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| popey | kenvandine: bug 628866 - was this an intentional decision? why are we not following the 'standard' for branding twitter clients, but setting it to the host OS name rather than the app. | 15:19 |
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| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 628866 in gwibber (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Gwibber identifies as 'ubuntu for ubuntu' to twitter (affects: 5) (heat: 333)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628866 | 15:19 |
| fagan | popey: mine is back saying gwibber just gwibber | 15:21 |
| fagan | no os or anything | 15:21 |
| popey | fagan: what version of gwibber? | 15:22 |
| fagan | the latest in maverick | 15:22 |
| popey | what version? | 15:22 |
| fagan | ill go check | 15:22 |
| popey | 2.31.94-0ubuntu1 here | 15:22 |
| fagan | 2.39.94 | 15:22 |
| fagan | yeah the same | 15:22 |
| fagan | do a message from the me menu and it says gwibber | 15:23 |
| fagan | not ubuntu | 15:23 |
| popey | i am not using the me menu | 15:23 |
| popey | I am using gwibber, lemme message you | 15:23 |
| fagan | Oh its identica that says gwibber | 15:24 |
| fagan | twitter says ubuntu | 15:24 |
| fagan | I just tested it | 15:24 |
| popey | yes, because when you authed to twitter the oath bit says "Ubuntu on Ubuntu" | 15:24 |
| popey | and it keeps that | 15:24 |
| fagan | ah thats weird | 15:24 |
| popey | could try deleting twitter account in gwibber and reauthing | 15:25 |
| popey | see if it still says ubuntu | 15:25 |
| popey | blimey, takes about 30 seconds to remove your account | 15:25 |
| popey | gwibber locks up in the meantime | 15:25 |
| fagan | it doesnt say ubuntu on ubuntu it says ubuntu for me | 15:25 |
| popey | no, you misunderstand | 15:26 |
| popey | during oath it says "ubuntu by ubuntu" | 15:26 |
| popey | but when you tweet it just says "ubuntu2 | 15:26 |
| popey | s/2/" | 15:26 |
| fagan | Oh ok | 15:27 |
| fagan | Thats very weird then | 15:27 |
| popey | see my latest comment on bug 628866 | 15:28 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 628866 in gwibber (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Gwibber identifies as 'ubuntu for ubuntu' to twitter (affects: 5) (heat: 26)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628866 | 15:28 |
| fagan | ah popey I think thats intentional | 15:29 |
| fagan | Because ubuntu is made b ubuntu :) | 15:29 |
| fagan | *by | 15:29 |
| popey | i dont know if you're joking or not | 15:29 |
| popey | it should say "gwibber by ubuntu" | 15:29 |
| fagan | then it would be "via gwibber" on twitter itself | 15:30 |
| popey | which it will | 15:30 |
| popey | _if_ the oath bit in gwibber is changed to identify as "gwibber by ubuntu" | 15:30 |
| fagan | Yeah id say most people wouldnt notice that anyway | 15:31 |
| popey | they do | 15:32 |
| popey | someone asked me just today about it | 15:32 |
| popey | IMO it's somewhat deceitful | 15:32 |
| fagan | well the only thing we could do is change it to "gwibber by ubuntu" but still we could do "ubuntu by Canonical" or "ubuntu by contributors" or something | 15:33 |
| fagan | if it looks weird | 15:34 |
| popey | why does gwibber by ubuntu look weird? | 15:34 |
| fagan | It doesnt but if it doesnt say "via ubuntu" I wouldnt like it | 15:35 |
| fagan | on the tweets themselves | 15:35 |
| popey | that makes no sense | 15:35 |
| popey | look at _every_ other tweet from _every_ other person | 15:35 |
| popey | they are _all_ tagged with the client the person used | 15:35 |
| popey | tweetdeck, seesmic, twitter for iphone etc | 15:35 |
| popey | not the underlying OS | 15:36 |
| fagan | true but its more about marketing IMO | 15:36 |
