[00:00] the qt guys are hungry for performance, so i think that they will make this change in a very long term [00:00] * rbelem is just guessing [00:00] :-) [00:01] I'm not sure, and won't speculate. I hope it to be sooner because of annoyances like the above. I know that modern FPUs don't have significant differences between float and double operations (but that such FPUs are not commonly available retail) [00:34] ScottK: reject please my -workspace upload, I'd like to fix another bug before [00:53] lex79: OK [00:55] lex79: Done. [00:55] ScottK: thanks [00:55] persia: It's my understanding that the qreal/double issue on armel can't be fixed without breaking binary compatibility so it's a Qt 5 thing to change. [01:10] ScottK, It is definitely a binary-compatibility breaking thing: thanks for the correct that this means Qt 5 vs. 4.x [01:11] lex79, Thanks. qreal foo = (qreal) QString.toDouble() seems to work. [01:12] you're welcome :) [01:30] ScottK: uploaded [01:48] thanks [01:49] * lex79 goes to bed, night === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [05:35] how does one figure out what repository an app is in? [05:36] specifically, kaudiocreator [05:38] !kaudiocreator [05:38] Sorry, I don't know anything about kaudiocreator [05:39] hmm [05:50] valorie, How do you mean "what repository"? [05:50] it was in beta ppa [05:50] but isn't any more [05:51] so how can I see if it's in universe or what? [05:51] have been googling, but..... [05:51] You can use rmadison to see what is in the standard repositories. [05:51] `rmadison -u debian ...` will tell you what is in Debian. [05:52] so rmadison -u kubuntu will do that for kubuntu ? [05:52] I think LP shows what PPAs are used sometimes from http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/${package} but I'm not 100% that's the right URL (you can ask in #launchpad) [05:52] thanks! [05:53] I thought ubottu knew stuff like that [05:53] but help got me nada [05:53] Kubuntu doesn't have special repositories (except for the various PPAs). Although the naming is sometimes frustrating, don't confuse "Ubuntu" the project with "Ubuntu Desktop", the GNOME-based flavour. [05:54] ok [05:55] looks like it is just part of multimedia [05:55] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?text=kaudiocreator [05:56] so I'll update my blog post, and answer a question asked me with that info [05:56] thanks! [06:19] and kde-apps updated too [08:15] \o === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [10:36] Hrm, why is Kubuntu-desktop being kept back on maverick? [10:36] Does C++ automatically call toDouble if I pass a QString into a function expecting a double? [10:37] Hey ;) [10:37] Do we have koffice 2.3 beta ppa somwhere? [10:48] Is that targeted for maverick? [10:49] is this just broken foor now or do we need to action something to fix it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/496373/ [10:52] no we don't have koffice 2.3 beta and it's not in maverick [10:55] * persia is very glad that koffice isn't likely to get any significant version bump for maverick, and goes back to trying to understand the MSOOXML bits. === yofel_ is now known as yofel === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [11:17] jussi: that needs a rebuild, want to test that it sucessfully rebuilds? [11:17] Riddell: sure. what do I need to do? [11:17] Riddell: btw, I got the CD's. thanks! [11:18] apt-get source kamoso; cd kamoso-; dch -i "Rebuild for new libvlc"; debuild [11:18] if it works, debuild -S; cd ..; debdiff .dsc .dsc [11:18] Riddell: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/revision/423 [11:19] though since it got in with lex79's upload yesterday I suppose the question now is whether that should be reverted ^^ [11:20] Riddell: I am not sure kamoso needs a rebuild... IIRC 1.0.5 is not compatible with VLC 1.1+ [11:21] apachelogger: I take it the change is well tested? [11:21] yup [11:21] also not exactly intrusive :) [11:22] apachelogger: how does it know where to get the wallpapers from? [11:23] Riddell: from the system's POV it is not even external since it draws the possible categories via http://download.kde.org/ocs/providers.xml pointing at https://api.opendesktop.org/v1/ using the api defined at http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/open-collaboration-services#categories to https://api.opendesktop.org//v1/content/categories