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OwaisLhey guys00:14
OwaisLi would like to chip in00:14
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UndiFineDhello OwaisL00:29
OwaisLUndiFineD: Hi00:29
UndiFineDhttp://ubuntutour.org/contribute/ if you want to help00:31
OwaisLyes i did see that00:31
OwaisLi branched the code00:31
OwaisLbut didn't look at it yet00:31
OwaisLso what will this project be exactly using00:32
UndiFineDatm python00:32
OwaisLokay...00:32
OwaisLi'm quite familiar with python and gtk00:32
UndiFineD:D00:32
UndiFineDthen you can teach me00:33
UndiFineDheheh00:33
OwaisLhaha00:33
OwaisLi'm still learning though00:33
OwaisL:)00:33
UndiFineDme too, but I am making good progress on translations tonight00:33
OwaisLwhen do we expect to ship?00:34
UndiFineDtoday we had our first meeting, but we have made progress already00:34
UndiFineDso no shipping date is known at this point00:35
UndiFineDwe use 10.10 as a base00:35
OwaisLok...00:37
OwaisLhey i got to go now..00:37
OwaisLi'll check the code later00:37
OwaisLand come back so we'll talk about how i can help00:38
OwaisLtake care00:38
UndiFineD:)00:38
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BillynkidSorry missed the meeting07:49
UndiFineDgood morning10:32
UndiFineDgood email aprilg14:46
kvarleyI can help with packaging the application into a debian package & with rolling that out onto the ppa if you need help. I have already contributed some writing15:22
OmegaCool15:23
kvarleyI presume it's mainly .py files & data?15:25
UndiFineDthat would be helpful kvarley15:26
UndiFineDit is15:26
kvarley:)15:26
kvarleyI made my first deb yesterday for a little app I made & that was with py files and data. I'm glad I learnt how to do it :)15:26
=== UndiFineD changed the topic of #ubuntu-tour to: Meeting agenda: http://openetherpad.org/UbuntuTourAgenda -- 11MB of support goodness
UndiFineDso kvarley what does that little app do15:53
kvarleymoves files off sd card to a date generated folder (using it for pictures15:59
laurent_there is no setup.py or anything yet16:16
kvarleyOk, when there is I will make a deb16:16
laurent_I attempted to package it, but without using distutils which I haven't worked out yet, it results in an empty package16:16
kvarleylaurent_ Maybe your paths in your rules are wrong?16:22
laurent_no idea16:22
laurent_if you manage to create a .deb, you should upload the rules /control files etc. for amending in future debs, not sure what the opinion would be on version numbers yet16:25
laurent_I don't see this project really being 100% for maverick anyway and the focus for a top notch package for be for natty16:26
laurent_looking at some pages I think the issue may have been the permissions of the directories I made possibly16:29
laurent_I dunno16:29
laurent_it's 3.29am here16:29
laurent_I'm going to sleep in a mo16:29
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UndiFineD:)16:31
MuscovyI could make a .deb is anyone wishes, I know how.16:31
laurent_night16:40
aprilgUndiFineD hey :) thanks. sorry for the really late reply. just got back home :)17:00
UndiFineDheh17:01
UndiFineDmaking lots of progress here on translations17:01
UndiFineDsome should pull more often17:02
=== Muscovy changed the topic of #ubuntu-tour to: The Ubuntu Tour Project! | http://ubuntutour.org | http://openetherpad.org/GUNcK2dx75?| Join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tour
aprilgcan anyone tell me which page to link to specifically for LoCo support? :) I'll add that to the getting help section of the tour :D thanks!!17:57
aprilgis the website acceptable? http://loco.ubuntu.com/      or irc? http://loco.ubuntu.com/irc/17:58
