[00:00] <trakinas> !ics
[00:00] <jrib> uLinux: what exactly do you mean by "doesn't do nothing"?
[00:00] <uLinux> jrib: doesnt open videos with VLC by default.. already tried to logout
[00:00] <bazhang> uLinux, this is using mint?
[00:00] <uLinux> Ubuntu
[00:01] <jrib> !defaultapp | uLinux
[00:01] <uLinux> Lucid
[00:01] <trakinas> no one?
[00:01] <kreeper> my sound on my computer isn't working, when i click on system/prefrences/sound it just pops up an error box saying "Waiting for sound system to respond"
[00:01] <uLinux> jrib: that way works.. but the other way doesnt
[00:01] <trakinas> kreeper: was it working before?
[00:01] <kreeper> yes
[00:01] <uLinux> i need to select manually for each format sucks
[00:01] <jrib> uLinux: I'm not familiar with the other setting
[00:02] <kreeper> trakinas: i think i may have uninstalled the sound package
[00:02] <jrib> uLinux: I *think* the general setting you are talking about is more for things like when you put in a dvd, etc.
[00:02] <ring1> uLinux, you could check out ubuntu tweak, which lets you configure all formats at a time
[00:02] <trakinas> kreeper: try to restart the sound services
[00:02] <uLinux> ring1: thats what im doing ;)
[00:03] <kreeper> trakinas: how?
[00:03] <uLinux> but yeah i just didnt uninstalled Totem because of quicktime plugin..
[00:04] <smegzor> CamFox: in nautilus I selected them all and deleted them while holding down shift.
[00:04] <smegzor> they are all mythtv files so their loss isn't the end of the world, though I would like to un-loose them
[00:06] <Aemaeth> i think i need help with my fstab, last time i touched it all sorts of craziness happened until i livecd'd up and deleted my line of text.  my fstab is currently http://paste.ubuntu.com/496145/  and the harddrive info is here: http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2327/screenshot4kg.png
[00:06] <jrib> Aemaeth: so what do you think you need to add?
[00:06] <ClanDouglas> Hello.. I have something I could use help with.. no matter how many browser windows I open, the notification panel shows only one object that when clicked lets me choose which to view.. how do I get it back to one object per browser window?
[00:07] <Aemaeth>  i need Data which is /sda7/
[00:07] <buzzard32> thisperson did that help?
[00:07] <jrib> Aemaeth: yes, construct an fstab line for it.  I'll tell you if anything is wrong
[00:07] <snow_usa> hi
[00:08] <brain0r> hi
[00:08] <Leman_Russ> The Lenovo Ideacentre 320 has an nVidia GeForce 310 GFX card.  Has this card had any issues with Ubuntu?
[00:08] <juve3> CIao
[00:08] <Aemaeth> jrib, k, one sec
[00:08] <juve3> !list
[00:08] <ThisPerson> buzzard32; I am working on it.  This is what I was looking for.  Thanks!
[00:09] <[R]> Leman_Russ: why would it?
[00:09] <trakinas> stupid isp.... anyway...
[00:09] <CT1> Hi.  Is there a utility or command to move all files(photos) in a directory(an subdirectories) into a single directory, removing digitally identical ones and renaming unique ones when their name exists already?  I'd try 'hacking' together a quick and dirty python script, but I'm very new to python and don't want to mess things up.  Any ideas?
[00:09] <Aemaeth> jrib, UUID=a3c50d78-9b94-41c6-b2d2-a9b23eb78fd1   /media/Data  ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
[00:10] <Aemaeth> the options field and numbers after that i don't understand
[00:10] <jrib> Aemaeth: just use "defaults" for options and the last number should be a '2' instead of a '1'
[00:11] <erUSUL> CT1: maybe better run fdup in the dirtree then move the files ?
[00:11] <kreeper> trakinas: how do i restart the sound services?
[00:11] <trakinas> kreeper: i quite dont remember. sorry. =/
[00:11] <CamFox> smegzor: I think you're out of luck, most likely. Check the link from ubottu perhaps
[00:12] <Aemaeth> jrib, k, if i make it back, thanks
[00:12] <kreeper> ok, then does anyone else know how to restart the sound services?
[00:12] <trakinas> I have an WiFi connection (ubuntu). and ordinary ethernet cable. I want to share tmy connection with and win machine (which does not have a wifi cable, nor a gigantic cable able to  reach the house's second floor. ). so.... My Ubuntu has "share internet connectio" checked. Rebooted. xp cant get ips through dhcp, nor ping 10.0.0.4 (my machine) if I manually setup it
[00:12] <trakinas> any thought?
[00:12] <saikat> anyone here good with monit?
[00:13] <CamFox> !undelete | smegzor
[00:13] <trakinas> kreeper: probably pulseaudio restart
[00:13] <ClanDouglas> trakinas: firewall?
[00:13] <[R]> trakinas: you need a crossover cable
[00:13] <fordfasterr> for some reason, apt won't fetch webmin for me on ubuntu server 64 bit.
[00:13] <trakinas> ClanDouglas: on windows?
[00:13] <fordfasterr> This worked fine with a similar 32-bit install... any ideas ?
[00:13] <erUSUL> !webmin | fordfasterr it is not there
[00:13] <ClanDouglas> No.. Ubuntu Lucid Lynx.
[00:13] <trakinas> [R]: no, I dont.
[00:13] <[R]> trakinas: if you say so
[00:14] <trakinas> [R]: I could share it with an old iBook once
[00:14] <ClanDouglas> Oh.. yes.. windows..
[00:14] <fordfasterr> damn.
[00:14] <fordfasterr> but I like it !!
[00:14] <[R]> trakinas: maybe the ibook's network card was smart and your laptop's and the windows' isn't
[00:14] <CT1> erUSUL: Thanks.  Looks like half the solution already!
[00:14] <Shwaiil> Q: I've installed ubuntu first time, wirless is not working. Trying to fix it, but there's a dependency error DKMS. The computer has no internet connection, no ethernet available. What the hell is DKMS ? Any tip ? tks
[00:14] <Shwaiil> Error: dependency is not satisfiable: dkms
[00:15] <maco> Shwaiil: dkms is what automatically compiles drivers for the running kernel. it should be available if you use the cd as a repository, i believe
[00:15] <llutz> !info dkms
[00:16] <trakinas> [R]: perhaps! I just wanted to test some stuff here, nothing important anyway, I could hook a wireless card on it, but I cant open because I will avoid warrant. and since this isnt my machine, I won't take the risk.
[00:16] <ThisPerson> buzzard32; I think this will work.  Thanks.
[00:16] <[R]> trakinas: so get a hub/switch and try again
[00:16] <[R]> trakinas: that'll rule out the cable
[00:16] <buzzard32> thisperson you are welcome
[00:16] <[R]> trakinas: or just get a crossover cable
[00:16] <trakinas> fordfasterr: you could try opennms if that fit your needs
[00:17] <trakinas> [R]: I dont have any connector here, or else, if try that. thank you anyway.
[00:17] <fordfasterr> as long as I have something similar to webmin, that'll do it for me.
[00:17] <fordfasterr> and it must be web based.
[00:17] <trakinas> *I'd try that.... not if...
[00:18] <erUSUL> !ebox | fordfasterr
[00:18] <Aemaeth> jrib, thanks! now my porno wallpapers saved on my data drive get loaded up on boot!
[00:18] <trakinas> fordfasterr: what webmin does, exactly?
[00:18] <erUSUL> fordfasterr: the webimin factpid mentions ebox
[00:18] <jrib> Aemaeth: great!
[00:18] <Aemaeth> surely you are a king among men
[00:19] <dwight> Can anyone help? I have a box that won't boot.
[00:19] <fordfasterr> ebox, 141 mb !
[00:19] <fordfasterr> omg. lol
[00:19] <Shwaiil> maco, thanks for lookinh. "it should be available if u use the cd as a repository", on the help I see "in comonent main". This is my first time in ubuntu, or even linux. Are u refearing to the cd I downloaded from ubuntu ?!
[00:20] <maco> Shwaiil: yes that one
[00:20] <maco> Shwaiil: you can put it in and ubuntu will offer to use it as a repository for installing software offline
[00:20] <Shwaiil> maco, ah ok found on the cd. but the way the cd is organized I had to keep opening folders till find it :P
[00:20] <buzzard32> dwight first figure out if it is hardware or software
[00:20] <EvilPhoenix> dwight:  we need more details than that
[00:20] <mhall119> what's a good/easy way to stream MP3s from a Linux server to multiple other computers on the same network, preferably Linux and Windows ones?
[00:21] <Shwaiil> maco, I dont know how to make ubuntu use it as a repository, so I explored it manually :P
[00:21] <bazhang> mhall119, mpd perhaps
[00:21] <bazhang> !info mpd
[00:21] <maco> Shwaiil: hm i thought it should pop up a thing in ubuntu... system -> administration -> software sources would also have an option for it
[00:21] <buzzard32> dwight does the power supply light up
[00:22] <dwight> buzzard32  software. seems like it can't locate kernel.
[00:22] <dwight> error message happens after grub
[00:22] <buzzard32> dwight so live cd boots ok then?
[00:22] <bazhang> mhall119, and a client such as sonata or the like
[00:22] <dwight> live cd is fine
[00:22] <dwight> it's up right now
[00:23] <buzzard32> version 10.04 is what will not start?
[00:23] <Leman_Russ> [R] There are always issue possibilities with Ubuntu.  I rarely get anything running on it simply.
[00:23] <dwight> yes. 10.04
[00:23] <[R]> Leman_Russ: you're doing somethign wrong then... things always "just work" for me in ubuntu
[00:24] <dwight> tried fsck; got no errors. hope i did it correctly.
[00:24] <mhall119> bazhang: anything using a standardized protocol, or maybe itunes compatible?
[00:24] <Leman_Russ> [R] Everything?  I don't believe you.  For example, have you ever tried installing an E-MU 1616m soundcard?
[00:24] <IdleOne> mhall119: vlc can stream
[00:24] <[R]> Leman_Russ: i'ev never even heard of an e-mu
[00:24] <mhall119> IdleOne: stream in, or out?
[00:24] <IdleOne> mhall119: both
[00:24] <buzzard32> dwight maybe x is not coming up, are you getting to a command line
[00:24] <mhall119> okay, I'll look into that
[00:25] <IdleOne> mhall119: there are a few howto's out on the tubes
[00:25] <mhall119> do any of these offer remote-control? next, prev, play pause, etc?
[00:25] <step21> mhall119: there should be things that show up in itunes as a library or something, but don't remember the acronym atm
[00:25] <IdleOne> mhall119: that I don't know
[00:25] <Loshki> Leman_Russ: my experience is similar to yours. Stuff works, more or less, but things need lots of twiddling before they work the way you want...
[00:25] <ntr0py> it eclipse with sun java broken on ubuntu?
[00:25] <dwight> I am not getting to command line. System fails to locate a kernel
[00:26] <tensorpudding> dwight: is it a grub error?
[00:26] <Leman_Russ> [R] well there you go then.  If you are going things like browsing on the internet and using IRC, Ubuntu is fine, but when you need to do something a little more esoteric or away from what most people use computers for, it shows cracks
[00:26] <buzzard32> dwight are there multiple os installs?
[00:26] <[R]> Leman_Russ: and a plain old regular nvidia card is "esoteric"?
[00:26] <mhall119> ntr0py: did you get the gcj version of Eclipse, or the regular one?
[00:26] <maco> [R]: or maybe you're just lucky / vigilant in your hardware purchases. not everyone is. if all hardware just worked, kernel hackers could all retire to a beach in hawaii
[00:27] <dwight> I think it is a grub error, but not sure. There's only one OS installed.
[00:27] <callgary> Hey, anybody ever run ubuntu on twin flat screens and a xfx 7600 (nvidia) card???
[00:27] <ernestoxbox> hola
[00:27] <mhall119> maco: nah, there'd still be scheduler fights to win
[00:27] <ernestoxbox> no
[00:27] <sudobash> my lexmark X5070 stopped working, I am getting errors in dmesg like usb 1-8: usbfs: interface 2 claimed by usb-storage while 'usb' sets config #1, it was usblp instead of usb_storage but I blacklisted usblp and it went to usb_storage, if I rmmod usb_storage it goes to usb_hid and if I rmmod that all USB stops
[00:27] <maco> mhall119: heh thats true
[00:27] <ntr0py> mhall119: i took it from the std repos as i did with sun java on my x64 ubuntu 10.04
[00:27] <ernestoxbox> como integrar firefox on kde 4( kubuntu+
[00:28] <IdleOne> !es | ernestoxbox
[00:28] <bazhang> ernestoxbox, english here please
[00:28] <ntr0py> mhall119: i do get a segfault in com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.parsers.XML11Configuration.parse
[00:28] <ernestoxbox> ok
[00:28] <buzzard32> dwight Try reinstalling grub
[00:28] <Leman_Russ> [R]  You are obviously not aware of the ATi issues which pop up ALL the time.
[00:29] <[R]> Leman_Russ: ati is crap
[00:29] <[R]> Leman_Russ: everyone knwos that
[00:29] <callgary> Hey, anybody ever run ubuntu on twin flat screens and a xfx 7600 (nvidia) card???
[00:29] <dwight> Can you talk me through that? I know chroot is involved, but I can't remember everything.
[00:29] <sudobash> how does it help just bashing a manufacturer instead of trying to help the guy out
[00:29] <maco> [R]: which is irrelevant to the simple fact that < 100% of hardware is 100% perfectly supported in linux
[00:29] <mhall119> ntr0py: hmmm, looks like a problem with the xml parser, weird
[00:29] <Loshki> Leman_Russ: In fairness, I hae to add tha the 'esoterica' issue isn't confined to Ubuntu, or even linux or even operating systems. Basically. the more obscure the task, the more less well debugged/document it will be...
[00:30] <maco> [R]: now please stop trying to tell users it is *their* fault for "doing something wrong" when a driver is just plain crap
[00:30] <Leman_Russ> [R]yes, but they are a GFX card manufacturer, and I was asking a question about another GFX card manufacturer because of possible issue.  Researching before purchase, if you will
[00:30] <tru3fate> can anyone tell me wat messenger can video chat
[00:30] <sudobash> the errors go from usblp to usb_storage to usbhid
[00:30] <mhall119> ntr0py: do any other Java apps run?
[00:30] <buzzard32> dwight restore grub 2 from the following link
[00:30] <JoeSomebody> can an ati 4650 card work in ubuntu? is there a page about it somewhere?
[00:30] <fordfasterr> ok, now I have ebox
[00:30] <buzzard32> dwight https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD
[00:30] <Loshki> Leman_Russ: more less -> less
[00:30] <fordfasterr> ... but no way to modify or install anything...
[00:31] <sudobash> usb 1-8: usbfs: interface 2 claimed by usb-storage while 'usb' sets config #1
 Oh, I agree 100%.  I am only talking about Ubuntu because this is the OS I want to use.  If I was going to be using XP, or whatever, I would be asking the same questions on some XP forum, wouldn't I.
[00:31] <_dreamy> hi does anyone knows whats wrong with amule when it starts shown numbers above 2000 sources .. and strange file names?
[00:31] <Ekips> What's the best way to add an IPv6 IP to an kvm tunnel interface? (I'm using sixxs tunnels and kvm) Adding it to /etc/network/interfaces as described here: http://www.sixxs.net/wiki/KVM doesn't seem to work
[00:31] <fordfasterr> I want to change samba/apache settings, etc...
[00:31] <sudobash> its like the printer doesnt have the right permissions or something
[00:32] <Ekips> Neither can I manually add an IPv6 IP to the bridge interface
[00:32] <dwight> buzzard 32 I'll try this right now and get back to you. Thanks.
[00:32] <callgary> tru3fate: google does video chat
[00:33] <Loshki> Does skype do video yet?
[00:33] <maco> Loshki: yes
[00:33] <EvilPhoenix> if I need ebox to run at its basic level, provide network time sync, and i need it to manage the firewall, what do I need to install for it?
[00:33] <Loshki> maco: thanks
[00:33] <Exxon> tru3fate:  can do video chat with amsn
[00:34] <callgary> tru3fate: goto google web page and add the chat gadget
[00:34] <ntr0py> mhall119: it worked before but some ubdate seems to have broken thinks badly
[00:35] <mhall119> ntr0py: try installing libxerces2-java, maybe eclipse will use that instead of the sun packages classes
[00:35] <callgary> tru3fate: also Skype is a free download and is specifically for video chat
[00:36] <fordfasterr> also, the module status page doesn't show any of my other installed servers... strange
[00:36] <ntr0py> mhall119: i had installed 2.9.1
[00:37] <shugart> whats the best way to figure out if my ubuntu install is hung on creating the partition ?
[00:37] <callgary> Hey, anybody ever run ubuntu on twin flat screens and a xfx 7600 (nvidia) card???
[00:38] <fordfasterr> ok, the wiki says to run this command: sudo apt-get install “^ebox-.*”
[00:38] <fordfasterr> another 175 mb and we'll see if I get all of the modules...
[00:38] <JoeSomebody> can an ati 4650 card work in ubuntu? IF so is there a page about it somewhere?
[00:38] <fordfasterr> I'll be out of drive space soon... this test platform is an amd64 thin client with just 2 gigs of flash storage.
[00:39] <ntr0py> mhall119: other java apps and browser applets have no probs so far...
[00:39] <step21> mhall119: what you want is called daap sharing. rhythmbox, banshee, songbird all have it at least as a plugin and there are also server like apps like firefly media server
[00:39] <jandtd> cool so Im not a trool anymore!!!
[00:40] <Loshki> fordfasterr: Um, out-of-the-box ubuntu isn't configured to be particularly economical with drive space. You can probably cut the size back if you need to...
[00:41] <step21> Loshki: yeah, like delete openoffice
[00:41] <ntr0py> mhall119: this is what i get when i start eclipse freshly installed http://pastebin.com/cY9v1Wkg
[00:41] <CT1> 2 questions, how can I move all files in a directory's subdirectories  to its root, renaming files with the same name? Secondly, is it wise to have 10000+ files in a single directory on an ntfs volume?
[00:42] <jandtd> anyhow  how do I make more space on a extended partition so I can use another 50GB?
[00:42] <Loshki> fordfasterr: step21: the desktop stuff seems to be quite bulky too, if you can live without one, or with a lighter-weight one...
[00:43] <uLinux>  I pressed ctrl+alt+f1 but couldnt get back to GUI
[00:43] <uLinux> o.o
[00:43] <CT1> jandtd: Try gparted
[00:43] <Merritt> Updates seem to have frozen setting up a new kernel. Can anyone tell me the safe way to deal with this? Just kill it and restart updates, or..? http://picpaste.com/pics/update-fail-iBPioYNV.1284845951.png Thanks!
[00:43] <trakinas> uLinux: do the same but with f7
[00:43] <uLinux> trakinas: didnt know :P so i hit ctrl alt del or something
[00:44] <jandtd> CT1: how does one do that?
[00:44] <step21> Loshki: true.
[00:44] <trakinas> uLinux: you have different ttys on f*
[00:44] <callgary> use the mv command
[00:44] <uLinux> ttys?
[00:44] <trakinas> !tty | uLinux
[00:44] <dwight> buzzard32 got new error message
[00:45] <Shwaiil> Q: I on the terminal, theres sudo password for current user, but I cant input trough keyboard
[00:45] <Loshki> fordfasterr: step21: is there a lighter variant than a server install?
[00:45] <dwight> error: couldn't read file
[00:45] <trakinas> Shwaiil: yes you can. it just not displayed
[00:45] <callgary> CT1: use the mv command > mv filename /dir/subdir/
[00:45] <uLinux> nice
[00:45] <CT1> jandtd: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package manager.  Search for gparted and install it.  Are you in ubuntu?
[00:45] <Jay-> is there a program for ubuntu that is like the mac that allows me to launch apps by starting to type the name and then hitting enter?
[00:46] <step21> Loshki: probably, but not sure if that is much use to you
[00:46] <dwight> kernel panic - not syncing: VFS : Unable to mount root fs on uknown -block(0,0)
[00:46] <Jay-> i think it's called spotlight in mac os
[00:46] <step21> Jay-: yes ...
[00:46] <jandtd> CT1: yes  GParted is in stalled   just looking for the safest way to do it
[00:46] <ntr0py> anyone has eclipse running with Sun Java on x64 Lucid?
[00:47] <IdleOne> Jay-: gnome-do
[00:47] <Loshki> I found this on google: http://lightlinux.blogspot.com/2009/02/lightweight-ubuntu-derivatives-for-old.html
[00:47] <tensorpudding> Jay-: I think you're thinking of Quicksilver, and there is, it's called Gnome-Do
[00:47] <Jay-> awesome, does it run well?
[00:47] <IdleOne> Jay-: give it a try :)
[00:47] <xangua> Jay-: gnome-do. kupfer, launchy; kde desktop has it built in
[00:47] <tensorpudding> Jay-: indeed
[00:47] <Jay-> will do thanks
[00:47] <buzzard32> dwight error when grub reinstall or boot up?
[00:47] <Jay-> my mac has made me kinda lazy i guess lol
[00:47] <shugart> any reason why when I run gparted from the live CD that I get an error saying "/dev/sda1 is apparently in use by the system;"
[00:48] <xjkx> why does it say like "it's not possible to move to the trash, wanna delete" ? why would it not, there is space in the disk
[00:48] <mhall119> ntr0py: have you tried the 32bit java?
[00:48] <dwight> buzzard32 error booting system after grub reinstall
[00:48] <CT1> jandtd: Although I've never had any problems with resizing/moving partitions, it's never 100% safe.  Have you backed up any important files?
[00:49] <step21> Jay-: if gnome-do is not to your liking try tracker or beagle
[00:49] <ntr0py> mhall119: not yet, it worked fine with x64 before and other apps have no problems ...
[00:49] <buzzard32> dwight so grub reinstall said succeded then
[00:49] <trakinas> Jay-: those mentioned are more like QuickSilver than the other one I keep forgetting its name
[00:49] <dwight> buzzard32 yes
[00:50] <xjkx> is there a mb limit for moving to the trash ? file was 3gb
[00:50] <mhall119> ntr0py: I see that it's running the server vm, can you tell it to use the client vm?
[00:50] <jandtd> CT1: backed up all stuff I need  neeed to know what partition to delete
[00:50] <Blue1Away> !md5sum
[00:50] <buzzard32> dwight do you have the data on the partition backed up?
[00:50] <Loshki> !grub | dwight Have you poked around this stuff yet?
[00:50] <jandtd> CT1:I have sda10 sda11 and sda12  Im thinking sda12 should go
[00:51] <Loshki> dwight: actually, you want grub2 for 10.04
[00:51] <ntr0py> mhall119: i dont know how i can do that
[00:51] <CT1> What file system does gparted say each of those are?
[00:51] <Shwaiil> Lol stabilished the wireless connection, after installing packages etc following some tips on forums and now the laptop internal mouse doesnt work, stopped working
[00:51] <CT1> jandtd:  What file system does gparted say each of those are?
[00:52] <jandtd> CT1: if I delete sda12 will it mess up my hard drive
[00:52] <dwight> buzzard32 most of it, but I run MythTV on this thing and setting up the database it gonna be a huge PITA
[00:52] <jandtd> CT1: all are EXT2
[00:52] <CT1> jandtd: it will only "mess up" that partition. Not the entire drive.  What is in that partition now?
[00:52] <Shwaiil> Q: How to put that cool effect that makes the windows "morph" when moving or something like this ? Tks
[00:53] <tensorpudding> Shwaiil: Compiz can do that
[00:53] <CT1> jandtd: is there anything listed under Mount Point column in gparted for that partition?
[00:53] <bunny_flask> where do i find the start button?
[00:53] <Shwaiil> tensorpudding, this is my first ubuntu/linux run, what is compiz ?
[00:53] <dwight> I just realized that my live disk is 9.10.
[00:53] <jandtd> CT1: just some old movies and some music file (2004 stuff!!)
[00:54] <tensorpudding> Shwaiil: compiz is a graphical thing that gives you desktop effects
[00:54] <buzzard32> dwight I am not going to be able to help you further. It sounds like you are having an issue with needing a file and i do not know how you could recover it with out an os reinstall.
[00:54] <dwight> buzzard32 I'll try again with a 10.04 disk
[00:54] <tensorpudding> Shwaiil: Download the Advanced Desktop Effects Settings program from the software center
[00:54] <CT1> jandtd: Well, if you've backed up anything you need on that partition, go ahead and delete it.
[00:54] <Loshki> !grub2 | dwight
[00:55] <buzzard32> dwight what cd did you use before?
[00:55] <Shwaiil> after googling it looks that I need a 3d card. this laptop comes with the intel chip :P I dont know if its enough
[00:55] <dwight> thanks for your effort buzzard32
[00:55] <tensorpudding> Shwaiil: Compiz is installed by default, but you need to download the advanced configuration widget
[00:55] <tensorpudding> Shwaiil: Your chip is probably good enough.
[00:55] <Aemaeth> Shwaiil, when working with compiz, i find the fusion applet is also helpful
[00:55] <tensorpudding> Shwaiil: If it can run Windows 7 with Aero, it can probably run Compiz.
[00:56] <jandtd> CT1:  if I delete this partition I can add it to the extended partition?
[00:56] <nothingspecial> tensorpudding: compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:56] <buzzard32> dwight you may have used a cd with the wrong version of grub
[00:56] <Loshki> dwight: it will be easier for us to help you if you could famiiarize yourself with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2...
[00:56] <Aemaeth> Shwaiil, and of course the additional packages
[00:56] <CT1> jandtd: do you have a live cd incase you can't boot after?  Don't panic if you can't boot.  It is easy to fix, boot with live cd and ask again.  I've run into a problem where removing a partition and moving another then resizing (well, alot of stuff) my other partitions changed number.
[00:56] <dwight> Loshki ubottu I looked at that stuff, but didn't try it initially as my error message caused me to think it was something else
[00:56] <notworking> my tunapie2 audio is really choppy and stips
[00:56] <notworking> stops
[00:57] <mhall119> ntr0py: pass -client to the java command
[00:57] <ramu> hi, i use wireless network. how to find other computers in network?? for sharing
[00:57] <tensorpudding> Shwaiil: I think the effect name your looking for is Wobbly Windows
[00:57] <mhall119> ntr0py: but reading the manpage, it seems 64-bit java only has the Server VM
[00:57] <jandtd> CT1:  thats ok Im on a live cd now
[00:57] <ramu> hi, i use wireless network. how to find other computers in network?? for sharing
[00:57] <nothingspecial> ramu: depends what they are runnining
[00:57] <Aemaeth> i luv the wobbily windows
[00:57] <ramu> i didnt get you
[00:57] <buzzard32> dwight what ubuntu live cd version did you try previously?
[00:58] <CT1> jandtd: Yes, I assume it's in the extended partition now right?
[00:58] <ramu> im using ubuntu 10
[00:58] <ramu> .04
[00:58] <uLinux> ramu: if the other machines are using windows you need to install samba
[00:58] <Loshki> dwight: your symptoms sound to me like grub is misconfigured. It's supposed to autoconfigure itself, but sometimes it messes up.
[00:58] <TiK_> ubuntu > fedora
[00:58] <dwight> I accidentally did 9.10
[00:58] <ramu> ok
[00:58] <nothingspecial> rammu: windows, linux?
[00:58] <ramu> im using linuxunbuntu
[00:58] <ramu> other windows7
[00:58] <dwight> I accidentally did 9.10 buzzard32 Loshki
[00:58] <jandtd> CT1: yes extended partition
[00:58] <nothingspecial> rammu: samba
[00:58] <ramu> ok
[00:59] <ramu> thank you very much @all]
[00:59] <ramu> ill try now
[00:59] <dwight> buzzard32 Loshki I'll burn a 10.04 CD and try this again
[00:59] <Loshki> dwight: 9.10 and 10.4 are pretty close. It might work to try doing a grub2 reinstall from 9.10...
[00:59] <CT1> jandtd: Go ahead.  Best of luck!
[01:00] <jandtd> Im glad you helping as I was clled a trool before like before?
[01:00] <Loshki> dwight: is there something special about your hardware you haven't told us about yet? A reason why the autoconfigure would fail?
[01:00] <dwight> Loshki: If that's the case, I already did the reinstall
[01:01] <jandtd> CT1: so delete sad12?
[01:02] <buzzard32> dwight the part you want to try at the link I gave you earlier is the reinstalling grub2 with the 10.04 live cd
[01:02] <dwight> Loshki: Nothing exotic. Some TV tuners, a Geforce 210... Pretty vanilla.
[01:02] <jandtd> CT1: so delete sda*12?
[01:02] <Loshki> dwight: I'm concerned that if the autoconfig already failed once, it might keep on failing, in which case you may have to do some hand-editing.
[01:02] <CT1> jandtd: If all you've told me so far is true, and I understood it all correctly, yes.
[01:03] <Loshki> dwight: so was this an upgrade? Or a from-scratch mythtv system you're trying to put together?
[01:04] <jandtd> CT1: ok will do that and let you know how it goes
[01:04] <dwight> Loshki: It's been running for 6 months. No upgrade. 10.04 clean install.
[01:04] <shugart> okay, I'm going crazy here, how come I can't get ubuntu 10.04.1 live CD to launch the installer ?
[01:05] <teepark> on my wife's laptop, since upgrading to 10.4 the network manager applet has been missing from the notification area. it has a nm-applet process running but its just not showing up. has anyone seen this before / is it a known problem?
[01:05] <Loshki> dwight: so it used to boot, and suddenly now it doesn't? Do you know what changed?
[01:05] <Bridge|> shugart: should be first thing to happen once gui hits then if u choose to test ubuntu there should be a installer.sh on the desktop
[01:06] <uLinux> teepark: did u try to reinstall the applet
[01:06] <teepark> yeah, I just tried that then logged out of the user and back in
[01:06] <teepark> no dice
[01:06] <shugart> Bridge|: yeah, I end up have to go through the sh script on the gui, which is the first time in 5 years I've had to do it this way
[01:06] <teepark> package i reinstalled was network-manager-gnome
[01:07] <shugart> Bridge|: does the server edition do the same thing?
[01:07] <Bridge|> it doesnt pop-up with options test or install on boot?
[01:07] <Loshki> dwight: either way, you need to be reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202
[01:07] <ramu> hi, how to install samba?
[01:07] <dwight> Loshki: Over time, it seemed that Grub got fickle. Hardware change a bit, but nothing dramatic
[01:07] <Bridge|> never tried the server ed, just the reg ubuntu distros and netbook remix, and they always gave u option
[01:07] <ramu> i have tried sudo apt-get install samba
[01:08] <ramu> for network sharing from friends
[01:08] <Loshki> dwight: did you move disks around? That can invalidate a boot config....
[01:08] <uLinux> teepark: just a silly question.. is it starting up on boot? (startup applications
[01:08] <uLinux> system > preferences > startup applications
[01:09] <Bridge|> from my understandings and i know i'll prob be barked at by saying this the only main differences is diff kernal and LAMP server all ready installed
[01:09] <dwight> Loshki: Yes, but a long time ago. Has booted since then.
[01:09] <ramu> how to install samba for file sharing
[01:09] <shugart> Bridge|: okay, yeah, I'm going to try the server ed, and just run taskel when I need to
[01:09] <teepark> I see a networkmanager entry in the startup programs
[01:09] <uLinux> ramu: sudo apt-get install samba (from terminal)
[01:09] <hayley> I need some help with installing some type of flash player.
[01:09] <notworking> OK  Ive got tunapie to work except there is a chirping, crackling kinda sound OVER the song being played..something like a bad cell reception but over the song playing.. can someone help me ubuntu 10.04
[01:09] <teepark> nothing specific to the applet, but I do still have an nm-applet process running
[01:09] <Loshki> dwight: back to the 'reinstalling grub2' page for you, then....
[01:10] <buzzard32> dwight how old is the hard drive that has the linux partion on it?
[01:10] <uLinux> teepark: maybe it's a panel bug?
[01:10] <uLinux> try to remove the applet from the panel
[01:10] <uLinux> and add again
[01:11] <teepark> the thing is, I checked on my laptop where it works, and it's not a panel app -- it goes into the systray, and there's a systray panel app
[01:11] <uLinux> ramu: or go to Software Center, search for samba and install the first one
[01:11] <ramu> ok
[01:11] <ramu> thanks
[01:11] <nothingspecial> ramu: that should have worked, did you get an error?
[01:12] <dwight> buzzard32 9 months to a year. Look great on SMART yesterday
[01:12] <d1gital> Hello, room.  I need to make all of the contents of my monitor mirrored (as in a mirror image).  Any ideas?
[01:12] <teepark> omfg that did actually work though
[01:12] <fejes> is anyone familiar with networkmanager.
[01:12] <fejes> ?
[01:12] <teepark> whatever, I can't explain it but good enough :)
[01:12] <teepark> thanks
[01:12] <uLinux> ramu: what is your groupname? workgroup?
[01:12] <uLinux> lol teepark
[01:12] <uLinux> :)
[01:12] <fejes> I have a ridiculous problem with networkmanager not managing the wireless connection
[01:12] <buzzard32> dwight just wondering if it could be hardware but does not sound likely
[01:13] <ramu> aryan$
[01:14] <dwight> buzzard32 Loshki Can a system have too many kernels?
[01:15] <uLinux> ramu: open a terminal and type gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:15] <d1gital> dwight only if they start to pop
[01:15] <uLinux> then you search for workgroup and put workgroup = aryan
[01:15] <fejes> Is there a way to force networkmanager to manage a connection and launch the dhcp...
[01:15] <shugart> new error: "Error creating partition: The Deamon is being inhibited"
[01:15] <dwight> d1gital cute :)
[01:16] <Loshki> dwight: the number of kernels shouldn't matter. Most people keep one current and one previous kernel, 'just in case'. Keeping more than 2 takes up disk space but it's otherwise harmless
[01:16] <ntr0py> mhall119: strange i did reinstall libxerces2-java and tried to reboot with older kernel, couldnt load the nvidia module and rebootet again with current ubuntu kernel and now eclipse starts with no errors??!
[01:16] <dwight> thanks Loshki
[01:16] <Loshki> dwight: good luck...
[01:17] <hayley> who do I ask questions?
[01:17] <fejes> no one here familiar with NetworkManager?
[01:17] <nothingspecial> fejes: what`s up with it?
[01:17] <Monkey_Dust> fejes: shoot
[01:17] <dwight> thanks Loshki
[01:17] <jandtd> dwight: as long as you boot partition is big enough to hlod them all ;)
[01:17] <fejes> nothingspecial: It manages the wired connection, but refuses to manage the wireless connection.
[01:17] <d1gital> Hello, room.  I need to make all of the contents of my monitor mirrored (as in a mirror image).  Any ideas?
[01:17] <fejes> Wireless was previously working, but has now stopped.
[01:18] <Psycho> hello
[01:18] <nothingspecial> fejes: continue, does it recognise it?
[01:18] <Psycho> does anyone know if its possible to install a logitech cam on ubuntu?
[01:18] <nothingspecial> fejas: have you had a kernel update/upgrade?
[01:19] <fejes> nothingspecial: the plasma applet shows it, I can do a sudo iwlist scan, etc... but Network manager in --no-daemon mode never gets past state 2 for it.
[01:19] <m3lvin> hello, a question about nfs, is it possible to mount a share using the name of a share instead of the path? mount 10.0.0.1:/mnt/disk1 is the normal way, what I would like to do is 10.0.0.1:/disk1, this way I could move things in the filesystem but keep the same path in remote computers without braking connections that other apps may have
[01:20] <fejes> nothingspecial: I don't believe i have in the last week.
[01:20] <mastertogo> Hello! I have wubi-installed ubuntu(10.04 i believe) installed on a laptop. The login screen is alll dark colors and when i type my password in it just goes back to the login screen, with an error about the battery manager. I can get into a terminal with ctrl-alt-1. `df' shows ubuntu's drive at 100% usage. I was unable to find a specific culprit with `du -h | sort -nr | less'. Running all the commands here: http://www.absolutelytech.com/
[01:20] <mastertogo> 2010/04/13/solved-unable-to-boot-due-to-gnome-power-manager-error/ does nothing. This happened after a popup said i only have 700mb left, followed by another one that said i have 0 left.
[01:20] <FloodBot3> mastertogo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:20] <callgary> does ubuntu run on twin flatscreens
[01:20] <mastertogo> jesus that was longer than i thought, sorry
[01:20] <fejes> THe incident that triggered this was running out of batteries on my laptop, and it has only worked intermittently since then
[01:20] <callgary> does ubuntu run on twin flatscreens???
[01:21] <fejes> Claudinux: yes
[01:21] <fejes> oh.  oops
[01:21] <fejes> callgary: yes
[01:21] <nothingspecial> fejas: and iwlist etc works? just network-manager doesn`t?
[01:21] <fejes> nothingspecial: yep.  nm-tool shows a list of scanned networks, even
[01:21] <callgary> fejes: I have a nvidia 7600.  is it compatible
[01:22] <DarkSnake> hi? who is from russia?
[01:22] <fejes> callgary: I don't have a list off hand, but it likely is.
[01:22] <bazhang> !ru | DarkSnake
[01:22] <callgary> i'll run from CD first just to see
[01:22] <fejes> good plan
[01:22] <DarkSnake> thx
[01:23] <Loshki> mastertogo: try again with du -x | sort -rn | less.  You can't do an -rn sort because the output of du -h is not strictly numeric
[01:23] <nothingspecial> fejes: don`t know, sorry. Bug?
[01:23] <mastertogo> Loshki, thanks, i'll try that right away
[01:23] <fejes> nothingspecial: yeah.. I'm running out of ideas.  It worked well for the last 8 months.
[01:24] <coafcv> Ubuntu version 10.04.1 is the LTS one that is supported to April 2013, right?
[01:24] <notworking> OK  Ive got tunapie to work except there is a chirping, crackling kinda sound OVER the song being played..something like a bad cell reception but over the song playing.. can someone help me ubuntu 10.04
[01:24] <bazhang> coafcv, yep
[01:24] <jandtd> coafcv: no
[01:24] <fejes> I'm running out of ideas... reinstall, I suppose?
[01:24] <bazhang> jandtd, sure it is
[01:25] <buzzard32> coafcv yes
[01:25] <uLinux> Is there a way to play quicktime videos without Totem+plugin?
[01:25] <coafcv> thanks
[01:25] <bazhang> uLinux, from apple website?
[01:25] <nothingspecial> fejes: last resort - whats your wireless card
[01:25] <nothingspecial> fejes:
[01:25] <jandtd> bazhang: supported till 2013?
[01:25] <uLinux> yes bazhang
[01:26] <bazhang> jandtd, for desktop yes
[01:26] <nothingspecial> fejes: oops you`ve gone, me too
[01:26] <bazhang> uLinux, you need to wget them. apple's site is unfriendly to linux
[01:26] <buzzard32> coafcv the lts version says it is the lts version when you boot it up
[01:26] <uLinux> bazhang: yeah i know :P but wget doesnt work anymore
[01:27] <uLinux> neither with user agent
[01:27] <bazhang> uLinux, could be the forums have a workaround let me check
[01:27] <jandtd> bazhang: have we met before?
[01:28] <fab_> hello
[01:28] <uLinux> bazhang: i tried to ask here before but everyone said it was not possible to save apple trailers on Linux
[01:28] <buzzard32> hello
[01:28] <bazhang> jandtd, join #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss if you wish
[01:28] <fab_> anyone peak french here ?
[01:28] <TiK> nope
[01:28] <fab_> speak
[01:29] <bazhang> uLinux, I'll check nonetheless
[01:29] <IdleOne> !fr | fab_
[01:29] <mwh05> hey all, i've followed this tutorial: http://library.linode.com/email/exim/send-only-mta-ubuntu-10.04-lucid and am now trying to setup a Java application to send mail. Its asking for an SMTP server/port. What do?
[01:29] <fab_> ok thanks
[01:29] <Shwaiil> Q: How to move to next panel auto, when moving a window ?
[01:29] <TiK> mwh05: localhost / 25 ?
[01:29] <mwh05> ah
[01:29] <mwh05> wasn't sure if I had installed everything necessary
[01:29] <TiK> ;)
[01:30] <buzzard32> muh05 try port 25, that it the standard smtp port
[01:30] <jsidhu> hey ubuntu folks, ive got the latest 10.04.1 server running and Ive encountered an old bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hylafax/+bug/477478). Its marked as fixed way back in version 9.1 but its still showing up in 10.04.. its basically a hylafax-server hylafax-client related bug.. where can i check to see if there was a update to these packages?
[01:30] <bazhang> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/tech-tip-view-apple-movie-trailers-firefox-linux uLinux though the quicktime version may have changed
[01:31] <sahil> how does ubuntu figure out which modules to load other than /etc/modules
[01:31] <brandon420> jsidhu, you should just be able to sudo apt-get update && upgrade
[01:31] <jacob_> Hello guys, i wat to install ubuntu 10.04 to my laptop. i have windows installed, so i did a shrink to create a partition from windows 7, but when i'm trying to install ubuntu, ubuntu did not see the new partition it i normal?
[01:32] <EroKaos> What program can I use to automount flash drives?
[01:32] <jsidhu> yeah i tried that brandon420, so if apt-get upgrade doesnt show it, then there's no update?
[01:32] <TiK> jacob: not even under "manual" ?
[01:33] <jacob_> yeah
[01:33] <rww> jsidhu: From the look of it, it was marked as fixed last month, actually. Launchpad shows that Maverick's version was updated recently, and that Lucid's is lower than the version discussed in that bug report, so no, there hasn't been an update to Lucid to address that bug.
[01:33] <jacob_> just does\nt see it
[01:33] <brandon420> jsidhu, i wouldnt think so. they keep it pretty upto date.
[01:33] <TiK> jacob: did you create the partition with gparted and a livecd?
[01:33] <jsidhu> rww: ok, how do i get the fix?
[01:33] <jacob_> now with windows 7
[01:33] <jsidhu> just wait and hope they release it sometime soon?
[01:34] <rww> jsidhu: It won't be updated in Lucid unless someone files a SRU request and it gets approved.
[01:34] <rww> !latest
[01:34] <rww> !sru
[01:34] <jacob_> now with windows 7
[01:34] <TiK> jacob_: use gparted :P
[01:34] <jacob_> ok
[01:34] <jacob_> it is better?
[01:34] <TiK> from a livecd
[01:34] <TiK> well its linux native
[01:34] <jacob_> ok thanks guys
[01:34] <TiK> simple
[01:35] <uLinux> btw bazhang on Firefox if I click on http://trailers.apple.com/movies/independent/9thcompany/9thcompany-tlr1_h1080p.mov it opens the trailer with Totem Movie Player and it works great..
[01:35] <fab_> is there any channel ubuntu france svp ?
[01:35] <bazhang> uLinux, okay nice
[01:35] <Loshki> !fr | fab
[01:35] <bazhang> fab_, yes #ubuntu-fr
[01:36] <rww> fab_: /join #ubuntu-fr
[01:36] <buzzard32> fab_ yes
[01:37] <buzzard32> fab_ list the channels, most languages are supported
[01:37] <mwh05> i don't think the smtp server was installed when I did http://library.linode.com/email/exim/send-only-mta-ubuntu-10.04-lucid
[01:37] <kalm> what fs / raid config would be recommended for Ubuntu with: 2x 1TB 1x 2TB 1x 1.5TB drives?
[01:37] <sepehr> I saw Tahoma looks very ugly in Lucid, anyway to have it more sharp as it is in Windows? other than all those oldie threads I read in forums, telling me nothing!
[01:38] <WillPittenger> For some reason, Ubuntu is not letting me log in.  It accepts my password, but then the monitor goes into text moment for a second and I end up back at the login dialog.  No errors.  Just what resembles a really fast reboot.  This install is a VBox VM.
[01:38] <WillPittenger> Can someone help?
[01:38] <WillPittenger> I had just installed a bunch of packages.
[01:38] <buzzard32> mwh05 use the gui installer and the dependant parts will be included for you
[01:38] <bazhang> WillPittenger, guest additions installed?
[01:38] <WillPittenger> Yes.
[01:38] <mwh05> i'm going through SSH :(
[01:39] <bazhang> WillPittenger, which version of vbox
[01:39] <fab_> thanks bye
[01:39] <WillPittenger> 3.2.8 r64453
[01:40] <bazhang> WillPittenger, sorry, what I meant was the one from their site, or from ubuntu repos
[01:41] <WillPittenger> From their site.  The guest additions came from their CD.
[01:41] <bazhang> WillPittenger, not sure. you might try #vbox if you don't get a satisfactory answer here
[01:41] <WillPittenger> Well, I figured it was a Ubuntu issue.
[01:42] <WillPittenger> Ubuntu just happens to be on a VM.
[01:42] <TimR> as anyboy ran into debootstrap warning when trying to install ubunut
[01:42] <TimR> as anyboy ran into debootstrap warning when trying to install ubuntu*
[01:43] <mhall119> step21: mt-daapd works perfectly for me, thank you
[01:43] <Psycho> can anyone help me find a ubuntu driver for a logitech webcam c250h
[01:43] <Psycho> ?
[01:43] <Psycho> please?
[01:43] <Psycho> ive looked everywhere
[01:43] <Psycho> im not sure if it exists
[01:43] <FloodBot3> Psycho: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:43] <ziggyfish> I use to be able to remotely login to another computer using X11 remote login, however I can't find this option in ubuntu 10.04, has this been removed?
[01:44] <JeroenzKlompz> oi psycho ;-)
[01:44] <Psycho> lol
[01:44] <bazhang> Psycho, check the list of supported webcams, then try cheese/camorama
[01:44] <bazhang> !webcam | Psycho
[01:44] <Viking667> hi there. Quick question to compile a kernel. I've just apt-got linux-source, it's left a tarball in /usr/src - do I simply extract that kernel tree? Or is there another package that holds extracted source?
[01:46] <step21> mhall119: you're welcome
[01:47]  * RadioListener The best balkan irc network irc.balkancafe.org visit us :) if you from balkan ;)
[01:47]  * rww hands idoru a cookie
[01:47] <LinuxGuy2009> I'm looking for an easy way to get a base system install on an offline machine. I tried the alternate CD but it doesnt let you do it. The minimal CD needs internet to work, which obviously wont help me. Can the server CD do this?
[01:47] <TimR> as anyboy ran into debootstrap warning when trying to install ubuntu
[01:48] <ubuntu> computer was on, has been on for the last 2 weeks, and I slightly bump it, it freezes, I reset I get grub error 15, I try looking at the HD from a live cd, and /home is empty ?
[01:48] <ubuntu> wtf is up with that ?
[01:49] <UnknownException> hey everyone. does any1 play warcraft on Garena client?
[01:49] <Viking667> ouch. Sounds ugly
[01:49] <ziggyfish> ubuntu, bad hardware
[01:49] <ziggyfish> ?
[01:49] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Do you have a separate /home partition?
[01:49] <Viking667> UnknownException: hm? never played it. I'm assuming you mean WoW?
[01:49] <ubuntu> ziggyfish, how can /home/myhome folder get deleted if I accidently slightly bumb it
[01:49] <ubuntu> bump
[01:50] <ubuntu> gay
[01:50] <UnknownException> Viking667, yes i mean wow. basically this is for playing Dota and not Wow. but still using Frozen Throne
[01:50] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: If you don't know, look in your /etc/fstab (or just pastebin it).
[01:50] <UnknownException> Viking667,  using a client called GArena which connects gamers.
[01:50] <ziggyfish> ubuntu, is it on a separate hard drive?
[01:50] <Viking667> Given I don't know what "Dota" means, I'm assuming it's a mod for Wow:Frozen Throne
[01:50] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Please be respectfull in this channel.
[01:50] <UnknownException> Viking667,  Dota is just a map
[01:50] <Viking667> ahh.
[01:51] <UnknownException> Viking667,  but it has become so popular now.
[01:51] <Viking667> heh. The good maps do that.
[01:51] <ziggyfish> brb
[01:51] <Viking667> The only thing that holds me away from WoW is the subscription... and as that's not going away any time soon (and I suppose, neither should it) I won't ever be seen on the shards
[01:51] <LinuxGuy2009> Can the server CD be used to do a base install and build it up from there?
[01:52] <UnknownException> Viking667, hehe. yeah. so my problem is, i got this program called Play on linux, that helped me Run the WIndows garena.exe using Wine. But through Garena i am having problem starting war3.exe. I can start war3.exe from the terminal using Wine.
[01:52] <UnknownException> Viking667,  i never started on Wow. and dont plan to. Its too much.
[01:52] <Viking667> Does Garena act as a server chooser for Wow?
[01:52] <ubuntu> ziggyfish nope
[01:53] <ubuntu> my home folder was on the hard drive I am trying to mount
[01:53] <UnknownException> Viking667,  yes for all games now. CS to Wow. But just acts as a lan emulator. Not wow. But maps that u can play on local area
[01:53] <ubuntu> well I can mount
[01:53] <ubuntu> /home/...
[01:53] <Viking667> ah, okay.
[01:53] <UnknownException> Viking667,  it has support for a lot of games and millions of users now
[01:53] <UnknownException> Viking667,  millions might be an exaggeration.
[01:54] <ubuntu> maybe it was a trojan virus
[01:54] <Viking667> heh. Given WoW has millions of users, at least some of those may well be using the Galena client.
[01:54] <step21> ubuntu: if you have another computer try accessing it there and try to recover things with testdisk
[01:54] <UnknownException> Viking667,  They are. but mostly use Windows.
[01:55] <bazhang> UnknownException, support question in there?
[01:55] <UnknownException> Viking I have it working using Wine and Play On lInux. But stuck at the last step, Just need Garena now to be able to run War3.exe
[01:56] <Viking667> Ah, sorry. Garena (galena is a chemical in the periodic table, I think... used to dope transistors with)
[01:56] <UnknownException> Viking667,  hahahaha.. I dont think Galena is an element. But will take your word for it.
[01:56] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: I doubt it.
[01:56] <tensorpudding> Galena is a mineral, lead sulfate I believe.
[01:57] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Can you pastebin the output of "mount" and "sudo blkid"?
[01:57] <Viking667> ah... sounds better than my explanation
[01:57] <UnknownException> there we go. ya i remember the periodic table. never came across that.
[01:57] <bazhang> UnknownException, lets take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:57] <Viking667> but yes, it's certainly used in transistors
[01:58] <PiliStorm> i can't install ubuntu on fake raid
[01:59] <PiliStorm> ich10
[01:59] <jason_> hello
[01:59] <PiliStorm> help me
[01:59] <JLaverne> !hello jason
[01:59] <tensorpudding> !hi | jason_
[01:59] <Jordan_U> PiliStorm: Unless you need to dual boot with windows it's best to avoid Fake RAID?
[01:59] <JLaverne> woops
[01:59] <jason_> hello everone
[02:00] <Jordan_U> PiliStorm: Sorry, that wasn't meant to be a question :)
[02:00] <RandBrittain> Why is it that every time I try to make a USB stick that will boot Ubuntu using the Startup Disk Creator from inside Ubuntu, I get a "Boot Error" no matter which of my thumb drives I use?
[02:00] <CajunTechie> Hey everyone, anyone know the details of adding your own software to Software Center? I hear that's going to be supported starting in October.
[02:00] <PiliStorm> i dont need dual boot
[02:00] <PiliStorm> only ubuntu
[02:00] <evilbug> could faulty ram modules ruin an install process?
[02:00] <PiliStorm> i only install ubuntu
[02:00] <tensorpudding> PiliStorm: you could always go for software raid
[02:00] <PiliStorm> i dont like soft raid
[02:00] <Guest62491> good afternoon. can anyone please assist me with a question. How can I make a folder being shared in samba smb.conf so that it is writable by selected IP's similar to host allow, but read only for other IP's?
[02:00] <ubuntu> http://pastebin.ca/1943866
[02:00] <Jordan_U> PiliStorm: Why?
[02:01] <PiliStorm> my chipset is ich10
[02:01] <bsmith0931> does wget have a specific order it downloads in when doing a mirror of a website?
[02:01] <PiliStorm> ich10r
[02:01] <RandBrittain> I mean, I would think the Startup Disk utility that comes with Ubuntu would work best, but apparently not?
[02:01] <PiliStorm> what can i do
[02:01] <Jordan_U> PiliStorm: Why don't you like Software RAID?
[02:01] <evilbug> i'm trying to install ubuntu on an older pc and the install always fails at kernel install.
[02:01] <PiliStorm> performence
[02:02] <Viking667> Software RAID uses the CPU to do some of the "heavy lifting"
[02:02] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, not sure what that is going to do...
[02:02] <tensorpudding> PiliStorm: have you read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[02:02] <PiliStorm> fake raid high performence
[02:02] <bsmith0931> wget ... does it mirror alphabetaically or just going down the root structure or what and in a mirror operation can i get an overall progress bar or not?
[02:02] <Jordan_U> PiliStorm: Fake RAID uses software running on the CPU just like linux Software RAID does. I actually expect Linux software RAID to be faster.
[02:02] <Viking667> ... whereas Hardware RAID is entirely in the internal interface, and usually doesn't need the CPU's help
[02:03] <PiliStorm> i sure hardware better than soft
[02:03] <Twist> Can anyone help me with a network card issue?
[02:03] <Jordan_U> PiliStorm: Fake RAID isn't hardware RAID.
[02:03] <PiliStorm> ich10r?
[02:03] <PiliStorm> is'nt hardware?
[02:04] <Jordan_U> PiliStorm: Hence the "fake". It's just code that runs in the BIOS, and only for the first few seconds of the boot process before the kernel starts.
[02:04] <tensorpudding> PiliStorm: read the link I sent, it explains why "fake" RAID that is provided by southbridges like ICH10 is not a performance win
[02:04] <sedulous> Fake raid only exists to cirvumvent Windows restrictions, I'm sure.
[02:04] <ubuntu> ok so any clues as to how I can recover my missing /home folder on my hard drive that got bumped
[02:04] <sedulous> (desktop versions of Windows don't support S.W. RAID)
[02:04] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Can you pastebin the output of "mount" and "sudo blkid"?
[02:04] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ca/1943866
[02:05] <PiliStorm> but windows support fake raid perfect
[02:05] <RunningAim> hello..i have installed the latest ubuntu server and i have installed gnome.first question is whether i can make the system work as a domain so windows users can connect to it...and second question is whether i can resize my hard drive which is lvm.
[02:05] <ubuntu> http://pastebin.ca/1943868
[02:05] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, ^
[02:06] <jfullernz> good afternoon. can anyone please assist me with a question. How can I make a folder being shared in samba smb.conf so that it is writable by selected IP's similar to host allow, but read only for other IP's?
[02:06] <tensorpudding> PiliStorm: Unless you bought a dedicated RAID card that obviates the IDE/SATA bus, the kind that costs several hundred dollars, you're not going to get performance benefits.
[02:06] <ubuntu> still doesnt make sense why after I bump it, it fails to boot, and when I get mount in from a live cd, my home folder in /home is completely gone..
[02:06] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Can you pastebin /media/sda1/etc/fstab ?
[02:06] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ca/1943871
[02:07] <PiliStorm> soft raid performence better than fake raid?
[02:07] <PiliStorm> why?
[02:07] <hmw> jfullernz: I don't know, but I'd look into user/group stuff
[02:07] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: sudo mount /dev/sda6 /media/sda1/home/
[02:08] <kaddy> bleh
[02:08] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: After running that command you should be able to see the files from your home directory.
[02:08] <JackStonewall> jfullernz:  not exactly what you're asking for, but perhaps http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/red-hat-31/restrict-samba-access-to-only-certain-lan-ip-addresses-575345/ is a start?
[02:08] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, ls
[02:08] <PiliStorm> I Install two SSD AND fake raid, I need high performence
[02:08] <PiliStorm> any body help me
[02:08] <PiliStorm> thanks
[02:09] <hmw> PiliStorm: soft raid is the same as fake raid - for performance you need a hardware raid
[02:09] <JLaverne> PiliStorm, just google it..
[02:09] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, hey thanks !
[02:09] <kaddy> can anyone see my posts?
[02:09] <JLaverne> kady yes
[02:09] <JLaverne> kaddy
[02:09] <kaddy> ahhh good. lol
[02:09] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, any way of recovering this ?
[02:09] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: You're welcome.
[02:09] <ubuntu> well, the grub on it.
[02:09] <PiliStorm> I read the wiki, but I can't install ubuntu on fakeraid
[02:09] <PiliStorm> i readed wiki
[02:10] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, sorry, any way I can recover the grub for this fs ?
[02:10] <PiliStorm> I NEED Install Ubuntu on fakeraid, but not softraid
[02:10] <tensorpudding> PiliStorm: why do you need it on fakeraid?
[02:10] <bazhang> PiliStorm, you've been given the answer please dont repeat
[02:10] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: I'm sure grub can be recovered.
[02:11] <PiliStorm> high performence, i belive ichr10 do something here
[02:11] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, ok. The exact error I am getting is grub error 15
[02:11] <PiliStorm> i belive hardware better than soft
[02:11] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[02:11] <bazhang> PiliStorm, yes, and that's not correct. fakeraid is not hardware
[02:12] <JLaverne> PiliStorm, fake raid is not hardware, thats why its called FAKE raid
[02:12] <PiliStorm> i belive ichr10 do something here
[02:12] <bazhang> PiliStorm, please dont repeat
[02:12] <SoulShadow> i lul'd
[02:12] <PiliStorm> yessir
[02:12] <ciaoBO> i
[02:13] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ca/1943874
[02:14] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, the grub that is on /dev/sdc shouldn't be there I don't think
[02:14] <ubuntu> that hd is for storage only
[02:15] <Kevin`> can someone here please paste ubuntu's kvm/qemu ifup script?
[02:15] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, I remember when I installed Ubuntu to this computer, I had to unplug all my HD's except the one I was installing to because grub would get screwed up for some reason..
[02:16] <Lxndr> Websites visited on Firefox do not give me any sound. Same websites visited in Chrome DO give me sound. How can I make firefox give me sound?
[02:16] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Correct, that's the drive you're currently booting from. If you change the boot order to boot from sda it should boot fine.
[02:16] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, ok where do I change that ?
[02:17] <Lxndr> Websites visited on Firefox do not give me any sound. Same websites visited in Chrome DO give me sound. How can I make firefox give me sound?
[02:17] <trakinas> Lxndr: dont repeat yourself.
[02:17] <snake__> how can i install brother MFC 240C Drivers? It is not in the list of pre-sets, and i am having a VERY hard time.
[02:17] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: It's slightly differnet for each computer. Generally at boot you'll see a message (it may go by pretty fast) saying something like "Press F2 to enter setup".
[02:17] <Viking667> Lxndr: checked that the flash plugin is installed for Firefox?
[02:17] <ubuntu> ubuntu, oh you mean in BIOS
[02:18] <JackStonewall> Anyone know of a way to force the Network Manager Applet to always force itself to disable the "Enable networking" right-click option at boot/re-wake from sleep?  I've found a klugey work-around but it doesn't survive a sleep re-wake.
[02:18] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Yes.
[02:18] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, thats not a /boot thing or something in the grub settings I should be changing ?
[02:18] <uLinux> how can I check the folders that an application uses?
[02:18] <Mathuin> My iPod shuffle (first edition, the pack-of-gum kind) is suddenly no longer visible to Banshee.  I can see it in 'lsusb'.  Is there a way to rebuild the database on the iPod from the command line?
[02:18] <trakinas> uLinux: if I got your question, whereis application
[02:19] <Viking667> JackStonewall: what sort of "sleep"? As in, laptop-shut-lid sleep (suspend to ram with power still running) or hibernate (state saved on hard drive, then restored to memory on powerup)
[02:19] <Lxndr> Viking667: The flash plug-in is installed.
[02:19] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Nope, the only problem you currently are having is that you have an old broken grub install on sdc, and for whatever reason your BIOS has started booting sdc instead of sda.
[02:19] <uLinux> trakinas: it's Totem Movie player
[02:19] <trakinas> check your pm
[02:19] <uLinux> im trying to find it's folder
[02:19] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, yes thats because sdc is Sata, and sda is ide
[02:19] <ubuntu> it wants to boot from the sata first
[02:19] <Mathuin> uLinux: I have had some success in opening the package manager, selecting the package in question, and looking at the installed files in properties.
[02:19] <JackStonewall> Viking, haven't tested the hibernation, but would suspect that that would clobber my solution and re-enable the networking too.
[02:20] <ubuntu> is there a way to remove the grub from sdc Jordan_U  ?
[02:20] <RunningAim> hello..i have installed the latest ubuntu server and i have installed gnome.first question is whether i can make the system work as a domain so windows users can connect to it...and second question is whether i can resize my hard drive which is lvm.
[02:20] <snake__> i need to install my printer, its a brother mfc-240c and the deb binary file didn't do anything...
[02:20] <uLinux> Mathuin: yeah man that works
[02:20] <uLinux> tks
[02:20] <Lxndr> Viking667: It's a version "9.0 r124". Is that the one I should have?
[02:20] <Mathuin> uLinux: no problem, glad I could help!
[02:20] <trakinas> snake__: pastebin the errors you got.
[02:21] <snake__> trakinas, no error occured, i just can't print.
[02:21] <uLinux> Mathuin: like trakinas told me 'whereis app' also works fine
[02:21] <trakinas> i see... canr help much. kinda busy. sorry
[02:21] <Viking667> Lxndr: hm. I thought flash was up to 10 now? 10.1.x.y?
[02:22] <Mathuin> uLinux: neat!  the last time I used that command -- a loooong time ago -- it wasn't as cool. :-)
[02:22] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, I was thinking if I remove grub from sdc it should fix it no ?
[02:22] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Correct.
[02:22] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, do you know what file I need to edit to fix this ?
[02:23] <ranthi> for ubuntu is xfce the lightest yet decently user friendly window manager?
[02:23] <snake__> so is there a special ubuntu room for printers?
[02:23] <ubuntu> snake__, cups ?
[02:23] <ubuntu> #cups
[02:24] <Lxndr> Viking667: If you have any suggestions as to how to get from 9.0 r124 to 10, I'll take them. Whenever I go to download, I seem to get the same version.
[02:24] <avis> stumbleupon is acting out http://www.dailyacid.com/2010/09/youve-gotermail.html  http://cdn.davesdaily.com/pictures/302-fukitol.jpg    thats what they said a long time ago    http://throwourlivesawayforonehappyday.us/  and the Austin Statesman wants to publish my story, i guess it was my imagination that they had assigned to me a girlfriend for the poop you see there in my stumbleupon profiles
[02:24] <Mathuin> Okay, if anyone has any ideas on fixing the iPod, let me know. :-)  AFK for a bit for domestic bliss.
[02:24] <RandBrittain> Grrr. No matter what I do, and using three different thumb drives, the startup disk creator just gives me a 'boot error.' Why is this happening?
[02:24] <bazhang> avis, ?
[02:24] <avis> my girlfriend, gone
[02:25] <bazhang> avis, offtopic for here
[02:25] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, I don't have a /boot/grub/menu.lst on /media/sda1
[02:25] <ipnoid> Does anyone know if it's possible to add launchers to the right click menu?
[02:26] <RandBrittain> Googling seemed to have suggest I needed to eject the thumb drive first, but doing that didn't help.
[02:27] <dassouki> is there a way to make gnome toolbars smaller for netbooks
[02:27] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, and I don't have a /media/sda1/boot/grub/grub.conf either
[02:27] <Niglop> does anybody know why when i edit /etc/bash.bashrc it changes back to what it was?
[02:27] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: The relavant code is stored in the first 466 bytes of the disk, not in any filesystem.
[02:27] <dassouki> although it's small, it is still really large
[02:27] <RandBrittain> Which is annoying, because it's beginning to look as though I'm going to have to reinstall Ubuntu to get fglrx working agian.
[02:27] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: The fact that you don't have the corrosponding files is why you get the error 15.
[02:27] <Loshki> ranthi: for other options, see http://lightlinux.blogspot.com/2009/02/lightweight-ubuntu-derivatives-for-old.html
[02:28] <Leman_Russ> Anyone had any luck using Ubuntu to convert from .avi to .mp4 for HTC Desire phone (Android 2.1)
[02:28] <ubuntu> so is there a way to resolve grub from a live cd ?
[02:28] <Lxndr> Viking667: Okay, I think I found a method to try to download version 10. (I went here: https://www.mozilla.com/en-US/plugincheck/ and it tells me where to click to upgrade). But once I click, it downloads and says "already installed!" when trying to install. Any tips on how to stop this cycle?
[02:28] <Viking667> hm. No idea, sorry.
[02:29] <Loshki> Leman_Russ: I've never done it, but I'd try handbrake first...
[02:29] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, I don't get it so that boot info script shows where grub is installed to, even though it isn't installed ?
[02:29] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: This command will zero out the code portion of the mbr, but you should be *VERY* carefull when using dd like this. A single typo could whipe your entire drive. "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=446 count=1"
[02:29] <RandBrittain> Is a LiveUSB supposed to have a /boot folder on it? Would that be why mine isn't working?
[02:29] <Leman_Russ> Loshiki; What is Handbrake?
[02:30] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: It is half installed, the portion stored in the mbr is still there.
[02:30] <CajunTechie> I have to second Handbrake. It's pretty awesome.
[02:30] <CajunTechie> @Jordan: It's a video encoder/recoder
[02:30] <administrator> exit
[02:30] <Loshki> Leman_Russ: handbrake is one of those programs which converts video formats http://handbrake.fr/
[02:30] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ca/1943881
[02:30] <ubuntu> I just copied / pasted your command and ran it
[02:31] <Leman_Russ> Loshki: Thanks, I will have a look
[02:31] <LinuxGuy2009> Can the server CD be used to install a base system?
[02:31] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Ok, if you re-run boot info script you should no longer see grub on sdc, and the bios should skip sdc at boot.
[02:31] <ron_> test
[02:32] <Loshki> LinuxGuy2009: Yes. And you can add a desktop to that server later on if you decide it's necessary....
[02:32] <Mathuin> Handbrake has crashed on a couple of things for me, and it's not in the regular package repositories (or at least if there is one it's really old and you might as well go to nightlies) but other than that it rocks my socks.
[02:32] <Fableflame> Does the Ubuntu LiveUSB often fail? Two computers I've tried to use it on wouldn't load it.
[02:32] <RandBrittain> Fableflame: I can't get the LiveUSB to work either, and I'm making it from inside Ubuntu.
[02:32] <RandBrittain> I keep getting a "boot error" when I try to boot from it.
[02:32] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, you are correct it is now gone !!
[02:33] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, thanks again !
[02:33] <konobi1234> Fableflame: try to set up boot for USB in BIOS
[02:33] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: You're welcome.
[02:33] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, now to repair the one on /dev/sda
[02:33] <LinuxGuy2009> Loshki: Cool thats what I needed to know. Cause I tried the minimal CD and it requires a network connection and wont work on an offline machine. Will the server CD install the base directly off the CD with no requirement for a network connection so I can use my homemade repo DVD to build the system up from scratch?
[02:33] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: I don't think it needs any repair.
[02:33] <Fableflame> konobi1234, I had THAT part set up. . .
[02:33] <RandBrittain> I've booted from USB before, so I know that isn't the issue on my end either.
[02:34] <ubuntu> ok well I will try it then brb
[02:34] <Fableflame> RandBrittain, same here. I got it to work once. Twice today it just froze while booting. On one computer I just got a black screen after the screen with Ubuntu and the four glowing dots, and the num lock, caps lock, and scroll lock lights were flashing.
[02:34] <jandtd> brb
[02:34] <Fableflame> then on an Acer laptop, it wouldn't do anything after the four dots lit up, it just sat there
[02:35] <Jordan_U> Fableflame: RandBrittain: BIOS's have a lot of odd bugs with booting from USB, if syslinux (used by Ubuntu's startup disk creator and unetbootin) doesn't work you might try installing grub2 and using its loopback feature to boot the Ubuntu iso.
[02:35] <RandBrittain> I just get a 'boot error' message and nothing else, and I've trying making the LiveUSB on three different sticks.
[02:35] <Loshki> LinuxGuy2009: I *think* it will, but I urge you to get a 2nd opinion before you rely on this, 'cos I'm not sure...
[02:35] <RandBrittain> Install grub2 on my computer itself? I might already have that, since I'm running lucid.
[02:35] <Jordan_U> Fableflame: RandBrittain: Doing it with grub2 is unfortunately not automated (yet).
[02:35] <LinuxGuy2009>  Loshki: Ok well Im downloading it with jigdo so Ill find out soon enough. hehe thank you.
[02:35] <uLinux> soon i'll reinstall Ubuntu .. and my question is: if i have 2gb of ram how much swap space should I put during install?
[02:35] <Loshki> LinuxGuy2009: best of luck
[02:36] <jandtd> oh so one ie not banned fronm here as before from ubuntu-ops?
[02:36] <Fableflame> Jordan_U, I was only using it to let my cousin test Ubuntu, I wasn't going to install anything on it. I was trying to "Try without installing"
[02:36] <Jordan_U> Fableflame: I meant install grub2 to the USB drive.
[02:36] <uLinux> i dont want to use 4gb for swap is just too much
[02:36] <Fableflame> Jordan_U, oh, no idea how to do that.
[02:36] <jv__> finally got latest lubuntu on my eeepc and is great
[02:36] <RandBrittain> Jordan_U: How would I install grub2 to a USB drive, then?
[02:36] <brandon420> Movie, Give me a good one.
[02:37] <Fableflame> brandon420, Law Abiding Citizen
[02:37] <brandon420> =/ seen it. lol.
[02:37] <brandon420> about 15 times.
[02:37] <tensorpudding> It's always a good idea to have as much swap as RAM
[02:37] <hmw> uLinux: if you have as much swap as you have RAM, you may suspend to disk, which wont work if you have less swap
[02:37] <tensorpudding> but the 2x rule is probably a waste
[02:37] <uLinux> hmw: ohhh
[02:37] <Jordan_U> RandBrittain: Fableflame: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[02:37] <Fableflame> brandon420, Book of Eli
[02:37] <Mathuin> lubuntu?  Is that the new UNR ?
[02:37] <uLinux> hmw tensorpudding I have 2gb of ram
[02:37] <brandon420> haha, see that too. xD
[02:38] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, if you are going to use "Suspend" feature you need more swap then physical RAM (but i agree 2x is too much these days, my swap is hardly ever touched)
[02:38] <uLinux> but 4gb for swap isnt too much?
[02:38] <brandon420> i have access to any movie everrrmade
[02:38] <jandtd> 1259 users here?
[02:38] <ipnoid> Anyone know how to add launchers to your right click menu?
[02:38] <hmw> uLinux: 4GB sounds like a waste in your case. I'd make sure, that it is a bit more than your RAM
[02:38] <trakinas> uLinux: don't need to follow the 2x memory "rule" if you have more than 1gb
[02:39] <uLinux> so.. 3gb?
[02:39] <jandtd> can all say hello?
[02:39] <hmw> uLinux: I'd make it 2.1GB or so
[02:39] <Fableflame> brandon420, me too, it's called bit torrent
[02:39] <brandon420> Fableflame, called passthepopcorn.
[02:39] <uLinux> currently 0 bytes of 5.6 gb lol
[02:40] <RandBrittain> As another question, if I have 8GB of RAM, and am installing to a solid state drive, and don't plan on hibernating, can I do without any swap?
[02:40] <adalal> hi, my phone indicates that my MyDocs is a read only filesystem .. any reason?
[02:40] <Jordan_U> hmw: Since the hybernation image is compressed you don't really need more swap than physical RAM, though having the same amount is probably a good idea.
[02:40] <uLinux> yeah i also dont hibernate but..
[02:40] <hmw> uLinux: i wrote some ideas on how to partition my boxes on http://80.109.22.34/www.self-pc.org/guides/ubuntu-linux/install.html
[02:40] <trakinas> I have 2gb and 512 of swap
[02:40] <uLinux> ill check
[02:41] <uLinux> it's just stupid ubuntu automatic installion to use 5.6gb
[02:41] <trakinas> RandBrittain: I think you are obligated to create the swap partition
[02:41] <trakinas> uLinux: i dont do automatic since debian woody
[02:41] <tensorpudding> if you don't have a swap partition, i think you'll get a panic if you exhaust your RAM
[02:42] <uLinux> trakinas: it will be the first time doing it manually im thinking of 12gb for / maybe 2gb for swap and rest for /home what do you think
[02:43] <isolat3sh33p> testing
[02:43] <Jordan_U> trakinas: RandBrittain: That's not correct, the installer will allow you to install without a swap paritition. Though I'd recommend having a little swap just in case a program has a crazy memory leak (though you'll run out of swap eventually too, and the OOM killer is pretty good at killing such programs before anything else).
[02:43] <RandBrittain> I see.
[02:43] <trakinas> uLinux: depends on your use and how much space you have.
[02:43] <hmw> uLinux: sounds fine to me. 12 GB is a lot for Ubuntu.
[02:43] <uLinux> im using +-6gb right now
[02:43] <uLinux> for /
[02:44] <Jordan_U> tensorpudding: What happens is that the OOM killer kicks in and starts killing processes.
[02:44] <ipnoid> Anybody know of any way to add launcher to right click menu?
[02:44] <hmw> uLinux: you can always boot the live cd or flash disk and change partition sizes, if you are unhappy.
[02:44] <trakinas> uLinux: I have 80GB and use 20 for / and 50 for /home. I have a 10gb that I usually use as my temp dvd-ripping directory
[02:44] <uLinux> hmw: but i could get in trouble when resizing :P
[02:45] <trakinas> uLinux: 6 will be too less.
[02:45] <GraphicH> GRUB Problem: I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 as the only operating system, I need access to the GRUB menu in order to add the options pci=nomsi to the boot command list
[02:45] <thune3> ipnoid: a generic one, or for a specific file type?
[02:45] <GraphicH> Any help appreciated
[02:45] <trakinas> mine: /dev/sda3              13G  4.5G  7.4G  38% /
[02:45] <hmw> ipnoid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NautilusScriptsHowto
[02:45] <Kevin`> GraphicH: hold down shift
[02:45] <GraphicH> Kevin`: triedd that no go
[02:45] <anxiolytic> I upgraded from 8.04 to 9.10 to lucid
[02:46] <Jordan_U> GraphicH: Does your keyboard work in the BIOS menus?
[02:46] <iwobbles> hi I accidentally deleted the top pannel which has system chutdown etc and applications in it is there a way to restore it ?
[02:46] <bazhang> anxiolytic, in one step?
[02:46] <Jordan_U> !panelreset | iwobbles
[02:46] <anxiolytic> I rebooted and im stuck at the login window. even after I put in the correct pw, it shows a black screen and then shows the login window again. just loops there.
[02:46] <anxiolytic> bazhang: in 2 steps
[02:46] <GraphicH> Jordan_U yes it does
[02:46] <anxiolytic> bazhang: 9.10 worked fine so the issue occured between 9 -> 10
[02:46] <Jordan_U> GraphicH: And you started holding shift while it was still in POST?
[02:46] <Anom01y> Jordan_U, its me ubuntu,
[02:47] <Anom01y> thanks for the help there
[02:47] <switch10_> GraphicH: it should work.  hold down shift as soon as your machine posts
[02:47] <uLinux> i dont know..
[02:47] <bazhang> anxiolytic, lts to lts is one step you realize
[02:47] <Jordan_U> Anom01y: You're welcome.
[02:47] <Anom01y> Jordan_U, I am back up and running. I was freeked out for a bit there
[02:47] <uLinux> 10gb for / 2 for swap
[02:47] <uLinux> :s
[02:47] <Anom01y> I forgot I put my home folder on another partition
[02:47] <GraphicH> Jordan_U: it does drop straight to busy box, some quirk of my hardware I always have to add the parameter pci=nomsi to the boot line listed in grub
[02:48] <uLinux> and btw i watched some dude doing a partition for boot.. why?
[02:48] <anxiolytic> bazhang: I did it in 2 steps, I know 8.10 to 10 is 1 step, I went from 8.04 to 10
[02:48] <uLinux> for /boot
[02:48] <anxiolytic> bazhang: but I'm in 10 right now so that's irrelevant. I can't really downgrade
[02:48] <iwobbles> mm now all panels are gone lol, even lost the pannell at bottom of screen, ummm,
[02:48] <hmw> GraphicH: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1366354
[02:48] <anxiolytic> bazhang: it seems like others have had the same problem but no solution: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2010-April/214451.html
[02:48] <Jordan_U> GraphicH: Have you tried holding shift during boot, being sure to start holding shift while the BIOS is still in POST (or even before you hit the power button unless that makes your BIOS complain).
[02:49] <thune3> anxiolytic: sounds like X is crashing, you might login to tty and check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and other logs to see what is happening.
[02:49] <GraphicH> hmw: thats nice but I cant get ubuntu to boot until I add this line to the grub loader
[02:50] <anxiolytic> thune3: problem is when I go to a tty the screen is just black. all of them. I can go back to the login screen though
[02:50] <isolat3sh33p> iwobbles, try in terminal « gnome-panel --replace »
[02:50] <hmw> GraphicH: if you boot into your hard disk, do a web search on "grub2 repair after windows" or something... you need a live cd and then you chroot into the file system
[02:50] <hmw> GraphicH: if you _cant_ boot... sorry
[02:50] <GraphicH> hmw: you dont understand, I cannot boot until I add this option
[02:50] <hmw> uhm... can you boot anything linux? live cd?
[02:51] <hmw> GraphicH: ^
[02:51] <thune3> anxiolytic: i don't know, maybe boot with "nomodeset" or "xforcevesa" boot parameters, and if you get to login then upgrade to proprietary drivers.
[02:51] <trakinas> iwobbles: control+alt t then killall gnome-panel
[02:51] <ipnoid> hmw: thanks
[02:52] <Kevin`> GraphicH: you could just boot from the install cd and change grub to have a delay
[02:52] <hmw> GraphicH: can you boot a live cd?
[02:53] <GraphicRecursion> hwm: yes but I always have trouble mounting drives -_- does not appear to be mounting the hddd automatically
[02:53] <uLinux>  trakinas> uLinux: 6 will be too less.
[02:53] <opakavic> GraphicH, you please listen to hmw
[02:53] <uLinux> for / right
[02:53] <Jordan_U> GraphicH: Have you tried holding shift during boot, being sure to start holding shift while the BIOS is still in POST? (or you can even start holding shift before you hit the power button, unless that makes your BIOS complain).
[02:53] <trakinas> uLinux: yes.
[02:53] <GraphicRecursion> Jordan_U: yes
[02:54] <trakinas> Im already using 4.5 and I don't have that much of apps installed
[02:54] <uLinux> trakinas: so you said 12gb is too much and 6 is too less lol..
[02:54] <TheoryDesigns> hello i just installed ubuntu studio
[02:54] <TheoryDesigns> x64 edition
[02:54] <trakinas> uLinux: i didnt said 12 was too much
[02:54] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: are you GraphicH? It is normal, that your hds are not automounted from the live cd. You need to sudo mount /dev/sdwhatever /mnt   for example
[02:54] <uLinux> trakinas: sry it was hmw
[02:54] <trakinas> uLinux: I think it was someone else. and he/she said it is enough, not too little/much. =P
[02:54] <Kevin`> uLinux: you could always use lvm, you can resize filesystems online then
[02:55] <uLinux> i have 1TB hdd
[02:55] <lintin> hey all
[02:55] <hmw> !hi | lintin
[02:55] <groken> i'm having trouble with vsftpd and ubuntu 10.10. when i set ssl_enable=YES and then sudo service vsftpd restart, the process dies. i can't find any info about this in the logs besides the process trying to restart
[02:55] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: alright, this has always been a problem with this machine, but before it was just easy to edit the boot image commands in grub, Ill try the live cd and mounting that drive
[02:56] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: if you need it, i can dig up the torrent for Ubuntu 9.04 - it had grub1 if i remember correctly
[02:56] <trakinas> uLinux: okay. I'd use 15 / , 1gb /swap/   rest /home/   -- anyone agree?
[02:56] <lintin> yea i just built a new crazy server/workstation, having problems burning with k3b and mounting the drive
[02:56] <uLinux> trakinas: no one :P
[02:57] <Kevin`> trakinas: I wouldn't personally use that layout, but it's somewhat sane
[02:57] <uLinux> 2gb ram 1gb swap
[02:57] <thune3> uLinux: trakinas : with 1TB, i don't see reason to skimp on /, expecially if /tmp is there, since some applications store large things in /tmp. I'd got 20-30GB for / , if I had 1TB.
[02:57] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: I was thinking about it but Id like to use 10. Ive always had this problem with this machine, do you know what the argument pci=nomsi actually does?
[02:57] <hmw> trakinas: uLinux: Kevin`: as stated, having a swap as large as the RAM allows for suspent-to-disk. 1GB swap is totally cool imo.
[02:57] <lintin> i personally dedicate 1tb drive to ubuntu (fle server)  and another drive is raided
[02:57] <uLinux> thune3: well i had 30gb for windows
[02:58] <uLinux> lol
[02:58] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: no idea... i'll do a quick web search, perhaps i find out
[02:58] <Jordan_U> uLinux: trakinas: Now that Ubuntu's installer is smart enough to allow you to preserve your /home (via manual partitioning) without having a separate partition, it doesn't make much sense to make /home separate.
[02:58] <Kevin`> use the lvm. you like the lvm
[02:58] <akm> can any one please send me how to install ubuntu...step by step installation
[02:58] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: its always been a weird magic word for me but I gathered that it has something to do with actually powering on the disk or energy saving power options or something
[02:58] <trakinas> Jordan_U: i see.
[02:59] <lintin> ummmmm its easy
[02:59] <lintin> use guided partition (whole drive)
[02:59] <lintin> then install
[02:59] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=120710
[02:59] <lintin> its gotten so easy
[02:59] <thune3> Jordan_U: you have any links about preserving /home during upgrades on a unified partition?
[02:59] <uLinux> Jordan_U: i dont know but ppl use separate partition for home because then they can change distro or reinstall
[02:59] <Jordan_U> akm: Do you want to dual boot?
[02:59] <akm> no
[03:00] <akm> no Jordan
[03:00] <akm> only singe os want
[03:00] <Name141> Is it possible, from default, to install Ubuntu with min stuff for older machines? No GUI, etc?
[03:00] <hmw> thune3: I usually stop gdm from a console and make a backup tar of /home - this needs a password for root though :(
[03:00] <hmw> thune3: you could do it from a live cd
[03:01] <Jordan_U> akm: Do you already have an Ubuntu CD? And do you know how to boot from CD?
[03:01] <bazhang> !manual | akm please read
[03:01] <akm> I have ubuntu cd and knows to boot..but i dont know step by step installaion
[03:01] <Name141> Or will I have to remove everything I don't want myself?
[03:01] <trakinas> Name141: i *think* there is an option on the menu
[03:02] <bazhang> akm, please look at that manual. many pictures and explanations
[03:02] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: interesting Ive wondered if there was a bios setting for this, its def something to do with the board
[03:02] <lintin> yes, very easy to install
[03:02] <Kevin`> akm: there are instructions on the screen. unless you can't see, it should be pretty easy even without seperate instructions
[03:02] <Name141> trakinas: Should I look for it during the install
[03:02] <thune3> hmw: Jordan_U indicated that an install could take place on unified /+/home without clobbering /home. I'd like more info on this.
[03:02] <hmw> akm: if your hard disk does not contain important data, just start the install from the live cd and read the instructions - it is quite self-explanatory
[03:02] <yuecaijie> yes?
[03:02] <JoeSomebody> hi, my friends canon printer has no linux drivers on the website, sol? or is there a workaround?
[03:02] <trakinas> Name141: when you boot you can choose different kinds of instalation, I believe
[03:02] <Name141> trakinas: Ok, I'll turn it on and see what happens
[03:03] <yuecaijie> how can use the commend?
[03:03] <trakinas> JoeSomebody: aptitude install cups, but look on their page first
[03:03] <akm> I have different partitions
[03:03] <trakinas> !cups | JoeSomebody
[03:03] <ouyes> morning all, is there a lan chat tool?
[03:03] <bazhang> linuxprinting.org says what about that JoeSomebody
[03:03] <Name141> trakinas: it's an old pentium 2 with 10GB hard drive.. I thought it'd be worth using for something atleast
[03:03] <JoeSomebody> thanks :)
[03:03] <shugart> okay, I'm really hitting the wall here, I cannot get ubuntu to partition any of my harddrives from installation
[03:03] <tensorpudding> ouyes: you can use bonjour for chatting
[03:04] <Jordan_U> shugart: What happens when you try?
[03:04] <trakinas> Name141: Id go with debian or even gentoo and custom it myself during install. but I like to suffer.
[03:04] <trakinas> kidding. I dont.
[03:04] <Kevin`> it's possible to use jabber on a lan, right?
[03:04] <hmw> shugart: what problem do you encounter exactly? any error message perhaps?
[03:04] <shugart> Jordan_U: I just get a hung load, 5% on the desktop version, 33% on server
[03:04] <shugart> did memtest, came back clean
[03:04] <yuecaijie> I can't use the dasktop
[03:04] <trakinas> Kevin`: you mean as a "private im"?
[03:04] <Name141> trakinas: I liked debian 'ok'
[03:04] <shugart> tried 4 different drives
[03:05] <Name141> trakinas: but I had to hunt and search around to figure out where to get the debs
[03:05] <shugart> 3 different downloads, 5 different cd-r's
[03:05] <hmw> shugart: did you check the CD integrity? get the hash sum and verify the CD
[03:05] <uLinux> btw.. before I reinstall Ubuntu I will delete the current partitions.. so i go to live cd .. gparted and just delete all the partitions?
[03:05] <yuecaijie> yes
[03:05] <Kevin`> shugart: is there anything in the kernel log?
[03:05] <trakinas> Kevin`: we have a jabber server where I work, so I say it is possible
[03:05] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: got the live cd up but I dont think my drive is in dev
[03:05] <hmw> uLinux: if you partition manually, you can manage the partitions in the install procedure right away
[03:05] <shugart> hmw: yep, md5 is clean
[03:05] <shugart> Kevin`: nope
[03:05] <yuecaijie> NO , I can't find
[03:06] <Kevin`> shugart: I mean, after the problem occurs
[03:06] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: try sudo fdisk -l  and sudo blkid
[03:06] <tensorpudding> ouyes: I think bonjour is listed as "People Nearby" in empathy
[03:06] <trakinas> Name141: I usually do "aptitude search **** " before looking for them =P
[03:06] <ouyes> tensorpudding, it is gui based or text based and where can I find its source code
[03:06] <yuecaijie> ok ,I try
[03:06] <shugart> Kevin`: where would I find that from the live cd ?
[03:06] <Kevin`> shugart: open a terminal and run dmesg
[03:06] <wisna> tes
[03:06] <shugart> Kevin`: I've got server on in it right now
[03:06] <tensorpudding> ouyes: bonjour is the name apple uses for the zeroconf protocol
[03:06] <tensorpudding> ouyes: empathy is the im client that comes with ubuntu desktop
[03:07] <Kevin`> shugart: alt+f2 (or 3 or 4, I forget) has a terminal
[03:07] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: fdisk list nothing and blkid lists /dev/loop0 thats all
[03:07] <uLinux> hmw: so I delete all the partitions and then it only shows dev/sda right?
[03:08] <kiv> hey is their a keyboard shortcut for ejecting the cdrom tray?
[03:08] <tensorpudding> ouyes: http://live.gnome.org/Empathy
[03:08] <shugart> Kevin`: last line is "Adding 9781240k swap on /dev/mapper/server-swap_1. PRiority:-1 exnts:1 across: 9781240k "
[03:08] <hmw> uLinux: I usually do manual partitioning, create a roughly 10GB ext3 and assign the mount point "/", then I create a swap and an ext3 /home
[03:08] <shugart> Kevin`: no errors or panics that I can find..
[03:08] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: I think its not seeing the hardware because the boot image is trying to use that MSI option, is there a way to modify to boot line for the live cd? I have 10.04 did not see an option for it
[03:08] <ouyes> tensorpudding, I saw its in my "internet" tools  empathy  but I just need a small and lan based chat tool
[03:08] <Kevin`> shugart: that's actually strange, if you are BEFORE the partitioning step is completed
[03:09] <tensorpudding> ouyes: Bonjour is LAN-based, it requires no servers or accounts
[03:09] <uLinux> hmw: *ext4 /home?
[03:09] <shugart> Kevin`: yeah, this is the first time this has ever happened, 10.04 had no problems on an identical system, 10.04.1 has the hang
[03:09] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[03:09] <tensorpudding> ouyes: and there are other clients which support it besides empathy
[03:09] <hmw> uLinux: as you wish... ext3 is just my stupid habbit
[03:10] <Kevin`> shugart: wipe the partition table on the drive and start the installer over (unless you need something on it)
[03:10] <Jordan_U> GraphicRecursion: You need to press a key within the first 5 seconds of boot to get the boot menu on the LiveCD.
[03:10] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: seems theyved changed it in 10 though Im sure they have this option somewhere
[03:10] <Name141> trakinas: sorry, I meant the actual mirrors and places
[03:10] <shugart> Kevin`: I've tried that twice. used ultimate boot disk to wipe it last time
[03:11] <ouyes> tensorpudding, yes I see thank you
[03:11] <zt> I resized my partition with GParted but the computer shutdown on the "copying ..." part, is it possible to recover at least certain folders with testdisk?
[03:11] <shugart> Kevin`: when I tried the desktop version, I kept getting a "device in use" type error from gparted even though /dev/sda1 was never mounted
[03:11] <Kevin`> shugart: there has to be something on it now, or it wouldn't be giving that message (indicating there are partitions, and lvm, and at least one of them formatted as swap space)
[03:11] <trakinas> Name141: np. I was just mockering. sometimes my source.list has more unofficial mirrors than officials.
[03:12] <Kevin`> shugart: if it's doing the same thing, take it out of use: swapoff -a; vgchange -an
[03:12] <shugart> Kevin`: " Can't deactivate volume group "server" with 2 open logical volume(s) "
[03:12] <akm> how to install yahoo messenger 10 on ubuntu ?
[03:13] <Kevin`> shugart: check if any of them are mounted
[03:13] <GraphicRecursion> akm: get pidgin
[03:13] <Name141> trakinas: I didn't find a place to select min or anything at all.  Just 'forward forward.. forward.. type in user.. install"
[03:13] <bazhang> akm, try pidgin as a substitute
[03:13] <Kevin`> shugart: the drive is obviously not wiped, though
 but it does not support video calling
[03:13] <akm> and voice calling na???
[03:14] <trakinas> Name141: when you boot. you can choose what kind of boot. I think there is an option there
[03:14] <GraphicRecursion> akm: yes that is a big problem with pidgin
[03:14] <Name141> trakinas: well I was more looking to save on disk space..
