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micahglifeless: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/12607800:23
lifelesswgrant: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/126078 could you note in there what needs doing to make it trivial for EBUSY losas's :)00:25
wgrantlifeless: Done.00:29
lifelessspm: in your queue, low pri-or-hand-to-your-successor-this-evening00:29
lifelessspm: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/12607800:29
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micahgcan we no longer subscribe people to questions?01:22
lifelessmicahg: I don't recall any changes to stop it01:22
lifelesswhy?01:22
micahgbecuase I can't do it on the above question01:23
* micahg looks for a bug01:25
bdrung_i have a question about launchpadlib: if i have a merge proposal object, how do i get the related distribution?01:26
micahglifeless: bug 20149801:26
ubot5`Launchpad bug 201498 in Launchpad Answers "subscribe someone else to a question in Answers (affected: 1, heat: 12)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20149801:26
* micahg guesses it was never there to being with01:27
lifelessbdrung_: from the target branch01:34
bdrung_lifeless: mergeproposal.target_branch.?01:37
lifelessyeah01:39
bdrung_lifeless: i don't see a distribution link in https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc/1.0.html#branch01:39
bdrung_am i blind or is there a trick?01:39
lifelesswell it won't be to distro01:40
lifelessit will be to distro series01:40
lifelessand it may not be exposed yet01:40
lifelessnope, there it goes01:41
lifelesssourcepackage_link01:41
bdrung_lifeless: mergeproposal.target_branch.sourcepackage.distribution . let's test it01:42
pooliei just got a gpg rejection mail from launchpad01:47
poolieeven though i wasn't asking it to do anything but add a comment01:48
poolieis this a known bug?01:48
lifelesshmm01:48
lifelessit may be; colin watson filed a bug last week on malone01:48
poolieah mine was bug 64317002:13
ubot5`Launchpad bug 643170 in Launchpad Foundations "mail quoting a gpg-signed mail produces "submit request failure" (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64317002:13
pooliemakes sense when you think about it02:14
ajmitchis loggerhead a bit broken today?02:46
lifelessfirst report we've had02:49
lifelesswhy/02:49
ajmitchOOPS-1724CB18402:50
ubot5`https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1724CB18402:50
ajmitchI was probably being bad, since I was opening a series of revisions in a new tab02:50
ajmitchgot an oops on each of them02:50
lifelesstry again02:53
ajmitchstill broke, OOPS-1724CB20402:54
ubot5`https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1724CB20402:54
lifelessspm: can you see of loggerhead has gone south and if so gcore and restrat ?02:56
spmhrm. it seems perfectly fine. doing zip all.02:59
lifelesshmm03:02
lifelessajmitch: what url ?03:02
ajmitchhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/libindicate/trunk/revision/38203:02
lifelesshmm, that should be trivial03:02
lifelessthe OOPS reports aren't showing up in the oops ui03:03
lifelesscould you do me a favour and file a bug about that on launchpad-foundations03:03
wgrant*cough* op issue03:03
lifelesswgrant: *cough* no03:04
ajmitchfile a bug about the OOPS happening, or it not showing up for you?03:04
wgrant:(03:04
lifelesswgrant: and even if it was, we're one project, not two projects.03:05
lifelessajmitch: about it not showing up.03:05
ajmitchok, bug #64318203:06
ubot5`Launchpad bug 643182 in Launchpad Foundations "OOPS report not showing up in the OOPS UI (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64318203:06
ajmitchgiven the number of revisions I tried to view at once, I probably caused some locking to go funny03:07
lifelessits readonly ;)03:08
lifelessthere's clearly also an issue with the branch, but until we can diagnose..03:08
ajmitchI won't pretend to know why it fell over in a screaming heap then :)03:08
micahglifeless: do you have a document explaining why bi-directional linking with upstream is good?06:06
lifelessno idea06:06
lifelessprobably06:06
micahglifeless: Mozilla's asking why they need it06:07
micahgmozilla 59778606:07
