[00:47] <Craigwdy2k> Is there an Ubuntu equivalent package for bluez-firmware...?  I'm starting to think that this PC might benefit from it...
[00:53] <Craigwdy2k> If not do I need to add a specific Debian Testing Repo to my /etc/apt/sources.list file in order to get the firmware loaded...?  I just tried doing a very generic Ubuntu package search for bluez & bluez-firmware is no where to be found...
[00:55] <Craigwdy2k> My main goal is to update my HP Integrated Module with Bluetooth Wireless Technology to whatever their latest firmware release is...
[01:13] <adam__> how do I install xubuntu over gnome in Ubuntu 10.04?
[01:14] <Dasleah> just install the xcfe4 packages
[01:14] <Dasleah> log out, and you can change the session at the login screen at the bottom
[01:14] <Dasleah> which is at least what i'm doing :V
[01:14] <Dasleah> *xfce4
[01:15] <adam__> Dasleah: (Sorry I'm a noob) What do you mean by change the session? Do you mean it gives me an option at login?
[01:15] <Dasleah> you'll notice at the login screen, down the bottom
[01:15] <Dasleah> it has like a bar full of options
[01:15] <Dasleah> you'll see one with something like 'GNOME' in it
[01:15] <Dasleah> that's a dropdown list and once you've installed xfce4, you can choose that from there
[01:15] <adam__> So I can have 2 different desktop environments installed, and switch between the two? Niiice.
[01:16] <Dasleah> yep
[01:16] <adam__> XFCE has a right click menu right? Like fluxbox?
[01:16] <Dasleah> well i don't know fluxbox so
[01:16]  * Dasleah shrug
[01:16] <Dasleah> everything should work if it's installed right
[01:17] <adam__> Well, I mean, you can right click on the desktop and it gives you the 'start' menu right there.
[01:17] <Dasleah> oh yeah, it does that
[01:18] <adam__> Right on. That's what fluxbox does. I really like fluxbux but ubuntu doesn't have a fluxbux derivative. Mint does though, but only for x86.
[01:19] <adam__> So installing xfce isn't going to screw up my gnome DE at all, right?
[01:19] <psycho_oreos> it shouldn't if its installed correctly
[01:20] <adam__> Well, I'm stalling from Synaptic package manager so it should install correctly, right?
[01:20] <Dasleah> it should
[01:21] <Dasleah> usual caveats of 'something could always go horribly wrong' apply but i haven't had any issues with it
[01:21] <Dasleah> it'd be worth getting the xfce4-goodies package as well since it's not a straight xubuntu install
[01:22] <Dasleah> adds some nice general tweaks and additions
[01:22] <adam__> I've been watching xubuntu videos on youtube and no one ever shows the fluxbox like Right Click menu - which is one of the coolest features!
[01:23] <psycho_oreos> xfce has similar feature to fluxbox on that matter but its not the exact same
[01:23] <adam__> Dasleah psycho_oreos - Thanks. I appreciate it. Any other suggestions?
[01:23] <Dasleah> none that i can really think of
[01:23] <adam__> psycho_oreos: Do you know how fluxbox and xfce differ?
[01:24] <Dasleah> i only installed this morning myself :V
[01:24] <psycho_oreos> adam__, if you want to get rid of gnome completely, there is a link I could give which may work if you want to transition across to xfce
[01:24] <Dasleah> i wouldn't mind that link myself
[01:24] <adam__> psycho_oreos: mmmm: well, If I decide to do that, I might just reformat, but I wouldn't mind checking out that link anyway.
[01:24] <Dasleah> i'll probably keep gnome just for the rare chance something breaks eventually but you never know
[01:25] <psycho_oreos> adam__, there's a few things, fluxbox has the whole config settings available on right click whereas xfce4 doesn't, fluxbox technically lacks lots of frontend apps which allows one to make up whatever that's needed (at least from what I've experienced in archlinux) and the transparency hack on fluxbox isn't as great as for example on xfce4
[01:25] <psycho_oreos> hang on lemme find that link
[01:26] <psycho_oreos> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[01:27] <Dasleah> thanks
[01:27] <psycho_oreos> nw
[01:28] <psycho_oreos> fluxbox however is lighter than xfce4 imo, it removes lots of deps because it lacks lots of frontend stuff
[01:30] <adam__> psycho_oreos - Yeah, thanks for the link. I acutally like fluxbox look better. I'm sort of sick of panels.
[01:31] <psycho_oreos> adam__, it doesn't stop you from going your own way into compiling fluxbox on ubuntu if needed be :)
[01:31] <adam__> In fact, I would be fine with gnome if I could just get a right click menu and remove my panels. Do you know how to get right click to show the full menu in gnome?
