[00:06] <cwryuu> Just because I haven't done it before, the Maverick install CD can read eSata drives right? I can fallback on USB2.0 if I need to.
[00:08] <penguin42> cwryuu: I'd expect it to
[00:08] <penguin42> cwryuu: You occasionally hit problems with eSATA stuff, but it's pretty rare because it mostly just looks like SATA
[00:09] <cwryuu> penguin42: thank you, that's what I needed to know
[00:30] <Jay-> ok so i rebooted 10.10 and chose a different kernal in grub and my ralink wireless card now works
[00:32] <Jay-> just in case anyone was here for that discussion
[00:33] <penguin42> Jay-: Perhaps it hasn't rebuilt the module for the new one?
[00:33] <Jay-> perhaps? i dunno... all i know is it works now so that is good
[00:34] <yofel> penguin42: we were talking about the built-in rt2860sta module
[00:35] <penguin42> oh ok
[00:35] <Jay-> at least it performs better then kubuntu that won't let me log in after i update it
[00:35] <yofel> ouch
[00:35] <Jay-> lol yeah got the log in screen kde started to load and then it booted me right back to the login screen... i gave up that
[00:36] <yofel> I heard of that...
[00:37] <Jay-> was thinking of trying something different and hadn't run kde since 4.1
[00:38] <Jay-> but i'm happy i got it running
[00:38] <yofel> works fine for me and works fine usually, but I did hear people comlaining about not being able to login recentlly, can't remember what the issue was though
[00:39] <Jay-> yeah fresh install and just ran the updater
[01:28] <Dink> Running a wine app in unity. The app does get get placed infront of the windows when you click on it. Is that a bug in Unity, Wine or X ?
[01:46] <lapion> penguin42, did a virgin reinstall , upon updating same problems reappeared
[02:03] <lapion> most recent ubuntu live-disc doesn't work correctly with the i855 chipset, can anyon verify ?
[03:02] <cwryuu> Well, the good news is I'm replacing Windows 7 with Maverick on this laptop. The bad news is I have to do a 320GB dd back to an external drive :/
[03:34] <Ologn> Was the last (or 2nd before last etc.) version of Firefox on Maverick allow you to move tabs around?  I kind of remember it did, but maybe I'm losing my mind...I guess I can install one of the older deb's if I am really curious
[03:39] <avis> Judge Yeoman for the win
[03:41] <bazhang> avis, see your PM
[05:22] <cwryuu> hmm, I had this weird issue during Maverick install. My laptop has an SD Card reader which had the SD Card for my camera in it. During the grub install it tried to put the bootloader on that instead of the actual disk
[05:39] <Jordan_U> cwryuu: Please file a bug report. It's intentional that grub isn't always intalled to the same drive as the rest of Ubuntu (as the Ubuntu devs think it's safer to intall to the first drive as that's the one the BIOS will likely try to boot from).
[05:39] <Jordan_U> cwryuu: But it should never install to an SD card, unless you also are installing Ubuntu to that same SD card.
[06:01] <DanaG> Heh, Unity is awesome... it gives me a screen full of garbage.
[06:01] <DanaG> Like, random bits of video memory chopped into tiny pieces and smeared all over the desktop.
[06:02] <DanaG> Oh, and the wallpaper has been de-pukified -- cool.
[06:02] <DanaG> Now the purple stock wallpaper is rather pleasant.  Still looks like it has a "ridge" going down the middle of the screen, though.
[06:02] <DanaG> Like somebody ran over my screen.
[06:03] <DanaG> Ah, that garbage is on fglrx.... on my netbook, unity instead just hangs.
[06:04] <DanaG> What it previously did on the netbook: flash white and try to induce siezures.
[06:05] <cwryuu> Jordan_U: all right, all filed away
[06:06] <Jordan_U> cwryuu: Thanks, could you give a link so I can follow it?
[06:06] <cwryuu> Jordan_U: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/642542
[06:07] <DanaG> I'm On A Boat.
[06:07] <DanaG> Nice boat.
[06:07] <DanaG> =þ
[06:07] <Jordan_U> cwryuu: Was your SD card /dev/sda at the time?
[06:08] <bullgard4> At startup my Maverick Beta computer writes after 1,8 s : "Magic number: 10:86:987". What does this number refer to?
[06:08] <cwryuu> Jordan_U: No, /dev/sda was the laptop drive, /dev/sdb was the external, /dev/sdc was the sd card
[06:27] <DanaG> "Upgraded my laptop from gutsy to hardy, amd_64. There is sound, but it's loud and crispy."
[06:27] <DanaG> Loud and crispy?
[06:28] <DanaG> I like that description... but I can't figure out what it means.
[06:28] <DanaG> Crackly?
[06:29] <bullgard4> DanaG: I believe it means hat the higher-frequency tones are prdominant and may be distorted (high intermodulation content)
[06:29] <bullgard4> s/prdominant/predominant/
[06:30] <DanaG> Well, Crispy made me think of food.  Fried food. =þ
[06:30] <DanaG> s/C/c/
[06:32] <bullgard4> DanaG: A conversation is more productive if the conversation partners answer to the statements of the others, rather than simply neglect them and oppose them with other statements.
[06:34] <DanaG> Right.  Though, I was actually thinking it was a language issue -- English as not primary language.
[06:35] <DanaG> High-frequency... tinny?  Sybilant?
[06:35] <bullgard4> Neither it is my native language.
[06:35] <DanaG> er, sibilant, or however you spell it.
[06:36] <bullgard4> Do you mean "syllable"
[06:37] <DanaG> http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=227056
[06:38] <bullgard4> DanaG: Yes, I thin, "tinny" is what is meant.
[06:38] <bullgard4> s/thin/think/
[06:44] <bullgard4> DanaG: So I understand from the link that you provided, that "crispier" is the comparative of "crisp" but this is not known in all parts of the English speaking world.
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> These Tater Chips are crisper then  them there corn chips.. :)
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> !lubuntu
[07:15] <Some_Person> X keeps randomly crashing
[07:24] <bullgard4> At startup my Maverick Beta computer writes after 1,8 s : "Magic number: 10:86:987". What does this number refer to?
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> I would guess some hardware device id#. but other then that.. no idea bullgard4
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> bullgard4:  perhaps dmesg may have some info
[07:36] <bullgard4> Dr_Willis: I found a similar entry in dmesg but the number differs.
[07:57] <lapion> someone really most definitively killed off i915 driver load for i855-xorg
[07:58] <lapion> kms works fine, only xorg loads vesa or fbdev
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> I saw some messages about i915 or similer the other day on my nvidia systems.
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> but i dont have any intel bix's to check if it works or not
[08:22] <bdogg> can someone help me with an issue i have with the login screen?
[08:22] <bdogg> has to do with screen resolution
[08:29] <bdogg> help?
[08:48] <lapion> Dr_Willis, I have here 2 totally different i855 systems that show the same behaviour,
[08:49] <lapion> Beta version i915 works just fine, latest update i915 is totally disabled
[08:57] <bp0> totem doesnt inhibit the screensaver in 10.10 beta
[09:00] <shadeslayer> bp0: magic! :P
[09:04] <lapion> is there any way of getting versions of live-cd's in between the beta and the before last daily ?
[09:14] <yofel> lapion: only the previous one is there as backup: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/
[09:38] <lapion> that's too bad, since a couple of days ago i915 is not working any more yofel
[09:38] <lapion> that was after the update that would have definitively unblacklisted i855
[09:39] <lapion> in the meanwhile the beta disc i855 was allready working perfectlty, and did not seem to be blacklisted
[10:21] <bullgard4> At startup my Maverick Beta computer writes after 1,8 s : "Magic number: 10:86:987". What does this number refer to?