MuscovyWhat do you mean, aprilg?18:00
aprilgwhich link should I add to the getting help page?18:01
aprilgit was mentioned during the meeting that we should add Loco Support to the 'getting help' section of the tour18:01
aprilgalso, a totally different thing :)18:01
aprilgMuscovy can we update the list of members shown on the website? or maybe link to the volunteers list for a complete list of members or something? :) right now, there's only four of us listed on http://ubuntutour.org/members/ :)18:01
MuscovyRight, I'll do that.18:02
MuscovyI'd probably link to the main loco page.18:02
aprilgok. thanks!18:02
aprilgfor both :) hehe18:02
UndiFineDI had already added the link to general loco in the english version and native language loco in duth version18:46
UndiFineDdutch18:46
UndiFineDaprilg, you might want to pull18:49
aprilgUndiFineD you mean this page? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tour/ubuntu-tour/maverick/annotate/head%3A/getting-help/en/0_getting-help18:51
aprilgThat's the one I updated18:51
aprilgI only added the LoCo Team Directory link18:52
UndiFineDas did I yesterday :p18:52
aprilgoh. there were only 4 links when I pulled earlier today18:53
aprilgbeginner questions, irc, ubuntu users mailing list, and the ubuntu switching guide18:53
aprilgthe loco team directory wasn't there :) so I just added it18:53
UndiFineDthis my first time I use bazaar, how come I am at revision 121 while you are at 102.1.1118:53
aprilgI'm at revision 113 actually18:54
aprilgfrom lp:ubuntu-tour18:54
aprilgfrom what I can see, there's only 113 revisions18:55
aprilghttps://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tour18:55
aprilghttps://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tour/ubuntu-tour/maverick18:55
MuscovyIs http://ubuntutour.org/members/ alright?18:56
UndiFineDnice Muscovy18:56
aprilglooks ok :)18:57
MuscovyOk, I wasn't sure if the screenshot worked or not.18:57
aprilgby the way Muscovy, at what revision are we at for lp:ubuntu-tour?18:57
aprilgUndiFineD is at revision 121, and I only see up to 113 on launchpad18:58
MuscovyUh.18:58
MuscovyI'm now on 113.18:58
UndiFineDodd18:58
UndiFineDI use bazaar explorer, any strange settings i need to do ?18:59
aprilgI haven't used bazaar explorer ...18:59
aprilgUndiFineD have you pushed your revisions to lp:ubuntu tour?19:00
UndiFineDi did, but I might have to redo manually19:00
aprilgok.. what name are you using on launchpad?19:01
aprilghttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tour/ubuntu-tour/maverick/changes this page lists all the revisions to the branch19:01
UndiFineDk.dejong / undifined19:02
aprilgI don't see any revisions from you on that page :(19:02
aprilgI'm off for the day guys :)19:06
aprilghafta get some sleep! bye all!19:06
MuscovyGnight. :D19:07
UndiFineDnow i have these silly conflicts19:09
MuscovyDid bzr merge go OK?19:12
UndiFineDnope19:13
UndiFineDbecause I did so many19:13
MadnessRedHi all19:14
MadnessRedreading the irc logs atm19:14
UndiFineDhe MadnessRed19:14
OmegaHey MadnessRed19:14
MadnessRedHow was the meeting, I am at 5:25 atm19:15
OmegaMadnessRed: I nominated you for proggramming lead, how do you feel about it?19:15
OmegaIt was okay19:15
OmegaWe didn't discuss everything because we felt more programmers would need to be here19:15
MadnessRedok, I don't mind being programming lead, as long as i get to be on the team page :)19:16
Omega:>19:17
MadnessRedalso, about he sidebar, gtk has a widget which allows for a split pane which you can adjust19:17
MuscovyHi MadnessRed. :D19:17
MadnessRedhi,19:18
MadnessRedim at 5:40 now19:19
UndiFineDbzr conflicts19:19
UndiFineDConflict: can't delete evolution because it is not empty.  Not deleting.19:19
