[00:15] moo [00:38] super cow powers!!! [03:12] morning [03:14] morning cjohnston [03:14] d'oh [03:15] :-( [03:15] evening cjohnston [03:15] :) [03:15] uh huh [03:15] now you will talk to me [03:15] lol [03:15] :-P [03:15] haha [03:15] well, if i have too :P [03:15] how is mr johnston today? [03:17] ehh [03:17] one of them days [03:17] ready for it to be over [03:18] ahh [03:18] * czajkowski is up for the Ca team meeting [03:18] aye [03:19] Ca team? [03:19] CAlifornia team [03:20] ah, of course [03:25] morning [03:26] czajkowski: rather early? [03:26] just a tad [03:26] :) [03:28] highvoltage: heh, a little bit sleepy today ;) ? [03:40] hey there nigelb [03:42] nigelb: not really! but have been way too busy for a sunday! [03:42] (but it is about time for me to go to bed and not pass go) [03:50] highvoltage: heh busy on sunday sounds like my weekend tooo [03:50] I think I got 2 hours of sleep :( [03:50] I'm going to be fried alive at work today :( [03:54] nigelb: might have to take a nap at lunch :) [03:54] duanedesign: contemplating working half day [03:54] * duanedesign nods [03:55] well half day is how long I'll run wiith 2 hours of sleep [07:56] good morning everyone! [08:18] hi kim0, good morning and welcome back! How were holidays? [08:20] dpm: how are you man .. The holidays have been great indeed :) [08:25] kim0, I'm well, thanks, glad to hear you had a good time :) [08:26] yep .. some much needed relaxing :) [08:26] problem now is combating my Inbox :) [08:33] :) [08:36] highvoltage: around? [09:26] aloha [09:26] vish: it's like 4:26 where highvoltage is [09:27] czajkowski: oh! lets keep pinging him then ;) [11:37] morning all [11:46] Yo! [12:25] hey vish (and czajkowski was spot on) [12:39] * nigelb yawns and waves [12:41] * highvoltage waves back [12:41] morning highvoltage, duanedesign, and popey :) [12:43] hows folks today [13:01] highvoltage: hey.. wanted to ask about the edubuntu artwork.. :) [13:16] vish: fire away! we'll certainly be looking for a new default wallpaper for 11.04, and also some othe contributed ones [13:17] highvoltage: cool! and what are the icons you want updated in Breathe.. ? [it might very well be one of the icons i had done ;p ] [13:19] vish: in particular, there are a few ones with a lot of brown in them, like the show desktop icon. we've had some feedback on the notification are icons... we've had some reports that people like the monochromatic theme of ubuntu's default [13:19] not so much for the monochrome part, but for the consistency part [13:20] so I was wondering whether some new notification area icons that fit better would be a good idea (I know that's a lot of work) [13:20] highvoltage: ah , you could just use the ubuntu-mono , and have it fallback to breathe [13:20] right now ,ubuntu-mono fallsback to Humanity [13:21] vish: ah. well, that could work. I'd like real breathe icons for that though. [13:21] get a room! :p [13:21] (as in, probably not completely monochromatic) [13:22] * nigelb has been wanting to say that on IRC for soooo long. Finally! [13:22] haha [13:22] highvoltage: ah! we did try to work on that , but that might be a bit more easier when gnome3 lands [13:22] highvoltage: right now ,we have to have two themes one for dark panel and one for light... but when symbolic icons land , we can do them in the same theme [13:23] vish: ah, cool. I need to read up a bit on that :) [13:23] nigelb: :) [13:24] highvoltage: cool, so I'd add you folk in "help welcomed" section ? ;) [13:24] vish: yep! [13:29] vish: just caught up with -artwork and saw Thorwil's e-mail, I do think that the theme needs to change somewhat... but at least not to the degree where it won't be Breathe anymore [13:31] cool. [15:07] http://www.osor.eu/news/be-political-party-moving-to-a-complete-open-source-desktop ☺ [15:39] hi all [15:39] hi jono :) [15:40] o/ [15:40] o/ [15:40] o/ [15:40] o/ [15:41] jono: http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk/ [15:41] AlanBell: only showing the 30 again... [15:42] yeah, it should [15:42] ok [15:42] that's how its supposed to work [15:42] AlanBell: it has a dirty word in it.... Vista [15:42] I only made it huge when looking for more words [15:42] Pendulum: +1 [15:42] AlanBell: are apple and microsoft on the list? [15:43] Pendulum: maybe I should change that to Windows 7 [15:43] popey: keep refreshing [15:43] heh [15:45] AlanBell: process, thread, pegatron, freescale, magical, dont panic, [15:45] or do you have enough words now? [15:45] don't panic is a good one [15:45] AlanBell: OMG! [15:45] heh [15:46] I think that was a suggestion, not an exclamation [15:46] popey: ello my dear [15:46] AlanBell: governance? [15:46] AlanBell: i dont think "dont panic" would come up in marks's , maybe robbiew's ;) [15:46] popey: I see that [15:46] oh that was for popey ^ :) [15:46] AlanBell: are you adding words very fast? [15:46] I just saw OMG! [15:47] AlanBell might be just tricking us all into getting drunk at the same time :p [15:47] AlanBell: OEM? [15:47] Dell [15:47] Touch screen devices [15:47] multitouch [15:47] yeah, "don't panic" probably won't come up [15:47] ARM [15:47] thats teh word [15:47] all in! [15:47] oh, thats already there. [15:47] AlanBell: branding? [15:47] damn Pici beat me to it! ARM for sure!!!!! [15:48] linaro! [15:48] AlanBell: floccinaucinihilipilification [15:48] lol! [15:48] Is LoCo in there? [15:49] hahah, he added it :) [15:49] COMMUNITY! [15:49] * AlanBell adds "if address==popey.com include floccinaucinihilipilification" code [15:49] :) [15:49] * popey wonders if AlanBell is tailing his logs [15:49] community is word #3 [15:50] Desktop! [15:50] AlanBell: zareason [15:50] CAnonical is for me [15:50] or Slick [15:50] depends if you go across or down [15:50] let me just show you the full list [15:51] Good idea. [15:51] yeah [15:51] Best thing to do [15:51] :D [15:51] it is still random, community is #3 in the array that it randomises [15:51] AlanBell: Red Hat, fedora, [15:51] lol! windicator! no way. ;) [15:52] sound notification menu [15:52] (or is it indicator?) [15:53] pulse audio [15:53] moo2all [15:53] packaging [15:53] launchpad! [15:54] on that node, bzr and git [15:54] *note [15:54] not really in the speach though [15:54] BTRFS [15:54] nigelb: thats for keybuck :) [15:55] vish: hrm, true, mark doesn't go too much into low level [15:55] kernel!!! [15:55] bazaar might be mentioned [15:55] how can we not have that [15:55] who made that bingo board AlanBell? [15:55] pure genious [15:55] 'burndown' or 'burndown chart' [15:55] jcastro: me [15:55] jcastro: AlanBell ;) [15:56] just for that /me adds "Castro" [15:56] ok, seen enough of the big board now? [15:57] hang on [15:57] chasm? [15:57] IRC? [15:57] scott should be in there [15:57] heh [15:57] robbie [15:57] surprised chasm isnt in there [15:57] also, grandma [15:58] oh did i miss the full list AlanBell mentioned? [15:58] vish: refresh [15:58] chasm is there [15:58] PPA [15:58] gnome-shell [15:59] fork [15:59] how can open source *not* be there :p [16:00] AlanBell: does he use bacon rather jon-o? [16:01] use bacon in the sense, "refer to as" not use in bread ;p [16:01] haha [16:01] * nigelb remembers something about jono and shoes in style from last time [16:01] lingering memory [16:02] derivates, userbase, *linux*, distro [16:02] flip flops [16:02] AlanBell: ^^ [16:02] (not flip flops, above that) [16:02] czajkowski: ta, exactly. [16:02] AlanBell: did we kill it? :p [16:03] good afternoon [16:03] sense: afternoon :) [16:03] AlanBell: florida (well, duh) [16:03] python? [16:04] nigelb: I killed it (missed a