[10:27] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: Interestingly it's mentioned in one of the kernel docs (Documentation/power/s2ram.txt) but it's not explained what the message means.
[10:31] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: drivers/base/power/trace.c (pastebinned here for convienience http://paste.debian.net/90384/ ) seems to explain it in the initial comment, but it's too much for me to understand at 2:00 AM :)
[10:53] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: (I had a lon telephone call in the mean time.) Thank you for providing the two links. I will now read the 2 articles.
[10:54] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: You're welcome.
[10:59] <bp0> shadeslayer, eh? what?
[10:59] <bp0> totem not inhibiting the screensaver is a bad thing.
[11:00] <shadeslayer> bp0: i know, i was jk
[11:00] <bp0> alright
[11:01] <bp0> everyone please join this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/641357
[11:17] <sikor_sxe> i updated to 10.10, but i can't boot to 2.6.35 kernels from maverick
[11:17] <sikor_sxe> the only .35 kernel that works is a leftover .35rc1 kernel from lucid :/
[11:18] <sikor_sxe> when i try to boot 2.6.35-22 it just stalls after grub
[11:21] <sikor_sxe> crap, same with 2.6.36 rc kernels :(
[11:21] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: I have read now the two articles. Apparently the program s2ram writes out the three components USERHASH:FILEHASH:DEVHASH.  Basically, this computer resumes from RAM as well as from disk. I do not know yet if this message appears in Maverick Beta because s2ram thinks that the resume process is faulty or if it does this now as a matter of routine.
[11:21] <sikor_sxe> from mainline ppa
[11:31] <BUGabundo> mornign
[11:46] <sikor_sxe> uhm
[11:46] <sikor_sxe> how am i supposed to file a bug
[11:46] <sikor_sxe> with a ubuntu-kernel running, when the ubuntu-kernel won't boot ?
[11:47] <sikor_sxe> but only an older mainline kernel
[11:47]  * sikor_sxe scratches his head
[11:47] <BUGabundo> ehe
[11:47] <BUGabundo> older mainline?
[11:47] <BUGabundo> well you file it even from another PC if you have too
[11:47] <sikor_sxe> yes
[11:48] <BUGabundo> as long as you say which kernel it is
[11:48] <BUGabundo> and try to get some logs out of the disk
[11:48] <BUGabundo> like dmesg, syslog
[11:48] <BUGabundo> kernel.log
[11:48] <sikor_sxe> hmm
[11:48] <sikor_sxe> i don't have another ubuntu machine
[11:49] <sikor_sxe> its weird anyway that there are no bug reports on this yet
[11:49] <sikor_sxe> it's a pretty stock netbook
[11:49] <sikor_sxe> atom 450, intel gfx
[11:49] <BUGabundo> well
[11:49] <BUGabundo> someone has to be the 1st
[11:49] <yofel> does the live disk boot?
[11:50] <sikor_sxe> i'll download the beta right now
[11:50] <yofel> rather use a daily image
[11:50] <BUGabundo> all of us here, will tell you that sometimes the thing that looks the most common to us, and expect everyone else to have experience is quice personal
[11:50] <yofel> !daily
[11:50] <yofel> +1
[11:50] <BUGabundo> I remember a few editions ago, where I reported a little python bug
[11:51] <BUGabundo> it ended up to be a CRITICAL one, where nothing that used python would work
[11:51] <BUGabundo> most tools got broken, and who ever was using Update Manager would get a borked system
[11:51] <BUGabundo> hence why I stop using UM back then :P
[11:51] <BUGabundo> it was pretty funny, back then
[11:52] <BUGabundo> I got to work, upgraded, noticed the bug, filed, left the office to do external work, got back to see warnings everywhere
[11:52] <BUGabundo> with lots of ppl coordenating to prevent others from upgrading and fixing the bug
[11:52] <BUGabundo> there was a general meeting in #u-bugs, and in the MLs. posts all over the web, blogs, µblogs, forum, etc
[11:52] <BUGabundo> lol
[11:53] <sikor_sxe> i didn't even notice i was using an older kernel
[11:53] <sikor_sxe> i cleaned old kernels up a bit and noticed i've never booted into a maverick kernel yet
[11:54] <BUGabundo> I never remove kernels
[11:54] <spanther> I've tried to boot ubuntu maverick 10.10 with my live usb stick i386 image i downloaded today. It was written with Unetbootin newest version actually (485?) and while booting on my ASUS eeePC 1005p I everytime get an error: "No init found. Try passing init= bootarg." and it shows a BusyBox (initramfs) with a cursor waiting for input
[11:54] <BUGabundo> heck, it has a 1GB partition
[11:54] <BUGabundo> you never know when you gonna need one
[11:54] <BUGabundo> and it has happened more then once
[11:54] <BUGabundo> spanther: use netbootme
[11:55] <BUGabundo> I even made a template for maverick
[11:55] <BUGabundo> let me get the id
[11:55] <spanther> what's netbootme?
[11:55] <sikor_sxe> well, i booted with a livecd, chrooted into the hd and downloaded the old mainline kernel
[11:55] <BUGabundo> doh
[11:55] <BUGabundo> forgot to write down the id
[11:55] <BUGabundo> I FAIL
[11:55] <BUGabundo> http://www.netboot.me/
[11:55] <BUGabundo> spanther: ^^^^^^^
[11:55] <spanther> ah :)
[11:56] <BUGabundo> its just a 600kbs boot image
[11:56] <BUGabundo> that does lan boot
[11:56] <BUGabundo> let me know if you need help making an online template for mm 386
[11:56] <spanther> oh i see... well i can't use this since i have no ethernet until ubuntu is installed on netbook xD have no free cables :(
[11:56]  * BUGabundo needs to find his 64bits id.... it was something with zeros on it
[11:57] <BUGabundo> no free cables??
[11:57] <spanther> cat5 patch cables ;)
[11:57] <BUGabundo> unplug something else LOL
[11:57] <spanther> i cant! otherwise my pc is offline lol
[11:58] <spanther> wait o.o i think i know what to do. lemme plug out that iptv decoder cable :D
[11:59] <spanther> got it x) now i have a cable :D
[12:06] <sikor_sxe> ohh
[12:06] <sikor_sxe> messy
[12:06] <sikor_sxe> the daily live cd won't boot either
[12:07] <sikor_sxe> this is on a lenovo S10-3 machine, which is more or less a vanilla netbook
[12:07] <BUGabundo> with gpu in safe mode ?
[12:07] <sikor_sxe> safe mode?
[12:08] <sikor_sxe> is that a boot param?
[12:09] <BUGabundo> yes
[12:09] <spanther> BUGabundo, installed it on usb stick with unetbootin. now "Default" or "gpxe.lkrn" ?
[12:09] <BUGabundo> ???
[12:09] <BUGabundo> I'm lost
[12:09] <spanther> two options the blue unetbootin boot window prints :)
[12:10] <sikor_sxe> BUGabundo: do i have to press a key on isolinux bootup to change that param?
[12:10]  * BUGabundo pulls back the log
[12:10] <BUGabundo> guys I'm mixing both your probs :S
[12:11] <BUGabundo> one at the time
[12:11] <BUGabundo> who came 1st?
[12:11] <BUGabundo> its Sunday morning. give me a break. I got home at 4am
[12:11] <BUGabundo> hi iShawnW
[12:11] <iShawnW> BUGabundo: there is a waiting list to get help
[12:12] <BUGabundo> LOL
[12:13] <BUGabundo> no
[12:13] <BUGabundo> but I'm slow today :P
[12:13] <BUGabundo> soooooo sikor_sxe you are trying to safe boot from live cd, right?