[03:14] <GraphicRecursion> akm: Im not sure but theres a client called digsby it may have a linux distro
[03:14] <trakinas> if ubuntu had/have dpkg, have fun. =P
[03:14] <shugart> Kevin`: fdisk -l lists an sda1 "linux" sda2 "extended" and sda3 "linux vm"
[03:14] <mgolisch> who cares? use something thats available on all major platforms, like skype if you need voice/video calls
[03:14] <ouyes> tensorpudding, actually I want to find a lan chat tool under linux and it is small(based on text) and open source ,so that I can read the code and learn
[03:15] <trakinas> or dpkg-select.... cant remember its name.... only that you could select each of the packages you wanted to
[03:15] <GraphicRecursion> akm: digsby supports video chat on the popular protocols and is not a bad application to boot
[03:15] <shugart> Kevin`: I can't forcibly umount /dev/sda
[03:15] <Kevin`> shugart: what's mounted right now?
[03:15] <Name141> trakinas: then use SSH / sftp or Samba
[03:16] <synackfin> how "safe" is the ubuntu installer? (i.e. if I _don't_ want to change existing partition tables -- I have valuable data on certain non-ubunut partitions)
[03:16] <Name141> trakinas: seeing as it is 10GBs just sitting around doing nothing
[03:16] <mgolisch> synackfin: if you dont trust it use debbootstrap and a live distribution of your choice to install ubuntu
[03:17] <hmw> synackfin: dont use the automatic partitioning - if you do it manually, be careful and double check everything.
[03:17] <mgolisch> but its usualy ok, never destroyed anything for me
[03:17] <anxiolytic> I installed Lynx and rebooted and im stuck at the login window. even after I put in the correct pw, it shows a black screen and then shows the login window again. just loops there.
[03:17] <shugart> Kevin`: I'm just seeing /dev/sda mounted after running fdisk -l
[03:17] <Jordan_U> synackfin: It's very safe, especially if you have free space to install to so that it doesn't need to resize anything.
[03:17] <boole> or backup your data first, synackfin
[03:17] <Kevin`> shugart: fdisk -l doesn't show what's mounted, mount does
[03:17] <synackfin> boole: unfortunately it's too much data to back up :(  12TB
[03:18] <akm> how to swap and root file during installation?
[03:18] <synackfin> mgolisch: I look into debboostrap, thanks
[03:18] <Jordan_U> akm: Just use the automatic partitioning.
[03:18] <trojan_spike> anxiolytic, insure its the right password that u put in.. and if u reinstall,, be sure to check the auto log in ..
[03:18] <Niglop> visit somethingawful.com (this is the site 4chan derived from)
[03:18] <Kevin`> btw, I really wish the ubuntu installer had an option THAT WORKED to not use framebuffer
[03:19] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: hold down the shift key while booting, for the GRUB2 menu. Select the entry you want to boot and press "e" and edit the boot line (starting with linux...)
[03:19] <anxiolytic> trojan_spike: auto login should be enabled. It was in 8 before I updated
[03:19] <anxiolytic> trojan_spike: pass is definitely correct
[03:19] <hmw> Kevin`: you are not allone with that wish
[03:19] <trojan_spike> so it was after an update that u couldnt get in??
[03:20] <synackfin> mgolisch: nice, I'm reading about debbootstrap and it's exactly what I'm looking for
[03:20] <shugart> Kevin`: just /dev/sr0 on /cdrom and the regular, /proc, /sys, /dev /dev/pts
[03:20] <dannyming> Hello!
[03:20] <trojan_spike> hello dannyming
[03:20] <Licuadora> Hello, ppl
[03:21] <Kevin`> shugart: wipe the beginning of the drive (assuming it's not using gpt, it doesn't seem to be) with dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M count=10 and press the reset button
[03:21] <Licuadora> Is there a way to copy the whole OS with all my stuff to another HDD?
[03:21] <shugart> Kevin`: wait, okay, this just got weird, I just flipped back to dmesg, and now it's finishing the ext4 partition
[03:21] <Kevin`> shugart: knowing, of course, that the intent of this is data loss
[03:21] <hmw> Licuadora: dd if=/dev/THESOURCEDISK of=/dev/theNEWdisk ... make sure partitions have the same size
[03:21] <trojan_spike> anxiolytic, if there is an alternative linux kernel in loading.. u should us that.. then check forum about that update..
[03:22] <Kevin`> you aren't doing something silly like making a 10tb ext4 partition are you?
[03:22] <shugart> Kevin`: it started up after I ran "mount -a"
[03:22] <Licuadora> I because I want to install Ubuntu in my brother's HDD, but with a liveCD I am gonna have to upgrade once ii installed
[03:22] <hmw> Licuadora: assuming you copy individual partitions
[03:22] <Licuadora> I He does not have internet there
[03:22] <Licuadora> hmw: Well, i am gonna use the whole HDD
[03:23] <hmw> Licuadora: you could also use "partimage" (i use the flash disk with the persistent file system and have partimage installed for such things) and copy the image file to an USB hd
[03:23] <Licuadora> partimage, eh?
[03:23] <Kevin`> shugart: why would you run mount -a during the installer?
[03:23] <enbloc> Should blkid include a trailing \r when it returns a volume label?
[03:23] <hmw> partimage rocks
[03:23] <uLinux> hmw: you use ext3 and i watch ext3 on videos too.. so why do i see ext4 in my /dev/sda5
[03:23] <uLinux> ?
[03:23] <synackfin> what's the difference between 10.04 Desktop and 10.04 Server?
[03:24] <Kevin`> synackfin: default packages installed
[03:24] <hmw> uLinux: uhm, what?
[03:24] <shugart> Kevin`: I actually didn't mean to, I fat fingered it
[03:24] <uLinux> hmw: when you are partitionning (wathever) you should ext3
[03:24] <uLinux> choose
[03:24] <step21> uLinux: because it's a newer version probably, so it uses ext4
[03:24] <uLinux> 10.04
[03:24] <Kevin`> mount would normally show messages like this, btw
[03:24] <Kevin`> [ 1597.317468] EXT3-fs (sdc): using internal journal
[03:24] <Kevin`> [ 1597.317474] EXT3-fs (sdc): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
[03:24] <anxiolytic> when I try to boot into single user mode, I get a black screen with "gibberish" on top, as if my graphics card has a problem. The hardware is fine though
[03:25] <anxiolytic> this happened after updating from 8 to 10
[03:25] <Kevin`> another vitcim of defaulting to fb mode ^
[03:25] <Kevin`> ;)
[03:26] <hmw> uLinux: you wonder, why your freshly formatted disk hase ext4? you didnt partition manually, it seems
[03:26] <Kevin`> anxiolytic: it probably won't happen if you boot with init=/bin/sh, although you will of course have limited resources available at the start
[03:26] <shugart> Kevin`: yeah, this is what I deserve for lazily coming in on a saturday night to do work
[03:26] <Lxndr> Websites visited on Firefox do not give me any sound. Same websites visited in Chrome DO give me sound. How can I make firefox give me sound? What troubleshooting can I do?
[03:26] <omniel> Does anyone know how to fix an upside down webcam?  I have searched the forums and couldn't find a solution.
[03:26] <GraphicRecursion> ahhh hmw: finally got a shell ^_^ whats the text editor in busy box? is there one?
[03:26] <anxiolytic> Kevin`: alright, trying
[03:26] <PiliStorm> join ubuntu
[03:27] <uLinux> hmw: i installed automatically
[03:27] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: uhm, i am not good for busybox questions really. try vi, nano, pico
[03:27] <uLinux> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0d82mvYQjM why this guy makes a /data partition
[03:27] <uLinux> and not for /home
[03:27] <mgolisch> no idea? maybe to store data?
[03:27] <uLinux> yeah but data is stores at /home
[03:27] <Kevin`> uLinux: because he's not you. I personally usually have a seperate /files partition (well, volume)
[03:28] <hmw> uLinux: My home has many hidden directories. I don't like programs to mess with my own data. I really want _my own "home"_ therefore i use another partition for the files, that are really mine and not just some settings from programs
[03:28] <mgolisch> i do the same for data shared between all users
[03:28] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: they got nano! yeah getting the busy box shell is fine with me I just needed to make sure that option got added to the boot parameters or else my HDD gets powered off
[03:28] <hmw> uLinux: my "collection" partition is NTFS for obvious reasons, btw. (multiboot)
[03:29] <flowbee___a> is there a way to easily see all the vidoes i downloaded (other than the file system)
[03:30] <uLinux> hmw: so if i wanted to install one more OS i would resize my /home to have space
[03:30] <cloversg> I would like to install ubuntu-server on a flash-drive, can anyone point me to any site that does this, specifically, would like minimal writes to the drive except for configs
[03:30] <uLinux> but you use your "collection"
[03:30] <uLinux> :p
[03:31] <Rixxy> Hey guys, does anybody here know much about Miro?
[03:31] <trojan_spike> g-part / disk utility not able to resize NTFS??
[03:31] <Merritt> Updates seem to have frozen setting up a new kernel. Can anyone tell me the safe way to deal with this? Just kill it and restart updates, or..? http://picpaste.com/pics/update-fail-iBPioYNV.1284845951.png Thanks!
[03:31] <uLinux> so for /home is primary partition for swap is logical
[03:32] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: whats the mount command?
[03:32] <IdleOne> Merritt: how long has it been sitting?
[03:32] <anxiolytic> Kevin`: init=/bin/sh gives me a black screen, no kb response
[03:32] <mgolisch> trojan_spike: gparted should be able to do it
[03:32] <Merritt> IdleOne: 14 hours now
[03:32] <uLinux> and /home is logical?
[03:32] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: mount <device> <mount point> --- e.g.  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[03:32] <IdleOne> Merritt: haha, yeah kill it
[03:32] <trojan_spike> nah,, ive tried :(
[03:32] <Merritt> IdleOne: Then apt-get update apt-get upgrade?
[03:32] <Camus> I have an NTFS usb hard drive and one particular directory will not open (Input/output error). Is there a way to retrieve the files from this directory (which appears from the ls command)
[03:32] <IdleOne> Merritt: yup.
[03:33] <Merritt> IdleOne: Thanks :)
[03:33] <trojan_spike> Merritt, thats installing.. it might need some user input
[03:33] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: you should find a tutorial on how to repair GRUB2 - you will have to edit a file and then run update-grub to let it create the boot menu entries with your new kernel parameter
[03:33] <Merritt> trojan_spike: Can't find a window asking for anything
[03:33] <Coronade> :D
[03:33] <uLinux> hmw: some ppl use logical other use primary.. im confused as hell
[03:33] <Coronade> Good evening.
[03:33] <uLinux> ei Coronade
[03:34] <trojan_spike> kk,, then jus close and run again.. dont reboot until updates tho
[03:34] <mgolisch> uLinux: logical partitions are used if you need more than 4 partitions
[03:34] <Coronade> \o/
[03:34] <Rixxy> Is it possible to add youtube subscriptions to Miro?
[03:34] <IdleOne> trojan_spike: from the pic he posted it looks stuck at unpacking
[03:34] <Coronade> AAArrrghhhh ok i have to re-burn Ubuntu..
[03:34] <Coronade> Don't ask, it's embarassing why.
[03:34] <hmw> uLinux: there are only 4 primary partitions. If you never need more than that, it is ok to make all primary. But, if you then decide to add a 5th partition, you'd need to DELETE one in order to create extended partitions. Using extended partitions from the beginning is the safe approach.
[03:34] <avis> I am privately sharing with you a url that I was hoping you could look over.  I have been corresponding with the Governor of California and the Whitehouse regarding this issue.  It breaks my heart but every attorney I have ever seen has had little good to say, and was unwilling to take my case, which I find inconceivable.
[03:34] <avis> If you were to know the anger and outrage that they caused me it manifested itself in a very twisted and disheartening way.  My spirits are well and positive my health is good but I am angry that they would turn their back on me, I'm angry that I was intimidated into destroying evidence which I actually have, it is further disheartening that after I was attacked I was treated by law enforcement like trash en route to the doctor, and It was plainl
[03:34] <avis> y apparent to me that the doctor was being bribed, no diagnosis, he didn't even want to give me medication.  It was only by the good hand of Dr. John Hoang that we were able to lasso things under control.
[03:34] <trojan_spike> installing..
[03:34] <Lxndr> When I visit a website and try to make sound in Chrome, in my Sound Preferences (under the Applications tab) I see "ALSA plug-in [chrome]". When I try the same thing in Firefox, I get a flickering entry that says "ALSA plug-in [plugin-container]". I imagine since it flickers, that means the program is TRYING to make sound, but nothing is happening. What can I do  to stop this flickering?
[03:34] <avis> I would like to ask that our communication be through email only as my mother is very sensitive and wouldn't like me speaking to you or another officer at all (again, more fuel to their fire).
[03:34] <avis> the url is here:
[03:34] <FloodBot3> avis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:35] <uLinux> flood detected
[03:35] <hmw> ..."Floodbot munches"
[03:35] <Kevin`> anxiolytic: check if you are able to enter commands anyway. the console could just be poorly set up at this point
[03:36] <Merritt> Hmm, cannot get lock on dpkg, but I can't find the app using it xD
[03:36] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[03:36] <Coronade> umm
[03:36] <LinuxGuy2009> Does wget support the use of wildcards like *i386.deb? or do I have to specify an exact file name?
[03:36] <Coronade> nero is complaining about my Ubuntu image
[03:37] <Coronade> if you don't remember me, i'm the guy with a fake ubuntu distro on my laptop(craptop)
[03:37] <cloversg> has anyone here run ubuntu-server from a flash-drive with persistent modes?
[03:37] <uLinux> hmw: I deleted Windows partition but then I couldn't resize /home because it was an extended partition or something
[03:37] <hmw> LinuxGuy2009: man wget - check the section --no-glob
[03:37] <trojan_spike> Coronade, image-burn / xp CD-burner
[03:37] <LinuxGuy2009> hmw: k thank you
[03:37] <Coronade> "The entered block size does not correspond to the image lengths. The block size may be wrong.  Do you want to correct the value or ignore the problem?" Y/N?
[03:37] <Kevin`> LinuxGuy2009: you can use that if you are doing recursive downloading, but http itself doesn't support that.. it's a special use
[03:37] <uLinux> so I'll just make primary partitions and logical partion for swap i guess
[03:38] <LinuxGuy2009> Kevin`: ok
[03:38] <hmw> uLinux: you need to resize the extended partition itself (which is stored as one of the 4 primary partisions) first, then you can resize the "logical volume"
[03:38] <IdleOne> Coronade: correct the block size
[03:38] <mgolisch> or just use lvm..
[03:38] <mgolisch> :)
[03:38] <trojan_spike> Coronade, dout there would be an or in that sentence
[03:39] <uLinux> hmw: check this image pls http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8103/selection001.png
[03:39] <hmw> uLinux: an extended partition is a special "primary" partition, which is made to hold (contain) logical volumes. you probably tried to only resize the LV itself - therefore there was no space in the extended partition
[03:39] <uLinux> thats how it is right now
[03:39] <mgolisch> or use GUID disklabel and forget about all of mbr/dos disklabels limitations
[03:39] <Coronade> I'm confused now.
[03:39] <Coronade> Type of Image: <options are "Data Mode 1" "Data Mode 2", audio
[03:39] <hmw> uLinux: as i said, first change sda2
[03:39] <anxiolytic> I can't get into X. the log seems OK. I'm in a root shell using an old recovery kernel. not sure what to do..
[03:39] <Coronade> and a check box for "raw data"
[03:40] <Kevin`> uLinux: i'd use lvm in either case, and guid for a non-windows system (windows supports it, but i'm not sure how well)
[03:41] <uLinux> after i delete NTFS http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/189/selection001lq.png
[03:41] <Coronade> Uhhh
[03:41] <Coronade> I can't burn this image on to a DVD+R ?
[03:42] <uLinux> Kevin`: i never did this stuff before
[03:42] <trojan_spike> How do i go about getting an image of my set up now,, for re-installing??
[03:42] <uLinux> but if I could fix it without reinstalling again would be great
[03:42] <hmw> uLinux: it is a good idea to plan ahead, when it comes to partitioning. Perhaps you want to re-do the install.
[03:42] <juk> hi, if I i put my script in /etc/init.d/, as system up, will it get `start` arg
[03:42] <uLinux> hmw: it's better i think
[03:43] <Merritt> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? --- anyone tell me how to figure out which app is the culprit? ps x didn't enlighten me.
[03:43] <hmw> uLinux: i hope you are not trying to change partitions while you are using them (=have booted from them)?
[03:43] <uLinux> first i need to do backups
[03:43] <hmw> uLinux: thats always true.
[03:43] <Flannel> Merritt: Are you using sudo to run that command?
[03:43] <uLinux> no hmw i took tthose screenshots using livecd
[03:43] <chelz> uLinux: resize /dev/sda5 so it's really small, then copy it out of the extended partition
[03:43] <chelz> actually, just delete swap and remake it
[03:44] <hmw> uLinux: then you should be able to achieve your goal. You cannot make the logical volume bigger than the extended partition, where it resides in. got it?
[03:44] <Merritt> Flannel: yeah
[03:44] <Kevin`> btw, the ubuntu (and probably debian) installer seems to have a bug if you tell it to format a full disk, it stalls because of the "Proceed anyway? (y,n)" message
[03:44] <Merritt> er, no
[03:44] <Merritt> not ps x
[03:44] <Kevin`> only for some disk types, of course
[03:44] <uLinux> chelz: i hace data on sda5
[03:44] <Lxndr> When I visit a website and try to make sound in Chrome, in my Sound Preferences (under the Applications tab) I see "ALSA plug-in [chrome]". When I try the same thing in Firefox, I get a flickering entry that says "ALSA plug-in [plugin-container]". I imagine since it flickers, that means the program is TRYING to make sound, but nothing is happening. What can I do  to stop this flickering and get sound?
[03:44] <uLinux> have
[03:45] <chelz> Kevin`: it would be good to confirm if that's a bug or not
[03:45] <rww> Merritt: sudo cat /var/lib/dpkg/lock should give you the PID of the process that set the lock, I think
[03:45] <uLinux> i cant resize it
[03:45] <Kevin`> chelz: it doesn't show the message on the screen anywhere, it just hangs at "creating filesystem"
[03:45] <chelz> Kevin`: sure it's not still working?
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[03:45] <Merritt> rww: nope
[03:45] <hmw> uLinux: theoretically you should be able to resize, but you could copy the data to the NTFS partition perhaps?
[03:45] <Flannel> Merritt: Alright.  Some things to look for in ps aux are: update-manager, synaptic, dpkg, apt (this will cover aptitude, apt-get, etc), software (for software-center)
[03:45] <Coronade> I might as well start working for the Ubuntu people.
[03:45] <Kevin`> chelz: it's waiting for the user to say y/n, but they can't, because it's being done by a script, not the user
[03:46] <uLinux> hmw: I have hundreds of gb in data
[03:46] <chelz> uLinux: you see the yellow portion of the disk? that's the amount of the partition that's full of data. you can resize it to the point where the entire partition is just about yellow
[03:46] <uLinux> no chance
[03:46] <jason> nick jfullernz
[03:46] <Coronade> I can code  for beer.
[03:46] <synackfin> what arguments do I need for `deboostrap` to install 10.04 Server?
[03:46] <jfullernz> lol sorry
[03:46] <hmw> uLinux: oops.
[03:46] <Kevin`> chelz: I left it for quite a while, there's no cpu or io load. same command manually gives that.
[03:46] <hmw> uLinux: i thought you were using a fresh disk, btw. Resizing will take a long time with 800GB
[03:46] <uLinux> yeah
[03:46] <chelz> Kevin`: huh, that might be a bug
[03:47] <Coronade> pheh, you think the ubuntu ppl wouldn't hire meh?
[03:47] <uLinux> hmw: what im planning is to do backup of all the data, and then reinstall everything BUt correctly using manual partitioning
[03:47] <rww> Coronade: I'm sure #ubuntu-offtopic would be more inclined to tell you.
[03:47] <hmw> uLinux: your sda5 is not full. you could shrink it in order to make space
[03:47] <chelz> uLinux: you can do guided partitioning, just say "use entire disk"
[03:47] <Coronade> ubuntu CD 96%
[03:48] <chelz> uLinux: you really don't have toe reinstall though, you can just copy your partitions around
[03:48] <hmw> uLinux: better do a backup and make a clean install :))
[03:48] <uLinux> yes hmw but with a separate /home
[03:48] <Coronade> verifying...
[03:49] <chelz> uLinux: you can move your home to a new partition from your current install if you want
[03:49] <uLinux> I have 67% of disk left
[03:50] <Merritt> Flannel: I have a line that reads: root     29389  0.0  2.4  88396 74868 ?        Ds   13:10   0:01 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 38 --unpack --auto-deconfigure /var/cache/apt/archives/google-chrome-stable .. however I can't seem to kill it
[03:50] <uLinux> the thing IS i want those 30gb back :P
[03:50] <uLinux> but i see it's too complicated for me to get them backk
[03:51] <uLinux> resize copy and stuff better to reinstall i think
[03:51] <Coronade> hey i should make _my_ irc client advertise in quit messages too!
[03:51] <hmw> uLinux: in your case i'd delete the swap, then shrink sda5 a bit and use the new space. You can access your NTFS partition from Ubuntu, so you dont _need_ a big /home
[03:51] <ranthi> exit
[03:51] <ranthi> quit
[03:51] <Coronade> oh look, mind control! ->
[03:51] <rww> ranthi: /quit
[03:51] <Coronade> D:
[03:51] <Blue1Away> hmw: there's no place like /home.  no wait that was home.
[03:51] <Coronade> ok, verification done, less darth micro$oft more Ubuntu.
[03:51] <Coronade> brb
[03:52] <uLinux> hmw: I want a BIG /home
[03:52] <hmw> uLinux: your /home should be big enough for downloading stuff of course. some 10 GB or so should suffice if you wannt to keep it small
[03:52] <uLinux> that's where i put all the stuff
[03:52] <uLinux> ;)
[03:52] <hmw> uLinux: you cant access it from windows
[03:52] <juk> why my daemon in /etc/init.d isn't gets passed start argument???
[03:52] <uLinux> dude i deleted windows
[03:52] <uLinux> i dont want it
[03:52] <hmw> uhm. okok
[03:52] <Blue1> :-)
[03:53] <hmw> uLinux: then you will have to copy your stuff around...
[03:53] <chelz> uLinux: boot to a livecd, backup the data you want to keep, then go a resinstall with guided partitioning using the entire disk
[03:53] <uLinux> chelz: i dont want the automatic thing
[03:54] <uLinux> because i want a separae /home get it? so i can reinstall ubuntu or change distro later
[03:54] <haytham-med> hi guys, how do i cd to a hidden directory?
[03:54] <hmw> juk: don't let yourself get fooled by the init-v system... it is only there for backwards compatibilty and it doesnt fully work as one might expect - you cant boot into a runlevel anymore, for example.
[03:54] <uLinux> chelz: im thinking of the future :P
[03:54] <kieppie-mob> hi guys. I'm setting up a media center on a ultra-skinny setup (& have already set one up in the past before it went up in smoke), & need to know ho I can start various systems in X on various TTY's
[03:54] <Kevin`> haytham-med: nothing special required
[03:55] <chelz> uLinux: you can resize your stuff anytime, but ok
[03:55] <kieppie-mob> so F7 is enna, f8 is moovida & f9 is xmbc
[03:55] <Kevin`> kieppie-mob: starting multiple X sessions on different ttys would be a waste of memory, why not use 'desktops' or similar
[03:55] <kieppie-mob> running consecutively
[03:55] <uLinux> yes but i have 30gb of unused disk
[03:55] <uLinux> and a big swap and if i mess around i could lose the data
[03:56] <uLinux> cause im noob :P
[03:56] <juk> hmw: I didn't get it
[03:56] <kieppie-mob> Hi Kevin; it's not so much a wast if there's no full desktop under it, & I want to do it because it's frikkin cool
[03:56] <hmw> juk: i was guessing. perhaps the "almost-existing" sys-v-init is not working properly. What exactly were you trying to do?
[03:57] <haytham-med> Kevin`: ok thx
[03:57] <hmw> juk: we have another boot meachanism now... i think its "kickstart"
[03:57] <juk> hmw: isn't it like all scripts under init.d getting start arg as system up?
[03:57] <uLinux> so I will use 15GB (Primary) for / 2gb?(Logical) for swap and the rest for /home (Primary)
[03:57] <kieppie-mob> Kevin: I've set up such a system in the past & it worked really well, but then the HDD busted before I could backup the config
[03:58] <haytham-med> i want to exclude hidden files from the find command, how to do that?
[03:58] <kieppie-mob> Kevin: & I'm unable to locate the guide that got me there
[03:58] <hmw> uLinux: you can put everything in the extended partition, too.
[03:58] <Kevin`> kieppie-mob: I know it's possible, it's just not really a good way to do it.
[03:59] <Kevin`> kieppie-mob: anyway, if you want to start X and apps manually you can just specify a different display number, like X :1&; DISPLAY=:1 xterm
[03:59] <uLinux> hmw: but then i dont have a separate /home
[03:59] <Merritt> Interesting. sudo kill -9 29389 .. ps aux.. 29389 still there. heh?
[03:59] <hmw> uLinux: sure you would have... like sda5 = /   sda6 = swap  sda7 = /home
[04:00] <kieppie-mob>  Kevin`: thanks. where to I specify that? got a guide somewhere?
[04:00] <Kevin`> Merritt: it could be stalled in kernel code, like reading from a disk that has stopped functioning
[04:00] <hmw> uLinux: sda5 is a logical volume _within_ the extended partition (which will be sda1 in my example)
[04:00] <hmw> uLinux: you can only have one extended partition
[04:00] <Kevin`> kieppie-mob: rc.local perhaps?
[04:00] <Merritt> Kevin`: It's from a failed update. Trying to kill it so I can re-run the update. :/
[04:00] <hmw> uLinux: which can contain many logical volumes
[04:00] <kieppie-mob> sweet, dude. thnx
[04:01] <sarah> hii.
[04:01] <uLinux> hmw: but isnt extented partition 'bad'?
[04:01] <Kevin`> Merritt: there has to be some abnormal reason why it's stopped though, you'd be able to kill it normally
[04:01] <sebsebseb> sarah: hi
[04:01] <Merritt> Kevin`: The update freezing and me killing the update window isn't abnormal? =)
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Guest97701 hi
[04:02] <hmw> uLinux: nah.
[04:02] <Kevin`> Merritt: no, it's not. the freezing is probably related to whatever went wrong though.
[04:02] <hmw> uLinux: only Windows might have trouble booting from an extended.
[04:02] <mobasher> how do configure itunes on ubuntu 9.04 ??
[04:02] <Merritt> Kevin`: Mmmh. Maybe my dying hdd is finally catching up to me..
[04:04] <sebsebseb> mobasher: Itunes  doesn't really work on other OS's except for Mac OS X and Windows,  since Apple don't care about making for them
[04:04] <ziposk> mobasher: try use a native music player
[04:04] <sebsebseb> mobasher: if you really want it though, with enough RAM and such you could try a Windows virtual machine
[04:04] <Kevin`> it might work with wine, but it's really not worth it
[04:04] <uLinux> sebsebseb: I works in Wine..
[04:04] <sebsebseb> Kevin`:  it won't work properly with Wine if at all
[04:05] <uLinux> i've seen videos
[04:05] <sebsebseb> uLinux: maybe after a load of configuring,  which would be above the average usr
[04:05] <uLinux> and seems to work fine
[04:05] <mobasher> sebsebseb=}} hmm..yea i was trying the wine but was not working just quicktime got install no itunes..
[04:05] <uLinux> but isnt banshee wathever
[04:05] <uLinux> an alternative
[04:05] <uLinux> ?
[04:05] <mobasher> ziposk=}} i was thinking of using banshee and see if that helps some how..wanted to upload some stuff on new iphon4
[04:05] <sebsebseb> uLinux: for old Ipods as far as I know yes
[04:06] <Kevin`> it may be easier all-around to just enable ssh on the iphone and scp files to/from it over wifi
[04:06] <uLinux> hmw: primary = no more than 4 partitions .. right
[04:06] <Kevin`> no more than 3 if you also have extended
[04:07] <mobasher> Kevin`=}} hmmm...new on iphone..is there ssh installed iphone...or i have to download a app
[04:07] <uLinux> hmm need to figure out what extended means lol
[04:07] <soupdejour> I have an NTFS usb hard drive and one particular directory will not open (Input/output error). Is there a way to retrieve the files from this directory?
[04:08] <Kevin`> mobasher: I think it's installed by default, or at least really easy to get. I remember it working out of the box after jailbreak etc
[04:08] <juk> how to create upstart jobs?
[04:08] <hmw> uLinux: a long time ago, when programmers struggled to save single bytes, they designed partition tables for max 4 partitions. Some day later, they saw, that 4 partitions is not enough, so they invented a special kind of partition entry, called "extended". Such an extended partition is just a pointer to another, more modern "additional" partition table, which can hold a lot more partitions (23 i guess). So there are the old 4 primaries and 
[04:09] <mobasher> Kevin`=}} lol yea jailbreak is another one i am thinking about..lol..do u know if it can be done on iphone 4 yet ?
[04:09] <Kevin`> mobasher: i'm not the one to ask, I don't have one ;)
[04:10] <JackStonewall> mobasher:  are you just trying to move files between Ubuntu and your iPhone?  Just plugging in my non-jailbroken iPhone 3GS was all I needed to do to pull that off.
[04:10] <mobasher> Kevin`=}} hehee..no worries mate i'll figure it out...just get forget about MS ..keeps calling me back :)
[04:10] <mobasher> JackStonewall=}} well i can't...it's not recognizign the USB driver ..guess i'm older ubuntu 9.04
[04:11] <eppa> hey, is it possible to install hardware drivers from the install CD after booting a fresh install?
[04:11] <mobasher> JackStonewall=}} just can move photos over that's it
[04:11] <eppa> the wizard finds my wireless driver automatically when I boot the CD, but the install obviously doesn't have the driver installed :)
[04:11] <Kevin`> eppa: might be, depending what kernel got installed, but all the drivers on the cd SHOULD be present on the system afaik
[04:12] <JackStonewall> mobasher:  you could always give an Ubuntu 10.04 liveCD boot a shot and see if that's any better.
[04:12] <eppa> Kevin`: wireless driver doesn't work automatically from the CD boot unless I use the 'Hardware Drivers' app from the Administration menu
[04:12] <Kevin`> eppa: most important step, find out what card+chipset it is and what driver was working
[04:12] <mobasher> JackStonewall=}} my lovely PC is old school the video drivers don't like 10.04 :)
[04:12] <eppa> Kevin`: broadcom, MacBook white
[04:12] <Kevin`> eppa: it might just be something stupid like installing firmware for the driver
[04:12] <Blue1> mobasher: what chipset?
[04:13] <Kevin`> (check dmesg)
[04:13] <eppa> Kevin`: OK will do
[04:13] <mobasher> it's ATI x300 card...all i can go up to is 9.04 ...
[04:13] <uLinux> hmw: so extended partition is the best out there
[04:13] <uLinux> lol
[04:13] <hmw> uLinux: they are not better than primaries. just extended. :)
[04:13] <Blue1> mobasher: i had problems with an old intel 82815 chipset...
[04:13] <Viking667> hahahahaha.
[04:13] <Kevin`> uLinux: no, gpt is. (or lvm, as a different method)
[04:13] <uLinux> yeah but they have more advantages
[04:14] <uLinux> up to 23 partitions
[04:14] <Viking667> Wife has a 865 - it gets 2450-ish frames per seconds.
[04:14] <uLinux> (you guess0
[04:14] <xorwhy> 23 Primary partitions?
[04:14] <Viking667> my Radeon 9550 gets nearly 4900
[04:14] <Viking667> xorwhy: ugh.
[04:14] <mobasher> Blue1=}} it's cool man...i have no regrets...i'm happy with 9.04 as well...i get my hands dirty with some shell scripts which i like and that's about it :)
[04:14] <uLinux> lol
[04:14] <eppa> Kevin`: tell you what I'll do instead; 'Hardware Drivers' app found it on the CD, so will just hook up ethernet and run the app again and hope it downloads it :)
[04:14] <hmw> uLinux: the only "bad" thing that could happen to you is a situation, where you have created 4 primary partitions and then decide to add a 5th partition. In this case, one of the 4 primary partitions would have to be deleted and replaced by that "extended" entry in order to get more partitions.
[04:14] <Kevin`> uLinux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[04:15] <Viking667> There's a limit to how many original partitions you could have, I've no idea how EFI plays with that
[04:15] <hmw> thank you Kevin`
[04:15] <Blue1> getting this out of my nvidia card:  6164 frames in 5.0 seconds
[04:15] <uLinux> I got it hmw (you told me that before too :p)
[04:15] <Viking667> oops - by original partitions, I mean DOS partitions (not Amiga, Mac OS X, or whatever)
[04:15] <uLinux> so it's nicer to use extended
[04:15] <eppa> Viking667: you have an Amiga partition?!
[04:15] <eppa> :)
[04:15] <Viking667> just that most OSes can't boot out of an extended without a boot manager to help out
[04:16] <uLinux> because i dont know if someday i will want more than 4 primary partitions
[04:16] <Viking667> eppa: I can read them, and yes. Just not on my current IDE devices.
[04:16] <hmw> uLinux: usually I use sda1 for the Ubuntu base system, sda2 will become a backup copy of sda1, sda3 is swap and /home will be sda5, but that's really a matter of taste
[04:16] <Viking667> ... means I have to turn on Amiga partition support in the kernel
[04:16] <Blue1> uLinux: i have 1 windows part/1 swap part/one root part, and one /home part
[04:16] <uLinux> hmw: why do you make backup of file system
[04:17] <Viking667> I think I have anything that has to be booted off as primary, everything else _can_ be extended.
[04:17] <uLinux> and why there is not sda4
[04:17] <hmw> uLinux: i make a separate entry in my grub menu that lets me boot into the other ("mirror") system in case i mess up my original one. I can also copy sda2 back to sda1 if i want to.
[04:17] <uLinux> *no
[04:17] <uLinux> oh
[04:17] <Viking667> hmw: hmm. rescue, huh?
[04:17] <hmw> yeah
[04:18] <uLinux> hmw: but how do you make the backup?!
[04:18] <Blue1> uLinux: my sda4 is my /home part
[04:18] <hmw> uLinux: with dd
[04:18] <Viking667> I had thought of doing a specific rescue partition with something like UBCD piped to disk or grml
[04:18] <uLinux> what is that
[04:18] <hmw> diskdupe or something
[04:18] <uLinux> that's too leet
[04:18] <Viking667> dd is a very dangerous (but useful( tool
[04:18] <hmw> dd can clone disks or partitions
[04:18] <krogers0001> how is  everyone doing?
[04:18] <Blue1> hmw: destory disc
[04:18] <hmw> LOL
[04:18] <Viking667> duplicate data ?
[04:19] <Viking667> not sure if anyone really knows what dd stands for outside of the man page or web references
[04:19] <Blue1> hmw: you can copy /dev/zero to a partition
[04:19] <uLinux> so hmw what do you advice me to do when installing Ubuntu
[04:19] <hmw> Blue1: i prefer to move my data to /dev/null *grin*
[04:19] <ranthi> any way to find all running programs that are using network resources?
[04:19] <uLinux> that primary logical stuff
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[04:20]  * Viking667 blinks
[04:20] <Blue1> okay well that was gay
[04:20] <Lxndr> btw, just an update: I did everything in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6589810 and I have Firefox sound now. Might be worth keeping in mind for other sound issues.
[04:20] <hmw> uLinux: i suggest a relaxed approach. Think how much you need for what and start with the primaries. sda1, 2, 3. Make sda4 the extended partition, which then holds possible additional partitions sda5++
[04:20] <rwq> Blue1: please don't use "gay" as a pejorative.
[04:20] <Blue1> rwq: ok
[04:20] <user_> Hi, could someone help me out with my boot problems?
[04:20] <hmw> !ask | user
[04:20] <lintin> ?
[04:20] <juk> how to echo in stderr
[04:21] <mobasher> user_=}} what's the issue ?
[04:21] <KindOne> can someone tell me if i logged in cloaked or uncloaked...
[04:21] <rwq> KindOne: you joined #ubuntu cloaked
[04:21] <Kevin`> juk: echo >&2 ?
[04:21] <hmw> juk: http://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=109447627+1284866508575+28353475&threadId=108223
[04:22] <isolat3sh33p> !panel-reset
[04:22] <uLinux> hmw: i know / is primary swap is logical so how do i make /home extended
[04:22] <lintin> prop 215!
[04:22] <lintin> 0ne l0ve
[04:22] <isolat3sh33p> !reset-panel
[04:22] <juk> Kevin`: cool
[04:22] <isolat3sh33p> dammit, what's the help keyword for resetting panel?
[04:22] <Viking667> user_: you'll have to state what your problem is, I don't have any previous data from you for me to go on.
[04:23] <bastidrazor> !panels | isolat3sh33p
[04:23] <hmw> uLinux: when you come to the partitioner, you create your partitions. I dont know by heart, how it looks exactly, but it is fairly simple.
[04:23] <KindOne> rwq: thanks
[04:23] <Blue1> !pastebin | blue1
[04:23] <juk> hmw:thanks
[04:23] <isolat3sh33p> bastidrazor, thanks :D
[04:23] <hmw> uLinux: btw. if your swap "is logical", your /home will be too. Both will be IN an extended partition. Just to be precise
[04:24] <user_> Hey, I've been getting this error message at boot-up: "Problem with configuration server. Usr/lib/libconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256
[04:24] <Blue1> anyone good with scripting?  tell me why http://paste.ubuntu.com/496241/ gets a permissions error writing to the log file?
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[04:25]  * uLinux logical = extended? 
[04:25] <uLinux> wth
[04:25] <rwq> !botattack
[04:25] <haytham-med> i want to exclude hidden files from the find command, how to do that?
[04:25] <s00lm> why are we getting this message?
[04:25] <tensorpudding> Blue1: pretty sure that /var/log is not user-writable
[04:25] <Blue1> tensorpudding: it is invoked via crontab as:  5 1 * * * root sh /etc/nwaynobkup/daily.sh
[04:26] <user_> Hey, I've been getting this error message at boot-up: "Problem with configuration server. Usr/lib/libconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256     . It blanks out completely when I try to log in. Could someone please help me out? Cheers
[04:26] <tensorpudding> Blue1: it's not proper to specify a script with /bin/bash but run it with sh
[04:26] <mobasher> how do you search for a package using apt-get ??
[04:26] <IdleOne> mobasher: apt-cache search
[04:26] <Blue1> tensorpudding: so how do I fix it?
[04:27] <mobasher> IdleOne=}} thank u sir :)
[04:27] <tensorpudding> Blue1: use /bin/sh instead? or call it using bash
[04:27] <hmw> uLinux: no. Extended is that "pointer" to the "additional partition table". It _contains_ logical partitions. The 4 primary partitions are stored in the partition table of the MBR (Master Boot Record, that is the very first sector of your disk, which can only hold 4 "primary" partitions). An extended partition is stored somewhere in your disk and has also a table, but that can contain more. So logical is IN an extended.
[04:27] <Blue1> tensorpudding: okay I can try that.
[04:27] <JoeSomebody> hi, in lucid, is there a way to move the min, max and close buttons back to the top right corner?
[04:27] <mwh05> hey guys, setting up exim4 on 10.04 to send mail from some local applications. I want it to authenticate through a user account so I followed this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Exim4#SMTP Authentication but it seems to allow emails from localhost with bad credentials, so not verifying.
[04:28] <TheoryDesigns> hello im running ubuntu studio 10.04 how do i restart x-server to load the video driver in konsole???
[04:28] <hmw> uLinux: you can see that on the screen shot you sent me earlier - all partitions with numbers sda5 or higher are IN the extended sda2.
[04:28] <tensorpudding> Blue1: also i think maybe there shouldn't be a space between &> and the log, but I'm not sure
[04:29] <hmw> http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8103/selection001.png - the logical partitions are drawn indented to indicate the situation.
[04:29] <mdel> JoeSomebody: just change to a different theme
[04:29] <mdel> JoeSomebody: I suggest trying one from the Bisigi project
[04:29] <mdel> I like wildshine, myself
[04:29] <Blue1> tensorpudding: I can change that too
[04:30] <TheoryDesigns> how do i restart x-server in konsole??
[04:30] <hmw> TheoryDesigns: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:30] <juk> Kevin`, hmw: i wrote script `pisof` which greps $1 of ps -e | awk $1 and $4 to stderr, coz pidof sometimes not working properly
[04:30] <JoeSomebody> ok thanks
[04:31] <uLinux> hmw: so swap and /home are logical
[04:31] <uLinux> is primary
[04:31] <hmw> uLinux:  in that screenshot, yes.
[04:31] <uLinux> and thats how i should install?
[04:31] <at05gt> is there a way to change the size of a partition if it still has files in it? or do i need to format and then repartition?
[04:32] <hmw> uLinux: my point is, that you should not consume all 4 primaries for data, in case you want to add more partitions later. so basically - yes.
[04:32] <Kevin`> at05gt: gparted can do that in many cases. for expanding you can use even less complex tools in many cases.
[04:32] <hmw> at05gt: you can resize with data. of course, the disk must not be in use, so you need a live cd probably.
[04:32] <user_>  Hey, I've been getting this error message at boot-up: "Problem with configuration server. Usr/lib/libconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256     . It blanks out completely when I try to log in. Could someone please help me out? Cheers
[04:33] <Kevin`> hmw: you can expand while in use
[04:33] <uLinux> eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'  but if I do eject cdrom1 it works
[04:33] <hmw> Kevin`: not while they are mounted
[04:33] <Kevin`> hmw: try it
[04:33] <at05gt> well heres the specific issue, i cant get wine to run properly, so im gonna partition off 100 gigs of my large drive and reinstall windows for the specific purpose of playing my windows based games, but the drive has 1 large partition on it so id need to resize that part and then make a new part
[04:33] <mwh05> Refined question. I'm running exim4 with saslauthd and I can send emails from a localhost application without giving it credentials. What gives?
[04:34] <at05gt> can gparted do that?
[04:34] <root_ninja> doe wireless cards with the RTL8187L chip require installation of a modified driver for packet injection  and to view power levels? the aircrack-ng wiki says it does however it appears to be outdated.
[04:34] <hmw> at05gt: yes
[04:34] <at05gt> ok thank you
[04:34] <TheoryDesigns> hey
[04:34] <TheoryDesigns> thank you
[04:34] <git__> anyone here work with sheepdog?
[04:34] <TheoryDesigns> but it that didnt load the x-server driver
[04:34] <TheoryDesigns> it just restarted the kde desktop
[04:34] <TheoryDesigns> how do i load a x-driver
[04:34] <TheoryDesigns> to config
[04:35] <frobisher> JoeSomebody:Yes there is
[04:35] <TheoryDesigns> how do i load a x-server driver to config with x-server config??
[04:35] <JoeSomebody> ?
[04:35] <hmw> at05gt: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 - you will have to restore grub after windows install
[04:35] <Kevin`> hmw: http://pastebin.com/GexMrbez
[04:36] <hmw> Kevin`: i think with LVM it is a different story
[04:37] <Kevin`> hmw: you can do it with other types of storage too, provided you can get it to become resized
[04:37] <Blue1> tensorpudding: no joy
[04:37] <hmw> Kevin`: i am not using LVM, so i cant resize while mounted
[04:37] <at05gt> hmw: the linux install is on a different drive from windows
[04:37] <Kevin`> i'd demonstrate with my desktop here (not using lvm) but then i'd have wasted space
[04:37] <at05gt> hmw: i did that on purpose
[04:37] <frobisher> gcontro-2--type string --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout "menu:maximize,minimize
[04:37] <hmw> Kevin`:  i just checked gparted, "resize" is grayed out while mounted
[04:38] <hmw> at05gt: i am not sure, windows might still kill grub, but perhaps i am mistaken in this case.
[04:38] <uLinux> hmw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhnLk3gviWY at 3.10
[04:38] <at05gt> hmw: your guess is as good as mine lol
[04:38] <JoeSomebody> frobisher is it easy? got a link? :)
[04:38] <Kevin`> hmw: probably because of the type of partition. you COULD resize it in the partition table, reboot, then resize the filesystem (while it's in use) though
[04:38] <juk> Kevin`, hmw: I whant use script to kill `pisof foo` and along with pid I whant it to print filenames in background, how would I do it???
[04:39] <hmw> Kevin`: wow...!?
[04:39] <frobisher> IT starts gcontrol ,not gcontro
[04:39] <Kevin`> hmw: ?
[04:39] <hmw> i wasnt aware of this possibility. i always thought, it cant be done...
[04:39] <frobisher> Yes <I found it in ask.
[04:39] <hmw> otoh, resizing a live file system sounds like a bad idea to me.
[04:39] <Beagle6> hello i'm having trouble getting ubuntu on beagle. can anyone help?
[04:39] <Kevin`> hmw: anyway, just serves to indicate use lvm cuz it's awesome ;)
[04:40] <hmw> indeed. another thing, i need to check out. i am a lazy programmer.
[04:40] <at05gt> so i should resize a partiton that has files on it?
[04:40] <at05gt> shouldnt*
[04:41] <hmw> at05gt: no, we were talking about something else: resizing, while the files are "being used" so to say.
[04:41] <frobisher> I just typyed in :how do you change the buttons from left to right in Ubuntu 10.4
[04:41] <at05gt> ahh
[04:41] <step21> at05gt: not while running from it. and even then theres always a risk
[04:41] <hmw> at05gt: you can relatively safely resize your partition, but crashes are always possible. do backup. i cant stop repeating this mantra.
[04:41] <at05gt> its a media drive only has music and videos on it
[04:42] <at05gt> my OS is on a seperate drive
[04:42] <jordan__> quick question.. does anyone know how to denote that i want a specific program to update from a specific repository even when another repository may have newer versions?
[04:42] <frobisher> Joe Somebody: I did it before and then changed it back.
[04:43] <at05gt> how many MiB is a gig?
[04:43] <kapcom01> hello can someone help with git? thanks
[04:43] <Beagle6> Can anyone help on getting ubuntu running on beagle?
[04:43] <at05gt> err 100 gigs
[04:43] <at05gt> sorry
[04:43] <hmw> 1 MiB = 1024 x 1024 bytes.
[04:43] <Kevin`> at05gt: 1024 mib in a gib
[04:43] <at05gt> so that times 100
[04:43] <at05gt> kk ty
[04:44] <at05gt> sweet it worked
[04:44] <at05gt> you guys rock thanks alot
[04:45] <hmw> "One is glad to be of service."
[04:45] <CkhiKuzad> Is there a configuration tweak to make the software center start downloading the next program after the current one i am downloading has downloaded, and starts to install.
[04:45] <rww> hmw: hehe
[04:45] <MindlessTux> any idea on how to force the ubuntu installer to use a drive its not recognizing in the installer but is at the OS level?  (want to use /dev/sda but can only install to /dev/sdg)
[04:45] <at05gt> lol bicentennial man
[04:45] <at05gt> awesome movie
[04:45] <Viking667> I'm outta here, going to watch a DVD.
[04:45] <rww> The Foundation series was a better book first.
[04:46] <at05gt> it was a book first?
[04:46] <Viking667> heh.
[04:46] <Viking667> yup
[04:46] <Crash1hd> I have mysql running on my ubuntu box as well I have ssh setup and I connect through putty via ssh to my ubuntu without issue but I cant seem to connect to mysql on ubuntu can anyone assist me in this? as I am stumped (and I am sure its something simple)
[04:46] <Viking667> Ahhh, Asimov.
[04:46] <at05gt> ahh yes the 3 laws
[04:46] <at05gt> made mainstream by iRobot, cause nobody reads anymore
[04:47] <TheoryDesigns> hello
[04:47] <CkhiKuzad> !hi | TheoryDesigns
[04:47] <hmw> !hi | TheoryDesigns
[04:47] <CkhiKuzad> \o/ i did that right this time!
[04:47] <TheoryDesigns> i just installed ubuntu studio
[04:47] <TheoryDesigns> how do i config x-server
[04:47] <TheoryDesigns> via console
[04:48] <Beagle6> can anyone help on installing ubuntu?
[04:48] <at05gt> !hi | at05gt
[04:48] <CkhiKuzad> Beagle6, I might be able to, ask your question with the help
[04:48] <hmw> !ask | Beagle6
[04:48] <at05gt> lol ahh i wanted to say hi to myself
[04:48] <hmw> Beagle6: what exactly do you need?
[04:48] <Resnik> what "editor" you guy suggest me to edit iptables with?
[04:49] <CkhiKuzad> Resnik, its all your choice. those questions sometimes start holy wars.
[04:49] <kevdog> Resnik: any will do -- but its tedious -- but you could use a frontend however
[04:49] <hmw> Resnik: one usually writes a shell script that configures the netfilter thingy... you can use any text editor for that. nano is a nice lightweight command line editor.
[04:49] <TheoryDesigns> how do i config x-server in ubuntu studio 10.04??
[04:49] <CkhiKuzad> Gedit is another editor that uses GTK, it's pretty easy to use too.
[04:49] <Beagle6> I keep trying to install ubuntu but I never get the validation message on the terminal window. I just get some weird symbols. I am sure i have set up the SD card correctly. CAn ayone think of why?
[04:50] <nsdk> hello guys
[04:50] <TheoryDesigns> hello nsdk
[04:50] <TheoryDesigns> how do i config x-server in ubuntu studio 10.04??
[04:50] <CkhiKuzad> !hi | nsdk
[04:50] <CkhiKuzad> !repeat | TheoryDesigns
[04:51] <nsdk> TheoryDesigns, I don't know.
[04:51] <nsdk> I need create a network ad-hoc
[04:51] <hmw> Beagle6: are you trying to validate for the md5 checksum of the download against your flash disk?
[04:51] <CkhiKuzad> oh, by the way Resnik, it turns out that ubottu has an !editor thing:
[04:52] <Beagle6> can anyone provide a good link to follow steps to install ubuntu?
[04:52] <CkhiKuzad> !editor | Resnik
[04:52] <|Sacred|> at05gt: http://tinyurl.com/373c3q8
[04:52] <|Sacred|> woops, forgot I was scrolled up, my bad
[04:52] <xangua>  !manual | Beagle6
[04:52] <Resnik> well, i'm familar with nano, but i wonder if theres any straightfoward way to do it :)
[04:52] <CkhiKuzad> !install | Beagle6
[04:53] <CkhiKuzad> Resnik, you mean like a program that modifies them?
[04:53] <temposs> TheoryDesigns, you can configure xserver by creating the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and adding the config information that you want to it
[04:53] <DAGr8> hey can any1 help mewith this ? http://pastebin.com/8T4tmrg9  I am trying to make it 'less dirty
[04:54] <hmw> Resnik: "straight forward" sounds like typing a lot of "iptables" commands into your shell *smirks*
[04:54] <Beagle6> i mean installing ubuntu on beagleboard? Any good links?
[04:54] <Resnik> sorry yes, more like program that mods it.
[04:55] <hmw> Resnik: Firestarter is a nice GUI app that lets you configure the firewall. Similar to WinXP's integrated FW.
[04:55] <melvinram> I've just installed ubuntu server using Parallels on my OSX machine and I'm trying to figure out how to get my OSX to recognize it as a computer on the network. anyone want to help?
[04:56] <Resnik> thanks hmw
[04:57] <Resnik> is it gui only thingie?
[04:57] <Kevin`> melvinram: what service do you want available to osx? you probably want something like samba installed (which also does the windows name discovery for 'network computers')
[04:57] <hmw> Resnik: yes. i'd suggest you simply try it out.
[04:57] <melvinram> Kevin`: is that something I'd install on ubuntu or osx?
[04:57] <Kevin`> melvinram: on ubuntu
[04:57] <Kevin`> osx would already have it
[04:57] <Kevin`> fwiw
[04:58] <Resnik> well, only have terminal access to my vps, can't rly do startx can i :)
[04:58] <hmw> melvinram: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[04:58] <melvinram> Kevin`: okay. I'm trying to get my computer to see the apache service on it. Let me look at that page.
[04:58] <Kevin`> Resnik: you could start a vnc session if you really wanted to
[04:58] <Jordan_U> !ufw | Resnik
[04:58] <frobisher> JoeSomebody:did you get it changed
[04:58] <Kevin`> melvinram: if that's all you need, just enter it's ip address
[04:58] <bobstro> Resnik: can you run iptables if it's VPS?
[04:59] <Beagle6> can anyone help with installing ubuntu on beagleboard?
[04:59] <bobstro> Resnik: i can't do kernel-level stuff on mine.
[04:59] <melvinram> Kevin`: how do I figure that out?
[04:59] <Resnik> dunno, thats what i'm tryin to figure out, and i'm kinda new to all this so.. :)
[04:59] <Kevin`> melvinram: your vmm software might list it, otherwise ifconfig eth0 in ubuntu. it's also listed whenever you log in.
[05:00] <bobstro> Resnik: that was one real bummer with a vps setup. at least in my (admittedly limited) experience.
[05:00] <WillPittenger> How do I prevent Ubuntu from starting the GUI during boot?  I figure that might help me figure out why I can't log in.
[05:00] <Kevin`> ubuntu on a beagleboard, that would be fun
[05:00] <hmw> Resnik: iptables is powerful, thus a bit complicated. If you like to do some reading, you could start at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[05:01] <Resnik> ty
[05:01] <DAGr8> hey can any1 help mewith this ? http://pastebin.com/8T4tmrg9  I am trying to make it 'less dirty
[05:02] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: comment out the start on lines in /etc/init/gdm.conf. this may not be the proper way, so take what someone else says over it
[05:02] <WillPittenger> Kevin`: How?  I can't reach a text editor.
[05:02] <melvinram> Kevin`:  sweet. got it working
[05:02] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: select single user / recovery mode from the bootloader menu
[05:04] <WillPittenger> It isn't providing a menu then.
[05:04] <hmw> WillPittenger: i think a bit better way is to remove gdm from runlevel2 - ...
[05:04] <jfullernz> Hi. hoping someone can help me out with a samba problem. I have asked in #samba, and googled for answers but to no avail. I am trying to get smbd to use smbusers to map machine names to unix usernames, but for some reason it is just using nobody and not mapping. the outputs and configs are here http://pastebin.com/EHjpcXx8
[05:04] <Resnik> I wonder, what would I need to install, to get vnc working on server?
[05:05] <psycho_oreos> !vnc | Resnik
[05:05] <Kevin`> Resnik: vnc4server or equivalent plus a desktop environment/window manager
[05:05] <hmw> WillPittenger: try sysv-rc-conf
[05:05] <Kevin`> Resnik: mentioned freenx is actually quite nice
[05:05] <WillPittenger> hmw: How?  I can't get to a command prompt.
[05:05] <hmw> WillPittenger: oh.
[05:06] <hmw> WillPittenger: you will need a live cd then, i suppose
[05:06] <psycho_oreos> !cli | WillPittenger
[05:06] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: hold down shift or press escape to get the menu
[05:06] <Resnik> kk, lets see how far i will get
[05:06] <JoeSomebody> frobisher yes thanks :)
[05:06] <hmw> WillPittenger: why exactly do you need to prevend x from starting?
[05:07] <WillPittenger> hmw: So I can attempt to log in that way.
[05:07] <WillPittenger> I can't log in.
[05:07] <WillPittenger> See my posts from an hour ago.
[05:07] <hmw> WillPittenger: you can change to a console, when the login screen is shown with CTRL+ALT+F1 and login to a shell
[05:08] <bobstro> jfullernz: not exactly sure i understand what you mean about map smbusers mapping
[05:08] <Manuelbrs> i want to register
[05:08] <HowardTheDuck> hi
[05:08] <hmw> Manuelbrs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#Registration
[05:08] <WillPittenger> CTRL-ALT-F1 doesn't do anything.
[05:09] <HowardTheDuck> i am trying to use gwibber and it won't add facebok or twitter after i authenticate.  my list of broadcasts stays emtpy after i authenticate
[05:09] <bobstro> jfullernz: you want their machine name to map to a username on the samba server?
[05:09] <hmw> WillPittenger: that's weird. It shows the normal Gnome login screen?
[05:09] <psycho_oreos> did you hold down Ctrl+Alt whilst pressing F1 or did you press once on those buttons each in that sequence?
[05:09] <WillPittenger> yES.
[05:09] <WillPittenger> I held the keys down.
[05:09] <jfullernz> bobstro, correct, to identify the machine and map it to a unix username for allowing write permissions based on the user
[05:10] <bobstro> Resnik: you want vnc on headless (VPS?) server
[05:10] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: btw, does shift (on boot) work for you, or does it just not matter now that you figured something else out
[05:10] <hmw> WillPittenger: perhaps you have a problem with the keyboard or something. Can you type in a user name? if not, you could try to un/replug the keyboard.
[05:10] <WillPittenger> Holding down shift during boot did nothing.
[05:10] <jfullernz> bobstro, from all examples and tutorials I've come across the way its set up SHOULD be working, but as the pastebin will show on the last lines, its not :(
[05:11] <frobisher> Joe Somebody:you welcome
[05:11] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: it needs to be early, before the bootloader is done (right after/during the bios stuff)
[05:11] <WillPittenger> hmw: Keyboard is fine or I wouldn't be able to talk to you.  Ubuntu is in a VBox VM.
[05:11] <WillPittenger> Kevin`: I know.
[05:11] <bobstro> jfullernz: so your user exists on the samba server and you've created an smbpasswd entry for them?
[05:11] <Merritt> Well I can't figure out how to kill this updater process, so I have to assume my hard drive is really failing this time and just not reboot for now. Thanks to everyone who tried to help! :)
[05:11] <Manuelbrs> hello
[05:12] <hmw> WillPittenger: that might explain, why CTRL-ALT-F1 doesnt work. Did you install SSH - perhaps you can log in remotely
[05:12] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: well, it works for me in a kvm vm, if you are feeling desperate enough to try booting it in that ;p
[05:12] <WillPittenger> Now it got it.
[05:12] <jfullernz> bobstro, yes. I'm using root, and have done smbpasswd -an root to create a null password
[05:13] <bobstro> jfullernz: ugh. don't use root! create a normal user account and give it an smbpasswd entry.
[05:13] <bobstro> jfullernz: you can give any user admin rights without futzing with root.
[05:13] <ethana3> https://retailupgrades.intel.com/Page.aspx?Name=Upgrade
[05:13] <WillPittenger> Kevin`: I have a prompt.  How do I log in?
[05:13] <jfullernz> bobstro, still doesnt help when its not actually doing any mapping :)
[05:13] <bobstro> jfullernz: i don't see a workgroup in your config
[05:13] <ethana3> how do I upgrade my Intel CPU with Ubuntu?
[05:13] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: what prompt do you have?
[05:13] <WillPittenger> root?
[05:14] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: you don't need to login then, just change the files
[05:14] <hmw> i often was successful with installing tightvncserver
[05:14] <bobstro> jfullernz: ok, is your problem that users aren't being distinguished, or actually that you want them to link to their machine name?
[05:14] <WillPittenger> Kevin`: The point was to attempt to log in this way.
[05:14] <bobstro> jfullernz: looking at those lines is making me think you just can't log in as a specific user.
[05:14] <bobstro> jfullernz: and i don't think samba will LET you be root.
[05:14] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: so disable gdm THEN try to log in
[05:14] <jfullernz> bobstro, just changing it from root to username now to see if it makes any diff
[05:15] <rabbitear> access denied
[05:15] <hmw> Kevin`: WillPittenger: a funny way to disable gdm (or any other script in /etc/init.d/) is chmod 000 /etc/init.d/whatever
[05:15] <bobstro> jfullernz: so sounds like the underlying problem is that you can't log in as specific users, right?
[05:15] <jfullernz> bobstro, all examples I encountered showed root as being usable
[05:15] <Jimmy_Insomniac> Hi all, I'm having trouble booting up Ubuntu 10.4 - at log-in, it comes up with an error message that says "Problem with the configuration server. Usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2    Exited with status 256"  Could someone help me out? Thanks
[05:15] <Kevin`> hmw: that's so wrong :)
[05:15] <Kevin`> i've done it several times, though :/
[05:15] <hmw> Kevin`: thats useful in case it is only temporary - you will get a warning at the boot screen, so you wont forget it.
[05:15] <jfullernz> bobstro, the client machines are unable to set a login name on many of them, and can only go as a guest. hence the machine name mapping
[05:16] <WillPittenger> Kevin`: I don't know how to edit the file.  I never understood vi and don't know of an alternative.
[05:16] <hmw> WillPittenger: try nano
[05:16] <bobstro> jfullernz: would you be happy to get username logins working? that sounds much easier.
[05:16] <bobstro> jfullernz: what is your 'security =' setting in smb.conf?
[05:16] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: nano is nice. or just do what hmw suggested, chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[05:16] <jfullernz> bobstro, its still mapping to nobody, so using a username rather than root hasnt helped
[05:17] <bobstro> jfullernz: yes, thus my last question. it matters in how it maps. are you using 'security = user'?
[05:17] <jfullernz> bobstro, security=user
[05:17] <hmw> Kevin`: WillPittenger: one can edit the runlevel things with sysv-rc-conf easily.
[05:17] <bobstro> jfullernz: ok
[05:17] <Kevin`> hmw: except gdm is an upstart thingy not sysv
[05:17] <jfullernz> bobstro, I can only configure from the server end, not every client pc, so issuing login names to everyone would not be ideal
[05:18] <Resnik> ok, installed xubuntu-desktop and rdesktop ... I hope i'm doing it right?
[05:18] <bobstro> jfullernz: this is for an office with active directory or somesuch?
[05:18] <monokrome> Sorry for the join/part, I came in and thought Ubuntu was the right place for this question - but it's a vmware question.
[05:18] <Jimmy_Insomniac> Hi all, I'm having trouble booting up Ubuntu 10.4 - at log-in, it comes up with an error message that says "Problem with the configuration server. Usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2    Exited with status 256"  Could someone help me out? Thanks
[05:18] <Kevin`> Resnik: rdesktop is a microsoft terminal services client, not a server
[05:18] <bobstro> jfullernz: you can integrate samba with AD, but it's some work... not something i've done much with.
[05:18] <hmw> Kevin`: omg you are so right... in my last ubuntu version, it was still working with sysv-rc-conf, now it is already disabled. I dont like upstart. *whine*
[05:18] <jfullernz> bobstro, its for a WLAN network covering a 1km radius
[05:18] <ryano> Hi, whats the difference if any between Evolution and Evolution Mail and Calendar that come installed on Ubuntu as default?
[05:19] <bobstro> jfullernz: ok. samba won't care about network details. so there's no central user directory, just random users that can connect?
[05:19] <Resnik> ur right Kevin`, my mistake
[05:19] <bobstro> jfullernz: do you want users to have guest-level access? read-only?
[05:19] <hmw> Resnik: Ubuntu already comes with vinagre, which is a VNC server. I sometimes had troubles getting it to do its job. In these cases i used tightvncserver succesfully.
[05:20] <WillPittenger> Kevin`, hmw: I appear to be able to log in that way.
[05:20] <anlarye> on ubuntu 10.04 LTS i cannot access the properties window of any user. not even my own user name.
[05:20] <bobstro> jfullernz: if you just want a share, may be easiest to set up an account per machine with passwd+smbpasswd, then map using that.
[05:20] <jfullernz> bobstro, I am wanting to have a central folder share, with read only guest access to all users EXCEPT for a 2 admins being able to move files around
[05:21] <jfullernz> bobstro, an account per machine wouldnt work due to being a hotspot
[05:21] <bobstro> jfullernz: if i'm reading your log right, that's what it's doing. nobody is mapping to guest, pcguest and smbguest.
[05:21] <Kevin`> jfullernz: guest access for newer broken windows clients needs some rewriting rule, let me find it
[05:21] <hmw> jfullernz: you could create 2 different shares pointing to the same dir, one for guests/read only and one pwd protected for the admins
[05:21] <Kevin`> jfullernz:
[05:21] <Kevin`> [global]
[05:21] <Kevin`> map to guest = Bad User
[05:21] <bobstro> jfullernz: and the account jason-desktop has useraccount + smbpasswd entry?
[05:22] <LinuxGuy2009> If I install the base system using the server CD and I boot to the command line, how do I go about mounting and browsing my USB flashdrive or hard drive  to manually install packages from them?
[05:22] <jfullernz> bobstro, umm not sure what you mean there. jason-desktop is the machine name that is connecting
[05:22] <hmw> LinuxGuy2009: try sudo fdisk -l  to see all partitions and mount it. perhaps sudo blkid is useful for you, too
[05:22] <Kevin`> someone have a !unixclitutorial ?
[05:22] <LinuxGuy2009> hmw: Cool thank you
[05:23] <shayaknyc> hey, could someone point me in the right direction for configuring a pptp vpn client in ubuntu to connect to a windows server?
[05:23] <bobstro> jfullernz: i think that's your problem. samba, to the best of my knowledge, is going to authenticate using USER credentials, not your machine-name. your root = setting won't make a difference UNLESS you are logging in as jason-desktop (user).
[05:23] <hmw> Kevin`: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ lots to read though
[05:23] <jfullernz> hmw, thats true. one solution anyway. although can you hide the writable one from all other users?
[05:23] <bobstro> jfullernz: at least with 'security = user'
[05:23] <Kevin`> hmw: I mean something to point users to who ask questions like LinuxGuy2009's
[05:23] <hmw> jfullernz: i dont think you can hide, but you can passwordprotect
[05:23] <Crash1hd> anyone know why /etc/init.d/mysql restart is returning something about upstart job
[05:23] <hmw> Kevin`: google.com
[05:24] <bobstro> jfullernz: when you connect as shown in your log, do you have read-only access to the share?
[05:24] <Kevin`> jfullernz: you can hide shares from sets of users
[05:24] <hmw> Crash1hd: because ubuntu does not use sysv-init anymore. it is still there for compatibility reasons, though.
[05:24] <jfullernz> bobstro, yes. its currently read only due to being mapped to a guest account
[05:24] <Crash1hd> hmw, ok so how do I restart mysql now?
[05:25] <Kevin`> Crash1hd: restart mysql
[05:25] <jfullernz> Kevin`, ok thats something to look at then :)
[05:25] <Kevin`> or, what you tried before, will work
[05:25] <bobstro> jfullernz: ok. well, that's what i'd expect given your config. i think what you want to do is create user accounts for your 'admin' users, then connect using those.
[05:25] <vjr> pls help me, using ubuntu 10.4 LTS of sudden laptop turned dumb for speakers, but working fine with earphones ? had checked all options under sound volume control, but of no use
[05:25] <shayaknyc> anyone help with a vpn client to connect to a windows server?
[05:25] <bobstro> jfullernz: the write list is only if you're authenticated. it doesn't give write rights to everybody.
[05:25] <Crash1hd> Kevin`, hmm i get unknown instance
[05:26] <hmw> vjr: you might be able to find the bad setting with alsamixer
[05:26] <bobstro> jfullernz: so the level of access you have now is ok for your non-admin users, right?
[05:26] <Kevin`> Crash1hd: is it perhaps not running?
[05:26] <Crash1hd> Kevin`, nope its running
[05:26] <Kevin`> can you stop, start i?
[05:27] <jfullernz> bobstro, I realise that bobstro. thats where the user mapping is supposed to work. check this link for info http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugsamba.html
[05:27] <bobstro> jfullernz: but what username are you using?
[05:28] <bobstro> jfullernz: you said jason-desktop was the MACHINE name.
[05:28] <hmw> Kevin`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting but thats really for the bash, not for Linux in general. A simple tutorial, that covers all important things is an oxymoron, i fear.
[05:28] <jfullernz> bobstro, please read the link I pasted. that will explain it
[05:28] <Crash1hd> Kevin`, well it says mysqk start/running process 11720
[05:29] <WillPittenger> Kevin`, hmw: Now that I can login, how do I manually start the GUI?
[05:29] <bobstro> jfullernz: again, is there a jason-desktop account on the samba server?
[05:30] <xbonesx> Are there any fixes to the memenu bugs, I have such a hard time setting up facebook and getting it to stay setup
[05:30] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: start gdm. sh /etc/init.d/gdm start if you broke the script in the hacky way instead.
[05:30] <Crash1hd> Kevin`, odd start and stop work just not restart
[05:30] <hmw> WillPittenger: service gdm start
[05:30] <WillPittenger> All I did was comment out the line.
[05:30] <hmw> WillPittenger: perhaps you need sudo for that
[05:31] <jfullernz> bobstro, there does not have to BE an account with the machine name on the server.... only an account with the username you are mapping TO.
[05:31] <WillPittenger> hmw: The service one did start the GUI, but dumped me at the login prompt.
[05:31] <hmw> WillPittenger: of course. now you need CTRL-ALT-F1 again, i fear...
[05:32] <monokrome> Has anyone here had issues specifically with VMWare + Ubuntu + SoundBlaster X-Fi cards/
[05:32] <hmw> WillPittenger: wait... "Login Prompt" - console/shell or graphical?
[05:32] <jfullernz> bobstro, where in the tutorial link I pasted does it say to create a user account called the same as the machine name? I certainly did NOT see it there
[05:32] <WillPittenger> Graphic.
[05:32] <bobstro> jfullernz: ah... there is an account. root.
[05:32] <hmw> WillPittenger: thats what it ought to do
[05:32] <jfullernz> DUH!!! I've been telling you that from the start!
[05:32] <jfullernz> READ/LISTEN
[05:32] <hmw> WillPittenger: check out your VM on how to send "CTRL-ALT-F1"
[05:33] <WillPittenger> hmw: VBox uses the *right* CTRL for the host key.  I tested with the left to prevent Vbox from grabbing it.
[05:33] <bobstro> jfullernz: mine's working. just trying to help. rtfm and all that. good luck.
[05:33] <Gintulis> hi, how to change partition title on the desktop, partition „/data00„ (ext4), mountpoint „/media/data00„ on the desktop tilte is „507 GB file system”, i want that this title would „data00„
[05:33] <jfullernz> FFS
[05:33] <tmg1> if i can't get gnome failsafe to load, but i can get the xterm to load and then run metacity/nautilus afterwards...what should I do to make the gnome-failsafe work?
[05:33] <hmw> WillPittenger: well... reboot and login to the shell like before, then install the ssh daemon and next time you can login from outside
[05:33] <WillPittenger> asdfP;9lkj
[05:34] <rodd> Hi, I'm with my notebook and out of cds or usb devices, is there any way to install ubuntu? I just have the .iso file and I'm on win7 (I dont want to intall through WUBI)
[05:35] <hmw> rodd: i dont know really, but I have the following idea: you can use a virtual machine, these things can use iso files as CD-roms
[05:36] <hmw> rodd: probably not exactly, what you want, but you could get an ubuntu to play with at least.
[05:36] <rodd> oh
[05:36] <rodd> but id like to have it installed in another partition of my hdd
[05:36] <rodd> and have dual boot option
[05:36] <hmw> rodd: i know. i think you are stuck until you get a CD or Flashdisk
[05:36] <rodd> =\
[05:37] <at05gt> i just lost the icons next to my clock on my bar and have no idea how to get them back
[05:37] <kreeper_> how do i partition my hdd with ubuntu?
[05:37] <hmw> at05gt: right click the panel and use "add to panel"
[05:37] <at05gt> ya i know that much but i cant remember which icons it was
[05:37] <at05gt> one was an envelope and the other was somethin else
[05:38] <hmw> kreeper_: the live cd installer comes with a nice partitioner (select "manual") - if your ubuntu is already up and running, install gparted
[05:38] <xbonesx> Anyone else having issues with getting gwibber to work with facebook?
[05:38] <LinuxGuy2009> Ok I did a "sudo fdisk -l" and I see my flashdrive is at /dev/sdc1. Do I need to create a folder and mount it to the folder to access the files?
[05:39] <hmw> at05gt: i always get rid of those things as fast as possible after a fresh install, so i can only help on how to _remove_ those nifty gadgets *smirks*
[05:39] <hmw> LinuxGuy2009: you have already a folder for temporary mountings - /mnt - so you could do: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt
[05:39] <LinuxGuy2009> hmw: ok cool I didnt know that. Thank you.
[05:39] <monokrome> Hmm... Using /dev/dsp - it works again
[05:40] <monokrome> instead of alsa
[05:40] <hmw> LinuxGuy2009: you could create a folder and use that, too
[05:40] <at05gt> hmw: ya ive got 3 bars running right now, one is for my open programs and workspaces, the other is a quick launch and status bar the 3rd is for my computers performance monitors
[05:40] <LinuxGuy2009> hmw: sweet
[05:41] <WillPittenger> hmw, Kevin`: I finally got the CTRL-ALT-F1 inserted.
[05:41] <hmw> heheh cool
[05:41] <WillPittenger> Now what?
[05:41] <at05gt> welp time to go reinstall windows, if you dont see me for a few hours, bill gates is eating my soul
[05:42] <hmw> WillPittenger: i still recommend installing ssh, because its quite useful. I missed your very problem - why did you want to disable gdm in the first place?
[05:42] <piyushmishra> does ubuntu have multitouch capability?
[05:42] <at05gt> like for a tablet pc?
[05:42] <hmw> piyushmishra: i think not
[05:42] <piyushmishra> any drivers/hacks writte for that?
[05:42] <piyushmishra> at05gt: yup
[05:42] <Arafangi1n> piyushmishra: Any hacks would be application specific.
[05:42] <xangua> maverick will piyushmishra
[05:42] <hmw> piyushmishra: not out of the box at least...
[05:42] <WillPittenger> hmw: When I log in normally, it kicks me right back out.
[05:43] <anlarye> got disconnected, dont know if there was a response - but i am unable to access the "properties" section on users. clicking that menu option does nothing. any help?
[05:43] <piyushmishra> hmmm :( kk
[05:43] <at05gt> linux can use NTFS correct?
[05:43] <Arafangi1n> piyushmishra: Infact, I seem to recall a multitouch version of X11... But it required brand new applications written from scratch to take advantage of that capability.
[05:43] <Arafangi1n> at05gt: Yes.
[05:43] <at05gt> ty
[05:43] <hmw> WillPittenger: might be the case, that something in your home folder is messed up. you could create another user or use a typical hmw approach: rename the home folder, create a new, empty one and try logging in again
[05:44] <Arafangi1n> at05gt: Read-only is reliable, read-write i think works these days... But it's had read-only for a long time.
[05:44] <hmw> WillPittenger: not the whole /home, i meant rename /home/yourname to /home/yourname.orig
[05:44] <piyushmishra> Arafangi1n: hmmm
[05:44] <Arafangi1n> hmw: And copy the files from /etc/skel :)
[05:44] <hmw> WillPittenger: ^
[05:45] <WillPittenger> Copy what files from /etc/skel?
[05:45] <Arafangi1n> WillPittenger: All. :)
[05:45] <hmw> Arafangi1n: theoretical question: one should be able to log in with an empty home folder, too, but with certain "drawbacks", right?
[05:45] <Arafangi1n> hmw: Oh, yes, of course.
[05:45] <hmw> thanks
[05:45] <WillPittenger> Just one file there.  examples.desktop.
[05:45] <Arafangi1n> hmw: You can log in without any home folder, as well. ;)
[05:46] <Arafangi1n> hmw: (Only on the command line, though - not sure how GDM would handle that...)
[05:46] <filsuf> hoi ... anybody knows which eReader has been hacked?
[05:46] <hmw> Arafangi1n: i was thinking gnome, i guess it should work... somehow...
[05:46] <filsuf> the android ones
[05:46] <hmw> WillPittenger: try ls -a /etc/skel
[05:46] <filsuf> Cruz? Sony's?
[05:46] <piyushmishra> xangua, at05gt, hmw, Arafangi1n: http://nuigroup.com/touchlib/ what about this one?
[05:46] <Arafangi1n> hmw: I don't think gnome or any of the DE's will have an issue with an empty ~/, as long as you have one.
[05:47] <hmw> Arafangi1n: darn. i need to test it now.
[05:48] <WillPittenger> How do you rename a directory from the command line?
[05:48] <tmg1> mv dirname1 dirname2
[05:48] <Arafangi1n> piyushmishra: That looks to me like a middle-layer library. You'll still have to hook that up to actual hardware, and actual frontends.
[05:48] <at05gt> ok i just had a brain wave, if i could figure out how to get virtual box working, i wouldnt need to reinstall a windows partition would i?
[05:48] <piyushmishra> Arafangi1n: no wonder i couldnt make much sense out of it :P
[05:49] <TiK> Ive tried many linux os's and ubuntu is the prettiest
[05:49] <Arafangi1n> piyushmishra: Would be extremely useful if you were to make your own multitouch surface, as well. :)
[05:49] <at05gt> only problem is i dont have any windows install CDs, would i be able to install the recovery partition as a virtual OS?
[05:49] <hmw> Arafangi1n: oh wow / i got autologged in and gnome looks fresh
[05:49] <piyushmishra> Arafangi1n: I saw that in a video where some guy makes a multitouch screen from cardboard, paper , glass anda  webcam
[05:50] <piyushmishra> and a*
[05:50] <Arafangi1n> hmw: Yeah, I doubt it would've had any issues. :)
[05:50] <chilli0> Hello , I need to make a ZIP file of all of the hidden files in my home dir. But when I try it says no such file or directory.
[05:50] <Arafangi1n> piyushmishra: I saw a team who used similar material, but included a projector. Imagine a 3 meter touch screen. :)
[05:51] <at05gt> use your whole body as a pointer
[05:51] <at05gt> lol
[05:51] <Arafangi1n> at05gt: No, just hands. :)
[05:51] <hmw> chilli0: open nautilus, press CTRL+H (show hidden files), select all and make a zip
[05:51] <Arafangi1n> at05gt: One problem that they found, was that they had to press quite hard :(
[05:51] <at05gt> imagine it now, a new form of computer art made WITH THE BODY
[05:51] <Arafangi1n> at05gt: Hardly new.
[05:51] <piyushmishra> Arafangi1n: the one that guy in the vid made was half meter tall to let the webcam see the whole screen properly
[05:52] <chilli0> hmw, I tried, first I got an error that I didn't have the permistion , so I ran it in root. And got the error that I just said ( No such file or directory)
[05:52] <at05gt> rain on my parade why dont ya
[05:52] <piyushmishra> at05gt: lol tht was height not diagonal
[05:52] <Arafangi1n> Anyway, I must go and get busy.
[05:52] <hmw> chilli0: sounds like a typo. can you post the whole command, you used?
[05:52] <chilli0> hmw,  umm wtf? I did what you said. Can't make a type with that.
[05:53] <hmw> chilli0: just checking... you see the files in nautilus but still cant zip them?
[05:53] <chilli0> Corret.
[05:53] <chilli0> Correct*
[05:54] <piyushmishra> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1ydSP3viDk&annotation_id=annotation_114452&feature=iv thats the vid
[05:54] <hmw> chilli0: i think i know, whats going on. There are certain files in your home, that are "dynamic" stuff. Try to select only things, you know and you really want to keep. What exactly are you trying to achieve anyways?
[05:55] <chilli0> I need to back up my whole home directory ( I have copyed all of the non-hidden stuff) and put it on my server so I don't need to run of the hard drive.
[05:55] <xbonesx> Anyone know how to get gwibber working properly for facebook accounts?
[05:55] <Chr|s> xbonesx, its kinda buggy right now
[05:56] <uLinux> hmw: ei
[05:56] <WillPittenger> hmw: How do I set the rights for the new folder so my account can read
[05:56] <uLinux> hmw: i did an installation test with vbox http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5917/lucidrunningvirtualboxo.png
[05:56] <hmw> WillPittenger: sudo chown yourname:yourname /home/yourname i guess
[05:57] <xbonesx> Chr|s: ya occasionally i can get it too work but it takes a lot of retries before it actually does anything
[05:57] <LinuxGuy2009> When you run "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" does it copy the packages to the systems packages cache folder first?
[05:58] <no--name> hi. using vmware workstation 7.1.0 build-261024... host os = ubuntu 10.04, guest os = ubuntu 10.04... side mouse buttons work in host but not guest... what gives?
[05:58] <xbonesx> Is their any anti-virus software for Ubuntu?
[05:58] <kevdog> xbonesx: Dont need it -- but there is some
[05:58] <hmw> !antivirus | xbonesx
[05:59] <WillPittenger> Sure are a lot of files in /etc/skel.
[05:59] <anlarye> anyone have that answer for the properties menu not working in ubuntu 10.04?
[05:59] <xbonesx> Really, there's now way for people to hack you when running Ubuntu?
[05:59] <hmw> no--name: probably the mouse driver in your VM/Guest additions...
[05:59] <no--name> ok
[05:59] <tmg1> xbonesx: clamav
[06:00] <hmw> xbonesx: there are ways. hacking = breaking in is another issue than virus attacks. cracking linux is _very_ hard in general.
[06:00] <xbonesx> hmw: Why is that?
[06:00] <xbonesx> hmw: linux being hard to crack, is there a certain reason?
[06:00] <hmw> xbonesx: configure your firewall properly, use strong passwords, dont create folders in your apache's document root like /test or /mysql and such stuff
[06:00] <ouyes> Is  there any tool of downloading like flashget under windows?
[06:01] <kevdog> whats flashget
[06:01] <hmw> xbonesx: yes, linux is a real OS. any program you download and run can only access stuff, you (as the user) have access to, which is mainly your own files, but not the system files.
[06:01] <no--name> why is it bad to create folders in /, hmv?
[06:02] <cryptopsy> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu/Downloads# sox lol.mp3 lol2.mp3 trim 0 40
[06:02] <cryptopsy> sox FAIL formats: no handler for file extension `mp3'
[06:02] <hmw> no--name: folders people (or bots) might guess sometimes provide "backdoors"... like test scripts in /test
[06:02] <abhi_> Hello friends, I was attempting to install dropbox on ubuntu. Suddenly my network coverage disappeared and the downloading of the software was interupted, now i am trying once again to install drop box from the same file, it is hanging, how to remove the previous installation traces of dropbox in order to install it properly? I am using ubuntu 10.04 on intel dual core architecture. Please help
[06:02] <cryptopsy> help me
[06:02] <hiexpo> !windows
[06:02] <cryptopsy> pls
[06:02] <Nanobot> The proliferation of antivirus software on Windows is largely a symptom of a general culture of laid-back security practices in Windows.
[06:02] <gdb> xbonesx: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privilege_separation
[06:02] <hmw> ouyes: do you mean some wizard that installs adobe flash?
[06:03] <kevdog> mp3 decoder -- isnt that in the restricted package?
[06:03] <gdb> xbonesx: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_privilege
[06:03] <xbonesx> Nanobot: lol
[06:03] <ouyes> hmw, no tools to download something fast like bittorrent
[06:03] <WillPittenger> hmw: Didn't work.
[06:03] <Arafangi1n> hmw: Keep in mind that as far as most users are concerned, their own data /is/ the most important part of the system.
[06:03] <WillPittenger> Have to return to the problem later.
[06:03] <Nanobot> Mac OS X and Linux both use UNIX-style filesystems and security practices, and neither has any pressing need for antivirus software
[06:04] <Arafangi1n> Nanobot: I would disagree. Mac OS X has had a relatively poor history there.
[06:04] <Nanobot> Windows is only now starting to migrate toward some of the UNIX-style practices
[06:04] <linux> I think I have a virus on my Lucid machine
[06:04] <Arafangi1n> Nanobot: They're doing well only because they've not been a huge target.
[06:04] <Nanobot> Linux isn't a huge target?
[06:04] <Nanobot> Seriously?
[06:04] <Arafangi1n> Nanobot: Mac OS X.
[06:04] <WLP|Away> Macs are being targeted because of their growing popularity thanks to the Mac and PC commercials.
[06:04] <hmw> Nanobot: that's right. target #1 is windows _workstations_
[06:04] <Nanobot> Linux powers most websites, especially some of the biggest websites out there. Linux is a major target.
[06:04] <gdb> Macs have a fantastic record from a Unix security perspective.
[06:05]  * WLP|Away remembers the mail bug.
[06:05] <gdb> What hasn't had a good record is the Safari web browser.
[06:05] <hmw> !away | WLP|Away
[06:05] <kevdog> exploits for Macs at blackhat -- that came through the browser
[06:05] <kevdog> and recently FLASH
[06:05] <xbonesx> I like Ubuntu better than windows anyways, initially it's a little harder to get setup and running good, but its much better in the end
[06:05] <linux> Basically, when I get into the system processes, there is an "unknown process", well, about ten of them, eating my CPU. On top of that, there's an "sh" and a "ssh client" running that I had never seen before. Anyway to fix?
[06:05] <Nanobot> xbonesx: Have you tried to install Windows on a completely blank machine?
[06:06] <Arafangi1n> gdb: I wouldn't say fantastic.  The unix layer is good, but the fact that they don't neccessarily fix bugs for a long time, and the NextStep layer is a bit of an issue too particularly with respect to scripting the GUI applications.
[06:06] <xbonesx> ya i had windows on this hdd before i partitioned and setup Ubuntu
[06:06] <kevdog> uninstall ssh client
[06:06] <Arafangi1n> xbonesx: That wasn't the question you were asked.
[06:06] <AbhiJit> hi gm
[06:06] <abhi_>  Hello friends, I was attempting to install dropbox on ubuntu. Suddenly my network coverage disappeared and the downloading of the software was interupted, now i am trying once again to install drop box from the same file, it is hanging, how to remove the previous installation traces of dropbox in order to install it properly? I am using ubuntu 10.04 on intel dual core architecture. Please help
[06:06] <kevdog> or uninstall ssh
[06:06] <Nanobot> Installing Windows from scratch takes all day, and you tend to have a lot of driver issues. In my experience, Ubuntu is way easier than Windows to install on a blank machine
[06:06] <xbonesx> Arafangi1n: ?
[06:07] <Arafangi1n> xbonesx: The question you were asked was if you had installed windows from scratch before - not if you'd merely had it.
[06:07] <hmw> !offtopic
[06:07] <AbhiJit> i marked some channels as favorite. where to see them in xchat?
[06:07] <xbonesx> Have i installed windows from like a fresh isntall, yes.
[06:07] <linux> If someone were hacking my Ubuntu machine, or it was infected with a virus, how would I know?
[06:07] <Arafangi1n> Nanobot: In my experience, installing a recent version of windows isn't that bad, but the applications you use then take all day.
[06:07] <Nanobot> xbonesx: Meaning, you had a blank hard drive, and you booted from the Windows CD?
[06:08] <xbonesx> Arafangi1n: I've installed windows 7 plenty of times
[06:08] <xbonesx> Arafangi1n: yes
[06:08] <hmw> linux: usually you would check your log files every now and then
[06:08] <xbonesx> Arafangi1n: why is this being asked anyways?
[06:08] <linux> hmw: how would i go about that? :)
[06:08] <Arafangi1n> xbonesx: I don't know - I wasn't asking. :)
[06:08] <hmw> linux: check out the files in /var/log/*
[06:08] <gdb> linux: Install logwatch and check your email once a day.
[06:09] <icarus-c> linux, no practical linux virus exist as far as i know
[06:09] <gdb> no need to go digging in /var/log
[06:09] <kreeper> i just installed gparted and I dont know how to partition off the partition that i currently use for ubuntu, how do I do this?
[06:09] <xbonesx> Nanobot: why do you ask?
[06:09] <ouyes> hmw, like aria2
[06:09] <Arafangi1n> linux: Keep in mind that most in the linux community distinguish between trojans, viruses, and worms.
[06:09] <Nanobot> xbonesx: I was just curious. A colleague of mine has the unfortunate responsibility of installing operating systems for every new computer we hand out (which is a lot), and installing Windows easily takes most of the day.
[06:09] <hmw> kreeper: you don't - boot off the live cd to tweak your partitions
[06:09] <gdb> Nanobot: Your colleague doesn't use ghost?
[06:09] <Nanobot> xbonesx: But when he has to install Linux (specifically, Ubuntu), it takes just an hour or two.
[06:09] <linux> to all: I wonder if unknown processes and would count as malicious software? IE, an ssh client running type as "zombie" and about ten - fifteen unknown programs using an unknown amount of memory, but all the CPU.
[06:09] <gdb> Installing a new image takes about 15-20 minutes then.
[06:09] <kreeper> i dont currently it anymore
[06:10] <ouyes> hmw, like wget
[06:10] <Arafangi1n> Nanobot: He's a fool for not using ghost.
[06:10] <kreeper> i dont have it anymore
[06:10] <Nanobot> gdb: No. I'm not sure why he isn't using ghost, but he doesn't
[06:10] <gdb> linux:  Don't worry about zombies, they're not actually running.
[06:10] <xbonesx> Nanobot: oh i got it... ya you were referring to my comment about Ubuntu being a little harder to setup
[06:10] <Nanobot> Presumably because each person needs different specs
[06:10] <Nanobot> xbonesx: Yeah
[06:10] <xbonesx> Nanobot: ya setting up the drivers is the hardest part
[06:10] <gdb> linux: As for the rest, I dunno.
[06:10] <AbhiJit> i marked some channels as favorite. where to see them in xchat?
[06:10] <xbonesx> Nanobot: everything else is a breeze
[06:11] <AbhiJit> nvm
[06:11] <AbhiJit> i found it!
[06:11] <icarus-c> linux, can you identify what started those ssh clients
[06:11] <Nanobot> I've only installed Windows from scratch once. I've installed Ubuntu from scratch plenty of times
[06:11] <linux> gdb: I think I'm just going to do a fresh install. I probably don't need to, but i think i will
[06:11] <linux> icarus-c: how so? the "top" command?
[06:11] <Nanobot> (I haven't really used Windows in several years)
[06:11] <icarus-c> linux, and those CPU hungry process
[06:11] <AbhiJit> how to see bash log?
[06:12] <Manuelbrs>     * /MSG NiCK INFO Manuelbrs
[06:12] <anlarye> I am unable to access the properties of any user on 10.04 using the gui,
[06:12] <kreeper> hmw: can i create a partition table on my swap space, or will that cause problems?
[06:12] <icarus-c> AbhiJit, you meant bash history?  use the "history" command
[06:12] <linux> icarus-c: i'll definitely try the method out, whatever it is
[06:12] <AbhiJit> icarus-c, ok
[06:12] <hmw> kreeper: swap space is a partition, one cannot create partition tables there
[06:13] <icarus-c> linux, top,  ps... they all tell what you want to know
[06:13] <icarus-c> AbhiJit, note that bash history is per-user
[06:13] <AbhiJit> icarus-c, yah
[06:13] <linux> icarus-c: i guess i'd just find the ID that is using the most CPU? kill it in terminal...
