[00:00] <sebsebseb> stlsaint: kisses?
[00:00] <sebsebseb> what?
[00:06] <stlsaint> sebsebseb: huh?
[00:07] <sebsebseb> stlsaint: why did you type,  kisses??
[00:07] <stlsaint> 22:27 < diana1068> im going to sleep now. thank u very much. KISSES
[00:10] <Gogi> can anyone help me?i am very new to ubuntu.
[00:11] <Gogi> pleaseee
[00:11] <stlsaint> Gogi: sure...whats up?
[02:19] <harrisonk> is there anyone here that is good at python programming?
[02:19] <pedro3005> harrisonk, define good
[02:19] <pedro3005> :)
[02:20] <harrisonk> is expereanced, has done a few programs
[02:20] <pedro3005> harrisonk, depending on your problem, I might be able to help. what is your question?
[02:20] <harrisonk> one moment
[02:21] <harrisonk> https://launchpad.net/climm
[02:21] <harrisonk> it is my take on a simple money manager
[02:22] <pedro3005> I see
[02:23] <harrisonk> I know what I want I just don't know how to get it into a working program
[02:23] <pedro3005> is there an exact problem?
[02:24] <harrisonk> check the blueprints, I can't save to a file yet and I don't have an input checker
[02:26] <harrisonk> I need to add a transaxtion manager to keep track of all the operations.
[02:29] <pedro3005> harrisonk, how much python do you know? maybe you should learn some more before trying to code a complete program
[02:33] <harrisonk> not as much as I should going into this but I know the basics like print 'hello world' and variables.
[02:33] <harrisonk> and a few other things
[02:34] <zkriesse> wazzup ya'll
[02:34] <harrisonk> python
[02:35] <zkriesse> ah
[02:35] <zkriesse> so how's everyone?
[02:35] <harrisonk> zkriesse: this: https://launchpad.net/climm
[02:35] <pedro3005> harrisonk, definitely learn more
[02:35] <harrisonk> thought so
[02:35] <zkriesse> what's this?
[02:35] <harrisonk> it is my take on a simple money manager
[02:36] <zkriesse> ah
[02:36] <harrisonk> needs a lot of work!
[02:36] <pedro3005> harrisonk, we have set up a dev academy python class. it happens weekly, saturdays at 17:00 UTC. we just had our first lesson today
[02:37] <harrisonk> 17:00 UTC what is that in easteren time US+Canada
[02:37] <harrisonk> *?
[02:38] <harrisonk> sorry I am not good with GMT and UTC
[02:38] <pedro3005> harrisonk, what time is it there right now?
[02:38] <harrisonk> 9:38 PM
[02:39] <pedro3005> harrisonk, it's 1 PM then
[02:39] <pedro3005> the classes
[02:39] <harrisonk> in my time?
[02:40] <stlsaint> harrisonk: yea 1pm in your time
[02:40] <stlsaint> pedro3005: another week of studying and im going to be coming back to ya for python projects :P
[02:41] <stlsaint> pedro3005: and dont you dare point me to zeuler or however you spell it >:P
[02:41] <harrisonk> What is the -!- mode/#ubuntu-beginners [+v zkriesse] by ChanServ about?
[02:41] <stlsaint> harrisonk: that is chanserv giving zkriesse voice to the room
[02:41] <harrisonk> or what does the +v mean?
[02:41] <pedro3005> voice
[02:41] <pedro3005> stlsaint, Project Euler ftw
[02:41] <harrisonk> okay what are some others
[02:42] <stlsaint> pedro3005: a day in the distant future maybe
[02:42] <pedro3005> harrisonk, http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/chapter4.html#c4_2_3
[02:42] <harrisonk> thanks
[02:42] <pedro3005> stlsaint, persistence!
[02:42] <stlsaint> pedro3005: lately ive just been working with the different ways to start working with methods for int and strings
[02:43] <stlsaint> pedro3005: plan on getting really familiar with slices and all its different uses
[02:43] <pedro3005> stlsaint, that's cool. try this:  some_string[::-1]
[02:44] <stlsaint> pedro3005: isnt that going to output the last letter of the string or since its two :: will that flip to the first letter of the string?
[02:44] <pedro3005> stlsaint, try. it.
[02:44] <pedro3005> :P
[02:44] <stlsaint> i remember seeing that some time ago
[02:45] <harrisonk> pedro3005: how do I get to these python meating?
[02:45] <pedro3005> harrisonk, just be at #ubuntu-classroom when it's time
[02:47] <harrisonk> where can I get a list of the classes on #ubuntu-classroom?
[02:47] <stlsaint> pedro3005: hehe, aye i knew i had seen that before ;P
[02:48] <stlsaint> pedro3005: sorted(var, reverse=True)
[02:48] <stlsaint> pedro3005: mine is "prettier" :D
[02:49] <pedro3005> harrisonk, http://is.gd/8rtIi
[02:49] <pedro3005> stlsaint, that returns a list
[02:49] <stlsaint> harrisonk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[02:50] <pedro3005> stlsaint, challenge: make it a string
[02:50] <pedro3005> :P
[02:50] <stlsaint> make what a string?
