not identify what user is meant to be authenticated. any clues on how to fix this?
[05:06] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, In System > Preferences > Power Management what does it say it does when the lid is closed?  That entry may not exist because the menu layout may be different (i.e. it may not be called quite power management).
[05:06] <Skandranon> 10.04 reinstall weird problem.. anyone able to help?
[05:07] <rames2> hi all, i am having a really hard time getting ubuntu netbook thingy booting from a usb drive... read tons of docs but i don't know how to troubleshoot bootable usb
[05:07] <extraclassic> sisterd: the user would be whoever is logged in that has access to the printer on the computer where it's installed
[05:07] <st> how to convert pdf file to normal format in ubu ntu?
[05:07] <Out_Cold_> rames2, use unetbootin.... problem solved
[05:07] <rames2> out_cold_: is that packaged?
[05:08] <sisterd> extraclassic: that's what i would have thought. But, no user/password combination that exists on either computer is being accepted (it only asks for a pw, no username provided)
[05:08] <Out_Cold_> st pdftotext <file.pdf>
[05:08] <Out_Cold_> rames2, yes
[05:08] <Out_Cold_> rames2, unetbootin is the ultimate bootable usb creator
[05:08] <sisterd> both computers have both users established as a member of the administrator's group on each computer. So, i'm really at a loss and confused why there is even an authetication request in the first place.
[05:08] <extraclassic> sisterd: then it's probably a user/password that you have to assign in a .conf file
 the option is set to bank screen, i have already tried it with suspend, hibernate and shutdown and none of the options work....
[05:09] <sisterd> how/where do I find that information out? never had a password for the printer in the past
[05:09] <rames2> out_cold_: i've ~burned~ 2 usb devices (master is a mac, trying to upgrade crappy netbook to ubuntu) ... dd if=... of=..., etc...
[05:10] <extraclassic> sisterd: if you're using cups then there are walkthroughs if you do a search...i can't remember the files offhand
[05:10] <rames2> out_cold_: netbook doesn't want to "take" the bootable media ... i've been in and out of bios, disabled all other devices, etc.
[05:10] <sisterd> i'm a newbie. how do i know if i am useing cups?
[05:11] <Out_Cold_> rames2, try the unetbootin... if that doesn't work then come back and work on another solution. it's possible your stick just doesn't have a boot flag
[05:11] <extraclassic> you are i think...just find a guide for cups....search for "cups linux printing" or something
[05:11] <rames2> out_cold_: get message "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key"
[05:12] <Out_Cold_> rames2, what are you doing to get that msg?
?
[05:13] <sisterd> ok, i think i am using cups because when i do a system/administration/printing and check the properties/try to print a test page i get /usr/lib/cups/dnssd failed and then the same but with usb failed at the end for the other isntance of the printer.
[05:13] <rames2> out_cold_: asus eee pc 1000, go into bios, disable all built-in HD's, enable only *detected* USB device and list that as first last and only boot device / boot order / boot priority
[05:13] <geoffmcc> sisterd: although i havent done printing in samba i know it supports. good thing with samba if u create a user and pw on computer a and have same on computer b u will never be prompted for a pw
[05:14] <Out_Cold_> rames2, then most likely, there is no boot flag for the usb... it's all in the creation.. i'm still recommending unetbootin..
[05:14] <sisterd> geoffmcc: I am sorry for such a lack of knowledge. but what is samba?
[05:14] <Arafangi1n> Hey, does Ubuntu 10.4 Beta 2 contain NTFS support by default in Live CD Mode?
[05:14] <MichaelSOG> 10.04
[05:14] <rames2> out_cold_: ugh... any mac-ish ones to look for?
[05:15] <geoffmcc> sisterd: file and print sharing. i use it for filesharing between ubuntu + windows
[05:15] <rames2> out_cold_: i don't have a linux gui box a.t.m... that's what i'm trying to d/l ubuntu for.  :^) ... anyway, i'll look aoround some more, thanks for the tips
[05:15] <sisterd> ok. i'm doing between osx and ubuntu. i take it samba is the proper name for the protocol that begins with smb://   ?
[05:15] <Out_Cold_> rames2, it may be available in mac, i am nearly certain it is in windows
[05:15] <geoffmcc> sisterd: yes
[05:15] <hmorel> okay maybe someone can help me getting school admin installed?
[05:16] <geoffmcc> sisterd: looking threw smb.conf i see setting for printing
[05:16] <Skandranon> 10.04 reinstall weird problem.. after installing loads a desktop picture and nothing else, mouse works, no task bar, will do nothing at all. anyone able to help?
[05:16] <sisterd> geoffmcc: ok. right now, both of my printers are showing up automatically without me establishing the configuration manually like you have to on windows and osx. so the cups vs samba discussion was a mystery but I think I am catching up.
[05:16] <geoffmcc> sisterd: then if u have an account on osx with same user and password as account on ubuntu u will get no password requests - otherwise just log in with aprop account
[05:16] <rames2> out_cold_: http://www.docstechnotes.com/2009/05/create-bootable-usb-drive-using-os-x.html
[05:16] <Arafangi1n> sisterd: Actually...  There's a bunch of names for it, but it's not samba. samba's the only widely used non-microsoft program that can service it, though. :)
[05:17] <rames2> out_cold_: this is pretty much exactly what i'm doing
[05:17] <Out_Cold_> rames2, if you dd'd the image, there may be an fdisk type util (not sure on mac) that sets boot flag
[05:17] <hmorel> help  installing schooltool on ubuntu
[05:17] <sisterd> arafangi1n: thank you. (there never is an easy quick true definition it seems.. but the clarification usually ends up really solving problems in the end.)
[05:17] <rames2> out_cold_: k... and actually i'm reading up at the top "some will function as usb boot some won't"
[05:19] <Arafangi1n> sisterd: The name "samba" was chosen by searching /usr/dict/words for names that contain 's', 'm', and 'b'. :)
[05:19] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Sorry, I was gone.
[05:19] <junior> ubuntu br
[05:19] <EdMoney> I'm getting the error "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error. A desktop session will now be run so that you many investigate the problem or try installing again". When I press ok, goes to black background screen with the top line saying "(Process:325): GLib-Warning **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0), more errors, and then a bunch of Buffer I/O error, dev ar0...eventually
[05:19] <EdMoney> gets to purple screen, but after 50 minutes of waiting, I kill the install. Used ISO ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso, running Windows 7 Home Premium, Sony Vaio, 64 bit, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6600 @ 2.2 GHz. Any suggestions? I can post pictures of error screens on a forum if helpful.
[05:19] <junior> ???????
okay
[05:19] <Arafangi1n> sisterd: smb, netbios, and cifs are probably as close as you'll get to the proper protocol names, although each of those talk about different aspects.
[05:19] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Hmm I'm not sure.  Sorry.
?
[05:19] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, I mean, I'm not sure what to say after that.
[05:19] <hmorel>  <LinuxFetus> can you halep me install schooltoll
[05:19] <junior> alguem sabe o canal do ubuntu br
[05:20] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Is that a windows-based program?
[05:20] <sisterd> arafangi1n: ok. well i had heard of netbios in the past, and had used but not named "samba". cifs - thjios is the first time i've heard it.
[05:20] <hmorel> no ubuntu
[05:20] <geoffmcc> junior: ubuntu-br
[05:21] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Well generally you can get software by going to the Software Center.  Try Applications > Ubuntu Software Center.
[05:21] <junior> geo
[05:21] <junior> naum acessou
[05:21] <LinuxFetus> If you're decent with computers and they seem to "make sense" normally, you may also want to try the Synaptic Package Manager.
 it doesn't come up
[05:21] <junior> #ubuntu-br
[05:21] <junior> ?
[05:21] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, What doesn't come up?  The software doesn't show up when you search for it?
 yes
[05:22] <teacher> teacher
[05:22] <bullgard4_> Synaptic: "XMLStarlet is a set of command line utilities (tools) which can be used to transform, query, validate, and edit XML documents and files using {a} simple set of shell commands in {a} similar way it is done for plain text files using {the} UNIX commands grep, sed, awk, diff, patch, join, etc." How can I use xmlstarlet to search in the directory ~/abc and its subdirectories for the...
[05:22] <bullgard4_> ...string "abc"?
 please look at here showing my previous problem
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582802
 i am cofused and not know what to do
[05:23] <LinuxFetus> hmorel,  believe there should be something called "add/remove programs" for Ubuntu 9.10, from a quick Google search.  Not sure where it would be.  Maybe System > Administration.  I'll look at the link now.
[05:23] <Skandranon> 10.04 reinstall weird problem.. after installing loads a desktop picture and nothing else, mouse works, no task bar, will do nothing at all. anyone able to help?
[05:24] <EdMoney> Anyone help with this -- I'm getting the error "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error. A desktop session will now be run so that you many investigate the problem or try installing again". When I press ok, goes to black background screen with the top line saying "(Process:325): GLib-Warning **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0), more errors, and then a bunch of Buffer
[05:24] <EdMoney> I/O error, dev ar0...eventually gets to purple screen, but after 50 minutes of waiting, I kill the install. Used ISO ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso, running Windows 7 Home Premium, Sony Vaio, 64 bit, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6600 @ 2.2 GHz. Any suggestions? I can post pictures of error screens on a forum if helpful.
[05:24] <extraclassic> hmorel: that happens on my laptop, but I just let mine hibernate and don't close it...i just leave it sitting on table and don't take it anywhere though
 <extraclassic> but i am on the go and i need to move from class to class since i am a teacher
[05:26] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Does that mean you won't be able to be here for a while/
[05:26] <geoffmcc> hmorel: is this still laptop freez on lid close? and hibernation wasnt the problem?
[05:26] <hmorel> no at at home now
[05:27] <LinuxFetus> geoffmcc, On the link hmorel gave, it appears it may be a driver issue (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582802)
[05:27] <hmorel> yes for instance if i close the lid regardless the settings/preference i have on the system crfashes
[05:27] <sisterd> ok. lucid lynx... just downloaded an hplip driver for my printer which came as a .run file it has been associated with gedit (dont know why?) and when i open a terminal and type in the command to run the shell script (as instructed at the website) i get a "sh: Can't open hplip-3.10.2.run" response.
[05:28] <zeleftikam> how can i find out what sort of hardware my computer is running from the command line? i'd like to know the processor type and speed.
[05:28] <xbonesx> need help stopping x-server so i can install this... http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_100.14.09.html
[05:28] <tensorpudding> sisterd: did you do 'sh hplip-3.10.2.run'
[05:28] <geoffmcc> LinuxFetus: oh ok, must be different from when i had issue
[05:28] <rames2> zeleftikam: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:29] <rames2> zeleftikam: i think... cd /proc and start poking around (carefully! :^)
[05:29] <zeleftikam> rames2» perfect, thanks!
[05:29] <zeleftikam> yep
[05:29] <zeleftikam> model name	: Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2374 HE
[05:29] <sisterd> tensorpudding: yes, that is the command that generated the "can't" response
[05:29] <tensorpudding> sisterd: are you in the right directory?
[05:29] <tensorpudding> sisterd: i.e. are you in the directory where the file is located
[05:30] <sisterd> tensorpudding: yes, they told me to put it in my desktop and then do a "cd desktop" before executing the command. so, yes my prompt defines me as in desktop
[05:30] <rames2> zeleftikam: out of curiosity what are your bogomips?
[05:30] <zeleftikam> 4400.17 per core
[05:30] <zeleftikam> what does that mean?
[05:30] <Skandranon> 10.04 reinstall weird problem.. after installing loads a desktop picture and nothing else, mouse works, no task bar, will do nothing at all. anyone able to help?
[05:30] <rames2> i'm showing 3203 on a intel atom 1.6ghz (netbook)
[05:31] <rames2> bogomips == "bogus mips" mips == millions instructions per second
 okay if my first problem can't be fixed can we please work on my second
[05:31] <tensorpudding> sisterd: that is odd then
[05:31] <zeleftikam> rames2» ah. this is a rackspace cloud server. it seems limited.
[05:31] <tensorpudding> sisterd: have you tried right-clicking, and making the file executable?
[05:31] <rames2> it has to do with timing loops for the kernel ... sometimes it needs to wait a second and it kindof makes up "eh: loop 3000 times and that'll be about a second"
[05:32] <zeleftikam> ah
[05:32] <tensorpudding> sisterd: under the right-click menu, properties -> permissions tab -> check the box after Execute:
[05:32] <sisterd> tensorpudding: yes, I have. and, that's where I notice that the file has been associated with the program gedit. which doesn't seem liek what i would want if i want it to be an executable. but that's a guess.
[05:32] <hmorel> anybody,,, help me installing a program
[05:32] <hmorel> ?
[05:32] <tensorpudding> sisterd: if it is marked as executable then double-clicking should ask you if you want to execute it
[05:33] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Alright try putting this in your terminal: sudo apt-get install pastebinit | cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[05:33] <tensorpudding> sisterd: it should say "do you want to run the file or view its contents"
[05:33] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, That installs a pastebin program and then puts the output of that file into pastebinit
[05:33] <sisterd> tensorpudding: ok that seems to have done the trick. just wouldn't let me do it from within terminal for some reason.
[05:33] <Phillys_BigE> Hey.
[05:33] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, It gives you a link, that you can then post in here.
[05:33] <tensorpudding> sisterd: you'll want to run it in terminal
[05:33] <sisterd> tensorpudding: it doesnt let me
[05:33] <EdMoney> Can anyone help with this install error : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1576881
[05:34] <tensorpudding> sisterd: hmm
[05:34] <sisterd> but, it seems to be working fine as a self-extracting doohickey
[05:34] <tensorpudding> sisterd: okay
[05:34] <sisterd> tensorpudding: ok, installation notes tell me to enable the universe/multiverse repositories... any clue on that?
 i don't know how to do it, there is a free program i use for giving support called teamviewer can you help me by giving me the support
[05:35] <zetheroo1> I am trying to use Pitivi in Ubuntu Lucid and it won't render anything ... there are no error messages either ... even when run from within the terminal
[05:35] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, did you try the command I gave you?
[05:35] <TiK_> question there is no /dev/dsp so what is my soundcard? :P
[05:35] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, You don't know how to do what?
[05:35] <bullgard4_> Synaptic: "XMLStarlet is a set of command line utilities (tools) which can be used to transform, query, validate, and edit XML documents and files using {a} simple set of shell commands in {a} similar way it is done for plain text files using {the} UNIX commands grep, sed, awk, diff, patch, join, etc." How can I use xmlstarlet to search in the directory ~/abc and its subdirectories for the...
[05:35] <bullgard4_> ...string "abc"?
[05:36] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Please be specific (i.e. refrain from pronouns a bit more than you've been doing) as it saves time.
[05:37] <hmorel> i am a slow typer and i don't know how to use the sufu or respository i am just plain not linux smart so please forgive mehttp://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx?os=linux
[05:37] <Arafangi1n> What's the difference between the "desktop" and "netbook" versions of ubuntu?
[05:37] <bazhang> hmorel, have a read of the ubuntu manual first
[05:38] <bazhang> !manual | hmorel
[05:38] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Do you know if you're using 32-bit or 64-bit?
[05:38] <bazhang> hmorel, not a good idea to ask people to remote your computer
[05:38] <tensorpudding> sisterd: go to Software Sources in the Ubuntu menu
[05:38] <hmorel> 32bit
[05:38] <tensorpudding> sisterd: and check to enable those repositories
[05:38] <lludw> Arafangi1n: one is optimized for a desktop and the other is optimized for a notebook.
[05:39] <tensorpudding> sisterd: most likely they should be enabled already
[05:39] <bazhang> Arafangi1n, small clickable icons on the remix, not very configurable
[05:39] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Oh wow I didn't even see what program you're trying to use.  Yeah, that's not a good idea.  I'm not going to abuse that, but I don't want you to gain a false sense of trust because of someone like me, because while most people in #ubuntu are really nice and you can trust them.. it only takes one to mess things up.
[05:39] <sisterd> tensorpudding: thank you.t hat is simpler than where i was heading (the ubuntu repositories page.. which gives me a terminal command that requires me to know the repository location....)
[05:40] <Arafangi1n> lludw: That is implied...  The question is what's the _difference_.
[05:40] <bazhang> Arafangi1n, I just told you
[05:41] <Arafangi1n> bazhang: So... Different window manager?
[05:41] <LinuxFetus> bazhang, I think Arafangi1n means how is the optimization better: does it have less graphically intensive things that make it lighter, but less pretty and whatnot?
[05:41] <bazhang> Arafangi1n, small clickable icons to bring up different apps
[05:42] <zetheroo1> how do you get the touchpad double-click feature work where you can double-click and dray a window or pull a scrollbar?
[05:42] <Arafangi1n> So it's merely has a different UI that results it being more suitable for tiny screens?
[05:42] <MTecknology> Are any of you using the 64bit flash plugin? Adobe is no longer offering it and I'd really like to get a hold of it. They offered it during a beta trial period. I linked to it on my blog and really should have uploaded the file... :(
[05:42] <bazhang> Arafangi1n, right
[05:42] <Arafangi1n> bazhang: Sounds good. :)  I wonder why they don't say so on the site... "Optimised for smaller screens".
[05:43] <[R]> MTecknology: they just annouced its coming back
[05:43] <MTecknology> [R]: linky?
[05:43] <[R]> MTecknology: google.com
[05:43] <zetheroo1> drag not dray *
[05:43] <Skandranon> one last time b4 I give up for the night: 10.04 reinstall weird problem.. after installing loads a desktop picture and nothing else, mouse works, no task bar, will do nothing at all. anyone able to help?
[05:43] <bazhang> MTecknology, webupd8.org
[05:43] <MTecknology> :D
[05:43] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, Are you looking for a 64-bit flash plugin for firefox and Ubuntu?  Someone gave one to me the other day here.  I scanned the binary for viruses using "Virus Scanner."  The person said I could give it to someone else... do you want it?
[05:44] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: sure
[05:44] <hmorel> okay i understand
[05:44] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: fresh install?
[05:44] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 yes.. I went so far as to wipe the partion table
[05:44] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: looks like your profile is not loading for some reason
[05:44] <brent> how do I stream /dev/input/js0 to the terminal window?
[05:45] <[R]> brent: stream?
[05:45] <_raghu> I am running an ubuntu server (aws machine). When I run top, load averages is always above 1, however my cpu utilization is well below 5%. How do I find out whats causing the high load
[05:45] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 total noob to linux, not sure what that means. I did check the disk for errors and run mem test, all good there
[05:45] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, Alright I'm gonna send it to you via IRC, unless you have objections (I haven't done this in forever -- is it safe to send files over IRC?)
[05:45] <bullgard4_> What program package provides the framebuffer driver fb?
[05:45] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: sure
[05:46] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: unless you want to email instead
[05:46] <[R]> bullgard4_: none... its the kernel
[05:46] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: can you do Alt + F1 while seeing the wallpaper?
[05:46] <brent> R: how do I print whats currently being sent to it as if it were a file
[05:46] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 let me check, brb
[05:46] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: that should usually show a menu
[05:46] <[R]> brent: cat
[05:46] <brent> cat /dev/input/js0?
[05:46] <bullgard4_> [R] Ah! Thank you very much for your help.
[05:47] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, Here were the instructions I was given: http://pastebin.com/KBzwTU2t
[05:47] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: thanks :D
[05:47] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: btw - that's not the best place to put it :P
[05:47] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, you mean the directory in the instructions?
[05:47] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: ~/.mozilla/plugins/ :)
[05:48] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: the directory
[05:48] <nimbiotics> LinuxFetus, thanks again, your tips worked
[05:48] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 didnt know that.. that might help.. I rebooted to see what would happen and nothing at all did.. so I am gonna reinstall and try alt f1.. will return with an update in a bit..ty for the help!
? this is what i got when i typed in what you told me to (hmorel@hmorel-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:48] <hmorel> [sudo] password for hmorel:
[05:48] <hmorel> Reading package lists... Done
[05:48] <hmorel> Building dependency tree
[05:48] <hmorel> Reading state information... Done
[05:48] <hmorel> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[05:48] <hmorel>   linux-headers-2.6.31-14 linux-headers-2.6.31-14-generic
[05:48] <FloodBot1> hmorel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:48] <LinuxFetus> nimbiotics, no problem :)
[05:48] <s14shyam> hey guys
[05:48] <s14shyam> this is my first day in linux
[05:48] <Guest34273> no terminal como eu faço para atualizar a distro ?
[05:48] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: why are you going to reinstall?
[05:48] <linuxrunner> I am trying to switch to openDNS, but when I enter the addresses, the apply button won't activate?  Can I get an assist?
[05:48] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Don't paste long output like this.. go to pastebin.com and paste it and send the URL.
[05:48] <brent> Thanks R :)
[05:49] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: thanks much :D - they do seem to have released the newer version here too - http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[05:49] <zetheroo1> how do you get the touchpad double-click feature work where you can double-click and drag a window or pull a scrollbar?
[05:49] <nimbiotics> ow do i 1) delete an entry from GRUB and 2) have GRUB boot immediately to ubuntu? TIA!
[05:49] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, Would you recommend using that link instead?
[05:49] <s14shyam> can somebody help me with compiling software from source. i have the tarball of firefox 4 beta. please help
[05:49] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 after I took the disk out and rebooted it would pass the post line of boot from cd for some reason.. b4 it would reload to the wallpaper, but not this time
[05:49] <Skandranon> would = would not that is
[05:49] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, Also, the directory you gave would be user specific, since ~ == /home/[user]/
http://paste.ubuntu.com/495702/ is this correct?
[05:50] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: let me try it first - if it works for me - then it'll work for anyone
[05:50] <bullgard4_> [R] When I cold-started my laptop computer this morning I obtained the message: "[12.787603] fb: conflicting fb hw usage inteldrmfb vs VESA VGA - removing gen." Is my laptop computer configured all right?
[05:50] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: you should not boot with the disk in the drive
[05:50] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: ya, then you don't toss random files on the file system though
[05:50] <[R]> bullgard4_: what did you change
[05:50] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 that is what happened after I took the disk out and rebooted.. stuck on post
[05:50] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, Ahhh, true.  I guess if other people use it and you're not too sure about it...
[05:50] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, ctrl + shift + c is copy in there and ctrl + shift + v is paste.
[05:51] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: are you sure then that you installed Ubuntu?
[05:51] <linuxrunner> I am trying to switch to openDNS, but when I enter the addresses, the apply button won't activate?  Can I get an assist?
[05:51] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: or were you running the Live session?
[05:51] <bullgard4_> [R]: I upgraded to Maverick Beta.
[05:51] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Do you have any other package managers open right now?
[05:51] <xbonesx> need help installing nvidia drivers from repository.
[05:51] <hmorel> no
[05:51] <[R]> bullgard4_: upgrades are evil... and betas are evil
[05:51] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, You can't update software but from one package manager/terminal at a time.
[05:52] <brent> So my laptops battery no longer holds a charge. How bad is it for the computer when it's suddenly shut down (for hardware and the OS)?
[05:52] <AegNuddel> How do I upgrade to maverick?  I know it is still in beta
[05:52] <MTecknology> [R]: I've been on 10.10 for ~3mo now :P
[05:52] <[R]> brent: hardware doesn care... filesystem its bad when its not shutdown cleanly
[05:52] <etrnl> So I have a script that relies on gdm being started already, what runlevel would I want to start it up in?
[05:52] <[R]> MTecknology: wow... do you want a medal?
[05:52] <s14shyam> @xbonesx : do you see a green colored icon in the top left area of your screen
[05:52] <xbonesx> I goto /system/administation/ hardware drivers/ and it has an option to install recommended driver for my card, but it just hangs and doesnt install
[05:52] <LinuxFetus> hmorel, Well if you're sure, and you trust ubuntu forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-157896.html) then try "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock" then the command I gave you.
[05:52] <MTecknology> AegNuddel: do-release-upgrade -d
[05:52] <AegNuddel> thanks
[05:53] <xbonesx> s14shyam: no
[05:53] <etrnl> Currently it doesn't seem like it's being run at the right time
[05:53] <nimbiotics> where is GRUB.CFG LOCATED?
[05:53] <LinuxFetus> AegNuddel, 10.10 gave me some graphics errors.  Try running it live first.
[05:53] <LinuxFetus> AegNuddel, If you can.
[05:53] <s14shyam> @xbonesx : u sure your internet connection is fine ?
[05:53] <etrnl> All it does is invert the x axis of my touchscreen
[05:53] <AegNuddel> ok
[05:53] <xbonesx> yep
[05:53] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 no I dont belive so.. I had just finashed the install (for the 7th time today) wallpaper loads nothing else... although this time the install screen is telling me that there is a 10.04 installed... but it will not load.. might have gotten a bios setting changed.. gonna check that real quick make sure the disk is set to second boot device
[05:53] <AegNuddel> I will not put it on yet then
[05:53] <LinuxFetus> AegNuddel, There's a reason it's still beta...
[05:53] <bullgard4_> [R]: Yes. But I would like to talk about a Maverick feature in the local Ubuntu computer club at the Ubuntu Maverick release party next month. So I need to prepare myself with the new features.
[05:53] <[R]> nimbiotics: /boot/grub
[05:53] <[R]> bullgard4_: so file a bug report
[05:53] <AegNuddel> last beta worked out fine lol
[05:54] <LinuxFetus> AegNuddel, Windows + D is now minimize, though, that makes me happy lol
[05:54] <AegNuddel> nice
[05:54] <nimbiotics> [R]: thanks
[05:54] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: how many hdd's in that machine? Desktop ... laptop?
[05:54] <brent> R: So far I've only had corrupted files from it once... nothing I couldnt fix... I just don't want to mess up my HD or something because I'm too cheep to buy a new battery
[05:54] <LinuxFetus> AegNuddel, Well go ahead if you want (not being sarcastic), but I think it's better safe than sorry.
[05:54] <s14shyam> @xbonesx : this happens even if youre just surfing. try to stop all other netork activity and then install
[05:54] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: are you dual booting or is the whole drive being used for Ubuntu alone?
[05:54] <LinuxFetus> AegNuddel, My philosophy for stuff is if it isn't broke, don' fix it.
[05:54] <junior_> #ubuntu-br
[05:54] <[R]> brent: well your hardware will be fine... but your filesytem CAN get corrupted
[05:54] <AegNuddel> good point
[05:54] <AegNuddel> I will wait
[05:55] <thune3> s14shyam: you could look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo , but I'd probably recommend getting a daily of firefox-4.0 from the daily-build ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa , being careful not to update other software and disabling it after you are done installing.
[05:55] <xbonesx> s14shyam: i also have this file that i can run but when i do it says something about stop x server
[05:55] <brent> [R]: what's worst case with filesystem corruption?
[05:55] <[R]> brent: you loose everyhting
[05:55] <xbonesx> "NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.09-pkg2.run"
[05:55] <brent>  well I can always go in with a live cd and grab the files...
[05:55] <[R]> brent: grab the files?
[05:56] <lludw> xbonesx: in a terminal window type uname -r and tell me what version your kernel is
[05:56] <isadora> hey all: question. how do i set file permission rules in /sys/class/ for after reboot
[05:56] <image> hi. does anyone know of a program that can do direct-to-dvd imaging of an entire drive?
[05:56] <Jerk_> I downloaded WUBI, which then installed Ubuntu on my desktop. so now I have a dual-boot system, with WinXP and Ubuntu. however, whenever I boot up Ubuntu, my pc reboots automatically after some time.
[05:56] <s14shyam> thune3: thanks. ill check them out
[05:56] <brent> [R]: boot with a live CD, plug in a usb drive, and transfer any files I need, to the usb drive, then reinstall the OS
[05:57] <Jerk_> so, I just wanna know, what is going on? can you help?
[05:57] <xbonesx> lludw: 2.6.28-19-generic
[05:57] <[R]> brent: what files are you going to transfer? the ones off the corrupted filesystme that won't mount?
[05:57] <rames2> image: command line would be "dd" but it is usually unlikely that  it would all fit on one dvd
[05:57] <bullgard4_> [R]: Yes, I was going to do that. My problem is that I need to know the appropriate DEB program package for fb. Is it »linux-image-2.6.32-24-generic«?
[05:57] <LinuxFetus> Jerk_, Wait a bit for reposting a question, (or "bumping" it) if someone knows the answer, they'll answer
[05:57] <[R]> bullgard4_: its the kernel
[05:57] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: both work great :D
[05:57] <[R]> bullgard4_: whatever package that is
[05:57] <trelayne> does anyone know what beam.smp is?
[05:58] <image> rames2: dd would write to dvd?
[05:58] <AegNuddel> bed
[05:58] <bullgard4_> [R]: Thank you.
[05:58] <Jerk> LinuxFeuts
[05:58] <lludw> xbonesx: you want to update the kernel before you attempt to install the nvidia driver
[05:58] <Jerk> okay
[05:58] <trelayne> it seems to run every so often and take up like 98% CPU
[05:58] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: maybe... not able to click anything in this game...
[05:58] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, Awesome!  I don't really use flash, except the occasional YouTube video; I think flash ads are annoying :P
[05:58] <xbonesx> i already did
[05:58] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, On the one I gave you :/
[05:58] <xbonesx> lludw: i already did last night
[05:58] <brent> [R]: how corrupted are we talking? wost case I can imagine, you completely trash all the boot code, so the files themselves should be intact unless you somehow managed to trash the HD itself...
[05:58] <[R]> brent: corruepted to the point that you can't mount it
[05:59] <[R]> pretty sure i just said that
[05:59] <xbonesx> lludw: im running 9.04, havent upgraded
[05:59] <[R]> brent: what is "the boot code"
[05:59] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: must have just been the one thing - there's so many incompatibilities between flash versions..
[05:59] <xbonesx> lludw: but i installed all the updates for it tho
[05:59] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, if it's the one I'm using, send me the URL and I'll forward it to the dude who gave it to me.
[05:59] <brent> [R]: Do you know how a computer goes from BIOS to functional OS?
[05:59] <lludw> xbonesx: ok
[05:59] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: I'm trying to one I grabbed - he'll be interested in the link anyway - http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[05:59]  * [R] just shakes his head
[05:59] <s14shyam> xbonesx: take a look at the article here : http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=79966. It should give you a clear idea of instaklling from .run files
[05:59] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 1 drive connected.. disconnect the other.. whole drive being used for ubuntu... rebooted without the disk twice more.. once with cd then hd boot order once with hdd first... its sitting on a blank line, passed post, verifiys the drive, and pci devices, verifying DMI pool data (w/e that means) and stops on a blank line... when the cd was set to boot first, it stoped here with one more
[05:59] <Skandranon> line of boot from cd...   if I put the cd in it will boot it.
[05:59]  * [R] wonders why people argue with him
[06:00] <ngephart> Hello everyone. I'm trying to install 10.04 on a desktop machine, but when Ubiquity needs me to tell it how to partition disks, I get a screen that says "Prepare Partitions" at the top but no drives or partitions listed. Any ideas?
[06:00] <s14shyam> xbonesx: but do it onle if the beforementioned way doesnt work
[06:00] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, I'm sure he's aware of that lol.  His job is flash.  What's the game url?
[06:00] <lludw> xbonesx: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.09-pkg2.run requires you to change run levels before it will install
[06:00] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: oh!
[06:00] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: hmmm ... this sounds like something that has been happening here too
[06:00] <LinuxFetus> ngephart, You mean ubuntu?
[06:00] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: http://armorgames.com/play/6898/ninjas-vs-mafia-deluxe
[06:01] <bullgard4_> Synaptic: "XMLStarlet is a set of command line utilities (tools) which can be used to transform, query, validate, and edit XML documents and files using {a} simple set of shell commands in {a} similar way it is done for plain text files using {the} UNIX commands grep, sed, awk, diff, patch, join, etc." How can I use xmlstarlet to search in the directory ~/abc and its subdirectories for the...
[06:01] <bullgard4_> ...string "abc"?
[06:01] <MTecknology> bazhang: spiffy site- thanks
[06:01] <Skandranon> zetheroo1  where is here?
[06:01] <brent> [R]: I'm not arguing with you :P I'm just trying to plan for the worst. I apologize if you think I was trying to.
[06:01] <ngephart> LinuxFetus: I do mean Ubuntu, but I'm referring to Ubiquity, the installer.
[06:01] <[R]> you asked what the worst was and i told you it
[06:01] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: I have two desktops running Lucid and both from time to time will not go into the GRUB menu or boot into Linux (for the one which is not dual booting)
[06:01] <nimbiotics> how can i make GRUB not stop or last the least possible at startup?? TIA!
[06:01] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 I might add that 10.04 was running on this same machine with the same hardware just before the reinstall..
[06:01] <Guest34273> comando para atualizar a distro no ubuntu 10.04
[06:01] <Qwert> I installed bittorrent-gui package from synaptic but unable to open it. How can i open it?
[06:02] <xbonesx> lludw: how do you change run levels?
[06:02] <[R]> Qwert: what do you mean "unable to open it"
[06:02] <lludw> xbonesx: most other linux system use an xorg file but ubuntu went to an old unix system called an rc file.
[06:02] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: have you tried shutting the system off altogether and disconnecting the power, pressing the power button for 10 secs to clear the circuts and then plug in and power back on?
[06:02] <Wiesshund> Qwert its under the internet menu in applications
[06:02] <Qwert> [R]: Unable to see the interface - is what it would mean
[06:02] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 nope but I am about to
[06:02] <brent> [R]: I know. I'm just not sure of how the filesystem functions, as a whole.
[06:02] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: why did you reinstall? :)
[06:02] <LinuxFetus> ngephart, I'm not familiar with Ubiquity.
[06:02] <xangua> !upgrade | Guest34273
[06:02] <xbonesx> lludw: rc.local?
[06:03] <[R]> brent: that sucks
[06:03] <[R]> Qwert: open your eyes?
[06:03] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Yeah, it usually goes there but its not present there
[06:03] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 I updated the ati drivers and then everything got all screwy... being a noob at ubuntu i decided a reinstall would be must easyer than just fixing that.. boy was i wrong :p
[06:03] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: ouch
[06:04] <Qwert> [R]: Huh?
[06:04] <xbonesx> lludw: brb restarting
[06:04] <[R]> Qwert: you said you can't see it
[06:04] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: in the future try sticking with Nvidia when using Linux ;) ... it just seems to be a smoother ride overall
[06:04] <Qwert> [R]: The interface doesn't open. Got it now!
[06:04] <s14shyam> xbonesx: this article has complete explanations
[06:04] <[R]> Qwert: how are you trying to start it?
[06:05] <Wiesshund> i dunno, ive no problems with ati under linux
[06:05] <ngephart> LinuxFetus: Okay. Well, the Ubuntu installer keeps giving me trouble. It's not giving me any errors if I try to run it from the command line, so I don't know what's up.
[06:05] <gryllida> The 'lshw-gtk' program lists my hardware, but USBs are seen as 'controllers', it doesn't specify the device types. Is there a way to list all mice, keyboard, scanners, printers, disks, etc. that are installed on the system?
[06:05] <s14shyam> guys please suggest a good alternative to rhythmbox thats not a kde app
[06:05] <Athyria> This may seem like a really strange question, but how would one go about recovering grub after installing ubuntu? I have three ubuntu installs and one of them ate the grub and I don't even know which.
[06:06] <gryllida> !grub
[06:06] <Athyria> vlc works well for music.
[06:06] <LinuxFetus> ngephart, Can you run Ubuntu live first?
[06:06] <Qwert> [R]: It usually available as option under internet from applications. But it wasn't there. Secondly, i tried running bittorrent-gui from console. Still no interface
[06:06] <isadora> really no help on getting a /dev/* to change /sys/class/dev/ file permissions at boot up?
[06:06] <Wiesshund> gryllida lsusb
[06:06] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, So you can't click on stats or inventory or anything?
[06:06] <ngephart> LinuxFetus: Yeah, I quit the installer and it dumped me in the Live CD. Everything seems to work just fine except that.
[06:06] <[R]> Qwert: so its not that the interface doesn't open... you just dont know hwo to start it
[06:06] <[R]> Qwert: which is completely differnet
[06:07] <Athyria> I checked the grub recovery howtos; they require knowing which ubuntu ate it.
[06:07] <Qwert> [R]: Oh! Then how should I be opening it?
[06:07] <LinuxFetus> Okay, so if you're running live, what happens when you go System > Administration > Gparted?
[06:07] <LinuxFetus> Does anything show up?
[06:07] <[R]> Qwert: you can use dpkg to list the files the pacakge installed and figure out what the name of it is
[06:08] <gryllida> E: Couldn't find package lsusb
[06:08] <Qwert> [R]: Name of what?
[06:08] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 unpluged, 10 sec power button, turned back on.. stuck in same spot. Its my girls pc, no control over what she has in it. I just get to make it work :) So far in the past 3 days I made it go from fine to annoying to not working at all. Shes not happy, neither am I. Spent hows searching online and trying anything I could. Gotten no further in the past 2 days.
[06:08] <gryllida> Wiesshund ^^
[06:08] <[R]> Qwert: the program
[06:08] <Wiesshund> Qwert what client is it? transmission?
[06:08] <ngephart> LinuxFetus: It runs, it shows me partitions. I just resized an ext4 partition and created a new one for Ubuntu -- everything worked perfectly. It's the installer that seems to be on the fritz...
[06:08] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: during installation was it connected to the Ethernet?
[06:08] <magicLemon> =D
[06:09] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 yes
[06:09] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: nope
[06:09] <Wiesshund> gryllida if you type lsusb in terminal it says its not there?
[06:09] <LinuxFetus> ngephart, Well if gparted is showing it, then I don't know what's up.
[06:09] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: maybe try with it disconnected
[06:09] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, I can.. maybe you should use the one I sent :P
[06:09] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 worth a shot, ty for your help either way :)
[06:09] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: maybe... I'm recompiling a kernel now - I'll try after that
[06:09] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: and just skip any online stuff it wants to do
[06:09] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Well i just want to have bittorrent gui, w/o installing transmission/ktorrent/azerus
[06:09] <LinuxFetus> Okay.
[06:10] <MTecknology> LinuxFetus: Hugs you you! :)
[06:10] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: did you update the drivers from the ATI website or from the System Updates?
[06:10] <[R]> Qwert: so you want bittorrent... but you dont want to install bittorrent... right
[06:10] <LinuxFetus> MTecknology, lol
[06:10] <Qwert> !info bittorrent-gui
[06:10] <Wiesshund> Qwert, you will have to see what the name of the gui you installed is then.
[06:10] <Qwert> !info bittorrent
[06:10] <datacrusher> is it possible on a ubuntu server, text mode installation the resolution of the text mode passes a little more horizontally in a regular lcd monitor?
[06:11] <datacrusher> i mean, theres n x server, gnome, kde... is there something as this "text mode resolution"?
[06:11] <LinuxFetus> Hmm I'll ask one more time --- to #ubuntu: Can anyone tell me 1) if there'd be any reason why my 64-bit processor with 64-bit Ubuntu 10.04 run live (i.e. I haven't configured preloading or anything) is only recognizing 3397 MB of ram instead of 4096 when my bios sees 4096?
[06:11] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 ati website.. was trying to fix a problem of any and all media players randomly closing durning playback.. instead the update caused the screen to jerk when scrolling and make it so that nothing could be put into fullscreen
[06:11] <Qwert> Wiesshund: I have installed bittorrent-gui
[06:11] <encircle> hello,
[06:11] <[R]> datacrusher: framebuffer...
[06:11] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: was this with desktop effects running?
[06:11] <datacrusher> LinuxFetus, maybe because youre using an onboard vga
[06:12] <datacrusher> [R], how do i change this?
[06:12] <Wiesshund> Qwert yes but is that the name of the executable?
[06:12] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, What is that and can I fix that?  I have a PAE-capable processor.
[06:12] <[R]> datacrusher: what kind of video card do you have?
[06:12] <Qwert> Wiesshund: I am not sure
[06:12] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: I hate it when ppl tell me that I should just switch off desktop effects ... ha
[06:12] <LinuxFetus> [R], was that to me?
[06:12] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: whats your ATI card?
[06:12] <[R]> LinuxFetus: huh?
[06:12] <LinuxFetus> [R], OH wait nevermind...
[06:13] <gryllida> Wiesshund, I installed lsusb, and it lists the USB devices when I run 'lsusb'. Is there also a full hardware list program (not USB only)?
[06:13] <LinuxFetus> [R], If I tried to explain it, it would only further my apparent stupidity and it's irrelevant lol
[06:13] <magicLemon> hello
[06:13] <Qwert> Wiesshund: How can I run the gui?
[06:13] <datacrusher> LinuxFetus, im talking about the gpu interface. maybe if you dont have a vga at all, the memory may be dedicated to that hardware
[06:13] <Wiesshund> gryllida lspci will list the others
[06:13] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 if they are on by default prolly... donno what setting she changed but guessing not that... the card is a ati 3650hd I think, not 100% but its definitly ati 36XX hd something
[06:14] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, I have an ATI FireGL V5200 256 MB.  I don't know if it's onboard or not.
[06:14] <datacrusher> [R], just a sec, ill ask here.. im helping a ubuntu fella in another language channel
[06:14] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, I think it's dedicated, though.
[06:15] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: if the card/drivers can support desktop effects then they are automatically enabled
[06:15] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Is the gui package used to give interface to clients?
[06:15] <Wiesshund> Qwert i think you just click a torrent link?
[06:15] <datacrusher> LinuxFetus, well... take a look at your bios
[06:15] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, notebook check says it's not shared http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-FireGL-V5200.2164.0.html
[06:15] <Qwert> Wiesshund: I'll see
[06:15] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, What should I look for in my BIOS?  It says 4096 MB of memory under system information.
[06:15] <nimbiotics> hi ya'll. How do i go about making GRUB NOT stop start ubuntu immediately?
[06:16] <Athyria> Nimbiotics - Set the timer to -1.
[06:16] <magicLemon> everyone know what i need do to my sockets in java using netbeans ide work? i have try to execute this with a simple user, but it's not work... in the root mode it's works
[06:16] <magicLemon> =D
[06:16] <Athyria> In some grub configuration thing.
[06:16] <Athyria> Somewhere. *shifty eyes*
[06:17] <Wiesshund> Qwert try /usr/bin/btdownloadgui.bittorrent
[06:17] <LinuxFetus> nimbiotics, start stop ubuntu immediately?  Do you mean it doesn't give you a chance to select another partition to boot from?
[06:18] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Yes that is what it suggests
[06:18] <nimbiotics> LinuxFetus: rite. i'd like it to start ubuntu immediately. ive read its possible but all documentation i find is complicated for me
[06:18] <datacrusher> LinuxFetus, some firegl permits on bios the user to reserve more memory than its dedicated on the gpu
[06:18] <Wiesshund> nimbiatics you can edit grubs config and add a time delay
[06:18] <datacrusher> search for something like that
[06:18] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: is ti a card or onboard?
[06:18] <Athyria> I want to turn my server install into a workable desktop. Is there any way to do this without a display manager?
[06:19] <nimbiotics> Athyria i cant find 'timer', closest is 'timeout'
[06:19] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, I don't think my BIOS has that... Is it like a number you'd be able to specify?  If so, I'm pretty sure I can't do that.
[06:19] <chelz> Athyria: gnome-desktop metapackage
[06:19] <Athyria> That'd be it.
[06:19] <Wiesshund> Athyria gnome-desktop package
[06:19] <Qwert> Wiesshund: The reason why i went for that is that Ktorrent use to take up 50% of memory
[06:19] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, But is there a way to see how much ram your GPU is using, then, like free-graphics or something?
[06:19] <Athyria> That's... what I'm trying to avoid.
[06:19] <abhijit> hi
[06:19] <abhijit> gm
[06:19] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 card.. just restarted the install with no internet connected, and wiping the drive again. hope this works running out of time b4 I have to leave to go pick her up, was hoping to make it work b4 then hehe
[06:19] <chelz> Athyria: er actually ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[06:19] <gryllida> Wiesshund: Oh, I see, 'lsusb' and 'lspci' seem to list all hardware. Is there an X frontend for them?
[06:20] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: well it should be done in 20 min or less
[06:20] <Wiesshund> Qwert dunno, i use transmission, it works fine for what little i use it
[06:20] <isadora> no one who know udev rules here?
[06:20] <chelz> Athyria: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:20] <LinuxFetus> Oh and here's my second question lol:  Someone suggested that the reason my 64 bit Ubuntu 10.04 isn't seeing my full 4 GB of RAM is because my chipset could be 32-bit even though my processor is 64-bit... so can anyone tell me how to find out if my chipset is 32-bit?  thanks.
[06:20] <gryllida> isadora, #ubuntu-dev ?
[06:20] <Wiesshund> gryllida not that i know of, but that doesnt mean much
[06:20] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: are you letting Ubuntu use the hard drive automatically?
[06:20] <Athyria> No gdm, no kdm, just good old terminal go to shiny graphical thing that I can kill at any time and go back to terminal without some annoying gdm or kdm mucking everything up. How?!
[06:20] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Yeah. Thanks
[06:20] <gryllida> Anyone: 'lsusb' and 'lspci' seem to list all hardware. Is there an X frontend for them?
[06:20] <datacrusher> LinuxFetus, go to synaptic and install hardinfo
[06:20] <datacrusher> it should give you more infos
[06:21] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 yea its pretty fast, dont think it will take that long even... I do have twon monitors connected, dont think that might be cause a problem do you? (same as last time i installed and it worked) and yes I am letting it use it auto
[06:21] <chelz> Athyria: install it all, then disable gdm. i'm pretty sure gnome's packages are set to depend on gdm, so gdm would need to be installed
[06:21] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: only have one connected
[06:21] <chelz> Athyria: i don't know for sure though, that'd be something to look into
[06:21] <Wiesshund> nimbiotics edit /etc/default/grub change the time out values, save, then run update-grub
[06:21] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: keep it as simple as you can upon installation
[06:22] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 well I alrdy started it... pull one mid install or power down and restart with only one?
[06:22] <Athyria> GDM does not like being disabled. Not one bit. o_O
[06:22] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: just detach the secondary one
[06:22] <Skandranon> k
[06:22] <Jesdisciple> I wouldn't like being disabled either...
[06:22] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: where did you get the ATI driver from?
[06:22] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: do you have the link?
[06:22] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, What am I looking for?  PCI Devices?
[06:23] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 no, I found it on her pc and that was before I wiped the drive.. was ati site.. i will see if i can find it again
[06:23] <Athyria> How do you apply package changes with a gui package program thingy?
[06:23] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: ok ... so support.amd.com ... probably
[06:24] <Jesdisciple> Synaptic?
[06:24] <Jesdisciple> just hit the Apply button
[06:24] <Skandranon> zeth http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[06:24] <Wiesshund> Athyria Synaptic package manager?
[06:24] <Athyria> No... it's KDE. Everything's all scary.
[06:24] <Jesdisciple> lol
[06:25] <Wiesshund> synaptic comes in gnome only?
[06:25] <Jesdisciple> that should be Kpackage then, I think
[06:25] <Wiesshund> yea kbuntu has synaptic
[06:25] <Jesdisciple> yes, Synaptic is a GNOME app
[06:25] <Jesdisciple> or at least I thot...
[06:25] <chelz> you can run gnome and kde stuff on either gnome or kde
[06:25] <Athyria> So what does xfce use?
[06:25] <chelz> i just use synaptic
[06:25] <Qwert> abhijit: Namaste
[06:25] <chelz> and aptitude
[06:26] <datacrusher> LinuxFetus, most likely all stuff. you said youre not familiar with the hardware you got there
[06:26] <abhijit> Qwert, hi
[06:26] <Athyria> I'm trying to install synaptic. I can't figure out how.
[06:26] <chelz> Athyria: call up a terminal and use apt-get
[06:26] <qwebirc74580> how to download flash videos from youtube and metacafe and otheres..
[06:26] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, When I go to Devices > Resources, I can see the memory addresses for things.
[06:26] <Wiesshund> Athyria apt-get
[06:26] <bullgard4_> Synaptic: "XMLStarlet is a set of command line utilities (tools) which can be used to transform, query, validate, and edit XML documents and files using {a} simple set of shell commands in {a} similar way it is done for plain text files using {the} UNIX commands grep, sed, awk, diff, patch, join, etc." How can I use xmlstarlet to search in the directory ~/abc and its subdirectories for the...
[06:26] <bullgard4_> ...string "abc"?
[06:26] <Athyria> I can't find the terminal, either...
[06:26] <isadora> not really, gryllida: just need someone who knows udev rules in lucid
[06:27] <chelz> bullgard4_: grep -lr abc directory/
[06:27] <Jesdisciple> Athyria
[06:27] <Wiesshund> Athyria term should be in your programs menu
[06:27] <abhijit> qwebirc74580, wget, xvideothief, or just play them in browser and after they fully played you can copy from your /tmp
[06:27] <Jesdisciple> I just checked
[06:27] <nill> dig  +short  irc.tor.freenode.net  cname
[06:27] <Jesdisciple> and there is a #kubuntu channel =D
[06:27] <abhijit> uralponkhi, ^^^^
[06:27] <Athyria> Wait... this menu seems to have other submenus, but clicking on them doesn't do anything. Does kubuntu have minimum system requirements or something?
[06:27] <chelz> Athyria: ctrl+alt+t might work. alt+f2 almost always works. also yeah #kubuntu
[06:28] <abhijit> !nick | uralponkhi
[06:28] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: ok that's what I found too
[06:28] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, Here's the output: http://pastebin.com/8t5JwnaV
[06:28] <nill> hi
[06:28] <chelz> !hi | nill
[06:28] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: and I am guessing you went through the installation instructions
[06:28] <Wiesshund> Athyria i thin in kde you dont click them you just point and wait a sec
[06:28] <nill> free the fish
[06:29] <Athyria> ...okay, it crashed. It's not supposed to do that, is it?
[06:29] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 hrm... first time seeing this: Instalation failed. The installer encountered a error coping files to the hard disk.   [errno 5] Input/Output error
[06:29] <Wiesshund> Athyria what crashed?
[06:29] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: oh ...
[06:29] <chelz> Athyria: crashed how?
[06:29] <Athyria> KDE. o_O
[06:29] <uLinux> !mint
[06:29] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 wasnt that long after pulling the second monitor cable mid install... and I havent seen it b4
[06:29] <Athyria> Xorg, too.
[06:30] <chelz> Athyria: you might want to start with standard Ubuntu Desktop with Gnome so you can learn some basics like terminal commands before getting into all you're getting ino
[06:30] <martian> Is there a way to attach to the stdio of a process which is not running through screen? (X-less server)
[06:30] <Jesdisciple> 0_0 s/he's a newbie and doing this?
[06:30] <Athyria> I tried that. It wouldn't install. It kept failing partway through copying. Any idea why? Wasn'T the disk.
[06:30] <Wiesshund> Athyria ctrl alt f1 2 etc will give you a console prompt by the way, if you cant get to terminal in kde
[06:30] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/errno-5-input-output-error-639355/
[06:31] <chelz> martian: that's process-specific, usually people just relaunch whatever with the pipes they want. btw there's nohup and dtach in place of screen
[06:31] <datacrusher> LinuxFetus, very nice. but I have to go now. try this paste in #hardware, most people there would know by memory if your processor is 32 or 64, memory, vga and stuff
[06:31] <Athyria> The ttyv thingies don't render for some reason.
[06:31] <chelz> Athyria: install pastebinit and pastebin the output you get
[06:31] <LinuxFetus> *##hardware lol
[06:31] <LinuxFetus> datacrusher, I think #hardware is invite-only
[06:31] <chelz> !pastebinit | Athyria
[06:31] <datacrusher> LinuxFetus, ##hardware
[06:32] <martian> chelz: I'll look into those. It's just a php script running via the commandline...looong process though, and I forgot to screen it :-/
[06:32] <EdMoney> how long would it typically take for ubuntu 10.04 to boot up when using "Try Ubuntu without installing" on a 2 Ghz machine with 4 GB of RAM? More than an hour??
[06:32] <Wiesshund> EdMoney not unless you got a really slow cd drive
[06:32] <chelz> martian: screen and similar tools are good for if your ssh connection dies. you might also have the php script itself write to a file instead of stdout optionally
[06:33] <Wiesshund> EdMoney like 1X proprietary drive slow
[06:33] <davefromcamp> if I want to start mpd when my computer starts how do I do this?
[06:33] <Athyria> Uuuurg.
[06:33] <vasez> Is there a pacage that will check for duplicate mp3s?
[06:33] <Jesdisciple> sweet, I didn't know about the Ctrl+Alt+Fx thingy... glad I found F tho lol
[06:33] <Jesdisciple> F7*
[06:33] <martian> chelz: oh yeah, this is really a matter of I forgot to run the script in a better way and don't want to have to bother driving back to work over the weekend :)
[06:33] <Skandranon> zetheroo1 based on that post I am going to try with one stick on memory (they passed mem test but what the heck) and if that doesnt work I will try with a third new cd (this one passed the check) burned slower and one stick.. but unfortinily I cannt do that now... got to get moving and leave the house... thank you so much for all your help!!
[06:34] <bullgard4_> chelz: The directories which I would like to search, contain html files. I tried grep before I posted here. It produced clobbered output where I could not detect the wanted information. I cannot see how the -l switch would change the situation.
[06:34] <chelz> martian: ah. well i have heard of some discussion out there about it. google for attaching to an existing tty
[06:36] <chelz> bullgard4_: well it'll give you a list of what files contain that string, so you can then filter just through the filename list rather than all the matches grep would output otherwise
[06:36] <zetheroo1> Skandranon: good luck!
[06:36] <Athyria> Chelz, output from what? KDM keeps crashing and the virtual terminals won't display. At least, I assume that's what's happening because it's what happened last time...
[06:37] <Wiesshund> Athyria you started out with text only server right?
[06:37] <chelz> Athyria: you said gnome wouldn't install, i mean from when you try something like   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktiop
[06:38] <Athyria> No, that was a different computer. I have four computers, all of which don't work.. in different ways.
[06:38] <davefromcamp> my xmpc won't uninstall
[06:38] <davefromcamp> any thoughts?
[06:38] <chelz> Athyria: that really doesn't make it easy to help you if you switch between talking about a bunch of different problems
[06:38] <Wiesshund> Athyria yea i am confused now as well
[06:39] <Athyria> Sorry.
[06:39] <fedora_newb> has anyone gotten counter strike source to work on ubuntu on here? Appears as it has been done, but its really kinda laggy for me
[06:39] <Wiesshund> if you pick 1 pc at a time, we might be able to help ;)
[06:39] <magnetron> fedora_newb: there's great instructions on Wine's AppDB for getting good FPS in CS
[06:40] <Wiesshund> fedora_newb steam or retail?
[06:40] <fedora_newb> steam
[06:40] <fedora_newb> Wiesshund
[06:40] <Athyria> Okay, the kubuntu one - it wouldn  install ubuntu, and now kubuntu, which would install, is proving... problematic?
[06:40] <fedora_newb> magnetron, link?
[06:40] <magnetron> !appdb | fedora_newb
[06:40] <EdMoney> goddamn ubuntu, I did "Try Ubuntu without installing", as suggested here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes if you get the error "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error...", it's been nearly an hour, and now that i see the icon "Install Ubuntu 10.04 1 LTS", I double click on it and nothing happens. Why is this so damn slow
[06:40] <marginoferror> Does anyone have ideas on why I might be able to access a host on Windows but be unable to connect on Ubuntu, even though they're on the same network and can access all other websites equally?
[06:40] <Wiesshund> Athyria 1st question, how old is the PC and what version of ubuntu is on it?
[06:41] <magnetron> marginoferror: DNS issues.
[06:41] <Athyria> About ten years, and I'm not even sure at this point. o_O
[06:41] <marginoferror> I am trying to access plurk.com and on my Ubuntu clients I cannot connect reliably but on Windows I can.  I suspected DNS but they are resolving to the correct IPs - however, telnet plurk.com 80 works from Windows but does not connect from Ubuntu most of the time
[06:41] <Jesdisciple> System > About gives your version... in GNOME but I think in KDE as well
[06:42] <Athyria> 9.04, apparently. Odd, since that's the one I've had the most luck with out of any of them...
[06:42] <marginoferror> magnetron: are there any other possibilities?
[06:42] <Wiesshund> Athyria ok, well for starters a 10 year old PC probably wont run ubuntu 10.04 very well. You might want to run a different distro of ubuntu, or possibly puppy which is based on ubuntu but tailored to lower end hardware and old hardware
[06:42] <magnetron> marginoferror: not that i can think of now
[06:42] <marginoferror> Hmm
[06:42] <magnetron> marginoferror: it might also be temporary
[06:43] <Ologn> marginoferror: You want to narrow everything down
[06:43] <marginoferror> It is intermittent but a very persistent problem.  And it only affects Ubuntu, not Windows clients
[06:43] <Ologn> marginoferror: Do a "telnet IP 80" from Windows and Ubuntu
[06:43] <marginoferror> Ologn: From two out of three Ubuntu clients that fails (gets the IP address but stalls).  From Windows it works.
[06:43] <Ologn> marginoferror: Then you will know it has nothing to do with DNS
[06:44] <Wiesshund> Athyria you might also have a hardware issue on that machine since ubuntu install failed and kbuntu is puking on itself. niether is exactly normal for either distro
[06:44] <Ologn> marginoferror: Can you telnet to port 80 of other web sites from them, like www.google.com ?
[06:44] <marginoferror> Ologn: Yes from all clients
[06:44] <Athyria> Far as I can tell, kubuntu always does that. (At least around me; did it on the laptop too) The really weird thing is that it was working just fine before I made the stupid mistake of updating it and had to reinstall.
[06:45] <chelz> Ed_Money: you might try the alternate installer disc
[06:45] <Athyria> Is it a coincidence, then, that it happens now?
[06:45] <Ologn> marginoferror: Also do a traceroute and ping from the good one and the bad ones
[06:45] <bullgard4_> chelz: I followed your advice. It helped! Though it is a bit clumsy. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[06:45] <Qwert> Athriya: Whats the issue?
[06:45] <Wiesshund> If you did a clean reinstall, nothing you did prior would have any bearing on its operation
[06:45] <Jesdisciple> kubuntu always pukes
[06:45] <Athyria> Ubuntu won't install. o_O
[06:45] <Qwert> Athyria: Whats the issue?
[06:45] <Ologn> marginoferror: You want to narrow down every possibility
[06:45] <chelz> bullgard4_: good to hear. learning sed grep and awk is super useful. also a good stepping-stone to perl
[06:46] <Athyria> Well, I just tried to install it on top of what I had before. Bad idea?
[06:46] <Wiesshund> Athyria er yea bad idea probably
[06:46] <Jesdisciple> did you format before reinstalling?
[06:46] <Qwert> Athyria: You are trying to install ubuntu or kubuntu?
[06:46] <marginoferror> Ologn: From Windows, traceroute gets into a loop between two hosts midway.  But again Windows is working properly.  From the Ubuntu client that is working right now, traceroute completes in ten hops properly.  From the Ubuntu clients traceroute finishes in ten hops regardless of whether the clients can actually access the site or not.
[06:46] <Athyria> Formatting would defeat the purpose of installing it right on top.
[06:46] <Jesdisciple> =\
[06:47] <Qwert> Athyria: Format first, it usually does that
[06:47] <Athyria> I'm trying to install ubuntu. Kubuntu is horrifying.
[06:47] <bullgard4_> chelz: Ugh! You are burden a heavy load onto my back. :-)
[06:47] <Jesdisciple> OSs can't go on top of each other unless u have a virtual machine...
[06:47] <Wiesshund> Athyria its not generaly a good idea to "install it right on top" especially when the previous incarnation got messed up
[06:47] <Qwert> Athyria: Why you want to install it right on top?
[06:47] <Athyria> So for desktop versions it does need a reformat first? I never had any trouble doing this with servers...
[06:47] <Ologn> marginoferror: Does traceroute end somewhere out there on their network side or is it all stars (*s)?
[06:47] <chelz> bullgard4_: you don't have to do it all at once :P
[06:48] <Athyria> So it keeps all the user informations and histories and configuration files, of course.
[06:48] <Qwert> Athyria: Do you want to save data of previous installation?
[06:48] <marginoferror> Ologn: No stars, every host shows proper times and it ends at the correct destination IP
[06:48] <Jesdisciple> I am baffled about what you mean by right on top... afaik Ubuntu won't even allow that
[06:48] <Wiesshund> Athyria thats why you mount those things in separate partitions on servers
[06:48] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple it will, all linux will
[06:48] <Jesdisciple> unless u mean update?
[06:48] <Athyria> I mean downdate. o_O
[06:48] <Jesdisciple> lol
[06:49] <Jesdisciple> I might recall the Live CD option you';re referring to now...
[06:49] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple you you can reinstall, but tell it not to erase the system. which isnt a really great idea
[06:49] <Athyria> So was that why the server had no trouble?
[06:49] <Wiesshund> Athyria i cant answer that because ive not seen how the server was set up
[06:49] <Qwert> Athyria: Would you please address the user you are posting to?
[06:49] <Ologn> marginoferror: Also try "telnet www.plurk.com 443", that is a different port - ssl
[06:50] <marginoferror> Ologn: Again, works for the clients that work (windows and 1x Ubuntu), doesn't for the client that doesn't
[06:50] <Qwert> Athyria: Whats the issue exactly?
[06:51] <AnxiousNut> $wc is giving me false info, when uaing -w option for counting words, it tells me ther eis 15 words only, while in gedit tells 152(true)! How can i get it to tell the correct number of words?
[06:51] <marginoferror> Ologn: Thank you for your patience with all of this.  I am at wit's end ;;
[06:52] <magnetron> AnxiousNut: check if there is any alias for wc
[06:52] <Ologn> marginoferror: I get TTL exceeded when pinging www.plurk.com, which is a little unusual
[06:52] <Athyria> Qwert - ubuntu won't install.
[06:52] <AnxiousNut> magnetron, what do you mean? why alias?
[06:53] <Athyria> Which, on second though, has nothing to do with the not formatting because it didn't even get that far.
[06:53] <Qwert> Athyria: What are you trying to install? Desktop or server?
[06:53] <marginoferror> Ologn: Yes, that happens with both working and non-working clients.  Also, the TTL exceeded message is coming from a different IP than the plurk servers supposedly are on
[06:53] <Qwert> Athyria: Ok.. how are you installing it? Live CD?
[06:53] <okapi14> Hi all, I have a system that hangigng at "loading Hardware", no other error. How can I find the faulty hardware?
[06:54] <Athyria> Qwert - desktop... I'm used to the server which is all nice and friendly and doesn't do crazy crap, but sadly it doesn't work so well on desktops. *shifty eyes*
[06:54] <Wiesshund> Athyria as i said, that machine could be having some kind of hardware failure. it is old
[06:54] <Ologn> marginoferror: I'd also check if I had iptables or ipchains running on the bad machines...as processes or as a kernel module (lsmod)
[06:54] <Athyria> Wiesshund - so why would kubuntu install, then? Or are they really that different?
[06:54] <chelz> Athyria: alternate installer
[06:54] <marginoferror> Ologn: One of them is a fresh install (as in, today) and was working an hour ago.  I'll check but I don't expect they are running anything outside of what is on a fresh install
[06:55] <Qwert> Athyria: No they aren't so different
[06:55] <Qwert> Athyria: If you are using kubuntu, you can transform it to ubuntu
[06:55] <uLinux> how can I make backup of every software installed and its preferences?
[06:56] <uLinux> !backup
[06:56] <Wiesshund> Athyria different installers. 2 similar but non identical apps, wont crash in the same place and time. one might make it past install then puke.
[06:56] <marginoferror> Ologn: Nope, nothing like that running
[06:56] <uLinux> !sbackup
[06:56] <uLinux> !cloning
[06:56] <Athyria> Wait, konqueror was crashing it. Er... nevermind.
[06:57] <chelz> uLinux: google for: list all install packages with dpkg ubuntu
[06:57] <Qwert> Wiesshund: What is he trying to install? Desktop/server? Which OS is he on now?
[06:57] <lazyPower> Having an issue with the beta on updating grub-pc. the update just hangs apt. When i ps aux | grep dpkg it shows its running some kind of perl script update and never finishes.... as in i left it for a day and it never makes any progress. Not seeing the google answer if there is one readily available. Anybody have any ideas?
[06:57] <rww> !maverick
[06:57] <lazyPower> sorry about being vague, its 10.10 beta, x86.
[06:58] <Qwert> lazyPower: #ubuntu+1
[06:58] <Wiesshund> Qwert his 10 year old pc flaked out after an update. but now it crashes even trying to run ubuntu install. kbuntu installed but crashes out of the kdm. I think the hardware is having issues
[06:58] <okapi14> Hi all, I have a system that hangigng at "loading Hardware", no other error. How can I find the faulty hardware?
[06:59] <Ologn> marginoferror: mail for plurk.com seems to be down
[06:59] <Athyria> Wiesshund - it was konqueror crashing it. KDE seems to actually just be fine, aside from slowness. so nevermind on that computer.
[06:59] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Oh.. Did he try to do complete format of it?
[06:59] <marginoferror> Ologn: mail?
[06:59] <chelz> Athyria: you should boot into recovery mode and finish the update, if you haven't deleted yoru old system
[06:59] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Oh.. Did he try to do complete format of hd?
[06:59] <Ologn> marginoferror: I telnet to port 25 of each of its mail servers and it hangs...I'm just looking at their domain
[06:59] <Wiesshund> Qwert no
[06:59] <Athyria> chelz - Are you crazy? Updating's what got me into this mess int he first place!
[06:59] <chelz> Athyria: if you can't boot to recovery mode, boot to a livecd or alternate cd and chroot in, then finish the update
[06:59] <chelz> Athyria: well you're going to need to install those updates sooner or later, you might as well keep what you have if you can
[07:00] <marginoferror> Ologn: Lots of stuff is weird about their setup, they have really desperate and low-budget load balancing.  I just can't figure out the discrepancy between Windows and Ubuntu results in accessing them.
[07:00] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Before coming to hardware fault, we need to check other things as well :)
[07:00] <chelz> Athyria: btw a good way to keep from hectic upgrades is to stay on LTSs
[07:00] <chelz> sorta ot, but worth mentioning
[07:00] <xbonesx> when i try to click nvidia driver rev 180 from hardware drivers and click activate, i get a error messege, http://i54.tinypic.com/2cxdcgh.jpg
[07:00] <Qwert> Athyria: Have you tried doing format of your hard disk?
[07:00] <Athyria> chelz - what's lts?
[07:01] <Qwert> Athyria: Complete format?
[07:01] <Qwert> Athyria: Long term support
[07:01] <Wiesshund> Qwert when the live cd wont boot and run, there isnt alot else to check aside from a bad burn
[07:01] <Athyria> Qwert - I tried using a different hard disk, does that count?
[07:01] <chelz> !lts | Athyria
[07:02] <Qwert> Wiesshund: There are other installation method to comment on hardware.. like the dvd player may be faulty
[07:02] <h3oj> Good night, what's is the command for suspend the ubuntu in xterm?
[07:02] <Athyria> And is it a bad sign when the live cd boots into gmone and then the gnome panel crashes over and over again?
[07:02] <Qwert> Athyria: Good, even that gave errors?
[07:02] <chelz> Athyria: this would also be good
[07:02] <Wiesshund> Qwert that is hardware
[07:02] <chelz> !manual | Athyria
[07:02] <Qwert> Wiesshund: Yeah.. i am coming to it :)
[07:03] <Qwert> Athyria: Have you checked your cd player?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> ive often seen optical disk issues.  Seems either the media is getting really cheap and flakey these days, or the drives are getting cheaper and less reliable.. or both. :()
[07:03] <Ologn> marginoferror: yes, I'm perplexed
[07:03] <Athyria> Qwert - in what fashion do you mean?
[07:03] <Wiesshund> Dr_Willis both
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> I tend to generate a bootable USB flash and install from that. Seems Much more reliable. and faster
[07:03] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: Yes that is what
[07:03] <marginoferror> Ologn: I feel better now that I am not the only one.  Thank you =)
[07:04] <Qwert> Athyria: Have you tried usb install?
[07:04] <marginoferror> Ologn: do you know of any other places I might ask for help?  Maybe a specialized linux networking channel or something?
[07:04] <Wiesshund> Dr_Willis i just unetbootin the iso and bypass the whole cd burn usb thing
[07:04] <Athyria> Qwert - the bios doesn't  support that. O_o
[07:04] <uLinux> chelz: tks
[07:05] <Wiesshund> Qwert the PC is 10 years old
[07:05] <Qwert> Athyria: OH
[07:05] <Qwert> Athyria: Yeah.. surmised it no
[07:05] <Qwert> Athyria: Yeah.. surmised it now
[07:05] <h3oj> What's is the command for suspend the ubuntu in xterm? thx =p
[07:05] <xbonesx> when i try to click nvidia driver rev 180 from hardware drivers and click activate, i get a error messege, http://i54.tinypic.com/2cxdcgh.jpg
[07:06] <Qwert> Athyria: Umm.. Are you sure that the disk reader is not faulty?
[07:06] <Athyria> Qwert - not entirely. But if it was, this would be some pretty selective faultiness.
[07:06] <Athyria> Qwert - Since it seems to work with everything but regular ubuntu disks.
[07:06] <Ologn> marginoferror: You can ask on Ubuntu forums...I would mention everything you did already.  I don't think they'll have a solution, but who knows.  Because it is working for everything except that one web site.
[07:07] <h3oj> i found thx
[07:07] <marginoferror> Right.  Okay, thanks.
[07:07] <Qwert> Athyria: Have you burned the iso or used shipit cds?
[07:07] <chelz> xbonesx: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[07:08] <xbonesx> ty
[07:08] <xbonesx> chelz: ty
[07:08] <dooglus> I'm getting pretty bad 'tearing' while watching videos on ubuntu.  any advice?
[07:08] <Athyria> Qwert - I've burnt them plenty of times. Wot?
[07:08] <Ologn> marginoferror: Also go to http://status.plurk.com first try from one of the machines it doesn't work on
[07:09] <marginoferror> Ologn: That loads for all clients, yes.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> dooglus:  if using compiz, theres a 'enable sync to vblank' (i think) option that helped  my system a lot.
[07:10] <thune3> dooglus: watching web videos or through a player?
