[00:00] <Laurel> hi
[00:03] <dasKreech> !hi | Laurel
[02:21] <poolnoodle> allo where can (if i) can find kubuntu community PPC?
[02:21] <poolnoodle> PowerPC
[02:23] <poolnoodle> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.04/
[02:23] <poolnoodle> nothing here
[02:24] <poolnoodle> or it would be really cool of you to help out this poor eMac user on a distro that has kde4
[02:24] <poolnoodle> im in a state of love for KDE especially over OS X
[02:28] <RunningAim> hello..i have installed the latest ubuntu server and i have installed gnome.first question is whether i can make the system work as a domain so windows users can connect to it...and second question is whether i can resize my hard drive which is lvm.
[02:29] <poolnoodle> lvm is alot harder to resize
[02:30] <poolnoodle> if you made a volume you might have to resize two partitions
[02:30] <poolnoodle> and the domain? samba?
[02:31] <RunningAim> basically what i did was the following..i installed the system on part of the hard drive...left some space for a partion..but i tried with gparted to enable the second partition and it was nowhere to be found..as the lvm has taken the space
[02:40] <dasKreech> poolnoodle: if there is a Ubuntu Release for PPC you can install the Server and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <dasKreech> ask in #ubuntu-ppc
[02:41] <dasKreech> RunningAim: Yes instal samba and read the documentation for it
[02:41] <RunningAim> ok.thanx
[02:43] <Quaxir> Heydo, does anyone have an idea what to do when this happens: I boot Kubuntu and before I get to login screen (that point there reads "Kubuntu" and few circles below Kubuntu-text) KDE won't start. I'm using Kubuntu 10.04 64x (desktop)
[02:49] <poolnoodle> Quaxir. awe youre running kubuntu! ;)
[02:50] <poolnoodle> *sif sif sif* i cant wait for my new phenom x4 setup with a 5770 and dual LG 22" 1920x1200
[02:51] <poolnoodle> fuul eye candy KWin
[02:53] <poolnoodle> id prefer a HP with amd chipset tho
[02:58] <Kage> How can I set my default audio device?
[02:58] <Kage> I got a USB headset
[02:58] <poolnoodle> alsamixer
[02:59] <poolnoodle> console cmd
[02:59] <poolnoodle> thats how i do it
[03:00] <Kage> poolnoodle: well its not sending my audio to the USB headphones, but to the onboard headphones
[03:05] <Kage> poolnoodle: its the equal to having more then one audio card
[03:05] <poolnoodle> audio goes to all devices in linux
[03:06] <poolnoodle> you just have to turn them on or off with alsamixer
[03:06] <poolnoodle> alsamixer takes switches and commands
[03:06] <poolnoodle> if need be
[03:07] <poolnoodle> usb headset sounds like a crummy chipset tho maybe no support?
[03:08] <Kage> poolnoodle: it sees the device, and it is enabled and turned on and up
[03:08] <Kage> poolnoodle: but I can't hear audio though it unless I make like a test noise though KDE system audio
[03:08] <poolnoodle> ok on those boxes thats mute
[03:08] <poolnoodle> oh you can hear sound?
[03:09] <Kage> poolnoodle: I can hear noise though it, but flash and other things don't work though it
[03:09] <poolnoodle> then i dunno i came here looking for a PPC distro i usually use slackware
[04:01] <blackeagle06> very bright ubuntu morning
[04:04] <Walzmyn> meh. bed time here
[05:05] <vbgunz__> I would like a new GTK theme for my gnome applications on 10.04. Where can I get them? what are they called?
[05:10] <poolnoodle> vbgunz__ just theme gtk apps with qtcurve
[05:11] <vbgunz__> poolnoodle: yeah but I don't like it :( ... not sure where to download new gtk styles for use in KDE. I am at kde-look.org but there is no category for this. I mean, is it I use native GTK styles or something?
[05:12] <poolnoodle> yeah you dont need any apps
[05:12] <poolnoodle> try and find or not gtkrc files and save them in /home/~
[05:12] <poolnoodle> as the appopriate name
[05:12] <poolnoodle> find or not KDE look a likes
[05:12] <poolnoodle> from gnome-look
[05:13] <poolnoodle> or art.gnome.org
[05:13] <poolnoodle> i have searched qtcurve is one a the few that match
[05:13] <vbgunz__> hmm, so the look is based on a native gtk theme?
[05:14] <poolnoodle> yea'h
[05:14] <vbgunz__> ok I'll try to further figure it out thanks for the tip
[05:14] <poolnoodle> and you might have to move the archive to /home/~
[05:14] <poolnoodle> gtkrc needs to have the right nome i forget and in ~
[05:14] <poolnoodle> *name
[05:15] <vbgunz__> I just downloaded a theme. just to try it out
[05:15] <vbgunz__> gonna see if I can figure it out
[05:15] <poolnoodle> its part of the unix fun to know its gtk or qt or imlib or X11
[05:15] <poolnoodle> different themes are cool by me
[05:16] <poolnoodle> for production i like it all the same
[05:18] <vbgunz__> yeah but qtcurve is really far from the same. at this point I am willing to accpet anything nicer. not sure why but I just don't like qtcurve :(
[05:19] <poolnoodle> you have to set kde to qtcurve too
[05:20] <vbgunz__> oh
[05:21] <vbgunz__> I think I might know what you're saying cause I am bugging out here. you're saying I have to overwrite gtkrc with the new theme and leave it on qtcurve?