[02:51] <pedro3005> stlsaint, the returned value of your sorted function
[02:52] <stlsaint> pedro3005: that would just be what you did with ::-1
[02:53] <pedro3005> stlsaint, indeed. but if you have a list. how do you make it a string?
[02:54] <stlsaint> pedro3005: aye, one sec, i know i wil have to use .join
[02:55] <pedro3005> stlsaint, good
[02:56] <stlsaint> pedro3005: aye, got it
[02:56] <zkriesse> Bonjour theXpert
[02:56] <stlsaint> pedro3005: so my var (a) is assinged to chicken
[02:56] <stlsaint> a='chicken'
[02:56] <zkriesse> Hey guys this should be in -dev should it not?
[02:56] <stlsaint> then i use sort with reverse to flip the string
[02:57] <stlsaint> zkriesse: aye you are correct senor
[02:57] <stlsaint> zkriesse: good call
[03:03] <harrisonk> hello Haywire_
[03:04] <Haywire_> harrisonk, Hey, what's up...kinda quiet, eh?
[03:05] <harrisonk> you just mised the rush-hour
[03:05] <stlsaint> Haywire_: yo
[03:05] <harrisonk> or half hour
[03:05] <stlsaint> i was in here till zkriesse kicked me out
[03:05] <Haywire_> my stuff's all behaving...for now....just lurking..
[03:06] <stlsaint> Haywire_: cool
[03:07] <Haywire_> I might actually be getting the hang of this linux stuff...;-)  - Got mine triple booting Xubuntu, Puppy, and Win XP ...
[03:07] <stlsaint> harrisonk: a command line interface money manager??
[03:08] <harrisonk> stlsaint: yes that is what it is called
[03:08] <stlsaint> harrisonk: hrm, you may want to get your claws into pygtk and throw a front-end on that application of yours
[03:09] <harrisonk> I plan to build something like a backend for any program to put a frontend on
[03:09] <harrisonk> or rather programer
[03:10] <stlsaint> harrisonk: oh ok
[03:10] <zkriesse> lol
[03:10] <zkriesse> ok gotta go eat dinner
[03:10] <stlsaint> thats cool, can be a double edge sword though, what if a non-programmer just wants to use the program without having to write a frontend? o_O
[03:10] <harrisonk> that way people can focus on the looks and not the backend when building a money manager
[03:12] <harrisonk> stlsaint: that is a good point but someone can take this backend and put there frontend on it and the non-programer can use that program.
[03:12] <harrisonk> *their
[03:14] <stlsaint> harrisonk: well that depends on someone else taking the time to make the frontend
[03:15] <harrisonk> well that would come after the backend GTKMM would then start
[03:15] <stlsaint> harrisonk: what language are you going to use?
[03:15] <harrisonk> Programming or say english or french?
[03:16] <stlsaint> programming
[03:16] <harrisonk> python, would there be a better one?
[03:16] <stlsaint> well any language could be a better one depending on what your wanting to do but for this project i would say either python or ruby
[03:16] <stlsaint> naw, screw ruby, go with python
[03:17] <stlsaint> harrisonk: how long you been studying python?
[03:17] <harrisonk> I don't exacly know.
[03:17] <stlsaint> hrm, months..years?
[03:17] <stlsaint> weeks?
[03:18] <harrisonk> less than 1 year but getting close
[03:18] <harrisonk> off and on
[03:18] <stlsaint> oh ok, we have a -dev channel if you ever need help with something
[03:19] <harrisonk> trying to find a tutorial that doesn't go from hello world to gobily gook
[03:19] <harrisonk> -dev being #ubuntu-beginners-dev?
[03:19] <stlsaint> yep
[03:21] <harrisonk> moving away from python are you good at file system recovery?
[03:21] <stlsaint> harrisonk: aside from formatting....nope
[03:21] <stlsaint> harrisonk: puppy :D
[03:22] <harrisonk> puppy?
[03:22] <harrisonk> Puppy Linux?
[03:22] <stlsaint> harrisonk: puppy linux, Haywire_ said they were using it
[03:22] <stlsaint> aye
[03:24] <harrisonk> you have me confused, what does puppy have to do with FS recovery or python?
[03:24] <stlsaint> nvm, i just scrolled up to a comment he made earlier
[03:25] <stlsaint> harrisonk: have you checked repos?
[03:25] <harrisonk> fiar enough
[03:25] <harrisonk> *fair
[03:25] <stlsaint> harrisonk: really what do you mean file system recovery....
[03:25] <harrisonk> one moment
[03:29] <harrisonk> here is the error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/496223/
[03:30] <stlsaint> harrisonk: hrm, have you been tampering with fstab?
[03:32] <harrisonk> no
[03:32] <stlsaint> harrisonk: what filesystem is on /dev/sda5?
[03:32] <harrisonk> ext4
[03:32] <harrisonk> my root directory
[03:32] <harrisonk> (/)
[03:33] <aveilleux> why is / on sda5....
[03:33] <harrisonk> I have no idea.
[03:33] <stlsaint> ??
