| duanedesign | AlanBell: design, leadership += ubingo | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| AlanBell | design is in, but I will add leadership | 00:07 |
| AlanBell | and council | 00:07 |
| duanedesign | d'oh, design is in there | 00:08 |
| AlanBell | jcastro: important new UDS resource -> http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk | 00:08 |
| AlanBell | duanedesign: there are about 55 words, it shows 30 at random | 00:09 |
| duanedesign | AlanBell: would be funny if everyone had soda pop instead of beer. Can you imagine giving a talk and the entire audience drinking in unison (in what appears to you to be random times) | 00:09 |
| AlanBell | lol | 00:09 |
| AlanBell | heh, someone actually going could print out a stack for people to pick up on the way in | 00:10 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: Improvements | 02:31 |
| duanedesign | nigelb: friendly wager, whoever gets fewer words marked off in ubingo has to buy lunch :) | 03:23 |
| nigelb | duanedesign: can't be fewer, must be all! | 03:24 |
| nigelb | oh wait, yah. I get it | 03:24 |
| duanedesign | :) no lobster. Just Bigmacs | 03:28 |
| sense | good afternoon/morning | 11:37 |
| czajkowski | aloha sense | 11:37 |
| sense | hi czajkowski! | 11:38 |
| vish | oh wise jcastro! where art thine "videos for bp" !? ;) | 13:53 |
| jussi | Ive 2 months free mindmeister for 5 people if anyone needs. just pm me for a code. | 16:02 |
| vish | gosh! seriously ben is *starting* to get annoying! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/615300/comments/14 whats with the "Ubuntu Camp" reference? | 16:07 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 615300 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as "Sent from Ubuntu" (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 42)" [Medium,Fix released] | 16:07 |
| nigelb | vish: o.O | 16:17 |
| AlanBell | vish: https://answers.launchpad.net/malone/+question/124309 | 16:17 |
| vish | AlanBell: haha! nice! | 16:19 |
| AlanBell | shame the answer was no | 16:20 |
| vish | but it is silly when he says "Ubuntu Camp" .. if it is a reference to members then he is part of it... | 16:20 |
| vish | if not , what camp is he from? ;) | 16:20 |
| AlanBell | he was considering resigning his membership the other day, which I think would be a shame | 16:21 |
| AlanBell | to be fair adding a default signature is a somewhat sanity-light suggestion | 16:22 |
| vish | AlanBell: well , its not about the point he is trying to make, its just the *way* he is trying to make the point is getting annoying.. | 16:23 |
| AlanBell | when I next catch Ben/Joey online I will suggest that in future bug related articles they have some standard text guiding people to the "affects me too" link | 16:23 |
| vish | oh, declining membership!! in hopes of *not* being controlled by the COC ? hehe! | 16:23 |
| jussi | vish: +1 | 16:23 |
| AlanBell | vish: indeed, one reason why I don't want him to do that | 16:24 |
| jussi | Thankfully no one has proposed this for kmail yet :) | 16:24 |
| * AlanBell goes to file a bug against kmail | 16:25 | |
| * nigelb goes to file bug against thunderbird | 16:25 | |
| vish | jussi: once gnome-shell gets too annoying .. we'll get to you ;p | 16:25 |
| nigelb | vish: +1 | 16:25 |
| * jussi files a bug against AlanBell :D | 16:25 | |
| jussi | vish: and we will sanely mark the bug as invalid... or maybe wont fix | 16:26 |
| jussi | :D | 16:26 |
| vish | jussi: no , i meant , we'll switch to kde as the main for Ubuntu and annoy kde users ;) | 16:26 |
| jussi | vish: cripes... the world will end :D | 16:27 |
| jussi | :P | 16:27 |
| jussi | so anyway, no one wants a few months free mindmeister? | 16:27 |
| nigelb | jussi: um, what? | 17:29 |
| vish | nigelb: <jussi> Ive 2 months free mindmeister for 5 people if anyone needs. just pm me for a code. | 17:44 |
| * nigelb had to google mindmeister | 17:44 | |
| nigelb | jussi: oye, you got some free time? | 18:05 |
| czajkowski | vish: what do you mean starting to ;) | 18:09 |
| vish | czajkowski: well , i guess i have a higher threshold for pain tolerance ;) | 18:09 |
| czajkowski | vish: trust me , mine is rather hight | 18:10 |
| czajkowski | high | 18:10 |
| nigelb | heh | 18:11 |
| czajkowski | I delete the rude spammy comments from my blog | 18:12 |
| * czajkowski dislikes rude people | 18:12 | |
| * nigelb hugs czajkowski :) | 18:12 | |
| nigelb | better to delete than to engage IMHO | 18:12 |
| czajkowski | so true | 18:12 |
| czajkowski | wont give them a platform for their crap | 18:13 |
| jussi | nigelb: hi | 18:18 |
| nigelb | jussi: you have time later for a call? | 18:18 |
| * nigelb wants to test google voice thingy | 18:18 | |
| nigelb | jussi: wooo, that was fun! | 18:28 |
| * nigelb is glad that 'it works' | 18:28 | |