[07:10] <Ologn> marginoferror: That is on their 183 subnet.  It has a lot of info on network problems, which is odd
[07:10] <dooglus> Dr_Willis: I have 'visual effects' set to 'none'.  it's an old laptop
[07:10] <dooglus> thune3: local .avi files, using mplayer_nogui or totem
[07:11] <chelz> h3oj: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:ubuntuforums.org+sleep+ubuntu+terminal
[07:11] <Qwert> Athyria: With proper md5 sums check? Usually it doesn't affect but..
[07:11] <Ologn> marginoferror: It says their pingable machine is ping.plurk.com
[07:11] <dooglus> Dr_Willis, thune3: lspci reports I have: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[07:11] <marginoferror> Ologn: Yes, recently the entire site was down.  The problems I have been experiencing intermittently are only since then.  But nobody else I have talked to (none of them on Linux) has experienced troubles with their network since then.
[07:11] <marginoferror> Ologn: ping.plurk.com?  Interesting setup.  Thank you
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> dooglus:  not sure what else to tell you then. mplayer has some flitering options that may help. but ive never used them much
[07:11] <Athyria> Qwert - if that's what a check disk equates to, sometimes.
[07:11] <chelz> !bootoptions | Athyria
[07:12] <thune3> dooglus: you can try the -vo gl or -vo gl2 in mplayer, sometimes the default xv gets tearing (without compiz)
[07:12] <xbonesx> chelz: after i run 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180' then what do i do?
[07:12] <chelz> Athyria: have you tried the alternate disc?
[07:12] <thune3> dooglus: maybe -vo sdl might work, not sure.
[07:12] <Qwert> Athyria: Since your bios is old, we cannot try other means
[07:12] <dooglus> gosh.  I just clicked 'cancel' in the visual-effects dialog
[07:12] <Athyria> chelz - Alternate disc?
[07:12] <dooglus> I only went there to check I had 'none' selected
[07:12] <chelz> xbonesx: after it's done you should have something telling you to restart. even if you aren't told that, you should save your open stuff and restart
[07:12] <chelz> Athyria: yes
[07:12] <dooglus> and hitting 'cancel' has killed my window manager!
[07:13] <Wiesshund> dooglus what kind of laptop? it also might be stuggling a bit to decode the video
[07:13] <xbonesx> chelz: ok ty
[07:13] <chelz> !alternate | Athyria
[07:13] <h3oj> chelz, rly thx
[07:13] <dooglus> Wiesshund: it's an old toshiba satellite
[07:13] <dooglus> Wiesshund: an A210
[07:13] <Qwert> Athyria: Yeah, have you tried that?
[07:13] <chelz> Athyria: what os was your server running before?
[07:14] <Qwert> chelz: I was trying to remember the name :)
[07:14] <Athyria> chelz - An install mode that install prettily like freebsd would? *kitty eyes* Can you tell it everything? Does it go pretty? Is it all lovely?
[07:14] <Wiesshund> dooglus you know what cpu it has? not familiar with the models
[07:15] <chelz> Athyria: it looks like the debian installer, http://www.shtylman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/debian_installer.png
[07:15] <Athyria> chelz - Er, not the server. The server just hates me. This is the desktop. That's not working. Whereas the server is just being hateful.
[07:15] <chelz> Athyria: but still, you haven't formatted and it's just not booting from a bad upgrade, boot to the alternate disc and get a shell, then finish the update
[07:15] <dooglus> Wiesshund: model name	: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor TK-55
[07:15] <Athyria> chelz - Oh... debian... so vaguely prettily? Not gentoo pretty, but still ish...
[07:16] <Athyria> chelz - it's not an upgrade, though. I'm trying to go to an older version. The updates worked... they... did things. Horrible things. Terribly things.
[07:16] <Wiesshund> dooglus oh thats not so old and decrepid :) it should play back video fine, might just have to tweak some with what the others suggested
[07:16] <xbonesx> chelz: after i restarted i went back into /system/administration/hardware drivers and activated, do i need to restart again?
[07:17] <chelz> xbonesx: wouldn't hurt
[07:17] <Athyria> chelz - but now nothing but kubuntu or xubuntu will install, and kubuntu's too slow to change... and xubuntu just doesn'T work.
[07:17] <okapi14> Hi all, I have a system that hangigng at "loading Hardware", no other error. How can I find the faulty hardware?
[07:17] <dooglus> Wiesshund: while playing, the CPU is 75% idle...
[07:17] <xbonesx> chelz: ok
[07:17] <dooglus> Wiesshund: can I find out what video driver it's using?
[07:17] <chelz> Athyria: as in xubuntu won't boot? or what?
[07:18] <Qwert> Athyria: Well if you can install kubuntu, i t would be better to reinstall kubuntu with proper format. And then transform to ubuntu
[07:18] <Wiesshund> dooglus you can click system > admin > hardware to see if its running propriety drivers
[07:19] <chelz> Qwert: a lot of hdd space could be saved by just using the ubuntu alternate installer
[07:19] <dooglus> Wiesshund: I ran the 'hardware drivers' thing from the system>admin menu yesterday.  it told me no prop. drivers we in use or available
[07:19] <chelz> i'd really recommend xubuntu if the desktop is 10 years or so old
[07:19] <dooglus> Wiesshund: but there is a proprietary ATI driver isn't there?
[07:20] <Qwert> chelz: Right if my option doesn't work. Moreover, tranforming would not take disk space
[07:20] <Wiesshund> dooglus there is but it only goes back so far. the older ati hardware isnt supported by them
[07:20] <thune3> dooglus: not 100% sure, but I think your graphic X1200 is no longer supported by the proprietary driver from ATI
[07:20] <zetheroo1> where can I get documentation of devicekit in Ubuntu?
[07:20] <Wiesshund> thune3 it isnt
[07:20] <woodyjlw> anyone know a easy program to change wma into mp3 ?  kicking myself for using windows media player to rip my cd's......kicking myself for using MS to try do anything right!
[07:20] <ibrahim-kasem> suddenly no sound on lucid and to fix this I have to restart.
[07:20] <dooglus> thune3: I'll try different -vo options then.  thanks
[07:20] <Qwert> chelz: I mean after trying your option. he may try what i suggest  (And yes if xubuntu works that's better. And if he want ubuntu, he will have to tranform)
[07:20] <zetheroo1> can you enable SHMConfig through DeviceKit?
[07:20] <chelz> Qwert: i was thinking unless one does a --purge to delete all the kde files, they'd still be installed and taking up space
[07:21] <Wiesshund> woodyjlw ffshow
[07:21] <h3oj> chelz, thanks man, or on apci or pm-suspend. Good night and thanks
[07:21] <chelz> h3oj: good to hear
[07:22] <Wiesshund> woodyjlw windows does rip cd's in mp3 format btw. just have to change the setting in media player.
[07:22] <armence> Hello all. How do I find out where a binary is? I know it's in my path because I can just type its name, but I want to know where it is stored...
[07:22] <chelz> woodyjlw: SoundConverter
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> armence:  'which binaryname'
[07:22] <chelz> woodyjlw: sudo apt-get install soundsonverter
[07:22] <Qwert> chelz: Now if xubuntu is getting installed, forget about installing kubuntu and tranforming. I would like to see if he is able to use alternate install :)
[07:22] <h3oj> God bless, i run
[07:23] <chelz> woodyjlw: then Applications -> Sound & Video -> Sound Converter
[07:23] <uLinux> Why the splash screen doesnt use 1920x1080 resolution?
[07:23] <dooglus> wow, that's great.  mplayer -vo gl (or gl2) fixes it
[07:23] <chelz> Qwert: oh yeah. using a xubuntu alternate disc would be ideal
[07:23] <dooglus> thanks guys
[07:23] <Wiesshund> armence locate filename ?
[07:23] <chelz> uLinux: depends on your graphics card/hardware
[07:23] <armence> which worked
[07:23] <uLinux> chelz: the splash saying Ubuntu is small for my monitor
[07:23] <chelz> zetheroo1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeviceKit and http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/DeviceKit
[07:24] <Qwert> chelz: If that what he wants. Otherwise ubuntu alternate disc
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> armence:  'which' specifically searxches the path. 'locate' would look everywhere
[07:24] <Wiesshund> uLinux join the club
[07:24] <Qwert> chelz: You suggested him.. what did he say?
[07:24] <zetheroo1> chelz: ok thanks
[07:24] <chelz> Qwert: haven't seen anything in a while
[07:24] <armence> Dr_Willis, which is what I needed, thanks
[07:24] <Qwert> Athyria: There?
[07:24] <uLinux> Wiesshund: i tried to use startup-manager but it only allows up to 1600x1200
[07:24] <dooglus> Dr_Willis: I prefer 'type' to 'which'.  it's a builtin
[07:24] <chelz> uLinux: some nvidia gfx devices have good resolutions starting up. it really depends
[07:25] <Wiesshund> uLinux the boot logo?
[07:25] <uLinux> yes Wiesshund
[07:25] <woodyjlw> k  thanks guys now I can try to get these wma fixed :)  I knew I could switch wma to mp3 in MS but did not think it mattered till I started using linux and found MS is a pain and intentionally sabotaging files to make it harder for any one ells to use them
[07:25] <uLinux> chelz: maybe i did something wrong but when i boot from livecd it shows splashscreen perfectly
[07:25] <freesbie> Hi, is there a way to limit/restrict the directories with nautilus? Just want to have only the home directory for browsing within nautilus.
[07:25] <Wiesshund> uLinux heh i couldnt get mine to go to 1440X900, so you are doing better than i am
[07:25] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: How to open gtk/ot applications from tty1?
[07:25] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: &Qt
[07:26] <Athyria> Qwert - er...
[07:26] <uLinux> Wiesshund: if i use livecd it looks nice
[07:26] <chelz> uLinux: that's odd
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Qwert:  type its name...   .. but you mean from the alt-ctrl F1 CONSOLE? and have it run on your X destop? You may need to
[07:26] <uLinux> chelz: btw i installed ubuntu when i had another monitor
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Qwert:  export DISPLAY=:0.0   first
[07:26] <chelz> uLinux: oh! you must have an nvidia card and installed the proprietary driver
[07:26] <Qwert> Athyria: Yeah.. what is your plan now?
[07:26] <Qwert> Athyria: alternate disc?
[07:26] <uLinux> chelz: i do..
[07:26] <Wiesshund> uLinux yea i didnt spend alot of time fussing with it, its only on the screen for a few seconds
[07:27] <chelz> uLinux: the livecd uses the nonproprietary nvidia driver, which allows for good resolution stuff during boot
[07:27] <uLinux> ohh
[07:27] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: No i mean when one uses recovery mode from boot, tty1 opens
[07:27] <chelz> uLinux: i have nvidia too, that happens to me :)
[07:27] <Athyria> Qwert - I was going to wave a breadstick and command the spirits within to stop dithering about, but that might be a better idea.
[07:27] <uLinux> :) they could fix it :P
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> Qwert:   those are 'consoles'
[07:27] <chelz> uLinux: you have to pick between having the nice boot resolution and whatever the proprietary driver gives you
[07:27] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: From tty1 i was trying to open network tools
[07:27] <chelz> uLinux: ehh.. i guess they're working on it. talk to nvidia :P
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> Qwert:  you have X going? if not.. then you are not going to 'see' a X gui app from the consoel..
[07:28] <zetheroo1> what happens with nvidia?
[07:28] <chelz> Athyria: how old is your desktop computer?
[07:28] <Wiesshund> woodyjlw the files arent sabatoged, its just that wm format is proprietary. mp3 didnt use to be an open format either once upon a time
[07:28] <zetheroo1> chelz: ^^
[07:28] <Qwert> Athyria: Huh? I am only to trying to help. Sarcasm not the option :)
[07:28] <bobstro> Wiesshund:  is it open now?
[07:29] <zetheroo1> Athyria: ha .. that may just work :P
[07:29] <Athyria> Qwert - that wasn't sarcasm. O_o
[07:29] <Qwert> Athyria: Oh.. sorry i read that wrong.
[07:29] <uLinux> chelz: im gonna send an email to them :P
[07:29] <chelz> zetheroo1: plymouth (ubuntu's boot stuff) supports high resolution splash screen stuff, while the proprietary nvidia driver doesn't (at least with plymouth)
[07:29] <Wiesshund> bobstro well kind of. you dont have to go paying mony for a set of L&H codecs anymore
[07:29] <Qwert> Athyria: What about alternate install?
[07:29] <chelz> uLinux: you could try posting on the nvidia linux forums. that's actually a pretty nice place
[07:29] <Athyria> chelz - oldish. But apparently the main problem is somewhere else entirely.
[07:29] <abhijit> bye all!
[07:30] <zetheroo1> chelz: ah, yes ... I also don't get a highres boot splash image ...
[07:30] <chelz> Athyria: just see if an alternate cd works at all. if it does, you should see if ubuntu is fast enough, and if it isn't, try xubuntu
[07:30] <Qwert> Athyria: Yeah.. read it wrong. What about alternate install? :)
[07:30] <chelz> zetheroo1: yeah. that's the way it is right now with the proprietary driver afaik
[07:30] <uLinux> ;(
[07:30] <Qwert> Athyria: Yes same is what i suggest as by chelz
[07:30] <zetheroo1> chelz: with Intel I always have it highres  ...
[07:31] <Athyria> Qwert, chez - actually, no. kubuntu works as an install. In other words, I give up.
[07:31] <Wiesshund> zetheroo1 yea i dont think intel has any proprietary drivers
[07:31] <Athyria> Qwert, chez - but thank you for trying.
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> Plymouth is a bit of a 'fail' with my 3 nvidia systems also.
[07:31] <zetheroo1> Wiesshund: none at all? ..
[07:31] <chelz> blame nvidia not plymouth
[07:31] <Qwert> Athyria: Hey!! I guess it possible for you to use ubuntu
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> I do see the Plymouth animations when i close down :)
[07:32] <chelz> Athyria: aw, giving up's no fun
[07:32] <uLinux> Dr_Willis:  me too after fixing splash screen lol
[07:32] <linze> morning
[07:32] <Wiesshund> Dr_Willis i see the animations, for the few seconds that screen is up, it just wont go full screen
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> I blame the Decision to include plymouth, and not make a easy option to disable it...
[07:33] <uLinux> or if the image was black you would think it's fullscreen
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> uLinux:  at least you can see somthing. :)
[07:33] <uLinux> yeah
[07:33] <Qwert> Athyria: As you say, you can call us back. Many from channel would be willing to help. Welcome :)
[07:33] <Wiesshund> eh its just a boot screen, not really of much importance
[07:33] <uLinux> for me every detail is important :p
[07:33] <chelz> Athyria: yeah, when you're ready to try ubuntu again you're welcome anytime
[07:33] <Athyria> Qwert -  what about my other computer? Can you fix that?
[07:34] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: Well tty1 are consoles right?
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Wiesshund:  ive seen several people in here this week that couldent 'easialy' enter their encrypted home/whatever password due to the Plymouth issues...
[07:34] <chelz> Athyria: could try
[07:34] <Wiesshund> I would actualy prefer the old red hat coloured ansi text interactive type start up
[07:34] <Qwert> Athyria: What you want to try on tyhaT?
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Qwert:  You have 7 consoles by default,. alt-ctrl-f1 through F7, X normally runs on 'f7' yes.
[07:34] <chelz> Wiesshund: you can always customize it to that if you really want :)
[07:34] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: Ok.. I'll see. Thanks
[07:35] <Wiesshund> chelz hmm, i couldnt find any info on doing that
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> !console
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> Wiesshund:   its not real 'trivial' :) unless you use the text option, and launch gdm from rc.local. but thats a bit of a kludge.
[07:35] <Grazih> oi tem aguém aii
[07:35] <Athyria> Laptop, newish, recently reformated. Some arbitrary number of partitions... ubuntu and ubuntu most recently installed. One ubuntu ate the other one's grub or something. But the other other one's grub is the one being used and it's pointing to the wrong things. How do I override it?
[07:36] <Grazih> afim de conversa
[07:36] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: Hey! Thats fine. I was thinking if there is a possiblilty to gui applications from console.(Bringing mouse in console to begin with) :)
[07:36] <RealOpty> how can i clone a hdd? i wanna mainly backup my restore partition.
[07:36] <rww> !pt | Grazih
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> RealOpty:  theres sevarl tools to do that. 'dd' can be used. but theres more dedicated tools.
[07:36] <Qwert> Athyria: What is the configuration of other system?
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> !info fsarchive
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> !info fsarchivee
[07:37] <Athyria> Qwert - what do you mean?
[07:37] <maestrojed> My computer locked up and now boots to a bunch of errors and ends in a command line called [initramfs]. Following advice I was going to boot from a cd run fsck. But the CD won't boot. It sites on the purple ubuntu splash screen with the dots showing progress. Any help?
[07:37] <chelz> Athyria: you should reinstall grub so that it's pointing to the install you want to use primarily, then once you boot in, install Startup Manager
[07:37] <Qwert> Athyria: What you want to try on it? What is the problem with it?
[07:38] <chelz> Athyria: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD
[07:38] <Athyria> chelz, Qwert - the problem is, I've tried reinstalling grub. It's not writing to the mbr or something, though, because the old one is still being used.
[07:38] <Wiesshund> maestrojed how long did you allow it to sit?
[07:38] <Qwert> !info fsarchiver
[07:38] <Qwert> !info fsarchiver | Dr_Willis
[07:38] <maestrojed> Wiesshund: not sure, 15mins+
[07:38] <chelz> Athyria: you need to run something like: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sdX
[07:39] <Wiesshund> maestrojed oh :( ok that was long enough then
[07:39] <rickmasta> Hey guys, I just installed webmin, does anyone know how I can go to it by just using the ip? http://00.000.000.000:10000? Right now, it's saying I have to use the hostname, but I don't have a host name set up yet.
[07:39] <chelz> Athyria: see that link
[07:39] <Athyria> chelz - and I think following what that said may have been what got me into this mess in the first place... or something.
[07:39] <Wiesshund> Dr_Willis rather than shooting plymouth, id rather shoot UUID
[07:39] <greezmunkey> rickmasta: try "localhost"
[07:39] <Qwert> Athyria: MBR - Master boot record is for Windows. Is that dual boot?
[07:39] <chelz> Athyria: we can go through it step by step. just boot to a livecd.
[07:40] <greezmunkey> rickmasta: http://localhost:10000
[07:40] <chelz> Qwert: MBR is what dos-type partition tables call the beginning of the disk.
[07:40] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: Is that what you were looking for?
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Wiesshund:  ive had very few issues with the UUID system.. in fact its saved me many a time
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Qwert:  i just dident want to flood the channel more. :) i use the app every so often.
[07:40] <Qwert> chelz: Yes
[07:40] <chelz> Qwert: basically all x86/x64 computers use MBR or GPT partition tables
[07:40] <Qwert> Dr_Willis: Ok:)
[07:40] <xbonesx> anyone know the directory for xchat? trying to change the conf and prevent file for colors, but the websites default directory isnt where mine was put from synaptic install
[07:40] <Wiesshund> Dr_Willis Its not so fun when UUIDs change
[07:41] <freesbie> Does anyone know a way to show only the home directory in the file browser or an alternative file browser which shows only the home directory?
[07:41] <Athyria> Qwert - try quadruple boot with spare hard drive with two more operating systems...
[07:41] <chelz> Qwert: grub docs usually refer to installing grub on an hdd as installing it "to the mbr"
[07:41] <chelz> freesbie: as in lock a user so they can only see their own home dir?
[07:41] <Athyria> chelz - it's booted from the live cd now. Problem is, I already tried that.
[07:41] <Qwert> chelz: Yes. Got that.
[07:41] <Mkaysi> xbonesx: I think it is /home/username/.xchat
[07:42] <abhijit> m back!
[07:42] <Qwert> Athyria: You want to try that?
[07:42] <Qwert> Hello Abhijit
[07:42] <chelz> Athyria: please pastebin the output of:   fdisk -l
[07:42] <Athyria> Qwert - no, I mean that's what it is.
[07:42] <chelz> Athyria: actually   sudo fdisk -l
[07:42] <Qwert> Athyria: also dmesg
[07:42] <freesbie> chelz: not exactly. I just want to limit what's visible in nautilus. I don't mind command line usage
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Wiesshund:  change them back.   ive had to many flash/live installs that dident use UUID's that i have had to fight with,,  many more times the issue for me . then having UUID's change. Actually i cant recall the last time a UUID changed on me
[07:43] <abhijit> Qwert, :D
[07:43] <chelz> freesbie: is this just for cosmetics/looks or security?
[07:43] <Qwert> chelz: He is making it complex i guess
[07:43] <Athyria> chelz, Qwert - I can't paste; I'm on the other other machine and ubuntu versions since 9.something don't by default list universe packages.
[07:43] <ibrahim-kasem> abhijit, hi :)
[07:43] <abhijit> ibrahim-kasem, hello
[07:44] <chelz> Athyria: does the computer booted to the livecd have internet access?
[07:44] <Wiesshund> Dr_Willis its easy to figure out whats /sda5 sdb1 etc, trying to fix something and figure out what 09820398123234 was sucks
[07:44] <RealOpty> someone test this link for me http://realopty.co.cc/muninlite/
[07:44] <greezmunkey> freesbie: check here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/527876/how-to-restrict-a-linux-user-to-be-only-able-to-read-home-user-and-nothing-else
[07:44] <xbonesx> Mkaysi: TY i didnt know you had to put the '~' in front... :p
[07:44] <xbonesx> Mkaysi: why is that?
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> Wiesshund:  ive had much more issues with /dev/sdXY changeing. but do what you want. :)
[07:45] <chelz> xbonesx: ~ means your home directory in bash
[07:45] <Athyria> chelz... sort of?
[07:45] <xbonesx> ah ok
[07:45] <xbonesx> TY! :)
[07:45] <chelz> Athyria: can you go to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[07:45] <Qwert> Athyria: You simply want to use ubuntu right?
[07:45] <GhostWolf> hi all, whats the best software for ubuntu 10.04 for webcam?
[07:45] <chelz> xbonesx: you can do stuff like "ls ~" even
[07:45] <Jesdisciple> Ghost: I'd like to know too, tbh
[07:46] <greezmunkey> freesbie: do you see the problem with locking them down...
[07:46] <freesbie> chelz: I'm preparing a locked down account (with gconf settings) for a kiosk. Just need to worry about nautilus for now.
[07:46] <Athyria> Qwert - no, I want my grub to find my ubuntus.
[07:46] <Wiesshund> Dr_Willis heh my dev/sdX always changes, depending on what slots i poke the drives back in
[07:46] <okapi14> Hi all, I have a system that hangigng at "loading Hardware", no other error. How can I find the faulty hardware?
[07:46] <GhostWolf> Jesdisciple, i used before cheese, but i don't certain sites didn't detect i had a webcam
[07:46] <chelz> freesbie: i would call that a security context. you should use filesystem permissions for that. that like greezmunkey said looks good
[07:46] <Qwert> Athyria: Is there any data in it?
[07:46] <greezmunkey> freesbie: Ah, got that...
[07:46] <xbonesx> whats the copy file command?
[07:46]  * abhijit is busy finding new 'unique' nick! :(
[07:46] <Athyria> Qwert - it looks like a perfectly ordinary bootloader... except it's all wrong and I can't even find it.
[07:47] <Athyria> Qwert - so... er, yes?
[07:47] <xbonesx> googling NVM
[07:47] <freesbie> greezmunkey: any ideas?
[07:47] <chelz> freesbie: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/05/27/how-to-lock-down-gnome/
[07:47] <GhostWolf> Jesdisciple, so i had to use it on my windows comp but since i only have one monitor and i used remote connection to connect to it, it doesn't do a good job as if i was running it without remote desktop
[07:47] <Qwert> Athyria: Which system are you on now? Old or other?
[07:47] <Athyria> chelz - apparently not from the livecd...
[07:47] <chelz> freesbie: http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+lock+down+ubuntu+account+kiosk
[07:47] <Jesdisciple> well I just booted a 10.04 ISO on VirtualBox and it said I had just under 6 MB on a USB device...  I have an 8 GB USB and no other
[07:47] <Athyria> Qwert - I'm trying to get the laptop to work now.
[07:47] <Jesdisciple> wut the heck?
[07:48] <greezmunkey> freesbie: did you check the link I posted, there are some decent ideas there, but there is kiosk software freely available, have you checked into that?
[07:48] <chelz> Athyria: how do you connect it to the internet? ethernet cable to a router? home wifi?
[07:48] <Qwert> Athyria: Laptop, so it stucks at grub and cannot boot ubuntu right?
[07:48] <GhostWolf> Jesdisciple, did you check to make sure nothing else was on the device? nor refortmat it to make sure its empty?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> freesbie:  i saw a tool called 'Ofris' the other day its a 'deep freeze' like tool for ubuntu.  used by cafes and so forth.  Ive not tried it  but it may be of use to you ---> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/ofris-deep-freeze-like-application-for.html
[07:48] <Qwert> chelz: You want to try network install?
[07:48] <Jesdisciple> I formatted it before booting VirtualBox
[07:48] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple does your pc have one of those instant on OS's?
[07:48] <chelz> Qwert: Athyria mentioned there are multiple ubuntu installs and grub is pointing to the wrong one
[07:49] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: huh?
[07:49] <GhostWolf> Jesdisciple, then i don't know sorry
[07:49] <chelz> Qwert: no i'm just trying to get internet access for pastebin stuff to make the reinstalling grub2 easy
[07:49] <Jesdisciple> here's the guide I'm foloing: http://mintarticles.com/read/operating-systems-articles/how-to-install-portable-linux-ubuntu-on-a-bootable-usb-flash-drive-from-sun-virtualbox,13641/
[07:49] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple expressgate/splashtop/lenovo ?
[07:49] <Athyria> chelz - normally with whatever, but it doesn't seem to work from the live cd.
[07:49] <Qwert> chelz: Okay.. lets see
[07:49] <GhostWolf> does anyone else know a great webcam software for ubuntu? i am using the 10.04 64bit version
[07:49] <abhijit> GhostWolf, cheese?
[07:49] <Jesdisciple> no, I'm running Ubuntu
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  software to do what exactly?
[07:50] <Jesdisciple> on the host system
[07:50] <GhostWolf> abhijeet, is that the best one
[07:50] <Jesdisciple> 9.10
[07:50] <chelz> !usb | Jesdisciple
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  theres 'webcamstudio' thats fun to play with...
[07:50] <Athyria> Qwert - and the grub is only messing up with the new installs; the old install and the windows are just fine; it hasn't bloody updated.
[07:50] <chelz> Jesdisciple: you want a persistent usb install
[07:50] <GhostWolf> Dr_Willis, everything for webcams
[07:50] <freesbie> chelz I'm using Sabayon (i.e., pessulus + couple of things) and some hand editing of gconf values. Didn't find a way to actually limit nautilus use. I'm checking your links btw. Thanks
[07:50] <uLinux> How can I run an executable in terminal and them minimize/hide it?
[07:50] <uLinux> then*
[07:50] <chelz> Athyria: if you bring up firefox, what does firefox say?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  'everthing' tells me very little..  check out webcam studio i guess..
[07:50] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple yea eh thats not what i was reffering to :) you said your showing some oddball usb storage device?
[07:50] <GhostWolf> Dr_Willis, i had cheese but aslo when i use a website or even amsn to use my webcam it gave me issues
[07:50] <Jesdisciple> chelz and ubottu: Yes, I was at the Ubuntu Wiki
[07:50] <chelz> freesbie: this channel is for Ubuntu support only
[07:50] <Qwert> chelz: Go to recovery mode and click update grub loader.. let us know what it says
[07:50] <Jesdisciple> and it directed me to the guide I linked to
[07:51] <freesbie> Dr_Willis: thanks for think. I'm cheking
[07:51] <GhostWolf> Dr_Willis, well its a webcam what do you do with webcam? take pictures, videos have video chat with other people you know. its not that complicated in my book
[07:51] <linze> later
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  webcamstudio is designed to work as a 'middleman' btween your webcam and various chat/video chat programs to let you expand the features of the cam. or even use alterantives to a actual webcam
[07:51] <Athyria> chelz - the usual? Server not found.
[07:51] <freesbie> chelz: Yep, I'm working on a Ubuntu system. Just looking my way around. Thanks for the reminder though :)
[07:51] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: yeh...?
[07:52] <GhostWolf> Dr_Willis, ok..
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  cheese lets you take pictures and videos.. vlc can also work as a front end to the webcam.  as for the 'chatting' its all about what the chat programs support.
[07:52] <Qwert> Athyria: Go to recovery mode and click update grub loader.. let us know what it says
[07:52] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: not sure where you're going witht hat
[07:52] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple if your motherboard has one of those instant on OS's embeded on it, those are usualy on a USB drive thats soldered to the motherboard. which somethimes show up as some stupid sized usb drive, to linux anyways
[07:53] <Athyria> Qwert - which recovery mode? There are three... and a cd...
[07:53] <Ed_Money> Step 4 of 7 on install, prepare disk space, my 2 choices are "Erase and use the entire disk" (dont want this) or Specify Partitions Manually, I get to the next screen "Prepare Partitions", not sure what to do. help?
[07:53] <GhostWolf> Dr_Willis, like i said programs like msn or for linux users, amsn, those kind of things uses allows video chat and stuff
[07:53] <uLinux> if i run a program ./program how can I close the terminal without closing the program ?
[07:53] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: =\
[07:53] <Qwert> Athyria: I mean does the grup load on starting system? Do you see recovery mode option as well?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  so you are looking for a 'instant messaging' client then?  or a WebCam Recorder program?
[07:53] <Kritoslap> Hello, I'm using the latest proprietary drivers from ati and I would like to remove them and install those from hardware drivers. How do I remove them?
[07:53] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple is the dumb sized drive the only one showing?
[07:53] <Athyria> Qwert - I see three.
[07:53] <Jesdisciple> So what should I do to make my 8GB appear to VB?
[07:53] <chelz> Qwert: you sure karmic has the grub option in the recovery menu?
[07:54] <Jesdisciple> and yes it is
[07:54] <Athyria> Qwert - Well, three sets. o_O
[07:54] <Qwert> Athyria: Iike what?
[07:54] <hallelujah> hi
[07:54] <GhostWolf> Dr_Willis, no im looking for a program that does like what my webcam program in windows does..
[07:54] <hallelujah> new here
[07:54] <Qwert> chelz: Thats what i asking him now
[07:54] <Wiesshund> Kritoslap disable them, use synaptic to download the ones from the repository
[07:54] <Jesdisciple> Hi Hallelujah
[07:54] <Qwert> chelz: as far as i remeber, it does
[07:55] <Kritoslap> Wiesshund,  I don't know how to disable them
[07:55] <hallelujah> hi Jes
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  i have no idea what your webcam program in windows does..
[07:55] <GhostWolf> like i said i don't know if its my webcam with the other programs like amsn or on sites that give me these errrs
[07:55] <Athyria> Qwert - Each ubuntu listed has its own set of recovery modes listed.
[07:55] <GhostWolf> nevermind then Dr_Willis..
[07:55] <Kritoslap> Wiesshund,  From were....
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  every pc/laptop i have.. has its own 'webcam' toy programs..
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> The one that came ith my Toshiba - is a lot of fun. :)
[07:55] <cyborgsmurf> any program for ubuntu where you can copy sms from cellphone to PC?
[07:55] <GhostWolf> Dr_Willis, im not talking about prebuilt ones into laptops..
[07:55] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: the 6MB is the only shown USB drive
[07:55] <Athyria> Qwert - dunno if they're actually pointing to anything, though.
[07:56] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple just to check, pull out the 8gb drive and see if you still see an odball drive
[07:56] <chelz> Athyria: and none of those is the ubuntu you want to boot to?
[07:56] <Jesdisciple> alright
[07:56] <Qwert> Athyria: Thats better. Can you choose recovery mode and inform about what happens on update grub loading option. Try it..
[07:56] <Wiesshund> Kritoslap synaptic package manager
[07:56] <LinuxFetus> Hey, I'd like to suggested that pastebinit be include with Ubuntu by default -- where do I go to do that? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages#Requesting a new package for Ubuntu seems to be for requesting packages to be in repositories.
[07:56] <Kritoslap> Wiesshund,  I did it, thanks.
[07:56] <Jesdisciple> sec...  I'm having to minimize memory usage to run VB, so xchat gets cut
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  if you want to do .. webcam -> special effects --> Some IM chat program that uses the cam..      webcamstudio can do the 'effects' stuff. If the program handles 'v4l' standard devices.. v4l2 device support is comming soon to webcam studio
[07:56] <Athyria> chelz, Qwert - Oh... they do work. How odd.
[07:57] <GhostWolf> nevermind Dr_Willis
[07:57] <Kritoslap> Wiesshund,  I am having some major problems with latest drivers. God, never buy ati...and I made a ticket..they don't even care.
[07:57] <Qwert> Athyria: Aren't you on the same system?!
[07:57] <chelz> Athyria: did they not work at some point?
[07:57] <Kritoslap> Wiesshund,  You pay a lot of money and for what...to only use it with wind0wz
[07:57] <Kritoslap> Wiesshund,  Anyway thanks very much
[07:57] <chelz> Qwert: all the entries sound like kernel updates
[07:57] <freesbie> chelz: Oh, I meant the sabayon tool (a frontend to pessulus) not sabayon linux :)
[07:57] <Athyria> chelz, Qwert - the recovery modes work. They... one dropped me to a ubuntu... that... I removed? Er...
[07:57] <Wiesshund> Kritoslap sorry to hear that. ive got all ati though here. no troubles.
[07:58] <chelz> freesbie: oh, i was unaware of any kind of sabayon tool
[07:58] <Guest74926> LinusFetus:also imagebinit would be good for nubs
[07:58] <chelz> Athyria: is there any os installed on that laptop besides linux?
[07:58] <Qwert> Athyria: If the recovery mode is working, choose update grub menu
[07:58] <cyborgsmurf> Hi everyone! Any software for Ubuntu that can copy sms to PC?
[07:58] <Wiesshund> cyborgsmurf copy sms from where?
[07:58] <Abhijit> cyborgsmurf, wammu
[07:59] <Qwert> or gammu
[07:59] <cyborgsmurf> Wiesshund: from cellphone
[07:59] <Abhijit> Qwert, its same
[07:59] <chelz> Qwert: i'm not sure why grub would need to be updated if the recovery options boot, which really would mean that if the main ubuntu isn't booting, then the cause isn't grub
[07:59] <Athyria> Qwert, chelz - it has three ubuntus and a windows. Telling it to update grub didn't do anything.
[07:59] <chelz> cyborgsmurf: depends on the cellphone
[07:59] <Wiesshund> cyborgsmurf you got me there, it depends on the phone and how it is set up to do pc access
[07:59] <Qwert> chelz: Well i want to see the what it says
[08:00] <chelz> Qwert: ah alright
[08:00] <Qwert> Athyria: Its doing nothing?
[08:00] <Abhijit> cyborgsmurf, wammu has supported cell phone list on their website
[08:00] <Qwert> chelz: Which command helps to see grub version?
[08:00] <Athyria> Qwert - oh, it did update the grup. It just updated the wrong grub.
[08:00] <freesbie> chelz: it's actually pessulus + xephry plus a UI. apt-get install sabayon
[08:01] <Qwert> Athyria: Could you see the grub version? Can you go to tty1 console from recovery?
[08:01] <chelz> Qwert: grub --version
[08:01] <Wiesshund> cyborgsmurf the one phone ive got here that can be accessed via usb uses a propriety app to access the sim memory, and yet the SD card reads like a normal usb storage device
[08:01] <Qwert> chelz: No when in tty1 console from recovery. I hope it works there as well
[08:02] <cyborgsmurf> I will check it out, Thanks chelz, Abhijit, Wiesshund
[08:02] <Abhijit> cyborgsmurf, welcome
[08:02] <Athyria> Qwert, chelz - 1.97 beta, yes, and now grub just went away and dropped to an ambiguous maintenance shell.
[08:02] <chelz> Qwert: maybe some kind of dpkg thing to list the grub installed commands
[08:02] <Wiesshund> Ive got a tap cell phone, and ive yet to be able to access it in linux
[08:03] <Qwert> chelz: We can suggest him to open grub.conf text from console and make necessary changes if he knows thepath
[08:03] <Qwert> Athyria: Yes, hold on there
[08:03] <chelz> Athyria: so you're sure you installed multiple ubuntus on this laptop? since even if you install ubuntu again, it should put the old ubuntu in the new grub list
[08:03] <Athyria> Qwert - I don't know the path. I don't know which, if any, ubuntu this grub belongs to.
[08:04] <Athyria> chelz - I was under that impression, but that's not what happened.
[08:04] <Qwert> Athyria: You still didn't say if its dual boot..
[08:04] <Qwert> Athyria: Ok
[08:04] <Athyria> Qwert - I said it's a quadruple boot, three ubuntus and a windows.
[08:04] <Qwert> Athyria: Ok.. yeah
[08:04] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: Yes, I ejected the 8GB and the tiny one (536 MB I think - not 6 MB but .6 GB)
[08:04] <Guest74926> LinuxFetus:also imagebinit would be good for nubs
[08:05] <Jesdisciple> still shows as the hard drive that I'm to partition and install onto... which is rather comical
[08:05] <Qwert> chelz: What can be suggested, installing grub2 can make problems or will it recognise all os?
[08:06] <chelz> Qwert: os-prober, which is part of grub2 and would run during the install, would actually do the job just fine
[08:06] <Qwert> Athyria: All the os were installed propelry?
[08:06] <chelz> Athyria: what version(s) of ubuntu are installed?
[08:06] <Qwert> chelz: Then i guess from console of recovery we can suggest about grub2 installation. Shall we?
[08:07] <Guest74926> how called cross compiler for arm I cant find in aptcache
[08:07] <Athyria> Qwert - they seemed to think so at the time, and chelz - 2 9.10 xubuntus and a 10.04 ubuntu
[08:07] <whosjose> How can I change the smtp port on Evolution? There is no settings to change
[08:07] <chelz> Qwert: i'm thinking checking if any crucial data is in any of those installs, and if there isn't, just reinstalling ubuntu. or at least growing one of them and deleting the other two
[08:07] <chelz> Athyria: why did you install ubuntu all those times?
[08:07] <Athyria> Qwert - and grub2 is installed according to at least one of them. This I remember clearly.
[08:08] <Athyria> chelz - ...reasons. *shifty eyes*
[08:08] <Qwert> chelz: Well that would not be possilbe from console of recovery if that is what he is able to access
[08:09] <Qwert> Athyria: Alright.. Whats the third linux distro name?
[08:09] <Athyria> Qwert -  as in?
[08:09] <whosjose> How can I change the smtp port on Evolution? There is no settings to change how can i do it?
[08:10] <Qwert> Athyria: No prbs. Its fine
[08:10] <juk> can write be used for remote host?
[08:10] <chelz> Athyria: eh well wait, so what's the issue? is the ubuntu you want to use primarily not in the list?
[08:10] <Qwert> Athyria: So which one is working properly?
[08:11] <juk> how called cross compiler for arm I cant find in aptcache
[08:11] <Jesdisciple> whosjose: I don't think anyone here knows, try ##gnome
[08:11] <chelz> !cn | juk
[08:11] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple htm that is odd...
[08:12] <Qwert> whosjose: #ubuntu-server
[08:12] <whosjose> I got it
[08:12] <whosjose> :)
[08:12] <juk> how called cross compiler for arm I cant find in aptcache
[08:12] <chelz> juk: consult the developer documentation for the arm device you are trying to develop for
[08:12] <whosjose> host name ends domainname.com:port
[08:12] <whosjose> easiest thing feel stupid
[08:12] <juk> can write be used for remote host?
[08:12] <whosjose> Thanks:)
[08:12] <Nobody_> ubottu, have ubuntu vietnam irc yet ?
[08:12] <Qwert> whosjose: yes
[08:12] <chelz> juk: depends on the host
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> juk:  what 'write' are you refering to?
[08:12] <Nobody_> !vn
[08:13] <Jesdisciple> ubottu: But it's fun to show how dumb bots can be
[08:13] <zvacet> juk: arm-linux-gcc I think
[08:13] <Athyria> Qwert, chelz - The... vista is working properly... the ubuntus, not so much.
[08:13] <juk> Dr_Willis: write(1)
[08:13] <chelz> Nobody_: #ubuntu-vn
[08:13] <Athyria> Qwert, chelz - grub's not pointing to them.
[08:13] <juk> zvacet:thanks
[08:13] <Athyria> Qwert, chelz - properly.
[08:13] <chelz> Athyria: what happens when you try to select one of the ubuntus in grub?
[08:13] <Nobody_> chelz, ^^ , bot has anwers ^^
[08:14] <zvacet> juk:yw
[08:14] <chelz> Nobody_: ah yeah i saw right after i said that
[08:14] <Jesdisciple> so no ideas how to mount my USB to my virtual 10.04?
[08:14] <deusr> hi
[08:14] <Jesdisciple> heya
[08:14] <deusr> someone the use pack macbuntu?
[08:14] <Athyria> chelz - some drop to maintenance shells, some complain, some do nothing, some result in a system restart. It also varies by which kernel.
[08:14] <juk> zvacet:nopes
[08:14] <chelz> Jesdisciple: the proprietary virtualbox allows block device access to usb deices
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> Jesdisciple:  you use teh Virtualbox version from the VBOX homepage, and configure it to access the real USB device. then use the  vbox menus to actually enable it.. then mount it via the mount command, or it may automount
[08:15] <Jesdisciple> chelz: yes, I'm on the proprietary
[08:15] <chelz> Athyria: is there any data on any of the ubuntus that you don't want to lose?
[08:15] <Athyria> chelz - three even bring up the recovery menu.
[08:15] <Nobody_> chelz, but thank for your help ^^
[08:15] <Jesdisciple> Dr_Willis: I'm not sure I know how to do all that
[08:16] <Jesdisciple> for some reason the Settings dialog doesn't even see the USB
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> Jesdisciple:  one step at a time.. #1  get birtualbox from the Vbox homepage...
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> Jesdisciple:  the OSE version in the repos does NOT have the feature
[08:16] <Jesdisciple> I have the proprietary ;)
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> Jesdisciple:  step 2 - read the vbox docs, to see how to use the feature.
[08:16] <Athyria> chelz - are you suggesting reformatting?
[08:16] <chelz> Athyria: yes
[08:17] <Qwert> Athyria: Yes, if there is no data or if you can take backup
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> Jesdisciple:  ive seen some guides/wiki pages that detail how to do it with images.. but ive not done it in ages.
[08:17] <chelz> Athyria: you can boot to a livecd and recover files you want, recovering preferences is a per-application kind of thing
[08:17] <Qwert> But again window got to be installed after ubuntu else it will get messy
[08:18] <Athyria> Qwert, chelz - unfortunately, windows installs do not appreciate being moved, and I have already tried reformatting individual partitions.	
[08:18] <docbrown> hey everyone
[08:18] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple what ya trying to do? i dont think i saw the beginning of it?
[08:18] <chelz> Athyria: if you used ubuntu as your primary os for a while then you should try recovering that ubuntu
[08:18] <chelz> Athyria: specifically just deleting the partitions of the ubuntus you have installed manually from GParted on a livecd then when installing ubuntu select "use largest contiguous free space"
[08:18] <docbrown> hey everyone
[08:18] <Qwert> chelz: He said only windows is working
[08:18] <chelz> Athyria: make sure you're installing Lucid 10.04 too
[08:18] <chelz> Qwert: we don't have to move windows
[08:19] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: I'm installing Ubuntu 10.04 to my USB, for plug-and-play Linux action
[08:19] <Qwert> chelz: But how will he use gparted?
[08:19] <dobak> hi
[08:20] <Wiesshund> Oh making a portable linux. what os are you in now?
[08:20] <dobak> fuck windows
[08:20] <chelz> Qwert: standard ubuntu livecd
[08:20] <dobak> fuck ma
[08:20] <dobak> fuck mac
[08:20] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: I'm on 9.10 right now, the physical/host OS
[08:20] <chelz> !ot | dobak
[08:20] <dobak> lunux the best
[08:20] <Qwert> chelz: Ok
[08:21] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple ok in ubuntu 9.10 if you plug in usb drive, what size does it appear as in nautilus?
[08:22] <Qwert> hehe
[08:22] <bazhang> Qwert, ?
[08:22] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: almost 8GB total
[08:22] <Jesdisciple> but it's partitioned in two for the installation
[08:22] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple have you thought about using unetbootin?
[08:22] <Athyria> initramfs...
[08:23] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: it was mentioned, but VirtualBox seemed preferred
[08:24] <chelz> Athyria: ?
[08:24] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple hmm not sure why a virtualbox is preffered, must be some reason i suppose. i use the unetbootin though, great for installs where no usb or cd drive is available too
[08:25] <Qwert> Athyria: Ther?
[08:25] <jimlovell777> I was using Maverick for a while and had to stop because my sound stopped working after an update. I then installed a fresh copy of Lucid. Just an hour or two ago there were a few Linux Header updates. I installed them and now don't have sound again, this time on Lucid. Any ideas?
[08:25] <Athyria> chelz, Qwert - aye...
[08:25] <Abhijit> jimerickson, same exactly same thing here
[08:25] <Abhijit> jimlovell777, ^^^^^^
[08:25] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: from what I can see, it only does Live USBs, not full installations?
[08:25] <Qwert> Athyria: Why initramfs?
[08:26] <Athyria> Qwert - that's what it said. O_o
[08:26] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple it will let you do both
[08:26] <Qwert> brb
[08:27] <AbhiJit> jimlovell777, try insatll alsa-utils package its missing from my pc so check if its there on your pc or not
[08:27] <chelz> Athyria: were you trying to boot to a livecd? or what?
[08:27] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple typicaly you do a frugal install, then boot the installed device and finish it to a full install, theres lots of diff ways to run it though
[08:27] <chelz> Athyria: also, what version(s) of ubuntu do you have installed and what version is your livecd?
[08:27] <jimlovell777> AbhiJit: "alsa-utils is already the newest version." :-/
[08:28] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: frugal install?
[08:28] <AbhiJit> jimlovell777, but6 is it installed there? necuase after updations its automatically got deleted from my pc just 15 min ago
[08:28] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple kind of a lite install, but not compressed like the live CD
[08:28] <chelz> jimlovell777: have you looked over this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[08:29] <jimlovell777> chelz: Yes. I did that with Maverick and it was of no help. Everything is unmuted, supported, enabled, installed and loaded, as verified following the steps listed on that very page.
[08:29] <Jesdisciple> btw, what do you suggest for the partition sizes?
[08:29] <Athyria> chelz - I tried booting a ubuntu that had been fount more recently. It's been sunk too! And the versions are 9.10 32 and 64 and a 10.04 that I dunno, and the disc is 10.04 64.
[08:30] <jimlovell777> AbhiJit: Yes, it's installed and there.
[08:30] <AbhiJit> jimlovell777, ohh
[08:30] <xjkx> br.archive.ubuntu.com is off, what server can i replace it for
[08:30] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: the guide that uses VirtualBox says to limit file space to 3GB - seems small to me
[08:30] <AbhiJit> xjkx, main server
[08:30] <xjkx> which is...
[08:30] <Jesdisciple> his example device was also 8GB
[08:30] <xbonesx> how do you set superuser inside gnome
[08:30] <AbhiJit> xjkx, archive.ubuntu.com
[08:30] <chelz> Athyria: i really recommend booting to that livecd, running a "Check disk for defects", then going into GParted
[08:30] <xbonesx> not terminal
[08:31] <Jesdisciple> file space = /home, etc
[08:31] <chelz> xbonesx: what are you trying to do?
[08:31] <Guest24884>  
[08:31] <AbhiJit>  
[08:31] <Guest24884> .
[08:31] <xbonesx> add a theme package through the theme installer and it says access denied
[08:31] <in5ern0> hi all
[08:31] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple not sure on the virtualbox guide. how come 2 partitions on the usb drive though?
[08:32] <Guest24884> Is it a Sandisk U3?
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  what 'theme installer' are you refering to?
[08:32] <xjkx> AbhiJit: thanks
[08:33] <AbhiJit> xjkx, welcome
[08:33] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: "In order to separate the operating system from the documents you would like to save on the flash drive, it is advisable that you divide your USB flash drive into two partitions."
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> Jesdisciple:  those U3 gizmos can cause all sorts of annoyances. :) i always repartiion and remove the U3 stuff.
[08:33] <Guest24884> yup
[08:33] <chelz> xbonesx: in a terminal you do   gksudo program
[08:33] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: U3?
[08:33] <Grobuonias> c.ktu.lt
[08:33] <Grobuonias> irc.ktu.lt
[08:34] <Jesdisciple> I can't see my msgs nemore...
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> I just use the installer and do a 'normal' install to my flash drives. :) but i have a 16gb flash drive.
[08:34] <Jesdisciple> nvm
[08:34] <Athyria> chelz - and what?
[08:34] <Jesdisciple> only some are disappearing
[08:34] <xbonesx> chelz: i entered that in a terminal and it didnt do anything, it hanged for a minute but didnt do anything... ???
[08:34] <pippo> ciao
[08:34] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis: not sure how can i tell?
[08:34] <ish_nitti> Anyone know why the Ubuntu Xchat2 package doesn't include sound for alerts?
[08:34] <ish_nitti> or how i could get them installed? i tried to look for a xchat sound pack on google, but i only found other people with the same issue :(
[08:34] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: USB 3 maybe?
[08:35] <uLinux> any Mint users?
[08:35] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple im not sure it there is alot of point into mounting /home in a spearate partion on a usb drive
[08:35] <pippo> !list
[08:35] <AbhiJit> !mint | uLinux
[08:35] <coolroot--> hi! i got a problem regarding to my ubuntu 10.04...yesterday when i try to right click my mouse i got this options....but now....when i try to right click the mouse...i can't see those options anymore...how can i get back those options?
[08:35] <uLinux> few ppl there :P
[08:35] <bazhang> uLinux, in the mint support channel, ie not here
[08:35] <chelz> Athyria: then deleting all the old partitions and installing ubuntu into the free space. you can resize windows in gparted at that point if you want to, also
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  theres a dozen ways to install themes... start from the beginning and tell the channel in details what you are doing. personally I use the 'gnome-art-ng' program and isntall them to my users .theme directory. I DONT install them 'system wide' so I dont need root access
[08:35] <AbhiJit> uLinux, then try their forum or mailing list
[08:35] <ish_nitti> coolroot--, you switched your mouse to left handed?
[08:35] <chelz> coolroot--: those options chance depending on where you are right clicking
[08:35] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: disk corruption is what I've seen cited in other contexts... still relevant?
[08:36] <coolroot--> ish_nitti: nope!
[08:36] <xbonesx> well whatever is default for a ubuntu 9.04 install is what im using synaptic says gnome-theme-manager
[08:36] <chelz> coolroot--: do you remember where your cursor (the white arrow pointer) was when you right clicked yesterday to get those options?
[08:36] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple for a usb drive, not really. if they corrupt its generaly the entire thing
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  and how are you truing to install these themes? where are they comming from?
[08:36] <chelz> xbonesx: gksudo synaptic-theme-manager
[08:36] <Athyria> chelz - I already did that. o_O
[08:36] <AbhiJit> uLinux, 105 users there
[08:37] <chelz> Athyria: you sure stuff is the way you want it? did you hit "apply" in gparted?
[08:37] <ish_nitti> Anyone know why the Ubuntu Xchat2 package doesn't include sound for alerts? Or how i could get them?
[08:37] <chelz> Athyria: btw make sure you're not deleting stuff you want
[08:37] <Athyria> chelz - the old ubuntus went away just fine...
[08:37] <coolroot--> chelz: i still got my cursor...but i dont know what happnd...just now when i boot up i can't do the rightclick thingy...i can't find those options no more
[08:38] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/unetbootin/wiki/installmodes (full usb install info)
[08:38] <Athyria> chelz - But now the new ones aren T showing up on the grub anymore after the latest attempts to install one.
[08:38] <chelz> coolroot--: those options change depending on where the cursor (the white arrow pointer) is
[08:38] <chelz> !manual | coolroot--
[08:39] <Athyria> chelz - which is a problem.
[08:39] <greenmang0> hello friends, i have multiple printers of same make in different depts over same LAN.. i am trying to add the printer in my lab through cups webinterface, cups finds all 4 printers and displays their names, since all printers are of same make their names are same, how can i distinguish printer from my lab out of them?
[08:39] <greenmang0> of course all 4 printers have different ips but i can't see those ips on cups web interface
[08:39] <chelz> Athyria: when you install ubuntu it should install grub again. backup data you want, delete the old partitions, doubleclick on Install ubuntu
[08:39] <greenmang0> any help?
[08:39] <Jesdisciple> (I just noticed that Xchat has an Open Link in Opera option...  Kinda odd since Opera's not even recognized...)
[08:39] <chelz> Athyria: then for partitioning select "use free space"
[08:40] <chelz> greenmang0: renaming the printers "Printer-Lab01" or something would be good
[08:40] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis: figured it out, when i open synaptic package manager it required my password which gavethe desktop superuser priv and then i redownload the theme file and it worked
[08:40] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis: or maybe its cuz i typed 'gksudo program' in terminal... ??? idk
[08:41] <greenmang0> chelz: for that i will have to go to each dept and change the host name.. right?
[08:41] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis: either way tho i got it too work, ty
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  you use 'gksudo THEPROGRAMYOUWANTTORUNASROOT'   not 'programname' litterly
[08:41] <Athyria> chelz - aye, it does install grub again, but for some reason the old grub is still there. And using free space wouldn't work anyway because of another partition some idiot decided to put flat smack in the middle of the thing. *shifty eyes* But that's another matter.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> !manual | xbonesx
[08:42] <chelz> greenmang0: well you only do it once. depending on how the printers are shared
[08:42] <bill> s
[08:42] <greenmang0> chelz: yeah... that's right
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  you run the synaptic package manager as root.. correct... you have to be root or enter the root password to have the rights to install packages.
[08:42] <chelz> Athyria: you can move partitions around. make it so your partitions are all at the beginning or end of the disk. click and drag in GParted in the Ubuntu livecd
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  theres other ways to install themes on a per user basis.
[08:42] <bill> picocom escape character is C-a, what does this mean? I cant quit picocom
[08:43] <chelz> Athyria: make sure you're actually deleting the old partitions, ubuntu adds entries to the grub menu for other OSes it finds
[08:43] <Jonta> bill: C-a - Ctrl+a?
[08:43] <Athyria> chelz - while they have stuff on them? Say, windows? Without breaking the windows?
[08:43] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis: correct but i dont know if it worked becuz of the entering of the password for synaptic package manager or if its cuz i typed 'gksudo program' in the terminal.
[08:44] <chelz> Athyria: is windows in the middle of the disk?
[08:44] <bill> Jonta, thats what I thought as well
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  'gksudo program' would run 'program' as root.. what program did you run?
[08:44] <Athyria> chelz - ...maybe. *shifty eyes*
[08:44] <Jonta> bill: But an escape character can be something completely different
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  you could use 'gksudo synaptic'
[08:44] <UbuXubu> sup...
[08:44] <bill> tried many combinations
[08:44] <Ed_Money> during install how can i tell which partition is my windows partition
[08:45] <AbhiJit> Ed_Money, one tith fat fat16 fat32 or ntfs partition
[08:45] <AbhiJit> with*
[08:45] <Jonta> bill: Tried Ctrl+x ?
[08:45] <bill> oh
[08:45] <Jerk> hello everyone. i asked a question before, but I didn't get an answer adn had to sign off anyway, so i present it again: I used WUBI to download and install Ubuntu 10.04 desktop ed. now I have a dual-boot system, but when I choose Ubuntu my pc restarts abruptly. why is this?
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  the synaptic menu item is set up where it asks for the password. if you just run synapatic as a user.. it wont ask. and you can look. but  not install things
[08:45] <bill> lol yea got it
[08:45] <chelz> Athyria: eh well that's not exactly bad. as long as there's a decent amount of space on either side. you can move vista then "fix" it though: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-gparted-to-resize-your-windows-vista-partition/
[08:45] <bill> thanks jonta
[08:45] <UbuXubu> the huge graph in ubuntu will show it too u Ed_Money
[08:45] <bill> i didnt read the man page properly
[08:46] <Jonta> sure bill (googled "quitting picocom" (:
[08:46]  * AbhiJit is wondering if his is unique now!
[08:46] <AbhiJit> oh
[08:46] <AbhiJit> i mean nick*
[08:46] <Jonta> Hehe, they _can_ be confusing
[08:46] <AbhiJit> :D lol
[08:46] <UbuXubu> Ed_Money, i just did two windows/ubuntu dual boot installs
[08:46] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis: when i typed 'gksudo program' in terminal, thats all i typed nothing after it
[08:46] <Athyria> chelz - so how would that solve the whole grub not being overwritten problem?
[08:47] <xbonesx> so im guessing that typing the pass for getting into the synaptic package manager is what gave me the privs i needed to install the themes
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  if you used 'gksudo program' and did it EXACTLY like that with 'program' then you basically did nothing.. Understand?  program is not a valid 'command' name.
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> willis@cow:~$ program
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> program: command not found
[08:48] <chelz> Athyria: well i'd make sure that all the disks gparted sees have no partitions besides the windows partition, then if somehow grub isn't installed properly after a fresh install, we'll install grub manually from the livecd
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  if you do 'gksudo synaptic' then synaptic gets ran as 'root' - thats teh core of the whole sudo/gksudo thing.
[08:50] <Athyria> chelz - and if that fails?
[08:51] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis: what is the difference in the gksudo and sudo?
[08:51] <chelz> Athyria: only do the vista repair if it won't boot after being moved. the gparted included with Lucid is quite new and i'm pretty sure doesn't have the issue that used to break vista
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  when using X apps use gksudo.
[08:51] <xbonesx> i know that if im running things from the desktop that i will prompted for the password...
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  when using console apps use sudo
[08:51] <chelz> Athyria: we'll if it fails when we try to install from a livecd, it'll output some error messages and we'll find out what those mean
[08:51] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: How to get to Parted Magic?  The manual isn't clear...
[08:51] <chelz> Athyria: make sure you have an internet connection on your laptop
[08:51] <coolroot--> how can i disable this password confirmation everytime my laptop goes unattended?
[08:52] <Wiesshund> Jesdisciple you wont need that part, your not splitting a windows drive etc
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> coolroot--:  its in the screensaver/power saver settings
[08:52] <chelz> coolroot--: System -> Preferences -> Screensaver
[08:52] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis: unlike windows, a program can be installed anywhere and executed, correct? or at least for most programs...
[08:52] <AbhiJit> coolroot--, its setting in screensaver taht when resume form screensaver ask for passworde disable that setting
[08:52] <Jesdisciple> I think it's the same scenario, just with linux instead of Windows
[08:52] <Athyria> chelz - it's not going to work. I just know it.
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  depends on the program.. same goes for windows... you can make 'portable apps' for windows taht can go anywhere
[08:53] <AbhiJit>     ok
[08:53] <chelz> xbonesx: that really depends on the program. you're advised to use your package manager (synaptic, apt-get, etc) for everything. if you really want to install your own stuff you should look into stuff like checkinstall
[08:53] <rana> hello every one
[08:53] <AbhiJit> bye
[08:53] <chelz> Athyria: won't know until you try
[08:53] <Jonta> rana: Hello rana
[08:53] <rana> can any budy help to configur willowng
[08:54] <xbonesx> Dr_Willis, chelz: thanks for the info!
[08:54] <coolroot--> thanx
[08:54] <chelz> xbonesx: make sure to read that ubuntu manual!!
[08:54] <Jesdisciple> Wiesshund: am I correct to be reading from "Making a full, standard hard disk install if you can't use a Live USB"?
[08:54] <Jonta> rana: Write your question clearly, and somebody might be able to help you
[08:54] <xbonesx> chelz: i know its so long tho lol
[08:54] <chelz> xbonesx: read only a bit of it a day then :)
[08:54] <Jerk> was I too abrupt with my question?
[08:54] <xbonesx> chelz: and is there on out their specifically for 9.04?
[08:55] <xbonesx> one*
[08:55] <bullgard4_> !punctuation | tensorpudding
[08:55] <Jesdisciple> Jerk: I think you should ask again
[08:55] <Jesdisciple> if you don't get a response, no one knows
[08:55] <chelz> xbonesx: yeah but support for 9.04 ends in Oct of this year. so you should probably think about upgrading.
[08:56] <rana> i want to configure WillowNG a content filter application
[08:56] <Jerk> Jesdisciple: I do that and I'll get a growl from a bot
[08:57] <chelz> xbonesx: actually it seems the main official ubuntu manual is only for Lucid atm. there are other newbie guides for older versions of ubuntu out there though
[08:57] <xbonesx> chelz: what would be the recommended version?
[08:57] <Jesdisciple> Jerk: you don't have to copy-paste...
[08:57] <Jesdisciple> shorter might be better in this case
[08:57] <rana> hello
[08:57] <rana> plz help
[08:57] <chelz> xbonesx: Lucid 10.04, you can upgrade right now if you want.
[08:57] <chelz> xbonesx: 9.04 -> 9.10 -> 10.04
[08:58] <xbonesx> chelz: would i have to bother messing with any changes, ive already made?
[08:58] <xbonesx> chelz: themes, programs. drivers etc...
[08:58] <chelz> xbonesx: depends on the changes. stuff like themes carry over.
[08:58] <Jerk> Jesdisciple: all right
[08:58] <rana>  i want to configure WillowNG a content filter application
[08:59] <rana>  i want to configure WillowNG a content filter application
[08:59] <rana> pllllllzzzzzzzz helpp
[08:59] <xbonesx> chelz: would it be recommended to download full distro and do a fresh install?
[08:59] <Jerk> when I boot froM Ubuntu, mys system reboots automatically
[08:59] <Jerk> why is that?
[08:59] <chelz> xbonesx: drivers should upgrade fine, almost all programs are fine, but there is a chance for some issues. to avoid upgrade issues you can try sticking with LTS versions of ubuntu, which are supported for much longer than non-LTS versions of ubuntu. Lucid is one such LTS release.
[08:59] <bazhang> !helpme | rana
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> rana:  you ahve checked its docs?
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> !info willowng
[09:00] <xbonesx> chelz: would it be recommended to download full distro and do a fresh install?
[09:00] <rana> no docs
[09:00] <bazhang> Jerk, you said dual boot; this is a wubi install though
[09:00] <Jesdisciple> Jerk: Only other thing I know to suggest is the forums.
[09:00] <chelz> xbonesx: some people will tell you to reinstall, but i've always found that to be much more of a headache than anything. i've personally only upgraded, new installs talk so long
[09:00] <Jesdisciple> they are a bit more reliable
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> rana:  check its homepage, also check in /usr/share/docs    If theres no docs.. then  you may want to find other solutions.. also check teh package manager to see what files it installed.. there may be some doc files somewhere
[09:00] <xbonesx> chelz: is there much of a difference in the desktop?
[09:01] <chelz> Jerk: you might try uninstalling the wubi thing and just installing ubuntu as a dual-boot normally
[09:01] <xbonesx> between 9.04 and 10.04
[09:01] <rana> ok
[09:01] <xbonesx> chelz: is it still gnome based?
[09:01] <Jesdisciple> brb
[09:01] <Jerk> bazhang: yeah, I thought dual boot meant that when i started my pc, it would ask me if I wanted to boot from ubuntu or WinXP...
[09:01] <chelz> xbonesx: there are some new features and stuff. you can get all that info in the release notes. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/ReleaseNotes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes
[09:02] <chelz> xbonesx: yes it is
[09:02] <Jesdisciple> Jerk: it does
[09:02] <Jerk> chez: actually i am back from that
[09:02] <Jerk> Jesdiciple: So, that's EXACTLy what's happening
[09:02] <xbonesx> chelz: which one do you recommended; karmickoala or lucidlynx?
[09:03] <Jesdisciple> Jerk: (Well, it doesn't have to be Linux & Windows, but that's most typical.)
[09:03] <Jesdisciple> Jerk: But the restart doesn't make sense
[09:03] <chelz> xbonesx: to upgrade to Lucid 10.04 you need to upgrade to the version (which is Karmic 9.10) inbetween the version you're currently on (Jaunty 9.04)
[09:04] <Jerk> Jesdiciple: I know.....what to do then?
[09:04] <rana> sorry no mome page for that application
[09:04] <chelz> xbonesx: LTS ("Long Term Support") releases can upgrade directly to eachother. Hardy 8.04 can upgrade directly to Lucid 10.04
[09:04] <chelz> xbonesx: this is short, read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:04] <Athyria> chelz - should there be a partition that doesn't show up anywhere that just happens to have been deleted that just happens to still be there that just happens to look exactly like the one the grub came from?
[09:05] <xbonesx> chelz: im going to download a full version and to an install, do you know where to get 10.04?
[09:05] <Jesdisciple> Jerk: What is Wubi exactly?
[09:05] <stefania> ciao
[09:05] <xbonesx> do*
[09:05] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContentInternetFiltering/Willow rana
[09:05] <Jesdisciple> Jerk: I'm not familiar with that...
[09:05] <chelz> Athyria: there shouldn't be any partitions that you don't want around anymore. delete it in gparted, hit apply, then close and reopen gparted to see if it's still there
[09:05] <Jesdisciple> Jerk: duh *searches*
[09:05] <coolroot--> xbonesx: better to do it on terminal....from my experience on the update manager...i get mostly errors...and i dunno....but in terminal...u can go smoothly...u'll just have to wait until it's done.....
[09:06] <Jesdisciple> Jerk: Oh yeah
[09:06] <chelz> xbonesx: ok, just so you know, you have to do all the tweaks you've done so far again. also make sure to back up any data you don't want to lose.
[09:06] <xbonesx> chelz: ok understood
[09:06] <xbonesx> chelz: link for 10.04 release plz?
[09:06] <Athyria> chelz - It doesn't show up in gparted. Yet... somehow... I just mounted it.
[09:06] <Jesdisciple> Jerk: I remember it now, and I know it's not recommended
[09:06] <chelz> xbonesx: http://www.ubuntu.com/ - click on the "download ubuntu" button. using torrents is preferred but you can use the normal links if you want.
[09:06] <Athyria> I'm so confused.
[09:07] <Jesdisciple> Jerk: You might try to get a Live CD or Live USB
[09:07] <xbonesx> chelz: i dont want the beta
[09:07] <Jesdisciple> Jerk: Or you can use unetbootin as I'm in the process of doing
[09:07] <chelz> xbonesx: 10.04 is not the beta
[09:07] <coolroot--> xbonesx: it's not a good thing to install fresh copy of 10.04 lucid...u'll just end up regretting to what u've done...u'll have to config all back to zero..if u'll just have to upgrade it...nothing much change except u'll have to do those tweaks....
[09:07] <xbonesx> chelz: that download button will get me the 10.4 one?
[09:08] <chelz> xbonesx: yep!
[09:08] <chelz> Athyria: in the upper right of gparted there are two arrows, one pointing up and one pointing down, this is how to select between the harddisks and disk devices gparted sees
[09:08] <Jesdisciple> Jerk: But I'm really not the best person to be giving advice, I'm just following a lead that was given by someone else
[09:08] <xbonesx> coolroot--: its ok i havent done much tweaking, i only installed 9.04 like yesterday or the day efore
[09:08] <xbonesx> before*
[09:08] <uLinux> later
[09:08] <maitrey> hi guys, question. How is the situation around ati drivers, did it improve a bit with 10.04? I have ati hd 4350.
[09:09] <xbonesx> coolroot--: worst thing will be getting my wifi card working again but i have that figured out now so it will be a breeze...
[09:09] <chelz> Athyria: if you have internet access in your livecd environment, please pastebin the output of:  sudo fdisk -l
[09:09] <chelz> xbonesx: your wifi card might "just work". you'll know when you boot the livecd
[09:09] <babtux> hi
[09:09] <Jonta> babtux: hi babtux
[09:09] <coolroot--> xbonesx: that's what i'm talkin...but as far as u know how to handle then...go on! #ubuntu is the best place if u're out of track hehehe
[09:10] <chelz> xbonesx: once you have lots of data in ubuntu you'll probably find it's a lot easier to just upgrade than backup everything and do a new install each time, especially since there aren't many clear gains
[09:10] <chelz> !hi | babtux
[09:11] <xbonesx> chelz: i have 64bit system is this 'ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent' what i want to get?
[09:11] <chelz> babtux: for ubuntu iran, fyi, #ubuntu-ir
[09:11] <babtux> my graphic is nvidia geforce 7600gt i installed driver from nvidia but now why quality of most pictures is very low also most of fonts what do  i have to do?
[09:11] <coolroot--> for me i can't make my built-in wifi card work...wew...still dunno...hehe...i got a dell 1545 inspiron...up until now i can't work with a wifi...not unless if u'll use my vbox ubuntu on my win7...haha
[09:11] <chelz> xbonesx: yes, you can run 32bit if you want though, you don't have to get the 64bit.
[09:12] <coolroot--> 32-bit works fine
[09:12] <xbonesx> coolroot--: i figured that card out want me to tell you how
[09:12] <xbonesx> coolroot--: i have the 1505 one
[09:12] <coolroot--> mind to tell me how then?
[09:12] <xbonesx> coolroot--: PM easy
[09:12] <coolroot--> just paste it all on how to config then
[09:12] <coolroot--> but for now
[09:12] <chelz> coolroot--: are you on lucid?
[09:12] <coolroot--> chelz yup
[09:12] <coolroot--> xbonesx just do first ur thing
[09:13] <coolroot--> we still got more time for my wifi to work
[09:13] <coolroot--> :)
[09:13] <Shvonder> people what is the correct way to install a theme from gnome-look.org. I can't do it.
[09:13] <coolroot--> i can still wait
[09:13] <xbonesx> coolroot--: its kool i have to wait for it too download, i can help you in the meantime...
[09:13] <chelz> Shvonder: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Theme (tab) -> Install... (button)
[09:14] <coolroot--> but im still busy for now..hehe..i'm at work
[09:14] <coolroot--> hehe
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> Shvonder:  depends on what the theme is for also.. you can drag/drop the archives onto that appearance-theme tool   for most of the theme parts
[09:14] <coolroot--> in 2mins i'll be back again for work it's just my breaktime for now
[09:14] <chelz> xbonesx: please keep discussion that might be useful to other ubuntu users in the main channel and not pm
[09:14] <coolroot--> hehe
[09:14] <xbonesx> coolroot--: just a quick question, whats the bcm43xx number for that card???
[09:14] <Athyria> chelz - urg.
[09:14] <chelz> coolroot--: you gotta figure out how to stay on irc while working
[09:15] <chelz> Athyria: pastebin?
