[09:20] <ejat> hi .. may i know what the differ between root device : instance vs ebs ?
[10:05] <progre55> hi guys
[10:05] <progre55> how do you change the availabitily-zone settings?
[10:05] <progre55> for instance, if I want to increase the amount of RAM in the type m1.small
[13:49] <smoser> progre55, they're in the UI
[13:49] <smoser> GUI
[13:50] <progre55> smoser: yep, found it, thanks =)
[13:50] <progre55> forgot to get back here and say I'd found it =)
[13:51] <progre55> smoser: dont you by any chance know how to install sun-java6-jdk from the repos silently, without user interaction?
[13:52] <smoser> yeah. actually.
[13:52] <progre55> cause it asks if I'm willing to accept the user agreement..
[13:52] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/634102
[13:52] <_mup_> Bug #634102: t1.micro EC2 instances hang on reboot <server-mrs> <verification-done> <cloud-init (Ubuntu):Fix Released by smoser> <cloud-init (Ubuntu Lucid):Fix Committed> <cloud-init (Ubuntu Maverick):Fix Released by smoser> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/634102>
[13:52] <_mup_> Bug #634102: t1.micro EC2 instances hang on reboot <server-mrs> <verification-done> <cloud-init (Ubuntu):Fix Released by smoser> <cloud-init (Ubuntu Lucid):Fix Committed> <cloud-init (Ubuntu Maverick):Fix Released by smoser> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/634102>
[13:52] <_mup_> Bug #634102: t1.micro EC2 instances hang on reboot <server-mrs> <verification-done> <cloud-init (Ubuntu):Fix Released by smoser> <cloud-init (Ubuntu Lucid):Fix Committed> <cloud-init (Ubuntu Maverick):Fix Released by smoser> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/634102>
[13:52] <_mup_> Bug #634102: t1.micro EC2 instances hang on reboot <server-mrs> <verification-done> <cloud-init (Ubuntu):Fix Released by smoser> <cloud-init (Ubuntu Lucid):Fix Committed> <cloud-init (Ubuntu Maverick):Fix Released by smoser> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/634102>
[13:52] <smoser> (i wouldn't know if it weren't for that bug)
[13:52] <progre55> hmm.. what's that? )
[13:53] <smoser> oh. wait. wrong bug.
[13:53] <progre55> =)
[13:54] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ec2/+bug/634487
[13:54] <_mup_> Bug #634487: t1.micro instance hangs when installing sun java <ec2-images> <review-request> <linux (Ubuntu):New> <linux-ec2 (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <openjdk-6 (Ubuntu):New> <sun-java6 (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/634487>
[13:54] <_mup_> Bug #634487: t1.micro instance hangs when installing sun java <ec2-images> <review-request> <linux (Ubuntu):New> <linux-ec2 (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <openjdk-6 (Ubuntu):New> <sun-java6 (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/634487>
[13:54] <_mup_> Bug #634487: t1.micro instance hangs when installing sun java <ec2-images> <review-request> <linux (Ubuntu):New> <linux-ec2 (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <openjdk-6 (Ubuntu):New> <sun-java6 (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/634487>
[13:54] <_mup_> Bug #634487: t1.micro instance hangs when installing sun java <ec2-images> <review-request> <linux (Ubuntu):New> <linux-ec2 (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <openjdk-6 (Ubuntu):New> <sun-java6 (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/634487>
[13:54] <progre55> well, I'm not installing it in a micro.. I just want to have a user-data (scirpt) that silently installs the sun-java
[13:55] <smoser> right
[13:55] <smoser> but that bug tells you how.