ubot5`Mozilla bug 597786 in Bugzilla: Other b.m.o Issues "Ubuntu Launchpad bugspamming b.m.o. Linking to (Ancient|Dupped|Wrong Product) bugs." [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59778606:07
lifelessgmb: ^06:07
* micahg thinks he's subscribed already06:07
lifelessmicahg: you have seen the parallel bug in launchpad, right ?06:07
micahglifeless: yes06:07
lifelessgood good06:07
micahglifeless: but the LP bug seemed a little tamer06:07
lifelessso it allows closer integration06:08
lifelessit breaks down the silo and allows something more like federation06:08
lifelessits new, and there will be tuning steps needed.06:08
lifelessI'm sure there is a spec /wiki page(s) etc06:08
lifelessbut you'll be just as able as I to find them.06:09
lifelessthere are some contentious angles06:09
lifelessone is extra noise (though frankly, if this had happened when the bugs were open, as it would normally, not 2 years later), I don't htink anyone would have thought to complain.06:09
lifelessanother is the proxy effect of non bugzilla users being able to comment via LP06:10
micahglifeless: what if we just added more recent stuff?06:10
lifelessbut see also http://www.salmon-protocol.org/06:10
micahglike w/in the last year?06:10
lifelesswhich would be lovely to migrate to, but LP needs more of an atom/rss model for that to be within reach.06:10
lifelessmicahg: well it should be caught up now.06:10
lifelessbut talk to gmb; the dude knows.06:11
micahglifeless: k, will have to do later if I"m still on or in the morning here06:11
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Eliovirhello08:57
Elioviris there a problem with the translation export to bzr branch ?08:58
Eliovirhttps://answers.launchpad.net/rosetta/+question/12577508:58
dpmhenninge, ^09:03
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henningeEliovir, dpm: jtv will be looking into this.09:45
* jtv waves09:45
Eliovirhenninge: thanks09:46
Eliovirjtv, thanks for finding the bug.09:51
jtvEliovir: I haven't found anything yet… we have the error message, but I'm still looking for what might trigger it.09:52
Eliovir;) it is "in progress"09:52
jtvIt's not directly triggered by translations code, only indirectly.  So the question is now, where exactly.09:52
Eliovirso, good luck/good work!09:53
jtvthanks :)09:53
jtvEliovir: do you happen to know whether the template(s) contain a translation credits message?09:54
jtv(If so, chances are actually that the same error is waiting for us in the translation UI somewhere)09:54
EliovirI'm looking09:55
jtvI'm guessing probably not, but might as well check.09:55
jtvThanks.09:55
Eliovirthe only email address is09:55
Eliovir"Language-Team: eo <translation-team-eo@lists.sourceforge.net>\n"09:55
Eliovirfor example09:56
Eliovirand09:56
Eliovir# FULL NAME <EMAIL@ADDRESS>, 2010.09:56
Eliovirhm, sorry, you told "template"09:56
Eliovir"Last-Translator: FULL NAME <EMAIL@ADDRESS>\n" "Language-Team: LANGUAGE <LL@li.org>\n"09:57
jtvThe translation credits message is a special msgid, typically "translator_credits" or somesuch09:57
jtvThat's where the names and email addresses of the translators are automatically inserted.09:57
jtv(It's not actually translatable in the Launchpad UI, because the "translation" is automatically generated, but it shows up as one of the messages in the template)09:58
Eliovirthe templates do not contain such message09:58
jtvOK09:58
Eliovirthanks for the notice09:58
jtvah-hah10:01
jtvEliovir: I have a suspect, though it's not actually in the Translations code.  I'll go over to #launchpad-dev to see if I can raise anyone to discuss it with.10:02
jtv(If you're interested in Launchpad's internal workings, my suspect is a function called get_contact_email_addresses)10:03
jtvHrm… no, I clear that one of all charges.  Back to searching.10:05
jtvOkay, new suspect… I _think_ this can happen if we have no preferred email address for the branch owner.10:11
ricotzbigjools, hello, i found a build which is stuck - https://edge.launchpad.net/~guido-iodice/+archive/guiodic-testing/+build/195851610:11
bigjoolsricotz: ok thanks, I need to wait for an admin to reset the builder10:12
Eliovirjtv: I have a prefered email-address10:12
jtvEliovir: but you're not the branch owner, are you?  :)  It's owned by a team.10:12