| czajkowski | Anyone attending UDS I've updated the wiki to have an attendees page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-N/Attendees | 18:37 |
| czajkowski | if you want to let people know your times of arrival so you cna hook up with others for taxis | 18:37 |
| sense | If Ben talks about the Ubuntu Camp as a separate entity, coming up with all the ideas he dislikes, then it conveys to me that he doesn't feel he is a part of the Ubuntu community, or the group of people working on Ubuntu. He considers himself an outsider, an onlooker. | 18:59 |
| AlanBell | that needs fixing | 19:00 |
| nigelb | sense: did you see the mail he wrong to -desktop about application raiting? | 19:00 |
| sense | nigelb: Don't remember seeing it, maybe it was mass-archived along with the Bug Watch spam. :) | 19:01 |
| nigelb | ugh, that was indeed massive. | 19:02 |
| sense | The first batch for me was over five hundred. I saw bugs I didn't even remember dealing with, and in the beginning actually thought those required attention. | 19:03 |
| nigelb | Not that I don't like Ben, but some antics are irritating. | 19:03 |
| nigelb | sense: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2010-September/002637.html | 19:04 |
| nigelb | I love jorge's reply | 19:04 |
| sense | :P | 19:04 |
| sense | Go Jorge! | 19:04 |
| czajkowski | aye he does rock | 19:05 |
| AlanBell | he is full of energy, like a bouncy puppy | 19:05 |
| AlanBell | given some training he could be useful | 19:05 |
| AlanBell | err not jcastro, he is not a puppy | 19:06 |
| sense | :) | 19:06 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: More like a Lynx? ;) | 19:07 |
| AlanBell | any reason why http://omgubuntu.co.uk/author/humphreybc should not be syndicated to planet Ubuntu? | 19:11 |
| czajkowski | yes it's OMG Ubuntu | 19:11 |
| czajkowski | and he has hiis own blong | 19:11 |
| czajkowski | *blog | 19:11 |
| nigelb | I dont oppose really if he removes his exsiting blog and consolidates to this one. | 19:12 |
| nigelb | and if there isn't any ads/branding on planet. | 19:12 |
| sense | I wouldn't classify OMG!Ubuntu! as a personal blog, or a platform for personal blog posts, so I don't think it is very suitable for Planet Ubuntu. | 19:12 |
| vish | AlanBell: come on , pls stop suggesting such ideas , even if it were meant as a joke | 19:13 |
| AlanBell | it is about Ubuntu, and by a member | 19:13 |
| AlanBell | vish: not joking | 19:13 |
| nigelb | sense: not all the posts of course, but I see what AlanBell is saying. | 19:13 |
| vish | AlanBell: well , he can post it in his blog. | 19:13 |
| vish | AlanBell: why not there? | 19:13 |
| sense | yeah | 19:13 |
| AlanBell | I am just working in mysterious ways | 19:13 |
| nhandler | Based on my recollection of the planet ubuntu requirements, he could technically add that feed to the planet. It is an ubuntu member's posts and about ubuntu and in english | 19:14 |
| nigelb | exactly, we can't stop it | 19:14 |
| nigelb | unless we have another neckbeard like incident :p | 19:15 |
| nigelb | Murphy's law of flickr: If you're hungry and look through flickr, you'll inevitably find pictures of food :p | 19:16 |
| AlanBell | lol | 19:16 |
| sense | Perl law of regex: running autogen.sh causes regexes to fail, but only for one particular string, which seems regextechnically indistinguishable from the others. | 19:17 |
| nigelb | regextechnically - I like that | 19:18 |
| sense | :) | 19:19 |
| nigelb | later folks, bed time :) | 19:22 |
| nhandler | sense: Isn't Perl regex debugging fun ;) | 19:23 |
| sense | nhandler: Absolutely! The past few weeks were the most fun I've had in a while! | 19:24 |
| nhandler | sense: I've spent many evenings going back and forth between a regex and the text trying to figure out why it wasn't working. They really are a language in themselves | 19:24 |
| sense | It's quite frustrating. | 19:25 |
| Pendulum | AlanBell: I think there's some precident for it happening. akgraner has the Ubuntu User blog that feeds to planet and I thought her personal blog did as well | 19:28 |
| AlanBell | my blog is an /author feed off a shared blog which is technically a company thing | 19:31 |
| vish | AlanBell: does your blog come with a prefill of discuss commenters? | 19:33 |
| AlanBell | I tend not to attract the "angry teenager" demographic | 19:34 |
| AlanBell | but comments don't get syndicated anyhow | 19:34 |
| vish | ;) | 19:35 |
| AlanBell | so how would you like OMGUbuntu to report on bugs in a less irritating way? | 19:35 |
| vish | AlanBell: if your commenter's get out of line of COC , do you still keep their comments? | 19:35 |
| AlanBell | because that bug is totally reportable news | 19:35 |
| czajkowski | I really do not see bugs as news | 19:36 |
| vish | AlanBell: would you delete the comments out of Line or do you highlight those very same comments? | 19:36 |