[12:13] <BUGabundo> press F6 or something like that :P
[12:13] <BUGabundo> spanther: you using unetbootin or netbootme?
[12:13] <BUGabundo> and iShawnW your samba aint working right?
[12:15] <spanther> i have used unetbootin like this tutorial says...
[12:15] <spanther> to install the netbootme.iso on usb drive
[12:16] <BUGabundo> ahhh
[12:16] <BUGabundo> I just dd it :P
[12:16] <spanther> and it didn't boot x.x
[12:16] <BUGabundo> what??
[12:16] <BUGabundo> how can something like a minimal kernel not boot ? :S
[12:17] <spanther> i'll review. wait
[12:17] <sikor_sxe> BUGabundo: there does not seem to be a safe "graphics mode" anymore
[12:17] <sikor_sxe> i got normal, driver, oem
[12:17] <BUGabundo> weird
[12:18] <BUGabundo> yofel: input ?
[12:18]  * yofel reads backlog..
[12:18] <spanther> Loading /GPXE.KRN......    Could not find ramdisk image: /ubninit       boot: (cursor)
[12:18] <BUGabundo> mew
[12:19] <penguin42> hmph - something seems to have broken my virtual desktop layout
[12:19] <BUGabundo> I would say boot from CD.... but no cddrive :(
[12:19] <BUGabundo> penguin42: ehe. you are looking at the mirror dude
[12:19] <spanther> BUGabundo, xD well i have an external dvd burner :P
[12:19] <penguin42> BUGabundo: What's it done to you?
[12:19] <BUGabundo> that could work
[12:19] <BUGabundo> and a cd from boot me always comes in handty
[12:19] <yofel> sikor_sxe: press f6 again maybe, I'm not too familiar with the new disk boot menu
[12:20] <sikor_sxe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[12:20] <sikor_sxe> my menu is missing the safe graphics mode
[12:20] <sikor_sxe> and in other options there is only "nomodeset", which i tried
[12:21]  * BUGabundo waits _patiently_ that 200MBs of last night photos finish uploading :\
[12:22] <penguin42> BUGabundo: My 3x3 workspace grid has just sagged into a 1x9 - and I could swear I'd restarted after the last update previously
[12:22] <yofel> sikor_sxe: right, that was for the old menu, can you see if you can somehow edit the boot options and remove quiet splash?
[12:23]  * yofel goes fetching the daily iso
[12:28] <sikor_sxe> it might have sth to withe intel driver
[12:28] <sikor_sxe> i removed the quite splash options
[12:28] <sikor_sxe> and it stalls at "[drm] initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810"
[12:30] <yofel> sounds like intel or libdrm indeed, I don't know too much about that though
[12:31] <spanther> BUGabundo, netboot.me is weird... it can't find my network card and so it can'T download necessary files o.o
[12:31] <yofel> if nobody else has an idea in here for a while, go to #ubuntu-x or #ubuntu-kernel (if anyone is there and doesn't ignore you)
[12:31] <penguin42> sikor_sxe: Exactly which intel graphics card is it?
[12:33] <sikor_sxe> penguin42: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3150
[12:33] <penguin42> ok, upstart question - my squid doesn't start at boot, initctl list shows it as stop/waiting - how do I get it to start at boot?
[12:33] <penguin42> sikor_sxe: OK, so that's one of the newer ones; I'd have expected that to work
[12:33] <yofel> penguin42: can you pastebin the script? or just the 'start on' part
[12:33] <sikor_sxe> it did work on lucid
[12:34] <penguin42> yofel: The one in /etc/init?
[12:34] <yofel> right
[12:34] <BUGabundo> penguin42: does squid work with upstart?
[12:35] <penguin42> yofel: http://pastebin.com/4PxYfwap
[12:35] <yofel> s/script/config file/ I'm still used to sys-v-init
[12:35] <penguin42> BUGabundo: Well, there is a file in /etc/init
[12:35]  * penguin42 fails to find which pacakage does the workspace switcher
[12:36] <yofel> erm, shouldn't that be 'local-filesystem*s*' ?
[12:37] <yofel> mountall does 'emits local-filesystems' after all
[12:37] <kklimonda> good afternoon folks, how is maverick today?
[12:38] <penguin42> yofel: I'm fairly sure I haven't edited that
[12:38] <yofel> working here, broken for others
[12:38] <yofel> penguin42: then add the 's' and see if it starts
[12:38] <yofel> bug probably
[12:38] <penguin42> yofel: Want to submit a one character patch?
[12:39] <yofel> I could, but I'll first look at the package source
[12:39] <BUGabundo> hey kklimonda. long time no see
[12:40] <BUGabundo> cwillu poke.. need more BTRFS lessons
[12:40] <penguin42> kklimonda: A bit tempremental here; nothing too serious I guess
[12:40]  * cwillu pokes back
[12:40] <yofel> ubuntu-only change, would be a simple fix if it works
[12:40] <BUGabundo> cwillu I don't get this :(
[12:40] <cwillu> which what?
[12:40] <BUGabundo> I can't use btrfs tools for anything
[12:41] <BUGabundo> or I'm really stupid
[12:41] <BUGabundo> cwillu anything I put  / on it
[12:41] <BUGabundo> gives an error
[12:41] <yofel> btrfs can't boot without ext /boot afaik
[12:41] <cwillu> what are doing?
[12:41] <BUGabundo> even the subvolume snap you showed me
[12:41] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: hey my portugese friend, how have you been?
[12:41] <cwillu> what's the context?
[12:41] <BUGabundo> yofel: it is, don't worry
[12:41] <yofel> k
[12:41] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: getting blinder :(
[12:42] <BUGabundo> cwillu $ btrfs subvolume snapshot / ~/snapshot2
[12:42] <kklimonda> BUGabundo:aren't we all? is it serious?
[12:42] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: no idea yet. need to schedule a consult
[12:42] <BUGabundo> my left eye is getting worse
[12:42] <cwillu> BUGabundo, run as root?
[12:42] <BUGabundo> didn't expect that after just 3 years of laser
[12:42] <BUGabundo> cwillu no... neither did the 1st time
[12:43] <cwillu> BUGabundo, you can't snapshot without root
[12:43] <BUGabundo> cwillu that worked .\
[12:43]  * BUGabundo is stupid
[12:43]  * cwillu huggles
[12:43] <cwillu> it's okay, we'll find you a brain some day :p
[12:44] <BUGabundo> all my lang packs have gone crazy :\  I added PT support, and it changed OS wide lang too... removed it, and now perl complains it doenst have ENG :S
[12:44] <BUGabundo> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[12:44] <BUGabundo> 	LANGUAGE = "en",
[12:44] <BUGabundo> 	LC_ALL = (unset),
[12:44] <BUGabundo> 	LANG = "pt_PT.utf8"
[12:44] <BUGabundo>     are supported and installed on your system.
[12:44] <BUGabundo> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[12:44] <kklimonda> you still seem to have some pt locales set
[12:45] <kklimonda> and I love this warning, in the old days of debian I've seen it all the time (because I've been to stupid to fix it)
[12:46] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: also I don't think that there is the "en" locale
[12:46] <cwillu> where _is_ that set?
[12:46] <kklimonda> but i don't have access to my computer to check it
[12:46] <cwillu> I've got a box that had a bunch of broken updates due to a dpkg bug, haven't been able to figure that one out
[12:48] <BUGabundo> I've tried to reinstall eng lang packs but no go
[12:48] <BUGabundo> will try to reconfigure perl
[12:48] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: but where do you have "en set?