[09:15] <xbonesx> chelz: ya ok sure, i was thinking about submitting a tut on how to get those cards to work properly
[09:15] <Shvonder> chelz: Dr_Willis that isn't work for me. (there is started Compiz & emerald)
[09:15] <chelz> xbonesx: sure. the ubuntu forums have a great place for that stuff
[09:15] <xbonesx> chelz: k when i get a chance i will
[09:16] <chelz> Shvonder: are you on Ubuntu Lucid? or xubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:17] <chelz> for the people i'm helping - i'll brb in a sec
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> Shvonder:  emerald has its own theme stuff.. and gui tool.. personally.. i wouldent bother with emerald any more
[09:17] <Athyria> chelz - I plead incompetence.
[09:17] <babtux> my graphic is nvidia geforce 7600gt i installed driver from nvidia but now why quality of most pictures is very low also most of fonts what do  i have to do?
[09:18] <Jonta> !repeat
[09:18] <Shvonder> chelz: I use ubuntu 9.10
[09:19] <alex_718> need tech support
[09:19] <Jonta> alex_718: Just post your question
[09:20] <dooglus> oh, I have another question...
[09:20] <dooglus> there's a dial on the front of this laptop that turns the volume up and down.  I keep knocking it accidentally, so would like to disable it completely
[09:21] <alex_718> regarding sound issue in ubuntu 10.04. No sound at all, but think has to do with my graphic card ATI HD Radeon 4200, when OS uses it as sound output.Need sound.
[09:21] <dooglus> I've removed the binding in 'keyboard shortcuts', but it still affects the mplayer volume.  is there any way to stop that?
[09:23] <chelz> back
[09:24] <chelz> Athyria: that's no defense! never give up, never surrender!
[09:24] <dooglus> wb
[09:24] <chelz> ty
[09:24] <dooglus> now answer my question, dammit!  ;)
[09:24] <chelz> dooglus: hmm well something is recognizing the input from that dial. you have to find it and destroy it
[09:25] <babtux> my graphic is nvidia geforce 7600gt i installed driver from nvidia but now why quality of most pictures is very low also most of fonts what do i have to do?	
[09:25] <Jonta> !repeat babtux
[09:25] <dooglus> chelz: I have an input.conf for mplayer that defines all the inputs - '9' turns the volume down, and there's a line: "9 volume -1" making that happen, etc.
[09:26] <sheepz> anyone got any ideas? http://superuser.com/questions/189360/aptitude-package-manager-randomly-opens-up-nicotine
[09:26] <babtux> Jonta: my graphic is nvidia geforce 7600gt i installed driver from nvidia but now why quality of most pictures is very low also most of fonts what do i have to do?	
[09:26] <dooglus> I changed all the 'volume' lines to 'ignore', but the dial still affects the volume, so I'm lost now
[09:26] <alex_718> Sound issue in ubuntu 10.04. No sound at all, but think has to do with my graphic card ATI HD Radeon 4200, when OS uses it as HDMI sound output.
[09:26] <Jonta> babtux: Type "!repeat" into this channel
[09:26] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Did you ever get Ubuntu installed successfully?
[09:27] <Athyria> chelz - Too late. But thank  you for trying... at least this isn t as far gone as the time my filesystem riddled itself with holes, anyhow.
[09:27] <babtux> !repeat
[09:27] <babtux> Jonta: !repeat
[09:28] <dooglus> sheepz: while nicotine is running, open a terminal, and do: ps -Hef > ps.txt
[09:28] <dooglus> sheepz: then pastebin the ps.txt file
[09:28] <dooglus> ok?
[09:28] <sheepz> k
[09:28] <el_nin> holaaa
[09:28] <Jonta> babtux: Read ubottu's message to you (:
[09:28] <dooglus> sheepz: I mean while nicotine is running as started by aptitude, of course...
[09:28] <ReadPlease> can anyone tell me how to increase default font size in terminal from terminal?
[09:29] <sheepz> ok, that will be a little bit more difficult to reproduce
[09:29] <ReadPlease> google, vim, linux, bash, and vim haven't been any help, so far. XD
[09:29] <sheepz> i'll try, dooglus
[09:29] <tensorpudding> ReadPlease: Have you tried the Edit menu?
[09:29] <ReadPlease> There's no edit menu in my terminal.
[09:29] <tensorpudding> Which terminal is it?
[09:29] <Jonta> depends if that can change default tho
[09:29] <ReadPlease> it's the one that's built into the mini cd.
[09:30] <dooglus> ReadPlease: can you run 'gconf-editor'?
[09:30] <Jonta> ReadPlease: You mean live-cd?
[09:30] <Jonta> Just checking
[09:30] <ReadPlease> mini.iso installed, not live.
[09:30] <Jonta> Ah
[09:30] <Guest75910> good day
[09:30] <chelz> Athyria: eh, well i would help as i can, out of curiosity, what's the issue you're currently encountering?
[09:30] <dooglus> ReadPlease: oh, so not a gnome-terminal, but a console?
[09:31] <dooglus> ReadPlease: like the whole screen is just text?
[09:31] <tensorpudding> dooglus: i don't think you can change the font size in the terminal
[09:31] <dooglus> tensorpudding: I'm not sure what mini.iso is - are you?
[09:31] <tensorpudding> err, console
[09:31] <tensorpudding> i don't know either
[09:32] <tensorpudding> but "built in" seems to imply that it's the console
[09:32] <dooglus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[09:32] <Athyria> chelz - the hard drive has too many partitions for the number of partitions it has. Which brings me back to I give up.
[09:33] <chelz> Athyria: well do you need or want all of them? can't they just be combined and/or deleted?
[09:33] <Athyria> chelz - as far as gparted is concerned, the odd one isn't even there... so hell if I know.
[09:34] <dooglus> tensorpudding: you can specific vga= to the boot loader to get a different video mode, I think
[09:34] <ReadPlease> dooglus, yes.
[09:34] <ReadPlease> It's console only.
[09:34] <sheepz> dooglus: http://pastebin.com/jGM59Xf9
[09:34] <chelz> Athyria: did "sudo fdisk -l" (without the quotes) list it?
[09:35] <dooglus> ReadPlease: http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes talks about the various vga= values for different screen resolutions.  if you use a lower resolution, the text will be bigger
[09:35] <sheepz> ok, so I get a tree of which process start what?
[09:36] <sheepz> and check those?
[09:36] <Athyria> chelz - I m not sure. Either that or the contents of the dev directory were what revealed it, though.
[09:36] <dooglus> ReadPlease: try vga=768 for example.  that should make the text big
[09:36] <sheepz> ok, looks like the updatemenus command triggers nicotine
[09:36] <ReadPlease> i'll bsee if i can
[09:36] <chelz> Athyria: did you ever get internet access on your livecd'd computer?
[09:37] <dooglus> sheepz: right, it should be indented to show what ran what
[09:37] <ReadPlease> Is that going to cause a conflict if I am using a virtual machine?
[09:37] <dooglus> ReadPlease: I think you'll need to do something as soon as you boot, to set the vga= option - in the boot loader or some such.  do you see a grub screen?
[09:38] <chelz> ReadPlease: any reason why you're using the minimal cd over say the alternate or desktop cd?
[09:38] <dooglus> sheepz: is that how it's written?  "updatemenus"?
[09:38] <sheepz> nope
[09:38] <sheepz> sorry
[09:38] <Athyria> chelz - not under livecd.
[09:38] <sheepz> update-menus
[09:38] <sheepz> hmm, dunno where its conf file is though
[09:38] <chelz> Athyria: say you were going to connect to the internet with your vista, what would you use?
[09:39] <Athyria> chelz - same thing as I'd use with a ubuntu with the drivers.
[09:39] <chelz> Athyria: which would be?
[09:39] <dooglus> sheepz: it's certainly weird that it would run nicotine
[09:39] <sheepz> yep
[09:39] <Athyria> chelz - wired or wireless?
[09:40] <chelz> Athyria: which do you use more often?
[09:40] <dooglus> sheepz: google is amazing, eh?  I just found your pastebin that you did 6 minutes ago...
[09:41] <dooglus> sheepz: didn't see you already pasted the link to it...
[09:41] <Athyria> chelz - either...
[09:41] <sheepz> haha
[09:41] <sabgenton>  i want to modprobe loop max_part=63
[09:41] <sabgenton> but it looks like loop is a builtin
[09:41] <chelz> Athyria: so say when you plug in an ethernet cable, what would Network Manager say?
[09:42] <sabgenton> as it doesn't show in lsmod
[09:42] <sabgenton>  can I achive this?
[09:42] <Athyria> From the live cd, nothing, since it cannot find the network card. It's apparently a problem with this computer.
[09:43] <etherealite> hey so is it better to mount partitions using the UUID?
[09:43] <chelz> Athyria: same with the wifi card?
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> etherealite:  yes
[09:43] <dooglus> sheepz: what's the name of the package with nicotine++ in it?
[09:44] <chelz> etherealite: in order of best to worst: uuid, label, sdaX
[09:44] <sheepz> nicotine
[09:44] <etherealite> Dr_Willis how do I get the UUID of my partitions?
[09:44] <freeast> dsfsf
[09:44] <chelz> sabgenton: that is a good question. i'm googling around but not coming up with much. i would like to know the answer though
[09:44] <chelz> !cn | freeast
[09:45] <dooglus> sheepz: ok
[09:45] <sabgenton> chelz:  recompile your kernel probabley :(
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> !uuid
[09:45] <freeast> #ubuntu-cn
[09:45] <Athyria> chelz - it's the same thing on this thing.
[09:45] <chelz> sabgenton: maybe, but i'm not sure
[09:45] <ytaews> I'm following this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449) guide and I get to the general help step 3, where it asks to find which ALSA driver is appropriate for my soundcard, but the link it gives doesn't work, how do I find which driver I need?
[09:45] <xbonesx> how do you change the splash screen in ubuntu 9.04?
[09:45] <zetheroo> trying to run Openshot and suddenly it's doing this in the terminal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/495772/
[09:45] <dooglus> sheepz: what happens if you run: sh -c /usr/share/menu/nicotin
[09:45] <dooglus> sheepz: (with an 'e' on the end, sorry)
[09:46] <xbonesx> i have this file 'Splash-DarkCleanLinux.png'.
[09:46] <chelz> Athyria: that is pretty tricky. do you have a usb stick around you could use?
[09:46] <sheepz> surely it opens up nicotine
[09:47] <dooglus> sheepz: is this ubuntu 10.04?
[09:47] <sheepz> yes, dooglus
[09:47] <Athyria> chelz - I just realised... I'm going about this all wrong. gparted may not find the thing, but it was probably partitioned with the windows one. So...
[09:47] <dooglus> sheepz: can you paste the 1 line of output from: ls -l /usr/share/menu/nicotine
[09:48] <sheepz> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8189 2010-02-18 05:45 /usr/share/menu/nicotine
[09:48] <chelz> zetheroo: are you on karmic or lucid?
[09:48] <chelz> Athyria: if the partition is there, gparted should see it
[09:48] <dooglus> sheepz: that's weird.  you should reinistall nicotine I think
[09:49] <sheepz> weird in what sense?
[09:49] <dooglus> sheepz: mine is tiny: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 254 2009-11-07 01:59 /usr/share/menu/nicotine
[09:49] <zetheroo> chelz: lucid
[09:49] <dooglus> sheepz: and looks like this: http://pastebin.com/W5xQQdJd
[09:49] <chelz> zetheroo: did you install any openshot stuff from a ppa?
[09:49] <dooglus> sheepz: it's 8189 bytes long, and executable.  it should be 254 bytes, and not
[09:49] <sheepz> hmm
[09:49] <dooglus> sheepz: can you pastebin the file?
[09:50] <sheepz> whatversion are you running?
[09:50] <zetheroo> chelz: let me check
[09:50] <sheepz> it's a python script
[09:50] <zetheroo> chelz: if so?
[09:50] <dooglus> sheepz: 10.04
[09:50] <chelz> zetheroo: well i have a command that'll work either way
[09:50] <sheepz> of nicotine I mean
[09:50] <dooglus> sheepz: try: ls -l /usr/share/menu/n*
[09:50] <sheepz> ,
[09:50] <sheepz> there's nano and nautilus
[09:50] <dooglus> sheepz: you should see all the files are around 200 bytes long.  your nicotine one is 8000 though
[09:50] <zetheroo> chelz: looks like I got it from the main repos
[09:50] <chelz> zetheroo: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libcairo2/lucid frei0r-plugins
[09:51] <dooglus> sheepz: see the numbers after 'root root' and before the dates?
[09:51] <chelz> zetheroo: alright. that should fix the issue i think.
[09:51] <dooglus> sheepz: that's the file sizes
[09:51] <sheepz> yeah, I get it :D
[09:51] <Athyria> chelz - it didn't, though. Neither did the file browsers and whatnot, but anyhow. It's solved now. Good old kill everything methods...
[09:51] <sheepz> but is that the contents of the file you pasted?
[09:51] <dooglus> sheepz: that's right
[09:51] <zetheroo> chelz: ok ...
[09:51] <sheepz> because mine is totally different
[09:51] <dooglus> sheepz: what's the contents of yours?
[09:51] <sheepz> a whole blown python script
[09:51] <sheepz> i'll paste it
[09:51] <chelz> Athyria: huh interesting. well move windows then install ubuntu. :)
[09:52] <dooglus> sheepz: right.  I've no idea why - it's meant to be just the details about the menu entry for running nicotine
[09:52] <zetheroo> chelz: nope ... still get Seg fault
[09:52] <ashwin> hey anyone well versed with qt-octave ?
[09:52] <XuMuK> Hi there! Could somebody tell me how to add some command on the boot line? Thanks
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> XuMuK:  to do what exacly?
[09:52] <sheepz> dooglus: http://pastebin.com/5aaVz8H2
[09:53] <sheepz> maybe i'll just replace it with yours?
[09:53] <XuMuK> Dr_Willis, it's about acpi on acer...
[09:53] <chelz> zetheroo: sudo apt-get install frei0r-plugins
[09:53] <Athyria> chelz - I still need three ubuntu installs, so why move it? They can go all around or something. Anyhoo.
[09:53] <dooglus> sheepz: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall nicotine" I think
[09:53] <zetheroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/495774/
[09:53] <chelz> Athyria: you need three?
[09:53] <Athyria> chelz - Yes. For... reasons.
[09:53] <zetheroo>  chelz: frei0r-plugins is already the newest version.
[09:53] <zetheroo> frei0r-plugins set to manually installed.
[09:53] <ashwin> Anyone know why in qt_octave I keep getting undefined at line 22 when the code is just 3 lines long ?
[09:54] <XuMuK> Dr_Willis, I need to add this 'acpi_apic_instance=2' at boot...
[09:54] <steven> how do i get my web cam to work i just installed two days ago
[09:54] <dooglus> sheepz: did you install it from somewhere other than the official repos?
[09:54] <sabgenton> chelz: any revelations?
[09:54] <Saket> hey guys i running lucid and it is not detecting my broadcom wifi driver
[09:54] <steven> its a dv4-2169r
[09:54] <sheepz> yes, dooglus
[09:54] <sheepz> from the site
[09:54] <Athyria> chelz - okay, I deleted that. I definitely deleted that. Why is that still there?!
[09:54] <sheepz> because the one in repos was crashing
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> XuMuK:  edit /etc/default/grub
[09:54] <dooglus> sheepz: I guess that's the problem then.  you can install it from aptitude
[09:54] <dooglus> sheepz: oh, I see
[09:54] <Jordan_U> Saket: Are you offered anythin to install by System > Adminstration > Hardware Drivers?
[09:54] <dooglus> sheepz: I didn't use it for years now
[09:55] <Saket> hey guys, how can i make my lucid to detect the drivers?
[09:55] <TomassoSK> Hi all, I have problem with framebuffer in lucid, I have kernel 2.6.32 and when I wrote to grub higher resolution, I have no screen when kernel boots.
[09:55] <steven> i am running ubuntu 10.04 and thats the last thing to fix
[09:55] <XuMuK> Dr_Willis, and where exactly should I put it there?
[09:55] <chelz> Athyria: boot to a livecd, do "sudo fdisk -l | tee ~/Desktop/fdisk.txt" (without the quotes) then copy it to a usb flashdrive, then plug the flashdrive into the computer you're on now and pastebin it
[09:55] <Saket> Jordan_U: nope, nothing is shown
[09:55] <Athyria> chelz - It's hopeless. It's definitely hopeless. I'ma go do something less futile. Toodles.
[09:55] <chelz> sabgenton: not just yet
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | XuMuK
[09:56] <dennis_> can anyone help me with this error im getting while trying to install an app: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6 (>= 2.11) ... but when I check package manager it says the latest version is 2.10.1 ?
[09:56] <dooglus> sheepz: so the answer to your question of why it's running nicotine is that you installed a buggy nicotine package which has a python script where the menu file should be...
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> XuMuK:  theres some default entry that gets adeed to the end of every kernel line in that config. You want to add it there. and rerun update-grub
[09:56] <chelz> haha wow that was a waste
[09:56] <chelz> sabgenton: not yet
[09:56] <jrib> dennis_: what exactly are you attempting to install?
[09:56] <chelz> zetheroo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openshot/+bug/617469
[09:56] <jrib> !away > macode
[09:56] <coz_> dennis_,  which applicatoin is this?
[09:56] <dennis_> im trying to install Xplico
[09:56] <matej> anyone know of good shoutcast radio app that would let me save songs that I like? I use Exaile but it won't let me do that :(
[09:56] <coz_> dennis_, ok and is this from the repository?
[09:57] <XuMuK> Dr_Willis, ok, thanks!
[09:57] <dennis_> no its off the web
[09:57] <coz_> dennis_,  do you have alink to this application
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> matej:  streamtuner/tunapie/streamripper can save streams.. but they may not do it exactly how you like.
[09:57] <Jordan_U> Saket: What is the card's PCI-ID? (explanation on how to find it here: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Known_PCI_devices )
[09:57] <Saket> Jordan_U: when i tried to see the hardware drivers by running the live cd of lucid i got to see the drivers as broadcom b43, broadcom sta
[09:58] <dennis_> coz: http://www.xplico.org/download
[09:58] <sheepz> dooglus: guess so, a bit weird that this behavior ensues even though I changed the config file
[09:58] <sheepz> with yours
[09:58] <matej> Yeah, I want it to work like old analogue radios did it, just more modern :)
[09:58] <jrib> dennis_: please pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy libc6
[09:58] <Jordan_U> Saket: Can you connect to the internet via ethernet temporarily?
[09:58] <coz_> dennis_,  ok did you download the ubuntu 10.04 package?
[09:58] <chelz> sabgenton: what do you get from:  sudo modprobe -r loop && sudo modprobe loop max_part=63
[09:58] <dennis_> coz: im on ubunto 9.10 and downloaded that package
[09:58] <Saket> Jordan_U: nope, even the ethernet is not working
[09:58] <coz_> ah ok
[09:59] <coz_> dennis_,  ah ok
[09:59] <dooglus> sheepz: did you build it from the .tar.gz file yourself?  or did you find a .deb somewhere?
[09:59] <jrib> dennis_: well you can't use it on 9.10....
[09:59] <sheepz> dooglus: I think it was a deb
[09:59] <dooglus> sheepz: at http://nicotine.thegraveyard.org/#download I'm not seeing any .deb package
[09:59] <sheepz> don't remember building
[09:59] <dennis_> jrib why?
[09:59] <sabgenton> chelz: is that a website on mounting lvm?
[09:59] <Mugambo> my cd/dvd drive is not working properly in ubutnu 10.04 , what i should do now ?
[09:59] <jrib> dennis_: because it's for 10.04.  Isn't that what the site says?
[09:59] <dennis_> jriib there are versions for ubuntu 10.04 and 9.10 (scroll down)
[09:59] <Jordan_U> Saket: Is your ethernet card listed at all in "ifconfig"?
[10:00] <coz_> dennis_,   ok this is a .deb package  open a terminal   cd to it's location   sudo dpkg -i  nameofpackage   if the erros occure try   sudo apt-get install -f
[10:00] <sheepz> dooglus: that's the old version
[10:00] <sheepz> http://nicotine-plus.sourceforge.net/
[10:00] <chelz> sabgenton: yes. i'm curious if loading the module would work, even if lsmod doesn't list it
[10:00] <jrib> dennis_: are you using the version for 9.10...?
[10:00] <sabgenton> chelz: and it won't work cause loop is not comipled as a modual
[10:00] <dennis_> jrib: yes
[10:00] <jrib> dennis_: what exactly did you download?
[10:00] <Saket> Jordan_U: i followed the instructions in the readme file when u download the 32 bit version of the driver but still nothing works
[10:00] <chelz> sabgenton: what do you get from    sudo modprobe loop max_part=63
[10:01] <Saket> Jordan_U: yes, i get to see the Auto eth0 when i do ifconfig
[10:01] <sabgenton> chelz: if the site is http://www.thegibson.org/blog/archives/467  I just happend to be folloing it when this problem occurred
[10:01] <sabgenton> lol
[10:01] <dennis_> jrib : the "Ubuntu 9.10 package"
[10:01] <jrib> dennis_: there's more than one.
[10:01] <coz_> dennis_,  make sure you download the .deb package
[10:01] <sabgenton> chelz: FATAL: Module loop not found.
[10:01] <dennis_> jrib: oh the most recent one, and yes the .deb package
[10:01] <jrib> dennis_: just tell us the name of the file.
[10:01] <dooglus> sheepz: still not finding .deb files?
[10:01] <Saket> Jordan_U: right now i am on my winblows
[10:02] <jrib> so we can stop playing guessing games...
[10:02] <sabgenton> chelz: as I said I think ubuntu distros comiple it as a modual
[10:02] <sabgenton> for some forsaken reason
[10:02] <dennis_> jrib: xplico_0.5.8_i386.deb
[10:02] <jrib> dennis_: k, now look at http://www.xplico.org/download.  That's a package for 10.04
[10:03] <Jordan_U> Saket: Assuming your network has a DHCP server, what happens when you run "sudo dhclient eth0"?
[10:03] <sabgenton> chelz: sory they compile it as a builtin
[10:03] <dennis_> jrib: i am on ubuntu 9.10
[10:03] <sabgenton> kernel built in
[10:03] <coz_> dennis_,  ok open a terminal  cd to that location of the file....  sudo dpkg -i xplico_0.5.8_i386.deb
[10:03] <jrib> dennis_: I know.  And you downloaded a package for 10.04.
[10:03] <sabgenton> I WISH the comipled it as a modual
[10:03] <coz_> dennis_,  if that error shows up again  do   sudo apt-get install -f  and let me know what happens
[10:03] <Jordan_U> Saket: It's incredibly uncommon for an ethernet card to not be supported out of the box.
[10:03] <jrib> dennis_: xplico_0.5.8_i386.deb is for 10.04, NOT 9.10
[10:03] <sheepz> dooglus: thanks so much
[10:04] <sabgenton> chelz: looks like older ubuntu verrsions   had it as a modual but not anymore
[10:04] <sheepz> dooglus: well, the weird behavior is gone at least
[10:04] <Saket> Jordan_U: i have not executed that command
[10:04] <dennis_> jrib: then their website is pointing to the wrong file? that is what is listed for 9.10
[10:04] <dooglus> sheepz: you're welcome.  I still don't really understand though...
[10:04] <Saket> Jordan_U: even i am amazed why my ethernet card is not being detected
[10:05] <Saket> i am on my windows machine so i have to reboot and chk with that command
[10:05] <chelz> sabgenton: well i found someone saying this: "howdy.  I installed ubuntu 10.04 server 64-bit last night and given they compile the loop module into the kernel I added loop.max_part=63 to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and ran sudo update-grub2.	after reboot I'm stuck at a grub prompt;  ls shows my partitions and ls (hd0,2)/ shows the root of my /boot partition but ls (hd0,2)/boot says "error: out of disk".	which I gather actually mea
[10:05] <chelz> ns that grub can't access that far into the filesystem.	what's the best path forward here?	"
[10:05] <jrib> dennis_: no, the website says: xplico version 0.5.6 has a 9.10 package.  Here is the directory: (sourceforge link).  Then you didn't click 0.5.6, you clicked something else.  All the packages are in the same directory
[10:05] <sabgenton> chelz: sudo modprobe -l |grep loop  doesn't return anything usefull either
[10:05] <Saket> Jordan_U: what is supposed to happen after executing that command?
[10:05] <chelz> sabgenton: you could try that but it might make your system unbootable, so you might try adding that line in grub itself. pressing e while highlighting the entry you want to edit
[10:05] <chelz> the edits are temporary btw
[10:05] <Saket> Jordan_U: tell me so that i can verify when i am on lucid
[10:06] <sabgenton> chelz: exellent I wil do that
[10:06] <Jordan_U> Saket: You should have a working connection after running that command.
[10:06] <dennis_> jrib: thanks lol..
[10:06] <jrib> dennis_: so either go with 10.04 or attempt to build the latest from source (http://wiki.xplico.org/doku.php?id=doing_a_deb_package)
[10:06] <Saket> Jordan_U: hmm, okay, any thing else u want me to try ?
[10:07] <chelz> sabgenton: this has some more stuff: http://www.google.com/search?q="loop.max_part%3D63"
[10:07] <dennis_> thanks guys, appreciated
[10:07] <chelz> sabgenton: so apparently that's how you pass options to nonmodule things
[10:07] <Jordan_U> Saket: I can give you instructions for getting your wireless working without an internet connection now if you'd prefer, but it's somewhat complicated.
[10:08] <xbonesx> chelz: what can i type to find out what version of grub i have?
[10:08] <sabgenton> chelz: yeah I never new that was possibal
[10:08] <chelz> xbonesx: grub --version
[10:08] <sabgenton> for builtins
[10:08] <chelz> xbonesx: --version and --help are pretty universal commands
[10:08] <Saket> hmm okay, i can giv you my email id, will you mail me the instructions?
[10:08] <Jordan_U> xbonesx: chelz: grub-install --version
[10:08] <chelz> sabgenton: yeah i've only added a few things to the linux line in grub and i don't think any were for builtins
[10:09] <Saket> Jordan_U: hmm okay, i can giv you my email id, will you mail me the instructions?
[10:09] <sabgenton> chelz: I thought if you compiled the thing as a builtin instead of a modual you were stuffed
[10:09] <chelz> oh that might be the way for grub2, i personally am still on grub1 ;/
[10:09] <chelz> sabgenton: heh well rebooting isn't exactly ideal in a lot of environments, but i guess it's better than recompiling
[10:09] <Jordan_U> chelz: grub-install --version works for both grub legacy and grub2 wheras grub2 has no "grub" command.
[10:10] <chelz> aha
[10:10] <chelz> Jordan_U: good to know, thanks
[10:10] <sabgenton> yeah unless you run gentoo or somthing
[10:10] <Qwert> chelz: Was the problem solved?
[10:10] <sabgenton> (and gentoos a  hastle)
[10:10] <Jordan_U> chelz: You're welcome.
[10:10] <xbonesx> chelz: grub (GNU GRUB 0.97), so i have grub1?
[10:10] <chelz> Qwert: no.. that person gave up pretty epically. wouldn't pastebin anything either. seemed really against solving their problem or some reason.
[10:11] <Qwert> Yes
[10:11] <Qwert> chelz: Oh..
[10:11] <chelz> xbonesx: grub2 was added in karmic, the version right after the one you have, which is jaunty
[10:11] <Jordan_U> Saket: Yes, give it to me in a PM to keep it from the email harvesting spam bots.
[10:11] <xbonesx> ok then
[10:11] <ashwin> Anyone can help me with octave ?
[10:11] <chelz> xbonesx: when you install lucid, it will install grub2
[10:11] <Saket> Jordan_U: okay
[10:12] <chelz> ashwin: the octave mailing list would probably be the best place for help. you can feel free to try in here though :)
[10:12] <shai> Hi :) I connected my cell phone to my Ubuntu 10.04 and while I'm able to send an SMS using this cmd (sudo gsmsendsms -d /dev/ttyACM0 +972xxxxxxxxx "test") ; I can't seem to do the same with Hebrew fonts. 1. When I swith the layout to Hebrew, the text is typed backwards in the command line. 2. The SMS does get sent out, but arrives in gibirish. Can anyone help me out with this?
[10:13] <xbonesx> ok
[10:13] <Qwert> ashwin: Yes..
[10:13] <chelz> shai: you need to make sure whatever you're doing supports unicode
[10:13] <ikonia> shai: I'd bet it is s simple bug/limitation you'll need to log a bug against the package for that
[10:13] <chelz> ashwin: please keep stuff in the main channel. and no problem. :)
[10:14] <shai> I see....
[10:14] <shai> too bad then...
[10:14] <Saket> Jordan_U: how can i send you a PM?
[10:14] <chelz> shai: it might work with what you have, you just need to use a special flag or something
[10:15] <Saket> is it /msg?
[10:15] <chelz> sabgenton: if you're doing that stuff now i'd be curious if that line worked for you
[10:15] <sabgenton> sorry haven't got there
[10:15] <Jordan_U> Saket: Type "/msg Jordan_U hi"
[10:15] <sabgenton> hold on
[10:15] <chelz> Saket: /query opens a new window/tab thing, /msg sends individual messages
[10:16] <chelz> sabgenton: sure, no rush
[10:16] <Saket> Jordan_U: did you get it?
[10:16] <Jordan_U> Saket: Yes.
[10:16] <sabgenton> heres another question how do i know what the loop modual = at the moment?
[10:16] <shai> chelz, yea... gsmsendsms doesn't have that option ..
[10:18] <chelz> shai: i found this "The GSM default alphabet is used for encoding. ASCII and Latin-1 characters that can not be encoded using the GSM default alphabet are converted to the GSM delta character (GSM code 16)."
[10:18] <shai> chelz, what does it mean?
[10:19] <chelz> shai: if hebrew characters aren't part of the GSM default alphabet, it can't send them.
[10:19] <chelz> shai: you might try asking on some hebrew-oriented ubuntu or linux mailing list
[10:19] <shai> Ok
[10:21] <rocket16> how can i limit the number of virtual consoles in Ubuntu 10.04?
[10:22] <Jordan_U> shai: The hebrew channel for Ubuntu support might be helpfull. /join #ubuntu-il
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> rocket16:  edit the proper /etc/init/ files.
[10:22] <rocket16> Dr_Willis: Thanks, :).
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> Qwert:  Huh? accept what file?
[10:23] <lixujia> Hello guys
[10:23] <chelz> !hi | lixujia
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> Qwert:  most irc clients have 'dcc' commands to send files. I never use the feature.
[10:24] <lixujia> HI chelz
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> Qwert:  pastebin is much easier to use
[10:24] <rocket16> Dr_Willis: Should I delete the number of tty3.conf to tty6.conf files, to take away 3rd to 6th consoles?
[10:24] <chelz> !cn | lixujia
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> rocket16:  or rename them to tty3.DONTSTART
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> rocket16:  but i dont see the reasons for it..
[10:24] <rocket16> Dr_Willis: Oh, thanks.
[10:25] <rocket16> Dr_Willis: Just for a possible small speed-boost.
[10:25] <lixujia> how are you doing chelz
[10:25] <chelz> rocket16: it's almost always better to rename than to delete, a lot easier to revert
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> rocket16:  i doubt if it will matter.
[10:25] <chelz> lixujia: pretty good. welcome. this channel is for support stuff only though. to talk casually please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:25] <rusivi> What package allows ./configure ?
[10:26] <ikonia> rusivi: none, configure is normally a script
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> I imagine the cpu used by a login: on a console.. is rather minimal.
[10:26] <ikonia> rusivi: what are you trying to build
[10:26] <lixujia> Oh thanks
[10:26] <rusivi> ikonia ty
[10:26] <rocket16> chelz: Sure, thanks.
[10:26] <chelz> rusivi: configure scripts are almost always bash or sh scripts and the ./ means "run the script in this directory" since random directories aren't in one's $PATH
[10:26] <coz_> hey guys I have a question.. on Edubuntu/lucid  and noticed an old problem from years ago...menus dont always update when installing new application...there used to be an update-menu command  apparenlty not there there now...any other solutions ?
[10:26] <rusivi> chelz: ty
[10:27] <chelz> coz_: System -> Preferences -> Main Menu
[10:28] <coz_> chelz,  yes I am aware of that and of course I can untick and re tick the missing app menu item but wanted a  command to refresh menus
[10:28] <Saket> Jordan_U: hey, i tried sudo dhclient eth0 but it was just giving outputs like ping
[10:28] <noren> hi all, i m having trouble connecting to internet from the newly created login how to chare internet here
[10:28] <dooglus> coz_: /usr/bin/update-menus
[10:28] <chelz> rusivi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[10:29] <coz_> doobeh,  ok let me try that
[10:29] <rusivi> chelz: ty
[10:29] <dooglus> doobeh ?
[10:29] <coz_> dooglus,   sorry that was for you  but  none avialable here
[10:29] <xbonesx> whats the keyboard shortcut to switch desktops?
[10:30] <coz_> dooglus,  /usr/bin/update-menus is not onboard
[10:30] <magnetron> xbonesx: ctrl+alt+left
[10:31] <No_one_at_all> chalcedny? chalcedony?
[10:31] <chelz> coz_: are you on lucid?
[10:31] <coz_> chelz,  yes  edubuntu / lucid
[10:32] <noren> i created a new user in ubuntu but cant access internet from it ?? how to solve please
[10:32] <chelz> coz_: make sure you have the menu packages installed
[10:32] <chelz> coz_: sudo apt-get --reinstall install menu
[10:33] <iShawnW> anyone have win7 and try to ftp/smb into 10.10? mine fails with path was not found even though its correct
[10:33] <xbonesx> magnetron: sweet thank you i love keyboard shortcuts, almost dont need a mouse
[10:33] <jrib> xbonesx: you'll probably enjoy  using a tiling window manager then
[10:33] <chelz> iShawnW: smb between linux and windows is an art
[10:33] <coz_> chelz,  ah ok menu wasnt installed  let me check now
[10:33] <chelz> coz_: that package contains the update-menus command
[10:33] <iShawnW> chelz: no its finger painting with xp
[10:33] <magnetron> xbonesx: also try ctrl+alt+shift+left/right, it moves the current window to another desktop
[10:33] <coz_> chelz,  never even corssed my mind...thanks  :)
[10:34] <chelz> coz_: i found that through http://packages.ubuntu.com/ at the bottom
[10:34] <iShawnW> win7 is a Special ED student
[10:34] <chelz> coz_: "Search the contents of packages"
[10:34] <chelz> coz_: i just left everything as default and put in the box:   update-menus
[10:35] <coz_> chelz,  understood    I will book mark that for later use  ...thanks again :)
[10:35] <xbonesx> magnetron: very nice is there a list of keyboard shorcuts somewhere?
[10:35] <sabgenton> chelz: worked a charm!
[10:35] <chelz> coz_: np thanks for using ubuntu
[10:35] <coz_> :)
[10:35] <r45c4l> hello, here is the o/p of my lspci of xubuntu 10.04, i am not able to connect it to my wifi
[10:35] <sabgenton> just stuck it on the boot line before quiet
[10:35] <chelz> sabgenton: great to hear! i was afraid it wouldn't boot or something. so that guide is working?
[10:35] <r45c4l> http://dpaste.com/245356/
[10:35] <coz_> chelz,  ok and thanks for using compiz and cairo-dock :)
[10:35] <r45c4l> can anyone help me please
[10:35] <sabgenton> chelz: I just edit the boot line in the boot menu at start up
[10:36] <Jordan_U> xbonesx: One of the popular tiling window managers is even called "ratpoison" :)
[10:36] <sabgenton> didn't grub-update
[10:36] <sabgenton> gurb2 still confuses me a bit
[10:36] <magnetron> xbonesx: it's in the keyboard shortcuts in the system menu
[10:36] <sabgenton> so just did the easy way
[10:37] <rocket16> If any contact is shown "not authorised", does this mean, that I have been blocked by that user? Or has he/she removed my contact? I suspect the same, but still, just for confirmation.
[10:37] <rocket16> In Pidgin.
[10:37] <chelz> r45c4l: are you on lucid?
[10:38] <chelz> sabgenton: ah, well that one line i found where you add it to the /etc/grub/default i would think would work fine
[10:38] <r45c4l> i am not sure i just know i am on xubuntu 10.04
[10:38] <chelz> r45c4l: oh right. yes 10.04 is lucid.
[10:38] <r45c4l> this is the o/p of lspci http://dpaste.com/245356/
[10:38] <chelz> rocket16: some IM networks require you to get approval from a person before you can add them to your buddy list or talk to them, i think that means that the request is pending
[10:38] <r45c4l> okk okk chelz i was not aware of that, thanks
[10:38] <sabgenton> chelz: well I only need a one shot anyways but yeah now I know how it works the worlds my oyster :)
[10:39] <Saket> Jordan_U: hey, did you mail me?
[10:39] <noren> my nm-applet not working when logged in with new user !!
[10:39] <chelz> r45c4l: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:markus-tisoft/rt3090
[10:39] <rocket16> Oh, thanks chelz. But till yesterday, he was there, and I added him as well. From today, I can see it to be "not authorised"
[10:39] <amanita_> Anyone using dual cpu servers (like HP Proliant) with standard Ubuntu here?
[10:39] <r45c4l> ok chelz let me try that
[10:39] <chelz> r45c4l: sudo apt-get install rt3090
[10:40] <chelz> rocket16: he might have removed you
[10:40] <rocket16> Thanks chelz.
[10:40] <chelz> r45c4l: do those in order
[10:40] <chelz> rocket16: i'm not sure though. you could try the support for the IM network you're using
[10:40] <r45c4l> ok chelz
[10:40] <Jordan_U> Saket: No, since you're here and dhclient eth0 failed I might as well just tell you (the instructions aren't that long).
[10:40] <Saket> Jordan_U: okay
[10:40] <rocket16> chelz: Thanks again.
[10:40] <Guest76361> I have a problem with empathy and {internal} microphone
[10:41] <Jordan_U> Saket: How comfortable are you with the terminal?
[10:41] <r45c4l> chelz, i am getting this on ur second command
[10:41] <r45c4l> r45c4l@h4ckb0x:~$  sudo apt-get install rt3090
[10:41] <r45c4l> Reading package lists... Done
[10:41] <r45c4l> Building dependency tree
[10:41] <r45c4l> Reading state information... Done
[10:41] <r45c4l> E: Couldn't find package rt3090
[10:41] <FloodBot1> r45c4l: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:41] <Saket> Jordan_U: i am not that bad with terminal
[10:41] <Saket> Jordan_U: u can tell me
[10:42] <chelz> r45c4l: sudo apt-get install rt3090-dkms
[10:42] <chelz> r45c4l: sorry about that
[10:42] <sahil> i can not believe you guys are talking about the rt3090
[10:42] <chelz> sahil: is that why you're here?
[10:42] <sahil> chelz: I have read tons of forums on this very issue tonight
[10:42] <r45c4l> okk thanks chelz
[10:42] <Jordan_U> Saket: Download these and extract them to /lib/firmware/ http://jordanu.dyndns.org/b43-firmware-lucid.tar.gz http://jordanu.dyndns.org/b43legacy-firmware-lucid.tar.gz
[10:43] <ashtray> ¶Ô aaronyy Ëµ: .
[10:43] <chelz> sahil: we're currently trying a ppa
[10:43] <dr0id> guys my system has gone pretty slow, can't understand why so , can anyone help me out ?
[10:43] <sahil> chelz: I was going to build something similar
[10:43] <chelz> sahil: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:markus-tisoft/rt3090
[10:43] <chelz> sahil: sudo apt-get install rt3090-dkms
[10:43] <chelz> is what i'd say you should try
[10:43] <sahil> chelz: question is isn't there support for rt3090 in the kernel?
[10:43] <chelz> sahil: no idea
[10:44] <chelz> sahil: i would guess not
[10:44] <Saket> Jordan_U: okay, as i am on my windows machine, i ll copy every step u tell me and then execute them on my lucid
[10:44] <sahil> chelz: from my reading there is...
[10:44] <sahil> integrated with the rt2860pci driver-I was going to compile a kernel with it working
[10:44] <Jordan_U> Saket: That's actually basically the only step, if you're already familiar with using the tar command.
[10:45] <Saket> Jordan_U: i am familiar with tar command
[10:45] <dr0id> guys my system has gone slow, can anyone help me out ? extremely slow
[10:45] <Saket> Jordan_U: :)
[10:46] <sahil> chelz: if the kernel didn't work i was going to follow the howto build the RaLink guide and build a deb
[10:46] <chelz> sahil: eh well you could try the ppa first. should be quick test.
[10:46] <Jordan_U> Saket: Ok, once you've checked that the directories /lib/firmware/b43 and /lib/firmware/b43legacy exist run "sudo rmmod b43; sudo modprobe b43" (or reboot).
[10:47] <amanita_> dr0id what cpu do you have and how many gb ram?
[10:47] <sahil> chelz: ppa is fine but i'm interested in this for two reason-i sell these laptops to customers so i need a longterm solution
[10:47] <dr0id> quad core 2.33ghz and 2gb ddr2 ram I hope
[10:47] <amanita_> dr0id try install htop, then run it in a terminal to see what hogs your sys
[10:47] <chelz> sahil: make sure maverick gets support for it then get a package for it released in lucid-backports
[10:48] <dr0id> I executed this command -> top
[10:48] <dr0id> and this is what I got -> http://pastie.org/private/g1pewb6ak0xn37qjzi7rg
[10:48] <sahil> chelz:im concerned about maverick not lucid
[10:48] <Saket> Jordan_U: okay
[10:48] <chelz> sahil: or maverick is frozen actually, so maybe make sure natty gets it
[10:48] <Saket> Jordan_U: anything else?
[10:48] <coz_> dr0id,  you will get better info and more options with htop
[10:48] <Jordan_U> Saket: Most of the people who I've explained this to needed the exact command for every step, including mounting their windows partition. That's the only reason why I said that it was complicated / long :)
[10:48] <chelz> sahil: LTS releases have a much longer support lifecycle than normal releases, depending on who your customers are it might be better to keep them on LTS releases
[10:48] <dr0id> coz_: I have it, executed
[10:48] <dr0id> got some similar things :P I don't understand all those lol
[10:49] <sahil> chelz: desktop-endusers -they're laptops
[10:49] <Saket> Jordan_U: oh okay, i am not that bad :)
[10:49] <coz_> dr0id,  well you could screenshot what it is reporting now and upload to picpaste.com for us to look at :)
[10:49] <chelz> sahil: eh well for lucid users i sure hope it get a backport
[10:49] <coz_> dr0id,  i would full screen that first
[10:49] <r45c4l> chelz, i am getting this http://dpaste.com/245364/
[10:49] <Jordan_U> Saket: That's should be it, though you might run into the same problem with DHCP with the wireless card as you had with the wired connection.
[10:50] <amanita_> dr0id: hey you run virtualbox?
[10:50] <dr0id> coz_: it's a huge list how do I show you everything ?
[10:50] <Saket> Jordan_U: Thanks for the help, i ll be right back and let you know the result, thank you very much
[10:50] <dr0id> amanita_: yeah, virtualbox ose
[10:50] <Jordan_U> Saket: You're welcome.
[10:50] <dr0id> after starting it, my system went slow
[10:50] <chelz> r45c4l: sudo apt-get install rt3090-dkms
[10:50] <chelz> r45c4l: rt3090-dkms not rt3090
[10:50] <coz_> dr0id,  just screenshot that at fullscreen  the main culprits will be at the top of the list anyway
[10:50] <r45c4l> ohh sorry
[10:50] <amanita_> dr0id: and do you wonder why your sys is slow dude.
[10:50] <chelz> r45c4l: sure np
[10:51] <dr0id> no, I don't know
[10:52] <coz_> dr0id,  uploaded yet ? :)
[10:53] <dr0id> no, picpaste is slow
[10:53] <coz_> dr0id,   try speedyshare.com
[10:53] <dr0id> http://picpaste.com/extpics/explain-nc7BqhFs.png
[10:53] <r45c4l> chelz, now see this http://dpaste.com/245365/
[10:53] <coz_> dr0id,  I cant read that one :)  way too small
[10:53] <chelz> r45c4l: oops sorry about that
[10:53] <chelz> r45c4l: run this:    sudo apt-get update
[10:54] <chelz> r45c4l: then run that apt-get install again
[10:54] <coz_> dr0id,  full screen htop  hit printscreen and upload to speedyshare.com
[10:54] <sahil> the smallest steps chelz
[10:54] <r45c4l> okk chelz thanks :) let me do that
[10:54] <dr0id> http://www.speedyshare.com/files/24300603/explain.png
[10:54] <dr0id> coz_: ^^
[10:55] <coz_> dr0id,  according to that snapshot cpu is at 0%
[10:55] <dr0id> coz_: did you see my top results?
[10:55] <dr0id> http://pastie.org/private/g1pewb6ak0xn37qjzi7rg
[10:56] <coz_> dr0id,  ok that one says virtual box + a few other things have cpu at 10%
[10:56] <coz_> dr0id,  thats not much of a cpu load
[10:56] <dr0id> coz_: lol, things are getting hanged here, just pidgin is running barely
[10:57] <coz_> dr0id,   ok what do you have running other than virtual box....compiz?  ???
[10:57] <chelz> r45c4l: after those you have to reboot i think
[10:58] <r45c4l> sure chelz
[10:58] <coz_> dr0id,  out of curiosity    in terminal   lspci | grep -i vga
[10:59] <r45c4l> thanks for all the help chelz :)
[10:59] <chelz> r45c4l: sure. as soon as you reboot plz tell me if it fixed it or not.
[10:59] <noren> cant get nm-applet to work with different login?? some d-bus error !! help needed here
[11:00] <chelz> noren: what error do you get?
[11:00] <r45c4l> sure chelz i will sure tell u
[11:01] <eise> Hi guys after restart i can't get any sound out of this... it has worked perfectly before.. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/UDJv2SkA
[11:02] <coz_> eise,  first thing to check is in terminal     alsamixer   see if any sliders are down or muted
[11:02] <dr0id> sorry coz_ system crashed at last :P
[11:03] <dr0id> I think I need to move from kde to gnome :(
[11:03] <coz_> dr0id,  yikes... oh kde is definilty a hog at times
[11:03] <Saket> Jordan_U: thanks, everything is working fine
[11:03] <eise> coz_ ; canno open mixer...
[11:03] <amanita_> dr0id: wise man use gnome only
[11:03] <coz_> dr0id,  if you like kde apps but want gnome I suggest trying edubuntu  nice mix of the two
[11:03] <eise> *cannot
[11:03] <coz_> eise,  oooo
[11:03] <Saket> Jordan_U: i am on lucid
[11:03] <coz_> eise,  see if you have alsa-uitls istalled
[11:04] <dr0id> hmm..
[11:04] <dr0id> the thing is so much projects and so many things goin on, and I am on kde
[11:04] <dr0id> shifting to gnome would be easy ?
[11:04] <bazhang> dr0id, sure
[11:04] <coz_> dr0id,    sudou apt-get install  ubunt-desktop
[11:04] <dr0id> btw, seems like vista is more stable than kubuntu
[11:04] <bazhang> dr0id, got only kde installed now?
[11:04] <dr0id> kde and gnome, bnoth
[11:04] <dr0id> both*
[11:05] <bazhang> !puregnome | dr0id
[11:05] <bazhang> dr0id, follow that link on how to make it gnome only
[11:05] <eise> coz_ when i check Hardware through the speaker (the small icon) he list no availible hardware..
[11:05] <dr0id> I would'nt want to do that now, I am afraid, as I said, too many things here, I can't even think of taking backups :P
[11:05] <dr0id> may do that later, for now some quick fix maybe helpful heh
[11:05] <bazhang> dr0id, okay, well bookmark it for when you do
[11:05] <eise> coz_ alsa-utils give me: Usage: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils {start [CARD]|stop [CARD]|restart [CARD]|reset [CARD]}
[11:06] <dr0id> sure :)
[11:06] <coz_> eise,  ooo  thats not good...
[11:06] <r45c4l> hey chelz it worked perfectly
[11:06] <eise> But i can see it in the list of lspci...
[11:06] <r45c4l> my wifi is working now :)
[11:06] <r45c4l> thanks a lot
[11:06] <Spyzer> hi all, can gwibber manage system based accounts. I mean suppose i have more than one user account on my pc, so shall all of them receive their own personal updates??
[11:06] <Spyzer> and not the updates of others
[11:06] <Spyzer> ?
[11:06] <eise> coz_ and i know, when i try to restart the laptop some times.. i may work
[11:06] <coz_> eise,   ok I am not always the best for sound issues  ,,,,if no one here knows the next troubleshooting steps you couls try either #pulseaudio or #alsa channels
[11:06] <chelz> r45c4l: great to hear :)
[11:07] <r45c4l> thanks chelz :)
[11:07] <dr0id> after this crash google toolbar on firefox is entirely broken, can't see any options :(
[11:07] <dr0id> like the quick search, page rank, and most of them, can see just 4 options no
[11:07] <dr0id> gmail and other 3
[11:07] <Spyzer> !!!!!!!!???
[11:09] <miyamoto> audio out put is not workin in my dell inspiron n4010 laptop so can any one help me..........
[11:10] <airtonix> Spyzer, sorry i can't understand you, it seems all the keys on your keyboard just print exclamation marks
[11:10] <Spyzer> umm okay i shall then write it again
[11:10] <kaika> n blom len
[11:10] <Spyzer> can gwibber manage system based accounts. I mean suppose i have more than one user account on my pc, so shall all of them receive their own personal updates??
[11:10] <vasez> where does wine install icons into?  I deleted .wine and now I have links that obviously won't work
[11:11] <Spyzer> airtonix: please wud u tell me??
[11:11] <airtonix> Spyzer, you should probably ask the gwibber author(s)
[11:11] <Spyzer> i am behind a proxy so am unable to utilize gwibber functionalities
[11:12] <chelz> vasez: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-9893ae50079ca7a959258f0bc9a17aaf2e69b391
[11:12] <antivirtel> network proxy setting is equial with apt-cacher server?!
[11:12] <airtonix> vasez, when you install windows programs on linux and you have wine installed, it contains a helper app that will create .desktop files in your ~/.local/share/applications
[11:12] <vasez> chelz, airtonix thank you
[11:13] <airtonix> antivirtel, you need to provide more information
[11:14] <antivirtel> airtonix in the end of ubuntu setup there is "Advanced", then: http proxy field... this http proxy is an apt-cacher server? or it isnt..?!
[11:15] <airtonix> antivirtel, no. it is merely the network proxy setting that you will have if you went to system > preferences > network proxy
[11:15] <airtonix> antivirtel, also, I do not recall such a setting during install are you sure you are using Ubuntu Lucid (10.04) ?
[11:16] <abhi_> #ubuntu
[11:17] <antivirtel> airtonix yeah lucid :D what other?! sry, not "advanced" but "other"
[11:18] <blacktophat> zoing
[11:18] <airtonix> antivirtel, i think you can safely assume it is a normal proxy is it auto fills the port number with 8080
[11:18] <abhi_> Hello, Ubuntu One Service is not running as expected. Files and notes are not able to synchronize. Any help regarding this is appreciated
[11:18] <antivirtel> ok, thanks
[11:18] <airtonix> antivirtel, as far as i know, apt-cacher and apt-proxy work on another pport by default
[11:19] <antivirtel> yeah really...
[11:22] <shai> Jordan_U, chelz: I decided to give 'gnokii' a try, and it works great with Hebrew... the only problem I have now, is that Hebrew, when typed in the console, is backwards ... But even when sent, it arrives correctly.
[11:22] <shai> Any thoughts?
[11:22] <shai> The Hebrew channel is kinda dead... no-one talks there (yet)
[11:22] <abhi_> Hello, is the Ubuntu one service down right now? I am not able to sync the files. Somebody please check it...
[11:23] <datune> I have a file with the following permissions: -rw-------  1 postgres postgres 13081 Feb 16  2010 I874894.JPG, I am trying to access this file via http, but obviously apache does not have the correct permission. So I figured I could just add www-data to the group postgres, but that does not work either. The problem: Changing either file permissions or the fileowner is not an option. How can I solve this?
[11:26] <will_> datune: Looks like the user only has access to read and write
[11:26] <airtonix> datune, out of luck then
[11:27] <will_> datune: Interesting that the postgres user owns a JPG...
[11:27] <datune> will_: I know, it's a very complex story, trust me when I say I can't do anything about that...
[11:27] <will_> You can make it world-readable...
[11:27] <alexb_> can symbolic links have different permissions from there target?
[11:28] <datune> will_: Like I said, I can't...
[11:28] <will_> oh sorry
[11:29] <will_> You can't solve it with the given statements... though, maybe it would be interesting to hear the whole story...
[11:29] <Qwert> !octave-header
[11:30] <Jordan_U> Saket: You're welcome.
[11:30] <iShawnW> okay wtf does it take to just ftp/smb from win7 into 10.10
[11:30] <iShawnW> even mac can connect, xp can connect, I have no vista so didn't test that
[11:31] <guntbert> !language | iShawnW
[11:31] <iShawnW> guntbert: I refrained from dropping the full out fbomb
[11:32] <guntbert> iShawnW: even so
[11:32] <airtonix> iShawnW, i guess that question depends on what software you are using... (it's my assumption that every iteration of windows undergoes enough changes to make it incompatiable with other OS)
[11:32] <Qwert> !qoctave
[11:32] <sheepz> any reason why there's no main.cf in my /etc/postfix?
[11:32] <Qwert> !qtoctave
[11:33] <airtonix> !bots > Qwert
[11:33] <guntbert> alexb_: the permission of the link files don't matter (they are 777 usually), only the permission on the original count
[11:33] <Gnea> sheepz: it was never delivered
[11:33] <iShawnW> airtonix: its really felling like Bill blocked like smb port
[11:33] <FusionX> i recently installed xubuntu 10.4 using wubi under my windows C: drive (4 GB). Now sometimes after booting up xubuntu, the screen crashes at random times and starts blinking white stripes on half of the screen. And also when xubuntu boots up the logo appears very pixelly and looks as if it is run in safe mode and after the logo disappears a quick green color flashes on the screen. My xorg.0.log --> http://pastebin.com/uAy3NS4f . I use Samsung syncma
[11:33] <FusionX> ster 794mg monitor and my driver is intel 82845G
[11:33] <sheepz> Gnea, what do you mean?
[11:33] <airtonix> iShawnW, why?
[11:33] <Gnea> sheepz: well, what created /etc/postfix in the first place?
[11:33] <sheepz> i installed via apt
[11:33] <iShawnW> airtonix: every other box i have can connect but yet win7 can't
[11:33] <Gnea> what did you install, exactly?
[11:34] <sheepz> postfix
[11:34] <alexb_> thanks guntbert
[11:34] <sheepz> :D
[11:34] <guntbert> alexb_: you're welcome :-)
[11:34] <hiexpo> morning all
[11:34] <airtonix> iShawnW, you must be forgetting a step, because i have win7 clients at work that make use of a ubuntu 10.04 ebox server
[11:34] <iShawnW> airtonix: 10.10, I'm begining to regret it
[11:35] <airtonix> iShawnW, ok you need to ask in ubuntu+1
[11:35] <iShawnW> airtonix: do you know how to purge every part of samba? every dependancy?
[11:35] <airtonix> iShawnW, normal ubuntu channel is just for current release candidate. and #ubuntu+1 is for upcoming releases
[11:35] <Gnea> sheepz: well, according to my 10.04 system, /etc/postfix/main.cf is not part of the postfix package. have you ran through the mail server setup?
[11:35] <airtonix> iShawnW, apt-get purge packagename ?
[11:36] <iShawnW> that leaves the dependancies
[11:36] <Gnea> sheepz: try the postconf command
[11:36] <iShawnW> I need to get rid of it all
[11:36] <sheepz> Gnea, i'm on 10.04 as well, i'm just following a tutorial on setting up a mail server
[11:36] <sheepz> ok
[11:36] <Gnea> sheepz: cool
[11:36] <iShawnW> it was a 10.04 upgrade and I think it sees packages from 10.04 and they must not be workign
[11:36] <djordje> hi, i have problem with update on 10.04, rhytmbox update is grayed so i cant check it, it says LP-PPA -eugenesan
[11:37] <sheepz> postconf: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[11:37] <airtonix> iShawnW, upgrades are bad, repeat after me.
[11:37] <guntbert> !fud | airtonix
[11:37] <babtux> hi
[11:37] <iShawnW> airtonix: it was first time thing, I was feeling to lazy to download the iso... it cam back to bite me in the butt
[11:38] <airtonix> guntbert, its the truth. viz the scenario many fall into when they come here with problems caused by failed upgrades
[11:38] <iShawnW> guntbert: ... fud yourself, it cases issues. isssues that have come back to bite me in the butt
[11:38] <airtonix> guntbert, denying it is mis-information
[11:39] <Gnea> airtonix: that's quite enough out of you.
[11:40] <babtux> i want change my resulation when i tupe gnome-display-properties from ctrl+f2 and select 1920*1080 it dont appear and this error appear could not set the configuration for crtc 434 how solve this problem?
[11:41] <Gnea> airtonix: if someone has issues with their upgrades, help them solve the problem please, don't talk trash about them.
[11:41] <airtonix> Gnea, i wasn't, maybe you mis interpreted what i said.
[11:42] <sheepz> Gnea: any ideas?
[11:42] <Gnea> airtonix: I'm sorry, there's no other way to interpret this: 05:37 < airtonix> iShawnW, upgrades are bad, repeat after me.
[11:42] <airtonix> ok
[11:42] <Gnea> sheepz: on? you haven't told me what you've done
[11:42] <iShawnW> Gnea: it is a fact though, the upgrade causeed huge issues
[11:42] <sheepz> Gnea: haven't done anything really besides installing the postfix package via apt-get
[11:43] <iShawnW> Gnea: so many packages say they are there and don't work
[11:43] <sheepz> according to the tutorial which I think is a bit dated
[11:43] <sheepz> it should be sufficient
[11:43] <Gnea> well, I upgrade all the time and very rarely do they lead to small, medium or huge issues
[11:43] <Gnea> iShawnW: file a bug.
[11:43] <Gnea> sheepz: url of the tutorial?
[11:43] <Gnea> !bug | iShawnW
[11:44] <airtonix> iShawnW, for a long time now i make it a point to never upgrade, and to help with clean installs, i assign partitions to directories that i want to retain during a clean install, (a common one is to make /home use the majority of a hard drive)
[11:44] <Gnea> iShawnW: what did you upgrade from-to anyway?
[11:44] <sheepz> Gnea: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[11:44] <iShawnW> airtonix: I do have a seperate /home, I was to lazy to boot to a live cd/usb
[11:44] <iShawnW> Gnea: 10.04 to 10.10
[11:45] <Gnea> iShawnW: you ought to be asking for help in #ubuntu+1 then, since 10.10 isn't a final release yet
[11:45] <airtonix> iShawnW, just a note though, if its a server with something like apache or mysql running you'll want to do the same for the /var directory
[11:46] <iShawnW> airtonix: it was my desktop, trying to use smb/ftp to copy files to new lappy
[11:46] <Gnea> !10.10
[11:46] <Gnea> airtonix: and you should know better than to carry on anymore talk about the upgrade in here
[11:47] <airtonix> ok
[11:48] <unimatrix> is it possible to use bind9 to redirect a website for a specific client inside the local network?
[11:48] <joecamel> running latest ubuntu, plug in iphone, several options come up to listen to music and view photos, iphone icon appears on desktop.  None of the options work right.  Amorak comes closest by listing .m4a's, but doesn't recognize them or play them. directly clicking on the iphone results in an error.  what am i missing?  gtkpod doesn't see the device at all.
[11:48] <Gnea> sheepz: okay, that tut isn't too terribly dated (7/10), so if postconf doesn't do anything, try this:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[11:49] <sheepz> ok :)
[11:49] <Gnea> !iphone | joecamel
[11:49] <hiexpo> want it right do a fresh install > backup all files > you will loose anything not installed by synaptic with an upgrade
[11:49] <iShawnW> ...... iPhone has its own bot tool?
[11:49] <Gnea> hiexpo: or just keep /home on its own partition :)
[11:50] <hiexpo> Gnea, yup
[11:50] <dennis_> lol.. this is good.. I went to chmod 777 /var/run/file and accidentally typed chmod 777 / var/run/file  .. notice the space...  im not sure how many hundreds of files it changed before i aborted it but now I cannot SU ...
[11:50] <dennis_> is there a way to revert all system files back to their normal attributes?
[11:51] <joecamel> ty
[11:51] <Gnea> dennis_: livecd
[11:51] <dennis_> meh.. i guess ill just reinstall.. i wanted to upgrade to v10 anyways
[11:51] <Gnea> dennis_: and you technically only changed /, not any other files (you didn't use -r)
[11:52] <dennis_> oh yea... I used -r :)
[11:52] <Gnea> oh snap lol
[11:52] <Gnea> uhm, backup the imnportant files and, yeah, reinstall
[11:52] <Gnea> -n
[11:54] <Cookiemad> Hi
[11:55] <AbhiJit> hi
[11:55] <karthee> Hi ..  fdisk -l giving me error .. /dev/sdb doesnt contain valid partitioning table ..   http://pastebin.com/td1ivn7q   .. Any ideas ??
[11:56] <vu1kan> pidgin fail?
[11:56] <An_Ony_Moose> Is it at all possible to use a wacom bamboo pen&touch in ubuntu 10.04? it worked before I upgraded, but now I can't compile linuxwacom because it complains of a newer X server version.
[11:56] <hiexpo> pigin fail never
[11:56] <AbhiJit> after latest upgrade i dont have sound! help
[11:56] <ytaews> Is there any way I can force a monitor resolution to one that isn't detetected by Ubuntu?
[11:56] <vu1kan> ah...it said 0 people in the room...just pidgin lag
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> An_Ony_Moose:  some people where her yestarday with the same problem. No idea on a fix. Other then suggest checking the forums.
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> ytaews:  you could put a modeline in the xorg.conf but its been years since ive had to do that.
[11:57] <An_Ony_Moose> Dr_Willis, it suggests to me  xf86-input-wacom. That's installed but nothing happens :/
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> !modeline
[11:57] <An_Ony_Moose> http://paste.ubuntu.com/495821/
[11:58] <AbhiJit> sound pleasee!!!
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> An_Ony_Moose:  means very little to me. :) i looked at thse tablets befor.. and recalled people having issues with them. so i never bought one.
[11:58] <synackfin> grub-mkconfig hangs for me when I have raid+lvm partitions;  anyone know how to fix this?
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> !sound | AbhiJit
[11:58] <An_Ony_Moose> Dr_Willis, ok. thanks anyway  :)
[11:58] <AbhiJit> :(
[11:58] <Gnea> !usb
[11:58] <vu1kan> does <sudo apt-get update> do the same thing as the update manager in system>admin?
[11:58]  * Gnea looks oddly at AbhiJit 
[11:58] <joecamel> read the ipod/phone faq, watched the video..  still no go,  here's what i get when i click on the iphone icon:  Could not display "afc://c5818e5dfc4ad24f4fc8566bf115b8231562ab2d/".
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> vu1kan:  the tools do the same jobs. yes.  that updates the package list for all the package manager tools
[11:59] <AbhiJit> Dr_Willis, Gnea cant launch gnome-volume-control it says waiting for sound system to respond and thats it the msg box stays there
[11:59] <ytaews> Dr_Willis I have tried this and I don't seem to have an xorg.conf file in the first place to edit... is it a case of adding a single line or creating an entire config file from scratch?
[11:59] <Gnea> AbhiJit: right, so follow the directions that ubottu provided to you for diagnosing your sound system please.
[12:00] <AbhiJit> Gnea, that is the first direction ubottu tells me about troubleshooting - launch gnome-vlume-control
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> ytaews:  ive not had to mess with it in years..  back when xorg.conf were common. Theres a 'x modeline generator' web site i used years ago.  you just cut/pasted to the xorg.conf. you will have to make one i imagine.
[12:00] <Gnea> AbhiJit: there are more steps, try them.
[12:00]  * Gnea hates it when people give up easy
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> ytaews:  theres ways to have it auto make an xorg.conf but i dont recall the 'proper' way to do it now a days.
[12:01] <ytaews> Dr_Willis : Alright thanks I'll search around for one of those and see if it works
[12:02] <frag4now> hi all. how can i see last packages installed by ubuntu's package system?
[12:02] <joecamel> i have no idea how to even begin troubleshooting this.  would like to sync my iphone with my box though.
[12:03] <An_Ony_Moose> frag4now, you can't unless synaptic installed them
[12:03] <An_Ony_Moose> frag4now, if they were installed via synaptic you can find it in synaptic's history
[12:03] <frag4now> An_Ony_Moose: synaptic installed them
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> frag4now:  That is a feature in the new 'software center in 10.10' i saw today. :) a 'history'
[12:03] <frag4now> where i can find synaptic history?
[12:05] <samfisher> Hello. I have a Vodafone 3G / k3520 modem with builtin drivers only for windows. I'd like to use it on slack. Any idea?
[12:05] <Gnea> AbhiJit: any luck?
[12:05] <AbhiJit> Gnea, tried reinstalling alsa-utils no luck
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> frag4now:  file -> history
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:05] <AbhiJit> Gnea, something wrong in latest headers update
[12:05] <sandeep_> hi
[12:05] <Gnea> AbhiJit: okay, were you able to locate the sound troubleshooting procedure?
[12:05] <AbhiJit> Gnea, yes
[12:05] <Gnea> AbhiJit: I see. are you on 10.04 or 10.10?
[12:05] <frag4now> Dr_Willis: i don't get it
[12:06] <frag4now> there isn't
[12:06] <AbhiJit> Gnea, lucid
[12:06] <frag4now> maybe i'm using an old version
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> frag4now:  no idea. Im on 10.10 on this box.
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> synaptic --> File -> History is right there for me.
[12:06] <Gnea> AbhiJit: can you pastebin the entirety of the headers update please?
[12:06] <AbhiJit> Gnea, how? i just done apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:07] <wer_> Does Kubuntu/ubuntu DVD contains packages such as build-essential etc ?
[12:07] <Gnea> !pastebinit | AbhiJit
[12:07] <Gnea> :)
[12:07] <frag4now> Dr_Willis: ok thanks anyway
[12:07] <AbhiJit> Gnea, system is not detecting my sound card
[12:07] <wer_> I need those packages in offline mode and have been trying for a month now...kubuntu dvd is my last hope
[12:07] <Gnea> AbhiJit: you don't need sound to use pastebinit.
[12:07] <wer_> please help
[12:07] <AbhiJit> Gnea, no i am telling you about the procedure i am following: aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found...
[12:08] <wer_> otherwise I have no choice but to go to windows and try to build linux enviro in there
[12:08] <AbhiJit> !offline | wer_
[12:08] <Gnea> AbhiJit: clearly you don't need my help.
[12:08] <AbhiJit> Gnea, indedd i need!
[12:08] <Gnea> AbhiJit: then please stop arguing.
[12:08] <DeeTah> I lack one printing option from windows. on windows, my HP DeskJet driver could allow me to do manual duplex printing - it printed odd pages, then showed a dialog "now please put the pages again upside-down" and printed the even ones. any way to add something like that in ubuntu?
[12:08] <AbhiJit> Gnea, system is not detecting sound card how to install driver?
[12:09] <AbhiJit> ok
[12:09] <joecamel> any idea on this error?  generated by plugging in iphone and during picture discovery, i select open folder instead of a photo app.  Error: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.353 was not provided by any .service files
[12:09] <joecamel> Please select another viewer and try again.
[12:09] <AbhiJit> Gnea, so whats your suggestion?
[12:09] <wer_> AbhiJit: it says no matches found for "build-essential"
[12:09]  * Gnea proceeds to get up to walk away.
[12:09] <wer_> AbhiJit: does kubuntu dvd contrains precompiled packages ?
[12:09] <Gnea> AbhiJit: I'll ask you one more time: what is the output of the failed install error?
[12:09] <AbhiJit> Gnea, the installation was not failed
[12:09] <AbhiJit> it was successfull
[12:10] <BlueEagle> wer_: It does.
[12:10] <AbhiJit> wer_, dunno
[12:10] <Gnea> AbhiJit: don't play games with me:  06:05 < AbhiJit> Gnea, something wrong in latest headers update
[12:10] <AbhiJit> ohhh
[12:10] <AbhiJit> Gnea, i mean the latest updates contains the bug which causes my sound to vanish
[12:10] <wer_> BlueEagle: it gives no result found for me
[12:11] <Gnea> AbhiJit: and so, I need to know what got upgraded, exactly. providing a log of the entire update would provide such information.
[12:11] <wer_> BlueEagle: inface going to that site says: No handler matched request to /ljl
[12:11] <BlueEagle> wer_: I am sorry. Were you looking for a particular package? I may have missed the earlier discussion.
[12:11] <AbhiJit> Gnea, but i dont know how to get that log thats the problem
[12:11] <wer_> BlueEagle: yes, build essential
[12:11] <abee01> cew_masivers
[12:11] <Gnea> AbhiJit: is the terminal you made the log with gone?
[12:11] <BlueEagle> !compile
[12:12] <wer_> BlueEagle: does kubuntu dvd contains precompiled packages
[12:12] <AbhiJit> Gnea, it was ctrl alt f1 session
[12:12] <BlueEagle> wer_: The Kubuntu DVD does contain precompiled packages for a whole host of software. It does also contain precompiled packages for build_essentials
[12:12] <Gnea> AbhiJit: have you rebooted since?
[12:12] <AbhiJit> Gnea, yes
[12:13] <BlueEagle> wer_: complete helps
[12:13] <Gnea> AbhiJit: is there anything from this command:  cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:13] <ziox> ;)
[12:13] <ziox> Hello /b/
[12:13] <AbhiJit> Gnea, --- no soundcards ---
[12:13] <wer_> BlueEagle: ah ok...I have been facing problem in installing build-esential in offline mode for a month now..and have tried kubuntu, ubuntu, opensuse, debian, mandriva, fedora
[12:13] <wer_> BlueEagle: and only mandriva detected my network card
[12:13] <Gnea> AbhiJit: and can you pastebin the output of this command please:  lsmod
[12:14] <wer_> BlueEagle: so when would one expect the driver to be in kubuntu release ?
