| stupendousman | Hi everyone ! | 06:40 |
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| stupendousman | I would like to know if my idea on halfbakery http://bit.ly/d5GIVI was found usefull by the team for the new "getting physical" idea | 06:43 |
| stupendousman | I am excited as when posting the idea, I had thought it will take a really long time to get implemented.. and I will be seeing such ideas about 5 years in the future | 06:46 |
| stupendousman | well, implementing itself might not be that difficult, I hadnt expected major OS vendors implementing such ideas as core | 06:47 |
| stupendousman | so integrated into the OS | 06:47 |
| stupendousman | sorry, wrong link http://bit.ly/d5GlVI | 06:49 |
| stupendousman | ayatana seems to be a quiet place | 06:50 |
| stupendo1sman | anybody home? | 09:38 |
| stupendo1sman | when is #ayatana most exciting and active? | 09:43 |
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| klattimer | stupendousman: when stuff is happening | 09:45 |
| klattimer | :) | 09:45 |
| stupendousman | klattimer: and when is that?? Any place I can get notified? | 10:01 |
| klattimer | stupendousman: what are you after? | 10:02 |
| klattimer | a bunch of people are in the us so it gets a little louder after 2/3pm | 10:03 |
| stupendousman | 2/3pm what time? | 10:03 |
| stupendousman | GMT? | 10:04 |
| stupendousman | klattimer: http://bit.ly/d5GlVI is what I am excited about | 10:04 |
| stupendousman | I posted the idea last year and the response made me think that OS guys wills tart thinking about it and we will have it in the next 5 years | 10:05 |
| klattimer | stupendousman: well, is there any code? | 10:05 |
| stupendousman | but looks like its gonna be possible much sooner | 10:05 |
| klattimer | gmt yes | 10:05 |
| stupendousman | nope. no code | 10:05 |
| stupendousman | halfbakery is a brainstorming site | 10:05 |
| klattimer | well, someone's gonna have to write it | 10:05 |
| stupendousman | not a good coder in those matters | 10:06 |
| stupendousman | Well, as you guys have been thinking in similar lines, I thought I pour in mine as well | 10:07 |
| stupendousman | to be honest, I have been feeling like a kid when I saw Ubuntu guys thinking in similar lines | 10:11 |
| Cimi | njpatel: did you test my branch of cairo mislignments? | 10:49 |
| njpatel | Cimi, not yet | 10:51 |
| njpatel | Cimi, did you fix the font colour of the panel text? | 10:52 |
| Cimi | njpatel: already in the menuitem branch | 10:52 |
| njpatel | okay, so it's fixed then, thanks | 10:52 |
| Cimi | I have only few regrets on the window decoration buttons njpatel | 10:54 |
| njpatel | Cimi, will take a look at the fixes branch as soon as i can | 10:54 |
| njpatel | Cimi, what regrets? | 10:54 |
| Cimi | njpatel: they don't look nice without the trough below | 10:54 |
| Cimi | so we can: 1) ship custom window buttons without the dark line around each button | 10:55 |
| njpatel | yeah, but the trough looks weird on the panel :/ | 10:55 |
| Cimi | or add the trough | 10:55 |
| Cimi | chaotic: good morning dude :) | 10:55 |
| njpatel | Cimi, I don't mind custom buttons without such a dark line, but honestly I'm not finding it horrible right now, so it's a nice-to-have | 10:55 |
| chaotic | Cimi: hiya, good morning and how are you? | 10:56 |
| Cimi | chaotic: better :) | 10:56 |
| chaotic | Cimi: that's good | 10:57 |
| Cimi | njpatel: we want the best, we are not satisfied of something in between :) | 10:57 |
| Cimi | chaotic: on friday I have patched unity to refine the style | 10:57 |
| chaotic | Cimi: great | 10:58 |
| Cimi | and now my only doubts are for the window decoration buttons | 10:58 |
| Cimi | chaotic: could you please speak with njpatel 2 mins in order to give him your precious opinion? | 10:58 |
| chaotic | Cimi: sure | 10:58 |
| chaotic | njpatel: hi Neil :) | 10:58 |
| njpatel | About the win decs? | 10:59 |
| njpatel | chaotic, hey dude | 10:59 |
| Cimi | njpatel: sorry, window decoration buttons | 10:59 |
| chaotic | njpatel: hi | 10:59 |
| njpatel | chaotic, also, ChanServ is killing my auto-complete :) | 10:59 |
| Cimi | yeah, otto you should rename yourself in kaotic :D | 11:00 |
| chaotic | njpatel: ha | 11:00 |
| Cimi | njpatel: could you sshot the panel with a maximized window | 11:02 |