[06:13] <kreeper> hmw: well can I format it?
[06:14] <hmw> kreeper: usually you can turn of swap (swapoff) without big problems (as long as you dont open insanely many programs).
[06:15] <hmw> kreeper: but i would suggest to recreate a swap later, just in case you are "powerusing" your machine again.
[06:15] <kreeper> hmw: ok thx
[06:15] <thune3> anlarye: come again?
[06:16] <linux> icarus-c: well, unfortunately, it's listing Xorg as the highest CPU eater - can't find any unnamed processes - and
[06:16] <linux> icarus-c: 'ps' isn't telling me anything
[06:16] <linux> icarus-c: i installed lubuntu, i wonder if that caused a configuration error of somekind somewhere
[06:16] <Arafangi1n> hmw: I always feel uncomfortable without a swap file. :)
[06:16] <saji89> linux, Try ps aux
[06:16] <linux> saji89: good it
[06:17] <Arafangi1n> hmw: Keep in mind that linux overcommits memory.
[06:17] <xtc> hello people :)
[06:17] <xtc> hey... can gparted resize NTFS without losing data?
[06:17] <hmw> Arafangi1n: although my swap is only touched, when i use programs with memory leaks, i feel uncomfy without swap, too
[06:17] <anlarye> thune3, when i goto the users and groups listing from the administration menu. if you right click on a user name .. there is an option for "properties" clicking on that menu item doesnt do anything. nothing happens at all. no new window opens. no cursor change ... nada
[06:17] <saji89> linux, Okies.
[06:18] <linux> saji89: what is watchdog? lol
[06:18] <hmw> xtc: i think so. But resizing is always a critical operation, you should backup your data in any case
[06:18] <xtc> yeah, but still i wanted to ask... i don't want to have to restore unless i really have to. :)
[06:18] <saji89> linux, Was that seen in the ps aux output? A watchdog is like a timekeeper for synchronisation. :)
[06:18] <Arafangi1n> hmw: Have you ever had the OOM killer? :)
[06:19] <hmw> never heard of OOM
[06:19] <linux> saji89: ahhh, yes, it was - i'm being paranoid, i guess - what should i look for?
[06:19] <hmw> Arafangi1n: some daemon that kills any process if it allocates more than a MB ??
[06:19] <saji89> linux, What is the problem you're facing?
[06:19] <Arafangi1n> hmw: The default behavour of a linux system is to give each program as much memory as they ask for, even if it doesn't actually have that memory.
[06:20] <xtc> thanks :)
[06:20] <Arafangi1n> hmw: In practice, this works out well because applications don't neccessarily actually use that memory at that time, but if linux does find itself in the situation where it simply doesn't have enough memory, then it is forced to employ the Out Of Memory Killer.
[06:21] <LinuxGuy2009> Ok now Im having an issue with installing from my USB hard drive local repository that I made with "dpkg-scanpackages". The Packages.gz file was created just fine, I checked it. I did the USB hard drive mount like "/sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt". The sources.list file is empty except my entry which looks like "deb file:///mnt/Repo/ ./". What am I doing wrong? I just did this on my desktop machine here and its working with the folder on my d
[06:21] <hersoy> hello, i am using ubuntu 10.4 and using virtualbox. i am download windows server 2008 trial iso. but i cant add iso in virtualbox. error; VD: error VERR_VD_RAW_INVALID_HEADER opening image file '/home/huseyin/Genel/iso_kalıplar/win/7600.16385.090713-1255_x64fre_server_eval_en-us-GRMSXEVAL_EN_DVD.iso' (VERR_VD_RAW_INVALID_HEADER).
[06:21] <hersoy> how can i do?
[06:22] <linux> saji89: basically, in the gnome system monitor, it's listing like fifteen unknown applications using an unknown amount of memory - another process called heart, something i've never heard of - and my CPU is being destroyed by power-hungry apps that have no name :(
[06:22] <LinuxGuy2009> Do I need to mount it in my home folder or something?
[06:22] <hmw> hersoy: validate your download, perhaps there was a transmission error. You could also ask in #windows, perhaps its a limitation of the windows software
[06:22] <saji89> linux, Hold on.
[06:22] <linux> saji89: kk
[06:22] <Arafangi1n> LinuxGuy2009: In any case, you certainly don't need to mount it for that purpose.
[06:23] <themusicgod1> i disabled everything in 'startup applications' but gnome still crashes, is there a l
[06:23] <themusicgod1> bah!
[06:23] <LinuxGuy2009> Arafangi1n: I didnt know I could access a drive without mounting it first.
[06:23] <GraphicRecursion> In Ubuntu Desktop theres a notification that pops up saying I need to install 3rd party drivers for full hardware functionality, how can I install these drivers if I'm using Ubuntu Server instead?
[06:23] <[R]> GraphicRecursion: just install them with apt-get
[06:23] <themusicgod1> anyway, linux do they not show up in ps -ax -H?
[06:24] <GraphicRecursion> [R] but what if I dont know what needs to be installed?
[06:24] <Arafangi1n> LinuxGuy2009: Oh, you can access a drive just by reading the raw bytes in /dev/whatever, but that's a bit awkward... To have those bytes formatted into a convenient file system, THAT is why you mount it.
[06:24] <[R]> GraphicRecursion: you can search with apt-cache
[06:24] <themusicgod1> j
[06:24] <Arafangi1n> LinuxGuy2009: But your virtual machine will want the raw bytes, so don't need to mount it.
[06:24] <GraphicRecursion> awesome sauce
[06:24] <saji89> linux, Try the 'top' command.
[06:24] <no--name> How can I get thumbnails for videos in my file browser?
[06:25] <LinuxGuy2009> Arafangi1n: I dont have a virtual machine going. Im using my Dell Mini netbook.
[06:25] <thune3> anlarye: i'm seeing if i can find something...
[06:25] <anlarye> ok thanks thune3
[06:25] <hersoy> hmw, Downloading is true
[06:25] <hmw> no--name: you should get them. If they are on a network drive, you need to tell Nautilus, that it should do thumbs there too. If it is local but not showing, youmight be lacking codecs.
[06:25] <Arafangi1n> LinuxGuy2009: I must be confusing you with hersoy.
[06:26] <no--name> hmw: is there a good codec pack for ubuntu?
[06:26] <hmw> hersoy: hmm. I don't know enough about virtual machines to be of real help in this case. :/ type the error message into google perhaps.
[06:26] <linux> saji89: on it
[06:26] <linux> themusicgod1: tryin that, too
[06:26] <thune3> anlarye: you hit "click to make changes", entered your passowrd, and the Properties button is un-greyed-out, right?
[06:26] <saji89> linux, Ok. tell me if it helps you.
[06:26] <GraphicRecursion> [R] apt-cache seems to search the avaiable packages, is there anyway I can have ubuntu server look for the 3rd party drivers I need automatically?
[06:26] <linux> saji89: of course :D
[06:26] <hmw> no--name: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:27] <[R]> GraphicRecursion: if it shows up in the restircted dialog... than its in the repos
[06:27] <no--name> hmw: thanks
[06:27] <AbhiJit> is there any way i can only list the currently listed 'application software' and reinstall it? i dont want automatic generat script for device driver or update etc only software e.g. gimp xchat etc
[06:27] <AbhiJit> anyone any clue?
[06:27] <AbhiJit> hepl?
[06:28] <sriramoman> is there any chat client that supports yahoo video+audio chat for *ubuntu?
[06:29] <LinuxGuy2009> Ah I ran dpkg-scanpackages with the wrong info. My bad
[06:29] <hmw> AbhiJit: you could use Synaptics Package Manager (System / Administration / Syn...), make it display "installed" apps (use the "status" button) and then select "reinstall"
[06:30] <GraphicRecursion> [R] Well heres the situation: I booted a live CD for desktop onto a machine that had server installed (that was to fix an unrelated problem). While using the live CD it showed the dialog saying there were resetricted drivers I could use. Obviously I dont want it to try to install those drivers while I'm using the live CD but do want to install them when Im actually logged into the OS (Ubuntu
[06:30] <GraphicRecursion> Server) installed on that machine's HDD.
[06:30] <[R]> GraphicRecursion: it says the name of the package in the dialog...
[06:30] <hmw> AbhiJit: "reinstall" to be selected for each package, right mouse button
[06:31] <GraphicRecursion> [R] awh poop I got to boot back in there, right down there names? I figured that whatever went and did the magic "finding" in desktop could be done on Server so I wouldnt have to boot into the live cd again ... cuz Im lazy, and frankly its a problem Id like to know how to solve from the command line
[06:31] <hersoy> hmw, yeah I've searched google, but I could not understand a thing
[06:31] <AbhiJit> hmw, thanks. i selected all of them with ctrl A
[06:31] <hmw> hersoy: same here :(
[06:32] <hmw> hersoy: you could find a VM-related forum perhaps
[06:32] <Trian3> Hey, quick (and easy) question...  If Ubuntu freezes up on me, how do I fix it?  IOW, what's the Task Manager equivalent?
[06:32] <aarcane> so uh..  on one of my servers, landscape broker is crashing without any relavent entries in the logs and no indication anywhere I can find as to why, then everything else from landscape is saying "the broker is crashing, so we're exiting,  bye"  and exiting.  what's wrong, and what can I try to do to fix it ?
[06:32] <Arafangi1n> Trian3: An actual freeze, or a dead application?
[06:33] <AbhiJit> Trian3, add force quit icon on your panel when some ap freezen click on that force icon button and click on that ap
[06:33] <Trian3> Arafangi1n:  This is CCSM.
[06:33] <Arafangi1n> Trian3: What's CCSM?
[06:33] <Trian3> So, yeah...  dead app (I guess)
[06:33] <Trian3> CompizConfig Settings Manager
[06:33] <hmw> Trian3: first you'd need to find the reason for the lockup. Can you still switch to a console with CTRL-ALT-F1? can you login from outside via ssh? does the num lock key change the LED on your keyboard? or is the machine _really_ frozen? check the log files in /var/log/syslog etc
[06:33] <Trian3> Ah, it seems I can.
[06:33] <GraphicRecursion> oh and thanks for the help earlier hmw
[06:34] <saji89> hersoy, It may be an eroor with the iso. MAybe its corrupt. Did you check that?
[06:34] <hersoy> open File Roller .iso --> i see only readme.txt "This disc contains a "UDF" file system and requires an operating system
[06:34] <hersoy> that supports the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system specification."
[06:34] <Arafangi1n> Trian3: If you're using Compiz, you may find that you hit driver bugs more frequently. :(
[06:34] <Trian3> hmw: switch to console, that is.
[06:34] <hmw> Trian3: then your Ubuntu didnt freeze on you, but perhaps Gnome. Switch back to Gnome (ALT-F7) and try ALT-F1 - does the top menu get selected?
[06:35] <AbhiJit> how to backup software sources list?
[06:35] <Arafangi1n> AbhiJit: What do you mean?
[06:35] <Arafangi1n> AbhiJit: (The sources list is so trivial that people don't often bother backing it up...)
[06:35] <icarus-c> hersoy, try to rename that .iso to  .udf  see what happen
[06:35] <saji89> AbhiJit, make a copy of the sources.lst file. That may be the easiest way, though I'm not sure.
[06:35] <hmw> AbhiJit: just backup the file /etc/apt/sources.list ??
[06:36] <Arafangi1n> saji89: It's sources.lst on ubuntu? Worst file extension ever!
[06:36] <Trian3> hmw:  Yes, top menu is selected.
[06:36] <AbhiJit> Arafangi1n, hmw saji89 i have so many extra ppa's added so in new install i want all that ppa's to be added.
[06:36] <hmw> Trian3: please describe, what exactly froze
[06:36] <Arafangi1n> AbhiJit: What's a ppa?
[06:36] <rww> !ppa
[06:37] <saji89> Arafangi1n, It was a typo. It is sources.list. Ty for noticing it.
[06:37] <GraphicRecursion> !ubottu
[06:37] <Trian3> hmw:  I was playing with one of the modules in CompizConfig Settings Manager -- Freely Transformable Windows, to be exact.  When I enabled one of the features, it appeared to froze.  Mouse wouldn't do anything except move around on screen.  It's locked in a closed-hand position, but I'm unable to click on anything.
[06:37] <saji89> AbhiJit, No problem. I think the PPA information also adds is there in the sources.list file.
[06:38] <AbhiJit> saji89, yah
[06:38] <Arafangi1n> saji89: Good. :)  grub used to use a '.lst' extension... Took me days before I realised the mistake I had made... I thought it was 1st!
[06:38] <linux> saji89: well, for the first time evAr, ubuntu froze :(
[06:38] <Arafangi1n> I'd blame the graphics driver there.
[06:38] <saji89> AbhiJit, But you would have to get the GPG key for the PPA, even if you have a sources.list file.
[06:38] <linux> saji89: since I don't have any super-valuable files, i'll salvage what i can and just do a fresh install :D
[06:39] <AbhiJit> saji89, ohh. how?
[06:39] <Arafangi1n> linux: Why would that fix anything?
[06:39] <saji89> Arafangi1n, YA the GRUB stuff is what confused  me. i uesed to make changes in it.
[06:39] <Trian3> Arafangi1n:  You're probably right.  surprising, though.  It's been very stable up until now.
[06:39] <AbhiJit> saji89, any automatic way
[06:39] <saji89> AbhiJit, I think you have to do it manully for each PPA.
[06:39] <AbhiJit> saji89, :(
[06:39] <hmw> Trian3: i see. If you can't kill the program due to a confused mouse, you can start a terminal via keyboard - ALT-F1 and enter "xkill" - then click the window, that is frozen. Tell me, if that worked.
[06:39] <Arafangi1n> Trian3: It's the main reason why I dont' bother with compiz.
[06:39] <hmw> Trian3: ALT-F2 sorry
[06:40] <Arafangi1n> hmw: With a confused mouse?
[06:40] <Trian3> hmw:  I don't know if I can kill it.  What's the best way to try to do that?
[06:40] <saji89> AbhiJit, One way for most popular PPA will be to install Ubuntu-Tweak.
[06:40] <Arafangi1n> hmw: Sounds tricky!
[06:40] <hmw> ALT-F2, "xkill", click window
[06:40] <linux> Arafangi1n: yeah, def.
[06:40] <Sterist> anyone got a link to 10.10's changelog?
[06:40] <hiexpo> killall
[06:40] <Sterist> or key features at;east
[06:40] <wrenny> hey where can I find Network Manager icon in Ubuntu
[06:41] <saji89> AbhiJit, LEmme see if tehre is any workaround.
[06:41] <Trian3> Can't type anything...  I believe because the menu up above is still selected
[06:41] <hmw> i somehow bound "ALT-BACKSPACE" to xkill... but how...!?
[06:41] <AbhiJit> saji89, ok
[06:41] <icarus-c> wrenny, you mean the icon picture file or the applet program ?
[06:41] <Sterist> wrenny Administration
[06:41] <Sterist> wrenny or Settings
[06:41] <hmw> wrenny: you can restart the network manager. You can start the applet with nm-applet
[06:42] <wrenny> i dont know
[06:42] <wrenny> this thing says to lick on the Network Manager icon, expand VPN Connections, and choose Configure VPN...
[06:42] <hmw> Trian3: deselect the menu with ESC
[06:42] <wrenny> click
[06:42] <saji89> AbhiJit, Which Ubuntu version do you use?
[06:42] <icarus-c> wrenny, you don't know what you actually want but expect us to answer?...
[06:42] <AbhiJit> saji89, lucid 64
[06:43] <st__> Sterist, less features, more bloat, more buzzwords, more bugs
[06:43] <sriramoman> anyone with a Toshiba laptop with acpi problems, pls query me if u face errors during booting *ubuntu. I will tell u how to install acpi and get all ur laptop features running fully!
[06:43]  * hmw imagines wrenny licking his screen *smirk*
[06:43] <anlarye> any luck there Thune3?
[06:43] <wrenny> so where is this icon
[06:43] <icarus-c> wrenny, normally, the NetworkManager icon (you meant applet here)  is on the gnome panel.
[06:43] <AbhiJit> sriramoman, why dont you document that ything in ubuntuforum?
[06:43] <Trian3> hmw:  Thanks.  Was trying everything (except that, of course)
[06:44] <saji89> AbhiJit, see the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.d It seems to have a file per PPA you have added. MAybe if you take abackup of that and put it in the new system it may work.
[06:44] <icarus-c> wrenny, like other application's icon
[06:44] <AbhiJit> saji89, will try that
[06:44] <hmw> wrenny: the nm applet shows on the top panel, somewhere on the right side usually
[06:44] <icarus-c> in the Notification Area to be precise
[06:44] <saji89> AbhiJit, Okies.
[06:44] <Sterist> st__ referring to the beta?
[06:44]  * Arafangi1n wonders why Ubuntu persists with NM.
[06:45] <Trian3> hmw:  Not looking good.  xkill doesn't appear to do anything.
[06:45] <icarus-c> Arafangi1n, you suggest a better alternative?
[06:45] <AbhiJit> Arafangi1n, then waht to use?
[06:45] <Arafangi1n> Trian3: Confirmed grahpics issue. :(
[06:45] <Arafangi1n> icarus-c: wicd. :)
[06:45] <st__> Sterist, beta will not differ from final result much
[06:45] <icarus-c> Arafangi1n, wicd got far less feature comparing with NM
[06:45] <Trian3> So what now?  Hard reset?
[06:45] <hmw> Trian3: usually you get an x shaped mouse cursor. in your case, the cursor might not show, but still work. "try" to aim at the frozen window and do a left click. If that wont do, i can suggest another approach.
[06:45] <root_ninja> yo
[06:45] <wrenny> must be this up/down arrow thing on top
[06:45] <Arafangi1n> icarus-c: The features work, though...  What annoyed me with NM was I could never tell what mode it was in!
[06:46] <hmw> i liked wicd much more than NM
[06:46] <Sterist> st__ what features are to be "removed"? or could you link me to somewheres i can read up
[06:46] <AbhiJit> Arafangi1n, mode??
[06:46] <icarus-c> Arafangi1n, well, i agree that wicd  does better on what it does.  but NM provides more features
[06:47] <Arafangi1n> AbhiJit: There are different ways in which you can configure the network, but NM blurs them together, it's confusing.
[06:47] <Trian3> hmw:  Hmmm, looks like I can interact with the application via the keyboard, so it's just the mouse that's locked up.
[06:47] <icarus-c> Arafangi1n, when it comes to pick a default for EVERYONE, i still think that NM is a better choice yet
[06:47] <icarus-c> of course people could get rid of it and go wicd if they want to with ease
[06:47] <AbhiJit> Arafangi1n, hmm
[06:47] <hmw> Trian3: lets kill the X server. Do you have important data not yet saved in any window?
[06:48] <thune3> anlarye: i'd asked a follow up to make sure the basics were covered. I don't see anything, since all processes are launched when users-admin is invoked. I can only guess that the users you are trying to administer from do not have "admin" group and sudo privliges.
[06:48] <Trian3> mhw:  Well, I have a few things open, but nothing unrecoverable.
[06:48] <icarus-c> Trian3, just save them first, then kill X
[06:48] <rajmahendra> Can anyone tell me how to kill a applicatin which is not responding ?
[06:49] <anlarye> thune3: i'm doing it from my username which is a sudo user
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> rajmahendra:  'xkill' in a terminal, then click on the app, or the kill, or killall commands in terminal
[06:49] <icarus-c> rajmahendra, press alt-f2 ->  type "xkill"  -> click on the freezed app
[06:49] <Arafangi1n> icarus-c: It's possible that if I were to switch between differnet networks frequently - ie, as a university student toting around his laptop... I might prefer NM, I guess there isn't a clear answer. :(
[06:49] <Trian3> mhw:  I don't know how to get to them by keyboard alone.
[06:49] <hmw> Trian3: the "cool" way would to just kill the damaged process. For this you would switch to the console and use the ps command to find the PID and then use kill. The "simple" way is to brutally kill (restart) X - which can be done with ALT-SysRq(Print)-K - what shall it be?
[06:49] <Sterist> anyone here use a ASUS K50 NOTEBOOK ?
[06:49] <rajmahendra> Thank you
[06:50] <Arafangi1n> hmw: Or use killall, if you know the command name.
[06:50] <Trian3> I'll do easy now, and learn more about the "cool" way later.
[06:50] <Arafangi1n> hmw: That's the redneck approach, anyway.
[06:51] <anlarye> i'll be back later
[06:51] <xibalba> hey everyone, i use ubuntu as a router and i was wondering how could i port forward port 53 to a server i have in my data center?
[06:51] <xibalba> i've tried  ssh -L 192.168.1.1:53:lethalnetworks.com:53 user@lethalnetworks.com
[06:51] <hmw> Trian3: you should learn the "cool" method soon - its not really hard and makes more sense in many situations. Ask, if you wanna try it.
[06:52] <halvor> hello
[06:52] <hmw> !hi | halvor
[06:52] <Trian3> hmw:  Alright, that did the trick for now.  I'll make a note of the ps command and make sure to study up.
[06:52] <halvor> did anyone get the error message ""SIOCSIFFLAGS: unknown error 132" when trying to use wifi?
[06:52] <Trian3> Thanks for the help, good sir.
[06:53] <hmw> Trian3: i usually do: ps -A | grep WHATISEARCHFOR
[06:53] <halvor> i've never had such problem so far
[06:53] <AbhiJit> halvor, he does: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1311886
[06:53] <icarus-c> halvor, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1311886
[06:53] <icarus-c> hahaha quick google ftw
[06:53] <halvor> AbhiJit: thank you!
[06:53] <hmw> xibalba: that should be relatively easy. You could use the GUI app "Firestarter" to configure your firewall or make a script that utilizes "iptables" commands
[06:54] <icarus-c> halvor, learn to google for the error message
[06:54] <halvor> icarus-c: thank you too
[06:54] <AbhiJit> halvor, welcome
[06:54] <halvor> i'll try to keep that in minf
[06:54] <halvor> d
[06:54] <icarus-c> halvor, http://www.google.com/search?q=SIOCSIFFLAGS%3A+unknown+error+132
[06:54] <AbhiJit> halvor, google with this SIOCSIFFLAGS: unknown error 132 ubuntu
[06:55] <will> test
[06:55] <will> is there a way to tell Ubuntu to look in a secondary location for packages (instead of just /var/cache/apt/archives/)?
[06:56] <will> i think i screwed this up.  I'm gonna exit an come b ack...
[06:57] <will> Is there a way to tell Ubuntu to look in a secondary location for packages (instead of just /var/cache/apt/archives/)?
[06:57] <elricsfate> hi all
[06:58] <sacarlson> will: normally packages come from the online repositories
[06:58] <will> I know.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> will:  not that ive noticed.. why are yoy trying to do this?
[06:58] <elricsfate> Anyone up for doing a little bit of reading?
[06:58] <TiK> reading?
[06:58] <elricsfate> TiK: Roger
[06:58] <icarus-c> will, maybe symbolic links
[06:58] <will> To quickly install downloaded packages when in LiveCD environment.
[06:58] <terminalvelocity> just installed ubuntu and somehow it has used 26GB of space and now there is none remaining to update the OS or install software.....any ideas?
[06:58] <sacarlson> will: would that not be a secound or 10th and up other places than /var/cache?
[06:59] <elricsfate> TiK: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1FXQy07PLZ8ayMZXYEyic8q3zwoPyy8Je_Sx-oqkGA5I
[06:59] <TiK> elricsfate: reading what?
[06:59] <will> sacarlson: huh???
[06:59] <TiK> elricsfate: you wrote that?
[06:59] <elricsfate> TiK: Just some stuff I wrote for class
[06:59] <hmw> how can i make a machine let me login to gnome, when i only have ssh access (and the remote desktop not yet configured)?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> will:  on a network you could set up a machien to be the 'apt-cacher' server - it  could cache all packages for faster downloading to the rest of the lan.
[06:59] <Arafangi1n> terminalvelocity: 26GB?!?
[06:59] <magnetron> terminalvelocity: start the disk usage analyzer and see what's using all the space
[06:59] <sacarlson> will: you can add your own local repository that is serviced by apache
[06:59] <elricsfate> TiK: Yes. Give it a read. I also have a letter I wrote trying to convince my school to move to open source.
[06:59] <terminalvelocity> did that
[07:00] <terminalvelocity> only the OS
[07:00] <thune3> terminalvelocity: you sure the filesystem didn't encounter errors and get remounted read-only?
[07:00] <elricsfate> TiK: Let me get the link for that
[07:00] <Arafangi1n> terminalvelocity: Ok, what's taking up the space?
[07:00] <TiK> elricsfate: good luck i left it open ill read tomorrow
[07:00] <TiK> night
[07:00] <icarus-c> elricsfate, it seems to me all your arguments doesn't tell why Linux is better than other open source Unix-like OS
[07:00] <manuelbrs>  /msg nickserv register count10 j.manuelbrs@gmail.com
[07:00] <uLinux> lol fail
[07:00] <elricsfate> TiK: roger
[07:00] <manuelbrs> re fail
[07:00] <elricsfate> http://docs.google.com/View?id=dhf7nzmt_39c3pfqhgt
[07:01] <terminalvelocity> home 24.3GB
[07:01] <elricsfate> http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgdpqm7_79c46bnpvx
[07:01] <elricsfate> icarus-c: good point.
[07:01] <terminalvelocity> thune3 im using it successfully
[07:02] <TurtleSoup> I need some help (who doesn't...), I opened up 81 workspaces just for the hell of it, and my system was not very happy at all. It reverted back to 36, and now that number is static, I can't change it (also, the "preferences" window for workspaces flickers). Now none of my windows have the bars around them with the X, minimize, maximize, etc. Any ideas?
[07:02] <terminalvelocity> Arafangiln ....home 24.3GB
[07:02] <elricsfate> icarus-c: This was mainly wrote to educate people who don't even know Unix or Linux exist. It may be a good idea to integrate what makes Linux better over something such as BSD or Solaris. You make a good point and I agree.
[07:02] <icarus-c> elricsfate, and you should make a clear contrast between Linux & Windows by also describing the Windows side
[07:02] <st__> elricsfate, learn paragraphs first
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  title bar vanished = compiz or metacity crashed.. alt-f2 and do 'compiz --replace'
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  which may explain the other issues also
[07:03] <TurtleSoup> Dr_Willis, thank you sir. I'll give it a try.
[07:03] <Arafangi1n> terminalvelocity: So your OS is only a few GB, then.
[07:03] <icarus-c> st__, he got paragraph. in this link https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1FXQy07PLZ8ayMZXYEyic8q3zwoPyy8Je_Sx-oqkGA5I&pli=1
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  or try 'metacity --replace'
[07:03] <elricsfate> icarus-c: Roger. In which doc. The letter or the essay?
[07:03] <elricsfate> st__: In the essay or the letter?
[07:03] <Arafangi1n> terminalvelocity: Try getting more storage space and putting your... movies on that.
[07:03] <elricsfate> st__: One is a letter and one is an essay
[07:03] <icarus-c> elricsfate, the essay. i haven't read letter yet :P
[07:04]  * Arafangi1n can't imagine using 30 space for anything other than movies or photos.
[07:04] <Some_Person> Can anyone suggest a good app for WATCHING (not recording) over-the-air digital TV?
[07:04] <Arafangi1n> Some_Person: VLC is the standard answer, I think.
[07:04] <Some_Person> Arafangi1n: How do you change channels in VLC?
[07:04] <terminalvelocity> Arafangiln:  I just installed the OS ......to 30GB of unallocated space!!!!!!!
[07:04] <terminalvelocity> no movies
[07:04] <TurtleSoup> How new is this Alt-F2 thing to go to full-screen terminal? I haven't heard of it prior to last week.
[07:04] <icarus-c> elricsfate, i haven't finish reading the letter, but after reading a few sentences it seems that you assuming Free & Open Source Software in business come with NO cost?
[07:05] <elricsfate> icarus-c: Roger. I believe the other guy was talking about my letter which is block.
[07:05] <elricsfate> icarus-c: No it has cost but it would have LESS cost than our current setup I believe
[07:05] <Arafangi1n> terminalvelocity: Paste the output of df -h to some pastebin.
[07:05] <icarus-c> elricsfate,  and there is liability for FOSS in business
[07:05] <icarus-c> *liability issue
[07:05] <tannerld> anyone know how to fix the wifi of a inspiron mini with netbook ubuntu w/o internet access?
[07:06] <elricsfate> icarus-c: IMO I looked at not just my school but the whole system and saw a lot of waste.
[07:06] <icarus-c> elricsfate, like.. who to blame if you Linux/FOSS system fail?
[07:06] <DAGr8> hey can any1 help mewith this ? http://pastebin.com/8T4tmrg9  I am trying to make it 'less dirty
[07:06] <ihayden> hello every time i restart ubuntu i got this text login thing, is there a way i can get the gui login back?
[07:06] <Arafangi1n> icarus-c, elricsfate: I've found myself that having good support for your programs is easily worth a few grand.
[07:06] <icarus-c> elricsfate, with proprietary software, if the system fail the boss could only take it, but not fireing people
[07:06] <elricsfate> icarus-c: Who to blame if a Windows based system fails? Microsoft? No the IT. It would be the IT either way
[07:06] <DAGr8> hey can any1 help mewith this ? http://pastebin.com/8T4tmrg9  I am trying to make it 'less dirty so I also tried this but none of them work so whats wrong ?
[07:07] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: There are quite a few companies that offer support for Linux.
[07:07] <Blue1> ihayden: try sudo service gdm restart
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> DAGr8:  at least summarize the problem to the channel.  people tend to not go to web sites to just read the actual problem.
[07:07] <Arafangi1n> elricsfate: What if you want support right now for some program that is rarely installed locally?
[07:07] <Blue1> Arafangi1n: patience is a virtue
[07:07] <icarus-c> elricsfate, after all, your arguments should be backed up by data & references to make it convincing
[07:08] <elricsfate> st__ icarus-c  Arafangi1n: The letter and the course over view are old. The goal I was trying to reach was not accomplished. I just thought I would post that along with the essay (which is new) since they were related.
[07:08] <DAGr8> Dr_Willis these are 2 lines pastebin :(
[07:08] <Arafangi1n> Blue1: I just want it to work so I can get on with my work!
[07:08] <Blue1> Arafangi1n: what progamme?
[07:08] <AbhiJit> is there any way i can see the total size of the pacakge i currently have installed?
[07:08] <Arafangi1n> Blue1: THe latest one I tried to play with was...  Hmm... Gitorious.
[07:08] <icarus-c> elricsfate, especially the letter,  business man needs numbers :)
[07:08] <TurtleSoup> Dr_Willis:  compiz --repalace "xterm Xt error: Can't open display: %s"  and metacity --replace "Window manager error: Unable to open X display". Not sure what these mean?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> DAGr8: so?
[07:08] <DAGr8> Dr_Willis my problem is simple Im trying to echo bt only if a directory is not empty and I wanna do this with multiple directories
[07:08] <Arafangi1n> Blue1: On Centos.
[07:09] <DAGr8> bt/but
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  sounds like something very weird crashed. it may be best to just reboot.
[07:09] <Blue1> Arafangi1n: I am not fam. with that one.
[07:09] <elricsfate> icarus-c: that was to a principal. Although I agree numbers should have been included in hindsight lol.
[07:09] <TurtleSoup> Dr_Willis, I've rebooted several times. The other users on the system work fine, just the one which tried to open 81 workspaces.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> DAGr8:  i would say check the 'advanced scripting guide' for examples.
[07:09] <Arafangi1n> Blue1: It's a complex program, made more complex by the terrible choice of platform, that being Centos.
[07:09] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: That can be a problem that applies both to windows and linux. What if you run into problems with a Windows program not commonly installed?
[07:09] <TurtleSoup> rather, just that one is messed up.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  perhaps its time to reset your desktop settings,. you could start with the panels.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel | TurtleSoup
[07:10] <Arafangi1n> elricsfate: Indeed, but windows programs are less likely to be "opensource".
[07:10] <DAGr8> Dr_Willis andwhere is that guide ?
[07:10] <Blue1> Arafangi1n: what does it do?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> !abs
[07:10] <Arafangi1n> Blue1: It's basically a competitor to GitHub.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> DAGr8:  its in the repos.. or at the tldp.org site
[07:10] <ihayden> blue1: it didnt work it just flickered. and when i went to just restart (cntrl/alt/del) it set me back to the same thing.
[07:11] <thune3> terminalvelocity: you can use :: du -khsc * :: or :: du -khsc /home :: to check size of directories or ::  find /home -size +10M -printf "%k " -print :: to show you large files
[07:11] <st__> !ot
[07:11] <elricsfate> icarus-c: I agree on the essay though. I can back that up with some more data. I actually like the essay enough I may expand on it and use it later. It was actually just a 1 pager for english comp. I am thinking about burning some copies of Ubuntu to distribute in class along with the essays .
[07:11] <Blue1> ihayden: ctrl+alt+del?  I thought you were doing this at cosole:  ctrl+alt+f1
[07:12] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: I agree but I don't understand where you are going with that.
[07:12] <Arafangi1n> elricsfate: It's really hard to set up!
[07:12] <Arafangi1n> elricsfate: Ended up paying thousands for a different product.
[07:12] <Topy44> my touchscreen works out of the box on ubuntu, but needs calibrating. how can i calibrate it?
[07:12] <TurtleSoup> Topy44, is there an option under System->Monitor or the like>
[07:13] <swiftarrow> Hi people!  I'm trying to control the mountpoint of an external drive.  Sometimes it mounts to LABEL, and sometimes to LABEL_ (underscore).  This is wreaking havoc with my backup system...  please help!  Thanks!
[07:13] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: Your kidding me right? Windows can be JUST as complicated and cumbersome to setup as Linux and thats not including the product costs associated with most Windows products.
[07:13] <Topy44> no (i dont run gnome btw, i run openbox/lxde)
[07:13] <Arafangi1n> elricsfate: A few hundred per computer? Pfft, that's nothing.
[07:13] <ihayden> blue1: noo, its like a text login thing idk, but i cant get back on to my desktop
[07:14] <AbhiJit> is there any way i can see the total size of the pacakge i currently have installed?
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> ihayden:  try 'startx' after you login and see if X works..
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> ihayden:  if startx fails. then you have some X configuration issue going on. and thats why you are going to the console, instead of the Desktop
[07:14] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: Your also not thinking about the other perks of using Linux over Windows in a large environment such as a school.
[07:14] <RealOpty> um how do i submit a patch for a package in ubuntu ?????
[07:15] <icarus-c> elricsfate, Arafangi1n: offtopic guys
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> !motu | RealOpty
[07:15] <Arafangi1n> I gotta head off anyway.
[07:15] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: Better control over user accounts, less worry of virus's which was a MAJOR problem
[07:15] <TurtleSoup> Dr_Willis, no dice. Do you know if there's a way to set the number of workspaces via terminal?
[07:15] <elricsfate> icarus-c: see ya there
[07:15] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: Roger. Goodnight. Was nice talking
[07:15] <Arafangi1n> Who's roger?
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  its in a gconf setting somewhere.. personally i would reset all teh gnome settings by deleting the various .gnome* and .gconf* directories.. and start with a clean desktop
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  there may be some '.compiz' directories somewhere also with settings for it.
[07:16] <icarus-c> Dr_Willis, i wouldn't nuke .gnome* ...
[07:16] <gdb> Arafangi1n: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_procedure
[07:16] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: I am military. I use "Roger" a lot. Its habit.
[07:16] <st__> elricsfate, Linux has no means of controlling user accounts
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> I tend to clean out the .gnome* dir. :) i know what i want to keep
[07:16] <terminalvelocity> ran "autoclean" and reboot and now get "install problem" the config defaults for GNOME pow. mngr not correctly installed ...contact comp. admin.
[07:16] <gdb> st__: Huh?
[07:16] <icarus-c> Dr_Willis, they are mostly application settings
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> which is my torrent client settings.. thats about it..
[07:16] <elricsfate> st__: To continue the discussion head over to offtopic
[07:16] <Arafangi1n> elricsfate: Interesting. :)  I'm deaf, so I don't hear any of that stuff. :)
[07:16] <jwfoxjr> ok, so I've written this startup scipt and I don't understand why it's generating 2 process id's could someone take a look and provide some insight?
[07:17] <st__> policies? AD? lol
[07:17] <elricsfate> everyone interested for that matter head over to offtopic
[07:17] <TurtleSoup> Dr_Willis, if I nuke .gnome*, uh, what do I do after that? :\
[07:17] <gdb> st__: 389 directory server?
[07:17] <icarus-c> Dr_Willis, so just nuke your torrent client's config folder will do
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  log out/back in - it should reset gnome back to the defaults.. you DO understand this will delete all your gnome settings...
[07:17] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: haha. I dig. Well if you idle here much hopefully I will see you here. I am in #nethack quite a bit to
[07:17] <TurtleSoup> Dr_Willis, of course.
[07:17] <ihayden> dr_willis: it just give me a logg type thing, how will i know if it failed?
[07:17] <TurtleSoup> Just wasn't sure of any excess steps I'd be missing.
[07:17] <st__> LDAP server!=AD
[07:18] <AbhiJit> is there any way i can see the total size of the pacakge i currently have installed?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:   the settings are  getting a bit scattered in ways these days.. but its better then it was years ago at least.
[07:18] <Arafangi1n> elricsfate: Awesome. I'm a lousy nethack player, but I do play it frequently. :)
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> ihayden:  startx failed.. if you dident get to the Desktop..
[07:18] <gdb> st__: Do you know what AD is?
[07:18] <jwfoxjr> http://pastebin.ca/1943988
[07:18] <Arafangi1n> elricsfate: (Lousey because I like to have a game in one sitting...  So I tend to be relatively risky)
[07:18] <gdb> st__: It's an LDAP directory server.
[07:18] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: Freaking love nethack. I to am pretty awful. I actually just got it installed on my ben nano note with some work.
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  i tend to use 'mc' from a console to clean out these things.   im not sure if removeing the settings while running gnome is that good an idea.
[07:19] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: I am the SAME way.
[07:19] <gdb> Bah, forget it.  off-topic anyway
[07:19] <ihayden> dr_willis: i see. is there a way around this or do i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[07:19] <TurtleSoup> Dr_Willis, I've dropped to a terminal.
[07:19] <Balsaq> can someone explain how wubi works
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> ihayden:  you need to figure out why your X server is crashing and fix it.. reinstalling is 'windows thinking'
[07:20] <icarus-c> ihayden, is it you can't start X (GUI session) ?
[07:20] <icarus-c> ihayden, screen filcker
[07:20] <icarus-c> that's usually driver issue
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  from what ive seen asked in this channel... some times it works not very well. :)
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> !wubi
[07:20] <Balsaq> yikes
[07:20] <icarus-c> ihayden, have you studied /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[07:20] <Balsaq> i installed it
[07:20] <elricsfate> Balsaq: It works alright for me
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  i would reccomend a 'normal' ubuntu install over a wubi setup.
[07:21] <Balsaq> i dont understand how it works
[07:21] <Balsaq> it works good here
[07:21] <Balsaq> but i dont get it
[07:21] <elricsfate> Balsaq: Using it on my laptop until I get everything moved over from my Windows install.
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  its booting from a 'file' on the hard drive. instead of a disk partition. is the basics of it.
[07:21] <Balsaq> looks like a dual install
[07:21] <Balsaq> but its not?
[07:21] <RealOpty> Dr_Willis, ty for info.
[07:21] <Jordan_U> Balsaq: Do you know what a loopback device is?
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  thats the core of the it.
[07:21] <gdb> It mounts your filesystem as a loopback.
[07:21] <gdb> that's really all there is to it
[07:21] <elricsfate> Balsaq: As Dr. Willis said its similar to a dual boot but it does not have its own file system.
[07:21] <Balsaq> no Jordan_U
[07:21] <Jordan_U> Balsaq: (not in the networking sense)
[07:21] <WillPittenger> hmw: I am back.  New home folder didn't work.  I had just finished installing a bunch of new packages.  Could something have happened during that?
[07:21] <Balsaq> elricsfate, i like it so far
[07:22] <Balsaq> but i really dont get it
[07:22] <Balsaq> doent seem to update anymore
[07:22] <gdb> Balsaq: Everything in Unix is a file.  Even your filesystem.  In the case of a loopback, the filesystem is contained inside a file in Windows.  That file (which contains your install Ubuntu system) is mounted as a loopback.  It's not a partition on a disk, it's a Windows file.
[07:22] <gdb> Balsaq: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_device
[07:22] <terminalvelocity> ?
[07:23] <ihayden> icarus-c it flickers when i use the "gdm service restart command" and i cant get to the gui part of things, i wouldnt know how to do that last partt
[07:23] <Balsaq> gdb, hmm thanks, is it better than a dual partition?
[07:23] <WillPittenger> Kevin`: I am back.  New home folder didn't work.  I had just finished installing a bunch of new packages.  Could something have happened during that?
[07:23] <TurtleSoup> Dr_Willis, that did the trick! Thanks loads for your help, I appreciate it.
[07:24] <gdb> Balsaq: Well, it "shares space" with Windows, so I suppose in that sense it's better, but if the file is corrupted your SOL.  I don't use any sort of dual boot setups anywhere.
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  the 'ubuntu-tweak' tool is supposed to have some sort of 'archive your settings' feature that lets you restore back to a known point. BUt ive not tried/seen the feature yet.
[07:24] <terminalvelocity> ?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  it would be nioce if therre was some tool included in ubuntu to let you reset the 'core' settings that often cause issues
[07:24] <icarus-c> ihayden, did it worked before?
[07:25] <Balsaq> gdb, what is SOL?
[07:25] <TurtleSoup> balleyne, shi* out of luck
[07:25] <Balsaq> o
[07:25] <gdb> Balsaq: Sh*t out of luck.
[07:25] <Balsaq> sheez
[07:25] <TurtleSoup> whoops
[07:25] <Balsaq> haha
[07:25] <TurtleSoup> Wrong person there. Damn tab.
[07:25] <Balsaq> wow i have a few dual booters
[07:25] <Balsaq> i am in harms way huh
[07:25] <balleyne> TurtleSoup: haha, I was actually watching that moment in the conversation anyways :)
[07:26] <gdb> Balsaq: A common use of loopback mounts is to mount an ISO image so you can access the files without burning it to a CD.
[07:26] <elricsfate> Balsaq: If you like it enought you want an actual dual boot there are guides to convert it over to such
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[07:26] <ihayden> icarus-c: yes, before it would restart and everything would be normal
[07:26] <Balsaq> when i mount an OS can i make my own loopback?
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  its a feature of the OS. so yes.
[07:27] <Balsaq> hmmm
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  all sorts of neat loopback tricks you can do.
[07:27] <icarus-c> ihayden, do you did any thing special (related) before it happens
[07:27] <monokrome> Hey. If I need to migrate files from an old install from my encrypted home directory, will I be able to access the "Public" directory from in the mount on the other machine?
[07:27] <Balsaq> cos i have been doing full dual boot installs, it would be fun to try to create my own loopback instead
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  i think you missunderstand what loopback is/does.. its a feature of the OS.
[07:28] <Balsaq> o isee so icant do it myself
[07:28] <icarus-c> monokrome, you can access the whole file system
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  You are missunderatand what we are saying witht eh loopback stuff..
[07:28] <Gintulis> hi, how to change partition title on the desktop, partition „/data00„ (ext4), mountpoint „/media/data00„ on the desktop tilte is „507 GB file system”, i want that this title would „data00„
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  you can easially 'use' the feature.. but thats not the same as 'making your own os'
[07:28] <el_ruso> help with squirrelmail
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> Gintulis:  use gparted and set its label. is how i normally do it.
[07:29] <icarus-c> Gintulis, e2label
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> Gintulis:  or tune2fs command.
[07:29] <terminalvelocity> I had to reinstall ubuntu lucid several times but used GParted to erase the partition each time before running install....and each time the installer froze for 20minutes at 83% (importing settings) or somthing like that and tells me upon startup that I have "install problem" and will not allow normal boot...rcovery mode only...I tried already burning a new copy of the iso but same results......HELP!
[07:29] <icarus-c> Gintulis, or tune2fs
[07:29] <monokrome> icarus-c: I am asking if the Public directory in my encrypted home directory is accessible without needing to use my encryption passphrase (which I don't know)
[07:29] <icarus-c> monokrome, NO
[07:29] <ihayden> icarus-c: i tryed to install updated before it happened but i kept getting errors when doing so
[07:29] <monokrome> oh
[07:30] <icarus-c> ihayden, what is your video card& driver
[07:30] <monokrome> then how can I get my passphrase?
[07:30] <icarus-c> monokrome, you tell me..
[07:30] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, if u stick windows in ther and use it to wipe it clean the buntu instal wil work easy
[07:30] <gdb> "Can I access encrypted data without decrypting it?"
[07:30] <gdb> :-P
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> What is with people loseing their passhrases?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:30] <gdb> monokrome: Are you able to get to the data now by some method?
[07:30] <icarus-c> monokrome, you just asked "how can i get my password for e-banking"
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> post-it-notes to the rescue.
[07:30] <monokrome> gdb: I'm currently on the "old" system
[07:30] <at05gt> help i screwed up, i reinstalled vista on another drive and no Grub doesnt come up, i get Err2Err3 and it loads vista automatically
[07:31] <ihayden> icarus-c, as far as i know my vid card driver isnt supported? but my card is ati radeon x700 pro
[07:31] <gdb> monokrome: Then copy the data out of the encrypted volume to something .. not encrypted.  Do your install, and copy it back.
[07:31] <monokrome> icarus-c: No I didn't, because I'm already on the system that I want the passphrase for.
[07:31] <monokrome> gdb: I already did my install
[07:31] <monokrome> on a new HDD
[07:31] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: good idea ..Ill try that.....but i thought that windows wont read or even register the ubuntu partition?
[07:31] <icarus-c> monokrome, that means you know the passphase ?
[07:31] <at05gt> if i use a live disk and delete windows will i get grub back?
[07:31] <jitu> any http expert here?
[07:31] <monokrome> icarus-c: No, because I need the encryptfs phrase not my user password.
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> at05gt:  no. if windows has overwritten the MBR then you need to write it back.
[07:32] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, yeah but it will sure wipe it clean
[07:32] <el_ruso> does anybody can help me with squirrelmail?
[07:32] <gdb> monokrome: If you do not have the passphrase and you are unable to access the encrypted data, then it's lost forever.
[07:32] <monokrome> gdb: I am accessing the encrypted data right now.
[07:32] <icarus-c> at05gt, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:32] <at05gt> DrWillis: if i delete windows will it boot back to Ubuntu?
[07:32] <icarus-c> at05gt, No.
[07:32] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, I noticed windows loves to g over top of buntu...and buntu loves to overwrite windows, makes for a nice clean install
[07:32] <gdb> monokrome: Then copy the data off of the encrypted partition while you have access to it and import it into an encrypted volume you plan to remember the passphrase for.
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> at05gt:  do you have the GRUB menu working now? if not.. deleting windows will NOT restore the old GRUB mbr.
[07:32] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq I only want to delete the UBUNTU partition
[07:33] <monokrome> gdb: I need to move it to my new private directory from my old private directory
[07:33] <at05gt> no grub on boot
[07:33] <Balsaq> oh so inthe end ur gonna have 2 OS's?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> at05gt:  then fix grub..
[07:33] <at05gt> am i screwed?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> !fixtrub
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[07:33] <gdb> monokrome: I guess I don't know what you're asking then.
[07:33] <Kevin`> at05gt: you have to fix grub. removing the OTHER bootloader will just mean you have nothing
[07:33] <icarus-c> at05gt, all you need to do is just follow that webpage i gave you..
[07:33] <icarus-c> at05gt, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:33] <at05gt> icarus-c: reading it now
[07:33] <monokrome> gdb: So, I am asking how I can get my home directory's passphrase so that I can write it down, reboot, and then use it to mount the data on the other machine.
[07:34] <etherealite> Can anyone tell me how to get the wine clipboard sharing with the x clipboard working?
[07:34] <icarus-c> monokrome, you don't get it... passphrase is the password used for encrypt your home directory
[07:34] <monokrome> icarus-c: I know. There's a way to get it if you're in the folder.
[07:34] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: why would GParted be insufficient?
[07:34] <at05gt> i reinstall grub on the ubuntu partition yes?
[07:34] <monokrome> Ubuntu even tells you how when you first login.
[07:35] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, i just find that if i have problems like that, i use a diffenret distro to wipe out everything and then rebuild the partitons and start all over. i do windows 1st give it the whole thing then use buntu to make its partiton, why it works best for me i dunno
[07:35] <icarus-c> monokrome, no.  but you should have entered the passphrase on boot in order to mount it in the first place
[07:35] <Kevin`> at05gt: you don't need to completely reinstall grub, actually, just fix the mbr part. follow the instructions though.
[07:35] <monokrome> icarus-c: You don't get it.
[07:35] <at05gt> alright im going to save that page as an html doc and then open it once im in the live disk
[07:35] <Kevin`> monokrome: what mounted it
[07:35] <at05gt> as live i have no internet acces
[07:35] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, a distro of its own flesh in blood hates to go right over its own genetics
[07:35] <monokrome> Kevin`: It's a standard Ubuntu 10.04 install, and I encrypted my home directory
[07:36] <at05gt> Kevin`: 10.04 is grub 2 yes?
[07:36] <Kevin`> at05gt: yes
[07:36] <monokrome> I am currently logged in to that same installation and need to write down my encryptfs passphrase in order to mount the files on another partition.
[07:36] <at05gt> alright thanks all ill let ya know if i fix it or not
[07:36] <Kevin`> monokrome: I would expect that to use the user password, but I don't know for sure. I avoid stuff like that until I understand how it works, since you need to know to recover it ;p
[07:36] <icarus-c> monokrome, don't you know the passphrase for that partition?...
[07:37] <monokrome> Kevin`: Ubuntu tells you how to get your passphrase when you first login, but I forgot what commmand it said to use.
[07:37] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, i just did 4 windows/buntu dual installs...and this funky wubu one too
[07:37] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, even did a cool win2000 pro / pclinicos-lxde...really cool one!
[07:38] <icarus-c> monokrome, ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ?
[07:38] <gdb> monokrome: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[07:38] <icarus-c> monokrome, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[07:38] <gdb> monokrome: There are instructions there on recovery.
[07:38] <icarus-c> dang
[07:38] <gdb> :D
[07:38] <xtc> is there a gui tool to manage virtual hosts (+/etc/hosts entries) under ubuntu?
[07:39] <monokrome> icarus-c: That did it.
[07:39] <monokrome> I was going to try that initially, but it wont let me tab those commands
[07:39] <monokrome> odd
[07:39] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, i like to run xubuntu 904 thru to wipe it all clean...then stick windows in there 1st and let the linuc distro of choice comein 2nd and use its partitoner to do the rest...works realy good for me.
[07:39] <icarus-c> monokrome, i google  ubuntu get passphrase
[07:39] <TiK> does anyone know if I can turn of 1 cpu completely until I want to turn it back on?
[07:39] <monokrome> icarus-c: see my last comment
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  Not really seen that feature in any OS other then the old 'BeOS'
[07:39] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: thats all well and good but why then would ubuntu give me problems if i used windows to create the unall. space and then installed ubuntu successfully and only now it is giving me issues while trying to reinstall
[07:40] <TiK> Dr_Willis: oh ok thanks
[07:40] <icarus-c> TiK, why would you want that actually?
[07:40] <gdb> TiK: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/cpu-hotplug.txt
[07:40] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, sounds like ur usinin buntu to wipe buntu too me
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  plus these systems with MultiCPU's are not always really multi-cpu like in the old days. so it may not even be possible
[07:40] <gdb> icarus-c: I'd guess a software licensing issue.  Only reason I can think of.
[07:40] <Kevin`> TiK: yes, you can
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  why do you want to anyway? I doubt if you will save mich power over the system auto-power saving features.
[07:41] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: did I mention that I have no startup disc for windows or i wouldn't be askind these questions
[07:41] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, oh ok
[07:41] <Kevin`> TiK: whether you get any real benefit from it depends how 'off' you make it, which depends on your cpu.
[07:41] <alaing> hi i've setup wireless on my server edition. It keeps losing the settings when I restart how do I save the settings so it automatically sets up a connection on bootup
[07:41] <at05gt> Kevin`: last question, ill still be able to use this vista partition once grub is fixed?
[07:41] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, wel maybe someone else can help then. sorry.
[07:41] <LinuxGuy2009> Does APTonCD have a known issue when you select a meta-package that not all of its dependencies are auto-selected when you choose that option?
[07:41] <alaing> I know i have to make chaneg to /etc/network/interfaces but not sure what needs to be changed/added
[07:42] <Kevin`> at05gt: yes. you will have to run update-grub to have it add a menu entry for windows though.
[07:42] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, which version of windows?
[07:42] <amanita_> Is there a way to pop in an empty hdd then migrate the installed ubuntu from the other hdd to the empty?
[07:42] <icarus-c> Dr_Willis, i read somewhere (maybe lesswatts.org) saying disabling a CPU core actually uses more than let them idle themselves
[07:42] <at05gt> Kevin`: or should i just dump the partition and run virtual box with an old XP disk?
[07:42] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: Vista
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> icarus-c:  yep. i wouldent be suprised.
[07:42] <Kevin`> at05gt: it's up to you, either will work
[07:42] <Linux_Lord> Question...sometimes when i boot up my graphics goes all wonky then when i restart or login or logout it is once again all good. what could cause this?
[07:42] <gdb> I'm not sure that saving 3-4 watts is worth it.
[07:43] <icarus-c> amanita_, i would boot from live cd then rsync the old install to new hdd
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> icarus-c:  i saw this artical today on power saveing also --> http://www.linuxaria.com/article/granola-power-saving-linux?lang=en
[07:43] <at05gt> Kevin`: which will work better? the reason I need a windows os is cause i cant seem to get wine working to run the games i wann play
[07:43] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, did u do vista 1st?
[07:43] <Kevin`> at05gt: bare metal will work best for games
[07:43] <icarus-c> at05gt, seriously... it is just a command or so needed to fix the boot loader..
[07:44] <at05gt> icarus-c: i know im making a live disk as we speak
[07:44] <hobble> Hello, how to change xchat preferences? I don't see the links.
[07:44] <at05gt> Kevin`: whats bare metal?
[07:44] <AnAnt> Hello, I am using 64-bit Lucid, it was working fine, then suddenly I cannot login from GDM anymore, when any user tries to login, gdm just restarts. Yet I can login from the virtual console
[07:44] <icarus-c> at05gt, if you are talking about gaming,  virtual machine wouldn't be too suitable
[07:44] <Kevin`> at05gt: not in virtualization
[07:44] <st__> AnAnt, run out of disk space?
[07:44] <at05gt> Kevin`, icarus-c: so either keep the windows OS on a partition find a way to get wine working?
[07:45] <Kevin`> at05gt: yep
[07:45] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: yes computer came with vista
[07:45] <solanki121> can anyone can tell me where header file for enable_irq(int irq) is located. In linux source code it is located in interrupt.h but i am unable to find on my pc
[07:45] <alaing> in the server edtion i want to install gnome-desktop. I did sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop. It fails and says it can't find the package
[07:45] <at05gt> Kevin`: thats what i figured
[07:46] <gdb> solanki121: I think you answered your own question. ;-)  It's in interrupt.h.
[07:46] <AnAnt> st__: on the contrary, I got much free space
[07:46] <SJr> Hmmmm My Ubuntu installation (kind of fresh) isn't booting. It just says /dev/sda2 clean, and then sort of hangs, if I hit ctrl+alt+del it will reboot.
[07:46] <vbgunz__> I got no answer in kubuntu about this but how do I change the theme of my gtk/gnome apps? Is there something I can install from gtk/gnome that will style my gtk/gnome widgets?
[07:46] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, so if it was on its original vista install the nmaybe the original vista hidden recovery console is still there?
[07:46] <solanki121> gdb: i cannot fing the header file interrupt.h on my pc that's why the problem
[07:47] <AnAnt> I tried logging using Failsafe Gnome & xterm, same thing, gdm just restarts
[07:47] <Kevin`> alaing: maybe you meant gnome-desktop-environment
[07:47] <piyushmishra> anyone plays age of empires 2 on ubuntu? plz tell me how did you installed it. I tried a lot of things, nothing worked really :(
[07:48] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq : I shrank windows and gave ubuntu 8GB swap and 30GB of unall. space and the ubuntu is telling me that there were install problem contact admin.
[07:48] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, if the original vista recovery partition isstill intact you in essence have a disk, in fact even better.
[07:48] <alaing> Kevin`: let me try that. sorry i'm new to the commandline so i could have it wrong
[07:48] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: windows works fine
[07:48] <gdb> solanki121: Well, here's the thing, and please don't take this as rude.  You've identified that the information you need is in interrupt.h in the kernel source code.  It's not on your computer so what does that imply?  Perhaps that the kernel source code isn't on your PC.  So if you correct that problem, you'll find that interrupt.h comes along with that source code.
[07:48] <Kevin`> solanki121: the file should be in linux-headers
[07:49] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, when u shrink c drive, what happened to the recovery partition?
[07:49] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: nothing
[07:49] <etherealite> How can I get the clipboar working in wine?
[07:49] <terminalvelocity> it is untouchable
[07:49] <Kevin`> you are supposed to immediately make a backup of those recovery partitions to dvd or such
[07:49] <Kevin`> since they can get messed up
[07:49] <icarus-c> at05gt, for windows gaming, i would just stick to Windows on bare metal
[07:49] <Kevin`> and no it's not untouchable, it should be pretty easy actually
[07:50] <alaing> Kevin`: tried that and it still cannot find it
[07:50] <at05gt> icarus-c: its WoW, DDO, and Torchlight
[07:50] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq:  ubuntu is also 26GB immediatly after install...?!?!?!?
[07:50] <Kevin`>  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-24/include/linux/interrupt.h
[07:50] <solanki121> gdb: i need to compile a program on my pc which uses the function enable_irq, for which i need to include appropriate header file. i have included the reference for kernel source code to make it easier for you guys to answer
[07:50] <icarus-c> terminalvelocity, it is your /home that takes so much space right?
[07:50] <piyushmishra> at05gt did u try age of empires on ubuntu??
[07:50] <at05gt> icarus-c: wine wont run torchlight at all and i cant get DDO or WoW to install
[07:51] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, i must admit, when i did it, i did a clean install of windows from scratch 1st so if u did this on the original factory vista install...i havent done that
[07:51] <icarus-c> terminalvelocity, ubuntu OS itself should be just a few GBs
[07:51] <Jesdisciple> yay, now it works
[07:51] <Dizzo> Hello
[07:51] <Jesdisciple> hi =D
[07:51] <piyushmishra> at05gt did u try playonlinux?
[07:51] <Dizzo> Hi I am new!
[07:51] <solanki121> kevin: thanks but i searched a lot but could not find that's why asking her
[07:51] <piyushmishra> Dizzo: welcome to the club
[07:51] <at05gt> piyushmishra: it froze my machine
[07:51] <Jesdisciple> Dizzo: new to Ubuntu or IRC?
[07:52] <Dizzo> To both really
[07:52] <Dizzo> *sheepish grin*
[07:52] <piyushmishra> at05gt: :)
[07:52] <Jesdisciple> alright - double welcome then =p
[07:52] <Dizzo> I was wondering whether you can tell me what OS uses the Linux 2.6 Kernel?
[07:52] <Dizzo> is that a stupid q?
[07:52] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, what version of ubuntu?
[07:52] <alaing> Kevin`: my server edition is a clean install so it might not have the right settings
[07:52] <at05gt> piyushmishra: yes there was much cursing and throwing of objects
[07:52] <piyushmishra> at05gt: I love age of empires :( too bad I cant play that on ubuntu
[07:52] <alaing> Kevin`: it is connected to the net
[07:52] <at05gt> piyushmishra: you ever played Civ?
[07:53] <terminalvelocity> icarus-c: right
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> Dizzo:  most disrtos these days use 2.6.*
[07:53] <Jesdisciple> Dizzo: the Linux kernel is an operating system, and many distributions or "distros" are built on top of it
[07:53] <piyushmishra> at05gt: is there any minimal installation of windows which you knw of? so that I can play age on that :P
[07:53] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: lucid
[07:53] <Jesdisciple> Ubuntu is a Linux distro
[07:53] <at05gt> piyushmishra: XP SP2
[07:53] <jackc> Hey guys ever heard of jolicloud
[07:53] <Dizzo> Dr_Willis: Would Ubuntu 10.4 be one of those distros?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> jackc:  yes we have. they have their own support room/areas
[07:53] <jackc> where?
[07:53] <at05gt> piyushmishra: more stable then Vista, and it uses less resources
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> Dizzo:  err.. yes.
[07:53] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, did you...1. choose the correct file system for buntu? did u check off the format box? did you use the correct mount choice?
[07:53] <Kevin`> Dizzo: very few os's use 2.4 or earlier kernel's these days
[07:54] <piyushmishra> at05gt, hmmm how do I install it parallel to ubuntu? anything like reverse wubi ?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> jackc:  check their homepage/facebook page. I dont recall. I dident like it. :)
[07:54] <terminalvelocity> Jesdisciple: thank you for those words of wisdom
[07:54] <Jesdisciple> Dizzo: yes, Ubuntu is one - others are Debian, Fedora, Slackware, and the list goes on
[07:54] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, and did u make a swap and format
[07:54] <at05gt> piyushmishra: how many hard drives you got?
[07:54] <Dizzo> Ok cool!
[07:54] <Dizzo> Thanks!
[07:54] <Kevin`> piyushmishra: there is nothing like reverse wubi for windows. you need a seperate partition for it
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> Dizzo:  i cant think of a disrto thats NOT using 2.6.*
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> Dizzo:  why does this matter?
[07:54] <piyushmishra> at05gt I got two but I think the other one has crashed. ubuntu wont load it at all. m not sure
[07:55] <at05gt> piyushmishra: you never want to install 2 OS on the same partition, they will be like 2 dogs circling in the park, very bad mojo
[07:55] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: ext4 ...check, and mount to / ....yes
[07:55] <Dizzo> Dr_Willis: the reason I am asking is because I bought a Wireless N-Adapter (USB) that says it supports Linux 2.4 and 2.6, but when I inserted the Installation CD, I couldn't get it to work??
[07:55] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, when i did it, i chose ext4 for lucid, checked off the format box, make a 2 gig swap partiton and chose / for mount
[07:55] <Dizzo> Am I doing something wrong?
[07:55] <xuekan> last night in the dream,I always felt that RedHat is better than ubuntu,I cann't help thinking about this till the morning.so weird.
[07:55] <piyushmishra> at05gt I knw and thts why I want soemthing to run age on ubuntu :(
[07:55] <Dizzo> should I be doing something in the terminal?
[07:56] <terminalvelocity> Jesdisciple: a hacker you will be......pure genius
[07:56] <at05gt> piyushmishra: ya i cant help ya there i cant even get WoW to run on Wine lol and its supposed to be perfect together
[07:56] <Kevin`> Dizzo: you probably don't need the cd for it, there's a good chance the driver is available from ubuntu itself. however, if you do need to use the driver on the cd, you would likely have to install it from the terminal yes
[07:56] <Dizzo> Hmmm
[07:56] <Dizzo> How would I do that...?
[07:56] <piyushmishra> at05gt how do i do it tell me
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Dizzo:  2.4 hasent ben used in several years.
[07:57] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, u did not mention doing a swap partition and u must make sure the grub box was checked too
[07:57] <at05gt> piyushmishra: i dont know im sorry
[07:57] <at05gt> i bid you all adieu for a few minutes while i go kick grubs butt
[07:57] <Dizzo> Kevin': I basically clicked on autorun.exe
[07:57] <Dizzo> and there was an error!
[07:57] <Dizzo> I didn't understand
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Dizzo:  and you normally DONT use teh files from the cd.. thats windows thinking.. the drivers should be included in the disrtubutuin you install
[07:57] <Kevin`> Dizzo: .exe files are for the windows stuff
[07:57] <DaveWM> Dizzo: pm me if you want,  i'm not busy,  i can guide you through a little if you want
[07:57] <Kevin`> Dizzo: what else is on the ocd
[07:57] <piyushmishra> at05gt uaaan uaaaan :'(
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Dizzo:  take the cd.. put it on a shelf.. and forget about using the stuff on it. :)
[07:57] <icarus-c> Dizzo, All Linux distributions run on Linux :)
[07:57] <Dizzo> HAHA
[07:57] <Dizzo> thanks!
[07:57] <terminalvelocity> swap does not allow to check for format and grub works fine
[07:58] <piyushmishra> Dizzo : lol
[07:58] <vbgunz__> I am using kubuntu. anybody know how I can get the human theme to take on my KDE colors?
[07:58] <piyushmishra> Dizzo: almost every win app has an equal/better ubuntu version
[07:58] <Kevin`> you can run .exe files in linux using wine, but there's no point for driver files usually ;p
[07:58] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, well i noticed i had issue w/ another linuc distro until i di format swap
[07:58] <icarus-c> Dizzo, on most Linux distributions, you don't need drivers CD supplied with the hardware.  it all comes with the system
[07:59] <alaing> I'm trying to run apt-get update but everythign is failing any idea?
[07:59] <amanita_> ok, I have feh, eog, and gthumb image viewers in gnome. Whenever I switch to gthumb or feh to be the default viewers in nautilus it won't remember the settings and new pngs displayed with eog when clicking on it
[07:59] <ziroday> alaing: got an error message?
[08:00] <amanita_> Also trying to remove eog in synaptic want to remove the whole ubuntu-desktop
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> amanita_:  ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package. it wont hurt to remove it
[08:00] <jitu> anybodu know about mono-xsp2
[08:00] <jitu> ?
[08:00] <icarus-c> amanita_, right click on the image file -> properties -> Open with
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> but nautilus should be rembering the settings..
[08:00] <icarus-c> amanita_, select gthumb there
[08:00] <Kevin`> amanita_: nah, it just wants to remove the "ubuntu-desktop" package. because you no longer have all of ubuntu-desktop installed. it's fine
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> amanita_:  i just reorder the list so the one i like is on top (i think)
[08:01] <amanita_> icarus-c: I did it, but right clicking is not the way I want to view images
[08:01] <icarus-c> amanita_, after you select the right open with action,  you can just double click
[08:02] <amanita_> icarus-c: won't work at all it still uses eog
[08:02] <icarus-c> amanita_, how did you select application in Open With?
[08:04] <jitu> amanita , click in the circle beside
[08:04] <amanita_> icarus-c: trying to translate, right click on a png -> open with -> other application -> choose feh or gthumb from the list, check the widget to remember settings for png files
[08:04] <icarus-c> amanita_, make sure you have really selected the app you want (a dot in the circle)
[08:04] <icarus-c> amanita_, not just make the app appear in the list nor click on the name
[08:05] <AnAnt> Hello, I am using 64-bit Lucid, it was working fine, then suddenly I cannot login from GDM anymore, when any user tries to login, gdm just restarts. Yet I can login from the virtual console. Also gdm restarts if I attempt to login with Failsafe Gnome session or xterm session
[08:05] <jitu> xsp2?
[08:05] <jitu> ????
[08:05] <jitu> anybody?
[08:05] <sarah__> I'm here
[08:05] <amanita_> jitu: there is no dot and circle there
[08:06] <jitu> amanita, you have to click on the circle to have the dot
[08:06] <amanita_> jitu: there is a square checkbox
[08:06] <jitu> r u in the open with tab?
[08:06] <amanita_> jitu: yes
[08:07] <jitu> there is a big white box
[08:07] <amanita_> jitu: whatever I choose, it uses eog
[08:07] <jitu> showing a list of apps
[08:07] <jitu> ?
[08:07] <amanita_> jitu: I know.
[08:07] <amanita_> jitu: I use ubuntu linux since 6.04
[08:08] <jitu> is there some circles beside the list items
[08:08] <jitu> ?
[08:08] <amanita_> jitu: no circles at all
[08:08] <jitu> is it lucid?
[08:08] <swiftarrow> Hi everyone!!! DVD question: Is there any way to bypass the regions in DVDs?  My drive is set to region 1, and I want to watch something from region 2.  I'm thinking some software like AnyDVD...
[08:09] <amanita_> jitu: it is 10.04 fresh install
[08:09] <icarus-c> amanita_, like that http://ompldr.org/vNWt6OA/Screenshot-133.png
[08:09] <alaing> ziroday: yes it says Err <url> temporary failure resolving gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:09] <ziroday> alaing: you connected to the internet?
[08:10] <amanita_> icarus-c: my window looks totally different dude, no tabs at all and no circles or add-remove buttons :-(
[08:10] <ziroday> alaing: and have you edited your /etc/apt/sources.list lately?
[08:10] <icarus-c> amanita_, are you using GNOME ...
[08:10] <Jesdisciple> amanita_: maybe you should also post a screenshot?
[08:10] <amanita_> icarus-c: yes
[08:10] <alaing> ziroday: I can ping google and my server edition is a clean installation so I've not made any changes to the source.list
[08:11] <ziroday> alaing: what version of ubuntu?
[08:11] <alaing> server edition 10.04
[08:12] <jitu> anybody know about xsp2?
[08:12] <jitu> mono?
[08:12] <icarus-c> alaing, malfunctioning DNS server?
[08:13] <alaing> ??
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> ping gb.archive.ubuntu.com  --> 64 bytes from ubuntu.datahop.net (194.169.254.10): icmp_req=3 ttl=51 time=121
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> thats... odd...
[08:13] <alaing> my machien was workign perfectly on desktop edition
[08:13] <icarus-c> alaing, so you can ping  google.com ?
[08:13] <alaing> Dr_Willis: let me ping that
[08:13] <icarus-c> alaing, can you   "host gb.archive.ubuntu.com"  ?
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> whats this datahop thing? some sort of round robbin/load shareing?
[08:14] <amanita_> icarus-c: my png settings http://ompldr.org/vNWt6OQ
[08:14] <FusionX> Guys help plz! -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577543
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> FusionX:  give a summary of the issue.
[08:14] <icarus-c> amanita_, you are doing  Right click -> Open With  instead of  Right click -> properties -> open with
[08:15] <at05gt> alright grubs back up and i can log in but it doesnt see the new windows OS, i need to update it now?
[08:15] <icarus-c> amanita_, Properties should be the menu entry at the bottom when you right click
[08:15] <AbhiJit> how to move xchat tabs?
[08:15] <amanita_> icarus-c: *facepalm*
[08:15] <no--name> I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and still no thumbnails for mpgs in nautilus
[08:15] <Kevin`> at05gt: yes, run update-grub
[08:15] <amanita_> icarus-c: ok I got it.
[08:15] <FusionX> Dr_Willis : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577543
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> FusionX:  give a summary of the issue. Im not going to a forum/web page to read a problem that i may have no info on ...
[08:16] <icarus-c> amanita_, you may need to do that for different image format at first
[08:17] <amanita_> icarus-c: it is highly messed up, users first see the open with menu, and there is the option to link filetypes with apps
[08:17] <icarus-c> no--name, first open a terminal and enter "totem-video-thumbnailer"
[08:17] <alaing> icarus-c: maybe my wifi connection was lost. shouldnt the connection reconnect if lost? I can ping google and ubuntu.com
[08:17] <sburwood> I have a film that I downloaded.  If I use the headphones, it works.  Why don't the speakers work?  They normally do work
[08:17] <jitu> the is also a remember option which should work
[08:18] <AbhiJit> !sound | sburwood
[08:18] <icarus-c> no--name, does it show command not found  or the help message?
[08:18] <no--name> icarus-c: yes
[08:18] <icarus-c> no--name, help message?
[08:18] <no--name> oh sorry
[08:18] <no--name> help message, yeah
[08:19] <alaing> icarus-c: i can host gb.achive.ubuntu.com
[08:19] <alaing> but i cant do sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
[08:19] <icarus-c> no--name, is the mpg video stored on local hdd ?
[08:19] <alaing> it recons it cant find  the package
[08:20] <no--name> icarus-c: yes
[08:20] <no--name> well, it is a vm
[08:20] <no--name> but i have the same problem on my host
[08:20] <sburwood> AbhiJit: ok.  That annoys me and I'm a n00b, so I hope I can accomplish the tests
[08:20] <icarus-c> no--name, now run  run "gconf-editor"
[08:20] <no--name> ok
[08:21] <no--name> in
[08:21] <AbhiJit> sburwood, hmm
[08:21] <AbhiJit> :/
[08:21] <icarus-c> no--name, navigate to /desktop/gnome/thumbnailers/video@mpeg
[08:21] <alaing> ok apt-get update seems to be working now to try install gnome desktop on my server edition
[08:21] <icarus-c> no--name, is  the "enabled" key set to true?
[08:22] <icarus-c> no--name, and  "command" key is /usr/bin/totem-video-thumbnailer -s %s %u %o
[08:22] <jitu> abhijit r u connecting your headphone n speaker on same port?
[08:22] <AbhiJit> jitu, it was not my problem its his problem
[08:22] <no--name> "enabled" is ticked
[08:22] <FusionX> Dr_Willis the display is crashing
[08:22] <no--name> "command" value is /usr/bin/totem-video-thumbnailer -s %s %u %o
[08:23] <jitu> srry, forwarded
[08:23] <icarus-c> no--name, um....  is there thumbnails for some video files?
[08:24] <alaing> eveythign seems to be installing now
[08:24] <no--name> icarus-c: nope
[08:25] <icarus-c> no--name, can you play those video files without thumbnails?
[08:25] <no--name> icarus-c: i can play them fine
[08:25] <no--name> only problem is no thumbnails in nautilus
[08:26] <icarus-c> no--name, no thumbnails even for things like image file?
[08:26] <icarus-c> no--name, can you check in Nautilus :  Edit -> Preferences -> Preview
[08:27] <icarus-c> no--name, show thumbnail is set to  Local FIles only  or  Always
[08:27] <icarus-c> no--name, if they are,  make sure you have the ~/.thumbnails directory & you have read/write permission to
[08:27] <Ghag> I need a java runtime enviroment 1.5.0 or higher, anyone got one?
[08:28] <AbhiJit> !java > Ghag
[08:28] <icarus-c> Ghag, you need to install either openjdk6 or jre
[08:28] <Ghag> icarus-c any of the, uhm, done through the ubuntu package manager/
[08:28] <jitu> Ghag go to sun's site
[08:29] <icarus-c> (openjdk-6-jre  OR  sun-java6-jre  if i remember correctly)
[08:29] <icarus-c> Ghag, yes you can install from packaage manager
[08:29] <jitu> Ghag: http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp
[08:30] <Ghag> so do i use the snyaptic manager or the normal updater?
[08:30] <icarus-c> jitu, why would you do that when there is ubuntu package available on the repo?
[08:30] <icarus-c> Ghag, synaptic
[08:30] <Ghag> what would it be under?
[08:31] <jitu> sun one is most updated
 no--name, no thumbnails even for things like image file?
[08:31] <kuttan_> Hello folks , am looking for a small wiki app. Requirement: should store data in users home-dir. Some  minimal app ? Suggestions - Thanks { No not Tomboy/Zim please }
[08:31] <no--name> i get thumbnails for images, but not videos
[08:31] <icarus-c> Ghag, i'm not sure, not at ubuntu at the moment.
[08:31] <icarus-c> Ghag, you could search
[08:32] <jpds> Dr_Willis: Datahop is a network service provider.
[08:32] <jpds> Dr_Willis: See: http://www.datahop.net
[08:32] <Ghag> Okay, here icarus-c http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ZVyjUmKL
[08:33] <Katsumi32> good mourning
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> jpds:  ok. :) never heard of them
[08:33] <no--name> icarus-c: ~/.thumbnails is drwx------
[08:33] <no--name> haven't learnt how to read permissions yet :P
[08:34] <jpds> Dr_Willis: They're a Tier-2 network; and host gb.archive.u.c. Nice guys.
[08:34] <icarus-c> Ghag, now you should have java runtime installed
[08:34] <AbhiJit> hi Katsumi32
[08:35] <Ghag> icarus-c what command do i use?
[08:35] <icarus-c> Ghag, java
[08:35] <Ghag> FFFFFFFF, what command?
[08:35] <Ghag> Sudo update...?
[08:35] <Katsumi32> Ghag, what do you want to do ?
[08:35] <Ghag> Install java, here http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ZVyjUmKL
[08:36] <Katsumi32> Ghag, so you have got java installed and what the problem ?
[08:36] <icarus-c> Ghag, run "java -version" command you will understand
[08:38] <Ghag> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/XTjLDvzV
[08:38] <icarus-c> Ghag, you have java installed
[08:39] <Ghag> It tells me I don't
[08:40] <icarus-c> Ghag, what were you trying to do that asking for java runtime 1.5+ ?
[08:41] <leagris> hello, I try to install quanta but it conflict with the kdewebdev package it is supposed to be already in. Though kdewebdev only contains docs and a readme file stating it should include quanta, (which it does not). What should I do? Install standalone quanta which rely on kde3 (universe and throw out kdewebdev (main) wich appear to miss quanta+ despite being the official supported package?
[08:43] <Ghag> http://img411.imageshack.us/i/123fef.png/ <---there icarus-c
[08:53] <Zolomon> I can't seem to fix my locale/encoding in weechat
[08:53] <Zolomon> I've set it to se_SV and UTF-8 everywhere but my language's special characters still render like ????, ???? and ????.
[08:54] <AnAnt> Hello, I am using 64-bit Lucid, it was working fine, then suddenly I cannot login from GDM anymore, when any user tries to login, gdm just restarts. Yet I can login from the virtual console. Also gdm restarts if I attempt to login with Failsafe Gnome session or xterm session. Also, running startx from the console is successful ! So it seems a gdm problem to me, anyone got a clue ?!
[08:54] <FusionX> i recently installed xubuntu 10.4 using wubi under my windows C: drive (4 GB). Now sometimes after booting up xubuntu, the screen crashes at random times and starts blinking white stripes on half of the screen. And also when xubuntu boots up the logo appears very pixelly and looks as if it is run in safe mode and before the logo appears a quick green color flashes on the screen. My xorg.0.log --> http://pastebin.com/uAy3NS4f . I use Samsung syncmaster
[08:55] <li4> heloo.
[08:56] <li4> why so many Floodbot?
[08:56] <li4> fuck
[08:56] <li4> goodbye
[08:57] <Ghag> Dead room is dead
[08:57] <li4> fuck ubuntu.
[08:57] <li4> fuc
[08:57] <li4> afjasdf
[08:57] <li4> asldfkjasldf
[08:57] <li4> askdfja
[08:57] <FloodBot3> li4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.
[08:59] <ChrisPitzer> I am running ubuntu, and am connected to a vpn.  Then I launch virtualbox, run windows in it (on my ubuntu machine) and I can't see the vpn sites from within windows... is there any way to accomplish this?
[09:00] <ChrisPitzer> it's a virtual connection, so I would think it should share the vpn connection... aparently not. :P
[09:00] <icarus-c> ChrisPitzer, is it a NAT network or bridge between guest &  host
[09:01] <ChrisPitzer> i currently have it set up as bridged.
[09:01] <ChrisPitzer> but that's changeable.
[09:01] <greenIT> i have a problem and need a fast answer plz: i executed e2fsck and read the warning too late, pressed yes and now my system isn't booting anymore, what can i do?
[09:01] <DiscoStew> whats most common scripts in use for xhat?
[09:02] <rww> greenIT: You ran e2fsck on a mounted filesystem?
[09:02] <greenIT> rww: yes
[09:02] <greenIT> rww: i know it was a very big mistake....
[09:02] <rww> greenIT: umm. To answer your question, "nothing".
[09:03] <greenIT> rww: what? i can't recover my system?
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> boot live cd. fsck it again.. and hope.. perhaps
[09:03] <R33D3M33R> hi all
[09:03] <greenIT> good, i try this method... i hope it works :S
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> boot live cd - see what you can access.../back it up first
[09:04] <DiscoStew> hi R33D3M33R
[09:04] <R33D3M33R> so whats the problem with empathy? it doesn't seem to take standard irc commands?
[09:04] <rww> greenIT: There's a reason why the first section of the manpage says that the only correct answer to that warning is "no".
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> R33D3M33R:  its an IM client fiorst.. and an irc client second.
[09:04] <R33D3M33R> :(
[09:04] <Name141> if I was to just use Ubuntu as a file server on an old computer, do I want the desktop or server disk for min install ?
[09:06] <R33D3M33R> aha: http://live.gnome.org/Empathy/FAQ#Does_Empathy_have_.2BAC8--command_functionality_.28.2BAC8-msg.2C_.2BAC8-join.2C_etc..29.3F
[09:06] <Name141> I'm assuming the desktop would install a GUI, and all that stuff that I don't really want ?
[09:06] <AnAnt> Name141: yup, and server doesn't install GUI
[09:06] <R33D3M33R> Name141: I user alternate CD for minimal install
[09:07] <Name141> AnAnt: I don't assume it's gonna install all sorts of stuff like apache and junk I don't want too ?
[09:07] <AnAnt> Name141: dunno, R33D3M33R's suggestion is nice
[09:07] <R33D3M33R> if you choose minimal install, the it installs the base system, after that you can use aptitude to install more packages
[09:08] <Name141> R33D3M33R: oh.  I didn't see that option in the regular install disk
[09:08] <Name141> R33D3M33R: It just went bam boom.. and done
[09:08] <Name141> after a few clicks and user data
[09:08] <R33D3M33R> its only in the alternate cd
[09:08] <R33D3M33R> you must edit boot options
[09:08] <R33D3M33R> press f6 or something like that
[09:08] <R33D3M33R> there you can choose command line install
[09:09] <Name141> R33D3M33R: I can go ahead and use the shipped Ubuntu disk? or still need to get alternative disk ?
[09:10] <R33D3M33R> i never tried to install command live from livecd
[09:10] <R33D3M33R> it probably doesn't work
[09:10] <R33D3M33R> but live DVD has both: alternate and live installer
[09:11] <Name141> R33D3M33R: i'm assuming http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/10.04.1/ubuntu-10.04.1-alternate-i386.iso
[09:11] <Name141> is what I want
[09:12] <R33D3M33R> yes. if you have 64-bit processor, then you maybe want to choose the amd64 version
[09:12] <Name141> lol, I don't think a Pentium2 is a 64bit
[09:12] <R33D3M33R> :)
[09:13] <Name141> anyway, it's downloading.. I'll see if it'll squeeze in some more space on the 10GB drive
[09:13] <Name141> so I can toss in files and stuff
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> seen 2TB hd's on sale for $109
[09:14] <Name141> Yeah.. that'd be for this system.
[09:14] <R33D3M33R> if it has processor so old, it wouldn't recognise the disk
[09:14] <Name141> Although I thought about seeing if I can put in a EIDE on that machine
[09:14] <Name141> Dr_Willis: Gateway told me I could only put in a 20GB hard drive internal ?
[09:15] <R33D3M33R> that is probably true
[09:15] <Name141> Dr_Willis: But yet I had a 300 GB external USB2.0 on it for months
[09:15] <Name141> with no issues
[09:15] <R33D3M33R> but with usb 1.1 speed :)
[09:15] <Name141> no, I put in PCI USB2.0
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> Name141:  i would be suprised if theres a 20gb limit on an internal ide conector.. unless its some Weird bios limitation
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> Name141:  try it and see...
[09:16] <Name141> Dr_Willis: It's a Gateway Essential 450
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> finding IDE drives is getting harder and harder. :)
[09:16] <Name141> Pheanix bios some sort
[09:16] <wolc> hey there fellas, can anyone tell me how to make my pendrive bootable? as in put in a boot flag or something like that? and i am actually installing windows so i don't think unetbootin and stuff like that will be helpful
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> Name141:  means very little to me. :) may be a limit.. may not be. try it and see.
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> wolc:  clarify what you are doing. You want to put a windows ISO on a pendrive and boot it?
[09:16] <Name141> Dr_Willis: I can't just start buying stuff at random.. So I think I'm gonna let it be and buy a new external for this machine.
[09:17] <Name141> Dr_Willis: unless I can get my friend to hand over his 80 GB EIDE
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> Name141:  buy? :) i manage to scrounge up old IDE drives all teh time.
[09:17] <Name141> then I'll try it for (almost) free
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> borrow it and see if it works
[09:17] <wolc> Dr_Willis: i already put the windows iso on a usb jus need help to make it boot
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> wolc:  that may not even be possible. I would ask in #windows if they know of any guides on it.
[09:17] <amit> hi
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> wolc:  grub2 can boot iso files IF the OS on the iso file has 'support' for the feature
[09:18] <Name141> Dr_Willis: Maybe I should have tested my WD that was in an enclosure that was going out
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> wolc:  but that dosent mean it can boot a windows iso.
[09:18] <Name141> Dr_Willis: but it's gone now
[09:18] <amit> I installed ubuntu inside windows (wubi) after reboot only windows is booting with c:\boot.ini
[09:18] <amit> installed ubuntu is there in d drive
[09:19] <amit> how to add ubuntu into windows boot file
[09:19] <wolc> Dr_Willis:  i am trying to install it on a comp that has nothing on it, a clean hdd
[09:19] <wolc> Dr_Willis: solution pls
[09:20] <euptc> is the microsoft-like drivers support in ubuntu universal or specific to different drivers?
[09:21] <fab> Hello
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> wolc:  ask in #windows they may know some tricks.
[09:22] <Crash2108> Is Ubuntu ever getting OS X like widgits?
[09:22] <Crash2108> Preferably Android App based?
[09:23] <DiscoStew> Dr_Willis, you started with Linux, not with Windows like all others? :)
[09:23] <Anony_Moose> I have an asus eee pc 900 with ubuntu on it. whenever the fan turns on the CPU usage maxes out, thereby keeping the CPU hot and stopping the fan from going down again. Can anyone explain this?
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> Crash2108:  theres the google gizmos, and opera has widgits, and then theres a few others out there also.
[09:23] <wolc> Dr_Willis: oh ok, but i am on a xubuntu only lap so thought i'd post here
[09:23] <kakaz> How do i turn on startup sound ?
[09:23] <kakaz> CLI way
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> DiscoStew:  actually i started on a C64, C128, then AMIGA, then Windows95 for a short time -> then Linux
[09:23] <R33D3M33R> ok, pidgin is better :)
[09:23] <Crash2108> I just don't think Ubuntu has the best interface yet.  Some netbook distros are close...
[09:23] <fab> anyone can help me please ? i cant connect via wireless... only via ethernet
[09:24] <DiscoStew> Dr_Willis, hmm with Mandrake?
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> DiscoStew:  ive used mandrake, RH, Gentoo,  Ubuntu,  and a few others.
[09:24] <Crash2108> How do decisions get made about where Ubuntu goes?
[09:24] <robotti^> Dr_Willis: I started on a C64, then PC with MS-DOS, after then Linux.
[09:24] <kakaz> move all speculations out
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> Crash2108:  Mr. ShuttleWorth Decides
[09:24] <Crash2108> Like who decides to put a useless Twitter button on the corner but not fix the broken file manager?
[09:24] <robotti^> that
[09:24] <kakaz> This is support channel not discussion
[09:24] <DiscoStew> Understand, in '98-'99 everyone used Mandrake...
[09:25] <alaing> how do i add synapatic package manager to my gnome-desktop environment
[09:25] <DrAllcome> Hello everybody
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> alaing:  add an icon for synaptic? drag/drop it from th menus to the desktop
[09:25] <aleksi> Hello, is there a way to sync ubuntuone on debian? i have ubuntu on my laptop but debian running my server
[09:26] <alaing> Dr_Willis: no I cant find it in the menus
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> aleksi:  theres the #ubuntuone channel that may know - if no one in here knows.. (ive no idea how it would be done)
[09:26] <alaing> I'm running it on server edition
[09:26] <fab> hello, anyone can help me please ? i cant connect via wireless... only via ethernet
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> alaing:  system -> admin -> synaptic package manager
[09:26] <kakaz> how do i turn on startup sound effect ?
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> alaing:  or make a launcher that runs 'gksudo synaptic'
[09:26] <DrAllcome> I have some questions regarding the new kernel update I just installed. generic 2.6.32-25.43
[09:26] <aleksi> Dr_Willis, ok thanks :)
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> fab:  tell the channel your wuireless chipset. and you have tryed the system -> admin -> hardware drivers tool ?
[09:26] <DrAllcome> I have no sound since this update.
[09:26] <DiscoStew> fab, did u enter information about your wi-fi network? like SSID, protection type etc
[09:27] <alaing> Dr_Willis: its not in that menu
[09:27] <jatt> I do have an external USB disk formatted as follows, what should I do to make it bootable? Although fdisk shows /dev/sdb2 is bootable it doesn't boot after adjusting the bios to use USB: http://codepad.org/o4sAD9lH
[09:27] <alaing> Dr_Willis: i'll try your other suggestion later
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> alaing:  odd... it has been there for the last X releases that i can rember,.
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> alaing:  run it from terminal.. be sure its isntalled
[09:27] <R33D3M33R> does anyone know how ubuntu-software-center categorizes packages?
[09:28] <DrAllcome> My Sound device is available via lsusb ... Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0d8c:0201 C-Media Electronics, Inc. CM6501
[09:28] <alaing> ok i'll try late ri. on my way out
[09:28] <euptc> will ubuntu run virtual dub and will it work??
[09:28] <kakaz> DrAllcome: ubuntu uses still pulseaudio ?
[09:28] <DiscoStew> via wine?
[09:28] <DrAllcome> Right ..
[09:29] <DrAllcome> kakaz: I think so ... how can I check that.
[09:29] <kakaz> DrAllcome: i recommend you dont waste time with that chipset and use alsa
[09:29] <DiscoStew> avidemux is native linux software similar to virtual dub
[09:29] <amit>  I installed ubuntu inside windows (wubi) after reboot only windows is booting with c:\boot.ini
[09:29] <Jesdisciple> Grr...  When I try making a desktop launcher for "bash ~/launch.sh" it doesn't do anything
[09:29] <Philip1> I'm a total newbie with Ubuntu, and Linux for that matter, can someone answer some basic questions for me?
[09:29] <kakaz> DrAllcome: C-media never more...
[09:29] <amit> hello..
[09:29] <Jesdisciple> but pasting the same into terminal works correctly -_-
[09:30] <Anony_Moose> !ask > Philip1
[09:30] <amit> I want to modify my boot.ini file from windows installation
[09:30] <kakaz> Jesdisciple: its not executed / chmoded ?
[09:30] <amit> and add the ubuntu into boot option
[09:30] <amit> ubuntu is already installed
[09:30] <DrAllcome> kaza: I have tried to use alsa only ... I mean with that that I have uninstalled pulseaudio but this wasn't working. Do you have a good manual link for this matter?