[05:21] <poolnoodle> yea
[05:21] <vbgunz__> wow, I was hoping I could simply add some choices to the list
[05:21] <poolnoodle> no
[05:21] <vbgunz__> gonna back it up then, I know where its at
[05:21] <poolnoodle> different toolkits
[05:28] <vbgunz__> I replaced gtkrc here at ~/.kde/share/config/ and rebooted a gtk app but things still look the same. in fact the downloaded theme has about 100 files vs a single gtkrc. I don't think this is right :|
[06:14] <ekin04> hi
[06:33] <sriramoman> is there any chat client that supports yahoo video+audio chat for *ubuntu?
[06:54] <rapidsp> hi
[06:55] <rapidsp> whats version of nvidia driver more usable now?
[07:10] <pepsi> what happened to build-essential?
[08:30] <leagris> hello, I try to install quanta but it conflict with the kdewebdev package it is supposed to be already in. Though kdewebdev only contains docs and a readme file stating it should include quanta, (which it does not). What should I do?
[08:48] <leagris> hello, I try to install quanta but it conflict with the kdewebdev package it is supposed to be already in. Though kdewebdev only contains docs and a readme file stating it should include quanta, (which it does not). What should I do?
[10:07] <vbgunz__> how do I get the gtk2 human-theme to take on my KDE colors? I could have sworn there was once an option for that but I cannot find it :(
[10:21] <tjingboem> the shortcut keys don't work. is this a bug?
[10:23] <v3nd3tta``> where don't the work?
[10:35] <maksbotan> hi
[10:36] <maksbotan> can anybody help with KDE applications development?
[10:36] <maksbotan> i don't understand how to use KAuth
[11:32] <tjingboem> how do i regerate the kde-menu?
[11:34] <Quaxir> Heydo, does anyone have an idea what to do when this happens: I boot Kubuntu and before I get to login screen (that point there reads "Kubuntu" and few circles below Kubuntu-text) KDE won't start. I'm using Kubuntu 10.04 64x (desktop).
[11:39] <mudassar> hello people, I am getting an error while linking c code "hidden symbol '__stack_chk_fail_localä isn't defined" please help
[11:49] <uAbdulqadir> how do you install kubuntu
[11:49] <v3nd3tta``> !iso
[11:49] <v3nd3tta``> arg
[11:49] <uAbdulqadir> usb
[11:49] <v3nd3tta``> !usb
[11:50] <v3nd3tta``> it's the help of #ubuntu, just do the same with the kubuntu data :)
[11:50] <uAbdulqadir> ok
[12:25] <hiker_xylophone> ..and what be the trouble?
[13:38] <BE88> hallo thare i need help...
[13:38] <BE88> i need to recover deleted files in Amarok ubuntu 10.04...
[13:38] <BE88> the Amarok deleted my music some how ...
[13:38] <BE88> help plz :)
[14:07] <BajK> Is there a reason for "wait for vsync" being activated automatically in kde?
[14:07] <BajK> it just causes the system to feel sluggish and serves no purpose for the normal user.
[14:54] <BluesKaj> 'morning folks
[15:03] <sithlord48> mornin BluesKaj
[15:03] <BluesKaj> hi sithlord48
[15:04] <sithlord48> what sort of exciting stuff is happening out there today ? (me im just testing stuff w/ pcsx. )
[15:09] <BluesKaj> sithlord48, pcsx?
[15:10] <sithlord48> yes BluesKaj its a playstation emulator :)
[15:11] <BluesKaj> sithlord48, ok...
[15:12] <sithlord48> its amazing that no issues are being posted , this is a good thing
[15:22] <BajK> is there a way of re-enabling KDE 4.3's behavior of automatically opening the folder popup when hovering over a folder in the folderview?
[15:22] <BajK> now you always have to click on that mushroom/arrow like icon to open the popup
[15:26] <sithlord48> bajk, the shelf plugin has a clickless option as well as support for folder viewing, perhaps that will do it , since it does not seam the folderview will do it any more
[15:27] <BajK> sithlord48: shelf plugin?
[15:27] <sithlord48> BajK: sorry the shelf widget
[15:27] <BajK> shelf? :D
[15:28] <sithlord48> BajK: its a widget, i have it on kde 4.5 on two machines, i didn't install it.. (at least not that i recall
[15:28] <BajK> sithlord48: dunno how it's called in german, i'll start 10.10 and see :D
[15:29] <BajK> there's none
[15:29] <sithlord48> BajK: no i don't .. sorry in english its called shelf, but the icon that it has is that of a draw with stuff in it.
[15:30] <sithlord48> http://lancelot.fomentgroup.org/
[15:30] <BajK> I entered she into the search but there is none^^
[15:30] <sithlord48> it must be a part of the lancelot launcher
[15:31] <sithlord48> see if you have that installed
[15:32] <BajK> hm I think I'll stick with 10.04 and wait till 11.04 because the kmixer is also quite broken
[15:32] <BajK> it does not show that volume slider but opens the window directly, and as of pulseaudio there are no devices but the main output ..
[15:33] <sithlord48> yea pulse is a pita on my machine too, its thinks i should always use hdmi out for sound..
[15:35] <BajK> sithlord48: Kubuntu and Pulseaudio - no good mixture
[15:35] <BajK> and I rather want my headset working than being able setting each stream'S volume separately
[15:35] <BajK> I think I'll stick with 10.04 (as its a LTS) and wait till 11.04 and KDE 4.6 is supposed to be quicker and then it'd be perfect :)
[15:36] <sithlord48> BajK: i have noticed the dozen of so times i have tried to use it.. everytime it just fails, and i can't seam to config it easily or get it to remember its config..