| popey | no | 15:36 |
| fagan | I like showing off that im using ubuntu to send the tweets | 15:36 |
| fagan | and it is in the default | 15:36 |
| popey | thats nice for you, but inconsistent with every other tweet | 15:36 |
| fagan | It was a bug from lucid if I remember correctly to change it to "via ubuntu" | 15:36 |
| popey | bug number? | 15:36 |
| fagan | Ill dig it out | 15:37 |
| popey | the chances are it's just that ken registered with twitter for an oath key, and only obtained one for all Ubuntu based twitter clients | 15:37 |
| popey | which is why they all say "via ubuntu" | 15:37 |
| popey | when what should actually happen is each twitter client should use its own key | 15:37 |
| fagan | well we had it for via gwibber in lucid | 15:38 |
| lucidfox | Hmm | 15:38 |
| popey | yes because lucid pre-dated oath | 15:38 |
| lucidfox | where are the standard "Report a problem, translate this application" etc menu items located? | 15:38 |
| popey | this issue has only arisen because twitter requires oauth now | 15:38 |
| lucidfox | I can't find them in the source code of the applications themselves | 15:39 |
| fagan | popey: we had it earlier in the maverick cycle than that | 15:39 |
| fagan | its just the oauth is after showing up that ubuntu by ubuntu screen thats created by twitter itself | 15:40 |
| popey | yes, and its associated with the key | 15:40 |
| fagan | yep | 15:40 |
| popey | fagan: you're catching up :) | 15:41 |
| fagan | I know how the system works and I know what you mean | 15:41 |
| fagan | I just remember that it was a bug to change it to via ubuntu from lucid | 15:41 |
| fagan | and I like it that way too :) | 15:41 |
| fagan | damn launchpad is timing me out | 15:42 |
| popey | right, so all other tweets should say "from windows" or "from osx"? | 15:42 |
| popey | and not identify the client? | 15:42 |
| popey | thats not useful at all | 15:42 |
| popey | bug 571370 | 15:43 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 571370 in gwibber (Ubuntu) "tweets from me menu reported as "via Gwibber" instead of Ubuntu (dup-of: 524358)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/571370 | 15:43 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 524358 in indicator-me (and 1 other project) "Broadcast messages are sent "from Gwibber" (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524358 | 15:43 |
| popey | but thats only talking about the me menu | 15:43 |
| fagan | Well we are a bit different because we are the only one that have a twitter client included | 15:43 |
| popey | nope | 15:43 |
| popey | iphones, htc phones all have one included | 15:43 |
| popey | i just didnt list them | 15:43 |
| fagan | Oh yeah | 15:43 |
| fagan | But they say twitter for the iphone | 15:44 |
| popey | yes | 15:44 |
| fagan | can we do gwibber for ubuntu | 15:44 |
| popey | which is the name of the _app_ | 15:44 |
| fagan | ? | 15:44 |
| popey | welcome to 10 minutes ago :) | 15:44 |
| fagan | Oh so we could change it to gwibber for ubuntu made by ubuntu | 15:44 |
| fagan | and it would be fine | 15:44 |
| popey | eww | 15:44 |
| popey | thats longer than most tweets :) | 15:44 |
| fagan | it wouldnt have the made by ubuntu bit | 15:45 |
| fagan | that would be just via gwibber for ubuntu | 15:45 |
| fagan | but would it link to gwibber's page or ubuntu's homepage if it was gwibber for ubuntu | 15:47 |
| popey | do you have a tweet option in your me menu on 10.10 ? | 15:47 |
| fagan | YEp | 15:47 |
| popey | where? | 15:48 |
| popey | click on your name? | 15:48 |
| fagan | its the same box as the last one | 15:48 |
| fagan | gwibber needs to be started | 15:48 |
| fagan | for you to see it | 15:48 |
| popey | i have gwibber running, but dont see it | 15:48 |