UndiFineDConflict because evolution is not versioned, but has versioned children.  Versioned directory.19:19
UndiFineDText conflict in getting-help/en/0_getting-help19:19
MuscovyHmm.19:20
MuscovyI don't know what the evolution error is, but the last one is because you and April both edited the same file.19:20
UndiFineDI have the feeling I need to copy out my changes and redo them19:22
UndiFineDas in remove my local branch and recreate it19:22
MadnessReddo we have a new branch btw?19:24
MadnessRedyou were going to change to having only 119:24
MuscovyWhat I do when I get an issue like that is branch a fresh copy, then manually compare them.19:24
MuscovyMadnessRed: Nope. We just moved code-development into the main one.19:24
MadnessRedso I can still pull and push to code-devel'19:24
MuscovyYou can, but we figured it wasn't needed any more since the code is stable.19:25
MuscovyWe only didn't remove it so we could keep the revision history.19:26
MadnessRedok, so where should I pull the latest code from?19:26
Muscovylp:ubuntu-tour.19:26
MadnessRedthanks19:26
MuscovyNo problem.19:26
UndiFineDMuscovy, is it ok now ?19:33
MuscovyI'll check.19:34
MuscovyThat push was fine, UndiFineD.19:36
UndiFineDgreat, that was 12 hours of work19:36
UndiFineDnow i only need to find my english adjustments too19:36
MadnessRedwhats with tour.py line 145?19:41
MadnessRed19:41
MadnessRed#Return the list19:41
MadnessRed<<<<<<< TREE19:41
MadnessRedreturn tours19:41
MuscovyI'm not sure.19:41
UndiFineDreturn self.tours19:42
MadnessRedI'll delete the file from my computer and try just download again19:42
UndiFineDa shame, my english updates seem to be lost in the fixing19:43
Muscovy:|19:44
UndiFineDwell, I remember they where mostly comments about referal to self19:47
UndiFineDwhich seems a bit silly19:47
UndiFineDlike a piece of software is refering to itself as we or I19:48
UndiFineDand when you translate such it becomes even more redicule19:49
UndiFineDok all has been redone, I am at revision 123 now20:46
UndiFineD$ LANG=nl_NL && python ubuntu-tour.py21:10
UndiFineD(process:10112): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.21:10
UndiFineDUsing the fallback 'C' locale.21:10
MuscovyDoes $LANG=nk_NL error on its own?21:11
UndiFineDno21:12
MuscovyMaybe file a bug on that21:12
Muscovyhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu-tour/+filebug21:12
UndiFineDLANG=nl_NL.UTF8 && python ubuntu-tour.py  <-- is ok21:13
UndiFineDhowever does not run the tour21:13
MuscovyDoes the tour give any sort of error?21:13
UndiFineDin english, a few warnings21:14
UndiFineDLANG=en_GB.UTF8 && python ubuntu-tour.py <-- does run the tour21:14
UndiFineDWarning: Could not change directory to file, unexpected errors may occur21:15
UndiFineDNo value set for `/desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_color_scheme'21:15
UndiFineDNo value set for `/desktop/gnome/interface/gtk-color-scheme'21:15
MuscovyDOes it still run?21:15
UndiFineDyes21:15
MuscovyJust debug then.21:15
UndiFineDmmm how ?21:16
UndiFineD:)21:16
MuscovyMaverick/Lucid do some things differently with theme detection.21:16
UndiFineDIm using maverick21:16
MuscovyI get the same warning in maverick.21:17
MuscovyIt's just a debug thing.21:17
UndiFineDI deserve a cookie :p21:37
MuscovyYou do. :D21:38
UndiFineDand I'll add a mug of dark roast with it as well21:39
UndiFineDthen I'm off to my testing account to make a few dutch screen shots21:39
MuscovyUse the default theme, panel, and aurora-y wallpaper. :D21:40
UndiFineDyeah it is all set for that, not sure on the wall paper21:41
UndiFineDis that the one with the odd orange blobs21:41
MuscovyUndiFineD: nope.21:48