[15:36] <sithlord48> 4.5 is great
[15:37] <sogreg> having problems with my wireless. i randomly lose connection to the router and have to disable, enable, and reconnect manually to get back on, sometimes only to be booted again immediately. i am also getting bad password errors on some attempts, but not others, without ever changing the saved password. anyone have any ideas?
[15:37] <sogreg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/496497/
[15:41] <rethus> realy strange! if i do: apt-get update... i got many errors like W: Duplicate sources.list entry ....
[15:42] <rethus> but if i do aptitude update and after this apt-get update again, there are no dublicate sources.list
[15:44] <sithlord48> sogreg: do you have a wired internet connection?
[15:45] <sogreg> sithlord48: no i do not
[15:46] <sithlord48> sogreg: i think what u need to do is check to see if you have a restricted driver availble for you wifi , it may get it to work better, get online, and use the program "jockey" to see if you have properitary drivers taht can be installed
[15:46] <sogreg> sithlord48: thank you very much ill give that a try
[15:47] <sithlord48> sogreg: your welcome and good luck
[15:50] <sogreg> sithlord48: it ran a search and says no proprietary drivers are in use, but doesnt offer any suggestions or alternatives.
[15:51] <sithlord48> sogreg: humm...
[15:51] <sithlord48> sogreg: but it works for a bit then shuts off?
[15:51] <sithlord48> sogreg: it it possibly your router?
[15:52] <sogreg> sithlord48: ive been having this problem at my friends house as well, 2 different routers. no other devices on either network are having this problem, just my laptop
[15:54] <sogreg> sithlord48: i have noticed since installing linux my wifi light flashes alot, and since installing wicd it sometimes shows complete loss of signal, i cant even view available networks
[15:55] <sithlord48> sogreg: did u have issues w/ knetworkmanager?
[15:55] <sogreg> sithlord48: so but it was suggested to me yesterday to try it they said knet had bugs sometimes
[15:56] <sogreg> sithlord48: no*
[15:56] <sithlord48> sogreg: it think its your driver, or soemthign else
[15:56] <sithlord48> sogreg: it worked correctly w/ knetworkmanager?
[15:57] <sogreg> sithlord48: no i was having the same problems with knet, only difference was i didnt notice i was losing signal and couldnt see any available networks until wicd
[15:58] <sogreg> sithlord48: it could be my drivers. but ive been unable to find any i can install they all tell me i they need to be built
[15:58] <rethus> how can i install a package (php-pear) special version (karmic instead of lucid) with aptitude or apt-get
[15:59] <sithlord48> rethus: you have to manually download the packages .deb file and install it w/ dpkg
[16:00] <rethus> didn't work with synaptic, or an apt-comand?
[16:00] <rethus> maybe like in suse, where i can choose, which version to install
[16:02] <BajK> is ATI Radeon HD5145 supported by flgrx?
[16:02] <sithlord48> BajK: go look www.ati.com select the driver from the right,
[16:03] <BajK> hm ok there seems to be a 5xxx category
[16:06] <sogreg> james147: hey, i installed wicd yesterday and everything was fine until last night/this morning when it started happening again
[16:11] <James147> sogreg: sorry, not sure what else you can do (dont know that much about wireless drivers)
[16:11] <Kage> How do I change my default sound card?
[16:11] <bt4> witam
[16:12] <bt4> how to update kadu ??
[16:13] <sogreg> james147: no worries, wicd did show me im losing connection to all networks, think maybe somethings turning the radio off? not sure yet
[16:13] <James147> sogreg: could be...
[16:13] <rethus> sithlord48:  works with aptitude install -t karmic <package-name>
[16:14] <sithlord48> rethus: ok then ,but i have heard you should avoid aptitude useage in kubuntu since it may install differently then apt-get in some cases,
[16:15] <sithlord48> sogreg: then you should prolly reinstall knetworkmanager
[16:18] <sogreg> sithlord48: gave it a try, will see how the day goes. thanks again.
[16:18] <sithlord48> sogreg: no problem , network issues are most annoying
[16:30] <Kage> How do I change my default sound card?
[16:30] <collabra> one sec...
[16:30] <rethus> how can i delete the last entry of histor on shell?
[16:31] <Kage> rethus: rm ~/.bash_history
[16:31] <Kage> oh... last
[16:31] <Kage> ummmm
[16:34] <Kage> rethus: I guess... you would edit ~/.bash_history manually and remove what you don't want
[16:34] <Kage> history -r     looks like it removes everything from the current shell session
[16:36]  * BluesKaj wishes some good soul would write a tutorial for using /etc/network/interfaces on a wireless setup. I know that some advanced users know how to configure their wifi without NM . It can be quite complicated and frustrating if you use WPA2 (wpa supplicant ) setups.