[12:49] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: shouldn't it be en_US or something similar?
[12:49] <BUGabundo> no idea
[12:49] <BUGabundo> I used the lang support app
[12:49] <kklimonda> hum
[13:17] <mrand> I have installed 10.10 on a very old test laptop (ATI RAGE)... it boots to the background/wallpaper, but nothing more - no menu bar or anything is fired off.  Ideas?
[13:18] <htrejh> hi
[13:18] <htrejh> i have no sound on kubuntu maverick beta at all
[13:18] <htrejh> all levels are at max, what can be the problem?
[13:25] <BUGabundo> I think I'm getting myself a Desire HD
[13:25] <BUGabundo> anyone else?
[13:25] <BUGabundo> should I expect CM for it too ?
[13:25] <BUGabundo> oops wrong window
[13:25] <kklimonda> :)
[13:26] <BUGabundo> tabs are next to each other, on my top list
[14:09] <rcsheets> Booting the maverick beta desktop x64 disc gives me "General error mounting filesystems" and a maintenance shell.
[14:11] <dennisn>  I just installed beta 10.10, i think successfully ... but when i boot it up, after i login (graphically), i don't get a desktop
[14:12] <dennisn> (just the wallpaper, and a mouse cursor :s)
 the whole backtrack is useless ubuntu is be
[14:12] <BajK> Since today 10.10 finally is working again and no longer crashing when starting X but why are the tray icons not black and white but colored as they were in kde 4.4?
[14:17] <dennisn> (thoughts? Xorg and gnome-panel etc all seem to be running ... just not shown :s)
[14:18] <dennisn> (compiz is running and using the most memory)
[14:18] <BajK> Is there a way of getting virtualbox video working in 10.10?)
[14:18] <BUGabundo> BajK: broken again?
[14:20] <BajK> BUGabundo: broken again?
[14:21] <BUGabundo> it was broken a while ago
[14:21] <BUGabundo> and fixed
[14:21] <BUGabundo> so I'm finding it strange it doesn't work for you
[14:21] <BajK> BUGabundo: you mean vboxvideo? i did not try it so far because my 10.10 was broken, since today it is working again, i'll give the gues extensions a try
[14:22] <BajK> desktop effects work (shadows, no blurr or desktop cube) but i cannot choose any resolution higher than 800x600
[14:23] <BajK> Your system does not seem to be set up to build kernel modules. and then unknown version of the X window system kinstalled, not installing x window system drivers
[14:23] <BajK> ok, forgot to install the updates
[14:24] <BajK> but then what is that option "Install updates when installing" in setup? I just ran "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and still got bout 400 mb of updates
[14:24] <BUGabundo> BajK: sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[14:24] <BUGabundo> and TAKE A GOOD LOOK at what its REMOVING
[14:25] <BajK> but what'S the point of the "install updates automatically" option in setup when I get 400 mb of updats anyway?
[14:32] <BUGabundo> ehe
[14:32] <dennisn> (i solved it by apt-get removing compiz-core libdecoration0
[14:32] <dennisn> )
[14:32] <BUGabundo> its security updates only
[14:32] <BUGabundo> I think
[14:33] <BajK> still updating...
[14:34] <BUGabundo> theres a PPA for the flash update!? what the heck
[14:34] <BajK> restarting
[14:34] <BajK> plymouth still does not work as it did in alfa 4
[14:35] <BajK> now i always get a message "KDE Daemon closed unexpectedly" at statup
[14:36] <BUGabundo> https://edge.launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
[14:36] <BajK> why can't i now activate desktop effects when vsync is off?
[14:37] <cwryuu> oh my.. time to figure out why pidgin doesn't want to accept scim input while using a ghetto gedit workaround
[14:37] <elitrou> hi, i'm experiencing some problems with mobile broadband in maverick - anyone willing to help?
[14:39] <Ian_corne> BUGabundo: chrome still has the old one then :)
[14:40] <duffydack> BUGabundo, thats the same one that had the beta..yeah been updated
[14:40] <BUGabundo> I follow labs site with a feed
[14:40] <BUGabundo> so when ever its updated I download it and extract to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[14:40] <duffydack> ive had it crash though.. will see if it does it again or not, if so i`ll revert back
[14:40] <BUGabundo> no system wide acess
[14:41] <BUGabundo> but yeah, this beta is crashy as heck
[14:41] <duffydack> i stick to the apt way :)
[14:41] <BUGabundo> and many sites don't really render well on it
[14:41] <duffydack> the earlier beta few months ago was more stable.
[14:41] <duffydack> faster as well..
[14:41] <BUGabundo> no it was nt LOL
[14:41] <BUGabundo> 64bits?
[14:41] <duffydack> was for m.
[14:41] <duffydack> me
[14:41] <duffydack> yup
[14:42] <duffydack> I guess using dev chromium isnt helping it tho..
[14:42] <Ian_corne> chromium has flash build in
[14:42] <Ian_corne> and doesn't use the system one
[14:43] <Ian_corne> unless you tell it to
[14:43] <BUGabundo> Ian_corne: chrome (in windows ?) has
[14:43] <BUGabundo> not sure on linux
[14:43] <BUGabundo> AFAIK chromium does not
[14:43] <duffydack> yeah, chrome does in linux as well.
[14:44] <BUGabundo> Description:	Shockwave Flash 10.2 d161
[14:44] <BUGabundo> Priority:	1
[14:44] <BUGabundo> Location:	/home/bugabundo/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[14:44] <BUGabundo> I see no other there , and I don't have npwrapper
[14:53] <BajK> is that smart little Window menubar widget (that replaces the menu bars of windows with a global button supposed to be supported in 10.10 in destktop shell as well or is it netbook-only?
[14:54] <JontheEchidna> BajK: it works with the desktop too.
[14:55] <BajK> but not on 10.04 as I did not get it to work?
[14:58] <JontheEchidna> It requires Qt 4.7 to work, which 10.04 didn't have
[15:01] <BajK> BUGabundo: lol, now graphics are broken, just as i started install
[15:01] <BajK> of vbox additns
[15:01] <Ian_corne> BUGabundo: chromium does too I think
[15:01] <Ian_corne> at least mine does :p
[15:02] <BajK> it still says "your system does not seem to be set up to build kernel modules" and "Unknown version of X window system installed"
[15:04] <BajK> okay gcc was missing
[15:04] <BajK> now it seems to build something
[15:06] <BUGabundo> a missing dependecy on build essencials?
[15:06] <BajK> seems so
[15:07] <BUGabundo> track it down, and file a bug
[15:07] <BajK> can i force it to install x window system drivers
[15:07]  * BUGabundo goes back to trying to decrypt support messages
[15:07] <BajK> BUGabundo: where to post that bugreport? and how to track it? it's just that gcc was not installed. sudo apt-get install gcc fixed that
[15:07] <BUGabundo> either virtualbox
[15:07] <BUGabundo> ok dkms
[15:08] <BUGabundo> *or
[15:08] <BUGabundo> make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed
[15:09] <BajK> BUGabundo: why ubuntu-desktop? i have kubuntu.
[15:09] <ItsYou> :)
[15:09] <BUGabundo> what ever your -desktop metapackage is
[15:09] <BUGabundo> I was going to fix the lingo... though I didn't need
[15:09] <BUGabundo> now I know
[15:15] <alex_mayorga> is flash 64 now packaged?
[15:15] <alex_mayorga> if so, what's the package name?
[15:16] <BUGabundo> alex_mayorga: not oficially
[15:17] <BUGabundo> just get the tar and extract it at ~/.mozilla/plugins
[15:17] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: PPA?
