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vishhttp://thorwil.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/folder_challenge_01.png !!!!!!!!10:17
vishconsiderably better than what breathe has right now ;p10:17
thorwilvish: you think so? both are terrible in my eyes now10:18
vishthorwil: well , i said better.. dint say it was good ;p10:18
thorwilfolder icons are dumb anyway, would much prefer to have something along the lines of http://thorwil.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/infolders_01.png10:19
vishthorwil: hmm , not /like/ those , but i get the point..   make *folders* an abstract concept10:20
vishholy! there are 1050+ members subscribed to the mailing list!10:21
darkmatterjust remove folders entirely instead of trying to abstract broken junk10:22
vishthorwil: looks like the list is quite rotten ;p10:22
vishwe have a lot of flies \o/10:23
thorwildarkmatter: doesn't matter much for that concept if it represents folders are any kind of grouping10:23
vishhehe! what is lapo doing there !10:24
thorwilvish: what did you say how many subscribers the list has?15:36
vishthorwil: 1050+15:43
thorwilvish: i think we will reach the point where we must avoid running around in circles, soon now16:07
thorwilvish: so i just send a "what would you like to work on" mail. trying saleel's idea is better than wondering if it would work ... :)16:08
vishthorwil: well.. lets see.. how it goes..16:10
vishhmm , are we thrusting too much at the same time!17:19
vishdoctormo: why are you reluctant to make the dA group part of the artwork team?17:21
vishdoctormo: you did push for having free culture showcase being merged into the dA group right?17:21
doctormoOf course17:22
doctormoBut we haven't talked much about the dA group and how its run. Only about using deviantArt as a technical base.17:22
vishdoctormo: ah the technicalities k..17:22
doctormoI have no problem with the dA group being linked in as part of the greater art team, but dA is a poor collaboration platform IMO.17:23
vishdoctormo: yeah , but how do we get the cchost site to be more permanant?17:23
vishi can get coders to work on setting up a site though.. we need the server :)17:24
doctormovish: It has a server, unless pleia2 objects but I don't think she will.17:32
doctormovish: I'm actually sorting out the codebase now so people can work on fixes for the cchost site.17:32
thorwilif i only knew how to discourage those useless single sentence messages (without that tuning into a meta-discussion, again)17:41
thorwilwell, at least there's enthusiasm :)17:41
vishhehe!17:41
vishone thing I'm not very crazy about it the art-*owl* name..17:42
vishit doesnt sound very official ;)17:42
thorwilcurrently it isn't17:42
thorwilbut something non-obvious can add some charm, in any case17:43
doctormovish: The owl site is the place for learning materials, the dns can be changed.17:45
doctormovish:  for the art site17:45
doctormovish: I'd like to see more activity and maybe some fixes though, much more important than dns name.17:46
vishyep, very true.17:46
vishbut i'm just concerned a bit now , since we are just jumping with _no_ organization in place :s17:46
vishbut lets see at the end of the week how things are.. we are only at day 2 ;)17:48
thorwilvish: sure, but you can't have it all at once. i mean, both activity and organization? outrageous!17:48
thorwili guess a hold-your-horses message might do more harm than good17:49
vishyea.. i dint mean hold your horses..17:49
vishbut if there is no organization , we might just fizz out..17:49
vishso, i think someone needs to keep that in mind as well17:50
thorwilvish: i'm not at all willing to play a team leader solo ...17:52
vishthorwil: well , who crowned you king of the jungle ?   ;p17:53
vishthorwil: its nice to see that people are trying to be pro-active atleast :)17:53
thorwilvish: nobody did. but who keeps referencing me and who used to ask me for feedback many times? ;)17:54
thorwilvish: and "someone" is a warning sign, if it appears in talk regarding leadership and responsibility ;)17:54
vishthorwil: must be an idiot! why would someone ask *you* for feedback! ;)17:54
thorwillol, yeah17:54
* thorwil -> dinner17:57
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doctormovish: It's not no organisation, it's emergent and it's simple, but it's not missing.18:22
vishyea.. i think I'm going to go ahead and add Xubuntu and Edubuntu to the main wiki18:22