[16:37] <Kage> BluesKaj: I will if you tell me how to change my default sound card :\
[16:38] <BluesKaj> Kage, have you tried changing it in the BIOS, pci or onboard in peripherals  (at least on my setup)
[16:39] <Kage> BluesKaj: I want to make a USB headset my default sound card
[16:39] <Kage> It seems it as a sound card
[16:39] <Kage> and I got most KDE applications to use it
[16:39] <Kage> but some things like flash and games are trying to use the on-board audio
[16:40] <BluesKaj> Kage, yeah that's because it's using the default , not using or scanning for usb
[16:41] <Kage> Hmmm Ill check the BIOS
[16:41] <Kage> brb
[16:41] <BluesKaj> Kage, hang on, gonna check something
[16:47] <Kage> BluesKaj: I disabled the onboard audio chipset.... didn't fix the issue with flash though
[16:50] <BluesKaj> Kage, you left too soon . I was about to suggest this command with your usb headset plugged in , cat /proc/asound/devices
[16:51] <Kage> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.ca/1944254
[16:56] <BluesKaj> Kage, this site is old but the method indicated is fairly new, http://www.lockergnome.com/linux/2007/09/23/setting-the-default-sound-card-usb-headset/
[16:56] <BluesKaj> I'll bbl ... 15 mins
[16:56] <Kage> BluesKaj: already tried that site
[16:58] <Kage> bbl lunch
[17:03] <olskolirc> how is maverick working out for you guys?
[17:04] <NewbieInLinux> hi
[17:04] <olskolirc> hello NewbieInLinux
[17:04] <BajK> how can I use kivio 1.6 on KDE 4.5? I need a good program for doing float charts and dia is just bad
[17:05] <NewbieInLinux> i tried to install Kubuntu 10.04.1 but when in install, in Making user progress, setup crashed
[17:05] <NewbieInLinux> what is problem
[17:05] <NewbieInLinux> can problem are in my disc or what?
[17:05] <olskolirc> how can i create flash?
[17:05] <olskolirc> any toolkit out there?
[17:06] <NewbieInLinux> i dont are tried to install again kubuntu
[17:06] <olskolirc> its in beta NewbieInLinux
[17:06] <BajK> NewbieInLinux: try starting the Try Out Mode (not Setup but the live cd startup) and start setup from there. It crashed at me rarely but nothing bad happened, just restarted setup from there (at live cd you have a full desktop environment that does not exit when setup crashes)
[17:06] <BajK> olskolirc: no, 10.04 is not.
[17:06] <NewbieInLinux> yes i installed it from Live CD mode
[17:07] <NewbieInLinux> and there i got that setup crash message in 10.04.1
[17:07] <olskolirc> its released now? i thought the release was 10/10
[17:07] <BajK> olskolirc: 10.04 -> APril 2010
[17:07] <BajK> NewbieInLinux: yep, that happened at mine as well. try using normal setup
[17:07] <olskolirc> oh im thinking of maverick 10.10
[17:07] <BajK> olskolirc: ;)
[17:07] <NewbieInLinux> so not live cd? in normal setup?
[17:07] <BajK> NewbieInLinux: yep
[17:07] <olskolirc> Lucid sux
[17:08] <NewbieInLinux> ok but can i get langauge packs because i dont are from english
[17:08] <olskolirc> problems distoring vlc video and firefox crashing
[17:08] <BajK> NewbieInLinux: it installs them automatically from the internet after install
[17:08] <NewbieInLinux> ok i try in sometime
[17:08] <olskolirc> look in system setting NewbieInLinux
[17:08] <BajK> olskolirc: then blame vlc and firefox developers, not lucid. it works fine here
[17:08] <NewbieInLinux> but why it crashes in live cd?
[17:08] <olskolirc> not just mine BajK
[17:09] <olskolirc> i don't trust Lucid anymore
[17:09] <BajK> I'll stick with 10.04 till 11.04 is out. 10.10 is worse.
[17:09] <olskolirc> im on Karmic
[17:09] <olskolirc> 11.04?
[17:09] <BajK> olskolirc: natty narwhaöl
[17:09] <NewbieInLinux> what is problem in live cd to make it crash in setup?
[17:10] <BluesKaj> NewbieInLinux, try the alternate install cd, I think it's available in Finnish
[17:10] <BajK> NewbieInLinux: no idea, i just didn't use that live cd anymore^^
[17:10] <NewbieInLinux> so i have really to download again that alternate version
[17:10] <NewbieInLinux> ?
[17:10] <NewbieInLinux> damn my internet is slow
[17:10] <BajK> NewbieInLinux: is there now selection for another language? there should be
[17:11] <NewbieInLinux> ??
[17:11] <NewbieInLinux> i dont understand
[17:11] <BajK> NewbieInLinux: mom, I'll try it.
[17:11] <NewbieInLinux> where is selection for other language?
[17:11] <BajK> you insert the cd
[17:11] <BajK> and there is that boot menu
[17:11] <BajK> it should automatically ask
[17:11] <NewbieInLinux> yes when i boot from CD there comes langauge select
[17:11] <BajK> or press F2 to open that menu
[17:11] <BluesKaj> the alternate install cd requires more attention and choices on your part but it works with difficult to recognize hardware , worked for me on my 5yr old pc
[17:12] <BajK> then select your language and it goes?
[17:12] <BluesKaj> NewbieInLinux, I repeat, the alternate install cd requires more attention and choices on your part but it works with difficult to recognize hardware , worked for me on my 5yr old pc
[17:13] <BajK> NewbieInLinux: then select your language there? or what kind of language do you need?
[17:13] <NewbieInLinux> yes i selected Suomi (Finland) and selected Kokeile Kubuntua ilman muutoksia tietokoneelle (Try kubuntu without changes to computer) then i selected in desktop Install Kubuntu 10.04.1 and i enter my names etc times and selected to format my hard disk and remove Windows and installed and in Tehdään käyttäjää (Making user) it crashed
[17:14] <BajK> NewbieInLinux: again: use the default installer ;) I don't know what's broken here
[17:14] <NewbieInLinux> so i take Asenna kubuntu (Install Kubuntu)? Not Live CD?
