/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/09/20/#ubuntu-community-team.txt

highvoltagemoo00:15
Technovikingsuper cow powers!!!00:38
czajkowskimorning03:12
duanedesignmorning cjohnston03:14
duanedesignd'oh03:14
cjohnston:-(03:15
duanedesignevening cjohnston03:15
duanedesign:)03:15
cjohnstonuh huh03:15
cjohnstonnow you will talk to me03:15
cjohnstonlol03:15
cjohnston:-P03:15
duanedesignhaha03:15
duanedesignwell, if i have too :P03:15
duanedesignhow is mr johnston today?03:15
cjohnstonehh03:17
cjohnstonone of them days03:17
cjohnstonready for it to be over03:17
duanedesignahh03:18
* czajkowski is up for the Ca team meeting 03:18
paultagaye03:18
duanedesignCa team?03:19
czajkowskiCAlifornia team03:19
duanedesignah, of course03:20
nigelbmorning03:25
nigelbczajkowski: rather early?03:26
czajkowskijust a tad03:26
nigelb:)03:26
nigelbhighvoltage: heh, a little bit sleepy today ;) ?03:28
duanedesignhey there nigelb03:40
highvoltagenigelb: not really! but have been way too busy for a sunday!03:42
highvoltage(but it is about time for me to go to bed and not pass go)03:42
nigelbhighvoltage: heh busy on sunday sounds like my weekend tooo03:50
nigelbI think I got 2 hours of sleep :(03:50
nigelbI'm going to be fried alive at work today :(03:50
duanedesignnigelb: might have to take a nap at lunch :)03:54
nigelbduanedesign: contemplating working half day03:54
* duanedesign nods03:54
nigelbwell half day is how long I'll run wiith 2 hours of sleep03:55
dpmgood morning everyone!07:56
dpmhi kim0, good morning and welcome back! How were holidays?08:18
kim0dpm: how are you man .. The holidays have been great indeed :)08:20
dpmkim0, I'm well, thanks, glad to hear you had a good time :)08:25
kim0yep .. some much needed relaxing :)08:26
kim0problem now is combating my Inbox :)08:26
dpm:)08:33
vishhighvoltage: around?08:36
czajkowskialoha09:26
czajkowskivish: it's like 4:26 where highvoltage is09:26
vishczajkowski: oh! lets keep pinging him then ;)09:27
duanedesignmorning all11:37
popeyYo!11:46
highvoltagehey vish  (and czajkowski was spot on)12:25
* nigelb yawns and waves12:39
* highvoltage waves back12:41
nigelbmorning highvoltage, duanedesign, and popey :)12:41
czajkowskihows folks today12:43
vishhighvoltage: hey.. wanted to ask about the edubuntu artwork.. :)13:01
highvoltagevish: fire away! we'll certainly be looking for a new default wallpaper for 11.04, and also some othe contributed ones13:16
vishhighvoltage: cool! and what are the icons you want updated in Breathe.. ? [it might very well be one of the icons i had done ;p ]13:17
highvoltagevish: in particular, there are a few ones with a lot of brown in them, like the show desktop icon. we've had some feedback on the notification are icons... we've had some reports that people like the monochromatic theme of ubuntu's default13:19
highvoltagenot so much for the monochrome part, but for the consistency part13:19
highvoltageso I was wondering whether some new notification area icons that fit better would be a good idea (I know that's a lot of work)13:20
vishhighvoltage: ah , you could just use the ubuntu-mono , and have it fallback to breathe13:20
vishright now ,ubuntu-mono fallsback to Humanity13:20
highvoltagevish: ah. well, that could work. I'd like real breathe icons for that though.13:21
nigelbget a room! :p13:21
highvoltage(as in, probably not completely monochromatic)13:21
* nigelb has been wanting to say that on IRC for soooo long. Finally!13:22
nigelbhaha13:22
vishhighvoltage: ah! we did try to work on that , but that might be a bit more easier when gnome3 lands13:22
vishhighvoltage: right now ,we have to have two themes one for dark panel and one for light... but when symbolic icons land , we can do them in the same theme13:22
highvoltagevish: ah, cool. I need to read up a bit on that :)13:23
highvoltagenigelb: :)13:23
vishhighvoltage: cool, so I'd add you folk in "help welcomed" section ? ;)13:24
highvoltagevish: yep!13:24
highvoltagevish: just caught up with -artwork and saw Thorwil's e-mail, I do think that the theme needs to change somewhat... but at least not to the degree where it won't be Breathe anymore13:29