| fagan | hmmmm thats a bug from before | 15:48 |
| popey | so for me there is no way to tweet from the me menu | 15:48 |
| fagan | you just need to restart | 15:49 |
| popey | restart what? | 15:49 |
| fagan | log out and log back in | 15:49 |
| fagan | and it should work fine | 15:49 |
| fagan | that was an old bug | 15:49 |
| popey | i am running latest maverick and have had gwibber running for days on here | 15:49 |
| fagan | yeah it was only fixed in the update over the week | 15:50 |
| fagan | I had a bug with it too that it would only allow me to tweet 1 char in the box :) | 15:50 |
| popey | :) | 15:50 |
| fagan | but yeah I have the box up and it says "post to multiple networks" and if you click on it you can type your messages | 15:51 |
| popey | man alive maverick takes soooo long to login | 15:51 |
| popey | need to figure out whats eating all that cpu/disk | 15:52 |
| fagan | It doesnt take that long for me | 15:52 |
| fagan | and this computer is 8 years old | 15:52 |
| * fagan got a crappy computer for a while until a new one appears | 15:52 | |
| popey | right, logged out/in, still no tweet option | 15:52 |
| fagan | is gwibber up? | 15:53 |
| popey | yes | 15:53 |
| fagan | hmmmmm | 15:53 |
| fagan | thats really weird | 15:53 |
| fagan | does the messaging menu have an arrow on gwibber? | 15:53 |
| popey | where is it for you? | 15:53 |
| popey | yes | 15:53 |
| popey | ah, now its there! | 15:53 |
| fagan | oh it must take a sec to detect it | 15:54 |
| popey | hah, and gwibber-service cashes | 15:54 |
| popey | business as usual | 15:54 |
| fagan | ouch | 15:54 |
| fagan | It hasnt been crashing for me | 15:54 |
| fagan | anyhow I have a little bug I need to report too | 15:55 |
| fagan | oh now its not doing it | 15:55 |
| fagan | weird | 15:55 |
| popey | just tweeted from the me menu as a test, seems to work | 15:55 |
| popey | cant see myself ever using it though | 15:55 |
| fagan | popey: if you click on the "broadcast from multiple accounts" does it clear it properly everytime? | 15:56 |
| popey | i see no such option | 15:56 |
| popey | where should I? | 15:56 |
| fagan | it should be written in the box | 15:56 |
| fagan | in the me menu | 15:56 |
| popey | nope | 15:56 |
| fagan | thats really weird then | 15:57 |
| fagan | well its there for me with all updates installed | 15:58 |
| popey | fagan: http://twitpic.com/2q0ixi | 15:58 |
| fagan | popey: http://twitpic.com/2q0jkg | 16:00 |
| fagan | very strange | 16:00 |
| popey | i only have one network enabled in gwibber | 16:00 |
| fagan | ah then thats it then | 16:01 |
| fagan | I have twitter and identica | 16:01 |
| fagan | and google buzz | 16:01 |
| popey | yeah, i have two accounts, but if you click one at the bottom of the gwibber window, it disables it for posting | 16:01 |
| popey | so i only post to identica, and let identica forward to twitter | 16:01 |
| popey | ahh, so _you're_ the only one who uses buzz! :) | 16:01 |
| fagan | buzz has its good points | 16:02 |
| fagan | like no char limit | 16:02 |
| fagan | and embedding pics and videos by linking them in the message | 16:02 |
| fagan | oh and popey to answer your question on twitter it doesnt allow you to put more chars than the limit in the box it just stops | 16:07 |
| fagan | popey: could you try to set up your facebook account in gwibber for me and see what happens | 16:09 |
| fagan | its not working for me | 16:09 |
| fagan | it auths but its not added | 16:09 |
| popey | i dont have facebook | 16:10 |
| fagan | ah ok | 16:11 |
| fagan | I got it added but it took 5 tries to get it working | 16:14 |
| fagan | ill ask kenvandine on monday about it | 16:14 |
| fagan | Im after having a brain wave but I dont know how much work it would be | 16:42 |