[03:34] <stlsaint> harrisonk: im going to need two things from you
[03:35] <stlsaint> 1. Put the output of command: sudo fdisk -l #into pastebin
[03:35] <harrisonk> okay will do
[03:35] <stlsaint> 2.Also put the contents of your /etc/fstab #file into pastebin as well
[03:36] <harrisonk> I am running a live cd on the sick system so it may take a while
[03:37] <harrisonk> pastebin.ubuntu.com/496225
[03:38] <harrisonk> I can't get the fstab file because it is on the "damanged" file system
[03:39] <stlsaint> you cant navigate to it via terminal?
[03:39] <stlsaint> you will probably have to force mount it
[03:39] <stlsaint> or you could do one better...one sec
[03:39] <harrisonk> yep
[03:41] <stlsaint> go here and download the script and run it. it is going to put a document on your desktop or in your / of livecd called RESULTS.txt, pastebin the contents of it for me
[03:41] <stlsaint> http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
[03:41] <stlsaint> ^^site
[03:42] <harrisonk> I remember that off the forums
[03:43] <stlsaint> harrisonk: yep, very useful, i ran it just to get my system info on doc for quick and easy access :D
[03:44] <harrisonk> who wrote that script?
[03:44] <harrisonk> or what is the persons nick on the forums
[03:46]  * harrisonk is working as fast as he can
[03:46] <stlsaint> harrisonk: meierfra
[03:46] <stlsaint> on forums
[03:46] <harrisonk> right that is who wrote it
[03:47] <stlsaint> yep
[03:47] <stlsaint> ddecator: sup
[03:47] <ddecator> stlsaint: nm, you?
[03:48] <stlsaint> ddecator: chilling, passed A+ exam today so im certified in it, small step but its a step none the less ;)
[03:49] <ddecator> stlsaint: very nice! what subject?
[03:49] <stlsaint> ddecator: no i mean the CompTIA A+ certification exam
[03:50] <ddecator> stlsaint: ah, gotcha. well congrats :)
[03:50] <harrisonk> stlsaint where would I find the results.txt file?
[03:51] <harrisonk> stlsaint and should it be run as root?
[03:52] <stlsaint> harrisonk: it should come up on your desktop or it might be in (/). As you are on the livecd you just have to run sudo -i to get to root
[03:52] <stlsaint> no password of course
[03:54] <harrisonk> could it be in the roots home folder?
[03:55] <stlsaint> maybe
[03:55] <harrisonk> nope not anywhere
[03:55] <harrisonk> should we try force mounting?
[03:55] <stlsaint> harrisonk: open a terminal and run: locate RESULTS.txt #yes with the capitals as such
[03:56] <harrisonk> do I include the #yes?
[03:58] <stlsaint> hehe no
[03:58] <harrisonk> ether way nothing showed
[03:58] <stlsaint> harrisonk: the results.txt will probably be where ever you ran it from...
[03:58] <stlsaint> are you sure you ran the script?
[03:59] <harrisonk> I ran it as follows: sudo sh boot_info_script055.sh
[03:59] <stlsaint> harrisonk: copy the script to your desktop and run this command: sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script*.sh
[03:59] <harrisonk> okay
[04:00] <harrisonk> it is working!
[04:01] <harrisonk> hello Mohan_chml
[04:02] <Mohan_chml> heya harrisonk. Morning/night =]
[04:02] <harrisonk> ;)
[04:02] <harrisonk> night being 11:02
[04:03] <harrisonk> how is tomorrow loking?
[04:03] <harrisonk> *looking
[04:04] <stlsaint> harrisonk: when its done you should see the results.txt on your desktop
[04:04] <harrisonk> stlsaint: it is done it's just the live cd is slow
[04:05] <Mohan_chml> harrisonk, it is morning 8:33 here :P
[04:08] <stlsaint> kk
[04:08] <stlsaint> JoeSett_: hello
[04:13] <harrisonk> stlsaint I haven't left it's just I have a lot running off a live cd (the stuff you told me to do and what I had on before.)
[04:13] <stlsaint> aye
[04:14] <harrisonk> stlsaint what is your curent time?
[04:14] <stlsaint> 10:14 pm
[04:15] <harrisonk> so that would be central time am I not right?
[04:15] <harrisonk> (in texas)
[04:16] <stlsaint> harrisonk: yep, killeen, TX
[04:17] <harrisonk> I could tell by looking at your launchpad page
[04:17] <stlsaint> oh?
[04:17] <Mohan_chml> harrisonk, whats your launchpad id?
[04:17] <stlsaint> you stalking me :P
[04:17] <harrisonk> harrbis
[04:18] <harrisonk> stlsaint no I just had a look and you where part of the texas group and I assumed you live in texas.
[04:19] <Mohan_chml> harrisonk, change the smiley under IRC
[04:19] <harrisonk> here is you pastebin.ubuntu.com/496237 with a side of eggs fried
[04:19] <JoeSett_> stlsaint: hi.
[04:19] <harrisonk> mohan_chml: say again please.