[01:32] <psycho_oreos> nope, I haven't used gnome for quite sometime, but you can do the same in xfce4, just that the aftermath of doing so would be quite nasty
[01:34] <adam__> psycho_oreos: why would it be nasty? Do your really need a panel? Can't you just docky to show open apps? I would be ok with a panel that just had the open windows on it.
[01:35] <psycho_oreos> adam__, well like I said, xfce4 isn't completely panel independent. Although the right click menu it features has some accessibility but it doesn't provide a complete feature to that effect would one not really require panels
[01:37] <psycho_oreos> and no I haven't tried docks on xfce4
[01:37] <adam__> Flux box contains a full menu Applicatoins, Places, System, file manager and other shortcuts. Its really convenient.
[01:38] <psycho_oreos> xfce4 has similar to that but won't get complete access into for example customising the time or the transparency, the window border settings, etc
[01:39] <adam__> CrunchBang is a pretty sweet distro. It used to be based on ubuntu. It uses openbox. Very nice design of the desktop them. Sweet distro that.
[01:39] <psycho_oreos> and accessing to places, file manager for example is a little awkward.. you might be able to customise it but I haven't done so
[01:40] <adam__> psycho_oreos: Mmm. Can you create shortcuts in the 'right click' menu to those things?
[01:40] <psycho_oreos> adam__, I suppose you could but don't quote me on that, I haven't really explored that far :)
[01:41] <psycho_oreos> plus I'm using an older version of xubuntu which has older version of xfce4 to begin with
[01:42] <adam__> psycho_oreos: well. I suppose I don't mind having one panel with a few button on it as long as I get a workable right click menu so that I don't have to drag my courser all the way up into the corner just to open something.
[01:43] <adam__> psycho_oreos: I'm going to try it out anyway.
[01:43] <psycho_oreos> adam__, yeah I see what you mean there, hence your dislike of panels but I personally don't mind using panels for the time being. Hence I have never bothered to making full right click menu accessibility the fluxbox lookalike effect
[01:45] <psycho_oreos> I suppose my day will come once I get a big tv with massive resolution :) but for the time being I just use mouse acceleration/sensitivity to minimise the excessive mouse moving effect
[01:45] <adam__> psycho_oreos: Should I install the Smart Package Manager Plugin for xfce4? Or should I just let Ubuntu gnome handle updates.
[01:46] <psycho_oreos> adam__, that I don't know again :) I suppose it depends on how often you will end up using xfce4
[01:47] <adam__> 131 MB of installations related to xfce
[01:52] <adam__> psycho_oreos: Ok. Done installing. I'm going to restart and play around. =) Thanks!
[01:52] <Dasleah> have fun
[01:53] <psycho_oreos> adam__, enjoy :)
[02:03]  * helpmeob1 waves at everyone! Hello. 
[02:06] <helpmeob1> Does anyone happen to know the appropriate steps to achieve total user deletion? I am currently trying to delete a user off of my laptop running xubuntu, but receive a message stating that the user is not logged off, after running the 'sudo deluser ____' command. Any ideas?
[02:15] <adam__> Well, my suggestion to anyone with a dual monitor set up is that you DON'T install xfce4 along side gnome. because now my dual monitor setup isn't working at all, and I can't figure out why.
[02:17] <adam__> Any suggestions?
[02:18] <adam__> Both of my monitors are set up in Monitor Preferences. My secondary monitor isn't getting a signal.
[02:22] <bazhang> using xrandr?
[02:22] <bazhang> ah he quit
[04:02] <theixle> Is it possible that my dsl modem/router's firewall is preventing me (in ubuntu) from printing to a windows shared printer?
[07:47] <Guest72788> hello. First time in this chat room. Need help with login issue:
[07:50] <Guest72788> changed language setting from english to persian
[07:50] <Guest72788> now I cannot login at all
[07:50] <Guest72788> any idea how I can recover from this?
[07:51] <Dasleah> what do you mean 'cannot login'
[07:52] <Guest72788> The password prompt is starting right to left
[07:53] <Dasleah> type your password in backwards? :V
[07:53] <Dasleah> try changing the keyboard
[07:53] <Guest72788> and when I enter the password I get: Authentication failure
[07:53] <Guest72788> I change from farsi to english but the screen does not change
[07:53] <Guest72788> it stays the same
[07:54] <Dasleah> and it still gives you the auth issue with the changed keyboard?
[07:55] <Guest72788> I assume you mean change keyboard layout. It does not change layout. it stays the same
[07:55] <Dasleah> well the screen may not change no, but still try it anyway
[07:56] <Guest72788> that worked!