Eliovir;) you're right10:13
jtvThis is a change in the Code app that we developed for this feature.10:13
jtv(We developed the change for this feature, not the entire Code app :)10:13
Eliovirjtv: the team does not have an email address 'No contact email'10:14
jtv'zacly10:14
Eliovirjtv: if you need, I can set an email address10:14
jtvEliovir: if my guess is right, that'll work around the problem for now.10:15
Eliovirjtv: do you want I set an email address or you want to change the code ?10:15
jtvEliovir: I'll change the code, and hopefully that'll fix the problem before tomorrow's run.10:17
Eliovirmany thx10:17
jtvBut in case I don't make it (I need to design a solution together with people in other timezones), it'd still be useful to set a contact address.  If that fixes your problem before I get my fix in, it'll confirm whether this is really the problem you're hitting.10:18
Eliovirjtv: ok, so I set it. I nothing occurs tomorrow, I'll come back to tell it.10:27
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lubosshello11:51
lubossdo you think that you could point me to place where I could find how ubuntu repository work? what's the mechanism behind creating distro files. I have found bunch of tools which can do the work, but very curious which of them uses Ubuntu.11:54
lubossnot distro files, sorry. I mean suites - releases11:54
Odd_BlokeI'd appreciate someone having a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+question/12394812:12
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maxbIs there a CHR person?13:14
maxbIf so, please reassign development focus branch on https://edge.launchpad.net/librsvg/main from lp:~vcs-imports/librsvg/old-svn to lp:~vcs-imports/librsvg/master13:15
bdrung_when will the bzr-builder format 0.3 be supported? i tried to use it, but i got an oops (OOPS-1724ED552)13:19
ubot5`https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1724ED55213:19
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allenapHi maxb :)13:25
maxbHi13:25
allenapmaxb: Done.13:26
maxbAlso, could you public-pastebin bdrung_'s oops?13:26
maxbthanks13:27
allenapmaxb: Is the traceback enough? I'm not sure if there's sensitive information in the rest of the log.13:29
maxbtraceback should be enough to hazard a guess as to the cause13:29
allenapmaxb: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/496992/13:30
maxbbdrung_: So, it looks like a new enough bzr-builder was integrated already, but there's still a check in the Launchpad code which believes 0.2 is the maximum supported.13:34
bdrung_ok13:34
maxbIt would probably be wise to file a bug against launchpad-code to record that, in which case there's a decent chance it can be taken care of for next month's rollout13:34
wgrantmaxb, bdrung_: There's already a branch in progress to support 0.3.13:36
wgrantIt's even approved.13:36
maxbah. I checked for bugs13:36
bdrung_do you have the bug number?13:37
wgrantI don't think there is one.13:38
wgranthttps://code.edge.launchpad.net/~abentley/launchpad/allow-0.3/+merge/3447813:38
bdrung_that links to bug #479705, which has an open launchpad-code task13:43
ubot5`Launchpad bug 479705 in Launchpad Bazaar Integration "merge subdirs (affected: 4, heat: 22)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47970513:43
wgrantAh, I didn't see the -code task.13:44
mgedmin"OOPS reports - lovely" on https://dev.launchpad.net/ArchitectureGuide tickles my curiosity14:07
mgedmindo you have any non-private examples?14:07
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jmlmgedmin, not that I know of.15:05
jmlmgedmin, there might be some pasted on the public mailing list15:05
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james_whey, oopses generate by loggerhead!15:21
jcastroHi, I need help transferring the smuxi superproject to the right person: https://edge.launchpad.net/smuxi15:26
Odd_Blokemaxb: I've worked out the problem at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+question/123948.  Should I now file a bug?15:48
Odd_Blokemaxb: Thanks for all your help, by the way. :)15:48
maxb*blink* That's. Really. Not. Supposed. To. Happen.15:55