[04:19] <Mohan_chml> harrisonk, you can help when you expertise them by watching here
[04:19] <Mohan_chml> harrisonk, I am at your Wikki
[04:19] <Mohan_chml> wiki*
[04:21] <stlsaint> harrisonk: well first thing i notice is that you do not have grub installed
[04:21] <zkriesse> Wiki?
[04:21] <zkriesse> Who said wiki?!?!
[04:21] <harrisonk> where mohan_chml?
[04:21] <harrisonk> Mohan_chml did
[04:21] <zkriesse> ok..
[04:22] <Mohan_chml> harrisonk, found it?
[04:22] <zkriesse> harrisonk: what's your wiki link please
[04:22] <zkriesse> must see!
[04:22] <Mohan_chml> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Harrisonk
[04:22] <Mohan_chml> Zach^
[04:22] <zkriesse> I must see all newcomers wiki pages as I'm a wiki guru
[04:22] <harrisonk> wiki.ubuntu.com/Harrisonk
[04:23] <harrisonk> Are you now zkriesse ;)
[04:23] <zkriesse> harrisonk: lol
[04:23] <Mohan_chml> harrisonk, he will be =]
[04:23] <zkriesse> Guys, tell harrisonk what a wiki nut I am
[04:23] <zkriesse> harrisonk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/zkriesse
[04:23] <harrisonk> I can already tell
[04:23] <Mohan_chml> harrisonk, Zach has a nick ThatWikiGuy
[04:23] <Mohan_chml> I think nothing more to say :D
[04:24] <stlsaint> harrisonk: you must have installed ubuntu then installed windows again
[04:25] <stlsaint> harrisonk: actually you have a borked install in general, i highly suggest you reinstall ubuntu
[04:25] <Mohan_chml> Guys lets goto -team
[04:25] <zkriesse> Mohan_chml: good call
[04:25] <harrisonk> I reinstalled the xp boot loader so that I could boot into Xp as my brother and sisters math program is on there.
[04:26] <stlsaint> harrisonk: grub handles booting into ANYTHING on your computer
[04:26] <stlsaint> harrisonk: seems you have linux on /sda2 and /sda5 but neither are aware of each other
[04:26] <zkriesse> If it's a bootable OS, GRUB handles it
[04:27] <harrisonk> but if the file system is corupt then /boot is corupt and thus GRUB is curupted
[04:27] <stlsaint> harrisonk: you have /sda2 showing as having windows on it but its label is linux with a DOS UUID
[04:27] <harrisonk> huh!
[04:27] <stlsaint> harrisonk: you cant corrupt what you dont have
[04:28] <harrisonk> but I had it!
[04:28] <harrisonk> I will get over it and I might make more backups!
[04:28] <stlsaint> harrisonk: wait i take that back...you have a linux UUID but its contents are mixed with windows and linux
[04:29] <harrisonk> ehter way it is a lot to take in!
[04:29] <stlsaint> harrisonk: well if you want to we can take some steps to repair the system :D (though it will have to wait until tomorrow)
[04:29] <stlsaint> 1. Install grub
[04:29] <harrisonk> okay
[04:29] <stlsaint> 2. Mount that harddrive and find fstab
[04:30] <harrisonk> okay
[04:30] <stlsaint> 3. Compare fstab to what that results doc shows in the fdisk and blkid section and make sure it matches to what fstab is using
[04:30] <harrisonk> okay
[04:30] <stlsaint> 4. Update grub and reboot :D
[04:31] <stlsaint> JackStonewall: hello
[04:31] <harrisonk> Tomorrow night as I am busy all day tomorrow.
[04:31] <stlsaint> very well
[04:31] <JackStonewall> Greetings all.  Running Ubuntu Lucid and trying to figure out if there's a way to force NM to always be disabled upon boot.   I've got a klugey solution (forcing the NetworkManager.state and then restarting the service from my rc.local) but this somehow just feels wrong.  Ideas?
[04:31] <stlsaint> i can chat, but im multitasking so i cant give full attention to isse ..sorrys
[04:32] <stlsaint> JackStonewall: remove it from start apps
[04:32] <stlsaint> s/start/startup
[04:33] <JackStonewall> stlsaint: Will I still have the applet icon in my panel?
[04:34] <stlsaint> You should but it wont work until you start it
[04:34] <JackStonewall> stlsaint: Hmm... I'll give that a shot and see how that works.  Thanks for the tip.
[04:34] <stlsaint> yep yep
[04:43] <stlsaint> l8er folks
[04:55] <BBY_Lafayette> hi, i got a question about Ubuntu desktop
[04:58] <ddecator> wow, 3 minutes later and i didn't even get to ask what the question was..
[04:59] <dengaku_sco> is the reason i cant access my programs like Winamp and such because its the desktop version?
[05:03] <seidos> dengaku_sco, winamp isn't a native ubuntu application.  there are alternatives for ubuntu like rhythmbox.  if you must use winamp you can try using wine to run it.
[05:04] <dengaku_sco> well it's not just Winamp, but stuff like GIMP and games and programs ingeneral
[05:05] <Mohan_chml> dengaku_sco, you are logged in with GNOME enviroinment?