[09:30] <Jesdisciple> yep, it's set as excecutable
[09:30] <Jesdisciple> kazak ^^^
[09:30] <DiscoStew> Philip1, shoot the question, some will answer :)
[09:31] <kakaz> Jesdisciple: show me script / paste
[09:31] <Philip1> Ok, thanks, I didn't get the ubottu thingie....So when I boot I get to chose between 3 generics, I have googled alot, but didn't come to any conclusion.... What is an generic, and which one should I boot ubuntu with?
[09:31] <kakaz> DrAllcome: well you need to make choice...you want repair with pulseaudio or start using alsa
[09:31] <kakaz> Philip1: first one
[09:31] <DiscoStew> Philip1, those are kernel's u have installed
[09:32] <DiscoStew> can boot any of them, preffered last one
[09:32] <DiscoStew> the biggest number
[09:32] <Jesdisciple> kazak:
[09:32] <Jesdisciple> #! /bin/bash
[09:32] <Jesdisciple> xchat &
[09:32] <Jesdisciple> skype &
[09:32] <Jesdisciple> empathy &
[09:32] <FloodBot3> Jesdisciple: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:32] <Jesdisciple> woops
[09:32] <Philip1> Alright, the thing is , I tried the #11 ,but I just got black screen.... Did I do something wrong when installing, or should I have 3 kernels?
[09:32] <Jesdisciple> didn't seem too long imo...
[09:32] <kakaz> Jesdisciple: well you want run all of them ?
[09:33] <DiscoStew> On first installation you should have only one, after updates u have more
[09:33] <Jesdisciple> yep, don't wanna click all
[09:33] <DrAllcome> kaza: What will help me making a desicion? I'm still not very good with such things and I do not know the steps I need to take. I also don't know what really is needed ... So I would greatly apprechetate having a manual or somebody helps me.
[09:33] <whosjose> when i try to extract a 7z file it doesn't extract it says file type unknown how is that possible?
[09:34] <DrAllcome> kaza:I also use wine, virtual box and of course would like to have this working after wards ;)
[09:34] <R33D3M33R> whosjose: do you have 7zip plugin installed?
[09:34] <kakaz> DrAllcome: that have nothing to do with that
[09:34] <kakaz> Jesdisciple: give me sec
[09:34] <gNostic> whosjose: use p7zip
[09:34] <Jesdisciple> kazak: alrighty
[09:35] <whosjose> yes
[09:35] <Philip1> I am currently dualbooting ubuntu with vista, is it possible for both OS to share the same "home" folder?
[09:35] <DiscoStew> No, there are different OS Philip1
[09:35] <DrAllcome> kaza: So what do you suggest?
[09:35] <R33D3M33R> ubuntu home folder contains user settings
[09:36] <R33D3M33R> and vista just documents
[09:36] <R33D3M33R> maybe you could just symlink the vista my documents to ubuntu home
[09:36] <Philip1> Symlink?
[09:36] <R33D3M33R> yeah, create a link to the vista folder
[09:37] <Philip1> Hmm , i see, how would i go about doing that?
[09:37] <R33D3M33R> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_link
[09:37] <Philip1> Thanks
[09:37] <kakaz> Jesdisciple: what the script is doing for u ?
[09:37] <DrAllcome> kaza: actually I thought staying with pulseaudio would make sense as I red it is the standard audio system with gnome.
[09:38] <kakaz> DrAllcome: no its just ubuntu choice :>
[09:38] <Jesdisciple> well, it works fine when I do it in terminal... it gets all three open and running fine
[09:38] <Jesdisciple> oops, kazak ^^^
[09:38] <kakaz> what it is doing when you click on it
[09:39] <DrAllcome> kaza: But yes i saw some links for configuring alsa with the cm* chip but it was not working for me.
[09:39] <Jesdisciple> kazak: XChat offers the Connect button, while Skype and Empathy log in
[09:39] <Jesdisciple> kazak: it just doesn't do anything when I click it >.<
[09:39] <DrAllcome> kaza: Do you know a good link or are you able to help me out with anything?
[09:40] <kakaz> did u chmod +x on it ?
[09:40] <Jesdisciple> kazak: the GUI shows it as checked for execution in Properties > Permissions
[09:40] <kakaz> do it from cli to make sure
[09:41] <kakaz> DrAllcome: what c-media chipset please
[09:42] <DrAllcome> kakaz: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0d8c:0201 C-Media Electronics, Inc. CM6501
[09:42] <Jesdisciple> kazak: done, same behavior
[09:42] <kakaz> Jesdisciple: paste that script please
[09:43] <kakaz> DrAllcome: is that one 8 channel usb audio device ?
[09:43] <Jesdisciple> kazak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/496348/
[09:43] <DiscoStew> did my internet go down?
[09:44] <Jesdisciple> DiscoStew: apparently not...?
[09:44] <R33D3M33R> does anyone use pidgin here?
[09:44] <DrAllcome> kakaz: usb audio device ... that I know if its with 8 chanels I donno.
[09:44] <DiscoStew> yeah everything is ok... :)
[09:44] <kakaz> Jesdisciple: #!/bin/bash
[09:44] <DrAllcome> kakaz: Can I find that out anyhow?
[09:44] <MrEntropy> yo
[09:45] <ciphergoth> I've set up a VPN in Preferences > Network Connections but I can't see how to turn it on - nm-applet is running but there's no icon in the notification area.  Any ideas?
[09:45] <MrEntropy> when someone is VNCing into me, i get a desktop message asking to allow/disallow. how do i disable this?
[09:45] <Jesdisciple> kazak: the space killed me? lol
[09:45] <Jesdisciple> kazak: and in GUI mode but not in CLI...? weird
[09:45] <MrEntropy> iptables is clean, so this is some daemon firewall crap
[09:45] <DrAllcome> kakaz: But my guess it yes .. because I got this machine sold as a kinda Multimedia linux machine, haha  --> :(
[09:46] <kakaz> DrAllcome:
[09:46] <kakaz> damn
[09:46] <Jesdisciple> kazak: no, no difference...
[09:46] <kakaz> cat /proc/asound/version
[09:46] <prince_jammys> space after #! is ok.
[09:46] <kakaz> Jesdisciple: ><
[09:46] <DrAllcome> kazak: sorry for sending to the wrong alias. kakaz and kazak mixup ;) ...
[09:46] <Jesdisciple> kazak: yarly
[09:48] <thune3> MrEntropy: Disable vnc or diable the confirmation message? All related settings are in System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[09:48] <MrEntropy> thune3 what about from the cli?
[09:48] <MrEntropy> i did "ufw disable" but that didn't cut it
[09:49] <thune3> MrEntropy: ufw doesn't do any dialog messages, if i understand it. The dialog is coming from your vnc server
[09:50] <MrEntropy> thune3: i see. ok, i'll investigate
[09:51] <collabra> MrEntropy: that above command disabled your firewall,...ufw disable
[09:51] <collabra> just a note
[09:52] <xbonesx> first things first how do i stop the #ubuntu unregistered thing when i start xchat?
[09:53] <xbonesx> and join ubuntu server??
[09:53] <collabra> !register
[09:53] <Guest17686> I want help you are frustrating me
[09:53] <xbonesx> i have that setup and i have xchat setup too auto type the pass for nickserv but it still does it
[09:53] <xbonesx> !register
[09:54] <Guest17686> how can I play .dat file in ubuntu 10.04
[09:54] <DiscoStew> euptc, dont finger me :p
[09:56] <Jesdisciple> kazak: apparently I shouldn't have been calling bash
[09:57] <Jesdisciple> kazak: and ~ was not recognized, I had to use the fully qualified path
[09:57] <mainrain> whats the cleanest way to count the number of a given program is running?  i can `ps ax | grep progname | grep -v grep | wc -l` but i feel like theres something better laying arround
[09:58] <Jesdisciple> kazak: I am very confused why the bash command wouldn't work...
[09:58] <Crash2108> Hello friends.
[09:58] <Jesdisciple> ahoy
[09:58] <Crash2108> My root account has fancy colors in the CLI.  How do i get those colors in all accounts?
[10:00] <prince_jammys> Crash2108: you mean the shell prompt has colors?
[10:00] <Crash2108> Yes, paths are in red, my name is colored, etc.
[10:00] <Jesdisciple> Crash2108: try here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=470626
[10:00] <prince_jammys> look for the assignment to PS1 in that user's ~/.bashrc
[10:02] <thune3> Jesdisciple: i think you needed the fully qualified path of "bash" as well /bin/bash. Did you try that earlier?
[10:03] <boakun> i got a printer related
[10:03] <boakun> q
[10:03] <Jesdisciple> thune3: no, and that seems bizarre although not rly unlikely
[10:03] <boakun> i dont run ubuntu, buy my printer is supported in it
[10:03] <boakun> anyway to port the driver files over
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> boakun:  most printer 'drivers' are cups drivers for linux machines... they should work on most all disrtos
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> boakun:  at least those that use cups.. (which is most)
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> boakun:  so what OS are you running?
[10:04] <boakun> gentoo linux
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> boakun:  check the cups packages.. theres proberly the drivers allready in there.
[10:04] <boakun> ive been trying for over an hr heh
[10:05] <thune3> Jesdisciple: i'm probably wrong on that one, now that i look at it further, but you have me curious now. I just don't want to log out and log back in.
[10:05] <mifadir> hello how to disable check after 30 mount
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> cups uses various .ppd files I recall for its d4rivers.. so you just need to find the proper ppd.
[10:05] <boakun> yeah i know
[10:05] <boakun> i tired the osx ppd file
[10:05] <Jesdisciple> thune3: requiring full paths seems ridiculous although I know there are odd technical difficulties involved with some apparently trivial features
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> mifadir:  disable totally or change to a higher # ? 'tune2fs' can adjust the #
[10:05] <codyc1515> hi everybody :D
[10:06] <mifadir> how to disable it totaly
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> mifadir:  tune2fs can do both
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> mifadir:  i dont reccomend disabling it totally
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> set # to 0 = disabled.. I recall
[10:07] <nailora> i am on lucid. i opened a txt file with gobby instead of gedit (nautlius->right click->open with). now it uses gobby for all txt files when double clicking in nautilus. how can i revert?
[10:08] <mifadir> and how can i disable just a part of cheking
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> nailora:  right click on a txt file --> PROPERTIES --> open with.  and select whaat you want.
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> mifadir:  tune2fs works on a per filesystem. you can disable it on whatever filesystems you want.
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> tune2fs [-c max_mounts_count]
[10:09] <thune3> mifadir: periodic checking is a good idea, if you are booting 10 times a day then making the check count larger is ok, also staggering filesystem check intervals is a good idea so they don't all happen at once.
[10:09] <nailora> Dr_Willis: thats it. incredible response time!
[10:10] <will> Is there any way to get Ubuntus' built-in "Sound Recorder" to encode to mp3?
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> nailora:  people gt confused by 2 menu items that have the same name.. but do differnt but similer things..
[10:10] <MadRobot> Man! You guys must have been suffering by these nasty spambot attacks.. :)
[10:10] <MadRobot> *from* these
[10:10] <nailora> Dr_Willis: especially because "open with" has a "remember" checkbox that is broken
[10:10] <xbonesx> so i have registered my nick. and read the email and confirmed, i have set my password in the xchat auto connect utlity ---> http://i56.tinypic.com/vzisjo.png
[10:11] <xbonesx> but i still get sent to the #ubuntu unregistered channel????
[10:11] <icarus-c> will, yes you can. select MP3 at Record as
[10:11] <will> it's not an option.  I've installed lame...?
[10:11] <mifadir> thank a lot
[10:11] <icarus-c> will, i don't know what exactly you need to have that option, but i installed all gstreamer plugins & ffmpeg
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  the 'identify' services are a little lagged.. i get sent there also.. but can then /join #ubuntu  and part that channel
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  its the lag thats the issue. it dosent happen all the time.. but it does some times for me.
[10:12] <will> icarus-c: let me try that...
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  if its a big issue.. make an alias that parts that channel and joins #ubuntu
[10:12] <v3nd3tta``> maybe he should just put his account password into the server dialogue as server password?
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> v3nd3tta``:  i auto identify.. and its a lag issue with the services.
[10:12] <xbonesx> whats the line of code to exit a channel automatically?
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> v3nd3tta``:  it happens every so often.
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  /part perhaps.. check the xchat docs.
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> xbonesx:  or /close
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> I use WeeChat
[10:13] <thune3> icarus-c: you have mp3 as an option in sound recorder?
[10:13] <icarus-c> thune3, yes sir
[10:13] <xbonesx> what do you think is better weechat or xchat?
[10:13] <v3nd3tta``> if you put your account password into the server dialogue as the server password it will even identify before joining any chans
[10:13] <Philip1> Question; Since I installed Ubuntu from Windows, the OS hasn't been able to read my user settings for my programs. Is this cause the settings are stored in my windows registry? File manager says the harddrive with my program is of the type "fuseblk". Is this a problem?
[10:13] <v3nd3tta``> it's a option to hide that (changing host) rejoining stuff
[10:14] <icarus-c> thune3, i've got m4a,  flac, ogg, mp3, wav ,spx
[10:14] <xbonesx> v3nd3tta`: ok ill try it brb
[10:14] <Jesdisciple> xbonesx: I have both actually, altho I prefer XChat
[10:15] <Jesdisciple> xbonesx: I use WeeChat when I don't have a GUI or too little RAM, or I'm fiddling with XChat itself
[10:15] <xbonesx> v3nd3tta`: worked thank you
[10:15] <v3nd3tta``> he left before that msg, do it again :P
 xbonesx: I use WeeChat when I don't have a GUI or too little RAM, or I'm fiddling with XChat itself
[10:15] <Jesdisciple> o lol
[10:16] <v3nd3tta``> xbonesx in #freenode you can ask for a cloak hiding your real ip
[10:16] <v3nd3tta``> just ask a staffer (voiced users) there for a "cloak"
[10:16] <xbonesx> Jesdisciple: kool
[10:17] <Philip1> Does anyone have an answer to my question?
[10:17] <xbonesx> v3nd3tta``: why do i want to hide my ip?
[10:17] <xbonesx> i dont have a st ip mine changes all the time
[10:17] <xbonesx> set*
[10:17] <thune3> icarus-c: doesn't it say mp2?
[10:17] <icarus-c> thune3, nope
[10:17] <xbonesx> v3nd3tta``: ?
[10:17] <v3nd3tta``> yeah, but then someone may come and ddos your real ip, i heard of such things
[10:18] <v3nd3tta``> if you say you don't need it, just let it be
[10:18] <v3nd3tta``> it's your option/opinion xbonesx
[10:18] <DiscoStew> i tried mode +x on my nickname, but that flag mode is not supported... a little bit unbelievable
[10:18] <xbonesx> v3nd3tta``: well it make any difference if my ip is always changing?
[10:18] <Jesdisciple> Philip1: surely you don't have the same programs in Windows and Ubuntu?
[10:18] <xbonesx> will*
[10:19] <will> xbonesx: yes?
[10:19] <Jesdisciple> Philip1: unless you're running them in Wine?
[10:19] <Philip1> Yeah, I'm trying to run them in Wine.
[10:19] <xbonesx> hahaha not will: lol i was correcting myslef from the "well"
[10:19] <Philip1> Although the exact same things occur when I run the program outside wine
[10:20] <Jesdisciple> Philip1: then yeah, you esentially are running a completely different Windows machine than before
[10:20] <will> lol...i really gotta change my nick.
[10:20] <v3nd3tta``> uhm you will join with xbonesx (~xbonesx@unaffiliated/xbonesx) and  not you real ip visible to all users
[10:20] <ip3t3r> hi.. i've a problem with a linksys wusb54gc v3 (black version) .. it can't connect to wpa+wpa2 key..! how can i do?
[10:20] <icarus-c> Philip1, do you realize that wine itself "simulate" a windows environment?
[10:20] <icarus-c> Philip1, sure programs run inside wine would NOT read settings/registry on your other Windows install
[10:20] <xbonesx> v3nd3tta``: will i have to do that everytime i have a new ip?
[10:20] <Jesdisciple> Philip1: I'm not sure how you can run them outside Wine...
[10:21] <v3nd3tta``> no
[10:21] <v3nd3tta``> it will be automatically
[10:21] <Philip1> not even if the settings arent stored in the registry, but in the program folder?
[10:21] <DrAllcome> Hello Everybody, looking for help! After kernelupgrade (generic 2.6.32-25.43) today do I have lost my sound (soundchip: USB Onboard Chip C-Media Electronics, Inc. CM6501). Would be great if anyone have  a idea or a link on howto trouble shoot this. THX
[10:21] <micke_fi> can i use the backup with remastersys the ubuntu 10.04 on all my hardwares at house ? (on laptop and 3 different desktop computers )it will have some stability problems ?
[10:21] <Jesdisciple> Philip1: that's on a different partition of your hard drive, seen by Linux as a different hard drive altogether
[10:22] <icarus-c> Philip1, it depends on the program. if it read settings from your user directory i.e. C:\Users\Blah\AppData  ,  you count tell wine to use that folder as user directory
[10:22] <v3nd3tta``> xbonesx it you connect it will say unafilliated/xbonesx  is now your hidden host (set by services.)
[10:22] <icarus-c> Philip1, if the program stores data at the program folder, you have to run the program there
[10:22] <Philip1> Ok... I'm not sure what to do, but for example, I want to run Call of Duty 4, my profiles should be stored in the programfolder as a data file... But when I boot the game with wine, the profile data is gone
[10:22] <xbonesx> v3nd3tta``: who was i supposed to ask?
[10:23] <icarus-c> Philip1, if the program store data in windows registry.... you may need to hack a bit to copy the same data in wine's registry
[10:23] <DiscoStew> Philip1, its not the same CoD as on Windows, you are installing new one
[10:23] <v3nd3tta``> someone with a + (voice sign), they are from freenode staff
[10:23] <Cookiemad> Hi
[10:23] <icarus-c> Philip1, i don't know how windows/COD works in detail.  but you should need to tell wine to use the Windows' user directory
[10:24] <icarus-c> Philip1, to do that,  run "winecfg"  go  Desktop Integration and link My Documents to the right place
[10:24] <icarus-c> Philip1, no gurantee it would work
[10:24] <Jesdisciple> icarus-c: Did I miss something about him copying the files over from Windows?
[10:24] <v3nd3tta``> maybe just do /msg marienz hey could you give me a unafiiliated cloak please?
[10:24] <icarus-c> Jesdisciple, he wants to run COD which is installed on WIndows drive i suppose
[10:25] <Philip1> Right ...:/ , I'm quite unsure on this, but when you refer to windows drive, do you refer to a drive with the windows file system?
[10:26] <thune3> Philip1: you installed COD in wine, or are running the an executable from your windows driver?
[10:26] <Philip1> Hello? Did I disconnect?
[10:26] <icarus-c> Philip1, yes sir.
[10:27] <icarus-c> Philip1, i was refering to Windows file system when i say Windows drive/ Windows install
[10:27] <Philip1> Ok, thune3, i installed the COD inside the C:Windows program folder, and when I run it, i right click and select open with wine
[10:28] <icarus-c> Philip1, it runs fine right?
[10:28] <icarus-c> just the user settings that is bothering you?
[10:28] <thune3> Philip1: the default "windows environment" you run in is (default but changeable) ~/.wine/
[10:29] <Philip1> but the same problem occurs I think, when I run programs from my D: drive, which I think has the same file system as my C : drive
[10:29] <DiscoStew> can he run programs installed in windows via wine?
[10:29] <Philip1> yes icarus it runs, but my profiles are gone, which are stored locally in the game folder
[10:29] <icarus-c> DiscoStew, some programs, yes
[10:29] <nightcrow> hiya
[10:29] <DiscoStew> its not same registry entries
[10:29] <icarus-c> Philip1, sure your profile is gone and i have explained why
[10:30] <Philip1> woah this is all very confusing, probably cause im not sure how wine works
[10:30] <nightcrow> i plugged in a usb disk on key, and typed 'mount' and i see this: ltspfs on /media/dovl/usbdisk-sdb1 type fuse.ltspfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=dovl)
[10:30] <nightcrow> i cant see the drive anywhere
[10:30] <thune3> i imagine that if you are just running an exe, you could run it from any location. But the idea of running INSIDE your windows installation using WINE is misguided.
[10:30] <nightcrow> can someone please tell me how to access it
[10:30] <Jesdisciple> Philip1: You seem to be thinking Wine will access your actual Windows installation
[10:30] <icarus-c> Philip1, when you run with wine,  it takes the profile from  ~/.wine  instead of Windows drive\Users\
[10:30] <icarus-c> Philip1, wine create a "simulated" windows environment in ~/.wine
[10:31] <Philip1> i see
[10:31] <micke_fi> can i use the backup with remastersys the ubuntu 10.04 on all my hardwares at house ? (on laptop and 3 different desktop computers )it will have some stability problems ?
[10:31] <Philip1> ~/.wine what does this refer to?
[10:31] <Philip1> just a virtual wine folder?
[10:31] <icarus-c> Philip1, if you want to have your profile back. you would try  to run "winecfg" -> Desktop Integration -> then link  "My Documents" to the Windows users directory
[10:31] <Jesdisciple> Philip1: it's a l;ocation in your Linux filesystem
[10:31] <icarus-c> Philip1, ~/.wine refers to the  /home/$USER/.wine
[10:32] <eWill> OK I installed gstreamer, and ffmpeg -- sound recorder still doen't have a "mp3" option.  Can anyone recomend a replacement for "Sound Recorder"  (preferably small) that will record directly to mp3?
[10:32] <imanc> hey - I have a button on the top of my touch pad which enables / disables the touch pad. When I press it, Ubuntu displays a touchpad on/off graphical message top right of the screen, but the touch pad still works when I use the button to switch it off.  Any ideas how to get this working correctly?
[10:32] <icarus-c> Philip1, you could open up nautilus file browser, press "ctrl-L"  enter "~/.wine"
[10:32] <Philip1> ok, icarus, do you think that would work even when the user settings are stored in the call of duty folder ( and not my documents)
[10:32] <thune3> icarus-c: Philip1: i think mixing your windows and wine environments is a bad idea and may lead to unexpected problems
[10:32] <icarus-c> Philip1, you mean the program folder? i don't think COD works that way
[10:33] <icarus-c> it puts user profile somewhere in  C:\Users\<YOUR_USER>  on windows
[10:33] <Philip1> ok.... so I basically have to reinstall all my windows softwares?
[10:33] <micke_fi> can i use the backup with remastersys the ubuntu 10.04 on all my hardwares at house ? (on laptop and 3 different desktop computers )it will have some stability problems ?
[10:34] <Philip1> well i did some googling, and found that the profile data ( with ranks and achievements) are stored in a data file inside the cod folder
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[10:34] <icarus-c> Philip1, that's how Wine supposed to be used, install software in Wine environment instead of running program from Windows install directly
[10:34] <dirk_> ups
[10:34] <Philip1> but the profile name, and settings are stored where you refer to icarus
[10:34] <dirk_> hi, can someone help me please with a general linux question? How can i use a while loop directly in the console without an explicit bash script?
[10:34] <Jesdisciple> Philip1: yes, that's fairly typical...  we're glad to even be able to (sometimes) do that =p
[10:34] <icarus-c> Philip1, run winecfg  -> Desktop Integration -> Link  "My Documents"  to   /your/windows/install/users/your_user_name
[10:35] <Philip1> Ok ill try that
[10:35] <icarus-c> Philip1, you know where you Windows file system is mounted right?
[10:35] <Paccez> Hi
[10:35] <Jesdisciple> hey =)
[10:36] <thune3> micke_fi: there seem to be some caveats: http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/ubuntu.html
[10:36] <Paccez> I need to resize a lot of image in one folder. I tried with: "mogrify -resize 50% *.jpg" but the resolution remain the same... Why?
[10:36] <icarus-c> dirk_, while true; do echo "like this"; done
[10:36] <icarus-c> dirk_, the console is the same as script
[10:36] <Philip1> umm how do you mean? all i know is my windows file are located in dev/sda2/media/system
[10:36] <icarus-c> dirk_, just to put  ";" where it is a new line in script
[10:36] <dirk_> ok
[10:37] <dirk_> thx
[10:37] <Philip1> icarus-c , i cant seem to browse that device in wine though :/
[10:37] <icarus-c> Philip1, so in winecfg,  Link  My Documents to  /media/system/Users/your_user_name
[10:37] <eWill> OK I installed gstreamer, and ffmpeg -- sound recorder still doen't have a "mp3" option.  Can anyone recomend a replacement for "Sound Recorder"  (preferably small) that will record directly to mp3?
[10:37] <icarus-c> if you use Windows vista/ 7
[10:37] <icarus-c> Philip1, ^^^
[10:37] <micke_fi> thune3: i am sorry. i can not understand english well. just please tell me if it is problem or not ?
[10:38] <icarus-c> Philip1, replace Users  with Documents and Settings  if is it XP or older
[10:38] <Paccez> eWill, I don't know if it works, but you can try Jokosher, I think it suits for you
[10:39] <eWill> trying....
[10:39] <icarus-c> eWill, i would rather just convert whatever format made by GNOME sound recorder to mp3 in that case
[10:39] <micke_fi> thune3: i will not install any driver new. so it is problem for me ?
[10:39] <icarus-c> eWill,  e.g.  ffmpeg -i  input.wav   -ab 128k output.mp3   # -ab specify bit rate
[10:40] <Philip1> meh it doesnt seem to work.... i guess i could boot windows instead when i want to play games...
[10:40] <Philip1> but i was atleast hoping program like jcreator (java editor) would work, since I thought like Ubuntu was related to sun softwares
[10:40] <eWill> I can convert.  What I really want though is to record directly into mp3.  I looked at Jokosher, and it looks like Audacity.  I doubt that would do it.
[10:40] <Philip1> but its not working either
[10:40] <Jesdisciple> Philip1: also a common solution... however you might want to look into PlayOnLinux
[10:40] <icarus-c> Philip1, that is not the right way to fix problem.  but i agree it is a good idea to stick to Windows to play Windows game where possible
[10:41] <icarus-c> Jesdisciple, the problem is about he wants his game profile back.
[10:41] <Philip1> yeah, but I guess thats not the easiest thing to do
[10:41] <dirk_> icarus-c : can you tell me please what's wrong with this:  test=1 while[ $test -le 1 ]; do uptime; done;
[10:42] <Jesdisciple> icarus-c: o I thought he had compatibility issues once the profile got worked out
[10:42] <thune3> micke_fi: the idea is to take a fresh install, make a few changes with a single user, and then use remastersys dist. Assuming this is relatively new install, i think you may be OK. (i don't know though. I would say you *should* try it.)
[10:42] <micke_fi> thune3 ok thank you :)
[10:43] <Paccez> anyone knows why the command: "mogrify -resize 50% *.jpg" won't work on my images?
[10:43] <absence> does anyone know what smart attribute 187 "reported uncorrectable errors" actually means? the description says number of errors that couldn't be corrected by ecc, but attribute 195 "hardware ecc recovered" and 1 "raw read error rate" has the same number
[10:44] <guitar-maniac> Hey! I'm trying to mount an -iso file to wine, i installed gmountiso, but what's the destination folder? Do i have to create one somewhere?
[10:46] <icarus-c> guitar-maniac, yes. you need to create a folder to mount thing
[10:46] <guitar-maniac> icarus-c: where i shuold creta it so that i can acces the -iso file with wine?
[10:47] <ccm1> hey all
[10:47] <ccm1> have a problem with my ati 5770 sapphire card..
[10:48] <guitar-maniac> Sorry about the typos
[10:48] <novato_br> hi, I'd like to know if anyone has link of tutorial how to make wireless conection between two notebooks by wireless
[10:48] <Katsumi32> hi ccm1 what the problem ? what driver do you use for yor card ?
[10:49] <pokoko222> I need to make changes to /etc/apt/sources.list but i cant, it says i am not authorized when i try to save
[10:49] <coerciblegerm> sudo
[10:49] <icarus-c> dirk_, i would do" TEST=1; while (( $TEST == 1 )) ; do uptime; done  "
[10:50] <pokoko222> yes but i do it in gui, how to write the thing in shell?
[10:50] <Philip1> can anyone recommend java compiler ?
[10:50] <Philip1> btw does ubuntu come with java virtual machine?
[10:50] <collabra> pokoko222: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list <----
[10:51] <icarus-c> guitar-maniac, you create the folder anywhere you want to mount the iso file to
[10:51] <icarus-c> guitar-maniac, for example  /mnt/iso
[10:52] <icarus-c> guitar-maniac, note that after you mount the iso,  you also need to run  "winecfg"  -> Drives -> Add  , to create a "drive" mapping to that mounted iso
[10:52] <collabra> pokoko222: pico is an editor,...
[10:52] <pokoko222> and <--- is?
[10:52] <Katsumi32> novato_br, try #backtrack-linux they shouold have many this sort of tools
[10:52] <pokoko222> collabra i want to add text and keep what is already there
[10:52] <guitar-maniac> Where shuold i create the folder that i mount my .iso file that Wine recognizes it?
[10:52] <pokoko222> just a one line text
[10:52] <jrib> guitar-maniac: put it in ~/.wine/drive_c/ somewhere
[10:52] <collabra> pokoko222: if you need to edit any config file or text file,... pico is what i use when running in a terminal
[10:52] <pokoko222> collabra ok but how to add text with it?
[10:52] <rww> I'd probably do "watch uptime" myself.
[10:52] <collabra> pokoko222: just place the cursor where you want the text and type
[10:52] <ccm1> just installed the drivers for the hd 5770 ...a
[10:52] <icarus-c> Philip1, ubuntu provides  Openjdk (and jre) &  sun jre/jdk
[10:53] <Jesdisciple> I just fiddled with my desktop shortcut again...   Very perplexing, I can execute it (the shortcut) in terminal and it works
[10:53] <guitar-maniac> oh ok, i'll try that, all i have to do is to mount to .iso file and then it works and i can install the software?
[10:53] <Jesdisciple> but clicking fails
[10:53] <jrib> Jesdisciple: too vague
[10:53] <jrib> !appdb | guitar-maniac
[10:53] <icarus-c> guitar-maniac, don't forget the winecfg part
[10:53] <DiscoStew> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:53] <Jesdisciple> jrib: old issue
[10:53] <Katsumi32> ccm1, where from did you get your driver ?
[10:53] <collabra> pokoko222: when you are done editing type <shift> X ,... and follow directions
[10:53] <ccm1> Katsumi32,  i used the from ati
[10:53] <jrib> Jesdisciple: ok, but if you want help now... you need to give details
[10:53] <dirk_> thx
[10:53] <collabra> pokoko222: no,...
[10:53] <Jesdisciple> jrib: desktop shortcut has command "bash ~/talk.sh"
[10:54] <collabra> pokoko222: <ctrl> X
[10:54] <ccm1> from the ati site Katsumi32
[10:54] <guitar-maniac> winecfg?
[10:54] <jrib> Jesdisciple: still too vague.  Imagine you are me
[10:54] <pokoko222> how to open a file with it collabra?
[10:54] <ccm1> i have a radeon hd 5770
[10:54] <Katsumi32> ccm1, if u have got correct catalyst the latest ver is 10.9 and it work perfect
[10:54] <collabra> pokoko222: do you know what a terminal is?
[10:54] <Jesdisciple> jrib: it works if I use "/home/user/talk.desktop"
[10:54] <Jesdisciple> jrib: just trying to understand why bash and the ~ don't work on click
[10:55] <jrib> Jesdisciple: are you trying to create a .desktop file?
[10:55] <ccm1> 10.9..yes i used that Katsumi32
[10:55] <Katsumi32> ccm1 and before u install catalyst go to hardware driovers and disable the graphic driver there
[10:55] <icarus-c> Jesdisciple, do you have the "Terminal=true" key in .desktop?
[10:55] <Jesdisciple> jrib: but they do if the shortcut (not the shell script) is excuted in terminal
[10:55] <icarus-c> guitar-maniac, run winecfg,  go Drives  tab
[10:55] <collabra> pokoko222: open a terminal,.. and just type: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:55] <ccm1> should i unistall it
[10:55] <Jesdisciple> jrib: yes, icarus-c: you lost me
[10:56] <pokoko222> collabra ok thanks did it
[10:56] <collabra> pokoko222: np
[10:56] <jrib> Jesdisciple: take two minutes organize your thoughts and write a one line explanation of what you are trying to accomplish.  Put relevant details in a pastebin so we can understand what you have attempted so far
[10:56] <Katsumi32> cmm1 just go to hardware drivers u see there graphic driver if its acivated disable it than install catalyst again
[10:56] <meeeeeeeeeee> is there some program through which i dont need to open every linux based software from comand line?
[10:56] <Katsumi32> ccm1, to install catalyst just double click on the file you downloaded than auto thats all
[10:57] <jrib> meeeeeeeeeee: erm, you have a menu at the top left of your screen in your gui
[10:57] <icarus-c> Jesdisciple, in your .desktop shortcut spec file, you need the key "Terminal=true"  when your Exec=  is a command line stuff
[10:57] <guitar-maniac> I got it to installation phase. It says i dont have enough space available for install..? I have over 150gb free space. Or do i have to give Wine space somehow?
[10:57] <jlim> g
[10:58] <ccm1> harware drivers cant find it..
[10:58] <icarus-c> meeeeeeeeeee, what Desktop environment are you using?
[10:58] <meeeeeeeeeee> jrib: yea the applications button etc
[10:58] <Klaus_Dieter> hello world
[10:58] <Jesdisciple> icarus-c: aha, it was indeed false
[10:58] <icarus-c> guitar-maniac, the "Wine space" relies in ~/.wine
[10:58] <Katsumi32> ccm1, system administration hardware drivers
[10:58] <josekillers> mk
[10:58] <jrib> meeeeeeeeeee: yes, that's how you run programs without using a terminal
[10:58] <icarus-c> guitar-maniac, at least by default
[10:58] <josekillers> Hika
[10:58] <ccm1> no there??
[10:58] <meeeeeeeeeee> jrib: but i installed some program and cant find it in any menu, read about it on google and it says u need to open it thru comand line
[10:58] <jrib> hello Klaus_Dieter
[10:58] <ccm1> not there
[10:58] <Jesdisciple> icarus-c: I thot since it didn't give an option to open with gedit that would be the solution...
[10:59] <josekillers> Hola a todos
[10:59] <Jesdisciple> icarus-c, jrib, et al: thanks =)
[10:59] <guitar-maniac> yeah, evertyhign shuold be at default settings with Wine. im trying to install it at c:/Programs etc etc but says that theres not enough space for the game
[10:59] <Jesdisciple> wouldn't*
[10:59] <icarus-c> Jesdisciple, gedit  blah.desktop
[10:59] <Katsumi32> ccm1, did you found hardware drivers? on the top of your screen is panel go to system administration hardware drivers
[10:59] <Jesdisciple> icarus-c: yeah, I did
[10:59] <icarus-c> Jesdisciple, Nautilus file browser think it is a application shortcut so it won't let you open with some other application
 meeeeeeeeeee, what Desktop environment are you using? ..... what do u mean .... m sorry for asking all these noob questions but its only my 2nd day with ubuntu (linux)
[11:00] <Jesdisciple> icarus-c: thot it was a little odd that I had to go in the backdoor tho
[11:00] <ccm1> Katsumi32, it not there..
[11:00] <ccm1> system, administration ?
[11:00] <icarus-c> meeeeeeeeeee, is there  "Applications | Places | System " panel on the top on the screen?
[11:00] <Katsumi32> ccm1,  yeah on the top of your screen u see bar where u have applications  places and syste
[11:00] <Katsumi32> ccm1,  see it ?
[11:00] <icarus-c> meeeeeeeeeee, or is there a "K" icon at the bottom left
[11:01] <jrib> meeeeeeeeeee: what program?
 no it has places system applications
[11:01] <icarus-c> meeeeeeeeeee, or else
[11:01] <pokoko222> i have installed virtual box but i dont know where it is installed and how to start it?
[11:01] <icarus-c> meeeeeeeeeee, ok you are using GNOME Desktop Environment, see System -> About GNOME
[11:01] <meeeeeeeeeee> jrib: it was some network monitor...conky also mrtg
[11:01] <Katsumi32> pokoko222, its in aplications
[11:01] <ccm1> Katsumi32, its not there.how come
[11:02] <icarus-c> meeeeeeeeeee, what sort of programs  that you want to run which you think you must run from command line?
[11:02] <pokoko222> Katsumi32 where what section?
[11:02] <Klaus_Dieter> pokoko222: which $(virtualbox) will start it
[11:02] <pokoko222> 3.2
[11:02] <icarus-c> meeeeeeeeeee, anyway, you could run program by pressing "Alt-F2"
 meeeeeeeeeee, what sort of programs  that you want to run which you think you must run from command line? ... i am not sure what you mean
[11:02] <jrib> !conky | meeeeeeeeeee
[11:02] <Katsumi32> ccm1,  go to system preferences main menu and add hardware drivers
[11:03] <Katsumi32> pokoko222, system tools
[11:03] <icarus-c> meeeeeeeeeee, didn't you asked  <meeeeeeeeeee> is there some program through which i dont need to open every linux based software from comand line?
[11:03] <meeeeeeeeeee> yes
[11:03] <icarus-c> meeeeeeeeeee, what "linux based software" were you refering to?
[11:03] <greenIT> hi, i need fast help: i have executed e2fsck on a _mounted_ device and now i can't boot ubuntu anymore
[11:03] <meeeeeeeeeee> i wanted to install a internet speed/data monitoring software
[11:04] <icarus-c> meeeeeeeeeee, and the official installation instruction tells you to do stuff in command line?
[11:04] <jrib> meeeeeeeeeee: read the conky documentation on how to set it up, then you just add it to your Startup Programs
[11:04] <pokoko222> wierd it is not there
[11:04] <pokoko222> Katsumi32>	
[11:04] <icarus-c> meeeeeeeeeee, what monitoring software precisely?
[11:04] <Katsumi32> meeeeeeeeeee,  install conky
[11:04] <Katsumi32> pokoko222, type in terminal virtualbox
[11:05] <icarus-c> meeeeeeeeeee, note there is gnome-system-monitor comes with GNOME
[11:05] <Crash2108> Cam someone explain to me why logging into SFTP as root is evil?
[11:05] <pokoko222> it says not installed but i did install it
[11:05] <greenIT> help, i used e2fsck on a _mounted_ device and now my ubuntu doesn't boot anymore, what can i do?
[11:05] <icarus-c> meeeeeeeeeee, Applications -> System Tool -> System Monitor
[11:05] <Katsumi32> pokoko222, mybe u have installed some other packages or part of the package from synaptic
[11:05] <jrib> Crash2108: it's not evil.  But people often try to brute force the root account...
[11:05] <meeeeeeeeeee> i searched for many on ubuntu software center, also asked for suggestions on dalnet's linux channel and they suggested conky, rrdtool, mrtg .... but i cant figure out any of them plus they are not wat i am looking for, i wanted something along the lines of DU-meter
[11:05] <Crash2108> I
[11:05] <icarus-c> Crash2108, you mean run sftp client as root or login to root?
[11:06] <Katsumi32> pokoko222, type sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[11:06] <pokoko222> Katsumi32 yes i installed 3.2 from virtual box home site
[11:06] <jrib> meeeeeeeeeee: what does du-meter do?
[11:06] <Crash2108> I've been told that using root is evi.
[11:06] <cyberjorge> hi, how will I view captcha in elinks?
[11:06] <Katsumi32> pokoko222, i have vbox from their web too installed it and it appered in aplications
[11:06] <Katsumi32>  pokoko222 check your systme it must be somewhere
[11:06] <jrib> Crash2108: so ask the person that told you that...?  Anyway, there's no root account by default in ubuntu and it isn't necessary either
[11:07] <jrib> erm
[11:07] <greenIT> plz, can some1 tell me what i can do when i used e2fsck on a mounted device?
it is a graphical presentation of real time internet speed...it always sits on my desktop in Xp
[11:07] <jrib> Crash2108: what I mean to say is the root account is locked by default
[11:07] <jrib> meeeeeeeeeee: that's conky... no?
[11:07] <meeeeeeeeeee> may be it is...and i installed it too but cudnt find it
[11:08] <jrib> meeeeeeeeeee: type "conky documentation" in google, you'll have to read their configuration instructions
[11:08] <skar> hi, i'm on 8.10 on my netbook, if i type "apt-get dist-upgrade" it returns without any upgrades
[11:08] <skar> Calculating upgrade... Done
[11:08] <skar> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:08] <Katsumi32> meeeeeeeeeee, type in termianl conky you will need to set conky conf file to get everything working properly
[11:08] <skar> what should i do to get to 10.04? at least 9.04?
[11:08] <meeeeeeeeeee> hmmm...m i justified to think may be ubuntu or any linux is not soo easy?
[11:08] <Katsumi32> meeeeeeeeeee, its different than win
[11:08] <icarus-c> skar, visit http://ubuntu.com
[11:09] <jrib> meeeeeeeeeee: "easy" depends on the person really
[11:09] <Katsumi32> bit more difficlut but youre human right ? so youre able to learn
[11:09] <Crash2108> I'vresrd that unlocking it makes you succeptible to hacking.
[11:09] <skar> icarus-c: do i have to install a fresh 10.04? no path via apt-get to 9.04 -> 9.10 -> 10.04?
[11:09] <cyberjorge> how do you guys view captcha in command line browsers?
[11:09] <meeeeeeeeeee> and how to open terminal?
[11:10] <jrib> meeeeeeeeeee: there's a #conky channel that can likely help you in actually configuring conky
[11:10] <jrib> meeeeeeeeeee: Accessories -> Terminal
[11:10] <meeeeeeeeeee> here at freenode?
[11:10] <jrib> meeeeeeeeeee: yes
[11:10] <Katsumi32> meeeeeeeeeee, aplications  system tools
[11:11] <ccm1> Katsumi32, done it., its not even activated
[11:12] <ccm1> this drives in not activated?
[11:12] <ccm1> driver
[11:12] <Katsumi32> ccm1,  good so double click on the file window will appear after 5 sec install it auto than reboot
[11:12] <jrib> !away > WLP|Away
[11:13] <Katsumi32> ccm1, in hardware drivers the graphic driver have to be not activated
[11:13] <meeeeeeeeeee> also some time back i read about a software through which we can run windows based softwares rite in linux envoirement?
[11:13] <ccm1> tell me..installation of this driver failed??
[11:13] <Katsumi32> yeah meeeeeeeeeee like in vbox or wmvare etc
[11:13] <ccm1> look at file for details
[11:13] <jrib> meeeeeeeeeee: wine, but it's generally a better idea to use a native linux alternative
[11:13] <allu2> Hello, my ubuntu 10.04 just freezed (well at least the cursor) but ssh works, this is not first time and i wondered if anyone would like to see what is wrong with it, (Dmesg = http://pastebin.com/MVq8GeG8 ) and (Xorg.log = http://pastebin.com/6mS4frpv )
[11:13] <WLP|Away> jrib: What?
[11:14] <jrib> WLP|Away: please see ubottu's message
[11:14] <WLP|Away> Why now?
 meeeeeeeeeee: wine, but it's generally a better idea to use a native linux alternative ... linux alternative of the windows program u mean?
[11:15] <jrib> meeeeeeeeeee: yes
[11:15] <Jesdisciple> alright, I'm back... Terminal=true didn't make a difference after all
[11:15] <Hald> Howdy folks
[11:15] <Jesdisciple> talk.desktop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/496381/
[11:15] <Jesdisciple> talk.sh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/496382/
[11:15] <jrib> Jesdisciple: take two minutes organize your thoughts and write a one line explanation of what you are trying to accomplish.  Put relevant details in a pastebin so we can understand what you have attempted so far
[11:15] <Katsumi32> Hald, only english allowed here
[11:15] <WLP|Away> jrib: Why now?
[11:15] <Hald> Katsumi32: lol, sorry
[11:15] <ccm1> Katsumi32, this is what the log has..2010-09-19 20:13:04,998 WARNING: /sys/module/fglrx/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind fglrx driver
[11:15] <Katsumi32> :) just kidding
[11:16] <WLP|Away> jrib: long time ago.
[11:16] <Katsumi32> ccm1,  see me on prv will try to help you
[11:16] <neriukas> does program go on windows vista if i witten it on win xp?
[11:16] <Jesdisciple> changing the Exec in talk.desktop to Exec=/home/chris/talk.sh works
[11:16] <jrib> Jesdisciple: yes, that's what you need to do
[11:16] <Jesdisciple> I'm just curious why clicking doesn't work as it is
[11:16] <Jesdisciple> yet executing it in terminal always works
[11:16] <guitar-maniac> How can i give more space to my drive_c in Wine?
[11:17] <Hald> I just got my upgrade to 10.4 done and every thing seams to work like dandy. Its just one thing that bothers me. The volume controle adjust 5% when scrolling. I would like it to adjust with only 1% 'per scroll'.
[11:17] <Jesdisciple> just a little puzzle we were titling our heads at earlier
[11:17] <meeeeeeeeeee> ok about this conky, isnt there some program which doesnt require comand line? i mean i m using this irc software and its installed just fine and showed up on applications...i need one such program for network monitoring?
[11:17] <Jesdisciple> tilting*
[11:17] <jrib> Jesdisciple: ~ won't be translated by whatever gnome uses to execute Exec
[11:17] <WLP|Away> jrib: I still don't understand the problem.
[11:18] <Jesdisciple> jrib: do you know why bash isn't recognized?
[11:18] <WLP|Away> All I did was use /away.
[11:18] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, u can put conky in prefered software, and then its loaded when system is up. dont need to open konsole
[11:18] <jrib> Jesdisciple: what do you mean "isn't recognized"?
[11:18] <neriukas> Does  program go on all windows if witten on c++/c?
[11:18] <neriukas> help?
[11:18] <thune3> cyberjorge: if image is available, browser might allow inspection (like "I" in w3m)
[11:18] <Jesdisciple> jrib: the command does absolutely nothing when clicked
[11:18] <jrib> Jesdisciple: yes.
 yeah but for tht i first need to install it n thts suposed to be done from comand line and i have no idea rite now how to do tht
[11:19] <Jesdisciple> jrib: if I take bash off and leave the ~, I get an error
[11:19] <xbonesx> using "vi" how do you execute multiple line from a txt being deleted???
[11:19] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, open comand line and type sudo apt-get install conky
[11:19] <Hald> neriukas: I don't think this is the right channel to ask that question but yes it should work if you got the right dlls n stuffs
[11:19] <cyberjorge> thune3: were you able to view captcha key using w3m?
[11:19] <Jesdisciple> jrib: running ./talk.desktop in terminal works just fine regardless
[11:19] <alompar> Hello, when I try to enter an account on empathy I get this " The password you use to log in to your computer no longer matches that of your login keyring." I have changed my username password. What's with this keyring?
[11:19] <neriukas> thanks hald ;)
[11:19] <jrib> Jesdisciple: because you have no such file that is literally "~talk.sh".  The Exec line is not the same as your interactive terminal.  ~ is not special there
[11:20] <thune3> cyberjorge: let me find one...one sec
[11:20] <tabuto83> hy everybody
[11:20] <cyberjorge> thune3: thanks a lot
[11:20] <tabuto83> can someone help me with grub?
[11:20] <Jesdisciple> jrib: yes, I get that - I don't wonder about the error so much as why bash doesn't do anything
[11:20] <Besogon> neriukas, I don't think so. Many of them have been written in C++ but not all work with Win7
[11:20] <Hald> Anyone know how to change gnome-volume-applets scroll adjust from 5% to 1%?
[11:20] <Jesdisciple> jrib: when it's clicked that is
 ok i did tht..n i think its installed...now wat?
[11:20] <jrib> Jesdisciple: do you agree that "bash arocehurcaoheuraoedhucgaoeudcaogeudc" as the Exec should not do anything?
[11:21] <Jesdisciple> jrib: it should pass gibberish to bash...
[11:21] <neriukas> i wont write programs on ubuntu with gnu compiler and i'll recompiler on win xp i want to know about programming for windows
[11:21] <Jesdisciple> jrib: bash doesn't seem to be called at all
[11:21] <jrib> Jesdisciple: did you see my last question?
[11:22] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, ok now u need to create conkyrc file in your home dir or to copy default conky file from /etc/conky/conky.config to home directory
[11:22] <tabuto83> do someone know the options add in the Grub2 to running ubuntu in console mode?
[11:22] <Jesdisciple> jrib: yes, and I thot of a test...
[11:22] <thune3> cyberjorge: on a particular search page (kind of a mess in w3m), i could navigate to [image] (just over Refresh Image on center right side) and hit 'I' on http://techtalk.parts-express.com/search.php?f=2
 meeeeeeeeeee, ok now u need to create conkyrc file in your home dir or to copy default conky file from /etc/conky/conky.config to home directory ... sorry but how to do that
[11:22] <Besogon> neriukas, What do you want to be listened here? e.g. write it in C++ yes
[11:23] <jrib> Jesdisciple: so what's your answer to my question?
[11:23] <cookiemad> how do i change display managers? im using gdm but i want kdm (its already installed)
[11:23] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, do u use wi-fi or your internet is via ethernet card (cable)?
[11:23] <shibin> hie am a new Ubuntu user
[11:23] <ARTSIOM> Hi! I have installed linux-source package. Replaced source codes on drivers/scsi/aacraid by sources downloaded from IBM site. The question now is how to build this specific driver - aacraid?
[11:23] <shibin> i need some help
[11:23] <Jesdisciple> jrib: clicking a shortcut with that command (yours) should pass gibberish to bash for execution
[11:23] <cookiemad> how do i change display managers? im using gdm but i want kdm (its already installed)
[11:24] <tabuto83> shibin, tell us more!!!
[11:24] <tabuto83> :)
[11:24] <shibin> :)
my internet is connected to a router, and via tht router pc is connected thru ethernet
[11:24] <xbonesx> how do you delete multiple lines form a txt document using "vi"?
[11:24] <Jesdisciple> jrib: I modified the clickable command to &> output
[11:24] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, ok, wait a sec now
[11:24] <neriukas> ok, besogon, does programs run on windows vista or 7 if i'll compiler soft on win xp on c language?
[11:24] <shibin> am using ubuntu net book edition
[11:24] <xbonesx> rather than pressing "d" repeatedly?
[11:24] <cyberjorge> thune3: thanks, i'll try it too
[11:24] <shibin> my display driver is not working
[11:24] <Jesdisciple> jrib: the output file is not created, so apparently the command is not being run at all
[11:24] <shibin> dats the prob now.
[11:25] <pokoko222> http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3461/screenshotvjr.png i have virtualbox installed and still when i call virtualbox from terminal i get message that it is not installed and that i need to install virtualbox-os
[11:25] <tabuto83> which netbook have u?
[11:25] <Jesdisciple> jrib: course I might be forgetting redirection syntax
[11:25] <Jesdisciple> jrib: checking now
[11:25] <shibin> dell inspiron mini
[11:25] <jrib> Jesdisciple: run "bash raocheurcaoherchaorchaoercuh" in your terminal
[11:26] <tabuto83> and which version of linux?
[11:26] <shibin> 10.04 netbook remix
[11:26] <Jesdisciple> jrib: bash: raocheurcaoherchaorchaoercuh: No such file or directory
[11:26] <Besogon> neriukas, definetly not surely
[11:26] <Jesdisciple> jrib: yes, I expect that to be output...
[11:26] <jrib> Jesdisciple: where exactly?
[11:27] <Jesdisciple> jrib: pardon?
[11:27] <jrib> Jesdisciple: where exactly do you expect to see the output?
[11:27] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, u still there?
[11:27] <meeeeeeeeeee> yeah
[11:27] <Jesdisciple> jrib: in the redirected file, once I'm sure I have my redirection syntax correct
[11:28] <Hald> Anyone know how to change gnome-volume-applets scroll adjust from 5% to 1%?
[11:28] <jrib> Jesdisciple: as I said Exec is not bash
[11:28] <DiscoStew> ok meeeeeeeeeee here is my conky config file, with a little change so u can run it http://paste.ubuntu.com/496388/
[11:28] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, open gedit and paste that code
[11:28] <Besogon> neriukas, But you can write in on Python or some other script language or Java. This languages don't depend on comilation.
[11:28] <pokoko222> why does virtualbox installation fail? http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/6430/screenshot1qn.png
[11:29] <Jesdisciple> jrib: well, when I did it without bash - that is, ~/talk.sh
[11:29] <jrib> Jesdisciple: yes?
[11:29] <Jesdisciple> jrib: it popped up an error dialog
[11:29] <neriukas> besogon thanks dude :D
 ok pasted on gedit
[11:29] <Jesdisciple> jrib: with bash, I don't even see that
[11:29] <wazok> Hello,
[11:29] <wazok> wonder if anyone could possibly help?
[11:30] <alompar> Hello, I have changed my username's password and when I whant to connect an account on empathy I get this message:"The password you use to log in to your computer no longer matches that of your login keyring."
[11:30] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, save that file as .conkyrc (watch for dot in front of name) and save it in your /home/user_name/ folder
[11:30] <alompar> Why?
[11:30] <jrib> Jesdisciple: because it couldn't find the command "~/talk.sh".  On the other hand, the bash command runs fine.  You can check if the output goes to ~/.xsession-errors, but I'm not sure if it does.  The output will just be bash telling you there's no such file as "~/talk.sh", taking the ~ literally
[11:30] <Katsumi32> pokoko222, did you install vbox from their web?
[11:31] <pokoko222> Katsumi32 no i used apt-get
 did tht
[11:31] <shibin> display driver not getting in my netbook, can any one help me out?
[11:32] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, ok lets now execute that file via console to check is everything ok, and do u like it
[11:32] <meeeeeeeeeee> ok am ready .. tell me
[11:33] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, ok u are in console, just type conky -d -c /home/user_name/conky
[11:33] <DiscoStew> sorry
[11:33] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, ok u are in console, just type conky -d -c /home/user_name/.conkyrc
 aaah how do i open console again?
[11:33] <nailora> i am looking for a simple graphical text editor (like gedit) that supports search&replace with regexen, maybe even a gedit plugin
[11:33] <pokoko222> Katsumi32 when i try to install from their web i get this http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/74/screenshot2tu.png
[11:33] <jrib> Jesdisciple: you can try running in a terminal: bash '~/talk.sh'  .  That's what is happening.
[11:33] <meeeeeeeeeee> is console same as terminal?
[11:33] <DiscoStew> Applications - Accesories - Console
[11:33] <DiscoStew> yes
[11:35] <blackstar> hello everyone, anyone know how to flash a android phone under ubuntu
[11:35] <jrib> nailora: http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins
[11:35] <Katsumi32> pokoko222, join #vbox
 ok it pretty much does wat i want .. shows me the download and upload rate .. but unit is bytes, can i change it to kilobytes?
[11:36] <allu2> if noone answered my question +15 mins ago can i say it again? :P
[11:36] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, it goes to Kb/s automatically when download/upload rate is that much
[11:36] <Katsumi32> allu2, sure
[11:36] <allu2> Hello, my ubuntu 10.04 just freezed (well at least the cursor) but ssh works, this is not first time and i wondered if anyone would like to see what is wrong with it, (Dmesg = http://pastebin.com/MVq8GeG8 ) and (Xorg.log = http://pastebin.com/6mS4frpv )
[11:36]  * ph0n7r1c hello anyone installed beEf the xss framework
 also can i make it float? as in drag it where ever i want on desktop
[11:36] <Phr3ak_> hi there !!
[11:36] <allu2> Katsumi32, perhaps i have better luck this time :P
[11:37] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, no, in config file u define where it stands, alignments top_left is in this case, u can change it
[11:37] <Chris_Jesdiscipl> jrib: that's very interesting behavior...  I'm somewhat surprised that, as you say, Exec is not bash
[11:37]  * ph0n7r1c i am having problem installing it
and is it possible to minimize it?
[11:37] <blackstar> hello everyone, anyone know how to flash a android base  phone under ubuntu ???
[11:37] <Chris_Jesdiscipl> oops, lost my nick
[11:37] <Chris_Jesdiscipl> sec
[11:37] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, nope... it always stands on desktop like that, u can only kill it... open terminal and type killall conky
[11:38] <meeeeeeeeeee> and for bottom rite the command would be alignment bottom_right ?
[11:38] <DiscoStew> yes
[11:38] <DiscoStew> u defines that in .conkyrc file
[11:38] <DiscoStew> define*
[11:39] <meeeeeeeeeee> ok...and if i want it always to load with system/
[11:39] <Katsumi32> allu2, is there anything in hardware drivers to activate ?
[11:39] <meeeeeeeeeee> ?
[11:39] <blackstar> hello everyone, anyone know how to flash a android base  phone under ubuntu desktop???
[11:39] <DiscoStew> that a little bit tricky, i will show u if u want
[11:39] <allu2> Katsumi32, ?
[11:39] <allu2> Katsumi32, what do you mean?
[11:39] <Katsumi32> system administration hardware drivers
[11:39] <wieshka> hey folks - maybe somebody has experience how to connect to unsecured wireless network automaticaly if no predefinied ssecured networks found? i am using wicd instead of network-manager
[11:40] <allu2> Katsumi32, ah nope
 yes please...also a noob question...should i make a backup copy of this .conkyrc file?
[11:40] <allu2> Katsumi32, it's Omnibook Xe3-GF
[11:40] <mayamojo1> hello
[11:40] <blackstar> hello everyone, anyone know how to flash a android base  phone under ubuntu desktop? is there any GUI app that can help?
[11:40] <allu2> Katsumi32, with intel graphix
[11:40] <ccm1> Katsumi32,  hey still the same
[11:41] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, i dont know, it depends on you, im changing it alot, so i always have a backup, if someone is not working in new code, but if you dont change conky config no need for backup
[11:41] <wieshka> also i have problem - how can i fully disable login (enable auto login) - i have it disabled via preferneces (GUI), but sometimes it still shows up login
[11:41] <_ting_> hello
[11:41] <allu2> Katsumi32, i installed 10.04 on it when 10.10 supported only vesa drivers and didn't support omnibook module out of box
[11:41] <_ting_> could anyone help to make my hdmi audio works?
[11:41] <_ting_> i am a newbie in linux so.....
[11:41] <Katsumi32> allu2, nothing in hardware drivers to activate?
[11:42] <allu2> Katsumi32, not that i remember (can't watch now)
i think i should just in case..m very new to linux so i mite need to...but u plz tellme how to make it open with system every time
[11:42] <v3nd3tta``> _ting_ what auto driver you are running?
[11:42] <_ting_> let me check it
[11:42] <Ubuwhat> Hello!
[11:43] <mayamojo1> hello!
[11:43] <_ting_> v3nd3tta``, nvidia_current
[11:43] <Ubuwhat> i need some support with Sane
[11:43] <blackstar> hello everyone, anyone know how to flash a android base  phone under ubuntu desktop? is there any GUI app that can help?
[11:44] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, first we need to create a conkystart file, in that file we will define conky start with a 10 second after system (sometimes gets messy if u dont do that)... Open gedit and paste this into it, call it conkystart or what ever u want http://paste.ubuntu.com/496394/
[11:44] <v3nd3tta``> but nvidia is not for audio, it's for video... what you want to do? get audio working or play around with vidoe settings _ting_ ?
[11:44] <ccm1> still the same.X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[11:45] <_ting_> i wanna play a video on the tv and listen the audio also in the tv
[11:45] <meeeeeeeeeee> should i save it in home/username/?
[11:45] <DiscoStew> yes
[11:45] <_ting_> it was working before i updated my linux from 9.04 to 10.04
[11:46]  * v3nd3tta`` :? *confused* what about plugging audio cable output into tv's input?
[11:46] <meeeeeeeeeee> ok did tht
[11:46] <Ubuwhat> Hi all. Iv'e Just bought a new scanner for our group - Unless Im going to find a way to make it work with sane they going to force DUAL BOOT
[11:46] <_ting_> v3nd3tta``, the point is that now i can find my nvdia hdmia audio in the sound audio panel
[11:46] <_ting_> v3nd3tta``, it is already connected (the cable)
[11:47] <blackstar> DiscoStew ..... do know ant app that can run under ubuntu ti flash back a android phone back to stock??
[11:47] <nailora> jrib: thx for gedit plugins
[11:47] <v3nd3tta``> and it doesn't work?
[11:47] <jrib> Ubuwhat: but you checked that it was well-supported in sane /before/ buying it right? :P
[11:47] <DiscoStew> blackstar, no sorry, i dont have android phone...
[11:47] <FusionX> Guys help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577035 HELP ME PLZ!
[11:47] <v3nd3tta``> do you have generally no sound or just no tv sound?
[11:47] <_ting_> no no
[11:48] <_ting_> v3nd3tta``, let me explain myself again, hhehe
[11:48] <Ubuwhat> jrib: ofcourse
[11:48] <blackstar> DiscoStew ..... tks
[11:48] <_ting_> my english is a little bit rusty
[11:48] <v3nd3tta``> are you german? :P
[11:48] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, ok u need to help me a little bit on this now, im not using same graphical enviroment like you...
[11:48] <v3nd3tta``> ah no
[11:48] <blackstar> anyone knows any app that can run under ubuntu ti flash back a android phone back to stock??
[11:48] <v3nd3tta``> .es :(
[11:49] <|Gaijin|> whats the command for fixing the errors apt gives when you have uncompleted instals?
[11:49] <_ting_> hehe, no, i am spaniard. ummmm.... why do you say that i am german? i sound rude?
[11:49] <_ting_> hehe
[11:49] <meeeeeeeeeee> by the way discostew ... i think this conky is a bit confused...the download speed is being shown as up and upload speed is being shown as downlaod
[11:49] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, on top u have Preferences, click on that and find in menu Prefered Applications
[11:49] <meeeeeeeeeee> ok
[11:49] <_ting_> I was kiding ;-)
[11:49] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, argh probably i didnt write it down good, it was on serbian so i quickly translated it
[11:50] <meeeeeeeeeee> ok, i m in preferred apps
[11:50] <DiscoStew> we will edit that
[11:50] <meeeeeeeeeee> ok
[11:50] <DiscoStew> ok now, in pref apps u have add click on it, call it conky start and browse to file conkystart you made
[11:51] <JohnHeikkila> Anyone familiar with an error "md_request: i/o error. dev f40 sector 0"
 there is no 'add' in pref apps
[11:52] <jrib> !sane | Ubuwhat
[11:52] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, on the right side, add, edit...
[11:52] <wazok> hello, wonder if you could help, got ubuntu running of cd on a mac and i am trying to get my mac files from it, but cant seem to find them. any ideas?
[11:52] <spanther> I've tried to boot ubuntu maverick 10.10 with my live usb stick i386 image i downloaded today. It was written with Unetbootin newest version actually (485?) and while booting on my ASUS eeePC 1005p I everytime get an error: "No init found. Try passing init= bootarg." and it shows a BusyBox (initramfs) with a cursor waiting for input
[11:53] <jrib> !maverick | spanther
[11:53] <spanther> thx jrib
[11:53] <Mike1474337> hi
[11:53] <meeeeeeeeeee> nah..not there...also i clicked on show desktop and i cant find conky now
[11:54] <Mike1474337> im acceasij feom m mobie
[11:54] <Mike1474337> gffhhvgguh
[11:54] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, what ubuntu u have, 10.04?
[11:54] <Mike1474337> sddfhhhftfuoihr
[11:55] <wazok> hello, wonder if you could help, got ubuntu running of cd on a mac and i am trying to get my mac files from it, but cant seem to find them. any ideas?
[11:55] <Mike1474337> mnbcstuirbgss
[11:55] <Mike1474337> wazok
[11:55] <meeeeeeeeeee> yes
[11:55] <wazok> ye
[11:55] <Mike1474337> wazok hi
[11:55] <wazok> hi
[11:55] <Mike1474337> say my name
[11:56] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, wait a sec
[11:56] <wazok> Mike1474337 hi
[11:56] <Mike1474337> nice
[11:56] <anxiolytic> I have an external HD. What file system is reliable and has read/write support in OS X, Linux and Windows?
[11:56] <Mike1474337> yhe apo works fine
[11:56] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, sorry my fault, we dont need pref apps :(
[11:57] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, system->preferences->session->startup programs and there u will have add :)
[11:57] <Mike1474337> bgggfffwqqgjhvfoyhj
[11:57] <DiscoStew> sorry for mistake
[11:57] <rawky> hey guys, i need a gui ftp app to drag files from a mobile me account down for editing, would you recommend anything please?
[11:57] <Mike1474337> ghgghgggggjkkswdhib
[11:57] <Mike1474337> rawky ho
[11:57] <DiscoStew> anxiolytic, what windows?
[11:57] <jrib> rawky: nautilus, the default file manager
[11:57] <tensorpudding> anxiolytic: NTFS is supported in all three
[11:58] <Mike1474337> rawky hoiiiuu
[11:58] <tensorpudding> anxiolytic: natively in Windows, and with NTFS-3g in OSX and linux
[11:58] <rawky> cheers jrib
[11:58] <tensorpudding> anxiolytic: only available for Intel macs though
[11:58] <anxiolytic> what about only between os x (intel) and linux
[11:58] <Mike1474337> rawky hhgdcvvvawwr
[11:59] <Mike1474337> kallel hiiii
[11:59] <c3l> my cron keeps sending mails to me when the scripts have run, even though ive added " >/dev/null" to the end of the line. what am I doing wrong?
[12:00] <jouyt> hello, does anyone know how to use upnp?
[12:00] <tensorpudding> anxiolytic: maybe still NTFS
[12:01] <ccm1> hey
[12:01] <tensorpudding> anxiolytic: there is some HFS+ support in Linux, but I don't know how good it is
[12:01] <ccm1> getting this eror when installing driver for the hd 5770 graphics card
[12:01] <anxiolytic> tensorpudding: right now it's read-only for journaled hfs it seems
[12:01] <ccm1> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[12:02] <anxiolytic> I guess I can go with ext3 and use MacFUSE
[12:02] <ccm1> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[12:02] <tensorpudding> anxiolytic: it depends on which platform you would mind less being saddled with half-assed FUSE support
[12:02] <meeeeeeeeeee> discostew: ok m there...
[12:02] <jouyt> so does anyone know how to use upnp??
[12:02] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, ok did u added conkystart?
[12:03] <_ting_> i am sorry, could anyone helpme?
[12:03] <anxiolytic> tensorpudding: yeah. ill play around with macfuse to see how it is. thanks
[12:03] <meeeeeeeeeee> nah
[12:03] <_ting_> I am trying to make my nvidia hdmi audio working
[12:03] <AbhiJit> _ting_, ask
[12:03] <Teclys> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 on a laptop with an ati radeon graphics card, and periodically the screen becomes ridiculously pixelated and distorted, like so: http://goo.gl/YD6G    Does anyone have any idea why this might be happening?
[12:03] <AbhiJit> !nvidia | _ting_
[12:04] <meeeeeeeeeee> discostew: so in name i add conkystart and comand i locate to tht gedit file and wat abt comment?
[12:04] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, ok click on add, name put conky start, path to script is path to conkystart file we created
[12:04] <_ting_> i can find the audio card in the alsamixer but it says that this device has not any controls
[12:04] <tensorpudding> it's kinda sad that Linux doesn't have full UFS2 support, since it's both open-source and natively supported by OSX and FreeBSD
[12:04] <_ting_> thanks
[12:04] <meeeeeeeeeee> ok did tht
[12:04] <meeeeeeeeeee> :>
[12:04] <DiscoStew> ok click on OK, thats it
[12:04] <Scott__2> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop but now it won't pick up any wireless networks. any ideas?
[12:04] <meeeeeeeeeee> kool
[12:04] <DiscoStew> we need just a few things more to do
[12:05] <meeeeeeeeeee> now one more thing...where did the conky go when i click show desktop? i cant find it
[12:05] <DiscoStew> it goes sometimes like that...
[12:05] <DiscoStew> God knows where
[12:05] <DiscoStew> :)
[12:05] <allu2> repeating my question
[12:05] <allu2> Hello, my ubuntu 10.04 just freezed (well at least the cursor) but ssh works, this is not first time and i wondered if anyone would like to see what is wrong with it, (Dmesg = http://pastebin.com/MVq8GeG8 ) and (Xorg.log = http://pastebin.com/6mS4frpv )
[12:05] <meeeeeeeeeee> ok wat else need to b done?\
[12:06] <DiscoStew> Go in Places-Home right click on conkystart - Properties and then on tab Permissions, there check box Allow this file to be run as program
[12:07] <ccm1> getting this error..could someone help
[12:07] <ccm1> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[12:07] <ibizatryx> hi all, i'm having major issues trying to use the ubuntu software center
[12:07] <DiscoStew> ccm1, im reading you, but dont know how to help you
[12:07] <ibizatryx> it never allows me to download anything
[12:07] <ibizatryx> well install
[12:07] <ccm1> yeah i cannot install the ati drivers..
[12:07] <ash4li> what is the name of the emacs package for 10.04?
[12:08] <jrib> ibizatryx: does it tell you why?
[12:08] <DiscoStew> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/emacs
[12:08] <jrib> ash4li: apt-cache search -n emacs
[12:09] <towe> guten tag
[12:09] <cookiemad> Hi. I have no sound whatsoever on Kubuntu 10.04. Can anyone suggest anything?
[12:09] <jrib> !sound > cookiemad
[12:10] <meeeeeeeeeee> discostew: done tht
[12:10] <DiscoStew> ok meeeeeeeeeee now restart pc and 10 seconds after system is booted, conky should show up
[12:10] <meeeeeeeeeee> ok...thanx alot disco
[12:10] <DiscoStew> im going to eat, be back later
[12:10] <meeeeeeeeeee> you are great
[12:11] <meeeeeeeeeee> just one more q b4 u go
[12:11] <DiscoStew> shoot
[12:11] <meeeeeeeeeee> how to again open conky or any other program after it disapears when i minimize it?
[12:11] <DiscoStew> it shouldnt disappear when u minimize it...
[12:12] <actionParsnip> meeeeeeeeeee: you should have an item on your gnome bar which wil allow you to remaximise apps which are minimised
[12:12] <meeeeeeeeeee> this is the 2nd prog to disappear, earliar this morning amsn disappeared when i click 'minimize to tray'
[12:12] <DiscoStew> for conky u can always take code from conkystart file we created, that part conky -d -c ~/.conkyrc
[12:12] <actionParsnip> meeeeeeeeeee: right click panel -> add item  then add the windows list item, should show your runninmg tasks
[12:13] <meeeeeeeeeee> thanx alot guys
[12:13] <meeeeeeeeeee> discostew..do u have some website?
[12:14] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, nope...
[12:14] <ash4li> what is the difference between vi and vim editor?
[12:14] <ph0n7r1c> vi i think is command like and vim is gui
[12:14] <meeeeeeeeeee> ok...me signing out now...i think i mite just be able to get the hang of ubuntu...thanx alot guys
[12:14] <actionParsnip> ash4li: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAdvanced_vi.html
[12:14] <younder> Sigh! I kept getting fork: resource temporarily unavailable. I thought it was the kernel update.. Then it dawned on me I have bastille allow setting the max user process number  to 150!
[12:14] <Cynope> Hey guys, anyone familiar with setting up a local repository?
[12:14] <DiscoStew> meeeeeeeeeee, no prob, enjoy :)
[12:14]  * DiscoStew not here
[12:15] <ph0n7r1c> yeah ubuntu is the boom
[12:15] <ph0n7r1c> i think is the best thing that has happen to the linux community
[12:15] <jouyt> so does anyone know how to use upnp¿?¿
[12:15] <aeon-ltd> ash4li, ph0n7r1c there both cli, i think vi is just simpler, has less options -- e.g. syntax highlight iirc
[12:15] <younder> So back to /etc/security/limits.conf and set soft 200 hard 400 and lo and behold the problem went away..
[12:15] <tensorpudding> ash4li: vim is an enhanced vi
[12:15] <aeon-ltd> jouyt: universal plug and play?
[12:16] <jouyt> aeon-ltd: yep
[12:16] <jouyt> i want to make my laptop accesible from everywhere
[12:16] <aeon-ltd> jouyt: err, it just happens?, i'm not sure about ubuntu but i think udev handles it
[12:17] <jouyt> redirecting a port from outside to my computer in every site i connect
[12:17] <younder> I should probably port bastille to ubuntu.. The current version of tools  like tripwire and bastille are set up for debian.
[12:17] <aeon-ltd> jouyt: wait please explain more, cos i don't think you mean upnp
[12:17] <jouyt> i thought it was upnp,-.- ok,
[12:17] <aeon-ltd> jouyt: i think you mean vpn
[12:18] <younder> Anyone know if anyone else is working on this?
[12:18] <aeon-ltd> !vpn | jouyt
[12:18] <jouyt> it is not vpn
[12:18] <progre55> hi guys! I tried to update the ati drivers to 10.9, but it seems I've totally screwed it up. after a reboot, lcpci shows I'm not using fglrx anymore, and the ati proprietary drivers were not activated. Tried to activate them, but getting an error saying "Sorry, installation of this driver failed". Any suggestions, please?
[12:18] <jouyt> i think
[12:18] <aeon-ltd> jouyt: are you sure, cos you described routing connections through your laptop?, that could be VPN or SSH tunneling
[12:19] <jouyt> what i want, is to always make my laptop accesible by opening a port direct from the internet to my computer
[12:19] <jouyt> anywhere i am connected to
[12:19] <aeon-ltd> jouyt: you mean to control your laptop from anywhere theres internet?
[12:20] <jouyt> without connecting to anywhere
[12:20] <jouyt> aeon-ltd: yep
[12:20] <aeon-ltd> !vnc | jouyt
[12:20] <jouyt> but for that, the laptop must login somewhere
[12:20] <progre55> the logs say "WARNING: modinfo for module fglrx failed: ERROR: modinfo: could not find module fglrx". How do you enable it?
[12:21] <jouyt> and what i want, is as i do at home, i open port 22 and accept incomming connections
[12:21] <aeon-ltd> jouyt: thats ssh
[12:21] <Name141> how do I force acpi ?  /boot/grub/grub.cfg tells me not to edit it
[12:21] <aeon-ltd> !ssh | jouyt
[12:21] <actionParsnip> jouyt: if you forward the ports of the services you want to connect to, to the laptop's IP (I suggest you use a static IP) then you can connect to it from anywhere using your WAN IP
[12:22] <actionParsnip> jouyt: you can see your wan IP by visiting http://www.ipchicken.com
[12:22] <jouyt> if u try to do that, and port 22 isnt opened IN THE ROUTER connection will go nowhere
[12:23] <jouyt> so what i want is to open port generically
[12:23] <jouyt> and redirect it to my computer
[12:23] <AbhiJit> is access ubuntu ext4 from vista is stable now? or still it causes ubuntu destruction?
[12:23] <Name141> oh it looks like I edit /etc/default/grub instead
[12:23] <FSHero> Greetings all. Is anyone able to explain why the legacy SerialMonkey drivers for Ralink wireless cards were discontinued -- yet in Ubuntu 10.04 my rt2570 chipset card still doesn't work out of the box?
[12:24] <Name141> I'm assuming making: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" , into GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=force" ?
[12:24] <m_fulder> hello
[12:25] <progre55> hey guys, how to install the fglrx module?
[12:25] <m_fulder> I've been running ubuntu at my comp for a while now
[12:25] <Name141> then I guess I run update-grub ..
[12:25]  * Name141 shrugs
[12:25] <m_fulder> but now when I try to boot I get the error message : Error: no such device: XXXXXX-XXXX....
[12:25] <m_fulder> why is that? :(
[12:25] <AbhiJit> :/
[12:25] <AbhiJit> ??????????????????????
[12:25] <kpkarl> progre55: use the hardware drivers application
[12:26] <kpkarl> you can find it in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[12:26] <m_fulder> then I get the grub rescue>  line ... what should I do to boot properly??
[12:26] <progre55> kpkarl: it cannot install it.. failing with an error "Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log"
[12:26] <aeon-ltd> !enter | m_fulder
[12:26] <actionParsnip> jouyt: you will open port 22 TCP and forward it to the IP of the laptop on port 22. This will push the connection through, the traffic would normally be dropped due to the nature of NAT
[12:27] <progre55> kpkarl: and the log shows "WARNING: modinfo for module fglrx failed: ERROR: modinfo: could not find module fglrx"
[12:27] <kpkarl> progre55: oh, is that all it shows?
[12:27] <jouyt> actionParsnip: yes, i know i can do it manually, but if u are in... for example a bar, u wont be able to do that
[12:27] <Name141> and it powers off correctly now
[12:27] <Name141> sweet
[12:28] <progre55> kpkarl: the hardware installation? yeah, and the log shows a bunch of ther debug stuff, and also "WARNING: /sys/module/fglrx/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind fglrx driver"
[12:28] <PedroPT> good morning
[12:28] <m_fulder> ok sry aeon-ltd... will retype again then: When I try to bootup on my ubuntu comp. I get the error message : Error: no such device: XXX-XXX... and then there's a "grub rescue>" line shown ... how do I solve this?
[12:28] <actionParsnip> jouyt: wont be able to do what? Configure the forward or access the forwarding?
[12:29] <mmm4m5m> Hi all. Is there any specifics for moving /var to separate partition? Sorry for abstract question - I did read how to move /home /usr /var /tmp... but I also found in google reports that there are problems after moving /var directory
[12:29] <Scott__2> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop but now it won't pick up any wireless networks. any ideas?
[12:29] <kpkarl> progre55: ok, and you have the restricted repository enabled?
[12:29] <actionParsnip> Scott__2: run: sudo lshw -C network   websearch for the product line to find guides
[12:29] <progre55> kpkarl: yep
[12:29] <jouyt> actionParsnip: do u know logmein? I want to do something like that, but, ssh
[12:29] <PedroPT> (can't remember last time i used irc)
[12:30] <kpkarl> progre55: then I'm not really sure what it could be. Try downloading and installing the driver from ATi's website
[12:30] <actionParsnip> jouyt: i've heard of it, you can access vnc through ssh to add security as VNC has zero security
[12:30] <progre55> kpkarl: actually everything was fine, until I decided to update the ati drivers to 10.9 and after a reboot I got this problem..
[12:30] <progre55> kpkarl: let me try to re-install it..
[12:30] <wieshka> ok - question - i have disabled pasword prompt for bootup - made auto login for my desktop user, but sometimes it still asks for login prompt, but i have to be for 100% sure, that my desktop will load with out any password prompt
[12:31] <kpkarl> progre55: ok
[12:31] <jouyt> actionParsnip: the idea is to just do ssh
[12:31] <wieshka> maybe there is tip/trick for that ?
[12:31] <wieshka> the reason why i need this, is that one of my PCs dont have any input devices
[12:31] <wieshka> and some custom desktop applications runs on bootup
[12:31] <babtux> how can set dns on my internet connection?
[12:32] <actionParsnip> jouyt: you can launch X based apps via SSH, they wil be running on the server system be displayed on the client
[12:33] <actionParsnip> jouyt: if you run: ssh -X user@server    you can launch X based apps from the terminal (suffic the commands with an ampersand so you get console control back)
[12:33] <actionParsnip> jouyt: what sort of activities with you do on the remote system? Many apps have a web interface
[12:33] <jouyt> actionParsnip: I know, but I dont want ANY x11 app
[12:34] <Roflmaobaobao> Hello for install a compilator in ubuntu 8 apt-get install build-essential ?
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> Roflmaobaobao:  yes.
[12:34] <Roflmaobaobao> root@189107:~# apt-get install build-essential
[12:34] <Roflmaobaobao> Reading package lists... Done
[12:34] <Roflmaobaobao> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:34] <Roflmaobaobao> E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[12:34] <FloodBot2> Roflmaobaobao: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:34] <actionParsnip> jouyt: then what do you need?
[12:34] <Roflmaobaobao> give me this problem
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> wieshka:  you could set the user to not have a password. so even if it ever asks . they just hit enter.
[12:34] <actionParsnip> Roflmaobaobao: run: sudo apt-get update    first
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> !b-e
[12:35] <actionParsnip> !info build-essential | Roflmaobaobao
[12:35] <AbhiJit> IdleOne, you there?
[12:35] <wieshka> Dr_Willis: it isnt solution - i have no input devices for that PC
[12:35] <wieshka> so hiting enter isnt a option
[12:35] <jouyt> actionParsnip: so what i need is to make a laptop computer allways accesible on the internet wherever it is
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> wieshka:  so its mouse only? or what exactly?
[12:35] <wieshka> tb solution
[12:35] <wieshka> Dr_Willis: it is with all inputs locked
[12:36] <wieshka> modprobe -r usbhid
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> wieshka:  so whats its doing then?
[12:36] <Scott__2> actionParsnip, thanks, it did work last time i installed ubuntu so i was wondering if i'd missed something obvious
[12:36] <Guest58962> ciao
[12:36] <nuuub> hi, in a kernel update yesterday then system went down... when i turned the pc on again, updates were givin a ppa 404 error(i solved by unchecking the ppa) but now i dont have acess to ubuntu updates and 2 . when i access hardware toolkit, it says that i dont have the propietary drivers...but only that , all fields are blank...and i tried to install nvidia-current manually, i got a blank screen with a white fixed underscore in the top
[12:36] <Guest58962> !list
[12:36] <AbhiJit> if i install previous version of kernel. then boot into taht kernel then remove the current latest kernel and then upgrade ubuntu. will it solve my sound problem?
[12:36] <wieshka> basicly it runs gnome desktop and shows up my custom software
[12:36] <actionParsnip> jouyt: you can with ssh etc, you can then not store your password to improve security etc.
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> wieshka:  so basically its running a video player?  or somthing..
[12:36] <actionParsnip> Scott__2: what is the product line of the wifi?
[12:36] <Roflmaobaobao> KK TY
[12:37] <wieshka> Dr_Willis: not really, but idea is very close to that
[12:37] <Roflmaobaobao> *kk ty ( sorry for caps )
[12:37] <Scott__2> actionParsnip, VT6102 [Rhine-II]
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> wieshka:  check the foruims for koisk (ksoisk?) guides
[12:37] <wieshka> kiosk ?
[12:37] <actionParsnip> Scott__2: thats the ethernet, not wireless
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> stand alone pc that just runs an app/advertisement/mall type thing..
[12:38] <Scott__2> actionParsnip, oh, well i can't see anything else apart from that
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> You can set gdm to login with no pass.. and always auto-log back in on crash..
[12:38] <AbhiJit> how to install previous version of kernel?
[12:38] <jouyt> actionParsnip: no i cant, for that, I had to configure my router specifically for that
[12:38] <AbhiJit> what is the command?
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> you could even make some sort of cron job that reboots the pc, or restarts X if it sees yur app isent running..
[12:38] <actionParsnip> Scott__2: make sure the killswitch for the wifi is set to on and reboot the PC. You can rerun the command to see if its picked up. You may also want to then run:   dmesg | less    to see if the chip was picked up during boot
[12:39] <Scott__2> ok
[12:39] <actionParsnip> jouyt: well yeah, any connection needs configuring. The nature of nat drops any unwanted connections which is why a router acts like a firewall
[12:39] <jouyt> AbhiJit: is a word or combination of words that written in a interpretator, makes somethig
[12:39] <AbhiJit> cant i install a kernel like we install aps? e.g. sudo apt-get install vlc? can i?
[12:40] <nuuub> can i reinstall ubuntu and keep files and settings?
[12:40] <jouyt> actionParsnip: thats the point, i want to configure nat automatically or comething
[12:40] <neekers> in the sshd_config file, there is a line ->  %h/.ssh/authorized_keys, what does the %h stand for?
[12:40] <jouyt> nuuub: u can, but if u have ur home directory in a diferent partition, if not
[12:41] <jrib> neekers: man sshd_config says  %h is replaced by the home directory of the user being authenticated
[12:41] <neekers> ahh, thank you
[12:41] <jouyt> nuuub: reduce one, create another partition, copy files there, and then reinstall
[12:41] <actionParsnip> jouyt: depends on the router, those remote access softwares always keep the router expecting a link so require no connection. SSH needs specially configuring. You will need to RTM to see how to let the connectivity through for SSH.
[12:41] <kpkarl> progre55: have you had any luck reinstalling?
[12:41] <nuuub> jouyt: and what about settings?
[12:42] <progre55> kpkarl: I've found this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/updated-drivers-everything-gone-wrong-please-help-813109/ and following the steps =)
[12:42] <Tweaky> !ot
[12:42] <konobi1234> nuuub: Best option is to have separated partition, one for /boot, /home and / (root)
[12:42] <jouyt> nuuub: do u mean when installing?
[12:42] <jouyt> konobi1234: with just /home and / is enought
[12:42] <nuuub> i can save files in another disk
[12:43] <meatbun> so i am using the new ubuntu
[12:43] <jouyt> actionParsnip: so what u mean, is that ssh should be always connected to a server, so that i could reverse connect?
[12:43] <nuuub> but i will lose all my passoword settings , program definition, is all that in home directory?
[12:43] <meatbun> i have problems, using printer to pdf
[12:43] <konobi1234> jouyt: OK.. currently I have just like you say
[12:43] <neekers> jrib: thanks for showing me that man page, i didn't know it existed...
[12:43] <meatbun> i changed it to 200%, but paper is only showing part of my page
[12:44] <jouyt> nuuub: what U can do, is to cp all /home, but take care
[12:44] <meatbun> that's bad, they changed the settings
[12:44] <jouyt> nuuub: if U ecrypted it, u have to take care of knowing the password
[12:45] <actionParsnip> jouyt: ssh wont always be connected. The port 22 (or whichever port you like) needs to be forwarded from the external of your home LAN to the laptop. You can then connect to it and do as you please
[12:45] <konobi1234> Who encrypt /home folder? Is that good idea?
[12:45] <nuuub> jouyt: ok thanks
[12:45] <nuuub> and with that i keep my settings?
[12:45] <actionParsnip> konobi1234: if you are new to the OS I don't persoanlly advise it
[12:46] <AbhiJit> no one knows
[12:46] <babtux> how set dns on my internet connection?
[12:46] <actionParsnip> AbhiJit: no ext4 is not accessible yet, keep an ear on www.fs-driver.org
[12:46] <aeon-ltd> babtux: network manager, or on your router
[12:47] <BlueEagle> babtux: You would want to edit /etc/network/interfaces and specify nameserver there iirc
[12:47] <konobi1234> actionParsnip: I'm not newbie :)
[12:47] <nuuub> thanks anyway jouyt i'll do that
[12:47] <icarus-c> actionParsnip, that thing seems dead for years
[12:47] <colde89> if I use vpn on a hosting-server, do I need there other security-applications?
[12:47] <jouyt> actionParsnip: I mean, if I create a cron that tryes to connect by ssh to my server in my laptop and when I want to control my laptop I just need to login into my server and make reverse conection?
[12:47] <actionParsnip> AbhiJit: also hassle microsoft, the definition is open and available so not hard to make, funny how their proprietary and close NTFS is readable and writable by Linux but Microsoft OSes can't write or even read ext4
[12:48] <AbhiJit> actionParsnip, not that
[12:48] <actionParsnip> icarus-c: it's all I know dude, I don't use windows outside of work
[12:48] <AbhiJit> actionParsnip, if i install previous version of kernel. then boot into taht kernel then remove the current latest kernel and then upgrade ubuntu. will it solve my sound problem?
[12:48] <icarus-c> actionParsnip, that is sort of marketing strategy i suppose
[12:48] <actionParsnip> konobi1234: if you think you will benefit from it then go for it. I think it causes more headaches than its worth
[12:48] <icarus-c> and open source programmers can't bother writing ext4 driver for crappy windows
[12:49] <Angellow> hello is there anyone able to help me ?
[12:49] <Angellow> Unable to mount 210 GB Filesystem
[12:49] <icarus-c> Angellow, what file system is that
[12:49] <actionParsnip> AbhiJit: if you can find debs for the older kernel, sure why not. I'd tread VERY carefully though
[12:50] <actionParsnip> !mount | Angellow
[12:50] <AbhiJit> actionParsnip, install from synaptic
[12:50] <AbhiJit> actionParsnip, installing*
[12:50] <jouyt> actionParsnip: ok, I will try that
[12:50] <babtux> BlueEagle: this is in my interfaces auto lo
[12:50] <actionParsnip> jouyt: not sure, ive never reverse connected
[12:50] <babtux> iface lo inet loopback i want set this dns: 4.2.2.4 what do i have to do?
[12:50] <AbhiJit> actionParsnip, so which one i need? now i am in process of installing that one containg word  'generic' what else i should install?
[12:50] <Angellow> is a hardisk  icarus-c   it is like D
[12:50] <actionParsnip> babtux: loopback doesn't need DNS
[12:50] <Angellow> :D
[12:51] <actionParsnip> AbhiJit: yes the generic is the one you'll need
[12:51] <icarus-c> Angellow, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system
[12:51] <Scott__2> actionParsnip, I've rebooted but still can't see any different and I don't think I can see anything in dmesg
[12:51] <babtux> actionParsnip: i can not connetct to net with out dns
[12:51] <actionParsnip> babtux: yes, so you aply the DNS to the interface with the connction (like eth0 or wlan0)
[12:51] <adalal> hi, is there a way to have a login on the computer that opens up to just one application instead of gnome?
[12:52] <actionParsnip> Scott__2: maybe you need some boot options to get the device seen
[12:52] <icarus-c> Angellow, ext4,  fat, ntfs, zfs are examples of file system
[12:52] <actionParsnip> !bootoptions | Scott__2
[12:52] <AbhiJit> actionParsnip, thank you
[12:52] <Angellow> it is a partition of windows  windows is in C but it doesent dakes D
[12:52] <Angellow> icarus-c,
[12:52] <babtux> actionParsnip: how do i edit this file? how set dns?
[12:52] <icarus-c> Angellow, that should be NTFS then
[12:52] <actionParsnip> babtux: apply them in network manager
[12:52] <Angellow> Icarus is ntfs
[12:52] <Angellow> icarus-c,
[12:52] <PiliStorm> hi
[12:53] <Katsumi32> anyone know if there is some tool to check up usb port speed ? or test usb port ?
[12:53] <icarus-c> Angellow, you need ntfs-3g installed. then open up nautilus file browser and double click the file system on the left panel
[12:53] <Arpad2> !mkv
[12:54] <meatbun> i have prob with evince. i changed scale to 200%, but the new page that comes are did not include all the contents
[12:54] <babtux> actionParsnip: your mean is network connection?
[12:54] <adalal> is there a way to lock a user to one application?