[12:14] <wer_> any idea
[12:14] <AbhiJit> Gnea, http://pastebin.com/Bnx9S0Qe
[12:15] <Gnea> AbhiJit: do you know what soundcard youhave?
[12:15] <AbhiJit> Gnea, conexant (i think)
[12:15] <BlueEagle> wer_: That would entirely depend on which network card you are using.
[12:15] <Gnea> AbhiJit: k, try this:  lspci | grep audio
[12:16] <AbhiJit> Gnea, no output
[12:16] <wer_> BlueEagle: dell 802.11n I guess
[12:16] <BlueEagle> wer_: lspci |grep net
[12:16] <Gnea> AbhiJit: ah, lspci | grep Audio
[12:16] <AbhiJit> yah
[12:16] <AbhiJit> same
[12:16] <Gnea> ...!
[12:16] <AbhiJit> no
[12:16] <AbhiJit> wait
[12:16] <AbhiJit> Gnea, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 04)
[12:17] <bazhang> !hdaintel > AbhiJit
[12:17] <wer_> BlueEagle: Atheros AR8152 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller
[12:17] <AbhiJit> bazhang, ok will look at it
[12:17] <joecamel> well.. solved the problem.  i rebooted, now it's all good.
[12:18] <hiexpo> magine that
[12:19] <wer_> BlueEagle: moreover the driver requires linux kernel source also..which increases the list of dependency and my problems
[12:19] <Gnea> AbhiJit: gotta run out for a bit, be back in a few
[12:19] <AbhiJit> Gnea, np
[12:20] <BlueEagle> wer_: Not really. You may download the .deb-files from the repositories using another computer (or OS for that matter) and install them manually.
[12:20] <BlueEagle> wer_: That appears to be your best bet. According to the post I found on google you need wireless-compat [sic]
[12:21] <BlueEagle> wer_: Sorry, compat-wireless
[12:21] <BlueEagle> wer_: May I suggest http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1505697.html
[12:21] <Qwert> AbhiJit: Try the following: wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.16.tar.bz2
[12:21] <Qwert> wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/lib/alsa-lib-1.0.16.tar.bz2
[12:21] <Qwert> wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/utils/alsa-utils-1.0.16.tar.bz2
[12:21] <Qwert> wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/firmware/alsa-firmware-1.0.16.tar.bz2
[12:21] <FloodBot1> Qwert: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:21] <AbhiJit> Qwert, all of them?
[12:21] <wer_> BlueEagle: problem is there..as generally another m/c with that OS and a working internet connection has internet connection which updates libc6 on that
[12:22] <Qwert> Excluding first as you are with it
[12:22] <wer_> BlueEagle: thanks, but I am following that thread for over a month now
[12:22] <Qwert> AbhiJit: Excluding first as you are with it
[12:22] <AbhiJit> Qwert, ok first one done
[12:22] <Qwert> AbhiJit: Move with rest three
[12:22] <jrib> !away > No_one|gone
[12:22] <wer_> BlueEagle: and got error that no linux kernel source found
[12:22] <AbhiJit> Qwert, ok
[12:23] <wer_> BlueEagle: tried on a debian installation then but then also this creeps up and I am stuck: man:  cannot write to /var/cache/man/cat7/atl1e.7.gz in catman mode  atl1e.
[12:23] <BlueEagle> wer_: Then you need to install the kernel sources. Download the .deb-files for that aswell from the repositories using another computer and transfer it using a USB drive or CD to the linux computer.
[12:23] <Crash2108> What does it mean when your .bashrc file has a word and ()?  How are you to execute that function?
[12:23] <jrib> Crash2108: pastebin what you are talking about
[12:23] <lonelyibex> hi everyone
[12:24] <Crash2108> It's just "extract () { ..."
[12:24] <wer_> BlueEagle: well the problem with other computer is that all these packages have libc6 as there dependency and when I try to install the .deb from other PC I get some error related to version of libc6
[12:24] <Crash2108> jrib
[12:25] <jrib> Crash2108: it's a function named "extract".  I don't understand your question.
[12:25] <wer_> BlueEagle: on my fresh installation
[12:25] <Crash2108> But how do I use it?
[12:25] <jrib> Crash2108: like any other bash function
[12:25] <jrib> !cli > Crash2108
[12:25] <wer_> BlueEagle: i hope kubuntu dvd contains linux headers also
[12:25] <lonelyibex> when I download intel fortran complicer,it give me three choice: IA-32,Intel® 64 and IA-64,my computer is X86_64, which one should i use? help!
[12:25] <jrib> Crash2108: i.e.  extract arg1 arg2 ...
[12:25] <Qwert> AbhiJit: Done?
[12:25] <Crash2108> Yes, I do use the CLI.  But it says command not found.
[12:26] <AbhiJit> Qwert, no last one in progress
[12:26] <Crash2108> In fact I ONLY use the CLI, as I'm SSHing.
[12:26] <AbhiJit> Qwert, done
[12:26] <AbhiJit> Qwert, what next?
[12:26] <Qwert> AbhiJit: tar -xvf /home/<username>/alsa-driver-1.0.16.tar.bz2
[12:26] <kapcom01> hello, i am using ubuntu and i have ATI X800 GT which is not supported by the proprietary drivers. I am about to buy a used one for a little gaming and fast HD video playing. I am between 9800 GT, 4650, 3650 all of which are inside my bugdet of about 40 euros. Can you help me decide? Thank.
[12:26] <BlueEagle> wer_: No, I think you misunderstand. What you do need to do is to go to the repositories and get the .deb-files from the repositories and then transfer them to the computer. If the files you get from the repositories require an updated libc6 then I do suggest getting the libc6 from the repos aswell until all dependencies are satisified. You could also grab an alternative network card that is supported out of the box and use that to install the
[12:26] <jrib> Crash2108: your bashrc is likely not sourced when you ssh
[12:26] <Hald> Howdy folks
[12:27] <maco> BlueEagle, wer_:  NO
[12:27] <Crash2108> jrib, what do you mean not sourced?
[12:27] <lonelyibex> anyone konw the differences between  IA-64 and  Intel® 64 ?
[12:27] <AbhiJit> Qwert, done
[12:27] <jrib> Crash2108: bash doesn't read it...
[12:27] <maco> BlueEagle:, wer_:  if you change libc6 version just about everything needs to be recompiled
[12:27] <ikonia> swapping libc out is not a good idea
[12:27] <AbhiJit> lonelyibex, ##hardware
[12:27] <Qwert> AbhiJit: tar -xvf /home/<username>/alsa-lib-1.0.16.tar.bz2
[12:27] <Hald> I just upgraded to 10.4 and see now a problem with compiz enabled. I get a nother pointer, its huge, black and ugly. Where do I change it?
[12:27] <lonelyibex> AbhiJit: yeah
[12:27] <AbhiJit> Qwert, done
[12:27] <AbhiJit> lonelyibex, ask in channel ##hardware
[12:28] <ikar> hi, what's the best c++ compiler for Ubuntu?
[12:28] <wer_> maco: ikonia BlueEagle hm..then kubuntu dvd seems to be my best choice ?
[12:28] <ikonia> ikar: best ?
[12:28] <lonelyibex> AbhiJit: thanks
[12:28] <ikonia> ikar: the gnu compiler "GCC" is the standard
[12:28] <AbhiJit> ikar, gcc
[12:28] <Qwert> AbhiJit: tar -xvf /home/<username>/alsa-firmware-1.0.16.tar.bz2
[12:28] <AbhiJit> lonelyibex, np
[12:28] <ikonia> Qwert: you've said that 3 times now
[12:28] <AbhiJit> Qwert, done
[12:28] <Qwert> Nope
[12:28] <AbhiJit> ikonia, total four files
[12:28] <erUSUL> wer_: maybe your card is supported by atl1c driver? have you tried?
[12:28] <ikonia> AbhiJit: I know, but I think we get the message
[12:28] <Crash2108> jrib, how do I ensure that that funciton is always available for all methods and users?
[12:28] <Qwert> ikonia: driver, lib, firmare
[12:28] <AbhiJit> ikonia, hmm
[12:29] <AbhiJit> Qwert, all four done?
[12:29] <Qwert> AbhiJit: Donw with firmaware?
[12:29] <AbhiJit> Qwert, yes
[12:29] <Qwert> AbhiJit: Any errors till now?
[12:29] <AbhiJit> Qwert, no
[12:29] <ikar> ikonia, ok, so that mean i can compile c++ in the terminal?
[12:29] <Qwert> AbhiJit: tar -xvf /home/<username>/alsa-utils-1.0.16.tar.bz2
[12:29] <jrib> Crash2108: put it in a file that gets sourced system-wide.  What do you mean by "all methods"?
[12:29] <ikonia> ikar: yes
[12:29] <LiL_AndreW> hello, I want to update the bios because I have problems reading network appear to have been resolved .. how to update the bios from ubuntu 10.04??
[12:29] <wer_> erUSUL: not yet....didn't try when I had debian and can't try now until I have build-essential on kubuntu
[12:29] <Hald> Its like I have two cursors... Why?
[12:30] <ikar> ikonia, ok, thanks for the info
[12:30] <AbhiJit> Qwert, done
[12:30] <erUSUL> wer_: the driver is included with ubuntu
[12:30] <blue112> Hi here.
[12:30] <erUSUL> wer_: « sudo modprobe atl1c »
[12:30] <Qwert> AbhiJit: Check your home folder, there must be four folders
[12:30] <AbhiJit> Qwert, yes there are
[12:30] <blue112> What can I do to solve the black moving stripes problem with Flash Player on 10.04 (an probably before) ?
[12:30] <Qwert> AbhiJit: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:30] <wer_> erUSUL: ok..trying and would get back in a few moments
[12:30] <LiL_AndreW> hello, I want to update the bios because I have problems reading network appear to have been resolved .. how to update the bios from ubuntu 10.04??
[12:31] <Crash2108> jrib, as in, having that function available if I'm SSHing, or using GUI or PHP's method to execute system functions, etc.
[12:31] <AbhiJit> Qwert, its allready installed build-essential
[12:31] <Qwert> AbhiJit: cd /home/username/alsa-driver-1.0.16
[12:31] <erUSUL> LiL_AndreW: depends on the motherboard manufacturer. it provides the tools
[12:31] <jrib> Crash2108: put it in /etc/profile or similar.  No idea what php does
[12:31] <AbhiJit> Qwert, next?
[12:31] <almog> hey all. i have a problem. i have an ati card and i want to make a screencast. for some reason with every program i find, as soon as i start the reccording my desktop performance lowers drasticaly (to the point it seems like 2-3 fps) when i type commend TOP it sais my Xorg uses 100% of my ram, why is that? how can i fix it?
[12:32] <magnetron> blue112: if you are using 64-bit ubuntu, i suggest you try replacing the 32-bit flash that is in the repositories, and instead install the experimental 64-bit flash from Adobe's website
[12:32] <blue112> magnesium, I'm using 32bits ubuntu.
[12:32] <erUSUL> Crash2108: in ubuntu/debian ~/.profile sources bashrc already. if the remote system does not do that is easy to add
[12:32] <Qwert> AbhiJit: We need to configure after installing it
[12:32] <AbhiJit> ohh
[12:32] <Qwert> AbhiJit: ./configure --with-cards=ICH6
[12:32] <LiL_AndreW> erUSUL, I have an Acer Aspire One Netbook d250 .. you can help me?
[12:32] <Qwert> AbhiJit: make
[12:32] <Qwert> make install
[12:33] <spizti> Hi. Does anyone know what winetricks is and where do I get it from ? All the links I foudn through Google were broken.
[12:33] <maco> Qwert: make install will need sudo
[12:33] <Qwert> AbhiJit: Done
[12:33] <erUSUL> LiL_AndreW: as i said. check the manufacturers site. and see what is needed to the the bios flashing
[12:33] <Qwert> AbhiJit: No
[12:33] <AbhiJit> Qwert, make gives this error http://pastebin.com/HXR4vYT0
[12:34] <poseidon> So me and my friends are planning on having an "installfest" at my university.  We are going to have ubuntu as the main option for us to install.  Does anyone know of a way to automate installing so that I can have added software included (like codecs, jre, flash, etc.)?
[12:34] <magnetron> spizti: i tried the first hit on google, seems to be up
[12:34] <Qwert> AbhiJit: Do we untar dbe files?!!
[12:34] <Qwert> AbhiJit: *deb
[12:34] <magnetron> poseidon: it's called an OEM install
[12:34] <AbhiJit> Qwert, dont know
[12:34] <Qwert> AbhiJit: Well you understood the logic but one think went wrong
[12:35] <AbhiJit> Qwert, which one?
[12:35] <LiL_AndreW> erUSUL, I looked on the manufacturer's website but it provides only an exe file for windows ..
[12:36] <maco> poseidon: you could put those debs on a flash drive and sudo dpkg -i *deb
[12:36] <magnetron> !automate | poseidon
[12:36] <erUSUL> LiL_AndreW: you have to use the DOS utilities
[12:37] <im_insane> hello.
[12:37] <AbhiJit> i am not.
[12:38] <erUSUL> LiL_AndreW: you can create a floppy disk image in linux with freedos ( or other msdos ) see step by step here http://www.linuxinsight.com/how-to-flash-motherboard-bios-from-linux-no-dos-windows-no-floppy-drive.html
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> poseidon:  theres various ways to remaster/make your own release also that include things. but it can get annoying. You can also just make a scritpt you run on each box that installs the extras you want
[12:38] <LiL_AndreW> erUSUL,  excuses are not very familiar .. so I can not do it on ubuntu?
[12:38] <LiL_AndreW> erUSUL,  sorry for mistakes i m italian
[12:38] <blue112> What can I do to solve the black moving stripes problem with Flash Player on 10.04 (an probably before) ? Looks like a vertical synchro problem.
[12:38] <erUSUL> LiL_AndreW: you have to use a freedos livecd of sorts
[12:38] <erUSUL> !it | LiL_AndreW
[12:39] <magnetron> blue112: did you try the solution i suggested earlier?
[12:39] <blue112> magnetron, I'm using ubuntu 32 bits
[12:40] <kapcom01> hello, is 9800GT well supported by proprietary drivers? thanks
[12:40] <AbhiJit> !hardware > kapcom01
[12:40] <juk> blue112: where you watch movies, give me link to check
[12:41] <Gnea> kapcom01: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia
[12:42] <blue112> juk, it's not on movies, it's on games. I'd like to make a video or a screen capture, but I can't : On the screen capture everything is normal, and when I try to make a video it slows down my computer so much I can't do anything.
[12:42] <blue112> juk, it happens on embedded youtube videos, for instance (every one).
[12:42] <spizti> Ah, found winetricks through the package manager, makes sense. Bye.
[12:43] <magnetron> blue112: if all you want to do is to download youtube videos, there are simpler solutions
[12:43] <Gnea> blue112: wait - you're trying to do a video capture of a youtube video?
[12:43] <juk> blue112: hang on, you making video?
[12:43] <blue112> magnetron, I don't want to download capture video
[12:43] <coolroot--> can anyone take a screenshot of their desktop? and put it on http://uppix.net ? pls?
[12:43] <blue112> Well.
[12:44] <blue112> The problem happens when I'm WATCHING flash animations (game, video etc...), not when I'm trying to capture it.
[12:44] <Gnea> blue112: I was going to say, there's a FF plugin that works great for it called Youtube Download
[12:44] <juk> blue112: imagebin some please
[12:45] <blue112> juk, the problem doesn't happens when I'm making a screen capture
[12:45] <blue112> It looks like a vertical synchro problem
[12:46] <yoki_> hi guys. i have a some trouble... i have unstable buildd of google-chrome and he generated flash crash on my pc. i fix it by create simlink in directory google. but in update it link was be changed again ... what can i do for fix it permanently
[12:47] <blue112> Then, any tip, solution, workaround ?
[12:47] <juk> blue112: update flashplayer, out of ideas
[12:48] <blue112> juk, I'm using the very lastest version.
[12:48] <blue112> I happens on all my linux computer on many flash animations.
[12:48] <juk> blue112: so perhaps hardware issue
[12:48] <blue112> juk, I don't have the same hardware on all my linux computers ._.
[12:49] <blue112> juk, I succeed scrren caputre one "stripe" : http://s.blue112.eu/233c94bade6e.png
[12:49] <juk> blue112: all of them running ubuntu?
[12:49] <blue112> juk, yep.
[12:50] <coolroot--> can anyone help me on my applets? i need a good sysinfo applet...
[12:50] <blue112> It's the black strip in the 2/3 of the screen
[12:50] <Crash2108> jrib, http://pastebin.com/pLAhQ7rx
[12:50] <blue112> (the very black, not the alpha one)
[12:50] <pc01> hola elo
[12:50] <frag4now> what's last linux-image available?
[12:50] <blue112> They are flickering very fast, it hearts my eyes
[12:51] <frag4now> i'm using 2.6.32-24-generic
[12:51] <frag4now> is it last available?
[12:51] <juk> blue112: it's scary
[12:51] <blue112> frag4now, you're looking for a kernel ? Then you can go to kernel.org
[12:51] <frag4now> no
[12:51] <blue112> juk, it's boring, really boring.
[12:51] <frag4now> i'm looking to see it synapic installed linux-headers only or linux-image too
[12:51] <frag4now> as i can't find it
[12:51] <pc05> hola
[12:52] <llutz> frag4now:  telnet kernel.org 79
[12:52] <pc05> holapc01
[12:52] <frag4now> llutz something is kernel.org and something else is last ubuntu-kernel package available
[12:53] <juk> blue112: bug adobe
[12:53] <blue112> juk, let's try.
[12:54] <Pommes> After the latest 10.04-xorg-update my X-Server doesn't come up. It crashes at boot-time with "Segmentation fault".
[12:54] <Pommes> Anyone with that problem?
[12:54] <blue112> juk, I really don't know how to describe my problem, is that flickering black stripes ?
[12:54] <pc05> hola agua
[12:54] <pc05> hola bambi
[12:54] <blue112> Is there a way to take a movie of my desktop so I can so you, juk ?
[12:54] <blue112> show*
[12:55] <agua> hola que tal?
[12:55] <pc05> genial
[12:55] <bazhang> !es | pc05 agua
[12:56] <juk> blue112: mobile phone
[12:56] <agua> hola
[12:57] <agua> hola
[12:57] <pc05> guapa
[12:57] <bazhang> !screencast | blue112
[12:57] <blue112> juk, I can't record movie on my mobile phone >_<
[12:57] <blue112> thanks bazhang
[12:57] <bazhang> pc05, agua english here
[12:57] <spool> hi, I've just run into this bug on my server and I'm not sure how to fix it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tar/+bug/539814
[12:58] <spool> the problem is that when tar is broken, you can't install any .deb, because they are all compressed
[12:58] <POVaddct> spool: tar does not compress, it uses external programs like gzip or bzip2 for that
[12:59] <spool> POVaddct: right sorry yes, but .debs are in an archive format
[12:59] <POVaddct> spool: yes. and tar is broken in current ubuntu?
[12:59] <spool> POVaddct: and I don't know how to install a fix without invoking tar
[12:59] <mr_hai> hello im having problems as stated in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=af75a6379d4679f8ab6df823b449a595&t=1285172
[13:00] <spool> POVaddct: indeed
[13:00] <reeniginEesreveR> my nginx server is oddly serving binary files as  text/plain so that browser tries to display it within it
[13:00] <yuvateja> my pendrive is not been detected. whats the way out??
[13:00] <POVaddct> spool: ugly :/
[13:00] <mr_hai> im chrooted into the OS and ready to perform a restore
[13:00] <spool> POVaddct: indeed. shall I paste bin?
[13:00] <mr_hai> any help ?
[13:00] <POVaddct> spool: let me read the bug report first
[13:00] <spool> POVaddct: cool. Thanks very much :)
[13:01] <Nece228> hi
[13:01] <AbhiJit> after latest updates ubuntu unable to find sound card!
[13:01] <AbhiJit> help
[13:01] <Nece228> what dependiences are required for pyjunior?
[13:01] <mr_hai> AbhiJit, at least its abale to fdind your hard drive!
[13:01] <mr_hai> my update killed my boot
[13:01] <yuvateja> i am able to see my pendrive in System>Administration>Diskutilities, but i am unable to see the content. What shall i do??
[13:01] <AbhiJit> mr_hai, yah latest updates having so many bug in them
[13:02] <POVaddct> spool: so the kernel on your system is < 2.6.22?
[13:02] <mr_hai> im currently on a live disk trying to restore it
[13:02] <s000501> Having a problem ("Huh, no eprom present", "Invalid EEPROM", "Encoder mailbox not found") with my Hauppage PVR-500 tuner card after installing a new motherboard, any tips to resolve these issues?
[13:02] <AbhiJit> mr_hai, i am thinking for ubuntu reinstallation
[13:02] <spool> POVaddct: yeah. I'm fairly certain
[13:02] <POVaddct> spool: uname -a will tell you
[13:02] <mr_hai> naw lol im going to try for a chrooted update
[13:03] <spool> POVaddct: was double checking :)
[13:03] <spool> POVaddct: yeah 18-8
[13:03] <yuvateja> i am able to see my pendrive in System>Administration>Diskutilities, but i am unable to see the content. What shall i do??
[13:03] <spool> POVaddct: err.. 18.8
[13:03] <mr_hai> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=af75a6379d4679f8ab6df823b449a595&t=1285172
[13:03] <POVaddct> spool: 2.6.18? that was never an ubuntu kernel
[13:03] <AbhiJit> i think i shutdown the compute while it was installing updates. does this cause any probleM?
[13:03] <mr_hai> root@ubuntu:/# dpkg --configure -a
[13:03] <mr_hai> dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: No such file or directory
[13:03] <spool> POVaddct: 2.6.18.8-xen
[13:04] <spool> POVaddct: that might be the problem....
[13:04] <POVaddct> spool: ah okay
[13:04] <mr_hai> SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!
[13:04] <zulax> i just made my menu bar disappear from terminal
[13:04] <zulax> how to get it back
[13:04] <mr_hai> :( *cries*
[13:04] <bazhang> lose the caps mr_hai
[13:04]  * AbhiJit cries with mr_hai 
[13:05] <POVaddct> spool: so you basically need someone to extract the new tar binary from the fixed .deb
[13:05] <magnetron> zulax: right click on the terminal
[13:05] <magnetron> zulax: click show menu
[13:05] <spool> POVaddct: I can do that myself...
[13:05] <spool> POVaddct: and then just replace the old binary with it?
[13:05] <Gnea> mr_hai: do you have a /var/apt/ directory?
[13:05] <POVaddct> spool: yes, maybe rename the old binary first
[13:05] <zulax> ah, thanks magnetron ,
[13:06] <Gnea> mr_hai: sorry, /var/cache/apt/
[13:06] <zulax> magnetron, how to make it wrap lines?
[13:06] <rockhopper> hi, when i try to update or install someting, the downloads are stalling in the middle!
[13:06] <rockhopper> when i try it in ubuntu netbook remix..
[13:06] <spool> POVaddct: right sure. When you say the new binary, do you mean the new debian unstable 1.23?
[13:06] <mr_hai> Gnea, on the live system or the failed system?
[13:06] <mr_hai> oh
[13:06] <Gnea> mr_hai: failed
[13:06] <spool> POVaddct: or a patched 1.22?
[13:06] <mr_hai> lemmie check
[13:06] <magnetron> zulax: that's a feature of the software you are running in the terminal
[13:06] <rockhopper> But the other updates for the jaunty're downloading finr
[13:07] <mr_hai> Gnea, no i do not
[13:07] <POVaddct> spool: the one from the fixed ubuntu package
[13:07] <rockhopper> does anyone know what the problem might be?
[13:07] <Gnea> mr_hai: oh my... what about /var/ itself?
[13:07] <zulax> magnetron, ok, its vim then
[13:07] <mr_hai> yes it exists
[13:07] <Gnea> mr_hai: and /var/cache/ ?
[13:07] <mr_hai> :O MY WWW dir :(
[13:07] <mr_hai> that exists too
[13:08] <Gnea> mr_hai: is /var on its own filesystem or the same as / ?
[13:08] <spool> POVaddct: I think the fixed ubuntu package is either the current release with the patch from the bug report (which is why the report remains open), or new package from maverick
[13:08] <alexb_> depends on your setup Gnea
[13:08] <Gnea> alexb_: I wasn't asking you.
[13:08] <mr_hai> Gnea, lemmie check to make sure i havent mounted /ver as the / accidently lol
[13:08] <Gnea> mr_hai: okay
[13:08] <alexb_> oh read fail
[13:08] <Gnea> np
[13:09] <mr_hai> yes i have mounted the / correctly
[13:09] <rockhopper> Does anyone know the problem's solution?
[13:09] <mr_hai> Gnea, yes i have var on a seperate partiton
[13:09] <Gnea> mr_hai: k, and what filesystem is it formatted as?
[13:09] <spool> POVaddct: oh and just to ask-> does this imply that my kernel is frozen to what my hosting company has chosen?
[13:09] <mr_hai> Gnea Ext4
[13:09] <Qwert> If there is an error of: No soundcard found, what should be done?
[13:10] <POVaddct> spool: xen and other paravirtualized environments have to use special kernel versions
[13:10] <spool> POVaddct: thank you so much for you help btw, I've been working on this for a few days now
[13:10] <Gnea> mr_hai: have you attempted to fsck it while it's not mounted?
[13:11] <wer_> erUSUL: Hi, tried modprob, it does nothing on my system
[13:11] <Qwert> On following command: cat /proc/asound/cards. If there is no soundcard as output, what should be done?
[13:11] <erUSUL> wer_: eth0 does not appear?
[13:11] <spool> POVaddct: yeah that's what I was afraid of. So upgrading my ubuntu distribution won't upgrade my kernel...
[13:11] <mr_hai> Gnea, i just mounted /var onto the FS and ran the dpkg command and it did not give a return status
[13:11] <wer_> erUSUL: no
[13:11] <POVaddct> spool: right
[13:11] <mr_hai> Gnea, no i have not
[13:11] <Gnea> Qwert: make it so there is a soundcard present when doing that command.
[13:12] <Qwert> Gnea:??
[13:12] <Gnea> mr_hai: okay, I would unmount it and fsck the partition, just to be on the safe side
[13:12] <root_> i don't log into my sql server
[13:12] <POVaddct> spool: btw, according to the bug description, tools like cp are also affected (cp -a ...)
[13:12]  * AbhiJit thinking for another distro
[13:12] <spool> spool: ah, therein lies the rub. And all I really wanted was a more recent version of git :( ah well
[13:12] <spool> POVaddct: see that's not the case for me
[13:12] <Gnea> Qwert: are you still helping someone with their sound setup?
[13:12] <mr_hai> Im reinstalling Udev
[13:12] <spool> POVaddct: which is a little strange
[13:12] <spool> POVaddct: touch works
[13:12] <Qwert> Gnea: Yes
[13:13] <POVaddct> spool: try the steps in comment #42
[13:13] <Gnea> Qwert: oh, thought you knew how to fix it
[13:13] <root_> dr_willis
[13:13] <AbhiJit> Qwert, yah
[13:13] <root_> help
[13:13] <Qwert> Gnea: Tried it a lot, ask AbhiJit
[13:13] <Qwert> Gnea: The problem is basic
[13:13] <experiMENTAL> is there any xorg configuration guide in pdf format?
[13:13] <AbhiJit> Qwert, what happen? leave it
[13:13]  * Dr_Willis is so popular people ask for me by name...
[13:13] <koukou> qwert
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> :)
[13:13] <spool> POVaddct: crap you're right.
[13:13] <koukou> help
[13:14] <mr_hai> Gnea, I had let the OS do a FS check the thime i booted it that lead to me updating the system
[13:14] <AbhiJit> wrong name i.e.
[13:14] <koukou> qwert :
[13:14] <Qwert> koukou:
[13:14] <koukou> qwert : i need help
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> State the actual question/problem and see who can help.. just asking 'help' dosent really do much
[13:14] <POVaddct> spool: i knew the change of the libc wouldn't go without pain...
[13:14] <belgianguy> does anybody know the difference between GRUB and a system called Anaconda?
[13:14] <Gnea> mr_hai: I understand that, but for now it would be a good sanity check to make sure it will fsck without providing any other error before continuing
[13:14] <koukou> qwert : i dont can logg into mysql
[13:14] <POVaddct> spool: i still don't understand why debian changed to eglibc anyway..
[13:15] <koukou> dr_willis :
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> koukou:  I Dont use MySql.
[13:15] <koukou> dr_willis : i dont can logg into mysal
[13:15] <spool> POVaddct: well, when I ran gentoo a few years ago on ppc, I ended up in a glibc gcc catch-22 when the versions got out of sync
[13:15] <dr0id> Dr_Willis: why not ?
[13:15] <koukou> dr_willis : i use it
[13:15] <dr0id> mysql is good :)
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> dr0id:  err... befause i dont have a use for it...
[13:16] <dr0id> ohh
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> dr0id:  :)
[13:16] <dr0id> so you arnt into programming
[13:16] <dr0id> :)
[13:16] <dr0id> sorry ;)
[13:16] <spool> POVaddct: that was the end of my gentoo days, went ruefully back to ubuntu, though I learned a lot in the process
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> all my leet coding needs. i can do in Perl. :)
[13:16] <koukou> dr_willis : i use it i dont logg into it using ubuntu on flash disk
[13:17] <xbonesx> trying to change my splash for gnome
[13:17] <xbonesx> requires the image be in .so format <--- how do i do this?
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  latest ubuntu uses Plymouth for the main fancy animations
[13:17] <belgianguy> is there a 'sure' way to drop to command line on each and every Linux version on boot?
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:17] <xbonesx> 9.04
[13:17] <xbonesx> im still donwload ing the new one
[13:17] <koukou> dr_willis : i see this ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> belgianguy:  append 'init=/bin/bash' or similer to the kernel option normally works.
[13:18] <coolroot--> is lxde working on ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[13:18] <Somelauw> When downloading by torrent, can I watch part of the serie before the download has finished?
[13:18] <mr_hai> Gnea, it returns clean
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  10.XX dont use the old method. so you may as well save your time.
[13:18] <belgianguy> Dr_Willis: I can't access anything, it's a SIP server and it locks up on boot
[13:18] <belgianguy> Dr_Willis: ACPI error
[13:18] <Gnea> mr_hai: alright, go ahead and mount it again and see if you get anymore errors while trying to install/update
[13:18] <xbonesx> waiting for it too download, i have nothing but time
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> Somelauw:  ive seen torrent clients that can download eposiodes in order.  by default you would get ep 1 done in theory befor the rest.. but that often dosent work that way.
[13:18] <xbonesx> lol
[13:18] <xbonesx> :p
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  read up on the ubuntu manual perhaps. :)
[13:19] <koukou> how use mysqlon ubuntu
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> Somelauw:  i tend to just set the first 5 eps to High Priority, and then  the rest to low.. and stagger them as they get done
[13:19] <koukou> how use mysql on ubuntu
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> !mysql
[13:19] <xbonesx> just need to know of a program that converts images to .so ext.
[13:19] <koukou> ya mysql
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> !splash
[13:19] <koukou> why
[13:20] <magnetron> Somelauw: i use Deluge, but Transmission works too. what you do is taht you set the first episode to the HIGHEST priority, while letting the final episodes have a lower priority
[13:20] <craigbass1976> Anyone know how to get a pdf to somehoe print to scale?  I've got an architect's plan and I'm struggling to put a kitchen in it because all the dimesnions aren't in there.  GIMP works, but is a wicked pain to make do this.
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> koukou:  so you have  - 0 - knowledge of MySql ?
[13:20] <mr_hai> Gnea, update-initramfs suceeded
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> BBL wife is calling.. shes been sick.
[13:20] <Gnea> mr_hai: awesome
[13:20] <Somelauw> Dr_Willis, magnesium I use Transmission and I will try changing priority.
[13:20] <mr_hai> Gnea, udev reinstalled sucessfully
[13:20] <koukou> ya  i tip mysql 'ipadreese'
[13:21] <magnetron> craigbass1976: which PDF reader are you using? evince?
[13:21] <koukou> nothing
[13:21] <mr_hai> Gnea,  how do i check to make sure it will boot?
[13:21] <astrojp> What's the command to get ubuntu to show those scrolling boot up messages?
[13:21] <AbhiJit> !info alsa
[13:21] <Gnea> mr_hai: make sure your /etc/fstab is set in order
[13:21] <AbhiJit> :(
[13:21] <craigbass1976> magnetron, yes
[13:21] <max> hi
[13:22] <nothingspecial> astrojp: after it`s booted
[13:23] <rockhopper> Hi, can someone help me with the updates download please!
[13:23] <Somelauw> I didn't know you can change the priorities of specific files. (I used (mu)torrent before)
[13:23] <AbhiJit> dont download. latest updates have loooooots of bugs
[13:24] <rockhopper> AbhiJit, my problem's not exactly with the new updates
[13:24] <astrojp> nothingspecial: all linux distros use to do this, while booting up it would show scroll up the boot up process.
[13:24] <AbhiJit> :(
[13:24] <ikar> hi, what program do i need to open a f.eks test.o ?
[13:24] <rockhopper> AbhiJit, Even when i try to download any app, like vlc.. The downloads stall in the middle for sometime
[13:24] <AbhiJit> rockhopper, i am thinking for life withouth comptuer
[13:24] <belgianguy> anyone have an idea how I 'drop to cmd line' when booting _any_ linux?
[13:25] <rockhopper> AbhiJit, when i download updates for jolicloud, which's based on ubuntu jaunty, it downloads fine
[13:25]  * Gnea facepalms
[13:25] <nothingspecial> it`s hidden in Ubuntu, type dmesg, or do you want to disable the boot splash
[13:25] <belgianguy> is there something like 'hit Esc'?
[13:25] <astrojp> I'm thinking you have now set some flag options for Grub to enable this.
[13:26] <Somelauw> Is it safe to try playing a movie if I don't know whether the movie is complete?
[13:26] <magnetron> belgianguy: ctrl+alt+f1 usually works (ctrl+alt+f7 to get back)
[13:26] <rockhopper> AbhiJit, only problem's with this UNR (lucid) Can there be a problem with the repository archive?
[13:26] <nothingspecial> yes, have a look at the grub2 wiki
[13:26] <AbhiJit> rockhopper, dunno
[13:26] <belgianguy> magnetron: ah thanks, I'll try that
[13:26] <rockhopper> Somelauw, Yes it is! unless if you're torrenting
[13:27] <astrojp> nothingspecial: I just want to see a black screen with all of the boot messages. The splash screen hides this, right?
[13:27] <Somelauw> rockhopper, of course I am torrenting.
[13:27] <younder> I am having trouble with the stabillity of the system after a kernel update today
[13:27] <nothingspecial> yes, you can disable it though
[13:27] <astrojp> nothingspecial: thanks.
[13:27] <Qwert> Gnea: What do you say then?
[13:27] <younder> I get a lot of fork: resource temporarily unavailable
[13:27] <rockhopper> Somelauw, then you can play the movie! if its downloading as one file, unlike downloading a file with multiple connections per download
[13:27] <Gnea> Qwert: huh?
[13:28] <astrojp> nothingspecial: Ah, this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[13:28] <Qwert> Gnea: About the last method not being non-ubuntu.
[13:28] <rockhopper> Somelauw, it'll play till the movie's downloaded! try playing it with vlc and don't repair the file when it asks for it!
[13:28] <younder> How do I revert to an older version? It seems all the older kernel versions are deleted.
[13:28] <nothingspecial> yes
[13:28] <Gnea> Qwert: are you illiterate? I told you the conversation was over.
[13:29] <Qwert> Gnea: You seems to be to end w/o proper query.
[13:29] <Gnea> Qwert: don't make me have to /ignore you here, too...
[13:29] <BlueEagle> !ot
[13:29] <BlueEagle> !manners
[13:30] <Qwert> Gnea: Here TOO! as in?
[13:30] <Gnea> Qwert: welcome to /ignore
[13:30] <Qwert> Gnea: you as well
[13:30] <BlueEagle> Qwert and gnea: Please take it somewhere else.
[13:30] <Gnea> BlueEagle: please to be minding your own business.
[13:30] <Qwert> ignore Gnea
[13:31] <IdleOne> let's all be nice please
[13:31] <AbhiJit> Qwert, its /ignore
[13:31] <AbhiJit> :)
[13:31] <Qwert> Sorry channel
[13:31] <Gnea> IdleOne: got a minute in PM?
[13:32] <IdleOne> always
[13:33] <mr_hai> Gnea, it didnt work
[13:33] <yuvateja> my pendrive is detected when using command SUDO FDISK -L but not display on desktop .
[13:34] <astrojp> Hrm, was hoping that there was a key I could just press during boot up to show this (I think Suse use to let you do this). I don't really care to start screwing with the boot loader options, it's not that important. Thanks for the info, I appreciate it!
[13:34] <magnetron> yuvateja: is it formatted?
[13:35] <BlueEagle> yuvateja: Are you a member of the group plugdev?
[13:36] <nothingspecial> magnetron: is nautilus configured to show mounted drives?
[13:36] <Qwert> nothingspecial: Yes
[13:36] <coolroot--> does anyone here uses lxde?
[13:36] <nothingspecial> magnetron: is it mounted?
[13:36] <yuvateja> BlueEagle:no
[13:37] <nothingspecial> coolroot: yes but only for a day
[13:37] <yuvateja> magnetron:
[13:37] <BlueEagle> yuvateja: Well if you ´ls -l /dev/sd*` you may find that the drive is in the plugdev group. You would then have to add yourself to that group to be able to use it.
[13:39] <BlueEagle> yuvateja: Please note that you may need to log off and back in for the changes to take effect.
[13:41] <spool> POVaddct: thanks so very much for your help. I'm creating a patched 1.22 deb now on my vmware lucid install
[13:41] <POVaddct> spool: no problem
[13:41] <spool> POVaddct: which will will then install, then cp the created tar binary to my server
[13:41] <spool> POVaddct: then use that to fix the installations of everything else
[13:42] <Gnea> mr_hai: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab ?
[13:43] <spool> POVaddct: do you think it's worth trying to get a different hosting service? I'd rather not have this be a constant problem.
[13:44] <claudio66> Hi, problem with printer epson stylus D92. It doesn't work. No one page I've printed at now. Is there anybody who shared the same problem and can help me?
[13:44] <spool> POVaddct: constant in the sense that by being forced to run an older kernel, I'll run into other incompatibilities down the road
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> claudio66:  check the cups.org site to see how well supporrted the printer is for starters.  - has it EVER worked?
[13:44] <Gnea> claudio66: have you checked the status of it on http://linuxprinting.org ?
[13:44] <mr_hai> Gnea,  http://pastebin.com/5zgC2Yhe
[13:45] <Gnea> mr_hai: okay, looks good, you ought to be able to reboot and it should still work fine
[13:45] <st__> what is an address of gdm background?
[13:45] <POVaddct> spool: i don't know xen very well. maybe some other hosting service is using kvm?
[13:45] <AbhiJit> cat: /proc/asound/card0/codec#*: No such file or directory help
[13:45] <mr_hai> Gnea, thats EXACTLY the same thing it sshowed the last time
[13:46] <Gnea> mr_hai: then it looks right.
[13:46] <mr_hai> Gnea,  i get this specific  errror on boot http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8079302
[13:46] <AbhiJit> i dont have /proc/asound directory. why?
[13:46] <spool> POVaddct: mmm... kvm is a virtual machine I assume... which would allow the kernel to be upgraded by the user?
[13:47] <amanita_> d
[13:47] <Gnea> AbhiJit: because someone had you do something wrong.
[13:47] <mr_hai> Gnea, im sorry thats page 2 of the thread
[13:47] <POVaddct> spool: yes. you run your own kernel in kvm. btw, kvm is part of the mainline kernel, which xev isn't.
[13:47] <Gnea> mr_hai: should I go to the start of page1?
[13:48] <mr_hai> Gnea, yes
[13:48] <AbhiJit> anyone help?
[13:48] <spool> POVaddct: mmm cool that's very useful. Right now for the moment of truth!
[13:49] <Gnea> mr_hai: oooooh, I think I see... so it's barfing at the blkid of /var?
[13:49] <Kangarooo> hello i cant install java.. sun-java6-jre has no cadidate versions
[13:49] <mr_hai> Gnea, I think it might be /var I didnt record the UUID unfortunaltey
[13:49] <Gnea> AbhiJit: can you back your /home up somewhere?
[13:50] <mr_hai> Gnea, is there a way to replicate the error in a chroot?
[13:50] <Gnea> mr_hai: that's okay, we can work around it.
[13:50] <claudio66> Dr_Willis, on the cups db the never worked...
[13:51] <AbhiJit> cat: /proc/asound/card0/codec#*: No such file or directory help
[13:51] <Gnea> AbhiJit: can you read what I'm typing?
[13:51] <NullProphecy> Hi all. I have one of these awesome devices: http://www.quaduro.com/en/gb/products/src.php?id=6, which I'm planning to use as the basis of an embedded appliance. I've got 10.04 installed and all works great, with the exception of the touchscreen. It shows up as /dev/input/mouse1 (verified with sudo cat /dev/input/mouse1), and registers input (ie. moves the mouse). I'm running into problems
[13:51] <NullProphecy> trying to calibrate it using the evtouch drivers. I've made all the required changes to my xorg.conf, but neither the evtouch calibrator, or the one from chapter7.ch works! Any ideas?
[13:51] <FloodBot1> NullProphecy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:52] <spool> POVaddct: huzzah!! thanks so much. Worked a charm :)
[13:52] <PrinceKapHot> Hi there ?
[13:53] <Gnea> PrinceKapHot: Hi, haven't done the touchscreen yet, but this is where I'd start: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158666
[13:53] <PrinceKapHot> I'm having trouble with adobe flash on xubuntu 64, videos are sluggish...
[13:53] <Gnea> oops
[13:54] <NullProphecy> thats for the microtouch driver - afaik this is egalax based (possibly)
[13:54] <Gnea> NullProphecy: see ^^^
[13:54] <claudio66> Gnea, on open printing the a printer compatible seems present. But actually I'm using cups for printing. How can I set the open printing drivers?
[13:54] <Gnea> PrinceKapHot: sorry, wrong person
[13:54] <PrinceKapHot> Gnea, I know :-)
[13:54] <Gnea> claudio66: cups uses open printing drivers
[13:54] <Gnea> PrinceKapHot: okay :)
[13:55] <claudio66> gnea, http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Epson/Epson-Stylus_D92 seems to work fine....
[13:58] <viral> hey, anyone around that can help me with grub2?
[13:58] <Jonta> lightweight program for viewing *.ppt?
[13:59] <Gnea> claudio66: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=491972 seems to point to the use of the turboprint driver
[13:59] <Gnea> !info pptviewer
[13:59] <Gnea> oh, heh
[13:59] <Gnea> !info pptview
[14:00] <Gnea> !info ppthtml
[14:00] <PrinceKapHot> if anyone's interested : I managed to solve my "flash player is sluggish" problem by installing the (experimental) 64bits version
[14:00] <Gnea> viral: there might be, if you state what your problem is
[14:01] <jordi__> Q: how do i mount my mint partition to ubuntu : sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/luxmint doesnt works
[14:01] <viral> mm sorry, just installed ubuntu on a 3rd harddrive, except now my comp automatically boots to this.
[14:01] <chibihogoshino> anyone having internet problems ?
[14:01] <magnetron> chibihogoshino: yes, i guess you are?
[14:01] <viral> i want to add an entry to the grub menu to get myself into it but i haven't quite worked out how to do it despite lots of googling
[14:02] <mr_hai> viral, run update grub and grub install
[14:02] <viral> in addition, taking out the hard drive with linux doesn't work either, it gives me some grub info
[14:02] <mr_hai> thats should fix it
[14:02] <alexandru1994199> hello
[14:02] <viral> then puts it in grub_recovery
[14:02] <chibihogoshino> magnetron: yes.. im connected to im and irc but cant access any web sites.
[14:02] <erUSUL> jordi__: how it fails?
[14:02] <chibihogoshino> can ping google and any thing else, just no more than that
[14:02] <viral> mr_hai, got the commands? I'm _very_ new to linux.
[14:03] <mr_hai> viral, you need to "update-grub" and then "grub-install /dev/deviceid"
[14:03] <NullProphecy> right. the touchscreen is apparently a D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd eGalax TouchScreen - am I better off using the evtouch drivers, or the specific eGalax ones?
[14:03] <mr_hai> viral find the device id with "sudo fdisk -l"
[14:03] <viral> do i want to remove the entry i put in?
[14:03] <jordi__> says /mnt/luxmint does not exist
[14:04] <mr_hai> viral do not add entries manually, this will make a new boot list with all the found OS's on your HDDs
[14:04] <Jonta> Gnea: Thanks. (Had to reboot there)
[14:04] <viral> ah.
[14:04] <alexandru1994199> my computer  screen freezes and green dots start apearing on it
[14:04] <erUSUL> jordi__: create it; « sudo mkdir /mnt/luxmint »
[14:04] <mr_hai> viral install it to the master HDD
[14:04] <erUSUL> jordi__: mount points must be alredy existing ( ideally empty ) directories
[14:04] <Gnea> NullProphecy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=916493
[14:04] <Gnea> Jonta: cheers
[14:05] <mr_hai> Gnea,  its not making a menu.lst
[14:05] <mr_hai> this is odd
[14:05] <NullProphecy> dnea - cheers :)
[14:05] <jordi__> k thx erUSUL
[14:05] <NullProphecy> *gnea
[14:06] <viral> err.. honestly not sure which i'm looking for? assume it's sda1 hpfs/ntfs?
[14:06] <mr_hai> viral pastebin the results of "fdisk -l"
[14:06] <viral> then there's sdc1 which looks almost identical, just no star next to the boot
[14:06] <viral> guess storage drive
[14:06] <viral> kk
[14:07] <Gnea> mr_hai: grub2 doesn't, it makes a grub.cfg
[14:07] <barry> Hello, everyone
[14:07] <mr_hai> viral, sdc is the first scsi disk
[14:07] <echie> hellow
[14:07] <barry> May I help you?
[14:07] <viral> http://pastebin.com/A1XFJ2Ba
[14:07] <mr_hai> viral can you tell me how you have your hard disks installed in your computer?
[14:07] <Gnea> !grub2
[14:07] <viral> how do you mean
[14:08] <felixal> Hi, if I boot from an ubuntu liveCD and install it onto a usb flash drive, will it work?
[14:08] <AbhiJit> felixal: yes
[14:08] <alexandru1994199> my computer freezes and green dots appear on ecran.can anyone help me?
[14:08] <mr_hai> viral, im assuming you have windows on /dev/sda , linux on /dev/sdb , and windows on dev/sdc?
[14:09] <felixal> nice, thanks AbhiJit
[14:09] <viral> uh
[14:09] <viral> suppose so yeah
[14:09] <alexandru1994199> my computer freezes and green dots appear on the screen .can anyone help me?
[14:09] <viral> i have 3 HDDs, one with windows, one for storage (which i guess makes it windows too?) and one i just installed linux on
[14:09] <viral> the storage one and linux one is the same type, but they all have the same storage capacity
[14:10] <mr_hai> viral Which device is the storage disk
[14:10] <AbhiJit> felixal: np
[14:10] <viral> how do i find out
[14:10] <viral> lol
[14:10] <mr_hai> mount it and give me the device id
[14:11] <juk_____5> hi, how to create scalable icons, do I need to put each of size at /hicolor/ with respective size, or just one in /pixmaps or /hicolor/scalable how to convert to svg, i tried with convert but it rendered png in black
[14:11] <mr_hai> viral "mkdir /mnt/sda ; mount /dev/sda /mnt/sda"
[14:11] <viral> what does mounting do (and how do i do it?)
[14:11] <viral> kk ty
[14:11] <mr_hai> viral "mkdir /mnt/sda ; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda" i meant
[14:11] <viral> that won't affect it when i use windows will it?
[14:12] <mr_hai> viral no it wont
[14:12] <younder> I am having trouble with the stabillity of the system after a kernel update today
[14:12] <younder> I get a lot of fork: resource temporarily unavailable
[14:12] <mr_hai> viral is that showing the windows OS when you open the folder?
[14:13] <erdnase> Excuse me, is there a channel for python support? Or just python? I need to ask them something regarding gasp.
[14:13] <viral> got this when i tried to mount: http://pastebin.com/gb9nz9Kh
[14:14] <juk_____5> im using docky and some pics are looking shiny, some not even if same size
[14:14] <AbhiJit> younder: todays updates are giving lots of problem to many users
[14:14] <TanLizxxx> Hey,man
[14:14] <bazhang> erdnase, /msg alis list *python*
[14:14] <mr_hai> viral...... how did you shout down windows the last time you booted it?
[14:14] <liujun> HI, how are you ,everybody
[14:14] <viral> uh
[14:14] <sander> Anyone know about a good accounting program?
[14:14] <viral> shut it down via the menu?
[14:14] <viral> i believe
[14:15] <erdnase> bazhang, oh, handy tool, thanks.
[14:15] <mr_hai> viral... you have RAID setup?
[14:15] <viral> maybe it's something do with me trying to open my manual thingo of it before trying to open this?
[14:15] <viral> not sure
[14:15] <viral> my brother is the tech guy
[14:15] <IdleOne> AbhiJit: Please stop blaming the updates on your problems
[14:16] <viral> i honestly know verrry little
[14:16] <AbhiJit> IdleOne: hmm
[14:16] <IdleOne> AbhiJit: half compiling alsa drivers when you didn't need to is what is part of your issue
[14:16] <AbhiJit> IdleOne: ok
[14:16] <IdleOne> AbhiJit: I recommend you backup your /home and do a clean install
[14:16] <IdleOne> !separatehome > AbhiJit
[14:16] <AbhiJit> IdleOne: yah i m doing that only
[14:17] <mr_hai> viral... you need to boot into windows and let checkdisk run
[14:17] <younder> AbhiJit, How do I revert to a older version of the kernal? It seems to have deleted my older versionsin /boot? Do I have to git mad make a older version?
[14:17] <viral> that's the whole problem
[14:17] <viral> i can't boot into windows
[14:17] <AbhiJit> younder: dunno
[14:17] <viral> :c
[14:17] <Gnea> AbhiJit: I'm sorry about what that other fellow had you do, I had no idea that someone would do that
[14:17] <rapage> hey guys
[14:17] <rapage> how to load ubuntu is terminal mode
[14:18] <AbhiJit> Gnea: ok
[14:18] <Galik> Hi. Is it possible to change the Chat program in the Indicator Applet to launch a different chat program rather than empathy? I want to use Gajim. If it can't be made to point to Gajim is there a way to disable the chat option from the Indicator Applet?
[14:18] <bazhang> !nox | rapage
[14:18] <mr_hai> viral, try "update-grub ; grub-install /dev/sdb1"
[14:19] <viral> argh
[14:19] <viral> rm: cannot remove `/boot/grub/915resolution.mod': Permission denied
[14:19] <user001> hello. what do i have to do be able to input "thai" characters please?
[14:19] <mr_hai> viral follow this tutorial and use the /dev/sdb device bhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[14:19] <bazhang> !ibus | user001
[14:19] <user001> thx
[14:20] <marcoceppi> I'm having a hard time finding the defaults.conf file for GDM in 10.10 - has it been (re)moved?
[14:20] <Gnea> AbhiJit: most of the time, people are pretty good about following the Ubuntu-way of solving problems around here. this guy came along from out of nowhere, it seems, and fed you some misinformation. I would not have had you do that.
[14:20] <bazhang> marcoceppi, #ubuntu+1 for that
[14:20] <marcoceppi> bazhang, thanks!
[14:20] <AbhiJit> Gnea: i having blucid
[14:20] <AbhiJit> lucid*
[14:21] <liujun> Hi , Do you know "qq"?
[14:21] <mr_hai> AbhiJit, i have a blucid too :(
[14:21] <Gnea> AbhiJit: had all standard methods had been exhausted, and if your soundcard was truly non-functional with what already exists, then yes, I would have had you download the latest alsa drivers, but there were several more things that could have been done first.
[14:21] <HRH_H_Crab> hi, im running maverick and i have an m-audio audiophile. after rebooting following an update i seem to have lost sound, ive looked at alsamixer and gui controls and cant seem to find anything muted, can anyone assist?
[14:21] <AbhiJit> mr_hai: :D
[14:22] <bazhang> HRH_H_Crab, #ubuntu+1 for maverick
[14:22] <HRH_H_Crab> thanks
[14:22] <AbhiJit> Gnea: yah now reinstalling os
[14:22] <viral> mr_hai, from the very start when using sudo aptitude install grub-pc
[14:22] <viral>  i don't even get a prompt
[14:22] <albech> what is the opensource alternative to the Zeus Loadbalancer? I forgot the name
[14:22] <Gnea> AbhiJit: awesome
[14:22] <AbhiJit> Gnea: :(
[14:23] <TanLizxxx> Is that possible to encrypt a file folder without encrypting the files which under the directory?
[14:23] <Gnea> AbhiJit: I mean, awesome in the sense that it's being fixed, but not awesome that you have to reinstall just to fix it
[14:23] <mr_hai> Gnea, hd,0,4 is the fifth partition right? it starts at 0,0?
[14:23] <Gnea> mr_hai: correct
[14:23] <jrib> TanLizxxx: umm, what?
[14:24] <AbhiJit> Gnea: ohhhh :)
[14:24] <mr_hai> gnea..... THATS WHY :D :D :D
[14:24] <Gnea> mr_hai: :)
[14:24] <mr_hai> set root='(hd0,4)'
[14:24] <ahaz> My desktop won't load after I completed an update and restarted. I can still run firefox and access the filesystem though.
[14:24] <mr_hai> its should be 0,4
[14:24] <mr_hai> 0,3
[14:24] <TanLizxxx> jrib: i want to encrypt a file folder
[14:24] <jrib> TanLizxxx: what do you mean by "file folder"?
[14:25] <Gnea> mr_hai: watch out - logical partitions skip a number somewhere
[14:25] <Gnea> since the extended partition itself can never be used
[14:25] <dunithd> Ctrl+C doesn't work on my Gnome terminal, what should I do?
[14:25] <TanLizxxx> jrib just a folder....
[14:25] <Gnea> dunithd: ctrl+z
[14:25] <jrib> dunithd: what do you expect ctrl-c to do?
[14:25] <mr_hai> Gnea, .... I have the extended at the physical start of the drive does that matter?
[14:25] <IdleOne> dunithd: to copy?
[14:25] <jrib> TanLizxxx: ok, well use gpg or see ubottu I suppose
[14:26] <jrib> !encrypt | TanLizxxx
[14:26] <dunithd> to terminate a running shell script, Im on lucid
[14:26] <Gnea> mr_hai: should be fine, as long as you never reference 0,0
[14:26] <jrib> dunithd: how are you coming to the conclusion ctrl-c doesn't work?
[14:26] <Gnea> dunithd: have you tried ctrl-d?
[14:26] <TanLizxxx> thanks man
[14:27] <dunithd> coz I tried to shutdown several servers by pressing Ctrl+c as usual, but it didnt work
[14:27] <younder> For oe home is per default not on a seperate partion two. to restore the partion you cant be looged in as a user under home. That leaves root. And per default ubuntu doesn't have a root passwd. third you need to mkfs.ext4 8or ext3 depending on what your other partions are formatted as). I restored home from backup a week ago but it is not trivial.
[14:27] <jrib> !who | dunithd
[14:29] <jrib> dunithd: so if you type "cat" at an empty prompt, press enter, and then ctrl-c what happens?
[14:29] <Gnea> !pm > ahaz
[14:29] <younder> fourth. Now the Disk ID in /etc/fstab is wrong and you need to manually mount it then change the entry in fsab to reflect the new ID
[14:29] <Gnea> ahaz: was this a normal system update or did you upgrade to a different version altogether?
[14:30] <dunithd> jrib: nothing happened
[14:30] <jrib> dunithd: "nothing" is too vague.
[14:30] <jrib> dunithd: if you're not sure how to describe something with more detail, just pastebin everything in your terminal
[14:30] <dunithd> jrib: it was there as it is and cat command didnt terminated
[14:30] <annon> Hey! I want to change some GRUB settings (the ones that you can edit by pressing e in Grub), but /boot/grub/grub.cfg warns me I should not edit the file directly. Any way to do this correctly?
[14:31] <viral__> noo mr hai left
[14:31] <viral__> anybody else able to help me get grub to allow me to boot back into windows?
[14:31] <jrib> dunithd: is this behavior present for a freshly created new user?
[14:31] <Gnea> viral__: was it with grub or grub2?
[14:31] <Tanvir> Does 7zip has GUI support in ubuntu?
[14:31] <viral__> grub2
[14:31] <jrib> !7zip | Tanvir
[14:32] <dunithd> jrib: yes, I installed lucid recently as a fresh installation
[14:32] <histo> Tanvir: yes
[14:32] <ahaz> Gnea, it was a normal system update.
[14:32] <jrib> dunithd: create a new user and verify that the behavior exists there
[14:32] <Tanvir> histo, can you give me the command to install it, please?
[14:33] <Gnea> ahaz: what programs are not working right?
[14:33] <mrhai> Gnea, it worked :D
[14:33] <dunithd> jrib: ok I'll do it! many thanks!
[14:33] <histo> Tanvir: thats what the link from ubottu was about.
[14:33] <mrhai> !dbus
[14:33] <Gnea> viral__: what do you have setup so far?
[14:33] <Chr|s> I am trying to install Ubuntu. I have a clean install of Win7. Trying to dual boot. I also have 3 hard drives, 2 500gb and 1 TB. I want to install Windows and Ubuntu on the same drive, but whenever I try to do that, it the partitioner wants to put it on the TB drive. Have no idea what to do.
[14:33] <histo> Tanvir: let me check it
[14:33] <Tanvir> histo, yeah, got it.
[14:34] <viral__> Gnea: In terms of?
[14:34] <histo> Tanvir: p7zip is the package you need for archive manager to support it
[14:34] <Gnea> Chr|s: you should be able to choose like an 'advanced' selection and forcefully choose which drive/partition it installs to
[14:34] <mrhai> Chr|s, you must manually partition the drives before you install
[14:34] <viral__> probably nothing in all honesty
[14:34] <NullProphecy> Gnea: I've followed those instructions, however the TouchKit driver complains that it can't find the controller. I've sure I've set up my xorg.conf correctly. Any ideas?
[14:34] <histo> Tanvir: so doing the command sudo apt-get install p7zip     in a terminal will work
[14:34] <Katsumi32> Chr|s, under windows make free partition boot up live ubuntu and chosse the new created partition it wokred for me
[14:34] <mrhai> Chr|s, I would recommend you partition before installation
[14:34] <viral__> i really have no idea what i'm doing, i assumed linux would just add an option to boot into windows
[14:34] <IdleOne> mrhai: not exactly true, the partitioner should see all 3 drives and he can select
[14:34] <Gnea> NullProphecy: none, I've never done it before... you could try posting a follow-up to that article, or making a whole new post on ubuntuforums.org
[14:35] <Gnea> viral__: your grub.cfg
[14:35] <Chr|s> Katsumi32, mrhai thanks
[14:35] <histo> viral__: it should have created a menu entry to windows
[14:35] <ahaz> Gnea: I am still able to open application by selecting their executable file. I am running firefox as we speak. I cannot load desktop icons or the menu that is normally at the top of the screen.
[14:35] <Tanvir> histo, yes, it's working.
[14:35] <NullProphecy> Gnea: ok - will do. Thanks for your help all the same :)
[14:35] <viral__> histo: well apparently it didn't. :(
[14:35] <histo> viral__: assumi9ng you didn't remove windows and use the entire disk for linux
[14:35] <Gnea> ahaz: is the bar across the top of the screen?
[14:35] <viral__> histo: installed on a seperate HDD
[14:36] <viral__> Gnea: where abouts is that located, and what am i looking for in it?
[14:36] <ahaz> Gnea: nope :/ .
[14:36] <Tanvir> histo, can you help me on running IBUS on startup? I don't know how to do it.
[14:36] <Gnea> viral__: /boot/grub/
[14:36] <Gnea> viral__: can you pastebin it?
[14:36] <viral__> sure
[14:36] <histo> Tanvir: what is IBUS?
[14:36] <Tanvir> histo, I need to run IBUS to use different keyboard.
[14:37] <histo> Tanvir: yeha sure let me find some info for ya
[14:37] <Tanvir> histo, System > Preferences > IBus Preferences
[14:37] <Gnea> ahaz: does alt-f2 bring up a run dialog?
[14:37] <Tanvir> histo, the problem is I don't know the command of this application.
[14:37] <Kangarooo> hello in xubuntu i installed vino and cant connect unles i open vino-preferences in terminal .. is that solvable? how?
[14:38] <ahaz> Gnea: yes. I'm glad to see something of that sort.
[14:38] <Gnea> okay, now type this in the run dialog:  gnome-panel
[14:38] <mickey> Anyone know how to connect a ubuntu computer to a bt home hub? i cant get it to connect even if i disable the security
[14:38] <histo> Tanvir: go to system > Preferences > Startup applications and click Add.  then name it something like ibus daemon and the command should be /usr/bin/ibus-daemon -d
[14:39] <viral__> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/DNxSz1ev
[14:39] <histo> Tanvir: make sure that /usr/bin/ibus-daemon is the actual path
[14:39] <histo> Tanvir: try something like locate ibus-daemon   in a terminal
[14:39] <Katsumi32> mickey, are you trying to connect wifi or direct ?
[14:39] <mickey> wifi
[14:40] <histo> Tanvir: yeah nvm thats where it is.
[14:40] <ahaz> Gnea: it doesn't seem to respond to the command.
[14:40] <Katsumi32> mickey, if you wifi card inside or its usb>??
[14:40] <mickey> usb
[14:40] <Gnea> ahaz: try xterm
[14:41] <Katsumi32> mickey, type in terminal lsusb and tell me name of your card
[14:41] <histo> Tanvir: this thread has a lot of info about it.  Youc an change your default input and ignore all this starting on boot etc.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7922032
[14:41] <Gnea> viral__: so you're using the second partition of the second hard drive?
[14:41] <viral__> should be first partition of 3rd HDD
[14:41] <viral__> _should_ be
[14:41] <viral__> i don't think i screwed it up that badly lol
[14:41] <Tanvir> histo, looking.
[14:41] <mickey> i cant as i have ubuntu and windows on the same computer
[14:41] <ahaz> Gnea: the terminal is up now.
[14:42] <mickey> cant connect at all on ubuntu
[14:42] <histo> viral__: can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[14:42] <Gnea> ahaz: alright, try this:  ps axf | grep gnome-panel
[14:43] <histo> Tanvir: there are also IRC channels in different languages if soemthing else is your native language.
[14:43] <Katsumi32> micky boot up ubuntu and connect directly internet or check what card do you in control panel device manager network
[14:43] <arunkumar413> i friends, i'm trying to make notepad application using MonoDevelop. I'm writing the backend code in c#. i want to know the classes and methods used to change font parameters like colour,size and type
[14:43] <ahaz> Gnea: would you like the output from that?
[14:43] <iGhost> hi
[14:43] <Gnea> ahaz: if it's more than 2 lines, in a pastebin please
[14:43] <viral__> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/DqqC0NfM
[14:43] <histo> arunkumar413: wrong channel for that. this is ubuntu support
[14:43] <ahaz> Gnea: okay
[14:44] <histo> arunkumar413: I would try the mono chanel
[14:44] <Tanvir> histo, is there a channel for Bengali language? It's my native lang.
[14:44] <histo> Tanvir: let me check
[14:44] <Kangarooo> hello why in ubuntu cant install sun-java6-jre ?
[14:44] <Kangarooo> no candidate available
[14:44] <arunkumar413> histo: there are only few members in it
[14:44] <IdleOne> Kangarooo: Did you enable the Partner repository?
[14:45] <Gnea> viral__: http://blogs.koolwal.net/2008/12/28/windows-xpvista-dual-boot-does-not-boot-from-grub2-or-grub-pc/
[14:45] <arunkumar413> histo: moreover i'm working on ubuntu
[14:45] <Kangarooo> IdleOne: whats that? if not by default then not. i have clean install
[14:45] <viral__> gnea: tried that earlier
[14:45] <IdleOne> Kangarooo: in System > Administration > Software Sources. enable the Partner repository and then sun will be available
[14:45] <Gnea> viral__: I'm not seeing a windows entry in your grub.cfg
[14:45] <mickey> nvidia nforce networking controller
[14:45] <LinuxGuy2009> Ive got an error after trying to install some packages and I have no clue how to fix this one. E: Could not perform immediate configuration on already unpacked 'base-files'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. I checked that man page and it doesnt really say how to fix it. Is my system broken and I need a clean install?
[14:46] <viral__> Gnea: I removed it under the advice of mr_hai
[14:46] <^wizard> hello
[14:46] <viral__> something about it being added to all HDDs or the like
[14:46] <viral__> can't remember exactly what the reason was
[14:46] <viral__> i'll do it again.
[14:46] <mickey> or do you mean N61 802.11n wireless usb adaptor
[14:46] <Tanvir> histo, p7zip installation completed. But I can't find it. Where it is?
[14:47] <^wizard> i have a Q how can i make my laptop auto shutdown when it reaches some temp?
[14:47] <Gnea> viral__: okay. try adding it back, making sure you have the correct drive listed there. notice how it's using (1,1) for your ubuntu stuff - that's the second partition of the second hard drive
[14:47] <ahaz> Gnea: I am embarrassed to ask, but how do I copy from the terminal.
[14:47] <Katsumi32> mickey, are you able to connect internet directly using wire ? instead wifi? if so boot up ubuntu and connect directly
[14:47] <histo> Tanvir: it installed the command line version; however, now you can just click on a 7zip and use archive manager that will pop up
[14:48] <viral__> Gnea: Yeah, I had (hd0,1) at first, which i think gave me a 'no such partition error', then tried (hd0,0) which said invalid signature
[14:48] <Gnea> ahaz: no problem - just select it with your mouse using the left-drag method, then right-click on it, select copy, then paste it into the webpage
[14:48] <mickey> i cant as the computer is in opposite side of the house to the home hub
[14:48] <Gnea> viral__: okay heh, do you recall which drive you installed windows to?
[14:48] <viral__> i know it's the samsung one...
[14:48] <viral__> :s
[14:48] <IdleOne> hehe
[14:49] <Gnea> :)
[14:49] <IdleOne> that's a start
[14:49] <viral__> lol
[14:49] <mickey> :S
[14:49] <adac> Hi!
[14:49] <histo> !bn | Tanvir   is that bengali?
[14:50] <Katsumi32> mickey cant you move your pc for one hour? its important cuz we need to find what chip does your card have and if ubuntu recognise your card at all.
[14:50] <adac> Wondering where is the crontab file? NOrmally you do crontab -e to edit it...but where is it written?
[14:50] <Tanvir> histo, yes, it is.
[14:50] <ahaz> Gnea: I had been trying that. I can highlight the text, but right-clicking doesn't bring up anything. Strange, no?
[14:51] <histo> Tanvir: then #ubuntu-bd should be in your native language
[14:51] <Gnea> ahaz: try highlighting it again, then just go to the webpage and middle-click to paste
[14:51] <Tanvir> histo, and I'm there now. :)
[14:51] <llutz> adac: /var/spool/cron/crontabs
[14:51] <mickey> not really :S
[14:51] <viral__> Gnea: If it helps, windows was the first OS I installed, before I added any other HDDs or OSs. I think (physically) it's the middle of the 3 drives, if that helps at al
[14:51] <adac> llutz, thx a lot
[14:51] <Tanvir> histo, the 7zip issue. It didn't work.
[14:51] <Katsumi32> mickey and it will be a way easier to insteal driver for your card under ubuntu instead downloading to windows than boot ubuntu try to install it etc etc lot of problems better if you could find some wire and connect ubuntu directly for 30 or somthing min
[14:51] <Gnea> viral__: well, not sure how it would be on a 'middle' partition..
[14:52] <viral__> not partition
[14:52] <Katsumi32> mickey there is info about your card on your card tell me what it is ?
[14:52] <viral__> 3 separate HDDs
[14:52] <ahaz> Gnea: sorry, no luck with that method.
[14:52] <Gnea> viral__: well as I see it, if you have 3 hdds, you've got ubuntu on the middle drive already
[14:52] <mickey> i dont know how to find it
[14:52] <Tanvir> histo, see the error message. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/nj8hXVgu
[14:52] <mickey> im a noob
[14:52] <viral__> hm.
[14:52] <mysteryguy> Hello, i've been trying to do an ubuntu update for the past 2 days, leaving the pc on all the time, but it stopped here: "Unpacking replacement gzip ..."
[14:52] <Gnea> ahaz: okay, let's try something else... try running this:  gnome-terminal
[14:53] <Katsumi32> mickey, on your card are symbols and card name i need to know what card do you have
[14:53] <viral__> Gnea: I'm finding with that tutorial you linked, when updating grub2 I don't get the 'adding windows' echo, That a problem?
[14:53] <rapage> hola
[14:53] <viral__> wait nvm
[14:53] <viral__> got it
[14:53] <rapage> I have a questione
[14:53] <Katsumi32> rapage, hola senor
[14:53] <viral__> chmod didn't have permission apparently.
[14:53] <Gnea> viral__: the idea isn't to paste in all of that code - it's only use is for the specific application being used - obviously, you'll want to use only the portions specific to grub.cfg
[14:54] <histo> Tanvir: have you tried any other 7z files? maybe that one is bad.
[14:54] <^wizard> can anybody help: how can i make my laptop auto shutdown when it reaches some temp?
[14:54] <Gnea> rapage: ask it
[14:54] <rapage> I've like to knwo if it's possible for someone to hear what you type on your keytboards and know what keys \were pressed or determine it bythe little electrical current
[14:54] <Tanvir> histo, yes.
[14:54] <viral__> i'm not sure which ones are needed
[14:54] <bazhang> rapage, that has nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:54] <viral__> aren't they all specific to grub?
[14:54] <rapage> ,m
[14:54] <Gnea> rapage: it probably is, but that's beyond the scope of #ubuntu, might want to try #linux or #hardware
[14:55] <Katsumi32> rapage, yes
[14:55] <mickey> do i need to open up the computer to see the card?
[14:55] <rapage> .,
[14:55] <bazhang> rapage, #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:55] <viral__> whaaata
[14:55] <rapage> Katsumi32, pm me is important
[14:55] <viral__> it seems to be working now!