| AlanBell | vish: no, and to be fair, OMGUbuntu now has a comment moderation policy (which I had at least some part in pressurising them to do) | 19:36 |
| czajkowski | in fact I really hate seeing that kinda shite tbh | 19:36 |
| vish | AlanBell: no , but the moderation is taken/used to their advantages.. | 19:37 |
| sense | The bug was from Rick Spencer about adding the signature to Evolution, the news message was about the signature being added, illustrating the fact with the bug report. | 19:37 |
| AlanBell | I would rather fix the shite than keep it out of sight | 19:37 |
| sense | They could have placed less attention on the bug, and more on the actual event. | 19:37 |
| vish | AlanBell: but they do not want to fix the site | 19:37 |
| sense | It is worth a discussion. | 19:37 |
| czajkowski | sense: indeed | 19:37 |
| AlanBell | sense: precisely | 19:37 |
| nhandler | czajkowski: Well, to be fair, certain bugs are news. i.e. I'm sure there was a bug about switching the default photo application used in Ubuntu | 19:38 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: it;s not about fixing, its, drawing the type of people who seem to flame things and refere to people as being in a Camp I object to | 19:38 |
| czajkowski | nhandler: we shall agree to disagree, bugs are not news :) | 19:38 |
| * AlanBell avoids cheap ossbarcamp gag | 19:38 | |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: :) | 19:38 |
| sense | czajkowski: What about security bugs? ;) | 19:38 |
| * AlanBell hugs czajkowski instead | 19:38 | |
| AlanBell | security bugs tend not to be news | 19:40 |
| czajkowski | *sigh* | 19:40 |
| czajkowski | bugs are not news! | 19:40 |
| sense | I hate Perl, I think. The two directories diff this little <http://paste.ubuntu.com/496615/>, but still 'r' won't build because something doesn't match a regex. | 19:40 |
| AlanBell | yeah, bugs are not news | 19:40 |
| sense | Why? | 19:40 |
| czajkowski | in fact when I see them on sites I think of them as fillers if they've nothing to actually report on | 19:41 |
| AlanBell | some things that get reported in the launchpad bug system are not bugs | 19:41 |
| sense | Very true. | 19:41 |
| sense | Unfortunately... | 19:41 |
| AlanBell | things like the font maybe not making it into Maverick is reportable news | 19:41 |
| AlanBell | not really a bug as in "something broken in code that should work" | 19:41 |
| AlanBell | and the "lets add a signature to evolution" bug isn't technically a bug from the traditional definition | 19:42 |
| sense | The crash of the first Ariana 5 rocket was a bug. Isn't that news? It was quite an expensive bug. | 19:42 |
| sense | No, that was more a work-item. | 19:42 |
| sense | (The Ariana 5 software bug caused a loss of $370 million, according to Wikipedia.) | 19:44 |
| doctormo | duanedesign: ping | 21:29 |
| doctormo | Now I have to work out what it is about jono that made him easier to draw than anyone else I've ever tried to do. | 22:33 |
| cjohnston | draw me ;-) | 22:38 |
| doctormo | cjohnston: Any particiluar picture? And are you ok with being used as a immature artist model? :-P | 22:52 |
| czajkowski | doctormo: what did the jono drawing look like | 22:55 |
| cjohnston | uh oh | 22:56 |
| doctormo | czajkowski: Keep one caveat in mind, I am not an artist: http://doctormo.deviantart.com/#/d2yz9gu | 22:59 |
| czajkowski | bottom right is very him | 22:59 |
| doctormo | I was tempted to draw a party hat ont hat one and just have that. | 23:03 |
| duanedesign | hello all | 23:05 |
| doctormo | HEY duanedesign! just the person | 23:05 |
| duanedesign | :) | 23:06 |
| duanedesign | doctormo: had a busy day. Just got a chance to sit down and sign on | 23:07 |
| doctormo | duanedesign: Perfect, well the good news is that thanks to Manuel de la Pena, you're all funded. He said you should get the money via paypal hopefully by Tuesday. | 23:08 |
| doctormo | duanedesign: And do let me know if anyone else donates, I've sent an email that we're done. But sometimes money pops through afterwards for some reason. | 23:09 |
| duanedesign | doctormo: well that is awaesome | 23:10 |
| duanedesign | so awesome I lost my ability spell | 23:11 |
| duanedesign | no wait I never had that | 23:11 |
| duanedesign | doctormo: if you have his email i would like to send a thank you | 23:12 |
| doctormo | How apt, awesome: loosing one's breath at the sight of something. see irreverent. | 23:12 |
| duanedesign | definetly the whole experience has been overwhelming. It is exciting enough to get to go to UDS, On top of that the generousity of the community and it is awesome | 23:13 |
| doctormo | Well I have to go and see a show and catch some dinner... or visa versa. be back later! | 23:14 |
| duanedesign | ok have fun | 23:15 |
| duanedesign | thanks | 23:15 |
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