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mdeslaurCan someone help me? I've been trying to unembargo a security update for the past two hours, and LP has been OOPSING every single time. ie: OOPS-1724O130616:18
ubot5`https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1724O130616:18
mdeslauror this: OOPS-1724L121816:19
ubot5`https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1724L121816:19
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allenapmdeslaur: That OOPS is not recorded it seems. Can you check that it's correct?17:31
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cjohnstonWhat's up with bazaar.lp.net?17:58
mdeslaurallenap: actually, it's bug #64133817:59
ubot5`Launchpad bug 641338 in Soyuz "timeouts too low for security unembargo (affected: 1, heat: 10)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64133817:59
cjohnstonI'm constantly getting "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server." when trying to look at code on lp18:00
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gege2061Hello18:16
gege2061(sorry for my poor english)18:17
gege2061I have a problem with launchpad: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~valide/valide/trunk/files18:17
gege2061And I can't init a new local repository:18:17
gege2061$ bzr init lp:valide18:18
gege2061bzr: ERROR: Server sent an unexpected error: ('error', "Cannot lock LockDir(lp-100603472:///%2Bbranch/valide/.bzr/branchlock): File exists: u'/srv/bazaar.launchpad.net/mirrors/00/05/bb/f3/.bzr/branch/lock': [Errno 17] File exists: '/srv/bazaar.launchpad.net/mirrors/00/05/bb/f3/.bzr/branch/lock'")18:18
gege2061anyone can help me?18:19
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maxbgege2061: Generally, you do not "bzr init" branches on Launchpad. You initialize a new branch locally, and push it to launchpad once you've got something in the branch18:40
gege2061maxb: indeed, 'bzr branch' is better but doesn't work18:43
maxbWhat are you actually trying to do?18:43
gege2061$ bzr branch lp:valide18:43
gege2061bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~valide-dev/valide/trunk/": location is a repository.18:44
maxbright, so what we have here is a stacking issue. Let me investigate...18:44
gege2061It's probably du to the new team (valide-dev)18:44
gege2061maxb: thank's18:44
maxbyes, combine with a launchpad bug18:44
maxbgege2061: Why is there both ~valide-dev/valide/trunk and ~valide/valide/trunk ? What is the intended end result?18:46
gege2061I don't know, I created a new team for a mailing-list18:47
gege2061~/valide/valide/trunk is the only valid branch18:48
maxbhmm. I wonder what someone did to create that18:49
maxbs/that/the other branch, with this messed up stacking relationship18:49
gege2061strangely my local branche point to ~valide-dev/valide/trunk but I don't ask anything18:55
ahasenackcan I undo a nomination for a release?18:57
maxbahasenack: I don't think so18:57
ahasenackit wasn't acted upon yet, it just says "nominated for maverick by foo"18:57
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maxbgege2061: Ok, so what has happened, is that somehow someone has deleted the branch tip metadata for lp:~valide-dev/valide/trunk, and turned it into a shared repository18:58
jcsackettfreaking internet connection is having issues today.19:01
gege2061maxb: I have an opportunity to correct it?19:02
maxbYes, I'm just trying to figure out how to best describe the process19:02
maxbgege2061: Please could you run "bzr init lp:~valide-dev/valide/trunk" - I am expecting it to error, but have done something useful by the time it errors19:07
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gege2061maxb: bzr: ERROR: Already a branch: "lp:~valide/valide/trunk".19:13
maxbyou did run exactly what I said? ~valide-*dev* not ~valide?19:13
gege2061bzr: ERROR: Already a branch: "lp:~valide-dev/valide/trunk".19:14
maxbgege2061: great, it's improved the situation a bit19:14
maxbgege2061: ok, so next step is to get things to the point where you can delete one of the trunks19:15
maxbFirst, lp:valide/website is marked as sharing storage with it, though it doesn't need to - so run: bzr reconfigure --unstacked lp:valide/website19:16
gege2061maxb: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/%2Bbranch/valide/website/ is now not stacked19:18