which as we can see actually gives us access to every category available on [11:23] any opendesktop site (such as kde-look, kde-apps, kde-files, gnome-look, xfce-look...) [11:24] the change just adds the kubuntu wallpaper cateogry additionally to the ones KDE uses [11:24] apachelogger: ah, nice [11:24] groovy [11:24] oh, and I chose to implement this as patch rather than in kds so that we do not miss out if KDE changes the categories list [11:25] sigh, I havent set this environment up yet... lot of things to install [11:26] lex79: that qt4-x11 upload you did, is that 4.7.0? [11:28] Riddell: it failed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/496389/ [11:28] mind, I goot a giggle out of the line number that had an issue :D [11:28] dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2 [11:28] debuild: fatal error at line 1337: [11:29] jussi: so the package probably needs removed, please file a bug saying so and subscribe ubuntu-archive [11:29] Riddell: sure thing [11:29] you could also check with upstream if there's any fix or update [11:30] * jussi goes to look at upstreams page [11:33] hrm, the only mention of vlc in the commit log is: [11:33] PUSH16:41 [11:33] Alex Fiestas pushed 8 commits to kamoso/mainline:vlc11port [11:33] vlc11port changed from bea08b6 to 9108ce9 [11:36] Riddell: bug 642705 filed :) [11:36] Launchpad bug 642705 in kamoso (Ubuntu) "Please remove non building package Kamoso" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/642705 [11:37] Riddell: thanks for the refresher course on some package stuff. :) [11:41] jussi, If you're feeling especially excited, you could try backporting the vlc11port bits, getting it to build, and then you get to keep it :) [11:43] jussi, Riddell: wouldnt it make more sense to fetch a snapshot of the vlc11port? [11:43] ah ^^ [11:48] snapshot runs the risk of upstream features and a FFe, but yeah, that works too :) [11:52] apachelogger, trying to compile amarok on maverick. libtag1-dev doesnt have ASF support compiled in. is that intended? [12:19] apachelogger, ugh. nevermind, didnt installed other required dependencies [12:19] ^^ [12:19] * apachelogger blings KRF [12:19] *blink* [12:20] persia: I think the overall risk is lower with taking something that someone (upstream) already used rather than having us fiddle with code we do not know the next thing about :) [12:21] * apachelogger dances [12:21] I can appreciate that viewpoint. I don't subscribe to it (or I wouldn't have a 90K patch for a programming language I don't know in progress), but there are reasons I'm not in release management :) [12:35] ^^ [13:00] jjesse_: pingly [13:00] jjesse_: i answer your call for docs packager :D [13:06] jjesse_: please mail the details, since jeffrai's core is down... i think.. :( [14:54] Riddell: yes, it's 4.7.0 [15:01] Riddell: would you mind taking a look at bluedevil in approval queue please? === rgreening_ is now known as ghost === ghost is now known as rgreening [15:52] JontheEchidna: Just approved it. [15:53] thanks [16:41] Riddell: I've just uploaded a kubuntu-meta that incorporates rbelem's feedback on -mobile seeds. Would you please review/accept and then respin mobile once it's published (a respin would also catch the kwin fix that was causing X crashes yesterday on mobile) [16:43] Mamarok: ping [16:43] Quintasan: pong [16:44] Mamarok: Do you know if there are any hacks required for Amarok from SVN or we can just go ahead and package it in project-neon? [16:45] * ScottK 's irony bell goes off. [16:45] ouch, no idea about neon TBH, also it would be Git, not SVN, we don't use SVN anymore since more than a year [16:46] JontheEchidna: btw, I like muon a lot! Good work :) [16:47] Quintasan: why not asking apachelogger? He is the one who would know best about neon. I can only tell you about building from git [16:47] Mamarok: That's what I want to know exacly :) I'm the new maintainer of Neon with shadeslayer and yofel_ [16:47] :) [16:48] Mamarok: and I'm wondering if we should already start bugging LP devs if something "extra" is required [16:48] Quintasan: for all dependencies, you can see here: http://blogs.fsfe.org/myriam/2009/09/compiling-amarok-from-git-locally-full-summary/ Despite the blog date, it is up-to-date [16:48] Quintasan: btw amarok also is in git.kde.org now, moved over from gitorious [16:49] * shadeslayer wonders if anyone knows what happened to