[12:54] <meatbun> so frustrating, never had that prob. when i was using ubuntu 9.x
[12:54] <meatbun> something that was working no longer works
[12:54] <meatbun> AAHHHHHHHHRHAHA!!!!!!!1
[12:55] <babtux> actionParsnip: ?
[12:55] <aeon-ltd> adalal: i suppoe you could give them permission to only laucnh one thing in /usr/bin
[12:55] <aeon-ltd> !chmod | adalal
[12:55] <actionParsnip> babtux: yes, edit the network connections then set the connection to use DHCP for address only. You can then set the servers in the sections below
[12:55] <actionParsnip> babtux: its takes me more than 1 second to type ANYTHING dude, grow some patience
[12:55] <aeon-ltd> adalal: why?, are you trying to make a kiosk?
[12:55] <adalal> aeon-ltd: i'm trying to setup a POS system, where the vendor login just opens up the lemon POS system
[12:55] <adalal> and has access to nothing else
[12:56] <aeon-ltd> adalal: yeah you could do that
[12:56] <adalal> aeon-ltd: how?
[12:56] <aeon-ltd> !chmod | adalal
[12:56] <enetic> hey.. im having some problems with my laptop. first off all the integrated wifi card will not work. its working once in a while, so i cant really figure out whats wrong. second of all, i bought a new usb wifi card of the brand "gigabyte GN-WB31N-RH". my problem with that card is that i cant get firefox to show any webpage. i can, however make a ping request in the terminal, forexample "ping www.ubuntu.com" and it will respond. so i guess i
[12:56] <enetic> have a connection to the internet, but i cant figure out whats wrong with it.. i have never experienced this before..
[12:56] <FloodBot2> enetic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:56] <zaidaus> !chmod | zaidaus
[12:56] <icarus-c> Angellow, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[12:56] <aeon-ltd> adalal: remove all permissions of all executables except the one you need with chmod
[12:57] <babtux> actionParsnip: what write search domain and dhcp client id?
[12:57] <actionParsnip> enetic: if you run: sudo lshw -C network   you should see the wireless chip, you can websearch for guides using the product line
[12:57] <adalal> aeon-ltd: ok.. thanks
[12:57] <babtux> actionParsnip: is important fill them?
[12:57] <aeon-ltd> adalal: not sure if theres a shorter method though
[12:57] <actionParsnip> babtux: you dont need those, just the DNS servers need populating as you wish
[12:57] <adalal> aeon-ltd: thanks
[12:57] <babtux> actionParsnip: if want set 2 dns what do i have to do?
[12:58] <aeon-ltd> babtux: why would you ever need 2?
[12:58] <actionParsnip> babtux: put a comman in between. E.g:     127.0.0.1, 8.8.8.8
[12:58] <Shapeshifter> Hi. Has this hole been fixed in linux-server 2.6.24.28.30? http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-Linux-kernel-provides-root-rights-1081317.html I asked in #ubuntu-server but there's no answer. Does anyone know where I could look up the version history/change log of this package?
[12:58] <lolcat> hello
[12:58] <aeon-ltd> lolcat: hi
[12:58] <actionParsnip> aeon-ltd: I use two, i always run a local DNS to cache DNS resolutions, makes the web a touch faster :)
[12:59] <Katsumi32> lolcat, hi
[12:59] <lolcat> I lost my network icon, is there any way to connect to a nwtwork?
[12:59] <actionParsnip> lolcat: if you have networks configured then its not really needed, you just wont get notifid of whats going on
[13:00] <actionParsnip> lolcat: if you press ALT+F2, type: nm-applet   and press enter, it should re-appear
[13:00] <aeon-ltd> actionParsnip: oh ok, like a SQUID server
[13:00] <actionParsnip> aeon-ltd: dnsmasq
[13:01] <aeon-ltd> actionParsnip: offtopic, but do you use a pc as a router?
[13:01] <lolcat> actionParsnip: thanks
[13:01] <svchost> Hi. I want to upload Java app into D900i using samsutools (samsungjava-ppp) but it lasts very long (40 KB - over 15 minutes). How to speed up PPP transfer in Ubuntu?
[13:01] <enetic> actionParsnip, thank you.. i got a response. it seems that it is connected to the internet. i got the ip 192.168.2.4. but forexample when i try to access my router from the laptop, it wont do.. no. i use a netgear router.
[13:01] <actionParsnip> aeon-ltd: tell dnsmasq to listen on 127.0.0.1 then add 127.0.0.1 as a DNS server, makes resolutions take 0ms rather than 30ms.Makes your system not query web DNS every time
[13:01] <babtux> actionParsnip: i have a problem with my resolution  i installed graphic driver but cant change my resolution why?
[13:02] <aeon-ltd> actionParsnip: k
[13:02] <ikonia> svchost: you can't, your using a java app contact the app owner
[13:02] <actionParsnip> aeon-ltd: no, i put a local dns on every system, makes things sweeter, couple it with chromiums pre-dns fetching and you got greased lightning
[13:02] <actionParsnip> babtux: ask the channel
[13:02] <c3l> can du produce a colored output depending on type of file, like ls?
[13:02] <svchost> ikonia: i though it depends of Ubuntu config files (ppp-related) but i will ask app's producer ;)
[13:03] <ikonia> svchost: no
[13:03] <actionParsnip> enetic: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[13:03] <spid3rxx> no
[13:03] <ikonia> c3l: no
[13:03] <spid3rxx>  its not ip adresse
[13:03] <spid3rxx> i guess
[13:03] <enetic> actionParsnip, yes. 8.8.8.8 is responding
[13:04] <incorrect> wow thunderbird seg faults if i don't have nscd running
[13:04] <AbhiJit> actionParsnip, i installed the previous kernel and my all sound problems solved magi cally. but problems is now in update it is not showint the next kernal update to be installed. shoud i wait some time or what else?
[13:04] <neekers> if you are trying to setup ssh from 2 remote machines that have the same user logged in, do you use the same file on the server for both users? => cat id_rsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[13:04] <coyote_> ..
[13:04] <c3l> ikonia: that not nice, is du the most used tool to display file and folder sizes, or is there any other more used tool for that, that gives a more readable output?
[13:04] <actionParsnip> enetic: ok in network manager change the interface to use DHCP for address only then set the DNS server to: 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4    save the new setting and reconnect. The web should now be ok
[13:04] <enetic> actionParsnip, and when i access my router from this computer, i can see the laptop connected to the router..
[13:05] <babtux>  i have a problem with my resolution i installed graphic driver but cant change my resolution now resolution is 1280*1024 when i change to 1920*1080 not ser correctly why?	
[13:05] <actionParsnip> AbhiJit: i'd log a bug with the newer kernel then
[13:05] <ikonia> c3l: du is exceptioanlly readable
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> c3l:  thers dozens of tools that can do it.  Depends on what you want.
[13:05] <AbhiJit> actionParsnip, no no
[13:05] <coyote_> join help
[13:05] <AbhiJit> actionParsnip, i mean in sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade there it is not showing any update it tell me that my system  is up to date
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> c3l:  http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20100916141430352/DiskUsageAnalyzers.html
[13:06] <Ghag> I need help, I'm trying to play a game and it tells me I need " Sun JVM...'
[13:06] <neekers> for instance, if both remote users are nick, do you cat both public keys to /home/nick/.ssh/authorized_keys?
[13:06] <c3l> Dr_Willis: coloring files according to type (folder, symlink etc..)
[13:06] <ikonia> Ghag: install sun jvm
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> Ghag:  instgall the sun JVM/JRE from the partners repository.
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> !java | Ghag
[13:06] <spid3rxx> i have boot ubuntu on my flash memory
[13:06] <spid3rxx> yesterdqy
[13:06] <spid3rxx> yesterday
[13:06] <AbhiJit> !info kernel
[13:06] <AbhiJit> :
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> Ghag:  what game requires the sun jvm? the icedtea jvm works for all ive tried.
[13:07] <ikonia> AbhiJit: what is the issue ?
[13:07] <actionParsnip> AbhiJit: weird, oh well. If its working then who cares :) :)
[13:07] <spid3rxx> ya  i need info
[13:07] <actionParsnip> !info linux-image | AbhiJit
[13:07] <AbhiJit> actionParsnip, yah thas true
[13:07] <geirha> neekers: You can have as many public keys listed in .ssh/autorized keys as you want. One key per line.
[13:07] <Ghag> Dr_Willis, minecraft does, hear of minecraft?
[13:07] <spid3rxx> when i can
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Ghag:  nope. never heard of it
[13:07] <babtux> i have a problem with my resolution i installed graphic driver but cant change my resolution now resolution is 1280*1024 when i change to 1920*1080 not ser correctly why?	
[13:07] <spid3rxx> founde all key
[13:07] <Ghag> http://www.minecraft.net/
[13:07] <neekers> one key per line, thank you
[13:07] <Ghag> There Dr_WIllis
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> FreeCol is about the only java game iplay
[13:07] <Ghag> Scroll down in it
[13:07] <AbhiJit> ikonia, i just installed previous version of linux kernle i.e. #23 and removedd the latest one i.e. #24 but now i in update it dont show any update for kernels.
[13:07] <FloodBot2> Ghag: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:08] <spid3rxx> all security key
[13:08] <AbhiJit> ikonia, actionParsnip should i again just manualy install the latest kernal #25?
[13:08] <AbhiJit> oh i mean #24
[13:08] <ikonia> AbhiJit: I'd check to make sure it's not still installed
[13:08] <AbhiJit> ikonia, yah i removed the latest kernel with ubuntu tweak
[13:09] <AbhiJit> and its not installed. i restarted the pc
[13:09] <ikonia> AbhiJit: ahhh ubuntu tweak = your system is no longer supported
[13:09] <actionParsnip> AbhiJit: i'd see what autoupdates brings down
[13:09] <AbhiJit> ikonia, :)
[13:09] <ikonia> AbhiJit: why you felt the need to use ubuntu tweek when the supported package manager tools are there I don't know
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> Ghag:  Install the SUN Java JRE from the 'partners' repository.
[13:09] <AbhiJit> ikonia, i just read on some blog that tweak is easy gui to do day to day ubutnu things
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> Ghag:  tahts what you do.
[13:09] <ikonia> AbhiJit: you read wrong
[13:09] <incorrect> ikonia, because ubuntu tweak is much slicker
[13:10] <AbhiJit> actionParsnip, should i manual again now install altest kernel?
[13:10] <ikonia> AbhiJit: can you use synaptic ?
[13:10] <ikonia> incorrect: nonsense
[13:10] <AbhiJit> ikonia, yes i can
[13:10] <Ghag> Uhh, how to get the repository?
[13:10] <PiliStorm> 不是吧
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> !partner
[13:10] <actionParsnip> AbhiJit: your call dude
[13:10] <PiliStorm> sorry
[13:10] <ikonia> AbhiJit: ok - so why did you need to use unsupported software to remove a software package
[13:10] <AbhiJit> actionParsnip, means?
[13:10] <AbhiJit> ikonia, dunno. i felt if fancy and good
[13:10] <babtux> how solve this error? could not set the configuration for crtc 434
[13:10] <ikonia> AbhiJit: well, your system is now unsupportible
[13:11] <spid3rxx> and  i need  help on vpnc
[13:11] <AbhiJit> ikonia, so what you suggest now? should i uninstall ubuntu tweak?
[13:11] <Ghag> Dr_Willis, you lost me, what do i do?
[13:11] <spid3rxx> because
[13:11] <gallo720> ciao
[13:11] <gallo720> !list
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> Ghag:  run that command the bot gave for the !partner repository,
[13:11] <Ghag> Which was?
[13:11] <ikonia> AbhiJit: too late, you don't know what it's changed, how and why, your system is now in an unsupportable state
[13:11] <incorrect> ikonia, compare and contrast, tweak gets me more control over components, it allows me a quick ui to apt-get clean, fast way to remove cruft from my system, err ubuntu software centre, well i haven't found chrome on there yet
[13:11] <AbhiJit> ikonia, so reinstall is the only solution?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> !partner | Ghag  (got no history buffer on your irc client??
[13:12] <AbhiJit> ikonia, i mean reinstall os
[13:12] <enetic> actionParsnip, i did what you said, but still, its not working. i set the primary dns to 8.8.8.8 and the secondary to 8.8.4.4. the network card shows a speed of 54 Mbit/s.
[13:12] <ikonia> incorrect: it also changes things in an unknown manner, accesses unofficial repos that can cause software instability
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> !java | Ghag
[13:12] <ikonia> AbhiJit: up to you
[13:12] <Ghag> Dr_Willis, I have no idea what you mean for me to put into terminal
[13:12] <konobi1234> 8.8.8.8 google DNS :D
[13:12]  * Ghag points gun at head.
[13:12] <AbhiJit> ikonia, i want my system to be supportable. what to do?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> Ghag:  the command the bot said between the  << and  >> things
[13:12] <incorrect> ikonia, and it says, with a lovely warning don't do that unless you know what you are doing
[13:12] <ikonia> AbhiJit: up to you
[13:13] <AbhiJit> ikonia, :(
[13:13] <ikonia> incorrect: depends if people heed that
[13:13] <Ghag> Dr_Willis nothing happened
[13:13] <incorrect> ikonia, you act like it didn't tell them, i am sure i can get my system into a funny state via the software centre too
[13:13] <meatbun> !help | meatbun
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> Ghag:  it added the repiository...
[13:14] <ikonia> incorrect: doubtful
[13:14] <incorrect> ah let me see now, change graphics drivers package, that is in the standard list
[13:14] <spid3rxx> ya i found it
[13:14] <c3l> ikonia: du is okay, if id find a way do display all non-hidden files and 1 directories, as 'du --max-depth=1 -a' but this also shows dotted files, do you know how I can hide these? manpage doesnt tell me. --exclude=.* doesent work either (nor prepending .* with a /)
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> Ghag:  how sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, and install teh sun java JRE like the !java factoid said.
[13:14] <incorrect> taking out my graphics card now without a warning of a 'don't do this'
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc)
[13:14] <Dr_Willis>  │              | partner" »
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> doh - wrong paste. :)
[13:14] <FloodBot2> Dr_Willis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:14] <meatbun> !sound | meatbun
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[13:14] <ikonia> c3l: exclude does work
[13:15] <actionParsnip> enetic: if you run:   dig www.google.com     do you get resolution?
[13:15] <Ghag> Well thanks
[13:15] <glassresistor> so myself and afew people i work with keep having the same problem with lucid(i think they are all server ed) logging us out of Xorg after 20mins or something like that of idle time
[13:15] <c3l> ikonia: weird, so is there a way to show everything in depth=1 except dotfiles?
[13:15] <Ghag> Thanks guys
[13:16] <actionParsnip> konobi1234: google dns is just easy to remember, way easier than the opendns ones
[13:16] <mrand> I have installed 10.10 on a old test laptop... it boots to the background/wallpaper, but nothing more - no menu bar or anything is fired off.  Ideas?
[13:16] <glassresistor> anyone know how to change that fearture
[13:16] <AbhiJit> mrand, ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> mrand:  ask in #ubuntu+1  and tell them yur video card
[13:16] <mrand> *slapsforhead*  thanks
[13:16] <enetic> actionParsnip, yea, i got an answer after 56 mSec..
[13:17] <spid3rxx> dr_willis how long you are using ubuntu
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> spid3rxx:  since breezy badger.. i think.
[13:17] <spid3rxx> i see you pro
[13:17] <spid3rxx> hhhhhhhhh
[13:17] <AbhiJit> ikonia, do you mean that using synaptic to remove kernel whould have not caused this problem? so that i wll use synpatic in next time
[13:17] <sniperjo_> where would the best place be to ask about WiFi ?
[13:17] <spid3rxx> no serouciilly
[13:17] <spid3rxx> i n hier
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> !breezy
[13:17] <AbhiJit> sniperjo_, which os you are using?
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> what was befor breezy.. :) i may of been using  it befor that..
[13:18] <sniperjo_> AbhiJit:  Ubuntu, but its more technical hardware stuff
[13:18] <actionParsnip> enetic: ok so you have DNS resolution and an IP, can you view the router config page in your browser? Can you get system updates?
[13:18] <spid3rxx> zhy love use it
[13:18] <spid3rxx> why love use it
[13:18] <AbhiJit> sniperjo_, first ask here if its not related to ubuntu then you ask in ##hardware
[13:18] <jrib> Dr_Willis: warty, hoary, breezy, dapper the alphabetical :)
[13:18] <spid3rxx> why love use it
[13:18] <AbhiJit> ikonia, i am asking your suggestion
[13:18] <spid3rxx> dr_willis
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> Ok.. hmm.. i rcall using warty.. also..
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> !warty
[13:19] <enetic> actionParsnip, no. i cant access the router or the system updates.. it wont connect.
[13:19] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[13:19] <AbhiJit> now what wrong i have dont that he is not answering?
[13:19] <AbhiJit> :(
[13:20] <c3l> is port 3132 an ok port to listen to with my ssh server?
[13:21] <Katsumi32> AbhiJit, whats the problem ?
[13:21] <aeon-ltd> c3l: err not anymore
[13:21] <actionParsnip> enetic: hmm, not sure then. Maybe someone else can pitch in. At least you have DNS resolution. If you run: sudo apt-get update    does it hit the servers?
[13:22] <c3l> aeon-ltd: would you mind explaining some more?
[13:22] <AbhiJit> Katsumi32, i removed kernel with ubuntu twek and it creates some problems. so is it like that if i used synaptic then this problem is not arise?
[13:22] <spid3rxx> by the  do i need divice or drivers toi install on ubuntu
[13:22] <spid3rxx> for wifi
[13:22] <Katsumi32> AbhiJit, why did you remove kernel ?
[13:22] <coolroot--> i got a problem regarding to my broadcom sta wireless driver...i can see my driver but it's not been activated...when i tried to click activate.. i got error
[13:22] <coolroot--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/496442/ thank you
[13:22] <aeon-ltd> c3l: you just told everyone the port your listening on, your ip address could be found out soon enough, and in a few minutes you could be expecting brute force attacks on ssh
[13:23] <AbhiJit> Katsumi32, thats a long story. in short its this - no sound card detected
[13:23] <yangpeng_> i am doing something about preseeding, can somebody help me?
[13:23] <Katsumi32> AbhiJit, everytime u want to remove something thats not needed tun sudo apt-get remove instaed going to synaptic and just removing things
[13:23] <actionParsnip> AbhiJit: ubuntu-tweak is not an official canonical app (its not in the repos) so any action it takes is unsuportable. If you remove them using synaptic then it is fine. Why you are using ubuntu-tweak for that aqction is beyond my cmoprehension
[13:23] <spid3rxx> use back track for brute force attake
[13:23] <jrib> c3l: not like it's that difficult to just scan your ports to see where you have ssh listening if someone wanted to attack you in particular
[13:23] <Katsumi32> also AbhiJit installl Bleachbit its like cc in windows will help you clean ubuntu
[13:23] <spid3rxx> he is the best security live cd
[13:23] <AbhiJit> actionParsnip, :'(
[13:23] <spid3rxx> andthe best hacking cd
[13:24] <aeon-ltd> jrib: it justs saves time for attackers
[13:24] <AbhiJit> Katsumi32, hmm
[13:24] <spid3rxx> live
[13:24] <spid3rxx> better than ubuntu
[13:24] <c3l> aeon-ltd: haahah oopsie, thats stupid, luckily im not using it, just asking, if its a commonly scanned port or of alot of other tools are using it, I need to find a port that my friends windows box doesnt block
[13:24] <incorrect_> weird all my usb devices turn off from time to time
[13:24] <spid3rxx>  i tell you this is the  truth
[13:24] <actionParsnip> spid3rxx: BSD is more secure
[13:24] <jrib> spid3rxx: k
[13:25] <spid3rxx> nothing is back track
[13:25] <coolroot--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/496442/ thank you
[13:25] <spid3rxx> no back track
[13:25] <spid3rxx> is more secure
[13:25] <jrib> spid3rxx: let's try to stay on the topic of ubuntu support
[13:25] <actionParsnip> spid3rxx: look at the security track record of BSD
[13:25] <coolroot--> i got a problem regarding to my broadcom sta wireless driver...i can see my driver but it's not been activated...when i tried to click activate.. i got error http://paste.ubuntu.com/496442/ thank you
[13:25] <spid3rxx> theris evry thing into
[13:25] <c3l> jrib: thats true, I just want to avoid becoming a constant victim to attacks due to choosing a bad port
[13:25] <spid3rxx> nikto
[13:25] <spid3rxx> xhydra
[13:26] <spid3rxx> framework
[13:26] <aeon-ltd> c3l: any port is fine, windows, if they've got a firewall, blocks imcoming connections (except those allowed) by default. so its really their problem not something you can change without going to there machine
[13:26] <yangpeng_> preceeding when installing ubuntu, someone can help me?
[13:26] <spid3rxx> even you vvan ;akeserver on it
[13:26] <spid3rxx> even you can makeserver on it
[13:26] <c3l> aeon-ltd: its his bussines computer, quite restricted =/
[13:26] <Katsumi32> yangpeng_, whats the problem ?
[13:26] <spid3rxx> try back track
[13:26] <spid3rxx> is the best
[13:27] <neriukas> nubuntu ;)
[13:27] <actionParsnip> spid3rxx: backtrack is oftopic here
[13:27] <aeon-ltd> c3l: it probably has 443, for messenging and https open, and obviously 80 for http
[13:27] <enetic> actionParsnip, it is, at first, but it stops loading after a while..
[13:27] <coolroot--> hey why are u talkin some shit portscanning activities here? this aint a portscanner h4x0r channel...mind to go to other channels?
[13:27] <spid3rxx> i have use ubuntu
[13:27] <Katsumi32> spid3rxx, what do you want to track back ?
[13:27] <actionParsnip> enetic: strange, maybe there is some extra config needed for your wireless chip
[13:27] <spid3rxx> hhhhhhhhhh
[13:28] <spid3rxx> i jest toking
[13:28] <spid3rxx> i ; user  of ubuntu too
[13:28] <enetic> actionParsnip, i guess... but thank you very much anyways !
[13:28] <bazhang> spid3rxx, wrong channel
[13:28] <c3l> aeon-ltd: wouldnt it be bad to use a port thats used by http, like 80 or 8080, or ftps 21. or is that ok? with security in mind
[13:28] <coolroot--> h4x0r wannabes ei? callin urself a h4x0r usin those shit done apps made by someone else........learn to code and call urself an elite! rather depending on others made tools! geez.....get a life!
[13:29] <aeon-ltd> c3l: yeah, your gonna have to open a port on there side to gain access
[13:30] <c3l> aeon-ltd: awh, well thanks alot for clarifying!
[13:32] <neriukas> Who know nubuntu?
[13:32] <AbhiJit> !nubuntu
[13:32] <jimcooncat>  I'm interested in the gtk-server provided by gtk-server.org. I don't see where it's in ubuntu. Googling "ubuntu gtk-server" leads me nowhere. Perhaps there's some quality issue why it's not packaged. Any ideas how I find out?
[13:33] <neriukas> i have nubuntu 8.12 :D
[13:33] <OerHeks> jimcooncat, never heard of gtk server, i do know xserver.
[13:33] <c3l> neriukas: the project seems dead?
[13:33] <misc--> are there any twitter clients that work any more? (needs to support oauth)
[13:34] <neriukas> c3l yes it dead but you can download nubuntu from torrent it still alive
[13:34] <actionParsnip> misc--: omgubuntu seems to know them all
[13:34] <MohammadAG> KthWeeteur or something :P
[13:34] <misc--> what is omgubuntu?
[13:35] <c3l> neriukas: I wouldnt recommend using a distro thats no longer in development, im sure there are some other, alive, distros out there with what you want
[13:35] <AbhiJit> misc--, its blog dedicated to ubuntu. type /j #omg!ubuntu to join their channel
[13:36] <aeon-ltd> neriukas: uhh, you could just get ubuntu server and install whatever nubuntu had
[13:36] <misc--> AbhiJit: wow you are right, all the information that I needed right there. Thanks
[13:36] <weez^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/496442/
[13:37] <AbhiJit> misc--, yah
[13:37] <allu2> Hello, my ubuntu 10.04 just freezed (well at least the cursor) but ssh works, this is not first time and i wondered if anyone would like to see what is wrong with it, (Dmesg = http://pastebin.com/MVq8GeG8 ) and (Xorg.log = http://pastebin.com/6mS4frpv )
[13:37] <neriukas> aeon-ltd system requiremnts for ubuntu server?
[13:38] <aeon-ltd> neriukas: very low, not sure of specifics, but pentium 3 800mhz, 32-64mb of ram iirc
[13:38] <misc--> allu2: maybe X just froze... have you tried restarting gdm from ssh? sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> misc--:  most of the clients have updated to support that. from what i read at the 'omgubuntu' web site
[13:39] <_ting_> hi
[13:39] <_ting_> i need help
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> !details | _ting_
[13:39] <allu2> misc--, i'll try, but question is why it froze? and as this is not the first time it get's annoying
[13:39] <misc--> oh it's actually a site.. I thought they were mocking me heh
[13:39] <_ting_> could anyone help me? how can i run drivers windows from the console ?
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> _ting_:  clarify what you mean.
[13:40] <_ting_> because my screen now it is very very small i cannt acces to the menu
[13:40] <weez^> Dr_Willis i got a problem regarding to my broadcom sta wireless driver...i can see my driver but it's not been activated...when i tried to click activate.. i got error http://paste.ubuntu.com/496442/ thank you
[13:40] <misc--> allu2: may be it's the screensaver or something along those lines that's causing it... I've seen a few cases recently where that's happened
[13:40] <_ting_> I need to access to system->hardware drivers
[13:40] <_ting_> but through out the terminal
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> weez^:  for my one laptop that used STA - i ended up just installing the drivers via apt-get..
[13:40] <allu2> misc--, it freezez randomly by any random act i do, sometime it runs for days and sometimes just few minutes
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> _ting_:  the binary for that menu item is 'jockey-gtk'
[13:41] <Guest43929> go
[13:41] <_ting_> thanks
[13:41] <allu2> this time i opened places tab on panle and noticed input froze
[13:41] <BE88> hallo thare ..
[13:41] <allu2> panel*
[13:41] <BE88> i need to recover deleted files in Amarok ubuntu 10.04
[13:41] <henry_> (Hi all - my first time on IRC curious to see how it all works)
[13:41] <Guest43929> go away
[13:41] <allu2> hi henry_
[13:41] <spydon> henry_, hi
[13:41] <henry_> yo!
[13:41] <BE88> the Amarok delete all my music some how
[13:41] <weez^> Dr_Willis so i need to reinstall my broadcom reps? uninstall from my sypnatics? then try to  install it back thru apt-get in terminal?
[13:41] <misc--> allu2: can you push ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a console, when it freezes? I guess it's not a complete freeze because you can still ssh in to it
[13:42] <Guest43929> hi hennry
[13:42] <BE88> help need my music back ;(
[13:42] <allu2> misc--, doesn't work, no input from keyboard or mouse(touchpad) nor external (usb mouse) is accpeted
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> weez^:  on one box. the sta drivers dident even work for me.  I dont have that laptop any more. so havent used them in a few months.
[13:42] <allu2> misc--, nothing happens, clock ticks on the panel and i can ssh on it
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> weez^:  You could just try installing them via the command line. and not use the hardqaredrivers tool
[13:42] <allu2> misc--, just input it frozen
[13:43] <Guest43929> Dr willis
[13:43] <c3l> henry_: hi there, this channel is relativly bussy, if you got a question, just ask it, if you just want to talk, #ubuntu-offtopic is then the challen :)
[13:43] <coyote> #/join <ubuntu-fr>
[13:43] <misc--> allu2: Ah right I see. Hmmmm I'm not sure about that one then :/
[13:43] <henry_> ok thanks - just really having a look, thanks thou!!
[13:43] <Serafeim> How can I open a pdf porfolio in ubuntu?
[13:44] <misc--> allu2: to verify that it really is just the input, you could maybe enable remote desktop (system -> preferences -> remote desktop) and then see if you can vnc to it when it freezes again
[13:44] <Guest43929> hi henry
[13:44] <allu2> misc--, if i press powerbutton it promps out the shutdown options but well i can't press them :P
[13:44] <Serafeim> please help me!
[13:45] <allu2> misc--, so X is running
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> !details | Serafeim
[13:45] <amanita_> Hi, is there any solution to send text message from Ekiga to my Skype buddy?
[13:45] <weez^> Dr_Willis my wireless is working but thanx to xbonesx help yesterday....but when i try to use aircrack seems my wireless can't be detected...wew
[13:45] <Serafeim> ok sorry
[13:45] <Serafeim> !details
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> weez^:  i dont use aircrack. so no idea. I think that tool only works with some cards/drivers
[13:45] <spanther> yay 10.10 works awesome on my ASUS eeePC 1005p :)
[13:45] <ikonia> weez^: why do you want to use aircrack if your wirless network is working
[13:46] <ikonia> spanther: #ubuntu+1 for 10.10 discussion
[13:46] <misc--> allu2: I'm thiking... but I can't think of anything to try...
[13:46] <allu2> ikonia, he wants to uses neigbours ultra fast 100mb/s connection? :P
[13:46] <spanther> ikonia, i don't want to discuss about it ;)
[13:46] <allu2> :D
[13:46] <ikonia> allu2: please don't suggest things that aren't true unless you know they are
[13:46] <ikonia> spanther: then please don't make pointless statements about it
[13:47] <allu2> ikonia, sorry, for having humor :S
[13:47] <ikonia> allu2: no problem
[13:47] <c3l> hahaha
[13:47] <spanther> ikonia, the point is, others now know about it too. was not pointless :)
[13:47] <weez^> ikonia: i got wifi connections around me....i can't afford to have one...so might help to access others.... :(
[13:47] <ikonia> weez^: that is illegal and we will not discuss/support it in this channel
[13:48] <ikonia> spanther: ok - I'll make it clear, Please don't talk about ubuntu 10.10 in this channel, #ubuntu+1 only
[13:48] <xxx> hello
[13:48] <Guest79209> ok this looks like irc
[13:48] <ikonia> Guest79209: it is, welcome
[13:48] <weez^> ikonia: yup! sorry
[13:48] <c3l> spanther: this is a support channel, people ask questions and people who know the answer helps. for geleral talk about ubuntu or anything else, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:48] <Guest79209> ok I gonna change channel too
[13:48] <Guest79209> just wanted to test irssi
[13:48] <spanther> c3l, ok :)
[13:49] <misc--> why can't people talk about ubuntu 10.10?
[13:49] <Serafeim> I have a pdf file that is a portfolio. That means than a single pdf file contains many pdf documents (for example my pdf portfolio has 130 pdf documents). When I open this portfolio with the evince programme I get this messange: For the best experience, open this PDF portfolio in Acrobat 9 or Adobe Reader 9, or later. I downloaded the Acrobat Reader and everything was ok. I could read the pdf documents. I am wondering if is out there an
[13:49] <c3l> misc--: they can, in #uvuntu+1
[13:49] <misc--> ahh.. it's because it's not out yet
[13:49] <c3l> misc--: this channel is for support with the current stable release
[13:50] <misc--> ah ok fair enough
[13:50] <c3l> (including older, but still alive versions, as 9.10 for example)
[13:51] <misc--> cool
[13:51] <misc--> allu2: maybe this might help: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787 but... 105 pages of stuff to read
[13:52] <amanita_> Hi, is there any way to send text message from Ekiga to my buddy who is on Skype?
[13:54] <DexterF> hi
[13:55] <DexterF> after an upgrade from 9.04 over 9.10 to 10.04 there are a lot of network timeouts while browsing
[13:55] <DexterF> is there a known issue?
[13:55] <Pelo> morning folks
[13:56] <DexterF> cheers
[13:57] <soreau> DexterF: Does it happen on a 10.04 live session? If not, its likely caused through the upgrading somehow (as opposed to clean install)
[13:57] <Serafeim> same problem with DexterF. Using ubuntu 10.04 64-bit version
[13:57] <Pelo> I nedd to play switcheroo with a couple of hdds, 80 gig from a linux machine and 12 gig from an xp machine, I don' T mind reintalling the xp machine but I'd like to just copy the stuff over from the linux one , any tool for that,   got another comp to do the actual work
[13:57] <Ubuwhat> Looking for SANE support.
[13:57] <c3l> DexterF: quite a lot of users experience trouble when upgrading between versions. I would personally recommend to do a clean install for each new version, just keeping a backup of /home and maybe your installed packages
[13:58] <soreau> Pelo: you need more space for windoze?
[13:58] <allu2> misc--, thanks but there is 105 pages with no answer i'm afraid :(
[13:58] <Pelo> soreau, more space for  itune 10 and related content
[13:58] <zepek_14> which is the remastersys package on Ubuntu 10.04 ? (remaster is the remastersys ? )
[13:58] <Ubuwhat> Just bought a new scanner - and for some reason it won't budge - although it supposed to work 'good' with SANE
[13:58] <soreau> Pelo: maybe try #windoze then
[13:58] <Pelo> soreau , the linux machine is only a client machine anyway , no need for the extra space
[13:58] <misc--> allu2: that's no good :/
[13:59] <allu2> misc--, yeah :(
[13:59] <Pelo> soreau, no , this is a linux issue,  need to move a CLI system from one hdd to another whithout reinstaling
[13:59] <allu2> misc--, and i need to use that laptop in 45min test in IT in 2 weeks :S can't imagine it freeze in middle!
[13:59] <soreau> Pelo: try #linux
[13:59] <Pelo> Ubuwhat, there is a #sane channel
[13:59] <misc--> allu2: oohhh that definitely wouldn't be good
[14:00] <allu2> misc--, yeah :S
[14:00] <Ubuwhat> Pelo, thank you. will try it
[14:00] <allu2> misc--, indeed :(
[14:00] <misc--> allu2: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[14:00] <llutz> Pelo: linux systems can be moved/copied easily with rsync
[14:01] <allu2> misc--, 10.04
[14:01] <karju> como instalar captcha en jodownlader
[14:01] <misc--> oh right. Well, was going to say to upgrade, but there goes that...
[14:01] <karju> como estan amigos
[14:01] <Raptors> Does anyone know if the new flash player plugin supports hardware acceleration?
[14:01] <Pelo> llutz, that might be an idea,  never thought of using rsync for this particular job
[14:01] <llutz> Pelo: you have to reinstall grub after that and adjust /etc/fstab to new UUIDS
[14:01] <Raptors> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[14:01] <llutz> Pelo: you also can use "cp -ax" or tar
[14:02] <Pelo> llua, fstab I knew about, hope it'S not grub 2
[14:02] <Pelo> llutz, -ax ?
[14:02] <DexterF> c3l: not an option, not my machine
[14:03] <llutz> Pelo: you don't want /sys /dev  being copied, so -x (man cp)
[14:03] <gNostic> (clear
[14:05] <flexy> I have  a lucid server, it fails to start zoneminder at boot. Manually starting it with /etc/init.d/zoneminder start works... how to get it to run at boot?
[14:05] <Pelo> llutz, can i    cp -ax  /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 &
[14:05] <Pelo> wil that work ?
[14:05] <u|core> allu2: ive seen that error not so long ago here on a local machine, and it ended up being a heating issue with the motherboard northbridge chipset. so make shure your system is cooled enough (
[14:06] <llutz> Pelo: no, you have to mount it and copy then
[14:06] <flexy> Pelo: copy it from and to mount points, not device names
[14:06] <flexy> what ever it is... :)
[14:07] <Pelo> I guess I'll jsut have to prepare thepartitions beforhand,  ok thanks guys
[14:07] <llutz> Pelo: mount new hdd to /media/new "sudo cp -ax / /media/new"
[14:07] <zepek_14> how to install remastersys on ubuntu 10.04? is the remaster package is the application which i want ?
[14:07] <actionParsnip> !remaster
[14:08] <bu2bu2> Pelo, late to the conversation but just make sure the system you are copying is not in use
[14:08] <bazhang> zepek_14, has to be installed from 3rd party sources
[14:08] <zepek_14> bazhang: what you mena with 3rd?
[14:08] <zepek_14> bazhang: i have to install the deb package ?
[14:08] <Pelo> bu2bu2, I was planning to put the two drives in a 3rd computer to do the job from
[14:08] <bazhang> zepek_14, non-ubuntu sources
[14:08] <zepek_14> bazhang: it is not on software center ?
[14:08] <bazhang> zepek_14, nope
[14:08] <xbonesx> can we get back track support considering it based on ubuntu?
[14:09] <bazhang> xbonesx, no
[14:09] <zepek_14> bazhang: what is remaster package ?
[14:09] <bazhang> xbonesx, #backtrack-linux
[14:09] <bazhang> zepek_14, ubuntu customization kit to remaster iso's
[14:09] <flexy> zoneminder not starting at boot? why?
[14:09] <actionParsnip> xbonesx: no, just like ubuntu doesnt get support in debian channels. backtrack has its own channel #backtrack-linux
[14:09] <zepek_14> bazhang: hmm ok. thank you!
[14:10] <actionParsnip> xbonesx: backtrack is based on ubuntu, however it isn't ubuntu. It's backtrack
[14:11] <dennisn> I just installed beta 10.10, i think successfully ... but when i boot it up, after i login (graphically), i don't get a desktop
[14:11] <dennisn> (just the wallpaper, and a mouse cursor :s)
[14:11] <Katsumi32> the whole backtrack is useless ubuntu is better u can install everything u have got in backtrack. in general backtrack is based on interpid so very old
[14:11] <bazhang> dennisn, #ubuntu+1 for that
[14:11] <dennisn> k
[14:11] <bazhang> Katsumi32, and offtopic here
[14:12] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: makes sense...
[14:12] <Katsumi32> bazhang, i know it
[14:12] <bazhang> Katsumi32, so why talk about it
[14:12] <Katsumi32> cuz someone was asking about 5 times
[14:12] <bazhang> Katsumi32, offtopic chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:13] <xbonesx> Katsumi32: are their specific repositories for back-track?
[14:13] <Katsumi32> xbonesx, yes
[14:13] <bazhang> xbonesx, #backtrack-linux please
[14:13] <Pelo> thanks you all
[14:14] <allu2> u|core, it's a laptop but that might be the case as indeed it seems to freeze when it's on my bed
[14:15] <ksbalaji> my command growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd/ ubuntuxxx.10.4.xxx.iso failed -what  parameters to use with growisofs ?? for burning a live cd from ubuntuxxx.iso file?
[14:15] <zzt> what?
[14:15] <actionParsnip> !burning | ksbalaji
[14:15] <zzt> x
[14:16] <zzt> what is x chat?
[14:16] <zzt> ??
[14:16] <ksbalaji> actionParsnip, I have a crashed ubuntu running. I can only use commands. k3b does not start.
[14:16] <Mkaysi> zzt: Xchat is IRC applicaltion.
[14:16] <MohammadAG> An IRC client, http://xchat.org
[14:16] <zzt> i am from china
[14:17] <actionParsnip> ksbalaji: the link will show the cli method also
[14:17] <Ubuwhat> ni answer in the #sane channel - hope i can find some basic halp in this channel. just brought a new scanner (epson 2500) , and I'm trying to figure out how to make it work with ubuntu.
[14:17] <zzt> mkaysi
[14:17] <zzt> ?/
[14:18] <egsome> !scanner | Ubuwhat
[14:19] <fyksen> Im looking for some ubuntu/linux posters.. Any idea where I can get anything like that?
[14:19] <actionParsnip> Ubuwhat: you may need the iscan packages, available online. Why didnt you check compatibility before purchasing
[14:19] <actionParsnip> !ot | fyksen
[14:19] <zzt> ??
[14:19] <fyksen> Ahh, okey sry
[14:19] <morbidwar> hi, it is posible to make an archive that includes the date?? ex: tar -cvf documents$DATA.tar /home/user/Documents? i need to create archives every night and i want them to go automaticly using contab
[14:19] <xbonesx> when typing 'sudo -s' what does the '-s' mean?
[14:20] <johnswr> s=super
[14:20] <Ubuwhat> actionParsnip, I did. sane mentioned "good" support for this model
[14:21] <actionParsnip> xbonesx: if you use -s you can ruin home ownerships as -s user the users profile rather than roots
[14:21] <actionParsnip> Ubuwhat: cool, lets see what we can find
[14:21] <Seveas> morbidwar, yes it is
[14:21] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: i thought thats what 'sudo su' is for???
[14:22] <abdee> hyt
[14:22] <Seveas> morbidwar, tar zcvf documents_$(date +%Y-%m-%d_:%M:%S).tar.gz /home/user/Documents
[14:22] <actionParsnip> Ubuwhat: is it an Epson GT-2500 ?
[14:22] <Seveas> morbidwar, tar zcvf documents_$(date +%Y-%m-%d_%H:%M:%S).tar.gz /home/user/Documents
[14:22] <Ubuwhat> actionParsnip, yes it is
[14:22] <actionParsnip> xbonesx: sudo su   isnt advised, sudo -i   is to be used to avoid issues
[14:22] <Seveas> stupid xchat stripped %H :)
[14:23] <actionParsnip> Ubuwhat: please dont truncate product names, it makes searches harder and less accurate
[14:23] <xbonesx> whats 'su' for then cuz thats what ive been using to get super user
[14:24] <actionParsnip> Ubuwhat: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man5/sane-epkowa.5.html
[14:24] <Seveas> xbonesx, su can only be executed as root or with sudo. It allows the superuser to become someone else. sudo is a more generic way of doing this, usable by non-root users too
[14:24] <Seveas> xbonesx, sudo su makes you execute su as root, a fairly pointless action :)
[14:24] <Seveas> sudo -i is enough
[14:25] <actionParsnip> Ubuwhat: http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/test_result.php   use the debs there, may help
[14:25] <quiescens> that's not true, su can be run by anyone, just that it requires the password of the user you're trying to su to
[14:25] <xbonesx> so use 'sudo -s' when i want super user control then???
[14:25] <Seveas> quiescens, eh, point taken :)
[14:25] <Seveas> xbonesx, no, sudo -i
[14:25] <xbonesx> whats "-i" mean?
[14:25] <Ubuwhat> actionParsnip, tahnk you. will give it a try.
[14:25] <xbonesx> and "0s"
[14:26] <xbonesx> "-s"
[14:26] <Seveas> The -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified in the passwd(5) entry of the target user as a login shell.
[14:26] <duffydack> interactive, i think
[14:26] <duffydack> or that^
[14:26] <Seveas> read the manpage for all details
[14:26] <xbonesx> Seveas: manpage???
[14:27] <rafaelsoaresbr> hello, how to install mysql workbench (or similar)?
[14:27] <Ubuwhat> actionParsnip, do you know how to access SANE  backend interface?
[14:27] <Seveas> you want to do commandline things as root and don't even know what manpages are? tsk tsk...
[14:27] <Seveas> xbonesx, on the commandline, type this: man sudo
[14:27] <xbonesx> ok
[14:27] <morbidwar> Seveas: Thank you
[14:27] <actionParsnip> Ubuwhat: no idea dude. I've only encountered 1 scanner in my life and the iscan made it work (was also an epson)
[14:29] <xbonesx> the mac video editing software i think called "isight" can you get something like that for ubuntu?
[14:30] <dirty-harry>  hi there, anyone here who knows how to activate the desktop-icon-starter-reaction in xubuntu lucid lynx; option "give visual reaction is marked"
[14:31] <rafaelsoaresbr> isn't there any mysql modelling tool in repositories?
[14:31] <Seveas> rafaelsoaresbr, what do you mean with a mysql modeling tool?
[14:32] <sandking> hi
[14:32] <sandking> how can i change gdm?
[14:32] <sandking> i installed unity and have some issues and want to get rid of it
[14:32] <ryaxnb> hey can i have a wii
[14:32] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: are their any downsides to using "-i"?
[14:32] <Seveas> sandking, gdm2setup
[14:32] <kuttan_> hi , is there any way / app to clean *deadlinks* in gnome desktop menu ?
[14:32] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: any loss of privs?
[14:32] <Seveas> ryaxnb, www.nintendo.com :P
[14:33] <ryaxnb> Seveas, :/
[14:33] <Seveas> kuttan_, rightclick on the menu, select edit menu
[14:33] <ryaxnb> i already have one anyway
[14:33] <ryaxnb> i do like wiis.
[14:33] <Seveas> !ot | ryaxnb
[14:33] <jimcooncat>  I'm interested in the gtk-server provided by gtk-server.org. I don't see where it's in ubuntu. Googling "ubuntu gtk-server" leads me nowhere. Perhaps there's some quality issue why it's not packaged. Any ideas how I find out?
[14:33] <actionParsnip> xbonesx: it uses roots config so will be fairly bare but you wont garbage you users files to make then owned by root
[14:33] <dennisn> (i solved my no-desktop-display problem by apt-get removing compiz-core and libdecoration0. :b)
[14:33] <kuttan_> Seveas, that one way, but any app like gconf-cleaner ? thanks for responding by the way
[14:34] <ryaxnb> oh dear, im not in offtopic :(
[14:34] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: ahh... i get it, "su" sets for command and set the beginning directory to my /home/username/
[14:34] <noamsml> Gnome power manager seems to warn me the battery is critically low whenever I disconnect the AC (even if it's full). Is there any way to disable that completely?
[14:34] <sandking> Seveas: thx
[14:35] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: i know a lot of execution lines have "4" in front of them what does that do?
[14:35] <noamsml> Nvm, found it. I just had to disable use_time_for_policy
[14:36] <Seveas> kuttan_, not that I know of
[14:36] <kuttan_> Seveas, thanks dude
[14:36] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: i meant "$"
[14:37] <kkal> how can I make a bootable winxp usb installer from ubuntu?
[14:37] <actionParsnip> xbonesx: $ is the user prompt
[14:37] <kkal> unetbootin and usb-creator didnt work
[14:37] <v3nd3tta``> kkal for what do you need a winxp usb installer?
[14:37] <jimcooncat> xbonesx: That means you can run it as a regular user. # is used to show that you run it as root
[14:37] <zepek_14> which is the sunJava package on Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[14:37] <v3nd3tta``> you mean
[14:38] <kkal> v3nd3tta``: just need to create a dualboot system
[14:38] <v3nd3tta``> boot from usb a liveubuntu ?
[14:38] <ZykoticK9> zepek_14, you need to add the "partner" repository to get "Sun" java stuff
[14:38] <v3nd3tta``> or win xp live
[14:38] <kkal> v3nd3tta``: I want to install winxp with a usb drive. But I want to make the usb drive in ubuntu
[14:38] <v3nd3tta``> uhm
[14:39] <xbonesx> ok
[14:39] <v3nd3tta``> legally you cannot install win xp per usb or anything else than the official cd's or dvd's kkal
[14:39] <actionParsnip> kkal: http://liliputing.com/2008/04/install-windows-xp-on-mini-note-usb.html
[14:39] <zepek_14> ZykoticK9:  ok. tahnk you i will do it.
[14:39] <actionParsnip> v3nd3tta``: i think the destination is usb, which is fine
[14:39] <kkal> v3nd3tta``: then why are they letting me have licensed isos from dreamspark?
[14:40] <v3nd3tta``> idk? maybe it's MICROSOFT :P? kkal
[14:40] <v3nd3tta``> they never make sense :D
[14:40] <kkal> its always a pain in the ass getting windows on a netbook
[14:41] <kkal> and its also a pain in the ass getting things to work once thats happened too
[14:41] <ZykoticK9> !ot | kkal
[14:42] <kkal> okay. on-topic: is there a tool for ubuntu for creating a bootable winxp usb installers?
[14:42] <actionParsnip> kkal: unetbootin may support it
[14:43] <kkal> actionParsnip: tried it, but it doesnt have an option for winxp
[14:43] <jimcooncat> kkal: there is http://unattended.sourceforge.net/ to do it with netbooting. The servers (TFTP, DHCP, etc) can be installed on Ubuntu
[14:43] <histo> kkal: not that i've seen.  you need to look at the bartpe stuff maybe.
[14:43] <kkal> jimcooncat: thats not a road I want to go down :D
[14:44] <actionParsnip> kkal: all i can find are windows systems putting xp on usb. you could use grub2 to boot the iso
[14:44] <mestar> Hey Ubuntu. I have  a problem and I am wondering if there is any way I can fix it. Basically for whatever reason my memory stick has turned Read Only. I cant delete any files from it no matter what I do, I even tried formatting it from gparted (No important data on there at the moment). Anyone got any suggestions how I can format this USB stick?
[14:44] <histo> kkal: check out bartpe its a bootable live windows cd/dvd
[14:44] <histo> kkal: i've seen people put it on usb.
[14:44] <MohammadAG> is (gedit:11462): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory normal while upgrading to maverick?
[14:45] <kkal> histo: am checking that right now.
[14:45] <ToStItOs> Why are updates noted as not authenticated?
[14:45] <actionParsnip> mestar: unmount the partition and the stick will be a simple block device. if yuo look into mount options you can mount it readable and the format wont be necessary
[14:45] <kkal> actionParsnip: using grub2 to boot an iso, now thats a novel idea
[14:45] <listerdl> Mestar - try maybe putting the drive into a windows and re-format to NTFS?
[14:45] <MohammadAG> ToStItOs, Could be a missing GPG, run apt-get update and see if it corrects it
[14:45] <actionParsnip> kkal: its one of the things grub legacy cant do :)
[14:46] <mestar> Listerdl, not sure how to do that from windows
[14:46] <ToStItOs> MohammadAG, but they are safe right?
[14:46] <orange_> jakarta
[14:46] <mestar> and actionParsnip, what do you mean>
[14:46] <listerdl> mestar - simply lug it in and right click - format - that might be an idea - otherwise sorry not too sure....(I did that before and it worked)
[14:46] <listerdl> *plug
[14:47] <PewZ> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:47] <ToStItOs> MuhammadAG the updates are safe?
[14:47] <mestar> Hmm listerdl, I will try it
[14:48] <MohammadAG> ToStItOs, yeah
[14:49] <septimus> Hello all, looking for some help with my 10.04 install.
[14:49] <morbidwar> septimus: what's the problem?
[14:50] <actionParsnip> mestar: you can specify mount options to mount the partition as writable if you use mount correctly
[14:50] <septimus> Everything is working well, but I'm trying to recompile the kernel for fun..
[14:50] <septimus> Is there a way I can specify CFLAGS to do so (like Gentoo?)
[14:51] <estathe72> hy
[14:51] <estathe72> is here  some italian __
[14:51] <estathe72> ?
[14:52] <mestar> actionParsnip, thanks
[14:52] <mestar> Done it fully =D
[14:54] <BluesKaj> 'morning folks
[14:54] <septimus_> Morning
[14:55] <jvargas> hi
[14:55] <aeon-ltd> time relative greeting
[14:55] <ehcah> hello. if I have 2 DL380 G4's in my rack. The first is production, the second is test. My production box is starting to give me trouble. Can I remove the 2 mirrored drives from production and reboot the test box to become production? Would the only problem become the MAC address of my original product eth0 NIC?
[14:56] <ehcah> Sorry if this is stupid.
[14:56] <jvargas> i have serious problems with Ubuntu 10.04 with latests updates. The system CRASHES after some minutes using it, it seems to be a kernel PANIC, but logs doesn't show anything before it happened.
[14:56] <xbonesx> whats a good desktop video recording software for ubuntu, for making like tutorials and stuff?
[14:56] <septimus_> mgolisch...sorry mate, I'm new to this IRC thing, did you get my question?
[14:56] <jvargas> anyone head of such problem lastly ?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> aeon-ltd, we're pretty tolerant here but political correctness isn't necessary :)
[14:57] <actionParsnip> xbonesx: recordmydesktop maybe
[14:57] <septimus_> jvargas, the kernel should not panic...generic kernel has it disabled. I compiled my kernel last night
[14:57] <septimus_> took about 6 bloody hours
[14:58] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: is the in the reg repositories?
[14:58] <jvargas> septimus_: so, what is going on when caps an num lock flashes and screen and everything gets halted?
[14:58] <actionParsnip> !info recordmydesktop
[14:59] <pokoko222> i have a file from windows for the MAC C Times font, and i want to install it in openoffice writer in ubuntu, how to do it?
[14:59] <septimus_> jvargas: Did you try the failsafe kernel at startup? Hit shift after the POST screen for GRUB options.
[15:00] <listrophy> I'm trying to automate the unintended install of rabbitmq-server via linode stackscripts, but I stops half-way because rabbitmq-server puts up a whiptail dialog. how would I get that dialog dismissed from within a script?
[15:00] <jvargas> why my CAPS and NUM lock flashes intermitently and the system halts anfer some minutes using it (10.04) ?
[15:00] <ertpresso> pokoko222: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[15:00] <septimus_> I am a Linux n00b, perhaps somebody else can provide a more accurate diagnosis?
[15:00] <jvargas> septimus_: what kind of options should I specify there?
[15:00] <actionParsnip> jvargas: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1216386
[15:01] <Eltu> Hi
[15:01] <actionParsnip> jvargas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/372671
[15:01] <Eltu> I have some problems
[15:02] <BlueEagle> !ask|eltu
[15:02] <jvargas> actionParsnip: "it means the kernel has crashed". ok, but how can I dig into the real problem behind?
[15:02] <aeon-ltd> BluesKaj: lol, i was just filling in the time
[15:02] <actionParsnip> jvargas: read dmesg and the kernel log
[15:02] <listrophy> i've tried (to no avail) stuff like: echo "" | aptitude -y install rabbitmq-server
[15:03] <septimus_> jvargas: Just select the appropriate kernel image at boot (failsafe). You should find many options when you hit shift
[15:03] <Eltu> Whenever I plug in my new mouse, I cannot click anything, not with the mouse NOR with the touchpad. I have to plug out the mouse and restart the os for the touchpad to work again. Why does not the mouse work, and how can I fix this?
[15:03] <BSODOfThePast> is it true
[15:03] <BSODOfThePast> that linux gives you eyecancer?
[15:04] <BlueEagle> Eltu: Does it work if you have the mouse plugged in when booting?
[15:04] <totem> how to install virtualbox on ubuntu 10.04? it's hard to do?
[15:04] <septimus_> Folks, anybody know where to find the make.conf file?? I am trying to compile my slimmed down kernel with optimized CFLAGS. {Similar to Gentoo}
[15:04] <Eltu> I do not know, I will try.
[15:04] <BluesKaj> BSODOfThePast  do you have a relavent question about ubuntu ?
[15:04] <BSODOfThePast> yeah
[15:04] <BSODOfThePast> on /g/ they said linux can give you eyecancer
[15:04] <BSODOfThePast> is that true?
[15:04] <Rickardo1> Panic.. My linux machine don´t start.. mount all filesystem can not be mounted
[15:05] <actionParsnip> Rickardo1: boot to liveCD and fsck your partitions
[15:05] <Rickardo1> ok
[15:05] <BlueEagle> !ot| BSODOfThePast
[15:05] <BSODOfThePast> lol sorry
[15:05] <BSODOfThePast> . /troll
[15:07] <BluesKaj> BSODOfThePast, how could you even consider asking such a question and expect an answer to it ..if you want to troll go elsewhere pls.
[15:08] <listrophy> during an aptitude install of rabbitmq-server, it presents a full-screen blue background dialog (via whiptail). How can I – from a script – dismiss it by virtually hitting "return"?
[15:09] <TrXuk> Hi all, quick question, running an 8.10 derivative and due to needed hardware support i've upgraded linux-image packages to 2.6.3x, however, remote netboot clients now cannot mount NFS, saying NFS Over TCP is not available from the host. Could someone point me in the right direction? nfsd.ko and nfs.ko modules are both loaded from the /lib/modules/2.6.3x directory
[15:09] <Eltu> BlueEagle: I tried to have it plugged in when booting. It works just at the beginning - however, as soon as I open a folder/app, both the mouse and touchpad becomes completely unresponsible.
[15:09] <septimus_> Is there another channel where I can ask kernel specific questions?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> !patience | listrophy
[15:09] <ibrahim-kasem> I have downloaded the package files only for an application, where can I fine the files now please?
[15:10] <neekers> ok, dumb question, i just changed my ssh over to using keys and i'm still having to login with my user name and rsa passphrase, i thought having keys would allow you to not have to do that in putty?
[15:10] <septimus_> Eltu: Some laptops have additional binaries you can install. Check the repos
[15:10] <jvargas> actionParsnip: I already read dmesg and syslog, there is nothing there, except a APT Daemon requesting shutdown several minutes before.
[15:10] <listrophy> BluesKaj: just trying to refine my phrasing.
[15:11] <actionParsnip> jvargas: does the bug give you any clues?
[15:11] <Eltu> septimus_: What kind of binaries?
[15:11] <TrXuk> neekers: If your RSA private key is protected by a passphrase, you will need to type that to 'unlock' the RSA key before ssh can use it
[15:11] <RPG-Master> I'm getting this error when I go to mount my external HDD: "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /mount failed"
[15:11] <geoffmcc> neekers: use pagent
[15:11] <RPG-Master> Help D:
[15:11] <BlueEagle> Eltu: Ok. I want you to `ls -l /dev/input/by-path/*|grep mouse` and post the output to !pastebin
[15:11] <gentood> Hi, I just installed ubuntu 10.04 lts and it won't turn off, why?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> quite a technical question , listrophy ...not many questions about rabbitmq server here, never seen even one in fact.
[15:12] <BlueEagle> gentood: "Won't turn off" as in hangs when shutting down or as in doesn't perform the ACPI-call to turn it off?
[15:12] <geoffmcc> neekers: when u import key into program it will ask you for password. but as long as u dont close program key will remain in there free to connect without entering password
[15:12] <TrXuk> neekers: there is a way to cache the RSA key password on your system, so that it is available to putty while you are logged in, as geoffmcc  has just pointed out, it's called pagent
[15:12] <gentood> BlueEagle,  When I click shut down, it kills all the processes and then get's stuck...
[15:13] <listrophy> BluesKaj: technically it's not about rabbitmq, it's about including a whiptail dialog into the install process
[15:13] <gentood> BlueEagle,  Probably...
[15:14] <neekers> TrXuk and geoffmcc: thanks, looking at pageant right now, will i need to do something similar for my macbook pro or will i just be able to use the mac's terminal window?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> listrophy, whiptail dialog ? :)
[15:14] <Eltu> BlueEagle: I cannot do that
[15:14] <BlueEagle> Eltu: What can you not do?
[15:14] <listrophy> BluesKaj: basically ncurses saying "here's a warning about upgrading" even though I'm installing on a clean box. *facepalm
[15:15] <Eltu> When I have the mouse connected, and run the command you gave me above, I so get some information - but I cannot copy it anywhere since neither my mouse nor touchpad works
[15:15] <Eltu> *do get
[15:15] <CenoNode> hey guys
[15:15] <CenoNode> is it just me, or the latest firefox update left it unstartable?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> listrophy, does the install stall or hang at that point , can you proceed ?
[15:16] <BlueEagle> Eltu: If you add >filename.txt after the command (including the >) then the output will be written to that file.
[15:16] <Eltu> Ok.
[15:16] <greenIT> does any1 know how it works to mount a directory with "ecryptfs"?
[15:16] <jvargas> actionParsnip: nothing, it happens randomly when using the system. I disabled acpi already, nothing in log files. how could I diagnose more?
[15:16] <Iulia> hello everybody! I have a question please. Does anybody here has the Creative Sound blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer sound card? Works well on 10.04 ? Thanks
[15:17] <listrophy> BluesKaj: the install hangs at that point, because it's some background process that's running the setup script for the whole computer
[15:17] <CenoNode> Iulia: tried ubuntu forums? google?
[15:17] <Iulia> yes
[15:17] <Iulia> I am on canary islands, idk if that is the reason but dosen't shows up nothing
[15:17] <Iulia> ony a web in spanish and useless
[15:18] <actionParsnip> jvargas: not sure, i'd contribute to taht but though
[15:18] <actionParsnip> Iulia: they can be a pain to get nice
[15:18] <Iulia> Sorry actionParsnip, idk what you mean
[15:18] <CenoNode> Iulia: lol there's no spanish version of the internet, but searching from google.es will show you more results in spanish
[15:19] <actionParsnip> Iulia: they can be painful to get nice, lots of hairpulling and swearing
[15:19] <CenoNode> try the international version (you can switch in the bottom right of the google homepage) or even try www.google.com/linux
[15:19] <ydy> hello every body,yesterday  I install  the xubuntu 10.4 into my computer, but it can't sound
[15:19] <ydy> what could i do ?
[15:19] <Iulia> thanks....
[15:19] <ydy> is there who can give me  a  solution
[15:20] <Iulia> you had sound before, ydy?
[15:20] <BlueEagle> ydy: Well we would have to figure out which sound card you have first. Try the command `lspci -grep|Audio` in a terminal please.
[15:20] <hrrrmmm> google.com/ncr is the correct URL
[15:20] <hrrrmmm> No Country Redirect
[15:20] <BlueEagle> ydy: Make that `lspci |grep Audio` :)
[15:20] <actionParsnip> Iulia: there are guides around. This may also help
[15:20] <actionParsnip> !sound | Iulia
[15:20] <ydy> no,i have never use the xubuntu before ,it is the first time
[15:21] <ydy> thanks Iulia
[15:21] <ydy> thanks ubottu
[15:21] <CenoNode> but really, I'm the only one having problems launching firefox after the last update?
[15:21] <TrXuk> Hi all, quick question, running an 8.10 derivative and due to needed hardware support i've upgraded linux-image packages to 2.6.3x, however, remote netboot clients now cannot mount NFS, saying NFS Over TCP is not available from the host. Could someone point me in the right direction? nfsd.ko and nfs.ko modules are both loaded from the /lib/modules/2.6.3x director
[15:21] <Iulia> No, I had a Sound Blaster before, and older model, now I just got that xfi gamer , so I was asking to know if someone has it, I checked the ALSA web.
[15:22] <Iulia> ydy, you tryed to see if the sound is enabled, and no "mute" enabled?  (I know sounds silly but it happened to me in¡my 1st day with Linux years ago, lol)
[15:22] <xangua> TrXuk: 1. this channel is only for ubuntu support 2. 8.10 is no longer supported
[15:23] <v3nd3tta``> someone got a script to enable wifi stick on a default ubuntu install without starting x?
[15:23] <jk_> TrXuk, when you changed the kernel, did you rebuild all the modules? many of them are quite sensitive to kernel changes and I don't think any will work with a mismatched kernel version...
[15:23] <TrXuk> xangua: How useful, putting redtape around a collective people's open source knowledge can only end badly :P
[15:23] <v3nd3tta``> i mean a init.d srcipt maybe
[15:24] <Eltu> BlueEagle: Ok, I got it - here is the pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/jf0vDgPK
[15:24] <TrXuk> jk_: yes all modules are rebuilt.
[15:24] <TrXuk> Thanks anyway all, i'll ask in a more generic kernel channel
[15:25] <xangua> CenoNode: what update¿ 3.6.10¿ never had any problems with normal updates; or are you using a beta version¿
[15:25] <puwei> hi all, is there any command ,can let me ,send a message to one local net windows pc
[15:25] <BluesKaj> TrXuk, most 8.10 users are discovering the benefits of the new LTS namely Lucid 10.04
[15:26] <CenoNode> xangua: I've running 3.6.9. firefox just dies quietly, even running it from the terminal gives no messages
[15:26] <puwei> and pop a message window for thant winxp user?
[15:26] <CenoNode> I can try updating again if there's a newer version
[15:26] <TrXuk> BluesKaj: I run 10.04/Gentoo/RHEL in a number of places, this is an appliance I am messing with and so cannot update, was really just asking a generic kernel upgrade/NFS issue to see if anyone had come accros it back in the day when they were running 8.10
[15:26] <TrXuk> But thanks :)
[15:27] <BluesKaj> TrXuk, ok :)
[15:27] <BlueEagle> Eltu: Very good. Now I would like to know what syslog sais when you plug in the device.
[15:27] <jk_> CenoNode, 3.6.10 came out in the last couple of days and is in the Lucid repositories. I got it via automatic update and have had no problems at all, but 3.6.9 was also problem free for me.
[15:28] <CenoNode> jk_: I'm updating right now, let's see if it fixes the issue
[15:29] <BlueEagle> Eltu: `tail -f /var/log/messages>syslog.txt` and plug the mouse in and back out TWO TIMES. Press CTRL+C and reboot. Then copy/paste to pastebin.
[15:29] <CenoNode> This firefox thing is happening on both my netbook and my laptop on 10.04, I really thought this would be a common issue
[15:30] <xangua> CenoNode: or maybe an addon you installed in both¿
[15:31] <srini> what does mean dump option in fstab?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> CenoNode, a major FF update came down the pipe during my updates a few days ago , it might fix your issue \
[15:31] <pwh> Please, how do I stop X from trying to load?  I've changed /etc/init.d/rc-sysinit and set default runlevel to 3.  Basically I've restored 10.04 to another PC, without NVIDIA card and need to re-do x, but it keeps trying to load x...I think.  And just cycling the load attemp every 3 seconds.
[15:32] <v3nd3tta``> BluesKaj you know how to auto-embed wifi on a desktop ubuntu install? i want wifi starting without X, that's the biggest matter
[15:34] <foobar_> How can I forward my connection to another machine (where I can login via ssh) which will then give me access to unrestricted internet?
[15:35] <TrXuk> You can use SSH to setup a SOCKS proxy to the machine you are sshing too...
[15:35] <TrXuk> ssh -D 5555 username@ip.address.of.ssh.server
[15:35] <BluesKaj> v3nd3tta``, I understand your issue , wallet asks for the pw in order to connect each session , it's a pita ,but I haven't bothered trying find the workaround even for X
[15:36] <v3nd3tta``> uhm no
[15:36] <timotei> hi all
[15:36] <timotei> I'
[15:36] <TrXuk> once you log into that SSH session, any browser you point at proxy 'localhost, port 5555' will automatically proxy down the SSH tunnel and out via the SSH server's connection
[15:36] <puwei> hello becouse i'm not native english speaking , so plese don't mind my sentece
[15:36] <v3nd3tta``> it's automatically connected when i start x BluesKaj
[15:36] <puwei> hi all, is there any command ,can let me ,send a message to one local net windows pc
[15:36] <timotei> I have an ubunu vps. Ive installed bind9 to make a domain point to the vps. but it doesn't work www.domain.com but only domain.com
[15:36] <timotei> any clues?
[15:36] <titusg> Hi I'm trying to install 10.04 on a laptop and the boot screen hangs before any options are presented -- just an icon of keyboard=person at bottom of screen
[15:36] <puwei> and pop a message window for thant winxp user?
[15:36] <timotei> puwei: that's old
[15:36] <timotei> puwei: starting win xp sp2, the messaging stuff is disabled :)
[15:37] <TrXuk> timotei: could you paste your bind domain.com configuration?
[15:37] <timotei> TrXuk: one sec
[15:37] <TrXuk> timotei: on pastebin and link, don't just dump the whole thhing here
[15:37] <titusg> pressing any key just gives a beep
[15:37] <timotei> of course :P
[15:37] <BluesKaj> v3nd3tta``, ok are you on gnome when X is started?
[15:37] <TrXuk> :)
[15:37] <puwei> thank you timotei
[15:37] <timotei> puwei: yw
[15:37] <etheretic> wop
[15:37] <mindlesstux> is there anyway to force the installer to use a hard drive it is not recognizing?  the drive works perfectly fine via anything else
[15:38] <v3nd3tta``> yeah, it's my homeserver but a desktop installation which doesn't start wifi when no x ist started
[15:38] <BluesKaj> v3nd3tta``, lemme rephrase , when you startx is gnome your desktop?
[15:38] <v3nd3tta``> yeah
[15:39] <leyus> hi
[15:39] <leyus> I just installed ubuntu for a very first time
[15:40] <leyus> and i'm lost
[15:40] <leyus> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/internet/C/connecting-wireless.html
[15:40] <TrXuk> sounds like you need GPS rather than ubuntu :P
[15:40] <leyus> i've seen that
[15:40] <leyus> :D I got GPS but it didn't helped
[15:40] <leyus> im trying to connect to my wireless network
[15:40] <vadi01> leyus: whats the wireless model?
[15:40] <leyus> I've done as they adviced me
[15:40] <titusg> anyone know how to solve problem of being stuck on first screen of install?
[15:40] <BluesKaj> v3nd3tta``,  I'm tryng figure out why it's not in the startup, before any desktop is launched , diff NMs for diff desktops , might have something to do with it so consequently wifi doesn't connect until the desktop is
[15:41] <etheretic> I'm plagued with iowait paralysing my system/cpu, especially when firefox/oolite/amule are running. using iotop, I get the error "CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT not enabled in kernel, cannot determine SWAPIN and IO %", making the cause hard to analyse. Is it a hdparm issue? Enlightened minds, please respond. :-
[15:41] <leyus> Broadcom corporation BCM4401-B0 100 Base - TX (rev 02)
[15:41] <timotei> TrXuk: http://pastebin.com/CGqgZydL
[15:41] <_Trullo> got a problem with a raid5 setup.. I get this errormsg: WARNING: The partition is misaligned by 48128 bytes. This may result in very poor performance. Repartitioning is suggested.
[15:41] <v3nd3tta``> yeah BluesKaj exactly that issue...
[15:41] <_Trullo> anyone got a clue how to fix this?
[15:41] <leyus> it doesn't show any wifi networks
[15:42] <leyus> anyone have any idea why i don't have any wireless networks avaible?
[15:42] <histo> leyus: what kind of wireless card do you have?
[15:42] <leyus> Broadcom corporation BCM4401-B0 100 Base - TX (rev 02)
[15:43] <leyus> histo:
[15:43] <leyus> Broadcom corporation BCM4401-B0 100 Base - TX (rev 02)
[15:43] <histo> leyus: because you need the firmware
[15:43] <histo> leyus: System > admin > hardware drivers
[15:43] <vadi01> leyus: its there.
[15:43] <BluesKaj> v3nd3tta``, there's workaround but it's time consuming andthat's to avoid using NM at all, actionParsnip knows a lot about /etc/network/interfaces set up for wifi .
[15:43] <TrXuk> timotei: You definatley don't need the www. zone you 'added later'
[15:43] <vadi01> leyus: juct click on hardware drivers
[15:43] <srini> what does mean dump option in fstab?
[15:43] <timotei> TrXuk: ok
[15:43] <histo> !broadcom | leyus
[15:43] <vadi01> leyus: and it will be detected automatically as a 3rd party driver
[15:44] <TrXuk> timotei: as that would define www.www.l2-arora.com
[15:44] <timotei> oh
[15:44] <actionParsnip> v3nd3tta``: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[15:44] <titusg> huh, restarting for the nth time got me past that screen -- must have a dodgy cd drive
[15:44] <leyus> no propprietary drivers are in use on this system
[15:44] <leyus> also wifi card seems to be installed just fine
[15:44] <TrXuk> timotei: are you sure lookups are definatley hitting your DNS server, and not being handled by your registrar etc?
[15:44] <timotei> hm
[15:44] <histo> leyus: hold up let me check something
[15:45] <weez^> wat's the latest linux-image?
[15:45] <listrophy> simple question: where are the .deb files and/or apt-get cache stored?
[15:45] <histo> leyus: i'm pretty sure the 440x is ethernet not wireless
[15:45] <timotei> TrXuk: I don't know much stuff about this. Where should I check?
[15:45] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[15:45] <timotei> TrXuk: the registrat told me: add a 'virtual/nonexistent'nameserver name, and assign those ips
[15:46] <konobi1234> 2.6.32-24-generic
[15:47] <WXZ> hey ubuntu
[15:47] <Habs> Hey, is there a way to make native Ubuntu games run in a window rather than running in full screen if there is no in game setting to do so?
[15:47] <WXZ> can you display two diff. workspaces if you have dual monitors?
[15:47] <timotei> TrXuk: how can I check?
[15:49] <TrXuk> timotei: you can use whois to see which nameservers your domain is pointing at
[15:49] <Eltu> 16:29:18 <BlueEagle> Eltu: `tail -f /var/log/messages>syslog.txt` and plug the mouse in and back out TWO TIMES. Press CTRL+C and reboot. Then copy/paste to pastebin.
[15:49] <Eltu> Ok, I did that. I have a /var/log/messages file - should I copy that entire content to pastebin?
[15:50] <TrXuk> whois <domain name>
[15:51] <BlueEagle> Eltu: No, I do not want the entire /var/log/messages file. I want the file syslog.txt that the above command should have produced.
[15:51] <timotei> TrXuk: hmm, In the registrat cp, I've set 2 nameservers, but here in ubuntu configured just one. might that me the problem?
[15:51] <weez^> sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32.24.25 <- -- is this the right command?
[15:51] <Eltu> Where is this syslog.txt file, BlueEagle?
[15:51] <BlueEagle> Eltu: It is in the directory from where you invoked the command.
[15:51]  * etheretic lugs in a huge sign reading "IOWAIT GURU PLEASE RESPOND!!!"
[15:51] <TrXuk> or 'dig ns domain-name.com' on linux will query the DNS system for that domain name's NS (nameserver records)
[15:52] <jan__> hello guys, where I can change brightness applet settings?
[15:52] <TrXuk> timotei: how long ago did you set up the domain and point your CP to your nameservers IP?
[15:52] <Eltu> In other words, it's /var/log/syslog ?
[15:52] <timotei> TrXuk: that was... 1 or 2 days ago.
[15:52] <timotei> TrXuk: right now, removed the second ns. and let the only one
[15:53] <weez^> i want to update my kernel... is this the right command ? sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32.24.25
[15:53] <BlueEagle> Eltu: I do not know where you were when you executed the command and plugged/unplugged the mouse. I am assuming your home directory though.
[15:53] <TrXuk> ns1.l2-arora.com
[15:53] <ikonia> weez^: just sudo apt-get upgrade will update all existing packages
[15:53] <Eltu> Ohh, I see now, BlueEagle - pasting pastebin now
[15:53] <TrXuk> did you have to give the CP the IP address for the nameserver?
[15:53] <ikonia> weez^: if there are updates available the package manager will offer them to you
[15:53] <timotei> TrXuk: yes
[15:53] <lubun2> weez^, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:53] <v3nd3tta``> weez^ if you want a general update, so sudo apt-get update
[15:53] <jan__> some one?
[15:53] <v3nd3tta``> lubun2 why even dist-upgrade? update is enough
[15:54] <timotei> TrXuk: the cp says: Please insert the nameservers that your webhosting company provided you. If you wish to create your own nameservers, insert them at the following fields and click 'Continue'. At the next page you will be asked to insert the nameservers IPs
[15:54] <lubun2> v3nd3tta``, update only updates the index file
[15:54] <timotei> TrXuk: so, i've created my 'own nameserver, and inserted the ip
[15:55] <TrXuk> timotei: is the nameserver on the same IP as your webserver? IE, the IP listed in the DNS zone?
[15:55] <Eltu> BlueEagle: Here is the log: http://pastebin.com/qBu69s8S
[15:56] <timotei> TrXuk: well, the IP is the one of the vps's
[15:56] <lubun2> v3nd3tta``, you update to refresh what's new and then dist-upgrade to upgrade
[15:58] <TrXuk> you can manually test wether your DNS server is reponding correctly by sending a query directly to it from linux
[15:58] <v3nd3tta``> BluseKaj i don't find anything usable at that site...
[15:58] <TrXuk> ie 'dig A www.arora-l2.com @IP.ADDR.OF.YOUR.DNS.SERVER;
[15:58] <TrXuk> *without the ; at the end
[15:59] <histo> TrXuk: dig
[15:59] <timotei>  ok, I'll try
[15:59] <histo> TrXuk: sry thought you were asking don't mind me
[16:00] <TrXuk> histo: sorry, forgot to put name at the beginning of the line :P
[16:00] <neriukas> i'm trying install microsoft visual c++ 2008 :D it's downlloading but it had one bug :D i corrected it :D
[16:00] <timotei> neriukas: what bug?
[16:00] <timotei> lol
[16:01] <v3nd3tta``> timotei it's microsoft so forget it :P
[16:01] <timotei> the vps doesn't have dig
[16:01] <timotei> and apt-get install dig doesn't work
[16:01] <timotei> :|
[16:01] <timotei> TrXuk: ^
[16:01] <histo> timotei: dig should be installed
[16:01] <TrXuk> timotei: I have just run a DNS report against l2-arora.com, it seems the control panel settings you have entered are fine... the problem lies with your DNS server not responding to ANY queries
[16:01] <timotei> TrXuk: ops
[16:01] <neriukas> then i install it couldn't make copy of $shtdwn$ i did copy myself and installation was start :D
[16:01] <timotei> TrXuk: I've just followed a... tutorial
[16:01] <TrXuk> timotei: This could be because 1. Bind 9 isnt running 2. You have a firewall blocking UDP port 53
[16:02] <timotei> TrXuk: yesterday it worked:-?
[16:02] <timotei> one sec
[16:02] <daniel_b_> hi! i installed and configured openvpn. Everything is fine except autostarting the server in daemon mode "/etc/init.d/openvpn start" fails.
[16:02] <daniel_b_>  * Starting virtual private network daemon(s)...                                 *   Autostarting VPN 'server'                                           [fail]
[16:02] <TrXuk> timotei: 3. your VPS provider is blocking UDP port 53
[16:02] <timotei> lol
[16:02] <TrXuk> timotei: Thats now working, what have you changed :)??
[16:02] <timotei> it works
[16:02] <timotei> I started bind
[16:02] <timotei> wtf?
[16:02] <FloodBot2> timotei: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:03] <neriukas> so i'm waiting to install files are downloading now :D
[16:03] <timotei> FloodBot2: I'm not flooding ;)
[16:03] <etheretic> repost: I'm plagued with iowait paralysing my system/cpu, especially when firefox/oolite/amule are running. using iotop, I get the error "CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT not enabled in kernel, cannot determine SWAPIN and IO %", making the cause hard to analyse. Is it a hdparm issue? Enlightened minds, please respond. :-)
[16:03] <TrXuk> timotei: That explains why your DNS server was not responding ;)
[16:03] <TrXuk> timotei: www.l2-arora.com is now replying with the correct IP address
[16:03] <timotei> but something is weird. I've added the www stuff, then restarted it. I didn't indented to stop it:D
[16:03] <Eltu> BlueEagle: What do you get out of those log files? (sorry if you are busy, I'll wait. ;))
[16:03] <timotei> TrXuk: ok. thansk:D
[16:03] <BlueEagle> Eltu: Sorry man. I'm lost as to what may cause this. I do see several USB disconnect events when you plug it in the first time, but I am not sure how to proceed troubleshooting this.
[16:04] <Eltu> Ah.
[16:04] <timotei> TrXuk: do you know how I can make bind run at machine start?
[16:04] <Eltu> It works with some other usb mice, so I guess I'll just buy a new mouse
[16:04] <Eltu> (and throw away the one I just bought :( )
[16:05] <bt4> hellp
[16:05] <bt4> hello :)
[16:05] <|Gaijin|> is there a reason why cairo is lagging alot?
[16:05] <ibrahim-kasem> bt4: hello
[16:05] <bodwick> is it just me or any of you had hardware issues when using 2.4.32-24 from repo?
[16:05] <zaidaus> cairo
[16:05] <xbonesx> I burned my copy of 10.04 to dvd and now i cant access the cd for synaptic package manager, how can i make synaptic look inside of the dvd for packages?
[16:05] <BlueEagle> Eltu: You may try to `cat /dev/input/by-path/pci-0000:00:1d.1-usb-0:1:1.0-event-mouse` and move the mouse around and see if it produces any output (ie. it is not the input that is broken but the way the input is handled)
[16:06] <_Trullo> xbones, it's in the config file
[16:06] <xbonesx> _Trullo: where would the synaptic package managers config file be?
[16:06] <Eltu> BlueEagle: I tried using the mouse on other computers, too. I tried it on a windows computer - everything worked. I tried it on another Ubuntu computer - got the exact same problem.
[16:06] <TrXuk> timotei: you'll want to look at update-rc.d
[16:07] <neriukas> i had beed installed to wine dev c++ and pulles c compilers :D all works
[16:07] <BlueEagle> Eltu: Well it is a "Gaming mouse 1600" and google doesn't have much info on those.
[16:07] <_Trullo> don't remember, but it's where you add packages you want to update, looking for dvd is in there, just remove the line
[16:07] <TrXuk> 'man update-rc.d' for the help pages
[16:07] <TrXuk> timotei: for future reference, this site reports on where your DNS is going wrong: http://www.intodns.com/
[16:07] <_Trullo> xbonesx, /etc/sources.list
[16:08] <drecute> hello
[16:08] <drecute> i'm installing ubuntu via a usb stock
[16:08] <drecute> i'm installing ubuntu via a usb stick
[16:08] <drecute> after the first screen, i get this: ubuntu unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[16:08] <drecute> any ideas please
[16:08] <puwei> how can i ban other LAN computer  ping my pc?
[16:08] <drecute> ubuntu version is 10.04
[16:08] <timotei21> TrXuk: did you said anything? my iRc crashed
[16:09] <TrXuk> TrXuk: timotei: for future reference, this site reports on where your DNS is going wrong: http://www.intodns.com/
[16:09] <xbonesx> _Trullo: ty
[16:09] <fordfasterr> my system gives this error: http://pastebin.com/LXebjHJS when I try to enable users and groups.
[16:09] <TrXuk> timotei21: and you need to look at update-rc.d for your startup needs
[16:09] <drecute> anybody pls
[16:09] <puwei> or fake than computer ,when they scan the all LAN ,i want my computer don't reply it
[16:09] <timotei21> TrXuk: ok. Thank you so much ;)
[16:10] <listrophy> solution to my issue re unattended install of rabbitmq-server: DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get -y install rabbitmq-server
[16:10] <puwei> or fake that computer ,when they scan the all LAN ,i want my computer don't reply it
[16:11] <alaing> how do i add synapatic package manager to my gnome-desktop environment
[16:11] <TrXuk> puwei: you can set up a firewall (such as IPTables) to drop inbound ICMP echo requests (ping requests).
[16:11] <alaing> for my server edition?
[16:11] <xbonesx> _Trullo: doesnt exist?
[16:11] <Kage> How do I change my default sound card?
[16:11] <puwei> TrXuk    great idear thank you
[16:11] <TrXuk> puwei: but if someone is on the same physical network as you (such as an office network/home network all on the same network switch) people will always be able to see if your host is there due to ARP traffic
[16:12] <xbonesx> _Trullo: did you mean, '/etc/apt/sources.list' ???
[16:12] <BluesKaj> v3nd3tta``, check this site for shell scripting , http://bash.cyberciti.biz/guide/Main_Page
[16:12] <_Trullo> xbonesx, it's in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:12] <_Trullo> yes
[16:12] <xbonesx> ok lol
[16:12] <_Trullo> had to google and took first hit from 2002 apparently
[16:12] <xbonesx> has anyone in got flashfxp to work, or have a recommended FTP program???
[16:12] <v3nd3tta``> Chapter 1: What is a Linux? ahahaha
[16:12] <puwei> no problem, they just nobe, even don't know ARP  :)
[16:12] <v3nd3tta``> uhm xbonesx
[16:12] <theoros> if i install 10.10 beta, will any fixes between now and the public release be brought into effect as part of an update? since there's a freeze now on basically everything, i would suspect this is the case. i am happy to do a fresh reinstall when the actual public release is made, if this would have any beneficial effect
[16:13] <v3nd3tta``> every flebrowser should do that
[16:13] <drecute> i am seeing after the first screen: ubuntu unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[16:13] <simion314> hi, i can't connect to festival server from localhost, i get this message"  ASUS.local not in access list  " here is my etc/hosts http://pastebin.com/0QRnLFt7  strange is i comented the ASUS there but festival it still sees it as ASUS
[16:14] <alaing> with my server edition how do I setup my network connection(wifi) so it connects on bootup and rreconnects if the conneciton is lost.
[16:14] <jan__> guys where I can found the gnome applet brightness configuration
[16:14] <conb123>  Anyone else having trouble with fglrx in 2.6.32-24? I get this when trying to install http://pastebin.com/vu7AFMB9 this is my make.log http://pastebin.com/fnMVvdh2
[16:15] <drecute> after the first screen, i get this: ubuntu unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[16:15] <drecute> first installation
[16:16] <ikonia> drecute: you are not installing from a CD ?
[16:18] <Eltu> BlueEagle: kept testing some things, I noticed some interesting stuff. First off - when everything hangs, if I press the little red button that is present on the mouse (which I have no idea what it does) - it unfreezes for a while, for some reason.
[16:18] <Eltu> Second, I noticed my mouse sensitivity was set to 0 in the mouse options dialog
[16:18] <Eltu> I tried to increase it a little, and it seems to have had a positive effect
[16:18] <geoffmcc> 2 computers A & B, both w/ ssh. Router forwards ssh port to Computer A. Is it safe to assume only way to reach Computer B from internet is threw A?
[16:19] <alaing> with my server edition how do I setup my network connection(wifi) so it connects on bootup and rreconnects if the connection is lost.
[16:20] <ikonia> geoffmcc: depends on your router configuration
[16:20] <TrXuk> geoffmcc: providing you have NAT/Stateful firewalling on your router, pretty much yes
[16:20] <ikonia> aarcane: why are you using server edition if you want desktop wirless functionality ?
[16:20] <drecute> after the first screen of installing ubuntu from a USB syick, i get this: ubuntu unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[16:20] <BlueEagle> Eltu: This is not a wireless mouse, is it?
[16:20] <ikonia> drecute: are you not installing from a CD ?
[16:20] <aarcane> ikonia, I'm not?
[16:20] <Eltu> BlueEagle: no, it is a wired mouse.
[16:20] <Eltu> Oh, now I see
[16:20] <ikonia> aarcane: you said you where using server edition
[16:21] <ikonia> aarcane: ahhh sorry, not you
[16:21] <BlueEagle> Eltu: The "little red button" could it be a sensitivit adjuster?
[16:21] <Eltu> I checked on the internet, and apparently the little red button switches DPI
[16:21] <ikonia> alaing: I suggest you use the desktop version of ubuntu to make wirless networking simple
[16:21] <ikonia> aarcane: apologies
[16:21] <aarcane> ikonia, aah, no problem :)
[16:21] <geoffmcc> TrXuk: ok, thank you
[16:22] <BlueEagle> Eltu: Try staring xev from a terminal emulator and move the mouse into the white window. There press the DPI-adjuster and see which events it throws out. Then it is just a matter of finding out where these events are caught and do something useful with them.
[16:22] <Eltu> Terminal *emulator*?
[16:23] <Somelauw> Is there a cool command which tells me about my processor, clock speed and whatever?
[16:23] <BlueEagle> Eltu: That is any terminal window in X (ie. do not press CTRL+ALT+F1 and use one of those terminals.
[16:23] <Roasted> is there any way to stop video tearing? Been 5 years on hoping for a fix. Ru nning nvidia - still got it with vsync changed and compiz off.
[16:23] <ikonia> Somelauw: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[16:23] <aarcane> Somelauw, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[16:23] <aarcane> ikonia, jynx
[16:24] <Gnea> on irc, it is never a jynx :)
[16:24] <Guest94655> How difficult is it to set up my server to work as a DNS intermediary, allowing my to forward any requests directly routed to me to a new DNS, and then allow me to make exceptions?
[16:24] <ikonia> Guest94655: why would you want to do that ?
[16:25] <ikonia> StSapphire: it would be more sensible to just use your IPS's dns servers
[16:25] <ikonia> ISP's even
[16:25] <Eltu> BlueEagle: Ah.
[16:25] <Gnea> Guest37232: extremely
[16:25] <StSapphire> ikonia: It's a bit of an obscure use, but I've got a DS game that attempts to connect to Nintendo's servers. I'm writing a program on my server to emulate theirs, allowing people to point their DNS to my server and then interact with my code instead of Nintendo's.
[16:25] <Roasted> is there any way to stop video tearing? Been 5 years on hoping for a fix. Ru nning nvidia - still got it with vsync changed and compiz off.
[16:25] <aarcane> StSapphire, it's simple to have absolute control over your own domain, or to have pure proxy with no local data, but mixing your own data + default data for a single domain is difficult.
[16:26] <ikonia> StSapphire: just setup a local hostfile route for that
[16:26] <ikonia> StSapphire: using a dns solution for that is a massive overkill
[16:26] <Gnea> Roasted: video tearing?
[16:26] <etheretic> Does anyone know how to resolve IOWAIT issues?
[16:27] <StSapphire> ikonia: hostfile would redirect anyone directing their DNS requests to my server to the correct IP?
[16:27] <ikonia> etheretic: can depend on many reasons
[16:27] <aarcane> Roasted, I have no video tearing with nvidia graphics, try turning on vdpau and forcing vsync at every level ylou can (including exporting it in the environment variables)
[16:27] <carmela> raga ce qualcuno che mi puo aiutare per un dilemma sul mio pc
[16:27] <carmela> '??
[16:27] <ikonia> StSapphire: that's their dns that does that, you can only control your own dns
[16:27] <Roasted> aarcane, where is the vdpau setting at?
[16:27] <aarcane> ikonia, actually, a hosts file doesn't work because the DS can't have a hosts file
[16:27] <carmela> italiani??
[16:27] <StSapphire> ikonia: For the solution to work, I have to be able to set the DNS on a Nintendo DS device to point to my server.
[16:27] <aarcane> Roasted, I've given you enough to google a solution.
[16:27] <ikonia> aarcane: no, but the dns server it's using (your server) can map with a host file
[16:27] <etheretic> ikonia: I know - been searching web b4 coming here. No hitssoutions applied.
[16:27] <aarcane> ikonia, true
[16:27] <Roasted> aarcane, wow. I thought this was a support channel? are you serious?
[16:28] <Gnea> Roasted: no need for that.
[16:28] <TrXuk> does anyone remember the default NFS version for 8.10?
[16:28] <Roasted> Gnea, need for what?
[16:28] <aarcane> Roasted, there's a freaking wiki page that tells you exactly what you need to know, I'm not going to go read you the wiki page over IRC.
[16:28] <Gnea> !attitude
[16:28] <Roasted> aarcane, thanks for your help. I'll wait for someone else to chime in.
[16:28] <Roasted> Gnea, please bring that to aarcane's attention.
[16:28] <Roasted> thank you!
[16:28] <Gnea> Roasted: I'm sure he saw it.
[16:28] <andybe> does anyone use ati graficcard
[16:29] <Roasted> let's hope.
[16:29] <Gnea> let's hope you're beyond it.
[16:29] <Avasz> does xubuntu really run faster than ubuntu in old pcs?
[16:29] <Roasted> looks like somebody out there should be taking a quick scan over their own advice
[16:29] <StSapphire> ikonia: So, if I have my local machine's host file to 4.2.2.1 except for 2-3 domain names which instead are routed to localhost, then if someone points their DNS to my IP, and makes a call, my machine will resolve that for them properly?
