[10:17] http://thorwil.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/folder_challenge_01.png !!!!!!!! [10:17] considerably better than what breathe has right now ;p [10:18] vish: you think so? both are terrible in my eyes now [10:18] thorwil: well , i said better.. dint say it was good ;p [10:19] folder icons are dumb anyway, would much prefer to have something along the lines of http://thorwil.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/infolders_01.png [10:20] thorwil: hmm , not /like/ those , but i get the point.. make *folders* an abstract concept [10:21] holy! there are 1050+ members subscribed to the mailing list! [10:22] just remove folders entirely instead of trying to abstract broken junk [10:22] thorwil: looks like the list is quite rotten ;p [10:23] we have a lot of flies \o/ [10:23] darkmatter: doesn't matter much for that concept if it represents folders are any kind of grouping [10:24] hehe! what is lapo doing there ! [15:36] vish: what did you say how many subscribers the list has? [15:43] thorwil: 1050+ [16:07] vish: i think we will reach the point where we must avoid running around in circles, soon now [16:08] vish: so i just send a "what would you like to work on" mail. trying saleel's idea is better than wondering if it would work ... :) [16:10] thorwil: well.. lets see.. how it goes.. [17:19] hmm , are we thrusting too much at the same time! [17:21] doctormo: why are you reluctant to make the dA group part of the artwork team? [17:21] doctormo: you did push for having free culture showcase being merged into the dA group right? [17:22] Of course [17:22] But we haven't talked much about the dA group and how its run. Only about using deviantArt as a technical base. [17:22] doctormo: ah the technicalities k.. [17:23] I have no problem with the dA group being linked in as part of the greater art team, but dA is a poor collaboration platform IMO. [17:23] doctormo: yeah , but how do we get the cchost site to be more permanant? [17:24] i can get coders to work on setting up a site though.. we need the server :) [17:32] vish: It has a server, unless pleia2 objects but I don't think she will. [17:32] vish: I'm actually sorting out the codebase now so people can work on fixes for the cchost site. [17:41] if i only knew how to discourage those useless single sentence messages (without that tuning into a meta-discussion, again) [17:41] well, at least there's enthusiasm :) [17:41] hehe! [17:42] one thing I'm not very crazy about it the art-*owl* name.. [17:42] it doesnt sound very official ;) [17:42] currently it isn't [17:43] but something non-obvious can add some charm, in any case [17:45] vish: The owl site is the place for learning materials, the dns can be changed. [17:45] vish: for the art site [17:46] vish: I'd like to see more activity and maybe some fixes though, much more important than dns name. [17:46] yep, very true. [17:46] but i'm just concerned a bit now , since we are just jumping with _no_ organization in place :s [17:48] but lets see at the end of the week how things are.. we are only at day 2 ;) [17:48] vish: sure, but you can't have it all at once. i mean, both activity and organization? outrageous! [17:49] i guess a hold-your-horses message might do more harm than good [17:49] yea.. i dint mean hold your horses.. [17:49] but if there is no organization , we might just fizz out.. [17:50] so, i think someone needs to keep that in mind as well [17:52] vish: i'm not at all willing to play a team leader solo ... [17:53] thorwil: well , who crowned you king of the jungle ? ;p [17:53] thorwil: its nice to see that people are trying to be pro-active atleast :) [17:54] vish: nobody did. but who keeps referencing me and who used to ask me for feedback many times? ;) [17:54] vish: and "someone" is a warning sign, if it appears in talk regarding leadership and responsibility ;) [17:54] thorwil: must be an idiot! why would someone ask *you* for feedback! ;) [17:54] lol, yeah [17:57] * thorwil -> dinner === snobby is now known as snubby [18:22] vish: It's not no organisation, it's emergent and it's simple, but it's not missing. [18:22] yea.. i think I'm going to go ahead and add Xubuntu and Edubuntu to the main wiki [18:23] thorwil: heh, we could have an art-council quango [18:23] spoke to highvoltage too , he wants help with edubuntu as well [18:38] back [18:53] thorwil: lol! a few members unsubscribed since yesterday ;p [18:54] *shrug* [18:56] when i saw it first it was 1058 , now its 1054 [19:07] 3 down from what i saw [19:19] thorwil: maybe setting up a short wiki of why using wiki is bad? :p [19:20] heh [19:20] rather than having to explain to everyone every time.. would be much easier? [19:22] vish: we have to forgive j_baer, for he must have edited the wiki so much, he doesn't realize how hard it is, anymore ;) [19:22] thorwil: lol! i must have mentioned that too! "a huge problem is trivial edits" ;p [19:22] vish: i just send a mail also linking to that design-hub post, before i got yours ... [19:23] haha! thorwil must be silly minds think alike too! ;p [19:23] heh [19:24] vish: now how to best answer Kofi? [19:24] thorwil: i suggest we wait a bit and see all the fishes that bite :) [19:25] its not that if we have to answer within a couple of days and everything gets done.. [19:26] right now , i'm mainly counting how many people even raise their hands :) [19:30] hmm, right [19:33] maybe i should check that out, sometime: http://github.com/rclements/Fedora-Design-Collab [19:34] Kofi done has quite some interesting work [19:45] mailed highvoltage, encouraging him to advertise for edubuntu a bit, maybe come up with a briefing for a wallpaper [19:47] hello [19:50] rrrmanion: hi [19:51] i want to know how i can apply to contribute towards ubuntu? i want to be involved in the reation of some wallpapers. [19:52] rrrmanion: sure, any particular derivate in mind? xubuntu or edubuntu? [19:53] no, i am just happy to help [19:54] rrrmanion: awesome! hang tight , we are just beginning to see some voices [19:55] rrrmanion: in a few days lets get the main teams involved too , and have a theme/direction to work on for the wallppaer [19:57] rrrmanion: did you see the meerkat request on the mailing list? [19:58] no, only just subscribed, [19:59] rrrmanion: ah , no probs. this is the mail I was referring to: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2010-September/012294.html [20:01] i mainly wish to base my contributions on photos if that's ok? [20:02] rrrmanion: well , are the photos from your collection? [20:02] rrrmanion: sure (as long as it are your photos, or ones with permissive licenses) [20:03] rrrmanion: do you know about http://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntu-artwork/ ? [20:05] rrrmanion: for each release cycle, a few images from that pool are selected, like it happened here: http://design.canonical.com/2010/08/this-week-in-design-27-august-2010/ [20:05] no, not aware of that, will take a look in a moment, will take a look in a moment, all the photos i'd like to use are my own [20:06] though this flickr thing is pretty much independent of what we are trying to organize on the list, currently [20:10] ok, that sounds good though, i thought i might do a series of photos from the UK, for uk users, obviously all landscapes, what do you think [20:12] rrrmanion: of specific famous buildings? or something more abstract? [20:12] or places [20:13] places, for example i already have some of the famous white cliffs of dover, but buidings could be done too [20:14] rrrmanion: do/try whatever seems fun and worthwhile. though if you specifically have users from the uk in mind, you should perhaps contact LoCos ... i mean, don't rely on people finding your work in that huge pool ... unless it will be outstanding ;) [20:16] "LoCos"? [20:16] rrrmanion: the issue with choosing a popular place would mean very specific to that locale.. so something like that would/might be more appropriate for the local UK team posters [20:16] rrrmanion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams [20:20] thanks [20:21] np [20:25] just waiting for a reply now, seems a bit slower for responses than this channel. [20:27] rrrmanion: response time can easily vary between seconds and hours in one and the same channel [21:09] good night! [23:00] night people