[17:14] <BajK> NewbieInLinux: yes
[17:14] <NewbieInLinux> ok thanks for telling that information for me i try it in sometime
[17:14] <NewbieInLinux> =)
[17:14] <NewbieInLinux> bye i have to go
[17:15] <James147> BajK: that just uses the same installer... but without starting up a full desktop enviroment
[17:15] <NewbieInLinux> So that can crashes too??
[17:15] <BajK> James147: but it crashed on live cd at my pc as well but not when using the normal setup
[17:16] <NewbieInLinux> but i have really to go now
[17:16] <James147> weird :S
[17:16] <NewbieInLinux> bye
[17:16] <BajK> James147: maybe the running KDE environment interferes with the setup, whatever^^
[17:16] <vianna> estou testando essa trolha rs
[17:17] <BajK> but I mean, as long as they even don't get the SETUP (which is the first impression the user gets) translated properly and completely, I won't argue about a crashing setup..............
[17:19] <BluesKaj> I was going to ask him how old his pc is , due to the crash ..he might need the alternate install cd which is more HW friendly then the liv e cd
[17:41] <fanti> hello! i've installed kubuntu from scratch and like to have sun-java6-jdk; do i need to enabled "nonfree"-packages in sources.list or something like that?  "apt-cache search sun java jdk" doesn't find the sun java
[17:43] <NewbieInLinux> hi again
[17:43] <NewbieInLinux> =)
[17:46] <fanti> no ideas?
[17:54] <James147> fanti: you need the partner repos enabled
[17:55] <James147> !partner | fanti
[17:55] <fanti> James147: thank you
[18:03] <themyth> hi
[18:23] <ubuntu> 有人？
[18:23] <ubuntu> 中国人
[18:29] <NewbieInLinux> hello
[18:31] <NewbieInLinux> hey but are that problem it crashes in Making user in 10.04?
[18:32] <NewbieInLinux> That was 10.04.1 what crashed in Making user progress. Can 10.04 work?
[18:32] <NewbieInLinux> Are there anyone who talks? :D
[18:35] <NewbieInLinux> ???
[18:37] <NewbieInLinux> i go to sauna =) bye
[18:57] <brew1brew> hey all
[18:58] <brew1brew> I'm looking for some ideas.
[18:59] <brew1brew> My sister updated her Kubuntu 10.04 HP computer and when she rebooted it boots through grub then at "starting up" the video goes dead and monitor gores to sleep.
[19:00] <brew1brew> so no one listening?
[19:02] <brew1brew> Wow, all these people logged in and not one idea?
[19:04] <urgen> hehe
[19:04] <urgen> it is a loosely monitored channel
[19:05] <James147> brew1brew: give us some time :) most of us have other things to do ... but have you tryed booting into recovery mode?
[19:05] <urgen> and if you use some other way to boot the vid and monitor are ok, right?
[19:05] <NewbieInLinux> hi all
[19:05] <urgen> so that may point to something like having accidentally selected a setting the card doesn't support
[19:06] <NewbieInLinux> but about that crash in Making user progress in install, it is in only 10.04.1, not in 10.04?
[19:06] <NewbieInLinux> I have 10.04 discs and 10.04.1 discs and 10.04.1 crashed in making user
[19:07] <James147> NewbieInLinux: if 10.04 works then use that... 10.04.1 is just 10.04 with more updates (so you have less to upgrade after you install)
[19:08] <NewbieInLinux> yeah i tried sometime that 10.04 and that doesnt crashed but when i tried 10.04.1 clean install and crashed
[19:08] <NewbieInLinux> and sorry for my bad english :S
[19:09] <James147> NewbieInLinux: then just install 10.04,
[19:09] <NewbieInLinux> ok
[19:09] <NewbieInLinux> but not today
[19:09] <NewbieInLinux> maybe tomorrow
[19:09] <NewbieInLinux> :P
[19:09] <FloodBotK1> NewbieInLinux: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:11] <brew1brew> Urgen, yes
[19:11] <brew1brew> it boots on the live CD
[19:11] <urgen> so not a hardware issue
[19:11] <urgen> something like it is being overdriven
[19:12] <urgen> needs a more gentle and polite setting
[19:12] <James147> brew1brew: what graphics card do you have?
[19:12] <brew1brew> It's an HP computer, my sister is remote. so I'm supporting her in the phone
[19:12] <NewbieInLinux> is my pc enough good to run KDE? In live cd it was little laggy
[19:12] <NewbieInLinux> ATI Radeon X1200 <-- is my graphics card
[19:13] <NewbieInLinux> damn i dont have money to better so i have to use this intergrated ****
[19:13] <brew1brew> but I found a post that indicated removeing quiet and splash, and adding nomodeset to grub
[19:13] <brew1brew> but I can't get grub to take the edits on boot
[19:13] <James147> brew1brew: hold shift during boot
[19:13] <James147> to get the grub menu
[19:14] <brew1brew> I can get into grub and edit it, but I can't get it to safe, or even boot once on that edit
[19:14] <brew1brew> that would be save
[19:14] <brew1brew> not safe
[19:15] <James147> brew1brew: there should a a key you hit to boot once you ahve finished editing, cant remember what it is, but grub should tell you
[19:15] <James147> brew1brew: also note that the changes you make to grub there are tempory, there is no way to save them
[19:15] <brew1brew> I hit esc to enter grub kernal select, then e to edit, but once in and removing lines an adding lines I can't get it to save or even boot it
[19:16] <brew1brew> James, I figured that, but I can't even get it to boot the changes once
[19:16] <James147> brew1brew: what version of kubuntu?