[15:17] <BUGabundo> there's a ppa for it, but I don't trust PPA from ppl I don't know
[15:17] <BUGabundo> https://edge.launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
[15:17] <theconartist> my usb-creator is stuck on some nonexistant /dev/sr0 drive and i can't change to an iso
[15:17] <theconartist> anyone know anything?
[15:17] <BUGabundo> kill it ?
[15:17] <BUGabundo> usually it carries on
[15:18] <theconartist> kill what?
[15:18] <BUGabundo> that thread
[15:18] <theconartist> no
[15:18] <BUGabundo> ps axuw is your friend
[15:18] <theconartist> its not crashed or anything
[15:18] <theconartist> i just go and pick the new file
[15:18] <theconartist> and it doesnt show up
[15:18] <BUGabundo> its stuck, I knwo, i'v read it
[15:20] <theconartist> ?
[15:21] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: do you use the tar from Adobe?
[15:21] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: how bad is it?
[15:22] <BUGabundo> alex_mayorga: worse then the old one
[15:22] <BUGabundo> crashes more, and some sites fail to render
[15:22] <BUGabundo> but heck give it a try
[15:23] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: I see, guess I'll stick to my project of how many days can I live without the plug-in
[15:23] <alex_mayorga> I would be as stubborn as "El Jobso" and just don't install it until something really forces me to :)
[15:24] <BUGabundo> AHAH
[15:24] <BUGabundo> yeah, I did that work
[15:24] <BUGabundo> lasted a few months
[15:24] <BUGabundo> till I was forced to test an pre-production site
[15:24] <alex_mayorga> my kernel panicked on the previous boot, how to report?
[15:24] <BUGabundo> see kernel.1.log ?
[15:25] <alex_mayorga> I see /var/log/kern.log.1
[15:26] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: is that it?
[15:26] <BUGabundo> should be
[15:26] <alex_mayorga> just attach it to a launchpad bug?
[15:27] <BUGabundo> alex you have been here around almost as long as me :P
[15:27] <BUGabundo> you should know a bit more
[15:27] <BUGabundo> ubuntu-bug linux would do it for  u
[15:27] <BUGabundo> and collect all it needs
[15:27] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: slow learner over here :D
[15:27] <BUGabundo> cwillu poke
[15:27] <BUGabundo> I'm free to learn more trick about BTRFS
[15:29] <alex_mayorga> "This is not a genuine Ubuntu package" :O
[15:30] <BUGabundo> what kernel do you have?
[15:31] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: 2.6.35-20-generic
[15:31] <alex_mayorga> actually I've just finished updating
[15:31] <BUGabundo> !info linux
[15:31] <BUGabundo> yeah OLD kernel
[15:31] <BUGabundo> eheh
[15:31] <BUGabundo>  reboot
[15:31] <alex_mayorga> let me reboot and pray for it not to happen again
[15:31] <alex_mayorga> BRB
[15:31] <BUGabundo> apport needs a way to FORCE bugs
[15:32] <BUGabundo> and not complain about that
[15:32] <BUGabundo> speacilly for PPAs
[15:44] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, i built a different sort of package for flash 64, which is a full replacement for both arches rather than a standalone 64-bit installer
[15:45] <bjsnider> https://launchpad.net/~brandonsnider/+archive/experimental-flash
[15:45] <bjsnider> that installs the plugin that matches the arch you're using, without adding nsplauginwrapper
[15:50] <BUGabundo> nice
[16:09] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I'm thinking about upgrading and am running Nvidia gfx card...are there any known issues at the moment?
[16:45] <amabo> anyone know offhand where the executables are located for application shortcuts from google chrome?
[16:48] <jonkri> hey everyone. i'm on windows trying to install ubuntu 10.10. i have no cd/dvd drive, only a usb stick. i used these instructions [ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick ] and unetbootin. when booting i get an error saying "ubuntu boot halts at no init found. try passing init= bootarg". i have also tried preparing the usb stick on fedora, and with liveusb creater. anyone got any advice for me?
[16:49] <penguin42> jonkri: Did the one created from Fedora give the same error?
[16:49] <jonkri> penguin42: yes. i have also tried reformatting the usb stick to fat
[16:50] <jonkri> oh, by the way, i'm using the regular standard cdrom iso file
[16:54] <bjsnider> amabo, probably /usr/bin/chrome
[16:55] <amabo> bjsnider: that's an executable, not a folder
[16:56] <bjsnider> amabo, i guess i'm not clear about what you're asking
[16:56] <amabo> bjsnider: you can save websites as applications and i'm wondering where there executable files are stored
[16:57] <KukuNut> amabo: where you saved them
[16:57] <bjsnider> anything the browser is doing while you run it is going to be saved somewhere in your userland
[16:57] <bjsnider> so, for example, $HOME/.chrome
[16:57] <KukuNut> amabo: those are just files that opens with your default browser
[16:57] <amabo> KukuNut: i don't know where that might be =\ and "which <website name
[16:57] <amabo>  doesn't work
[16:58] <KukuNut> amabo: save it again and in the dialog it ask you where? or in your config find out where it is
[16:59] <amabo> KukuNut: i mean, it saves it in the application menu...
[16:59] <amabo> KukuNut: found it :)
[16:59] <KukuNut> amabo: ???
[17:00] <KukuNut> eureka!!!
[17:01] <KukuNut> amabo: application menu?? you mean bookamrk toolbar?
[17:01] <KukuNut> *bookmark
[17:02] <amabo> it's /opt/google/chrome
[17:07] <KukuNut> amabo: normally /opt/google/chrome is owned by root..so you must be root to save to it
[17:14] <amabo> can anyone help me out in installing the dockbarx for maverick repository located at http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/247546 ?
[17:17] <dubbydubby> hey anyone I have compiz turned on and opengl applications blink
[17:18] <penguin42> dubbydubby: Which graphics card, and 32 or 64bit OS ?
[17:18] <dubbydubby> 64 bit ati
[17:18] <dubbydubby> 64 bit os .. ati graphix
[17:18] <penguin42> 32bit or 64bit apps?
[17:19] <dubbydubby> most likely 64 bit apps
[17:19] <dubbydubby> lemme check synaptic
[17:19] <penguin42> ok, I know that the 64bit apps just got fixed in the very latest version of mesa
[17:19] <penguin42> oh, open source or frglx ?
[17:20] <dubbydubby> open source but could go to frglx if necessary
[17:20] <dubbydubby> fglrx..
[17:21] <penguin42> dubbydubby: So I use the open source ones, and the 64bit apps have just stopped flickering in the latest mesa version but the 32 bit apps (e.g. google earth ) still flicker because ia32-libs haven't updated - but I don't run compiz
[17:21] <dubbydubby> alrighty
[17:22] <dubbydubby> google earth on synaptic is 32 bit?
[17:22] <u456503> hi all, I used this tutorial: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild to build the kernel but no success. I have seen there is some patches: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.36-rc4-maverick/ but I do not know how to appy
[17:22] <penguin42> dubbydubby: I'm reasonably sure it is
[17:22] <dubbydubby> alright then thats the problem, my mistake 32 bit apps
[17:22] <dubbydubby> ill check release sched for ia32-libs
[17:23] <penguin42> dubbydubby: I've got a bug against it - hang on
[17:23] <penguin42> bug 626943
[17:24] <penguin42> hey, I've got compiz turned on, ooh it works!
[17:31] <amabo> can anyone help me out in installing the dockbarx for maverick repository located at http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/247546 ?
[18:10] <bullgard4> Does the theme Human-Clearlooks have white menu items with black letters?