jefferai [16:49] shadeslayer: well, read that blog post, it is up-to-date as I just said :) [16:49] Mamarok: i have it bookmarked :P [16:49] shadeslayer: why? Did you try to ping him in #amarok? [16:49] Mamarok: well... i cant connect to his quassel core [16:50] and i thought he idled here as well [16:50] and hes not there too ;) [16:50] the core is down AFAIK, write a mail [16:50] but it is Sunday at his place, maybe he is just out for the day [16:51] *shrug* ... ill wait a few days and then ask :) [16:51] brrr [16:51] * Quintasan forgets all those project-neon's in package names [16:51] * shadeslayer tries to figure out QSignalMapper [16:54] what would be the best class for a configuration dialog? like.. my config dialog will have loads of checkboxes to tick and un-tick options [16:54] DontTouchMeOrIWillExplode? [16:55] Quintasan: :P [16:55] DontTouchMeOrYOUWILLBEEXTERMINATED! [16:56] http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKConfigDialog.html \o/ [16:56] shadeslayer: what are you plotting btw? [16:56] Quintasan: plotting? [16:56] shadeslayer: doing [16:56] im trying to make a zsync Qt/KDE UI [16:56] * shadeslayer pokes jjesse [16:56] WHY? [16:57] Quintasan: because i can? [16:57] leave zsync alone [16:57] whai? whats the problem? [16:57] you take away one command from my show-off list ;P [16:57] lol [16:57] Quintasan: you can still use it from a terminal [16:58] like: look guys, I'm t3h master of zsync'z [16:58] Quintasan: http://gitorious.org/qzsync [16:58] shadeslayer: yeah, but if it is a gui then everyone can use it :P [16:58] i havent gotten very far [16:58] hehe [16:58] * Quintasan implements some buffer overflows and commits [16:58] Quintasan: dont tell them about the app then :P [17:00] * Quintasan puts some memory leaking magic in there as well [17:00] hmm... question is ... do i *need* a config dialog? [17:01] dunno lol [17:01] ask some generic users [17:01] dude there are like only 7 options to pass to zsync [17:01] meh [17:01] Then you want it [17:02] and the only usefull one is : -A hostname=username:password [17:02] Quintasan: the rest are quite implicit [17:02] shadeslayer: Taking options aways from users I see :> [17:02] APPLE LIKE APPROACH [17:02] hehehe [17:03] lets pray that kdeedu will compile [17:03] -i inputfile << that i plan to implement during the "Specify Download link" [17:04] * Quintasan notes he should do his homework in near future, like in 20 minutes [17:04] my todo is unusually large, I'd better sort it out [17:17] nixternal: Can haz powerpc? [17:17] BBIAB. [17:23] ScottK: ppc firing up now === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [18:08] [muon] jmthomas * 1177180 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (libmuon/MuonStrings.cpp muon/FilterWidget.cpp) Add a new filterable status, "Residual Config" showing uninstalled packages that still have config files lying around, and can be purged. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:17] [muon] jmthomas * 1177182 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ChangeLog ChangeLog++ [18:26] [muon] jmthomas * 1177184 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/MuonStrings.cpp SVN_SILENT: Include cleanup [18:29] Hey guys [18:29] need some opinions on this http://i.imgur.com/cdCyg.jpg :D [18:30] sheytan_: nice [18:32] shadeslayer thank you :) === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [18:58] Riddell ping pong [18:58] Riddell dantti said something about kpk in you ppa [18:58] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1177190 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Add a markPackagesForAutoRemove() method that acts like apt-get autoremove [18:58] may i have it for testing? ;) [19:02] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1177191 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.cpp Emit packageChanged so that the current system knows that something has changed. I think we're going to change packageChanged behavior in the near future, though [19:16] nixternal: Thanks. [19:17] [muon] jmthomas * 1177196 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h muonui.rc) Add a menu item to trigger the new QApt::Backend::markPackagesForAutoRemove() function [19:47] hi people [19:47] can u help with pykde? [19:47] what args must be passed to KAuth.HelperSupport.helperMain? [20:16] nixternal: All done. Thanks. [20:16] (I shut it down)