[16:29] <Kage> How do I change my default sound card?
[16:29] <Hald> anyone know if/how I can remove the first partition on sda and add it to '/' and '/home' partition?
[16:30] <Gnea> Avasz: a bit, but opengeo might do a bit better on 486's
[16:30] <andybe> Avasz: need less memory, but faster ist the wrong word.
[16:30] <aarcane> ikonia, StSapphire add a hosts file on the ROUTER, and dnsmasq, if properly configured, can use it to override individual entries, IE for the DS game.
[16:30] <Avasz> !opengeo
[16:30] <StSapphire> aarcane: And that will work for people outside of my router pointing to my IP?
[16:30] <etheretic> ikonia: could it have something to do with the kernel lacking support for iotop requirements?
[16:31] <ryanjamieson> Hey all - I've got an issue with my sound - Ubuntu is using the intel module by default when it should be using the VIA module.  How do I change it?
[16:31] <Avasz> andybe, what about in pc with 600 MHz and 300 mb ram.. what do you recommend? ubuntu or xubuntu?
[16:31] <Out`Of`Control> Hi, What is the bext VM with python/apache support?
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> Avasz:  perhaps Lubuntu
[16:31] <Gnea> Avasz: sorry, opengeu - http://opengeu.intilinux.com
[16:31] <ryanjamieson> Avasz, xubuntu all the way
[16:31] <Gnea> Avasz: it's not official, but it's there
[16:31] <aarcane> StSapphire, no, it'll work for you to test, and anyone else wanting to use your private server will have to install similar hacks.  However, if you could just push whatever information you wanted into global DNS, there would be a whole host of other issues.
[16:31] <ryanjamieson> Avasz, but with those specs, you might as well just forget a gui
[16:32] <ryanjamieson> unless you went with fluxbox
[16:32] <Avasz> Gnea, ok tks. I will take a look.
[16:32] <Avasz> ryanjamieson, why? is it so bad?
[16:32] <Out`Of`Control> Or i need to ask in other channel?
[16:33] <Gnea> ryanjamieson: those aren't horrible specs, even E17 wouldn't have a problem on it
[16:33] <ryanjamieson> Avasz, you just don't have a lot of horsepower. Xfce is light, but there's always a lower limit.
[16:33] <drecute> ikonia: i dont know why the computer refused to boot from cd
[16:33] <aarcane> StSapphire, for people outside your network to be able to use it, you have to configure port forwarding for all the relavent ports to your server (or run the server on your router -- bad idea) and publish the information people need to find it.
[16:33] <joeyeye> msg h auth joeyeye agrajag1
[16:33] <drecute> so i had to use unetbootin
[16:33] <ryanjamieson> Well, give it a whirl. :) It's only an install.  You can switch later.
[16:33] <Gnea> consider the fact that even windows 98 and XP ran on such specs at one point
[16:33] <Avasz> ryanjamieson, yes you are correct. It stucks many times.
[16:33] <ryanjamieson> Gnea, true
[16:33] <Avasz> Gnea, yes. I have two harddisk.. one with xp sp1.
[16:34] <Gnea> I mean, heh, are you going to let those OS's trump Ubuntu? :)
[16:34] <ryanjamieson> Gnea, but we were more patient then, too. ;)
[16:34] <Avasz> no way
[16:34] <JamaKris> Need help mounting a usb external ntfs hdd w/ 3 partitions on ubuntu ... it says not authorized when i plug up to laptop
[16:34] <drecute> ikonia: which copied the files properly. But during installation i'm getting: ubuntu unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[16:34] <Gnea> ryanjamieson: that patience requires renewal ;)
[16:34] <alaing> ikonia i have installed the gnome-desktop on my server edition
[16:34] <JamaKris> can someone help me
[16:34] <aarcane> Avasz, if ubuntu doesn't run well enough, a graphics card would take alot of the load of a gui off the CPU.  failing that, ubuntu is fast and light even on a 200mhz system I have running
[16:35] <aarcane> Avasz, s/ubuntu/debian/.
[16:35] <Gnea> !ntfs
[16:35] <StSapphire> aarcane: Well, my server is on a dmz, so all ports are forwarded. It essentially boils down to the fact that the average age of my users will be around 13 - it's easy to show them how to change the DNS server on their DS. Not so easy to show them how to modify their own server to work just on their system
[16:35] <xbonesx> is the contents of the live cd's '/etc/apt/sources.list' file the same as the installed version of ubuntu 10.04???
[16:35] <Avasz> aarcane, you are running ubuntu in 200 mhz system?
[16:35] <aarcane> Avasz, no, debian.  it was a typo.
[16:36] <StSapphire> So while running my own DNS daemon might be overkill, I imagine it would be the simplest solution for myself and my users.
[16:36] <aarcane> StSapphire, I'd suggest using dnsmasq with a hosts file then, as bind is quite a bit more...  work.
[16:36] <xbonesx> I need to know cuz i somehow deleted the contents of my '/etc/apt/sources.list' file... :(
[16:37] <StSapphire> aarcane: Okay, I'll take a look at that, thanks :)
[16:39] <alaing> with my server edition how do I setup my network connection(wifi) so it connects on bootup and rreconnects if the connection is lost.
[16:40] <actionParsnip> xbonesx: http://pastebin.com/naVFmWCY
[16:40] <JamaKris> !fuse
[16:40] <madjoe> hi! is there any application that would work only when I right-click on any image and give me an option to convert/resize those images?
[16:40] <JamaKris> !ntfs-3g
[16:41] <SeaOrifice> My laptop uses  Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Desktop Edition and I have these questions : 1) I had seen an application which on every keystroke displays ascii value of it and some more information about it . I need to know its name 2) I am doubtful about the version i am using , my processor is 64 bit but gnome system manager displays only 2.96gb than 4gb of mine
[16:41] <aarcane> alaing, I know a few not-very-ubuntu options, if noone in #ubuntu-server can help you, I'd be willing to tip you off to my uncosher methods.
[16:41] <actionParsnip> SeaOrifice: xev for number 1
[16:41] <BSODOfThePast> Did Canonical fixed random freezes yet in 10.04?
[16:41] <BSODOfThePast> it has to do with the latest kernel i think
[16:41] <actionParsnip> SeaOrifice: uname -a   wil show the arch of the Ubuntu
[16:41] <zhionofjulian> any body know how to get free cd ubuntu?
[16:41] <actionParsnip> SeaOrifice: i686 = 32bit, x86_64 = 64bit
[16:42] <actionParsnip> zhionofjulian: look into shippit
[16:42] <IdleOne> !info nautilus-image-converter
[16:42] <hoare> hi guys. I am having problems with VIM on Ubuntu. I press "i" to get in INSERT MODE. however when I press lets say up-arrow I get "A" on the new line ....
[16:42] <aarcane> SeaOrifice, you can either use 64 bit ununtu, or you can install a "pae" kernel, if you run aptitude search pae you'll find the right kernel
[16:42] <zhionofjulian> ubuntu said that i have too many request
[16:42] <zhionofjulian> i only get 3 cd before
[16:43] <IdleOne> zhionofjulian: download and burn your own
[16:43] <hoare> ^ I've a vim problem
[16:43] <SeaOrifice> got it actionParsnip , thanks
[16:43] <aarcane> hoare, which flavor of vim did you install ?
[16:43] <zhionofjulian> but i need the last version of ubuntu
[16:43] <SeaOrifice> aarcane: I would prefer changing to 64bit one, :)
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> hoare:  install the vim-full package..
[16:43] <hoare> Dr_Willis: ok
[16:43] <neriukas> i686=32 intel x86-64 = 32/64 bit intell amd
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> hoare:  or 'vim' instead of the vim-tiny thats teh default
[16:43] <hoare> hmm there is no vim-full in my repos
[16:44] <xbonesx> can anyone confirm whether the contents of the '/etc/apt/sources.list' on the LIVE CD is the same as the fresh installed '/etc/apt/sources.list' file???
[16:44] <aarcane> SeaOrifice, well, that's easy.  back up your install (tar, dd, scp, etc.), then download, burn, install the 64 bit ISO, and then restore such stuff as your home directory and use the logs to determine which packages to reinstal.
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> hoare:  the default is a limited version of vim. install the otehr bigger versions - whatever its called
[16:44] <hoare> Dr_Willis: I see
[16:44] <alaing> how do i add synapatic package manager to my gnome-desktop environment
[16:45] <hoare> Dr_Willis: it is okay now. thx!
[16:45] <Gnea> hoare: apt-cache search vim
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> alaing:  sudo apt-get install synaptic
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> alaing:  it should be in the system-> admin  menus
[16:45] <collabra> xbonesx: http://pastebin.com/naVFmWCY
[16:45] <alaing> Dr_Willis: i'll try that now
[16:45] <mandric> where can i get a package of supervisor?
[16:45] <alaing> i dont think its install
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> alaing:  then install it and see
[16:45] <mandric> it's not available via aptitude
[16:45] <alaing> brb just going to try it
[16:45] <zhionofjulian> how to install ym oin ubuntu??
[16:45] <JamaKris> Need help mounting a usb external ntfs hdd w/ 3 partitions on ubuntu ... it says not authorized when i plug up to laptop but shows my drive in disk utility just will not mount to desktop please help.. important files need to accdess
[16:45] <zhionofjulian> please help me
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> !im | zhionofjulian
[16:46] <jonkri> hey everyone. i'm on windows trying to install ubuntu. i have no cd/dvd drive, only a usb stick. i used these instructions [ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick ] and unetbootin. when booting i get an error saying "ubuntu boot halts at no init found. try passing init= bootarg". i have also tried preparing the usb stick on fedora, and with liveusb creater. anyone got any advice for me?
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> JamaKris:  mount it as root.. or install/run ntfs-config as root. and it should let the users mount/access them.
[16:46] <zhionofjulian> i want install like gyachi but i always failed
[16:46] <xbonesx> collabra: have you added repositories to yours?
[16:46] <saji89> zhionofjulian, What is this ym oin?
[16:47] <zhionofjulian> i dont know how to add repository
[16:47] <saji89> zhionofjulian, What is this and gyachi?
[16:47] <jonkri> oh, i'm trying to install 10.10 beta
[16:47] <xangua> zhionofjulian: sudo add-apt-repository "ppa's name"
[16:47] <xangua> !maverick | jonkri
[16:47] <egsome> !10.10 | jonkri
[16:47] <collabra> xbonesx: actually that is a re-post of actionParsnip,... you would have to ask him
[16:48] <collabra> xbonesx: re-post,... from actionParsnip,.. scroll up.
[16:48] <zhionofjulian> xangua: can you give me tutorial?
[16:48] <sanjoy> pls some1 help me
[16:48] <egsome> !help | sanjoy
[16:48] <JamaKris> dr willis how do i mount as root
[16:49] <xbonesx> collabra: i totally missed his message...
[16:49] <sanjoy> my browser both chorme n mozila r craushing
[16:49] <xander_> sanjoy what do you need help with
[16:49] <xangua> zhionofjulian: i just did it :S you can also conect to yahoo with empathy, pidgin, kopete if you are using kde, etc
[16:49] <collabra> :)
[16:49] <egsome> sanjoy, What exactly happen ?
[16:49] <xander_> crashing when upon launch
[16:49] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: have you added repositories to that file???
[16:49] <zhionofjulian> yeach i know... but i want to join room on ym
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> JamaKris:  sudo mount /dev/DEVICENAME /media/location     -t ntfs-3g  or 'sudo ntfs-3g /dev/devicename /media/Locatiion' Or just install/run the ntfs-config tool and check teh box's to allow users to mount
[16:50] <sanjoy> i start my browser bt after couple of minute it suddenly closed without any notice
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs | JamaKris
[16:50] <actionParsnip> xbonesx: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list     or you can use the ppa line from the repo in software sources
[16:50] <sanjoy> it is happening again n again though i restart ed my pc
[16:50] <alaing> Dr_Willis: thansk synaptic
[16:50] <alaing> installed
[16:51] <zhionofjulian> i have many problem with my vga-card
[16:51] <Somelauw> ikonia, aarcane: thanks
[16:51] <zhionofjulian> any body help me?
[16:51] <egsome> sanjoy, I mean, How that happen ?, For example `crash happen when i open youtube or any site have flash` and so on ..
[16:51] <zhionofjulian>  iam using NVIDIA Geforce mx 400
[16:51] <egsome> !ask | zhionofjulian
[16:51] <alaing> with my server edition how do I setup my network connection(wifi) so it connects on bootup and rreconnects if the connection is lost.
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> zhionofjulian:  that meebo web site can get to many of those IM chat places also
[16:51] <xander_> i gotta admit it were my browser i would just delete the .mozillia folder and start over but seeing how its also chrome it leaves to wonder
[16:52] <zhionofjulian> after i insatall my vga the rsolusion of screen only 640x480
[16:52] <sanjoy> just anything.... i start browser n it loads home page "google"
[16:52] <pkhamre> Will I loose data on my raid if I rebuild my raid with mdadm?
[16:52] <sanjoy> then after some minute it closed suddenly
[16:52] <JamaKris> dr_willis is ntfs-config  installed on ubuntu maverick
[16:52] <alaing> what netowrk packages does the desktop edition use
[16:52] <zhionofjulian> so i can not get 1024x768 resolusion
[16:52] <egsome> sanjoy, That happen with Firefox and Chrome ?, Did you build them or installed from repos. ?
[16:53] <Poseidon_lp_22> Alguien que quiera ganar unos dolares sin mucho esfuerzo ? requisito estar en Estados Unidos!
[16:53] <sanjoy> installed from repos
[16:53] <BlueEagle> !es| Poseidon_lp_22
[16:53] <xander_> im thinking of a extinsion they both have that maybe causing them both to crash (though it's a stretch)
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> JamaKris:  i said install/run it.. :) its not installed by default
[16:53] <shcherbak>   /away
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> !info ntfs-config
[16:53] <zhionofjulian> ubottu: thank for advice
[16:54] <JamaKris> ok... im new to this .. so how do you install and run it
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> JamaKris:  use the package manager, then run it from the terminal. gksudo ntfs-config
[16:54] <shcherbak> how do i scroll in screen?
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> JamaKris:  odd that its not asking for your users password when accessing the ntfs parittions from the places/computer menu..
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> JamaKris:  i thought that was the default bahavior
[16:55] <madjoe> nautilus-image-converter
[16:56] <sanjoy> helow :|
[16:56] <JamaKris> no its not asking for pass
[16:56] <madjoe> sanjoy: hell low
[16:56] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: do you have to run like a 'chmod' line on the file to get it too work?
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> zhionofjulian:  you really should be asking questions in the channel. not in Priv. messages
[16:57] <sammy> I have a vfat volume that mounts automagically in ubuntu, and I'd like to set the uid and gid and umask for the mount. I found docs that pointed me to gconf, but those entries seem to be depreciated? at least, the ones I added aren't being recognized. how do I define the mount options for automagically mounted hal volumes?
[16:57] <Habs> Hello, I'm running out of HD space on my Ubuntu 10.04 partitioned with Wubi, and I'm a complete Ubuntu Noob. How would go about editing the size of my Ubuntu partition?
[16:57] <zhionofjulian> dr_willis ok
[16:57] <Dr_Willis> sammy:  if its an internal drive. you could just make a fstab entry for it.. actually you could make one for it if its external also.
[16:57] <sammy> Habs: gparted works well.
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> I dont think gparted can resize a 'wubi' install
[16:58] <sammy> Dr_Willis: I know, there's fstab, but hal is mounting the volume, and I should be able to tell hal who to mount the drive as
[16:58] <collabra> xbonesx: you need to be root....something like this: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list      ........ then cut and paste
[16:59] <actionParsnip> xbonesx: no, the file is a simple text file, not to be made executable
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> sammy:   thers been so many changes to hal and so on.. and they keep getting replaced.. Im not even sure HAL is used in 10.04 any more
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> !hal
[16:59] <collabra> xbonesx: <ctrl> X   <------ to save and exit
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> sammy:  i forget what the replacement to hal is called.. udev perhaps?
[16:59] <sammy> Dr_Willis: does wubi only create installs within the windows partition? in that case, he'd have to use something to resize the image file that's getting mounted
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> sammy:  i dont use wubi.. but i think thats how it works..
[17:00] <StSapphire> Is there a way to see if my computer's bluetooth receiver is turned on?
[17:00] <xbonesx> collabra: im familiar with "vi" been using that so that is what i used and it worked
[17:00] <sammy> Dr_Willis: udev, yeah, maybe udev is doing the mounting. I'll dig a bit deeper. I know I can set a fstab entry for the volume, but I wanted to do it the RightWay, if there was one. seems like other people should be running into vfat volumes being automagicallyl mounted with only a single user's ownership.
[17:00] <collabra> xbonesx: right on.... :)
[17:01] <Habs> sammy, I have gparted and I'm looking at it right now, and I have one "unallocated" with no label, one "/dev/sda1" with a label of "SYSTEM_DRV", one "/dev/sda2" label "Windows7_OS" and one "/dev/sda3" label "Lenovo_Recovery".
[17:01] <SOUS> народ
[17:01] <Habs> I'm guessing System_DRV is the one I want to rezise?
[17:01] <SOUS> помогите советом
[17:01] <sanjoy> my browser is closing suddenly after i start da browser ... its happening non stop....... not for many pages i load or for im loading big page or downloading file........... it just happening without any reason........ pls help
[17:01] <sammy> Habs: sorry, I misspoke. wubi doesn't mess with your partition table by default, it creates a giant image file in your windows partition, and mounts that image as a volume
[17:02] <shcherbak> Habs Start from formating sda2
[17:02] <shcherbak> Habs best you can do
[17:02] <sammy> Habs: you'll have to resize that image file, and the partition within it. I think there are some docs about how to do that, lemme look
[17:02] <Habs> @sammy, oh. Thanks ahead of time.
[17:02] <JamaKris> thank you dr_willis its working now
[17:03] <amen51> hi all, i am having a network problem, I was wondering anybody has a fix
[17:03] <xander_> sammy you think he should D/L a iso of gparted and use that
[17:03] <collabra> !ru | SOUS
[17:03] <actionParsnip> amen51: details please
[17:03] <amen51> after upgrading to lucid, there seems to be occasional drops in connection when connecting to wireless networks
[17:04] <zhionofjulian> how to change myu resolution screen on my vga carad(nvidia-geforce mx400)
[17:04] <amen51> also, after, the connection drops usually it is not going to come back unless I do a hard boot
[17:04] <amen51> reboot
[17:04] <amen51> this also happens sometimes after suspend
[17:05] <amen51> (there seems to be bugs reported about this behavior and people seem to be holding network-manager responsible
[17:05] <juliohm> OpenOffice Impress Fullscreen mode has a bug when compiz is active. The bars still there. Anyone solve this problem?
[17:05] <linziyan> 我想问个问题.....
[17:05] <linziyan> 这里说不定又中国人......
[17:05] <amen51>  i haven't found any solutions/fixes yet
[17:05] <xander_> amen51 i had that problem for so long drove me insane there's a fix in one of the launch reports but dont remember how
[17:05] <actionParsnip> amen51: when it drops, run: dmesg | tail    it will give clues
[17:05] <FusionX> i recently installed xubuntu 10.4 using wubi under my windows C: drive (4 GB). Now sometimes after booting up xubuntu, the screen crashes at random times and starts blinking white stripes on half of the screen. And also when xubuntu boots up the logo appears very pixelly and looks as if it is run in safe mode and before the logo appears a quick green color flashes on the screen. My xorg.0.log -->
[17:05] <FusionX> http://pastebin.com/uAy3NS4f . I use Samsung syncmaster 794mg monitor and my driver is intel 82845G. I use 1152x864 resolution while my monitor supports upto 1280x1024 resolution. Help me Please!
[17:05] <FusionX> edit : I tested on all resolutions and it seems that the display is crashing on all of the resolutions
[17:06] <FloodBot2> FusionX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:06] <ibrahim-kasem> !cn | linziyan
[17:06] <FusionX> sorry ooops
[17:06] <sammy> Habs: looks like your best bet is to either migrate your wubi install to a full install (with its own partition(s) on the hard drive) or break off your /home (if its large enough to make a difference) into a separate virtual disk with more space, freeing up the space in your root partition.
[17:06] <amen51> xander_, i would appreciate if you could direct me to it somehow
[17:06] <IRNBR00> Hello all!
[17:06] <linziyan> 中文没人理我了.....
[17:06] <rajiv_nair> IRNBR00: hi
[17:06] <linziyan> 要不然能来这么.....
[17:06] <sanjoy> my browser is closing suddenly after i start da browser ... its happening non stop....... not for many pages i load or for im loading big page or downloading file........... it just happening without any reason........ pls help
[17:06] <sanjoy> my browser is closing suddenly after i start da browser ... its happening non stop....... not for many pages i load or for im loading big page or downloading file........... it just happening without any reason........ pls help
[17:06] <FloodBot2> sanjoy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:06] <xander_> hang on let me see if i can google it
[17:06] <amen51> actionParsnip, it says wlan0 disocciated by choice or something like that
[17:06] <amen51> it keeps droping and reconnecting
[17:07] <actionParsnip> amen51: what wireless chip is it?
[17:07] <amen51> (and eventually gives up)
[17:07] <sanjoy> i cant run my browser
[17:07] <shcherbak> sanjoy: what browser
[17:07] <collabra> !cn
[17:07] <amen51> intel i guess
[17:07] <Dulak> !cn | linziyan
[17:07] <amen51> let me check
[17:07] <amen51> (it is a thinkpad t400 laptop)
[17:07] <sanjoy> chrome n firefox
[17:07] <ksbalaji> Hello after 1 month, I am on a 10.4 ubuntu livecd! - still have to reinstall
[17:07] <linziyan> ok
[17:07] <linziyan> then  i  speak  english...
[17:07] <linziyan> that's  ok?
[17:07] <amen51> Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection
[17:07] <ksbalaji> now, If I reinstall, would the home folder  remain intact in the system partition?
[17:08] <collabra> linziyan: sure :)
[17:08] <IRNBR00> Just managed to get my MSI X410 working with Ubuntu the wireless card was a pain in the ass
[17:08] <shcherbak> sanjoy: try to start them from terminal and see output, then google err if any
[17:08] <Screw> hello for all
[17:08] <linziyan> is  there  anyone who knows  about fcitx   input  ways?
[17:08] <Habs> sammy... Hm. How would I go about migrating my wubi to a full install with real partitions?
[17:08] <sammy> Habs: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide - there's instructions on how to migrate your wubi install to a real install, and also instructions to break off your /home into a new virtual disk.
[17:09] <collabra> !fcitx
[17:09] <Habs> Sammy, thanks a lot.
[17:09] <xander_> try this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/374847and this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/295414  its a network manage problem
[17:09] <IRNBR00> Can any one please link me to a tutorial or explain to me how to completely remove windows 7? i want to fully commit to ubuntu
[17:09] <Ubuwhat> #sane
[17:09] <sammy> Habs: also check http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9822151&postcount=6 which has instructions on how to do what it looks like you want to do - creating a larger image and copying everything over
[17:09] <linziyan> yes   fcitx   ,  you  know about it?
[17:09] <FusionX> My display is crashing alot of times randomly in Xubuntu (installed with wubi) details at --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577543 HELP ME PLEASE!
[17:10] <pagore> hi all! :)
[17:10] <Ubuwhat> pagore, hi you!
[17:10] <Screw> Is there anyone who has HP pavilion dv6 2010 and worked its mic?
[17:10] <collabra> linziyan: no,... i was seeing if the bot knew anything about it
[17:10] <pagore> could someone tell me if it is illegal to download a website via wget? :)
[17:10] <xander_> IRNBR00 easy put in ubuntu disk follow instructions choose guided install using full whole disk option
[17:10] <linziyan> collabra:  ok  fine....
[17:10] <NOMADICUS> Hello.  I am using Ubuntu 10.04 and I am wondering how to boot in verbose mode.  What settings do I have to change to make that happen?
[17:11] <ksbalaji> does a clean install in a partition leave the /home folder intact please?
[17:11] <arosen1> How do I get sun-java6-jdk   from apt ?
[17:11] <linziyan> collabra:  it's  a  chinese  input  method....
[17:11] <IRNBR00> i dont have a disk drive i have the MSI X410 netbook :P is there anyway to do it via USB ETC.?
[17:11] <Ubuwhat> Did anyone here had encounter difficulty installing scanners that supposed to be supported by SANE?
[17:11] <sammy> for anyone following along, Dr_Willis was right. udev rules will help me mount my vfat usb drive with proper permissions to be available for all users.
[17:11] <sammy> IRNBR00: do you mean can you install ubuntu with a usb drive?
[17:12] <collabra> linziyan: ok. I have to admit i dont know
[17:12] <actionParsnip> !java | arosen1
[17:12] <sammy> !usbinstall
[17:12] <sammy> hmm
[17:12] <xander_> yes you can install from USB
[17:12] <sammy> !usb | IRNBR00
[17:12] <IRNBR00> sammy: i dont have a cd drive and im wanting to switch completely to ubuntu and remove windows 7
[17:12] <FusionX> guys please help me with the problem i mentioned above ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ i've been trying since yesterday and got no help yet.
[17:13] <collabra> linziyan: have you tried one of the asian ubuntu channels,...?
[17:13] <preecher> i see the ubunto 10.10 beta is avail--can i install that as a upgrade without having to do the whole iso burn and reinstall thing
[17:13] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: i tried to use "vi" to put the text into that file and i saved using ":wq!" but it created a file called 'sources.list.save' ???
[17:13] <sammy> IRNBR00: it's as easy as putting the cd image on the usb key and booting from it.
[17:13] <linziyan> collabra:  it  will  be the same  ,i think
[17:13] <sammy> !upgrade preecher
[17:13] <drecute> sammy
[17:13] <drecute> hello
[17:13] <grkblood> how do i burn avchds with ubuntu karmic without buying nero? is there a way to give udf 2.5 support to k3b?
[17:14] <linziyan> collabra:  so  i    enter here  directly....
[17:14] <preecher> sammy   thanks---
[17:14] <drecute> i'm also trying to install via usb
[17:14] <collabra> linziyan: they would know alot more about chinese input methods than we.
[17:14] <xbonesx> IRNBR00: i believe there are tutorials out their to boot the live cd from a usb drive...
[17:14] <IRNBR00> sammy slight problem is i have just got ubuntu working with the  X410 and was wondering if i can keep my settings
[17:14] <xbonesx> IRNBR00: i dont think anything you do in the live cd will save... :(
[17:15] <Ubuwhat> can't make my Epson GT-2500 work with SANE.
[17:15] <actionParsnip> xbonesx: use: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list   add the text, press CTRL+X, Press Y, Press ENTER   soooo much easier
[17:15] <ralyon> My system is locking up on boot as of 3 days ago, last messages are regaurding CIFS not connecting and modem-manager although there is no modem on my machine. I am booted into a pxe image and have my local drive mounted and I have looked through the dmesg, messages, syslog and Xorg.0.log, but I'm not finding anything that seems to be helping. Can someone help me find the errors I need to search for to get this fixed?
[17:15] <IRNBR00> right ill give it a go the now
[17:15] <IRNBR00> see what happens
[17:15] <actionParsnip> Ubuwhat: did the iscan packages not make it fly?
[17:15] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: should there be a file called 'sources.list.save' in that DIR?
[17:15] <xander_> fusionx im no xorg expert and not much experince with wubi but when i was trying to get current ati driver to work a couple of time i just removed xorg.conf and let it reconfigure its self (but thats not a fix just a guess)
[17:16] <linziyan> collabra:   to  tell  the  truth, i  just   a  try  that  if  one  of  chinese experts  is  here....
[17:16] <preecher> it tells me upgrade not found
[17:16] <FusionX> xander_ ok i will try, but can u explain me how to do it? pm?
[17:16] <Ubuwhat> actionParsnip, nay.
[17:16] <FusionX> step by step
[17:16] <collabra> ahh,... =)
[17:16] <actionParsnip> xbonesx: I have one but sources.list is the one used
[17:16] <grkblood> how do i burn avchds with ubuntu karmic without buying nero? is there a way to give udf 2.5 support to k3b?
[17:17] <Ubuwhat> actionParsnip, although I installed virtual box with the supplied Driver and it worked
[17:17] <fedora_newb> why is it that webpages are displayed different in linux firefox than windows firefox? Shouldn't they be the same?
[17:17] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: is the content of the sources.list.save file the same as the sources.list???
[17:17] <EvilPhoenix> fedora_newb:  no they shouldnt.  its the same as asking why something shows up different in internet explorer than it does in firefox
[17:18] <arosen1> actionParsnip: how do I enable the universe repo? It says that in 9.04+ they are enabled by default though I still don't see that java package ?
[17:18] <Ubuwhat> actionParsnip, now i know that the scanner is functioning. yet can't make it work the way I want it.
[17:18] <melrockz> How to install IOS image (file.bin) via TFTP from Ubuntu to a Cisco 2600 router?
[17:18] <EvilPhoenix> fedora_newb:  some pages are configured for certain operating systems...
[17:18] <collabra> xbonesx: that's there because you edited the sources.list, i think. it saved the original as sources.list.save
[17:18] <fedora_newb> EvilPhoenix, are they not the same build?
[17:18] <xander_> i would goto etc/X11/  find xorg.conf delete it but like i said thats not a fix just a guess it allowed me to get back to X so icould try agian
[17:18] <EvilPhoenix> fedora_newb:  and part of the version response for HTTP things is your OS.
[17:18] <EvilPhoenix> fedora_newb:  read up
[17:18] <xbonesx> collabra: so just delete it?
[17:18] <fedora_newb> Right on...
[17:18] <xander_> brb
[17:18] <actionParsnip> arosen1: its in the partner repo http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-install-sun-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[17:18] <greencup> hello
[17:18] <greencup> anyone here can help me on a security issue?
[17:18] <collabra> xbonesx: yeah if you want. it won't be used by the system
[17:19] <xbonesx> collabra: ok
[17:19] <xbonesx> collabra: TY
[17:19] <collabra> xbonesx: np
[17:19] <ralyon> My system is locking up on boot as of 3 days ago, last messages are regaurding CIFS not connecting and modem-manager although there is no modem on my machine. I am booted into a pxe image and have my local drive mounted and I have looked through the dmesg, messages, syslog and Xorg.0.log, but I'm not finding anything that seems to be helping. Can someone help me find the errors I need to search for to get this fixed?
[17:19] <arosen1> actionParsnip: that webpage is down for me :(
[17:19] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: TY to you too
[17:19] <bt4> collabara ok
[17:20] <arosen1> actionParsnip: nvm i think i can get it fromt he cache
[17:20] <actionParsnip> arosen1: http://beeznest.wordpress.com/2010/04/23/howto-install-suns-java-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/
[17:20] <xander_> back
[17:20] <arosen1> thanks!
[17:20] <actionParsnip> xbonesx: see how much better support you get in ubuntu then backtrack
[17:20] <melrockz> how to launch tftpd? tftpd doesn't seem to work...
[17:20] <sed> scan
[17:20] <xander_> oooo ooo security issue what is it
[17:20] <xbonesx> anyone in hear a fan of rap music even a little bit
[17:20] <actionParsnip> !ot | xbonesx
[17:20] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: for sure did you see me get kicked lol
[17:20] <Tweaky> !ot
[17:20] <collabra> collabra's ok bt4.... thanks for asking.
[17:21] <linziyan> 不过这里面还是有人看的懂汉语的.....挺好.....
[17:21] <Dulak> !cn | linziyan
[17:21] <xander_> greencup whats the issue ?
[17:21] <CitricAcid> Greetings everyone. I have some questions for you all that you may find nooby... lol. I'm brand new to Ubuntu, and I have installed it INSIDE windows using Wubi. I want to make a dual boot system with windows, but whenever I begin to install ubuntu I'm not greeted with the simple slider that I see in all those tutorial videos. I have to do it manually, or erase the disk.
[17:22] <melrockz> How to install IOS image (file.bin) via TFTP from Ubuntu to a Cisco 2600 router? Urgent...
[17:22] <actionParsnip> melrockz: tftp is the same in any OS as it is a defacto standard
[17:22] <greencup> xander: i have to (assignment!) break into a server
[17:22] <greencup> im trying brute force attacks right now and i know ports 22 and 21 are open and unsecured, i have a user in the server but no password (thats the challenge!)
[17:22] <greencup> i discovered how to get in with a limited account but i cant do anything with it
[17:22] <greencup> i read about configuring ssh while youre inside to not-ask for password, but i think thats only valid in the current account
[17:22] <FloodBot2> greencup: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:23] <frex> Hello, I installed libapache-asp-perl, I could not find any example configuration file under /etc/apache2/conf.d
[17:23] <greencup> *sorry for the flood
[17:23] <frex> where is it exactly?
[17:23] <shcherbak> linziyan, hi hao
[17:23] <linziyan> shcherbak:  你好
[17:23] <ralyon> My system is locking up on boot as of 3 days ago, last messages are regaurding CIFS not connecting and modem-manager although there is no modem on my machine. I am booted into a pxe image and have my local drive mounted and I have looked through the dmesg, messages, syslog and Xorg.0.log, but I'm not finding anything that seems to be helping. Can someone help me find the errors I need to search for to get this fixed?
[17:24] <shcherbak> linziyan, do you think it is possible to learn chinese on irc?
[17:24] <weez^> is there any other way to get bitchx? i can't find it in my repos :(
[17:24] <collabra> lol
[17:24] <shcherbak> whois lnziyan
[17:24] <linziyan> shcherbak:you  mean?
[17:25] <linziyan> whois shcherbak
[17:25] <collabra> shcherbak: dont know,... he's trying to get help with chinese input methods
[17:25] <xander_> greencup dont take this the wrong way but 1: this assignment break into a server doesnt sound legit 2: are you trying to learn pentesting ?
[17:25] <u456503> hi all, there is a channel for kernel build ?
[17:26] <CitricAcid> Whenever I attempt to resize my windows partition, it says "Partition may be corrupted use Chkdsk to fix corruption problems then try again" Whenever I use Chkdsk I see a black window for a split second, then it disappears.... Help.
[17:26] <xander_> i used to have a vunerable machine set in vmware to break into that worked good for me as a learning tool
[17:26] <collabra> u456503: have you tried listing the channels?
[17:27] <shcherbak> linziyan, wonder...
[17:27] <collabra> u456503: i believe there is,.. not sure what the name is, though.
[17:27] <anev> anyone have issues booting live ubuntu 10.10 beta ?
[17:27] <anev> i get failure to mount /dev/loop errors.
[17:28] <greencup> xander: hahahaha i know i doesnt sound legit, but i swear it is; we got a two week security course and thats my final assignment
[17:28] <Ubuwhat> actionParsnip, I tried to install one of them I scanner  *.deb file but i got an "Dependency is not satisfiable: libltdl3 (>= 1.5.2-2)" error
[17:28] <Herman_Snerd> I've got a question regarding networking...I've been experiencing long delays in retrieving web pages and I'm thinking it might either be OS related or drivers.  I'm running a dual-boot setup and the Win-Blows side doesn't seem to have the same problems.
[17:28] <Herman_Snerd>  Not sure where to look in the networking settings to get any answers.  I am running proprietary drivers on this HP laptop.
[17:28] <Herman_Snerd> However, I did go to speed-test .net and tried to run the download speed test and got this,"Test Status: Failed - Opening"
[17:28] <Herman_Snerd> I thought that might give a clue.  Can anyone help?
[17:28] <FloodBot2> Herman_Snerd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> weez^:  why do you even wanty BitchX. weechat and irssi are better clients
[17:29] <actionParsnip> Ubuwhat: then you will need to find a deb to satisfy that dep
[17:29] <greencup> xander: owner of the site (also teacher) told me to not try sql injection cause site's mysql is not working
[17:29] <drecute> can somebody help: unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[17:29] <David-SDX> fds
[17:29] <David-SDX> df
[17:29] <David-SDX> hey guys
[17:29] <drecute> while installing ubuntu from usb disk for the first time
[17:29] <David-SDX> anyone ever install itunes?
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> !itunes | David-SDX
[17:29] <xander_> if it were me i would would be using BT4, and have you ran it with metasploit best out there i used this morning to hack into my oldest daughters computer
[17:29] <David-SDX> okay
[17:30] <David-SDX> lol
[17:30] <David-SDX> ive been trying to add music to my ipod
[17:30] <xander_> just for record its on my network
[17:30] <greencup> you can use amarok
[17:30] <David-SDX> amarok?
[17:30] <greencup> hmmm
[17:30] <David-SDX> to sync music to my ipod?
[17:30] <Blue1> David-SDX: guadeque http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=174
[17:31] <greencup> xander: i have amarok in another computer right now, but i just downloaded it; i know it can do lots of things but im not familiarized with them
[17:31] <David-SDX> k thanks
[17:31] <David-SDX> brb guys ima try this out
[17:31] <collabra> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download  <-----drecute
[17:31] <xander_> try to use metasploit it has some nice sql attacks my virtual server has intenional sql issues and it finds them in a few minutes and spawns a sessio
[17:31] <Blue1> David-SDX: guayadeque will be in next release (10.10) of ubuntu
[17:31] <drecute> !.exe
[17:31] <Scottie1> Help please?
[17:31] <David-SDX> okay
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> !details | Scottie1
[17:32] <Maletor> How can I join two different LANS?
[17:32] <drecute> !exe
[17:32] <Scottie1> I've burned Ubuntu desktop to about seven different CDs, and none of them will install. I've downloaded from two different PCs, from three separate downloads. I'm trying to install on a Toshiba Satellite L355D-S7825
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  make a bootable flash drive from the iso files perhaps?
[17:33] <drecute> !usbstick
[17:33] <weez^> !bitchX
[17:33] <Scottie1> All of the trials work fine, but when I go to install, I always get an error (at different parts of the download) saying that my harddisk is bad...but it's hard to believe that they're all bad
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  do the cd's work on other machines?
[17:33] <greencup> xander: sql attacks are not an option, ssh and ftp are my best shot
[17:33] <actionParsnip> Scottie1: did you MD5 test the ISO files you downloaded?
[17:33] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: I tried, once with an external hd, and again with a regular flash, and the first time it straight up told me I couldn't boot from an hd, and when I tried to boot from my stick, it said I had nothing bootable inserted.
[17:33] <greencup> xander: my thought was, brute force! i kind of know the guy so i tried a generic dictionary and one i made, but its not working
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  how did you make the bootable flash drive?
[17:34] <sriramoman> any guys here with toshiba laptops with ubuntu difficulty?
[17:34] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: I don't have the opportunity to find out, because I can't erase the other machines...they aren't mine
[17:34] <JSG> I'm trying to find a Linux equal to OCR a PDF file like ABBY on Windows.
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> sriramoman:  my Toshiba X505 works 100% in ubuntu.
[17:34] <fedora_newb> lol...firefox in wine is faster than stock firefox...who would have guessed that one
[17:34] <Scottie1> actionParsnip: I have no idea what that means.
[17:35] <actionParsnip> !md5 | Scottie1
[17:35] <bibii> Hi ppl!
[17:35] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: I followed the instructions on the website, and even told it to make it a bootable startup whatever
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  you could install to your extranal flash drive/usb as a test also.. but do  check the md5's first
[17:35] <Scottie1> sriramoman: girl, but yes.
[17:35] <wieshka> how can i remove ssh session timeout (for inactivity)
[17:35] <actionParsnip> Scottie1: you have downloaded a very sensitive lump of data over a very unreliable network, didnt you think to check the data was good before using it?
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  also the PenDrivelinux web site has some alteantive tools for making a bootable flash drive.
[17:35] <Herman_Snerd> sriramoman,  I've had similar problems though the optical drive I was trying to use was bad.  But no other boot options worked on the Toshiba I was trying to resurrect.
[17:35] <Scottie1> actionParsnip: ...what?
[17:35] <actionParsnip> wieshka: there may be a setting in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  an addational test is to try virtualbox and see if it can install from the iso to a virutal machine.
[17:36] <Scottie1> actionParsnip: if I knew what that meant, I would. But, again, I don't.
[17:36] <wieshka> actionParsnip: witch one ? :D logingracetime is for login timeout
[17:36] <sriramoman> Scottie1: toshiba works 100% for u?
[17:36] <frex> Hello, I installed libapache-asp-perl, I could not find any example configuration file under /etc/apache2/conf.d
[17:36] <actionParsnip> Scottie1: the ISO you downloaded has traversed the internet and can get damaged in transit. MD5 lets you check the data is good BEFORE you use it so you know any errors you see are not caused by garbled data
[17:36] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: I'm very grateful.
[17:36] <wieshka> how can i specifie for session ?
[17:36] <frex> this is not for apache2?
[17:36] <Scottie1> sriramoman: absolutely not.
[17:36] <actionParsnip> Scottie1: read the factoid ubottu gave too, it explains how to check the data
[17:37] <sriramoman> Scottie1: if u have acpi problems in the toshiba, i am here to guide u:)
[17:37] <Scottie1> :actionParsnip: In the process. I'm grateful, I'm just not sure what you're talking about.
[17:37] <Herman_Snerd> sriramoman, I had to wipe the HDD and create a pair of partitions and make one of them a bootable from a working install of ubuntu.
[17:37] <Scottie1> sriramoman: acpi?
[17:37] <FusionX> How can i recreate and reconfigure xorg.conf in xubuntu 10.04?
[17:38] <Habs> Alright, so I read the links, and from my understanding I just have to make a new partition with GParted, then download wubi-move-to-patition, then run "sudo sh wubi-move-to-partition <current Ubuntu partition here> <Swap (?) goes here>"?
[17:38] <sriramoman> Scottie1: what, in ur ubuntu, does NOT work in the toshiba laptop
[17:38] <actionParsnip> Scottie1: data can be damaged in transit, especially data as sensitive as an OS install media, so you need to check it is ok before continuing
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> Habs:  you proberly want to make a swap partition also.
[17:38] <Scottie1> sriramoman: I cannot get the disks to actually install. They let me trial run, but not install.
[17:38] <Scottie1> actionParsnip: I'm reading the text, but I don't understand it. I've never liked coding.
[17:39] <mdsky> Hey guys
[17:39] <Habs> Dr_Willis: So what exactly is a swap partition?
[17:39] <sriramoman> Scottie1: what errs turn up?
[17:39] <actionParsnip> Scottie1: its not coding at all, if you use windows you right click the iso and click "send to md5sum" after install a program, how is that programming??
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> !swap
[17:39] <bibii> Hi!
[17:39] <sriramoman> bibii: hi!
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> Habs:  its what linux uses instead of a swap file. like windows uses.. see above
[17:39] <Scottie1> sriramoman: the messages are different, but it always results in "this is caused by a faulty harddisk"
[17:40] <NOMADICUS> I can't seem to find an explaniation on how to boot in verbose mode.  Will someone please explain it to me?
[17:40] <Scottie1> actionParsnip: that isn't what the text says
[17:40] <Scottie1> actionParsnip: and I'm in the Ubuntu trial right now, not Windows
[17:40] <collabra> Scottie1: have you tried installing on different machine,.... maybe it's your harddrive
[17:41] <sriramoman> Scottie1: i would recommend u to go for a manual partition setup. there, resize the existing partitions to desired size. Then, install it on a custom sized partition as per ur needs
[17:41] <bibii> What to do?
[17:41] <Scottie1> collabra: I don't have another machine that I can lose data from, so no
[17:41] <cannonfodder> OMG I CANT FIND THE TRASH...I CHECKED 2 GOOGLED LOCATIONS....UBUNTU10.04 NETBOOK REMIX
[17:41] <Habs> Dr_Willis, so how would I go about making this swap partition then? And I've read about http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html , can I use that instead?
[17:41] <Scottie1> sriramoman: partitions aren't my thing either. I want a full install.
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> !trash | cannonfodder
[17:41] <sriramoman> Scottie1: an important preliminary question:: Are u installing from the ext-hdd to the SAME hdd?
[17:41] <cannonfodder> why do they keep hiding the trash btw?
[17:41] <mdsky> You can create a file on a existing partition and use it as swap - so you don't have to deal with partitions.
[17:41] <sriramoman> cannonfodder: trash:/// does the trick
[17:41] <bibii> извините за мой англйский
[17:41] <Scottie1> sriramoman: ..what?
[17:42] <cannonfodder> thanks
[17:42] <collabra> !ru | bibii
[17:42] <bibii> sorry for my Flyer
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  you do a full/normal isntall via parittions...
[17:42] <drecute> !initramfs
[17:42] <drecute> ok guys
[17:42] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: I don't know what that means.
[17:42] <sriramoman> Scottie1: if u try to install from a source external hard disk to the same external hard disk as destination, its bound to create errors!
[17:42] <drecute> i have at the prompt initramfs
[17:42] <ubuntu> hi
[17:43] <Habs> Sorry, I'm a bit of a newb at this, but what does the "Swap" file/partition do, and why do we need one?
[17:43] <ubuntu> i have a kernel problem
[17:43] <drecute> from here i can enter commands
[17:43] <Scottie1> sriramoman: I really have no idea what you're talking about.
[17:43] <drecute> is it possible to install using the commands
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  you may want to read up on some pc/disk fundamentals then.   You normally reparittion your hard drive and isntall ubuntu to one of the partitions. Unless you are using the WUBI method to install INSIDE windwos.
[17:43] <ubuntu> how I'm join to ircubuntu esp
[17:43] <actionParsnip> Scottie1: if you reboot to the cd, when the stickman shows press spacebar and select "Check CD for defects"
[17:43] <JSG> I'm trying to find a Linux equal to OCR a PDF file like ABBY on Windows. I installed gocr but it don't do pdf files.
[17:43] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: but I want FULL Ubuntu...I don't want other partitions
[17:43] <mdsky> @Habs: ubottu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[17:43] <sriramoman> Scottie1: are u installing from an optical medium(CD/DVD), as source medium of ubuntu?
[17:44] <collabra> !es
[17:44] <actionParsnip> Habs: its like the pagefile in windows, although linux doesnt fill your ram with stuff on boot
[17:44] <Scottie1> actionParsnip: Will do. Thank you.
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  you are backwards.. a FULL install DOES use partitions..
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  is this machine to be Ubuntu Only? or windows on it also?
[17:44] <Scottie1> sriramoman: I've tried several different CDs, an ext hard drive, and a usb
[17:44] <sriramoman> Habs: u may use 220% size as ur RAM for swap
[17:44] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: Then I just purely don't understand.
[17:44] <Habs> Oh, I see. But I think I've confused myself with my own directions... >.<
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  yep. You dont understand..  but we are here to help
[17:45] <collabra> !es | ubuntu
[17:45] <sriramoman> Scottie1: does the live environment work or does it stop at boot stage!
[17:45] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: My machine wouldn't let me log on, so I Ubuntu'd over it, and erased my windows. Now it has nothing on it.
[17:45] <grkblood> how do i get udf 2.50 support in cdrecord?
[17:45] <Redhand> well, it worked Feisty Fawn for the win! or against the win' as the case may be
[17:45] <Scottie1> sriramoman: I don't know what 'live environment' is
[17:45] <bjaanes> Having some problems with Rythmbox iPhone. Synced and copied stuff over yesterday - worked just fine. Connecting and trying to copy over a song; Error while getting peer-to-peer dbus connection: The name :1.210 was not provided by any .service files. Tried to delete .gconf/apps/rythmbox - didnt help. Any ideas?
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  so basically you start the isntaller and tell it to use the 'whole' disk ?
[17:45] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: It asks what I want. I tell it to erase and use the whole disk.
[17:45] <sriramoman> Scottie1: does the live cd boot in?
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  and that automatically PARTIONS the hard disk for you.
[17:46] <Scottie1> sriramoman: The installation starts. Always. It gets to 20 something, 30 something...I've gotten up to 40 something percent. Then it "corrupts"
[17:46] <bibii> i nice your are!!!
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  since you dont want windows. that makes things simpiler.
[17:46] <Habs> So, going back to the beginning, Wubi doesn't use partitions, it uses a file, right? So can I just change the size of that file for more HD space? :S
[17:46] <collabra> Scottie1: is this a CD or a USB Drive?
[17:46] <sriramoman> Scottie1: another tip: install it onto some other external hard disk.
[17:46] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: Okay...sorry I made that so difficult. And no, I don't want Windows. I just want my Ubuntu to work. I've used like 7 disks already.
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  where is your .iso files you used at now? this PC? eternal hd? another pc?
[17:47] <Scottie1> collabra: I've tried both.
[17:47] <Scottie1> sriramoman: I don't know what that means.
[17:48] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: One on my mom's, one on my friends. None on this one because every time I use it, I have to use Ubuntu trial, so nothing saves.
[17:48] <collabra> Scottie1: I think it's time to buy a hard drive.
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  If you have an exteranal usb hard drive, or even a pen/flash drive. You can tell the installer to install to that exteranal device.
[17:48] <Scottie1> collabra: I'm not buying a new hard drive.
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  you may want to go to one or more of the other machines and download a MD5 sum tool to check the iso files.
[17:48] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: When I tried to tell the ISO to use the hard drive as a boot option, it wouldn't let me. It said that I would not be able to boot from it.
[17:49] <sriramoman> Scottie1: plug in an external hard disk before starting ubuntu from cd. then start ur ubuntu installation cd. then choose the external disk as the destination for installing the OS. Afterward, boot it from there. u just need a single partition on the external drive, no need of an entire huge drive itself
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  Hard drives are the weakest part of a PC these days. they can die and get errors at any time.
[17:49] <sriramoman> Dr_Willis: thats why we have raid:P
[17:49] <Scottie1> sriramoman: what you're telling me to do is what I've already done, I think
[17:49] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: Well buying one really isn't an option
[17:50] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: none of the stuff in this file are showing up in my repositories anymore, i copied the contents from my live cd '/etc/apt/sources.list
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  check the md5 of the iso files on the other machines. try the Pendrivelinux web site. their 'pendrive generator' tool can also verify the ISO i think.
[17:50] <sriramoman> Scottie1: i am asking u to choose the external drive as Destination and NOT source, for the ubuntu-installation
[17:50] <collabra> Scottie1: yup,... at ANY time,.... I had to replace a two week old hard drive once.
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  you can even isntall to a 8gb flash drive if yu have one. :) as a test.
[17:50] <Scottie1> collabra: that still doesn't help me. I'm not buying a new drive.
[17:50] <aknagi> Hi guys. I'm installing my OS, and I have two 320GB disks, but gparted shows them as 298.09 GiB
[17:50] <wolfbiker> hey guys, i'm getting a connection problem with emesene, it's called Errno 110
[17:50] <aknagi> anyone know why?
[17:50] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: I have one. I tried. My computer refused to boot from it.
[17:50] <wolfbiker> what should i do?
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> aknagi:  marketing terms. and 5% reserved by ext2/3/4
[17:50] <sriramoman> aknagi: thats coz of GB to GiB units conversion
[17:50] <collabra> Scottie1: then partition your drive only to 30 percent
[17:51] <aknagi> Dammit!
[17:51] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=YvhNcmcd
[17:51] <aknagi> Thanks Dr_Willis
[17:51] <Scottie1> collabra: I don't understand partitioning or why I need to do it.
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  its possible your hard drive has a bad spot near the middle.
[17:51] <bibii> who likes to foul out Boys?
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[17:51] <collabra> Scottie1: obviously you have some bad sectors,.. I might recomend spinrite
[17:51] <actionParsnip> xbonesx: looks line
[17:51] <MaMoUs> Pidgin keep Crashing, Ubuntu 10.04 please help me
[17:52] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: looks (fine)*?
[17:52] <fanti> hello! apt-get doesn't find sun's java6-jdk package after installation from scratch. do i need to add 'nonfree' packages to sources.list or something like that?
[17:52] <actionParsnip> xbonesx: yes, the sources file
[17:52] <bjaanes> Having a somewhat wierd issue. Ubuntu asks for root password when installing stuff from ubuntu software center instead of password for the user logged in (which btw has sudo rights). So installing from command line works just fine. But when Ubuntu need root privileges it asks for root password instead of the user sudo. Whats up with that?
[17:52] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: Could you just tell me straight up what to do? Because stuff like this is meaningless to me.
[17:52] <collabra> Scottie1: not much you can do about bad sectors on a harddrive
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  as a dirty work around. they are suggesting you use the 'custome' partioning feature of the installer and make a single parittion at the front of the hard drive of about 20gb or so,
[17:53] <Scottie1> collabra: Dude, okay, I appreciate the effort, but you aren't helping me.
[17:53] <Redhand> hmmm... any old ubuntu distro chatrooms on here./list isn't working for me
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  not really. you need to know the basic terms befor  anything we say makes sence..
[17:53] <rasec> hola
[17:53] <actionParsnip> Scottie1: you could research some and learn a little, it will help you GREATLY
[17:53] <aknagi> \
[17:53] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: But, like, I don't know what the sectors mean
[17:53] <rasec> ay  algen
[17:53] <sailerboy> hey, im using supybot, and one of the plugins needs flat as a database
[17:53] <sailerboy> but i cant find it in apt
[17:53] <sailerboy> http://pastebin.com/K7m5mdqC is the specific error
[17:53] <MaMoUs> pidgin Keep Crashing , Segmentation fault, Ubuntu 10.04 help me please
[17:53] <collabra> Scottie1: i apologize.... it's wasn't my intent...
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  in short you can try custome partioning layout, and make a 20 gb partiion at the start for '/' and  a 512mb for 'swap' then see if itnstalls.
[17:53] <rasec> de cchile
[17:53] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: I understand most of what you're saying. It is just meaningless to me because I don't know how to apply it.
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  but really You SHOULD be checking the cd's for errors also.
[17:54] <Scottie1> collabra: I appreciate it, I do, but you aren't explaining anything you say so it's just frustrating me
[17:54] <sriramoman> aknagi: i can give u the calculation how u get 298. its pure mathematics and not any sector reservation/crap
[17:54] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: I didn't know. I don't know how to do any of this. I was just trying to save my stupid computer.
[17:54] <fedora_newb> anyone know if you can get like a collapse for gedit?
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  i guess you learn then.
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  theres proberly videos on youtube of them doing Ubuntu installs also.
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  its not to hard to parittion the hard drive with the installer.
[17:54] <Redhand> knowing is half the battle, learning is the other half =)
[17:55] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: I'm pulling up the installer right now.
[17:55] <collabra> Scottie1: bad sectors would frustrate me also.... but there are workarounds,... like what Dr_Willis is suggesting
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  because the HD has some bad sectors.. that thing could die at any time..  i would be saving up some $$.
[17:55] <mdsky> What to use as virtual machine software? Should be stable and fast and have a gui. :) I found these three: VirtualBOX OSE? Qemulator? FAUmachine? Are there other/better ones?
[17:55] <bibii> ubuntu 10.04 - the best distro!
[17:56] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: Which option am I supposed to choose, regarding the install
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  custome layout
[17:56] <Scottie1> Okay, I'm there.
[17:56] <Redhand> I assume that wont work on a 400mhz celeron bibii rotflmao (192 megs of ram)
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  i dont have the isntaller memoruised.. so you will need to think about what you are doing.
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  you basically want to make 2 partitions  first one , ext4, mount point of
[17:56] <MaMoUs> Pidgin Keep Crashing, Segmentation fault
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  you basically want to make 2 partitions  first one , ext4, mount point of  '/'    perhaps 20gb in size.
[17:57] <collabra> Scottie1: how big is your harddrive currently?
[17:57] <FusionX> How can i recreate and reconfigure xorg.conf in xubuntu 10.04?
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  then make a second one. perhaps 1 gb in size. type is 'swap'
[17:57] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: There's already two there. sda1 and sda5
[17:57] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: 1 is an ext4 and 5 is a swap
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  so delete them.  thats what the auto partioning tool setup.
[17:57] <swiftarrow> FusionX: the xorg is auto configured in 10.04, afaik
[17:57] <Scottie1> collabra: 250g
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  you want basically the same thing, only smaller...
[17:57] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: ensure ur swap is 220% as big as ur RAM
[17:58] <swiftarrow> FusionX: it doesn't use a xorg.conf, it re-configures every boot
[17:58] <maedox> FusionX, not sure what you want, but you can just delete xorg.conf.
[17:58] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: Okay, now it just says 'free space'
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> sriramoman1:  220% ? where did that come from.
[17:58] <collabra> sriramoman1: i've neve used more than 120 percent myself
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  so make a new primary partition, type ext4. mount point /
[17:58]  * swiftarrow things Dr_Willis is awesome for doing this
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  make it.. 20gb.
[17:59] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: I click 'new partition table' and nothing happens
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  not a new table.. a new partitiion
[17:59] <maedox> sriramoman1, I have 6 GB RAM and no swap space. no way I'm making one 220 % of RAM :P
[17:59] <FusionX> swiftarrow : my display is crashing randomly and i want to know if there's a way to auto reconfigure the whole display configuration. details -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577543 - can u help me?
[17:59] <sriramoman1> Dr_Willis: 100% for RAM overflow as such, 100% in case of suspend-to-disk. and 2x10% for safety
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> sriramoman1:  rather useless for all of my machines...
[17:59] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: I only have the option to make a new table
[17:59] <collabra> sriramoman1: these machines these days have so much ram, I don't belive i've ever even used my swap
[17:59] <swiftarrow> FusionX: if you have an xorg.conf, delete it, and reboot.  That will re-configure it automatically
[17:59] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: Scratch that. I had the wrong thing highlighted.
I think it is, but not in full force!
[17:59] <FusionX> swiftarrow no i don't
[17:59] <actionParsnip> swiftarrow: renaming is less destructive
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  I said you have to think. :) heh
[18:00] <sriramoman1> Dr_Willis: one swap can be used by all ur machines
[18:00] <swiftarrow> FusionX: otherwise, look at your graphics drivers, some cards don't behave very nicely
[18:00] <amer> i need help regarding changing mouse pointers in ubuntu me 10.04
[18:00] <swiftarrow> FusionX, whats your graphics card?
[18:00]  * sriramoman1 runs 9 VM's on his laptop and thus requires 220% sized swap as his 6GB RAM
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  so a parimary parittion of about 20gb, ext4, mount point /
[18:00] <FusionX> swiftarrow i didn't had this problem on ubuntu 9.10, intel 82845G
[18:01] <swiftarrow> amer there's many ways to do it.  For starters, go to System > Preferences > Appearace
[18:01] <swiftarrow> and customize the theme
[18:01] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: ensure to check the format
[18:01] <collabra> talk about a learning curve,...
[18:01] <Redhand> hmmm... seriously? well.. I may have to try installing 10.4 then after I learn the basics of ubuntu.. so far 7.04 is treating me quite nicely
[18:01] <actionParsnip> amer: right click desktop -> change wallpaper, leftmost tab, click install then select the archive containing the pointer theme, it will be offered to be enabled too :)
[18:01] <aruljohn> hi any one tell me where keylogger software wil store after download
[18:01] <Redhand> first day granted
[18:01] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Format?
[18:01] <swiftarrow> FusionX: then I'd suspect the newer drivers for the intel chipset are the problem...
[18:02] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: Done.
[18:02] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: Wait, wait. Beg or end?
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  the thing should allready 'format' the ext4 if needed.. you have also made the swap parittion yet? how much ram do you have?
[18:02] <wolfbiker_> hey guys, I keep getting a connection problem with Emesene, it's called Errno 110, how should i fix this?
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  may as well use the beginning. :)
[18:02] <FusionX> swiftarrow it's the same driver from the last ubuntu 9.10
[18:02] <swiftarrow> I've had that problem with the 845 before, and it was solved by going back to an older driver... but that was in 9.-4
[18:02] <sailerboy> hey, im getting this error No suitable databases were found.  Suitable databases include flat.
[18:02] <amer> i am using ubuntu sabily os. in that there are special cursors, with arabic script, its not workingo n desktop, but working when a program window is open.
[18:02] <sailerboy> but i cant find flat in ap
[18:02] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: 3g ram, 250g hd
[18:02] <sailerboy> apt
[18:02] <swiftarrow> FusionX: are you sure?  kernel version is also the same?
[18:03] <Redhand> my next project is my little 233mhz laptop though I believe it has 64 megs of ram bwahaha
[18:03] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: All I've made is the first. Can you repeat the other, please?
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  so a 1gb swap is proberly plenty. You could make 3gb if you wanted.
[18:03] <FusionX> swiftarrow yes i'm sure
[18:03] <collabra> aggreed
[18:03] <collabra> agreed^
[18:03] <swiftarrow> FusionX: well... this n00b has run out of guesses :)
[18:03] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: when u edit details of ur "/" partition, ensure that u tick the "Format" check box
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  afer making the /. make a swap partition perhaps 2gb in size.  its not super critical.
[18:03] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: On the one I just made, or in the free space?
[18:03] <collabra> free space
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  its a different partiion.. so its in the free space of course..
[18:04] <bibii> bwahaha
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  You are making different 'partitions' :) logical eh?
[18:04] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: I assumed, but I wanted to be sure. Logical? Beg or end? Mount point?
[18:04] <razass> hi all, is there any tutorial or documentation on making a very bare bones ubuntu desktop install? Simply it just needs to run FireFox
[18:04] <collabra> logical
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  may as well make it primary,. and again.. the beginning
[18:04] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: Primary or logical
[18:04] <collabra> hmm
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  you can have 4 primary parittions total. You are going to perhaps use 3 for this setup.
[18:05] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: Alright, done.
[18:05] <swiftarrow> razass: If I were you I'd try a different distro... something like tiny Linux, if all you want is firefox
[18:05] <sriramoman1> razass: delete all unrequired packages ;) or try the alternate installer, and build up ur distro
[18:05] <swiftarrow> razass: echo sriramoman1
[18:05] <razass> yeah im not smart enough to build my own distro :)
[18:05] <ttmontoya> Does anyone knows how to install tryton
[18:05] <collabra> designate it swap space
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  Now . for the rest of the hard drive. You can make a 3rd partition. set it to ext4.  and the rest of the hard drive size, and set its mount point to be /home
[18:05] <Redhand> so wait, having just switched over from windows.. what exactly do I do with my windows disks? =)
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  this way you wil have 200+GB in space for your user to use.
[18:05] <razass> swiftarrow: i'll look into this 'tiny linux' thanks
[18:05] <switch10_> razass: http://knol.google.com/k/ubuntu-minimal-desktop-installation-guide#
[18:06] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: Okay, done.
[18:06] <razass> switch10_: thanks :)
[18:06] <swiftarrow> razass: install the server edition, and sudo apt-get install firefox :)
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  However if the HD is going bad.. hopefully the 'bad' sectors will be in that /home partition.
[18:06] <sonerik> Âñåì ïðèâåò, ó ìåíÿ òàêàÿ ïðîáëåìà - ïîñëå óñòàíîâêè ïðîïðèåòàðíûõ äðàéâåðîâ íà âèäåîêàðòó ATI HD4650, Counter-Strike (STEAM) íà÷àë çàâèñàòü íàìåðòâî, çàïóñêàë ÷åðåç Wine 1.3.3 . Äî óñòàíîâêè äðàéâåðîâ èãðà çàïóñêàëàñü, íî òîðìîçèëà. Ïîìîãèòå ïîæàëóéñòà.
[18:06] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: Alright...can I continue now?
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  now when you continue the installer it 'should' all install to the good part of the hard drive.
[18:06] <swiftarrow> sonerik !english
[18:06] <collabra> Dr_Willis: does he want to even do that,... won't files be written to a potentially bad area.
[18:07] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: Alright. I'll let it run and see how it goes.
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  at least now you now know how to do a custome partitiion
[18:07] <collabra> Dr_Willis: for a home partition
[18:07] <razass> swiftarrow: lol, would that still have a gui?
[18:07] <sriramoman1> Dr_Willis: as long as she is using a single Hard drive, why do u recommend her to choose /home to be in seperate partition? do u think it will give her less flexibility!
[18:07] <bihari> any one know how to install metaspoilt
[18:07] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: I completely appreciate all of this. There is no one computer literate in this town, especially with Linux.
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> collabra:  he can edit out entry in fstab and it wont use it.. but he will ahve 20gb space total.. so its a risk.
[18:07] <swiftarrow> razass: the gui should come down as a dependency, I suppose :)
[18:07] <sonerik> Hello everyone, I have this problem - after installing the proprietary drivers for video card ATI HD4650, Counter-Strike (STEAM) began to hang tightly, run through Wine 1.3.3. Before installing the drivers the game starts, but slowed down. Help please.
[18:07] <razass> swiftarrow: lol
[18:07] <tank> bihari: i'm not sure that's covered here, check #backtrack-linux
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  theres bound to be some videos out of doing all this.. but ive never looked :)
[18:08] <ttmontoya> Has anyone ever install Tryton before?
[18:08] <wolfbiker_> Guys please take a look at my case, it's important.
[18:08] <root_> :perl bot-phl.txt irc.plasa.com 6667 c0d0th c0d0th PHL gua-c0d0th /usr/bin/httpd
[18:08] <sriramoman1> razass: use the alt-installer, and install only firefox in addition. let it auto-select dependencies
[18:08] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: Honestly, I prefer one on one where I can get MY questions answered. Which is why, as of now, you're a god to me.
[18:08] <aruljohn> i have this problem in ubuntu 9.10 that my system is slow now adays
[18:08] <razass> sriramoman1: thanks ill look into all these options, thats everyone for the help
[18:08] <tank> wolfbiker_ whats up?
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> Scottie1:  and its past my bed time.. if this all fails.. well its possible the HD is on its last legs.. or the cd is badly burnt. but at least you can play with the live cd. and do things...
[18:08] <sriramoman1> razass: welcome!
[18:09] <zorklat> what's the preferred console trace utility?
[18:09] <collabra> i feel his pain
[18:09] <Scottie1> Dr_Willis: I can. I really appreciate it. Sleep well.
[18:09] <swiftarrow> razass: nm!
[18:09] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: that is why i recommended u to try installing the ubuntu onto some other external drive
[18:09] <sonerik> I have this problem - after installing the proprietary drivers for video card ATI HD4650, Counter-Strike (STEAM) began to hang tightly, run through Wine 1.3.3. Before installing the drivers the game starts, but slowed down. Help please.
[18:09] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: if in case it installs there, u are assured that its the problem with ur HDD physically
[18:10] <collabra> sriramoman1: i don't think he has one
[18:10] <sriramoman1> collabra: he claims to have tried installing from an external hdd as source! which indicates he has one!
[18:10] <swiftarrow> sonerik, if anyone knows anything, they will respond... please wait a few minutes before re-posting
[18:10] <sonerik> ok
[18:10] <collabra> sriramoman1: i've got 5 just sittin in my closet
[18:11] <sriramoman1> collabra: ive got 5 terabytes connected here!:P
[18:11] <collabra> nice!
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> 2tb usb = $109 last week on sale
[18:11] <collabra> sriramoman1: how much of it have you used?
[18:11] <wolfbiker_> tank, I keeping getting this connection problem with every msn messenger client program, it's called Errno 110, any idea whats causing it and how i should fix it?
[18:12] <sriramoman1> collabra: 3.7 Tib
[18:12] <collabra> wow
[18:12] <sriramoman1> RAID implementations, mainly!
[18:12] <sriramoman1> and several virtual OS'
[18:12] <collabra> yeah i've got a quad raid over here
[18:12] <sriramoman1> hdd's are dead cheap and 1 TiB's are a must-have for anyone interested to test several OS
[18:12] <zorklat> what's the preferred console trace utility?
[18:13] <collabra> just one tere though
[18:13] <sonerik> After installing the proprietary drivers for video card ATI HD4650, Counter-Strike (STEAM) began to hang tightly, run through Wine 1.3.3. Before installing the drivers the game starts, but slowed down. Help please.
[18:13] <ikonia> sonerik: not all games will perform well in wine, and different video drivers will effect performance
[18:14] <Kage> audio is not working on flash and some other things
[18:14] <Kage> any help?
[18:14] <sonerik> but on Wine site is posted that Counter-Strike will be working perfectly
[18:15] <ikonia> sonerik: yes, a.) that depends on the version of wine b.) video card drivers will effect it
[18:15] <Kage> sonerik: how long ago?  wine is prone to regression
[18:15] <David-SDX> i install quayadue
[18:15] <David-SDX> but why doesnt it show my ipod?
[18:15] <Kage> !audio > Kage
[18:15] <sonerik> what driver i must install to run CS normaly?
[18:15] <tank> wolfbiker_ im not familiar with it, but have you tried using pidgin?
[18:15] <ikonia> sonerik: talk to the wineo guys
[18:16] <ikonia> sonerik: "wine" guys, sorry
[18:16] <JiMiGj> hello all:  how can i find out my ip and all the info like i do in windows  ipconfig /all on ubuntu please, i googled and i tried ifconfig but it says bash not found
[18:16] <David-SDX> guys why isnt my ipod showing
[18:16] <Barridus> can you change/assign a default icon for something?  (not switch to another whole set)  my mp3 player just shows up as a generic paper document page icon no matter the theme
[18:16] <collabra> Scottie1: I'm betting on success...
[18:16] <sonerik> ok, but what driver is better ? Free or Proprietary?
[18:16] <ikonia> sonerik: speak to the wine guys
[18:17] <actionParsnip> JiMiGj: ifconfig
[18:17] <wolfbiker_> tank, yes i have, same deal
[18:17] <actionParsnip> JiMiGj: for wan ip use http://ipchicken.com
[18:17] <xbonesx> could someone who hasn't added ny extra repositories tell me how many packages are listed in theirs?
[18:17] <actionParsnip> JiMiGj: you may also use: sudo lshw -C network   which may show IP
[18:17] <xbonesx> any*
[18:17] <tank> wolfbiker_ are you behind a firewall?
[18:18] <xbonesx> so i know if i have all the defaulted ones???
[18:18] <neekers> i just went throug the apt-get man pages but couldn't find what i was looking for, is it possible to see all the software that was installed with apt-get?
[18:18] <tank> neekers: synaptic packet manager!
[18:18] <JiMiGj> everything that you have given me says command not found
[18:18] <wolfbiker_> tank, nope. actually i never got this error message before
[18:18] <ikonia> neekers: dpkg -l  will list all package managed software
[18:18] <JiMiGj> i tried ifconfig, i tried sudo lshw -C
[18:18] <JiMiGj> nothing
[18:19] <tank> wolfbiker_: hmm... my thinking was that it was an improper port or something, but sorry dude, im stumped
[18:19] <neekers> thanks, this is a server, i am ssh-ing into it
[18:19] <ikonia> neekers: how does that have any relevence ?
[18:20] <neekers> ikonia: that was for tank who suggested synaptic, from what i saw that required a ui...
[18:20] <sriramoman1> collabra: scottie1 left room long ago
[18:20] <wolfbiker_> tank, alright man, thanks anyway
[18:20] <sriramoman1> lets hope for his suces
[18:20] <ikonia> neekers: I see
[18:20] <collabra> sriramoman1: lol,... didn't realize he left.
[18:21] <tank> neekers: aptitude, i think
[18:21] <collabra> what a presence of absolute terror he had, though.
[18:22] <collabra> frantic....
[18:22] <collabra> desperate...
[18:22] <tank> neekers: yes, aptitude, its a cli option for what you need
[18:22] <sriramoman1> collabra: it happens! i experienced a worst terror when i had acpi errors in my sister's laptop!
[18:22] <neekers> ikonia: i'm trying to reduce the amount of space that is being used. i'm currently using 7G but really only have apache, mysql running and a few other things
[18:22] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: i edited that file just fine but the two repositories that used to exist in this pic http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/55/61407954.png are no longer their???
[18:22] <ikonia> neekers: search for large files and directories, see where the space is wasted
[18:23] <collabra> sriramoman1: yeah,... i've had my fill of desperate hardware and software issues.
[18:23] <xbonesx> actionParsnip: but i have a package list of 30111 packages listed
[18:23] <neekers> are there any commands to repack everything to take up less space?
[18:24] <ikonia> repack ?
[18:24] <ikonia> repack what
[18:24] <sriramoman1> she bought i3 system based on my strong recommendations and ran into acpi errors! it gave the rip_child error, dint boot! very terrific! moreover with ubuntu as the sole OS, safe mode is disabled and grub boots direct on installation without giving time to edit the line! we had to install xp for grub-sake!
[18:24] <collabra> sriramoman1: mainly software,.. lol.
[18:24] <neekers> i dunno, what ever that silly utility is on windows reorders all the files etc... :)
[18:24] <ikonia> neekers: windows recorders ? what are you talking about
[18:24] <actionParsnip> neekers: remove ubuntu-docs to free up 250Mb
[18:25] <nuuuub> anyone knows why i get blank fields in System->Administration -> Restricted drivers manager when trying to install nvidia 6100 proprietary drivers? how can i solve this?
[18:25] <bobstro> neekers:  i think you mean compression
[18:25] <sriramoman1> collabra: finally i had to recompile the kernel adding some toshiba acpi patches and that was my first success on kernel compilation in an effort of 8 years! that too for this sake, when i made attempt,, it compiled in very first attempt and now it is a success story in the hat! but we ate tension for 2 weeks, thinking we may need to exchange laptop for heavy loss!!!
[18:26] <bobstro> neekers:  windows can do folder compression
[18:26] <sriramoman1> collabra: any software which u miss now, where i may be able to assist u?
[18:27] <bobstro> neekers:  dpkg -l will show you what's installed
[18:27] <collabra> sriramoman1: no,... but talking about compiling kernels,... i've been using some flavor of linux for five years now and have yet to compile a kernel.
[18:28] <neekers> no, i meant defrag, not compression... :)
[18:28] <vatts> APCI getting timing mode failed
[18:28] <collabra> sriramoman1: never felt or had the need to do it.
[18:28] <andi> #xubuntu
[18:28] <bobstro> neekers:  that won't affect space much though
[18:28] <vatts> would need to run 8.10 fast on amd 64bit... data saving :\
[18:28] <vatts> urgently
[18:28] <bobstro> neekers:  there's less need to defrag with ext filesystems
[18:28] <neekers> ahh, i see
[18:28] <vatts> without "try this try that" - i need sata support and amd64 as i see
[18:28] <nuuuub> anyone can help in installing 6100 restricted drivers in 10.4?
[18:29] <bobstro> collabra:  not so much need to build custom kernels these days. but i can remember when.... :)
[18:29] <vatts> now? :\
[18:29] <sriramoman1> collabra: toshiba is an exception! the recent laptops have some redundant bios or something that drives it to acpi errors. anyway, the past efforts were hobbyist and academic inclined. for toshiba alone it was a necessity and it worked in first attmpt:D
[18:29] <collabra> sriramoman1: right on.
[18:30] <JiMiGj> how to find what distro is running on this ubutnu
[18:30] <JiMiGj> i forgot, it was something like cat/etc
[18:30] <bobstro> JiMiGj:  at terminal, try lsb_release -d
[18:31]  * sriramoman1 plans to upload the self-compiled toshiba kernel patch *.deb's soon, which on installation should make most toshiba laptops 100% functional B-)
[18:31] <connie> |
[18:31] <Qwert_> IdleOne: A moment please..
[18:31] <JiMiGj> thanks
[18:31] <bobstro> JiMiGj:  cat /etc/lsb-release will show same
[18:31] <einnoc> |"
[18:31] <einnoc> cracker x
[18:31] <einnoc> xpwin
[18:31] <einnoc> (000004) 257 "/_kurdt" directory created.
[18:31] <einnoc> |*
[18:31] <bobstro> vatts:  were you asking about 8.10 on amd64 with sata?
[18:31] <einnoc> |
[18:31] <JiMiGj> no luck whatsoever with this ubuntu
[18:32] <JiMiGj> nothing comes up
[18:32] <JiMiGj> :s
[18:32] <collabra> sriramoman1: i've read a bit on how to compile a kernel,... and a few of the benefits of doing so, but i've never just sat down and done it.... I'm more of a user than a 'hacker'
[18:32] <bobstro> JiMiGj:  sounds like something is broken. are you getting a prompt when you open a terminal?
[18:32] <cxpcq> note
[18:32] <cxpcq> uki.game
[18:32] <sriramoman1> JiMiGj: tell me ur difficulty :)
[18:32] <cxpcq> access account
[18:32]  * cxpcq (000004) 257 "/_kurdt" directory created.
[18:32]  * cxpcq admin
[18:32] <ikonia> cxpcq: can we help you with ubuntu ?
[18:32] <vatts> guys
[18:32] <vatts> can any1 help me?
[18:32] <Calinou> thanks for saying admin, i got highlighted -.-
[18:32] <Calinou> he parted, ikonia
[18:32] <vatts> please??? -.-"
[18:32] <JiMiGj> i don't know no commands are working
[18:32] <bobstro> vatts:  did you see my previous question?
[18:33] <JiMiGj> it' says trie cat --help, when i do this commands are there
[18:33] <collabra> sriramoman1: i know how to fix what gets broke,... and have been satisfied with that.
[18:33] <ikonia> vatts: you need to ask a question
[18:33] <ziggurat> hello
[18:33] <vatts> bobstro, not at all i was trying to move monitor around
[18:33] <sriramoman1> collabra: I've always felt daunted to compile kernels :P
[18:33] <vatts> you want it long way eh
[18:33] <ikonia> vatts: no, I just want to know how you need help
[18:33] <bobstro> vatts:  oh... ok. not sure what your question was then. sorry
[18:33] <Mateo_> Hi everyone !
[18:33] <Solid-Snake> Mateo_, yo
[18:33] <bobstro> JiMiGj:  when you open a terminal, do you get a prompt?
[18:34] <JiMiGj> i am vnc-in my server on terminal
[18:34] <vatts> I want to get some tons of gigs files from my 160GB sata drive at AMD64bit comp via ubuntu 8.10 to external USB drive (mostly something like USB disk with 360GB NTFS partition), therefore XP on main disk started to freak out so i decided for ubuntu. when i try live one it drops me out to busybox. which boot modes should i choose????
[18:34] <bobstro> JiMiGj:  do you get a shel prmopt at all?
[18:34] <vatts> there you go, question asked.
[18:34] <Aivaras> Hello, how to remove default fn-up/fn+down keys bidding for screen bright?
[18:34] <Solid-Snake> is it possible to set ubuntu server edition up as a web server?
[18:34] <sriramoman1> JiMiGj: check if ur PATH variable is set right!
[18:34] <Aivaras> Solid-Snake,  Sure :)
[18:35] <vatts> bobstro, ah i notice it now
[18:35] <ikonia> vatts: is ubuntu installed on your computer ?
[18:35] <Solid-Snake> Aivaras, cool!
[18:35] <vatts> ikonia, unfortunatley, NO
[18:35] <vatts> it was XP, now trying ubuntu live to save what i can
[18:35] <ikonia> vatts: where is it installed ?
[18:35] <Aivaras> Solid-Snake,  You need apache2 or lighttpd, php5 and mysql :)
[18:35] <vatts> ikonia, XP?
[18:35] <klh>  anybody know howto add symlink or dir to the 'favorites' in ubuntu netbook edition?
[18:35] <xTCx> Solid-Snake: that's the point of it
[18:35] <vatts> same drive as files, but partitioned
[18:35] <ikonia> vatts: ok - so where does ubuntu come into the problem ?
[18:35] <bobstro> vatts:  not sure i'm following everything you're trying to say, but mounting an ntfs partition to recover files should be no problem. are you saying ubuntu won't boot, won't boot live cd, or won't boot with usb drive attached?
[18:35] <vatts> eeeeeeeeer
[18:35] <vatts> bobstro, it *wont* boot
[18:36] <bobstro> vatts:  live cd?
[18:36] <vatts> give me sec so i re-write what t says
[18:36] <vatts> bobstro, yeah
[18:36] <vatts> 8.10
[18:36] <Mateo_> i can't get xdebug to work ... i don't understand why, i've installed php5-xdebug, configure the php.ini ...
[18:36] <ikonia> what ?
[18:36] <Aivaras> Solid-Snake,  On the internet you can find LOT-OF guides, how to do it just google it "Ubuntu web server setup"
[18:36] <Aivaras> Hello, how to remove default fn-up/fn+down keys bidding for screen bright?
[18:36] <sriramoman1> Solid-Snake: just install apache on it!
[18:36] <bobstro> vatts:  part 1 - WHEN you get ubuntu working, mounting an ntfs volume to recover your files is not a problem.
[18:36] <vatts> ikonia, i had XP... get it? it had its own partition... somebody messed with it... files are on others, i try to save 'em... and ubuntu LIVE doesn't boot (i guess cuz its SATA)
[18:37] <vatts> bobstro, I KNOW but problem exists between  it
[18:37] <bobstro> vatts:  part 2 - HOW to get ubuntu cd working sounds like your first problem.
[18:37] <Solid-Snake> Aivaras, isn't there some keyboard shortcuts setting in the System menu?
[18:37] <ikonia> vatts: ubuntu live CD won't boot ? whats the problem with it
[18:37] <vatts> BOOTING*
[18:37] <sriramoman1> Aivaras: gnome/ubuntu?
[18:37] <sriramoman1> Aivaras: sorry. gnome/kde?
[18:37] <Aivaras> sriramoman1,  Gnome and ubuntu. :)
[18:37] <vatts> why the hell does now ubuntu live pops me up to Busybox
[18:37] <vatts> >_<
[18:37] <vatts> well
[18:37] <ikonia> vatts: because it's not booting from the CD
[18:37] <Solid-Snake> Aivaras,  hmm, do you have yast?
[18:38] <vatts> aha
[18:38] <Qwert_> Is creating LiveUSB like having iso image sync with usb?
[18:38] <Solid-Snake> Aivaras, i heard that it does EVERYTHING
[18:38] <ikonia> Qwert_: no
[18:38] <Qwert_> ikonia: Then?
[18:38] <ikonia> Qwert_: it's like having a livecd, but on a USB disk
[18:39] <vatts> ikonia, bobstro -> error i get is: [   98.930496] sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through (new line) [      98.932113] SD 6:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
[18:39] <vatts> and there it stops
[18:39] <vatts> dont really know if its error tho :P
[18:39] <sriramoman1> Aivaras: http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBoQFjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2F7.04%2Fuser-guide%2FC%2Fkeyboard-skills.html&rct=j&q=keyboard%20shortcuts%20ubuntu&ei=o0qWTNysPI30vQPV2uSLBA&usg=AFQjCNELQXlHaH8WwNn1XSDDXgNqGSPyGw&sig2=YSEnMD0o_VSF97V_g2vFwA&cad=rja
[18:39] <vatts> sounds more like infos
[18:39] <FloodBot2> vatts: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:39] <vatts> but it stops booting :\
[18:39] <Qwert_> ikonia: Could you suggest me tools to create LiveUSB for any distro?
[18:39] <ikonia> vatts: it doesn't sound like it's booting from CD
[18:39] <Aivaras> sriramoman1,  Thanks :)
[18:39] <ikonia> Qwert_: no
[18:39] <vatts> ikonia, well it quite does
[18:39] <ikonia> vatts: that doesn't look like an error
[18:40] <ikonia> vatts: I would try a different CD as a test
[18:40] <Qwert_> ikonia: As to why? I'm only aware of sartupdisk creator
[18:40] <bobstro> vatts:  is there a safe mode boot option?
[18:40] <bobstro> vatts:  is it possibly hanging when it starts graphics mode?
[18:40] <ikonia> bobstro: good call
[18:41] <sriramoman1> vatts: probably try vga=791 option while booting
[18:41] <sriramoman1> in grub
[18:41] <ikonia> sriramoman1: why ?
[18:41] <ikonia> sriramoman1: thats just a framebuffer
[18:41] <bobstro> vatts:  if this machine (laptop?) is having hard time booting from cd and you're in a hurry, could you take the drive to a 2nd machine that might boot easier?
[18:41] <ikonia> sriramoman1: what's that going to do ?
[18:41] <Qwert_> Could anyone suggest tools to create LiveUSB for any distro?
[18:41] <Mateo_> sorry but any idea about my xdebug problem ?
[18:41] <sriramoman1> ikonia: safe mode graphics
[18:42] <ikonia> sriramoman1: no it's not
[18:42] <ikonia> sriramoman1: that's not safe mode graphics, that's setting a frame buffer resolution
[18:42] <bobstro> Qwert_:  look up MultiBootISOs -- from pendrivelinux i think
[18:42] <bobstro> Qwert_:  there's also Universal-USB-Installer which will do a single distro on a pendrive
[18:42] <sriramoman1> ikonia: can u pls educate me how to set safe graphics mode from grub then:P
[18:42] <tank> qwert_ if you have a windows system somewhere, unetbootin is crazy good
[18:42] <ikonia> sriramoman1: look at the options on the livecd
[18:42] <bobstro> Qwert_:  the 1st will let you put dozens on, so long as you have space
[18:43] <vatts> bobstro, safe mode? dont know will see. sriramoman1  i'll try
[18:43] <Qwert_> bobstro: tank: Thanks :)
[18:43] <bobstro> Qwert_:  those are both windows progs, btw
[18:43] <Karen_m> sound works, reboot, sound no longer works.  Reboot, no hardware found...  reboot again, found...   reboot again.. no sound.  What is going on?
[18:43] <vatts> bobstro, its not laptop and no drive is sata and this is only SATA box in whole house (i'm way behind with it :D)
[18:43] <Qwert_> bobstro: Np..Ill manage
[18:43] <sriramoman1> ikonia: i want safe graphics mode in installed ubuntu, not livecd
[18:43] <sriramoman1> :D
[18:44] <vatts> and PLEASE someone make floodbot lift me off -.-"
[18:44] <ikonia> vatts: when you boot the livecd - do you get a boot menu
[18:44] <ksbalaji> Which folders are deleted if 10.4 is installed in an existing unformatted ubuntu system partition? Whether /home is deleted? I undrstand that /home folder is not lost if the partition is not allowed to be formatted.
[18:44] <vatts> YAP
[18:44] <vatts> :D
[18:44] <ikonia> sriramoman1: look at the OPTIONS in the live CD - that will tell you have to set it
[18:44] <bobstro> vatts:  there are some recovery discs out there that don't use the gui that might boot easier.
[18:44] <ikonia> vatts: please keep the noise down in the channel, and floodbot will leave you alone
[18:44] <vatts> so what do you say to me to do... graphics mode 791?
[18:44] <ikonia> vatts: when you boot the CD - do you get a menu
[18:44] <vatts> vga=791 *tries*
[18:44] <Maletor> Can anyone answer this question about having two LANs http://serverfault.com/questions/182655/connecting-two-lans
[18:44] <bobstro> vatts:  i'd try safe mode if present 1st to see if it works at all.
[18:44] <vatts> ikonia, yes!
[18:45] <ikonia> vatts: what are the menu options
[18:45] <vatts> try, install, check cd for defects, try RAM, boot HDD1...
[18:45] <chad_chenault> #twitlive
[18:45] <vatts> and those Help, language, kbd layout, modes, accessibility etc.
[18:45] <sriramoman1> ksbalaji: if u have the habit of storing /home in seperate partition, then it will always be safe while upgradation in particular :)
[18:45]  * vatts tries vgamode
[18:45] <ikonia> vatts: there is no recovery/safe option ?
[18:45] <tank> guys, i need a program like daemon-tools to mount an iso
[18:45] <sriramoman1> vatts: did vga option work for u?
[18:46] <bobstro> Maletor:  at 1st glance, that looks like policy-based routing
[18:46] <vatts> ikonia, well you might thouhgt "Boot ubutu in safe graphics mode"? if so, thats under F4
[18:46] <etrisnanto> helllo alll
[18:46] <vatts> i'm trying it now
[18:46] <FusionX> Can anyone help me with this problem? --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577543
[18:46] <siffar> hi guys
[18:46] <bobstro> Maletor:  but 192.168.0.0/16 addresses don't look right for external.
[18:46] <Solid-Snake> etrisnanto, hey.
[18:46] <vatts> sriramoman1, trying safe boot first
[18:46] <ikonia> bobstro: they are non-routable, so impossible
[18:46] <bobstro> ikonia:  that's what i mean
[18:46] <vatts> then i'll think which F to choose to edit boot options (i guess F6??)
[18:47] <ikonia> vatts: F6, correct
[18:47] <bobstro> ikonia:  nobody on outside will route 'em, so the example doesn't look right.
[18:47] <FusionX> Can anyone help me with this problem? --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577543 HELP ME PLEASE!
[18:47] <ikonia> FusionX: stop asking
[18:47] <vatts> ikonia, well its outta my screen so its just guess :D
[18:47]  * vatts happy from failing
[18:47] <FusionX> ok sorry
[18:47] <ikonia> FusionX: you've posted on the forum, people will respond
[18:47] <vatts> Huh it puts me to busybox again!
[18:47] <vatts> :\
[18:47] <Manuelbrs> hey tank, i use gmount-iso
[18:47] <FusionX> oops wrong tab sorry
[18:47] <siffar> I am using 10.04 and I am unable to change my cursor in Gnome :(
[18:47]  * vatts remembers that he needed some boot options for sata @ 8.10 :\
[18:48] <tank> Manuelbrs: ty
[18:48] <vatts> Ah
[18:48] <ikonia> vatts: you really shouldn't need anything, this isn't a raid disk is it ?
[18:48] <vatts> nope
[18:48] <Manuelbrs> xD
[18:48] <vatts> but now it says
[18:48] <weez^> how can i install a .tar.gz file?
[18:48] <Solid-Snake> siffar, chose a new theme.. you can customize it to look like the current one. but the default doesn't let you change....
[18:48] <sriramoman1> siffar: go to system->preferences->appearances and customize it to ur heart's content!
[18:48] <weez^> i got it in my download folder
[18:48] <vatts> usb 3-2 device not accepting address 2, error -71
[18:48] <ikonia> weez^: what do you want to install ?
[18:48] <vatts> hub wthheredunno Unable to enumerate USB device on port 2
[18:48] <weez^> Macbuntu-10.04 theme
[18:48] <Manuelbrs> it's easy to work
[18:48] <vatts> and again SDA writehrough
[18:48] <ikonia> vatts: that's just usb errors
[18:48]  * vatts reboots without USB
[18:48] <ikonia> !themes | weez^
[18:49] <vatts> ikonia, well i just know what USB error means :P
[18:49] <bobstro> Maletor:  i don't *think* dd-wrt will do that level of routing.
[18:49] <siffar> Solid-Snake & sriramoman, I can select it but that still does not change it >_<
[18:49] <melkor> Does anybody else have a problem with the 'fade out' when the display turns off?  Mine starts fading and I cant wake it back up till its finished.
[18:49]  * vatts reboots without USB
[18:49] <ikonia> vatts: we don't need a commentary, lets work it through cleanly
[18:49] <sriramoman1> FusionX: can u pls paste ur /etc/X11/xorg.conf and update ur post at ubuntuforum
[18:49] <siffar> though If I use Xubuntu login, I can.