| fagan | Integrating uploading to youtube and vimeo from pitivi | 16:42 |
| fagan | I googled it and they have an api for both | 16:42 |
| ksbalaji | Which folders are deleted if 10.4 is installed in an existing unformatted ubuntu system partition? Whether /home is deleted? | 18:42 |
| fagan | /home shouldnt | 18:43 |
| fagan | all the stuff in / other than home and /opt | 18:43 |
| fagan | but id say /opt gets deleted too | 18:43 |
| fagan | ksbalaji: you should ask this kind of stuff on #ubuntu | 18:44 |
| ksbalaji | I undrstand that /home folder is not lost if the partition is not allowed to be formatted. | 18:44 |
| ksbalaji | fagan, I need more techie answer for this. I cannot take chances. That's why I consult here. | 18:45 |
| fagan | ksbalaji: this channel is still not a support channel | 18:46 |
| ksbalaji | I am installing to desktop. Hope developers here can guide installations on unformatted partitions containing /home folder | 18:47 |
| fagan | ksbalaji: and I answered it and said you should really ask all questions on #ubuntu | 18:47 |
| fagan | /home will be fine I did it myself | 18:48 |
| ksbalaji | fagan, thanks. Sorry to disturb. Good help. And bye! | 18:56 |
| fagan | np | 18:56 |
| directhex | bratsche & tedg, what's the difference between the NEW_LABEL and X_NEW_LABEL signals in indicator-application? | 19:52 |
| bratsche | directhex: Uhh.. I forgot exactly, but tedg can answer for sure. But I think all the x-fu signals are dbus signal wrapper or something. | 20:02 |
| avi__ | Hey guys, so I've written this cool app in PyGTK and Glade. How can I package this up and distribute it? | 20:42 |
| nisshh | avi__: did you use Quickly? | 20:43 |
| avi__ | nisshh, Not sure what that is. I wrote it with Geany. | 20:43 |
| nisshh | avi__: ah, ok | 20:44 |
| avi__ | Should I have? :P | 20:44 |
| fagan | it would help avi__ | 20:44 |
| nisshh | avi__: it is easier to package if you do | 20:44 |
| nisshh | avi__: is your code on launchpad? | 20:44 |
| avi__ | Can I still write in pygtk and glade with it? | 20:44 |
| avi__ | No, this isn't something thats worthy of launchpad, really. | 20:45 |
| nisshh | avi__: yes, it just makes it much easier to do so | 20:45 |
| avi__ | I'll look into that then. | 20:45 |
| nisshh | cool | 20:45 |
| avi__ | Oh man that IS easy. | 20:49 |
| avi__ | Good thing this app is hypothetical... sort of :P | 20:49 |
| nisshh | avi__: if you want others to be able to get and reuse the code, or if you want to release it, launchpad is the best place :) | 20:50 |
| avi__ | no doubt. I'm just not a good enough programmer to be on LaunchPad yet ^^ | 20:51 |
| nisshh | avi__: being on launchpad is not about being a good programmer | 20:51 |
| nisshh | avi__: if you put your code on launchpad, your code can be improved by others if they are interestef | 20:52 |
| nisshh | d' | 20:52 |
| avi__ | Yeah. But also, this app is basically specific to my school, at least that's what I'm developing it around, and I highly doubt it would be useful to anyone else :) | 20:53 |
| avi__ | oh this is great, | 20:53 |
| avi__ | quickly is python only? | 20:53 |
| nisshh | avi__: for now, but fagan there is developing a vala template for it | 20:54 |
| fagan | Yeah I am :) | 20:54 |
| nisshh | avi__: i understand, if it only applies to your school thats fine | 20:54 |
| avi__ | Excellent! I hope to move to vala once I actually can write stuff somewhat well. | 20:55 |
| * fagan says patches are very very very very very welcome | 20:55 | |
| fagan | avi__: I wont have the packaging stuff probably this release though | 20:55 |
| avi__ | I just learned python a week ago, with my only real programming exp being a few months of C++ for Windows | 20:55 |