[13:55] <progre55> but when installing java, it needs user interaction, to accept the certificate
[13:55] <smoser> read it
[13:55] <progre55> oh, okay, thanks
[13:55] <progre55> let me have a look
[13:55] <smoser> in general, you can always do something like this to see:
[13:55] <smoser> apt-get install debconf-utils
[13:55] <smoser> debconf-get-selections > pre.txt
[13:56] <smoser> apt-get install <your-package>
[13:56] <smoser> # answer prompts
[13:56] <smoser> debconf-get-selections > post.txt
[13:56] <smoser> diff -u pre.txt post.txt
[14:02] <progre55> well, actually here is what goes there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/496972/
[14:04] <progre55> smoser: thanks
[14:05] <progre55> smoser: can I just put those options in a file, and then just say "debconf-set-selections file"?
[14:06] <smoser> you can, yes.
[14:07] <smoser> also, cloud-config has support for debconf-set-selections
[14:07] <progre55> what's cloud-config? let me try to run it )
[14:07] <smoser> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/cloud-init/trunk/annotate/head%3A/doc/examples/cloud-config.txt
[14:08] <smoser> you can pass something like that as a user data
[14:08] <smoser> and it will handle having that stuff set up on first boot
[14:09] <progre55> aha, I see
[14:09] <progre55> thanks
[15:01] <progre55> smoser: is it possible to bundle an image from a running instance?
[15:01] <progre55> actually, I think I've seen that somewhere in the uec documentations..
[15:02] <smoser> well, that is euca-bundle-vol
[15:02] <smoser> generally, i really dont like that (the 'un-booting' thing)
[15:02] <smoser> but... it should generally work.
[15:35] <progre55> smoser: how to find out if a CPU is VT compatible?
[15:35] <smoser> kvm-ok
[15:36] <progre55> oh, thanks
[15:38] <progre55> I want to set up a machine for cc AND nc.. and I have one separate machine for nc
[15:39] <progre55> kvm-ok says "INFO: your CPU supports KVM extentions \n INFO: /dev/kvm does not exits \n HINT: sudo modprobe kvm_intel \n KVM acceleration can NOT be used". Can it be used as a node?
[15:40] <smoser> progre55, you have kvm installed there ?
[15:40] <smoser> kvm should modprobe that for you
[15:40] <smoser> i think
[15:40] <progre55> let me modprobe
[15:41] <smoser> if you hvae qemu-kvm installed (which is a dependency of eucalyptus-nc) it will add an init script that will modprobe it for you
[15:41] <smoser> so that won't be an issue. this should work for you
[15:41] <progre55> oh, it says it's been disableb by bios
[15:41] <progre55> let me see what I can find in bios =)
[15:46] <progre55> I'm getting "FATAL: Error inserting kvm_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.32-24-server/kernel/arch/x86/kvm/kvm-intel.ko): Operation not supported" when I modprobe..
[15:47] <progre55> oh, it still says "kvm: disabled by bios"
[16:40] <smoser> progre55, so you booted into bios and poked around ?
[16:43] <progre55> smoser: I cant find the KVM switch in the bios..
[16:43] <progre55> and now trying to update my bios..
[16:43] <progre55> cause some say that the old bios doesnt have the switch, although it supports KVM
[17:13] <progre55> smoser: finally =)
[17:13] <smoser> yeah!
[17:13] <progre55> now I'm setting it up as cc, nc, walrus, and etc )
[17:14] <progre55> well, all the 4 =)
[17:14] <progre55> smoser: and hope I dont have to re-install my separate nc node, right? It will just detect the nc, I hope
[17:18] <smoser> i do not think that the clc will detect the node controller
[17:18] <smoser> but on install of the nc, (from CD) it will see the CLC and ask you if you want to register it
[17:19] <progre55> smoser: but my nc is already installed.. and I'm reinstalling the clc
[17:19] <progre55> will I have to re-install the node controller as well?
[17:20] <smoser> i dont know. you can definitely go through registration again.
[17:20] <smoser> (euca_conf --register-node)
[17:21] <progre55> sure, I'll try that
[17:25] <progre55> smoser: so btw, is there a way to bundle a running instance?