comma) [16:04] AlanBell: haha [16:05] hi nigelb [16:05] right, I think that is enough [16:07] jcastro: of course it means that it is now doubly essential that the icecast server is set up in time for the keynote [16:07] heh, totally agree [16:08] AlanBell: Note: Last time it was set up, wrong room advertized [16:09] anyone want to throw together a few lines of javascript so that when you click on a it sets a class to highlighted or something [16:10] I have that written AlanBell [16:10] AlanBell: sec, let me get you the git branch [16:10] great [16:10] AlanBell: http://github.com/whube/whube/blob/master/libs/js/tablehover.js [16:11] AlanBell: depends on jQuery, it should be easy enough to change [16:13] cool, I will do that at some point [16:14] AlanBell: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/497058/ [16:14] err, wait [16:14] nigelb: that won't remove it, see my snippet :) [16:14] AlanBell: aye, let me know how it goes :) [16:14] nigelb: that needs jquery too doesn't it [16:14] yup AlanBell. Just change it to an onHover [16:15] AlanBell: you want simple javascript? [16:15] paultag_: he wanted on clicky [16:15] Oh [16:15] well then my code is wrong [16:15] I was thinking simple javascript (and yes, on click and it doesn't need to remove it) [16:15] but jquery is OK [16:15] OK, then I'm wrong. Ignore my sample :) [16:16] AlanBell: then http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/497059/ should work [16:16] paultag_: what do you think? ^^ [16:16] nigelb: that works, but it needs jQuery, but it's correct :) [16:16] paultag_: meh, everyone's lazy to write normal javascript now [16:16] nigelb: aye [16:16] * nigelb uses jquery for almost everything [16:17] ok, back to work. I need to go home before its too late [16:17] you use google hosted jquery? [16:17] AlanBell: self hosted [16:17] AlanBell: I usually have my webapp wget it, just incase it's placed behind a firewall or something [16:17] webapps * [16:17] sometimes, I develop offline, don't like depending on a webserver [16:17] aye nigelb [16:18] s/webserver/external server [16:18] nigelb: you don't need a server :P [16:18] nigelb: if you're just doing jQuery + HTML [16:18] paultag_: gah, I meant to say, I din't want to depend on google for develping on jquery - especially when offline [16:19] nigelb: :) [16:19] righto, back to work [16:39] God, I can not find any documentation for gstreamer. I think I'll need to spend a week doing the stumble blindly thing. :( [16:41] paultag: Search in Synaptic for packages with 'gstreamer doc' in their names? [16:42] sense: thanks :) [16:42] You're most welcome! [16:43] \o/ community [16:44] yay for community! [16:44] mmhum! [16:44] I'm still going to do a hello world post on it [16:44] All I want to do is output a simple sine wave :( [16:47] Oh well! Time to hack! [17:01] dpm, all set for the strat review? [17:01] jono, yes, mumble or skype? [17:01] skype please [17:01] ok, logging in... [17:02] jono, ready to roll [17:32] doctormo: ping [17:33] duanedesign: pong [17:33] doctormo: hello! [17:33] :-) [17:34] I was booking my flight and wanted to make sure it was OK to get there Sunday? [17:35] duanedesign: Yes [17:36] duanedesign: We should be putting our names down on the wiki here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-N/Attendees But no one else has so I'm worried. [17:37] jcastro: Do we have a wiki page for UDS-N and is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-N it? [17:37] we do [17:38] fixed it this weekend [17:38] and your page is now listed [17:38] doctormo: i saw their was a shuttle company that runs a shuttle between the airport and hotel [17:39] the bus system only gets 1.5 miles from the hotel. a bit of a walk but cheap cheap cheap :) [17:44] duanedesign: There will be organised transport