vishcool.13:31
JanChttp://www.osor.eu/news/be-political-party-moving-to-a-complete-open-source-desktop  ☺15:07
jonohi all15:39
nigelbhi jono :)15:39
AlanBello/15:40
popeyo/15:40
kim0o/15:40
visho/15:40
AlanBelljono: http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk/15:41
czajkowskiAlanBell: only showing the 30 again...15:41
AlanBellyeah, it should15:42
czajkowskiok15:42
nigelbthat's how its supposed to work15:42
PendulumAlanBell: it has a dirty word in it.... Vista15:42
AlanBellI only made it huge when looking for more words15:42
nigelbPendulum: +115:42
popeyAlanBell: are apple and microsoft on the list?15:42
AlanBellPendulum: maybe I should change that to Windows 715:43
AlanBellpopey: keep refreshing15:43
popeyheh15:43
popeyAlanBell: process, thread, pegatron, freescale, magical, dont panic,15:45
popeyor do you have enough words now?15:45
AlanBelldon't panic is a good one15:45
czajkowskiAlanBell: OMG!15:45
popeyheh15:45
popeyI think that was a suggestion, not an exclamation15:46
czajkowskipopey: ello my dear15:46
popeyAlanBell: governance?15:46
vishAlanBell: i dont think "dont panic" would come up in marks's , maybe robbiew's ;)15:46
nigelbpopey: I see that15:46
vishoh that was for popey ^ :)15:46
nigelbAlanBell: are you adding words very fast?15:46
nigelbI just saw OMG!15:46
vishAlanBell might be just tricking us all into getting drunk at the same time :p15:47
popeyAlanBell: OEM?15:47
nigelbDell15:47
czajkowskiTouch screen devices15:47
nigelbmultitouch15:47
AlanBellyeah, "don't panic" probably won't come up15:47
PiciARM15:47
czajkowskithats teh word15:47
AlanBellall in!15:47
Picioh, thats already there.15:47
nigelbAlanBell: branding?15:47
vishdamn Pici beat me to it! ARM for sure!!!!!15:47
nigelblinaro!15:48
popeyAlanBell: floccinaucinihilipilification15:48
vishlol!15:48
PiciIs LoCo in there?15:48
popeyhahah, he added it :)15:49
czajkowskiCOMMUNITY!15:49
* AlanBell adds "if address==popey.com include floccinaucinihilipilification" code15:49
popey:)15:49
* popey wonders if AlanBell is tailing his logs15:49
AlanBellcommunity is word #315:49
vishDesktop!15:50
nigelbAlanBell: zareason15:50
czajkowskiCAnonical is for me15:50
czajkowskior Slick15:50
czajkowskidepends if you go across or down15:50
AlanBelllet me just show you the full list15:50
PiciGood idea.15:51
nigelbyeah15:51
nigelbBest thing to do15:51
vish:D15:51
AlanBellit is still random, community is #3 in the array that it randomises15:51
nigelbAlanBell: Red Hat, fedora,15:51
vishlol! windicator! no way. ;)15:51
nigelbsound notification menu15:52
nigelb(or is it indicator?)15:52
AlanBellpulse audio15:53
highvoltagemoo2all15:53
Picipackaging15:53
vishlaunchpad!15:53
nigelbon that node, bzr and git15:54
nigelb*note15:54
czajkowskinot really in the speach though15:54
nigelbBTRFS15:54
vishnigelb: thats for keybuck :)15:54
nigelbvish: hrm, true, mark doesn't go too much into low level15:55
nigelbkernel!!!15:55
AlanBellbazaar might be mentioned15:55
nigelbhow can we not have that15:55
jcastrowho made that bingo board AlanBell?15:55
jcastropure genious15:55
Pici'burndown' or 'burndown chart'15:55
AlanBelljcastro: me15:55
nigelbjcastro: AlanBell ;)15:55
AlanBelljust for that /me adds "Castro"15:56
AlanBellok, seen enough of the big board now?15:56
popeyhang on15:57
nigelbchasm?15:57
nigelbIRC?15:57
popeyscott should be in there15:57
nigelbheh15:57
vishrobbie15:57
popeysurprised chasm isnt in there15:57
nigelbalso, grandma15:57
vishoh did i miss the full list AlanBell mentioned?15:58
nigelbvish: refresh15:58
AlanBellchasm is there15:58
nigelbPPA15:58
vishgnome-shell15:58
nigelbfork15:59
nigelbhow can open source *not* be there :p15:59
vishAlanBell: does he use bacon rather jon-o?16:00
vishuse bacon in the sense, "refer to as" not use in bread ;p16:01
nigelbhaha16:01
* nigelb remembers something about jono and shoes in style from last time16:01
nigelblingering memory16:01
nigelbderivates, userbase, *linux*, distro16:02
czajkowskiflip flops16:02
nigelbAlanBell: ^^16:02
nigelb(not flip flops, above that)16:02
nigelbczajkowski: ta, exactly.16:02
nigelbAlanBell: did we kill it? :p16:02
sensegood afternoon16:03