[14:55] <Katsumi32> mickey, get your wifi card to your hand read the info on it and tell me whats the model etc
[14:55] <viral__> ..in that case i have no idea why it wouldn't work earlier when i tried it.
[14:55] <viral__> regardless
[14:56] <slow-motion> hi
[14:56] <viral__> many, many thanks gnea
[14:56] <ShredMaster> I have a new idea......
[14:56] <viral__> saved me a huge headache
[14:56] <viral__> appreciate it mate
[14:56] <Gnea> :)
[14:56] <ahaz> Gnea: here is the output from the command you gave me: http://pastebin.com/DPPE2y7V
[14:56] <Gnea> viral__: cheers
[14:56] <mickey> sorry if im being stupid but im using a usb sitck to connect to the internet
[14:56] <viral__> now my windows thinks it's 2pm
[14:56] <viral__> either way
[14:56] <viral__> it's working
[14:56] <viral__> :P
[14:56] <FloodBot1> viral__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:56] <IdleOne> mickey: the computer Ubuntu is on with no wifi is the same as the one you are using now with windows correct?
[14:57] <mickey> correct
[14:57] <Gnea> ahaz: okay, looks like it's already running.... weird...... do you have a panel running on the bottom of the screen?
[14:57] <viral__> i'll be off then. thanks again Gnea. :)
[14:57] <mysteryguy> Hello, i've been trying to do an ubuntu update for the past 2 days, leaving the pc on all the time, but it stopped here: "Unpacking replacement gzip ..."
[14:57] <IdleOne> mickey: do you have a USB stick you can save info to and then come back to windows and give us that info?
[14:57] <mickey> yes
[14:57] <ShredMaster> Hey, My internet is very very slow. So , I was thinking that if I could work with OPERA-MINI Mobile version. Because that would reduce the overall size of the page..
[14:58] <liujun> Is someone from china?
[14:58] <Katsumi32> mickey can you get the usb dongle to your hand and check what model it is ?
[14:58] <liujun> Hi
[14:58] <swampt> How do I list what interrupts are assigned to a list of devices?
[14:58] <IdleOne> mickey: ok boot Ubuntu then in a terminal type: lsusb   copy the output and then come back here and give it to Katsumi32 so he can continue helping
[14:58] <bazhang> liujun, in #ubuntu-cn
[14:58] <Gnea> !cn | liujun
[14:59] <ahaz> Gnea: no, there is no bar running bottom of the screen. That is pretty fun that I have it running though.
[14:59] <mickey> the model is vigor N61 802.11n wireless usb adaptor
[14:59] <Gnea> ahaz: okay, let's try something else then... when you move your mouse cursor to the top and bottom of the screen all the way, does it scroll more of the whole desktop?
[15:00] <mickey> will i go onto ubuntu now to get the stuff from the lsusb thing
[15:01] <IdleOne> mickey: hold off
[15:01] <IdleOne> mickey: I assume Katsumi32 is googling a little bit now
[15:01] <mickey> ok thank you
[15:01] <IdleOne> Katsumi32: mickey> the model is vigor N61 802.11n wireless usb adaptor
[15:01] <ahaz> Gnea: my mouse cursor is completely displayed when at both the bottom and the top of the screen.
[15:02] <Gnea> ahaz: okay, go back to the gnome-terminal and type this:  killall -9 gnome-panel
[15:02] <Katsumi32> mickey, i think your card has rt2870 and its very useless chip at the moment to new for ubuntu there is driver rt2870sta u have to get it install it and even than it will have prblem with wpa key etc my advice change card
[15:03] <Katsumi32> mickey, i had the same card took me long time to set it up install driver and even than it didnt work properly
[15:03] <mickey> ok thank you for your advice
[15:03] <Katsumi32> mickey, wait sec
[15:03] <bahr> anybody who can help me adjusting the brightness of my Sony Vaio computer? I managed to get it working by installing latest nvidia drivers from their site, but the screen is using full brightness, and the gnome applet does not work either.
[15:03] <mickey> ok
[15:03] <Chr|s> why does it seem more difficult to dual boot now with 10.04?
[15:04] <ahaz> Gnea: That command restored the bars.
[15:04] <Chr|s> is it more confusing when I have more than 1 drive?
[15:05] <Gnea> ahaz: awesome
[15:05] <Katsumi32> mickey, check up argos or pcworld any none N card will work with ubuntu they cost about from 10£ some N cards work some not if you want soemthing with better range try hawkingHWU8DD i have that one it has zd1211 chip and work out of the box with ubuntu 10.04 also u can attach external antenna
[15:06] <Le_woof> is ther a reason why Ubun desktop edition 64 bits is not recemmended for daily desktop usage?
[15:06] <bazhang> Le_woof, poorly worded, its fine
[15:06] <Katsumi32> Le_woof, the same reason as windows less support less drivers etc
[15:07] <bazhang> Katsumi32, thats not correct
[15:07] <ahaz> Gnea: the bottom bar isn't displaying what windows I have open. That isn't all that important, but just a note.
[15:07] <Le_woof> ah gotcha, im just thinking i have 8 gigs of ram on my box so 32bits wouldnt read it all now would it (in 7 64 atm)
[15:08] <Katsumi32> bazhang, could you tell me where could i download catalyst for card ati hd4850 ubuntu 64 ?
[15:08] <bazhang> Katsumi32, I dont have ati so no
[15:08] <Gnea> ahaz: try logging out, then login again to see if it changes anything
[15:09] <ahaz> Gnea: Is there a way to correct this so that it the top bar loads correctly on startup.
[15:09] <IdleOne> Katsumi32: ati issue has nothing to do with 64bit. That is ati.
[15:09] <ahaz> Gnea: I will do that first. thank you.
[15:09] <Gnea> ahaz: yes, but we need to see how the system is reacting now
[15:09] <Katsumi32> bazhang, thats only example im saying 64 is less supported than ubuntu 32 am i wrong ? thats what i learned
[15:09] <Le_woof> is ther a ram cap in linux for 32 bits like windows, (4 gigs)
[15:09] <IdleOne> Le_woof: 3.2gigs
[15:09] <IdleOne> !pae | Le_woof
[15:10] <Katsumi32> Le_woof, install 32 kernel pae and it will recognise no matter how much ram u have got
[15:10] <Le_woof> thanks, very helpfull fellaws
[15:11] <CkhiKuzad> Is there a way to allow Wine to use GTK icons, and possibly my mouse cursor?
[15:12] <CkhiKuzad> I'm going to ask again because i think i might have been in a netsplit:
[15:13] <CkhiKuzad> Is there a way to allow Wine to use GTK icons, and possibly my mouse cursor?
[15:13] <IdleOne> CkhiKuzad: ask #winehq
[15:13] <CkhiKuzad> thanks IdleOne.
[15:14] <anon33_> i'm having trouble installing dockbarx - i've added the ppa to my system but it says it can't find the package. i'm on 10.10
[15:14] <Katsumi32> anon33_, ask on #ubuntu+1
[15:14] <anon33_> Katsumi32: alright.
[15:14] <anon33_> i'm having trouble installing dockbarx - i've added the ppa to my system but it says it can't find the package. i'm on 10.10
[15:14] <anon33_> whoops - sorry!
[15:15] <ahaz> Gnea: I have returned. The top bar works fine. The bottom bar still doesn't display open or workspaces. I of course still can alt+tab to change windows.
[15:15] <NullProphecy> Gnea: FYI I got it all working using the newest drivers from the eGalax website. Although the config utility is pretty flakey!
[15:15] <ahaz> Gnea open windows*
[15:15] <Gnea> ahaz: alright, you ought to be able to right-click in a clear space on the top bar and add a new bar or panel to the bottom
[15:16] <Gnea> NullProphecy: awesome!
[15:16] <eeeman> guys i need help with me ubuntu netbook
[15:16] <Gnea> eeeman: please state the problem
[15:16] <Katsumi32> eeeman, ask question
[15:17] <eeeman> i installed 10.4 netbook remix and others say it fits on there hdd perfectly but when i try it after a day it complains the hdd is almost empty is there a way to either slim it down or install it on a external hdd and use it that way
[15:17] <swampt> How do I list what interrupts are assigned to a list of devices?
[15:18] <ShredMaster> hey, I want to use UBUNTU for coding and Windows for Flash, photoshop, sound editing which are not in UBUNTU. how do I do it?
[15:18] <ahaz> Gnea: thanks. I am going to restart the machine and see if it will behave.
[15:18] <Le_woof> adobe software should run in wine
[15:18] <Katsumi32> eeeman, sure you can insatll it on external hdd or usb etc   the min size for 10.04 i would say 10gb
[15:18] <IdleOne> !dualboot | ShredMaster
[15:19] <turtle_> has anyone else had any wireless network issues with the beta?
[15:19] <bazhang> turtle_, #ubuntu+1 for that
[15:19] <IdleOne> turtle_: #ubuntu+1 for 10.10
[15:19] <eeeman> how do i do this every time ive tried it either screws up the netbooks default os or dosent wanna boot
[15:20] <Katsumi32> eeeman, install grub2 on the hdd where is your windows cuz if u want to have windows on internal hdd and ubuntu on external hdd if u unplug external hdd u wont be able boot up windows
[15:20] <rockhopper>  /close
[15:20] <EvilPhoenix> how do i change the default java compiler / runtime being used
[15:20] <eross> i notice the latest kernels are 2.6.34.7..  i'm at 2.6.32.24.  does that mean ubuntu lags behind in any security hole fixes and will go thru a slow down before the 'speed up' fix was found in 2.6.35?
[15:21] <eeeman> katsum can i pm you to explain more about my setup
[15:21] <Katsumi32> so either keep external hdd conected none stop or install grub on the same hdd where windows is
[15:21] <Katsumi32> eeeman, the latest kernel is 2.6.35 ubuntu 10.04 ppa
[15:22] <goliat> hey people. Im having issues with my wireless on my dell inspiron laptop. my killswitch on the keyboard is not responding. Any suggestions on whats wrong?
[15:22] <eross> odd..
[15:22] <bazhang> !ppa | Katsumi32 eross
[15:22] <Katsumi32> bazhang, yeah youre right :)
[15:22] <bazhang> Katsumi32, so dont recommend it as the latest, as its not the supported latest
[15:22] <eross> just wondering why it's slow to update
[15:23] <Katsumi32> bazhang, i didnt recomend it
[15:23] <Katsumi32> did i?
[15:23] <coolroot--> eross: maybe it's from ur connection?
[15:23] <bazhang> Katsumi32, you said it was the latest. its not
[15:25] <jiga> Hello MaMoUs and welcome to #ubuntu
[15:25] <Katsumi32> the latest from synaptic is 2.6.32 and it will always be the latest for 10.04 forever if someone want newer kernel than he need to use ppa maverick has 2.6.35 and 2.6.35 is stable the thing is that canonical wont support it cuz thats how it work new ubuntu release new kernel
[15:25] <jiga> Hello IdleOne and welcome to #ubuntu
[15:25] <MaMoUs> I install Creative Sound blaster 2day, i can hear from movie player but i cant hear from Firefox
[15:29] <prower> hello :> does anyone know how i could determine what package provides libgtkembedmoz.so?
[15:29] <sedulous> prower: apt-file is your friend
[15:29] <dblue> .
[15:30] <IdleOne> !find  libgtkembedmoz
[15:31] <prower> sedulous: Thanks I'll have to take a look at the documentation for it
[15:31] <MaMoUs> Can some one help me?, I installed Creative sound blaster, All work oky, But Firefox sound not working, Ubuntu 10.04 please help me :(
[15:34] <nakhlawi> MaMoUs: did you try closing the movie player then playing the firefox sound?
[15:35] <MaMoUs> nakhlawi: yes i did, No luck (i think that Firefox still useing other sound card old one, but is there a way to change it ?)
[15:36] <MaMoUs> nakhlawi: yeb i was right Firefox is still using the old build in Sound card, how to make it using the new one ?
[15:37] <nakhlawi> MaMoUs: I am not sure, maybe you should ask the firefox developers.
[15:37] <nakhlawi> over at irc.mozilla.org
[15:37] <zaidaus> anyone know a better irc client than xchat on ubuntu
[15:37] <Katsumi32> MaMoUs, i think there is some sort of bug it was like that always everytime u play youtube u hear sound and if u start play something at the same moment from your desktop it wont work sometime u will have to kill firefox.bin before youre able to use mplayer and hear anythig check up system monitor if there is anything to kill like mplayer or vlc
[15:38] <Lantizia> Hey does anyone know if there is a ~130mb-style netinst ISO for 10.04.1 ?
[15:38] <bribroder> MaMoUs, try going into your sound preferences and setting everything to ALSA
[15:38] <Qwert> zaidaus: What problem are you facing with xchat-gnome?
[15:38] <erUSUL> !minimal | Lantizia
[15:38] <Lantizia> I see a ~15mb one for 10.04 already
[15:38] <MaMoUs> bribroder: i did no luck
[15:38] <Lantizia> erUSUL, as I just said I've already seen that one
[15:39] <MaMoUs> Katsumi32: well my problem is FireFox is still useing old sound card not new one
[15:39] <erUSUL> Lantizia: afaik; there is nothing like yu describe. you have livecd alternate and minimal.
[15:39] <Lantizia> erUSUL, ok just used to the debian netinst discs thats all... they come with the entire set standard packages
[15:40] <bribroder> MaMoUs, try using the terminal to run: sudo killall pulseaudio && sudo alsa force-reload
[15:40] <Lantizia> erUSUL, with the alternate ISO can I deselect all tasksel package sets? or do I need the server ISO for that?
[15:40] <skjoedt> I get an error in apt-get when trying to install a package: Its about a wrong kernel version and can be seen here: http://pastebin.com/y90HiqQ5 - Help is appreciated
[15:41] <MaMoUs> bribroder: i did try that no luck, i put a speaker in the old output , It give me other the sound of Firefox, And the other speaker is connected to the new sound card is working as well
[15:41] <erUSUL> Lantizia: dunno; been a long time since i used alternate iso to do a install
[15:41] <MagicJ> what is the file name that contains desktop background
[15:41] <bribroder> MaMoUs, frequently you can disable onboard sound chipsets from the BIOS
[15:41] <juk> how to set particular font for each language in system?
[15:42] <bribroder> try rebooting and look through the BIOS for a way to disable the chip
[15:42] <MaMoUs> bribroder: but if i disable it, the firefox will not give me sound any more, i try that 2
[15:42] <bribroder> sounds like you need to talk to mozilla then... or install chrome ;)
[15:43] <cike> ALC889A sound card,i can't find the driver
[15:44] <Katsumi32> cike problem with sound>? no sound at all ?
[15:45] <nakhlawi> MaMoUs: just ask the question in irc.mozilla.org
[15:45] <cike> Katsumi32:ma785gt-ud3h
[15:45] <nakhlawi> MaMoUs: they might help
[15:45] <MaMoUs> nakhlawi: oky i will thx very much
[15:45] <nakhlawi> MaMoUs: good luck
[15:46] <coolroot--> does anyone knows how to bypass isp security? i mean they're blocking some sites here....is there any ways to bypass their security regarding to this?
[15:46] <MaMoUs> nakhlawi: thx man, i hope 2
[15:46] <cike> Katsumi32:Motherboard ma785gt-ud3h
[15:46] <cike> Katsumi32:sound card ALC889L
[15:46] <Katsumi32> cike, i didnt ask about your motherboard i asked if you have any sound or no sound at all?
[15:46] <juk> where to change system set language?
[15:47] <cike> Katsumi32:NO
[15:47] <erUSUL> juk: System>Admin..>language support
[15:47] <Lantizia> does anyone know if either the alternate or server ISOs allow you to deselect all/some of the tasksel package sets?
[15:47] <Lantizia> I just want the standard packages basically
[15:47] <Resnik> anyone so kind that could help me with samba conf on my ubuntu?
[15:48] <esfahankids> hi frends
[15:48] <juk> erUSUL:i mean, 'system set' font
[15:48] <Katsumi32> cike type in terminal alsamixer and unmute everything
[15:48] <esfahankids> i installed apache
[15:48] <esfahankids> but now i wabt to run script on apache
[15:48] <esfahankids> where i copy my files?
[15:48] <venky10> Hi. Where can I find the linux kernel .config file for lucid lynx on my system?
[15:48] <erUSUL> juk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ?
[15:48] <juk> erUSUL: and how it works that all languages using same font?
[15:48] <Krishnandu> esfahankids, /var/www
[15:48] <esfahankids> thx
[15:48] <erUSUL> venky10: /boot/config
[15:49] <venky10> erUSUS: Thanks!
[15:50] <cike> Katsumi32:no, i think driver
[15:50] <Katsumi32> cike so if no driver follow this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1417864&highlight=acl+1200
[15:52] <Praveen> can someone tell me the permissions for the /usr/bin folder
[15:52] <Katsumi32> anyone know how to move grub from one hdd to other ? is it possiblet to install ubuntu on external hdd and grub on internal ?
[15:52] <Praveen> i accidentally changed it to 755
[15:52] <cike> Katsumi32:thank you
[15:52] <Praveen> and i want to change it back to the original permission settings
[15:52] <Katsumi32> cike you welcome
[15:53] <chibihogoshino> is something broken in iwlagn ?
[15:54] <lubun2> Katsumi32, grub-install
[15:54] <juk> erUSUL: how make it use custom font for language globally
[15:55] <lubun2> Katsumi32, grub-install /dev/dev-name-here
[15:55] <Katsumi32> tnx lubun2
[15:56] <jorge__> lalala (8)
[15:56] <MagicJ> hello, what file contains the image used as the desktop wallpaper/background, thanks in advance
[15:56] <lubun2> Katsumi32, np.. shud be /dev/sda or sdb  not sda1 nor sdb1
[15:56] <Etherael> Hi all, I've just done a full clone of my old computer's filesystem on a completely new computer, the restore went fine, I'm just wanting to know what I need to change with regards to grub to tell the mbr that there's now a linux partition that it needs to boot.
[15:57] <skjoedt> I get a kernel error when using apt-get install. It appeared after I installed 2.6.33-020633-generic kernel. The terminal output: http://pastebin.com/nbys7nDf And the make.log: http://pastebin.com/bB8stkh3 Help is appreciated.
[15:58] <lubun2> Etherael, you need to edit /etc/fstab for the new UUIDs, might need to regenerate initrd's, etc
[15:58] <skjoedt> It comes up with /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/8.723.1/build/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:31:28: error: linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory etc.
[15:58] <Etherael> lubun2: How do I know what the new uuids are, and how do i redo initrd's?
[15:58] <Katsumi32> skjoedt, install it using synaptic install headers and image
[15:59] <zaidaus> Qwert, i'm not having problems with xchat. just wanted to see if anyone thought they knew a better program.
[15:59] <zaidaus> Qwert, so far it seems good, although i've only started using irc frequently just recently.
[15:59] <lubun2> Etherael, sorry but you would have been better of with a new install
[15:59] <lubun2> *off
[15:59] <bribroder> Etherael, I think you just need to install grub to the mbr. sudo grub-install /dev/sda in most cases, but choose the /dev which matches your boot drive
[16:00] <Etherael> i'd rather not go through the whole rigmarole of that.
[16:00] <xbonesx> So i have finally downloaded 10.4 and would like some installation advice?
[16:00] <bribroder> I second lubun2, fresh install is less trouble than troubleshooting a clone
[16:00] <Etherael> bribroder: I have 2 drives, windows drive /dev/sda which is the boot drive, but linux drive is /dev/sdb2 (sdb1 is swap) does that matter?
[16:00] <MaMoUs> oky now it is fixed every thing is Using one sound card, But now i cant run Firefox sound and movie player at same time
[16:00] <xbonesx> running in the live cd right now
[16:00] <skjoedt> Katsumi32: In synaptics it says I have both header and image for the current kernel
[16:00] <Qwert> zaidaus: I cannot say about a better program. I guess this may help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients
[16:01] <bribroder> Etherael, if you install grub to sda it will take over the windows bootloader and should offer you both OSes
[16:01] <nakhlawi> MaMoUs: you mean you can run either but not both?
[16:01] <skjoedt> Katsumi32: "linux-image-2.6.33-020633-generic" and "linux-headers-2.6.33-020633" is marked as installed
[16:01] <Etherael> bribroder: Yep that's fine, thanks.
[16:01] <Etherael> and blkid is to get the disk uuid if anyone was curious
[16:01] <MaMoUs> nakhlawi: yes i have to choose only 1 now
[16:01] <bribroder> but windows will be pissed if you ever try to get rid of grub
[16:01] <Qwert> !unignore
[16:02] <Katsumi32> skjoedt, type uname -a
[16:02] <bazhang> Qwert, /msg ubottu
[16:02] <nakhlawi> MaMoUs: that is normal. sound card is being blocked by one of them until it finishes.
[16:02] <BlaDe^> is there a way to check which ip's are available on my server?
[16:02] <BlaDe^> im not sure if I have more than one ip or not
[16:02] <skjoedt> Katsumi32: 2.6.33-020633-generic
[16:02] <MaMoUs> BlaDe^: it was not like that before i change my sound card
[16:02] <Qwert> IdleOne, a moment again?
[16:03] <bribroder> BlaDe^, type sudo ifconfig to see your configured network connections
[16:03] <ericubuntu> I'm running 10.04 by CD. I've got 10.04 installed but just did kernal updates and after rebooting it gets stuck after the fifth red dot on the loading screen
[16:03] <IdleOne> Qwert: sure
[16:03] <BlaDe^> bribroder: is it possible I could have additional ip's and they would't be configured?
[16:03] <BlaDe^> the server is in a co-loc i dunno if I have multiple ip's or not - if not I need to buy some
[16:03] <Katsumi32> skjoedt,  so its installed right ? whats the problem ?
[16:03] <skjoedt> Katsumi32: I got an error earlier that /usr/src/include/linux/version.h was not found, so I copied the version.h from "/usr/include/linux/" there. Now I got these other errors
[16:03] <bribroder> BlaDe^, it's possible that you have additional network devices that aren't configured and so can't get an IP
[16:04] <BlaDe^> ah there's 5 ips there
[16:04] <xbonesx> I have ubuntu 9.04 and windows 7 installed on seperate partitions. I was wondering if I should keep my current ubuntu and make another partition from free space on windows for 10.4? Any suggestions?
[16:04] <bribroder> BlaDe^, count the number of ethernet cables and wifi cards attached to your computers... that's the total number of IPs you could have, barring logical devices or some other software jazz
[16:04] <deathbyliqour> hi guys i want to ask sth
[16:05] <deathbyliqour> wats the best application to create a thumbdrive bootable linux
[16:05] <juk> xbonesx: go for it
[16:05] <bazhang> deathbyliqour, unetbootin
[16:05] <BlaDe^> bribroder:  I have no idea -- it's in co-loc in another country -- it's not my server
[16:05] <bribroder> deathbyliqour, I second bazhang
[16:05] <deathbyliqour> is it possible for me to install linux on a thumbdrive and be able to configure it before installing it on the netbook
[16:05] <BlaDe^> but there's xx.xx.xx.26 -> xx.xx.xx.30 and for eth0:1> eth0:5
[16:06] <bazhang> deathbyliqour, you'd need to remaster the iso
[16:06] <xbonesx> can i have three partitions, two ubuntu's and a windows?
[16:06] <bribroder> that's them, then
[16:06] <Cookiemad> Xbonesx: if you want ubuntu to have more space, enlarge its partition
[16:06] <xbonesx> juk: can i have three partitions, two ubuntu's and a windows?
[16:06] <Marine_> Marine is gaming.  !gameinfo for more info.
[16:06] <bazhang> xbonesx, as 9.04 is end of life very soon no point
[16:06] <deathbyliqour> bazhang, remaster the iso?
[16:06] <bazhang> !gameinfo
[16:06] <juk> xbonesx: yes, even more
[16:07] <Trian3> I hear Linux is king when it comes to automating pretty much anything, but is there a tool that allows you to create automation scripts graphically similar to WinAutomation in windows?
[16:07] <bazhang> Marine_, wrong channel for that
[16:07] <bazhang> !remaster | deathbyliqour
[16:07] <skjoedt> Katsumi32: Here is the terminal output: http://pastebin.com/nbys7nDf  And here is the log file: http://pastebin.com/y90HiqQ5
[16:07] <xbonesx> ya figured that much, going to backup files and delete info on partition then fresh install ubuntu 10.4 :D
[16:07] <bribroder> Trian3, you will need to learn new ways of doing things than you did on windows
[16:07] <nakhlawi> Trian3: learn perl
[16:07] <Trian3> Bribroder:  Oh, I'm aware of that.  Best place to start?
[16:08] <juk> Trian3:automagick wont lead you to light
[16:08] <Trian3> Juk:  Huh??
[16:08] <deathbyliqour> anybody uses easypeasey?
[16:08] <skjoedt> Anyone else able to help?
[16:08] <xbonesx> Quick question tho, i just came from 9.04 where the minimize and close buttons on the windows were on the right side and now there on the left side. Can i change this, not used to the MAC style window LOL
[16:08] <deathbyliqour> i want to install ubuntu on my netbook but considering sth other than UNR
[16:08] <zoopp> hello..could someone recommend me an instrument emulator that runs on ubuntu?
[16:08] <bazhang> deathbyliqour, as thats not supported here no telling
[16:08] <bribroder> Trian3, depends on how seriously you're automating. A lot of typical OS maintenance, like backups, transcoding jobs, etc, can be scripted in bash and then scheduled to execute at X time
[16:08] <Trian3> Nakhlawi:  Perl, huh?  Glad I held onto those books from years ago.  Is it a steep learning curve if you're not a programmer?
[16:09] <zoopp> what i ment was 'instrument simulator' meh :)
[16:09] <juk> xbonesx: right click, change desktop background, themes
[16:09] <Trian3> I never got very far when I was trying to learn it before, but now there's a real business need.
[16:09] <nakhlawi> Trian3: I recommend perl for automating administration tasks on Linux.
[16:09] <cybrocop> Hello, I have an EcryptFS issue....   I changed my password using the passwd command, but it seems that it didn't update the wrapped-passphrase file
[16:10] <cybrocop> I also did something else afterwards which I hope didn't kill my data.
[16:10] <deathbyliqour> k thanx a lot bazhang
[16:10] <cybrocop> Can someone help me get out of this mess?
[16:10] <deathbyliqour> will check out unetboot
[16:10] <nakhlawi> Trian3: and perl documentation is comprehensive and easy to follow
[16:10] <bribroder> deathbyliqour, that's unetbootin
[16:10] <skjoedt> Is there a safe way to recompile my kernel without loosing data? I installed 2.6.33 but has some trouble using apt-get. I get an error: "kernel includes at /lib/modules/2.6.33-020633-generic/build/include do not match current kernel." and can't seem to fix this.
[16:11] <loln-at-freenode> !ops NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! loln-at-freenode Out_Cold odinsbane Scarface tul jiga cybrocop zoopp Cassy_ jagan185 rallias schlaftier SirDidi joy Trian3 ThomasB2k WinstonSmith deathbyliqour tempeldirne MaximLevitsky mue r007 ericubuntu Cookiemad lukaszg erle- dtownhero Calinou darkmag Lorenc-Ubuntu-Li pinoyskull wildc4rd shredder12 Adremelech djed jorge__ jean-claude ZykoticK9 Etherael britta pipe
[16:11] <odinsbane> Is there a way to upgrade packages that are being held back from the apt cmd line?
[16:11] <Calinou> fail of freenode o_o
[16:11] <bazhang> odinsbane, dist-upgrade
[16:11] <Calinou> can't you ban them permanently? :(
[16:11] <ericubuntu> my ubuntu 10.04 install is getting stuck at the loading screen after kernal updates
[16:11] <bribroder> odinsbane, -dist-upgrade
[16:11] <Trian3> Nakhlawi:  Can you automate 3rd party programs via Perl?  Or apps through Wine?  Create reports in a variety of different formats (.txt/.csv)?  Create tables?  Pass variables to different programs?
[16:11] <odinsbane> bribroder: I don't think thats what I want.
[16:12] <MaximLevitsky> Calinou: two words, dynamic ips...
[16:12] <bazhang> odinsbane, thats the method
[16:12] <odinsbane> Isn't that for upgrading distributions?
[16:12] <bribroder> bazhang and I think it is
[16:12] <bazhang> odinsbane, no
[16:12] <cybrocop> can someone direct me to any help resource on this issue?
[16:12] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | odinsbane
[16:12] <Horfe> Yo
[16:12] <Horfe> :p
[16:12] <Out_Cold> so i somehow think i may have unloaded or switched wifi drivers and now i am stuck to the router with a 6 ft cord...
[16:13] <nakhlawi> Trian3: perl is made for text processing, so yes. As to your first part, I am not sure.
[16:13] <bribroder> Out_Cold, I would try out wicd instead of network-manager
[16:13] <nakhlawi> You might ask the folks in #perl. They'll give you a better idea.
[16:13] <Out_Cold> bribroder, i was trying to get it going with air-utils and cli..
[16:14] <ericubuntu> ubuntu stuck on loading screen after updates. someone please help
[16:14] <Trian3> Was just looking up the channel name.  Thanks.
[16:14] <r007> ericubuntu can you not select the previous kernel from grub?
[16:14] <deepan> ya me too got struck !
[16:14] <odinsbane> Thanks, the cmd line -help sounds like a distribution upgrade, while the man pages seem to say other wise.
[16:14] <ericubuntu> r007: i was reading about grub but im not sure how to access it
[16:14] <Marine_> I'm back from the game!
[16:14] <bazhang> ericubuntu, shift at boot
[16:14] <bribroder> Out_Cold, what changes were you making to your config?
[16:14] <r007> ericubuntu press esc during boot
[16:14] <bazhang> Marine_, stop that
[16:15] <bribroder> ericm|ubuntu, choose recovery mode from grub
[16:15] <ericubuntu> r007, bazhang: as soon as it starts booting? like where i would enter bios? or loading screen
[16:15] <bazhang> ericubuntu, after post hold shift
[16:15] <r007> ericubuntu just after post
[16:15] <r007> ericubuntu just after pos
[16:16] <ericubuntu> r007, bazhang: thank you
[16:16] <prower> hmm...apt-file seemed to freeze up on creating the cache for me, weird :/ is there any other way to determine what file a package is located in (with a specific path)?
[16:16] <mitology> hello
[16:16] <Out_Cold> bribroder, i was changing /etc/.../interfaces but after the fail, i reverted to just auto wlan0 & auto wlan0 inet dhcp
[16:16] <Lantizia> hey I'm reinstalling ubuntu - all my sata cd drives and hard disks in the bios show as IDE (when they're not - so must be backwards compatibility) and I have the option of turning on AHCI?  should I bother and if so why?
[16:16] <ShredMaster> can i use Virtualbox instead of the daunting process of DUALBOOT????????
[16:16] <mitology> hello
[16:17] <bazhang> ShredMaster, yes
[16:17] <jrib> ShredMaster: sure, why not
[16:17] <IdleOne> shredder12: sure
[16:17] <jrib> !away > nakhlawi_away
[16:17] <deepan> i'm having dual boot(windows,ubuntu)..........plz tell me how to uninstall ubuntu ?
[16:17] <Out_Cold> ShredMaster, vbox is a great tool
[16:17] <mitology> my lingue it italy
[16:17] <jrib> !it | mitology
[16:17] <IdleOne> !it | mitology
[16:18] <r007> deepan format the partition resize in winshit and then configure the windows boot loader
[16:18] <Out_Cold> ShredMaster, the only problems i came across are network settings and guest additions
[16:18] <bazhang> mitology, #ubuntu-it for italian
[16:18] <pepper> hey guys :) i'm having some trouble booting ubuntu (10.04) after a system crash. grub works fine, but when i want to boot my linux partition, i recieve the following error: http://dobbod2010.blogspot.com/2010/01/ubuntu-no-init-found-try-passing.html . right now i'm trying the workaround mentioned in this blog, but when i start e2fsck or fsck from a recovery disc, i'm told that: fsck.ext4: Device or resource is busy while trying to o
[16:18] <annon> r007: winshit, haha
[16:18] <Katsumi32> deepan, is ubuntu on the saem partition? if so boot windows and delete the partition ubuntu is installed than extend windows partition and dont reboot just find tutorial how to repair windows partition
[16:18] <IdleOne> annon: keep the l;angauge clean please
[16:18] <IdleOne> -;
[16:18] <annon> IdleOne: …
[16:18] <ShredMaster> Out_cold: I just want to use windows software not related to internet. Is that ok ?
[16:18] <IdleOne> annon: use your words, I don't speak dot
[16:18] <annon> IdleOne: I was quoting someone, read up.
[16:18] <deepan> k thx
[16:19] <IdleOne> annon: bad language is bad wether you are quoting someone or not
[16:19] <bribroder> Lantizia, you should look in the BIOS for the IDE/AHCI toggle; your hard drive read/writes will be faster
[16:19] <annon> IdleOne: what's bad about 'shit'?
[16:19] <Out_Cold> ShredMaster, of course... i am currently running a ubuntu host with virtual box, a win 7 guest and several other guests
[16:19] <bazhang> annon, stop it
[16:19] <r007> deepan winshit is not a swear word
[16:20] <annon> I'm serious. it's not like it's racist or anything like that.
[16:20] <bazhang> r007, you too
[16:20] <Out_Cold> ShredMaster, i use the win7 seamlessly and i pretend that at work i'm as silly as all the other windows users
[16:20] <IdleOne> !guidelines > annon
[16:20] <r007> it would be if it was hyphanated
[16:20] <ShredMaster> Out_Cold: it say's ' Package Virtualbox has no Candidates' in terminal.
[16:20] <deepan> mmmm.............i like both win and ubuntu
[16:20] <annon> I love how I get the blame and not r007.
[16:20] <mitology> ok tanke
[16:20] <l0de> Hi, is there any interest for a hebrew-specific ubuntu port I'm working on? I call it Ubuntjew
[16:20] <r007> anon sorry
[16:20] <Out_Cold> VirtualBox
[16:20] <bazhang> l0de, no
[16:21] <IdleOne> !guidelines > r007
[16:21] <deepan> in terms of security i go with ubuntu
[16:21] <l0de> Why not bazhag
[16:21] <jrib> l0de: http://www.jewbuntu.com/
[16:21] <bazhang> l0de, lets move on
[16:21] <Out_Cold> ShredMaster, always gotta watch your capitalization
[16:21] <bhah> i'm jewish, i'd love that port
[16:21] <r007> !Idleone dictionary
[16:21] <black-eagle> hello
[16:21] <l0de> yeah bha
[16:21] <l0de> The existing jewbuntu is a lousy hackjob
[16:21] <Qwert> Hello bazhang
[16:21] <ShredMaster> out_cold: ok
[16:21] <l0de> It doesn't even have modules for denying access on the sabbath etc
[16:21] <black-eagle> what are you talking about?
[16:21] <aguitel> gmar jativa tova for all
[16:22] <bazhang> l0de, lets get back on topic
[16:22] <bhah> there's a topic in here?
[16:22] <Out_Cold> }"
[16:22] <Gnea> bhah: there is.
[16:22] <black-eagle> what's the topic
[16:22] <Out_Cold> !topic
[16:22] <bhah> oh yeah, beefing up bazhang's and IdleOne's egos, i forgot
[16:22] <bhah> that's the topic
[16:22] <ShredMaster> out_cold: not solved. same error
[16:22] <Gnea> the topic is Ubuntu.
[16:23] <jrib> Let's get back to ubuntu *support* everyone...
[16:23] <bribroder> jewbuntu sounds tangentially related at least
[16:23] <l0de> bazhang don't try to censor me please
[16:23] <Out_Cold> ShredMaster, possibly you do not have the repos for it... enable multi and universe
[16:23] <l0de> I asked for interest, and people messaged me. My work here is done
[16:23] <Gnea> l0de: if you stay on topic, no one will care.
[16:23] <ShredMaster> out_cold: i don't get it. I think i will use synaptic
[16:24] <Katsumi32> l0de, no it isnt
[16:24] <l0de> Gnea you're off topic by continuing to bother me about the issue
[16:24] <perlsyntax> How long is 9.04 update good for
[16:24] <bazhang> perlsyntax, until 10/23
[16:24] <perlsyntax> cool thank
[16:24] <perlsyntax> :)
[16:24] <Out_Cold> ShredMaster, in synaptic, it still may not be available.. the solution, is to open 'repositories' from one of the menus and enable universe and multiverse
[16:24] <Gnea> l0de: nice try.
[16:24] <bribroder> cease fire boys, remember that you're arguing on the internet
[16:24] <pepper> how do I force checking the file system via fsck, when there is no partition mounted and I am told that "Device or resource is busy while trying to open /dev/sda5"?
[16:24] <l0de> Welcome to my ignore list gnea, please stop trolling
[16:24] <Out_Cold> ShredMaster, and reload after
[16:25] <haywardgb> anyone recommend a cheap but decent enough "usb" wireless dongle to use with Aircrack on Ubuntu for vulnerability testing? cheers.. Btw, I'm based in London..
[16:25] <ShredMaster> out_cold: haha, I don't know about 'repos', I will google it first. then, ok..thanks
[16:26] <bribroder> pepper, fsck -f Force
[16:26] <Gnea> l0de: lol! btw, http://www.jewbuntu.com/
[16:26] <level09> i have a shared dir in my ubuntu machine and my xp machine, what is the easiest way to find out the ip of my xp machine that connects to the ubuntu one
[16:27] <bribroder> level09, log into the windows machine
[16:27] <level09> yes
[16:27] <level09> i'm on it
[16:27] <Out_Cold> ShredMaster, a repo is a list of packages that you can install.. by default ubuntu only gives you a small amount of packages to choose from.. mostly 'safe' and 'free' but you can enable proprietary and non-free lists that are sorted as universe and multiverse
[16:27] <level09> ipconfig?
[16:27] <pepper> bribroder: thank you. but I am still getting "Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda5"
[16:27] <Gnea> if something is a 'lousy hackjob', then stop complaining and go about fixing it the right way.
[16:27] <bribroder> level09, lol yes
[16:27] <annon> IdleOne: since this is obviously a hot topic in this channel, can I PM you regarding a question about the rules?
[16:27] <bribroder> pepper, reboot and retry?
[16:27] <IdleOne> annon: join #ubuntu-ops please
[16:27] <level09> bribroder: so the ip is the ethernet adapter of the local area connection
[16:27] <level09> okay thanks
[16:28] <level09> let me try that
[16:28] <ShredMaster> out_cold: thanks, u explained in a sentence. great
[16:28] <Katsumi32> annon, stop it please
[16:28] <Gnea> Katsumi32: may I PM you?
[16:28] <Katsumi32> sure
[16:28] <ShredMaster> out_cold: is that 'repos' syntax played in terminal window??
[16:29] <Hut> lol religious distros are fun xD
[16:29] <Out_Cold> ShredMaster, there is both gui and cli
[16:29] <Out_Cold> ShredMaster, the cli is /etc/apt/sources.list i think
[16:29] <Hut> ShredMaster: /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:29] <pepper> bribroder: I'm in a live mode (system rescue cd) - ubuntu does not boot any longer (grub shows up!) and i rebootet several times, cold and warm restart.
[16:29] <ShredMaster> out_cold: i want to try gui first..
[16:29] <Hut> there should be a list of servers your linux will check if you want to download something
[16:30] <bribroder> pepper, the drive isn't mounted, correct?
[16:30] <newkno> Hi.  I've managed to make my system unbootable - trying to use http://ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - but Grub-rescue mode on my machine does not include all the commands described in that article (e.g. "linux," "cat," or "help").
[16:30] <pepper> bribroder: that's right
[16:30] <skjoedt> Help! apt-get install shows an error no matter what I install. It seems to be related to fglrx or kernel. "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.33-020633-generic (x86_64)" See http://pastebin.com/nbys7nDf
[16:30] <Out_Cold> ShredMaster, it's in the menu selection 'software sources' or from inside synaptic as 'repositories'
[16:30] <ShredMaster> out_cold: ok
[16:30] <Out_Cold> Hut, there is..
[16:30] <Chr|s> Having a weird error, can't install my proprietary drivers. I have before recently on this PC. "SystemError:installArchives() failed"
[16:31] <Katsumi32> Chr|s, drivers for what ?
[16:31] <Katsumi32> graphic card Chr|s ?
[16:31] <Hut> Out_Cold: good been some time since i used ubuntu and i didnt know if the location was correct
[16:31] <Chr|s> Katsumi32, ATI graphics card. Worked flawlessly before
[16:31] <Chr|s> recently
[16:31] <deepan> how to download compiz as a package,to install it in offline?
[16:31] <pepper> bribroder: file -sL /dev/sda5 tells me: ext4 filesystem data (needs journal recovery) (errors) (extents) (large files) (huge files)
[16:32] <bribroder> pepper, you could try setting fsck for the next boot: sudo touch /forcefsck
[16:32] <Katsumi32> Chr|s, you have got ati card? what one ?
[16:32] <Chr|s> Katsumi32, it shouldn't matter which one I got, its a fairly newer one
[16:32] <Out_Cold> oh sorry Hut i misread and thought you were saying "there should be" as in there isn't lol
[16:33] <pepper> bribroder: does that affect my installed system, because atm I'm in a console of some rescue cd?
[16:33] <Hut> xD
[16:33] <Katsumi32> Chr|s, it very matter what u have u can trust me
[16:33] <Chr|s> Katsumi32, Im good thanks :)
[16:33] <juk> deepan:try apt-get | grep 'Download only'
[16:33] <Katsumi32> the older one only work with OS drivers and never one are supported by AMD so better is to get catalyst cuz more features better 3d support etc
[16:34] <Chr|s> Katsumi32, what part of it worked within the last month don't you understand? Im pretty sure nothing has changed since then. Something is wrong when it tries to pull the software from the server, because its not working
[16:35] <bribroder> pepper, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
[16:35] <Katsumi32> Chr|s, my dear cant you tell me what ati card do you have ? please
[16:35] <bribroder> pepper, if you can mount the drive and create the force file, that might work
[16:36] <euptc> I unintentionally caused an error in a program and it had shortly begun to tax up my processor
[16:36] <bribroder> did you boot into the cd and immediately try to run fsck? didn't browse the drive or anything?
[16:37] <pepper> bribroder: i can't mount, but I'm not getting any error messages either. it just takes forever, nothing happens, no hard drive sounds etc
[16:37] <Out_Cold> Chr|s, things break on linux.... we don't pay techs millions of dollars to produce shoddy patches and updates like another well known OS... Our techs produce shoddy patches and fixes for free :D
[16:37] <newkno> Amending my earlier cry for help with correct URL:  Hi.  I've managed to make my system unbootable - trying to use http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - but Grub-rescue mode on my machine does not include all the commands described in that article (e.g. "linux," "cat," or "help")
[16:38] <wieshka> hey folks - i have question/problem - how can i route all network over VPN ppp0
[16:38] <wieshka> but keep existing routes active
[16:38] <wieshka> tehre is my rout -n output
[16:38] <wieshka> http://wieshka.pastebin.com/AmJdYeSU
[16:38] <pepper> newkno: have you tried "super grub disc"?
[16:39] <pepper> bribroder: no, i didn't do anything else
[16:39] <Chr|s> Out_Cold, I am familiar with Ubuntu and how it works. Thanks.
[16:40] <Chr|s> Just posted the crash/bug on launchpad
[16:40] <skjoedt> Need Help! apt-get install shows an error no matter what I install. It seems to be related to the new kernel I installed. "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.33-020633-generic (x86_64)" See http://pastebin.com/nbys7nDf
[16:40] <ericubuntu> ubuntu is getting stuck on loading screen after updates. ive tried using an older kernal with grub. just before the rebooting after updates, i did xrandr --newmode... not sure if that would cause it addmode wouldnt work though
[16:40] <juk> level09:nmap?
[16:40] <perlsyntax> in ubuntu 9.04 i was thinking is there gcc update i hope.
[16:41] <ellie> hello ppl
[16:41] <pepper> bribroder: i even told "system rescue cd" to put all files into cache, so there should not be any "blocking" of my hdd
[16:41] <perlsyntax> hey
[16:41] <ericubuntu> ubuntu is getting stuck on loading screen after updates. ive tried using an older kernal with grub.
[16:41] <level09> juk: seems like netstat works
[16:41] <level09> what does nmap do
[16:42] <newkno> pepper:  I have not - didn't know about such a disk.  But I have Knoppix, which lets me look at grub.cfg.
[16:42] <maitrey> Hi, can you please help me with this. I have out of box support for my ati hd 4350 in ubuntu 10.04 but my modem is not supported. would i get the same support for my ati when using the ubuntu 9.04 since I know that the modem is working on 9.04
[16:42] <maitrey> ??
[16:42] <newkno> pepper:  I'm looking for a quick and easy solution for now - just to get the system booted.  I can fix things properly later.
[16:42] <gsyxdzc> ???
[16:43] <ellie> I've got a serious problem...I've 10.04 Lucid Lynx, and sometimes (too often now) it freezes, and the only thing I can do is to press the on/off button to restart...can somebody help me?
[16:43] <newkno> There should be a series of commands to let me boot.
[16:43] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ok so I installed wine through the synaptic package manager but its not in the menu and the folder is not in /home/me/ but synaptic package manager shows it is installed ... why
[16:43] <nsd> What's the best location to put third party software on a ubuntu machine such that it would be accessible to all users, and should I change ownership to root? Furthermore, where would I put symbolic links to the executable?
[16:43] <jlaroche> how can I change the sound theme in ubuntu 10.04
[16:43] <annon> ellie: which graphic card have you got?
[16:43] <jrib> nsd: I use /usr/local/ if it has a unixy structure and /opt otherwise
[16:43] <newkno> The file systems on my primary drive got renamed when I repartitioned to take some space from the swap partition to give it to /boot, which I had made too small.
[16:43] <ericubuntu> ubuntu is getting stuck on loading screen after updates. ive tried using an older kernal with grub.
[16:43] <bribroder> nsd, /opt or /usr/local
[16:43] <ellie> mmm... How can I know that?
[16:44] <nsd> jrib, bribroder: thanks
[16:44] <newkno> pepper: The file systems on my primary drive got renamed when I repartitioned to take some space from the swap partition to give it to /boot, which I had made too small
[16:44] <gsyxdzc> fgdf
[16:44] <Katsumi32> jlaroche, right left corner u see sound icon go to preferneces there u can change so sound or use synaptic and install some extra themes
[16:44] <nsd> maitrey: 9.04 will probably give you older ATI drivers; however, you can download and install the latest from AMD's site (AMD owns ATI)
[16:44] <euptc> did ubuntu issue recently security updates for linux headers?
[16:44] <ellie> msg->Annon i don't know
[16:44] <odinsbane> Is there a way to get x to dump a current xorg.conf
[16:44] <annon> ellie: I'm just asking, because I had the same problem with an ATI graphic card. the drivers where somehow faulty. but there could also be a multitude of other causes.
[16:44] <pepper> newkno: super grub disc might be the proper tool. it has some repair-automatically-stuff : http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/
[16:45] <jm2db> dfsd
[16:46] <ericubuntu> ubuntu is getting stuck on loading screen after updates. ive tried using an older kernal with grub.
[16:46] <Chr|s> anyone have any idea about Bug #642143
[16:46] <saji89_> jlaroche, please see these post at ubuntuforums-http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1325612 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1077124
[16:46] <bribroder> ericubuntu, did you try recovery mode?
[16:46] <newkno> pepper:  I don't want to go that route right now.  There is a much easier fix - I just need to find the right commands.
[16:47] <jlaroche> Katsumi32: I have a strong feeling that the sound theme selection is not really instantiated
[16:47] <pepper> bribroder: do you have any other ideas?
[16:47] <jlaroche> Katsumi32: have you seen system-->preferences-->sound ? You can't do anything in there
[16:47] <newkno> pepper:  For starters, I'd like to know why I don't have all the commands described in the article in grub rescue mode.
[16:47] <newkno> pepper:  I'll try your suggestion later if all else fails, though.
[16:47] <bribroder> pepper, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=595345
[16:47] <euptc> yes, or no
[16:48] <Katsumi32> jlaroche, i know the sound themes ar useless :) sorry u can instal some ppa sound themes i think
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[16:48] <jlaroche> Katsumi32: It says "Sound Theme: Ubuntu" but you can't change any individual sounds for any individual instanaces
[16:48] <bribroder> well that was delightful
[16:48] <bribroder> pepper, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=595345
[16:49] <newkno> pepper:  I don't want an auto repair anyway - I know it's just a matter of telling grub where the boot device got moved - it's now in a partition with a different name (moved from /dev/sda6 to /dev/sda7)
[16:49] <jlaroche> well... it looks like Ubuntu fails again... and on something as simple as changing my startup sound (not to be confused with the user login sound)...
[16:49] <bribroder> who is fuhrer lorez?
[16:49] <jrib> bribroder: ignore them please
[16:49] <shane__> Hello everyone.
[16:50] <perlsyntax> ?
[16:50] <shane__> How experienced is everyone here with WINE?
[16:50] <jrib> shane__: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[16:50] <bazhang> shane__, #winehq is very much so
[16:50] <csmith1994> Hey guys my dad's winblows computer got completely full and now it won't start i'm trying to get in by making a live usb out of my ipod touch how can i do that
[16:50] <bribroder> shane__, a glass with dinner, nothing more than $10
[16:50] <csmith1994> briboder: ha!
[16:51] <pepper> newkno: okay, good luck, don't know why there are not all of the commands :)
[16:51] <jrib> !install > csmith1994
[16:51] <euptc> did ubuntu issue recently security updates for linux headers? Yes or No
[16:51] <denny> mu
[16:51] <jrib> euptc: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[16:51] <jrib> euptc: if you want to check packages, look at packages.ubuntu.com
[16:51] <denny> jlaroche: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/437429
[16:51] <Resnik> any easy way to install webmin on version 9.10 ?
[16:52] <jrib> !webmin | Resnik
[16:52] <Scunizi> jrib: did you notice he wanted to make a live cd out of his "iPod Touch" ... nothing ubuntu related about that question.
[16:52] <jrib> Scunizi: if he can use the ipod touch as a plain usb disc (don't know if you can) I guess it would work ok
[16:52] <Resnik> !ebox
[16:52] <Resnik> thanks!
[16:53] <Scunizi> jrib: hadden't thought of trying that.. using it like a usb drive.. means wiping out most everything on it though..
[16:53] <bribroder> pepper, so you get to grub, at what point does the system freeze?
[16:54] <karlo> can you put website in ubuntu one cloud ?
[16:54] <pepper> bribroder, it does not freeze, i get the following: http://dobbod2010.blogspot.com/2010/01/ubuntu-no-init-found-try-passing.html
[16:54] <Milos_SD> Hi
[16:55] <pepper> bribroder: i get error messages like that and that initramsfs shell is dropped
[16:55] <Milos_SD> Is there a way to get Sis Mirage 3 M672 to work on Ubuntu?
[16:55] <bribroder> pepper, I would definitely first try this from a real live cd
[16:55] <bribroder> if you're in busybox
[16:56] <PyjamaSpank> i left my pc locked and i came back and it had frozen, anyway to look at logs to see when it froze?
[16:56] <pepper> bribroder: i am in a real live mode, :) bootet from usb "system rescue cd"
[16:57] <bribroder> pepper, cool tool
[16:58] <Resnik> !webmin
[16:58] <pepper> bribroder: yeah, it has all that rescue/check/whatever commands, so i thought i'd give it a try :)
[16:58] <Resnik> hmpf, any idea why apt-get would not want to find ebox package?
[16:59] <bribroder> pepper, this looks promising: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[16:59] <OneMillionDollar> is there any app that i can use to extract webstie data ?
[17:00] <jrib> OneMillionDollar: too vague
[17:00] <bribroder> you can extract website data with your mouse
[17:00] <bribroder> or your printer
[17:01] <OneMillionDollar> ok in windows there's a software called web extractor
[17:01] <OneMillionDollar> it is for extracting info automatically and then i save the info
[17:01] <pepper> bribroder: thanks, it's included in systemrescuecd, i'll give it a try
[17:02] <jrib> OneMillionDollar: you're still being too vague.  What exactly do you want to "extract"?
[17:02] <jrib> OneMillionDollar: say what you would want to extract from "google.com" for example
[17:02] <bribroder> jrib, i think he wants metadata
[17:02] <Raptors> Does anyone know how to embed a image in a comment on a disqus site?
[17:02] <bazhang> web scraping OneMillionDollar for a blog?
[17:03] <bribroder> urls, emails, phone numbers
[17:03] <bazhang> datamining?
[17:03] <prower> jrib: The program he's talking about is for scraping personal info from websites and storing it automatically..."marketing purposes"
[17:03] <prower> (i.e. spammage)
[17:04] <bazhang> ah then yes
[17:04] <bribroder> you should print out the websites and scan them into your computer
[17:04] <bribroder> just use a highlighter to mark the SSNs, phone numbers, addresses, etc
[17:05] <studentz> Hi there I  `rm` an app from the CLI. But it also delete other dependent  libs. I cannot recall the others libs from synaptic How i can recall the dependent libs that i erase?
[17:05] <OneMillionDollar> so what app allow datamining in ubuntu
[17:05] <bribroder> studentz, reinstall the app
[17:05] <jrib> studentz: what exactly did you execute?
[17:06] <jrib> OneMillionDollar: wget and grep
[17:07] <studentz> jrib sudo apt-get remove app
[17:07] <bribroder> studentz, just type the command to reinstall the app
[17:07] <jrib> studentz: I guess « apt-cache depends PACKAGE » would give you some hints at least
[17:07] <bribroder> it'll tell you what dependencies it needs to install
[17:08] <studentz> bribroder  But I do not want  install the app again
[17:08] <studentz> jrib let me try
[17:08] <bribroder> you don't have to actually install it
[17:08] <bribroder> just answer N when it prompts for confirmation
[17:08] <fedora_newb> hey guys, if i were to buy a flash drive, what would be a good size for running ubuntu off it? I am a web developer and what not, so would like 4 gigs be big enough?
[17:08] <bribroder> you'll see the list of packages it will install listed
[17:09] <bribroder> fedora_newb, a live cd or a full installation?
[17:09] <fedora_newb> full install, bribroder
[17:09] <bribroder> 8 would be better, but you can squeeze it in
[17:10] <fedora_newb> how much space does ubuntu take? on full install?
[17:10] <bribroder> depends what you put in it... I build up mine from the minimal install and it's quite a bit smaller than the general distribution
[17:11] <bribroder> 2-4gb i would say though--anyone else?
[17:11] <seanh> Hey, I'm trying to burn an ISO file to a CDRW on Ubuntu 10.10, but every time I try to blank the disc Brasero says "Unknown error"
[17:12] <bribroder> fedora_newb, you want some space for /tmp files and new software, though
[17:12] <jrib> !10.10 | seanh
[17:13] <jrib> bribroder: that's probably a good guess, though I don't remember exactly how much space a fresh install occupies at the moment
[17:13] <AbhiJit> hi
[17:13] <studentz> jrib It works. But how I know which of them are installed and which are not (30 in total)? (I mean  no one by one using synaptic)
[17:13] <bribroder> good morning!
[17:13] <chibihogoshino> were would i find what the kernel updates are ?
[17:13] <Darrow> Morning. :D
[17:14] <jrib> studentz: aptitude search magic?
[17:14] <jpds> chibihogoshino: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[17:14] <chibihogoshino> does that include the change log ?
[17:14] <studentz> jrib which is the command?
[17:14] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[17:14] <AbhiJit> i need to reinstall ubuntu. so which way i go? install 10.04 and do update or download 10.04.1 and do update? because my speed takes me 7 hours to downlaod one cd
[17:14] <jrib> fedora_newb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent has some advice
[17:14] <fedora_newb> bribroder, yea, i have it installed on an external usb hdd thats a 150gigs, but think it would be faster on a usb flash drive, so i might just get the 8 gigs so i have enough space
[17:15] <bribroder> AbhiJit, why wouldn't you download 10.4.1?
[17:15] <jrib> AbhiJit: if you already have 10.04 just use that and upgrade
[17:15] <AbhiJit> bribroder, i said that in question = needs 7 hours to download
[17:15] <AbhiJit> jrib, ok
[17:15] <seanh> jrib, sorry, I meant 10.04
[17:15] <seanh> Hey, I'm trying to burn an ISO file to a CDRW on Ubuntu 10.10, but every time I try to blank the disc Brasero says "Unknown error"
[17:15] <studentz> jrid  aptitude search magic <PACKAGE>  It is correct?
[17:15] <bribroder> AbhiJit, try a different mirror
[17:15] <seanh> Hey, I'm trying to burn an ISO file to a CDRW on Ubuntu 10.04, but every time I try to blank the disc Brasero says "Unknown error"
[17:15] <AbhiJit> jrib, can you tell me whey i am being sent to #ubuntu-unregged? while i have registerd nick?
[17:15] <seanh> sorry
[17:15] <AbhiJit> bribroder, no its my speed problem
[17:16] <jrib> AbhiJit: your client tried to join the channel before you were identified
[17:16] <AbhiJit> jrib, ok.
[17:16] <guest0001> hello everyone
[17:16] <bribroder> get thee a nickname
[17:17] <guest0001> ok hold on
[17:17] <bribroder> AbhiJit, maybe go for 10.04 if it's a faster download
[17:17] <bribroder> you can install more quickly and then let it update from the desktop
[17:17] <krogers0001> ok i changed my nickname
[17:17] <AbhiJit> bribroder, i alrready have 10.04 cd with me
[17:18] <bribroder> AbhiJit, well if installing is your priority, go ahead with the cd and do updates over the next few hours
[17:18] <AbhiJit> bribroder, yah
[17:18] <Lokrat> Hello, I've deleted my sound icon from the top bar near the clock...and the envelope. How do I get them back?
[17:18] <krogers0001> can someone help me change my login theme on ubuntu 10.04?
[17:19] <bribroder> krogers0001, type: gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties
[17:19] <krogers0001> thank you so much
[17:19] <bribroder> have fun
[17:20] <bribroder> Lokrat, right click on the panel, click add to panel
[17:21] <PotcFdk> Hello. I want to know how to host Ubuntu applications on launchpad. I've read several tutorials already, but I somehow don't understand them.
[17:21] <bribroder> Lokrat, it's the Indicator Applet
[17:21] <Lokrat> bribroder,  Can't find volume and envelope there.
[17:21] <Lokrat> aaahhh
[17:21] <PotcFdk> Launchpad seems to need source-packages or sth. like that, but how/when are they going to be compiled?
[17:21] <AbhiJit> PotcFdk, try in #launchpad
[17:21] <Lokrat> bribroder,  I got it, thanks so much
[17:21] <bazhang> !ppa
[17:21] <bribroder> :)
[17:21] <PotcFdk> I know!
[17:22] <jrib> PotcFdk: the packages get built after you upload them
[17:22] <krogers0001> bribroder it opened my appearence theme window do i just drag and drop a gdm theme  into that window?
[17:22] <nakhlawi> Lokrat: I think it is called "Volume Control"
[17:22] <Lokrat> nakhlawi,  I found it, thanks as well
[17:23] <ColonelC81> I need hardware Driver advice please?!
[17:23] <PotcFdk> Hmm. Okay. So my problem is creating the source binaries.... It looks so complicated, with the makefiles and so on.....
[17:23] <bribroder> lol ColonelC81
[17:23] <Tasman> is there any alternative for opensssh-server?
[17:23] <PotcFdk> Anybody who is ready to help me step-by-step?
[17:23] <jrib> PotcFdk: "source binaries" erm
[17:23] <PotcFdk> packages
[17:23] <bribroder> krogers0001, I haven't tried that, go for it
[17:23] <jrib> !packaging | PotcFdk
[17:23] <c4181> Can i get some help?
[17:23] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ok I installed wine and it wasnt in the home/user folder until I typed winecfg then the folder showed up but its still not in the menu
[17:24] <bribroder> krogers0001, whatever changes you make to this window will show up on your login screen
[17:24] <jrib> PotcFdk: this is only if you want a ppa.  You can just use launchpad's bzr services for hosting code too
[17:24] <sedulous> Tasman: dropbear
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> Tasman:  busybox can do a ssh server.. but i dont see why you would want to use that.
[17:24] <AbhiJit> PotcFdk, someone in #ubuntu-packaging may be?
[17:24] <krogers0001> ok thank you
[17:24] <krogers0001> goodbye everyone
[17:24] <Tasman> !ssh
[17:24] <Tasman> !openssh
[17:24] <ibrahim-kasem> krogers0001: bye
[17:24] <Tasman> Dr_Willis, because it is giving some problem..
[17:24] <Thingymebob> !ask | c4181
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> Tasman:  thats odd.. its proberluy one of the most used packages out there for linux.
[17:24] <ColonelC81> The hardware drivers app only shows my graphics card, it doesn't show the usb DVB dongle I have. Any thoughts?
[17:25] <c4181> I'm having a problem upgrading from Ubuntu 8.04.
[17:25] <Tasman> i am telling my friend to install it.. so that i can ssh into him... but he says some problem saying unsatisfied dependence openssh-client
[17:25] <Tasman> i will call him.. here.
[17:25] <PotcFdk> jrib: Yes, I want a ppa. I've read that tut already, but I can't get it working / its too compicated. Are there automatic .deb builder programs (like assistants), or do you know somebody who could help me step-by-step?
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> Tasman:  i would say do a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' then try install ing it again.
[17:25] <jrib> PotcFdk: follow the examples there first. Create a hello world, etc.
[17:26] <PotcFdk> that was my first try - a hello world program ... :(
[17:26] <Tasman> Dr_Willis, another problem.. no good bandwidth. is there anyway to upgrade only openssh-client?
[17:26] <Tasman> he said it says openssh-client is of some older version than required version for openssh-server
[17:26] <jrib> PotcFdk: well what's the issue?  Can you not create a package on your own machine or did you create the package but can't upload to the ppa/
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> Tasman:  the whole ssh/client/server package isent very big.
[17:26] <ColonelC81> anyone willing to help an IRC and Ubuntu n00b?
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> !info openssh-server
[17:26] <Calinou> uh
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> !info openssh-client
[17:27] <PotcFdk> jrib: I wrote it in c, so I had a .c source file. My problem are: makefiles, the whole .deb package thing, and the uploading
[17:27] <AbhiJit> ColonelC81, directly ask your question in one line with details
[17:27] <Thingymebob> c4181, What exactly is the problem you're experiencing
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> c4181:  state the problem to the channel and see what people can do
[17:27] <c4181> Ok.
[17:27] <jrib> PotcFdk: well forget about the ppa.  Concentrate on learning to create a package first.  There's a hello package in the repositories that the docs should talk about.  Start by understanding that.  The packaging guide is not difficult to follow, just long
[17:27] <Tasman> Dr_Willis, yes.. 1:5.3pl-3ubuntu3 in his. and aptitude says it needs to be 1:5.3pl-3Ubuntu4
[17:28] <PotcFdk> hmm
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> Tasman:  i would still say the update/upgrade is the best way to fix the issue
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> Tasman:  or remove/reinstall both the client and server perhaps...  but no idea if thats the issue or not with his stuff
[17:28] <ColonelC81> I have a DVB dongle plugged into my pc via a hub. I was hoping the Hardware Drivers application would show it and help my install relevant drivers. However the only pievce of hardware on the list is my graphics card which is enabled and working. why isn't the usb dongle there?
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> ColonelC81:  try plugging it in directly and see if it shows up.
[17:29] <ColonelC81> ok
[17:29] <AbhiJit> !hardware > ColonelC81
[17:29] <AbhiJit> !tv > ColonelC81
[17:29] <Tasman> Dr_Willis, ok thanks.. will tell him to try that
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> ColonelC81:  check the lsusb command also.
[17:29] <erUSUL> ColonelC81: maybe the needed drivers are already installed.
[17:30] <ColonelC81> me tv and myth tv can't detect the dongle
[17:30] <jrib> PotcFdk: so... you should go step by step, and if a particular step doesn't do what you expect, then ask about that.  But just asking for someone who can read the guide to you, well I don't expect too many people willing to do that.  #ubuntu-motu is a great resource for packaging questions
[17:30] <erUSUL> ColonelC81: do this in a terminal « tailf /var/log/messages » then plug the dongle and see the new messages that appear in the terminal. if the srivers are present you should see something about a /dev/video0-1-2 created
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> ColonelC81:  its possible its just not supported by linux also.
[17:30] <PotcFdk> jrib: Just in case I still won't get it: Do automatic .deb builders exist?
[17:31] <DragonKeeper> hi
[17:31] <jrib> PotcFdk: not ones that create proper packages, no
[17:31] <bribroder> gutentag, DragonKeeper
[17:31] <PotcFdk> hmm okay.
[17:31] <PotcFdk> jrib: What about source-packages? They need makefiles, don't they?
[17:31] <DragonKeeper> i know in ubuntu you can have multiple monitors but can you stretch 1 window across all monitors ?
[17:32] <jrib> PotcFdk: not necessarily, and a source package is what you are creating
[17:32] <ColonelC81> no new message in terminal
[17:32] <PotcFdk> jrib: Then how does launchpad know how/what to build?
[17:32] <c4181> I am trying to upgrade from Ubuntu 8.04 to 10.04 and I keep getting this message. Error during commit 'E:Couldn't configure predepend jre for openoffice.org-writer2latex, probably a dependency cycle.' Restoring original system state What does this mean and how do I fix it?
[17:32] <jrib> PotcFdk: you tell it in the source package :/
[17:34] <juk> c4181: I heard it's impossible to hop over
[17:35] <bribroder> c4181, BFR
[17:35] <c4181> juk: Upgrade manager says that I can upgrade to 10.04
[17:35] <seanh> Hey, anyone know about getting Microsoft Word and PowerPoint to work on Ubuntu 10.04? I'm reinstalling a friend's OS, would like to give him Ubuntu, but he has MS Office stuff and I don't want to just give him Open Office as there may be formatting issues etc
[17:36] <PotcFdk> jrib: but in the example hello .tar.gz there IS a makefile...
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> seanh:  see the wine app database..
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | seanh
[17:36] <DragonKeeper> i know in ubuntu you can have multiple monitors but can you stretch 1 window across all monitors ?
[17:36] <erUSUL> c4181: sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a
[17:36] <bribroder> seanh, you should virtualize windows in ubuntu and get the addons working so you can make it blend with ubuntu
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> seanh:  personaly i woudl stick with openoffice... but i dont have any word stuff at all to have issues with.
[17:36] <c4181> bribroder what?
[17:36] <NemesisD> anyone using google-chrome-stable? google just "built-in" chrome support to the browser, which means that not only does flash no longer work, but adobe's site scrapes my user agent and says i already have it
[17:37] <bribroder> c4181, backup your data, format your hard drive, and reinstall 10.04
[17:37] <erUSUL> c4181: then do a sudo apt-updater && sudo apt-get upgrade cycle. repeat sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a repeat untill done ?
[17:37] <bribroder> NemesisD, I use -unstable and it's working perfectly
[17:37] <PotcFdk> jrib: Even for this hello-world example it is freakin' BIG. And contains things such as "DISTFILES = $(DIST_COMMON) $(DIST_SOURCES) $(TEXINFOS) $(EXTRA_DIST)", I mean what the f***?
[17:37] <juk> c4181: get CD it's LTS
[17:38] <xangua> "built-in" chrome support NemesisD¿¿
[17:38] <NemesisD> built-in flash support, i misspoke
[17:38] <c4181> erUSUL terminal says sudo: dkpg: command not found
[17:38] <erUSUL> c4181: is dpkg; sorry typo
[17:38] <seanh> Dr_Willis, I don't see anything about Word or PowerPoint in the wine database
[17:39] <c4181> erUSUL Ok. Will try again.
[17:39] <DragonKeeper> seanh WORD works under PlayOnLinux
[17:39] <bribroder> seanh, you should virtualize windows in ubuntu with virtualbox and get the addons working so you can make it blend with ubuntu
[17:39] <DragonKeeper> i have MS Word on ubuntu so i know it works
[17:39] <seanh> bribroder, that's a good idea, his laptop only has 512mb ram though
[17:40] <bribroder> seanh, get him to use google docs :p
[17:40] <sillypenguin> hey, can anyone tell me if the chromium browser is used as default in other ubuntus other than lubuntu?
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> seanh:  i dont use eitehr.. and im sure theres mention of MS word/office in there somewhere. perhaps see the #winehq channel
[17:41] <AbhiJit> sillypenguin, firefox is the default browser
[17:41] <seanh> I would like to get him using Ooo, but the problem is that they use MS Windows at his school, I don't want him having issues when he makes a presentation of whatever (he's a teacher) at home and takes it into school
[17:41] <c4181> erUSUL Could you start again. I think I'm confused.
[17:41] <bribroder> c4181, seriously, just backup your data, format your hard drive, and reinstall 10.04
[17:41] <sillypenguin> AbhiJit, not in lubuntu, it's not
[17:42] <c4181> bribroder 10.04 is not installed
[17:42] <bribroder> well that's the idea, right?
[17:42] <sillypenguin> chromium doesn't work right for me so installed firefox... don't know why a distro would use it as the default browser when it's buggy
[17:42] <bribroder> c4181, ok, BFI then :0
[17:43] <erUSUL> c4181: at present you are stuck. run in a terminal « sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a » when it finish run  « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » if it get stuck again run the dpkg again. repeat that until buth commands do nothing ( which means the upgrade is complete )
[17:43] <NemesisD> bribroder: isn't unstable supposed to be way faster at some 2d graphics benchmark
[17:43] <NemesisD> since its 7.0
[17:43] <JamaKris> need help with a problem
[17:43] <PotcFdk> @jrib and all others: I think this is senseless, I won't understand it.... I think I'll just tarball them, and upload it to rapidshare or whatever.
[17:43] <jrib> PotcFdk: are you reading the makefile or something?  The tutorials don't explain how to use autotools nor create makefiles, that's a separate issue.  Assume the software already has the Makefile and follow the tutorial
[17:44] <PotcFdk> but....
[17:44] <bribroder> NemesisD, I'm not really sure, but I think that they've got hardware acceleration working
[17:44] <PotcFdk> jrib: but When I start my own project, I won't have a makefile.
[17:44] <c4181> erUSUL the first part isn't doing anything
[17:44] <JamaKris> need help with installing abgx360 and imgburn through wine
[17:44] <bribroder> NemesisD, but it's really not unstable for me at all. 10.04 64 bit
[17:44] <jrib> PotcFdk: how do you build the software?
[17:44] <erUSUL> c4181: and the second?
