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| sconklin | http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/18/intel-wants-to-charge-50-to-unlock-stuff-your-cpu-can-already-d/ | 04:05 |
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| bullgard4 | At startup my Maverick Beta computer writes after 1,8 s : "Magic number: 10:86:987". What does this number refer to? | 07:44 |
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| bullgard4 | At startup my Maverick Beta computer writes after 1,8 s : "Magic number: 10:86:987". What does this number refer to? | 11:44 |
| bullgard4 | I understand that it designates USERHASH:FILEHASH:DEVHASH. But why does Ubuntu publish these 3 numbers? | 11:52 |
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| u456503 | Hi all | 19:46 |
| u456503 | Is somebody here ? | 19:48 |
| u456503 | I'm trying to compile the kernel using this tutorial: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild | 19:50 |
| u456503 | I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 | 19:50 |
| u456503 | but there are some files *.patch to be applied | 19:53 |
| u456503 | can some one help ? | 19:54 |
| u456503 | hi oracle | 20:01 |
| oracle | hi | 20:02 |
| oracle | so many kernel updates recently | 20:02 |
| u456503 | stable candidates, yes | 20:03 |
| u456503 | Do you run an Ubuntu ststem ? | 20:04 |
| u456503 | http://twitter.com/gregkh/status/24873562442 from Greg | 20:06 |
| oracle | yes i run two ubuntus | 20:07 |
| oracle | 2.6.27 | 20:08 |
| oracle | weird | 20:08 |
| u456503 | oh, can you explain how to apply the ubuntu patches, on the latest mainile ? | 20:11 |
| u456503 | the links: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.36-rc4-maverick/ | 20:12 |
| u456503 | and: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild | 20:13 |
| u456503 | I am not an expert, if you can help ? | 20:13 |
| u456503 | hi chrisccoulson | 20:17 |
| chrisccoulson | hi u456503 | 20:17 |
| u456503 | can you view the last discution ? | 20:18 |
| u456503 | I'm trying to compile the latest kernel | 20:19 |
| u456503 | but there are some patces, not included in mainline | 20:21 |
| u456503 | there is somebody to upstream them ? | 20:22 |
| u456503 | or I am on the wrong channel ? | 20:22 |
| u456503 | in 5 minutes I will quit | 20:45 |
| etheretic | 'ello | 21:35 |
| etheretic | running iotop, get error "CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT not enabled in kernel, cannot determine SWAPIN and IO %" making it impossible to analyze the iowait pest i'm afflicted with. ubuntu 10.04 kernel 2.6.32-4. | 21:39 |
| lifeless | ttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/532490 | 21:40 |
| etheretic | bug or feature? | 21:40 |
| etheretic | ah. | 21:40 |
| etheretic | h | 21:40 |
| lifeless | its going to be reenabled according to the master bug | 21:41 |
| lifeless | perhaps you need a newer kernel ? | 21:41 |
| etheretic | er. have one handy? not very competent w. linux, btw. | 21:42 |
| lifeless | no, I don't sorry :) | 21:42 |
| etheretic | thought 32-24 was latest. pardon above typo. | 21:43 |
| etheretic | 2.6.32-24 | 21:43 |
| etheretic | lifeless: i have rtfm'ed on the iowait issue, but found no applicable solutions. it arises when running firefox/oolite/amule, and causes said programs to crash after having paralysed my comp (acer notebook) for 2-30 minutes. | 21:47 |
| etheretic | not sure how kernel-related it is. but #ubuntu was mum on the issue. | 21:47 |
| lifeless | I suggest reading up on disk tuning - DMA etc. Could be that. | 21:52 |
| etheretic | hdparm? | 21:54 |
| etheretic | timings look ok. | 21:58 |
| etheretic | 580/46 cached/buffered. nothing spectacular, but not abysmal either. | 22:01 |
| sfw | Does anyone know how does kernel module loading in Ubuntu work? Is it any different from Gentoo? This is NOT a troll question or something. For example I try to switch cpu into ondemand mode and it explicitly requires I modprobe "powernow-k8". How does Ubuntu handle this? Im just learning a bit. | 22:20 |
| mjg59 | sfw: Which requires it? Ubuntu or Gentoo? | 22:23 |
| mjg59 | There's no modaliases for CPUs, so it's always necessary to explicitly load cpufreq modules | 22:24 |
| mjg59 | Ubuntu (and most sane distributions) have a startup script that looks at your cpu vendor, family and flags and uses that to figure out which module to load | 22:24 |
| sfw | mjg59: So ubuntu does not use kerneld and uses kernel autoloader? What startupscript are you refering for please, init in initramfs? | 22:25 |
| mjg59 | sfw: kerneld? | 22:26 |
| mjg59 | It's been a while since I checked exactly how it works in Ubuntu - I /believe/ that it's called /etc/init.d/powernow.something | 22:26 |
| sfw | I remember pretty good I wasnt required to modprobe powernow with 10.04. It was already somehow loaded. | 22:26 |
| sfw | Kerneld is from here: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Kerneld/introduction.html And I got info about it from here:http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Module-HOWTO/index.html | 22:27 |
| Nafallo | likely /etc/init.d/ondemand I think | 22:29 |
| sfw | mjg59, so ubuntu probably uses init.d to automatically load the module. Hm. I just wonder if a program can force kernel module be loaded automatically. In the case of devices its done by udev AFAIK | 22:29 |
| Nafallo | hmm. no. that doesn't actually load modules | 22:29 |
| sfw | I mean it detects devices and issues modload. | 22:29 |
| mjg59 | sfw: kerneld doesn't exist in modern kernels | 22:31 |
| Nafallo | ah. looks like the powernow stuff is compiled into the kernel, and then /etc/init.d/ondemand sets the ondemand for cpus that supports it. | 22:31 |
| sfw | mjg59: this is what I was fearing) | 22:31 |
| mjg59 | sfw: In the modern world, when a device is created it generates a uevent. That gets picked up by udev, which reads the modalias file and asks modprobe to load any modules with a modalias that matches the device's. CPUs are system devices and don't have modaliases. | 22:32 |
| sfw | Nafallo: Ok, that pretty clears things up, ty | 22:32 |
| sfw | mjg59: Thanks a lot for explanation! So software usually should not load or ask to load any kernel modules? | 22:34 |
| melkor | are there any maverick kernels that have fixed this issue? http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-Linux-kernel-provides-root-rights-1081317.html | 23:53 |
| melkor | I'm using the lts maverick backports and it is not fixed. | 23:53 |
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