[19:16] <brew1brew> yes,  they key it says is b to boot, but that reboots and doesn't use the changes I made
[19:16] <brew1brew> we are both on 10.04.1
[19:16] <brew1brew> so should be on grub2
[19:18] <James147> brew1brew: says crtl+x to boot here :S on the edit window
[19:19] <brew1brew> so :S on the edit window?
[19:19] <James147> brew1brew: yeah, make the changes and boot from the edit window
[19:20] <brew1brew> ok, I'm going to go try it on my computer. brb
[19:26] <brew1brew> so were in grub to I need to be? when I'm in the edit screen, cntl x doesn't do anything, neather does :S
[19:26] <James147> brew1brew: what version of grub dose it say?
[19:26] <greg_> control "o" write out nano?
[19:33] <Nakkel> I have a freshly installed 10.04.1 and cant login. Accepts password and screen flashes and kicks me back to KDM login screen.
[19:34] <Nakkel> Any relevant logs I should check out?
[19:34] <James147> Nakkel: try stopping dkm and running "startx" from a vertual terminal, see if it tell you anything
[19:34] <James147> kdm ^^
[19:35] <brew1brew> ok, since it's 10.04.1, I assume it's grub2. so I figured out how to get to the grub mentu and manually load the kernel and boot it. so now I have to have my sister follow my instruction
[19:37] <Nakkel> James147: No visible errors and X/desktop starts fine.
[19:37] <Nakkel> Weird
[19:37] <James147> Nakkel: and you still having problems loggin ine through kdm?
[19:38] <Nakkel> Just restarted kdm to test that one...
[19:39] <Nakkel> Yep
[19:39] <adilalpman> hi all
[19:39] <Nakkel> Still kicks out immediately
[19:39] <adilalpman> i have a problem with my zte mf636 modem on kubuntu 10.04
[19:39] <adilalpman> can anybody help me or advice a document=
[19:39] <adilalpman> ?
[19:40] <James147> Nakkel: check to see if you own all the files/folder in you home directory (including the hidden ones)
[19:42] <adilalpman> i connect my modem to my kubuntu 10.04 via usb and now when i use query modem option in kppp it looks ok
[19:42] <pietjephuck> Maybe this is the wrong place to ask, but is it possible to read mouse events in a script from a second mouse as a non root user?
[19:43] <adilalpman> but when i try to connect it freeze after modem querying
[19:43] <adilalpman> can anybody help me
[19:43] <adilalpman> ?
[19:45] <adilalpman> i think
[19:45] <adilalpman> there is nobody can help me here
[19:45] <Nakkel> James147: used chown -R user:user to my userhome and still the same.
[19:46] <pietjephuck> adilalpman: can't help you
[19:46] <adilalpman> what can i do and hoe can i get help?
[19:46] <adilalpman> how can i get?
[19:47] <James147> adilalpman: if some one know the answer to your question they will answer, unfortinatlly it seems that no one listen atm knows the answer...
[19:47] <adilalpman> ok
[19:48] <James147> adilalpman: you could try browsing the forums, or ask your question again in about 1/2 an hour or so to see if there is anyone new that knows
[19:48] <adilalpman> ok james
[19:48] <adilalpman> thnx
[19:48] <adilalpman> (Y)
[19:50] <Nakkel> Ah there is a kdm.log, some ibus-daemon errors there.
[19:52] <James147> Nakkel: like Bus::open: Can not get ibus-daemon's address.?  .. I get those with almost every kde application :)
[19:52] <James147> (and IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon )...
[19:53] <Nakkel> Yep, those. So not the culprit then.
[19:53] <James147> Nakkel: doupt it
[19:54] <James147> Nakkel: you could try asking on #kde see if they know more about it
[19:54] <Nakkel> Cant even google properly as no GUI to lauch browser. Maybe links/lynx could help.
[19:55] <contrast> Greets, everyone... I have my desktop (nVidia card w/ proprietary driver) hooked up to my monitor (HDMI) *and* television (component). in order for the TV to display at the proper resolution (1920x1080), I have to unplug the monitor from the desktop before X starts up. I'm guessing this could be solved by explicitly identifying each display device in my xorg.conf and stating the resolutions for each, but I'm not sure how to go about doing that. Could someone
[19:55] <contrast> please point me in the right direction?
[19:56] <James147> Nakkel: thourght that you can starx directly? :)
[19:57] <Nakkel> Agh, yes didnt remember that thx :D
[19:57] <James147> !xorg
[19:57] <James147> contrast: ^^
[19:59] <contrast> Thanks, James... Have you heard of the issue I'm having before?
[20:01] <James147> contrast: although with nvidia, it might be easier to use "kdesudo nvidia-settings"
[20:04] <contrast> I'm pretty sure I tried that a good while back, didn't really yield any results... Guess I could give it another go to see if it's been fixed.
[20:05] <contrast> Thanks again, James147
[20:16] <pietjephuck> Is it possible to read mouse events from a second mouse as a non root user?
[20:16] <pietjephuck> in a shell
[21:05] <vbgunz> I installed human-theme to try and make my GTK apps look better. Human theme looks awesome. The only thing bugging me atm is human-theme tabs take on a brownish color whereas everything else seems to be colored right. Anybody know how to fix this?
[21:06] <brew1brew>  James147: thanks for your help on grub, it turnted out that it was a problem with the last kernal update.