[07:56] <Dasleah> hoorah
[07:56] <Guest72788> I feel a bit silly...thank you very much!
[07:57] <Dasleah> no problem
[07:57] <Guest72788> bye
[07:57] <Dasleah> we all make mistakes
[07:57] <Guest72788> i guess i expected the keyboard to go left to right when I changed layout...Now I know better
[07:57] <Guest72788> thanks again.
[07:57] <Dasleah> heh
[08:13] <FusionX> Guys help plz! -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577543
[08:55] <FusionX> i recently installed xubuntu 10.4 using wubi under my windows C: drive (4 GB). Now sometimes after booting up xubuntu, the screen crashes at random times and starts blinking white stripes on half of the screen. And also when xubuntu boots up the logo appears very pixelly and looks as if it is run in safe mode and before the logo appears a quick green color flashes on the screen. My xorg.0.log --> http://pastebin.com/uAy3NS4f . I use Samsung syncmaste
[09:08] <speezaker> hi everyone :)
[09:08] <speezaker> i would need little help plz
[09:09] <knome> !ask | speezaker
[09:09] <knome> FusionX, have you tested the live cd?
[09:09] <FusionX> knome : no
[09:09] <knome> FusionX, i suggest doing that
[09:09] <FusionX> but the earlier version of ubuntu 9.10 i had was working very well
[09:10] <speezaker> i've got this error during boot  Kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0), what can i do ?
[09:13] <speezaker> i installed xubuntu, resolved an error with nvidia drivers, rebooted well and made the updates with the automtic updater (next ot the clock) and the reboot as asked by the updater and got this error
[14:26] <dirty-harry> hi there, anyone here who knows how to activate the desktop-icon-starter-reaction in xubuntu lucid lynx; option "give visual reaction is marked"
[14:40] <Dblthunder> Hello everyone, I need help loading ubuntu, i tried to install to a preset partition formatted with fat 32, says I do not have a root? installed, do I need to load a file into the partition prior to loading ubuntu?
[14:42] <Dblthunder> also I have win  7 64 in a separate partition and a swap partition of 10 gigs formated in ntfs
[14:42] <ToStItOs> Why are updates noted as "not authenticated"?
[14:51] <Sysi> !installing | Dblthunder
[14:51] <Sysi> ToStItOs: what updates?
[14:52] <ToStItOs> updates from update manager
[15:00] <Dblthunder> In setting up a dual boot I created a partition on  gigs formated in fat 32, when I tried to install i chose the option to specify partitions manually, this is when I was unable to load it to the partition because it said some root (something) was missing,
[15:03] <Dblthunder> if this is not the correct forum for this type question, please direct me to the correct forum for english, note: i have been reading for days prior to this, thanks thanks
[15:06] <Sysi> Dblthunder: format at least 6GB partition to ext4 and install xubuntu there
[15:07] <Sysi> mount point " / "
[15:07] <Sysi> ignore " 's
[15:08] <Dblthunder> the partition is  15 gig, I should choose the ext4 option? when picking the partition?
[15:08] <Sysi> yes
[15:08] <Sysi> you really should not install *buntu to fat32 partition
[15:09] <Sysi> ext3 or ext4
[15:09] <Dblthunder> ok, I think I understand, thanks
[16:49] <Dblthunder> Someone helped me earlier today on a dual win 7 Ubuntu installation, sorry I do not remember the person's name but wanted to say thanks, despite this being a tad over my head I was able to load win 7 64 and Ubuntu 64 on machine this weekend, again thanks to who every helped me earlier.
[16:56] <TheSheep> Dblthunder: I think it was Sysi :)
[16:57]  * Sysi pokes TheSheep 
[16:57] <Sysi> c'mon
[16:57] <Dblthunder> Well thanks to sysi!!!
[18:18] <Arpad2> hello
[18:18] <Arpad2> !kb
[18:19] <Arpad2> !k3b
[18:20] <Arpad2> k3b works fine , but after writing dvd and ejecting the disc the pc freezes ,
[18:21] <jarlg> I'm currently running a liveCD - how do I access "Computer" (as in, I see different drives)? Is there a package I must install?
[18:28] <Guest25259> hi
[18:30] <Guest25259> hi
[18:32] <Arpad2> jarlg : i think you have to mount your hard drives
[18:35] <jarlg> Arpad2: Manually, via the terminal+
[18:35] <jarlg> Arpad2: In f.ex. gnome, you can see unmounted drives under nautilus' "Computer"-tab.