[05:05] <Mohan_chml> environment*
[05:05] <dengaku_sco> uum, no
[05:06] <temposs> Mohan_chml, he may not know what GNOME is ;-)
[05:06] <dengaku_sco> somewhat
[05:06] <seidos> not sure about 10.04, but 9.10 comes with gimp and games.
[05:07] <seidos> thought i heard some time back that gimp wasn't going to be included on a desktop install.
[05:07] <Mohan_chml> temposs, :D
[05:07] <temposs> seidos, GIMP is not included by default in 10.04
[05:07] <seidos> temposs, :(
[05:07] <temposs> but it is available in the software center, as usual
[05:07] <seidos> well, they have their reasons i'm sure.
[05:08] <dengaku_sco> i have it on the hard drive, but it wont run it like all my other Win programs
[05:08] <seidos> dengaku_sco, on the hard drive?  where on the hard drive?
[05:09] <temposs> seidos, he's copied over his programs from his Windows install, and he's trying to run all his WIndows apps
[05:09] <dengaku_sco> C\: Programs
[05:09] <Mohan_chml> dengaku_sco, you are using wine???
[05:09] <dengaku_sco> no
[05:09] <temposs> Mohan_chml, he probably doesn't know what WINE is ;-)
[05:09] <Mohan_chml> dengaku_sco, then where can you find C ??
[05:09] <dengaku_sco> a little, but i thought Linux  could run all Win proags
[05:09] <dengaku_sco> programs
[05:10] <Mohan_chml> dengaku_sco, Shall we start from scratch?
[05:10] <temposs> dengaku_sco, Linux cannot run all Windows programs
[05:10] <dengaku_sco> ahh
[05:10]  * Mohan_chml needs two minutes silence
[05:10] <Mohan_chml> dengaku_sco, Let me explain about Ubuntu first
[05:10] <dengaku_sco> ..k
[05:12] <Mohan_chml> ubuntu has the file structure as / , /home , /root , /boot and you can find it by going to File System in Computer which you can find it in places
[05:13] <Mohan_chml> Ubuntu runs applications with the extension .deb
[05:13] <dengaku_sco> ok
[05:13] <Mohan_chml> .exe will not be executable in Ubuntu
[05:13] <dengaku_sco> ah
[05:13] <Mohan_chml> for that you can install Wine to run a windows application
[05:13] <Mohan_chml> !Wine
[05:13] <ubot2> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[05:14] <Mohan_chml> you can find the details about wine there
[05:14] <Mohan_chml> and
[05:14] <seidos> Mohan_chml, well, ubuntu runs binary files... like gimp in /usr/bin/gimp etc.
[05:14] <Mohan_chml> seidos, I dont wanna confuse him at the beginning, telling about the executables =]
[05:15] <Mohan_chml> dengaku_sco, But, you can find an alternate for whatever .exe file you like to run in your machine
[05:16] <dengaku_sco> i saw all the programs in the ..list thingy
[05:16] <dengaku_sco> didnt try them really. (im in Vista right now)
[05:17] <Mohan_chml> dengaku_sco, can you tell the path of what you mentioned? applications-> programming?
[05:17] <Mohan_chml> dengaku_sco, Okay!
[05:17] <Mohan_chml> dengaku_sco, what application you use in Win X?
[05:18] <dengaku_sco> for anything specific?
[05:19] <dengaku_sco> [hmm, i guess because the Firefox in Ubntu is a .deb thing, that's the reason it doesnt have my addons or bookmarks]
[05:22] <seidos> dengaku_sco, no, it's because ubuntu and windows don't talk to each other O_o
[05:22] <dengaku_sco> aah
[05:23] <seidos> dengaku_sco, you can export your firefox bookmarks though.  then save it somewhere on your windows drive, and then import them into firefox in ubuntu
[05:23] <seidos> assuming you can see your windows partition (piece of hard drive with windows on it), which i think you said you could.
[05:24] <dengaku_sco> been trying to fine the folder or file with the bookmarks, but i guess it's named funny
[05:24] <dengaku_sco> actually i can only really see a main file of mine
[05:24] <seidos> yeah, not sure what it would be under windows off the top of my head.
[05:24] <dengaku_sco> one i made
[05:25] <seidos> see a file in ubuntu that is on your windows partition?
[05:26] <dengaku_sco> yep. i have all my pics and install files. it's my "shove all my crud" folder
[05:28] <dengaku_sco> tho i did put a copy of it on my second in-case hard drive
[05:29] <seidos> dengaku_sco, so can you copy files from your windows partition to your ubuntu partition?
[05:29] <dengaku_sco> on my SD card
[05:29] <seidos> well, that works
[05:32] <ddecator> firefox bookmarks? use Sync
[05:32] <ddecator> no idea if that's actually relevant to what was being discussed, just throwing that out there
[05:33] <dengaku_sco> Sync?
[05:34] <ddecator> it's an add-on for 3.6 and will be built-in to 4.0, it syncs bookmarks, tabs, history, passwords (which you can enable/disable indvidually) between your desktops. so if you use firefox in multiple places, they will all stay updated
[05:34] <ddecator> also works with fennec (but that's still in development)
[05:34] <dengaku_sco> awesome, another thing i need
[05:35] <dengaku_sco> thanks dude
[05:35] <ddecator> no problem :)
[05:46] <dengaku_sco> ahh, now i see why that guys was so insistent on me using the ubntu progs
[05:46] <dengaku_sco> guy*
[05:49] <ddecator> what's that?