[18:30] <edgy> Hi, chromium-browser
[18:30] <edgy> Gtk-Message: (for origin information, set GTK_DEBUG): failed to retrieve property `gtk-enable-event-sounds' of type `gboolean' from rc file value "((GString*) 0x7f7c670e1b00)" of type `gboolean' Gtk-Message: (for origin information, set GTK_DEBUG): failed to retrieve property `gtk-enable-input-feedback-sounds' of type `gboolean' from rc file value "((GString*) 0x7f7c670e1940)" of type `gboolean'
[18:30] <edgy> Attempting to load the system libmoon Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[18:30] <edgy> is it only me?
[18:31] <BUGabundo> it is
[18:31] <BUGabundo> its working fine here
[18:31] <BUGabundo> try a clean profile
[18:31] <BUGabundo> chromium-browser --temp-profile
[18:31] <edgy> BUGabundo: ok I had that error so I updated to chromimum ppa. let me remove it and go back and retest ...
[18:32] <BUGabundo> no need
[18:32] <BUGabundo> try that 1st
[18:32] <edgy> BUGabundo: how can I delete the old profile?
[18:32] <BUGabundo> it will tell you if is is profile or sw
[18:32] <BUGabundo> no need to delete it just yet
[18:32] <BUGabundo> run that
[18:32] <BUGabundo> it will open a new profile
[18:32] <edgy> BUGabundo: rm .config/chromium -rf ?
[18:33] <BUGabundo> you don't really like your profile do you ?
[18:33] <BUGabundo> :p
[18:33] <edgy> BUGabundo: yes I have nothing special
[18:34] <edgy> BUGabundo: yes I did that but still same error
[18:34] <BUGabundo> cwillu how do I delete a snapshot ? :S
[18:34] <BUGabundo> just rm it ?
[18:34] <edgy> BUGabundo: ah! id din't notice your --temp-profile let me try that
[18:34] <BUGabundo> ok
[18:34] <BUGabundo> so its not profile edgy
[18:34] <BUGabundo> its the browser or some pluging
[18:34]  * BUGabundo facepalm
[18:35] <edgy> BUGabundo: same erorr, yes it's not profile then. I guess its related to a plugin may be how can I figure it out!
[18:35] <BUGabundo> install dbg libs for it
[18:35] <BUGabundo> !gdb
[18:35] <BUGabundo> !debug
[18:35] <edgy> BUGabundo: ok let me try that
[18:35] <BUGabundo> there you go
[18:36] <BUGabundo> and run chromium-browser --debug --temp-profile
[19:04] <Trewas> hehe, bug 615300 is a strong contender for most retarded feature in maverick
[19:04] <edgy> BUGabundo: you know the bug is very clear but I didn't notice, the messages says Attempting to load the system libmoon Segmentation fault (core dumped) so I removed moonlight plugin and it works!
[19:07] <BUGabundo> doh
[19:13] <edgy> BUGabundo: thanks for your care
[19:13] <BUGabundo> ehe
[19:13] <edgy> Now if I can find some help in resolving my alc888 sound issues ;)
[19:16] <BUGabundo> don't look at me
[19:17] <bullgard4> Does the theme Human-Clearlooks have white menu items with black letters?
[19:17] <BUGabundo> ??
[19:21] <bjsnider> bulldog98, one way to find out is to activate it
[19:23] <bjsnider> edgy, what did they tell you in #ubuntu-audio-dev?
[19:23] <edgy> bjsnider: I didn't found that channel
[19:24] <bjsnider> it could be sound-dev
[19:24] <bjsnider> there's a channel anyway
[19:24] <bjsnider> this is not the channel for that stuff
[19:24] <u456503_> hi all, I want to compile the mainline kernel on ubuntu 10.10
[19:25] <edgy> bjsnider: I coudn't find the suitable channel but I know there is a guy here callled crimsun_ who can help but I couldn't find him ;)
[19:26] <u456503_> thanks ...
[19:29] <BUGabundo> you mean #ubuntu-audio-*HELP* ?
[19:54] <WillWork4Foo> hi all... anyone about?
[19:59] <BUGabundo> no
[20:01] <vish> no one
[20:06] <WillWork4Foo> clearly not. I am wondering if I'm the only one (doubt it) that can't get 10.10beta booting on my netbook?
[20:08] <penguin42> WillWork4Foo: Various people have had problems - which particular problem have you had?
[20:09] <WillWork4Foo>  I've tried using unetbootin and the universal USB installer recommended by Ubuntu's site. When I boot from USB on 10.10beta, it just hangs. Really really early in the boot process.
[20:09] <WillWork4Foo> Exactly the same USB stick, same programs, same netbook with 10.04 and 10.04.1 - no problems at all, boots straight up
[20:10] <penguin42> WillWork4Foo: Any debug or just a black screen?
[20:10] <WillWork4Foo> no debug whatsoever.
[20:10] <WillWork4Foo> feels like it's doing it right when it passes from the bootstrap over to the kernel
[20:11] <WillWork4Foo> I get the ISOLINUX stuff, but then when I expect the bootloader menu to appear, it doesn't.
[20:11] <penguin42> WillWork4Foo: Now I can't remember the thumb drive boot sequence, but if you can try removing the quiet nosplash off the kernel line then you might get some, you can also try some options like nomodeset
[20:11] <WillWork4Foo> penguin42, I'll give that a try. Hopefully the final release won't have these problems! Bit of a step backwards if 10.04 will install but 10.10 won't!
[20:12] <penguin42> WillWork4Foo: Indeed, there are still plenty of problems - but make sure you report the bug, if no one knows it's broke it can't get fixed
[20:12] <WillWork4Foo> penguin42, where's the best place to report that?
[20:13] <penguin42> WillWork4Foo: Probably the best is if 10.04 works then from that run ubuntu-bug ubiquity     and then report the bug against Maverick - ubiquity is the installer and I think is the place to put early hangs from the installer
[20:14] <bullgard4> bjsnider: No sir. I'd like to know how it looks in your Maverick. How it looks in my computer, I already know. And a local computer friend told me that his display image looks quite differently. So I want to know if my configuration is at fault or his.
[20:16]  * penguin42 goes
[20:29] <luca> hi to everyone
[20:29] <luca> I have tried to update some time earlier this evening (speaking from Italy), and currently my kernel cannot be installed/upgraded
[20:30] <luca> it complains about not configured dependencies, specifically linux-image, which however cannot be installed
[20:34] <nacho> hey guys
[20:34] <nacho> I'm getting this error when I try to build a gtk+ app:
[20:34] <nacho> libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la' or unhandled argument `/usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la'
[20:34] <nacho> do you know why?
[20:34] <nacho> of course that .la doesn't exists
[20:34] <nacho> just the .so
[20:42] <luca> join #ubuntu-dev
[20:42] <luca> \join #ubuntu-dev
[20:43] <guntbert> luca: its /join ...
[20:43] <luca> sorry guntbert
[20:43] <luca> too much time without IRC :)
[20:43] <luca> found it anyway, thanks
[20:43] <guntbert> luca: no problem :)
[20:44] <luca> anyone with my same problem with the kernel?
[20:45] <bcurtiswx> im looking for the way in maverick to get to what https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixShowAllUsers <-- that says
[20:45] <bcurtiswx> there's no more gnome-system-tools
[20:49] <DanaG> weird... ubuntu-desktop depends on unavailable doc-base.
[20:51] <DanaG> oh, had to apt-get clean.
[20:52] <DanaG> gdbm fatal: lseek error
[20:56] <duffydack> oo oo, that nice new menu in netbook UI is nice..
[20:56] <DanaG> Heh, it doesn't work at all on my netbook... it just hangs.