MuscovyUndiFineD: http://blag.alexandos.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/maverick.jpg21:49
UndiFineDyeah that is the default, called ubuntu now21:50
UndiFineDmy system is quite recently installed again21:51
UndiFineDdoes it need to have some file in ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_color_scheme22:02
MuscovyNope.22:03
UndiFineDwell, the tour does not run on my testing user22:05
UndiFineDloks like another similar bug22:06
MuscovyUsing language nl_NL?22:13
UndiFineDyes22:15
UndiFineDas it is set when you login a user to their language22:15
UndiFineDwhich is according to env: nl_NL.utf822:17
UndiFineDexact case22:17
MuscovyHi MadnessRed.23:23
MadnessRedhi23:23
MuscovyUndiFineD and I were getting this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-tour/+bug/64304423:24
MadnessRedI'll take a look, 1 sefc23:24
MadnessRedsec#23:24
MuscovyHmm.23:25
MuscovyI just tried es, that one's fine.23:26
MadnessRedodd23:26
MuscovyOk, it seems to only fail on the non-English _ ones.23:26
MadnessRedI'll do some playing, see what i can find out23:27
Muscovyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-tour/+bug/643044/comments/323:29
UndiFineDstill awake, but it's getting late23:30
UndiFineDwatching some tv23:30
MuscovyUndiFineD: I took a closer look at the issue.23:30
MuscovyIt seems the _ languages, exclusing en ones, are failing.23:31
MuscovyPicking one like es works fine.23:31
MadnessRedits tour_nl that is causing the problem23:31
MadnessRedit should be tour.info23:31
MadnessRedthe only files allowed to contain underscores are the page files23:32
UndiFineDah yes, I created those files23:32
UndiFineDin case dutch translations are needed in there23:32
MadnessRedtour_nl.info is page number tour23:32
MadnessRedand tour isn't a number23:32
MuscovyNow I feel silly I missed that.23:33
UndiFineDisn't it great, I created my own bug23:33
MadnessRedI could put it in a try if you want23:33
UndiFineDyou can remove the translated tour_nl.info files if they aren't needed23:34
UndiFineDor rename them tour.info if they are correct23:34
MadnessRedI just put the _ thingy in a try statement23:36
MadnessRednot try23:36
MadnessRed1 thing, don't translate the catagories in tour.ingo23:37
MadnessRedinfo#23:37
UndiFineDok23:38
UndiFineDthen I'll copy them out of their original ones23:38
MuscovyThanks for that fix. :D23:39
MadnessRednp23:40
UndiFineDyes, it is fixed now and I have the tour running23:46
UndiFineDfixes committed23:47
MuscovyI'd call that fix released.23:47
UndiFineDhmm, but the menu is in english, so, where does that need editting23:47
MuscovyFor Ubuntu "fix committed" means it's in beta or pending approval.23:48
UndiFineDdetails ;)23:48
UndiFineDhehehe23:48
UndiFineDthank you MadnessRed23:48
MadnessRednp, I thought that fix commited meant it was available in the most recent commit, and that fix released meant it was available in the last release, eg, fixed for version 1.1 onwards23:50
MuscovyBusSquad says fix committed means it's on Revu or in -proposed.23:50
UndiFineDwell I committed my fixes to bazaar, so that does not mean everyone has them yet23:51
UndiFineDhmmm, some texts are long, too long to fit an image, definitly needs some splitting here and there23:53
MuscovyI think for the time being we're not splicing pages, UndiFineD.23:56
MuscovyI'm not entirely sure though.23:56
UndiFineDno I was go to do so now23:56
UndiFineDI was not going to do so now23:56
UndiFineDI am tired23:56
UndiFineDpff23:57
UndiFineD1 am23:57
MuscovyOh dear.23:57
MuscovyI was up until about 2:00 the night we first got started on the tour.23:58

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