[05:52] <dengaku_sco> so that more ppl use the ubntu programs instead of the Win programs, so that influences more use of the ubntu. which also influences development of further ubntu programs
[05:53] <dengaku_sco> (got this from the Wine FAQ)
[05:55] <ddecator> true, plus native applications run more smoothly and look better typically
[05:56] <dengaku_sco> that too. tho i dont know. the ubnt Firefox seems to d/l webpages slower
[05:57] <ddecator> that could be an ipv6 issue, if that's still around. are you using lucid and the latest firefox?
[05:57] <seidos> could be a lot of flash on the websites you are downloading.
[05:58] <ddecator> oh flash...on that note, the new 64-bit "square" is working well for me
[06:00] <dengaku_sco> cant be flash. the ubnt Firefox doesnt have any java
[06:00] <ddecator> i've using firefox 4.0 on maverick and it's just as fast as chromium for me
[06:00] <ddecator> icedtea is the opensource version of java, and flash is included in the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[06:00] <ddecator> i've been using*
[06:02] <dengaku_sco> java is restricted on ubnt?
[06:02] <ddecator> you can use the standard java, but icedtea is the one that is included (i think) and should work fine
[07:08] <dengaku_sco> well, thanks for the help ll that helped. ill be back if i have more questions
[07:41] <AbhiJit> hi
[07:41] <Mohan_chml> hello AbhiJit
[07:42] <AbhiJit> :)
[08:24] <bdogg> can someone help me with an issue i have with the login screen?
[08:24] <AbhiJit> bdogg, what is it?
[08:24] <bdogg> the resolution is wrong for the login screen
[08:24] <bdogg> seems to bet set at 1024X748
[08:24] <bdogg> (cant really tell)
[08:25] <bdogg> but my default setting is 1440X900
[08:25] <bdogg> how can i fix it
[08:26] <Mohan_chml> bdogg, you can edit GRUB
[08:26] <bdogg> what do you mean
[08:27] <bdogg> i dont really think it has to do with grub
[08:27] <AbhiJit> bdogg, install this https://launchpad.net/gdm2setup and see if you can change resolution from there
[08:27] <bdogg> because when the pythom theme load
[08:27] <AbhiJit> bdogg, after installing you will find it in system>preferences>gdm2long
[08:27] <Mohan_chml> bdogg, its a try
[08:27] <bdogg> *loads
[08:27] <bdogg> the screen resolution is normal
[08:28] <bdogg> im using maverick btw
[08:28] <AbhiJit> :o
[08:28] <Mohan_chml> bdogg, try editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg , find the line GRUB_GFXMODE and set the resolution
[08:28] <AbhiJit> bdogg, ask in #ubuntu+a
[08:29] <AbhiJit> #ubuntu+1
[08:29] <bdogg> no one there -_-
[08:29] <AbhiJit> bdogg, 207 users there
[08:30] <bdogg> no one responded
[08:30] <AbhiJit> ohh
[08:30] <bdogg> lol
[08:30] <Mohan_chml> wait..! mine will not help. coz it is for boot screen
[08:30] <bdogg> yeah boot screen is fine
[08:30] <bdogg> its just the login screen for some weird reason
[08:30] <Mohan_chml> bdogg, is xorg is present in maverick??
[08:31] <Mohan_chml> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151192 i found that
[08:31] <bdogg> yes and no
[08:31] <bdogg> you have to type a special command in recovery mode
[08:31] <bdogg> but i have a Xorg file
[08:34] <Mohan_chml> bdogg, looked at the above thread?
[08:34] <bdogg> yeah
[08:34] <shadeslayer> bdogg: you dont ask a question in #ubuntu+1 and leave 5 mins later :>
[08:34] <bdogg> gonna try it in a bir
[08:35] <shadeslayer> its a weekend.. loads of people are out
[08:37] <AbhiJit> !weekend
[08:37] <ubot2> It's a weekend. Often on weekends the paid developers and a lot of the community may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would or try again during the working week.
[12:22] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[12:22] <kosaidpo> how can i kno if i have the sound driver installed ?? alisamixer ??
[12:25] <Mohan_chml> kosaidpo, lspci lists your audio?
[12:25] <Mohan_chml> open terminal and type lspci
[12:26] <kosaidpo> got this xsaiddx@xsaiddx-laptop:~$ lspci | grep audio
[12:26] <kosaidpo> 00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[12:26] <Mohan_chml> then there is no issue with driver.
[14:20] <dirty-harry> hi there, anyone here who knows how active the desktop-icon-starter-reaction in xubuntu lucid lynx
[14:23] <dirty-harry> ähm sorry, I mean "how to activate reaction" ... bad, very bad spelling
[14:31] <Mohan_chml> dirty-harry, I cant even google about what you asked. can you elaborate it?
[14:32] <Mohan_chml> and you tried asking in #xubuntu ?