[17:44] <sillypenguin> look at this:  http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8231/chromiumg.png
[17:45] <PotcFdk> jrib: code::blocks + gcc
[17:45] <c4181> erUSUL Haven't gotten there
[17:45] <sillypenguin> but lubuntu ignores it..
[17:45] <AbhiJit> sillypenguin, what is your actual question?
[17:45] <jrib> PotcFdk: write a makefile or learn to use autotools I guess.  You can't use code::blocks in a deb package
[17:45] <sillypenguin> AbhiJit, my question is why would they use a buggy browser as default?
[17:46] <Katsumi32> silly penguin what one browser is buggy ?
[17:46] <JamaKris> can someone help me
[17:46] <jrib> PotcFdk: maybe #ubuntu-motu can give you additional tips as I generally just package python stuff
[17:46] <Katsumi32> JamaKris, ask question
[17:46] <sillypenguin> Katsumi32, chromium... it's a joke
[17:46] <PotcFdk> jrib: I know, but I can write the software... And when it's okay, I got a .c/.cpp source file. I just need a makefile for there, right?
[17:46] <AbhiJit> sillypenguin, ask in #Lubuntu
[17:47] <Katsumi32> no penguin dont be silly
[17:47] <sillypenguin> AbhiJit, I did...but, they don't answer
[17:47] <bribroder> NemesisD, in fact i've been installing the dev channel build on pretty much every computer in my office and it's never been a problem
[17:47] <juk> how to set splash pic?
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu has their own forukms also that may be more active
[17:47] <sillypenguin> lubuntu has no forum
[17:47] <sillypenguin> what are you talking about?
[17:47] <juk> I have put one in /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png
[17:47] <Katsumi32> sillypenguin, #lubuntu
[17:47] <xangua> sillypenguin: are you using an adblock plugin for chromium¿
[17:48] <PotcFdk> jrib: Is there a tutorial that starts from the BEGINNING? Something that starts just after I wrote my hello-world program in C/C++?
[17:48] <sillypenguin> xangua, i don't think so
[17:48] <c4181> erUSUL second part didn't install anything
[17:48] <jrib> PotcFdk: ask #ubuntu-motu what the best approach would be
[17:48] <juk> and in gconf-editor same value /splash/ubuntu-splash.png however i didnt notice my pic at boot time???
[17:48] <PotcFdk> jrib: okay.
[17:49] <JamaKris> can someone help me
[17:49] <xangua> sillypenguin: surelly you are since you can see fx with adblock and chomium also with adblock but disabled > http://img842.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tmpjo6zna.png
[17:49] <c4181> JamaKrs What is the problem
[17:49] <JamaKris> need help with installing abgx360
[17:49] <Katsumi32> JamaKris, stop trolling
[17:49] <experiMENTAL> where is xorg.conf file on ubuntu 10.04.1?
[17:50] <NemesisD> bribroder: yeah flash works for me with -unstable. good enough. thanks :D
[17:50] <juk> experimental: find /etc -name 'xorg.conf'
[17:50] <JamaKris> and how to install imgburn through wine
[17:50] <c4181> Can someone just help me upgrade to newest verison Ubuntu 8.04 can upgrade to?
[17:50] <ZykoticK9> experiMENTAL, there is no xorg.conf by default, if you need/want to create one see http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/create-an-xorg-conf-file
[17:51] <Katsumi32> JamaKris, wine question here #winehq
[17:51] <juk> c4181:why dont you just get a CD?
[17:51] <JamaKris> ok how about the abgx360
[17:51] <xangua> !upgrade | c4181
[17:51] <sillypenguin> i think it was adblock
[17:51] <xangua> JamaKris: what's that¿
[17:51] <sillypenguin> grrrrrrrrrr
[17:51] <ARTSIOM> Hi All! I have a source code for a driver for my hardware. Can someone please give me a guide of how to build a kernel module ouf this code and add it to the kernel.
[17:52] <c4181> juk How do I upgrade with CD. Ubuntu is installed on external hard drive and don't want to unhook internal again
[17:52] <Katsumi32> JamaKris, whats abgx360 ?
[17:52] <sillypenguin> xangua, I didn't know adblock works like that.
[17:52] <experiMENTAL> ZykoticK9: i don't really need to create one if it is possible to fix my problem without that. i have problem with monitor detection.
[17:52] <lrb> c4181: try removing the problem package, then upgrade to 10.04 and reinstall that package. sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-writer2latex
[17:52] <sillypenguin> I thought not all images were blocked
[17:52] <experiMENTAL> ZykoticK9: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1576526
[17:52] <ZykoticK9> experiMENTAL, what graphics card are you using?
[17:52] <xangua> sillypenguin: yo can define your adblock rules or use another adblock list
[17:53] <sillypenguin> xangua, yeah, just discovered that... :-/
[17:53] <experiMENTAL> ZykoticK9: moment, plz. i'll check.
[17:53] <sillypenguin> I installed the adblock button extension
[17:53] <ZykoticK9> experiMENTAL, "lspci | grep -i vga" if you aren't sure
[17:53] <sillypenguin> to select what pages to allow adblocking... *slaps forehead*
[17:53] <Dice-Man> hello i'm looking for the dev of the iat packet if he is here please highlight me
[17:54] <odinsbane> can I change the default image editor for Eye of Gnome to be Gimp?
[17:54] <xangua> in fx you can also disable adlbock for certain sites, no idea if that option is also aviabl for some adblock addon in chromium sillypenguin
[17:54] <cowboy79> Hi everybody first time on IRC found it a bit confusing to set up on empathy to xchat it is
[17:54] <sillypenguin> when it installs, does it give the options or just block everything?  i can't remember
[17:54] <elijah> If I am running Maverick beta, when stable comes out, do I just apply the updates or do I need to do something else to stay at stable?
[17:54] <David-SDX> hey, guys someone help with netbook problems?
[17:54] <pipeep> I like the new spam-bot prevention channel thing
[17:54] <David-SDX> netbook edition
[17:55] <Katsumi32> elijah, just updates
[17:55] <ZykoticK9> elijah, #ubuntu+1 for beta questions - but yes, you can just update files to get to final
[17:55] <xangua> elijah: yes, no; for more go to #ubuntu+1
[17:55] <juk> !10.10 | elijah
[17:55] <David-SDX> anyone has netbook edition that is on?
[17:55] <c4181> Irb Thanks! Hopefully that will fix the problem.
[17:55] <sillypenguin> xangua, i don't remember it working like that...but, I'm not as familiar with chrome/chromium browsers
[17:55] <Katsumi32> xangua, your answer is the best
[17:55] <David-SDX> anyone with netbook experience please im me
[17:55] <experiMENTAL> ZykoticK9: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphic Controller (rev 03)
[17:55] <David-SDX> and wine experience :)
[17:55] <David-SDX> need help with that also
[17:56] <Dice-Man> oh wine is cool
[17:56] <Katsumi32> David-SDX, yeah many people got laptop
[17:56] <txt-file> David-SDX: what do you want to do?
[17:56] <Dice-Man> not really difficult to approach
[17:56] <c4181> David-SDX I have a little bit of wine experince
[17:56] <Katsumi32> David-SDX, about wine ask on #winehq
[17:56] <David-SDX> well, first i want to remove the sub menus
[17:56] <David-SDX> okay well i will go there after i remove my sub menus
[17:56] <lrb> c4181: see this post if you are going that route. http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1533336
[17:56] <ZykoticK9> experiMENTAL, sorry man, i can't really help with intel or ati issues, not familiar enough with using them.  best of luck.
[17:57] <Livingroom> o hai fellow ubuntuans
[17:57] <c4181> Irb Thanks! So far so good.
[17:57] <Solved> my live cd keeps freezing for 10.04 LTS help!
[17:57] <David-SDX> winhq is dead lol
[17:57] <David-SDX> someone that has time and wants to help me im me
[17:57] <David-SDX> thanks
[17:57] <Katsumi32> David-SDX, no theyre still alive just wait few secs
[17:57] <ARTSIOM> I have a source code for a driver for my hardware. Can someone please give me a guide of how to build a kernel module ouf this code and add it to the kernel. Ubuntu 10.04.
[17:58] <Thingymebob> odinsbane,  gconf-editor change apps->eog->ui->external editor to gimp.desktop
[17:58] <AbhiJit> David-SDX, its #winehq
[17:58] <Solved> my live cd keeps freezing for 10.04 LTS help!
[17:58] <David-SDX> i got it
[17:58] <Dice-Man> does anyone here use iat for converting bin images to iso ?
[17:58] <gagzilla> what's the best way to create a live-usb distro from the running set of packages? In other words I'd like to create a distro from just the packages I have running right now. Thx in advance
[17:58] <David-SDX> someone with netbook experiene im me
[17:58] <Katsumi32> ARTSIOM, what driver ? what for is it ?
[17:58] <Dice-Man> i'm using it and i havce the matrix on my terminal
[17:58] <Dice-Man> that's is crazy
[17:59] <AbhiJit> David-SDX, taking help in main channel is recommended
[17:59] <David-SDX> okay
[17:59] <ARTSIOM> Katsumi32: it is SAS conroller driver. Originally it is available inly as RPM, but in SRPM folder there is a source code.
[17:59] <David-SDX> well, how do i remove the sub menus and how it normal so i can add things to my desktop?
[18:00] <xbonesx> Finally running 10.04 :D
[18:00] <experiMENTAL> ZykoticK9: ok, ty.
[18:00] <David-SDX> tell ,me what do you know what it
[18:00] <Katsumi32> ARTSIOM, there should be installation txt with the driver you have got normally its included or there should be info on the web you have got the driver from
[18:01] <m0ej0e> Hello, I am having an issue with Rhythmbox, I get feedback enven when I have all input devices disabled. any ideas?
[18:01] <Katsumi32> ARTSIOM, sometimes u have install drivers in different ways
[18:01] <m0ej0e> *even when
[18:01] <Katsumi32> xbonesx, im happy for you
[18:02] <xbonesx> runs a lot faster than 9.04
[18:02] <AbhiJit> xbonesx, glay do know! :)
[18:03] <Katsumi32> AbhiJit, only english is allowed
[18:03] <xbonesx> Katsumi32: ;p;
[18:03] <ARTSIOM> Katsumi32: do you think it will work like this?: -  I have a source code (with makefile and so on). How to build *.so lib out of it, and than how to include it as a kernel module?
[18:03] <xbonesx> hahaha lol*
[18:03] <AbhiJit> Katsumi32, :D
[18:03] <ARTSIOM> Katsumi32: does it makes sence at all?
[18:03] <AbhiJit> [18:03] <xbonesx> i got it lol
[18:03] <David-SDX> is it possible to remove the sub-menus?
[18:04] <Katsumi32> ARTSIOM, normally u have to cd to the folder with the driver u have got sometimes u have to configure before u make and install the driver
[18:04] <DarsVaeda> hi, in windows i can press shift + ` then a to get the graph above the a, how does that work in ubuntu? because apparently it doesnt
[18:04] <flux_> hi - i just missed the software selection part at ubuntu minimal - how can i fire it up after reboot? was it dselect?
[18:05] <Katsumi32> ARTSIOM, thats why you should find there should be installation txt file together with the driver  u can try first cd to the folder than make and sudo make install
[18:05] <flux_> at ubuntu minimal installation
[18:05] <elijah> What is the difference between apt-get clean vs apt-get autoclean?
[18:06] <juk> elijah: apt-get | grep clean
[18:06] <m0ej0e> Hello all, anyone found a means to correct audio feedback within Rhythmbox?
[18:06] <erUSUL> flux_: probably tasksel ?
[18:07] <erUSUL> elijah: clean removes all deb packages in cache. autoremove only the obsolete ones
[18:07] <alaing> hi i have just installed 10.04 server edition how do i setup my wifi. I can see wlan0 whe ni do ifconfig -a
[18:07] <flux_> yes just googled it ty
[18:07] <xbonesx> I noticed the scrolling of the mouse when hovering over the background doesnt switch between workspaces anymore :(
[18:07] <DarsVaeda> how do i get the accent above the a letter?
[18:08] <erUSUL> alaing: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpasupplicant
[18:08] <Katsumi32> elijah, my advice install BleachBit to clean your ubuntu
[18:08] <elijah> juk: I should clarify my question better. What is the difference between apt-get clean vs apt-get autoclean? Further, what clarifies a file as an "old" downloaded archive files?
[18:08] <erUSUL> flux_: google before asking. not after ;P
[18:08] <elijah> !bleachbit
[18:08] <Katsumi32> clean remove junk only autoclean will remove on top of it not used packages
[18:08] <ibrahim-kasem> exit\
[18:08] <alaing> i dont want to enable wpa just yet
[18:09] <elijah> Katsumi32: I think I get it now, thanks
[18:09] <erUSUL> alaing: so it is wep? open?
[18:09] <SomethingISodd> Hello all, quick question every package i try to install including wine i keep getting a error stating package operation failed. and it doesnt matter what i try to install either by the software center or apt-get i get the same error
[18:09] <mithridates> Hey guys, I get "Bad magic number in super-block" error from my external usb hard drive, I am wondering how can I completely format it and make the file system from scratch because I don't have any data on that
[18:09] <Solved> my live cd keeps freezing for 10.04 LTS help!
[18:09] <erUSUL> SomethingISodd: paste the errors you get in a pastebin
[18:09] <alaing> its open at the moment i wanto install gnome desktop
[18:09] <flux_> i did - but i thought it was dselect. then i searched for minimal installation guides, found a screenshot and then could google the right way. i apologize
[18:09] <juk> elijah: man apt-get
[18:09] <erUSUL> SomethingISodd: sudo apt-get install somepackage
[18:09] <xbonesx> Does someone know how to make the mouse scroll switch workspaces again?
[18:09] <Katsumi32> elijah,  you welcome next satisfied ubuntu customer :)
[18:09] <SomethingISodd> erUSUL,  ya i get the error with that as well
[18:10] <Solved> My Ubuntu 10.04 LTS live cd keeps freezing!
[18:10] <erUSUL> alaing: if it is open just « sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid YOUR_SSID » followed by « sudo dhclient wlan0 » should work
[18:10] <David-SDX> anyone help?
[18:10] <Katsumi32> Solved, what you mean ? screen freeze ? or cd stop working ?
[18:10] <David-SDX> anyone help
[18:10] <erUSUL> SomethingISodd: we need to see that error
[18:10] <erUSUL> !paste | SomethingISodd
[18:10] <David-SDX> trying to remvoe sub minues
[18:10] <SomethingISodd> erUSUL,  this is the error through the softare center http://pastebin.com/GrzHge56
[18:10] <Katsumi32> David-SDX, ask
[18:10] <Solved> screen freezed
[18:10] <m0ej0e> mithridates: look into a program called 'gparted'
[18:10] <Solved> and I have to reboot
[18:10] <David-SDX> trying to remove my sub-menus
[18:10] <DragonKeeper> can you stretch 1 window across all monitors ?
[18:11] <mithridates> m0ej0e: I've done that, didn't work
[18:11] <erUSUL> SomethingISodd: run  « sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a »
[18:11] <David-SDX> how do i remove the sub-menus on a netbook edition?
[18:11] <Katsumi32> Solved, is your live cd persistant?  are you planning to install ubuntu on hdd? did you try to activate drivers in hardware drivers?
[18:11] <m0ej0e> mithridates: could you please expand on 'didn't work'
[18:11] <juk> elijah: to not get overeaded in manpages use ?foo it highlights in green light, saves time
[18:11] <SomethingISodd> erUSUL,  ok
[18:12] <derknecht> hi. i installed ffmpeg from trunk, and have no wmv module on ubuntu 8.04 and debian5. on my gentoo ffmpeg has wmv1 and wmv2 module. there is no --enable-wmv flag i can use wenn configuring ffmpeg source. so what do i need to install to have wmv encoder in ffmpeg compiled? thanks
[18:12] <Solved> I have allready installed ubuntu, but I need to use gparted and I dont have full access without live cd
[18:12] <tdnicho> good morning...trying to install FreeFileSync in UBUNTU 10.04 but every time I try to run it I get an error while loading shared libraries:  libgtkmm-2.4.so.1:  cannot open shared object file:  No such file or directory
[18:12] <vladio> join #ubuntu
[18:12] <tdnicho> I'm stuck....pls help
[18:12] <madjoe> how could I upgrade my PHP to the most recent stable version?
[18:12] <David-SDX> anyone help, im trying to remove my sub-menus
[18:12] <madjoe> should I avoid doing that manually?
[18:12] <SomethingISodd> with that commend i get unknown option --reconfigure
[18:12] <jorge__> anyone here like metal?
[18:12] <erUSUL> tdnicho: how did you installed it?
[18:12] <bribroder> madjoe, install php5
[18:12] <suprengr> xbon
[18:12] <bribroder> and apt-get update
[18:13] <erUSUL> !ot | jorge__
[18:13] <SomethingISodd> erUSUL, (Sorry i forgot to put your name first last time) with that commend i get unknown option --reconfigure
[18:13] <madjoe> bribroder: I already have it installed... but it's 5.2.10ubuntu64
[18:13] <tdnicho> erUSUL, I downloaded a .tar.gz file, unpacked it and moved the contents to a ~/FreeFileSync directory...I'm trying to execute it from that directory from a command line
[18:13] <Katsumi32> Solved, do you have internet access? did you check hardware drivers?  if you cant use internet cuz of screen freeze try boot ubuntu in recovery mode minimal resolution
[18:13] <madjoe> bribroder: if I run sudo apt-get update, nothing happens
[18:14] <erUSUL> tdnicho: you will have to install the needed libs manually
[18:14] <mithridates> m0ej0e: let me see the disk utility, I guess something is changing there, I'll be right back
[18:14] <Solved> Yes I have internet access, and I can boot ubuntu regularly but I just cant boot live CD without it freezing
[18:14] <m0ej0e> mithridates: Ok, good luck!
[18:14] <Katsumi32> tdnicho, with the file come almost always installation txt file read it
[18:14] <erUSUL> tdnicho: install libgtkmm
[18:14] <tdnicho> erUSUL:  I have libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a installed via the Ubuntu Software Center....isn't that it?
[18:15] <erUSUL> tdnicho: the package name is libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a
[18:15] <vladio> Hi everybody, I am wondering if there is a good backup utility for ubuntu. My drive is getting bad clusters and will be replaced later. Is there something that would backup all my settings, games, internet links and stuff like that so that I would not have to reinstall everything?
[18:15] <erUSUL> tdnicho: yes and that package provides /usr/lib/libgtkmm-2.4.so.1
[18:15] <bribroder> madjoe, try uninstalling and purging
[18:15] <mithridates> m0ej0e: It solved, I had to creat the partition by disk utility, I tried all ways by cfdisk, gparted, even acronis in windows. I don't know what was the problem but it solved finally
[18:15] <erUSUL> !backup | vladio
[18:15] <David-SDX> anyone help
[18:16] <David-SDX> ive been asking, how do i remvoe sub-menus
[18:16] <David-SDX> \and use normal desktop?
[18:16] <madjoe> bribroder: purging? how?
[18:16] <vladio> erUSUL thanks
[18:16] <bribroder> madjoe, actually, http://nixcraft.com/ubuntu-debian/11815-how-upgrade-php.html
[18:16] <erUSUL> SomethingISodd: is --configure -a sorry about that
[18:16] <tdnicho> thanks, erUSUL, I'm just not sure why it keeps coming up with that error when I have the library installed...
[18:16] <m0ej0e> mithridates: Good to hear! thank you for the update as well :)
[18:16] <Katsumi32> David-SDX, i dont know ask EroKaos
[18:16] <xbonesx> Does someone know how to make the mouse scroll switch workspaces again?
[18:16] <suprengr> ers
[18:16] <David-SDX> erokaos, can you help
[18:16] <erUSUL> tdnicho: rtried to find a deb package ?
[18:17] <SomethingISodd> erUSUL,  thank you
[18:17] <tdnicho> erUSUL, not sure how to do that...google search?
[18:17] <madjoe> bribroder: that's a turorial if I want to upgrade my PHP from PHP4 to PHP5
[18:17] <m0ej0e> Anyone here able to help a newbie with audio distortion issues?
[18:17] <David-SDX> anyone here with good netbook experiences?|
[18:18] <Katsumi32> m0ej0e, describe your problem
[18:18] <SomethingISodd> erUSUL,  http://pastebin.com/4RHEK62R
[18:18] <alaing> how do i enter in my essid if its two words
[18:18] <bribroder> perhaps you can extend it to upgrading from 5.2 to 5.3
[18:18] <suprengr> sorry about the sporadic 'partial' callouts just now... xchat tab auto complete stopped... now ok. Again, sorry.
[18:18] <David-SDX> anyone with netbook experience contact me
[18:19] <alaing> wassup David-SDX
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> David-SDX:  that rarely happens.. if you have a question.. ask in the channel
[18:19] <Katsumi32> David-SDX, how to contact you? over phone? or mail ?
[18:19] <erUSUL> tdnicho: looks very similar to grsync ( which is in the repos ) maybe that will fulfill your nneds?
[18:19] <m0ej0e> Katsuni32: Rhythmbox has intermittent distortion when playing songs. these files work fine in VLC. I have tried to lower the volumes and disable all unused audio related items. This has not worked.
[18:19] <alaing> erUSUL: how do i enter in my essid if its two words?
[18:19] <David-SDX> alaing, how do i remove sub-menus
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> David-SDX:  what submenus are you refering to?
[18:20] <alaing> yes what sub-menus?
[18:20] <David-SDX> the ones on netbook edition
[18:20] <tdnicho> erUSUL:  thanks...i'll check it out.
[18:20] <erUSUL> SomethingISodd: you shoud chack what went wrong with fglrx « /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/8.723.1/build/make.log »
[18:20] <erUSUL> alaing: quote it? "MY ESSID"
[18:20] <m0ej0e> Katsumi32: Version information -Rhythmbox 0.12.8-
[18:20] <alaing> oh notebook edition sorry I've never used netbook edition i've always used the full version
[18:21] <alaing> erUSUL: thansk I'll try that
[18:21] <SomethingISodd> ok
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> David-SDX:  try the alacarte program to edit menus
[18:21] <intrader> Ubuntu 10.04 on boot has the microphone live in feedback loop with speakers - what could be wrong?
[18:21] <David-SDX> okay
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> David-SDX:  the menus for applications are generated from the various .desktop files on the system
[18:21] <David-SDX> because it is just menus
[18:21] <David-SDX> no desktop\
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> There is a desktop. :) its just under everything, because that launcher app stays above it.
[18:22] <SomethingISodd> erUSUL,  this is what the log says http://pastebin.com/cSQSxAJ9
[18:22] <David-SDX> how do i remove it lol
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> David-SDX:  stop using the netbok interface.. and use the gnome desktop interface i guess...
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> David-SDX:  install ubuntu-desktop package, select the gnome desktop at the GDM login.
[18:23] <David-SDX> Dr_Willis, throught terminal?
[18:23] <erUSUL> SomethingISodd: you are sure you have the headers for the kernel installed?
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> David-SDX:  or via whatever package manager you like.
[18:23] <David-SDX> okay
[18:23] <alaing> erUSUL: didn't work. SET failed on device wlan0. Operation not permitted
[18:23] <Katsumi32> m0ej0e, there can be few issues i would say vlc use dofferent codec than  Rhythmbox but dont know much about how to help you maybe u could try #videolan #alsa
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> David-SDX:  if you wanted the normal gnome desktopp and not the netbook edition. you should of just isntalled the normal ubuntu .
[18:23] <David-SDX> can you give me name of it lol
[18:23] <SomethingISodd> erUSUL,  no. this is a new install and i know nothing about ubuntu.
[18:23] <erUSUL> alaing: you used sudo ?
[18:23] <David-SDX> i shouldve, but my comp is old
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> David-SDX:  i allready did;  its 'ubuntu-desktop'
[18:23] <doobien> Dr_Willis, used peppermint-linux, which is loosely based on lubuntu lucid
[18:24] <alaing> erUSUL: DOH!!! missed the sudo part
[18:24] <SomethingISodd> erUSUL,  everything thats been installed has been done through apt-get or the software center.
[18:24] <Katsumi32> m0ej0e, also u can try to upgrade  Rhythmbox if possible it may help
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> doobien:  i dident like pepermint.. it left a bad taste in my mouth. :P
[18:24] <m0ej0e> Katsumi32: Thanks, I find it rather strange as it is only with Rythmbox. I have an iPhone and the distortion also transfers to the device.
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> doobien:  most of the ubuntu-spinoffs are lacking in many ways.
[18:24] <doobien> Dr_Willis, everything worked afaik, and the cloud stuff was cool
[18:25] <sisterd> hello i'm on lucid lynx and having trouble with passwords and keyrings. No matter whatI do, it will not accept my chosen passwords, and i'm stuck always figuring out which passoword callis associated with which prior not-my-chosen-password option I chose at that time (eg one password was in use only once, one password ita ccepts was 3 times ago, one password is the one i choselast. i can never tell which it wants until it accepts one
[18:25] <erUSUL> SomethingISodd: maybe we should try to remove the packages that is giving problems « sudo aptitude remove fglrx-amdcccle fglrx »
[18:25] <SomethingISodd> k
[18:25] <intrader> All, if I don't get any answers/suggestions should I repeat request?
[18:25] <David-SDX> Dr_willis its installing, what do i do after its finished?\
[18:25] <sisterd> desired endstate: one password to rule them all, and that one not to require 3 or more different character types. I don't want to be typing and capsing and numbering and hyphenating etc every goddamn time i login or wake from sleep....
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> David-SDX:  install ubuntu-desktop package, select the gnome desktop at the GDM login.
[18:26] <Katsumi32> intrader, yeah
[18:26] <David-SDX> GDM login?
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> David-SDX:  'gdm' login screen.. select gnome from the menus at the bottom... yes.. 'gdm' is its name
[18:26] <David-SDX> sorry i just got linux lol
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> !manual | David-SDX
[18:26] <SomethingISodd> ok seems to have removed fine let me try installing something small like the flash player
[18:26] <SomethingISodd> and see what happens
[18:26] <intrader> All, Ubuntu 10.04 on boot has the microphone live in feedback loop with speakers - what could be wrong?
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> David-SDX:  time to read the manual a bit i guess.. :)
[18:26] <David-SDX> Dr_willis ive read some
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> !info gdm | David-SDX
[18:26] <erUSUL> SomethingISodd: install ubuntu-restricted-extras you will want that ( includes flash )
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> David-SDX:  gdm is what handles the initial login.
[18:27] <David-SDX> okay its finished
[18:27] <alaing> erUSUL: it recons no DHCP offers
[18:27] <SomethingISodd> erUSUL,  not to sound like a complete noob. but how do i do that??
[18:27] <David-SDX> should i restart or jsut logout then in?
[18:27] <alaing> but its seems to be looking on 255.255.255.255 instead of 255.255.255.0
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> David-SDX:  dosent matter.. you can just logout
[18:27] <umashanthi> hi
[18:28] <erUSUL> SomethingISodd: with the software center for instance. search for ubuntu-restriced-extras package
[18:28]  * Dr_Willis changes nicks quickly
[18:28] <DragonKeeper> can you stretch 1 window across all monitors ?
[18:28] <erUSUL> SomethingISodd: or in cli « sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restriced-extras »
[18:28] <haywardgb> dragon.. i can ;)
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> DragonKeeper:  i could with the nvidia drivers.. if i was carefull.. :)
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> DragonKeeper:  with out them.. it tended to do it by default...
[18:28] <suprengr> quit
[18:28] <DragonKeeper> i have ati hd 5770
[18:28] <Katsumi32> Dragnslcr, for sure u can i dont know how didnt need to do that
[18:28] <erUSUL> alaing: :/ « iwconfig » shows wlan0 associated to the ap ?
[18:28] <SomethingISodd> thanks erUSUL
[18:28] <umashanthi> I've installed Ubuntu 9.04 in my machine and now I installed WIndows 7. Now Ubuntu is not shown in the boot list. Any help?
[18:29] <erUSUL> !grub2 | umashanthi
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> DragonKeeper:  i couldent use the 'fullscreen' button. but i could drag the window half way tween the monitors.. then resize it to fill up both.
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> DragonKeeper:  with compiz you could proberly do it also
[18:29] <erUSUL> ubottu: in the wiki page there are instructions to recover grub
[18:29] <Katsumi32> umarmuha, remember ubuntu after windows first install windows than ubuntu
[18:29] <MaMoUs> What is the defult Asound.conf file ? i Remove my file and now, no mixing, Ubuntu 10.04
[18:29] <experiMENTAL> how to install vusb on ubuntu 10.04.1?
[18:29] <erUSUL> umashanthi: in the wiki page there are instructions to recover grub
[18:30] <DragonKeeper> i cNT WITH THE RESIZE AS WHEN GETS BIGGER THAN 1 SCREEN IT SNAPS IN PLACE    dR_wHILLIS
[18:30] <DragonKeeper> dam caps
[18:31] <Katsumi32> DragonKeeper, u have got ati card doesnt catalyst have some features to do that ?
[18:31] <david__> Dr_willis thanks i got it
[18:31] <david__> :)
[18:32] <umashanthi> erUSUL: they've mentioned to use a live CD. If I have the version 9.04 installed, do I need the same version of the live CD?
[18:32] <erUSUL> umashanthi: eerm... 9.04? then you need the grub1 instuctions sorry
[18:32] <erUSUL> !grub | umashanthi
[18:32] <lrb> madjoe: You are restricted to whatever php version is in the repo. To get latest php you need to compile from source.
[18:32] <erUSUL> umashanthi: yes; same version is best
[18:33] <DragonKeeper> katsumi32   it just lets me have 2 monitors but  wont use it as 1 screen  but as  Dektop 1  i  ii   Desktop 2  i ii
[18:33] <David-SDX> Dr_willis it works now :)
[18:33] <Trian3> Hello again...  I have a question pertaining to visual effects in Linux.  I've enabled the Extra effects under Appearance Preferences and it's nice and all, but I'm only seeing a few wobbly windows, open/close effects, etc.  I'm looking for the cube or sphere.  Do I need to install/setup Compiz for this?  And are the visual effects found under Appearance Preferences a dumbed down version of
[18:33] <Trian3> Compiz or is it something else entirely?
[18:33] <MaMoUs> What is the defult Asound.conf file ? i Remove my file and now, no mixing, Ubuntu 10.04
[18:33] <Katsumi32> DragonKeeper, what about compiz ? it has a lot of this sort of futures did you check it up?
[18:33] <Maahes_> Trian3, you must install compiz config settings manager
[18:33] <Maahes_> which will install compiz as well
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> David-SDX:  there may be some quirks from doing it this way. if the windows fullscreen and lose the title bar. its the 'maximus' program thats doing it..  You might want to disable or remove maximus
[18:34] <DragonKeeper> katsumi32 lookin now
[18:34] <haywardgb> Trian3: yes, you need compis!
[18:34] <Maahes_> also I recommend the extras package
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> night all...
[18:34] <haywardgb> Train3: I've got it installed, it's SICK!! Love it soooo much!
[18:34] <Maahes_> !grub2
[18:34] <haywardgb> Trian: not train, my bad ;)
[18:34] <Trian3> Maahes:  Ok, if I do that, should I disable the effects under Appearance Preferences due to a potential conflict?
[18:34] <Katsumi32> DragonKeeper, ask on #compiz
[18:34] <skrite1> hey  all
[18:34] <Maahes_> anyone have any information about securing a liveusb install? That is, replacing gdm's insistence on the "nopassword" user group, and replacing the ubuntu user?
[18:34] <vladio> Dr_Willis nite
[18:34] <Trian3> Haywardgb:  SWeet!  Can't wait!
[18:34] <haywardgb> Trian3: it does it for you..
[18:34] <AbhiJit> hello erkan^ long time? where were you? :)
[18:35] <Maahes_> Trian3, no, not necessary
[18:35] <erkan^> hey AbhiJit no long see :)
[18:35] <Katsumi32> AbhiJit, this is Ubuntu support channel not a dating channel
[18:35] <Trian3> Awesome, thank you both
[18:35] <erkan^> I was a holidays
[18:35] <Maahes_> bear in mind, the configs for compiz are a little daunting
[18:35] <erkan^> how are you, AbhiJit
[18:35] <AbhiJit> Katsumi32, what? really? its not dating channel? oh my god!
[18:35] <thedude42> anyone have a link for a quick fix for the 2.6.32-25-generic #44-Ubuntu kernel + fglrx?
[18:35] <Trian3> That's what tutorials are for, eh?  ;)
[18:35] <AbhiJit> erkan^, fine
[18:36] <erkan^> cool :)
[18:36] <haywardgb> I never had any issues with compiz, it just installed the gui and extras.. then used the gui to configure it..
[18:37] <Trian3> There's a youtube series of videos on setting up Compiz by some chic.  Going to see if those will get me what I need.
[18:37] <ComradeHaz`> Hi all. I am having some trouble with running the install as as soon as I select run from live cd or install, or indeed check cd for erros my display goes blank. That said, I know the sstem boots as if I select run from cd I eventually get the drums. Can someone assist, please?
[18:37] <ComradeHaz`> (FWIW, Windows installs and runs fine)
[18:37] <xue> hhi
[18:37] <xue> hi
[18:38] <xue> who is in?
[18:38] <Katsumi32> ComradeHaz`, try to make new live cd or usb to do that use lili
[18:38] <Maahes_> anyone have any information about securing a liveusb install? That is, replacing gdm's insistence on the "nopassword" user group, and replacing the ubuntu user?
[18:39] <karlo> I make "website" for terminal.. open it like this:  lynx --source http://ubuntuone.com/p/GZB/
[18:39] <Galeo> Hi. I'm trying to use a wireless, I used Windows Wireless Drivers to install a driver, which is recognized as proper and notifies the Hardware as beeing present. But I still can't pick up a network.
[18:39] <karlo> can somebody visit it so I can see if it works..
[18:40] <Galeo> karlo : I checked the link, and I get a blank page with the webiste adress on it
[18:40] <karlo> in terminal..
[18:41] <karlo> lynx --source http://ubuntuone.com/p/GZB/
[18:41] <ComradeHaz`> Katsumi, tried 2
[18:41] <ComradeHaz`> Katsumi32, rather.
[18:42] <intrader> karlo, if I may ask, what are you doing with ubuntuone and the website as terminal?
[18:42] <karlo> just testing :D
[18:42] <karlo> it's cool to have website in terminal .. xD
[18:43] <Katsumi32> ComradeHaz`, so after you selecting start live usb your screen goes blank ? can you access terminal or anything ?
[18:43] <ComradeHaz`> No, no TTYs work
[18:43] <Goliat> Hey anyone know a good media player that supports MKV?
[18:43] <intrader> karlo, like vnc in a webpage?
[18:43] <karlo> vnc?
[18:43] <erUSUL> Goliat: vlc? mplayer?
[18:44] <ComradeHaz`> And when I say blank I mean my monitor goes into standby
[18:44] <Goliat> I tried Mplayer but i got an error when i tried to run an MKV
[18:44] <intrader> karlo, remote access to your linux desktop
[18:44] <erUSUL> !codecs | Goliat
[18:44] <karlo> intrader, visit it .. so you will see :D..    lynx --source http://ubuntuone.com/p/GZB/
[18:46] <m0ej0e> Katsumi32: Just letting you know I performed an upgrade to the latest stable release and still have the same issue. Will keep searching :)
[18:46] <intrader> karlo, nice, mostly blank page with 'http://ubuntuone.com/p/GZB/' displayed
[18:46] <karlo> in terminal type:
[18:46] <karlo> * apensi5 (~apensi5@p5B3E120A.dip0.t-ipconnect.
[18:47] <karlo> lynx --source http://ubuntuone.com/p/GZB/
[18:47] <Katsumi32> m0ej0e, what the version you have got >? and what ubuntu do you have?
[18:47] <xdude> Didn't he say the latest?
[18:48] <AbhiJit> !hi | ashu
[18:48] <Katsumi32> m0ej0e, i found 0.13.0-1 ver Rhythmbox
[18:48] <ashu> hi abhijeet,
[18:48] <ashu> thanks
[18:48] <AbhiJit> !tab | ashu
[18:49] <m0ej0e> Katsumi32: I have 10.04 Ubuntu Rhythmbox was just upgraded to 0.13.1
[18:49] <Katsumi32> m0ej0e, and still the same problem ?
[18:50] <ComradeHaz`> Does an ubuntu live cd have a running ssh server by default?
[18:50] <m0ej0e> Katsumi32: I am wondering if it is a codec issue with Rhthmbox.
[18:50] <Sia--> ComradeHaz`, no
[18:50] <ComradeHaz`> :(
[18:50] <m0ej0e> Katsumi32: Yup, still the same issue, it is like I have a remix collection of my music :p
[18:50] <Sia--> ComradeHaz`, install it or use ubuntu server with VNC ..etc
[18:51] <ComradeHaz`> Yeah, easier said than done. :D
[18:51] <erUSUL> !ops | karlo
[18:51] <haywardgb> anyway of getting genius mixes "style" thing on Rythmbox?
[18:52] <niko> Hals karlo
[18:52] <tonghuix> hi, every one
[18:52] <tonghuix> happy SFD today!
[18:52] <intrader> karlo, I tried lynx, but it just gives a wellcome page and quits.You are having am issue with ubottu?
[18:52] <codi> I have a server with two domain names. Should both be in my hosts file?
[18:53] <erUSUL> intrader: is a troll of sorts. ignore the request
[18:53] <Maahes_> I found a guide for enabling no password, which gives me some of the info I need, but the live session is installed in such a way as to *require* the user to have no password, any idea how I change this?
[18:53] <intrader> erUSUL: thanks
[18:53] <ComradeHaz`> is tty1 enabled on a live cd?
[18:53] <erUSUL> jpds: you are wellcome
[18:54] <Sia--> Maahes_, just disable password in login or let sudo running by user without password
[18:54] <Amaranth> That was certainly in interesting way to advertise
[18:54] <AbhiJit> if i half installed a update. then how to search back which was they and how to reinstall them?
[18:54] <Maahes_> Sia--, no, that's what I wan't to disable. I want there to be a password login. GDM is preventing me from logging in with a password login
[18:55] <alaing> erUSUL: iwconfig says wlan0. what is it that I'm looking for ie ap?
[18:55] <Sia--> but you can let user login without typing password
[18:56] <erUSUL> alaing: the first line should read « wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:"Your ESSID here" »
[18:57] <Qwert> How can I have multiple OS in USB for installation purpose?
[18:57] <Maahes_> Sia--, I'm using a persistent live USB install, I want to secure it, i.e., make the ubuntu user have a real password, I tried creating a different user in the admin group with a password, and logging in as them, gdm kicks them back out as they are not in the "nopassword" group (although neither is the ubuntu user, its in the ubuntu group, so I don't understand what's going on.)
[18:57] <alaing> erUSUL:  it says that
[18:57] <erUSUL> alaing: and still « sudo dhclient wlan0 » fails ?
[18:58] <ComradeHaz`> Guys, if there is noone here who can assist with my issue, can you at least suggest some people that might know? I'll repeat my issue:
[18:58] <erUSUL> alaing: are you sure no password is needed or that MAC filtering is not enabled or something?
[18:58] <ComradeHaz`> Hi all. I am having some trouble with running the install as as soon as I select run from live cd or install, or indeed check cd for erros my display goes into standby. That said, I know the system boots as if I select run from cd I eventually get the drums. Tried multiple CD's. Can someone assist, please?
[18:58] <DJones> Qwert: I've not tried it, but this sounds like what you need http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-multiboot-usb/
[18:58] <ComradeHaz`> FWIW, winodws installs and runs fine
[18:59] <Kaspi> can I route packets between ethernet and a wlan?
[18:59] <Sia--> Maahes_, in gdm list just click on the user and you login if you created the user with nopassword required! or use the Guest session
[18:59] <alaing> erUSUL: I'm just running it again
[18:59] <boss_mc> ComradeHaz`: Have you tried md5ing the disk you've burned (you can do it from a windows/other linux machine)?
[18:59] <AbhiJit> if i half installed a update. then how to search back which was they and how to reinstall them?
[19:00] <Maahes_> Sia--, I Don't want a user with no password. I want a user *With* a password, and I want to delete the ubuntu user who has no password. GDM will not let a user with a password log in. I am running off a persistent live usb
[19:00] <ComradeHaz`> boss_mc, I have tried 2 Ubuntu and 2 mythbuntu discs and have run check disk for errors on other machines on both of them
[19:00] <ComradeHaz`> Also, as I said, they clearly work, as the drums are heard.
[19:00] <Sia--> Maahes_, user userdel
[19:00] <Kaspi> ComradeHaz`: you should check the image you have downloaded itself
[19:01] <Sia--> man userdel
[19:01] <ComradeHaz`> Yeah, I have. Also fine.
[19:01] <Kaspi> ComradeHaz`: you can do it by checking it's MD5 sum, search the internet for a how-to
[19:01] <boss_mc> ComradeHaz`: what graphics card?  If you can use the motherboard's one, use that for the install
[19:01] <ComradeHaz`> Yeah, yeah. I do that by default with my download manager.
[19:01] <AbhiJit> no one answering! :(
[19:02] <alaing> erUSUL: yes still the same thing
[19:02] <Maahes_> Sia--, I know how to delete users yes, but you see I tried creating a user, with a password right, in the administrators group, When I tried to login with them via the user startup page, GDM not only wouldn't log me in, it crashed pretty hard. So until I can make a user account with a password log in, I can't delete the ubuntu user
[19:02] <ComradeHaz`> boss_mc, yes, onboard card works but then I get errors later.
[19:02] <boss_mc> what errors?
[19:02] <boss_mc> ComradeHaz`: ^
[19:02] <ComradeHaz`> Stuff crashing with apparently meaningless stack traces
[19:02] <Qwert> DJones: Thanks
[19:02] <elijah> I just installed Kubuntu 10.04 stable and have no audio with Flash (Pandora and YouTube), I do get startup sounds, Flash sound works with Meerkat but that is all. Any ideas?
[19:02] <Sia--> Maahes_, hmm!? the n check the bugs in GDM
[19:03] <ComradeHaz`> I just stuck in a Debian netinstall cd, that's crashed with an error....
[19:03] <boss_mc> ComradeHaz`: this all sounds like you've got hardware issues, broken disk or ram... have you tried memtest?
[19:03] <Maahes_> Sia--, I doubt its a bug, I believe it's a configuration setting
[19:03] <ryen> elijah: funny question, but did you check if your output is actually set up in the settings?
[19:03] <erUSUL> alaing: then i dunno; you can try to assing the ip netmask gateaway by hand
[19:03] <elijah> ryen: No, where do I do that?
[19:03] <ComradeHaz`> boss_mc, yeah, seems like some sort of incompatability between mo-bo and gpu
[19:04] <ryen> elijah: look in the bottom-right hand corner for the speaker icon, goto output, and make sure everything look allright.
[19:04] <boss_mc> ComradeHaz`: checked your BIOS settings to make sre they're set right for the GPU?
[19:05] <ComradeHaz`> Well, the BIOS settings are pretty minimal. Not really any options to set.
[19:05] <alaing> erUSUL: my network is open I just checked as I do have mac filtering and the address is there and I assign it an ip address
[19:05] <boss_mc> ComradeHaz`: so have you tried memtest?
[19:05] <AbhiJit> !register > ashu
[19:05] <alaing> why is it looking on 255.255.255.255 when my subnet is 255.255.255.0
[19:06] <elijah> ryen: You da man! Somehow my PCM channel was all turned down, default install!
[19:06] <AbhiJit> if i half installed a update. then how to search back which was they and how to reinstall them?
[19:06] <alaing> my ssid is hidden if that makes a difference
[19:06] <elijah> ryen: You just saved me an hour or two!
[19:06] <ryen> elijah: Haha, yeah that happened to me when I installed Ubuntu my first time. No problem!
[19:06] <erUSUL> alaing: 255.255.255.255 is broadcast; isn't it ? ( not that networking is my forte )
[19:07] <elijah> ryen: I hope that is fixed when Meerkat stable comes out!
[19:07] <alaing> dont know
[19:07] <ComradeHaz`> boss_mc, running now
[19:07] <erUSUL> alaing: no is not ...
[19:07] <ryen> elijah: Just remember to check that, that always seems to mess a lot of people up.
[19:08] <alaing> can i not just manually set the ip the ip will always be the same and my dhcp server (router) sets it with my mac filtering
[19:08] <boss_mc> ComradeHaz`: it takes ages, the longer you can run it for the better
[19:08] <ComradeHaz`> Yeah, I know.
[19:08] <boss_mc> ComradeHaz`: overnight is best...
[19:08] <elijah> ryen: Yeah, that is a usability issue and should be filed as a bug.
[19:08] <erUSUL> alaing: yes you can 20:03 < erUSUL> alaing: then i dunno; you can try to assing the ip netmask gateaway by hand
[19:08] <ComradeHaz`> Actually.
[19:08] <ComradeHaz`> I don;t need to do this
[19:08] <alaing> erUSUL: how do i do that?
[19:08] <ComradeHaz`> the machine works fine in other OSes
[19:08] <erUSUL> alaing: use "ifconfig" and "route" or "ip"
[19:08] <ComradeHaz`> and the GPU has been working fine in another box.
[19:09] <ComradeHaz`> and this machine runs fine without this GPU in
[19:09] <ComradeHaz`> (under Ubuntu)
[19:09] <alaing> ifconfig route ip?
[19:09] <ComradeHaz`> It is clearly the combo of this GPU and MoBo
[19:09] <erUSUL> alaing: sudo ifconfig wlan0 ip.goes.here.x netmask net.mask.here.x
[19:09] <Qwert> Is it possible to use package usb-creator from other Linux distribution?
[19:10] <alaing> ok let me try that
[19:10] <xangua> Qwert: better try unetbootin
[19:10] <Qwert> (to install Ubuntu eventually)
[19:10] <Qwert> xanga: Yeah.. but is it available in other package manager?
[19:11] <Qwert> xanga: Thanks. Got it
[19:11] <intrader> All, Ubuntu 10.04 on boot has the microphone live in feedback loop with speakers - what could be wrong?
[19:12] <alaing> erUSUL:  i tried sudo ifconfig wlan0 192.168.123.123 255.255.255.0
[19:12] <erUSUL> alaing: for gateaway is « sudo route add default gw ip.of.gw.here wlan0 » (have to chack that out )
[19:12] <alaing> recons invalid argu,ent
[19:13] <chris_osx> anyone with eeepc 1000 here?
[19:13] <erUSUL> alaing: « sudo ifconfig wlan0 192.168.123.123 netmask 255.255.255.0 »
[19:13] <erUSUL> alaing: « sudo ifconfig wlan0 192.168.123.123 netmask 255.255.255.0 up »
[19:13] <AbhiJit> !bot > ashu
[19:15] <erUSUL> !anyone | chris_osx
[19:16] <alaing> so if my router is 192.168.123.254 i would do sudo route add default gw 192.168.123.254 wlan0?
[19:16] <neurolysis> Hi, can anyone think of what a clicking sound when listening to audio means if it's not a buffer underrun?
[19:16] <Qwert> What is Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud?
[19:17] <aaron11> HellO
[19:17] <onaogh> hi aaron11
[19:18] <alaing> if i did ifconfig should bcast be my routers ip?
[19:18] <aaron11> I want to know where my phone is located. I plugged it in the usb port now i want to know where it is. ttyUSB0 and that sorta thing.
[19:18] <SomethingISODD> does anyone know about installing fglrx fglrx-amdcccle when ever i try to i keep getting this error http://pastebin.com/RL7icabB
[19:19] <onaogh> alaing, afaik, no
[19:19] <AbhiJit> if i half installed a update. then how to search back which was they and how to reinstall them?
[19:19] <Katsumi32> Someone67, u have got ati card right ?
[19:19] <onaogh> alaing, your gateway is your router
[19:19] <alaing> how do i test if i can access the net from server edition?
[19:19] <Katsumi32> SomethingISODD, you have got ati card ?
[19:19] <alaing> and bcast?
[19:20] <SomethingISODD> Katsumi32,  ya ati 4350
[19:20] <aaron11> Hehe sorry for being informal
[19:20] <lifc_31> ?
[19:20] <onaogh> alaing, ping your gateway, if ok, ping internet i.e. google
[19:20] <chalcedony> what software do i need to play an mp4?
[19:20] <lifc_31> ubuntu
[19:20] <chalcedony> what software do i need to play an mp4? video?
[19:20] <AbhiJit> chalcedny, vlc
[19:20] <aaron11> chalcedny, I preffer vlc
[19:20] <lifc_31> vlc
[19:20] <xangua> chalcedony: have you already installed restricted-extra
[19:20] <aaron11> AbhiJit, Lol
[19:20] <xangua> restricted-extras*
[19:20] <onaogh> alaing, bcast is the network i.e. 192.168.1.0
[19:20] <elijah> I thought Google Chrome was supposed to include Flash now? Or does that not apply to GNU/Linux version?
[19:20] <AbhiJit> aaron11, ??
[19:20] <chalcedony> xangua, i think so
[19:21] <aaron11> AbhiJit, Same time
[19:21] <AbhiJit> aaron11, ohh ok np
[19:21] <lifc_31>  elijah:supports flash.
[19:21] <xangua> elijah: did you installed chromium or google chrome¿ i preffer the first
[19:21] <lifc_31>  elijah: also chromium supports...
[19:21] <chalcedony> let me try with vlc, mplayer didn't support the video
[19:21] <Katsumi32> SomethingISODD, is your card supported by catalyst?
[19:21] <alaing> nope still not working Destination host unresolverable
[19:21] <AbhiJit> !restricted | chalcedny
[19:21] <xangua> chalcedony: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:21] <Katsumi32> SomethingISODD, did you check AMD website ?
[19:21] <elijah> xangua: Google Chrome
[19:21] <wx9j> my grandson got a download on his win box while on toontown, says it is a pdf but looks like a script of some sort I an unaware of. any admin types like to talke a look at it ?
[19:22] <alaing> destination host unreachable
[19:22] <aaron11> wx9j, Hi
[19:22] <elijah> lifc_31: I am getting plugin not found
[19:22] <wx9j> Hi
[19:22] <chalcedony> xangua, it works! i have vlc :)
[19:22] <aaron11> wx9j, That could be an exe embed pdf
[19:22] <xangua> elijah: ask google what's the problem then
[19:22] <elijah> lifc_31: Hmm, oh wait, this is shockwave
[19:22] <Katsumi32> wx9j, you grandson ? how old are you ?
[19:22] <aaron11> wx9j, What file is it
[19:22] <Horfe> Qui a un channel français a disposition? x)
[19:22] <xangua> !fr > Horfe
[19:22] <wx9j> haha I am 61
[19:22] <SomethingISODD> Katsumi32,  no but this isnt an unboard video card
[19:22] <onaogh> alaing, what u are trying to ping, before you do any testing, make sure your network interfaces are configured propery
[19:22] <elijah> xangua: I just realized I watched a YT video 5 min ago, duh.
[19:22] <wx9j> is that too old for linux ?
[19:22] <Qwert> What is Ubuntu rescue remix?
[19:23] <elijah> Is Shockwave on Ubuntu?
[19:23] <wx9j> it is called asshole.pdf
[19:23] <aaron11> wx9j, Keep this support related
[19:23] <xangua> Qwert: no idea
[19:23] <aaron11> wx9j, Mind your language
[19:23] <Horfe> !fr yo
[19:23] <Horfe> !fr
[19:23] <alaing> erUSUL: ?
[19:23] <aaron11> wx9j, Well please tell me. Whats the file name?
[19:24] <luckyone> hello all - I just upgraded one of my machines from 9.10 to 10.04 and wired eth0 doesn't seem to work anymore
[19:24] <Trian3> Ok, I'm trying to install Cube-Atlantis, and discovered I need the "compiz-fusion-plugins-unofficial" package, but I'm being told it can't be found.  It guess it's on tuxfamily.org?  Do I need to add tuxfamily.org to a list or sites that apt-get checks for packages?  If so, how do I do that?
[19:24] <alaing> onaogh: I'm trying to ping my router
[19:24] <aaron11> Guys dont forget my question that i asked
[19:24] <aaron11> I want to know where my phone is located. I plugged it in the usb port now i want to know where it is. ttyUSB0 and that sorta thing.
[19:24] <alaing> onaogh: I'm trying to ping my router (192.168.123.254
[19:24] <luckyone> ifconfig can see it, but it doesn't seem to get an ip address
[19:24] <erUSUL> alaing: 20:16 < alaing> so if my router is 192.168.123.254 i would do sudo route add default gw 192.168.123.254 wlan0? <<< yes
[19:24] <onaogh> why does GParted telling me, "Failed to mount "volume name" - the enclosing drive for the volume is locked".
[19:24] <wx9j> aaronll you asked the name of the file and that was the name bet you where a hall monitor as well
[19:24] <AbhiJit> aaron11, use wammu to access mobile phone on linux'
[19:24] <Katsumi32> SomethingISODD, i know it isnt onboard graphic check up amd website for the corect driver
[19:24] <aaron11> AbhiJit, Im trying to use minicom
[19:25] <alaing> how do i stop the ping?
[19:25] <onaogh> alaing, Ctrl+C
[19:25] <AbhiJit> aaron11, then look at their documents or wiki
[19:25] <sisterd> password management in lucid lynx: is there a way to get a SINGLE password for everything, one that doesnt have to be 3 or more different kinds of characters?
[19:25] <onaogh> alaing, configure your network adapter properly
[19:25] <SomethingISODD> ok
[19:25] <aaron11> AbhiJit, :-|
[19:25] <AbhiJit> ??
[19:26] <onaogh> alaing, paste your network configs to paste.ubuntu.com
[19:26] <onaogh> !paste
[19:26] <aaron11> AbhiJit, This is linux related
[19:26] <Trian3> Can anyone help with some package management issues?
[19:26] <AbhiJit> aaron11, hmmm
[19:26] <onaogh> alaing, !paste
[19:26] <alaing> configs?
[19:26] <AbhiJit> Trian3, ask
[19:26] <aaron11> AbhiJit, Im talking about my device location
[19:26] <Trian3> AbhiJit: Ok, I'm trying to install Cube-Atlantis, and discovered I need the "compiz-fusion-plugins-unofficial" package, but I'm being told it can't be found.  It guess it's on tuxfamily.org?  Do I need to add tuxfamily.org to a list or sites that apt-get checks for packages?  If so, how do I do that?
[19:26] <aaron11> AbhiJit, like /dev/ttyUSB0
[19:27] <Akshay> Am i on the right channel to get some help on ubutnu servers? or is there another dedicated channel?
[19:27] <onaogh> alaing, use ifconfig <interface> to see the configs of network interface
[19:27] <rbastic> hey all
[19:27] <aaron11> Akshay, Wow your new
[19:27] <onaogh> Akshay, i dont know :P
[19:27] <aaron11> Akshay, Ur on the right channel
[19:27] <Akshay> aaron11, thanks
[19:27] <AbhiJit> aaron11, i dunno
[19:27] <Akshay> I wanna install UEC on Virtual Box
[19:28] <onaogh> Akshay, what problem u have got ?
[19:28] <Akshay> onaogh, ^^
[19:28] <AbhiJit> !ppa | Trian3
[19:28] <aaron11> Akshay, Whats that?
[19:28] <rbastic> is VirtualBox really the best available? i've had problems getting Win XP SP 3 to work on it (awful that i want it on my box, i know, but i need it for testing certain browsers)
[19:28] <Akshay> my problem is that I'm unable to get the node to recognize the cluster
[19:28] <AbhiJit> Akshay, #ubuntu-server for server
[19:28] <rbastic> can't seem to get it to run my ISO file
[19:28] <Trian3> AbhiJit:  Thank-you!
[19:28] <SomethingISODD> Katsumi32,  thanks downloading updated drivers from there website now
[19:28] <Akshay> rbastic, try the new one.. its really good now
[19:28] <aaron11> Akshay, Oh Server related
[19:28] <Niwatori> How do i install ubuntu onto a usb hdd?
[19:28] <aaron11> ok
[19:29] <aaron11> #ubuntu-server
[19:29] <rbastic> Akshay, the new proprietary one or the new -ose?
[19:29] <Akshay> ose
[19:29] <aaron11> I want to know where my phone is located. I plugged it in the usb port now i want to know where it is. ttyUSB0 and that sorta thing.
[19:29] <aaron11> Someone who knows
[19:29] <Akshay> its owned by oracle now unfortunately, but its still open
[19:29] <rbastic> i've got 3.1.6 installed, isn't that the same
[19:29] <erUSUL> aaron11: « dmesg | tail -n25 »
[19:29] <AbhiJit> !usb | Niwatori
[19:29] <lifc_31> what is this error : Sorry, 'bleachbit-bonus' is not available for this type of computer (i386). ?
[19:30] <Akshay> rbastic, I'm on 3.2.x
[19:30] <rbastic> It means there aren't any 32-bit packages available
[19:30] <rbastic> (re: lifc_31
[19:30] <Niwatori> not installing from a usb, installing to a usb AbhiJit
[19:30] <xangua> lifc_31: ask to bleachbit developers
[19:30] <AbhiJit> lifc_31, you trying to install 64 bit versino on 32 bit operating system
[19:30] <lifc_31> rbastic:  sorry ?
[19:30] <rbastic> Akshay, where did you download/install it from
[19:30] <rbastic> lifc_31, listen to AbhiJit, he's correct
[19:31] <alaing> onaogh: wha tdetails do you need from my ifconfig wlan0? inet 192.168.123.123 bcast 192.168.123.255 mask 255.255.255.0
[19:31] <elijah> rbastic: vmWARE IS GOOD TO BUT OBVIOUSLY CLOSED
[19:31] <AbhiJit> Niwatori, use unetbotin
[19:31] <onaogh> aaron11, you can check it from logs, $tail -f /var/log/syslog, then plug ur device
[19:31] <lifc_31> xangua: they say to ask ubuntu ?
[19:31] <root_> sorry
[19:31] <Akshay> rbastic, virtualbox.org
[19:31] <rbastic> elijah, vmware is industry standard, closed source is kind of irrelevant... granted it sucks that they charge $4k for cert
[19:31] <alaing> I'm trying to setup my wifi with the help of erUSUL
[19:31] <AbhiJit> Niwatori, also you can do the regular installation process and at the time os partition select pen drive as installatino target
[19:31] <rbastic> but yeah, whatever works is all i care about. spose i could try kvm ;-)
[19:31] <lifc_31> AbhiJit: i have 32 bit system. i am getting this error from "software center". how can i solve it ?
[19:31] <alaing> on server edition
[19:31] <erUSUL> alaing: any progress ?
[19:31] <elijah> rbastic: Oh wait, don't they have an open source version for *nix?
[19:31] <AbhiJit> lifc_31, whats the name of the software?
[19:31] <Akshay> Yeah Vmware is awesome.. but its not free :(
[19:31] <rbastic> lifc_31, You will need to attempt to compile from source.
[19:31] <lifc_31> rbastic: i have 32 bit system. i am getting this error from "software center". how can i solve it ?
[19:31] <alaing> i ran that command
[19:31] <root_> ok
[19:31] <onaogh> alaing, use paste.ubuntu.com to paste text, i want you to copy the output of your network interface on your server that you want to connect to internet
[19:31] <rbastic> lifc_31, what package is it you are trying to install
[19:32] <root_> whoa! its flooding
[19:32] <erUSUL> alaing: can you ping he gateaway?
[19:32] <alaing> tried to ping my router another nothing destination host unreachable
[19:32] <lifc_31>  AbhiJit: bleachbit ( but the extara package)
[19:32] <root_> aladilas, Whats your problem
[19:32] <Niwatori> AbhiJit, i cant install it because i cant make a cd, im running a emulated iso
[19:32] <lifc_31> rbastic:  why from source ? i have to install from software center.
[19:32] <AbhiJit> Niwatori, then you need unetbootin
[19:32] <alaing> onaogh: sorry i'm not good with the commandline and my machien is not connected to the net
[19:32] <AbhiJit> lifc_31, dunno it should install actually
[19:32] <lifc_31>  rbastic: 'bleachbit-bonus'
[19:32] <Niwatori> AbhiJit, where would i find that?
[19:33] <root_> I must ACK this is a very busy channel
[19:33] <rbastic> you don't *have* to install from software center.
[19:33] <AbhiJit> Niwatori, sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[19:33] <alaing> onaogh: I'm using another machine to connect here
[19:33] <onaogh> alaing, you are connecting your server to internet over wireless ???
[19:33] <AbhiJit> root_, yah! its ubuntu channel!
[19:33] <rbastic> lifc_31, it would be IDEAL if you could install from Software Center, but that is not necessarily the case
[19:33] <lifc_31> AbhiJit: it should. it is impoosible. :( but when i try to install form a deb packege it works.
[19:33] <Niwatori> AbhiJit, im runnning windows, not linux
[19:33] <lifc_31> AbhiJit:  but i am not sure if it si stable :(
[19:33] <root_> AbhiJit, Im aaron11
[19:33] <AbhiJit> lifc_31, hmm
[19:33] <alaing> onaogh: yes
[19:33] <alaing> i want to
[19:33] <lifc_31> AbhiJit:  what is the reason i want to install from software center
[19:33] <AbhiJit> Niwatori, then get it from their web site
[19:33] <functor> I keep getting drm:edid_is_valid errors
[19:33] <AbhiJit> root_, ohhh
[19:33] <functor> major version is 0 instead of 1
[19:34] <AbhiJit> lifc_31, ?? you are asking me ?
[19:34] <functor> something about "SAMSUNG LCD"
[19:34] <Niwatori> AbhiJit, thats what im asking, where is it?
[19:34] <onaogh> alaing, ok, what is your gateway IP ?
[19:34] <root_> Anyone need help?
[19:34] <AbhiJit> Niwatori, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[19:34] <AbhiJit> root_, i do!
[19:34] <functor> yes, me
[19:34] <alaing> 192.168.123.254 (wifi router)
[19:34] <Niwatori> AbhiJit thank you
[19:34] <AbhiJit> Niwatori, welcome!
[19:34] <root_> AbhiJit, You look as smart as me
[19:34] <rbastic> Hrm. Ubuntu Software Center doesn't appear to properly respect dkpg lock
[19:35] <AbhiJit> root_, when it comes to unsolvable problems - no! I am not smart! :P
[19:35] <rbastic> If you run Synaptic first and then attempt to run Ubuntu Software Center at the same time, it just appears to hang while installing. I assume this is because it isn't properly respecting the package lock. Can anyone confirm?
[19:35] <A71KR117> Should I upgrade to Maverick?
[19:35] <lifc_31>  AbhiJit: i am asking you what is the problem. :(
[19:35] <lifc_31>  AbhiJit: i dont know what to do :(
[19:35] <alaing> erUSUL: I'mm not getting anythign back from the router
[19:35] <rbastic> lifc_31, relax
[19:35] <AbhiJit> lifc_31, i also dont know whats the problem!
[19:35] <rbastic> lifc_31, i will help you if you will calm down ;)
[19:35] <lifc_31> rbastic:  sorry i am relax :)
[19:35] <rbastic> hehe
[19:35] <rbastic> okay so
[19:35]  * AbhiJit is relaxed! 
[19:35] <lifc_31> AbhiJit: no problem... someone will solve :)
[19:35] <lifc_31> AbhiJit: thank you anyway :)
[19:35] <AbhiJit> lifc_31, ok
[19:35] <mernilio> Greeting and salutations fellow crabfishermen from the harsh sea of bearing sea!
[19:35] <rbastic> lifc_31, click Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[19:35] <luckyone> after a sudo do-release-upgrade -d to 10.04, networking on eth0 no longer works...
[19:36] <AbhiJit> lifc_31, np
[19:36] <root_> Ok I want to know if theres a page for linux security h0l3s
[19:36] <lifc_31>  rbastic: yes?
[19:36] <Niwatori> AbhiJit, working like a charm so far, thanks for the help
[19:36] <ANJELL> ay
[19:36] <rbastic> lifc_31, when the black screen pops up , type 'uname -a' (and press enter), copy paste the line into chat that shows up
[19:36] <Flannel> A71KR117: Maverick is still beta software.  So probably not.
[19:36] <AbhiJit> Niwatori, welcome!
[19:36] <rbastic> lifc_31, this command will tell me what version of the Linux kernel and what type of CPU you have
[19:36] <alaing> onaogh: 192.168.123.254
[19:37] <sisterd> f
[19:37] <luckyone> ifconifg sees the interface, it gets an IPV6 address, but IPV4 is 0.0.0.0
[19:37] <A71KR117> Flannel, is it stable enough for daily usage?
[19:37] <lifc_31> rbastic:  Linux fabelli-desktop 2.6.32-24-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 20 14:24:04 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:37] <Flannel> A71KR117: #ubuntu+1 would be the place to ask that.
[19:37] <luckyone> A71KR117: I am running it on my netbook right now
[19:37] <AbhiJit> hello mernilio
[19:37] <rbastic> lifc_31, Okay. So you're running a 64-bit processor. That was concern.
[19:37] <rbastic> lifc_31, Now, when you try to install bleachbit, it whines with that error message saying you don't have the right kind of computer?
[19:37] <lifc_31>  rbastic: yes 64 bit cpu but 32 bit os.
[19:37] <rbastic> lifc_31, 64-bit cpu but 32-bit OS is *probably* your issue.
[19:38] <A71KR117> Flannel, thanks for your help. Goin' to #ubuntu+1 now.
[19:38] <root_> Ok does anyone know the comand that tells me where my usb phone is located? Like ttyUSB0 is my modem so whats my phone (modem not connected atm)
[19:38] <rbastic> lifc_31, how come you are not running Ubuntu 64-bit on a 64-bit CPU?
[19:38] <AbhiJit> thats why i was no going to suggest him! install 64 bit os lifc_31
[19:38] <luckyone> root_: lsusb
[19:38] <AbhiJit> !64 | lifc_31
[19:38] <h1kar1> Is there anyone that can give me a hand i am having trouble getting a recurrently cron job working ubuntu 10.4
[19:38] <rbastic> lifc_31, i am running 64-bit 10.04 on Linux 2.6.32-24-generic with x86_64 and bleachbit installs fine.
[19:38] <lifc_31> rbastic:  it is possible to install an 32 bit os, to 64 bit cpu. like me :)
[19:38] <root_> luckyone, That just gives vendor and product id
[19:39] <rbastic> lifc_31, regardless that is what is causing your problem. i don't know any easy way to fix it other than to install the correct version of ubuntu onto your machine.
[19:39] <lifc_31> rbastic:  i have no problem on my any but any software. just this eroro i am getting..
[19:39] <studentz> Hi there I install Flash plug-in square 64 bits. Opera works fine but in Chromium I only have audio. Any idea?
[19:39] <h1kar1> one time cron job works fine but recurring does not
[19:39] <rbastic> studentz, square is a preview release
[19:39] <kian_> How I can change permission on a flash memory in linux
[19:39] <rbastic> studentz, do you need square for a reason, was the previous stable release from Adobe not working for you
[19:39] <root_> noone knows??
[19:40] <lifc_31> rbastic: but this error which i am getting is something impossible. i mean this error can not be getting from a 32 bit os :(
[19:40] <thedude42> root: lsusb is where to start
[19:40] <lifc_31> rbastic: am i right ?
[19:40] <AbhiJit> !permissions | kian_
[19:40] <root_> luis_lopez, Hey! Hows tony
[19:40] <thedude42> root_: lsusb is where to start
[19:40] <mernilio> where is the offtopic ubuntu channel?
[19:40] <AbhiJit> !ot | mernilio
[19:40] <h1kar1> has anyone run into this issue before?
[19:40] <rbastic> lifc_31, You have a 32-bit OS but a 64-bit processor. I'm not an expert but I only have seen that error you're getting with Ubuntu Software Center when trying to install a package that is only available for one type of CPU.
[19:40] <elijah> I can't get my laptop mic to pickup sound, any ideas? I tried adding the mic boost mixer column to my mixer (Kubuntu), but they are locked, implying their is no mic.
[19:41] <elijah> My webcam and speakers work great
[19:41] <rbastic> elijah, What laptop model is it
[19:41] <root_> thedude42, ACK: other than lsusb
[19:41] <studentz> rbastic No I was using the wrapper from 32 bit - which worked perfectly , but I remove to install square
[19:41] <root_> thedude42, that doesnt tell me where its located
[19:41] <alaing> how do i scan for wifi network from commandline?
[19:41] <luckyone> iwlist
[19:41] <rbastic> studentz, regardless 'square' is a preview release, i would google around and try solutions, if you can not get it working at all then report the bugs to Adobe.
[19:41] <luckyone> alaing: iwlist
[19:41] <thedude42> root_: you need to usb ID's first, that will help you identify the other device nodes that relate to that USB hardware device
[19:41] <sisterd> ubuntu 10.04 password help needed. I want to set my login password and my root password andany other password required by the system (not email etc.) to the same thing. login keyring and password apps in system do not do this. Anyone have any suggestions?
[19:41] <h1kar1> cron help please...
[19:41] <rbastic> studentz, try to downgrade to the previous stable release of adobe flash player also (it comes in ubuntu-restricted-extras package, google if unfamiliar)
[19:42] <rbastic> i have had no problems with the previous stable from ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:42] <root_> thedude42, Ok
[19:42] <rbastic> on 64-bit machines at least
[19:42] <xbonesx> what repositories am i to add to synaptic package manager so that i have access to all the apps that i can?
[19:42] <lifc_31> rbastic: but i have installed many applications properly from software center. just on this package i am getting this error.
[19:42] <elijah> rbastic: HP Pavillion DV 6775us
[19:42] <thedude42> root_: on the contrary, lsusb tells you EXACTLY where the device is located, what you're looking for are other device nodes that ilink to that device
[19:42] <xbonesx> i remember someone saying something about the multiverse?
[19:42] <rbastic> lifc_31, like i said, you're doing something wrong. install the 64-bit OS and i bet you will be fine.
[19:42] <AbhiJit> xbonesx, universe
[19:42] <rbastic> xbonesx, Synaptic, Preferences->Repositories, Other Repositories, enable everything via checkboxes
[19:42] <Zaehlas> Greetings all.  Looking for 64 bit server help in setting up connection sharing, dhcp, firestarter.  I fcan get it up and running, but NOT keep it running through a reboot..  and it's frustrating.