[20:56] <DanaG> I see the ubuntu button, then window buttons, then indicators on the right.
[20:56] <DanaG> And a blank panel on the left.
[20:57] <DanaG> ANd if I vt-switch away and back, it hangs blank white.
[20:57] <DanaG> Or rather, unity goes blank white.
[20:58] <DanaG> And on my laptop with fglrx, unity gets filled with garbage all the time.
[20:58] <DanaG> Take random bits of video memory and slice them up... and then spatter them all over the screen.
[20:58] <duffydack> I cant even install fglrx
[21:02] <DanaG> Weird... whenever I boot, my root goes read-only!
[21:02] <Tetsuo55> hey something wierd just happened
[21:02] <Tetsuo55> i checked for updates, and it download almost 13 MB of data, only to tell me no updates where available
[21:02] <Tetsuo55> usually it will only download a few bytes when no updates are available
[21:03] <DanaG> init: mounted-tmp main process (829) terminated with status 1
[21:03] <DanaG> mountall: Event failed
[21:13] <DanaG> ###!!! ABORT: XINERAMAIsActive: BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error): file /builds/slave/linux_build/build/toolkit/xre/nsX11ErrorHandler.cpp, line 190
[21:17] <DanaG> argh, firefox...
[21:27] <duffydack> nice.. "get a link to the song on ubuntu one".. nice.
[21:27] <duffydack> not noticed that before in rhythmbo
[21:27] <duffydack> x*
[21:34] <mikebeecham> well, finally upgraded to 10.10 - Big thumbs up so far!
[21:55] <mikebeecham> Does anyone know how to fix the 640x480 Plymouth on 10.10?
[21:55] <mikebeecham> I'm using Nvidia, which I think is the issue?
[21:55] <jpds> mikebeecham: http://www.netsplit.com/2010/03/30/all-about-kernel-mode-setting/
[21:56] <mikebeecham> thanks..but in english? :D
[21:57] <jpds> nVidia didn't implement the KMS feature which is used to determine what resolution your monitor should be at.
[21:57] <mikebeecham> ahhh ok
[21:57] <mikebeecham> i did notice that the issue was occurant on 10.04, but all the fixes either didnt work right, or cause other issues
[21:58] <mikebeecham> I was kind of hoping that someone may have been done to fix this issue on 10.10 for nvidia card owners
[21:58] <jpds> It's a hardware issue, I believe.
[21:58] <Ian_corne> And you don't want it set fixed, because if you change monitors, it'll break :p
[21:59] <mikebeecham> sure
[21:59]  * Ian_corne wonders why grub doesn't use the same thing
[21:59] <mikebeecham> it's not a showstopper to be honest, it's just that Canonical et al have gone to so much trouble to make a nice plymouth, it would be good to see it as it should be
[22:00] <jpds> mikebeecham: Poke nVidia harder.
[22:00] <mikebeecham> jpds, I'lll start poking first, then poke harder later if they dont respond!
[22:02] <duffydack> Nice...just installed netbook 10.10.. wireless driver already installed.. nice
[22:22] <duffydack> having said that..its the age old not connecting problem back again...ugh.
[22:27] <tuga3d> hi all, i'm using nouveau driver. is there any gui to change properties?
[22:31] <Ian_corne>  gnome-display-properties
[22:31] <Ian_corne> System->Preferences->Monitors
[22:36] <tuga3d> thnks Ian_corne
[22:40] <duffydack> Just tried 'remote desktop' again and I see its still as slow and useless as ever.  disappointed it has been the same forever
[22:41] <cwillu> BUGabundo, you there?
[22:41] <BUGabundo> cwillu ping
[22:41] <BUGabundo> pong
[22:41] <cwillu> hey
[22:41] <cwillu> !info btrfs-progs
[22:41] <BUGabundo> putting MLs mail in order
[22:41] <cwillu> !info btrfs-tools
[22:41] <BUGabundo> ahah
[22:41] <BUGabundo> no man for that :P
[22:42] <BUGabundo> but can I delete a snapshot as a regular folder?
[22:42] <cwillu> BUGabundo, it's the btrfs command
[22:42] <BUGabundo> cause its not a volume, is it ?
[22:42] <cwillu> you can delete the contents
[22:42] <BUGabundo> I've rad its man sevarl times
[22:42] <cwillu> a snapshot is a subvolume that's cow'd from an existing subvolume
[22:42] <cwillu> sec
[22:42] <kklimonda> mm.. another Canonicalgate - now with the Evolution signature :/
[22:42] <BUGabundo> eeeewwwwww
[22:43] <BUGabundo> my dmesg is filled with WiFi prob
[22:43] <cwillu> btrfs subvolume delete <subvolume>
[22:43] <BUGabundo> $ dmesg | pastebinit
[22:43] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/496696/
[22:43] <BUGabundo> cwillu sudo ?
[22:43] <cwillu> generally :p
[22:43] <cwillu> there's a patch to make it not require root under the same constraints as rmdir, but it's not committed yet
[22:44] <BUGabundo> done
[22:44] <BUGabundo> ok
[22:44] <BUGabundo> 3 snaps deleted
[22:44] <cwillu> now, snapshots are deleted asyncronously
[22:44] <BUGabundo> I know
[22:44] <BUGabundo> sync help
[22:44] <duffydack> at least if they are gonna go that router, make a decent commercial for either web and or tv.
[22:44] <BUGabundo> *s
[22:44] <cwillu> sync won't help, no
[22:45] <duffydack> router=route
[22:45] <cwillu> i.e., the syscall returns immediately, but the space is reclaimed by a kernel thread
[22:45] <BUGabundo> btrfs sync?
[22:45] <cwillu> nope
[22:45] <BUGabundo> I'm in no worry
[22:45] <cwillu> sync isn't related to this :)
[22:45] <BUGabundo> even if is a SSD
[22:45] <cwillu> there's probably going to be a flag added to determine if it waits for not
[22:46] <BUGabundo> okay
[22:46] <BUGabundo> now I need to put this is working worder
[22:46] <BUGabundo> make a snapshot , make a zipable image of it, and backup
[22:47] <BUGabundo> there's btrfs-image or something right?
[22:47]  * BUGabundo feels a cold coming :(
[22:52] <cwillu> not sure
[22:52] <Wubbbi> MarkDude: Hey :)
[22:52] <cwillu> I usually just rsync a snapshot to another location, or tar it up the old way
[22:52] <cwillu> I know somebody was working on a 'direct to btrfs image' tool, but I don't think that's what btrfs-image is
[22:53] <DanaG> say, is ppa.launchpad.net alive?  Seems dead to me.
[22:58] <cwillu> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ppa.launchpad.net
[22:58] <BUGabundo> $ btrfs-image
[22:58] <BUGabundo> usage: btrfs-image [options] source target
[23:00] <cwillu> btrfs-image: invalid option -- '-'
[23:00] <cwillu> usage: btrfs-image [options] source target
[23:00] <cwillu> 	-r      	restore metadump image
[23:00] <cwillu> 	-c value	compression level (0 ~ 9)
[23:00] <cwillu> 	-t value	number of threads (1 ~ 32)
[23:02] <Seven_Six_Two> I've got 2 10.10 x86-32 boxes and 2 10.10 x86-64 laptops. I'd like them to share update downloads. What is the easiest way?
[23:02] <ajmitch> ls -la
[23:03] <MarkDude> DAmn missed Wubi
[23:03] <cwillu> Seven_Six_Two, you'd need 32bit installs on all of them;  there are some packages which are shared between both arches, but I'd expect the bulk of the space to be arch dependent packages
[23:04] <Seven_Six_Two> cwillu, would they not separate like they do on the mirror? Even if they went to the same place, they would still have a different name. Or is it some index file that would cause probs?