[14:33] <dirty-harry> well, first of all sorry for the double... I'm in a hurry, someone wants to have her pc back
[14:34] <Mohan_chml> kay! you asked for help in #xubuntu ?
[14:39] <dirty-harry> second, the problem is that... oh maybe I'm totally brain-f*** now
[14:41] <dirty-harry> I thought I could see some kind of reaction when double-clicking on a desktop icon simular to the icons in the panel
[14:42] <hobgoblin> oic
[14:43] <dirty-harry> sorry :-/
[14:44] <hobgoblin> not sure what xubuntu uses - but I would guess that it's in one of the sys admin menus somewhere - desktop customisation or something
[14:45] <hobgoblin> you might be better off asking in #xubuntu if there's anyone awake - they'll be more likely to be able to answer without digging the answer out
[14:49] <dirty-harry> hobgoblin, thanks for your attention but I really think that I am just exaggerating here
[14:52] <dirty-harry> I know this sounds stupid but I'm a bit nervous 'cause the pc is for someone special...
[14:52] <Mohan_chml> dirty-harry, then there will be nervousness for sure ;)
[14:53] <JoeMaverickSett> dirty-harry: are you referring to the reaction when you double-click on desktop icons, they are not opening?
[14:53] <Mohan_chml> dirty-harry, you asked in #xubuntu  ?
[14:54] <dirty-harry> Mohan_chml, thx for your understanding
[14:55] <Mohan_chml> dirty-harry, and you got any solution for what you are searching for?
[14:55] <dirty-harry> JoeMaverickSett, no no, the programs are starting correctly and working correctly - as I said I'm just overdoing it...
[14:56] <JoeMaverickSett> dirty-harry: ah, okie then. :)
[14:59] <dirty-harry> yes, absolutely :)
[15:01] <dirty-harry> once again, thx a lot for your time
[15:02] <Mohan_chml> dirty-harry, =] and try make the one to get the best from the machine :)
[15:03] <dirty-harry> oh I will
[15:04] <JoeMaverickSett> dirty-harry: just like Mohan_chml try making the best out of the machine and don't quit on it. :)
[15:18] <dirty-harry> well, I think I did a pretty good job installing such an old machine; all the important stuff works: flash,dvd,mp3,webcam,burning dvds,skype,office...
[15:19] <dirty-harry> I only had two problems I couldn't solve: running truecrypt stable with thunar and customize the xfce-menu...
[15:21] <dirty-harry> but I think the machine will be accepted the way it is now ;)
[17:05] <Abhijeet> i can't open the items from 'Places" menu . please see http://imagebin.org/114756
[17:07] <saji89> Abhijeet, did you try to open it by clicking as we usually do?
[17:08] <Abhijeet> yes
[17:09] <saji89> Abhijeet, Are you manually able to open your home folder from nautilus?
[17:10] <Abhijeet> yes i can open it from the my computer icon and the my home folder icon on the desktop.
[17:14] <JoeMaverickSett> Abhijeet: try this post. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=969158
[17:14] <saji89> Abhijeet, Try this-
[17:14] <saji89> Right click on a folder -> Properties
[17:14] <saji89> *Open With
[17:14] <saji89> *Add
[17:14] <saji89> *Finally, type "nautilus"
[17:15] <Herman_Snerd> I'm looking for some answers to networking problems.  Can anyone help?
[17:15] <saji89> Abhijeet, COurtesy:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=944225   :)
[17:15] <saji89> Herman_Snerd, Please specify your problem. Then we may be able to solve it.
[17:17] <Herman_Snerd> I've been experiencing long delays in retrieving web pages and I'm thinking it might either be OS related or drivers.  I'm running a dual-boot setup and the Win-Blows side doesn't seem to have the same problems.
[17:18] <Herman_Snerd> Not sure where to look in the networking settings to get any answers.  I am running proprietary drivers on this HP laptop.
[17:20] <Herman_Snerd> I did go to speed-test .net and tried to run the download speed test and got this,"Test Status: Failed - Opening connection:Connection refused"
[17:20] <Herman_Snerd> I thought that might give a clue.
[17:21] <saji89> Herman_Snerd, I don't have the solution for you, But let me see if I can find someone to help you/
[17:21] <Abhijeet> thanks friend it worked , but why such a thing happened ? i
[17:21] <saji89> Abhijeet, WHich one worked?
[17:22] <Herman_Snerd> saji89, Thanks!
[17:22] <saji89> Herman_Snerd, Okies.
[17:22] <saji89> Herman_Snerd, Did you try asking at #ubuntu?
[17:23] <Herman_Snerd> Not yet.  I thought I'd start at the bottom and work up.
[17:23] <Abhijeet> the second one where right click on folder and adding nautilus . it not only worked for the specific folder but all the places items. Thank u one again !!!!!!!!!!
[17:23] <saji89> Herman_Snerd, Okies. But while I try to get someone you may try asking at #ubuntu as well, There are many people in there, so there is more probability that you may get the answer. :)
[17:24] <Herman_Snerd> saji89, 10-4
[17:24] <saji89> Herman_Snerd, means?