doctormothorwil: heh, we could have an art-council quango18:23
vishspoke to highvoltage too , he wants help with edubuntu as well18:23
thorwilback18:38
vishthorwil: lol! a few members unsubscribed since yesterday ;p18:53
thorwil*shrug*18:54
vishwhen i saw it first it was 1058 , now its 105418:56
thorwil3 down from what i saw19:07
vishthorwil: maybe setting up a short wiki of why using wiki is bad? :p19:19
thorwilheh19:20
vishrather than having to explain to everyone every time.. would be much easier?19:20
thorwilvish: we have to forgive j_baer, for he must have edited the wiki so much, he doesn't realize how hard it is, anymore ;)19:22
vishthorwil: lol! i must have mentioned that too! "a huge problem is trivial edits" ;p19:22
thorwilvish: i just send a mail also linking to that design-hub post, before i got yours ...19:22
vishhaha! thorwil must be silly minds think alike too! ;p19:23
thorwilheh19:23
thorwilvish: now how to best answer Kofi?19:24
vishthorwil: i suggest we wait a bit and see all the fishes that bite :)19:24
vishits not that if we have to answer within a couple of days and everything gets done..19:25
vishright now , i'm mainly counting how many people even raise their hands :)19:26
thorwilhmm, right19:30
thorwilmaybe i should check that out, sometime: http://github.com/rclements/Fedora-Design-Collab19:33
vishKofi done has quite some interesting work19:34
thorwilmailed highvoltage, encouraging him to advertise for edubuntu a bit, maybe come up with a briefing for a wallpaper19:45
rrrmanionhello19:47
vishrrrmanion: hi19:50
rrrmanioni want to know how i can apply to contribute towards ubuntu? i want to be involved in the reation of some wallpapers.19:51
vishrrrmanion: sure, any particular derivate in mind? xubuntu or edubuntu?19:52
rrrmanionno, i am just happy to help19:53
vishrrrmanion: awesome! hang tight , we are just beginning to see some voices19:54
vishrrrmanion: in a few days lets get the main teams involved too , and have a theme/direction to work on for the wallppaer19:55
vishrrrmanion: did you see the meerkat request on the mailing list?19:57
rrrmanionno, only just subscribed,19:58
vishrrrmanion: ah , no probs. this is the mail I was referring to: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2010-September/012294.html19:59
rrrmanioni mainly wish to base my contributions on photos if that's ok?20:01
vishrrrmanion: well , are the photos from your collection?20:02
thorwilrrrmanion: sure (as long as it are your photos, or ones with permissive licenses)20:02
thorwilrrrmanion: do you know about http://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntu-artwork/ ?20:03
thorwilrrrmanion: for each release cycle, a few images from that pool are selected, like it happened here: http://design.canonical.com/2010/08/this-week-in-design-27-august-2010/20:05
rrrmanionno, not aware of that, will take a look in a moment, will take a look in a moment, all the photos i'd like to use are my own20:05
thorwilthough this flickr thing is pretty much independent of what we are trying to organize on the list, currently20:06
rrrmanionok, that sounds good though, i thought i might do a series of photos from the UK, for uk users, obviously all landscapes, what do you think20:10
vishrrrmanion: of specific famous buildings? or something more abstract?20:12
vishor places20:12
rrrmanionplaces, for example i already have some of the famous white cliffs of dover, but buidings could be done too20:13
thorwilrrrmanion: do/try whatever seems fun and worthwhile. though if you specifically have users from the uk in mind, you should perhaps contact LoCos ...  i mean, don't rely on people finding your work in that huge pool ... unless it will be outstanding ;)20:14
rrrmanion"LoCos"?20:16
vishrrrmanion: the issue with choosing a popular place would mean very specific to that locale.. so something like that would/might be more appropriate for the local UK team posters20:16
thorwilrrrmanion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams20:16
rrrmanionthanks20:20
thorwilnp20:21
rrrmanionjust waiting for a reply now, seems a bit slower for responses than this channel.20:25
thorwilrrrmanion: response time can easily vary between seconds and hours in one and the same channel20:27
thorwilgood night!21:09
rrrmanionnight people23:00

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