nigelbsense: afternoon :)16:03
nigelbAlanBell: florida (well, duh)16:03
nigelbpython?16:03
AlanBellnigelb: I killed it (missed a comma)16:04
nigelbAlanBell: haha16:04
sensehi nigelb16:05
AlanBellright, I think that is enough16:05
AlanBelljcastro: of course it means that it is now doubly essential that the icecast server is set up in time for the keynote16:07
nigelbheh, totally agree16:07
nigelbAlanBell: Note:  Last time it was set up, wrong room advertized16:08
AlanBellanyone want to throw together a few lines of javascript so that when you click on a <td> it sets a class to highlighted or something16:09
paultag_I have that written AlanBell16:10
paultag_AlanBell: sec, let me get you the git branch16:10
AlanBellgreat16:10
paultag_AlanBell: http://github.com/whube/whube/blob/master/libs/js/tablehover.js16:10
paultag_AlanBell: depends on jQuery, it should be easy enough to change16:11
AlanBellcool, I will do that at some point16:13
nigelbAlanBell: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/497058/16:14
nigelberr, wait16:14
paultag_nigelb: that won't remove it, see my snippet :)16:14
paultag_AlanBell: aye, let me know how it goes :)16:14
AlanBellnigelb: that needs jquery too doesn't it16:14
paultag_yup AlanBell. Just change it to an onHover16:14
nigelbAlanBell: you want simple javascript?16:15
nigelbpaultag_: he wanted on clicky16:15
paultag_Oh16:15
paultag_well then my code is wrong16:15
AlanBellI was thinking simple javascript (and yes, on click and it doesn't need to remove it)16:15
AlanBellbut jquery is OK16:15
paultag_OK, then I'm wrong. Ignore my sample :)16:15
nigelbAlanBell: then http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/497059/ should work16:16
nigelbpaultag_: what do you think? ^^16:16
paultag_nigelb: that works, but it needs jQuery, but it's correct :)16:16
nigelbpaultag_: meh, everyone's lazy to write normal javascript now16:16
paultag_nigelb: aye16:16
* nigelb uses jquery for almost everything16:16
nigelbok, back to work.  I need to go home before its too late16:17
AlanBellyou use google hosted jquery?16:17
nigelbAlanBell: self hosted16:17
paultag_AlanBell: I usually have my webapp wget it, just incase it's placed behind a firewall or something16:17
paultag_webapps *16:17
nigelbsometimes, I develop offline, don't like depending on a webserver16:17
paultag_aye nigelb16:17
nigelbs/webserver/external server16:18
paultag_nigelb: you don't need a server :P16:18
paultag_nigelb: if you're just doing jQuery + HTML16:18
nigelbpaultag_: gah, I meant to say, I din't want to depend on google for develping on jquery - especially when offline16:18
paultag_nigelb: :)16:19
paultag_righto, back to work16:19
paultag_God, I can not find any documentation for gstreamer. I think I'll need to spend a week doing the stumble blindly thing. :(16:39
sensepaultag: Search in Synaptic for packages with 'gstreamer doc' in their names?16:41
paultag_sense: thanks :)16:42
senseYou're most welcome!16:42
popey\o/ community16:43
senseyay for community!16:44
paultag_mmhum!16:44
paultag_I'm still going to do a hello world post on it16:44
paultag_All I want to do is output a simple sine wave :(16:44
paultag_Oh well! Time to hack!16:47
jonodpm, all set for the strat review?17:01
dpmjono, yes, mumble or skype?17:01
jonoskype please17:01
dpmok, logging in...17:01
dpmjono, ready to roll17:02
duanedesigndoctormo: ping17:32
doctormoduanedesign: pong17:33
duanedesigndoctormo: hello!17:33
doctormo:-)17:33
duanedesignI was booking my flight and wanted to make sure it was OK to get there Sunday?17:34
doctormoduanedesign: Yes17:35
doctormoduanedesign: We should be putting our names down on the wiki here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-N/Attendees But no one else has so I'm worried.17:36
doctormojcastro: Do we have a wiki page for UDS-N and is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-N it?17:37
jcastrowe do17:37
jcastrofixed it this weekend17:38
jcastroand your page is now listed17:38
duanedesigndoctormo: i saw their was a shuttle company that runs a shuttle between the airport and hotel17:38