[17:25] <Herman_Snerd> saji89, it's radio/military communications code meaning affirmative-understood.
[17:26] <Mohan_chml> Herman_Snerd, We are newbies to Military codes :D
[17:26] <Herman_Snerd> saji89, read tenfour
[17:26] <saji89> Herman_Snerd, Oops. I'm not used to miltary codes.
[17:26] <saji89> Herman_Snerd, Good to learn some new code. ;)
[17:26] <Herman_Snerd> saji89, Sorry.  I'm a Rogue Warrior novel fan and I picked a lot of that up from the books.
[17:27] <saji89> Herman_Snerd, Nice. I'm also a reading Hobbyist. :) Though I haven't read much in the near past.
[17:28] <saji89> Herman_Snerd, It seems no-one is available atm to help. :(
[17:28] <saji89> Herman_Snerd, Can you please try at #ubuntu?
[17:30] <Herman_Snerd> saji89, I'm there now.  Thanks!  Check out the Rogue Warrior novels by Richard Marcinko.  I've been hooked on them for years and I'm really not a reader!!
[18:48] <Redhand> A question; I'm running feisty fawn on a 400mhz cpu 192 megs of ram. What channel should I join to speak with others interested in old distro's and ancient computers? hehe doesn't have to be on this irc server
[18:50] <Redhand> telling me I should seek professional psychiatric help is also on option *grin*
[18:50] <drubin> Redhand: Don't know about other IRC channels but read this blog, he is the king of low system usage. http://kmandla.wordpress.com/
[18:50] <Redhand> thanks drubin, I will
[18:51] <drubin> sorry can't help further but most people tend to update their systems... but with 400mz I don't know how much choice you have
[18:52] <Redhand> that plenty of help thanks
[18:53] <drubin> but speaking of low usage pc's I have a laptop with 128mb of ram and a 800mhz. What can I install on it.
[18:53] <Redhand> yeah, I spotted a post on a forum (while researching the issue) that said someone with the same specs as me managed to get 6.10 and 7.04 working but no others. So I took the plunge, as a complete linux newbie *grin*
[18:54] <drubin> Redhand: You are by no means newbie if you can install an outdated ubuntu version that is no longer supported.
[18:55] <Redhand> I'm a complete newbie, it's pure random luck and lots of web searches that helped me succeed
[19:00] <Redhand> I'd do a search on the exact processor/ram specs of your laptop. You may get lucky and find a forum post about exactly that puter (like I did)
[19:01] <ksbalaji> Which folders are deleted if 10.4 is installed in an existing unformatted ubuntu system partition? Whether /home is deleted? I undrstand that /home folder is not lost if the partition is not formatted.?
[19:02] <ksbalaji> Which folders are deleted if 10.4 is installed in an existing unformatted ubuntu system partition? Whether /home is deleted? I undrstand that /home folder is not lost if the partition is not allowed to be formatted.
[19:03] <drubin> ksbalaji: No folders are deleted unless you format the drive.
[19:04] <drubin> s/drive/partion
[19:10] <ksbalaji> thanks drubin, I was worried about /home folder while reinstalling clean.
[19:10] <drubin> ksbalaji: As long as you don't select the "format" option will will be fine.
[19:11] <ksbalaji> drubin, but I believe similarly worded system folders are done away with while reinstalling. Unlike Windows where older folders are packed and kept safe.
[19:13] <ksbalaji> anyway thanks and bye!
[19:15] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[19:15] <kosaidpo> im lookin for the classroom of the pluseaudio
[20:14] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[20:14] <kosaidpo> evrytime i boot my pc i need to reset my alsa driver thingy
[20:14] <kosaidpo> to get the sound
[20:14] <kosaidpo> is there ny workaround ?
[20:28] <uchobby> well at least you have sound.. I've never got mine working
[20:28] <kosaidpo> uchobby: hahaha
[20:28] <kosaidpo> well jst try to search
[20:50] <Splazer123> I'm new and trying to run Ubuntu Netbook. I installed it and when i try and run it, it says it will automatically boot up in 5 seconds but ends up just starting over. Help?
[20:51] <Splazer123> Please?
[20:52] <Splazer123> I need help.
[20:52] <Splazer123>  I'm new and trying to run Ubuntu Netbook. I installed it and when i try and run it, it says it will automatically boot up in 5 seconds but ends up just starting over. Help?
[20:54] <lukjad> What's up Splazer123
[20:54] <Splazer123> Hey Thanks.
[20:55] <lukjad> Splazer123 Hm, so it reboots while loading.
[20:55] <lukjad> Splazer123 Were there any errors during the installation?
[20:55] <Splazer123> Not that i know of.
[20:55] <Splazer123> It says that it cant find a kernel though.
[20:55] <lukjad> Eek
[20:55] <uchobby> was this the first book after you installed?
[20:55] <Splazer123> Yes.
[20:56] <uchobby> on the next reboot, hold the shift key and see if you get a menu
[20:56] <uchobby> try the options there
[20:56] <Splazer123> Okay. I'll Be back if it doesnt work.
[20:57] <uchobby> shift key is right to get the boot menu from grub right? I remember having to do that once.