| Cimi | ? | 11:02 |
| chaotic | njpatel: are we referring to the window buttons in maxed windows - they look scaled at the moment | 11:02 |
| Cimi | chaotic: I have fixed it on friday | 11:03 |
| njpatel | chaotic, I think cimi fixed that | 11:03 |
| chaotic | Cimi: oh cool | 11:03 |
| chaotic | yeah - best if I can see a sshot I guess | 11:03 |
| njpatel | Cimi, not right now, I'm debugging a crash, sorry | 11:05 |
| stupendousman | what happens to all Ayatana stuff when gnome-shell becomes default in gnome-3.0? | 11:31 |
| Cimi | stupendousman: I'm not the right people to answer, but I don't think it will be so difficult to integrate all the indicator stuff into the panel (or whatever) | 11:35 |
| Cimi | the indicator stuff is quite flexible, if you can see it's easier to integrate an indicator than a statusicon | 11:36 |
| Cimi | at the same time all the windicator stuff will be independent | 11:38 |
| Cimi | and unity is a separate shell, a different solution to gnome 3.0 | 11:39 |
| stupendousman | that does it .. now I am all confused | 11:40 |
| Cimi | confused? :) | 11:40 |
| * stupendousman settles down for some googling session | 11:40 | |
| Cimi | gnome-shell is a "software like the gnome shell" | 11:40 |
| stupendousman | I just heard that gnome-3.0 is gonna have gnome-shell as default, and replaces window manager and panel.. | 11:41 |
| Cimi | indicators are a new solution to gtkstatusicon | 11:41 |
| stupendousman | I come here and find there is somehting called unity | 11:41 |
| Cimi | yeah | 11:41 |
| hyperair | Cimi: i'm actually kinda interested to know what will happen to indicators really. | 11:41 |
| Cimi | but the window manager of gnome-shell is mutter | 11:41 |
| Cimi | hyperair: I bet they will be integrated | 11:41 |
| stupendousman | Cimi: sorry for wasitng time, I am a noob.. will do more homework before I come here | 11:42 |
| stupendousman | I think there should be a write up for people like me who think gnome=gnome-desktop+metactiy/compiz+gnome-panel | 11:42 |
| stupendousman | a dictionary perhaps | 11:43 |
| Cimi | gnome-shell is gnome-shell+mutter | 11:43 |
| Cimi | the shell manages the desktop and it is integrated with the window manager, mutter | 11:43 |
| Cimi | and integrates a panel too | 11:43 |
| Cimi | njpatel: is it easy to reduce the gap between buttons in the panel? | 11:47 |
| Cimi | (win dec) | 11:47 |
| Cimi | I didn't have a look yet | 11:48 |
| njpatel | Cimi, erm, probably, it's either done via padding or set-sizes | 11:48 |
| Cimi | ok because we need to make them closer | 11:48 |
| Cimi | njpatel: do you mind if we include the buttons in unity instead grabbing them from the metacity theme? In that way we could reduce the black frame around each button (chaotic too) | 11:49 |
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| stupendo1sman | so what is the point of having two shells 1) unity 2) gnome-shell .. isnt gnome-shell almost doing the same as unity? | 12:45 |
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| stupendo1sman | or the other way round, I dont mind | 13:02 |
| Cimi | stupendo1sman: gnome-shell is a gnome project, unity is an ubuntu project. | 13:05 |
| Cimi | stupendo1sman: but, they dea with different porpouses | 13:05 |
| klattimer | kenvandine: can you see to it that the two branches merged in this bug are released; https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-application/+bug/569273 | 13:05 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 569273 in Application Indicators "memory leak in gnome-power-manager (affected: 59, heat: 329)" [Medium,In progress] | 13:05 |
| Cimi | stupendo1sman: unity is a shell that works good with small and widescreen devices | 13:06 |
| klattimer | I think the bug can be closed for now too, and a new bug for gtk menu should be opened | 13:06 |
| Cimi | stupendo1sman: gnome-shell doesn't | 13:06 |
| stupendo1sman | Cimi: okie. Finally I get it. though work will be duplicated, they solve different meta problems | 13:11 |
| Cimi | kind of, yeah stupendo1sman | 13:12 |
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| Cimi | didrocks: do you have a roomie for the sprint in orlando? :) | 15:27 |
| klattimer | tedg: is there a way of "hiding" an indicator applet | 15:35 |