to and from the hotel, that's what the wiki page is going to help with. [17:44] Thanks jcastro :-) Very kind. [17:45] doctormo: ill add my info before the end of the day [18:12] have a good rest of the day everyone, see you tomorrow! [18:28] off for a bit, everyone have a great afternoon [18:36] jono: ~25 minutes until our call? [18:36] jcastro, yup [18:36] jcastro, I have plans for you, Castro [18:36] Was the Ubuntu-Debian IRC channel #ubuntu-debian or #debian-ubuntu? [18:37] it's ok, finished off my "plans I want to do that will get overrun." [18:37] uh oh... lol [18:37] d-u sense [18:37] sense: I dunno I always mix them up, let me know which one. :) [18:37] d-u jcastro [18:37] I'll check and report back! [18:37] -ChanServ- [#debian-ubuntu] www.debuntu.com [18:37] -ChanServ- [#ubuntu-debian] The place to discuss Getting the most out of the Debian *and* Ubuntu is #debian-ubuntu on irc.oftc.net [18:38] I think I'll go to OFTC. ;) The other two channels on Freenode have 3 and 2 users. [18:38] I thought they were supposed to be linked? [18:38] they are supposed to be [18:40] jcastro: I can just confirm that #ubuntu-debian on Freenode is empty and just contains a reference to the #debian-ubuntu channel at OFTC, which is the correct one. [18:42] I am 90% sure they are supposed to be connected because I used to connect all the time and I never even set up OFTC in my client [18:42] also, welcome back sense [18:42] thx jcastro :) [18:43] jcastro: hey , no one seems to be able to reproduce the tomboy bug! :s [18:43] or oh! sense might just be able to ;) [18:44] What bug? [18:44] vish: if that bug was reproduceable we'd be flooded by now I think [18:44] yea. [18:44] I am mangling with libappindicator-cil right now, my manginling includes bumping the assembly version, so I'm not sure how representative my test results would be. :) [18:44] I use it extensively and on my 3 machines it all works. ken and karl can't reproduce it [18:44] sense: 627744 [18:45] thx [18:45] sense: did you see directhex's commit message? [18:45] totally awesome [18:45] er, merge request [18:45] jcastro: Yeah, at long last something that solves the mess. [18:45] directhex has proposed merging lp:~directhex/indicator-application/gapi_is_a_pile_of_shit into lp:indicator-application. [18:45] hah, awesome [18:45] hehe! [18:46] It truly is crap, so some extent. [18:46] Half of it are tedious Perl scripts. [18:46] With very long regexes. [18:46] hahahaha! [18:46] jcastro, that rules so hard [18:46] That man needs a beer [18:46] jcastro: Remember the time it took to write Banshee.AppIndicator? That was GAPI2 making me scream. [18:47] sense: speaking of, the mpris/soundmenu bits are working awesome for me now [18:48] jcastro: Yeah, Bertrand and Conor really did an awesome job there. [18:48] I wasn't involved! [18:50] The GobjectIntrospection wiki page of GNOME Live! has been listening Mono as one of the possible things where it could be used, but unfortunately the guys behind Gtk# want to use their own parser. [18:59] jono: skype or mumble? [19:01] jcastro, Skype please [19:01] ok all set [19:40] have you guys tried big blue button? [19:43] not yet [19:43] is it awesome? [19:53] jcastro, what-his-name was telling us about it [20:24] aloha [20:26] jono: is the youtube channel on a rebranding list somewhere? [20:26] it's still orange/yellow city [20:27] hi czajkowski! [20:32] sense: hey there how are you [20:33] czajkowski: I'm doing fine. Happy that direxthex managed to crush the GAPI problems I've been suffering from for so long. :) How are you? [20:33] ntb, going to bed early tonight KNACKERED [20:34] Smart plan [20:35] aye [21:02] jcastro: it's quite nice, it's like an open-sourcy web-exy thingy. we have one runnin on http://bbb.revolutionlinux.com if you want to try it