duanedesignthe bus system only gets 1.5 miles from the hotel. a bit of a walk but cheap cheap cheap :)17:39
doctormoduanedesign: There will be organised transport to and from the hotel, that's what the wiki page is going to help with.17:44
doctormoThanks jcastro :-) Very kind.17:44
duanedesigndoctormo: ill add my info before the end of the day17:45
dpmhave a good rest of the day everyone, see you tomorrow!18:12
duanedesignoff for a bit, everyone have a great afternoon18:28
jcastrojono: ~25 minutes until our call?18:36
jonojcastro, yup18:36
jonojcastro, I have plans for you, Castro18:36
senseWas the Ubuntu-Debian IRC channel #ubuntu-debian or #debian-ubuntu?18:36
jcastroit's ok, finished off my "plans I want to do that will get overrun."18:37
cjohnstonuh oh... lol18:37
cjohnstond-u sense18:37
jcastrosense: I dunno I always mix them up, let me know which one. :)18:37
cjohnstond-u jcastro18:37
senseI'll check and report back!18:37
sense-ChanServ- [#debian-ubuntu] www.debuntu.com18:37
sense-ChanServ- [#ubuntu-debian] The place to discuss Getting the most out of the Debian *and* Ubuntu is #debian-ubuntu on irc.oftc.net18:37
senseI think I'll go to OFTC. ;) The other two channels on Freenode have 3 and 2 users.18:38
jcastroI thought they were supposed to be linked?18:38
jcastrothey are supposed to be18:38
sensejcastro: I can just confirm that #ubuntu-debian on Freenode is empty and just contains a reference to the #debian-ubuntu channel at OFTC, which is the correct one.18:40
jcastroI am 90% sure they are supposed to be connected because I used to connect all the time and I never even set up OFTC in my client18:42
jcastroalso, welcome back sense18:42
sensethx jcastro :)18:42
vishjcastro: hey , no one seems to be able to reproduce the tomboy bug! :s18:43
vishor oh! sense might just be able to ;)18:43
senseWhat bug?18:44
jcastrovish: if that bug was reproduceable we'd be flooded by now I think18:44
vishyea.18:44
senseI am mangling with libappindicator-cil right now, my manginling includes bumping the assembly version, so I'm not sure how representative my test results would be. :)18:44
jcastroI use it extensively and on my 3 machines it all works. ken and karl can't reproduce it18:44
vishsense: 62774418:44
sensethx18:45
jcastrosense: did you see directhex's commit message?18:45
jcastrototally awesome18:45
jcastroer, merge request18:45
sensejcastro: Yeah, at long last something that solves the mess.18:45
jcastrodirecthex has proposed merging lp:~directhex/indicator-application/gapi_is_a_pile_of_shit into lp:indicator-application.18:45
jcastrohah, awesome18:45
vishhehe!18:45
senseIt truly is crap, so some extent.18:46
senseHalf of it are tedious Perl scripts.18:46
senseWith very long regexes.18:46
paultaghahahaha!18:46
paultagjcastro, that rules so hard18:46
paultagThat man needs a beer18:46
sensejcastro: Remember the time it took to write Banshee.AppIndicator? That was GAPI2 making me scream.18:46
jcastrosense: speaking of, the mpris/soundmenu bits are working awesome for me now18:47
sensejcastro: Yeah, Bertrand and Conor really did an awesome job there.18:48
senseI wasn't involved!18:48
senseThe GobjectIntrospection wiki page of GNOME Live! has been listening Mono as one of the possible things where it could be used, but unfortunately the guys behind Gtk# want to use their own parser.18:50
jcastrojono: skype or mumble?18:59
jonojcastro, Skype please19:01
jcastrook all set19:01
highvoltagehave you guys tried big blue button?19:40
jcastronot yet19:43
jcastrois it awesome?19:43
paultagjcastro, what-his-name was telling us about it19:53
czajkowskialoha20:24
jcastrojono: is the youtube channel on a rebranding list somewhere?20:26
jcastroit's still orange/yellow city20:26
sensehi czajkowski!20:27
czajkowskisense: hey there how are you20:32
senseczajkowski: I'm doing fine. Happy that direxthex managed to crush the GAPI problems I've been suffering from for so long. :) How are you?20:33
czajkowskintb, going to bed early tonight KNACKERED20:33
senseSmart plan20:34
czajkowskiaye20:35
highvoltagejcastro: it's quite nice, it's like an open-sourcy web-exy thingy. we have one runnin on http://bbb.revolutionlinux.com if you want to try it out21:02