| sense | good afternoon | 16:03 |
| didrocks | hey Cimi :) | 16:03 |
| chrisccoulson | hi klattimer | 16:03 |
| chrisccoulson | would you mind having a look at my comment here https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgnomekbd/+bug/630239/comments/16 when you get some spare minutes? | 16:03 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 630239 in libgnomekbd (Ubuntu Maverick) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with signal 5 in gkbd_keyboard_drawing_new_dialog() (affected: 50, heat: 242)" [Medium,Fix released] | 16:03 |
| didrocks | Cimi: I'll be with seb128 as I arrive the week before UDS, I think | 16:03 |
| sense | tedg or someone else: Can you build 'indicator-application'? If so, could you give me the build commands, because I cannot get anything to build on my system except for the unmodified results of 'apt-get source indicator-application'. Everytime I run ./autogen.sh or automake and autoreconf the building fails at the generation of the Mono bindings due to a regex not matching the new_label signal place holder. | 16:05 |
| Cimi | didrocks: ok because I need to find one, and I thought you were free (reading the wiki seb is with martin pitt iirc) | 16:05 |
| didrocks | Cimi: really? let me have a look | 16:06 |
| didrocks | it's always something I look at the last minute :) | 16:06 |
| Cimi | yeah but I was planning it right now :) | 16:07 |
| klattimer | chrisccoulson: yeah sure | 16:10 |
| chrisccoulson | klattimer, thanks | 16:10 |
| klattimer | chrisccoulson: ah, sorry it's an invalid free by the looks of things | 16:11 |
| klattimer | I can take a pop at it now if you like | 16:11 |
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| klattimer | chrisccoulson: do you have a bug report and I'll attach an updated patch | 16:18 |
| klattimer | I think this fixes it | 16:18 |
| klattimer | oh sorry, it was just on one comment | 16:18 |
| chrisccoulson | klattimer, i've not created a bug report for it yet | 16:18 |
| chrisccoulson | the bug report i commented on is unrelated :) | 16:18 |
| klattimer | chrisccoulson: ok I have a new patch | 16:21 |
| klattimer | can I send you it somehow for testing? | 16:21 |
| chrisccoulson | klattimer, yeah, sure | 16:21 |
| klattimer | I'm stuck on gnome-bluetooth atm | 16:21 |
| klattimer | whereto? | 16:21 |
| klattimer | chrisccoulson: ? | 16:22 |
| klattimer | email or what? | 16:22 |
| chrisccoulson | klattimer, yeah, e-mail is fine. chris.coulson@canonical.com | 16:23 |
| klattimer | chrisccoulson: sent | 16:24 |
| klattimer | can you email me back with any issues | 16:24 |
| tedg | sense, I think that you need directhex's branch to get things aligned right. | 16:47 |
| sense | tedg: OK, I'll look into that. Thanks. | 16:48 |
| oskude | yay! unity is pretty awesome, thanks! | 17:27 |
| oskude | is there a way to set the clock to 24h mode ? | 17:31 |
| jcastro | I believe there's a bug report about that somewhere | 17:31 |
| jcastro | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/indicator-datetime/+bug/579134 | 17:32 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 579134 in Ubuntu Translations "The date and time indicator should respect the locale setting for time format (affected: 23, heat: 132)" [High,Triaged] | 17:32 |
| oskude | jcastro: thanks! | 17:34 |
| Cimi | jcastro: I need to be added to the canonical wiki, but I don't have access because I'm not an employee yet | 17:37 |
| Cimi | I will be there from the 19th till the 30th | 17:37 |
| Cimi | my roomie should be DidierRoche | 17:38 |
| Cimi | and the size for my tshirt is M :) | 17:38 |
| jcastro | Cimi: send all that to marianna please | 17:38 |
| jcastro | (just reply all to your mail) | 17:38 |
| Cimi | I was already in contact with marianna, I was talking about the wiki | 17:39 |
| vish | hmm , someone get mpt online! | 18:00 |
| * vish looks around.. who could physically poke mpt! | 18:00 | |
| Cimi | vish: maybe no one | 18:04 |
| vish | yea.. right now , no one seems around from Milbank! ;) | 18:04 |
| sense | Merge request to add the new AppInd API additions to indicator-application has finally been filed: <https://code.launchpad.net/~sense/indicator-application/fix-608219/+merge/36048>. | 19:32 |
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