[23:05] <Seven_Six_Two> ok, so if we assume they're all 32 bit, what would be suggested?
[23:06] <cwillu> setting up a mirror of some kind;  apt-cacher
[23:06] <cwillu> !info apt-cacher
[23:06] <cwillu> !info apt-cacher-ng
[23:06] <mikebeecham> guys, where has the software sources gone in 10.10?
[23:06] <Seven_Six_Two> oh hey, that looks like what I'm looking for, I'll check it out. Thanks cwillu
[23:10] <RBecker> Hey guys, I just updated to 10.10 Beta from 10.04, and now GDM/X won't start.  Any ideas?
[23:13] <SaRy> mikebeecham, you can added it from the main Menu
[23:13] <mikebeecham> SaRy, thanks mate
[23:13] <mikebeecham> I ended up finding it in the software centre!
[23:13] <mikebeecham> lol
[23:14] <SaRy> Yeah , there too :)
[23:15] <SaRy> RBecker, have you tried to restart GDM
[23:15] <RBecker> How would I do that?
[23:15] <RBecker> what init.d file is it
[23:15] <RBecker> gdm?
[23:17] <SaRy> something like ..  /etc/init.d/gdm
[23:17] <SaRy> maybe ..
[23:17] <RBecker> ok, `restart gdm` gives gdm start/running, process 3494
[23:17] <RBecker> and tty7 is sitting there saying Ubuntu 10.10, with one orange dot, and 3 white
[23:18] <RBecker> `service gdm stop` then `service gdm start` gives the same thing, except now the PID is 3735
[23:21] <RBecker> SaRy: ^
[23:22] <ratdog> anyone, 10.10, tried to install ATi driver, now i can only login on text mode...
[23:22] <duffydack> ratdog, yup.
[23:22] <duffydack> ratdog, if by ATI you mean fglrx
[23:23] <duffydack> ratdog, remove it and reboot.
[23:23] <ratdog> duffydack yea
[23:23] <ratdog> duanedesign how
[23:23] <duffydack> its not ready yet
[23:23] <ratdog> duffydack
[23:23] <duffydack> from terminal?
[23:23] <duffydack> apt-get remove fglrx
[23:23] <RBecker> well, if I type xinit I get an x terminal
[23:24] <RBecker> so it;'s not completely dead
[23:24] <RBecker> I have an NVIDIA graphics card, is there something I can remove and try again>?
[23:24] <RBecker> Sorry for my poor typing, on a netbook
[23:25] <RBecker> duffydack: is there a package I can remove for nvidia and then try again?
[23:25] <ratdog> duffydack doies that revert back to open source ATi driver?
[23:25] <ratdog> srry
[23:25] <duffydack> RBecker, not an nvidia user..   noveau?
[23:25] <duffydack> ratdog, yes
[23:25] <RBecker> i'll try
[23:25] <ratdog> ty
[23:26] <RBecker> duffydack: unable to locate package
[23:26] <RBecker> E: Unable to locate package noveau
[23:26] <duffydack> I have no idea about nvidia.  Have not used them for eons
[23:26] <RBecker> should I try installing it?
[23:27] <duffydack> RBecker, afaik, nouveau is like the oss ati driver so should be there.
[23:27] <duffydack> did you try installing from hardware drivers applet/
[23:27] <kklimonda> yup
[23:28] <duffydack> restricted driver fail then I guess
[23:28] <RBecker> duffydack: that wasn't me
[23:28] <duffydack> I know.
[23:28] <RBecker> ok
[23:28] <duffydack> oh..
[23:28] <duffydack> nouveau
[23:29] <RBecker> when I first installed Ubuntu I had to use restricted drivers
[23:29] <duffydack> no noveau
[23:29] <RBecker> oh
[23:29] <duffydack> but still, should be there already
[23:29] <duffydack> I only know it exists, not if its any good..I`m ATI
[23:29] <duffydack> RBecker, ask kklimonda  :)
[23:29] <kklimonda> it is installed by default and in use when closed driver is disabled
[23:30] <RBecker> kklimonda: what can I do to fix this?
[23:30] <SaRy> sorry , i a phone call
[23:30] <kklimonda> RBecker: uninstall closed driver and nouveau should kick in
[23:31] <RBecker> how?
[23:31] <alket>  I cannot install LAMP with tasksel , because tasksel is missing . How do i install it
[23:31] <RBecker> what's the apt package name
[23:31] <RBecker> alket: apt-get install tasksel
[23:31] <alket> RBecker, ahh yes :Q
[23:31] <RBecker> with sudo in front of it if you're not root
[23:31] <alket> stupid question
[23:32] <alket> I mostly wanted to ask why is it missing
[23:32] <RBecker> kklimonda: how would I uninstall it? I have no GUI presently
[23:33] <kklimonda> RBecker: sudo aptitude purge nvidia-<version>
[23:33] <RBecker> so what version of the nvidia driver I have installed?
[23:34] <kklimonda> no idea - see result of dpkg -l "nvidia-*"
[23:34] <alket> I have a nVidia, it doesn't save configuration
[23:34] <alket> in Lucid it worked perfect
[23:34] <RBecker> I have 173 and 96
[23:35] <RBecker> should I purge both?
[23:35] <kklimonda> yeah
[23:35] <RBecker> kk
[23:35] <SaRy> RBecker, what happened .. i have nvidia on my dell running maverick & everything is working fine
[23:35] <kklimonda> but not modaliases
[23:35] <kklimonda> only nvidia-96 and nvidia-173
[23:35] <SaRy> it's the nvidia-current package .. 256.53
[23:35] <RBecker> kklimonda: it wants to remove libx264-85, is that fine?
[23:36] <kklimonda> no idea
[23:36] <kklimonda> you may be removing too much
[23:36] <RBecker> i'll try it
[23:36] <duffydack> I removed it
[23:36] <kklimonda> but I'm not near my computer right now so I can't really dig into it
[23:36] <RBecker> I'm assuming I need to reboot after aptitude finishes up?
[23:36] <duffydack> an upgrade made it obselete
[23:37] <SaRy>  libx264-85 : that the video coding library
[23:37] <alket> RBecker, I have 173 and 96 too
[23:37] <duffydack> once I install this 'for real' I`ll compile my own ffmpeg/x264
[23:38] <kklimonda>  
[23:39] <duffydack>   
[23:39] <RBecker>  
[23:40] <duffydack> 𝗹𝗼𝗹𝘇
[23:40] <BUGabundo> decided to empty my Kmail Trash folder.... it has been doing so for 30 minutes :S
[23:40] <RBecker> holly fack
[23:41] <RBecker> BUGabundo: sounds like a bit too much
[23:41] <duffydack> that was c̶o̶o̶l̶ pointless
[23:41] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: kde ftw ;)
[23:41] <RBecker> ok, still not working after purging those two
[23:41] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: on gnome
[23:42] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: but its writtrn by KDE guuys ;)
[23:42] <RBecker> now I'm just getting boot messages on tty7
[23:44] <alket> Too many problems with nvidia in launchpad
[23:44] <alket> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers?field.searchtext=&orderby=-datecreated&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
[23:46] <RBecker> After purging that stuff out, it's still not working
[23:57] <myk_robinson> How can i get sensors to work with my i3 processor on my laptop?
[23:59] <myk_robinson> is there a way to get Ubuntu to do nothing when it thinks the battery is low on my laptop? When I unplug, it claims the battery is dangerously low, even though it is full. Not detecting properly for some reason