maxbgege2061: right, now the same for the other branch: bzr reconfigure --unstacked lp:valide19:21
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gege2061maxb: done19:24
maxbgege2061: Ideally you would now delete ~valide-dev/valide/trunk. However, there's one recipe build attached to it19:25
maxbYou would have to get the owner of the recipe build to delete it first19:26
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AzendaleI'm having problems looking at bzr branches. Is that down for scheduled maintenance or something?19:29
gege2061maxb: On the website, that doesn't work : "This branch cannot be deleted as it has 6  branches sharing revisions."19:30
maxbgege2061: hmm, looking19:31
maxbAzendale: not that I know of, but it breaks often. Can you paste an exact URL that breaks?19:31
gege2061maxb: the command is mut (no message)19:32
maxbgege2061: Could you try "bzr reconfigure --stacked-on=bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~valide/valide/trunk lp:~valide/valide/0.7" ?19:34
maxbAnd if that succeeds, repeat for 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.5.1 0.6.119:35
gege2061ok19:35
gege2061maxb: I have a problem with 0.4 and 0.5:19:38
gege2061bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~valide/valide/main/".19:38
maxbah, I see, stuff has been renamed in the past19:39
maxbgege2061: Could you download this script, the bzr core command doesn't have the necessary options for fixing this alone: http://j.maxb.eu/~maxb/bzr-set-stacked-url.py19:40
maxbYou can then run "./bzr-set-stacked-url.py lp:~valide/valide/0.4 ~valide-dev/valide/trunk", followed by "bzr reconfigure --stacked-on=bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~valide/valide/trunk lp:~valide/valide/0.4"19:41
gege2061ok19:41
Azendalemaxb: I went away from the computer for a couple of minutes and when I retryed it it worked. It was http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk/revision/4378 if you still wanted to know19:44
maxbAzendale: ok. Unfortunately Loggerhead is a little flaky in huge deployments. People are working on it, slowly.19:45
gege2061maxb: bzrlib.errors.PermissionDenied: Permission denied: "Cannot create '~valide-dev'. Only Bazaar branches are allowed."19:46
gege2061it's not rather ~/valide/valide/trunk ?19:47
maxbgege2061: oh whoops, I missed the lp: prefix19:47
gege2061maxb: bzrlib.errors.NotBranchError: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~valide-dev/valide/trunk/": location is a repository.19:48
maxb!19:48
maxbSo somehow lp:~valide-dev/valide/trunk has returned to its earlier broken state19:49
maxbTry "bzr init lp:~valide-dev/valide/trunk" again19:49
gege2061maxb: bzr: ERROR: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~valide-dev/valide/trunk/.bzr/ is not a local path.19:52
maxbgege2061: ok, it says that, but it did what we need it to. Try the "./bzr-set-stacked-url.py lp:~valide/valide/0.4 lp:~valide-dev/valide/trunk", followed by "bzr reconfigure --stacked-on=bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~valide/valide/trunk lp:~valide/valide/0.4" again19:53
gege2061maxb: it's ok now19:56
maxbgege2061: ok, so repeat for 0.5, and then hopefully there will be no branches sharing revisions19:56
gege2061maxb: done19:59
maxbjust to check, try deleting ~valide-dev/valide/trunk again19:59
gege2061maxb: "recipe uses this branch"20:02
maxbok, so you'll have to get in contact with the owner of the recipe. Once they've deleted it, you should be able to finish this tidy-up20:03
gege2061Ok it's an old branch I see this the owner for deletion20:03
gege2061s/this/with/20:04
gege2061maxb: now that work fine, thank you so much for your help!20:07
maxbno problem :-)20:07
gege2061Is my fault? To avoid repeat20:08
maxbI don't think so. Part of it is a Launchpad bug that it doesn't fix the Bazaar-side metadata when it lets you rename a branch with other branches stacked upon it (this is being worked on). But there was also something very weird with the branch becoming not-a-branch20:12
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bsaibes_Is the staging server up?21:55
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