[18:38] <Sysi> thunar doesn't have that
[18:38] <Sysi> you could try adding mount plugin to panel
[18:38] <Sysi> !mount
[18:39] <Sysi> also
[18:41] <Anom01y> jarlg,
[18:41] <jarlg> Okay. thanks :)
[18:41] <Anom01y> you there ? I run Nautilus in Xubuntu, however, to prevent it from taking over your desktop you have to run it
[18:42] <Anom01y> like this
[18:42] <Anom01y> nautilus --no-desktop
[18:42] <Anom01y> I also renamed my /usr/bin/nautilus to /usr/bin/nautilus2
[18:42] <Anom01y> so
[18:42] <Anom01y> nautilus2 --no-desktop
[18:42] <Anom01y> (sudo mv /usr/bin/nautilus /usr/bin/nautilus2)
[18:42] <Anom01y> becuase it conflicts with the xfce desktop
[18:43] <Anom01y> and likes to run in the background ect.
[18:43] <Anom01y> I found this method prevents it from doing that
[18:44] <Anom01y> its way better than thunar
[18:44] <Anom01y> and you can get plugins also for it that resize pictures, and send-to menu option
[18:47] <FusionX> Can anyone help me with this problem? --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577543 HELP ME PLEASE!
[18:49] <jarlg> Anom0ly;: thanks :)
[19:05]  * Itsrelative waves at everyone! 'ello.
[20:33] <Name141> does Xubuntu have a min CD also ?
[20:34] <knome> no, the minimal cd is not "branded" at all
[20:34] <knome> since it doesn't install gnome, xfce or kde, it's the same for all.
[20:34] <Name141> OK. So getting the minCD, I would be able to select if I even wanted a GUI, etc?
[20:35] <Name141> Without loads of packages coming along
[20:35] <Name141> right?
[20:35] <knome> Name141, yes, you'll be able to select whatever you want, including xfce.
[20:36] <Name141> knome: Would that be best if I just want to use the machine as a file server?  Or is it possible to remove all the extra junk from a desktop ISO install ?
[20:36] <Name141> (ssh and samba)
[20:36] <knome> Name141, if you're willing to use some time to installing only the bare stuff you need, minimal is probably better. remind you, there's also ubuntu server
[20:37] <Name141> True.  But wouldn't that install extra stuff also? Like apache, etc?
[20:38] <knome> i think you can select whether you want to install apache in the installation of server, but i'm not sure. then again, you could just remove that as well
[20:38] <knome> #ubuntu-server knows better about that :)
[20:38] <Name141> OK
[20:45] <lighta> hi guys, having an issue with my grub. /boot/grub/menu/lst doesn't affect it :(
[20:45] <knome> !grub2
[20:46] <knome> lighta, besides, even if you were using grub 1, it should be /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:47] <lighta> oh right I just write it badly
[20:48] <lighta> ok I saw good config was in cfg but first line was : DO NOT EDIT..
[20:50] <lighta> ok thx knome found all infos, now need edit
[21:07] <freaky[t]> hi all. how can i update xubuntu to the current beta?
[21:11] <CalmDownKidder> Hey :) - anyone got the time/inclination to help a newb out please?
[21:11] <knome> !ask | CalmDownKidder
[21:11] <knome> freaky[t], 'sudo update-manager -d', iirc, but please remember it's not supported/suggested for production machines yet
[21:12] <freaky[t]> thank you
[21:13] <CalmDownKidder> Fair enough - I've just put xubuntu on a Toshiba 1800-354S - the Toshiba website says the native resolution is 1024x768, but on xubuntu I can only seem to get 800x600 max - is there a way to show the full 1024x768 res?
[21:15] <CalmDownKidder> I tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", but this didn't seem to sort it
[23:25] <[Nord]> Hi, a probably easy question for most of you: Where can I access the computer's HDD with Xubuntu Live CD?
[23:32] <[Nord]> noone?
[23:36] <Dasleah> [Nord], let's try some google-fu http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-250165.html
[23:36] <Dasleah> the process should be the same for any Live CD
[23:38] <[Nord]> thanks, What I found was for Ubuntu, and mostly with clicking icons not existing here
[23:38] <Dasleah> well Xubuntu is just Ubuntu with a different front end
[23:39] <Dasleah> if you can find a command-line way to do it, it should work fine
[23:39] <Dasleah> but yeah, just start randomly clicking is always a good start :V
[23:44] <[Nord]> can I damage the ntfs file system with trying to mount it?
[23:46] <[Nord]> yeah, success \o/
[23:47] <Dasleah> hoorah
[23:47] <Dasleah> you shouldn't be able to /damage/ it just by mounting, but after that you can certainly dick with it
[23:47] <Dasleah> usual caveats of 'something could always go horribly wrong' apply of course
[23:57] <[Nord]> thanks for the help
[23:57] <Dasleah> no prob