[21:07] <brew1brew> I was able to get her to boot into the previous kernal with no problems.
[21:11] <vbgunz> anybody know how to change the human-theme tab color? it's brown and the only color so far that doesn't stick with my color choice in KDE
[21:16] <vbgunz> is the human theme based on a theme that doesn't have brown tabs? I love the widgets but the brown tabs are not cool :(
[21:28] <fanti> hello! where do i find the graphics driver config in an recent kubuntu system? seems that i don't have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf anymore
[21:31] <AHemlocksLie> I'm trying to put Kubuntu on my laptop, but I'm having some issues
[21:31] <AHemlocksLie> it's a Dell Inspiron 1100
[21:32] <AHemlocksLie> I put the live ISO on my flash drive and booted to it
[21:32] <AHemlocksLie> everything goes great up through loading
[21:32] <AHemlocksLie> the hard drive icon, tools, desktop, big K (I assume for KDE) show up
[21:32] <AHemlocksLie> and once it finishes loading everything
[21:32] <AHemlocksLie> I get a black screen
[21:32] <AHemlocksLie> but my mouse still shows up
[21:32] <FloodBotK1> AHemlocksLie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:34] <AHemlocksLie> I hit ctrl+alt+del, and the shutdown/logoff/reboot window pops up just fine, and I can use it. I hit shutdown, and the backgound pops back up, and there's a dialog box asking if I wanna stop some stuff for login. There's like 5 entries in the box, and they're all the same thing, something like "TTY: login" or something like that
[21:36] <AHemlocksLie> anyone have any ideas what the issue is and what I can do to fix it?
[21:37] <AHemlocksLie> are there seriously 276 other people here, all afk? xD
[22:10] <anirudha> hello guys
[22:11] <anirudha> my resolution is setup to 800x600 by default and set it up to 1024x768 in system settings. It reverts back to the 800x600 after every reboot. What should I do to fix it?
[22:12] <James147> !resolution | anirudha
[22:13] <Quaxir>  Does anyone have an idea what to do when Kubuntu won't let me into login screen, it jamms to that "Kubuntu" and few circles below it :S
[22:14] <James147> Quaxir: try running startx from a tty after stopping kdm, see if it tells you anything intresting
[22:15] <Quaxir> James147: Is recovery console any good as I can't get tty from normal boot screen?
[22:17] <James147> Quaxir: o sorry :) thourght you where getting stuck after the login screen... try removing the "quite slash" from the kernal permaters in grub
[22:17] <James147> splash ^^
[22:18] <Quaxir> James147: about that startx, interesting thingy what I see: "Fatal server error: no screens found"
[22:18] <Quaxir> but I'll check that grub out..
[22:20] <Quaxir> James147: now in grub, so all I should do is to remove "quiet splash" from linux-boot?
[22:20] <James147> Quaxir: yes
[22:22] <Quaxir> James147: erm, how to save my edits to grub as if I press ESC it's not saved :). or just "ctrl-x" to get it boot?
[22:23] <James147> Quaxir: just edit it and hit crtl+x
[22:23] <James147> Quaxir: editing it is only tempory, and will only affect that boot you cannot save it at that prompt
[22:24] <Quaxir> James147: ooke
[22:25] <Quaxir> James147: Soo, now I'm in tty2
[22:25] <James147> Quaxir: kdm did not start?
[22:25] <Quaxir> nope, and when I try "stop kde" it says: "stop: Unknown job: kde"
[22:26] <James147> Quaxir: try "sudo start kdm"
[22:27] <anirudha> how to generate the default xorg.conf
[22:27] <Quaxir> James147: oh, sry.. missread it.. it was kdm not kde :)
[22:27] <Quaxir> James147: but, "start: Job is already running: kdm"
[22:28] <James147> Quaxir: alt+ctrl+F7
[22:28] <James147> or F8
[22:30] <Quaxir> James147: With F7 it looks like it's trying to start up but nothing happens, last line is "* Checking battery state...    [OK]", which is kinda weird as it's not laptop o.O
[22:30] <James147> Quaxir: and F8?
[22:31] <James147> if not try "sudo restart kdm"
[22:31] <James147> from one of the ttys
[22:31] <Quaxir> James147: F8 does nothing
[22:32] <James147> Quaxir: alt+crtl+F8 :)
[22:32] <Quaxir> James147: Yeh, alt+ctrl+F8 does nothing :S
[22:32] <James147> Quaxir: then try restarting kdm
[22:34] <Quaxir> James147: First it goes back to that same screen (checking battery state etc.) and then back to tty2 with line: "kdm start/running, process 1858"
[22:35] <James147> Quaxir: hmm, "sudo stop kdm"  then try "startx" (not as root)
[22:38] <Quaxir> James147: stopping kdm seems to go fine, but startx doesn't. "Fatal server error: no screens found" and few lines below "xinit: No such file or directory (errno2): unable to connect to X server"
[22:38] <James147> :S
[22:39] <James147> Quaxir: what graphics card do you ahve?
[22:39] <Quaxir> James147: nvidia 295GTX
[22:39] <James147> Quaxir: do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[22:41] <Quaxir> James147: Yes I do. Just wondering what an earth can cause sth like this as last time I booted from Kubuntu to Windows everything was fine and didn't even install anything on that boot :S
[22:42] <James147> Quaxir: try renaming that file and then run startx again
[22:42] <James147> (will cause X to auto detect the settings again)
[22:46] <Quaxir> James147: Now tty2 (where I ran startx after renaming xorg.conf) spams line "No protocol specified"
[22:46] <James147> Quaxir: anything on crtl+alt+F7-8 (or 9)?