[17:25] <smoser> I answered above: well, that is euca-bundle-vol, generally, i really dont like that (the 'un-booting' thing)
[17:28] <progre55> oh I see
[17:28] <progre55> thanks
[18:00] <progre55> smoser: is it okay to give 3 cpu cores to an instance? I mean, to a type
[18:00] <progre55> or should it better be an even number of cores?
[18:00] <smoser> i really have no idea what would happen.
[18:00] <smoser> if libvirt would even allow it
[18:00] <progre55> well, I have 6 nodes available =)
[18:00] <progre55> I mean, cores
[18:01] <progre55> and wanted to distribute them equally among 2 instances =)
[18:19] <progre55> smoser: well, arright man, thanks a lot for all the support
[18:19] <progre55> my workday is over now =)
[18:19] <smoser> you can over commit your nodes
[18:20] <smoser> on the node controllers
[18:20] <smoser> #MAX_MEM=2048
[18:20] <smoser> #MAX_CORES="2"
[18:20] <smoser> #MAX_DISK="100"
[18:20] <smoser> in /etc/eucalyptus/eucalyptus.conf
[18:20] <progre55> oh
[18:20] <smoser> man eucalyptus.conf
[18:20] <smoser> that setting has to be modified on cores and then 'sudo restart eucalyptus-nc' and it should show up (eventually) in euca-describe-availability-zones verbose
[18:21] <smoser> ie, if you set MAX_CORES=16, it will pretend that that is a 16 way machine
[18:22] <progre55> aha, I see
[18:22] <progre55> thanks
[18:22] <progre55> let me try to set it before I leave )
[18:24] <progre55> smoser: btw, will the running instances be terminated if I restart eucalyptus-nc?
[18:24] <smoser> i *think* no
[18:25] <progre55> well, let me try )
[18:32] <progre55> yep, works
[18:32] <progre55> but the instances were broken.. maybe because they were "pending" but not "running" when I restarted the node controllers =)
[18:32] <progre55> well, I'm off now
[18:32] <progre55> smoser: thanks for all the help again ) take care
[19:04] <kim0> howdy folks .. in the mood to answer some forum questions ? :) check those out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1575971 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1570396
[19:51] <mathiaz> smoser: hi!
[19:51] <smoser> hi
[19:51] <mathiaz> smoser: I've just noticed that tags can be used when starting instances from AWS console
[19:52] <mathiaz> smoser: is that something new?
[19:52] <mathiaz> smoser: are they available from cloud-init?
[19:52] <smoser> it depends what you mean by tags
[19:52] <smoser> http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2010/09/new-amazon-ec2-feature-resource-tagging.html
[19:52] <smoser> is new today
[19:53] <smoser> seriously, though, the console ? mathiaz... we have command line tools :)
[19:54] <mathiaz> smoser: indeed - that's what I saw today *in* the AWS console :)
[19:54] <mathiaz> smoser: I'm just using a different tool ;)
[19:54] <smoser> what support would you tihnk would be in cloud-init ?
[19:57] <mathiaz> smoser: can the tags be accessed?
[19:57] <mathiaz> smoser: for example to put the ssh_key_id in the tag?
[19:58] <smoser> i dont know if the tags can be accessed.
[19:58] <smoser> i dont knwo why you'd want the ssh_key_id in the tag
[20:01] <smoser> mathiaz, note, there were 4 features released today: http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2010/09/new-amazon-ec2-features-resource-tagging-idempotency-filtering.html
[21:44] <CharlieSu> Are there any official UEC imanges that are EBS backed instead of the instance store?
[22:28] <dialtone> hi, it used to be possible to see the user-data script output in /var/log/syslog before cloud-init
[22:28] <dialtone> how can I re-enable that behavior again with cloud-init enabled?
[22:29] <dialtone> from a quick glance it should be possible to obtain that by having the runcmd key in the user-data
[22:30] <dialtone> since it says that the output will appear on console output
[22:55] <dialtone> uhm, that output in that case appears in ec2-get-console-output
[22:55] <dialtone> although it's only the last X lines
[23:54] <dialtone> agh... cloud-init is frustrating :(