highvoltagegoodnight czajkowski21:02
jcastrothanks, maybe at the end o the week when I can free up some time21:03
czajkowskisense: tomorrow poke me re team re appaovals21:03
jcastrohave you moved there yet?21:03
* czajkowski is going to bed 21:03
czajkowskiwake me under pain of death folks :)21:03
senseczajkowski: sleep well21:04
senseI'm going off as well, see you guys!21:18
jcastro<--- 5 minute EOD warning, last chance if you need anything today!21:55
* cjohnston needs all sorts of stuff today jcastro ;-)22:21
nhandlerjono: If you get a chance, could you possibly approve my join request for ~lernid-devs ?22:29
jononhandler, I am not involved in Lernid anymore22:30
jonoand haven't been for a year22:30
jononhandler, you should mail mbudde22:30
nhandlerjono: He has gone MIA. We are basically trying to get it somewhat usable again22:30
jononhandler, has he?22:30
nhandlerjono: At least according to nickserv, last seen nearly 5 weeks ago22:31
jonohmmm22:31
jononhandler, approved22:31
nhandlerThanks jono. jcastro will be glad to not need to deal with our merge requests anymore ;)22:31
jono:)22:32
jonothanks, pal!22:32
jcastroanyone know where IS hangs out on irc?23:05
nhandlerYou can find channels about a certain topic by using alis: /msg alis list *TOPIC* list *canonical*23:07
nhandlerErr, sorry about that, but #canonical-isd is what you want23:07
* nhandler should change that alias23:07
AlanBelljono: s/Away/Await/ in your blog post23:15
jonoAlanBell, ahhh thanks23:15
jcastroit's #canonical-sysadmin23:24
paultagjcastro, dude, we're getting some rough kick-back on domain issues with locos23:26
jcastrook so let's back up23:26
paultagjcastro, is there any way we can find a way to get us hooked up to a person at canonical who can deal with some of this stuff?23:26
jcastrofirst off, who registers the loco domains?23:26
jcastrocanonical, or the loco?23:26
paultagjcastro, would you mind joining us in -lococouncil to talk with the guy who's having issues?23:26
jcastroddorda?23:27
jcastroyes23:27
jcastrohe's been pinging me all day23:27
paultagjcastro, thanks man, let me send you an invite, let's get this resolved and off our plates :)23:27
jcastroand I am still trying to understand what the problem is23:27
jcastropopey: you're not on ignore23:41
jcastroi've been trying to find out the problem /all day/23:41
paultagjcastro, ugh, sorry man23:44
jcastrohah23:44
jcastroit's ok23:44
jcastroI thought he just wanted some juice on his RT tickets23:45
jcastroI didn't know they were just arguing over the domain23:45
jcastropaultag: ok dinner for me, if something actionable comes out of this then just mail me whatever task23:45
paultagjcastro, OK. Have a nice night :)23:45
jcastropaultag: at first I was like "ugh, illinois, I swear..."23:46
paultagjcastro, hahahaha!23:46
jcastronow I see it's a totally different country. :p23:46
paultagjcastro, Me too, It took me a few minutes to work it out as well23:47
paultagjcastro, this has been going on for like 2 years :/23:47
jcastrothank god for popey23:47
paultagjcastro, +123:47
jcastroI know23:47
paultagjcastro, get out of here, you said you were going to dinner23:47
popeyheh23:47
jcastropaultag: wait, just one more question23:48
jcastroif it's been like 2 years23:48
jcastrooh, nm.23:48
paultagjcastro, its a real lame situation, the dudes even threatened Ddor in real life -- they're in the IDF23:48
jcastro!23:49
paultagjcastro, yeah, you don't want to get involved with this, we've been working to try and take care of it on the LC level23:50
paultagAlright, well I've got to run to work23:50
paultagjcastro, get to dinner, we can chat later if you still have questions ( or popey ;) )23:50
nhandlerjcastro: Sorry about that. I wasn't sure what exactly you were looking for23:50
jcastroman dude23:52
jcastroI would just tell the guy to register something else and drop it23:52
macoNo manual entry for dude23:52
jcastrobut then again, threat of physical violence is totally unacceptable23:52
nhandlermaco: There might not be a man dude, but there is a man man ;)23:55

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