[22:49] <Quaxir> James147: F7=battery checking screen, F8/F9=flickers "_", nothing else. Now in tty2 it gives up and last line: "xauth: /home/quaxir/.Xauthority not writeable, changes will be ignored"
[22:50] <James147> Quaxir: :D change the owner of that file to your user again (I am assuming its owned by root)
[22:50] <James147> Quaxir: although that dosnt explain why kdm didnt start :S
[22:51] <Quaxir> James147: hm, how I do that :D? (done it once for another folder, but don't remember command anymore)
[22:51] <James147> Quaxir: chown USER:USER FILE
[22:56] <Quaxir> James147: Out of ideas what's wrong =/?
[22:56] <James147> Quaxir: did that not work?
[22:57] <Quaxir> James147: Tried startx after chowning it and result was allmost same "No protocol specified"-spam and now instead of telling .Xauthority is not writeable it says "error in locking authority file /home/quaxir/.Xauthority"
[22:58] <James147> Quaxir: whats the output of "ls -lh ~/.Xauthority"?
[22:59] <Quaxir> James147: "-rw------- 1 quaxir quaxir 0 2010-09-20 00:04 /home/quaxir/.Xauthority"
[23:00] <James147> Quaxir: hmm, seems to be of size 0 :S  ... try renaming it
[23:01] <Quaxir> James147: and now startx?
[23:01] <James147> yeah
[23:03] <Quaxir> James147: yarr.. now I'm at my desktop. Resolution and screen settings are screwd however but I suppose it's because of renaming xorg.conf
[23:03] <James147> Quaxir: yeah, I would logout (should take you back to a tty) and see if sudo start kdm works
[23:04] <Quaxir> James147: ookey
[23:05] <Quaxir> James147: starting kdm takes me to login screen
[23:05] <James147> Quaxir: so all working then :)
[23:06] <James147> Quaxir: just need to run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" to recreate the xorg.conf then "kdesudo nvidia-settings" (from a desktop) to reset up the displays
[23:06] <James147> or you could try using the old xorg.conf, but I dont think that will work
[23:07] <Quaxir> James147: ookey.. I'll try using that old xorg.conf as I had pretty much troubles to get it working last time :S, you might remember :D
[23:10] <Quaxir> James147: seems that old xorg.conf doesn't work. So lets try with those you said
[23:11] <James147> Quaxir: didnt think it would :) that what was stopping kdm from starting in the first place, the .Xauthorty was just stopping you logging in
[23:27] <Quaxir> James147: Do you know how to fix this :D. When I move my "Desktop folder"-widget to 2nd screen and click FF to open it it opens to 2nd screen instead of main screen. Is there a way to make those open in main-screen?
[23:27] <thecdggseries> hi
[23:27] <thecdggseries> how to work tetterdeck
[23:27] <thecdggseries> ?
[23:27] <thecdggseries> twitterdeck
[23:28] <James147> Quaxir: there is, cant remeber exactly where, but windows open on the screen that currently has focus... I remember an option to change taht but cannot remember where it was...
[23:29] <James147> Quaxir: currently abusing it with focus follows mouse option :D windows open on the screen my mouse is on
[23:30] <Quaxir> James147: heh, but how you do that as when I click sth my mouse is in 2nd screen :D
[23:31] <James147> Quaxir: they open on the screen the mouse is in when the window is shown (so there is a small delay, enough to move my mouse).. played around with vaious options in system settings (and I think nvidia-settings) to get it to work that way :)
[23:32] <thecdggseries> hi anybody use twetterdeck?
[23:37] <Quaxir> James147: Should I use TwinView or that "Separate X screen"-option?
[23:38] <James147> Quaxir: I use twinview, seperate X screens causes problems with moving windows from one display to the other without xarama, but enabling that causing my computer to slow down horribally
[23:39] <Quaxir> James147: Ookey, I'll stick with TwinView then.
[23:39] <Quaxir> James147: Which font is optimal for linux-shell btw? in windows that Courier new works fine but in Kubuntu it looks veery blurry :S
[23:40] <James147> Quaxir: I am using the default in konsole "monospace"
[23:41] <Quaxir> James147: That works a bit better at least..
[23:43] <Quaxir> James147: What was that conky-replacement for Kubuntu? or just use conky in kubuntu aswell :S
[23:43] <James147> conky?
[23:45] <Quaxir> James147: little program that makes a box to the screen where it shows some system-info like CPU load, ram/network usage, free HDD-space etc
[23:45] <James147> Quaxir: I would just use widgets for that :)
[23:46] <James147> Quaxir: and either put them on the desktop or the dash board
[23:46] <Quaxir> James147: Yh, I was wondering that but no idea which widgets would do the job :D
[23:47] <Quaxir> James147: and ye it's on desktop.. not actually a window, but anyway :P
[23:48] <James147> Quaxir: The ones under the "System information" catogory, "Memory Status", "CPU Monotior"... :)
[23:48] <James147> they should be easy to find
[23:52] <Quaxir> James147: Any idea how to get rid of that "KDE wallet"-thingy :S, never really got what it is supposed to do in the first place..
[23:53] <James147> Quaxir: you can :) but then you have to remember every password for programs that use it :).... its essentally a program that stores your passwords for various programs (konqurer, knetworkmanager... and verious other programs use it)
[23:57] <Quaxir> James147: hmm.. I guess I keep it :)