[18:49] <bobstro> Maletor:  the question isn't very clear as posted.
[18:49] <weez^> ikonia: i got it on my download folder and i'm already on my folder... i tried to make cd /Macbuntu-10.04/ but it wont work
[18:49] <Solid-Snake> siffar, i know that mine didn;t change because of the default theme..
[18:49] <vatts> ikonia, well i guess live cds are unversal for X86 and X64 eh?
[18:49] <ikonia> weez^: read the links I gave you
[18:49] <bobstro> vatts:  leave usb off until booted, yes
[18:49] <sriramoman1> siffar: try a restart of X (login+logout)
[18:49] <ikonia> vatts: no, 64is for 64bit only, 32 will work on either
[18:49] <FusionX> sriramoman1there's no xorg.conf in ubuntu 10.04
[18:49] <Maletor> bobstro: but you know what i'm trying to do right
[18:50] <Maletor> bobstro: can you help me understand my problem better
[18:50] <siffar> let me do that and come back to you guys. BRB
[18:50] <vatts> ikonia, kk thx
[18:50] <vatts> so it should work
[18:50]  * vatts sights
[18:50] <bobstro> Maletor:  sort of, but the page is not very clear. it sounds like you want to route different traffic over different links based on protocol.
[18:50] <bobstro> Maletor:  a lot of people try to do that with 2 ISPs
[18:50] <ikonia> back in a minute
[18:50]  * vatts sees black screen at vga=791... *waits*
[18:50] <sriramoman1> FusionX: is it so! omg! thanks for educating me about this change!
[18:50] <Maletor> bobstro: ya that's kind of what i'm trying to do
[18:51] <vatts> just a _ in top left part of screen... *sight* will see...
[18:51]  * sriramoman1 wishes vatts good luck!
[18:51] <FusionX> sriramoman1 np lol
[18:51] <vatts> thx man
[18:51] <vatts> i think it wont do much with it...
[18:51] <Maletor> bobstro: dual wan is another option but that is a bad option as round robin load balancing doesn't work for me
[18:51] <vatts> i think that 8.10 never booted on this sata box... *hugs his ATA drives*
[18:51] <Karen_m> sound works, reboot, sound no longer works.  Reboot, no hardware found...  reboot again, found...   reboot again.. no sound.  What is going on?
[18:51] <bobstro> Maletor:  it's not trivial because of how routing works. it can be done, but i'm not sure with dd-wrt.
[18:51] <vatts> Karen_m, no spam  :\
[18:51] <sriramoman1> can we have virtual IP's in wlan?
[18:52] <Maletor> bobstro: i just want two gateways and two external ips which are on the same network
[18:52] <ikonia> Maletor: that's not going to happen
[18:52] <sriramoman1> so that we can connect to more than one wifi source
[18:52] <Maletor> ikonia: what are my options
[18:52] <vatts> eeeeeeeeeeeerm sriramoman1 i think it wont do anything :\
[18:52] <ikonia> Maletor: use one isp
[18:52] <ikonia> vatts: please stop with the random noise
[18:52] <vatts> just a _ top left
[18:52] <Maletor> ikonia: they suck
[18:52] <bobstro> Maletor:  for redundancy or performance?
[18:52] <Maletor> bobstro: performance
[18:52] <bobstro> Maletor:  so external is ONE network?
[18:52] <ikonia> Maletor: I can't help that
[18:52] <Maletor> ikonia: neither can i
[18:53] <ikonia> Maletor: ok, so then, you're not going to progress this
[18:53] <melkor> Can I make it not 'fade out' when it is going put display to sleep?
[18:53] <bobstro> Maletor:  for redundancy, you could use vrrp. a faster interface to that ONE network would be easier.
[18:53] <Maletor> ok - but the solution i wanted is just a dream
[18:53] <ikonia> Maletor: correct
[18:53] <Solid-Snake> So how does IRC work? does this client program just connect to a server, and then a directory in the server? or is it more complicated?
[18:53] <bobstro> Maletor:  you want to aggregate two routers to an outside network for faster performance? yes, without spending more money, i think so.
[18:54] <ikonia> Solid-Snake: much more complicated, join #freenode and ask for an explination
[18:54] <Random832> Solid-Snake: what do you mean a "directory"?
[18:54] <Karen_m> vatts, who is spamming?  I'm asking a question... if you don't know, just say it.. don't classify a question you don't know as spam... kinda rude
[18:54] <Random832> it's not like a website, there's no file/folder structure
[18:54] <leonardo_> ubuntu es?
[18:54] <leonardo_> join ubuntu-es
[18:54] <siffar> that didn't help...
[18:54] <siffar> I have different cursors >_<
[18:55] <vatts> Karen_m, well i have tons of words to say but it would count as offtopic so i'm ending here
[18:55] <bobstro> melkor:  yes, but i've forgotten where exactly. the option does exist.
[18:55] <siffar> window titles have old and widgets have what I had chosen
[18:55] <Solid-Snake> siffar, didju change themes like i said?
[18:55] <melkor> bobstro: I've disabled the screen saver that might have been it.
[18:55] <siffar> yes @ Solid-Snake. I think its not Gnome problem but Compiz one. Could it be?
[18:55] <bobstro> melkor:  maybe under power options too. i have seen option to set fade-in and out times. are you using compiz?
[18:56] <Karen_m> vatts, good.. you shouldn't have started.
[18:56] <Solid-Snake> siffar, chose clearloooks or something, then u can change with no log in or log out.
[18:56] <collabra> !es | leonardo_
[18:56] <vatts> Karen_m, sry ;)
[18:56] <bobstro> vatts:  what did you do to annoy admins?
[18:56] <leonardo_> ubuntu in spanish plix?
[18:56] <bobstro> vatts:  safe mode died too?
[18:56] <vatts> bobstro, i did just annoy myself
[18:56] <Solid-Snake> siffar, maybe, didju try a compiz-switch?
[18:56] <vatts> bobstro, safe mode said NO
[18:56] <vatts> ;)
[18:56] <Enyone__> le lien français est ici?
[18:56] <andi> hi
[18:56] <ikonia> leonardo_: #ubuntu-es
[18:56] <ikonia> !fr | Enyone__
[18:56] <bobstro> vatts:  and you're using a 10.04 live cd now?
[18:56] <vatts> safemode and USB said no...^
[18:56] <siffar> what's compiz switch. Sorry, I am a newbie
[18:56] <vatts> bobstro, 8.10*
[18:57] <Guest82893> I have been searching google for awhile now, no solution found
[18:57] <bobstro> vatts:  if you got it to work once with 8.10, you might just try 10.04. they add a lot of hardware support with newer releases.
[18:57] <Solid-Snake> siffar, hit Alt+F2
[18:57] <josh99> Best way to install iPod Linux from Ubuntu?
[18:57] <Solid-Snake> siffar, then type: compiz-switch
[18:57] <josh99> There's an installer for it, but it's a Mac DMG
[18:57] <Guest82893> the audio doesn't sound right
[18:57] <vatts> bobstro, /me cant really wait a lot of time :\
[18:57] <bobstro> vatts:  understood, but you've burnt a lot of time already!
[18:57] <siffar> it says cannot launch :(
[18:58] <siffar> should I try that from terminal?
[18:58] <bobstro> vatts:  once you get it working, i suggest you build a couple of rescue cds or pendrives just in case!
[18:58] <Solid-Snake> siffar, go ahead.
[18:58] <bobstro> vatts:  hindsight is always 20:20 :)
[18:58] <siffar> it says command not found in terminal
[18:58] <vatts> bobstro, ??
[18:58] <vatts> (at 20:20)
[18:58] <Solid-Snake> !who | siffar
[18:59] <bobstro> vatts:  if you're still trying to use 8.10 livecd, you're going to have to figure out those parameters you used before. a newer livecd may have better support for your sata chipset.
[18:59] <bobstro> vatts:  i had newer motherboards with sata that weren't seen with 8.04 LTS for example, but they work just fine with 10.04.
[18:59] <zorklat> hey, anyone:  what's the preferred console trace utility?
[18:59] <siffar> !Solid-Snake I cannot run that in terminal as well, it says command not found
[18:59] <vatts> *sight* i start to hate new stuffs... bobstro i'll burn it now, i've just DLed CD for my box ;D hopefully live knows how to talk with amd64 too...^
[18:59] <ikonia> zorklat: trace what ?
[18:59] <ikonia> vatts: did you download 32 or 64bit cd ?
[19:00] <bobstro> vatts:  it's a 386 cd?
[19:00] <vatts> bobstro, 8.10 is free cd i got from 'em
[19:00] <bobstro> vatts:  should be ok, just not the other way (amd64 livecd on other cpu)
[19:00] <zorklat> ikonia: traceroute.  Checks the packet path from me to a remote server, includes IPs of the hops, how long everything takes, etc.
[19:00] <sriramoman1> siffar: what do u want from compiz
[19:00] <bobstro> vatts:  yeah, but it's OLD now.
[19:00] <vatts> kk
[19:00] <vatts> brb
[19:00] <sriramoman1> vatts: that means its the 32bit one: i386
[19:00] <siffar> !sriramoman1 Just want to change cursor
[19:00] <ikonia> zorklat: I know what traceroute is, - you just asked for a "trace" program
[19:00] <bobstro> vatts:  the good news is that once you get it booted, you should be able to pull those files off ntfs, just so long as the disk isn't too screwed up.
[19:00] <Solid-Snake> sriramoman1, he want his cursor to change. i'm not sure how compiz works but. its in the way apparently.
[19:00] <ikonia> vatts: did you download the 32 or 64it cd
[19:00] <greenIT> hi, i have a problem: i made e2fsck on a mounted device (i know it was stupid, i read it 2 late...) and he "repaired" some inodes, but now ubuntu wont boot anymore.. can i repair this inodes?
[19:00] <David-SDX> hey guys
[19:01] <ikonia> greenIT: doubtful
[19:01] <David-SDX> i install quayzcdajs music player how do i get it to work with my ipod?
[19:01] <icarus-c> greenIT, unlikely.
[19:01] <etrisnanto> FusionX, did you also check the dmesg on /var/log/messages ?
[19:01] <siffar> brb. connecting using Xchat. Pidgin is confusing for me :(
[19:01] <sriramoman1> siffar: did u try restarting ur X after changing the cursor?
[19:01] <greenIT> icarus-c, so i can't repair my system?
[19:01] <David-SDX> or whatever its called
[19:01] <ikonia> David-SDX: getting the application name right, is important
[19:02] <ikonia> greenIT: it's doubtful
[19:02] <David-SDX> lol
[19:02] <Solid-Snake> sriramoman1, yes he did. he logged out and logged in. no luck.
[19:02] <siffar> !sriramoman1 yes I just restarted
[19:02] <David-SDX> Guayadeque
[19:02] <David-SDX> is the name
[19:02] <greenIT> ikonia, ok, but how could it work, even though its doubtful?
[19:02] <siffar> anyway to autocomplete names ?
[19:02] <FusionX> etrisnanto nope, i'm on XP now, i'll check bit later and update the thread (studying currently)
[19:02] <ikonia> greenIT: it won't
[19:03] <icarus-c> greenIT, fsck on a mounted file system should damage it badly
[19:03] <ikonia> David-SDX: the documentation suggests no ipod support
[19:03] <collabra> siffar: <tab> just <tab>
[19:03] <Solid-Snake> siffar, don't put the exclamation mark in front of names. you confusing the bot :P
[19:03] <Lollipop56> siffar, read my pm
[19:03] <David-SDX> what supports the ipod then?
[19:03] <brew1brew_> I'm looking for some ideas.
[19:03] <Lollipop56> David-SDX, Rhythmbox, Banshee
[19:03] <collabra> siffar: you can type a few letters and then hit <tab> for completion
[19:03] <greenIT> icarus-c, yeah.. i know now.... but is there a way to try (just to try, don't say doubtful anymore -.-) to repair it?
[19:03] <icarus-c> greenIT, if you want to try some luck, i would boot with a livecd, make a disk image with "dd" and then try to fsck it
[19:03] <brew1brew_> My sister updated her Kubuntu 10.04 HP computer and when she rebooted it boots through grub then at "starting up" the video goes dead and monitor gores to sleep.
[19:03] <ikonia> David-SDX: very little, it's a 3rd party propritary device, rythembox supports it
[19:04] <ikonia> greenIT: no
[19:04] <etrisnanto> FusionX, ok. Just check the dmesg also when you get login and also check X11.conf files...
[19:04] <FredFlinstone> hi, how do i mount my xp and data partitions forever, so they show in all file selection boxes?
[19:04] <David-SDX> ive been using rhythem box
[19:04] <David-SDX> but
[19:04] <ikonia> greenIT: a.) you don't know what your doing and it's very complex b.) it won't work any way
[19:04] <icarus-c> greenIT, it should be easier to just reinstall
[19:04] <David-SDX> i cant sync it
[19:04] <David-SDX> or add music to it
[19:04] <Solid-Snake> FredFlinstone, u would have to put it in fstab. be careful tho
[19:04] <ikonia> David-SDX: itunes is all that syncs
[19:04] <FusionX> etrisnanto ok i'll update the thread when i see
[19:04] <siffar> thanks guys for auto complete. :D
[19:04] <collabra> np
[19:04] <sriramoman1> FredFlinstone: add the entry to /etc/fstab
[19:04] <greenIT> damn... ok, then i reinstall my system -.-
[19:04] <David-SDX> i cant add music or movies to it..
[19:04] <Lollipop56> David-SDX, you just drag the music onto your iPod icon?
[19:04] <icarus-c> greenIT, unless you put /home  on / (rootfs) 's file system too..
[19:04] <greenIT> good that i recovered my home-directory^^
[19:04] <bobstro> FredFlinstone:  are they internal drives, or external/removable?
[19:04] <David-SDX> i tried that..
[19:04] <Lollipop56> movies are not supported by Rhythmbox
[19:05] <Lollipop56> strange :S
[19:05] <vatts> bobstro, can i PM you?
[19:05] <Lollipop56> David-SDX, are you sure you have the right plugin enabled?
[19:05] <Solid-Snake> ahh the fstab, it has saved me quite a bit of time in the past.
[19:05] <FredFlinstone> they are internal partitions only 1 drive
[19:05] <bobstro> vatts:  sure. i may have to leave in a few minutes though.
[19:05] <brew1brew_> so can anyone tell my how to make changes to grub intries on boot and have grub use them?
[19:05] <FredFlinstone> is there a site explaining it?
[19:05] <David-SDX> which plugin do i need?
[19:05] <bobstro> FredFlinstone:  mount them as ntfs and add entries in /etc/fstab then should work.
[19:05] <bobstro> FredFlinstone:  search forums perhaps. there are guides.
[19:05] <sriramoman1> siffar: try creating a new user and test changing ur cursor there. or if no admin previliges, delete ur .gnome* folders
[19:05] <Lollipop56> somewhere in the middle of the list, it'll say something of iPod support
[19:05] <sriramoman1> FredFlinstone: ntfs-3g should be installd
[19:06] <siffar> sriramoman1, I can do that
[19:06] <David-SDX> okay
[19:06] <siffar> sriramoman1, I will revert to you after that
[19:06] <bobstro> FredFlinstone:  hint - you will need to add uid and gid options to map permissions to your linux user account. only one can 'own' ntfs.
[19:06] <siffar> brb
[19:06] <FredFlinstone> ah, so sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g ?
[19:07] <sriramoman1> FredFlinstone: if its not installed.
[19:07] <Solid-Snake> so what are the possible commands for ubottu?
[19:07] <FredFlinstone> bobstro, i'm a linux newbie , how do i do that?
[19:07] <sriramoman1> ubottu:
[19:07] <sriramoman1> ubottu: hiii
[19:07] <IdleOne> !bot > Solid-Snake
[19:07] <collabra> !bot
[19:08] <HexLaTor> hi, how many days still for the next ubuntu 10.10 ?
[19:08] <BSODOfThePast> until
[19:08] <BSODOfThePast> the 10th month
[19:08] <brew1brew_> so can anyone tell me how to make changes to grub during boot?
[19:08] <Scottie1> Help with trying to write a two line terminal command?
[19:08] <HexLaTor> 20 days then...great :d
[19:08] <BSODOfThePast> protip, the first number is the year, the second number is the month
[19:08] <sriramoman1> BSODOfThePast: do u still experience BSOD's?
[19:08] <BSODOfThePast> 10.04 - 2010, month 4
[19:08] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: welcome. installed successfully?
[19:08] <bobstro> FredFlinstone:  you do want ntfs-3g, yes. try mounting the drive from the terminal first to make sure it's working.
[19:08] <HexLaTor> BSODOfThePast, yeah
[19:09] <BSODOfThePast> sriramoman, only when im on windows 7
[19:09] <bobstro> FredFlinstone:  i don't have much time, sorry.
[19:09] <ThunderBird89> greetings
[19:09] <collabra> BSODOfThePast: didn't know that.
[19:09] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: No. I'm trying to redownload and check for errors, but I need to know how to download a page of text and run a command about it
[19:09] <bobstro> FredFlinstone:  does the partition show in your 'places' menu?
[19:09] <ThunderBird89> I'm probably asking in the wrong place, but anyone experienced in network architecture here?
[19:09] <bobstro> FredFlinstone:  if so, is just accessing it there good enough?
[19:09] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: which OS do u use currently.
[19:09] <Solid-Snake> ThunderBird89, slightly
[19:10] <BSODOfThePast> thunderbird, why?
[19:10] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: I currently have no OS. I'm running a Ubuntu trial.
[19:10] <BSODOfThePast> I had some ccna classes but I didnt pay much attention lol
[19:10] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  what sort of network architecture?
[19:10] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: md5sum /dev/sr0
[19:10] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  it's off-topic probably, but ask
[19:10] <ThunderBird89> I'm looking to 'hide' a router on a network from detection. aside from TTL incrementing, what else can I do?
[19:10] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: that should generate ur md5sum. then verify the output with that given in the websites
[19:10] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Is that the command I need to run?
[19:10] <ThunderBird89> thank you for the help!
[19:11] <UbuXubu> i set my power options to "never", so why does my monitor keep going black if i don't use ubuntu for a few minutes?
[19:11] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  you want it inline but invisible?
[19:11] <BSODOfThePast> hub mode?
[19:11] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  sounds like man-in-the-middle stuff :)
[19:11] <alaing> can someone help with with putty I've not used it before.
[19:11] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: It isn't reacting...
[19:11] <t__> anyone know how to use mahera??
[19:11] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: yeah, to verify the disk. and it'd take more than 5 minutes, choose between this and download, depending on which is faster:P
[19:11] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  so same subnet off both interfaces, right?
[19:11] <alaing> what do i need to enable on my server edtion 10.04 ?
[19:11] <ThunderBird89> that's the idea, yes. A Wireless router to make my connection wireless. no shady business, just want to get rid of the cable, and the admins officially forbit WLAN
[19:12] <icarus-c> UbuXubu, you have screensaver enabled?
[19:12] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Well, what I found on the site isn't a download file...it's just a page with text...so I saved it...but I'm not sure how to activate it
[19:12] <UbuXubu> i will look icarus-c
[19:12] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  bypassing policy *is* shady business... maybe a firing offense or get you in trouble at school.
[19:12] <BSODOfThePast> Lol, cant you just hide the SSID
[19:12] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: it would give u a dumb terminal till the checksum is verified
[19:12] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Yeah, no response.
[19:12] <BSODOfThePast> or do i miss something
[19:12] <Solid-Snake> i love shady buisness, its so fun.
[19:12] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  that said, have it spoof your computer's mac address on the "inside" network.
[19:13] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: let it finish checking. till then it WILL be a dumb terminal. thats the silent nature of *nix. they never make noise!
[19:13] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  you don't WANT it to route from outside. you want NAT on inside addresses to appear as if coming from outside interface, which can have mac address of your internal (allowed) computer.
[19:13] <ThunderBird89> BSOD, Snake: done, but I'm thinking there are some probes running on the network that might detect it. or is this a long shot?
[19:13] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: I'm really confused. Is that why it isn't responding?
[19:13] <maedox> alaing, apt-get install openssh-server
[19:13] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  is this at school by any chance?
[19:13] <alaing> thanks maedox I'll install that now
[19:13] <ThunderBird89> a dormitory, but yes
[19:13] <Solid-Snake> what is a lighter interface? XFCE4 or LXDE
[19:13] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  we did this at my sons' dorm. :)
[19:14] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: patiently wait for the command to complete executing. it will take minimum 5 minutes. till then it would look as though its not responding
[19:14] <Random832> Solid-Snake: fluxbox
[19:14] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  most wireless routers can do this.
[19:14] <Solid-Snake> Random832, i meant of the two.
[19:14] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: My bad. Is it going to mess with it if I typed in the space below it?
[19:14] <ThunderBird89> I can disable the beacons, and MAC-spoofing is a given since they enforce computer registration with a MAC lockdown
[19:14] <Solid-Snake> Random832, thx anyway.
[19:14] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: no. nothing will happen
[19:14] <Random832> lol i was just joking around
[19:15] <ThunderBird89> I was thinking of incrementing the TTL by one to hide its presence from a trace, and possibly something else
[19:15] <ThunderBird89> if needed
[19:15] <Solid-Snake> Random832, yeah i hate fluxbox
[19:15] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: as long as u have not typed any key-combinations
[19:15] <Random832> supposedly lxde was created in response to xfce being too 'heavy'
[19:15] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  that is a different issue then. the mac lockdown will be on the wired side. you can hide your ssid etc, but you are still detectable if they come a-hunting. be sure doing this won't get you kicked out of the dorm.
[19:15] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Alright. Thank you. This the time installer made it further, but then crashed out again, giving me crap about my harddisk.
[19:15] <alaing> maedox: ok done what do i need to do next?
[19:15] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: I retyped the code you gave me..
[19:15] <cconstantine_> Hey guys, is it possible to use the query engine to do something like: 'SELECT SomeColumn from SomeModel where ...'  and not get full model objects?
[19:15] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  use GOOD security on the wireless side.
[19:15] <UbuXubu> icarus-c, there is nothing under screen savewr in lucid that says it is actually on..it was set to blank and :computer is idle after 2 hours" ?
[19:15] <ThunderBird89> given, I'm going to enforce MAC-screening and WPA-pass
[19:16] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  i work this sort of thing from the other side. it's usually a firing offense, or gets you in deep trouble at school, depending on policy.
[19:16] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: run the "code", wait for it to run and return u to the command prompt.
[19:16] <icarus-c> UbuXubu, what about "Activate screensaver when computer is idle"
[19:16] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  use WPA2, but yes, that's good.
[19:16] <UbuXubu> icarus-c, how to i set it so the screen just stays on forever
[19:16] <mdsky> Goodbye @ all
[19:16] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: what is the title of ur downloaded ubuntu.
[19:16] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Alright...waiting
[19:16] <maedox> alaing, input the server hostname or ip address in putty and click connect.
[19:17] <UbuXubu> icarus-c, no the activate was NOT checked
[19:17] <nuuub> my nvidia 6100 is not detected though i installed nvidia-current...anyone knows how to solve this?
[19:17] <maedox> unless you have some firewall in front of it, then you need to open port 22/tcp first.
[19:17] <ThunderBird89> I probably would, that's why I want to hide it if I can. they probably won't come with a sniffer, but I'm worried about a network probe
[19:17] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Uhm...like, the number? Well, on the desktop it says "Ubuntu 10.04 1 LTS"
[19:17] <Solid-Snake> what is a network in simple terms?
[19:17] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  if you're using NAT on the router, the only thing they'll see on the wired side is that address, using the mac you set. don't broadcast ssid and it helps.
[19:17] <FredFlinstone> how do i run nautils as root?
[19:17] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: and is it the 32-bit version or the 64bit one
[19:17] <maedox> FredFlinstone, gksudo nautilus
[19:17] <Solid-Snake> FredFlinstone, terminal then sudo nautilus
[19:17] <Lollipop56> FredFlinstone, gksudo nautilus
[19:17] <UbuXubu> icarus-c, i want the computer to never consider itself idle and to never use the screen saver and i do not see any setting to do that
[19:18] <icarus-c> UbuXubu, 1. uncheck "Activate screensaver when computer is idle" ; 2.  in Power Management Preferences -> AC / battery -> Put display to sleep when inactive for:  never
[19:18] <Solid-Snake> Lollipop56, what is gksudo
[19:18] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  use NAT and you're ok on the wired side (mostly). be aware though, they can probably still figure things out if they really want to. if this is a big risk, is it worth it?
[19:18] <UbuXubu> icarus-c, that was already done
[19:18] <maedox> !gksudo | Solid-Snake
[19:18] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  get a 3g/4g wireless plan and don't use their network!
[19:18] <Lollipop56> there you go Solid-Snake
[19:18] <alaing> maedox: i have win7 64bit that does use a firewall
[19:18] <josh99> Okay, I've installed iPodLinux, but seemingly not PodZilla.
[19:18] <icarus-c> Solid-Snake, gksudo is sudo for GTK+ application (GUI)
[19:18] <UbuXubu> icarus-c, yet if i do nothing the screen goes black
[19:18] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: 32, sorry.
[19:18] <ThunderBird89> bobstro: if it's that hard, it might not be, actually...
[19:18] <Solid-Snake> thx [list of names]
[19:19] <maedox> alaing, only the server is affected by the firewall, you win7 firewall might ask you to confirm that putty is allowed to make outbound connections though.
[19:19] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: paste the output of the command, once it is done. i will tell u if the md5sum is correct
[19:19] <stealthx> hey.. this is the support irc right?
[19:19] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  it's not really hard. the wired side is easy, and wireless setup just takes some thought and testing. but that doesn't mean you're *safe*.
[19:19] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Still no response.
[19:19] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  i can recommend dd-wrt on linksys hardware.
[19:19] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: pls wait for it to complete.
[19:19] <Scottie1> stealthx: Yerp.
[19:20] <stealthx> yay!
[19:20] <ThunderBird89> bobstro: that's what I'm worried about. I offered them the router to use as an AP, but they said that 'WLAN is not supported, so no way'
[19:20] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: I am. I'm going to try to do it via USB again.
[19:20] <alaing> maedox how do i check the server?
[19:20] <ThunderBird89> incidentally, that's what I have: Linksys WRT54G with dd-wrt
[19:20] <alaing> i do have gnomedesktop setup on my severedition
[19:20] <UbuXubu> icarus-c, there is no NEVER choice for screen saver in lucid, i had already done what you suggested.
[19:20] <alaing> i do have gnomedesktop setup on my server edition
[19:20] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: since u are RUNNING the cd which u are installing from, md5sum may take more time to compute
[19:20] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  it's not really hard. the wireless router probably does it by default, except for the mac spoofing. that will be in options.
[19:21] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: are u running it from livecd right now or liveusb?
[19:21] <maedox> alaing, run ufw status in a terminal on the server
[19:21] <stealthx> i have an old gateway chipset, i installed ubuntu... and after a random amount of time the screen turns white with colored bars all over
[19:21] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: I'm not touching it til it responds. I'm running the trial from a cd. Once I check the code, I'm going to put the NEW download on a usb.
[19:21] <icarus-c> UbuXubu, do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[19:21] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  using nat, everything will appear to be from the router interface, which you set to use the mac address of your 'authorized' computer.
[19:21] <ThunderBird89> bobstro: yes, I have thet set up. so you're saying they're only going to see it if they know what they're looking for if I NAT
[19:21] <FredFlinstone> i tried auto-configure in ntfs config, i still cannot see the drives when i say try import pics to picasa from xp
[19:22] <stealthx> i am useing an old ati xpress 200... which i suspect is the culpret
[19:22] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  more likely, they'll spot your wireless, even if the ssid is hidden.
[19:22] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ md5sum /dev/sr0
[19:22] <Scottie1> 9a95ed6f6ec38fb58c446dba1add6a08  /dev/sr0
[19:22] <FredFlinstone> the folders exist in my media folder
[19:22] <alaing> maedox: Status :inactive
[19:22] <ThunderBird89> stealthx: ATI under Ubuntu? bad bummer, I've had my share of problems with that...
[19:22] <alaing> port 22 by default?
[19:22] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: CD is perfect!
[19:22] <maedox> alaing, alright, then all connections are allowed.
[19:22] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  it should be difficult for them to detect you on the wired side, but i wouldn't say it's impossible. be careful what you open up on the wired side though. if you leave ports open, they may be able to detect it's a router rather than a computer.
[19:23] <ThunderBird89> bobstro: using a simple laptop, or they need dedicated hardware for that?
[19:23] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Okay, so the NEW download is good, or the thing I'm running is good?
[19:23] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  test all this. set up locally first and run some scans.
[19:23] <ThunderBird89> I mean wireless detection
[19:23] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: the thing u are runnign is itself good! :P
[19:23] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Then why did the install fail?
[19:23] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  if you leave ports open, they can often detect what hardware is using tools like nmap.
[19:23] <icarus-c> UbuXubu, try  "grep -i time /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*"   see does it produces any message
[19:23] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  but that's a bit of extra work, so perhaps not. but some security products might find you out.
[19:23] <aruljohn> what is the code used to download thru terminal
[19:24] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: do u have an external hard drive
[19:24] <ThunderBird89> bobstro: huh, I'll look into port-scanners, thanks
[19:24] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  you will be a 'rogue ap', the bane of security professionals.
[19:24] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Yes'sir.
[19:24] <alaing> its connected
[19:24] <maedox> aruljohn, wget URL
[19:24] <vadi2> Hi... why would root ever have OpenOffice opened when I never opened it? http://ubuntuone.com/p/GhZ/
[19:24] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: plug it in.
[19:24] <bobstro> ThunderBird89:  set up a machine on the 'outside' (wired) port and use nmap with the -O (os detection) option and see what it shows.
[19:24] <domjohnson> Hello
[19:25] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Must it be an ext hd? Or can I use my 8gig usb? (the usb is more handy, but I can go get my hd if needed)
[19:25] <alaing> maedox: thanks its working now.
[19:25] <ThunderBird89> bobstro: I try to keep my ap secured, I've had some problems like this before when I 'administered' our school network in place of our incompetent CS-teacher :D
[19:25] <domjohnson> Just installed a Yamaha WF192XG sound card to use an old midi keyboard, and I get the "Ubuntu Is Running in Low Graphics Mode" error
[19:25] <stealthx> hi... i have an old gateway chipset, i installed ubuntu... and after a random amount of time the screen turns white with colored bars all over
[19:25] <maedox> alaing, great :)
[19:25] <Solid-Snake> Is there an application for reading .app files? (Mac Executables.)
[19:25] <ThunderBird89> I'll get right on this, thank you very much for your help!
[19:25] <aruljohn> maedox: thanks
[19:25] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: since more space is intended, hard disk is recommended. and dont flip ur cd out now!!
[19:25] <Scottie1> Okay, Let me go get my hd. Brb!
[19:26] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: JUST plug in the hard disk, if u have it. withOUT reboot.
[19:26] <stealthx> can anyone help me please?
[19:26] <vatts> ikonia, http://vattz.vatts.operaunite.com/paste/?id=21&pass=ikScLdKmzYa8&act=show
[19:26] <vatts> read my story...
[19:26] <FredFlinstone> do i have to drag everything over to the ext 4 drive or what? heo do i fix these file dialog boxes, to show "xp" and "data" volumes as well as "file system"?
[19:26] <Solid-Snake> stealthx, maybe so.
[19:26] <FredFlinstone> on reboot the drives are on my desktop
[19:26] <neekers> can someone point me to a script that will email me when my disk get nearly full please
[19:26] <alaing> I'm having trouble remote desktop to my server. I setup Remote desktop on it. from my windows 7 machien I try and remote using tightvnc. It shows me like the first top line and then after a while I get ReadExact:SocketIPv4 error while readying.
[19:26] <neekers> not sure what i'm looking for
[19:27] <neekers> a bash script?
[19:27] <alaing> could it be because my server wifi is weak?
[19:27] <FredFlinstone> yet they don't  show up
[19:27] <stealthx> i need help with my ubuntu machine: i have an old gateway chipset, i installed ubuntu... and after a random amount of time the screen turns white with colored bars all over
[19:27] <vatts> stealthx, GFX maybe epic fail
[19:27] <Solid-Snake> neekers, seems advanced, try googling bash emailing
[19:27] <stealthx> i have an old ati xpress 200
[19:27] <yg_> stealthx, motherboard failure?
[19:28] <stealthx> which i suspect is the problem
[19:28] <icarus-c> vadi2, don't run openoffice with root..
[19:28] <vadi2> icarus-c: I -never- did.
[19:28] <neekers> Solid-Snake: well, the emailing part i understand, it's the determing when the disk is near full that i dont
[19:28] <stealthx> yg_: maybe
[19:28] <vadi2> icarus-c: just tried to open a ppt document and got this error.
[19:28] <stealthx> its an older gateway board
[19:28] <icarus-c> vadi2, are you trying to open it as root or ordinary user..
[19:28] <yg_> stealthx, tried other OS?
[19:28] <stealthx> yes...
[19:28] <icarus-c> vadi2, coz apparently openoffice thinks that you are root
[19:29] <vadi2> icarus-c: ordinary user, from ordinary user nautilus
[19:29] <stealthx> xp sometimes reboots
[19:29] <vadi2> icarus-c: I don't think so. It's saying root has already opened something.
[19:29] <Solid-Snake> neekers, your gonna have to figure out some type of variable like $var_name
[19:29] <stealthx> randomly
[19:29] <yg_> sounds like hardware
[19:29] <hmw> neekers: a quick web search showed this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mac-osx-unix-get-an-alert-when-my-disk-is-full/
[19:29] <FredFlinstone> can i fix these file dialog boxes, to show "xp" and "data" volumes as well as "file system"?
[19:29] <Solid-Snake> neekers, it must be a variable somewhere.
[19:29] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: HD Plugged and turned on. :)
[19:29] <stealthx> im just trying to see if there are any ways to hold it for as long as possible
[19:29] <neekers> hmw: thank you
[19:30] <icarus-c> vadi2, run command "ps aux|grep office" should tell you who is running open office
[19:30] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: great. now start the installer. ping me when u reach the partition stage
[19:30] <aruljohn> how to schedule automatic shutdown interminal
[19:30] <xenomorp1> ho bisogno di aiuto
[19:30] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: The installer that's on my desktop?
[19:30] <xenomorp1> non riesco a collegarmi a internet con flux box!
[19:30] <sriramoman1> aruljohn: shutdown -h 17:00 &
[19:30] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: yeah
[19:30] <ahri> i'm looking for the wbsd (winbond) driver for my toshiba laptop's SD card slot, any ideas where to find it?
[19:30] <cage_raphel> hello guys.. is there any actibe internet security software for Ubuntu 10.4. i already have clamwin installed but it does not give real time protection.. i am looking for a security softare which can provide real time protection.
[19:30] <hmw> aruljohn: the shutdown command can do it
[19:31] <vadi2> icarus-c: root is running some kind of a headless openoffice server ("soffice -headless -nologo -nofirststartwizard -accept=socket,host=127.0.0.1,port=8100;urp")
[19:31] <vadi2> icarus-c: and I never started it
[19:31] <aruljohn> sriramoman1: tx
[19:31] <stealthx> i think its a driver problem however
[19:31] <Solid-Snake> is there a program for me typing on algebraic equations, and it solving them (notice i said equations NOT expressions)
[19:31] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: I'm there.
[19:31] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: reached partitioning?
[19:31] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: It's telling me I have mounted partitions. Do I want to unmount them?
[19:31] <sriramoman1> select manual partition
[19:31] <stealthx> after all, ati drivers for linux suck
[19:32] <thedude42> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/642518
[19:32] <yg_> then why the XP random reboot?
[19:32] <thedude42> anyone else having that issue?  ATI/fglrx related
[19:32] <Solid-Snake> open source preferrably.
[19:32] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: before that. do u have unpartitioned freespace in the hdd?
[19:32] <bobstro> shut
[19:32] <stealthx> i updated the driver in xp and it seems to be working better now
[19:32] <Scottie1> The external is clean, and it's 80 gig.
[19:32] <stealthx> but that is still debatable
[19:33] <stealthx> as my applications still crash constantly
[19:33] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: great. then create a 30gig partition there, ext4, tick format, and mount point as "/"
[19:33] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: also create 2gig swap there
[19:33] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: First, though, am I going to have to have this external to use my computer? Because it isn't mine.
[19:34] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: this is mainly to test if it installs well there. if it does, wipe it off and return it back, get a new internal hdd
[19:35] <stealthx> scottie1: are u trying to boot off a external drive?
[19:35] <aruljohn> sriramoman1: can u help me more thn see my pm
[19:35] <ComradeHaz`> Hi all, is there a way to see what specific sudo commands I have been allowed to execute?
[19:35] <sriramoman1> aruljohn: pm?
[19:35] <Solid-Snake> is there petebyte hdds yet?
[19:35] <sriramoman1> Solid-Snake: nope
[19:35] <Scottie1> stealthx: Right now I'm just trying to get this to work. I've used 7 cds, 1 ext hd, and 1 usb, and none of the installs will go through.
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> ComradeHaz`: history | grep sudo
[19:35] <drecute> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /root -o force
[19:36] <drecute> please what does the -3g mean
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> Solid-Snake: you could make a raid array of one
[19:36] <thedude42> Solid-Snake: I've only seen petabyte netapp shelves, that's the closest thing you can just buy.... it's a bunch of disks
[19:36] <Solid-Snake> sriramoman1, i guess we have along way til 1024 TB
[19:36] <aruljohn> sriramoman1: private mesaage
[19:36] <drecute> anyone pls
[19:36] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: visualize that it will install well in the external hd, it WILL work!
[19:36] <WebDawg> jaunty isnt LTS?
[19:36] <stealthx> scottie1: what happens when the install fails
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> drecute: ntfs-3g is the filesystem type
[19:36] <FredFlinstone> in windows its caled dialog boxes, and they are not seeing anything except ext4
[19:36] <josh99> WebDawg: Nope, that's Lucid and Hardy.
[19:36] <sriramoman1> Solid-Snake: lets combine clouds to get them soon!
[19:36] <drecute> pls
[19:36] <sriramoman1> aruljohn: dint get any pm!
[19:36] <FredFlinstone> in a package i do file , import, and don't see them
[19:36] <thedude42> drecute: the -3g is part of the name ntfs-3g
[19:37] <Solid-Snake> sriramoman1, what is clouds?
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> WebDawg: no, hardy and lucid are. Jaunty dies next month
[19:37] <josh99> Anyone know where I can get PodZilla? Or, better yet, an installer I can run from Ubuntu for it?
[19:37] <FredFlinstone> yet they are mounted
[19:37] <FredFlinstone> wtf?
[19:37] <drecute> oh
[19:37] <drecute> thanks
[19:37] <WebDawg> Says that the security updates will not occur anymore?
[19:37] <thedude42> drecute: the more meaningful question you may be asking is, what is ntfs-3g?
[19:37] <josh99> I found some breed of installer, but it only installed the boot loader... UserLand. Apple OS is the only option
[19:37] <NullProphecy> Hi all. How can i force GDM to use fluxbox for a particular user (ie. regardless of what they pick from 'session')?
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> WebDawg: yes, support will be dropped
[19:37] <WebDawg> Does the community take up support or?
[19:37] <sriramoman1> Solid-Snake: cloud computing. many guys offering free space. like GMailFS did the trick, lets try a ggood one thru python to get 1024 space on cloud!
[19:37] <NullProphecy> I have a feeling it's something to do with the XSession file?
[19:37] <drecute> thedude42: i know it's a fs type
[19:37] <stealthx> scottie1: what happens when the install fails?
[19:38] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: whats ur advancement.
[19:38] <drecute> i have ubuntu on a usb
[19:38] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: both done. Next?
[19:38] <drecute> and i want to install
[19:38] <Scottie1> stealthx: It tells me my harddisk is bad
[19:38] <stealthx> hmmm
[19:38] <drecute> but it is giving me initramfs
[19:38] <Solid-Snake> sriramoman1, seems insecure...
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> WebDawg: the OS will still be supporeted in forums etc if people choose but there will be no updates on the official repos
[19:38] <thedude42> drecute: well, NTFS is the sftype, but the ntfs-3g part is just the name of the kernel driver implementation you're using in that command to mount the volume
[19:38] <drecute> so i guess maybe i should mount the usb first to root
[19:38] <neekers> ok, this is way off topic, but freaking cool... :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iANRO3I30nM
[19:38] <WebDawg> Well that sucks.
[19:38] <stealthx> scottie1: did u try a fsck?
[19:39] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: keep pressing next. finish it!
[19:39] <NullProphecy> anyone?
[19:39] <Scottie1> stealthx: I don't know what that is.
[19:39] <Crash1hd> How do I allow a space in a dir in a shell script? IE if my path is /home/crash1hd/Documents/My Projects/...
[19:39] <Solid-Snake> !spam | neekers
[19:39]  * sriramoman1 wishes Scottie1 great luck!
[19:39] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Leave the rest as 'free space'?
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> WebDawg: can't support all the old releases forevwer dude.
[19:39] <FredFlinstone> i tried auto-configure in ntfs config, i still cannot see the drives when i say try import pics to picasa from xp
[19:39] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: yeah. free space
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> WebDawg: the OS will stilll run and function. Just no more updates
[19:39] <drecute> thedude42: but i hope there's no threat then
[19:39] <stealthx> Scottie1:lol... theres ur problem...
[19:39] <thedude42> NullProphecy: in a traditional Linux environment that's where I would expect it, but Ubuntu's environment is not exactly traditional anymore
[19:39] <hmw> Crash1hd: either escape the space with a \ or use quotes:   ls my\ file\ with\ spaces   or  ls "my file..."  - also use tab completion! type: ls my<tab>
[19:39] <WebDawg> hrm
[19:40] <Scottie1> sealthx: If you aren't going to help, please don't taunt.
[19:40] <neekers> Solid-Snake; sorry man to bother you, but it wasnt spam
[19:40] <drecute> thedude42: it should work right?
[19:40] <FredFlinstone> does anyone have an idea for me?
[19:40] <thedude42> drecute: my undrstanding is that you want to use ntfs-3g as it is the most reliable and in active development, but my information could be dated
[19:40] <NullProphecy> hmw: yeah. I had to hack around just to change the gdm backdrop and icon. I'd liove to just use straight debian, but can't :(
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> FredFlinstone: are they usb or internal?
[19:40] <Solid-Snake> neekers, srry
[19:40] <FredFlinstone> internal
[19:40] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Problem. "Input/output error during read on /dev/sda" within like the first two seconds of installation
[19:40] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: listen to my guideline. i assure u full help till u attempt on ur ext hd.
[19:40] <FredFlinstone> all one drive
[19:40] <Solid-Snake> neekers, u said off-topic so i figured it was spam.
[19:40] <stealthx> first us a usb... and go to "system->adminiatration->make startup disk" in the ubuntu live cd
[19:40] <thedude42> NullProphecy: yes, you are crossing in to one of the many areas where Ubuntu deviates from Debian
[19:40] <drecute> i have the latest ubuntu
[19:41] <hmw> NullProphecy: i think, you told it to the wrong person
[19:41] <drecute> 10.04
[19:41] <NullProphecy> thedude42: oops - that was to you, now hmw - clicked the wrong name :P
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> FredFlinstone: if you run: sudo fdisk -l ,do you see the partitions?
[19:41] <Lollipop56> FredFlinstone, read my pm
[19:41] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: sda is ur internal hdd right!
[19:41] <Redhand> anyone know of any archives of updates to unsupported distro's?
[19:41] <hmw> heheh
[19:41] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: I don't know?
[19:41] <stealthx> scottie1: first us a usb... and go to "system->adminiatration->make startup disk" in the ubuntu live cd
[19:41] <drecute> so i guess it should be using the latest kernel
[19:41] <rethus> i have a php.ini in /etc/php5/cli/php.ini and in /etc/php5/apache2/.php.ini. Which one should i use?
[19:41] <inf_pz> Hi, I'm trying to install Citrix client on Ubuntu, downloaded all the different files, .tar.gz  -  .rpm  -  .dep, but I dont know how to install it, can anyone help? :)
[19:41] <drecute> 2.6
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> !eol | Redhand
[19:41] <rethus> i use apache, have adjust the cli/php.ini, and this takes also efect on apache.
[19:41] <rethus> means i have added xydebug
[19:41] <drecute> uname -a shows kernel 2.6
[19:41] <Solid-Snake> is there a free version of redhat?
[19:41] <hmw> rethus: this is just a guess... the ini file fpr cli sounds like it is for the cli (this is the shell) and the other is for the web server
[19:42] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: start it again from the installer on ur desktop. NOTE the letter of each physical drive
[19:42] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: I don't understand.
[19:42] <FredFlinstone> ActionParsnip, they r there
[19:42] <Lollipop56> Solid-Snake, yeah, Fedora
[19:42] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: i mean it would be"/dev/sda" for one hard disk, "/dev/sdb" for external hard disk and so on
[19:42] <thedude42> NullProphecy: in the past I've dug around and modified the scripts that GDM hooks call in order to customize things, but that was in Fedora.... however I wouldn't be surprised if Ubuntu did something similar since these things could be more related to the version of Gnome that Ubuntu uses over Debian
[19:42] <Redhand> hehe, I'd love to update ubottu, first I must update the entire computer. I'm running a computer that should have been trashed long ago
[19:42] <stealthx> sriramoman1: ur making it too complicated...
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> FredFlinstone: then you can mount them
[19:42] <NullProphecy> thedude42: cool - I'll check that out
[19:43] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: both my hd and my ext hd showed up in the partitioning..
[19:43] <rethus> hmw: if i do php -m i see xdebug twice... onece above, and once my own inserted.
[19:43] <FredFlinstone> i tried auto-configure in ntfs config, i still cannot see the drives when i say try import pics to picasa from xp
[19:43] <rethus> where does the dynamic modules loaded?
[19:43] <FredFlinstone> yet they are mounted
[19:43] <Scottie1> stealthx: It won't let me select my usb as a disk. It's an option, but it won't let me move forward.
[19:43] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: wait. i will link u a screenshot. that will help u better
[19:43] <u456503_> I found it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[19:43] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: I told it to ignore, and it continued..
[19:43] <stealthx> first plug in a usb and boot from cd... and go to "system->adminiatration->make startup disk" in the ubuntu live cd
[19:44] <u456503_> thanks
[19:44] <vienna> is there a bootwait option for ubuntu 10 to let the fstab wait until i entered the crypto password at boot?
[19:44] <Scottie1> stealthx: I've done that.
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> FredFlinstone: if you run: mount ,you can see how and where they are mounted and access the data
[19:44] <vatts> Me burned 10.04, me tried, me workey, ikonia :D
[19:44]  * vatts happy
[19:45] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: great! anyways, since it showed "I/O error", I suspect ur internal hd is gone.. coz such errors typically show up in scratched cd's
[19:45] <vatts> sriramoman1, ^^
[19:45] <sriramoman1> vatts: congrats!
[19:45] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Well, then I'm fucked.
[19:45] <stealthx> Scottie1: i had that problem too, all i had to do was first click the iso selection, then the drive...
[19:45] <IdleOne> !language | Scottie1
[19:45] <vatts> sriramoman1, well thx :D
[19:45] <stealthx> its a really stuped thing that happend to me
[19:45] <Scottie1> stealthx: I have it selected, though.
[19:45] <Scottie1> IdleOne: Sorry.
[19:45]  * vatts happy, byebye ;)
[19:46] <FredFlinstone> its not this pc, i probably am toast
[19:46] <Scottie1> ubottu: My bad.
[19:46] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: keep hope. tell me if the installation succeeds on ext
[19:46] <stealthx> yeah... but you have to click it in that order...
[19:46] <stealthx> its pretty dumb though
[19:46] <JamUnix> a question: I deleted my old Launchpad GPG key to sign the Code of Conduct in 2005 and add a new last night ..... should remove the code of conduct and strong (with the old key )???? and sign again with the new key that newly added launchpad
[19:46] <FredFlinstone> i'll have to set up irc on that or give up for now
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> inf_pz:http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/04/how-to-install-citrix-ica-client-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[19:46] <sriramoman1> vatts: can u pls temme in pvt msg what u did to correct ur problem
[19:47] <stealthx> scottie1: yeah... but you have to click it in that order... its pretty dumb though
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> JamUnix: i'd ask in #launchpad
[19:47] <Crash1hd> hmm odd cause I am trying to run the automysqlbackup.sh file I downloaded and i set the conf file path and in the conf file I set the path where to save (it makes all the folders the first time through, but when I go to run it again it comes up ambiguous redirect
[19:47] <NullProphecy> thedude42: woah. the gdm Xsession script is a *mess*
[19:47] <Scottie1> stealthx: it won't let me.
[19:47] <JamUnix> ActionParsnip,  ok
[19:47] <stealthx> scottie1: it wont let u click it?
[19:48] <Scottie1> stealthx: It won't let me continue.
[19:48] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: i recommend u to proceed in cd itself, knowing that ur md5sum matched
[19:48] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: proceed installation after ignores onto ur external hd the way i suggeste
[19:48] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Hm?
[19:48] <stealthx> scottie1: are u in the live cd?
[19:48] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: ***suggested
[19:48] <Crash1hd> hmw, hmm odd cause I am trying to run the automysqlbackup.sh file I downloaded and i set the conf file path and in the conf file I set the path where to save (it makes all the folders the first time through, but when I go to run it again it comes up ambiguous redirect
[19:48] <Scottie1> stealthx: Yes, it's the only way I can get into my computer.
[19:48] <stealthx> we can do a dick check from there
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> Hahaha
[19:49] <vatts> sriramoman1,  <vatts> Me burned 10.04, me tried, me workey
[19:49] <noons> LMAO
[19:49] <vatts> me burned ubuntu 10.04!
[19:49] <vatts> :D
[19:49] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: I'm proceeding in your way. I'm just also trying to do this. I need it to work on my internal hd.
[19:49] <vatts> then boot... normal ;P
[19:49] <vatts> bb!
[19:49] <FloodBot2> vatts: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:49] <hmw> Crash1hd: are you perhaps using .. in the path where a soft link is involved?
[19:49] <Crash1hd> hmw, no
[19:49] <jonathon> Hi. Having network issues. I switched to a new router and now am unable to recieve IP address via DHCP. I can use the old router and get IP address. Why won't my Ubuntu (10.04) desktop communicate with the new router? I even put a different NIC in, same result.
[19:49] <stealthx> scottie1:goto applications->accessories->teminal
[19:50] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: I'm at 60. My highest yet. Work your magic on my internal?
[19:50] <stealthx> then type fsck
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> jonathon: try a different port on the router if its wired.
[19:50] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: let this install on ext first!
[19:50] <Crash1hd> hmw, this is what is in the path -->  BACKUPDIR="/home/crash1hd/Documents/My Projects/My Webs/backups/mysql/Darkprince"
[19:50] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Alright, alright.
[19:51] <Scottie1> stealthx: Can we put this on hold for now?
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> jonathon: make sure the connected lights show up as normal
[19:51] <jonathon> Not sure what you mean, different port for dhclient?
[19:51] <stealthx> scottie1: sure...
[19:51] <drecute> i'm in initramfs prompt, what command can i run to restrat ubuntu installation from the usb
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> jonathon: a different port on the router to plug the cable into
[19:51] <Scottie1> stealthx: Sorry. I know it's an inconvenience. =/
[19:51] <alaing> is there a good tutorials to learn comand line?
[19:51] <iceroot> drecute: ctrl + alt + del  or init6
[19:51] <stealthx> scottie1: its ok... im a nice person
[19:51] <iceroot> !bash | alaing
[19:52] <imanc> hey guys - how come my keyboard stops working on a particular program, every now and again
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> alaing: just using it teaches much. Use it instead of the gui and you'll pick it up in no time :)
[19:52] <thedude42> imanc: because something else might steal focus
[19:52] <drecute> iceroot: that will reboot the system
[19:52] <imanc> sometimes I can't type an address inot the chrome location bar, and just now I find I can't type into a terminal window
[19:52] <Solid-Snake> i hate paperback books, my linux book is falling apart...
[19:52] <WillWork4Foo> Is this the right place to ask questions about Maverick Meerkat? Or is there a beta discussion channel for that?
[19:52] <thedude42> imanc: java apps do this to me a lot
[19:52] <imanc> thedude42: I try clicking back to the window
[19:52] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: after that ask someone in some forums, "how to find bad sectors in hard disk". we can then partition the hard disk such that the bad region of the hard disk is avoided in the partitioning:)
[19:52] <jonathon> Connected lights are on, I can connect my laptop using the same Cat5 cable that is plugged into the desktop. I plug it back into desktop and nothing. I've reset everything numerous times to clear any bad routes.
[19:52] <iceroot> drecute: and you asked about restart
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> imanc: when it stops, wait for it to start again then run: dmesg | tail ,it may give clues
[19:53] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: And that will make the install work on my internal?
[19:53] <drecute> iceroot: i just mounted the usb to /dev/sda1
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> jonathon: if you set static ip does it work? Do other systems get dhcp ok?
[19:53] <drecute> iceroot: do i need to reboot?
[19:53] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: yeah. coz we are avoiding those bad parts of the internal
[19:53] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: btw. how much % complete
[19:53] <iceroot> drecute: rbeoot for what? what you want to do?
[19:53] <alaing> I'm startign to see why peopel use putty over other vnc clients
[19:53] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: 79. Definitely loving you right now.
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> alaing: putty isn't a vnc client
[19:53] <drecute> i just mounted the usb where i have ubuntu
[19:54] <alaing> no but its a way to communicate with the server
[19:54] <Crash1hd> hmw, ok using ../ twice works :) thanks
[19:54] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: have a firm vision, it matters! www.thesecret.tv
[19:54] <drecute> i'm in the initramfs prompt because ubuntu installation couldn't progress
[19:54] <alaing> i like the vnc for the gui but if its quicker to just pass some commands then so be it
[19:54] <jonathon> Static does not work, the Mac on the same switch works fine. I thought it may be a speed issue since the Ubuntu desktop is gigabit and so is the switch on the back of the new router. I connected the two directly, but still nothing. Currently I am connected to the new router using the old router in
[19:54] <jeand> bonsoir
[19:54] <Solid-Snake> Any hardback linux book recomendations?
[19:55] <jonathon> Currently I am connected to the old router which is connected to the new router on a different subnet.
[19:55] <alaing> how do i stop gnome-desktop on server edition?
[19:55] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: 87
[19:55] <sriramoman1> jeand: bonsoir, monseiur
[19:55] <jvargas> hi, i will try to update my BIOS, how can I find which chipset am i Using?
[19:55] <alaing> can i turn it on when i need to?
[19:55] <rallias> Solid-Snake: Hardcover? I dunno. I would recommend Linux Bible 2010 edition, but thats paperback
[19:55] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: whats shown up on status msg, is it fetching packages or something?
[19:56] <aeon-ltd> alaing: you mean just gnome-desktop, or Xorg in general?
[19:56] <jeand> bonsoir srimoman
[19:56] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Language packs.
[19:56] <jonathon> Anyone hear of an Airlink 300n not working with Ubuntu?
[19:56] <Solid-Snake> rallias, i'll check it out anyway..
[19:56] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: that means the installation is practically done!
[19:56] <alaing> wtf is Xorg
[19:56] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: Yay!
[19:56] <rallias> jonathon: what os arch do you have? X86 or amd64?
[19:56] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: are u on a laptop?
[19:56] <jonathon> amd64
[19:56] <rallias> jonathon: nope
[19:56] <Scottie1> sriramoman1: What is super thrilled with you and has two thumbs? This girl! Yes, I'm on a laptop.
[19:57] <rallias> jonathon: try doing a full system upgrade
[19:57] <Tim2009> alaing: wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg
[19:57] <alaing> I wondered if i could boot to command line and only turn on the gui if and whe ni need to
[19:58] <rallias> alaing: thats called ubuntu server with the x-server and some liteweight windowing environment
[19:58] <ad_> bonsoir
[19:58] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: press f1 or f2 or whatever ur laptop recommends, and boot from the external usb drive after installation. and inform me if ur ext hd boots well! B-)
[19:58] <Scottie1> It will give me an option to boot to external? Or just usb?
[19:58] <alaing> yes i'm runnign server edtion
[19:59] <oracle> alaing, the server edition and you run gui? (:
[19:59] <alaing> i did apt-get gnome-desktop-environment
[19:59] <rallias> oracle: kinda defeats the purpose, don't ya know
[19:59] <oracle> i know
[19:59] <Scottie1> Off to test!
[19:59] <sriramoman1> Scottie1: my hp laptop gives me to boot from the ext hd i want. but dell and toshiba allows only usb.
[19:59] <drecute> unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[19:59] <drecute> i'm stuck
[19:59] <oracle> alaing, you might as well do the opposite
[19:59] <u456503_> thanks, I found the info, there is a channel: #ubuntu-kernel
[19:59] <drecute> what do i do?
[19:59] <u456503_> thanks, I found the info, there is a channel: #ubuntu-kernel
[19:59] <oracle> drecute, what are you running
[19:59] <NullProphecy> hmm. I am *totall* confused by the mess that is gdm in ubuntu#
[19:59] <rallias> sriamoman1: well plug it in via usb
[19:59] <drecute> ubuntu 10.04
[20:00] <alaing> oracle why?
[20:00] <drecute> from usb stick
[20:00] <jonathon> Looks like there is a kernel update waiting, installing it now. This is one of the strangest problems I have come across, it just will not talk to the Airlink, but everything else does.
[20:00] <ertpresso> !ask | drecute
[20:00] <oracle> drecute, how ya install it?
[20:00] <oracle> alaing, suityourself
[20:00] <rallias> jonathon: hardware that is your internet access has full access to the internet, so it can **** itself up.
[20:00] <drecute> oracle: from unetbootin
[20:01] <alaing> so how do i turn off the gui and just boot to commandline as before and the nonly turn it on whe ni need it
[20:01] <sriramoman1> where do i find the sourcecode of ubottu?
[20:01] <Solid-Snake> i love opensource.
[20:01] <sriramoman1> Solid-Snake: great!
[20:02] <Solid-Snake> On the other hand, my school HATES it.
[20:02] <sriramoman1> same here:(
[20:02] <dee> Hello
[20:02] <Solid-Snake> dee, yo
[20:03] <jonathon> I get that but I've tried two NICs in the same desktop both don't work. So that means it is likely a software issue in Ubuntu. But it works with the Linksys router so it is not broken completely.
[20:03] <jeand> bonsopir
[20:03] <dee> After a new installation of Xubuntu 10.04 I have no sound in PulseAudio. OSS works just fine in Audacious e.g. Any idea how I can get PulseAudio/Alsa to work?
[20:03] <jeand> qui parle en francais ici
[20:03] <sriramoman1> jeand: moi!
[20:03] <Solid-Snake> !fr | jeand
[20:04] <drecute> i have a ubuntu cd which i made into an iso and used unetbootin to copy it into a usb. when i inserted the usb and tried to boot from it, i get this message from the initramfs prompt: unable to find a medium containing a live filesystem
[20:04] <sriramoman1> yaaravudu inge tamil la pesuvangla!
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> drecute: did the iso md5 test as ok?
[20:04] <Solid-Snake> Je suis Le Roi Lion
[20:04] <jonathon> Thanks rallias, brb. Kernel update.
[20:05] <dee> drecute: and it's a Live-CD no Alternate-CD? Afaik does Unetbootin only works with Live-CDs.
[20:05] <Solid-Snake> i compile the linux kernel just for fun sometimes.
[20:05] <sriramoman1> drecute: i recommend u to use the usb-creator instead of unetbootin. i have never got unetbootin workin right!
[20:05] <dee> drecute: Further did you try usb-creator as alternative
[20:05]  * sriramoman1 shake hands with Solid-Snake
[20:05] <dee> ah, me is to slow.
[20:06] <drecute> dee: yea it is live
[20:06] <Solid-Snake> sriramoman1, lol, how'd you do that?
[20:06] <Pacane> Hi, I'm looking for an IRC/MSN Client that would run in SSH, does anyone know one? :)
[20:06] <drecute> dee: ok let me try
[20:06] <Tim2009> Latest Ubuntu 10.04 update broke my Oracle VirtualBox.  Get the "failed to open a session for the virtual machine" for all of my virtual machines. The Details box gives the message "Callee RC: NS_ERROR_INVALID_ARG (0x80070057)".  Have re-installed both from the repository and the main Oracle site with same results. Anyone already solve this?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> drecute: did you md5 test the resulting iso before transferring it?
[20:07] <Solid-Snake> bye all
[20:07] <dee> pacane: Hm, bitlbee maybe?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Tim2009: ask in #vbox too
[20:07] <drecute> ActionParsnip: no
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> drecute: don't you think you should have, make sure it was consistant??
[20:08] <kevdog> Pacane: I'm sure you can tunnel any connection, however there are other encryption protocols you can run with pidgin for example
[20:08] <drecute> ActionParsnip: i used mkisofs
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> drecute: doesn't matter, should still md5 test
[20:09] <Pacane> kevdog: Well the advantage I had with SSH, was that I connect to MSN or IRC, without installing any software
[20:09] <alaing> how do you login as root
[20:09] <Lollipop56> you don't
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> drecute: so you know the image you took is complete and consistant. Bad image will make a bad install experience
[20:09] <dee> alaing: normally you don't.
[20:09] <dee> use "sudo" if you need to.
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | alaing
[20:09] <kevdog> SSH however needs a key on receiving end.
[20:09] <alaing> i know but i need to delete a folder thats owned by root
[20:10] <Lollipop56> alaing, do gksudo nautilus
[20:10] <Muscovy> alaing: You shouldn't ever do a normal login. If you want, you can use sudo su -.
[20:10] <dee> alaing: so do "sudo rm ..."
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> alaing: then use: sudo rm -r folder
[20:10] <dee> but be carefull!
[20:10] <Lollipop56> then go the directory and delete it
[20:10] <aeon-ltd> alaing: sudo rm -r "path to folder"
[20:10] <alaing> thank you
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> alaing: or: gksudo nautilus ,and delete using a gui
[20:10] <alaing> much appreciate everyone
[20:10] <Lollipop56> like I said yeah
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> alaing: the sooner you forget root the better :)
[20:11] <dee> Noone any idea about my sound problem?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> !sound | dee
[20:12] <samba_> ciao
[20:12] <samba_> qualcuno di voi usa thuderbird ?
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> dee: also run: alsamixer ,in terminal and check levels are cranked and unmuted
[20:12] <samba_> all'ultimo aggiornamento non vedo più la posta!
[20:12] <dee> ubottu: Sound plays just fine with OSS, only PulseAudio does not seem to work. I restartet the soundserver two times already. alsamixer says the volume is up, the panel plugin too.
[20:12] <aeon-ltd> !it
[20:13] <dee> ActionParsnip: See my answer to the bot. ;) alsamixer says everything is okay.
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> dee: could try the ppa to get latest alsa
[20:13] <a1fa> dee: intel audio?
[20:13] <pepo> Enter text here...
[20:14] <pepo> !help
[20:14] <a1fa> i had to get the latest alsa drivers to get my intel audio card to work
[20:14] <hathadar> I just installed ubuntu desktop 10.04 on a laptop.  The onboard keyboard and mouse will work for a minute after boot and then go dead.  Also my wireless wont connect to my home network or display any SSIDs.
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Dee: https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/unstable
[20:14] <a1fa> and then it was spitting sounds out of integreated speaker
[20:14] <alaing> ok busy trying to install lampp. I download and extract and ran the script (like I've done many times). but mysql will not start any ideas?
[20:14] <pepo> !ban
[20:15] <pepo> !kick
[20:15] <pepo> !xandros
[20:15] <pepo> !dio
[20:15] <pepo> !god
[20:15] <alaing> how do i check which services are running
[20:15] <pepo> !ip
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> alaing: trt the boot options: i8024.reset and/or i8024.nomux=1 and/or irqpoll
[20:15] <dee> a1fa: Yes, it's an Intel card. I will think about the unstable driver ...
[20:15] <theixle> Hey guys, I've got to send in my defective g1. Where can I find the rc33 (or whatever it was) that came on the g1 so they don't try to claim I voided my warranty by rooting and installing custom mods.
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> alaing: ps -ef | less ,will show services
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> !ot | theixle
[20:16] <theixle> Oh crap, I joined the wrong channel!
[20:16] <theixle> sorry :p
[20:16] <theixle> Forgot I had ubuntu set as the default channel. Sorry.
[20:16] <pepo> !hitler
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Dee: its stable. No idea why the ppa is labelled so.
[20:17] <jeand> bonsoir
[20:17] <Dice-Man> salut jeand
[20:17] <Dice-Man> ici c'est le chan anglophone
[20:17] <alaing> ActionParsnip: boot options?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> alaing: those 3 boot options are great at fixing on board keyboard/mouse
[20:17] <Dice-Man> jeand, va sur #ubuntu-fr
[20:18] <Lollipop56> Dice-Man, parlez-vous français? :P
[20:18] <alaing> ActionParsnip: nothing wrong with my keyboard/mouse
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> alaing: apply them in /etc/default/grub and run: sudo update-grub ,to apply the change
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Guess my wires are mixed
[20:18] <alaing> lol
[20:18] <dee> ActionParsnip: okay, I will take a look. thx.
[20:18] <rapage> I'm on xterm I want to load the gui now please;..... i set the resolution I want
[20:19] <drecute> ActionParsnip: i'm not sure there's a version for windows
[20:19] <rapage> I had all gthes eproblem sow aht's the command to load x windwo
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> hathadar: see the boot options above for your kb + mouse issue
[20:19] <pepo> dammnnnnnnnnnn
[20:19] <rapage> I'm on xterm I want to load the gui now please;..... i set the resolution I want
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | drecute
[20:19] <pepo> how can i elude the ban?
[20:19] <drecute> and i couldn't get a mirror to download it for cygwin
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> drecute: tells you how in windows and even mac
[20:19] <alaing> why would mysql not start if i did sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start its not runnign as a service.
[20:19] <drecute> ActionParsnip: i mean usb-creator
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> drecute: there's an easy 1-2-3 creator on pendrivelinux
[20:20] <rapage> I'm on xterm I want to load the gui now please;..... i set the resolution I want
[20:20] <rapage> I'm on xterm I want to load the gui now please;..... i set the resolution I want
[20:20] <OerHeks> !repeat | rapage
[20:20] <Alex_the_Lion> hello
[20:20] <hathadar> ActionParsnip: I did not see the boot options you mentioned.  That may have been before I joined.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> drecute: its a universal app for most linuxes
[20:21] <Alex_the_Lion> help me with wifi issues
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> hathadar: i824.reset i824.nomux=1 irqpoll
[20:21] <pepo> ActionParsnip help me
[20:21] <Alex_the_Lion> problem: NetworkManager icon spin but not connect
[20:21] <mehok> can anyone help me i have a fresh install of ubuntu 10.x and there is no sound everything is plugged in and working as far as harware
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> hathadar: great at fixing lappy mouses and keyboards
[20:21] <hathadar> ActionParsnip: and what where do I put those/do with them?
[20:21] <drecute> ActionParsnip: so what do i do?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> pepo: sup
[20:21] <pepo> how c4n i elude this chat ban?
[20:21] <drecute> i can't find any for cygwin
[20:21] <OerHeks> pepo join #freenode
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> hathadar: in /etc/default/grub in the quotes with quiet splash, save the new file then run: sudo update-grub
[20:22] <hathadar> ok
[20:22] <hathadar> thanks
[20:22] <pepo> no i cAN'T ENTER
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> drecute: go to the pendrivelinux site and download the app
[20:22] <pepo> I MUST HACK THIS STUPID SERVER
[20:22] <rapage> I'm on xterm I want to load the gui to load applications with mouise
[20:22] <drecute> here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent?
[20:22] <pepo> ASD
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> pepo: i'd ask in #freenode for a revoke
[20:22] <pepo> OK
[20:22] <pepo> THNx
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> pepo: can you not see why you got banned
[20:23] <pepo> mm i don'tknow
[20:23] <Name141> Does anyone know everything to remove to turn Ubuntu in to only a file server?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> pepo: spamming the channel and using caps unnecessarily
[20:23] <Name141> Without Gnome, firefox, etc
[20:23] <pepo> this is the reason?
[20:23] <alaing> ok busy trying to install lampp. I download and extract and ran the script (like I've done many times). but mysql will not start . its not running as a service any ideas?any ideas?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> pepo: from what I can see from your attitude yes
[20:23] <aclien> Where can I get some help with some command line magic (piping with parallel)? Because that's not Ubuntu specific.
[20:24] <pepo> i try to connet with a proxy
[20:24] <mehok> anyone for my sound issue
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Name141: if you remove xorg it will strip a tonne of the OS out
[20:24] <pepo> but i didn't solve
[20:24] <ryen> mehok: What is your problem?
[20:24] <UbuntuNoob> hey im running lucid on an intel 855 chipset laptop and for some reason on occasion i will get a black screen and some text which will end with checking battery state... and nothing will happen pas that and i have to do a hard shutdown. how can i avoid this screen?
[20:25] <Name141> and he quits
[20:25] <pepo> visit squat forum search on google
[20:25] <euptc>  my Rhythmbox is not getting thumbnail images from at least Jamendo anyone here have the same problem?
[20:25] <pepo> rulezzzzzzzzzz
[20:25] <rapage> I'm on xterm I want to load the gui to load applications with mouise
[20:25] <hathadar> How do I open a write protected file as a super user for editing when using the file browser?
[20:25] <kevdog> ive got to upgrade from intrepid but I'm just too damn lazy
[20:25] <UbuntuNoob> also it usually happens when trying to watch a video. earlier i was trying to watch a video on the new ipod touch and it happened
[20:25] <OerHeks> hathadar, alt F2 gksudo nautilus
[20:26] <hathadar> thx
[20:26] <mehok> ryen i have everythign plugged in and there is no sound
[20:26] <ryen> mehok: Check the speaker icon in the bottom right of your screen.
[20:26] <ryen> mehok: Sometimes in your ouput, your card or device is not selected.
[20:26] <ryen> mehok: Output*
[20:27] <mehok> it is actually ryen
[20:28] <Lollipop56> any mods on here?
[20:28] <jonathon> Still unable to connect to an Airlink router. Can connect to a linksys just fine. Network setup is as such. Ubuntu PC -> Linksys Router (192.168.4.x) -> Airlink Router (192.168.3.x) -> Internet. If I connect to the switch on the Airlink I get no connection, no DHCP offers no communication if set to static. If I connect to the subnet on the Linksys router I connect just fine. I have added a NIC to the Ubuntu desktop and they bot
[20:28] <jonathon> h are unable to connect to the Airlink router.
[20:28] <ryen> mehok: When audio are you trying to play from?
[20:28] <mehok> ok now it works as if by magic
[20:28] <ryen> mehok: What* -- firefox, google chrome.
[20:28] <xbonesx> could someone verify how packages are listed in synaptic package manager with the ubuntu default repositories???
[20:28] <mehok> lool
[20:28] <xbonesx> how many*
[20:29] <Scottie1> Anyone know how to section off bad quadrants of my hd so I can install ubuntu directly?
[20:29] <kevdog> mods are everywhere
[20:29] <mgolisch> badblocks?
[20:30] <Lollipop56> I need to talk to a mod
[20:30] <neekers> ok, my disk capacity script and cron job is finished, thanks for your help! :)
[20:30] <kevdog> need to get "unbanned?
[20:30] <Lollipop56> no lol
[20:30] <kevdog> just pm one and wait
[20:30] <mgolisch> Scottie1: but i doubt the installer actualy supports that, youd have to mkfs manualy suplying the bad blocks to leave out, but if your hdd is screwed id srsly just get a new one
[20:30] <Lollipop56> I don't see any
[20:31] <Scottie1> mgolisch: that isn't an option
[20:31] <rapage> I'm on xterm I want to load the gui to load applications with mouise
[20:31] <Name141> maybe I should use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD ?
[20:31] <rapage> I'm on xterm I want to load the gui to load applications with mouise
[20:32] <rallias> is there any way to change a password of a different user on ubuntu?
[20:32] <rapage> is someone reading my postg
[20:32] <rapage> Ibeen trying to contact
[20:32] <mgolisch> Scottie1: if you cant get a new disk run badblocks and mkfs manualy then have the installer use that filesystem without reformating
[20:32] <Scottie1> mgolisch: I'm not sure what any of that means. Could you break it further?
[20:32] <hawodi> Am thinking of installing ubuntu on in a small office of 20 people. Is there a way to do centralized update?
[20:32] <jonathon> rallias: passwd
[20:34] <Ubunturific> os[Linux 2.6.32-25-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "lucid" 10.04] cpu[1 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.00GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.00GHz] mem[Physical: 994.3MB, 60.5% free] disk[Total: 107.2GB, 24.0% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller] sound[ICH4 - Intel ICH6]
[20:34] <Flannel> Ubunturific: Hi.  Welcome to #ubuntu.  Did you have a question we could help you with?
[20:35] <bobstro> hawodi:  you can point the 20 machines to a local repository cache -- use something like apt-cacher for this.
[20:35] <bobstro> hawodi:  if you want to control exactly what gets updated, that may take more work. it will speed up local installs on the 20 though.
[20:35] <bobstro> hawodi:  or updates, rather.
[20:37] <hathadar> I am still not able to use my onboard keyboard & touchpad on my new ubuntu install.  I have tried modifying the grub file boot options with "i824.reset i824.nomux=1 irqpoll" without success.
[20:38] <hawodi> bobstro: thanks so much for that info. Any info to links on how I can control what get updated? Thanks again
[20:39] <guntbert> Lollipop56: if you have an issue with #ubuntu to solve please join #ubuntu-ops to talk about it
[20:39] <fordfasterr> hi
[20:39] <mgolisch> Scottie1: you might also just try installing manualy and then run a fsck with the bad block option later to mark all bad sectors to be not used for allocation
[20:39] <mgolisch> Scottie1: aehm i mean doing a normal install and then afterwards mark the bad blocks with fsck
[20:39] <Lollipop56> guntbert, lemme pm u?
[20:39] <hawodi> bobstro: I just looked at the syanptic manager and I can't see anywhere to set the download to a local repo.
[20:39] <bobstro> hawodi:  i don't know how to control specific updates that get made available to the local machines, sorry. apt-cacher keeps any packages that get downloaded for other machines to use, so it speeds things up. i'm sure it *can* be done, but i don't know any specifics.
[20:40] <mgolisch> Scottie1: the default install doesnt install that much data it might go through without hitting any bad blocks
[20:40] <guntbert> Lollipop56: keep it in the channel please - I'm not an op
[20:40] <bobstro> hawodi:  you install apt-cacher on the 'server' machine. then you modify the apt config on the 20 machines to point to it as a proxy.
[20:40] <Lollipop56> ah k
[20:40] <Lollipop56> nvm then
[20:41] <avi_> Hey guys, so I've written this cool app in PyGTK and Glade. How can I package this up and distribute it?
[20:42] <bobstro> hawodi:  this looks like a good starting point - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server
[20:42] <ubuXubu> hello
[20:43] <bobstro> hawodi:  i used the 'Use as a proxy to APT' option with good success
[20:43] <tiger_rawrr> there was a free download manager i used before that was java powerd and sorted all my downlaoad accounts as well like rapidshare megaupload and fileplanet i forgot what it was called
[20:43] <tiger_rawrr> can anyone refresh my mind
[20:43] <Saturn2888> I need to downgrade my version of iptables. Can I just do apt-get remove iptables and then apt-get install iptables because somehow my version isn't the one in the repo?
[20:44] <Saturn2888> I can't use apt-get. I'm clueless on how to downgrade
[20:44] <jvargas> hi
[20:44] <jvargas> how can I see te log of a kernel panic?
[20:44] <munim> hi
[20:45] <jvargas> My screen is blocked and num/caps lock are blinking
[20:45] <hawodi> bobstro: Is the apt-config from the command line? I saw it in the commandline
[20:45] <nothingspecial> Saturn: hav3 you cahanged your sources list?
[20:45] <Saturn2888> nothingspecial: that's what someone else said. It's exactly the same as another machine which does not have this issue
[20:45] <blink> i am looking for an audio program which allows me to cut parts from music files ".mp3" based. i am looking for something like CoolEdit. btw, I've tried all programs on the Ubuntu Software center and none of them does the required job.
[20:45] <rapage> I'm on xterm I want to load the gui to load applications with mouise
[20:45] <bobstro> hawodi:  the server-side setup is all command line, yes.
[20:45] <hathadar> I am attempting to connect to my home wireless router.  All security is off.  The SSID shows as 100% strength yet I cannot connect.  ubuntu will attempt for a minute and then give up.  What can I try?
[20:45] <Splazer123> I'm new and having trouble. I'm trying to run Ubuntu Netbook and I've installed it but it says keeps saying it will boot up in 5 seconds and after five seconds it just restarts. Hel?
[20:46] <Splazer123> *help
[20:46] <nothingspecial> Saturn: so, have you or not?
[20:46] <hawodi> bobstro: I meant the client side
[20:46] <Splazer123> me?
[20:47] <drecute> when using the usb-creator at pendrivelinux, what is the preferred perssistence value
[20:47] <Saturn2888> nothingspecial: I had, but a long time ago. I modified it and the person who I was talking to said they switched to a different version of iptables, the one in Ubuntu instead of whatever they were using. The one he pointed me to was iptables_1.4.4-2ubuntu2_i386.deb
[20:47] <IrredAndroid> blink: audacity?
[20:47] <avi_> anyone know how to get Thunderbird to use OSD-Notify instead of it's usual cross-platform custom notification system?
[20:47] <Saturn2888> nothingspecial: oops, not the  _i386.deb
[20:47] <rapage> I'm on xterm I want to load the gui to load applications with mouise
[20:47] <bobstro> hawodi:  not sure if it's in the gui. let me look. i just edited the file, then copied it around via scp.
[20:48] <Saturn2888> q
[20:48] <hawodi> bobstro: thanks. Am reading the link you sent.
[20:48] <blink> IrredAndroid: I've tried it before and it didn't work. lemme install it again and give it a try. thanks.
[20:48] <rapage> I'm on xterm I want to load the gui to load applications with mouise
[20:48] <Saturn2888> nothingspecial: http://pastie.org/private/vaidxkymwzajsn7wc5wdxw
[20:49] <jonathon> hathadar: are you using a linux driver for your wireless card or ndiswrapper
[20:49] <bobstro> hawodi:  this looks helpful too - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=981085
[20:49] <picard1400> hey guys...
[20:49] <AlAmilar> rapage: what do you mean? You want to run gnome?
[20:49] <IrredAndroid> hey
[20:50] <picard1400> im trying to basically setup ssh putty into my ubuntu machine.. but when i log out of ssh the session is still goin?
[20:50] <hathadar> jonathon: this is a fresh install so whatever comes by default.
[20:50] <picard1400> so like i use putty. putty into ubuntu.. do my stuff. then log out of putty )close out..
[20:50] <picard1400> when i log back into putty my sesion comes back ? how do i set that up?
[20:50] <hathadar> picard1400: are you closing the putty window or are you typing in the exit command?
[20:50] <Cypeq> hi ^_^
[20:50] <picard1400> closing the putty window
[20:50] <picard1400> like getting out putty
[20:50] <diogo_79> hi
[20:50] <picard1400> completely
[20:51] <jonathon> hathadar: Try setting up a key on your router
[20:51] <Cypeq> should I install ubuntu 10 or 9 .., ?
[20:51] <picard1400> then later coming back to putty and when i reconnect to the server.. have that session stiill goin?
[20:51] <blink> IrredAndroid: how can i save applied changes? it only allows me to save project which is .aud based format.
[20:51] <nothingspecial> saturn: Nothing looks wrong with your sources. I got to go in a minute. http://pastie.org/private/vaidxkymwzajsn7wc5wdxw
[20:51] <cicina> oh, the background of new ubuntu is.... the developers must have a lot of THC !
[20:51] <cicina> :D
[20:51] <diogo_79> i have ubuntu 10.04 install how can i make this computer part of active directory domain?
[20:51] <Saturn2888> nothingspecial: I think I fixed it: apt-get install iptables=1.4.4-2ubuntu2. Didn't know that was possible. Thanks though :)
[20:51] <hathadar> jonathon: for troubleshooting purposes would'nt having an open network be the best option?
[20:51] <cicina> good bye ;)
[20:52] <jonathon> hathadar: Also delete the stored password before trying to reconnect. Applications -> Accessories -> Password and Encryption keys
[20:53] <OerHeks> !resetpanels > OerHeks
[20:53] <jonathon> hathadar: Correct, but having a key will show you they're communicating when you are prompted for a key, just something to try
[20:53] <nothingspecial> Saturn: glad you fixed it :)
[20:54] <Cypeq> i want to install ubuntu preferably Xubuntu version for c++ developing how much HDD space 4 system files do I need and which version should i install 10 or 9 or what ?
[20:54] <jonathon> hathadar: What kind of router, what kind of wireless card?
[20:54] <wrenny> can someone tell me the command to remove resolvconf package
[20:54] <hathadar> Linksys router.  Aetheros wireless device.
[20:54] <picard1400> anyone?
[20:54] <picard1400> is there something i need to seutp to do this?
[20:54] <hathadar> jonathon.  What kind of security feature am I looking for on my router?  WEP?
[20:55] <guntbert> picard1400: you want to keep your session even when you close putty?
[20:55] <picard1400> yes.. exactly
[20:55] <picard1400> so when i log back into putty it goes into that session (like when downloading large files .. eg... i dont want to keep putty open
[20:55] <guntbert> picard1400: screen is what you want
[20:55] <picard1400> "screen"
[20:55] <picard1400> ?
[20:55] <guntbert> !screen | picard1400
[20:55] <tiger_rawrr> anyone know a free download manager that handles premium logins for rapidshare and megaupload
[20:55] <picard1400> thanks
[20:56] <rapage> AlAmilar,
[20:56] <rapage> yes I want to load gnome
[20:56] <rawky> hi all, i noticed that sometimes if i run a program from terminal like gedit and i close the terminal it closes gedit too. As gedit isn't on the apps menu i don't know how else to run it. How can i and still close my terminal window please?
[20:56] <mgolisch> tiger_rawrr: jdownloader?
[20:56] <tiger_rawrr> really
[20:56] <jonathon> hathadar: I'd use WPA because it is more secure. Use WEP if your driver doesn't support WPA (e.g. I had a PCI card using ndiswrapper and WPA was not supported w/o supplicant. It was easier to get a better card.)
[20:56] <rapage> yes I want to load gnome
[20:56] <rapage> AlAmilar,
[20:57] <tiger_rawrr> jdownloader is the one i was looking for
[20:57] <tiger_rawrr> thanks
[20:57] <AlAmilar> rapage: so leave xterm, and in console type "gnome-session"
[20:57] <Cypeq> i want to install ubuntu preferably Xubuntu version for c++ developing how much HDD space 4 system files do I need and which version should i install 10 or 9 or what ?
[20:57] <Cypeq> is this question too hard ?
[20:57] <Cable|Dance> guys, i'm working on ubuntu on the X10, but i'm getting the grey screen with the black X cursor, what could it be? missing a driver or something?
[20:57] <guntbert> rawky: it should be in applications/accessories
[20:58] <rapage> AlAmilar,
[20:58] <rawky> you're right guntbert, my bad. do all apps install to the apps menu?
[20:58] <rapage> is xterm a terminal mode
[20:59] <jonathon> Cypeq: install the latest version, it will need 2GB disk space
[20:59] <AlAmilar> rapage: Ah true, sorry try typing it there
[20:59] <guntbert> rawky: many do, browse those menues :-)
[20:59] <Cypeq> jonathon: big thx ^_^
[20:59] <Cypeq> bai
[20:59] <wrenny> I get an error when trying ot connect to VPN in Ubuntu,  OpenVPN failed because of invalid VPN secrets, how can i solve this
[21:01] <sje46> hey, when I boot my computer, I get an error before the login screen.  (process: 341): GLib-WARNING** getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0).  Which is apparently a very generic error.  I got out of it by pressing escape, I think
[21:01] <sje46> but I have no idea how to start X
[21:02] <mgolisch> did you trash your passwd file?
[21:02] <sje46> also. when I go to /media, it has two things on it..Cruzer and U3, the two that are created whe I put my flash drive in.  But my flash drive isn't in
[21:02] <sje46> but it was in when I "shutdown -r" my computer
[21:03] <sje46> I can't go into the windows file system either
[21:03] <sje46> it says I don't have permission
[21:03] <Gefflon> hi.
[21:03] <sje46> but when I do "sudo cd" it says cd not found
[21:03] <Gefflon> i noted that updates are not working for some.
[21:03] <sje46> mgolisch: I did not touch any password files
[21:03] <calum_> Hi folks.  Does anyone know the specifics of enabling wireless radio on the Samsung N150 netbook?  Driver and everything seems fine, but it looks like I need to turn the radio on somehow...
[21:03] <Gefflon> when I start synaptic from the command line, I get libevt: some symbol not found
[21:03] <Gefflon> when I start apt-get, I get an immediate core dump
[21:03] <Gefflon> how do I get out of this situation?
[21:04] <sje46> so anyways...how do I start X, first of all?
[21:04] <mgolisch> startx?
[21:04] <Gefflon> ah, sorry, not libevt but libept
[21:04] <sje46> what is causing this weird pwuid error?
[21:04] <sje46> mgolisch: startx doesn't work
[21:05] <mgolisch> sje46: it cant resolve the the uid 0 to a username, id asume your /etc/passwd is broken or non existant or so
[21:05] <sje46> mgolisch: it says exec: 3: /usr/bin/X not found
[21:05] <sje46> mgolisch: but I can still got on
[21:05] <sje46> I signed in and gave my password
[21:06] <Cablekevin> Can anyone kick me off with the weird grey screen?
[21:07] <guntbert> !details | Cablekevin
[21:07] <mgolisch> sje46: hm something must be screwed up
[21:08] <sje46> mgolisch: yeah, haha, youc a say that
[21:08] <mgolisch> sje46: what did you do for that to happen?
[21:08] <mgolisch> sje46: did you uninstall something recently?
[21:08] <Tuplad> if I simply want to allow every computer on the network to access my shared folders (they're windows computers) what do I have to edit in smb.conf ? this thing is driving me insane.
[21:08] <sje46> mgolisch: I didn't uninstall anything to my knowledge
[21:09] <sje46> mgolisch: I was in screen, and I did "shutdown -r 1", and I had my flash drive in
[21:09] <Dempf> Total noob here. Anyone know why Compiz causes the Youtube slider bar to lag? Is there a workaround?
[21:10] <mgolisch> Dempf: dont use compiz? :)
[21:10] <Dempf> It's so shiny though!
[21:10] <mgolisch> sje46: if you reboot again is it still messed up?
[21:11] <sje46> mgolisch: I've rebooted a few times
[21:11] <Ubunturific> nautilus smb://"IP ADDRESS of Share Computer"
[21:12] <gimlep_p0> i add a repo to sources.list file. after that i write on terminal sudo aptitude update. but now the remastersys package is not on the synaptic . what sould i do now ?
[21:12] <Gefflon> how can I get a working apt-get again?
[21:12] <Gefflon> it just segfaults.
[21:12] <mgolisch> gimlep_p0: its probably not in the repo you added? did aptitude spit out any errors?
[21:12] <Cablekevin> Ok, i'm on a SE X10, and i'm trying to get UBUNTU working on that thing, all was going well, but with X11 now, i've got a black/white/grey screen with a BLACK X cursor, but i'm supposed to see a login screen or something.
[21:13] <xbonesx> i know this is for ubuntu but i just had to tell people that a group of hackers attacked RIAA supposedly on behalf of piratebay hahahahah
[21:14] <mgolisch> Gefflon: what did you do to cause that?
[21:14] <Cablekevin> xbonesx haha thats great!
[21:14] <gimlep_p0> mgolisch: no errors.
[21:14] <ironfoot495> Hi I'm having a problem with mysql and php coming back and saying Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: NO) in /var/www/public_html/register.php on line 59
[21:15] <ironfoot495> can I get some help with this?
[21:15] <madfox> xbonesx so? Its only major if they succeed, failed attacking attempts happen all the time
[21:15] <gimlep_p0> mgolisch: it is on the repo. i add it manually. it has to work on ubuntu 10.04 because it is the repo link for lucid. it writes on official site.
[21:15] <guntbert> !ot | xbonesx madfox Cablekevin
[21:15] <mgolisch> what site?
[21:15] <xbonesx> madfox: goto the RIAA website
[21:16] <xbonesx> no more talk in here
[21:16] <xbonesx> goto #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:16] <bobstro> xbonesx:  you started it!
[21:16] <guntbert> bobstro: drop it
[21:17] <jcrawford> hey guys is there anyway to make a script run when I connect to a VPN
[21:17] <Gefflon> mgolisch: nothing
[21:17] <jcrawford> using the Gnome VPN built in stuff?
[21:17] <BitEncrypt> how do i change the mouse setting to one click
[21:17] <Gefflon> I just noticed today that updates weren't working
[21:17] <xbonesx> bobstro: come to the #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:17] <Gefflon> and synaptics doesn't start because of a missing symbol in libept
[21:17] <Gefflon> and apt-get just dumps core without any useful backtrace
[21:17] <guntbert> !enter | Gefflon
[21:18] <JrGong> I have tried to det gdm to autologin and to boot directly into an XMBC session, it's borked, I get a black screen with mouse and when I ssh in I can kill xbmc or restart gdm and it just cycles, anyone know where the config files lie for gdm in 10.04?
[21:18] <Gefflon> I just noticed today that updates weren't working and synaptics doesn't start because of a missing symbol in libept and apt-get just dumps core without any useful backtrace
[21:18] <imanc> hey - anyway to solve this problem: [32995.471628] npviewer.bin[19668]: segfault at 0 ip 00000000f623b741 sp 00000000ff9b3f20 error 4 in libflashplayer.so[f5e9c000+b2c000]
[21:18] <guntbert> Gefflon: did you try with aptitude too?
[21:18] <lui_> ciao
[21:18] <lui_>  /msg [1]WaReZ-33 XDCC SEND #11
[21:19] <OerHeks> !ops : lui_
[21:19] <IdleOne> !warez | lui_
[21:19] <JrGong> haha
[21:19] <guntbert> lui: don't!!
[21:19] <Paulhunter> ciao
[21:19] <Paulhunter> !list
[21:19] <guntbert> !it | Paulhunter
[21:19] <mgolisch> Gefflon: you can try erasing the package index files in /var/apt/cache/ and then apt-get update again
[21:20] <mgolisch> Gefflon: /var/cache/apt/
[21:20] <BitEncrypt> how do i change the mouse to the one click setting
[21:21] <Gefflon> I haven't tried aptitude yet, no. but apt-get just dumps core immediately. I have removed *.bin from /var/cache/apt.