| nisshh | ah yes | 20:55 |
| avi__ | any easy way to change quickly edit to use Geany over Gedit? | 20:56 |
| fagan | well either is good | 20:56 |
| fagan | depends on what you like | 20:56 |
| nisshh | avi__: yes, but i cant remember how, one moment | 20:56 |
| nisshh | :) | 20:56 |
| fagan | geany has a nice auto complete | 20:56 |
| fagan | and gedit is really nice just if you want something basic | 20:56 |
| avi__ | i use geany for autocomplete and the autointenting and stuff | 20:56 |
| fagan | yeah thats fine | 20:57 |
| avi__ | not that there's anything wrong with gedit :D | 20:57 |
| fagan | you can get autocomplete in gedit too | 20:57 |
| avi__ | wow quickly is *extremely* cool. | 20:57 |
| fagan | yeah we know :) | 20:57 |
| nisshh | avi__: sorry i cant remember how :) | 20:58 |
| avi__ | no worries, i'll probably just get gedit's autocomplete working. not essential. | 21:00 |
| nisshh | sure | 21:00 |
| avi__ | this actually solved a billion problems in terms of where to save files, and what to do with serialized objects and such | 21:01 |
| avi__ | solves* | 21:01 |
| fagan | Well you can still use geany | 21:01 |
| avi__ | mmhmm, just browse to the folder with the source files and edit from there. | 21:02 |
| fagan | yep | 21:02 |
| nisshh | avi__: yes you can do that | 21:02 |
| avi__ | stupid question, I know, but what is a .pyc file? | 21:03 |
| nisshh | avi__: .pyc files appear after you execute a .py file usually | 21:04 |
| avi__ | compiled python files..? | 21:05 |
| avi__ | pythons interpreted tho. | 21:05 |
| nisshh | avi__: well, yes it is, but technically its still compiled, i was reading about it the other day | 21:06 |
| avi__ | very interesting | 21:06 |
| avi__ | didn't know that | 21:06 |
| nisshh | heh | 21:06 |
| avi__ | i've never had .pyc files created when i ./ .py files | 21:06 |
| nisshh | avi__: they arent always visible | 21:07 |
| nisshh | sometimes they turn into hidden files or something i dunno | 21:08 |
| avi__ | mhmm | 21:10 |
| avi__ | Is there any reason I can't change the license? | 21:11 |
| nisshh | avi__: you can, what license did you want? | 21:12 |
| avi__ | just curious | 21:12 |
| nisshh | ok | 21:13 |
| nisshh | avi__: instead of asking heaps of questions use this command: quickly getstarted | 21:13 |
| directhex | bratsche, https://code.launchpad.net/~directhex/indicator-application/gapi_is_a_pile_of_shit/+merge/35963 | 21:14 |
| directhex | bratsche, see also bug 636132 | 21:14 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 636132 in indicator-application (Ubuntu) "Tomboy does not start, indicator-application version skew (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636132 | 21:14 |
| avi__ | yeah, I apologize. thanks for the help guys, I've gotta run :) | 21:14 |
| nisshh | avi__: no probs, cya :) | 21:15 |
| bratsche | wtf, I can't resolve any hosts now? | 21:15 |
| nisshh | directhex: hehe, nice branch name :) | 21:15 |
| directhex | nisshh, it is deserved. I've been working on this for about 12 hours | 21:16 |
| nisshh | i see | 21:16 |
| bratsche | directhex: Speaking of gapi, do you know if there is any effort yet to use GI for Mono bindings? | 21:16 |
| Laney | aaron is working on a bridge | 21:17 |
| Laney | but he's been busy moving house and such | 21:17 |
| bratsche | Cool. | 21:17 |
| LoverBoyV | Are there any plans for Ubuntu to have parental controls by default? | 21:23 |
| nisshh | LoverBoyV: the only one that has parental controls by default is edubuntu i think | 21:23 |
| nisshh | so i doubt it | 21:24 |
| LoverBoyV | Ahh, well i just realized that that was missing. | 21:24 |
| nisshh | right | 21:25 |
| LoverBoyV | mhm | 21:25 |
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