out [21:02] goodnight czajkowski [21:03] thanks, maybe at the end o the week when I can free up some time [21:03] sense: tomorrow poke me re team re appaovals [21:03] have you moved there yet? [21:03] * czajkowski is going to bed [21:03] wake me under pain of death folks :) [21:04] czajkowski: sleep well [21:18] I'm going off as well, see you guys! [21:55] <--- 5 minute EOD warning, last chance if you need anything today! [22:21] * cjohnston needs all sorts of stuff today jcastro ;-) [22:29] jono: If you get a chance, could you possibly approve my join request for ~lernid-devs ? [22:30] nhandler, I am not involved in Lernid anymore [22:30] and haven't been for a year [22:30] nhandler, you should mail mbudde [22:30] jono: He has gone MIA. We are basically trying to get it somewhat usable again [22:30] nhandler, has he? [22:31] jono: At least according to nickserv, last seen nearly 5 weeks ago [22:31] hmmm [22:31] nhandler, approved [22:31] Thanks jono. jcastro will be glad to not need to deal with our merge requests anymore ;) [22:32] :) [22:32] thanks, pal! [23:05] anyone know where IS hangs out on irc? [23:07] You can find channels about a certain topic by using alis: /msg alis list *TOPIC* list *canonical* [23:07] Err, sorry about that, but #canonical-isd is what you want [23:07] * nhandler should change that alias [23:15] jono: s/Away/Await/ in your blog post [23:15] AlanBell, ahhh thanks [23:24] it's #canonical-sysadmin [23:26] jcastro, dude, we're getting some rough kick-back on domain issues with locos [23:26] ok so let's back up [23:26] jcastro, is there any way we can find a way to get us hooked up to a person at canonical who can deal with some of this stuff? [23:26] first off, who registers the loco domains? [23:26] canonical, or the loco? [23:26] jcastro, would you mind joining us in -lococouncil to talk with the guy who's having issues? [23:27] ddorda? [23:27] yes [23:27] he's been pinging me all day [23:27] jcastro, thanks man, let me send you an invite, let's get this resolved and off our plates :) [23:27] and I am still trying to understand what the problem is [23:41] popey: you're not on ignore [23:41] i've been trying to find out the problem /all day/ [23:44] jcastro, ugh, sorry man [23:44] hah [23:44] it's ok [23:45] I thought he just wanted some juice on his RT tickets [23:45] I didn't know they were just arguing over the domain [23:45] paultag: ok dinner for me, if something actionable comes out of this then just mail me whatever task [23:45] jcastro, OK. Have a nice night :) [23:46] paultag: at first I was like "ugh, illinois, I swear..." [23:46] jcastro, hahahaha! [23:46] now I see it's a totally different country. :p [23:47] jcastro, Me too, It took me a few minutes to work it out as well [23:47] jcastro, this has been going on for like 2 years :/ [23:47] thank god for popey [23:47] jcastro, +1 [23:47] I know [23:47] jcastro, get out of here, you said you were going to dinner [23:47] heh [23:48] paultag: wait, just one more question [23:48] if it's been like 2 years [23:48] oh, nm. [23:48] jcastro, its a real lame situation, the dudes even threatened Ddor in real life -- they're in the IDF [23:49] ! [23:50] jcastro, yeah, you don't want to get involved with this, we've been working to try and take care of it on the LC level [23:50] Alright, well I've got to run to work [23:50] jcastro, get to dinner, we can chat later if you still have questions ( or popey ;) ) [23:50] jcastro: Sorry about that. I wasn't sure what exactly you were looking for [23:52] man dude [23:52] I would just tell the guy to register something else and drop it [23:52] No manual entry for dude [23:52] but then again, threat of physical violence is totally unacceptable [23:55] maco: There might not be a man dude, but there is a man man ;)