[21:21] <mgolisch> Gefflon: hm maybe some stuff it depends on is broken then
[21:21] <brishu> howdy folks, I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to find out what drivers you are using? I tried the 'Hardware Drivers" program, but it just told me taht "No proprietary drivers are being used."
[21:22] <Gefflon> mgolisch: what's the easiest way to reinstall apt-get?
[21:22] <IdleOne> BitEncrypt: System > Prefs > Mouse > Accesibilty > Simulate secondary click.
[21:22] <KipMacy> is there some way to open links in a browser from 'pterm' ? or... can someone tell me how to use the font pterm uses, in gnome-terminal ?
[21:22] <JrGong> brishu  lsmod tells you what kernel modules are loaded, not sure if that will help
[21:22] <picard1400> hey guys im having problems with screen i cant seem to when i exit out of it..
[21:23] <picard1400> like i exit out of putty. when log back in.. how do i get back into my screen session?
[21:23] <gimlep_p0> ubuntu writes me that remastersys package cannot beautenticated. but i will install the package anyway. what that means ?L
[21:23] <KipMacy> picard1400: screen -r
[21:23] <picard1400> i can do screen -r to see the sessions and hte #'s but how do i get ack into that sesion
[21:23] <KipMacy> picard1400: i just type "screen -rad"
[21:23] <Soraya> HI guys i use apt-get clean and now APTonCD have no packages fot me to create a updates cd
[21:23] <KipMacy> picard1400: screen -r 23409240239 , with 23409240239 being the number
[21:24] <brishu> thank you JrGong, it might help.
[21:24] <guntbert> picard1400: screen -r will do - but please read man screen
[21:24] <picard1400> gotchya (; thanks
[21:25] <picard1400> how do i scroll between screens?
[21:25] <picard1400> so like i have 2 open
[21:25] <picard1400> ?
[21:25] <Soraya> how can i restore apt so i can have all packages when using aptoncd
[21:25] <geirha> picard1400: ctrl+a+n and ctrl+a+p  or ctrl+a+<digit>
[21:25] <KipMacy> picard1400: read the man page, i just keep hitting control+a spacebar forever
[21:26] <Soraya> i use sudo apt-get clean and now i have no packages when using aptonsc
[21:26] <magoo> hi can someone help me with updating my graphics drivers?
[21:26] <Jude> can anyone help with wireless? ubuntu hibernated when battery ran out, now wlan cant be activated thru wireless switch
[21:26] <geirha> picard1400: You can also open a second terminal and run screen -x to have the screen attached to several terminals simultaniously
[21:27] <Soraya> magoo, is it a propietary driver
[21:27] <Soraya> nvidia
[21:27] <magoo> no its not
[21:27] <Dice-Man> Lollipop56, bonjour !
[21:27] <picard1400> but installing screen -x uising that with putty dont i need to setup something else
[21:27] <mgolisch> Gefflon: hm dunno maybe see what it depends on and download all those packages manualy and renstall using dpkg
[21:27] <picard1400> like i would not mind having DWM.. that would be sweet... but im not sure how to get X into putty
[21:27] <Soraya> ok share some info about card
[21:27] <magoo> its a intel on a laptop
[21:27] <Spudster> Is there any way to echo the output of a command to a file AND the terminal?  I know that #command > file.txt will append, and #command >> file.txt will create the new file, but how do I >> and output to the screen?
[21:27] <ertu> hey, how would i move my screen output using driver or software?
[21:27] <Soraya> ok
[21:28] <geirha> picard1400: Sounds like you want freenx instead
[21:28] <mgolisch> Spudster: yeah use the tee command echo foobar|tee /tmp/somefile
[21:28] <Soraya> and what seems to be wrong ?
[21:28] <Spudster> mgolisch: Thanks!  I'll give it a try
[21:28] <guntbert> picard1400: install an X server on your windows machine and tell putty to "forward X"
[21:28] <tiger_rawrr> how do i get jdownloader trough terminal
[21:28] <Soraya> i dindt need any driver on mi laptop for video
[21:28] <magoo> well im tryin to use various programs thats uses better graphics
[21:29] <Soraya> ok
[21:29] <picard1400> ok so the question becomes which is better.. that route.. or just doing multpile screen sessions?
[21:29] <magoo> like when i try to install imvu it starts off well and then takes a huge dump
[21:29] <Gefflon> mgolisch: can you please tell me how to find a particular package and how to reinstall that using dpkg?
[21:29] <Soraya> i see
[21:30] <mgolisch> Gefflon: id download the packages using packages.ubuntu.com
[21:30] <guntbert> picard1400: depends on what you want to do - try both and compare
[21:30] <stealthx> does pendrive linux actually work with ubuntu iso?
[21:30] <sizzlefire> tiger_rawrr you need to add the jdownloader PPA first
[21:30] <stealthx> cause it's failing to boot up on my pc
[21:30] <_newbie_> ant30, wenas :d
[21:30] <ikonia> stealthx: ask the guys who maintain pendrive linux
[21:30] <stealthx> k
[21:31] <Jude> Can anyone help, my wifi card will not turn on after hibernation?
[21:31] <Soraya> check ur compiz configurations and see if u can use some of the effects
[21:31] <NullProphecy> in my xorg.conf, I've changed my inputdevices to use /dev/input/mousex instead of /dev/input/mice, as I have a mouse and a touchscreen. Problem is, I get 'ghosting' whereby the pointer will alternate very quickly between where the touchscreen driver says the mouse is (correct), and X thinks the mouse is (when it autodetects the touchscreen). Any ideas?
[21:31] <magoo> ive tried goin to the intel site and running the update utility but that doesnt seem to work
[21:31] <mgolisch> Jude: try reloading the kernel module
[21:31] <Gefflon> mgolisch: how do I tell if i need amd64 or i386?
[21:31] <ant30> _newbie_ ?=
[21:31] <mgolisch> Jude: sudo modprobe -r modulename && sudo modprobe modulename
[21:31] <Soraya> because a windows driver wont work here
[21:31] <_newbie_> ant30, hablas españoL ??
[21:31] <magoo> i dont understand what u mean, im a noob to linux/ubuntu
[21:31] <mgolisch> Gefflon: did you install the 32 or 64bit version?
[21:31] <Gefflon> mgolisch: and how do I reinstall foo.deb using dpkg?
[21:32] <Jude> @mgolisch what would modulename be?
[21:32] <ikonia> Gefflon: what exactly do you want to install
[21:32] <ikonia> Gefflon: please be exact
[21:32] <Gefflon> mgolisch: sorry, don't remember, too long ago. is there something in etc that tells me?
[21:32] <sizzlefire> I am attempting to setup a VPN with pptpd, and I am able to connect to it and use internal resources on my network but not access the internet through it, can anyone tell me what setting I might need to change?
[21:32] <imanc> hey - anyway to solve this problem: [32995.471628] npviewer.bin[19668]: segfault at 0 ip 00000000f623b741 sp 00000000ff9b3f20 error 4 in libflashplayer.so[f5e9c000+b2c000]
[21:32] <Gefflon> mgolisch: let's say I download http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.7.25.3ubuntu7_amd64.deb, how do I reinstall it using dpkg?
[21:32] <mgolisch> Gefflon: if you dont know try file $(which bash) or so
[21:32] <mgolisch> Gefflon: it should tell if its a 64bit or 32bit binary
[21:32] <magoo> i have no idea what to do
[21:32] <Soraya> did u run update manager
[21:33] <magoo> no
[21:33] <jcrawford> hmm anyone have experience with this: You can have scripts run automatically as a connection (e.g. VPN) is brought up and down by placing them in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d and /etc/ppp/ip-down.d
[21:33] <jcrawford> i put name-up and name-down scripts in those directories and made them executable but they do not seem to run
[21:33] <Gefflon> mgolisch: file(1): good idea.
[21:33] <magoo> do i need to?
[21:33] <mgolisch> Jude: no idea i dont know what your wlan card is
[21:33] <ikonia> Gefflon: please be exact, a.) what do you want to install b.) why are you not using the ubuntu tools
[21:33] <jcrawford> very basic just setting then unsetting env vars
[21:33] <guntbert> !who | magoo
[21:33] <Soraya> lets star there
[21:33] <Name141> is there a channel specific for the Ubuntu Min disk ?
[21:33] <Gefflon> ikonia: because apt-get just coredumps.
[21:33] <guntbert> Name141: no
[21:33] <Jude> mgolisch: would it be the device name? it is listed as bcmwl5 in ndiswrapper
[21:33] <Gefflon> ikonia: no useful backtrace. I already deleted the *.bin in the cache dir
[21:33] <mgolisch> ikonia: he wants to reinstall apt
[21:33] <ikonia> Gefflon: ok - that's a serious issue, using dpkg isn't th eanswer
[21:33] <picard1400> ok i am still having problem switching between X.. i have two screens 1376 and 1308... i want to quickly switch between them.. i tried crtl + a + n nothing happend?
[21:34] <picard1400> not X between screens
[21:34] <Gefflon> ikonia: what is the answer?
[21:34] <mgolisch> Jude: oh so the kernelmodule is ndiswrapper
[21:34] <wolter> i can't recieve files over bluetooth :S
[21:34] <wolter> i can't recieve files over bluetooth :S
[21:34] <guntbert> Gefflon: did you try aptitude in the meantime?
[21:34] <Soraya> magoo, did u just install ubuntu ?
[21:34] <ikonia> Gefflon: resolve the issue, has this ever worked, or did it stop working
[21:34] <guntbert> !u | Soraya
[21:34] <magoo> yes i did (soraya)
[21:35] <FusionX> is anyone here good with display related problems, if so can u please help me with -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577035 .
[21:35] <Jude> mgolisch: how would i reboot ndiswrapper?
[21:35] <jcrawford> magoo, just start typing the persons name and hit the "tab" key, it will auto complete, generally names come first when you are addressing someone :)
[21:35] <Soraya> ok,so update buddy
[21:35] <Gefflon> ikonia: suddeny stopped working. the update manager icon just went to a red stop sign, and neither apt-get nor synaptics start. synaptics has missing symbols in libept, apt-get just coredumps.
[21:35] <guntbert> !here | FusionX
[21:36] <mgolisch> Jude: just try sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper and see if your wlan lives again
[21:36] <ikonia> Gefflon: ok - so what's changed
[21:36] <Soraya> they most be about 230 updates if u just fresh install it
[21:36] <Jude> mgolisch: ok thx in advance, will switch to ubuntu now and give it a try
[21:37] <magoo> ok brb
[21:37] <NullProphecy> does ubuntu 10.04 actually pay any attention to /etc/X11/xorg.conf??
[21:37] <Soraya> is there a way to refresh apt packages list so i can use aptoncd
[21:37] <Soraya> i have nothing when using aptoncd because i use sudo apt-get clean
[21:38] <mgolisch> Gefflon: does the dpkg lofile in /var/log show anything? maybe it tells what went wrong
[21:38] <Soraya> and now no packages display,i want to refresh package database
[21:38] <picard1400> anyone?
[21:38] <jcrawford> anyone have any idea?
[21:38] <mgolisch> Soraya: apt-get update
[21:39] <mgolisch> Soraya: or what do you mean? ah you want to download all the debs again?
[21:39] <AHemlocksLie> I'm guessing I shouldn't ask about Kubuntu in this channel? #kubuntu's all afk, apparently
[21:39] <nordin> hello guys, I installed ubuntu 7.10 on an old pentium III laptop. But I removed Compiz, cause it made my system run ver very slow. Now I have the problem my windows are without the windows manager (I don't have minimize/maximize button etc...). How can I get it back without Compiz installed?
[21:39] <Gefflon> guntbert: aptitude: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libept.so.0: undefined symbol: _ZN16pkgAcquireStatus7FetchedEmm
[21:39] <jrib> !7.10 | nordin
[21:39] <magoo> so do u think that'll fix my problem?
[21:39] <CamFox_> AHemlocksLie: Just try it :-)
[21:39] <Soraya> mgolisch, nothing using apt-get update
[21:40] <mgolisch> Soraya: then what you want is not updating the package database
[21:40] <Gefflon> ikonia: i never ran anything but the automatic updates; sometimes installed additional packages; I didn't track what changed with them.
[21:40] <nordin> hello guys, I installed ubuntu on an old pentium III laptop. But I removed Compiz, cause it made my system run ver very slow. Now I have the problem my windows are without the windows manager (I don't have minimize/maximize button etc...). How can I get it back without Compiz installed?
[21:40] <aeon-ltd> nordin: alt-f2, then type "metacity --replace" then enter
[21:40] <aeon-ltd> nordin: btw you should really update
[21:40] <guntbert> Gefflon: sorry then, it was worth a try, you must have messed up your system :-(
[21:40] <nordin> aeon-ltd, thnx my friend.
[21:40] <aeon-ltd> nordin: it worked?
[21:40] <nordin> aeon-ltd, I'm working on it.
[21:40] <Soraya> mgolisch, what do i need then ?
[21:41] <ikonia> Gefflon: any external repos ?
[21:41] <Soraya> restar computer will fix it ?
[21:41] <AHemlocksLie> okay, well, I'm trying to get Kubuntu installed on my Dell Inspiron 1100 laptop. I put Kubuntu 10.4 on my flash drive, and everything works just fine during boot until it finishes loading. When it's loading, the everything shows up great, all the icons individually show up, the hard drive, tools, desktop-looking icon, then the K (I assume for KDE). Once that's done, though, the mouse stays, but the rest of the screen goes black. I can still mo
[21:41] <Gefflon> mgolisch: the file is 0 bytes. btw, I just noted that "ll" also core dumps, "ls -l" works. !?
[21:41] <mgolisch> Soraya: apt-get install -d packagename , -d causes apt to just download the package
[21:41] <Gefflon> guntbert: well, not actively, but I agree that it's messed up :)
[21:42] <Soraya> what i want is to kind of save updates so far using APTonCD
[21:42] <NOMADICUS> What is the terminal command in gnome to hide and the gnome panel?
[21:42] <Gefflon> ikonia: /etc/apt/sources.list only contains ubuntu servers.
[21:42] <AHemlocksLie> over to no avail. If I hit ctrl+alt+Del, the shutdown/reboot/logoff screen comes up just fine, but the rest is still black. When I hit shutdown, a box came up asking about quitting about 5 things, all something like "TTY: login", so the video still works to a degree, just not entirely. Anyone have any idea what could be the issue?
[21:42] <ikonia> Gefflon: unstable/proposed repos ?
[21:43] <nordin> aeon-ltd, it worked from the terminal, can I get it permanently. I'll update it soon.
[21:43] <Gefflon> ikonia: no
[21:43] <grishnav> hi
[21:43] <aeon-ltd> nordin: it should be set permanently anyways
[21:43] <Gefflon> perhaps we can come back to my original question: dpkg still seems to work, how can I reinstall apt?
[21:43] <guntbert> Gefflon: in all honesty: I never saw a system doing that to itself - there was always the human factor...  - so please try to remember what happened/what you did
[21:43] <ikonia> Gefflon: what does the stack trace suggest is the issue ?
[21:43] <nordin> aeon-ltd, ok, I see it :)
[21:43] <ikonia> Gefflon: download apt from the web repos', do dpkg -i $filename
[21:44] <nordin> aeon-ltd, thank you very much my friend
[21:44] <Gefflon> ikonia: (gdb) bt
[21:44] <Gefflon> #0  0x0011a562 in ?? () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
[21:44] <Gefflon> #1  0x001131d1 in ?? () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
[21:44] <Gefflon> #2  0x00124207 in ?? () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
[21:44] <Gefflon> #3  0x00110c6d in ?? () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
[21:44] <FloodBot2> Gefflon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:44] <Gefflon> #4  0x00110857 in ?? () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
[21:44] <aeon-ltd> nordin: also if your looking at squeezing the most out of a pentium 3, i reccommend a ligher window manager like openbox
[21:44] <ceej> Is there a way to make your ubuntu install into an iso to install onto other machines ?
[21:44] <aeon-ltd> nordin: your welcome
[21:44] <hosoka> Hello all, when watching video via YouTube and suddenly choose for wide screen, the movie freezes and the sound continuous as normal.
[21:44] <jrib> ceej: remastersys?
[21:44] <jcrawford> hmm anyone have experience with this: You can have scripts run automatically as a connection (e.g. VPN) is brought up and down by placing them in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d and /etc/ppp/ip-down.d
[21:44] <hosoka> I am using Totemplayer by default.
[21:44] <jcrawford> i put name-up and name-down scripts in those directories and made them executable but they do not seem to run
[21:45] <jcrawford> very basic just setting then unsetting env vars
[21:45] <ceej> jrib: thanks, I'll check it out
[21:45] <jcrawford> but i need to get them to run on connection so that i can set proxy stuff
[21:45] <nordin> I really appreciate your help aeon-ltd. I like the gnome of ubuntu 7.10
[21:45] <guntbert> !pastebin | Gefflon
[21:45] <aeon-ltd> nordin: ok, to each his/her own i guess, and i respect that
[21:46] <sassieston> hi does somebody know a thumbnail viewer that only loads the thumbnails of the pictures that are onscreen?
[21:46] <CamFox_> AHemlocksLie: Do you know if the laptop has the latest BIOS?
[21:47] <AHemlocksLie> I haven't the faintest clue, would that matter a great deal?
[21:47] <hosoka> does anyone use Totemplayer on YouTube ?
[21:47] <wrenny> I get an error when trying ot connect to VPN in Ubuntu,  OpenVPN failed because of invalid VPN secrets, how can i solve this
[21:47] <aeon-ltd> hosoka: no but whats wrong with flash?
[21:47] <guntbert> !anyone | hosoka
[21:47] <CamFox_> AHemlocksLie: Page here mentions it: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell
[21:47] <CamFox_> AHemlocksLie: bit I'm guessing a bit
[21:47] <hosoka> I am using the latest flash and with Totem the video freezes choosing for wide screen while the sound keeps on playing.
[21:48] <AHemlocksLie> camfox_ okay, I'll try that as soon as it wants to load... I'm in Windows using my 3g phone as a tether, but it absolutely refuses to load anything for some reason, but that's another matter
[21:49] <AHemlocksLie> which raises the question of how IRC is working, but count your blessings, I guess
[21:49] <r007> !ubuntu server
[21:49] <Cwatson09> I have a question about Installing Ubuntu on my desktop system?
[21:49] <Gefflon> ikonia: after reinstalling apt and gsynaptics, apt-get and synaptisc now work again. thanks for the help!
[21:49] <NOMADICUS> Whst?
[21:50] <aeon-ltd> !ask | Cwatson09
[21:50] <r007> !server
[21:50] <Lollipop56> check my pm Cwatson09
[21:50] <Gefflon> guntbert: the only users on the system only know how to agree to the automatic update requests and install packages, I'm the backup admin...
[21:50] <r007> anybody know the server channel?
[21:51] <r007> oops nvm
[21:51] <jcrawford> r007, why not try #ubuntu-server
[21:51] <picard1400> hey guys..
[21:51] <picard1400> so anything i can do?
[21:51] <picard1400> i cannot swtich between screens
[21:51] <wii4dida> I want share with you a free sketchpad program that I have written http://code.google.com/p/ardesia/; I hope that it will included in ubuntu
[21:51] <guntbert> Gefflon: strange -- but in the meantime you got it solved as I saw .-)
[21:51] <NOMADICUS> I'm not sure.
[21:51] <jrib> !ot | wii4dida
[21:52] <hosoka> does anyone has the same fault that when playing video halfway with Totem going for wide screen the movie stops but sounds goes further
[21:52] <guntbert> NOMADICUS: wrong window?
[21:52] <Gefflon> guntbert: yes, but the automatic update wants to update apt, so let's see what happens ;)
[21:52] <mmm4m5m> Hi. What is "ls" column ﻿"size" for directories? I did copy one directory tree and I see differences there.
[21:52] <jcrawford> someone has to know how to get these to work :(
[21:52] <guntbert> r007: it #ubuntu-server :-)
[21:52] <mgolisch> hosoka: no idea, i allways use mplayer
[21:53] <wii4dida> sorry, bye
[21:53] <NOMADICUS> guntbert: Oops. Wonder how come things were wierd.
[21:53] <Guest89389> hi, what would be a good size for / partition (user documents will not be going there)?
[21:53] <mgolisch> Guest89389: 10 -20gb?
[21:53] <hosoka> mgolisch: does mplayer lets you watch the movie in the middle when then sets for the full screen ? It does not freeze ?
[21:53] <Guest89389> ok thanks
[21:54] <CamFox_> Guest89389: It depends, but go bigger rather than smaller. HD storage is pretty cheap. 20GB min I would say
[21:54] <Guest89389> 20 approaches windows :), but yeah, plenty of disk space
[21:55] <randomOfAmber> if I use hibernate, would it be fine to put my laptop in it's case + my backpack and not worry about overheating?
[21:55] <incandenza> randomOfAmber: yes, hibernate is the same as it being turned off
[21:55] <randomOfAmber> incandenza: thanks!
[21:56] <guntbert> randomOfAmber: yes, but mind you it still uses/needs power so you battery must provide it
[21:56] <randomOfAmber> with hibernate?
[21:56] <mgolisch> it doesnt
[21:56] <mgolisch> its tuned off
[21:56] <guntbert> randomOfAmber: sorry, I misread
[21:56] <mgolisch> hibernate != standby
[21:56] <randomOfAmber> I want it to save the session, but not overheat when I put it in my laptop
[21:56] <jcrawford> is anyone even seeing my messages? never takes this long without someone acknowledging the questions :)
[21:56] <randomOfAmber> backpack**
[21:56] <Guest89389> hibernate it is then
[21:56] <guntbert> jconlon: we hear you
[21:56] <aeon-ltd> !patience | jcrawford
[21:57] <randomOfAmber> ok cool, thanks all
[21:57] <incandenza> well, it wouldn't hibernate in standby/suspend, either.  but definitely not in hibernate
[21:57] <incandenza> er, I mean, it wouldn't overheat
[21:57] <aeon-ltd> guntbert: lawl tab fail
[21:57] <guntbert> aeon-ltd: :)
[21:57] <jcrawford> aeon-ltd, i found a how-to but it does not seem to run the scripts :(
[21:57] <hosoka> Wanna stick with the totemplayer, but the movies always freezes when during the movie choosing for the fullscreen.
[21:57] <Guest89389> i think a bit of heat might be good for mine - too cold outside
[21:57] <mmm4m5m> Guest89389: my used space for / is 2.5GB and for /home is 2.5GB (most personal things are not inside home)
[21:57] <aeon-ltd> jcrawford: please explain it all to the channelw ith the right context
[21:58] <Guest89389> mmm4m5m: wow what a range from 2.5 to 20
[21:58] <Guest89389> i'll just give it 10
[21:58] <mmm4m5m> ﻿Guest89389: not partition(s) size, I told - used size
[21:58] <mmm4m5m> ﻿Guest89389: used space
[21:58] <incandenza> if you do a big upgrade, like from one major release to another, it can use a few extra gigs quickly
[21:58] <CamFox_> Guest89389: I just checked and my install is 5GB total, so my 20GB estimate is probably a little high
[21:58] <incandenza> and if you run out of space it will be a pain
[21:59] <r007> anyone know if its possible to mount a dynamic .vdi image?
[21:59] <histo> Guest89389: 10gb is plenty for root.  If not you can expand it later.
[21:59] <xbonesx> is their a program equivalent to the macs isight video editing software???
[21:59] <Guest89389> incandenza: how many more GB would be used during an upgrade?
[21:59] <Guest89389> histo: that would, indeed be a pain
[21:59] <histo> incandenza: I would ask the vmware or virutalbox channel but you should be able to mount it with loopback
[22:00] <xbonesx> would someone tell me how many packages they have listed in synaptic package manager PLEASE
[22:00] <histo> Guest89389: nto really that hard.
[22:00] <jcrawford> i wish to have a script run when a vpn connection is made and when it is dropped.  I have put the scripts name-up and name-down in the respective directories /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ and /etc/ppp/ip-down.d/ but they do not seem to work, in the up script I just have export http_proxy="something" and in the down script i have export http_proxy=""
[22:00] <reggi> 0
[22:00] <histo> Guest89389: all your personal settings and files are in /home
[22:00] <histo> Guest89389: / is just for your programs.
[22:00] <jcrawford> after I connect I run export | grep _proxy but do not see the env vars change
[22:00] <IdleOne> Guest12849: with a 10GB / you will be more then fine unless you install everything under the sun.
[22:00] <jcrawford> I have also set the scripts to be +x
[22:00] <Guest89389> xbonesx: 30230
[22:01] <jcrawford> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   76 2010-09-19 16:32 name-vpn
[22:01] <xbonesx> fresh install amount?
[22:01] <Guest89389> IdleOne: ok good. thanks all.
[22:01] <xbonesx> Guest89389: fresh install amount?
[22:01] <jcrawford> any thoughts?
[22:01] <Guest89389> xbonesx: live cd
[22:01] <xbonesx> sweet then my config file for it is good
[22:02] <r007> histo Ill try loopback ty
[22:02] <LucidGuy> Apache2.2 quesiton:  I have AuthType basic enabled with a directory/site that is secured via mod_ssl.  Is the login credentials secure also? or just the content?
[22:02] <mgolisch> jcrawford: how is that going to do anything? export works only for childprocesses of that shell..
[22:02] <jcrawford> mgolisch, ok so then how can i make it work globally?
[22:02] <xbonesx> anyone know of a video editing software that has almost same effects as the macpro editing software????
[22:02] <jcrawford> the script is run by Gnome so it should not be for a specific shell'
[22:03] <r007> lucidguy basic auth is not secure
[22:03] <LucidGuy> r007, even if its used in a site that is ssl secure?
[22:03] <xbonesx> jcrawford: you have to right a script that would respond to the connect and disconnect atributes
[22:03] <dante_> buonasera
[22:04] <r007> lucidguy its still sent plain text as it will go over http not https
[22:04] <Varazir> Is there a fix so you can PXE boot 10.04.1 LTS ?
[22:04] <xbonesx> jcrawford: find the file that is executed from having a connectino be made and add in a command line to execute the script
[22:04] <IdleOne> !it | dante_
[22:04] <myadmin> testing
[22:04] <dante_> mi scrivete il canale per il supporto ad ubuntu? perfavore!
[22:04] <diffred> Hi! Ubuntu 9.04 (cannot update), trying to open an rm file (video) with totem. The image works fine but there's no sound. The error:  http://pastebin.com/aFzZYDpJ
[22:04] <LucidGuy> r007, how can I secure that?
[22:04] <Ana_west> hi, i have problem to use webcam in Ubuntu MSN
[22:05] <lazyPower> Having an interesting qualm on Ubuntu 10.04 x64, the mouse will randomly stop responding, and shortly there after, the keyboard fails too. restarting X seems to work, when i can get that far before the keyboard fails. Its been verified as non hardware, as i pulled the hardware and tested it on a Fedora machine. after six hours it was still working like a charm, yet no go on ubuntu. it just randomly fails after an hour or so, sometimes a
[22:05] <mgolisch> jcrawford: how do you start the vpn? and what programs do you want those settings to use?
[22:05] <r007> lucidguy you cant secure basic auth you would need to use an authentication method over https
[22:05] <IdleOne> dante_: scrivi /join #ubuntu-it
[22:05] <hosoka> Ana_west: try to use amsn
[22:05] <ertu> hey, how do i move my screen output using driver or software?
[22:05] <jcrawford> i am using Network Manager to start the script
[22:06] <lazyPower> nothing helpful in my logs, no ideas coming from google, no screensaver action, or power management interruptions.
[22:06] <LucidGuy> r007, not even authType Digest?
[22:06] <xbonesx> jcrawford: i really don't know i was just using what sounded like common sense to me... :S
[22:06] <jcrawford> according to the docs it has a dispacther that executes the scripts under /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ and ip-down.d/
[22:06] <jcrawford> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[22:06] <jcrawford> states it on that page
[22:07] <jcrawford> but maybe i am doing something wrong by using export maybe i should use another method of setting the env var?
[22:07] <LucidGuy> r007, so I would have to code some kind of login page.
[22:08] <Wernis> How can i change the picture in my log in screen ?
[22:08] <euptc> bye
[22:08] <lazyPower> Wernis: in the About Me option under system->preferences
[22:08] <Gefflon> guntbert: ok, updated, rebooted, still works
[22:08] <Varazir> Hmm I get the error shown under Gotchas  ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto ) , is there a way around that ?
[22:08] <jcrawford> mgolisch, any ideas?
[22:09] <mgolisch> jcrawford: is this for cmdline programs only you start manualy from a terminal?
[22:09] <Wernis> lazyPower no not the little avatar i meant the splash thing, the background and all ? the BiiiG picture ?:)
[22:09] <mgolisch> jcrawford: you could have it write that to a file you source in your .bashrc then
[22:09] <mgolisch> jcrawford: it still wont change the env of any program started using the menu
[22:09] <Wernis> lazyPower but thanks haha im actually changing my avatar right now :D
[22:09] <xbonesx> !seen Guest89389
[22:09] <KindOne> xbonesx, Guest89389 is still in #ubuntu.
[22:09] <Quaxir> Does anyone have an idea what to do when Kubuntu won't let me into login screen, it jamms to that "Kubuntu" and few circles below it :S
[22:10] <serapophis> Wernis, ubuntu tweak has an option for that
[22:10] <xbonesx> Guest89389: whats the two repositories in this pic on your live cd
[22:10] <jcrawford> hmmm yea you're right because I also have the proxy set in the Network Proxy GUI, though I am sure I could have the script change that value in a file right?
[22:10] <r007> lucidguy yep you would unless somebody else knows of any other option
[22:10] <jcrawford> basically I want the proxies to be used when on VPN but not when off VPN because when off the VPN the proxies do not resolve
[22:11] <Wernis> serapophis :) thanks problem solved :P it is in ubuntu tweak !
[22:11] <jcrawford> and it screws my internet up when I am not on the VPN because it is trying to connect through the unreachable proxy
[22:11] <xbonesx> Guest89389: http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/6531/94593475.png
[22:11] <LucidGuy> r007, sounds like a hell of allot more work.
[22:12] <Guest89389> xbonesx: hold on
[22:12] <xbonesx> Guest89389: ok TY
[22:12] <Exxon> hi
[22:12] <akash> i have loaded vlc but sound is coming but not picture
[22:12] <Guest89389> xbonesx: oh, i "kinda of" forgot this was a mint cd..
[22:13] <xbonesx> Guest89389: whats that mean?
[22:13] <Guest89389> it has many entries there
[22:13] <xbonesx> oh...
[22:13] <Guest89389> mint is another distribution based on ubuntu
[22:13] <xbonesx> I just need to know the ones that are present after a normal ubuntu 10.04 desktop version install....
[22:13] <Guest89389> sorry
[22:13] <NOMADICUS> I am trying to make a hotkey to hide and unhide my pannels using keyboard shortcuts, and/or making a script and an icon for the desktop.  I am having difficulty finding the command that will manipulate the gnome-panel. Any suggestions?
[22:14] <billur> hi!
[22:14] <mgolisch> jcrawford: yeah if this is for apps started from a terminal only it should be failry easy, just source some file in your .bashrc and have the vpn script write that export foo=bar stuff in that file, when you open a new terminal after that it should have that env var
[22:14] <billur> http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/ubuntu.html here writes that for lucid we have to write deb http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/repository karmic/ but i think the last workd has to be lucid ? right ?
[22:14] <Guest89389> is it normal for a newly formated ext4 partition show some space as in used in gparted?
[22:15] <jcrawford> mgolisch, any idea where the Network Proxy GUI writes those values as I will have to have the script change that as well, will probably use Python for this :)
[22:15] <Sia--> billur, doesn't matter
[22:15] <billur> Sia--: but i use it now with karmic. and my system is craz now :(
[22:15] <mgolisch> jcrawford: it writes some stuff in gconf
[22:15] <r007> lucidguy on doing a bit of reading it appears the https hanshake should happen before the basic authentication are passed so I suppose I was wrong :D
[22:15] <Heretic121> I need some help with my SiS integrated graphics card. I'm using Ubuntu 9.10
[22:16] <Heretic121> can anyone help out?
[22:16] <Heretic121> Hey wbc
[22:16] <wbc> Heretic121: what do you need with_
[22:16] <wbc> ?
[22:16] <dzeremis> Hello my friends. I'm Džeremis (Lithuanian), Jeremy in English. (I'm from one of these Lithuanian immigrant descendant households.)
[22:16] <Sia--> billur, maybe the package is crap!?
[22:16] <SolarisBoy> id like upgrame vim to 7.3 can someone lend some advice on the safest procedure?
[22:16] <Heretic121> If I don't load X into safe mode
[22:16] <wbc> its goes apeshit?
[22:16] <Heretic121> if I do X apparently can't find my display
[22:16] <SolarisBoy> s/upgrame/upgrade/
[22:17] <Heretic121> yeah, that'd be an apt description
[22:17] <dzeremis> I have a question. I installed iTunes for Ubuntu using Wine and a tutorial online. It runs with a script but I want to create a shortcut. For the life of me, I cannot figure out how to do this, as in the terminal, the path to the file exists, and in the GUI, it does not.
[22:17] <sfw> Does anyone know how does kernel module loading in Ubuntu work? Is it any different from Gentoo? This is NOT a troll question or something. For example I try to switch cpu into ondemand mode and it explicitly requires I modprobe "powernow-k8". How does Ubuntu handle this?
[22:17] <billur> Sia--: before 5 days ago i use it. it was working but this time another computer it is not working..
[22:17] <dzeremis> Can you help? Theoretically, this should be a piece of cake.
[22:17] <wbc> so, what error msg do you get Heretic121 ?
[22:17] <Sia--> dzeremis, sveikas use #ubuntu-lt
[22:17] <billur> Sia--: i have to do my system as a live cd...
[22:17] <Heretic121> I'll go dig it up, hang on
[22:17] <r007> lucidguy you could always sniff the packet to make sure
[22:18] <dzeremis> Sveikas, Sia!
[22:18] <Sia--> billur, why not usb live system ius much better?!
[22:18] <wbc> Heretic121: alright, hurry up cause im going to watch 'punch-drunk love' soon
[22:18] <Heretic121> (WW) Falling back to old probe method for sis
[22:18] <Heretic121> (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
[22:18] <Heretic121> (EE) No devices detected.
[22:18] <SolarisBoy> is there anyone that can help with upgrading vim to 7.3? im on lucid 7.2 is in repos
[22:18] <Sia--> Heretic121, use pastebin
[22:18] <SolarisBoy> i have a deb install
[22:18] <Heretic121> sorry Sia--
[22:19] <dzeremis> Well, the thing is that the ~/.wine/... works in the terminal but -doesn't exist- in the GUI file manager.
[22:19] <Sia--> SolarisBoy, let me know what is the difference?
[22:19] <billur> no i need a live cd. bacause i use tih s cd on many computers. many of this computer are not support to open ( boot) from usb :(
[22:19] <SolarisBoy> incremental history
[22:19] <billur>  Sia--: no i need a live cd. bacause i use tih s cd on many computers. many of this computer are not support to open ( boot) from usb :(
[22:19] <euptc> I installed zoneminder and i dont have a damn icon do I have to do that manually too?
[22:19] <SolarisBoy> and many other things as well
[22:19] <mgolisch> jcrawford: it sets the systemwide proxystuff in system/http-proxy system/proxy in gconf
[22:20] <Sia--> billur, i know better way to doing that wiat!
[22:20] <saulo_d2> p
[22:20] <mgolisch> jcrawford: no idea what it sets if you dont hit the apply systemwide button in the proxy config gui
[22:20] <saulo_d2> uptime
[22:20] <billur> Sia--: ok i am waiting for you...
[22:20] <dzeremis> Hi guys. Sorry, something went wrong and burned my IRC client. Was anything said about my computer problem while I was away?
[22:20] <billur> Sia--:  but i research many times. there is no another application like remastersys.
[22:21] <sfw> dzermis, sorry, no.
[22:21] <Heretic121> anyone got any ideas on my problem about the sis graphics card? :)
[22:22] <SolarisBoy> Persistent undo and undo for reload , Blowfish encryption, encryption of the swap file , Conceal text , Lua interface , Python 3 interface
[22:22] <SolarisBoy> are the most notable new additions from 7.3
[22:22] <SolarisBoy> Sia--: is that good enough for some assistance sir? =)
[22:23]  * dzeremis is really confused.
[22:23] <Sia--> billur, i know this way and work fine http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/22145/how-to-create-your-own-customized-ubuntu-live-cd/
[22:24] <Sia--> dzeremis, why?!
[22:24] <afeijo> #mysql
[22:24] <jcrawford> mgolisch, yea they seem like xml files and even have schema files you can use for creating new ones, when i looked in my default gconf all that is in there is my proxy stuff, so I am guessing i can use python to search the file for the proxy entries, remove them or add them as appropriate, but then i am sure i will need to do something else to make Gnome re-read those files as it does when you apply system wide
[22:25] <SolarisBoy> should i just backup my vim .files remove it with apt and make/compile install is what im asking... or would that not be the best way...possibly a ppa? not sure for ubuntu
[22:25]  * dzeremis --> I'm trying to access a program that works if I point my terminal to it but DOES NOT EXIST according to the GUI file manager.
[22:25]  * dzeremis might have missed something said.
[22:26] <Sia--> dzeremis, which program?
[22:26] <euptc> bugger
[22:26] <Random832> dzeremis: files that start with "." are hidden by default in the gui file manager
[22:26] <Random832> they're hidden by default in ls, too
[22:26] <d6chung> Hi, this is the first time I've seen this: in attempting to boot a live CD (10.04, in particular), it doesn't log me in. Switching to virtual consoles, I see "authentication failure" repeating... anyone knows what's going on?
[22:26] <theboxfactory> Good Afternoon. Anyone around to help a relative newbie with a 10.04 question please?
[22:27] <Sia--> SolarisBoy, did you try getdeb.net or ..etc? to install the new version?
[22:27] <dzeremis> Random832 --> All I want to do is set up a shortcut under Applications --> Wine --> Programs. Can you help me do this? I've tried all I know how to do so far.
[22:27] <Sia--> ! ask | theboxfactory
[22:27] <billur> Sia--: thank you but i need my .home folder too :(
[22:28] <SolarisBoy> no i haven't tried any of that, i was looking for advice on it if possible,, all i've done so far is try running upgrades to no avail. also just checking on the vim site for any clue
[22:28] <billur> Sia--:  i can not understand why it is not working. i did the same settings w,ith others...
[22:28] <SolarisBoy> ill check getdebmaybe they have it
[22:28] <Sia--> that is very simple just include it in
[22:28] <theboxfactory> ubottu: Thanks.
[22:28] <_newbie_> someone available for configure the xorg.conf ? please?
[22:28] <billur> Sia--:  anyway thank you. i will try everything again until it will work.
[22:28] <billur> Sia--:  i need it tooo much.. :(
[22:28] <jcrawford> nice: http://library.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/gconf-8.html.en#gconf-10
[22:28] <Heretic121> Anyone free to help me with my SiS mirage/Xorg problem?
[22:28] <Sia--> billur, but if the home is bigger that 700MB then forget CD
[22:28] <d6chung> http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1321574 <-- This is my problem, exactly but that thread doesn't seem to be resolved.
[22:29] <mgolisch> jcrawford: iam sure there is a python module for gconf there quite sme gnome apps written in python
[22:29] <mgolisch> jcrawford: probably bette than fidling with theraw xml files
[22:29] <d6chung> Er, minus the custom live CD. I'm using an official live CD.
[22:29] <SolarisBoy> nope not on getdeb either
[22:29] <dzeremis> I hate to beg but somebody please help!
[22:29] <billur> ) Sia--: it can be also dvd. it is not problem.
[22:29] <billur> ) Sia--:  the main problem is remastersys fuk.d my system :(
[22:29] <quant> dzeremis: what's up?
[22:29] <SolarisBoy> i did some pretty extensive searching (in my eyes) just seems we aren't at 7.3 yet
[22:29] <billur> ) Sia--: i did this system 2 weeks.. about..
[22:30] <Sia--> then cp -r ~/YOU
[22:30] <jcrawford> mgolisch, good point
[22:30] <SolarisBoy> i do wonder _removing_ vim and compiling it is a viable option?
[22:30] <theboxfactory> OK. I am running the Gnome desktop 10.04. I did an update this morning that required a reboot. After reboot. I  seemed to have lost the controls on the top right of the menubar. Logout/restart menu, Social media menu etc,etc. Any ideas?
[22:30] <root_> hey um i just upgraded to ubuntu 9
[22:30] <mgolisch> jcrawford: or call gconftool-2 which can set values too so you wuldnt need python at all
[22:30] <root_> 9.10 and i cant run for more than 3 minuets without locking up
[22:30] <xbonesx> root_: time to upgrade again lol
[22:30] <Sia--> SolarisBoy, dont remove vim just remove ~/.vim or .vimrc
[22:31] <root_> how can i revert back to 9
[22:31] <root_> 9.04
[22:31] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[22:31] <dzeremis> quant: Thanks for responding! I'm trying to get to ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/iTunes/iTunes.exe to be accessible through the Ubuntu file manager. I can only get to it via terminal at wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/iTunes/iTunes.exe
[22:31] <Sia--> ! downgrade | root_
[22:31] <root_> i dont care i have windows on a nother partition
[22:31] <root_> i just need to downgrade
[22:32] <xbonesx> root_: save data and do a fresh install of 10.04 its better
[22:32] <SolarisBoy> Sia--: what if i am trying mainly to preserve (what is preservable and compatible) from my scripts,plugins,dictionaries etc
[22:32] <quant> dzeremis: what do you mean by "trying to get to ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/iTunes/iTunes.exe to be accessible through the Ubuntu file manager"?
[22:32] <Sia--> dzeremis, itunes work with sp3, wine ...
[22:32] <root_> i cant run 10.04
[22:32] <dzeremis> quant: It's hidden in the File Manager. All I'm trying to do is create a shortcut to put under Applications but I'm having trouble doing even that. I can't access it through the file manager, only the terminal. What to do??
[22:32] <root_> cant even boot live cd
[22:32] <root_> of it
[22:32] <xbonesx> root_: why not?
[22:32] <SolarisBoy> so your saying move .vim* somewhere dont remove the deb install and make/install the latest and everything else should get taken care of?
[22:32] <diffred> Hi! Ubuntu 9.04 (cannot update), trying to open an rm file (video) with totem. The image works fine but there's no sound. The error:  http://pastebin.com/aFzZYDpJ
[22:32] <root_>  i just get the blinking underscore
[22:33] <dzeremis> Sia --> I use wine. But I have to go to the terminal to do it. I can't get an icon set up for it anywhere!
[22:33] <SolarisBoy> dzeremis: i vaguely remember a way to make wine shortcuts
[22:33] <Sia--> dzeremis, itunes doesn't work with vim
[22:33] <quant> dzeremis: I don't see why it would be hidden, but press CTRL+H in the file manager
[22:33] <dzeremis> Let me try. BRB, guys.
[22:33] <SolarisBoy> or maybe thats CrossOver Linux...
[22:33] <derp> ‮
[22:34] <root_> just ell me how i can downgrade
[22:34] <Sia--> ! downgrade | root_
[22:34] <root_> i if breaks my ubuntu install big deal
[22:34] <root_> i dont care if it breaks ubuntu install or not
[22:34] <dzeremis> Sia --> I'm not sure what VIM is. Visual Interface Manager? Using Wine, the iTunes program works.
[22:34] <SolarisBoy>  i think that was a typo
[22:35] <_newbie_> how to configure Xorg.conf , please ?
[22:35] <root_> im on root right now waiting for you to tell me
[22:35] <SolarisBoy> vim is a text editor & no way related to itunes
[22:35] <Sia--> _newbie_, create it first :)
[22:35] <root_> ether you tell me or im gonna switch back to windows
[22:35] <quant> root_: bye
[22:35] <root_> take a shit will ya
[22:35] <_newbie_> Sia--, how,please ?
[22:35] <quant> damn, we lost one, or did we?
[22:36] <dzeremis> SolarisBoy --> I can get to ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files but CTRL+H doesn't make the iTunes folder show up.
[22:36] <SolarisBoy> lol
[22:36] <Sia--> root_, backup your home and have fun
[22:36] <Sia--> _newbie_, can you use ubuntu wiki?
[22:36] <dzeremis> Yep, but s/he just wasn't into the spirit of Linux: common courtesy.
[22:36] <Sia--> ! xorg | _newbie_
[22:36] <SolarisBoy> or the other spirit of linux
[22:36] <SolarisBoy> fixing the issue!!
[22:37] <_newbie_> ./dir Xorg.conf /ect/X11/
[22:37] <_newbie_> I have Sis graphics, I need to configure
[22:37] <dzeremis> SolarisBoy/Sia-- >> Is this inability to get to the iTunes folder simply permanent? Do I have to type in the command in terminal every time.
[22:37] <SolarisBoy> where is the itunes folder?
[22:37] <dzeremis> SolarisBoy --> Mais oui. Yes, indeed. Linux is about working together. Personally I enjoy the challenge of fixing things.
[22:37] <Sia--> i'm not using ubutnu but just search in ubuntu wiki, if they still using xorg.conf or hal ..etc _newbie_
[22:38] <quant> dzeremis: you can make a shortcut for that command and place it in the launch bar
[22:38] <_newbie_> ! create Xorg
[22:38] <SolarisBoy> quant: true
[22:38] <dzeremis> quant --> That would be magnificent! How do I do this?
[22:38] <dzeremis> That's all I'm looking for. Just an icon I can put in the launch bar.
[22:38] <SolarisBoy> sometimes some applications dont notice the .files unless you explicitly type the .file in as well...
[22:39] <Sia--> _newbie_, dexconf
[22:39] <quant> dzeremis, right click the bar, choose add custom application and follow the menu
[22:39] <Sia--> _newbie_,  sudo dexconf
[22:39] <dzeremis> quant: let me try this.
[22:39] <SolarisBoy> im in a vim dungeon called 7.2.x =(
[22:39] <quant> dzeremis, first choose the add to panel option
[22:40] <dzeremis> quant --> Thanks for saying that. I was about to ask.
[22:40]  * SolarisBoy wants persistent undo! =(
[22:40] <_newbie_> Sia--, thanks. ;)
[22:40]  * SolarisBoy wimpers
[22:40]  * dzeremis seconds that.
[22:40] <Sia--> SolarisBoy, undo in vim
[22:40] <SolarisBoy> yes
[22:40] <dzeremis> quant: You know, I think I actually tried this once before. But let me retry.
[22:40] <SolarisBoy> in 7.3
[22:41] <the_e> hey guys, my professor requires us to use Fedora in his Linux admin class. I just installed it (using the option to shrink the current partition) but for some reason I don't get any Grub option to boot back into my Ubuntu partion. I know this isn't Fedora support, but I figure if anyone could help it's much faster than waiting for message board support
[22:41] <SolarisBoy>  Ability to undo and redo on file reload. Super useful at times
[22:41]  * SolarisBoy wants an encryted swap file
[22:41] <CamFox_> !grub | the_e
[22:42] <CamFox_> the_e: Check the restore Grub page
[22:42] <the_e> thank you
[22:42] <SolarisBoy> i could setup a vm to test it out i guess but thats so much time
[22:42] <the_e> by the by, Ubuntu is far better ;-)
[22:42] <Heretic121> Sia--, can you help with a sis mirage/xorg problem, please?
[22:42] <Sia--> SolarisBoy, u:
[22:42] <SolarisBoy> i can't afford to break vim my laptop or desktop is the problem
[22:43] <Sia--> SolarisBoy, is vim installed or just a light version with ubuntu
[22:43] <Sia--> # apt-get install vim
[22:43] <SolarisBoy> its installed forsure
[22:43] <SolarisBoy> Sia--: its installed
[22:43] <Sia--> ok undo :u
[22:44] <SolarisBoy> but it isn't persisting reloads
[22:44] <dzeremis> quant et al.: Hi again! All right, I tried setting up a shortcut for the command "wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/iTunes/iTunes.exe" and had no luck. Could the CAPS have any bearing on it?
[22:44] <SolarisBoy> one second...
[22:44]  * dzeremis keeps trying without luck.
[22:44] <quant> dzeremis, what was the error? what did you get?
[22:45] <lui> ciao
[22:45] <dzeremis> quant: I got no error message at all. I clicked the shortcut and nothing loaded at all. I tried elimating the wine command just to see what would happen and got an error message saying it could not execute it.
[22:45] <SolarisBoy> nope just tested,, doesn't persist reload
[22:45] <mgolisch> try using a shellscript instead and shortcut to that script
[22:46] <Sia--> SolarisBoy, :u mean pressing ESC to visualmode and press U
[22:46] <quant> dzeremis, make sure tha paths, caps etc. are correct
[22:46] <dzeremis> quant: iTunes works just fine executed by terminal but not by Ubuntu.
[22:46] <Flamesman> hey
[22:46] <Flamesman> how can I run a program on bash
[22:46] <Flamesman> without it
[22:46] <CamFox_> the_e: Having said that, you may lose the ability to boot in to Fedora if you just restore Grub. I don't know if that matters (I guess it does)
[22:46] <Flamesman> taking control
[22:46] <Flamesman> over the bash?
[22:46] <dzeremis> quant: let me try different combinations. BRB.
[22:46] <FloodBot2> Flamesman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:46] <SolarisBoy> same deal 'Already at oldest change'
[22:46] <quant> dzeremis, don't try different combos, try the right one :)
[22:46] <SolarisBoy> hrmm wait, let me see something
[22:47] <Sia--> SolarisBoy, that is mean you saved the doc's before and quited vim
[22:47] <SolarisBoy> yes
[22:47] <switch10_> ctrl X has stopped working for me in nano.
[22:47] <Sia--> then doesn
[22:47] <trism> Sia--: the new version of vim is supposed to have a feature that saves your undo history between sessions
[22:47] <Sia--> work
[22:47] <Flamesman> How can i run something on bash without it taking control over it? i need to start something remotely on SSH
[22:47] <SolarisBoy> exactly
[22:47] <Sia--> trism, hmm
[22:48] <SolarisBoy> this i am explaining
[22:48] <SolarisBoy> PERISTENT redo
[22:48] <Gotenks> switch10_ ctrlX doesn't do anything in nano
[22:48] <SolarisBoy> not simple redo
[22:48]  * Sia-- recommending #vim to SolarisBoy 
[22:48] <switch10_> Gotenks: it closes it.
[22:48] <SolarisBoy> ok
[22:48] <Gotenks> oh right...
[22:48] <SolarisBoy> they recommended me here =)
[22:48]  * dzeremis is operating off URL: http://www.ehow.com/how_5197743_download-itunes-linux-ubuntu.html
[22:48] <CamFox_> Flamesman: not sure I undersatn you, but try following the command with '&'
[22:49] <SolarisBoy> no worries though,, ill build out a vm
[22:49] <Sia--> SolarisBoy, not true
[22:49] <SolarisBoy> not today
[22:49] <switch10_> Gotenks: yeah you would use it often..
[22:49] <mgolisch> dzeremis: so it works if you start it from a terminal?
[22:49] <Guest66899> OLá
[22:49] <CamFox_> Flamesman: Like <command> &
[22:49] <diogo_79> hi
[22:49] <Heretic121> afk, attempting to reconfigure my xorg config after stopping gdm
[22:49] <SolarisBoy> this isn't something i woke up and decided today =) been on it for ~ 2 weeks
[22:49] <d6chung> Rebooting fixed my live CD issue...
[22:50] <SolarisBoy> just hovering around a plan to upgrade really,, before i go do something silly
[22:50] <Flamesman> thx
[22:50] <Flamesman> ill try
[22:50] <dzeremis> /me tried caps exactly as at above link. No luck. I tried using no caps. Didn't work. I eliminated the \ from "
[22:50] <dzeremis> wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/iTunes/iTunes.exe http://www.ehow.com/how_5197743_download-itunes-linux-ubuntu.html
[22:50] <diogo_79> what applications are using in ubuntu to join a machine to a windows domain????
[22:50] <Guest66899> Brazil ???
[22:50] <dzeremis> mgolisch: Hi! Yes, it ALWAYS works in the Terminal without a second's hesitation.
[22:50] <mgolisch> dzeremis: put the command in a shellscript
[22:51] <mgolisch> dzeremis: and have the starter start the shelscript
[22:51] <dzeremis> mgolisch: Is this the same thing as creating an Application Launcher
[22:51] <dzeremis> mgolisch: In other words, how do I create a shellscript?
[22:51] <ubuntu> does ubuntu have a way to overwrite every single bit on a  partition?  (including the filesystem data like the MFT)
[22:51] <Wolv> Olá
[22:52] <synackfin> how do I tell if I have ubuntu 10.04 Desktop or 10.04 Server?
[22:52] <Wolv> Hi
[22:52] <Wolv> Need help
[22:52] <dzeremis> Hi!
[22:52] <Wolv> my webcam
[22:52] <Gotenks> Anyone figured out how to run the most current FGLRX to Maverick 10.10?
[22:52] <Wolv> im 10.04
[22:52] <nerxgas> i'm not unregged, why am i here?
[22:53] <CamFox_> !ask | Wolv
[22:53] <nerxgas> i'm trying to find something like SAGE ACT! for linux, anyone have any ideas
[22:53]  * dzeremis doesn't know how to create a shellscript. I'm new to Linux, but with the proper attitude.
[22:53] <synackfin> anyone, is there a simple way to tell if I have ubuntu 10.04 Desktop or 10.04 Server?
[22:53] <ubuntu> I know I could use "dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sdXX"  but that won't overwrite the MFT.
[22:54] <SoulShadow> anyone use a program to minimize mail to systray?
[22:54] <SolarisBoy> thats strange for some reason im in the channel but can't talk
[22:54] <SoulShadow> since evolution wants the whole program open just to get mail
[22:54]  * dzeremis : Please... Prašau... Bitte... S'il vous plaît... Por favor... etc.
[22:54] <dzeremis> mgolisch: still there?
[22:55] <SolarisBoy> but i was saying :help persistent-undo is in 7.3 ubuntu is at 7.2 Sia--
[22:55] <switch10_> dzeremis: put commands into a text file, save with a .sh extension, chmod u+x file.sh
[22:55] <ubuntu> Can anyone see this text?  I'm used to talking from a different IRC client, and I wasn't sent to ubuntu-unregged....?
[22:55] <mgolisch> ubuntu: yeah we see you
[22:55] <CamFox_> ubuntu: 10-4
[22:56] <diffred> Hi! Ubuntu 9.04 (cannot update), trying to open an rm file (video) with totem. The image works fine but there's no sound. The error:  http://pastebin.com/aFzZYDpJ .
[22:56] <dzeremis> switch10: Hi! Um... okay, wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/iTunes/iTunes.exe . Then what?
[22:57] <kneaux> dzeremis, that should do it, although unless you're determined to use the itunes store through itunes i'd suggest just going with rhythmbox
[22:57] <SolarisBoy> Sia--: i see the room but can't talk,, thanks for the help that feature is not in 7.2
[22:57] <SolarisBoy> ill figure it out
[22:57]  * dzeremis will try that as best he can
[22:57] <jonathon> nerxgas: Have you heard of Sugar CRM?
[22:57] <nerxgas> JonathanD, no, i'll look into it
[22:57] <switch10_> dzeremis: that is your shell script?
[22:57] <Sia--> SolarisBoy, then use the new version compile it package it ..etc
[22:57] <dzeremis> kneaux: Cool handle! No, I will never use the iTunes Store.
[22:58] <nerxgas> JonathanD, it appears there may be web based alternatives like Joomla
[22:58] <SolarisBoy> lol thanks alot sir.
[22:58] <dzeremis> switch10: This is what I put into text editor:
[22:58] <kneaux> dzeremis, so why itunes?
[22:58] <conb123> Hiya, I was just having a lot of trouble with my graphics, I had to revert back to 2.6.32-21 from 2.6.32-24. I also had to remove the linux-image-2.6.32-24 package entirely since dkms would not install fglrx with it installed. Does this mean I will not be notified by update manager when 2.6.32-25 is released?
[22:58] <dzeremis> switch10: I understood to save this as a .sh then chmod u+x myfile.sh
[22:58] <jonathon> nerxgas: Look for Sugar CRM community edition
[22:59] <_Zappy__> Hello ! When I move my windows around in Ubuntu, the screen updates VERY SLOWLY ! I just installed the latest ati radeon HD 5xxx (10.9) to make sure the driver is up to date, but still I have the same problem. Any hints what is happening ? Any settings I need to change ?
[22:59] <conb123> _Zappy_: Try aticonfig --initial then reboot
[22:59] <_Zappy__> aticonfig is a command ?
[23:00] <conb123> Yup
[23:00] <jonathon> nerxgas: Sugar is web based I think. Haven't set it up yet but I found it when looking to replace ACT at our company.
[23:00] <nerxgas> JonathanD, cool thanks :)
[23:00] <JoshDreamland> Trying to add a Windows printer. All the how-tos with screenshots are woefully outdated. The computer is reachable at smb://sheila-pc/. A folder smb://sheila-pc/print$/ exists, containing several other folders. Ubuntu can't do anything with any of it.
[23:01] <conb123> _Zappy__: If the command tells you it didn't find a xorg.conf and made one then you might be in luck otherwise you might have to revert your kernel like I did
[23:01] <_Zappy__> conb123, 'aticonfig just gives me a whole slew of text' .... doesn't seem to do much
[23:01] <Gotenks> the newest fglrx is screwed with xorg 1.9
[23:01] <conb123> _Zappy__: Pastebin the text
[23:01] <dzeremis> kneaux: What programs would you suggest? I'm just trying to get my iPod disconnected from the iTunes on a Windows Vista machine. I thought I might need iTunes under Ubuntu.
[23:02] <SolarisBoy> dzeremis: 10.04 support i* products
[23:02] <dzeremis> SolarisBoy: Arg! Please specify what to do. I'm not sure how to get to those.
[23:02] <SolarisBoy> dzeremis: upgrade to 10.04
[23:03] <BitEncrypt> totem can stream from shoutcast
[23:03] <conb123> _Zappy__: You got that pastebin?
[23:03] <conb123> Take that as a no
[23:03] <SolarisBoy> it works out of box,, you would just need to plug in the device and it will mount and be accessible/syncable with apps like ryhthmbox which are native to ubuntu install
[23:03] <dzeremis> SolarisBoy: According to About Ubuntu, I am using 10.04. I installed only a few days ago.
[23:03] <SolarisBoy> lsb_release -a
[23:04] <SolarisBoy> will say what level your at,, if you are,, try this,, plug in the ipod
[23:04] <Exxon> ! paste | conb123
[23:04] <SolarisBoy> i believe ryhthmbox just opens up a new folder for the ipod and you can get to your music like that
[23:04] <conb123> Exxon: Yeah, I know, I was asking _Zappy__ to paste some text for me
[23:05] <coventry> It'd be kind of cool to wrap the bot in something which used the information content of the game itself to transmit stack trace info or the like on the bot's failure.  If you don't care about getting your ass kicked, you could communicate a lot of information through the fleet assignments...
[23:05] <ekim__> how do I setup the webcam on a dell mini 12 (1210) with ubuntu 10.04?
[23:05]  * dzeremis needs to know how to get to support i* products for 10.04
[23:05] <ekim__> It is not setup by default install.
[23:05] <coventry> Oops, wrong forum, sorry.
[23:05] <SolarisBoy> dzeremis: its built in afaik
[23:05] <mikebeecham> guys, where is Software Source in Meerkat?
[23:05] <iceroot> mikebeecham: #ubuntu+1
[23:05] <switch10_> ekim__: sudo apt-get install cheese
[23:06] <mikebeecham> iceroot, thanks...I wondered where it had gone
[23:06] <_Zappy__> conb123, Sorry ... by accident closed Xchat :(
[23:06] <SolarisBoy> dzeremis: nothing should need to be done,,just swap out itunes for rhythmbox
[23:06] <ekim__> cheese??
[23:06] <conb123> _Zappy__:No problem, you got the paste?
[23:06] <SolarisBoy> !cheese
[23:06] <_Zappy__> conb123, I'm getting: aticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Permission denied.
[23:06] <SolarisBoy> aww
[23:06] <RBecker> Any ideas?
[23:06] <RBecker> Hey guys, I updated from 10.04 to the 10.10 beta and now GDM/X won't start
[23:06] <conb123> _Zappy__: Sorry should have mentioned you need to sudo that, so the command is sudo aticonfig --initial -f
[23:07] <SolarisBoy> _Zappy__: need to be root to right there
[23:07] <dzeremis> Okay. Is RythmnBox at all compatible with iTunes? i.e., if I plug it into my Windows computer?
[23:07] <SolarisBoy> dzeremis: RythmnBox is an application
[23:07]  * dzeremis interestingly, the command wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/iTunes/iTunes.exe no longer works. It says there is no such file in /home/jeremy
[23:07] <_Zappy__> conb123, Much better :) We reboot now and try
[23:07] <_Zappy__> We = Will
[23:07] <SolarisBoy> meh
[23:08] <_Zappy__> See you in a bit
[23:08] <conb123> _Zappy__: Good luck
[23:08] <SolarisBoy> dzeremis: iTunes doesn't really work on ubuntu afaik
[23:08] <dzeremis> I'm running RhythmBox. My question is where I will be able to get to all my music under iTunes control, i.e., under Windows, I could not access the music files on the iPod directly.
[23:08] <mgolisch> dzeremis: you didnt escape the blank/space
[23:08] <RBecker> SolarisBoy: it doesn'.
[23:08] <SolarisBoy> what are you looking to do?
[23:08] <RBecker> dosn't*
[23:08] <dzeremis> mgolisch: What do I do?
[23:08] <mgolisch> dzeremis: youd have to put a backslash infront of the space
[23:08] <RBecker> Hey guys, I updated from 10.04 to the 10.10 beta and now GDM/X won't start.  Any ideas?
[23:08] <SolarisBoy> im trying to explain you dont need itunes, you need to only try using rhytmbox
[23:08] <mgolisch> like Program\ Files
[23:09] <dzeremis> I am looking to manage my iPod under Ubuntu and preferably be able to see it under iTunes under Windows.
[23:09] <dzeremis> Okay, I will work on using RhythmBox.
[23:09] <SoulShadow> #ubuntu+1 RBecker
[23:09] <SolarisBoy> dzeremis: yes
[23:09] <RBecker> thanks SoulShadow
[23:09] <Exxon> dzeremis: IPod sucks :)
[23:09] <SolarisBoy> thats ok,, rhythmbox similar to itunes only plays music files,, so long as those files are playable by itunes,, should be no issues
[23:09] <conb123> So, sorry to repeat myself, but I had to remove 2.6.32-24 to revert back to 2.6.32-21 to fix my graphics with fglrx, does anyone know if this will stop me from being notified by update-manager about 2.6.32-25+?
[23:09] <_Zappy__> conb123, Still as slow :(
[23:09] <SoulShadow> get something that actually plays music
[23:09] <SoulShadow> :D
[23:10] <SolarisBoy> i use mocp =)
[23:10] <dzeremis> mgolisch: Just for curiousityś sake, could you write the command directly? I'm not having any luck.
[23:10] <SoulShadow> i have a sansa fuze
[23:10] <_Zappy__> conb123, Should I try the 32 bit driver ?
[23:10] <conb123> _Zappy__: Hmm looks like you might be in the same boat as me then, I have a 5750, give me a sec I'll write you up some instructions
[23:10]  * Gotenks had a sansa once, I formatted it to ext3 and that was the end of it, couldn't even use it as a storage device
[23:10] <_Zappy__> How do you actually uninstall a graphic driver ?
[23:11] <mgolisch> dzeremis: why do you want itunes at all? i doubt itunes in wine will be able to put musik onto your ipod
[23:11] <mgolisch> dzeremis: why dont you use rhythmbox?
[23:11] <_Zappy__> Thanks conb123
[23:11] <thomasfuston> Aloha i got a short (possible stupid) question, i done a basic cli install of ubuntu 10.04 i want now install pekwm, done it but after i try to start pekwm, it tells me "cannot open Display" your DISPLAY variable is set to:
[23:11] <dzeremis> mgolisch: All right, at this point, can I uninstall iTunes. I installed it using Wine, but Wine has no reference to it.
[23:11] <quant> _Zappy__, simple way is to go to hardware drivers option under administration
[23:11] <Obie_Quatro> mgolisch, individual should go with RythmBox
[23:11] <switch10_> dzeremis: mgolisch there is no usb support in wine so you will never be able to do it that way
[23:11] <dzeremis> mgolisch: http://www.ehow.com/how_5197743_download-itunes-linux-ubuntu.html
[23:11] <Obie_Quatro> I doubt Apple will make iTunes for GNU/Linux
[23:11] <dzeremis> switch10: That's insane. I didn't know that.
[23:11] <dzeremis> Can I delete this thing?
[23:12] <kneaux> when you set your keyboard preferences, what file contains the definitions for the keyboard layouts you use?
[23:12] <_Zappy__> Thanks quant !
[23:12] <quant> _Zappy__, np
[23:12]  * clarkk wonders if ppa.launchpad.net is down?
[23:12] <switch10_> dzeremis: rhythmbox works great for syncing music on apple devices
[23:12] <quant> clarkk, it is for me
[23:12] <conb123> _Zappy__: This should work http://pastebin.com/maiHbnAB think the new kernel screwed with fglrx for us 5xxx series owners
[23:12] <SolarisBoy> switch10_: certainly does
[23:13] <Obie_Quatro> Apple is quirky anyway
[23:13] <clarkk> quant: is for me from several locations too
[23:13] <ekim__> switch10_:  it installed okay but how do I get it to show me on the screen before I take pic?  It just shows a black background.
[23:13] <_Zappy__> quant, That's weird ! It tells me no proprietary drivers are in use in this system , and it gives me an empty list
[23:13] <quant> _Zappy__, then you're using the open source driver
[23:13] <conb123> _Zappy__: Try my link http://pastebin.com/maiHbnAB
[23:13] <tjubaluba> is there some nice util for sending wake-on-lan messages on linux?
[23:13] <Obie_Quatro> Would you rather run Mac OS X or Ubuntu Linux ?
[23:13] <dzeremis> switch10: I'll do it. I want to rid my computer of iTunes. Do I simply delete ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/iTunes?
[23:13] <SolarisBoy> ubuntu
[23:14] <MaximLevitsky> tjubaluba: wakeonlan and etherwake
[23:14] <JoshDreamland> Now the printer won't take any username or password
[23:14] <Obie_Quatro> ubuntu me too
[23:14] <tjubaluba> MaximLevitsky, thanx man
[23:14] <dadawg> I need some tips with using iwconfig
[23:14] <Obie_Quatro> Ubuntu or Linux is just fun to play with and configure
[23:14] <dadawg> i can connect fine using gnome gui but i would like to be able to use console
[23:14] <SolarisBoy> dzeremis: you can try removing it with wine,, but its not really "installed" on your system
[23:15] <SolarisBoy> its just placed in directories for wine to call on
[23:15] <thomasfuston> i done a cli install, installed pekwm, wanted to start em, but now i get the answer "can not open display!, Your DISPLAY variable currently is set to:"
[23:15] <SolarisBoy> so removing (rm) it i dont believe will do harm accept leave a stale entry in the wine menu
[23:15] <dzeremis> SolarisBoy: Is is even worth going through the directories to delete?
[23:15] <quant> dzeremis, applications -> wine -> uninstall wine programs
[23:15] <SolarisBoy> dzeremis: not really
[23:15] <dzeremis> quant / SolarisBoy: Okay, got it
[23:15] <Obie_Quatro> your brain cells increase when you use Linux because you are trying to figure out how to install programs and compile programs and eventually you learn some programming along the way
[23:16] <dadawg> is there a way to adapt the settings from network manager into iwconfig
[23:16] <SolarisBoy> Obie_Quatro: you mainly learn logic of systems using linux =)
[23:16] <Obie_Quatro> its kinda like a puzzle
[23:16] <SolarisBoy> of where to look when,,, and thats portable across most OS
[23:16] <Obie_Quatro> SolarisBoy, right and you dabble into programming shell scripts, c programming and java
[23:17] <ratdog> New Peak for this channel is 1 set on 19/09/2010
[23:17] <SolarisBoy> right because the lot of it is open and easy for you to read
[23:17] <synackfin> the grub.deb post-install is trying to write to my MBR - how do I avoid it from doing so?
[23:17] <sje46> hey, is there an offtopic ubuntu or linux channel?
[23:17] <JoshDreamland> Why does this networked printer refuse to take the authentication of ANY user on that computer?
[23:17] <SolarisBoy> ubuntu-offtopic exists no?
[23:17] <Obie_Quatro> SolarisBoy, If I didn't have Linux I would have never really wanted to learn programming and how to compile code at all
[23:17] <ratdog> New Peak for this channel is 1345 set on 19/09/2010
[23:17] <ratdog> New Peak for this channel is 1346 set on 19/09/2010
[23:18] <sje46> thanks SolarisBoy
[23:18] <SolarisBoy> my father taught me solaris luckily =)
[23:18] <heretic121> I've tried stopping gdm and then reconfiguring but it failed
[23:18] <Obie_Quatro> SolarisBoy, and you applied your solaris skills to Linux right ?
[23:18] <dadawg> anyone an expert on the subject of iwconfig?
[23:18] <SolarisBoy> ofcourse i found ubuntu later and loved it
[23:18] <ratdog> im on 10.10, tried to install ATi driver, now i can only login on text mode...
[23:18] <SolarisBoy> Obie_Quatro: in general
[23:19] <BLUEPOSTIT> Hi, anyone can confirm that ppa.launchpad.net is down ? Can't apt-update this afternoon
[23:19] <ratdog> New Peak for this channel is 1347 set on 19/09/2010
[23:19] <quant> BLUEPOSTIT, yes
[23:19] <ratdog> srrt
[23:19] <SolarisBoy> Unix and Linux have a lot of similarities anyway so the switchover was simple
[23:19] <ratdog> y
[23:19] <ratdog> anyhow
[23:19] <ratdog> im on 10.10, tried to install ATi driver, now i can only login on text mode...
[23:19] <BLUEPOSTIT> @quant Any clue when it will be back?
[23:19] <dzeremis> Thanks for the help, everybody.
[23:19] <quant> BLUEPOSTIT, nope :)
[23:19] <SolarisBoy> yw
[23:19] <BLUEPOSTIT> Thanks!
[23:20] <Obie_Quatro> SolarisBoy, I noticed if you are teaching computer science install Ubuntu Linux in the classroom and the kids seem to learn more and their problem solving skills goes up
[23:20] <SolarisBoy> Obie_Quatro: indeed
[23:20] <thomasfuston> anyone know what this means "can not open your display! Your DISPLAY variable currently set to:..." this trown to me if i try to start a wm
[23:20] <mgolisch> thomasfuston: it means display is set wrong
[23:20] <SolarisBoy> it means the display set in your profile is not right
[23:20] <SolarisBoy> display = screen
[23:21] <thomasfuston> SolarisBoy: lol...
[23:21] <ratdog> anyone, 10.10, tried to install ATi driver, now i can only login on text mode...
[23:21] <RBecker> #ubuntu+1 ratdog
[23:21] <ratdog> ehh
[23:21] <thomasfuston> mgolisch: but in what way, xorg? there is no xorg avail at the moment clean cli install
[23:21] <RBecker> go there instead
[23:21] <ratdog> kk
[23:21] <mgolisch> thomasfuston: how do you expect to start wm without x11?
[23:22] <SolarisBoy> what version of vim is  10.10 on?
[23:22] <ratdog> beta
[23:22] <SolarisBoy> mgolisch: not happening
[23:22] <SolarisBoy> =)
[23:22] <mgolisch> SolarisBoy: packages.ubuntu.com
[23:22] <Flannel> SolarisBoy: #ubuntu+1 would be the place to ask that.  But looks like 7.2.330
[23:23] <SolarisBoy> =(
[23:23] <heretic121> can anyone help with my sis mirage/xorg problem?
[23:23] <SolarisBoy> whos feet do i have to rub down at canonical to get 7.3?
[23:23] <SolarisBoy> i give great massages
[23:23]  * SolarisBoy wink wink
[23:23] <Flannel> SolarisBoy: #ubuntu+1 is the place to go to ask all about it, not here.
[23:24] <dzeremis> Bye for now to everybody. Best wishes for a great week.
[23:24] <SolarisBoy> Flannel: i want it on 10.04 i was just wondering what was up and coming
[23:25] <SolarisBoy> brb
[23:25] <alkamid> hello, I need help with running a .jnlp file on 10.04
[23:25] <alkamid> I have sun-java6 installed
[23:26] <alkamid> and I'm trying to run it with "Sun Java 6 Web Start"
[23:26] <Cuervo> hello, has anyone here managed to from Evan's debugger on ubuntu, and have it work correctly?
[23:26] <Cuervo> it always freezes when I try to open a program with it
[23:26] <dadawg> is there a way to save the current wireless settings and have them load at startup or part of .profile for example?
[23:27] <theboxfactory> I am running the Gnome desktop 10.04. I did an update this morning that required a reboot. After reboot. I  seemed to have lost the controls on the top right of the menubar. Logout/restart menu, Social media menu etc,etc. Any ideas?
[23:27] <emet> 1337 people
[23:27] <mgolisch> dadawg: in networkmanager? it should do that automaticaly
[23:27] <emet> cause I came in
[23:27] <dadawg> mgolisch: networkmanager has saved it, but i want to be able to load it up from the console
[23:27] <rallias> I downloaded a login theme from the gnome art site. How do i apply it?
[23:28] <ratdog> apt-get remove fglrx
[23:28] <ratdog> >:)
[23:28] <ratdog> reverts to the open sorce driver
[23:29] <Exxon> alkamid: http://rickucker.blogspot.com/2010/05/using-jnlp-files-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[23:29] <flyguy> hi
[23:30] <flyguy> what is the bestest netbook?
[23:30] <flyguy> for ubuntu too
[23:30] <flyguy> and one that and cryptology
[23:30] <flyguy> fingerprinting
[23:30] <Exxon> !enter | flyguy
[23:31] <flyguy> how come?
[23:31] <flyguy> oh, how come?\
[23:31] <Flannel> flyguy: Using the enter key as punctuation causes unnecessary scrolling.
[23:31] <flyguy> and that is bad, because?
[23:31] <incog> so im running ubuntu on a netbook and suddenly i can no longer see video when i play any format video, i still get the audio
[23:31] <turtle_> hello
[23:31] <Flannel> flyguy: Because this channel is busy already.  There's no need to make things move faster than they already do.
[23:31] <flyguy> incognito, what netbook do you have, buddy?
[23:32] <incog> msi u130
[23:32] <flyguy> incog, oh kewl, when did you get it?
[23:32] <incog> a few months ago
[23:32] <flyguy> incog, do you have the latest vidoe drivesr?
[23:32] <incog> just updated today and video is broken
[23:32] <basys> I just installed ncurses-hexedit from the Software Center.  How do I run it?
[23:32] <alkamid> Exxon, thanks but I have actually the non-free sun-java6
[23:33] <incog> and ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version
[23:33] <incog> no errors in x server logs
[23:33] <basys> "ncurses" doesn't work, and there is no new icon in "Applications"
[23:33] <quant> incog: administration -> hardware drivers and uninstall drivers and see if it helps, then revert to the last good proprietary version if needed
[23:33] <alkamid> Exxon, the command given on the blog (sudo update-alternatives --config javaws) gives the following output: There is only one alternative in link group javaws: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/javaws . Nothing to configure.
[23:35] <heretic121> can anyone help with my sis mirage/xorg problem?
[23:35] <edbian> heretic121, Your sister has a problem with mirage?
[23:35] <basys> can anyone recommend a hex editor that will allow me access to a partition?  I want to overwrite the MFT.
[23:35] <heretic121> lol no edbian
[23:35] <heretic121> SiS Mirage is a graphics
[23:36] <heretic121> *graphics card
[23:36] <heretic121> which comes integrated with my laptop
[23:37] <incog> no proprietary drivers used on this system, it thumbnails the videos fine
[23:37] <edbian> heretic121, What's the problem?
[23:37] <brutal_chaos> hello
[23:37] <edbian> brutal_chaos, hi
[23:37] <xbonesx> is there a release of camtasia for ubuntu???
[23:37] <brutal_chaos> xbonesx: I don't think so, there are alternatives
[23:37] <brutal_chaos> really good ones, let me look it up for you, one sec.
[23:37] <Lancelot> quick question. I heard there was a package for ubuntu that let it use windows drivers for the wireless adapter
[23:37] <Lancelot> what is it?
[23:38] <thecdggseries> how to use twitterdeck on kubutnu?
[23:38] <turtle_> (hopefully) quick question, is there any easy way of updating intltool? need a newer version to config the compiz extras apparently
[23:38] <friendlystranger> How can I find out what a command executes? Forexample if I type python how do I find out what it actually executes?
[23:38] <heretic121> edbian, xorg apparently can't find any display devices
[23:38] <edbian> Lancelot, ndiswrapper
[23:38] <mgolisch> heretic121: did you google? i remember the drivers for those are realy bad, consider buying a diffeent laptop or dont use x11
[23:38] <brutal_chaos> Lancelot: ndis
[23:38] <Lancelot> thanks edbian
[23:38] <edbian> heretic121, Does lspci see the card?
[23:38] <Lancelot> and brutal_chaos
[23:38] <heretic121> edbian, yup
[23:38] <heli0s> In normal circumstances when you grep it takes out that line only
[23:38] <soreau> turtle_: Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:38] <turtle_> 10.10
[23:38] <heli0s> is there anyway to take out that line and those above/below it
[23:39] <heretic121> mgolisch, I have googled and I'm aware that the card sucks with Ubuntu
[23:39] <edbian> heretic121, Does lscpi -k list a driver or any kernel modules for the card?
[23:39] <xbonesx> brutal_chaos: how did this kid use it??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgIQhP7ZYHI
[23:39] <soreau> turtle_: It is not likely you need a newer version then.
[23:39] <brutal_chaos> xbonesx: KRecordMyDesktop supposedly works, I can't find the tool I am thinking of right now. If i see you around when i remember it, i'll msg you. Goold luck with that one though!
[23:39] <synackfin> how do I tell if I'm running ubuntu 10.04 Desktop or 10.04 Server?
[23:39] <heretic121> hmm... I don't see any modules listed for it
[23:39] <turtle_> 'checking for intltool >= 0.35.0... ./configure: line 11466: intltool-update: command not found
[23:39] <turtle_>  found
[23:39] <turtle_> configure: error: Your intltool is too old.  You need intltool 0.35.0 or later.
[23:39] <turtle_> '
[23:39] <FloodBot1> turtle_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:39] <edbian> synackfin, Do you have a graphical interface?
[23:39] <synackfin> edbian: I used debootstrap
[23:40] <Flannel> synackfin: Depends on what features of each you're looking for.  (There's no significant difference between the two, just different packages installed)
[23:40] <edbian> synackfin, To install?  I'm talking about.  When you turn on the computer and log in.  Is it graphical or command line only?
[23:40] <brutal_chaos> xbonesx: Did you follow the video?
[23:40] <Flannel> synackfin: uname -a, are you running the server kernel, or the generic kernel?
[23:41] <brutal_chaos> xbonesx: The caster describes exactly how to get it
[23:41] <xbonesx> not camtasia tho
[23:41] <synackfin> edbian/Flannel: I just ran `debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch amd64 lucid /mnt/ubuntu http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/` and chroot'd into /mnt/ubuntu
[23:41] <xbonesx> he said he used camtasia
[23:41] <youtux> hi, can somebody tell me if mathtex works?
[23:41] <incog> so yeah, video files of all formats thumbnail and play audio but i get no video at all, this worked fine before i updated today
[23:41] <koshari> any apps to print part of the screen to printer rather than save as screenshot?
[23:41] <edbian> heretic121, If you search the card name in synaptic do any packages show up that offer drivers for it?
[23:41] <xbonesx> roughly 2:06
[23:42] <edbian> synackfin, What does uname -a look like?  It should list the kernel type
[23:42] <Flannel> synackfin: Why do you want to know, ultimately?  Are you following a guide that only claims to work on server or desktop? or what?
[23:42] <WinstonSmith> koshari, ALT + Printscreen
[23:42] <basys> Hexedit is supposed to have a "-d" (disk) option, but "man hexedit" does not mention it.  source:  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/hexeditor.1.html
[23:42] <ukubuntu> I have a q, If I want my ubuntu machine upstairs and a screen and keyboard downstais, is there a cheap way to to extend my mouse keyboad and monitor without puttin in a computer downstairs? I could use a fanless viglen, but this is too under powered. Are the cheap kvm extenders? I am small time on technical ability to you guys but willing to learn if pointed to refernce material :D Thanks
[23:42] <synackfin> Flannel: the 10.04 server has 5 years LTS, the 10.04 desktop has 3 years LTS
[23:43] <koshari> WinstonSmith: that copys to desktop, i want to send it streight to printer
[23:43] <xbonesx> is it possible to use crack for software ran from wine?
[23:43] <smallfoot-> basys, then file a bug that documentaiton needs be updated
[23:43] <brutal_chaos> xbonesx: He recorded the video and audio with gtk recorder, but put the effects, etc with camtasia
[23:43] <Flannel> synackfin: That's correct.  But it's a bit more complicated than that.  It's just that "server" packages are supported for five years, and ones that haven't been designated as "server" are only supported for three.
[23:43] <popey> ukubuntu: get a very long USB cable?
[23:43] <popey> ukubuntu: and a usb hub
[23:43] <friendlystranger> Anyway to find out what exactly gets executed when I typed Python2.5?
[23:43] <xbonesx> brutal_chaos: right but how did he use camtasia
[23:44] <hmw> friendlystranger: which <commandname> tells you
[23:44] <Flannel> synackfin: So, in four years, you might find that some packages you use (even on a "server" install) aren't being updated anymore
[23:44] <popey> friendlystranger: type 'which Python2.5'
[23:44] <ukubuntu> heheh, popey, does it extend 10m?
[23:44] <friendlystranger> ah thanks guys
[23:44] <popey> ukubuntu: yup
[23:44] <quant> friendlystranger, execute top after executing Pythong? or type ps -e
[23:44] <brutal_chaos> xbonesx: probably on a windows box.
[23:44] <popey> ukubuntu: maplin sell them I think
[23:44] <ukubuntu> Kewl, does that do vid too?
[23:44]  * dzeremis has a quick question: Does there exist such a program for Ubuntu that will audit your MP3 collection, using some online matching service, to see if your MP3 collection is correctly labeled and/or label them consistently? I'm trying to save myself from having to do all of that work manually, a nightmarish chore.
[23:44] <synackfin> Flannel: I see, so there's just one "lucid" install, and only packages are either "server" or "desktop" ?
[23:44] <brutal_chaos> or possibly through wine: http://www.winehq.org/
[23:44] <popey> ukubuntu: sadly not, you might be able to get very long VGA cables at maplin though too, if not, CPC Farnell
[23:44] <xbonesx> brutal_chaos: :( no big deal
[23:45] <Flannel> synackfin: Not even "either" but yeah.  Some packages have a longer support (5 years) than others.
[23:45] <xbonesx> brutal_chaos: whats some alt. for camtasia???
[23:45] <friendlystranger> How can I find out what a symbolic links point to?
[23:45] <friendlystranger> link*
[23:45] <dzeremis> Does anybody know of a program that will "fix" your music collection for you (i.e., labels)?
[23:45] <ukubuntu> Thank you I will look into it very losely. Thank you for your time you are a truly valuable resource :)
[23:45] <dzeremis> Pretty please...
[23:45] <popey> ukubuntu: no problem, also we have a uk channel #ubuntu-uk
[23:45] <brutal_chaos> xbonesx: http://cinelerra.org/
[23:45] <koshari> ukubuntu your going to have issues with both usb cables longer than 3 meters as well as video, which effectively KVM uses, i would suggest a small forntend and remote desktop in
[23:46] <Jantire> so is this where all the hackers hang out?
[23:46] <popey> koshari: i have 10M usb cable here :)
[23:46] <quant> Jantire, no
[23:46] <edbian> Jantire, ha ha ha.  NO
[23:46] <brutal_chaos> xbonesx: native linux video editing suite. it's the good stuff.
[23:46] <ukubuntu> ;) thanks popey, noted
[23:46] <Sgeo|Empathy> Hi all
[23:46] <synackfin> Flannel: by the way, how do I install dialog? I tried apt-get install dialog, and it errors "Package dialog is not available, but is referred to by another package"
[23:46] <LjL> dzeremis: yes, look for "musicbrainz". they have both a program that tries to do matching using your ID3 tags (the labels) and filenames, called "Picard", and a service that does so-called "audio-fingerprinting", i.e. actually tries to recognize the song - the latter is available for instance in Amarok. Picard and Amarok are available in the Ubuntu repos.
[23:46] <joesin> can someone help with x11 forwarding from ubuntu to xp putty please
[23:46] <heretic121> edbian, I can't find anything
[23:46] <youtux> why doesn't mathtex work?
[23:46] <Sgeo|Empathy> Now that I have an Ubuntu Live USB, can I start from that USB without X?
[23:46] <Sgeo|Empathy> Then activate X later?
[23:46] <SolarisBoy> dzeremis: i thnk eztag was the name of one
[23:47] <koshari> popey i have a usb extender for a bt dongle, but its still the case that long usb cables are troublesome
[23:47] <edbian> heretic121, Mmmm, it's possible the card simply isn't supported.  Try googling.  Other than that I don't know! :(
[23:47] <dzeremis> LjL and SolarisBoy : Thank you very much. Now where do I go to find these programs? Google or some software manager w/i Ubuntu?
[23:47] <brutal_chaos> xbonesx: HTH, i need to get going. Good Luck! Btw, if you like tinkering with linux and getting hardcaore into learning how it all meshes together, look into Gentoo linux. However, it is basically for experts, or those willing to spend a weekend glued to their monitor.
[23:47] <friendlystranger> How do I get information about a symbolic link?
[23:47] <LjL> dzeremis: they're in the repos, it means you can install them from Synaptic or another standard Ubuntu package manager.
[23:47] <Flannel> synackfin: 'dialog' is in universe, you likely don't have all of the official repositories (if any) configured right now.
[23:47] <LjL> !software > dzeremis    (dzeremis, see the private message from ubottu)
[23:47] <Sgeo|Empathy> And which is the better ddrescue?
[23:48] <SolarisBoy> yes
[23:48] <incog> oh i found out my problem, looks like ubuntu cant handle plying video if im using dual monitors
[23:48] <incog> i have to switch to mirror mode, which is mega low rez
[23:48] <incog> for videos to display
[23:48] <brutal_chaos> xbonesx: I'll be idling on freenode, pm me if you need help
[23:48] <synackfin> Flannel: where do I get the list?
[23:48] <mgolisch> incog: tried a different player?
[23:49] <LjL> dzeremis: doing "apt-cache rdepends libtunepimp5" (tunepimp being the Musicbrainz library that does tagging), i see that also "kid3-qt", a tagger, uses it. perhaps it's lighter than Amarok to install, since Amarok is a KDE program and will bring all the KDE libraries
[23:49] <joesin> can someone help with x11 forwarding from ubuntu openssh to xp putty please
[23:49] <xbonesx> brutal_chaos: hey thanks man
[23:49] <turtle_> so why would it say I need to update my intltool when trying to config the compiz extras?
[23:49] <Arafangi1n> incog: Also try playing the video on the other screen. Only one of the screens might be video capable, depending on how crappy the drivers are.
[23:49] <soreau> turtle_: Can you pastebin the output?
[23:50] <turtle_> sure give us a mo
[23:50]  * Sgeo|Empathy sighs
[23:50] <incog> already tried everything, it will only play in mirror mode on either screen
[23:50] <dzeremis> LjL : I'm experimenting with Synaptic Package Manager. It found Picard. I'll see what happens and keep trying
[23:50] <koshari> incog its more likely your video cards limitation, i can play video in dual acreen fine with compiz enabled
[23:50] <Flannel> synackfin: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/  You want all four of the "branches" (don't need the source versions) and "updates" and "security" for updates (again, not the sources).
[23:51] <Guest86585> maym problem  chciałbym zainstallować  aitines  pod ubuntu
[23:51] <Arafangi1n> koshari: I doubt that...  More precisely, graphics card.  He's probably played videos perfectly fine on it before in windows.
[23:51] <Flannel> synackfin: Mmm, hold on.  That seems to be giving me issues.
[23:51] <Arafangi1n> koshari: More precisely, graphics driver, rather.
[23:52] <koshari> Arafangi1n could be either, iam guessing a mx2 card would struggle to do that
[23:52] <Flannel> synackfin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/496729/  that goes into your /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:53] <Guest86585> plis code unix
[23:53] <turtle_> soreau : http://pastebin.org/967184
[23:53] <heretic121> edbian, I've tried googling but got nowhere fast, I'll try again. Thanks for you help anyway
[23:54] <edbian> heretic121, Good luck!
[23:54] <steves> I am having a problem with assembling a set of raid drives on a system. Is there someone here who has some experience with mdadm?
[23:54] <heretic121> thank you :)
[23:54] <youtux> hi, can someone help me with my problem?
[23:54] <quant> youtux, perhaps
[23:55] <youtux> quant, can you download mathtex?
[23:55] <quant> youtux, what do you mean by "download mathtex"?
[23:55] <synackfin> Flannel: I copied your sources, but it still gives me an error when trying to apt-get install dialog
[23:55] <youtux> quant, i mean sudo aptitude install mathtex
[23:56] <quant> youtux,  PPA's were down a while back
[23:57] <Flannel> synackfin: after you did that, do `sudo apt-get update`, then try and install
[23:57] <jeff_ranger1> how do you change routers on ubuntu
[23:57] <synackfin> Flannel: ah, now it works
[23:57] <soreau> turtle_: I appears you don't have intltool installed at all. What is the output of apt-get install intltool?
[23:57] <synackfin> Flannel: what package do I need that "hints" what package I should install whenever I type a command that's not in my path?
[23:58] <youtux> quant, doh
[23:58] <steves> I have two raid drives that were on a system that failed badly.  So I am moving them over to a different system to get the drives back online.
[23:58] <Flannel> synackfin: command-not-found
[23:59] <steves> When I try and assemble them I get an error stateing that sdb1 is busy _and_ that the there isn't a supperblock.  Does anyone know how to add drives to a system?
[23:59] <turtle_> soreau: from what i was readin on the net i thought it came pre-installed, its installed now ill try again