[19:43] <AbhiJit> !cron | h1kar1
[19:43] <sisterd> ubuntu 10.04 youtube-dl help: how do I set what the filename should be, so my filenames arent gobbledygook from youtube?
[19:43] <root_> thedude42, the "serial device"
[19:43] <alaing> lwlist returns no results
[19:43] <studentz> rbastic why the difference btw Opera and Chromium About:plugins show they are using the same flashplayer.so version ?
[19:43] <root_> thedude42, I want to write AT commands to it
[19:43] <lifc_31>  rbastic: i can not install 64 bit os. :(
[19:43] <rbastic> studentz, probably because of a bug in Chromium. How does Firefox work?
[19:43] <h1kar1> yes my problem is that recurring tasks do not owkr but oen time works fine
[19:43] <rbastic> lifc_31, how come
[19:43] <lifc_31>  rbastic:anyway thank your interest...
[19:43] <thedude42> root_ if you expect a device node in /dev to be created when you plug in the device and it's not, then likely you lack a udev rule for your device
[19:43] <Aemaeth> why aren't blueman packages installed in ubuntu by default?
[19:43] <root_> thedude42, For that im using Minicom
[19:43] <h1kar1> cant figure out why one works and not the other
[19:43] <sisterd> ubuntu 10.04 printing help: how do I create a uri for my hp printer such that my networked mac can print to it?
[19:44] <AbhiJit> Aemaeth, ask in #ubuntu-devel
[19:44] <studentz> rbastic Firefox has the same problem :(
[19:44] <rbastic> studentz, then it is a bug in the latest version of the Flash plugin for your architecture. Report all details and other things to Adobe directly, as I'm assuming you must've installed this from them.
[19:44] <Aemaeth> AbhiJit, kk, thanks, i'll complain there ^_^
[19:44] <xbonesx> rbastic: I only have two in the "Other Software" tab, is that right?
[19:44] <rbastic> elijah, have you tried enabling ALSAMixer and messing with the mod probe configuration
[19:44] <Qwert> How to encrypt my /home directory?
[19:44] <rbastic> brb, sorry all
[19:44] <thedude42> root_: it sounds like what you want to do requires you to do a bit more research fist because it's not going to happen automatically without explicit device support
[19:44] <root_> thedude42, When i ls /dev i get tty,tty1,tty2 etc and many many more yellow stuff
[19:44] <AbhiJit> Aemaeth, be sure to read that channel's topic
[19:45] <elijah> rbastic: No, I don't even know what they are.
[19:45] <Aemaeth> k
[19:45] <rxd> usb stick installation is a read-only system, anyone has ever done a read-only system on the hard drive?
[19:45] <AbhiJit> Qwert, use truecrypt
[19:45] <Aemaeth> i'm often sarcastic about how i'm going to act
[19:45] <thedude42> root_ yes the /dev directory is where the device nodes are kept
[19:45] <alaing_> i'm back
[19:45] <studentz> rabstic Yes I tried different option. Download from adobe, using sevenmachine ppa
[19:45] <Aemaeth> AbhiJit, how do you truecrypt the /home/ ?
[19:45] <root_> thedude42, What are the chances of one of them being my phone
[19:46] <AbhiJit> Aemaeth, never done it! but i know that truecrypt can be used for tha purpose!
[19:46] <thedude42> root_ probably zero
[19:46] <alaing_> would it maybe be easier to bridge a connection between my other machien the this using a wire. I just wantot install gnome desktop on my server
[19:46] <root_> thedude42, :(
[19:46] <Aemaeth> kk, i guess something to look into, i know you could encrypt an entire mini-rar-like thing
[19:46] <root_> thedude42, Anything i can do?
[19:46] <Zaehlas> Is there a topic for more detailed technical help with my server configs?  or just hold in here until someone has the time?
[19:46] <xbonesx> rbastic: I only have two in the "Other Software" tab, is that right?
[19:46] <thedude42> root_ your best bet is to start searching for articles and howtos related to linux and your phone
[19:46] <root_> I want to minicom it
[19:47]  * alaing_ is getting really annoyed with server edition
[19:47] <root_> :-/
[19:47] <h1kar1> yha i am stumped on this cron bug..
[19:47] <studentz> rbastic; funny with the wrapper 32 chromium and firefox worked but opera did not
[19:47] <Niwatori> AbhiJit, it installed the installer, i want it to make a bootable OS
[19:47] <AbhiJit> Niwatori, it is bootable os only
[19:47] <thedude42> root_ at this point you don't even know if the phone provides an accessable serial interface for you to communicate without special hardware
[19:47] <rbastic> studentz, like i said -- is there a specific reason why the latest version of Adobe is no good for you?
[19:48] <rbastic> studentz, square is a *preview* release
[19:48] <h1kar1> has any one had issues with recurring cron jobs in unbuntu 10.4?
[19:48]  * alaing is getting really annoyed with server edition
[19:48] <Niwatori> AbhiJit, when i used UNetbootin it just put the install files on the usb so i can install ubuntu, it didnt install the os onto the usb
[19:49] <xangua> !persistent | Niwatori
[19:49] <xangua> Mmmmm
[19:49] <rbastic> For the record, you all should make sure that your SATA mode in the BIOS is set to Compatibility. I had serious problems with Ubuntu on 64-bit architecture until I changed that setting. Not sure if it still matters.... Can anyone confirm?
[19:49] <xangua> !usb | read the persistent part Niwatori
[19:49] <alaing> erUSUL: any ideas?
[19:49] <studentz> rbastic thanks, just a comment if somebody else have the same issue.
[19:49] <alaing> :(
[19:49] <Cable|Dance> haha awsome bot
[19:49] <frank63> Hi, I have a problem with graphics effects: Iǘe tried with both nvidia-current (195) as well as with nvidia 256 driver: 3d acceleration seems on, but can enable graphic effects
[19:49] <erUSUL> alaing: "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up"
[19:50] <rbastic> frank63, how did you uninstall the previous driver, do you see a green nvidia logo at any point during bootup etc
[19:50] <frank63> no, i dont
[19:50] <Zaehlas> rbastic: which issues?  I am running 64 bit server with SATA raid, mirrored, and although made a few errors so had to reinstall a few times, my system seems stable for the moment..  would it be obvious, or just corruption on SATA over time, or slow access?
[19:50] <mauro> ciao
[19:50] <avi_> hello all! So I download quite a lot of files to ~/Downloads, many of which should go directly to certain locations upon arrival, which I end up doing manually. I was wondering, is there any way to "watch" that folder for new files, and then move them based on various rules to various locations? I'm comfortable writing in Python and Bash, but I don't know if there's any capacity for the OS to do what I'm looking to do. Links are appreciate
[19:50] <avi_> d! Thanks in advance!
[19:50] <oasik> I am trying to install new intel graphics drivers from source
[19:51] <oasik> I do not know where /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[19:51] <alaing> erUSUL: done
[19:51] <rbastic> Zaehlas, it was pretty obvious for me, i ran desktop 10.04 LTS and my login screen would stop displaying, just the regular GUI boot process would occur but never any login screen after 3 days of use
[19:51] <oasik> it does not exists but it works how
[19:51] <Katsumi32> oasik, the one in hardware drivers doesnt work ?
[19:51] <erUSUL> alaing: any change? can you ping router?
[19:51] <rbastic> Zaehlas, also I was running via WUBI at first, once I started running natively after wiping Vista off completely, PLUS changing SATA BIOS settings, i had no issues.
[19:51] <alaing> no still say destination host unreachable
[19:51] <Zaehlas> rbastic: ew.  next reboot I'll check settings,.  I'm still on day 1 of install
[19:52] <alaing> my wifi worked without any issues when i had 10.04 desktop edition
[19:52] <rbastic> Zaehlas, yes it took me 2 failed WUBI installs before I decided to risk it, change SATA BIOS, wipe Vista, and format+ install Ubuntu *only* on the machine.
[19:52] <drjo> anyone with git skills here, im stuck
[19:52] <rbastic> Anyone: How do I install a .deb package? I want to install VirtualBox on Ubuntu
[19:52] <avi_> rbastic, Double click it.
[19:52] <erUSUL> rbastic: double click on it
[19:52] <drjo> rbastic: aptitude install virtualbox-ose
[19:52] <oasik> Katsumi32: actually it works, but some rendering errors (buffer error) with a specific 3D app, webots
[19:52] <alaing> drjo ask on #jqueyr i know a few people on there use git
[19:52] <Aemaeth> rbastic, double click, click "Install"
[19:52] <A71KR117> rbastic, double click on it.
[19:52] <alaing> #jquery
[19:52] <rbastic> drjo, No, the packaged virtualbox-ose is over .1.0 revisions old
[19:53] <rbastic> drjo, I have been having problems with the packaged virtualbox-ose running a Win XP SP 3 ISO
[19:53] <Aemaeth> i like that we know this
[19:53] <drjo> rbastic: gdebi then
[19:53] <erUSUL> drjo: /join #git
[19:53] <A71KR117> drjo, what do you need help with?
[19:53] <rbastic> nodnod, I am going to try the latest virtualbox from the site for AMD64 to see if that helps
[19:53] <litropy> Hi, peeps - is there a command out there that usually frees up the cursor? Sometimes upon bootup, I have keys, but no touchpad.
[19:53] <Katsumi32> rbastic, why?
[19:53] <frank63> i used sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia* to remove prev drivers (I followed instruction on ubuntu help pages)
[19:53] <luckyone> !networking
[19:54] <Katsumi32> rbastic, sorry not you
[19:54] <drjo> i have a setup where i want to of my machines synced, one is at school and one at home, i pulled the school repo from home, made some changes and pushed it back, but it dosent appear in the repo on school
[19:54] <rbastic> Katsumi32, haha k
[19:54] <suprengr> Anyone tried CLIcompanion... as in: is it suitable/safe for a terminal command 'learner'? First appearance looks ok but not heard of it before.
[19:54] <Katsumi32> how to pause xchat to many questions here :)
[19:54] <rbastic> frank63, what nvidia drivers did you install? I am running nvidia-current (which supported my GeForce 9800m GS)
[19:54] <luckyone> can anyone point me at a network troubleshooting wiki?
[19:54] <Aemaeth> tab button helps me learn cli
[19:54] <dadush777> Hello, I'm using PyLOTRO and i'm having the *** Finished *** crash... anyone knows what can I do ?
[19:54] <A71KR117> suprengr; clicompanion is really useful. install it!
[19:54] <drjo> A71KR117: forgot to add your name, my post is above
[19:55] <rbastic> frank63, but i also blacklisted 'nouveau' via the CLI *then rebooted* before installing the nvidia stuff.
[19:55] <suprengr> A71KR117: cheers & thanks.
[19:55] <Katsumi32> luckyone, what the problem with networking ?
[19:55] <litropy> Furthermore, Unity seems to like to crash randomly. What log should I start with?
[19:55] <Zaehlas> Anyone: Anyway...  trying to setup my server using Firestarter to handle dhcp, 2 network cards, internal and external network.  Muy problem is that after a reboot, it nakes a few times of /etc/init.d/networking restart or rebuild the dhcpd settings using apt.  I can't hold a good config through a reboot, and don't know why.  except firestarter I've uninstalled all GUI networking, and am just using /etc/network/interfaces, and files genera
[19:55] <Zaehlas> ted by dhcpd and firestarter
[19:55] <frank63> I've also remove and blacklisted nouveaut
[19:55] <ComradeHaz`> boss_mc, Katsumi32 thought you might be interested to know debian graphical install works for me but their normal install fails with an error. Does the shed any light on what might be wrong?
[19:55] <myth41> My server only have a serial port and a bios that does not support serial output. Is there still a way to install ubuntu server? An alternate cd or something?
[19:56] <A71KR117> drjo; sorry i can't help you with git. maybe the git channel?
[19:56] <luckyone> Katsumi32: I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 with a sudo do-release-upgrade -d and after everything finished, eth0 no longer gets an IP address
[19:56] <frank63> but not sure about the sequence: at a given moment xorg wasn starting anymore
[19:56] <ComradeHaz`> biab
[19:56] <frank63> so I reinstalled xorg and then nvidia-current again
[19:56] <alaing> grrr
[19:56] <myth41> I mean, the cd is autobooted and I don't really need to access the bios, and I can't se why the ubuntu server install shuldent be able to use the serial
[19:56] <glaucous> Is there a way to limit the bandwidth used by specific program? I need to limit the upload rate on VirtualBox.
[19:56] <luckyone> frank63: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-*
[19:56] <rbastic> frank63, you should uninstall everything, blacklist whatever current graphics driver you were using, reboot again, THEN install nvidia-current, THEN reboot again. *I think* anyway. Pretty sure that's what worked for me
[19:57] <luckyone> frank63: then sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[19:57] <dadush777> I'm desperate for help :( I'm running PyLOTRO , enter my Login details, connecting and then the Game Crashes and shows only ***Finished*** ... I really don't know what to do :(
[19:57] <rbastic> Also, maybe nvidia-current is no good for you. Maybe you need the drivers direct from nvidia.com
[19:57] <Katsumi32> luckyone, you know that eth0 is ethernet and eth1 wifi? if you want type dmesg and paste it http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:57] <Ichat> glaucous: -  look for  QoS
[19:57] <rbastic> What model machine/model graphics card do you support? If you look on nvidia.com there is a Linux section and they detail every model the drivers support. Also, Ubuntu does not package the absolute latest drivers from Nvidia.
[19:57] <luckyone> Katsumi32: yeah, I am just trying to get ethernet working
[19:57] <frank63> I 'm currently running the drivers from nvidia (256-53)
[19:58] <xbonesx> how do i setup compiz to enable mouse scroll to switch workplaces?
[19:58] <frank63> graphics card is the 8600GT
[19:58] <shcherbak>  how many brute-force attack on ssh you can have in 24 hours?
[19:58] <Katsumi32> luckyone, sorry you dont have any internet in ubuntu at the moment right ?
[19:58] <frank63> it was working fine 3 or 4 month ago, with compiz etc
[19:58] <xbonesx> frank63: i have that same card
[19:58] <luckyone> Katsumi32: not on the machine in question, correct
[19:58] <rahmu> hey everyone. I have just installed Ubuntu (Lucid) and sound is not working. I have installed it on an HP laptop. Any help? Thx.
[19:58] <Ichat> shcherbak:  - as many as your line (bandwidth)  and  your  firewall ... permits it
[19:58] <xbonesx> frank63: what laptop do you have?
[19:58] <rbastic> xbonesx, maybe you can help him -- I use nvidia-current and have no problems with a newer card
[19:58] <frank63> itś a desktop
[19:58] <shcherbak> haha
[19:58] <jacobw> hi
[19:59] <allu2> Hello, i have a rather odd problem, i can't get gwibber authorized with facebook because after i press authenticate there reads success and then window suddenly goes endlessly down under my screen preventing me to press apply or add (info: fresh install of ubuntu 10.04(with omnibook module) (HP Omnibook XE-GF)
[19:59] <luckyone> Katsumi32: the same upgrade worked great on the exact same type of machine (Acer Revo 1600) in the kitchen
[19:59] <dadush777> I'm desperate for help :( I'm running PyLOTRO , enter my Login details, connecting and then the Game Crashes and shows only ***Finished*** ... I really don't know what to do :(
[19:59] <xbonesx> allu2: same here
[19:59] <allu2> xbonesx, you got omnibook too?
[19:59] <A71KR117> Hi everyone. I added the canonical de ppa and installed unity. When I start it all I see is a white screen. Any help?
[19:59] <frank63> it seems that the problem is with jokey
[19:59] <allu2> xbonesx, i got used to that all my pb are because of my hw :P
[19:59] <Ichat> shcherbak:  -  im not kidding,  - if you feel that someone is trying to bruteforce you  set sshd  to  drop connections from that given ip after  say  5 failed attemts
[19:59] <frank63> because if I run sudo jockey-text --list
[20:00] <jackc> halloe
[20:00] <luckyone> Katsumi32: what should I be looking for in dmesg? Network tools can see eth0
[20:00] <frank63> I get: nvidia_current - nvidia_current (Proprietary, Enabled, Not in use)
[20:00] <Katsumi32> luckyone, if you want boot up ubuntu type in terminal dmesg and lsusb and lspci copy everything to usb or cd boot up windows connect to internet than paste it to ubuntu paste bin and post that link here im guessing u lost wifi and ethernet firmware
[20:00] <brontoeee> is there something i can use to convert coreldraw to eps ?
[20:00] <xbonesx> frank63: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[20:00] <Katsumi32> dmesg will show you all errrors and missing firmwares luckyone
[20:00] <jackc> JoliCloud rox!
[20:00] <frank63> but nvidia X server settings as well as 3d games  seems fine
[20:00] <luckyone> Katsumi32: that box doesn't have windows on it
[20:00] <SomethingISodd> Hello is there anyway to find out what video drivers are installed?
[20:01] <SomethingISodd> i just want to make sure that the new drivers are actually being used
[20:01] <frank63> I'm running ubuntu 10.0
[20:01] <frank63> 10.04
[20:01] <shcherbak> Ichat: just got annoyed and insalled fail2ban (i am by nature lazy), but was more curious y so many orginate from china.
[20:01] <allu2> is there any fix for gwibber or should i try download/(compile)/install it from source
[20:01] <Katsumi32> luckyone, u have to boot up ubuntu than dmesg and lspci and lsusb and pste it to usb than boot whereever u have got internet
[20:01] <frank63> quite likely it stopped working when I upgraded from the beta to the release version, but not sure
[20:01] <xbonesx> frank63: you probably need to run the apt-get to have the current nvidia driver redownloaded and installed
[20:02] <luckyone> lsusb won't show anything
[20:02] <frank63> Iǘe tried reinstalling it several times
[20:02] <xbonesx> frank63: one sec ill get the line for you
[20:02] <Katsumi32> luckyone, it should lsusb will tell you everything u need to know about your usb ports
[20:02] <Ichat> shcherbak:  -  not to be discriminating but  in poorer countries theres is more warez.  and thus more virusses (botnets).  - thus more  hack- attemts from there..   - i guess
[20:03] <Katsumi32> Ichat, i agree last time one guy from england broke in to FBI database did you hear about it ?
[20:03] <shcherbak> Ichat: ..now i am watching my log and feel lonely
[20:03] <Ichat> lol yah i was in the UK at that time :$
[20:04] <Katsumi32> ichat the english are really bad at hacking viruses etc
[20:04] <talu56> hello
[20:04] <Ichat> no just that
[20:04] <Ichat>  kid was\
[20:04] <Katsumi32> ichat now back to topic
[20:04] <Katsumi32> ubuntu
[20:04] <frank63> is there someway to get some more details from jockey, to understand why the driver isn in use?
[20:04] <xbonesx> frank63: how are you trying to install the driver for nvidia?
[20:05] <Aemaeth> i hear the chinese will hack anything
[20:05] <haywardgb> they'll eat anything as well.. go figure!
[20:05] <xbonesx> frank63: are you using hardware drivers GUI to get it or synaptic or apt-get?
[20:05] <Katsumi32> Aemaeth, #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:05] <Aemaeth> mikey?
[20:05] <rxd> should be a restricted driver
[20:05] <Ichat> Aemaeth:  -  that topic should be talked about in ubuntu-offtopic
[20:06] <oasik> I cannot see grub menu
[20:06] <frank63> Iǘe actually installed them (download of NVIDIA-Linux-x86-256.53.run from nvidia direclty), but no difference from the one that I can get from apt-get
[20:06] <oasik> the first item in grub.cfg is loaded
[20:07] <xbonesx> frank63: ?
[20:07] <Ichat> frank63:  -  why didn't you just use  sudo apt-get  install  nvidia-current
[20:07] <xbonesx> how do i setup compiz to enable mouse scroll to switch workplaces?
[20:07] <Katsumi32> xbonesx, ask on #compiz
[20:08] <haywardgb> through compiz config settings tool..
[20:08] <xbonesx> Katsumi32: ok ty
[20:08] <haywardgb> it's under system -> preferences
[20:09] <shcherbak> haha, but it bothers me, y in terminal (no x) only rsa_id will make u log, if to use different name I can  still use xterm or terminal, but vt do not conect (ssh), what to configure?
[20:09] <drjo>  #git did the job :)
[20:09] <step21> Hi, any idea how to make the whole filesystem of a hfsplus partition available on ubuntu? Somehow ubuntu blocks access to the important parts of the home dir, uid/gid/umask don't seem to work
[20:09] <Aemaeth> xbonesx, do you have cube on?
[20:10] <drjo> my network manager applet is cut in half since last update o_O
[20:10] <frank63> I tried that first - as well as the other instuctions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#NVIDIA%20driver%20activated%20but%20not%20currently%20in%20use%20in%20ubuntu%2010.04
[20:10] <fuorviatos> hello
[20:10] <haywardgb> drjo: you mean the icon? mine does that too.. weird!
[20:11] <frank63> but did't worked so then Iǘe tried directly nvidia driver
[20:11] <xbonesx> Aemaeth: idk one sec
[20:11] <fuorviatos> If I chroot, when I'm not able to use internet connection?
[20:11] <mitos> login password
[20:11] <drjo> haywardgb: yeah it happened after reboot from updating the kernel today
[20:11] <Aemaeth> xbonesx, cause if you didn't find it yet, i know at least one way to get what you want, but i use cube, i can check for what you have activated if you tell me which plugin you're working with
[20:12] <mitos> info
[20:12] <myth41> is it possible to install ubuntu server over console?
[20:12] <frank63> moreover now jockey keeps saying nvidia-current and not nvidia 256-53 or something like that
[20:12] <haywardgb> drjo: it did the same for me, but i get around it by starting Rythmbox and leaving it open.. lol.. i guess it'll fix itself in a later release :)
[20:12] <xbonesx> Aemaeth: wall
[20:13] <xbonesx> and i looked in the viewpoint switcher and its keybinded to button 2
[20:13] <Aemaeth> kk, xbonesx you just probably need to change the key in bindings
[20:13] <Aemaeth> xbonesx, test the buttons, sometimes 3 or 4
[20:14] <luckyone> Katsumi32: so strange - working now
[20:14] <Aemaeth> xbonesx, since just middle mouse wheel does things in other programs, you might need to set it for the top of the screen, or use ctrl/alts
[20:15] <luckyone> Katsumi32: I ran dhclient3, didn't get an address, pluged the cord into my netbook to make sure it still had a link that worked and it wasn't my switch, then I plugged it back in and connected instantly
[20:15] <mitos> opencmd dir
[20:15] <Katsumi32> luckyone, very good :) be happy
[20:15] <AbhiJit> ashu, ping
[20:15] <Aemaeth> xbonesx, i have mine set so when i left click on top of screen i move around in my cube, click bottom of screen and it rotates through my open windows
[20:16] <Aemaeth> add in screenlets and it's way better than mac
[20:16] <myth41> .
[20:16] <Katsumi32> myth41, any questions ?
[20:16] <onaogh> alaing, u fixed it ?
[20:17] <myth41> Katsumi32, yes, can I install ubuntu-server over console/serial terminal?
[20:17] <haywardgb> has anyone else noticed that the wifi manager icon in the taskbar gets cut in half since the recent updates this weeks?
[20:17] <Jordan_U> oasik: Hold shift during boot.
[20:17] <xbonesx> Aemaeth: i have to update firefox, then i will show you a screenshot
[20:17] <lo127> .
[20:17] <Aemaeth> kk
[20:18] <frank63> xbonesx: probably I missed your question. I installed nvidia 195 using apt-get,  since that didn worked, I then removed them, quite likely didn reboot and installe nvidia 256 driver from it's own semi-graphic tool
[20:18] <onaogh> myth41, u mean install ubuntu-server remoyely ?
[20:18] <Aemaeth> but really if you mess around with the bindings long enough you should be able to get an effect close to what you want
[20:18] <onaogh> remotely*
[20:18] <lo127> <- myth41
[20:19] <Aemaeth> haywardgb, mine does weird things all the time, it likes to disappear on me and still run
[20:19] <lo127> yes, remotely
[20:19] <xbonesx> frank63: have you gotten it to work yet then?
[20:19] <rbastic> Anyone have any advice for getting VirtualBox 3.2 to run XP SP 3 in desktop 10.04?
[20:19] <lo127> I have a backup server hooked up to the console
[20:19] <rbastic> It keeps saying FATAL: Could not read from boot medium
[20:19] <Aemaeth> rbastic, you have the image loaded into the virtualbox cddrive?
[20:20] <Aemaeth> or it's your harddrive image failing?
[20:20] <Katsumi32> rbastic, install vbox get xp iso and load it thats all
[20:20] <rbastic> Aemaeth, what do you mean ? I have the ISO selected in the Devices menu
[20:20] <rbastic> and It won't get the virtual machine running
[20:20] <Qwert> Hellop
[20:20] <oasik> >	Katsumi32 what do you mean the one in hardware drivers
[20:20] <rbastic> Or should I actually have a DVD with the ISO burnt onto it and inserted into the machine?
[20:21] <Aemaeth> no, all you need is iso
[20:21] <oasik> the installed driver which is intellinuxdriver package 2009q4 does not work for webots
[20:21] <winterelf> he there, i just installed ubuntu tcl (or somehting :)) 10.4 , and wanted to know if anyone knows how can i get the "show desktop
[20:21] <oasik> the error seemed a simple buffer management error
[20:21] <Katsumi32> oasik, where have you been? i talking aabout you going first to system administration hardware drivers and check if there is nothing to activate
[20:21] <saikat> is it true that ps shows average CPU utilization since the process started and top shows more real-time utilization over a shorter sampling period?
[20:22] <xangua> control+alt+d winterelf
[20:22] <winterelf> he there, i just installed ubuntu tcl (or somehting :)) 10.4 , and wanted to know if anyone knows how can i get the "show desktop" option under compiz... it's seems like missing
[20:22] <Aemaeth> rbastic, so in the settings of the machine, in preferences, and under storage you have the iso loaded
[20:22] <oasik> there is nothing in hardware drivers section
[20:23] <rainrain> trying to get my laptop to output svideo like it did when i was running windows - could anyone help me
[20:23] <oasik> just two wireless driver that does not work
[20:23] <Katsumi32> oasik,  and u have graphic problems right ? do you know the graphic chip you have got ?
[20:23] <soreau> winterelf: Try #compiz
[20:23] <winterelf> tx
[20:23] <xbonesx> I've gotten the view point switcher to work thanks to the #compiz room, its a bug, all you have to do is "Desktop-based Viewport Switching->Move Next/Move Prev to Button4/Button5 respectively"
[20:23] <dcherniv> u
[20:23] <frank63> xbonex: no, it doen work. Iĺl try one more time
[20:23] <frank63> thanks
[20:23] <rbastic> Aemaeth, I don't know. I can't just boot directly off of an ISO file? I keep trying to select the boot medium (with the ISO file selected under Devices->CD/DVD Devices) and it keeps saying Boot medium failed
[20:24] <zr0> i cannot ping a computer on my local lan (wireless router) from my linux machine, but it can ping me -- the linux machine has a static ip.. i get 'destination host unreachable' as the error msg from ping
[20:24] <rbastic> Seems like I actually need a DVD with the ISO burnt onto it
[20:24] <usser> zr0, windows machine?
[20:24] <Aemaeth> odd, i would try another disk to troubleshoot for that image, but then again idk why the image would fail
[20:24] <Katsumi32> rbastic, did you make this iso yourself ? i had the same issue use dirrerent software to burn iso
[20:24] <rbastic> How would I make a Windows XP ISO myself? :P
[20:25] <rbastic> This file comes direct from Microsoft as it is a corporate edition of XP.
[20:25] <Aemaeth> people do it, look at crystal
[20:25] <usser> rbastic, mkisofs :)
[20:25] <rbastic> It was sarcasm guys
[20:25] <Katsumi32> rbastic, if u hvae win installation disk u can easy make iso
[20:25] <onaogh> zr0, that machine on your lan might be blocking pings, firewall
[20:25] <rbastic> Katsumi32, I see
[20:25] <zr0> onaogh: i can ping it from my laptop, which is also on the lan
[20:25] <rainrain> when i go into display and click detect monitors nothing happens - what would this mean typically
[20:25] <rbastic> Katsumi32, Regardless VirtualBox doesn't seem to like booting off of the Microsoft-provided ISO file.
[20:25] <usser> raindog, you dont have any monitors.
[20:25] <Aemaeth> are you sure rest of system is setup for xp?
[20:26] <usser> raindog, pastebin the output of xrandr command
[20:26] <onaogh> zr0, that is strange
[20:26] <rbastic> Aemaeth, no?
[20:26] <rainrain> usser: do you mean me ?
[20:26] <usser> rainrain, oops sorry yea, pastebin xrandr
[20:26] <AbhiJit> i have separate /home. when i reinstall ubuntu will my xchat settings and all other settings will be same?
[20:26] <AbhiJit> as of now?
[20:26] <xangua> AbhiJit: yes
[20:26] <usser> rainrain, is the monitor connected?
[20:26] <onaogh> AbhiJit, yes
[20:26] <Aemaeth> you should have selected "Windows" "Windows XP" when making the virtual machine
[20:26] <usser> rainrain, what videocard are you using?
[20:26] <zr0> onaogh: i think it has to do with dhcp and using a static ip.. how can i be absolutely sure i'm not running a dhcp service?
[20:26] <AbhiJit> xangua, onaogh ok thanks
[20:26] <rainrain> usser: yes - it;s svideo not crt or lcd
[20:27] <rbastic> Aemaeth, Yes, I selected Windows XP when making the VM.
[20:27] <usser> rainrain, still xrandr should detect it
[20:27] <rainrain> usser: dont know
[20:27] <rainrain> usser: yes getting that now
[20:27] <Katsumi32> rbastic, it worked very well for my everything depends what iso u have got i used fist some software to make iso out of my win installation cd than booted ubuntu and it didnt work at all vbox didnt recognisse it than someone told me about other software i burned it again and it worked i tested vbox with win7 and xp both were working
[20:28] <rainrain> usser: problem - i am on a windows machine now because ubuntu m/c not on net yet
[20:28] <rbastic> Katsumi32, the ISO file works when using VIrtualBox on Windows. Can't see a reason this should make a difference on Ubuntu. It's the same machine. Maybe a different version of VirtualBox though.
[20:28] <rainrain> usser: i can see output though - what should i look for
[20:28] <Katsumi32> rbastic, if it work under win it will under ubuntu what the error youre getting ?
[20:29] <onaogh> zr0, i dont think so, if all machines you ur lan have correct ips of your network, either acquired by dhcp or static, all should be able to ping each other, (when firewall allows responding to pings)
[20:29] <rainrain> usser: doesnt seem to mention any video card - it's a fujitsu amilo laptop with the standard card
[20:29] <usser> rainrain, do you see multiple inputs or is it something like this http://pastebin.com/hnk11cPS
[20:29] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to install a .deb package which depends on libbluetooth-dev,   and I get this error:  "Depends: libbluetooth-dev but it is not going to be installed".   I tried installing libbluetooth-dev manually but got this error:   "libbluetooth-dev: Depends: libbluetooth3 (= 4.60-0ubuntu8) but 4.61-0ubuntu2 is to be installed" .   How do I resolve this?
[20:29] <Katsumi32> rbastic, just tell me what the vbox says when youre trying to play xp ?
[20:29] <usser> rainrain, run lspci | grep VGA, that should tell you what videocard you're using
[20:29] <usser> savid, sudo apt-get update and try again
[20:30] <xangua> savid: better install from repository
[20:30] <onaogh> savid, tryed to use synaptics to install that package ?
[20:30] <rbastic> Katsumi32, I set the media source to the ISO file in the New Virtual Machine wizard
[20:30] <savid> usser,  yeah, tried that.  xangua,  I am installing from a repository.
[20:30] <rbastic> "First RUn Wizard" rather
[20:30] <xangua> installing what savi
[20:30] <xangua> savid*
[20:30] <savid> xangua,  I'm using this repo:   deb http://android-notifier-desktop.googlecode.com/svn/deb-repo stable main
[20:30] <xbonesx> frank63: i dont think your installing the correct driver, one sec ill check my version
[20:30] <savid> xangua,  android-desktop-notifier
[20:31] <rbastic> Katsumi32, then it says FATAL: No bootable medium found! System halted.
[20:31] <rainrain> usser: says ... VGA compatible controller: intel corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE chipset inte graphh dev rev 03
[20:31] <Solved> Whenever I boot my computer using live CD, the screen freezes and I have to reboot. What do I do?
[20:31] <rbastic> I will mess around with this further later on. Maybe I can burn a DVD of the ISO file and then get VirtualBox to boot off of that. Anyway, thanks for all your help
[20:31] <rallias0> what is an appropriate shell script to run "./adb devices" indefinately?
[20:32] <onaogh> Solved, any error msg ?
[20:32] <Solved> no
[20:32] <Katsumi32> rbastic, so it isnt bootable if it says no botable than it isnt bootable u may try to get newer vvbox from the web i have got the latest one in synaptic vbox is bit old
[20:32] <alaing> onaogh: nope. still cannot connect
[20:32] <onaogh> Solved, where exactly it freezes ?
[20:32] <rainrain> usser: also checked under drivers and it said it wasnt running any proprietrary drivers
[20:32] <alaing> i've just rebooted the server
[20:33] <Katsumi32> rbastic if you have any questions about vbox join #vbox
[20:33] <Solved> it freezes randomly
[20:33] <Solved> whenever I make it do something too quickly
[20:33] <Solved> or even just open an application
[20:33] <Katsumi32> Solved, it still freeze ? i thought its Solved no?
[20:34] <Solved> no, its not solved, it still freezes, I have no Idea how to fix it
[20:34] <RuiOrey> hi  i got an update stopped and now everytime i try to update i get this error "unable to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/user/ppa-name/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz "
[20:34] <boss_mc> !cron | rallias
[20:34] <RuiOrey> anyone knows how to solve this?
[20:34] <usser> rainrain, hm, intel should be ok.
[20:34] <Arunomi> Hi...
[20:35] <usser> rainrain, what about glxinfo | grep -i direct do you get DirectRendering Yes?
[20:35] <lafa_ar> hi!
[20:35] <steve__> hello all, I have aquired a 64gb flash disk for free, shows device errors and will not mount in windows, I am not trying to mount it in ubuntu and it will not show up as /dev/sd? which i would expect. Is there anyone that could guide me on how to further troubleshoot? dmesg is showing me "usb 2-2: string descriptor 0 read error: -110" and lsusb is showing "Bus 002 Device 006: ID 1b1c:0ab1" (both clipped for easy reading) I am guessing
[20:35] <steve__>  that the drive is not returning a proper string descriptor but Im not sure if that is a the problem or symptom...
[20:36] <Katsumi32> Solved, can you tell me ones more about the issue?  u boot up ubuntu and the screen freeze ?
[20:36] <savid> xangua,  any ideas why libbluetooth-dev won't install?
[20:36] <rainrain> usser: direct rendering yes but it says get fences failed : -1
[20:36] <Arunomi> I wonder if there is any one out there that has hade mouse problem on there lapptop
[20:36] <thedude42> anyone else having fglrx module build problems?
[20:36] <steve__> nb: sorry for the essay
[20:36] <lafa_ar> can someone tell me a application for unistalling the packages properly also with temp files ?
[20:36] <allu2> xbonesx, hey i got my gwibber account authenticated :)
[20:36] <Katsumi32> steve_ type lsusb and see if thre is your flash drive
[20:36] <savid> I get this odd error when trying to install libbluetooth-dev -- I'm not sure how to interpret it:  "Depends: libbluetooth3 (= 4.60-0ubuntu8) but 4.61-0ubuntu2 is to be installed"
[20:36] <KeGeeST123> Hello ima new at here lol
[20:36] <trism> rallias0: you could do: watch adb devices; and it will continually run the command and print the output to the screen
[20:37] <allu2> xbonesx, i just needed to get older package from debian repos and authenthicate on it and then use aptitude to upgrade to the ubuntus newer version and it had the details and authentication done already :)
[20:37] <Arunomi> My problem is that the mouse is living it's own life from time to time.
[20:37] <steve__> Katsumi32, the only new entry that appears when the drive is inserted is "Bus 002 Device 006: ID 1b1c:0ab1  "
[20:37] <usser> rainrain, hm, something is not right. if you could pastebin the entire output of glxinfo that would be great
[20:37] <lafa_ar> can someone tell me a application for remove the packages (or softwares we can say) properly also with temp files ?
[20:37] <sv--> hi
[20:37] <Katsumi32> Arunomi, how does she do that ?
[20:38] <rainrain> usser: i will log off this mc and get the amilo on the net and log back on
[20:38] <Acidphase> maybe someone can give me a hand here the fglrx will not install
[20:38] <Solved> Katsumi32: I boot ubuntu, and as soon as I open an application or even just move the mouse sometimes, the screen freezes, and I have to reboot
[20:38] <thedude42> Acidphase: I have the same issue
[20:38] <Katsumi32> steve_ so it isnt recognised do you know the name of this stick ?
[20:38] <Arunomi> The pointer starts vibrating and can some time jump from one side of the screen to the other
[20:39] <Solved> and it only happens when I boot using live CD
[20:39] <thedude42> Acidphase: what kernel version are you using?
[20:39] <Acidphase> basically saying I have dependency issues just wish I knew which ones, fglrx was working I used the recent update now no go...
[20:39] <Katsumi32> solved did you try to boot in recovery mode  minimal graphic and than check hardware drivers ?
[20:39] <Acidphase> 2.6.32-25-generic #44
[20:39] <obaid_> Solved, when you boot from CD, it takes time to load the programs from CD, specially if the CD is scratched or the Cd drive is old, dont load the programs quickly so it wont hang
[20:40] <Acidphase> (64 bit version)
[20:40] <Solved> Katsumi32: How am I supposed to boot live CD in recovery mode
[20:40] <steve__> Katsumi32, yes, it is a corsair survivor, but the usb VID/PID shows it as a "Corsair Flash Voyager USB Device"
[20:40] <funkiwan> Boot help needed: I can't seem to boot my system when i remove a drive that used to be part of a raid1 array, but has since been removed via mdadm. The grub2 menu loads, and the Kubuntu loading image displays briefly, and then the screen goes blank aside from a blinking cursor in the upper left corner.
[20:40] <Arunomi> It often happen when the comp has been one for a while.
[20:40] <steve__> Katsumi32, when I have looked it up on the net that is
[20:40] <rallias0> trism: i specifically need a shell script because it needs to be a somewhat high speed access. Is there a way to accelerate watch?
[20:40] <thedude42> Acidphase: same thing happened to me, and I also used the swat PPA for bleeding edge xorg drivers, and same problem
[20:40] <Solved> obaid: If I wait 15 minutes and then open an application or do something else, it still freezes
[20:40] <Acidphase> you using Lucid?
[20:41] <Arunomi> It often happen when the comp has been own for a while.
[20:41] <thedude42> Acidphase: yes, Lucid 64 bit as well
[20:41] <Arunomi> It often happen when the comp has been on for a while.
[20:41] <Acidphase> hmm I'm going nuts  try to purge and install
[20:41] <Katsumi32> Solved, do you have flash drive or other cd ? burn it again
[20:41] <Acidphase> does anyone know if there is a way to rebuild the fglrx from the install image?
[20:41] <Solved> Katsumi32: Its the cd I got from ubuntu, not one I downloaded of the internet
[20:41] <thedude42> Acidphase: I've resolved to shut off my second monitor, run in low graphics mode until they push out a fix... and resolve to not do kernel or video updates the first day they are released
[20:42] <savid> Well, I guess I just had to downgrad a version of my currently installed libbluetooth3.  Not sure why libbluetooth-dev requires an exact version (=) instead of >=.
[20:42] <Acidphase> I dont understand why I cant roll it back
[20:42] <Acidphase> it was working and now it's not
[20:42] <Acidphase> lol
[20:42] <rallias0> how do i fix an unexpected end of file error when running an sh script?
[20:42] <obaid_> Solved, live cd isnt meant to be used for productivity, just diagnostic, rescue, installation..etc
[20:42] <Katsumi32> Solved, im not sure but if it was me i would burn it again cuz if u got from ubuntu it maybe scratched if you burned it  yourself maybe other issue just tyr make new live cd
[20:42] <thedude42> Acidphase: if you're totally up on your dpkg-fu I think you could use some pinning tricks to get the old packages back, however I am far below that level of competance
[20:43] <Acidphase> ya me to
[20:43] <Acidphase> lol
[20:43] <funkiwan> Would love some help with my boot problem. Anyone?
[20:43] <Acidphase> what if we were to build the packages from an older driver version?
[20:44] <Katsumi32> steve_ and your usb is recognised when you click on places do you see new  hdd or anything ?
[20:44] <Solved> Katsumi32: but I downloaded ubuntu off it and it works fine
[20:44] <theixle> I'm having trouble printing to a shared printer on a windows machine. I've read all the how-to's on the forum but A) They don't match my kubuntu printer setup options and B) If the windows printer is shared in samba by default I don't know the smb:// address.
[20:44] <thedude42> Acidphase: I was poking around launchpad looking at bugs and it seems like there's a boatload of auto-generated crash reports created in the last 24 hours for fglrx-installer
[20:44] <Acidphase> half of them are problem from me LOL
[20:44] <Arunomi> Does any one had this problem
[20:44] <trism> rallias0: you can use the -n argument to specify the seconds, the default is 2s though, I can't imagine you change devices quicker than that. For a shell script, you could use an infinite while loop and sleep, but you can't sleep less than second precision anyway, and you will be limited to out fast the interpreter starts and stops anyway
[20:44] <Katsumi32> Solved, so its working or not? if one cd doesnt work and other do work whats the problem ?
[20:44] <rainrain__> usser; back again ... http://pastebin.com/KRihPJPS
[20:44] <lee_> how do i install awn extras?
[20:45] <Solved> Katsumi32: I need to use gparted but I dont have the administration rights to do without live CD
[20:45] <obaid_> funkiwan, whats problem with ur booting ?
[20:45] <jrib> !software > lxlee
[20:45] <rallias0> trism: i'm not switching devices. I'm rooting my phone
[20:45] <lafa_ar>  can someone please tell me a application for remove the packages (or softwares we can say) properly also with temp files ?
[20:45] <funkiwan> obaid_: I can't seem to boot my system when i remove a drive that used to be part of a raid1 array, but has since been removed via mdadm. The grub2 menu loads, and the Kubuntu loading image displays briefly, and then the screen goes blank aside from a blinking cursor in the upper left corner.
[20:45] <Acidphase> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver <[20:45] <thedude42> Acidphase: yeah I don't really know the root cause of this.... I went and fixed the problems in the source file that the apt-get messages pointed to in the make error log, and the build still didn't go through which makes me believe that there are more things afoot
[20:45] <valentino_tuga> hi. how do i install the login window on ubuntu netbook edition?
[20:46] <Acidphase> for some reason I think it's  a kernel header problem
[20:46] <Katsumi32> Solved, does it ask you for password? and if you want to resize partition and u have got windows already installed u can do it under windows very easy in control panel
[20:46] <skrite> valentino_tuga: install gdm
[20:46] <usser> rainrain, hm looks ok, did you try plugging it the external monitor and restarting xorg?
[20:46] <thedude42> Acidphase: yeah that tutorial is pretty old and the problems it resolves only apply to older versions
[20:46] <usser> rainrain, sometimes it doesnt detect it until you restart x server
[20:47] <rainrain__> usser, sorry - how do i restart xorg
[20:47] <xbonesx> allu2: ya me too suddenly it jjust worked ??? lol :p
[20:47] <Katsumi32> Acidphase, what card do you have?
[20:47] <Solved> k
[20:47] <Katsumi32> i know its ati what ver Acidphase ?
[20:47] <thedude42> Acidphase: yeah the make errors seem to also say it possibly has an issue with the newer kernel, and the bleeding edge PPA stuff only seemed to break for the older kernel module build, but broke in another way for the newer kernel
[20:47] <Acidphase> I have a HD5870
[20:47] <trism> rallias0: if you need it as fast as possible: while true; do adb devices; done;
[20:47] <rainrain__> usser, the ext monitor is s-video
[20:47] <valentino_tuga> skrite gdm is already installed
[20:48] <Katsumi32> Acidphase, i have good news for you :)
[20:48] <Acidphase> amen
[20:48] <Acidphase> lol
[20:48] <Katsumi32> Acidphase,  go to amd and get propper driver for your card it will work perfect trust me
[20:48] <Acidphase> I did that
[20:48] <allu2> xbonesx, :D i was too impatience to wait  :P
[20:48] <Aemaeth> what about my intel card?
[20:48] <lafa_ar>  can someone please tell me a application for remove the packages (or softwares we can say) properly also with temp files ?
[20:48] <Acidphase> still having problem
[20:48] <Aemaeth> they never have anything for intel :(
[20:48] <thedude42> Acidphase: yeah the ati catalyst NEVER works for me, ever
[20:49] <Katsumi32> Acidphase,  can you show me the web you have got your driver from ?
[20:49] <Aemaeth> lafa_ar, synaptic?
[20:49] <csmith1994> hey guys how can I network my ubuntu machine to my stand alone win98 machine
[20:49] <Acidphase> I got it from ATI
[20:49] <valentino_tuga> what is the shell name of the login window?
[20:49] <Acidphase> (amd)
[20:49] <AbhiJit> valentino_tuga, gmd
[20:49] <AbhiJit> no i think not sorry
[20:49] <Katsumi32> Acidphase, there is many drivers for different cards wait sec
[20:50] <lafa_ar> Aemaeth: synaptic can not clean the temp files. i remove many thinks with it. example : wine. but now when i check for wine files on my filesystem i see many many temp files...
[20:50] <Acidphase> GameBeast:~/catalyst$ ls
[20:50] <Acidphase> ati-driver-installer-10-9-x86.x86_64.run
[20:50] <Acidphase> fglrx_8.771-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[20:50] <Acidphase> fglrx-amdcccle_8.771-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[20:50] <Acidphase> fglrx-dev_8.771-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[20:50] <FloodBot3> Acidphase: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:50] <Ichat> lafa_ar:  -  you can do that with synaptic,   'by forcing removall   -      reed the help file
[20:50] <csmith1994> so I can transfer files between them
[20:50] <Katsumi32> acid you have got desktop pc right ?
[20:50] <Acidphase> yep
[20:50] <Katsumi32> ok wait
[20:50] <lafa_ar> Ichat: it cleans the other temp files from fileysystem or just from home directory ?
[20:50] <olga__> ciao
[20:51] <Padster> hey
[20:51] <olga__> ciao
[20:51] <csmith1994> can anyone help me?
[20:51] <lafa_ar>  Ichat: because i know that force removal is to remove the home directory files...
[20:51] <Acidphase> I even tried GameBeast:~/catalyst$ ls
[20:51] <Acidphase> ati-driver-installer-10-9-x86.x86_64.run
[20:51] <Acidphase> fglrx_8.771-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[20:51] <Acidphase> fglrx-amdcccle_8.771-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[20:51] <Acidphase> fglrx-dev_8.771-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[20:51] <FloodBot3> Acidphase: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:51] <Katsumi32> Acidphase, one more question is your ubuntu 32 or 64 ? a
[20:51] <obaid_> csmith1994, yes
[20:51] <Padster> has anyone had the copy window stop when it's done and just stay up?
[20:51] <Aemaeth> Katsumi32, anything about those intel cards?
[20:51] <valentino_tuga> in ubuntu login window is located in administration. in ubuntu netbook remix i cannot find it
[20:51] <xbonesx> anyone bothered to try and get evolution to use pop3 for yahoo email?
[20:51] <Katsumi32> Acidphase, one more question is your ubuntu 32 or 64 ? a
[20:52] <Acidphase> I have 64bit
[20:52] <Katsumi32> ok sec
[20:52] <csmith1994> obaid_ I have a win98 stand alone machine and a laptop running ubuntu I want to connect the two so I can transfer a file without a disk
[20:52] <Acidphase> btw I even tried this - sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite fglrx*.deb
[20:52] <Acidphase> and this.. sudo apt-get -f install
[20:53] <obaid_> csmith1994, you have got a network ?
[20:53] <Katsumi32> Acidphase, this is your driver and it work download that one and if you have any problems ask me    http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[20:53] <Anom01y_> hey I am trying to install Xubuntu on this Acer Aspire computer designed for MS vista, but the keyboard / mouse fail to work when I try "try ubuntu" or "install ubuntu".   They work however to access the bios settings, and they also work at the startup menu of the xubuntu 9.10 live-cd.   Just wondering how to get them to work ?
[20:53] <Katsumi32> acid to install it u have to just click on it and u dont need to uninstall anything
[20:53] <Acidphase> ya thats the one I downloaded =P
[20:53] <thedude42> Acidphase: are you getting the error saying 'Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.32-25-generic (x86_64)
[20:53] <csmith1994> obaid_ I have an ethernet cable and a network but the win98 isn't on the network. my main problem is that I have files on my flash drive but cant transfer them because win98 doesn't have the necessary drivers
[20:54] <Acidphase> thedude no
[20:54] <Acidphase> little different I check in a second
[20:54] <Anom01y_> I have tried several keyboards so that makes me think it is USB drivers for this computer that are the problem
[20:54] <csmith1994> i'm using the transfer to move a driver file so I can use the flash drive
[20:54] <thedude42> Acidphase: do a apt-get remove --purge on all your fglrx packages
[20:54] <obaid_> csmith1994, you can install usb flash drive drivers on win98
[20:55] <CrazyBoy> name !!
[20:55] <thedude42> Acidphase: find the packages using dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[20:55] <CrazyBoy> nombrenme !!!
[20:55] <Acidphase> ok one sec
[20:55] <Katsumi32> Acidphase,  the driver should work with your card for sure i have hd4850 and it work perfect
[20:55] <marlos> hi everyone.. :)
[20:55] <Padster> hi
[20:55] <thedude42> Katsumi32: what kernel version are you running?
[20:55] <Katsumi32> 2.6.35
[20:55] <Katsumi32> 10.04
[20:55] <thedude42> Katsumi32: we're on 2.6.32-25
[20:56] <obaid_> csmith1994, http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php
[20:56] <xbonesx> Need someone to help me get evolution using pop3 and getting ubuntu chat to accept my facebook account for chatting??? please someone!
[20:56] <Katsumi32> it does work on 2.6.32 too thedude42
[20:56] <Katsumi32> i tested it on 2.6.32 and 2.6.35
[20:56] <Padster> ubuntu chat? there is none
[20:56] <thedude42> Katsumi32: we both started this issue after a recent (yesterday) kernel update
[20:57] <Anom01y_> LIghts don't even come on
[20:57] <Anom01y_> hello ?
[20:57] <marlos> What do you think of the Ultimate Edition?
[20:58] <Katsumi32> thedude42, i know one thing i tested both catalyst and os driver and the os doesnt work well it use more cpu and 3d isnt good with catalyst i cant change whatever i want to when idle the cpu stays 0 gpu load 0 temp 35C
[20:59] <Acidphase> I'm going to rebuild the packages just for you
[20:59] <Katsumi32> thedude42, if u have 2.6.32-12 and u upgrade to 2.6.32-15 there is nothing differentt between those kernels mean your driver wont work diferently
[21:00] <ott> hi
[21:00] <Acidphase> I even replaced the downloaded file maybe it's corrupt
[21:00] <Padster> hi
[21:00] <thedude42> Acidphase: unlikely
[21:00] <Acidphase> ya I know =P
[21:00] <Aemaeth> is there any easy way to figure out the path to a usb device? say if i plug in my phone and i want to know where it's represented?  i know lsusb will list the devices, but it's in a form i don't understand how to access in other programs
[21:00] <Acidphase> (got to humor him)
[21:00] <Katsumi32> Acidphase, see me on prv i will try to help you if u want
[21:00] <thedude42> Acidphase: I think the script even has an embedded md5 that it checks itself against
[21:01] <Acidphase> ya it does
[21:01] <erUSUL> Aemaeth: in a terminal « tailf /var/log/messages » then plug the phone. the devices ( if any ) should appear in the terminal debug messages
[21:01] <obaid_> tail -f
[21:01] <thedude42> Aemaeth: do you even know whether your phone presents a serial console interface via the hardware you're plugging in?
[21:02] <Aemaeth> thedude42, yea, ive no trouble with my phone, that was an example
[21:03] <neriukas> !bot
[21:03] <thedude42> Aemaeth: device nodes are created typically by udev, but scripts can also add them.... but if there are no udev rules for the USB device then only scripts or manual intevention will create /dev device nodes
[21:04] <neriukas> !ubuntu
[21:04] <neriukas> !linux
[21:04] <Aemaeth> erUSUL, ehci_hd?
[21:04] <trism> !msgthebot | neriukas
[21:04] <Jesdisciple> o, I c - Neriukas is the reason it's spamming so much =p
[21:05] <Aemaeth> thedude42, kk, good to know, thanks. so how hard is it to just test if something can be used like that?
[21:05] <erUSUL> Aemaeth: no that's the driver. paste the complete output to a pastebin
[21:05] <erUSUL> !paste | Aemaeth
[21:05] <rainrain_> usser, restarted xorg but no change - i am now thinking that if i could just get some way of doing the 'fn + F4 key' to switch displays then it might work because maybe it 's not going to see the s-video - do you know how i could do this from a menu or something - FN + F4 is setup on the laptop for switching display but on linux is seems to do something else
[21:05] <thedude42> Aemaeth: since the usb id's are unique to the device you can typically google for them to see what support is out there
[21:06] <thedude42> Aemaeth: and if you haven't run the command 'dmesg' after plugging in the device, you'd want to do that to see what the kernel thinks
[21:07] <Aemaeth> erUSUL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/496056/
[21:07] <erUSUL> Aemaeth: well now we know there is a problem «  cdc_acm: probe of 2-1:1.0 failed with error -22
[21:07] <xbonesx> Is there a way to remove workspaces?
[21:07] <Aemaeth> dmesg does little i understand right now
[21:07] <xbonesx> I only need two...
[21:08] <coolroot--> erUSUL: bro...why is it that everytime i restart my laptop all my screenlets are gone and my background changes? in my screenlets i actually check the box saying autorun on start or something like that?
[21:08] <Aemaeth> xbonesx, its in compiz, towards the top
[21:08] <thedude42> Aemaeth: all you care about in the dmesg output is what pops up in the minute or so after you plug in the device
[21:08] <xbonesx> Aemaeth: ty
[21:08] <Aemaeth> xbonesx, general options, not sure how low you can go
[21:08] <Aemaeth> and then desktop size
[21:09] <theixle> I'm having trouble printing to a shared printer on a windows machine. I've read all the how-to's on the forum but A) They don't match my kubuntu printer setup options and B) If the windows printer is shared in samba by default I don't know the smb:// address (smb://<local ip> didn't work)
[21:09] <thedude42> Aemaeth: so unplug the device, wait a bit, run dmesg, see what it looks like, plug the device back in, wait a minue, run dmesg again, see if anything new popped up
[21:09] <xbonesx> Aemaeth: got two too work... ty :)
[21:09] <erUSUL> Aemaeth: unfortunetly searching google with the error does not shed any ligt ....
[21:09] <Aemaeth> xbonesx, i use 6, did you know in compiz you can make unique wallpapers for the different backgrounds?
[21:09] <xbonesx> Aemaeth: no i didnt how?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> theixle: does Linux have a driver for the make / model ?
[21:10] <Aemaeth> erUSUL, thanks, you and thedude42  pretty much gave me what i need to work on this
[21:10] <Padster> Aemaeth: you can? since when?
[21:10] <Aemaeth> since forever, but you have to go into gconf settings and turn off nautilus's control of desktop
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> theixle: does the windows system's firewall permit local traffic (if one exists)
[21:10] <Aemaeth> you lose icons and mount points on desktop but gain different wallpapers
[21:10] <theixle> actionparsnip: I thought that was part of the benefit of printing to a windows shared printer. That you don't have to have the drivers on linux.
[21:10] <Andre_Gondim> hi, I did a installation by wubi and when I pass from gdm, my ubuntu just crash, and I only have reboot to do, any tip?
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> theixle: yep, you need the driver
[21:11] <Aemaeth> Then you just use compiz's wallpaper plugin to list the wallpapers in order
[21:11] <theixle> actionparsnip: No firewall on the windows machine, and I can print to that windows printer from another windows amchine on the network.
[21:11] <Aemaeth> learning how to do that in compiz let me learn gconf settings, and now i have some cool settings for different programs
[21:11] <Padster> Aemaeth: oh, well, i'd rather have my usb sticks then different wps
[21:12] <coolroot--> why is it that everytime i restart my laptop all my screenlets are gone and my background changes? in my screenlets i actually check the box saying autorun on start or something like that?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> theixle: because the driver will be the same so it will copy across nicely
[21:12] <theixle> actionparsnip: what do I do to check the drivers?
[21:12] <Aemaeth> just can't see the mount points, Places works fine for me, Paddy_NI
[21:12] <Aemaeth> *padster
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> theixle: what make / model is the printer?
[21:12] <rainrain_> i think i need  a program to assign hotkeys in ubuntu - could anyone recommed a really easy to use one for a linux newbie - gui please
[21:12] <theixle> actionparsnip: hp psc 500
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> theixle: it'll work, hp love linux
[21:13] <AbhiJit> rainrain, you can do that from system-->preferences-->keyboard shortcuts?
[21:13] <Padster> Aemaeth: ? i mean the usb sticks showing up on the desktop.
[21:13] <Aemaeth> and since i have to hide the data drive from relatives, it kills two birds with one stone, even though i have them locked out anyhow
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> theixle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[21:13] <erUSUL> coolroot--: really dunno; i do not use them myself sorry
[21:13] <Aemaeth> Padster, then we are on same page, yes this is not for you
[21:13] <Aemaeth> sorry
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> theixle: make sure the share name of the printer has no spaces (makes life easier)
[21:13] <Yerushalmi> Hey folks. Today I turned on my computer to discover an "initramfs" prompt and the multiple "No such file or directory" error messages on mounting root/dev, root/sys, and root/proc. Help!
[21:13] <Aemaeth> i hear kde can do it easier
[21:13] <Aemaeth> but then you're stuck in kde :(
[21:14] <rainrain_> AbhiJit: i though i looked there - i am needing the switch on external display
[21:14] <theixle> actionparsnip: I tried that tutorial, but it doesn't match with my Kubuntu printing setup screens
[21:15] <AbhiJit> rainrain, dunno what you want. i am goign now. try asking in channel if anyonw knows then they will answer. by have a good day!
[21:15] <neriukas> ?? Alt + Print Screen
[21:15] <rainrain_> AbhiJit: thanks anyway
[21:15] <AbhiJit> rainrain, bye
[21:15] <AbhiJit> bye all gn sd! :)
[21:16] <Somtin> anyone know of an irc channel where i can get help setting up jackd under ubuntu 10.04?
[21:16] <Aemaeth> network printers show up supa easy in ubuntu
[21:16] <theixle> actionparsnip: Well, when I click Browse, it doesn't find the printer named hppsc500.
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> theixle: if you open the computer in the samba browsing method that kde uses, when you see all the shares, can you see the printer too?
[21:16] <theixle> actionparsnip: hrm, i don't know if i'm familiar with the samba browsing method you mean
[21:17] <rainrain_> my fn and f4 key combination doesnt switch external display like it did in windows - any one know how i can turn on/off the ext display
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> theixle: in the address bar of (I guess) dolphin, type: smb://servername      do you see all the shares?
[21:18] <Lollipop56> rainrain_, check my pm
[21:20] <theixle> actionparsnip: I'm trying smb://192.168.0.64 and it's not working. That is the ip of the windows box with the hp psc 500
[21:20] <erUSUL> Somtin: #ubuntustudio ?
[21:20] <neriukas> !linuxvirus
[21:20] <Somtin> i'm not using ubuntustudio, just plain ubuntu with jackd installed, but i'll give it a try, thanks.
[21:21] <etheretic> !iowait
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> theixle: ok try adding a printer, then select smb printer and fill in the details. I'd also ask in #kubuntu
[21:21] <theixle> actionparsnip: Error msg from dolphin: "Unable to find any workgroups in your local network"
[21:21] <Aemaeth> neriukas, but i have heard of scripts that can be loaded in a normal web browser and without elevated privileges do some bad
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> theixle: you may have to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf to make sure the system is in the same workgroup
[21:22] <theixle> actionparsnip: Isn't this what I tried first?
[21:22] <neriukas> aemeath block flash and java ;)
[21:23] <theixle> actionparnsip: Is the printer shared in samba by default? I didn't set up samba on the windows computer ever. I just shared it like the ubuntu help tutorial said.
[21:23] <neriukas> aemeath it is possible
[21:24] <etheretic> I have a wireless connection which partly works - irc and p2p does, www amule ping doesn't. Anyone hazard the cause?
[21:24] <ComradeHaz`> etheretic, no dns....
[21:24] <Aemaeth> neriukas, already block everything, but to ignore it would be like big companies that deny flaws
[21:25] <Aemaeth> or not flaws...
[21:25] <g0bl1n> in Maverick 10.10, Netbook edition, how can one change the left icons menu ?
[21:25] <etheretic> ComradeHaz`: do have dns, but can't ping them.
[21:25] <Yerushalmi> Today on booting up I got a series of three "mounting failed: no such file or directory" error messages, "target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init", and an "(initramfs)" prompt. Can someone help me?
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> theixle: can you ping the IP?
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> !10.10 | g0bl1n
[21:25] <g0bl1n> ActionParsnip, ty
[21:26] <theixle> actionparsnip: yes
[21:26] <ComradeHaz`> Then you need to find out why. I'm afraid I'm not the man to ask though really. But certainly if you cann'e piong 'em ya cann'e use 'em!
[21:26] <Paddy_NI> etheretic, firewall, port...?
[21:26] <erUSUL> etheretic: what is the error from ping ?
[21:27] <Paddy_NI> !amule | etheretic
[21:27] <Paddy_NI> hmm]
[21:27] <etheretic> ComradeHaz`: raht. any way to force other dns'es?
[21:27] <ProNihilist> my touchpad has a function key combo to disable it (acer laptop) and it's usually disabled, but I'm trying to use it now and even when I enable it (and get the OSD message to show it is enabled) it wont work, still acts like it is disabled
[21:27] <etheretic> erUSUL: host unreacable.
[21:27] <ComradeHaz`> depends how things are set up, can be defined in your interfaces file.
[21:27] <neriukas> aemeath you don't block flash you block that you don't need, linux or another os in universe isn't safe never be safe
[21:27] <erUSUL> etheretic: something odd in the routing table?
[21:28] <erUSUL> anything*
[21:28] <step21_> hey, someone know how to umask locked directories on an os x part. for the normal user? or if not umask something else that works?
[21:28]  * etheretic doesn't rememer how to suppress irc sever messages (leavejoin) ... ?
[21:28] <Corruptor> hi all!! =)
[21:28] <erUSUL> etheretic: depends on the irc client
[21:28] <ProNihilist> etheretic: /ignore #ubuntu joins parts quits
[21:28] <Aemaeth> neriukas, yeah, there was that adobe thing going around right? so anything running the official software was at risk, ever hear anything on that? all news said was it existed
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> etheretic: what client?
[21:29] <coolroot--> is there any apps like screenlets?
[21:29] <etheretic> erUSUL: pidgin atm.
[21:29] <Aemaeth> like screenlets? there's screenlets
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> theixle: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-409593.html
[21:29] <Paddy_NI> coolroot--, gdesklets, cairo-dock, awn, google gadgets
[21:29] <Paddy_NI> loads
[21:30] <Aemaeth> i like awn better than docky
[21:30] <etheretic> ActionParsnip: can't www, othervise I'd search. :*)
[21:30] <erUSUL> etheretic: i think pidgin needs extra plugins for that ... but i really dunno
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> etheretic: if you bring up the main pidgin screen, press CTRL+U   and turn on the "Join / part hiding" plugin
[21:30] <zaidka> hi. my ubuntu has a loud and weird beep sound.. hwo can i fix that?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> etheretic: if you can't www how are you on here???
[21:30] <erUSUL> step21_: moun it with the correct uid gid dir_mask etc options
[21:30] <erUSUL> step21_: see "man mount"
[21:31] <neriukas> aemeath, you can be safe if you are not stupid and don't open all files like linuxvirus, or something, but you can relax because visurs for linux are very little, but remember you need antivisus and firewall
[21:31] <erUSUL> step21_: hfs section btw
[21:32] <etheretic> ActionParsnip: beats me. read back.
[21:32] <step21_> erUSUL: I tried but it does not seem to be recognized. umask=000,uid=1000,gid=1000
[21:32] <shugart> anyone have any thoughts why I can't get a dell vostoro 200 to boot from CD (tried CD drive and USB-CD drive, runs memtest86+ just fine from CD) but won't load kernel ?
[21:32] <Aemaeth> neriukas, yeah, i know mang, and i'm not even sure how complicated they could make that html script, might be able to do little
[21:33] <ComradeHaz`> Gentlemen, is there a graphics safe mode for ubuntu installer as mentioned in this post: http://tb-nguyen.blogspot.com/2010/03/ubuntu-install-error-blank-screen.html
[21:33] <guntbert> etheretic: see http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages#Pidgin.2FGaim
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> etheretic: tried adding the google DNS instead of your iSPs?
[21:33] <etheretic> ActionParsnip: has happened before.
[21:33] <ComradeHaz`> Pressing f4 on my install media for 10.4 doesn't yield such an option
[21:33] <Jordan_U> shugart: Has any distro booted on this machine? What happens when you try to boot?
[21:33] <erUSUL> step21_: :/
[21:33] <etheretic> ActionParsnip: no - howto?
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> etheretic: in network manager (or whatever you use) set the interface to use DHCP for addres only then set the DNS servers to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[21:34] <orbinet> hola
[21:34] <shugart> Jordan_U: I got FC9 to boot on it, when I boot it it just hangs with the cursor blink
[21:34] <Jordan_U> shugart: What graphics card?
[21:34] <step21_> shugart: sounds like it does boot (memtest) but that somehow the kernel can't access it. maybe try some boot options at the boot prompt?
[21:35] <neriukas> aemeath i am not surry, but i think web browser can open danger code, like java application witch can scan files like online antivirus or delete or spy files, just look from practise
[21:35] <shugart> Jordan_U: intel intergrated 256MB chip
[21:36] <shugart> step21_: any suggestions ?
[21:36] <CamFox> "/set beep_when_window_active ON"
[21:36] <CamFox> "/set beep_when_away ON"
[21:36] <CamFox> "/set beep_msg_level MSGS NOTICES DCC DCCMSGS HILIGHT"
[21:36] <FloodBot3> CamFox: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:36] <CamFox> Ooops, sorry
[21:37] <theixle> actionparsnip: Ok followed the instructions there but the printer and/or samba share still isn't getting found.
[21:37] <theixle> actionparsnip: Like I said I never set any samba settings on the windows machine. Just enabled sharing in the printers properties.
[21:37] <shugart> step21_: turning noapci off seemed to do the trick
[21:38] <rope> anyone know about mod_wsgi?
[21:38] <Vbitz> about 2 times in the last month my hp mini 211 netbook has droped into low graphics mode, this seems to be caused by gnome-terminal since it has been open when this happens, i am unable to restart x from this state and just shut it down
[21:39] <step21_> shugart: :)
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> theixle: what windows version is sharing the printer (please not win7)
[21:39] <shugart> step21_: thanks, I should have caught that, didn't remember apci
[21:40] <becomingGuru> How do I crop an image, on Ubuntu... Efficiently, to a fixed size
[21:40] <theixle> actionparsnip: nah, xp
[21:40] <toxictux> becomingGuru, using the shell?
[21:40] <Yerushalmi> Today on booting up I got a series of three "mounting failed: no such file or directory" error messages, "target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init", and an "(initramfs)" prompt. Can someone help me?
[21:40] <llutz> becomingGuru: convert (imagemagick)
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> theixle: good, win7 has a new samba, its weird
[21:41] <becomingGuru> toxictux, llutz here is the detailed question: http://superuser.com/questions/190177/crop-image-to-a-fixed-size-on-ubuntu
[21:41] <becomingGuru> I want to be able to select the appropriate portion
[21:41] <neriukas> !danger
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> theixle: http://www.willmer.com/kb/2005/05/printing-to-windows-xp-printer-from-ubuntu/
[21:42] <rizzuh> sudo rm -Rf /
[21:42] <toxictux> becomingGuru, you can use gimp
[21:42] <rizzuh> You've all been deleted.
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> rizzuh: don't bother
[21:42] <toxictux> becomingGuru, the cutter tool is quite powerfull
[21:42] <becomingGuru> toxictux, No, The number of clicks and mouse operations will make me retarded, by the time, I do for all... Gimp has no easy way
[21:43] <neriukas> !warning
[21:43] <becomingGuru> THERE HAS GOT TO BE A SIMPLER WAY
[21:44] <Trian3> Oh, joy.  I just rebooted Ubuntu to find that upon logging in all I have access to is a terminal screen inside of a non-functional GUI.  Between reboots, I installed KDE.  Could that be related?
[21:44] <theixle> actionparsnip: This is where my settings differ from the posted instructions. From system->printers->add printer->windows printer via samba dialog window The only text entry box is a "smb://" box
[21:45] <theixle> actionparsnip: No WORKGROUP or HOST text entry box
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> theixle: can you send a screenshot of the printer config window. I dont use kde (too slow for my taste)
[21:46] <theixle> well, i've got xfce running
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> theixle: in the smb:// bit try typing hostname/sharenameofprinter
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> theixle: or ip address istead of hostname
[21:47] <theixle> actionparsnip: I've tried "smb://<name of windows machine>/<name of shared printer>
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> theixle: try setting the printer as a network printer, put in the IP and then click probe. It may find it
[21:48] <NotBandit> Is there a keyboard shortcut to restart GDM?
[21:49] <haywardgb> Any recommendations for usb wifi dongles that support injection for Ubuntu ?
[21:49] <erUSUL> NotBandit: sysrq + k
[21:49] <erUSUL> !sysrq
[21:49] <erUSUL> NotBandit: Alt + PrintScreen + k
[21:49] <NotBandit> Thanks guys :D
[21:49] <ComradeHaz`> Crtl + ALt + Backspace not work?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> you can reinstate the old CTRL+ALT+BackSpace in keyboard settings too
[21:49] <erUSUL> ComradeHaz`: not anymore
[21:50] <ComradeHaz`> Ah.
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> ComradeHaz`: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enabledisable-ctrlaltbackspace-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html
[21:50] <rope> can anyone point me to some tips on ubuntu + mod_wsgi
[21:50] <rope> ?
[21:50] <spid3rxx> i use back track ubuntu
[21:50] <ComradeHaz`> Why did they disable that?
[21:50] <erUSUL> NotBandit: note that Alt + PrintScreen + k will kill all userspace processes not just X windows
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> spid3rxx: it's not supported here
[21:50] <spid3rxx> why
[21:50] <jrib> rope: nothing really special to do afaik, just make make sure you install it
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> ComradeHaz`: because people were losing work or something. I have no idea.
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> spid3rxx: because its not ubuntu
[21:51] <ComradeHaz`> lol, fools.
[21:51] <erUSUL> ComradeHaz`: to avoid accidental "ooops i lost my work!!!!"
[21:51] <NotBandit> Thanks erUSUL
[21:51] <spid3rxx> no  it is
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> ComradeHaz`: i know, go figure
[21:51] <ComradeHaz`> :D
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> spid3rxx: no, its backtrack
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> !backtrack | spid3rxx
[21:51]  * ComradeHaz` can't even install Ubuntu
[21:51] <ComradeHaz`> Debian and windows both work
[21:51] <tank_> hey all, i have a question regarding x sessions: I would like to know how to run a full screen application (nexuiz for now, hopefully wine games down the road) in its own X session. I have heard that this gives better performance, but I mainly want to do it so I can switch between the fullscreen app and my main x session
[21:51] <ComradeHaz`> but Ubuntu refuses to show me a display output
[21:51] <spid3rxx> ok but i need some help
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> spid3rxx: backtrack is only based on ubuntu, ust like ubuntu users do not get support in debian channel
[21:52] <tank_> how would I go about doing that
[21:52] <theixle> actionparsnip: Find network printer with me just putting the name of the windows machine doesn't find it
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> spid3rxx: ask in #backtrack-linux then
[21:52] <spid3rxx> no they dont toke like ...
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> spid3rxx: if you want help in the official channel you must install an official canonical release rather than some homebrew release
[21:52] <Katsumi32> spid3rxx, what sort of help do you need?
[21:53] <Aemaeth> what was spid3rxx question?
[21:53] <spid3rxx> i need to get conncted using vpn
[21:53] <spid3rxx> on back track 4
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> theixle: have you asked in #kubuntu
[21:53] <marcos> ok
[21:53] <theixle> How do I post screenshots easily again?
[21:53] <erUSUL> !screenshot > theixle
[21:53] <spid3rxx> plese
[21:53] <theixle> actionparsnip: Not yet, I didn't want to have to start over with someone
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> theixle: press printscreen :)
[21:53] <jlaroche> i am trying to modify my choices in grub 2, but am having trouble. I simply want to remove something that the grub auto-os locator thingy insists on putting in my boot menu
[21:53] <Katsumi32> theixle, use take screenshot
[21:53] <Aemaeth> and then host on any image hoster
[21:54] <Katsumi32> u can paste it at picpaste
[21:54] <theixle> I have the files, what site is the one for posting tho
[21:54] <marcos> lookpic.com
[21:54] <Aemaeth> any image host
[21:54] <haywardgb> theixle: http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[21:54] <spid3rxx> i need help
[21:54] <winterelf> hey there, i just installed ubuntu 10.04 , and install the "docky" ... i understand that it is not the same as gnome-do, but there is nothing on the web about it, i have no idea how to add "google search" like we have in gnome-do , and stuff like that, there is a build in programs and that's it, it's very minimal
[21:54] <winterelf> have any idea?
[21:54] <etheretic> tst
[21:54] <Aemaeth> spid3rxx, i don't really know vpn, if you use the nm-applet then it has settings there
[21:54] <spid3rxx> ok
[21:55] <haywardgb> !screenshot
[21:55] <connie> |help user
[21:55] <connie> net stat
[21:55] <Aemaeth> and check apt for vpn software if you're lacking it
[21:55] <connie> x |name
[21:55] <xport> |port x
[21:55] <xport> channel admin
[21:55] <xport> port canevral
[21:55] <thecdgg> winterelf, use awn is better
[21:55] <xport> usernet
[21:55] <xport> llkp
[21:55] <xport> password = netwerk
[21:55] <ComradeHaz`> [21:55:03] <ubottu> Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://tinyurl.com/imagebin and post a link to it. <--- I'll upload a black rectangle if it will get someone to actually give a monkeys about my issue! :D
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> thecdgg: better is an opinion so isnt concrete
[21:55] <spid3rxx> well this is the true
[21:55] <theixle> actionparsnip: http://imagebin.org/114667
[21:56] <winterelf> thecdgg, i'll check thanks
[21:56] <spid3rxx> i dont wante been tracable
[21:56] <thecdgg> ActionParsnip, sorry
[21:56] <jlaroche> i am trying to modify my choices in grub 2, but am having trouble. I simply want to remove something that the grub auto-os locator thingy insists on putting in my boot menu
[21:56] <theixle> actionparsnip: http://imagebin.org/114668
[21:56] <tank_> REPEAT: hey all, i have a question regarding x sessions: I would like to know how to run a full screen application (nexuiz for now, hopefully wine games down the road) in its own X session. I have heard that this gives better performance, but I mainly want to do it so I can switch between the fullscreen app and my main x session. How would I go about doing that?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> theixle: looks like the one in LXDE too
[21:56] <]Spectre[> hi,I've installed 10.04 on an asus x51r with ati xpress1100,it freeze up on the dm login,can you help me ?
[21:56] <spid3rxx> by the what you love guys on ubunttu
[21:57] <spid3rxx> i have try it for coupl days
[21:57] <spid3rxx> i found back track more scure
[21:57] <hihihi100> i need help with this:; hihihi100@hihihi100-laptop:~$ cp Downloads/alsa* /usr/src/alsa
[21:57] <hihihi100> cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/src/alsa/alsa-driver-1.0.23.tar.bz2': Permission denied
[21:57] <hihihi100> cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/src/alsa/alsa-lib-1.0.23.tar.bz2': Permission denied
[21:57] <hihihi100> cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/src/alsa/alsa-oss-1.0.17.tar.bz2': Permission denied
[21:57] <hihihi100> cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/src/alsa/alsa-utils-1.0.23.tar.bz2': Permission denied
[21:57] <FloodBot3> hihihi100: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:57] <hihihi100> ,
[21:58] <guntbert> spid3rxx: this channel is not for discussions
[21:58] <kreeper> my sound on my computer is not working and when i try to go to the sound settings it just says "Waiting for sound system to respond"
[21:58] <tank_> hihihi100: SUDO!
[21:58] <kreeper> what do i do
[21:58] <]Spectre[> no ma'am,we're musicians+
[21:58] <hihihi100> is anythin wrong with that connad kine?
[21:58] <llutz> hihihi100: sudo cp ....
[21:59] <]Spectre[> sudo ma godo
[21:59] <hihihi100> hihihi100@hihihi100-laptop:~$ sudo cp Downloads/alsa* /usr/src/alsa, like that? it appears to do nothing
[21:59] <Yerushalmi> Today on booting up I got a series of three "mounting failed: no such file or directory" error messages, "target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init", and an "(initramfs)" prompt. Can someone help me?
[21:59] <vacuoustruth_> join #javascript
[21:59] <hihihi100> i mean the next line shows just hihihi100@hihihi100-laptop:~$
[21:59] <hihihi100> is it done?
[22:00] <llutz> hihihi100: yes
[22:00] <Aemaeth> spid3rxx, to me for desktop use ubuntu offers a more well rounded setup, can still install everything backtrack has, it's just preset for their goals
[22:01] <spid3rxx> andthe command are they the sam
[22:01] <spid3rxx> or not
[22:01] <ComradeHaz`> Guys, is there another channel I can ask in for my issues with the insteller not displaying?
[22:01] <spid3rxx> i meen if i coulde loge into mysql
[22:01] <spid3rxx> ssh
[22:01] <theixle> actionparsnip: any ideas?
[22:01] <hihihi100>    tar jxvf alsa-driver-xxx.tar.bz2, do i have to put sudo too?
[22:02] <guntbert> spid3rxx:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> theixle: if you install samba on the client, it may help. It may add the samba option in the printer setup
[22:02] <hihihi100> it says tar: alsa-driver-1.0.23.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory   tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now   tar: Child returned status 2  tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[22:02] <llutz> hihihi100: your user won't have write-access to /usr/src
[22:02] <c4181> What does it mean if scroll lock and caps lock are flashing on my keyboard?
[22:02] <SubnucleoticPart> anyone here use oss the channel is deceased
[22:02] <haywardgb> c4181: self destruct sequence :(
[22:02] <hihihi100> so what do i have to do?
[22:02] <Aemaeth> spid3rxx, we can talk in pm, but no, i can't say for certain everything will work the same, and some of the software is hard to find off the backtrack install, so if it works for you keep it
[22:02] <erUSUL> c4181: "kernel panic" aka "BSOD of Linux"
[22:02] <theixle> actionparsnip: the client is the kubuntu machine right?
[22:02] <c4181> erUSUL What does that mean?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> hihihi100: why not just use the PPA?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> theixle: yes, trying to print to the print server
[22:03] <spid3rxx> but i love now more
[22:03] <guntbert> !ot | spid3rxx
[22:03] <erUSUL> c4181: the OS hanged; hard.
[22:03] <spid3rxx> i search for the secure and
[22:03] <hihihi100> ppa, will i find that in the software center?
[22:03] <erUSUL> !sysrq | c4181
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> hihihi100: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ricotz/unstable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:03] <spid3rxx> the asy to install
[22:04] <theixle> actionparsnip: What more do I need to do to setup samba in ubuntu than is setup by deafult?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> hihihi100: a PPA is a 3rd party repo, someone has already compiled it so you dont have to
[22:04] <tank_> hey all, i have a question regarding x sessions: I would like to know how to run a full screen application (nexuiz for now, hopefully wine games down the road) in its own X session. I have heard that this gives better performance, but I mainly want to do it so I can switch between the fullscreen app and my main x session. How would I go about doing that?
[22:04] <spid3rxx> how
[22:04] <c4181> erUSUL Is this a big problem and if so how do I fix it?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> theixle: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf to make sure the system is in the same workgroup as the windows system
[22:04] <Yerushalmi> Can somebody help me? My computer won't boot up and keeps giving me cannot-mount messages.
[22:04] <shcherbak> tank_ simple
[22:05] <prov> Installation is becoming a problem for me in ubuntu and the best way I can describe it is just to paste the error output to paste bin-http://paste.ubuntu.com/496077/ Python has not given me problems before and I know it is installed or at least was at some time but I did nothing to remove it. Anyone have any leads for me as to what is going on? I am using ubuntu 10.04.
[22:05] <Aemaeth> spid3rxx, really with apt-get you should be able to get everything anyone else has
[22:05] <erUSUL> c4181: when it happened? happened more than once?
[22:05] <shcherbak> tank_ go to console (alt F6 or sth) and type xinit -- :1 vt8
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: boot to livecd and fsck your partitions
[22:05] <ComradeHaz`> Guys, my graphics card keeps dropping to a mode that is outside the displayable range of my monitors. It does this during install for ubuntu and after install  in debian but is fine under Windoze. PLEASE can I have some help with this. Been tryiong to sort this for hours :'(
[22:05] <kreeper> I think I may have uninstalled my sound package what would the package name be?
[22:05] <spid3rxx> let try
[22:05] <shcherbak> tank_ it will open xtem with new server
[22:05] <shcherbak> tank_ run whatever u want
[22:06] <tank_> shcherbak allright, lemme try that.
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> ComradeHaz`: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[22:06] <Jordan_U> ComradeHaz`: What graphics card?
[22:06] <spid3rxx> nothing all
[22:06] <c4181> erUSUL I was here earlier because of a problem upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04 and I have no clue how long it has been like that. I saw that, left it like it was, and came here.
[22:06] <hihihi100> im a noob
[22:06] <tank_> shcherbak, do I have to switch to a terminal session to do that, or can i do that in bash?
[22:06] <shcherbak> tank_ ups Alt Ctrl F6 !!!
[22:06] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: *worried* Last time I did that it found a huge number of errors and asked me hundreds of times to y/n corrections. I yessed them all and still couldn't boot up at the end. Had to wipe my hard drive. Is that usual?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> ComradeHaz`: windows is a different OS so what it does or doesnt do is of zero value
[22:06] <spid3rxx> i back track 2 the was vpn
[22:06] <ComradeHaz`> Of course it is of value. It tells us the GPU isn't hosed.
[22:07] <erUSUL> c4181: so what is the problem ; exactly? you can not reboot the machine?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: sounds like a bad drive, the fsck may help. I'd also get the ultimate boot CD and test the drive with the manufacturers tool
[22:07] <spid3rxx> but now its harder to get it
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> ComradeHaz`: very unlikely as you can see the bootup before the OS even loads
[22:07] <kreeper> i g2g i'll bbl
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> ComradeHaz`: the system wont even POST if the GPU is fried
[22:07] <c4181> erUSUL I have no control over it. Should I shut it down by holding in the power button/
[22:07] <c4181> .
[22:08] <spid3rxx> i was booting my ubunttu on vmare player
[22:08] <shcherbak> tank_ u may do in from gnome or kde but u need change configuration
[22:08] <erUSUL> c4181: yes or try the key combo i told you earlier
[22:08] <spid3rxx> like that i dont need for
[22:08] <erUSUL> !sysrq | c4181
[22:08] <guntbert> !u | shcherbak
[22:08] <spid3rxx> unetbooting
[22:08] <c4181> erUSUL Thanks! Will try.
[22:08] <erUSUL> !sysrq | c4181
[22:09] <spid3rxx> isoburn
[22:09] <erUSUL> c4181: there
[22:09] <theixle> actionparsnip: How do I found out what workgroup the windows system is in?
[22:09] <shcherbak> ubottu y?
[22:09] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: It's not really a drive per se, I run my computer off an SD card.
[22:09] <SubnucleoticPart> reisu and b
[22:09] <SubnucleoticPart> while holding alt + prsc
[22:09] <xbonesx> are there any backend programs you have to have in order to get pop3 to work with evolution?
[22:09] <theixle> actionparsnip: And is this what I modify in smb.conf? " workgroup = WORKGROUP "
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> theixle: right click my computer -> properties -> computer name tab
[22:10] <caution> what version of python does ubuntu 8 have?
[22:10] <caution> is there a site where I can find that out?
[22:10] <erUSUL> !info python hardy
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: its the same to Linux, its a block device just like a platter based drive.
[22:10] <shcherbak> hoe to make alias in irssi to convert u in you?
[22:11] <shcherbak> how*
[22:11] <Jordan_U> Yerushalmi: SD cards can often go bad fairly quickly, you might just have a bad card.
[22:11] <caution> !info python 9
[22:11] <caution> !info python jaunty
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: the boot option should make the video failsafe and should boot ok
[22:11] <theixle> actionparsnip: Ok, the winXP computer is in workgroup: WORKGROUP
[22:11] <euptc> does ubuntu take advantage of multi-core processors?
[22:11] <theixle> same as what's in smb.conf
[22:11] <Aemaeth> Jordan_U, i have an sd card that likes to scramble my mp3's into each other :D FUN!!
[22:12] <theixle> actionparsnip: Didn't have to change anything
[22:12] <guntbert> shcherbak: please don't use abreviated english - thats why I told ubottu to send you a factoid
[22:12] <caution> !info python hardy-backports
[22:12] <euptc> !info multicore
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[22:13] <dispewtyik> escape velocity
[22:13] <dispewtyik> shrew city
[22:13] <Aemaeth> yea?
[22:13] <guntbert> dispewtyik: wrong window?
[22:13] <dispewtyik> lsd chemyc!
[22:13] <Aemaeth> tell me more, dispewtyik
[22:13] <c4181> erUSUL Shut down by power button. Result [        2.796364] Kernal Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[22:13] <dispewtyik> uki.net |oleilw*PHONE
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> theixle: ok thats cool, has the samba print been added to your print options now?
[22:14] <dispewtyik> power werth |wraith,
[22:14] <shcherbak> gnutgert is picky, but ok. no more "u"
[22:14] <guntbert> dispewtyik: stop that please
[22:14] <dispewtyik> drug hinesty
[22:14] <dispewtyik> shrew grew
[22:14] <erUSUL> c4181: :( maybe something wrong with grub conf
[22:14] <dispewtyik> |procrat, x
[22:14] <Stas797> Hi all I`ve a mayb
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[22:15] <dispewtyik> skat puild |px
[22:15] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: What do you mean, video? I'm afraid I didn't understand that sentence at all...
[22:15] <c4181> erUSUL What do I do about it. The first thing happened sometime during or after upgrade. If you know how it will make this a whole lot eaiser if you can tell me how to install 9.04 from CD to external hard drive.
[22:15] <theixle> actionparsnip: If by "has the samba print been added to your print options" you mean, does system->printing->add printer->windows via samba find the windows samba share, then no.
[22:16] <tank_> shcherbak: you're the man. now just for learning purposes, i know what the rest of the command means, but whats vt8?
[22:16] <erUSUL> c4181: i think that you are booting with hardy ( 8.04 ) kernel and that's why it fails... can you check in grub menu what kernel do you use to boot ?
[22:16] <xbonesx> is there a command line for listing hardware drivers installed???
[22:16] <c4181> erUSUL Sure.
[22:16] <craigbass1976> I'm trying to plan out an app I'm writing, and my whiteboard isn't big enough.  Are there any apps in the repos that will allow me to do something like a bunch of sticky notes that I can draw lines to and from
[22:17] <Aemaeth> craigbass1976, there are a couple sticky note programs
[22:17] <haywardgb> craigbass1976: just google mind mapping for ubuntu ;)
[22:17] <c4181> erUSUL There is a lot of 10.04 kernals
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: does the install CD boot to a black screen?
[22:18] <erUSUL> c4181: 2.6.32.something?
[22:18] <craigbass1976> haywardgb, mind mapping...
[22:18] <Stas797> hi all, i`ve a question, looked up but fount nothing - i have an aspire one but no bluetooth, but still i have a bluetooth led and the most interessting a bar (button) to turn bluetooth on and off- when i use the bar my screen gets lighter - so my question is - is there a way to controle whats happening when i use the button (e.g. start terminal)?
[22:18] <haywardgb> craigbass1976: mind mapping software does exactly what you're looking for!
[22:18] <c4181> erUSUL That is at the top
[22:18] <xbonesx> I've been reading loads of threads with this same problem but their all out-dated and for versions other than lucid??? help please
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: if the device is making noises about data loss it may be failing, SD cards only have a limited number of writes, is the card old?
[22:19] <shcherbak> tank_ vt - vittual terminal -- from 1 to 6 for text (mostly) 7 and rest for x (mostly)
[22:19] <pys_enam> my ubuntu failed on updates. so what should i do now ? i have to format it ?
[22:19] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Haven't tried it yet, but it never did before.
[22:19] <haywardgb> craigbass1976: you might also consider open source project management software?
[22:19] <craigbass1976> haywardgb, It sounds it, I'd just have never thought those were the words I'd be searching for.  I was thinking markerboard.  :)
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> theixle: if you are using xfce you could ask in #xubuntu too
[22:19] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Yeah, it's pretty old. And this happens every so often. It could seriously be dying?
[22:19] <craigbass1976> haywardgb, I don't think it's ready for project management yet; I'm still in the "pull things out of ...." stage
[22:19] <tank_> shcherbak: so I should incorporate that into launch scripts for my fullscreen programs?
[22:20] <haywardgb> craigbass1976: the application I use is called Freemind
[22:20] <Aemaeth> i know one of the popular sticky note programs had a line feature, so you can get that schizophrenic beautiful mind thing going.
[22:20] <Yerushalmi> The reason I use the SD card rather than the internal drive is that the internal drive is too small to have both my OS and a swap file, and Ubuntu refuses to use a swap file on an SD card.
[22:20] <shcherbak> tank_ xinit - start x (! check man) -- :1 sending x to new display (echo $DISPLAY)
[22:20] <theixle> actionparsnip: Yeah, but shouldn't this be pretty standard across WM's. The ubuntu/kubuntu tutorials are all identical for finding shared windows printers.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: could be, they only have so man writes (but unlimited reads)
[22:21] <spid3rxx> when i coulde found ubuntu totu
[22:21] <tank_> shcherbak: whats that? and wouldnt startx start gnome?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> theixle: do you have smbclient installed
[22:21] <c4181> erUSUL 2.6.32-21-Generic is at the top.
[22:21] <Yerushalmi> Wikipedia says 100,000 times.
[22:22] <Yerushalmi> I'm trying to figure out if that's a lot or a little...
[22:22] <craigbass1976> haywardgb, That's what I was about to install.  We sell 4x8 foot sheets of markerboard at the lumber yard where I work, I just hadn't gotten round to stuffing one in my chevy cobalt yet...  THank you, in advance, for the app idea; this might be what I'm after
[22:22] <erUSUL> c4181: i've seen people fixing it by installing grub2 ...http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9777404
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: depends how much hammer you give it etc
[22:22] <theixle> actionparsnip: samba is already the newest version.
[22:22] <Yerushalmi> Maybe I'll buy myself a new one and do a simple copyover of everything...
[22:22] <erUSUL> c4181: from a livecd chrrot into the install
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> theixle: what about smbclient
[22:22] <shcherbak> tank_ well, if you need, to start second gnome type startx
[22:22] <haywardgb> craigbass1976: good luck, glad I was of some help.  i love mind mapping :)
[22:22] <c4181> erUSUL I might try it but I think I just go from CD and hope it work.
[22:23] <Aemaeth> Yerushalmi, luckily flash cards are getting cheaper, look into setting them up in a raid array if you can get more than one installed at one time
[22:23] <erUSUL> c4181: ok
[22:23] <shcherbak> tank_ that what?
[22:23] <theixle> actionparsnip: Yeah, already newest version too
[22:23] <tank_> shcherbak: xinit - start x (! check man) -- :1 sending x to new display (echo $DISPLAY)
[22:24] <craigbass1976> haywardgb, well, eventually sticky notes come unstuck and blow away (dogs and kids in the house) so this will be better anyway.
[22:24] <samuelkadolph> Anyone know why my vim would start inserting newlines after I type a space then start typing again?
[22:24] <Stas797> where to start if i want to disable or reconfigure some hardware buttons on my netbook? (ubuntu 10.10)
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> theixle: hmm, i'd ask in #xubuntu they may know a thing or 3
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> !shortcuts | Stas797
[22:24] <erUSUL> samuelkadolph: #vim ?
[22:24] <tank_> shcherbak: also, something weird is going on with this. now ive launched nexuiz in another x session, and it works. problem is, sound doesnt play in its xsession, instead, it seems to be playing in my current session
[22:24] <Yerushalmi> Hmm. I'll think about it. Thanks for the help :)
[22:25] <Aemaeth> can't wait to see what freemind is
[22:25] <shcherbak> tank_ just explanation xinit is starting server, -- :1 direct it to new display (if you try 0 then server will terminate)
[22:25] <Stas797> ActionParsnip - No I mean HardwareButtons - e.g. WiFi button
[22:25] <realubot> How do I get the deafult Ubuntu window borders working on Wine applications too? The option in winecfg doesn't seem to work.
[22:25] <haywardgb> Aemaeth: It's a mind mapping tool for linux !
[22:25] <xbonesx> SIGMATEL STAC 92XX C-Major HD Audio <---- need help getting any kind of driver to work with this
[22:25] <tank_> shcherbak: kk
[22:25] <erUSUL> xbonesx: laptop ?
[22:26] <shcherbak> tank_ vt8 in the end saying where your new server is (Alt Ctrl F8)
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> Stas797: if you run: xev   does it make an event?
[22:26] <xbonesx> erUSUL: yes
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> realubot: i'd ask in #wine
[22:26] <d4v1d04> Anyone here got an n680-based motherboard with SATA harddrives?
[22:26] <erUSUL> !intelhda | xbonesx
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | d4v1d04
[22:26] <shcherbak> tank_ you can run as many x as you want
[22:26] <hihihi100> i installed the ppa, does that mean I dont have to follow the instructions found at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Quick_Install ?
[22:26] <anygivenname> hi....when I click a file & it opens a window so I must select the right application to run that file....how do I reach the exe file of that application ?
[22:26] <tank_> shcherbak: kk, thanks very much so far, but now theres this annoying sound issue
[22:26] <BLZbubba> is it possible to install ubuntu onto an iscsi device that can boot via PXE?
[22:26] <Stas797> ActionParsnip - yes
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> hihihi100: its installed and ready to rock
[22:27] <erUSUL> xbonesx: also installing « linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic » wont hurt
[22:27] <d4v1d04> Ok, does anyone here have any issues running ubuntu on an nvidia n680-based motherboard with sata hdds?
[22:27] <tank_> shcherbak: all the sound from both sessions (main session and nexuiz session) is playing in the main session, and theres no sound in the nexuiz session
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> Stas797: then you can jump into the keyboard settings and apply the press to one of the items in there
[22:27] <hihihi100> k, action, but I still have the problem that prompted me to reinstall, I cannot hear any sound,a dn it seems ALSA does not recognize my SIS azalea soundcard
[22:27] <tank_> shcherbak: what can be the problem there?
[22:27] <guntbert> d4v1d04: don't ask if others have issues, tell us your problem
[22:28] <hihihi100> could u take a look at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=cdee2e41f06f41f9f47daf0ca11ff9e28190b132 ?
[22:28] <shcherbak> tank_ yes, have same trouble.
[22:28] <erUSUL> tank_: everytrhing is being routed through man session pulseaudio
[22:28] <shugart> BLZbubba: look into etherboot.org
[22:28] <anygivenname> hi....when I click a file & it opens a window so I must select the right application to run that file....how do I reach the exe file of that application ?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> !sound | hihihi100
[22:29] <d4v1d04> guntbert: I don't have a problem at the moment, I'm wondering if it's worth downloading/installing knowing that I've had SRST failures on boot before with older versions of ubuntu
[22:29] <shugart> BLZbubba: you can do it with a little tuning and gPXE from the etherboot guys
[22:29] <maco> hihihi100: reinstalling wont fix a lack of driver support. you can try installing linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic (assuming 10.04 or -karmic-generic if 9.10)
[22:29] <shcherbak> tank_ b4 playing have to kill flash plugin and restart pulseaudio, still searching for a sound fix
[22:29] <theixle> actinoparsnip: Should wins support be enabled in smb.conf?
[22:29] <realubot> ActionParsnip: Ok, thanks.
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> anygivenname: there is no exe, that is a windows construct. Linux has binarys and most are present in /usr/bin
[22:29] <xbonesx> erUSUL: figured it out, but do you know how to get pop3 working with evolution?
[22:29] <tank_> shcherbak: k thx dude. ill try to help as much as I can.
[22:29] <anygivenname> i meant the file liek the exe in windows
[22:29] <Jay-> hello
[22:30] <BLZbubba> shugart: is it part of the install process, or do i have to install a system and then cobble together the rest?
[22:30] <tank_> erUSUL: know any fixes?
[22:30] <theixle> actionparsnip: (I'm asking in #xubuntu #kubuntu as well atm)
[22:30] <maco> hihihi100: that package will pull in a newer alsa driver which *may* add support for the device
[22:30] <s3a> in thunderbird, what does "use global inbox" mean?
[22:30] <neriukas> !hello
[22:30] <hihihi100> linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic, thats what I need, cause no matter what, the sound icon always appears as muted, and it still doesnt recognize my sis azalea soundcard
[22:30] <erUSUL> tank_: no; sorry.
[22:30] <hihihi100> synaptic?
[22:30] <BLZbubba> shugart: ah nice
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> anygivenname: its a binary in linux. its also what they are in windows but people call them exes as that is the file extension, file extensions dont mean much in linux
[22:30] <tank_> erUSUL: ty anyway
[22:30] <shugart> BLZbubba: you basically will make a bootable ubuntu image and then use PXE to direct it from the DHCP host.
[22:30] <erUSUL> xbonesx: should just work... gmail account?
[22:31] <xbonesx> erUSUL: yahoo
[22:31] <guntbert> d4v1d04: I see - I only can tell you that I haven't heard of any problems but that doesn't mean there aren't any - ask in the forums - or just try it out :-)
[22:31] <xbonesx> i got the address for incoming and out going but it doesnt sync any of the mail
[22:31] <erUSUL> xbonesx: yahoo allows pop3 access now?
[22:31] <Jay-> after upgrading to 10.10 my wireless card stopped being able to connect to my home network (worked previously in 10.04) according to lspci i have a RaLink RT2860
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> !10.10 | jay-
[22:32] <oTeam0> what extension have an exploit?
[22:32] <BLZbubba> shugart: nice, you can replace the built in PXE
[22:32] <d4v1d04> ok guntbert, I'll see if I can get a USB-based ISO, thanks
[22:32] <xbonesx> it works from my palm pre... which is linux based...
[22:33] <xbonesx> erUSUL: it works from my palm pre... which is linux based...
[22:33] <shugart> BLZbubba: yep, and get really custom with it, such as iscsi, AoE, FC, or http
[22:33] <Jay-> ActionParsnip, that would mean something if people were talking in that channel
[22:33] <guntbert> d4v1d04: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[22:33] <hiexpo> ola all
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Jay-: maverick is offtopic here
[22:34] <guntbert> d4v1d04: or better https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[22:34] <Jay-> ActionParsnip, ok well thanks for nothing then
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Jay-: no problem
[22:34] <Flannel> Jay-: People are in that channel, they may be AFK at the moment, or asleep, or whatnot.  But you'll eventually get an answer.
[22:34] <erUSUL> xbonesx: accornding to the web it should just work (tm)
[22:34] <erUSUL> xbonesx: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/08/11/how-to-set-up-evolution-for-email/
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Jay-: it even told you in the room message when you joined...
[22:35] <d4v1d04> guntbert: thanks very much :D
[22:36] <tank_> shcherbak: do you think theres a way to just have it play all sound on all x sessions?
[22:36] <tank_> shcherbak: instead of just doing it session by session?
[22:37] <EvilPhoenix> question
[22:37] <Gnea> answer
[22:37] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> Is there any website which provides access to the official kernel configuration files of Ubuntu?
[22:37] <EvilPhoenix> how can I have something load so it shows in lsmod even if the corresponding device is not connected
[22:37] <Gnea> sh4d3sl4y3r_: what for? they're in /boot/ already
[22:38] <Gnea> EvilPhoenix: what's the point?
[22:38] <tank_> sh4d3sl4y3r_ Gnea: yeah they don't call it an open source OS for nothing
[22:38] <Merritt> Updates seem to have frozen setting up a new kernel. Can anyone tell me the safe way to deal with this? Just kill it and restart updates, or..? http://picpaste.com/pics/update-fail-iBPioYNV.1284845951.png Thanks!
[22:38] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> no I am asking an archive of all the versions. like Debian does
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> EvilPhoenix: its a waste of resources but you can modprobe the modules you wish
[22:38] <EvilPhoenix> Gnea:  USB device that I might plug in after boot
[22:38] <shcherbak> tank_ some player works below x (mocp mpd), so no problem with it, but some application need to be stopped (flash gnome-player)
[22:38] <erUSUL> EvilPhoenix: sudo modprobe something
[22:38] <a> Hi
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> !hi | a
[22:39] <a> I need help with ubuntu 10.04 and an ati xpress1100
[22:39] <Gnea> EvilPhoenix: you could write an rc.local to load them, or add them to /etc/modprobe.d/
[22:39] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> Gnea: something like this I am looking for. http://merkel.debian.org/~jurij/
[22:39] <a> Running ubuntu 10.04 in video safe mode ubuntu works ok
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> a: you will get notified every time someone says a sentence like the one I am typing as it has a in it
[22:39] <aguitel> whrn i launch hardware drivers it say:Downloading package indexes failed, please check your network status. Most drivers will not be available. how fix this ?
[22:39] <a> When I run it in normal mode,the dm freeze up
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> a: does the screen go black?
[22:40] <a> ActionParsnip,no it freeze up on the dm login
[22:40] <xbonesx> erUSUL: evolution says error while fetching... ?
[22:41] <erUSUL> xbonesx: really dunno; works for me with gmail account
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> a: what video card do you use?
[22:41] <a> Ati xpress1100
[22:41] <Gnea> sh4d3sl4y3r_: that's a good question. I'm not sure if one exists, and if it did, what the url would be.
[22:41] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> hmm
[22:42] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> this thing is very useful who wants to see how the stocks are made of
[22:42] <hiexpo> hello ActionParsnip  / Gnea  / guntbert
[22:42] <aguitel>  erUSUL ,launch hardware drivers it say:Downloading package indexes failed, please check your network status. Most drivers will not be available. how fix this ?
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: yo
[22:42] <a> ActionParsnip,it would be ok for me to run ubuntu in the fail safe x video mode,but I don't know how to configure it in the ubuntu "normal mode"
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> a: if you install the proprietary driver then reboot, is it ok
[22:42]  * Sansui350A = ShawnDBruce in the forums.. you all suck.. xD
[22:43] <TheLimeRunner> I like chicken
[22:43] <Gnea> hiexpo: good evening
[22:43] <guntbert> !ot | TheLimeRunner
[22:43] <TheLimeRunner> How do I cook chicken with Ubuntu?
[22:43] <a> AcionParsnip,so System>Administration>Synaptic>fglrx,and reboot ?
[22:44] <hiexpo> tha\nx all back atcha
[22:44] <TheLimeRunner> No help?
[22:44] <Gnea> Sansui350A: we do? :)
[22:44] <guntbert> hiexpo: :)
[22:44] <coafcv> I want to update from 9.04 to 10.04, however, I will make a fresh install and copy the application-specific folders from my old home folder to the new one. could this cause problems (e.g. if the format of config files changed from app versions in 9.04 to 10.04)? I'm talking about Apps like Firefox, Opera, Mozilla Thunderbird, XChat, etc.
[22:44] <fuorviatos> hello
[22:44] <TheLimeRunner> You fucking cunt heads.
[22:44] <erUSUL> !ot | TheLimeRunner
[22:44] <Gnea> TheLimeRunner: we don't need you.
[22:44] <erUSUL> !ops | TheLimeRunner
[22:44] <user01> hi i thought id try a fresh install, and i forgot my home directory was encrypted . . . how do i decrypt it after a fresh install?
[22:44] <erUSUL> tsimpson: sorry
[22:44] <tank_> shcherbak: http://www.nexuizninjaz.com/forum/Thread-How-to-Running-Nexuiz-without-a-Window-Manager.html
[22:44] <a> [A[A[A[A[A[A[A[A[A[A[A[A[A[A[A[A[A[A[A[A[A[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B
[22:44] <songer> a: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[22:44] <Sansui350A> Gnea, most of the support for Ubuntu sucks.. or they just don't care...
[22:44] <a> thanks
[22:45] <maco> a: please don't do that
[22:45] <tank_> shcherbak: think i found something regarding our sound issue in there
[22:45] <fuorviatos> hello
[22:45] <Gnea> Sansui350A: really? that's a fact?
[22:45] <EvilPhoenix> using modprobe... is it just modprobe <mod name> to load it, or is it something else
[22:45] <hiexpo> !language
[22:45] <guntbert> user01: I hope you recorded the passphrase
[22:45] <fuorviatos> Can anybody help me with chroot?
[22:45] <tank_> shcherbak: xterm -e alsamixer
[22:45] <Sansui350A> Gnea, yup.. seen it happen MANY times.. heh
[22:45] <user01> guntbert: i know what it was i think yes
[22:45] <Gnea> Sansui350A: then you haven't been on irc much, have you?
[22:45] <jlaroche> does anyone in here use cairo dock by any chance?
[22:45] <tank_> shcherbak: put that into a startup script, perhaps?
[22:45] <jrib> I AM YELLING
[22:45] <[thor]> jlaroche: i am using it,ues
[22:46] <Sansui350A> Gnea, I used to sit in here days on end.. IRC isn't THAT bad.. forums SUCK though..
[22:46] <[thor]> s/ues/yes
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> EvilPhoenix: modprobe will load the module you name, the opposite is rmmod
[22:46] <Gnea> Sansui350A: if you only rely on one or the other, yes
[22:46] <guntbert> user01: I'm not talking about the user password, the passphrase is a verylong, random sequence of characters
[22:46] <EvilPhoenix> got it
[22:46] <EvilPhoenix> thanks
[22:46] <user01> guntbert: ah no  . . . probably not then
[22:46] <shcherbak> tank_ worth to try, thx a lot
[22:46] <maco> ActionParsnip: i thought "modprobe -r" was more recommended because of dependency resolution... same reason for modprobe over insmod
[22:46] <IdleOne> TESTTESTTESTTESTTESTTESTTESTTESTTESTTESTTEST
[22:46] <songer> IdleOne: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[22:47] <erUSUL> maco: it is;
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> maco: wasnt aware, thought it was synonymous
[22:47] <maco> !es | songer
[22:47] <maco> IdleOne: what are you doing?
[22:47] <Sansui350A> Gnea, meh.. I said my qualms on the forum.. and I run Arch and Fedora 13/14 now.. though I DO have Mint 9 Gnome on one machine..
[22:47] <guntbert> user01: then you are out of luck - sorry
[22:47] <yacc> Hmmm, any known problems with firefox in Lucid? I'm getting Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 466: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xffffffff) == 8' failed!
[22:47] <guntbert> Sansui350A: please keep to the topic
[22:47] <tank_> shcherbak: imma use the script they put up, see if it works.
[22:47] <yacc> instead of a firefox when I try to run it.
[22:47] <Sansui350A> guntbert, eat me
[22:48] <mattgyver> just bought a laptop with an ati radeon card inside, graphics and desktop effects work fine, any reason to install the proprietary drivers?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> yacc: tried the mozilla ppa?
[22:48] <Gnea> Sansui350A: you know, if something works for you, then stick with it and enjoy. maybe if you didn't have such a bad attitude people would respect you more. sadly, you have not earned mine.
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> mattgyver: if its not broke, dont fix it
[22:48] <mattgyver> ActionParsnip, you think like me :)
[22:49] <symualr> hi.. anyone can explain what is lsmod
[22:49] <maco> symualr: lists all currently loaded kernel modules
[22:49] <yacc> ActionParsnip, I'm just doing that now, no it's the standard ff from lucid 10.04.1 that bombs for me :(
[22:49] <user01> guntbert: so it wouldnt be in the "wrapped-passphrase" file?
[22:49] <mattgyver> symualr, it lists modules in use.  check man lsmod
[22:49] <Sansui350A> Gnea, I used to be nice about Ubuntu's stuff. .bit ubu-fail pissed me off.. meh.. judge all you want.. you'll never have the pleasure of knowing who I really am
[22:49] <sebsebseb> Hi
[22:49] <tsimpson> Sansui350A: keep on topic or move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:49] <symualr> oh. thx
[22:49] <NAeto> hello
[22:49] <guntbert> user01: it would be there - I didn't know that you had that :-)
[22:49] <NAeto> i have big problem
[22:49] <erUSUL> Sansui350A: modest type you are ;)
[22:49] <notworking> hello
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> yacc: no idea about the error, i ditched firefox years ago
[22:50] <NAeto> anyone speak italian?
[22:50] <Gnea> Sansui350A: I can see why you had problems with it now.  anyway, you know where the door is. :)
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> !it | NAeto
[22:50] <oTeam0> how i can make my ip static?
[22:50] <IdleOne> erUSUL: could you please join -ops
[22:50] <Katsumi32> Sansui350A, everything ok ?
[22:50] <Sansui350A> Gnea, meh..
[22:50] <Sansui350A> Katsumi32, noes
[22:50] <yacc> ActionParsnip, so what are you using then?
[22:50] <Sansui350A> Katsumi32, thanks for asking though.. xD
[22:50] <Katsumi32> Sansui350A,  see my prv message
[22:50] <notworking> my tunapie2 isnt working right... It downloads all music but I cant hear anything 10.04 vol up
[22:50] <avis> http://throwourlivesawayforonehappyday.us/
[22:51] <notworking> vlc in preferences
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> yacc: arora and chromium daily
[22:51] <guntbert> user01: please see http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7568 for a really nice tutorial
[22:51] <yacc> ActionParsnip, well chromium is not that bad, although the adblock support is still not that good, ...
[22:51] <spid3rxx> how to use vpnc on back track or ubuntu
[22:51] <NAeto> thx
[22:51] <enetic> Hello everyone :) im new here :P
[22:52] <spid3rxx> help pro
[22:52] <Gnea> !hello
[22:52] <hiexpo> enetic, ask you ? all in one line thanks
[22:52] <user01> guntbert: all i did was rename user01 to olduser01 then nuked every thing not on the home partition
[22:52] <spid3rxx> how to use vpnc on back track or ubuntu
[22:52] <spid3rxx> help
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> yacc: not sure what that is but its not for everyone. Just got sick of appauling flash cpu / ram use, arora and chromium use a lot less resources in flash
[22:52] <spid3rxx> i a user to
[22:52] <spid3rxx> plese
[22:52] <symualr> maco, mattgyver : explain this for me please..
[22:52] <symualr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/496103/
[22:52] <spid3rxx> how to use vpnc on back track or ubuntu
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> spid3rxx: backtrack isnt supported here
[22:52] <enetic> hiexpo, sorry, what?
[22:53] <hiexpo> spid3rxx, #backtrack-liinux
[22:53] <spid3rxx> god plese
[22:53] <spid3rxx> i now
[22:53] <guntbert> spid3rxx: you have been told repeateldy that we don't support backtrack here
[22:53] <spid3rxx> but gest help me
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> spid3rxx: so why are you asking in here?
[22:53] <spid3rxx> how to use vpnc
[22:53] <jhambo> When USB fat32 drive is mounted through device notifier , it is mounted read-only.  I can't write to the drive even with sudo.  What is the command to mount the drive so that I can write to it??
[22:53] <spid3rxx> that all
[22:53] <andai> How is WMA file played?
[22:54] <hiexpo> enetic, just ask your ?
[22:54] <maco> spid3rxx: you run "sudo vpnc" and give it the info it asks for
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> jhambo: you may need to use some UIDs when mounting so that it isnt mounted writable by only root
[22:54] <jhambo> ActionParsnip: how do I do that
[22:54] <spid3rxx> i give the info but i stay in my location
[22:54] <mattgyver> symular, its basically showing that two modules 3 modules are curerntly loaded, I can only assume (and thats dangerous) from the description that its due to a usb device you have configured
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> !mount | jhambo
[22:55] <mattgyver> symualr, this might help; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lsmod
[22:55] <andai> VLC, Movie Player and Rhythmbox can't play my wma files. Why not?
[22:55] <jhambo> ActionParsnip: seems very odd that the ubuntu default is to mount it read only...
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> andai: if you install w32codecs and ubuntu-restrictd-extras you should be ok
[22:55] <symualr> thx mattgyver
[22:55] <Merritt> Updates seem to have frozen setting up a new kernel. Can anyone tell me the safe way to deal with this? Just kill it and restart updates, or..? http://picpaste.com/pics/update-fail-iBPioYNV.1284845951.png Thanks!
[22:55] <andai> ActionParsnip I have both
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> jhambo: root does the mounting, so it is owned by root
[22:56] <mattgyver> symualr, np, just curious; what are you trying to figure out?
[22:56] <hiexpo> !media > andai
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> andai: mplayer should be able to play it fine
[22:57] <fuorviatos> Why I don't have any connectivity when chrooting to an existing ubuntu installation from Live cd?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> fuorviatos: you didnt copy your /etc/resolv.conf over, you can populate the one in the chroot with: nameserver 8.8.8.8   and it should be ok
[22:58] <BFP> Hm, I installed the newest fglrx from x-swat and the install failed. Now I can't even remove it and use the version from the Ubuntu repositories, and get a "Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.32-24 generic" error. What do I have to do to get this working again?
[22:59] <fx> what are the steps to manually boot the system from initramfs (my root isnt mounting)
[23:00] <notworking> I cant get my tunapie t work.. settings vlc but no sound.. vol up.. downloads all stations
[23:00] <fuorviatos> ActionParsnip: So, you mean you must copy the resolve.conf always with chroot?
[23:00] <MaMoUs> Firefox sound stopped working with Music player, Ubuntu 10.04
[23:00] <[R]> fx: if you cant mount your root... how do you expect to boot?
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> fuorviatos: or you can populate the current one yourself manually
[23:00] <d4v1d04> is there a command to grab a package from launchpad, or do I need to find it manually on the site?
[23:01] <fx> [R], i mean it wont mount by itself, if i do mount /dev/vda /root from initramfs it mounts
[23:01] <MaMoUs> FireFox sound Stopped working with Music player or any thing, i have to run them each one alone, Ubuntu 10.04
[23:01] <hiexpo> wget the link
[23:01] <[R]> fx: so do that
[23:01] <fuorviatos> ActionParsnip: Just with a random IP address?
[23:01] <symualr> mattgyver, im trying to figure out which module is uselees
[23:01] <theixle> actinoparsnip: I've gotten no help from #kubuntu or #xubuntu, but I've been playing around with samba. When I run the command ' smbclient -L <windows name> ' it shows the windows machine and the printer. But it doesn't actually connect to the samba share.
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> fuorviatos: no, with ACTUAL DNS server IPs
[23:01] <d4v1d04> Never mind, I found it... (bzr) :P
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> fuorviatos: 8.8.8.8 is google's publi DNS server
[23:02] <fx> [R], then im stuck, /root/vmlinuz says permission denied (its chmodded -x for some reason), what do i do? should i be running /init at some point?
[23:02] <fuorviatos> ActionParsnip: Great. So, how come chroot doesn't provide this function?
[23:02] <[R]> fx: what do you mean vmlinuz is permission denied...?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> fuorviatos: its not chroots job, chroot just changes to the different environment. If there are no DNS servers defined there then that is not chroot's job to resolve
[23:03] <[R]> fx: you're not trying to execute the kernel are you...
[23:03] <erUSUL> mattgyver: no
[23:03] <erUSUL> mattgyver: sorry; misstyped
[23:04] <fx> [R], errrr...I came here for help, and your making me look like an idiot (its even worse because im not sure what i should be doing *with* the said kernel)
[23:04] <MaMoUs> any one please ?
[23:04] <[R]> fx: why would you do anything with a kernle... the kernel is already running
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> !sound | MaMoUs
[23:04] <fuorviatos> ActionParsnip: I get you, but why does the connection work with LiveCD and won't with chroot?
[23:04] <guntbert> user01: sorry, it took a while -- http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/03/mounting-your-encrypted-home-from.html  helps you to access the directory from another /a new system
[23:04] <[R]> fx: you should just be abel to exit out of the shell once you mmounted it properly
[23:05] <fx> [R], ^D ?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> fuorviatos: the dns has been applied to the livecd environment via dhcp, the OS you are chrooting to has not got the dhcp set dns, the resolv.conf is setup by network manager which isnt running in the chroot
[23:05] <[R]> fx: thats one way
[23:05] <fx> [R], its ok if i mount it ro? right? thats how its supposed to be?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> fuorviatos: if you use a static IP you will need to also define the DNS servers manually too, if you then chroot into this system the DNS servers will already be set
[23:06] <[R]> fx: it can be eitehr way
[23:07] <fx> [R], i should probably mention that i swapped disks on this machine, (pervious disk was sda, and boots fine, new one is vda)
[23:07] <[R]> fx: ubuntu uses uuid... so i dunno waht kind of broken hardware you have that its not "just working"
[23:08] <fx> [R], it might use UUIDs in fstab, but lilo still wants sda
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> [R]: it can use /dev/sdaX etc, it doesn't have to use UUID, it just solves a lot of headaches if you do
[23:08] <[R]> uh... a) lilo? b) lilo doesn't care what the hard drive is called... the kernel does
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> !lilo
[23:09] <[R]> fx: and somethign is seriously wrong if you are not using uuid on your kernel command line
[23:09] <jinxx> After installing ubuntu 10.04 updates just now, update-grub seems to have seriously messed up my triple boot.  It used to go: Ubuntu, Fedora, and Sabayon (edited in my /etc/grub.d/40_custom because ubuntu wouldn't detect it).  Now, it's pretty much all sabayon and my Fedora 13 kernels are listed as sabayon as well (and it tries to boot sabayon to a fedora kernel).  My /boot/grub/grub.cfg: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/nSpcLepQ -- can anybody help?
[23:09] <test34> what type of disks use VDA?
[23:09] <andai> is there any way to play wma files on x64 (without chroot etc?)
[23:10] <fx> ok back to beginning, i install 10.04, remove the disk, insert a different type of disk (with copied contents) and it drops me to initramfs (last time i fixed it by somehow booting the system and rerunning lilo with config root=/dev/vda1 and that)
[23:10] <fx> its pretty much vanilla install
[23:11] <Aemaeth> i found a program that will track pc if it's stolen, but problem i see with that is if it's stolen they wont be able to log into my system to activate program :/
[23:11] <[R]> Aemaeth: if its run from init... it doesnt matter
[23:11] <Aemaeth> what thief will boot up linux at all?
[23:12] <[R]> Aemaeth: how would they know?
[23:12] <ComradeHaz`> !nvidia binary
[23:12] <Quantum_Ion> Aemaeth, It is so eay to break into an Ubuntu Linux system
[23:12] <Aemaeth> but i figure a thief would install a copy of windows to sell it
[23:12] <[R]> Aemaeth: AFTER trying to boot it and steal your data
[23:12] <Aemaeth> maybe, i had one stolen by someone, they pawned it, didn't even check the system
[23:12] <tank_>  andai: vlc media player plays everything
[23:13] <test34> r, if they boot with a live cd it wont load
[23:13] <tank_> andai: sudo apt-get install vlc
[23:13] <[R]> Aemaeth: then that was a stupid theif
[23:13] <Aemaeth> they have to steal, they're not smart enough for that
[23:13] <Quantum_Ion> Aemaeth, A thief would steal your computer and part it out on Ebay
[23:14] <Aemaeth> try saying "live cd" in the streetz, i don't think people will suggest distros
[23:14] <test34> Aemaeth, just keep an eye on your laptop or insure it somehow
[23:14] <Quantum_Ion> Aemaeth, Thieves are smarter than you think
[23:14] <Aemaeth> some...
[23:14] <LemanHTC> Anyone got a lenovo ideacentre with ubuntu？
[23:14] <tank_> Aemaeth: do what I do. handcuff yourself to it.
[23:15] <Aemaeth> i put an RFID tag in my wrist, my computer doesn't unlock unless my wrist is near it
[23:15] <test34> Aemaeth, you could make it blow up if it's 20ft or more away
[23:15] <test34> (or when it looses RFID signal
[23:15] <Quantum_Ion> Aemaeth, All a thief needs is your hard drive and a screw driver
[23:15] <ComradeHaz`> Better still, make it 3 feet with a 3 mega-tonne explosion.
[23:15] <ComradeHaz`> Do us all a favour.
[23:16] <Aemaeth> well, it was a rhetorical question anyhow
[23:16] <test34> hehe ComradeHaz`
[23:16] <ComradeHaz`> Oh good. Can we ignore you then?
[23:16] <Aemaeth> i think thermites enough
[23:16] <Aemaeth> yea sure, mang, whatever you like
[23:16] <ComradeHaz`> :D
[23:16] <Quantum_Ion> Aemaeth, A thief would rather have an Android device nowadays lol
[23:17] <ComradeHaz`> Hi guys, just need a bit of a reminder on how to install nvidia binary drivers using command line only.
[23:17] <test34> Aemaeth, you would probably be better off with a gps tracker installed inside
[23:17] <will> How safe is a LiveCD when it comes to viruses/trojans/etc.?  Is it safer than an installed Ubuntu?  I know that few viruses are written for Linux (last I checked).
[23:17] <downloadfrenzy> hi all
[23:17] <[R]> will: nothing practical
[23:18] <thecdggseries> how to inactive the touchpad?
[23:18] <ComradeHaz`> Hammer?
[23:18] <[R]> will: and a livecd is a read-only (with an in ram r/w overlay) environment... so even if you get osmehting... reboot, boom its gone
[23:18] <Aemaeth> http://adeona.cs.washington.edu/ this is the program i was talking about...
[23:18] <tank_> will: don't be so paranoid. unless its a persistent live cd, you can't write to it
[23:18] <ComradeHaz`> [R], rootkits?
[23:18] <Quantum_Ion> Aemaeth, Ubuntu Linux really isnt all that secure try an OS like OpenBSD
[23:18] <[R]> ComradeHaz`: a rootkit isn't a virus...
[23:18] <[R]> ComradeHaz`: its you being a moron and doing things as root that you shodu'nt be
[23:18] <ComradeHaz`> A virus can run in a livecd environment and install a rootkit
[23:18] <Quantum_Ion> Aemaeth, Blame the Grub2 bootloader
[23:18] <thecdggseries> hello!!
[23:19] <test34> ComradeHaz`,  sudo apt-get install nvidia-173 ? maybe
[23:19] <Aemaeth> Quantum_Ion, wut? i didn't say anything i don't think
[23:19] <thecdggseries> how to inactive the touchpad?
[23:19] <fx> does fstab get touched during initramfs stage?
[23:19] <[R]> fx: fstab isn't used until init runs
[23:19] <fx> who runs init?
[23:19] <test34> Quantum_Ion, there is no secure OS
[23:20] <[R]> fx: the last thing in the intramfs
[23:20] <fx> then who mounts root fs?
[23:20] <Quantum_Ion> test34, OpenBSD is pretty secure when configured right
[23:20] <[R]> fx: the initramfs...
[23:20] <andai> I can't get WMA9 to playback on VLC (or mPlayer with medibuntu) on Lucid x64. But it works in VLC in WINE, lol.
[23:20] <[thor]> thecdggseries: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[23:20] <will> [R]:  can I remove the overlay environment?  Make it so NOTHING can be changed in system/application dirs (even in RAM)?
[23:20] <test34> Quantum_Ion, if you have physical access to a computer, it's not an OS that will stop someone
[23:20] <[R]> will: you can do whatever you want
[23:21] <Aemaeth> lol, i like that page, simply uninstall touchpad support, it's THAT EASY!
[23:22] <Quantum_Ion> test34, I can get root on an Ubuntu Linux system in 5 seconds if it is front of me
[23:22] <Quantum_Ion> test34, All I have to do is change a line in the Grub2 boot system
[23:22] <will> [R]:  I've successfully followed the LiveCD cusomization page to make my own LiveCD.  Is there some simple command I can run while chrooted, to remove the overlay environment?
[23:22] <fx> haha, booted the system, all i had to do is 'ln -s /dev/vda1 /dev/sda1 :P
[23:22] <test34> Quantum_Ion, thats what I just said.. you can do the same with any OS
[23:22] <guntbert> !ot | Quantum_Ion
[23:23] <Aemaeth> Quantum_Ion, but can you access my encrypted home drive? not even i know how to get to that sometimes
[23:23] <[R]> will: the initramfs is what sets it up... so you'll hav eto look into how it does it and if there is a switch to turn it off
[23:23] <will> thanks
[23:23] <Quantum_Ion> Aemaeth, lol
[23:23] <histo> Aemaeth: no one can get in your encrypted drive even with physical access to the machine
[23:23] <ItsYou> hello
[23:23] <douglas> #thegeekgroup
[23:24] <douglas> grr
[23:24] <douglas> i want to join #thegeekgroup
[23:24] <Aemaeth> there was that code i was supposed to write down, i lied to my computer when i said i would
[23:24] <yeastwars> is there a way to disable the bright red "!" notification icon for updates?
[23:24] <douglas> hey
[23:25] <[R]> yeastwars: you want to run an out of date and vulnerable system?
[23:25] <akshay> hello
[23:25] <yeastwars> [R]: no, I want gnome to stay out of the way and stop annoying me with visual clutter
[23:25] <dot> Is there a way i can change the screen alignment of my monitor in ubuntu?
[23:25] <akshay> any body working with AI bots
[23:25] <yeastwars> [R]: I update from the command line when I want to
[23:25] <Aemaeth> [R] i could see that happening, admins who say "NO MORE"
[23:25] <douglas> im using smuxi how do i join rooms
[23:25] <civis> welcome everybody
[23:25] <douglas> or find rooms
[23:25] <civis> i have a question
[23:25] <douglas> i want to join #thegeekgroup
[23:25] <Flannel> douglas: `/join #thegeekgroup` should work
[23:25] <guntbert> Aemaeth: but you can have it write the passphrase to a file any time you want (as long as you are "in" it)
[23:25] <fx> next question, in standard install of ubuntu-server 64bit, i get 'init: plymouth-log main process (509) terminated with status 1', considering this is  aheadless machine, i wouldnt mind plymouth gone.
[23:26] <douglas> thank you
[23:26] <civis> how can i reinstall grub on livecd?
[23:26] <Aemaeth> guntbert, how that?
[23:26] <yeastwars> [R]: there's a "Show notifications" thing in the right click menu, but it's already unchecke
[23:26] <yeastwars> d
[23:26] <[R]> fx: so remove it
[23:26] <[R]> yeastwars: in the "software sources" config
[23:26] <Aemaeth> [R], i know an admin who wouldn't update pidgin for his kids, he had that on lockdown
[23:26] <fx> [R], apt-get remove plymouth -- Bad Idea (tm)
[23:26] <[R]> yeastwars: there is a thing for automatic updates
[23:26] <[R]> fx: then ignore it
[23:26] <yeastwars> [R]: it's also off
[23:27] <coafcv> How would I reinstall grub after Windows selfishly placed its own 512 bytes in the MBR and make GRUB detect both my Linux and Windows partitions?
[23:27] <[R]> yeastwars: there might be an option in gconf for update-notifier
[23:27] <d4v1d04> why remove plymouth,  it's a nice place :P
[23:27] <fx> [R], everything seems to depend on it, but it still errors it
[23:27] <yeastwars> coafcv: from a live cd
[23:27] <erUSUL> !grub2 | coafcv
[23:27] <[R]> fx: so ignore it
[23:27] <akshay> any body has knowledge on AI bots
[23:27] <notworking> tunapie   Your input can't be opened:
[23:27] <notworking> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'http://85.236.103.28:6000'. Check the log for details.
[23:27] <notworking>   can someone help me
[23:27] <fx> [R], if you had a broken leg would you just 'ignore it' ?
[23:27] <[R]> fx: its not a broken leg...
[23:28] <fx> [R], then its a wood splinter
[23:28] <[R]> fx: remove quiet splash from the kernel line... it should stop plymouth
[23:28] <rogerio> can someone help me
[23:28] <guntbert> Aemaeth: type ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase
[23:29] <rogerio> I want to insttal games 3d
[23:29] <ComradeHaz`> Guys, I need to stop X but everytime I kill it (it's running at 100% cpu) is just comes back
[23:29] <yeastwars> [R]: I think I found it - "Update notifier" in startup applications. Not sure if it'll work, but it seems like a plausible solution (then again, unchecking Show notifications and Automatic updates also seemed like plausible solutions)
[23:29] <Aemaeth> ty
[23:29] <ejcweb> Can anyone tell me of a free font editor for Ubuntu? I just want to be able to view the individual glyphs.
[23:29] <step21> notworking: probablzy a network or server error? did you check the log_?
[23:29] <yeastwars> ComradeHaz`: kill gdm / kdm too
[23:29] <fx> [R], its suppose to be in /etc/lilo.conf right?
[23:29] <erUSUL> !info fontforge
[23:29] <guntbert> Aemaeth: see http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7568/2/ (you must register and login to see that page :-(  )
[23:29] <ComradeHaz`> I tried stopping gdm, but says stopping/waiting and doesn't seem to stop
[23:29] <notworking> step21 Im sorry but I dont know how
[23:29] <erUSUL> ComradeHaz`: add a « sudo pkill X »
[23:30] <yeastwars> you could always -9 it
[23:30] <robinbowes> Where's the firewall (iptables) configured in 8.0.4 ?
[23:30] <rogerio> can someone help me I'm new user Linux
[23:31] <erUSUL> !ufw | robinbowes
[23:31] <yeastwars> [R]: yep, that did it. Thanks I guess
[23:31] <ComradeHaz`> still doesn't die :D
[23:31] <ComradeHaz`> WTF
[23:31] <erUSUL> robinbowes: but the firewall is disabled by default
[23:31] <rogerio> I want to install games 3d, but with apt-get  or deb packag
[23:31] <yeastwars> ComradeHaz`: pkill -9 gdm;pkill -9 Xorg doesn't do it?
[23:31] <notworking> step21 and wouldn't know what Im looking for if I could.. Is there a step process that I can follow to fix this
[23:32] <erUSUL> rogerio: playdeb?
[23:32] <robinbowes> I have a firewall in place (iptables-save shows the rules)
[23:32] <yeastwars> ComradeHaz`: as root, that is
[23:32] <step21> notworking: try running it from a terminal, then you should be able to see output.
[23:32] <robinbowes> erUSUL: thx, btw
[23:32] <ComradeHaz`> Ay, yeas yeastwars, thanks
[23:32] <robinbowes> I have a firewall in place (iptables-save shows the rules) but I want to add another port
[23:32] <step21> accessories > ternminal type: vlc
[23:32] <step21> then try the stream
[23:32] <yeastwars> np :)
[23:33] <erUSUL> robinbowes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Saving%20iptables
[23:33] <step21> there is no step process because just from what you said it could be anything
[23:33] <yeastwars> Is there a way to make the Network Manager applet stop disappearing and reappearing randomly? It's extremely distracting, to say the least...
[23:33] <robinbowes> erUSUL: OK, so this stuff is not configured by default?
[23:34] <W43372> Hi everybody!
[23:34] <zire> anyone with wine savvy available to answer a question in #winehq?
[23:34] <erUSUL> robinbowes: iptables save restore ? no. afaics
[23:34] <junior> #wireless-br
[23:34] <W43372> I have brushes for GIMP but I don't know where to put them. Where is it located in the filesystem?
[23:35] <[R]> W43372: ~/.gimp-2.6
[23:35] <llutz> W43372: ~/.gimp-2.6/brushes
[23:35] <step21> notworking: if I try your url it says that the connection did not get accepted. so it does seem to be on the server side
[23:35] <Utente> hi whenevere i place a symbolic link to a script in rcS.d it's executed twice at boot how do i make it run once ? thx
[23:35]  * enyone_ français ici?
[23:35] <step21> nothing you can do
[23:35] <erUSUL> !fr | enyone_
[23:35] <dot> Is there a way i can change the screen alignment of my monitor in ubuntu?
[23:35] <notworking> step21 I was trying to look up on google how to run in terminal but I am getting frustrated
[23:35] <tank_> dot: are you talking rotation, things like that?
[23:36] <step21> notworking: it'a server problem, not ubuntu's or vlc's fault
[23:36] <dot> no, like the monitors screen is going left, almost covering the ubuntu logo on the applications tab
[23:36] <W43372> llutz: ~/. ?
[23:36] <llutz> W43372: ~ is users home
[23:36] <notworking> oh ok so If I try another station it should work
[23:36] <civis> How can I reinstall GRUB on LiveCD?
[23:37] <tank_> dot: hmm. thats odd. check your resolution perhaps?
[23:37] <step21> notworking: yes I think so
[23:37] <W43372> llutz: OH! So it is in the home folder. That's what I thought.
[23:37] <tank_> dot: or the settings ON YOUR MONITOR (not computer)
[23:37] <W43372> llutz: the brushes I have are .abr. I was told that they should work with GIMP.
[23:38] <civis> Does anybody have idea? How install GRUB on LiveCD
[23:38] <llutz> W43372: sorry, i'm a gimp-noob,
[23:38] <jrib> !grub2 > civis
[23:38] <SuspectZero> hey there, quick question, im in a bit of a conundrum, my wireless nic wont work on my host so i was gonna install ubuntu 10.4.0 (i htink thts the latest one) as a guest. now would it be possible to connect to the internet in the guest then use that connection on my host as well?
[23:38] <SuspectZero> also the wireless nic is usb
[23:38] <W43372> so, does anybody know if brushes that are .abr will work in GIMP?
[23:39] <dot> hm still the same thing
[23:39] <jrib> SuspectZero: probably not, but check with #vbox
[23:39] <SuspectZero> kk thnx
[23:39] <jrib> !who | dot
[23:39] <civis> jrib: I've installed GRUB1
[23:39] <jrib> civis: so what is your question?
[23:39] <songer> helllo
[23:40] <songer> whre can i see the settings of the mouse
[23:40] <icedtea> anyone know if there's an easy way to go from ubuntu -> kubuntu
[23:40] <jrib> !kde | icedtea
[23:40] <civis> jrib: I dont know how can I reinstall that GRUB on /sda (not like now /sdb)
[23:40] <jrib> icedtea: you'll have kde and gnome as an option at login if you install kubuntu-desktop
[23:41] <jrib> !grub > civis
[23:41] <icedtea> jrib: cool, many thanks
[23:41] <will> W43372:  http://www.google.com/search?q=gimp+abr+brush
[23:41] <will> first hit
[23:42] <civis> jrib: mm, ok, I'll try
[23:42] <junior> #ubuntu-br
[23:44] <aarcane> is there a landscape-client available for debian systems ?
[23:45] <bazhang> aarcane, yes, its in ubuntu repos
[23:45] <bazhang> !info landscape-client | aarcane
[23:46] <aarcane> bazhang, is there one that will install onto a debian system (not ubuntu), and I ask mainly because I found landscape and I love it, but I'm not about to gut my router and replace it with ubuntu right here and now.
[23:46] <bazhang> aarcane, unless you mean debian, for which you should ask in #debian
[23:47] <civis> jrib: thanks! that site helped me very much
[23:47] <bazhang> aarcane, no idea about debian, this is ubuntu support
[23:47] <aarcane> bazhang, I'm asking here because landscape is a service from ubuntu.
[23:47] <jinxx> After installing ubuntu 10.04 updates just now, update-grub seems to have seriously messed up my triple boot.  It used to go: Ubuntu, Fedora, and Sabayon (edited in my /etc/grub.d/40_custom because ubuntu wouldn't detect it).  Now, it's pretty much all sabayon and my Fedora 13 kernels are listed as sabayon as well (and it tries to boot sabayon to a fedora kernel).  My /boot/grub/grub.cfg: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/nSpcLepQ -- can anybody help?
[23:48] <bazhang> aarcane, but debian would package it, not ubuntu; ask there
[23:48] <jrib> civis: no problem, thanks for taking the time to read :D
[23:49]  * aarcane facepalms
[23:51] <mas> algun server de arch en español??
[23:52] <BellinXFelon> is there a program in xubuntu i can use to free up hard disk space
[23:52] <CamFox> BellinXFelon: rm?
[23:52] <ThisPerson> Hello.  I am having trouble with grub.  I installed Ubuntu 10.04 then Ubuntu 8.04 along side of it.  8.04 replaced the grub but it does not understand how to start into 10.04.  How can I repair this?  I am currently booted from the 10.04 live disk.
[23:52] <BellinXFelon> CamFox : what is that
[23:52] <CamFox> BellinXFelon: Sorry, it was a joke. Ignore me
[23:52] <[R]> CamFox: how is that a joke...
[23:52] <BellinXFelon> k
[23:52]  * CamFox shuts up
[23:53] <[R]> BellinXFelon: sounds like you should be reading an "intro to linux" book
[23:53] <BellinXFelon> [R]: im pretty familiar with linux, there are just some fundamentals i dont understand yet
[23:53] <buzzard32> this person do you want the grub 1 or 2?
[23:53] <[R]> BellinXFelon: you are "pretty familiar" but you don't even know what rm is?
[23:54] <BellinXFelon> [R]: correct. is that a problem or something?
[23:54] <[R]> very much so... because its a very basic command
[23:54] <[R]> so you are not "pretty familiar"
[23:54] <[R]> if you dont even know what that is
[23:54] <BellinXFelon> [R]: thats why i am here asking for help
[23:54] <[R]> which brings me back to
[23:55] <[R]> [03:53:10] [R] BellinXFelon: sounds like you should be reading an "intro to linux" book
[23:55] <buzzard32> thisperson do you know what version of grub you prefer?
[23:55] <maco> [R]: could be pretty familiar with gnome or kde but not with bash
[23:55] <CamFox> BellinXFelon: try 'man rm' at the command line
[23:56] <ThisPerson> buzzard32; I have no preference as long as it is configured to work properly.
[23:56] <CamFox> BellinXFelon: Although I suspect you're looking for a program to find 'wasted' disk space
[23:56] <BellinXFelon> CamFox : yes
[23:57] <uLinux> sup
[23:57] <Aemaeth> soup
[23:57] <trakinas> hi fellas! Ive already followed the instructions on ICS, but I keep getting connect/disconnected blinking on my ubuntu screen. and I didnt get ho0w should I configure winXp
[23:58] <Shwaiil> Q: I've installed ubuntu first time, wirless is not working. Trying to fix it, but there's a dependency error DKMS. The computer has no internet connection, no ethernet available. What the hell is DKMS ? Any tip ? tks
[23:58] <trakinas> winxp I put 10.0.0.78, 255.255.255.0, my ip for the gw, my ip for the dns
[23:58] <smegzor> HELP!  I just deleted some files and folders accidentally.  Is there any way to undelete in Ubuntu?  I did not use the trash as I routinely bypass that.
[23:58] <oasik> I have compiled a new kernel from git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ickle/drm-intel
[23:58] <erUSUL> !undelete | smegzor
[23:58] <buzzard32> thisperson if you fix it with 10.04 live cd you have chosen version 2 of grub. the commands are Grub 2
[23:58] <buzzard32> Boot live cd with grub 2, ubuntu 9.10 or newer
[23:58] <buzzard32>                                                                                                     ## find drive and partition with linux
[23:58] <buzzard32> sudo fdisk -l
[23:58] <buzzard32> sudo mkdir /media/sda2                                                           ## make a mount point
[23:58] <FloodBot3> buzzard32: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:58] <buzzard32> sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/sda2                                         ## mount the linux to the mount point
[23:58] <buzzard32> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/sda2 /dev/sda      ## installs grub to the mbr on /dev/sda
[23:58] <smegzor> thanks
[23:58] <oasik> but I do not know to change grub.cfg to work with this new kernel
[23:59] <smegzor> the files were on an ext4 partition if that helps
[23:59] <CamFox> smegzor: how did you delete the files exactly?
[23:59] <erUSUL> oasik: if you copied the files to /boot/  "sudo update-grub" should work
[23:59] <Shwaiil> Error: dependency is not satisfiable: dkms
[23:59] <uLinux> I got to System > Preferences > Preferred Applications > Multimedia: select Custom and put vlc %U for default player but it doesn't do nothing. help